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Can AI Save Web3 from Itself?
Recorded: April 22, 2025 Duration: 1:04:21Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion on the intersection of AI and Web3, panelists explored the potential of AI to address core challenges in the blockchain space, emphasizing trends towards user accessibility, project launches, and the critical evaluation of technology's role in shaping the future of crypto.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're at in this crypto world.
My name is Cody and I will be your host for this episode of X Talks.
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Likewise, give the panelists a follow. They definitely deserve it. They've taken time out
of their busy day to jump in today's discussion to discuss, can AI save Web3 from itself? So,
should be gearing up for a pretty good conversation today. I still got a few people
that I need to get up on stage. So bear with me here for just one second, and then we will kick
this episode off. All right, I think we've got pretty much just about everybody up on stage that needs to be
here. A few stragglers will be coming and we will get them up a little bit later. So to kick things off,
let's go around the horn and do a quick little 30 second intro. Tell us who's behind the handle
and what project you are representing. And let's kick it off with Maverick.
Hello, hello. Thank you for having me today. This is Sam behind the Maverick Network.
Handel, co-founder of Maverick Network. Maverick is a Layer 1 designed for real-world assets and
their integration into DeFi, starting with some yield-bearing assets such as real estate
and expanding outwards from there to tokenize the world. Thank you for having us. Looking
forward to this space. Awesome. Thanks for participating. We appreciate you being here. Next up, let's go with Verox.
What's up? What's up? Hello, guys. This is Dezo right here. So quickly, Verox is a legally
compliant digital asset, which is issued by a Swiss registered foundation, as well as backed
from complex legal frameworks we
are partnered with QX exchange to bridge that gap between traditional finance as well as crypto and
we're offering real utility through the VX token uh really quick uh when it comes to the token
holders can enjoy fee discounts governance rights as well as rewards that are tied to active participation within our ecosystem
um and you know lastly we also have a an AMC coming very soon in partnership with a Swiss asset manager called pioneer group and this AMC is going to be trading in both Bloomberg Bloomberg
as well as the Vienna Stock Exchange so you know we're merging crypto with traditional
market stability and yeah thank you very much for having us here.
Yeah, thanks for participating.
Let's go with A47.
Hey, hey guys, how are you?
Thanks for having us.
I'm Framza here from A47, one of the co-founders.
And what we're trying to do is basically revolutionize the news space
and have
AI generated content.
You can check out our profile for the videos in a funny, humorous way and have
an awesome ecosystem where engagement essentially fuels our growth.
Awesome.
Well, welcome.
Let's kick it over to Sean.
Hey, GM everyone.
I'm Sean.
I have 15 years building communities and five years experience in leading marketing across
the blockchain space at Bankless DAO, Cointelegraph, and SSV.
I'm now leading marketing at Delta, which is a Web3 venture studio.
Awesome.
King Snooch, go for it.
Testing, testing.
New mic.
Is it working?
Loud and clear, my friend.
Perfect.
Good deal.
Yeah, you got King Snooch here.
Co-founder of Game Talk Magazine,
where we bring information about good games to gamers.
Pleasure to be here.
Love being on any space that Cody's hosting.
So look forward to this conversation because I don't think that AI can save Web3 from itself,
but curious to see what everybody thinks.
Man, kicking off the conversation already, and we haven't even gotten through intros.
and through intros.
Love it.
Love it, love it.
Love it.
All right.
Let's kick it over to Ifziko.
GMG guys, it's Ifezeko.
I'm doing growth at Genome protocol.
At Genome, we have games play,
allow, give them platforms for the user.
You understand?
If you're a game building on Genome,
you can play several games. Users can come to Genome and play lots of games as're a game building on Genome, you can play several games.
Users can come to Genome
and play lots of games.
As long as you're on Genome,
you have access to multiple users.
So on Genome,
you make sure that users find games
they are interested in,
tournaments they can join and enjoy.
So yeah, thank you.
Awesome.
Welcome.
Chinasu, go for it.
Fesco, you forgot to mention that you're the most passionate person on the space.
Chinasu, let's go with you, my friend.
Okay. Thank you so much, Cody. I appreciate the invite.
And also, I'm a quality member for Premio. Thank you so much, Cody. I appreciate the invite and also
I'm a member of a premium,
more blockchain where blockchain is gold or kind of tokenizing gold.
Aside that, I'm working on my own podcast, WebTree podcast,
more of inside WebTree.
So I'm using this medium to really connect and relate with us,
you know, like-minded individuals, like everyone on the speaker section.
So I can't really wait to hear what everyone has to say.
And for me, well, AI was only saving,
but it's definitely going to help Web3, you know, save, definitely.
All right.
And let's kick it over to Angie. Angie, I don't even know how to say your name. Tell me how to say your name.
It's just Ange.
Ange.
It's too simple.
Nice. I'll remember that.
Awesome. Lovely to be here, everyone. My name is Angele. I am one of the founders of Avo, a marketplace for crypto trading agents.
So if you want to be in the trenches but not yourself staring at a screen 24-7, use an agent on Avvo.
Nice. Love it.
And last but not least, let's go over to the PipeGDAO.
Hey, everyone.
This is the PipeGDAO and it's Matsi,
aka Matsi Raimiguti.
I'm the founder and lead contributor here at the PipeGDAO,
the boss.
We are an impact finance ecosystem focused on
funding universities from lab to IPO.
Nice. Well, nice.
Well, as you can see, we've definitely got a great panel lined up for today's discussion.
Can AI save Web3 from itself?
