Yeah, the cold steel wind, smiles in the sand, do you think it could change?
Do you think that you could trade?
Your hair will always become hot as the trees.
Hot as the cold breeze, cold comes the change.
Take care of this change, and walk on hard in the water.
Jim, Jim, JimM, how are you?
Are you not going to appreciate the song I played for you to start this thing off today?
Should I know what it was? Wait, is my thing working?
Yeah, I can hear you now, yeah.
I was playing Pink Floyd for you today.
Oh, God. I didn't recognize the song today.
I wish you were here, and now you're here, so...
Oh, man, I feel like shit today, guys.
I've been a bit like that too, man.
Man, this is going to be a rough one, Jim, but we've got to get through it.
We have a commitment to the people.
Yeah, we're not going to back out of...
Danny, pipeline, what's up, brother?
Not too much, Mr. Pancakes.
I'm not feeling 100% myself.
Came down with the flu over the weekend,
but I'm learning that Red Bull actually seems to be a great cure,
Whiskey is really good to cure most things to.
You know what's good is whiskey and port is a good flu.
Me and Greg had COVID together for 10 days in his house, absolutely dying,
and we just drank whiskey every night until we forgot we had COVID,
and it seemed to work out okay.
Dude, finally we can come up.
I'm taking Nashville for like eight days, nine days,
and then I'm coming to London.
Oh, yeah, bring a chain mail.
I'll steal some from my cash.
My girlfriend texted me and was like,
can we do like an official tour of a castle?
And I was like, sure, babe.
We could do some tourist days out.
If you want to take me and Lucy out on like one touristy day,
that would make her so happy.
I can't remember what's touristy anymore.
Also, guys, retweet the space for us if you're here.
We put no effort into this.
We're just kind of chilling on a Tuesday, every Tuesday,
even if we feel like shit.
And there's cat cake points being accumulated
that will be announced soon
once we get technical details worked out.
I know he's fucking farming.
If you're a speaker, you get extra points.
If you're a speaker, you get extra points.
If you retweet the points will never be a token,
but they will be used for something somewhere, somewhere,
In fact, I can say now as well that we've got some
We do have really good merch.
They're going to be ready this weekend.
So once the merch is ready, you can use your points for
merch and I'll probably be about it.
Because we can't make it a token because we both
would like to keep some respect in this industry.
And Gary's Gary would probably be on our arses for fucking
securities fraud or something.
We can't, we can't make it a token.
But if you want cat cake points, the points are coming
and there'll be a dashboard and a leaderboard dating all
We decided till week one, we can date it back to,
and we get to decide who gets points for what reasons,
but the obvious ones will be retweets and a speaker roles.
And if you have a bad opinion, you just lose points.
We'll decide how many points in the moment, but Delta,
how's, how's your life been?
What have you been doing lately?
I've seen you onto my deck spaces.
It's been a pretty boring month.
Where, where are you in the world?
Are you home or are you, are you exploring right now?
Take care of a bunch of stuff.
Is it like an old larder?
Oh, you're going to, oh, you're going to buy one.
I mean, I'm pretty sure that if I won't,
then Andre is going to send someone to find me.
He's definitely got connections, I'm sure.
Just threaten to kill yourself and he does whatever you tell him to do.
How have you guys been doing?
Dude, I've been, I'm so tired.
I'm settled down in Nashville for like the next week or almost two weeks.
And then I'm coming to London for two weeks to see old Jim here and Peach and
Imogen and some other parties.
And are you going to eat Denver?
I'll be on tour with Monrovia.
We have a 30 city tour sold out that we have to hit.
And then I'm going to seven city headlining tours that just sold out the
So yeah, I'll be on the road for a while.
And then we just got asked to be a special guest on a pretty big folk artists
lineup for like one month.
So that's pretty exciting.
Well, other than that, man, just us.
And then April 9th, I'm going back to Argentina to like check in or whatever
I'm changing apartments down there and then flying right back to the US to
do two more sets of tour runs.
So now it sounds dope, dude.
I'll be in London, literally max chillin for like two weeks starting
February 16th until March 1st.
If you decide you want to fly to London, there'll be lots of homies and
I've been talking to pair lately.
I'm going to help you guys out with some stuff.
Well, they won't let me in London, but I'd love to come.
I'm still working on my visa.
You're still working on your visa?
Why does it sound like you're in a fucking...
It's better than the feedback, so...
It sounds like you're in a fucking hole in the ground.
That is not very nice, Jim.
I can't even understand what you're saying.
I completely agree, Brighton.
It sounds like me in the bath, actually.
Yeah, Jim, I think he's actually heating your advice.
He's probably touching grass somewhere.
He's definitely deep in the grass.
He's probably touching grass somewhere.
He's definitely deep in the grass, for sure.
If you want to speak, you can come up and speak.
You'll get extra pancake points of your speaker.
Unless you're extremely out of your mind.
You lose 10 for asking, yeah.
I'll do it today with 10 points.
I'll do it today with 10 points.
You get the most points of anybody, Bright.
Yeah, you can use your points to buy a microphone.
We'll let you use your points just to get a new iPhone.
Yeah, let's do some of my favorite things.
I just, I just got like a new,
a new iPhone in the mail just for filming purposes for tour and like
I'm like, I could have used some of my credits to Simbright something
like an iPhone seven at least.
I screamed it out of existence.
I just think I believe he's a functioning adult.
Just, just, just, just bright.
Just give it a few minutes and come back.
This is one of your two wives phones, man.
I muted bright just for like five minutes.
Uh, other than that, Alan, how are you?
Dude, the, the old iPhones, like the actual word,
the screen's only the size of like a business card.
Like it was actually crazy how, how small, uh, yeah.
Um, yeah, I'm definitely enjoying this, uh, this,
this iPhone screen now, but, uh, it is what it is.
Dude, are you still in LA right now or what?
I barely got back right before the fucking Moses flood happened yesterday.
Dude, I couldn't believe that, man.
The earth is starting to be a little scary out here.
So I'm glad that you survived.
Yeah, dude, we sat on the runway for so long.
