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🌱 Chia Conspiracy Space . Talk Chia , Blockchain or Any Real World Events Uninterrupted Long Form + Open Mic
Recorded: Jan. 9, 2026 Duration: 3:40:36Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, participants explored the potential of Chia as 'Bitcoin 2', highlighting its growth opportunities and the importance of a grants program for its success. Concerns were raised about the project's current trajectory, including the implications of a pre-farm and the need for community support to foster innovation and sustainability.
Full Transcription
Good morning. We're live.
A lot coming on.
Thought it was a good time to do a space.
A few things that I want to say.
As always, let's just get this posted in the right places.
And we'll see who strolls in.
Open forum if anyone wants to come
up and talk put their thoughts down on the record in a recorded format which is most transparent of
course and i will be sipping my coffee doing an update let's put it in the chia spaces alerts
let's tweet it out it's already in the chia plot discord kudos to them we're going to get
into it this morning lots of things being said by people outside the community in a sense uh
they're in it but outside it they're not closely following it and uh some people have been saying
stuff that i kind of agree with actually people won't like that, but that's not
That's not for me to really worry about too much. The truth is the truth and
There's something beautiful about talking about the truth. So whatever that is, let's just get this tweeted
It should just be one click tweet, but anyway post this
paste this paste hashtags It should just be one click tweet. But anyway, post this. Paste this.
Paste hashtags.
So I think the best thing, as I'll be solo hosting today,
is for me to get my morning marijuana, my morning coffee,
and go on a monologue.
I think that works best for me. But firstly, and go on a monologue. I think that's best, works best for me.
But firstly, let me just tweet this out.
And I'm even going to put my socks on today. It is a chilly morning in Bangkok.
Not quite Arctic weather, but even still, it requires socks. So please give me a couple of
minutes. I'll be back soon to talk about the CIA,
Gene, his role in it, the PayPal mafia,
and everything else.
So it should be set to anyone can come up and talk.
So yeah, that's how it will be.
I'll be back in about one minute or so.
I'll be high as a kite by then,
and I'm going to say some controversial stuff
that needs saying, and I'm looking forward to it. So get the headphones loose. I'm going to say some controversial stuff that needs saying, and I'm looking forward to it.
So get the headphones loose.
I'm going to burn your ears this morning.
I'll be back in about 60 seconds time. Thank you. Oh, yeah, it's coming through my TVs.
Basically, I'm on my phone.
That's good. I can have it running on my TVs. Basically, I'm on my phone. That's good.
I can have it running on my computer, and then I can talk through my phone.
It just allows me a little bit more flexibility.
Okay, there we go.
Okay, so it's not quite the 60 seconds yet.
I just want to test it. It'll be another 30 seconds, then I'll be ready to rock and roll,
get ready for this monologue. It's going to burn the. It'll be another 30 seconds. Then I'll be ready to rock and roll. Get ready for this monologue.
It's going to burn the ground in a good way. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, here we go.
Here we go. so what is going on i'm on my mobile phone if it sounds different so i'm just going to say what I think is going on, truth speak.
It appears that Chia, which is Bitcoin 2,
has been co-opted by a secret service,
a secret society posing as a blockchain company.
So what I'm saying is I think CNI is actually a CIA shell company.
The people in it won't know.
So that doesn't mean the people working there are CIA agents.
No, most of them won't be.
Gene will be, but the others won't.
So Gene is working for the elite, is my understanding.
He's in the PayPal mafia.
That's back with some fairly strong evidence
and things he said,
suspicious things he said,
but mostly what he's done.
So Chia is Bitcoin too.
I think that's really why most people are here.
I think the people that are in the Chia community,
they know it's Bitcoin too in that sense.
And logically, well, if Bitcoin too gets launched, I want to support it because it's good.
I mean, even if you don't make money from it, it's still good because it's decentralization.
And the more the merrier, blah, blah, blah.
And the more parties, the more cakes, the better.
So most people call it Chia,
but I'm sure most people are here because it's Bitcoin too.
It's the hush conversations on the streets.