But before we jump in, if you're just tuning in, my name is Cody and I will be your host
for today's episode.
If you haven't done so, go ahead and give this space to share.
Let's beat the algorithm and let's get it out to the masses. It's going to be a good one. And we've
got lots of people joining already. So love it. Love to see it. Throw those emojis out there.
Give some love to the panelists as they're sharing their thoughts and feedback. It is always nice to
see that people are in agreement.
If you're not in agreement, throw those thumbs down.
Let them know that you disagree with them.
I knew you were going to do that, snooch.
But anyways, yeah, thanks to everybody for taking time out of your busy day
to participate in today's discussion.
Let's make it a great one.
So with that being said, let's kick it off.
Exploring if AI holds the keys to
solving lots of Web3's core challenges from
security to scalability to interoperability.
Can it happen or is it just wishful thinking?
If Zico, go for it.
I think I'll be the first person to speak today.
For me, I always know that AI is a good tech, big tech, advanced tech. And in Web 2 and in Web 3 right now, I think as well in Web 3, we need to make sure we, should I say, tap
into what AI is actually is. You understand, we have projects, we have been building since 2020 to 2021 up to today.
Most projects, should I say most of them, are having friction with users.
They don't have how to onboard users.
It's still an issue.
Right now, in Web 2, AI projects, AI products are having users. People are using AI for something meaningful.
Now, in Web 3, AI can save Web3 if we are building AI products
that we can use to do something meaningful.
An example of that is, for instance, now,
we can't stay in front of the screens in four hours.
We can't spend our whole time in front of the screens.
Now, AI can help us do those tasks we are doing in front of the screens.
AI can help us research on tokens we want to trade on.
AI can also help us avoid hacks.
You understand?
Most times you have projects running audits.
Most times they might not be around.
Most times they will be around.
But most times before they get to it, the hacks have been done.
But AI is something that will help us do those tasks while we are sleeping.
And if AI could be able to solve the issue of hacks in Web3,
I'm telling you that has saved us a lot.
Because that's most of the things we have had.
Bybit hack, running hack, several hacks.
But if AI could prevent that, I think
we'd be enjoying Web3. So yeah,
that's one of my takes for others to speak.
That's a great take. Let's shoot it over to the
PypeG guys.
I'd say yes
and no. Wishful thinking in that
yes, no one piece of technology is going
to save blockchain people,
Web3 people think blockchain can save the world.
No, it can't in and of itself.
I don't think AI in and of itself can.
That's the no.
But the yes in that there is a concept, it's not really a concept anymore,
but there's the kind of thing of autonomous agents,
which is basically how AI can make a smart contract smarter.
So if AI is used in a smart contract properly,
so basically this allows the smart contract to think autonomously
and make its own decisions rather than just the kind of ones and zeros
or logic type thing actually autonomously operate.
You can have autonomous agents doing all kinds of things.
Autonomous agents from different protocols or having different functions
can work together and actually create new business models that we as humans haven't thought of.
And then the smart contract layer, which is the execution and coordination layer, could implement it.
Right.
it could save blockchain, but
I'm more interested in what the actual
applications of blockchain and AI, the convergence between the two
can actually do to solve real-world problems.
And if the convergence between AI
and blockchain in the form of autonomous agents does actually solve
problems that wouldn't have been thought of
or with solutions that haven't been thought of,
then that can save blockchain as a whole.
So that's my kind of no and yes answer.
That's a good take.
Let's shoot it over to Vero.
Right.
So I think my take is a bit more optimistic when it comes to AI.
I think that AI can act as an additional layer towards making Web3 more useful.
Because Web3 in Italy has always had this sort of struggle when it comes to accessibility with it,
especially when you're trying to onboard Web2 people onto it,
whether that's wallets or gas fees or private keys there's always been this
issue where it's just too intimidating for people to get into it and though it's easy for them to
get used to it it's there so i think that ai can be used to sort of abstract a way a portion of
that complexity so imagine talking to an ai that helps you sort of manage your crypto or making it more
accessible for you to vote in daos or in in other cases just it can help you create smart contracts
by describing what you want so and i think this just creates a path where you get real mass
adoption especially uh with crypto becoming more mainstream now whether that's due to
politics etc it can be a very very useful tool that helps the uh general
audience from web 2 transition into web 3 and then start building there
no i love it removing the complexity totally agree with you on that one. Let's kick it over to Snooch.
All right. So again, always taking the spicy road on this. I think a lot of these guys hit on some
great points. Yes and no. The yes being AI can help things a good bit, but save Web3 from itself?
I don't think so. I don't think anything's going
to save Web3 from itself. I think Web3 is evolving in a weird way right now. And I think
the market is doing a big part of it. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a great thing,
to be honest with you. I think the way that the market is right now is helping to push out the
nefarious, crappy people in Web3 that are scamming others and are just looking to extract
i think now that they're running out of money to extract they're finding different things to do so
they're kind of leaving the space in a sense right you see it left and right a couple of different
cabals you know aren't as active as they used to be and i think it's a good thing i think in all
honesty that's the thing that's going to save Web3 from itself is the market and the
slowdown of people wanting to just dump stupid amounts of money in ridiculously. I think people
are getting a lot smarter and a lot more cautious about what they invest in. So I think you're
seeing a lot less of the meme coin activity where it's just a big pump and dump. And you're starting to see people focus a lot more on legit projects and tokens that actually have utility and are worth a long-term investment rather than just the speculation of, oh, let me go gamble that this is going to pump and I can pull out my money before everybody else does.
money before everybody else does. I think we're getting to a place where Web3 is starting to heal
itself from the scams that have happened in the past three to four years, maybe even longer.