I'm in a bad mood, but I'm smiling.
And, uh, 2012, you know, that was a crazy, crazy one.
And we were flying off the runway.
Look, it was breaking up behind us.
Uh, I'm always glad to see you Alan.
You're going to have so many cat cake points because you've been here every
day as a speaker since the beginning.
Um, you're going to be able to get so much free merch.
Bro, I'm just farming bro.
Like, you know, that's the idea.
We want this space to be a farming space.
Like you don't have to be here because you like me or Jim.
Like if you just want to farm points, like just be here.
Um, Andre, I see your hand.
I want to go to bingo and say hi first.
Cause she was up here first and I love bingo.
Take your girlfriend to the town of London.
She's into that whole kind of like,
she loves the most touristy thing you can imagine.
I was thinking that, but it's such an awful doubt.
I don't know if you like that kind of stuff.
You really geek out on it.
Like she wants to geek out on such guys.
Go to the Victorian Albert definitely.
And you can like walk through Hyde park.
Uh, the national portrait gallery,
And then you guys can go along the river,
have a nice day, whatever.
Like the classic depends on like what you like,
if you like the new stuff,
like think about like maybe the tape modern or something.
I haven't even been take modern.
The national is the best one.
For me personally, but I guess your style.
I'll let you text me some of that stuff.
So I don't forget it because I want to,
I'm taking her there for two weeks.
I want to give her a good time for a few days.
So, um, Andre, what is up?
I'm glad you got out of LA because, uh,
I'll give you the current state of the union.
My house is like two inches underwater.
We had a hundred mud slides last night.
There's like all these houses with four feet of mud in them right now.
It's I've lived in LA for years.
Like this is the worst I've ever seen in here.
So I'm glad you, I'm glad you were able to escape.
I don't know. Something in my heart told me,
I had some more Grammy events to go to and some other stuff,
I'm going to go to this as a Rashad show, see him say what's up.
Cause it's something in my heart told me just to come back to Nashville.
And, uh, as I was leaving,
it was like the worst day of the flooding.
So I was like, yes, I made a good decision.
By the way, I used to live in Nash Vegas, best city.
Um, you got to go to Lonnie, Lonnie's Western room.
I'm sure you've been, but if not, you got to go Lonnie's Western.
I guess, uh, yeah, I, I grew up in Nashville.
So I'm, I'm very anti Nashville just cause I grew up here and watched it
Um, and like, like I miss being able to drive, you know?
Uh, you see, you can just drive around Nashville.
Like it was a normal city and now it's not the case.
And it's like the, I mentioned this last podcast, but it's like the traffic
to having fun ratio has been tipped too far.
So like, I don't enjoy the city anymore.
I live there like right before all that happened.
Have you ever seen a random one?
Have you ever seen here come the mummies?
Uh, there's like a, there's like a funk band that's been there for like, uh,
Oh, Jim's that used to open for, uh, George Clinton, but that's my cousin is
Cause they all dressed as mommies.
Miska thought something in our chat earlier was funny, Jim.
I don't know what it was.
She, I woke up this morning with a list of demands from Miska and I was like,
Oh, I woke up hurting so bad.
And the first text I see is Miska with like four demands.
we'll give her a chance to explain herself.
I've just been ignoring all, all messages today.
Um, I had to get a lot of work done.
I got a lot of shit done this morning.
Um, after I finished this,
I had to go to the studio with an artist to work with and then, uh,
work on some wassey verse stuff.
Um, but I'm super excited about Miska.
What the fuck were you doing?
Waking me up with all that shit this morning.
There weren't demands or questions.
Oh God, you stressed me out so bad.
I was like, I woke up and I saw Miska had like a list of demands and I was
I was like, what did I do wrong?
I was like, what the fuck up?
And then I read them and I was like, oh,
I've already done one of these three things.
I guess we can use this as a soft show.
We filmed our first podcast a couple of days ago finally and did it
Um, so consensual chaos podcast episode one will be out within the next
Uh, myself, Michigan, Jim, um, we're going to do it solo dolo for a little
bit until we decided we want to start bringing guests on, but we want to see
how much we can board the people with just ourselves and still get listeners
Um, but I had a lot of fun.
The, the editor that I'm working with really enjoyed it.
Um, I talked to him a bit this morning, so I'll have good news for you soon.
Don't get too angry at me.
Oh, but also I think that Jim was Giga hilarious in the podcast episode and I
can't tell the guy he literally texted me to like the phrase that we knew was
like the funny part of the podcast.
And I was like, yeah, okay.
Um, so that'll be up next week.
It'll be kind of a cool equivalent to this, like super low effort.
I'll be all over the country for the next three months.
Um, but until, until tour ends, which at this point it might be in five years.
I'll be filming from different locations for the next until whenever Jim, we
figured out a good set up in his house to where he can walk around and eat
And Michigan's just going to sit at her laptop and like frantically try not to
It's just an hour of meeting hobnobs.
It's just an hour of you eating hobnobs.
Bro, do I still sound good?
Oh, dude, you, you got, you got a new iPhone.
Did you get your new iPhone?
No, it's one of it's like for, um, one of my work.
How have you been to the last like, I feel like I don't talk to my friends in a
week and a half on crypto and it's like, I don't know them anymore.
But, uh, I know you're always like super busy, but whenever we don't talk for a
Um, I'm trying to, I'm trying to find some balance in my life.
The timeline demands too much of me and I have companies I would like to have
So, um, but yeah, how have you been?
I sent you Elon dot based.
So you can just send funds to Elon dot based on my goddaughter gets, gets free.
So we're trying to buy her a ukulele right now.
Do people know what the ukulele is?
I was supposed to give to one of them.
But so I'm approaching is very, very down.
You said you might have a third wife soon.
Um, um, uh, no, no, I didn't say that.
His fans on with the new iPhone.
If he combines him and his wife's phones together, he's on iPhone 13 by now.
Now, bright, whatever you need, you always hit me up.
Whether it's a new iPhone or, you know, not a wife.
I told you no more wives.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not funding anymore.