It's the, wow, Bram's in.
It's the, you know, he invented BitTorrent,
like couldn't have invented anything else.
And then he invented Chia.
And then he invented chia.
So that's why we're here.
Most people will be here for that reason.
Most people will be here for that reason.
When it launched, they said that they were going to launch it.
It would be programmable money, blah, blah, blah.
And there'd be a pre-farm which they could make money off.
They could monetize it as soon as they went public.
But it wouldn't be touched.
It would be Bitcoin, too.
The farmers would set the price.
Gene's own quotation was that.
And over time, major red flags, major red flags, major red flags. I've said that three times.
If Lurkey likes major red flags, being the revolutionary, beautiful,
box-and-breasted social media app that it is should be right at the top because Chia's price is plummeting.
Chia's price is red.
Chia's price is burning, and it's only going to get worse.
There are major red flags,
and they're hard to ignore when you see them.
Okay, so first of all, what are the major red flags?
The grant program.
It makes absolutely no sense, absolutely no sense whatsoever
to launch a blockchain without a grant program.
That would be absolute madness.
I hope that this is recording.
Now I'm thinking about it, I probably should say on the computer
just because I could talk for 30 minutes
and maybe for some reason the mobile phone is not going through.
Let me think about this.
I've not really got a way of testing it.
I think it's playing through my PC.
But that doesn't necessarily
let me just test it again yes so it probably is recording but sounds coming out i guess my voice
is coming through the space i hope it's being recorded into the thing because on my pc it's
like shows a the red not recording thing but i'm recording through my phone and it did work in the
past about a year ago,
but I've not tested it for a year.
So I don't want to say something important and then it gets cut off.
So I should probably switch to the PC anyway.
I'm going to do it.
It's too important for my own comfort,
just to walk around the room with my phone,
which is slightly more enjoyable,
but it's not about enjoyment. it's about getting the truth out.
So I'll switch to the PC. Okay, I'm back.
So having no grant program for a blockchain is a major red flag. It's not.
No, let me rephrase that.
Having no grant program for a blockchain is madness.
The major red flag is they've got a fake grants program.
So the fake grants program is no grants they've got a fake grants program. So the fake grants program
is no grants program pretending to be a grants program. That is different. So it'd be a terrible,
terrible idea to have no grant program for a new blockchain that's trying to compete with
Ethereum and Bitcoin. It would be an absolutely terrible idea to have no grant program with a blockchain
trying to compete with Bitcoin or Ethereum. It would be an absolutely fucking terrible decision
to have no grants program. But somehow, somehow, here has gone even worse and done the one thing even multiple times more toxic than having no grants program, but to have a fake grants program to set people
to basically bottleneck people psychologically. So it's like, imagine a primary school launching
on the first day. Primary means like age six to 11. So like your first school, or at least it was
my first school. I think I actually went to a nursery school before so it wasn't well i guess it i was gonna say it wasn't called a school but it was called
a nursery school so i guess it is but it felt like nursery school when i was young was like an extra
thing you probably did but not necessarily but school was like legal illegal if you didn't go or
uh you should send your children to like at least primary school age six in England.
So that was my first, well, second school, but first sort of official big school.
And now imagine if you walked into the playground on the first day when your children were going
to school and there was no school building there.
building there. What is going on? You've got a school building in a primary school before
What is going on?
the first day. Right. That would be terrible. Things would just about work out because people
would scatter around the no building primary school and I suppose the teachers would make
do. Everyone round up.
Just to let you know, this is the school, the primary school
with no building.
We're in the world records for that.
It's the only school with no building.
But we'll figure it out.
We're going to call your names out and put you out.
Cassandra, Billy, Bob, you go over there in the corner
by the pitch.
There's no building, but it's open air.
But we'll bring some umbrellas and everyone else, you know, Robert, Al and Sharon, you go over there where the car park is.
Just stay inside the thing. Don't go out the thing. Stay outside. Just stay off the road. Stay in the thing.
So you could make do with a playground with no
building at a school, teach children. It may even work out better, and probably it would.