AI, though, I think that's going to be a tool that helps everything.
Saying can AI save Web3 from itself is kind of like saying, can a screwdriver build a porch?
No, it's a tool that you'll use to do it and it might not get
done without it, but it's not going to do all the work. I think AI is definitely a tool that will
help and make things a lot easier, efficient, and I don't want to say better, but function faster
and smoother. Like Ange has her product that's going on right now.
I'm not a big trader, but I think if I was able to, I would probably set up an AI to run my trades
for me just because I can't sit there in front of a screen. I can't watch the charts. I can't
do that. I don't have the time for that. Honestly, I don't have the time to play half the games that I'm supposed to be playing.
So to find more time to go trade, I don't think I can do that.
But AI, yeah, absolutely.
I can set that up, let it run for me, maybe make a couple bucks.
I always tell people that are looking into meme coins and stuff like that,
only put money in there that you're going to throw away.
Because if it's money you need, you're going to lose it.
It's going to happen.
But anyway, I'm rambling on, so over to you.
I think I have to disagree with you on that one.
I think there are tools.
People are tools out there.
But no, I totally agree.
It is definitely a tool for sure.
Let's see who's next.
Sean, go for it, my friend.
My view is that AI won't save web 3 but it can help web 3 save itself if it's used with intention i can do various things so it can amplify
trust it can reduce friction it can help to scale community values but it can't replace them
and you know when i think about how it seems to be that
a lot of people just blindly accept AI as like, as if it's like the Messiah or something.
And the issue is that if we just blindly have faith in AI, then that could lead to the new
centralization. Now, instead of us, you know, people being centralized and having that source
of power is the AI. And then, well, then it becomes whoever controls the AI, right?
Or however that's being managed.
So, you know, everyone, if everyone, you know, thinks about AI,
it can, you know, provide smarter systems.
But the issue is that most models are closed source.
You know, there are some that are open, but, you know,
ChatGPT or various others, you know, it's still centrally managed. So that's
still the problem. And Web3 has opposite kind of values. I mean, it's about transparency,
it's about being open. So we've still got this kind of conflict taking place between the two,
you know, between AI and Web3, basically. So if we use ai without questioning it we're swapping one black
box for another that that's kind of you know where it's leading to and i think it's it's about using
ai ai but in a way that's giving us the best value without the risks so personally in my role, I think we should be using AI as a community tool, but not as a community face.
So it's using AI to assist in repetitive tasks, things that take a lot of time.
So for example, onboarding bots can greet people, welcome them, and then kind of signpost them where to go.
of signpost them where to go using bots to, um, summarize doubt proposals or white papers,
things like that, that can be a bit difficult for general people to read.
So it helps in that way to save a lot of time and to, you know, help people to get on boarded.
But ultimately what we need to strive for is apilot model where we're using AI with people instead of having the AI as like an autopilot leader.
Right. So that's. Ultimately, there's a partnership role there.
So I think if we can achieve that, then it will save us a lot of time without taking on a lot of the risks.
a lot of the risks no i love it love it uh i'm gonna circle back on some things that you said
but uh lots of hands so let's get through them maverick you're up next
hey uh i agree a lot with actually what uh king snooch said um the markets are definitely the
ultimate cleaner and savior for crypto and blockchain and Web3 how it works.
The markets always have managed to reset everyone and make people realize that
they shouldn't be idiots and gamble tons of money on meme coins or AI agents.
As that, as that happened,
AI agents back when they started were basically just chatbots with the token.
That's kind of how it just ended up.
We do have A47 here, which is not just a chatbot with the token,'s kind of how it just ended up we do have a 47 here which is not just a
chatbot with the token which is quite nice to see but uh the markets are markets are what's going
to save uh crypto each and web3 each cycle in the long run it what's going to save web3 will be
building actual products building actual products and having actual use cases and businesses
run on-chain is what's going to propel Web3 forward and, so to speak, save us from these
degenerate downward spirals that happen every cycle. But AI will be a tool that helps us do that.
It won't be the end-all, be-all savior of crypto crypto it will just help us be better and do better
well said uh let's shoot it over to a47 thank you guys uh so i don't want to echo actually what
everyone else has been saying from the web3 perspective but one thing i do want to touch on
is that from the opposite perspective ai AI does need blockchain as well.
For example, I'm sure you've seen all the news about publishers getting super mad with OpenAI, DeepSeq, and all those companies.
Just getting all their data, putting onto their chain.
Or not their chain, but their models, just so it has that additional knowledge base.
But with blockchain, I think publishers, and it's essentially going to push more and more people towards using blockchain enabled data stores, just so that users can easily own
their own data in a decentralized way and have proof of ownership of it as well.
in a decentralized way
and have proof of ownership of it as well.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Really good point to bring up.
Vero, back to you.
Right.
So I think so far we've taken,
we really just jumped into the optimistic route
in terms of how AI can be the additional layer
that's missing from Web3,
so it can help people onboard easier.
It can also protect users, meaning that because AI is always evolving
and it's learning in a pattern, essentially,
it can also help people monitor and flag scams or rag pulls, etc.
And I mean, those are things that sound really nice,
but I want to play devil's advocate here for
a little bit because there's also another side it's never black and white when it comes to can
ai save web 3 so ai cannot fix a broken foundation right web 3 right now while constantly evolving
and becoming better uh and just you know paving the future forward, it also has fundamental problems.