Now you better invite me to the wedding.
What are you talking about?
I'm coming to Uganda this year.
I'll be in Uganda this year.
We're also going to be in Liberia.
We're going to be probably in Congo.
I'm at least going to Congo.
So we'll be in Africa around.
Where are you working now?
You're doing other stuff.
Just give me, just give me a full rundown.
For the uranium supplies and you know, such a high demand that even the little
pieces for hats are, are, you know, are difficult to come by, but don't, don't
We'll get you your hat eventually.
But dude, Chas, like Andrew are connecting me with people who are building
companies and you know, those people need a, you know, content that, that I can
You know, you, you'd be the corporate side and show up to meetings and like
submit work on time and then still claim airdrops and like trade shit coins and
And you mesh both of those together and you can have a career.
So are you still, are you still open for work, Alan?
Not, not really as much anymore, man.
Obviously I'm happy to hop on some calls and, and, and chat through things.
Would you, would you be willing to hop on a call of Cryptoons potentially if I
Oh, I mean, of course, dude.
I mean, Toons, you know, Toons is the individual, you know, a big fan of his.
I need, I'm looking for pretty much the best marketing and, and growth people
and community people in the game.
So if you're one of those people, send me a DM and Alan's one of those people.
So I'm going to send you a spreadsheet to fill out.
Andrew is one of those people too.
You got a couple of them on stage.
Well, if you're, if you're looking for any, any type of work, part-time,
full-time advisory, whatever, and it's within the marketing or, or, um,
community space, just shoot me a DM.
Um, bro, how's, how's your stuff, dude?
I mean, you probably, how many hours you sleep in a night, man?
You got like three or four?
No, no, no, dude, I'm back up to six.
Um, my main focus right now is like wassey verse, of course.
And, um, I've gotten stuff with, with my personal company, um, handled.
Uh, so it can pass off to devs.
Um, we're just waiting for MVP stuff.
Uh, so I'm really focusing on like on wassey verse, uh, helping Monet out on
Um, expect some really cool stuff from wassey verse this week, focusing on really
heavily this podcast that, uh, Michigan, Jim and I, uh, and me are, um, are
putting out just cause it's super fun.
And then we actually have a good time doing it.
It's just been, we, we filmed the first one and, uh, uh, I was sent the wrong
And, uh, so my, my audio video wasn't recorded.
So it was just Jim and Michigan talking to each other for an hour.
So, um, so we had to record a new one.
Um, but then we did and it was fun and we got ourselves a producer.
So distribution will be fun on that.
So yeah, I'm just focusing on those things, dude.
I have like six things going on, but you know, combined they're all lower
bandwidth and like a full time job, which is really nice.
And then of course my main, main, main focus being Monrovia because we're
just getting hit from all angles for so many opportunities.
Um, it's kind of hard to juggle, but yeah, man.
Jim, what do you got going on?
I've been in a state of melancholy.
I hurt my back, which is like the most tragic old man like moment I've had
How did you, how did you hurt your body?
It was, um, I was playing golf and I tweaked it.
I don't even know how, but yeah, I've not been able to go to the gym for
like five days or something before that.
Jim's I've seen Jim's house.
Like he's, he's really roughing it right now.
And, um, he's, he's having a hard time though.
So pray for him for sure.
It's tough choosing which window to fucking just stare out.
So we're giving him, we rented a nice Airbnb in, uh, in Hackney.
Uh, so he was seven beds.
So he has a place to sleep, uh, without roaches.
So, you know, um, we're really excited for him to have that opportunity.
Well, I'm looking forward to it actually.
I just talked to Tim exile this morning.
He wants all of us to come to the office and, um, me, you and peach really give
some, some IRL input into the, into the product and stuff.
So I'm super excited about that.
I think we should just make a song with all four of us.
I think we could, I think we should make a song.
I think we should do a podcast there.
Um, I talked to image in this morning.
I think she's down to do a podcast.
So that would be a fun one.
Um, that, you know, maybe consensual chaos episode three or four is featuring
Um, that'd be a good early guest.
And then, uh, we'll take it from there.
I'm still offended that Kay money called our podcast a swap meet podcast.
He was this kind of offensive, but, um, I know he meant well.
No, no, no, no, no, not the podcast, the production quality.
Well, the production quality is top notch.
I think that's the beauty of our show, but came when he doesn't need to
do green screen skits for living.
But he started the swap meet too, which everyone did.
And Kendrick would be extremely offended if you were talking shit about the
which is probably underwater at this time.
Now that I think about it.
Hey, it's a, it's a tragedy.
Are you, are you flooded yet?
Are you still sunny and smiling?
Uh, I'm, I don't know how, but I live in the very specific part of my city
that is like completely unaffected.
But if I drive 15 minutes out, there's like tragedy.
So I'm fine, but people around me aren't that fine.
I'm so happy that you didn't come up to LA because you would not have been able
Like, I think that worked out for the best for sure.
Something, something told me, just fly back to Nashville and go be at home
with your homies and like work with your artists.
And I was like, yeah, I'm going to do that.
And then it just, everything got destroyed.
If he wants to talk, you know, I heard I get some extra points for speaking.
I'm going to do some cat cake points just for speaking.
Me and monkey have been hustling the last like 18 hours on some dope wassey
verse stuff that's coming soon.
I'm trying to think, should I, should I post the t-shirt like rough sketch
or would the eyes be pissed off at that?
No, go ahead and post the t-shirt rough sketch of the cat cake shirt.
Let's post it underneath.
But we're going to have cat cake March really soon on, on the cat cake
Twitter, which I forget the name of.
Cause I messed it up and I got to change it again.
I actually can't believe I get the fucking design.
We're going to have hats and shirts available immediately.
I'm super excited about that.
I basically just said I will comic book style.
Oh, it won't let me share it because you're on private gym.
So I'm going to, I'm going to share it myself.
Told you I'm in a man and color.
Post and then replies sent and then boom.
So yeah, this is the design for the t-shirt and we're going to,
we're going to figure out something to do for a hat.
but we're going to drop a t-shirt and a hat, uh,
pretty soon for cat cake podcast slash spaces.