If you were the one school that had no building, you had to study everything outside.
On some level, I think it would make you stronger. You may not have all the skills, for example,
it might be hard to write things or do artwork that doesn't blow
away but somehow it would work you'd have a school conceptually and everyone is in a building
no sorry they're not in a building they're conceptually in a psychological prison
a bit like what Wes Killsmile did to me with this MK Ultras type stuff trying to build mine prisons
for people and put them
in them, like planning it.
But ultimately, you've got a playground with no buildings in this example.
It would work.
It would work.
The only thing more mad than having no primary school building would be to have a fake primary
school building in an empty primary school with when
parents got there they'd see the fake building leave their kids there and the kids would sort
of look in they'd be on their own i guess and the buildings it'd be like a potemkin village
a potemkin village that's where they would build a fake village to distract an army
for example in i think it was in russia or somewhere like that and so they would build a fake village to distract an army. For example, I think it was in Russia or somewhere like that.
And so they'd build fake, or it may have even been France,
or all different places, a P-O-T-E-M-K-I-N.
P-O-T-E-M, M for mother, K-I-N for Norman.
Potemkin village.
Potemkin village is a pretend village that looks like a village but isn't one.
So behind the wall at the front there might be nothing whatsoever. Now if you had a primary school
and a fake building in a primary school ground that is absolutely a red flag.
Like if my parent, if I was a parent, took my child to the school, I hadn't been there before.
Silly example, but let's just say first day, I will not leave my child there. Why? Because there
is an empty playground or an empty area with no building, but a fake building. Red flag.
Chia has somehow got a fake grants program. It's one thing to launch a blockchain
with no grants program to help with anything,
whether $5, $10, or as I said,
was needed $1,000 here and there, that's not a lot.
It's an annoyingly small amount of money.
I keep saying as the, basically the media visionary
in a sense is we only need $50 here, $1,000 there.
They're selling the pre-farm for loads, and they still won't fund a grants program.
But having no grants program is not just ridiculous for a blockchain,
but to have a fake grants program is absolutely disruptive. You'll never, you miss out on the organic primary school with
no building and everyone, but people make do and you become stronger because you're weathered and
you study outside and new systems form. You know, parents will perhaps hold the umbrellas for the
the children maybe it will create tighter community bond by having no building for a primary school
children. Maybe it will create a tighter community bond by having no building for a primary school,
but to have a fake building in the grounds nothing can happen no one will get educated
it'll inevitably it'll get torn down it'll trend worldwide and it'll be like why is there a fake
building there and the same thing with chia i know because i never actually applied for one.
I want to be very clear, but I did follow the CHIA grants program quite closely.
I emailed it, I contacted it, and what happened was very suspicious.
I came to the conclusion it's a fake grants program.
There never was a grants program, but they lied and said there was.
That is a major red flag.
Now, there's a caveat. Some
people have been paid by the quote unquote grants program. And so I'm not saying money has not been
given. It has. So if your grants program is anything that gives money to something even once,
even $5, then yes, it has technically been a grants program. But two or three people getting a few thousand dollars
or 10,000, let's say,
or even if one project got 100,000 once,
that is not adequate in a decentralized ecosystem
for five years of the community breaking world record
after world record after world record of spaces.
I put Charles Hoskinson in the room with Bram Cohen.
I introduced Charles Hoskinson to Bram Cohen, Gene Hoffman.
I know you're listening to this.
Listen to my voice.
You get Marc Andreessen for me or I'm going to do you dirty.
You know I'm telling you the truth.
Listen to me and heed my warning, man.
This is almost your last chance, Gene.
You're trapped.
You're in the PayPal mafia and above you, they're trafficking and torturing children.
It does not look good for you.
You should talk to me, Gene, because I've treated you like a gentleman so far.
But at some point, the respect is gone and no more.
And this is that no more moment, Gene Hoffman.
And your CIA people, Andresen, Teal, literal Satanists.
There is a fake grants program in Chia.
So it's still there.