For example, it's very over-financialized.
There are aspects of tribalism.
And sometimes the UX experience is borderline unusable for regular people.
So AI can make the experience smoother.
But the thing is, it can't fix the mindset behind why these problems exist so I think that
from this perspective I would say that no AI can save web3 from itself because we need to fix the
fundamental ideology behind web3 and just how people operate and how they think when they are
building a product we need to fix our mindsets first and then we can use AI to realize
that smoother, just fixed vision in that essence.
So I'm curious to see what you guys have to say
about this take.
No, I'm on board with you on that one.
Ezekiel, go for it.
I think we all mentioned a lot of hard topics.
Something I mentioned earlier is,
one, in Web 2, AI are in Web 2,
and they are building and they are solving real problems.
You understand?
So in Web 3, if we want AI to save Web 3,
let me tell you the truth, AI is just a tool, a new technology that just came up.
You understand?
And we in Web3 are trying to use that technology.
We are trying to use those tools in blockchain.
So how can we make use of these tools in blockchain?
You understand?
So now, what can you do?
How can this AI help you do something? You know, I made something about most projects about money making machines in Web3. Why we are supposed to look at how to solve a user's program. That's what Web2 is so much ahead of us. In Web2, you don't talk about anything money. Look at how can you be able to solve this thing without talking about money.
In Web 3, I think we could use AI to assist us from games.
You might be able to, for example, you want to play games.
You understand you don't have time to play those games.
I think AI agents can serve as an assistant, learning how you do things,
learning how those games are done learning how those games are done,
how those games are played.
Give those AI instructions,
and those AI will help you play those games,
play those tournaments for you,
and win those rewards for you.
I mentioned another aspect of AI,
how we could use AI.
As humans, we do make mistakes,
but I think an AI that is filled with so much data that is always updated with real-time data can be hacked.
It can be hacked, but it's way more better in doing searches for you.
Now, when you are asleep, this AI is unchained.
Reading smart contracts, reading those codes, finding bugs to be fixed.
So when you are asleep, you can get hacks if those AI are using those jobs for you.
So AI is just an assistant.
It's too used to mitigate risk in Web3.
But if you want to make AI to be the entire solution, no, AI can't be the entire solution
in Web3 because now we have several technologies in Web3.
And if you want to put, okay, for instance, I think King Nush is the one that mentioned
something about most projects now are saying that AI, AI, AIDs, they only have chats.
Twitter account, profile account, then have a token.
That's not the real case, use case of AI.
And that's what we have right now in Web3.
When we start using AI for what it is,
to build with products,
to use those tools to bring out products that affect human life directly,
you mustn't be in Web3 to use AI agents in Web3.
Like a gamer from Web2,
you have been playing games
and you want to use AI agents in Web3.
Okay, I want to do this tournament,
but I don't have the time to do that.
I can have an AI agent that can help me
do those things.
I want to trade tokens, but I don't have
the time to do the research.
Those AI agents can help you do research
and undergo, do trade for you
with sets of instructions.
Now,
it's just an assistant to you.
So the better we start
knowing that AI is here to help
all do those tasks
we don't have time to do.
And we should also understand that AI
are more intelligent than most
of us, you understand? Because now,
they are filled with data we can't consume
with our brains. And they are
robots with advanced
knowledge. And for me robots with advanced knowledge.
And for me, before I was against, I was like,
I don't like AI, this and that,
but AI can save web prey a lot.
You can't get most of the hacks we are getting
if AI are using smart contracts for us.
And we can't be in front of screens
if AI are doing those tags for us.
So that's what I'm looking at.
And that's where I think AI can save weaponry.
I'm sorry for writing too much,
but yeah, that's my thing.
Well, we can definitely tell you're passionate about it,
my friend.
Thanks for sharing your point of view.
Let's kick it over to Chinansu.
Yeah, thank you.
A lot has been said.
I would just say yes and no at the same time
because that's the truth.
And that starting with the no,
that even AI in a way needs saving,
but it's really going to help Web3.
What I'm saying is because AI is a tool.
I think that's one of the basic things we must understand.
And because it's a tool,
we are going to see different players using this tool.
Both the bad guys in Web3 are going to use AI.
Yeah.
And even the good guys too are going to use ai trying to save web3 in court and um i think understand the fact that um
ai also has um has had some shortcomings um we also see it keeps improving but it's it's just
it's just the way it is that um ai is not the the the solution in totality for Web3, but it's really, really going to scale Web3.
In fact, in order for Web3 to scale, it will need AI.
And at the same time, I think it was A47 that made that statement that we're also seeing that AI is going to need blockchain, the underlying technology on which, you know, Web3 sits upon.
It's going to need blockchain because we are seeing more of centralized, I mean, you know,
database of AI, you know, the big tech already, you know, taking much, you've got Google, you've got
even in a way, Microsoft, I think, who overbuilding many of this tech and
gathering all this data. And why we are also seeing decentralized
AI model, we already, I think the adoption, the mass adoption is
coming mostly from decentralized AI models. But let's move back,
you know, let's go, for me, going back to say AI itself
in a way, save WebTree,
I think one of the best ways it's going to do that
or help, I would say help in saving WebTree,
I would use that word help,
is more of the user experience,
which is one of the poor things we have in WebTree.
And a number of speakers mentioned that
you've got wallets are complicated.
I mean, AI is going to help, can be used as a tool to help to make wallets interaction less complex,
you know, like signing the messages. And even at some point, AI also can actually help, you know,
you know, in predicting, you know, what they call it, it helps when it comes to gas fee and all that stuff.