We're going to put it on all the podcast networks.
But me and Jim and Michigan just decided that we wanted to like back out of
crypto and talk to real people the rest of this year.
So we, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So instead we're just here talking to the same people we've been talking to
for four years, um, on Twitter spaces and pretending that anything has changed.
Um, when really nothing has changed.
It's not, I want to talk about things other than crypto.
You guys stay guys, please.
Actually don't, don't leave and retweet the space.
Anything other than crypto.
I started with a pink Floyd song and Jim didn't recognize it.
So that was, uh, but it was just so run of the mill.
I started with, I wish you, no, it was, I wish you were here and he didn't
We have a new, we have a new speaker.
Um, who must you bet point farmers.
You can, you can, you can point farm if you want.
Um, that's the whole point of this, this space is to point farm.
Um, everyone wants the cat cake points this season.
Apparently I just, from what I'm hearing, I've heard things.
I think you're going to be going to a hair is been here in London or no.
It's like that department store, like with all the clothes or all the
Oh, we won't, we won't be in any department stores, but dude, dude, it's
Maybe I didn't say justice, bro.
I'm telling you, like, it's like the gym.
How do I explain Harrods to, uh, to pancakes?
Here it sounds like a restaurant in the U S from the deer and south of
the English, uh, English culture, bro.
Harrods is like their top of the line.
I don't, I don't think pancakes would want it in Harrods.
I don't think that's the right.
I need, I need rappers wearing gold, like diamond studded gold wassey
I mean, you, the rappers are at Harrods, dude.
Jim are the rappers at Harrods.
No one gets to Harrods anymore other than tourists and all people.
It's okay to be, I'm a tourist too.
I'm about to do my girlfriend text me this morning and say, can we go tour a big
I'll, I'll book whatever you want.
So we're, we're touring some big castle.
I liked the London tower, bro.
I know it was touristy, but I was like, this is kind of.
That's the touristy thing, dude.
You're not supposed to say the name, right?
You proved people that you're a tourist.
It doesn't count if you come to the speaker and not speak.
Hey, I cursed in front of his children yesterday and I still feel really bad
They were on the space, like giving us cute poetry and whatnot.
She's trying to Soviet pill all your children.
All I do is I screamed really loudly.
And then the kids look somewhere else.
And then I just quickly jumped off the space with good crosses.
My neck is actually starting to hurt less.
Have you been doing cartwheels?
I've been trying to sleep on airplanes.
I think doing cartwheels is really good exercise right now.
I can't get all the vertebrae at least enough.
We should do a few cartwheels.
There's more risk in hurting someone else with cartwheels.
And Jim, you should do some handstands for your boomer back pain.
Bro, I get cramps in my neck and they've been fucking bad recently.
Like when I yawn sometimes.
I need an Epsom salt bath.
You know, I think the reason I fucked my back up was I started doing daily stretches, like hip stretches.
I think I was better when I was just tight all the time.
Jim, what have we become?
We've some deep problems.
We're complaining about the most not complainable things ever.
I had the most awful old man moment last summer.
I went to a three day music festival.
And the first day, absolutely steamboated like up until 4 a.m.
Like a day, day after I couldn't stand on my feet for one 10 minutes.
I had to keep stretching because I was getting like sciatic pain and I was tired.
And I was like, I was like, it just hit me that I can't do three days in a row like I'm fucking 20 anymore.
Hey, what day is the show that we got tickets for?
It's going to be amazing.
You guys, what do you guys, what kind of shows is it?
We're going to a Harry Potter live.
I would do the Broadway and London's kind of sick.
Harry Potter live in London is where we're going.
Jim loves live Harry Potter shows.
Well, I wouldn't mind going through that.
They con you by splitting into two parts and you can have a full day out, right?
It's like you watch the two performances.
No, me and Jim are going to a good old fashioned music event on the 18th somewhere in the
So we're super excited about that.
Thanks for getting the tickets.
I haven't seen them before, so not live.
I haven't seen one of them before.
We might as well say it is.
I don't really care to be honest.
They can't get tickets, right?
So we're going to see Fortet.
There's no resale tickets.
It's going to be, it's going to be a vibe.
It's going to be really vibey.
But I went to, I've seen Fortet twice now.
And I saw him, I saw him do his only extended set of the year last year.
It was a five hour set in Finsbury Park and it was nuts.
It was one of the best music experiences I've ever had to be honest.
I've wanted to see Fortet for a long time, Jim.
He had you in the parmesan, like just messing with it all day.
Like you take you up, bring you back.
He's just, he's the guys, guys, the best I've ever seen to be honest.
I have one guy like that.
I've seen Tyco 12 times because I just love ambient techno.
I was just saying goodbye without interrupting you.
He was just toying with you.
He did like three D&B bangers and then he ended up doing like, what's that suit?
You know that Make Your Way Downtown tune.
He did that for the whole room for it and everyone was just kind of like in like calming
I'm super excited you got us tickets and we have some homies coming.
I have not met IRL that I'm so excited to meet.
I'm sharing a hilarious drug story I had there actually.
It depends how big you want to make it.
So I was like, I was probably three and a half to four hours in and I was peaking.
I was like dropping bad and I seen this guy that we met there randomly was like bumping
some white powder, which looked like cocaine.
I was like, do you mind if I have a little key of that just to see me through to the
I was like, yeah, no worries.
I took this fairly heroic key of what I thought was cocaine.
And for the last hour I was fighting the biggest K hole in my life and just as it started to
hit me, he did the hardest fucking drug strike I've ever heard.
And I thought my heart was going to stop.
And then the whole way walking out of Frisbee Park, I was like doing these giant strides
like I was looking through a fucking quagmire.
Oh, boy, dude, we're going to we're just going to start a space at five thirty in the morning,
Oh, it's going to be fun.
So so that's when you're coming up to the house, right?
It's like like after the show, just probably come up to the house, chill, and then you're
going somewhere else to do a thing.
I'll come during the day that day.