It's still there. It's what 2026, five years later, Chia is Bitcoin too. Chia is Bitcoin too. The head programmer is the greatest technician of coding ever in history.
funding and well I shouldn't say without funding maybe he did without because you need supporting
but without trying to monetize it BitTorrent went viral and then whoever invented Bitcoin Mr. Nakamoto
I don't again I don't know if they had funding perhaps a bit here and there but without funding
Bitcoin went viral and essentially has changed the world. Fast forward to Chia,
which appears to be Bitcoin 2, a new Nakamoto consensus. And you've got the only coin ever
to only go down in price from day one, $1,500, $2,000. And it goes up and down sometimes. I'm
not saying only down because that'd be impossible
like it goes up three percent down five up two down ten that kind of thing a general trend down
from day one it cheers the only one to ever do it somehow bit torrent and bitcoin's model which
goes viral immediately has been replaced with a model that people only leave it and the price only goes down.
So what happens when the price only goes down? It drives projects away. It breaks people financially. It puts people into food banks who previously wanted to change the world. It stops
projects. It breaks communities. It's a primary school with no building but a fake building to trick people psychologically.
So major red flag one is Chia has no grants program, but primarily it has a fake grants
program.
That's minus one.
It's inversion.
So you're telling me that the greatest network protocols engineer in history sat down with
someone who's meant to have invented the iPhone.
So he lied about, I don't think Gene did invent the iPhone, but I think that his family probably
told him it would be his role to pretend to. And so let's take a photo. It could be wrong.
Also, you could scribble on a piece of paper. I'll do that now. Okay. There's a rectangle.
I'll put two circles there. Up and down arrow.
There's my, done.
There's my model for an iPhone.
Technically, if they used my one second design,
that's technically designing the iPod because everyone can claim credit for it.
As long as you technically did it on paper.
And that's even if you're not lying.
Are you telling me that the greatest network
protocols engineer ever
gets together with the inventor of the iPhone
and they think that it's wise
to have a fake grants program that doesn't
give any money out to the community for five years?
No way,
Jose.
Not going to trick Edward Luce.
I'm the Luce Cannon,
and you're hearing that today, Gene Hoffman.
Please heed my warning. I've the loose cannon. And you're hearing that today, Gene Hoffman. Please heed my warning.
I've been kind to you. You've censored and blocked me left, right and center. You're working for a secret society. You're in the CIA. You were behind September the 11th. You should
just be hoping people don't make more and more references to that account that you set up six days before September the 11th, 2001.
In my opinion, you were put in place to brainwash Silicon Valley people
so that they'd go along with that atrocity in Afghanistan.
And you'll do the same thing again, Mr. Gene Hoffman,
when World War III starts, won't you?
And you're trying to drag people along until that happens with Permuto Capital.
Mind control operation from the MKUltra programmers that you are working for, Mr. Hoffman.
I'm sorry to say it, but it's true.
And someone needs to say it.
And with that, I'm going to go and have a sip of my coffee.
What other medium in the world is like live spaces?
Right here, right now?
Be back in a second.
Bye. There is a good side to this all though.
I think it's likely the community launch of Bitcoin 2 from day one again.
I think that we'll end up with two chains at the end of this, the sort of CIA
version Chia, the co-opted one with a fake grants program. Then there'll be a Bitcoin
2 that the community runs. You don't want digital gold talk putting his money into Chia.
Put it into Bitcoin 2 digital gold talk. Un Bitcoin 2's ecosystem and start again.
Let TengTorpe Wireless have a fresh start with a token that goes up in price.
Sometimes you can't build software if the price of the underlying asset
only goes down in price.
You just can't do it.
You can't bring influencers in.
You can't, there's no reason to do it.
It's too risky.
It's bad enough when you only earn dollars.
Like what if I don't make enough money this month?
But what if you can make it up, but it's only likely to keep going down in price?
Like you just, it just doesn't make sense.
If you build, if you're building a beautiful, elaborate castle on quicksand to live in like a giant full-size castle you wouldn't build it on
the beach you'd build it on limestone or something flat unless you wanted it to collapse quickly so
chia's got a fake grounds for and that's a major red flag i say launch bitcoin too turn it over to
the community to bitcoin.org i own the website i own thebitcoin.org. I own the website.