And we've got, let's say,
integrating AI technologies into wallets
where we have assistants that guide users
through complex, you know, DeFi actions.
It's really gonna help a lot
when there's this user-friendly,
which I believe AI can also help to interpret
a number of these
new things that are happening. I've come across a community in Web3 that is seriously using AI
on their product. It's a social fire product. And one of the things AI is doing, and I believe AI
can also help do, is moderation within the web tree space, I mean,
within web tree communities. Why AI, we must understand,
continues to learn. It's, as someone has already said, and
people keep saying, AI, it's the worst AI is today is the worst
it's gonna be. It keeps improving improving it keep getting more intelligent and um ai talents are really going to
be those who will be able to exploit this particular technology as a tool in making sure that
it helps ordinarily ai works pretty cool for me it's saving me in terms of work like on a personal
life i'm talking about personal experiences it's a lot'm doing AI, but I must come to a point
where I have to understand that it's a tool.
A tool, and what do you do with the tool?
You use it, you know, where you use it as it master,
not as something that is actually, you know,
taking the lead in a way, if you understand what you're doing.
So yes, AI is um um in a way
help in web3 at the same time it's it's not going to save i don't believe it's going to save web3
um because in a way it also needs saving because we're already seeing buyers ai yeah all of us so
ai can actually do things even in trading yes it's going to help um and and and and a lot of things um it's really going to help but for me user experience is one of the key i mean it's going to help and a lot of things it's really going to help.
But for me, user experience is one of the key.
I mean, it's really going to help in that aspect to really simplify many things in WebTree, in the apps and a lot of things will be, you know, AI is going to work it out.
Yeah. Thank you.
No, that makes a lot of sense.
I'm going to circle back on something you said here in just a second.
But before I do, let's shift it over to Ainge.
Go for it.
I'm curious your takes.
Yeah, I am, I would say, like, hyper bullish on AI.
And I'll paint a picture of, I think we've had a lot of conversations around what AI will do, will it be a tool, what will happen, but we never painted a picture of like, what does society look like with the integration of AI? We're having development right now, but we're not at a point of what AI will look like, let's say post when mobiles happen, post when the internet happened, post this. And I think I see AI being that next
evolution of technology change. And this is a world where everything is agent first. So if you
want to respond to an email, that's not going to be you physically responding to an email, that's
going to be an agent on your behalf responding to an email. If you want to go to the gym and use an
app that looks at all your calories, you're going to have a fitness agent on your phone. And from there, you're going to have a finance agent that does your trading for you. And there's going to be a, I don't know, a walking agent or a social media agent. Just any way that you can think about what you're currently doing manually right now, we're going to find a way to automate it. And there's going to be custom agents that automate that for you that are best and specifically
designed and skilled at those tasks. And so now when we apply that to crypto and we apply that
to Web3, okay, well, now you're going to have certain agents that are the best at trading
specific niches, whether that's airdrop farming, that's staking, that's things that already exist,
whether that's airdrop farming, that's staking, that's things that already exist, technology is
already there for, just the average person doesn't have access to. Like how many people in this room
can confidently say they're using an agent that has actually helped them with their trading?
The average person is going to say, no, I lost money. I tried this Eliza thing and I didn't know
how to code and all my money is gone. But that's not the future. The future is genuine agents
that are able to work on your behalf
and are specialized in a certain set of knowledge.
So if we think about gaming,
when we think about UX,
like you're right,
there's going to be literal agents that do that
and that are going to automate the process
and just bring up the over quality
of crypto projects, of overall investments that are made. Anything that you're possibly thinking
of, just imagine a huge upgrade with the advancement of AI because there's just so much
that will be automated for us. Anything from a VC doing a deal that now doesn't need to do as much
DD because they have an agent that's doing that for them to projects that are actually able to leverage AI. Think of like Dev.Fun where you can literally go online and it'll code for you.
Best app ever. You get the UX and it's much cheaper than you have thought of before. So
there's just so much tools that are coming out that I think are expanding the way that we think
about our worldview of what we can do, of what can be automated, and really allows us to be at
this beautiful layer of life where we're just able to think creatively. And that's where really the
execution and the differentiation is going to come in, is it's not how good you can build a product,
because chances are an AI will build it better for you. It's, can you think of the best product
to build? And do you have the best distribution? So I think the future challenges aren't, can you raise money?
Can you build a good product?
It's, are you building the right product that people want?
And can you distribute it better than all the noise that will come out with all these
AI agents that can also help so many other teams leverage?
I think for me, one thing I'll leave it on is I've always been super passionate about
access.
How can you make people have more access to education, financial tools, all of that. And so I'm really excited for AI because I think it'll
help a lot more people have access to crypto and Web3, crypto rails that they don't even know
exist. So yeah, I think it will save Web3 fully and I'm very bullish on that.
fully and I'm very bullish on that. Great, great takes. Yeah. There was just a couple of things I
wanted to say and touch upon before we move on to the people that have already spoke. Sorry,
guys, I'm just kind of injecting myself in here. I can't remember who it said, but I think it's
important for people to really understand when it comes to the AI kind of component of things. There are private and there are commercial knowledge bases that these AIs work off of,
right?
And so for me, AI is not new, okay?