So if you come during the 17th, we can travel together to the show and then help hand hold
each other's hands back to the house.
And then I think my girlfriend will probably be there by then.
So that should be interesting.
I see printer mainnet live in here a lot.
I'm talking about in this speaker.
Hey, what do you guys do?
We are actually a PerpDEX live on base.
I just kind of tune into your spaces just because I find them kind of entertaining in
the afternoon time in the UK.
You're going to have a lot of points.
I've seen you in here every week.
Regular guests at this point.
So printer XYZ gamified decentralized spot and perpetual future.
All the words that I worked for at IDEX that I didn't understand.
I helped grow a community for a DEX before even knowing how trading works or what a DEX
But yeah, that's good for you guys.
I just see printer here a lot.
But thanks for the kind words.
You're welcome to come speak anytime.
Jim, how's your trading going?
Bro, I barely touched it.
You know what's funny is we did that podcast, didn't we, the other week?
And I was like, it wouldn't surprise me if we had fucking six months of just torture.
And I'm kind of like, fuck me, man.
I don't want to be right for it like this.
I think you're going to be right.
I woke up and everyone said Solana went out.
How long were they out today?
I don't know, man, but it's just tea.
It's just painful price action.
I think that's why I saw the main reason.
I've been bored out of my mind.
Oh, so you still like, you still like trading.
You just don't like talking about it.
No, it's like, I'm always like trying to beat the game kind of things.
You're trading like wheat futures and things like that.
You're not really trading coins at this point.
I thought you said something else.
I'll trade anything really.
I found out what kind of person Jim was when I had to teach him how to use
base and he was like one of the most popular people in the space.
And I was like, what do these people do?
And I was like, Oh, okay.
It sounds like you and Victor are very similar in that.
It's like, it's like playing, it's like playing Mario or something.
It's like relaxing for me.
It feels like pretty like I've got it because I'm pretty ADHD.
It's like on that podcast the other day, um, I generally, I'm relaxed when I'm
Um, you know, that's kind of stresses people out there.
It's like where I feel most calm.
I don't understand how scalping is calming.
Um, but I added Victor as speaker.
When it's a free, when it's a free flow market, it's like, um, it's like
The market will have like a cadence and a BPM and you just kind of like
Where are you in the world right now?
I'm in Sao Paulo, brother.
I think that later this week.
And then, uh, then I'll, I'll see you guys in Denver.
Are you going to come to Denver?
I will be on a international tour.
Jim will be in his, his rundown.
Jim never leaves his house, bro.
I will be on a international tour.
Jim will be in his, his rundown.
Jim never leaves his house, bro.
Yeah, Jim doesn't leave his house.
Listen, I tried to get Jim to come out like 17 different times.
And he has accepted Zero.
I got him to come to an image and heat party.
Last time I was in London, and then he's agreed to come to mine and peaches
London Airbnb in a few weeks to hang out with some
Well, no, I heard you guys had a good time when vicar was in town I heard you got
Didn't party too hard bro. This this man kept fucking ordering shots over and over and over again
I was like, are you sure Jim? Is that you that was he's like, yeah
No, yeah, I was definitely doing that too. But like see I was alive like I was still breathing
I'm really like you were in another dimension
Yeah, what it wait, what is what is cat cake? But what do you what do you talk about on the spaces?
Why me read the time if you just get Jim drunk
No, we just every Tuesday. We just get on here and talk about anything but crypto
But it's turned into crypto a little bit today
Me and Jim me and Jim met in London and just hit it off
And we decided to want to start a spaces weekly where we just talk about whatever and then we also had a podcast
With Misko where we talk about whatever and we have some cool guests coming up
Yeah, I do four spaces a week and I haven't missed one yet
I'm I remember doing the first I take space like terrified shaking and sweating because it was a trading space and like now I
I could kill it because it would be easy to be obvious that I don't know what I'm talking about
But like now spaces are fun and I'm having a good time
I'm definitely a spaces maxi like as many times I can
Like take the time away to do them. So yeah, I do for a week right now. I
Just got my IDEX hat in the mail from Manuel, so I'll be posting that on the timeline really soon
What's within your favorite place Victor on your trip, I
Don't think Victor can hear me. I don't think Victor. Yeah, I think he was taught. I can't hear Victor either
If you want to drop and come back up, you're welcome to
Misko's back again. Misko's request questions speak 18 times, you know, Misko every time you request doesn't get you extra points
That's just for the record. I
Know I just keep getting phone calls. Oh, you're oh, you're that important. Okay
To be fair like two of them were spam for sure
If the numbers not saved in my phone, I don't answer it. I'm waiting for an important call
Demanding yeah, you're you were demanding as hell this morning. I woke up and I was like, oh no
Yeah, I said mom's mad this morning I was like fuck
Woke up at Michigan had like four requests for our podcast and I was like, bro. I'm neck hurts. I just flew in from a fucking
You said update and then like four different bullet points and I was like, I'm not it just wake up to a fucking homework assignment
There's a reason I don't have a job anymore. That's good. That's cuz I don't have bullet points
I'm just fucking with you. There's all good
No, I but all right. All of your questions are answered. So safe knowing that
You started it with updates full stop, which is
Like you use actual punctuation and grammar and text it makes you look like some devil
No, however you take this too serious, I don't know how you take this is why this is why I never have text conversations of people
Never response Jim never responds ever
Okay, you got to get his phone to like ding real fucking hard
If he hears the ding he'll do it
Definitely jump in with a ha ha
Just a ha ha that's all you get. Yeah with Jimmy. Yeah, and ha ha and sounds good. That's about it
You know 90% of the things Jim says is I hate like it always starts with I hate and then it's
You're like born to be a hater dude, you would literally like created in the crucible of the fucking earth
Yeah, he's a nice IRL hater
Took us he took us to the best sushi restaurant
I've personally ever been to in London and I was like this sounds familiar. I hate
He does that but then he takes you to the best place ever and then
That's how he and I bonded was was over sushi and and like they would serve a shot every time there was a new dish
And they're like 10 dishes. No, like Jim. This isn't right. This isn't fair
Yeah, you don't you don't want them to end up in that situation
And we had drank before hand too and like I'm I'm supposed to be sober
So I was like Jim we can't I can drink white wine and chardonnay and that's literally it and they were sending us like
shots of sake every 10 minutes for four hours, so
It was fine. I just remember when I met up with Victor. It was when I joined that space with you and I was stuck in
Yeah, you got lost in mr. He missed you. I've never seen Jim sober actually
Oh, yeah, I smashed the bits in Singapore as well
I've only seen Jim sober actually I didn't cuz he didn't get that messed up that night
We just went to image ins and like you left before you got too messed up. I think
Yeah, the minute I met Jim the first thing he said was I hate Singapore
He didn't even say hello to me he just said I hate Singapore he looked at me like dead in the fucking eyes
What is that what's IDEX doing at Denver this year
Yeah, we're gonna be doing something. It's like remember the the plushies
Yeah, I do. I'm we're gonna this is some secret outfit for the for the spaces
I'm dropping crazy out there here, but we're gonna hide them all over the venue
Oh tweet pictures of them and then motherfuckers can find them and take you cool
So it'll be like a little Easter egg hunt
Yeah, I would come back to Denver if I wasn't gonna be in I think Vancouver doing that week
But yeah, you're doing music shit now, huh? I'm back full-time manager, huh? Full-time music. Yeah
That's it. Yeah. Yeah, you know thing things were things happened and that I didn't expect at my last
place of employment and but it pushed me to go in the direction that uh
that I was most happy and I'm I'm in the space but
I'm pretty much just like advising it like one one place kind of part-time and
just doing music stuff and doing podcast stuff and then doing wassey verse like
That's the only thing I'd consider like a full-time like so what do you want to do doing you like five five ten years?