I own the 2bitcoin.org website.
I think we should start again from day one.
And imagine a 24-hour space about Bitcoin too,
and there'll be no more pre-farm sales because there won't be a pre-farm.
I know that that word makes you hard, Gene.
Pre-farm.
Mind control, as I call it.
Mind control.
How can we make people want
for the price to keep going down forever
and blame themselves?
You didn't release enough.
You didn't host enough spaces, guys.
Gooey, you didn't host enough.
You only hosted four world records.
It wasn't enough.
You needed to do more.
It's your fault. The price of chia to do more. It's your fault.
The price of cheers go down, it's your fault.
That's what they're doing.
It's mind control.
It's like the dog and the, what was it?
Dog and the bell, Pavlovian conditioning.
So the good side of what I've just said
in the previous 30 minutes, some of it,
which will shock the core of your spine, some of the words I said about certain people in this ecosystem, I think it all leads to Bitcoin too.
So it's actually a good thing.
I hope I don't sound like a downer because when I got into China, I really wanted to just bring positive energy.
downer because I, when I got into T3, I really wanted to just bring positive energy, but I try
and balance the, okay, there's a little bit of bad news maybe with, but the good news is even better.
And I think a Bitcoin 2 that launches from day one with no pre-farm, boom. Now, what is more
likely to sell a software project? The LimeTorpe wireless on Bitcoin 2 or the LimeTalk, sorry, I said that wrong.
The TangTalk wireless on Bitcoin 2 or the TangTalk or LimeTalk application on Chia.
It's a no-brainer.
Hey, sexy girl, have you heard of Chia or Bitcoin?
Like every girl with different size breasts will say bitcoin so if you're releasing
software on bitcoin 2 psychologically you've got a thousand decks as a uh branding tool and the
beautiful thing everyone can use it so there'll be no uh sorry i don't quite like the fact you
use that logo on your project you ain't using that Bitcoin 2 logo. No, no, no. We're encouraging
it. Put it on the big breasts and the different shape breasts and just let's have the Bitcoin
2 logo everywhere. Project it as holograms. Put it on t-shirts. Make money from it. Sell
it with logos. Bitcoin 2. Bitcoin 1 is gold. Bitcoin 2 is a new media. It's the voice layer. It's the meeting in public layer. It's the sex, drugs, and rock and, too. It's a new media. It's the voice layer.
It's the meeting in public layer.
It's the sex, drugs, and rock and roll layer.
It's fucking Bitcoin, too.
And it does have a secret society manipulating the community with a pre-farm that is paying the salary of already rich people for no reason.
I'm here.
I'm not earning anything.
Not that you should, necessarily. It's actually often better to work on things without income. So I'm not saying that that's the line, but at the
same time, there are people being paid for my hard work that are already rich and Gene's got $400,000
a year salary after a pay cut. This is madness. People are going to food banks and people are
struggling and rich people
are taking massive. He's not put anything in the community. He's barely put $10 of his own money in
it. It's not hard to see it. I've seen people like people have donated me thousands. Well,
thousands of dollars, basically twice. One person wants to be anonymous. The other was Michael Taylor.
So Michael Taylor sent me $3,000.
Gene Hoffman's not sent me a packet of crisps.
And he's earning a $400,000 salary from people's parents buying things because he overpromoted permuto capital.
Not going to work with me, Jack.
I'm calling you out.
You're manipulating people to get their families to throw money into something that pays your
salary when you're already rich.
You're already linked to the Illuminati.
You're already a CIA PSYOP.
You're already doing that.
And you're going to bankrupt people before World War III, which you know is coming because
your family and your handlers are the ones that are planning it.
Now, they're quite high stakes, Gene.
So I suggest you bring your little PayPal mafia to the party and you bring them to the spaces.
Because we all know that these are becoming legal trials.
So the sooner that you do it, the nicer I'm going to be to you, Gene.
And you haven't exactly been that nice to me.