If I remember my history from university, I want to say it was like the late 60s when the first AI component
actually came out and it was through Berkeley or Stanford and it was used for medical research,
right? And being able to kind of sift through all the noise of data that goes through that. But in reality of things, I'm not 100% confident for AI to handle 100% of
these tasks because of the pure knowledge of my experience working with AI clear back in like 2010
around certain projects that I was working on, that it's only as good as the person that codes it and the amount of data
that they have to go off of. And so if it's, I mean, we're talking petabytes and petabytes
of data that need to be put into these things in order for them to be, you know, well-educated on
things. And even then you've got to go through and start training them
on the way that you want them to respond, want them to do that. And so for me to kind of turn,
turn things a hundred percent over, uh, I'm not quite sold there because I feel like there are
still, we're just barely starting to scratch the surface now that AI has kind of come mainstream.
to scratch the surface now that AI has kind of come mainstream. But like I said, it's nothing
new. It's going to be here for, you know, for a long, long term kind of play. I think it's been in
mainstream Web2, mobile. It's already being leveraged across the board in those. You just don't hear as much because it's not the mainstream trend or topic to talk about.
But a lot of companies have been leveraging AI for years.
And I think it's important that we kind of understand where the history is coming from,
that this is not a new technology.
It has been in use.
So let's kick it over to snooch
i'm here i'm here i'm just losing the tabs on my computer honestly i put my hand up a while ago
um i did actually take it down but i know it's probably not showing on your screen
um i just got to say shout out to some of the people that are up here. Their passion for what they're building is
bar none, especially you, Ang. I can hear it in your voice of what you're building.
I did shoot you a DM. We should chat later. I got to say, I don't agree with everybody
saying that AI is going to save Web3. i think it will improve it yes but i don't
think i don't think web 3 really needs to be saved i think it needs to be improved upon um but i love
everybody's passion and i just got to remind everybody make sure that you're following all
these people up on the stage because some of the people that have been up here are are just sharing
so many good nuggets that you don't want to miss and if you have those notifications on you'll know
when they jump in another space so make if you have those notifications on, you'll know when they jump in another space.
So make sure you turn those notifications on
and follow everybody up here.
That's probably the best thing I've heard all day, man.
No, let's kick it over to Maverick.
Go for it.
Yeah, so my hand was up for a while ago.
I have a bunch of things to answer to.
First off, Ang, I would love an AI
to answer my emails and my DMs.
That, in my opinion,
is probably the greatest usage of AI at the moment
because who likes answering emails or DMs?
And there are thousands of them.
Like, yeah.
Please take all my money.
Take care of that.
That'd be amazing.
I was actually thinking,
what do we want like our
futures to look like with ai there are a couple different paths that i see that how things play
out but what happened in wally with uh the guys just sitting back on their chairs just watching
tv and while robots do everything scares me a lot i think of that that, and I think of UBI, Universal Basic Income.
And that's not what we want life to be.
Is that how people
want their lives to be run, just have AI
take care of everything?
Not me, at least. I don't want that.
That's just not life.
I was thinking more of a battery,
like in the Matrix.
Well, there's that scary dark route as well that we could go down to.
I don't know.
It's just not really something that I foresee human beings wanting.
Like, AI will definitely be a tool to help everyone do better in life,
especially managing your DeFi portfolios.
Imagine just putting money in it.
It rotates the funds around to different protocols throughout the different
ecosystems, getting you the best yield possible.
At one point, it's going to turn into life.
We'll turn into just managing a portfolio of assets because robots will take
over more and more things.
So what we'll have to do is manage our actual portfolios of assets and move things around.
AI will help us do that.
Well, more times for arts, history,
and all the, and humanities and that kind of stuff.
Actual building of things will be,
the manual labor will be taken over by robots.
That's just gonna happen.
But AI will definitely not be a saver for things.
It'll be a tool that helps us live our life better,
but we have to make sure that it doesn't take over, so to speak.
Yeah, you bring up something really interesting there.
And I've always thought about this.
If you look at crypto and look at markets, look at trading in general,
markets, look at trading in general, right? A lot of it is based upon human error, greed,
emotion, all those different things are kind of going in. And if AI is now handling all your
trades and eliminates pretty much all of those, where's the fun in that? Where's the profitability,
right? Because it's already pulling in all this different data of, you know, Twitter sentiment of what people are talking about versus, you know, the knowing what the housing index is doing versus what the unemployment rate's going to be, you know, all those kinds of things. It's like, where's the room for profit? That's
always been in the back of my mind with that, but it doesn't say that it can't hurt to have that
tool to help you make more educated decisions and more strategic trades. It's just, they'll
get slimmer and slimmer and slimmer in my opinion. But yeah, cool. I really don't want to start up another
question. So what we'll do is we'll just kind of do one last kind of question slash outro.
So if you guys want to drop some alpha and you got your hand up, we'll go with you first before
I go with the outro to this stuff. Oh, I wanted to respond. I don't know.
I don't want to take up too much space
if I can't respond to what you just said.
Oh, no, go for it.
Okay.
It was along the lines of like,
does there mean there's no more alpha left
if there's just all these AIs running around
trading for you?