Like like that you see yourself having your own label or like how far do you want to go music?
I just want to have a management company with four to five artists that I consider family
and we don't take any of their masters and we don't take
We don't take control of any other music and we I would like to handle my artists a hundred grand up front
Not as in advance, but as a here you go. Let's work together and see if it works out
And pretty much just be the most artist centered
Management company and music that's what I want to do. So and then
And then also even he has offered me a job with her at creative passport
Where she's pretty much cutting out like 60% of the middleman in music with her company
So there's a chance that I go work there. I've been kind of doing that for free for her for like a year
Just she's my favorite human
And then I heavily invested in her and Tim exile's company. It was like my first angel investment ever. So
And then airdrop farming right now, you know, but uh, the next four or five years
I'll just be yeah. Yeah, I'm all my stuff locked up in shit that might work
I love how you said all that shit and then you followed it up with also I'm there drumming. Well, yeah
We love on here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but see I'm in the top like 5% of all the airdrop farms because I found that
Yeah, so I'm like really high up in Camino and margin finding and parcel and all that shit that probably will rug and then
I and then like if just one of them hits
Just eat just stables and I can pull it in. You're gonna get right. There's no lock up though. There's no lock
Don't like if I lose that 30k, I'm gonna be coming back get begging for a job. Okay, so I can't get right
I've had like three supposed to be supposed to be kingmaker things happen in the last four months and
One of them didn't work out this so well
You know when you start fantasizing about things cuz you're looking at like unrealized pull your fucking money out
Trust me as soon as you start opening Zillow or anything. It's over. Just just fucking every fucking time
Yeah, you're looking at a new car. You're checking out a new car clothes clothes
It's always the peak the peak P&L is when you start looking at looking Porsches
I just closed on a new apartment. So like it's probably over for me, right? Oh, yeah, it's a done. Yeah
I knew it. I have enough money to pay for one year of that apartment. It's probably the last year of my life
So that's fine after I think I think after one more year of this fit and gets really fucking anyway, so
It's tough man. I was like really sad
For a long time and I realized it wasn't really like
Me or like a job or anything. It was just being dug into the timeline 24-7 and that shit's hard
So I just kind of backed out and like I took some time especially after
What what recently happened? I really took some time away from the timeline and had to like
reassess my life and I was like, yeah, it's time to go back to music so I I
Was invited onto the team with Monrovia and then reconnected with my last few artists. So that's what I'm doing
I'm just trying to be happy to be honest. I think Jim's trying his best to be happy actually
Yeah, that's a great question for Jim. Jim. Are you happy?