That's what people thought back when
like the S&P 500 came out
or there was just ETFs for
the first time ever. They're like, this is going to ruin the markets. This shouldn't exist. What
is happening? There's no way that you can just profit over time just by holding an ETF. And
of course, different examples in a lot of ways, but there will always be opportunities to A,
make money. There will always be agents that perform better than others, just like there's
stock that perform better than others. And so I think we're headed in a society where instead of
people trading individual assets like Bitcoin or Ethereum or buying Nvidia, it's going to be buying
agents that trade based off of a type of thesis that you trust or believe in. And so that's what
I think the future is going to look like. You're right. You can't have 40 people using the same
one, but you can't have one made individually for each person. That's completely different
and will always trade differently. That's based off of their unique data. And I think we're going
to be in a world where there's going to be as much data as you want, as much resources for data as
you want. I don't think we're going to have as much data as you want as much resources for data as you
want i don't think we're going to have the scarcity of data issue but we have poorly trained agents on
top of that like we have in the past so i think that's another thing that's changing where we're
hitting this inflection point when it comes to crypto but yeah maybe that's my outro is like
i believe in crypto i believe in trading i think we are gonna to excel Lorraine into this future of advanced tech that
we don't see coming. Yeah, no, I like what you said. Yeah. And that's why I said, you know,
it's going to get harder. It's going to get especially, I like how you said 40 people using
the same bot. But I do agree that I think the customization comes in with leveraging our own
personal data into it as well.
Right.
And so I think that's the differentiator there.
But yes, great call out.
Vero, go for it.
Yep.
So just what I want to say, touching base on what everyone has said so far, is that AI is limitless. It has a lot of potential to take many, many forms in the future.
But ultimately, it's as good as the the skill
behind it and it will also need a purpose you need to give AI purpose um and shape it to become
that future utility that you want it to be you can't you can't take clay and just tell the clay
become a vase or take a child in in that sense and just tell it grow up for it to do that you
need to obviously have the databases behind it to train it give it that information that it needs and at the same time
you need to give it the purpose for it to do that so in terms of can ai save web3 from itself i think
that with the limitless potential that ai brings it can act as an add-on both web3 and our lives
where it makes onboarding easier it makes building utility in the space easier.
And I think it just bridges the gap between people
having to go out there and learning how to code
or just learning how each of the functions work.
It really streamlines things and it can help us
really, really, really develop useful utility
and that will change and impact our lives in the
future uh now like i said on the other hand there's the negative side that again you need to have the
right mindset and mentality within the space for that to occur and at the same time we need to have
the we need to give ai purpose in the right manner. And with companies obviously building data centers non-stop
and looking to sort of chase that future trend,
I think we're in for some really, really unexpected stuff.
And, you know, it's like we saw with Web3 a few years back.
People were saying that, you know, Web3 wouldn't become big,
that it's ultimately a scam, NFTs were a scam, etc.
But it evolved.
And as such such ai is going
to evolve as well and we're going to see new things that we didn't expect before just like
when people saw the sap 500 for the first time just like they saw bitcoin for the first time i
think that web3 alongside the ai is going to create a complete package of just utility of
just making it easy for people to build up on and overall just making things more and more accessible and easier to iterate on.
So that's it from my side. Thank you very much.
Yeah, I agree with you, my friend. Like, seriously, I feel like AI can kind of create that foundational structure of what we need across the board among all these different chains.
You know, if it comes to NFTs, if it comes to, you know, whatever security, DID kind of foundation it can be,
like AI could be one of those things that definitely everybody jumps on and uses as a foundational thing.
So, yeah, great, great comment there.
Let's shoot it over to A47.
So I don't know, like for me, AI and Web3 just goes super hand in hand
because like Web3 is all about community and ownership.
And with the rise of all these different AI coding tools like Cursor, Lovable, V0, what
I feel like I'm noticing now is there's hundreds of the same product being launched, right?
There's no differentiation between them.
And there's that one quote that goes like, if you want to go fast, go alone.
If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together. And I really think that Web3 can enable us with DAOs
or whatever you might want to call it,
to just like team up and take it really far
and try and solve that UBI aspect of things as well.
For example, like paying for public goods,
roadworks, just basic necessities.
And like another thing that we're trying to basically do is have a media company that's owned fully by our community
using tokens and just keep it going like that.
Be compared to the likes of CNN, Fox News,
and all these other big publications in the long run.
Oh, just don't get labeled as fake news, my friend.
You don't want to be in that class.
Yeah, great point.
Let's shoot it over to the pipe g thank you uh um so just some passing thoughts i think ai and blockchain and this is a clickbait
headline by the way i have to say that's cody right but i think uh i think uh i think uh i think
ai and blockchain can save each other, right?
So, you know, you have like deepened projects like BitTensor, for example,
which kind of, you know, they can, you know, in terms of AI resource,
you know, in terms of LLM, you know, the learning models and the AI execution,
They can help developers actually build AI applications using blockchain.
they can help developers actually build AI applications using blockchain.
And, you know, blockchain enables the decentralized, the connection between the decentralized infrastructure layer and the incentive layer, which is the coins and the coordination layer, you know, with the actual machinery type of thing.
And the blockchain is the network.
So the blockchain really has the network effect.
So I think they can save each other in that regard.
What I think could also be interesting is bringing...
Blockchain and AI could work together into bringing things
into the physical world.
So I'm thinking IoT, right?
So, for example, you have fidgetals,
which have physical NFTs.
You have the physical products
and you have the NFTs.
And, you know,
there can only be
X number of each which exists.
So if someone wants to claim
the physical, the fidgetals,
let's just say it's limited edition shoes,
they can buy the NFTs. But if they want to claim the physical, the fidgetals, let's just say it's limited edition shoes, they can buy the NFTs.
But if they want to claim the shoes and the NFT gets burned, then they get the physical shoe, right?
Fidgetals, right?
So now, if we now have kind of, you know, like your pudgy penguins, yeah, if you had a physical shoe, which was so you brought your NFT into life and it has robotics, right?
So robotics is physical AI, right?
Then you're bringing a whole new dimension to what an NFT is,
what blockchain is and what AI is and enables.
So you could have your own physical Bored Ape robotic toy,
which is an NFT on the blockchain,
but it has its own AI intelligence.
All kinds of interesting things could happen, but I think the convergence is where things are.
Blockchain, AI, robotics, these kind of things, that's where these things could lie.
No, great points.
All great points. And so, yeah, I think we might have to do another clickbait title follow-up space on this one.
So, especially when we were able to get through like one question so uh hopefully all of
you guys will join us on the next uh episode of uh that we do on this one so it's definitely been
a great topic but yeah let's just kind of lead out uh do some quick outros really quick. Feel free to
drop any alpha that you want, especially around AI stuff.
And we'll
we'll kind of kick it off there.
And then, like I said, we'll we'll do another one of these down the road
here in the next couple of weeks.
Viro, we'll start with you since you got your hand up.
Perfect. Perfect.
So, you know, I'll keep it simple.
I'll say that what we're doing is something
that even the big exchanges are chasing at the moment.
We're giving people, you know,
institutional investment access on a personal level
without having to go through banks, et cetera.
So, I mean, we are bridging the gap
between actually in terms of investing uh through a banker etc
and we are also legally compliant and at the same time we're bringing AI to life doing that so we're
empowering trading with AI uh and you know I kind of stumbled there but I I guess the bigger picture
is that we are giving rewards to people for interacting with our ecosystem.
And we're doing that in a compliant and legal way, something which projects in our space usually lack.
We are regulated in Switzerland and we have a lot of utilities.
So I'd say that make sure you follow us and stay updated because we have some really, really great stuff coming.
That's it.
Perfect.
Thanks for joining us.
Maverick, we'll kick it over to you.
Cody, thank you for having us on.
Amazing space, as always.
Looking forward to the follow-up continuance of this one.
Great job.
Thank you to all the speakers.
Really some great stuff here, guys.
Maverick, layer one for real- world assets and their integration into defy take a look at us uh
give us a follow take a look at what we're doing uh we got some really exciting news coming out in
the next few days and yeah thank you congrats on that news coming out here in a couple of days
a47 we'll shoot it over to you thank you cody for having us
really enjoyed the spaces today um one thing i want to say is make sure you check out our website
check out um our token on deck screener or whatever exchange we're on mexy and bitmart and
some other ones coming soon as well as myco.io which is a watch and earn platform.
And we're essentially their partners in terms of their news segment.
So we're really trying to just take the world by storm.
They've got 22 million users,
and we're the only news option on their platform.
So check us out.
Awesome.
All right, let's go with Chinasu.
Yeah, well, I don't really have an alpha.
All I can say is, personally, I'm working on a podcast mainly on Web3.
So I know this is Web3. So I'm taking time out to really, you know, brimstone with a number of you guys and get to learn and also, you know, connect with you.
But similarities like this.
So we're trying to set up a team that will, international team that will help, you know, push and bring such insight.
Insight like this, conversation like this also, live on X and also distribution on Spotify and you get them on YouTube as much all in the name
of education, which is very important, educating the masses, bringing in experts from different
parts of the world. I'm already doing it with a number of persons. And yeah, that's what
the InstaWaytree podcast is all about. If you go to my profile, you're going to see what
it's all about on the cover photo. So thank you so much. I cannot wait for the second part of this particular
topic. So I look forward to it, Cody. Thank you so much. Yeah.
Yeah, no problem. Vero, let's shoot it over to you.
Oh, we already did Vero.
Sorry.
Ange, go for it.
Awesome being here.
Thanks for having me.
I always love talking about AI, and so I really enjoyed this conversation.
If you do want to check out AVO, we have a closed beta right now.
You can check it out on our website.
If you want access to the actual platform, there's a wait list for that.
But if you were in this space, I'll give you access for free.
You can skip the line if you just message me.
But awesome being here. Thanks, guys.
Awesome. Thanks for joining.
And Ipsico, go for it.
Thank you, guys.
I think Layer 1, Layer 1, you are giving us a great platform to share ideas, share our mindset, how we think about AI.
It's such a good space and that kind of space I have a lot of helping on always.
But yeah, at Genome, we are offering a tool, infrastructure for games, developers and players to come play games.
and players to come play games.
Genome, we are integrating AI to games right now.
We are making sure AI have access to games
and users have access to AI and tournaments.
With Genome, you can never stop looking for games.
You can never stop looking for games
because with Genome, AI and games are intertwined.
They are connected together.
This is the best place you can see how you can,
should I say, play games, perform quests.
We are looking for games and communities to collaborate with
and see how we can help them play games,
how we can help them see users that enjoy games right now.
We have up to 164,000 users on our platform
playing tournaments on Genome, playing games right now. We have up to 164,000 users on our platform playing tournaments on Genome, playing games right now.
And soon we are going to release our AI agent.
That AI agent is going to help you play games,
play tournaments for you while you are busy doing other things.
So yeah, thank you for having me.
Awesome.
I think that is everybody.
So thanks everybody for tuning in.
We appreciate it.
Layer 1X, just a quick little outro for us.
We are a fully decentralized interoperable chain that
focuses on true interoperability,
bridge-less interoperability.
So hashtag burn bridges.
And yeah, so we don't sacrifice speed, cost, or security when it comes to doing cross-chain asset trading, data, and logic trading across chain as well.
So, we are definitely here to unite all of the chains and not compete against them.
So, definitely we want to thank all of our panelists for joining us today.
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