Yeah, do you think being in the middle of fucking nowhere makes the unhappy or happy? Oh
No, I just so are you unhappy
Again, it goes back to the white course saying about like I'm either I'm either incredibly incredibly bored and
No, it's just like me and Jim are making a song next week
With yes with Jim exile peach and and somebody else like that a song
I don't know yet. Whatever Jim wants to make I
It's been a night. It's been an idea for like multiple days. So I think so unless he's been fucked up
I mean, I wouldn't put it past him
But I mean, it's it's a sober idea. I've got I've got points on a couple artists try I'm ready
I'm gonna make a song make a track
I'm not singing but please make a banger. We need another like we need this generations pump it loom dart
You know, we haven't had a we haven't had a banger since the the chick with the fucking
No, no, no, I'm talking about before we before we teeth that was none of that was the song that ended it
I'm talking about the one before that. It was like it was like the Michael Saylor song
Do you not remember there was like a girl singing about? Yes. I remember that was right when I was thinking
Yeah, that was the last good song
It was like pumping loom dart and then that one and then like some of the moon boy shit or a little Lambo or whatever
Yes, it was like pretty funny, but it never really made it to the timeline cuz it wasn't as fucking funny. I
Mean anything we drop is gonna chart billboard. So like we're you know, we're swinging for the fences here. Okay
I'm inspired. I'm very excited. Yeah, we'll be in London March. I mean February 16th through March 1st
Wait, are you coming alone? I live in the UK now brother. That's why I have to fucking message all the time and get ghosted
Yeah, bro. I'm about to be there in like a week and a half for two weeks. I'll see I'll see you there work with who
Yet if you want to come by the crib just like we had a seven-person crib. Oh, it's fucking dude, bro
I'll see you then. Oh, what the fuck? I thought big was moving to Asia. Oh
Yeah, yeah soon soon soon soon like one more year one more you're in
Exactly cuz I got to get used to driving on the retarded side of the road, you know
Because of Japan they drive on the same side as UK so I had to get some practice rounds in
Yeah, I had to drive from the very tip of Auckland all the way down to Queenstown on the wrong side of the road
And it was absolutely horrible, bro. When I got to the UK, I had to write like a van
Cuz I had all my shit with me right and it was like a nine-seater giant-ass fucking minibus
And it was the first time I was driving on the left side of the road and I swear to God I scratched that
It's like 17 times just driving driving from London
Like I didn't scratch the the the car itself, but I scratched like you have the tires or whatever
Because I would keep hitting curbs because I couldn't like understand how wide it was and also I'm on the wrong side of the fucking road
So it was a fucking nightmare, bro, and it was there was a storm at the same fucking time. It was like a very UK experience
By the way, by the way, if anyone is ever thinking of moving to the UK abandon the idea immediately
Abandoned like just fucking immediately don't even allow that thought to foster was the dumbest fucking decision ever man
I can't wait to get the fuck out of here. You turn out like me if you stay long enough
I'm a perfect example of what happens when you move to the UK
I'm gonna come to gym defense and be like, oh, there's nothing wrong with Jim. He's just British
Everyone I mean at the pub everyone I mean at the pub is actually just like Jim
It's all really dark fucking humor like they're depressed, but they're like because I'm witty
I'll I'll act like I'm not depressed but dude the zero Sun
the constant fucking dog shit bitter-ass beer
But the great skies the great skies really get you bro
Like I was kind of fine when there was a little bit of Sun
But as soon as it's like a week of rain and just fucking grace guys, bro
It's instant suicide the overcast is what kills you
That's really what like if it wasn't for the overcast skies, I can deal with everything else, but it's
Best I think like from you know, June onwards to all good
Yeah, it's the same thing as Toronto like Toronto's nice in the summer, but then it's dog shit year-round
Well, I'm saying we're coming to Toronto for tour and I was like, I'm gonna hit Vic up
But now you're in the UK, but all right
But we're doing a world war in 20
Don't know you can't you can't like UK is a special kind of down bad like Canada's down bad
But like it's it's definitely not as down bad as UK like you you can
Especially because the pound is so fucking expensive. So I go to fucking I go to the grocery store
Like 12 eggs is like 15 Canadian dollars
I'm like just instantly fucking robbed like I come out and then I have to go make some stupid
Ass fucking gym copy trade, but I lose money on because he fucking front ran me
It's rough out here, man. I'm telling you do not do not move. Hey, whatever you do. Just do not come here
How do you think I felt coming from Buenos Aires landing in Los Angeles and getting a $50 uber to my fucking house?
Like I was like, okay, this is a fucking scam like I'm used to $4 ubers to go for 30 minutes. This is terrible
Yeah, South America sick South America. Yeah, let's say how I think
Jim Jim was asking me like what my favorite place has been. It's kind of hard part to say but Brazil is definitely
Very very high up on the list
Columbia was fucking sick. I was I was chilling with Loomdart Loomdart there. It was it was a fun time
Between like Columbia and
Well, I'll be back in my new apartment in April for the last year of my life
In Buenos Aires, so you'll have a whole year to come visit me before I go broking. Yeah. Nice. Yeah
Yeah, we got it. We got to maximize the
Remainders of the this idea. I didn't realize how deep I was and things that we're gonna rug. So
Yeah, usually usually you want to stay away from the steak bun because that's the rug like if you don't steak shit
Usually a little bit more fine, but you know, yeah
But like I'm farming tensor as well
But that takes a lot of work and time and it's just like it's just really annoying trading NFTs. I've never heard of
But monkey got me on that I trust monkey cuz he did so well on there
Shit, I'm a blur airdrop. So I was like monkey knows what he's talking about
So I'm kind of farming ten tour a little bit. Oh, we're at two o'clock. We'll wrap in the next ten minutes
But yeah monkey, what are you up to right now?
I'm just laughing that people still still fall for the inspect element thing on airdrop time
What I was I see every airdrop I just inspect element
I change it to a ridiculous amount that I say is this good and people go wild. I
Have it all I do is what monkey tells me to do
That's my that's my like cut off for where I should be putting my money
You know my confidence in some of these defy teams that changes by the day. It does change by the day. Yeah
Yeah, it's it is what it is. Oh, I just got a text that said bank account contract just got terminated
I don't know what that means. I don't know. Okay, it's the start of the end, bro
Someone just takes the group chat that I'm in bank account contract was terminated
They're closing like oh, it's not my account. Okay. Well someone's account just hit close in the group chat that I'm in
Yeah, monkey's not group chat, too
Anyway monkey, and I just spent a glorious two and a half weeks and when it's hard together and really did things or a body
And I definitely regret a lot of them, but it was a good time. You might want to be more specific there
We okay, we put we put substances in our body that we shouldn't have
Yeah, yeah a lot to my how about that lots of my favor to eat
Yeah, I don't know but I'm healing
Not London LA was nice and a nice sober week and a half
And then London will be like semi sober whenever I'm not out with Jim. So
Do you you can't I can't spend a fucking hour in London being sober. How the fuck are you gonna do that?
I don't know. I went to London. It's fucking depressing
The only thing you can do is drink and then get drunk enough to talk to people
Yeah, and then here they're shitty ass dry fucking dark humor. Where did I stay Victor?
Cuz you maybe you just had like a really bad experience. No, he lives there. I live there now
London's not that bad. There's really there are nice places. Yeah
Don't know you have the doctor but like I mean what we're like we're saying in in Hackney
Won't say specifically where but like I mean short shortages a nice area my thing and then you got like the rich people area
That's not that's not London though, that's yeah, I
Just agree. Yeah, Mayfair nice bridges is like the the only good light. It's like the best part
It's like the last remnants of like British sort of stability
Jim has not slept on a hotel about bed. That wasn't like a five-star bed. Oh, I'm sure I like
1995 have you seen this house? I mean Jesus
Cat I've ever seen that has like plenty of biscuits. This man has plenty of biscuits
And we were talking about duck and our last podcast and he was just talking shit about how bad my duck was and I was like
Biscuits on the planet to keep us going through all the podcast we have to film
Yeah, we're gonna have to keep shoveling Jim biscuits to keep the podcast going. Someone just take me
Okay, the reason I stopped wanting to make money because I realized I'll just be more depressed. Yeah. Oh, it's true
They grind is the best thing
Yeah, just I just intentionally lose trades just to keep myself level, you know
It'll keep you relevant on the timeline longer too because if you lose trades people empathize with you exactly
Bro, you got to post the lost porn. Yeah, if you just if you only post wins, then you're eventually people gonna get tired of so
Oh, wait, did I finally pass Victor? I did
Wow, oh now now that I know that space is the alpha I'm just gonna fucking host my own fuck this
That's a lap you again son
Alright, we'll see I hit 30. I might hit 30k today. We'll see it's crazy cuz uh, I think when when I
Think when we first started out I laughed you
And then you came back real fucking quick with your Solana friend tech hard on
It wasn't a hard on it was a conviction blade, okay
That's exact. That's the same exact fucking thing. Oh
Man, it was a conviction play that didn't work out. Okay, and um, I mean it worked out fine for my following count
My hundred dollars a month Twitter check doesn't exactly make up for it. So
It's all good we stay smiling we stay positive
All my all my followers are liquidating like there's no one on so they have to just roll the timeline. That's good
I have to get new I have to get new motherfuckers on I got I gotta start a new like content Ponzi
I gotta start streaming or something again. I gotta get a new way in there spaces
Spaces though, but like I think I think if if Elon doesn't fuck it up like Twitter live streams will be the next out
But that's why I'm waiting that like which yeah
Back and I think compete with twitch. I'm all for it, bro. I'll be the I'll be the best. I'll be the top fucking
Com streamer. There's no but it's it's it's it's kind of shit
Like they only just now release the OBS connection, but the thing is like the quality of dog shit
Like it just it doesn't have the the same bit rate that you're able to upload to twitch and YouTube
That's gonna see we'll see we're just gonna stream on Rovio like playing evil lately
But like yeah, the obvious stuff is gonna be like shit quality for a while. I'm gonna test it soon, but we'll see
I'm gonna be set with a packet of hob knobs
I hate all the uk words that have been fucking
Turned and twisted into other shit like you don't call it. There's no parking lot. It's a car park
Fuck you a lift an elevator, bro. There's so many stupid fucking little oh my god
It's so fucking annoying everyone everyone the also okay the real big problem with the uk actually though is everyone thinks I'm a burger
Because if people in the UK think you're a burger, it's it's so bad. Oh my god, dude
It's fucking awful. I have to immediately tell them by the way. I'm not american
I just want you to know that but my name's my name is victor and also by the way
I'm not american like literally first first fucking wears out of my mouth just to gain some respect
Just tell him you're ukraine refugee, okay, i'm more like a i'm more like a hot dog
No, you're a ukraine refugee that spent most of his life in canada
If I tell anyone i'm a ukraine refugee, they're gonna be like where's my tax money
There's really no winning
They call americans burgers. Is that what you're telling me?
Yes, bro. Everyone's called. What do you mean the whole timeline?
Bro, that's funny because to my understanding the the british war read as camouflage. The gym city is getting hobnobs right now
Listen if you really want to eat a knob I I got something for you, brother. Wow. Okay, it's gonna be hot play
So you're telling me after you after you spout all this fucking bullshit people follow you
Yeah, i've gotten 40 followers in this space
From this this fucking gibberish
Jim talking about hobnobs
You just jump up you just start a space with somebody that like both of you are equally kind of respected and then you just
Get people to listen and then I don't think
Yeah, I think only only like uh
I mean, maybe it's just us. I don't know. I got 40 followers since we started i'm gonna break 30k today
Or no. No, i'll break 29k. Shit. I got robed. I'm gonna rate 29k
I'm amazed i'm on fault. I'm unfollowing you right now patkicks physical. We gotta fight you physical. What are you? What are you doing at?
Oh, you're oh, well, you can almost at 25. Yeah, unfollowing me won't do anything for you physical. Sorry
Don't make me feel good. I'm good. You're i'm glad you're up here though, but we are gonna wrap the space
Um, I have I have some work to do i'm technically unemployed, but I have a lot of work to do. So, um
I gotta go to the studio. Jim. I hope you've been you've smiled at least once during this podcast space. Whatever we're doing here
Maybe you haven't I don't know
Yeah, pancake, can you check your dance by the way? Yeah physical. I got you. I have a question. Okay
Yeah, what demands do you have miska?
Um, yeah, are you pacing in the kitchen gym?
Is that floorboard worn down is there like a gym path for the kitchen it's not it's not it's tile
Yeah, so is there like a tile path?
Yeah, okay. You should when you guys watch the first casual chaos podcast
You'll understand what we mean because most of it's jim just walking back before consensual
Guys, I slept like four hours. Give me a break
I woke up with demands from miska and in two meetings and i've been holding it together ever since. Um
God, I can't wait to be in the uk and have an excuse to drink like champagne
No, you can wait to be in the uk. You you can definitely wait and also wait forever probably at that
Wow, I have i've already booked my flights. I have to come my well, actually i've booked my girlfriend's flights and not mine
So I need to hurry up and book mine. She's gonna end up there all by herself. God, you're gonna leave her in east
Um, all right guys, we're gonna wrap today. But remember starting from the very first cat cake space
We're gonna be allocating cat cake points to users that you can claim
Uh, we're gonna have a dashboard. They're not gonna ever become a token or be useful, but we will have merch
Um, thanks for coming and hanging out. Um, I love you. Jim hates you and uh, thanks for speaking
Vic thanks for coming up. I'll actually see you soon. I'm actually really excited
I'll be there for two weeks. So yeah
Cheers guys. Bye. Bye everyone. All right. Cheers. See y'all. Bye. Bye