You censored me, Gene.
Could you do that?
Three world records and you censored me, Gene Hoffman.
You did that and you know it, you son of a bitch.
I could almost get emotional.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
I want to stop World War III.
That's why I'm doing this.
If I could send Chia to a million dollars and not stop World War III, I wouldn't.
I'd send Chia to zero and stop World War III if necessary.
But hopefully, Bitcoin II can stop World War III and it can go up in price.
And there can be Chia
and Bitcoin 2 because two chains, that's kind of cool.
I'd certainly be pro-Chia as well as pro-Bitcoin 2.
I'm certainly pro-Ethereum.
I'm pro-Charles.
I'm pro-Cardano.
I'm pro all of them.
But there isn't a layer of a blockchain that can do what needs to be done apart from Chia.
And it's now toxic.
So major red flag one is a fake grants program.
No grants program is bad enough.
But a fake grants program is a fake Potemkin Village primary school.
And that it should set warning signs off.
The second red flag, I just had it in my mind
and then i forgot it let me just have a sip of this coffee
i can't remember the second i It'll come back to me, but I can't remember exactly what I was just going to.
What was I just saying?
Potemkin Village, Primary School.
I'll get back to it.
There's two or three. No, there's about three red flags. I'll stumble
to it. So the over censorship is a red flag. The lack of responding to things, lack of answering questions,
is hinting at a red flag.
It's not on itself a red flag because some people just don't like talking in spaces.
Gene's been a very good spaces guest for a long time,
is happy to be the star, is happy to, as he's always said,
fans, I was never a fan, Gene.
That was, you should never have said that you've got people
who want to change the world stop world war three and you're going to think that because i'm hosting
a space view i'm your fan no i'm not your fan gene i'm not bram's fan i actually kind of am
i do really think bram is cool he's a really cool guy but i won't call myself a fan i'm not in cheer
because of bram i'm in it because the technology's meant to be the best in the world. And it is cool that you can chat to the creators,
and Gene has been in spaces, so kudos to him. But I'm seeing a tendency for him to veer towards
unrecorded non-spaces, controlled environments. That's a slight warning sign. It's not quite a red flag, I'd say,
but there's a tendency to sort of want to say less and less publicly. And that's
in indirect proportion to the more I've spoken about CIA links and manipulation. Anyway,
I think that the pre-farm is designed to use it to crash the
price of chia to break everyone in it i think it's that malicious now it's gene earns 400 000 a year
but he made his money from edgar brontman apparently he said ed Bronfman, the child trafficker, was instrumental in him selling
EMG music.
And in fact, the E-Music share price went down from about, was it $20 or $100 down to
about 0.01 from the moment Gene came in to the time he left the company.
It was sold off in a fire sale.
I'd say that Gene Hoffman deliberately crashed the music share price, yet takes the credit
for inventing the iPod.
I'm seeing lies.
So I think a second red flag for me is I've seen consistent lies from Gene.
Lies, lies, lies, lies, lies linked to being less and less willing to talk in spaces.
That is a red flag.
To me, if people lie, why?
I've slept with about 80 women, just say it.
Don't say I've slept with a thousand,
because it's like, well, I've really slept with 80.
Well, why did you lie?
Just say 80, it was impressive.
Right?
So it's tell the truth and then say in spaces so if people lie
and talk less in spaces then i feel that i'm witnessing something in the way of uh a certain
behavior that suggests guilt and being scared to put one's voice on record could be wrong
but if we have bitcoin too this isn't even a question.
It's just release it.
Who runs the 2bitcoin.org website?
The community, the Chia community.
Easy.
Who in the Chia community can run the Bitcoin 2 website?
It could be a group.
It could be a team.
It could be everyone. It could be a new system.
You could have an NFT system system to control bitcoin to his
home page maybe certain nfts you update or you link a file and sign an nft and it puts like
great wall of chia style thing and you control say 10 of the website and you can't be censored
so there's maybe a way to do it with no censorship but there's only one chance to do it first
so a bitcoin 2 website to twobitcoin.org,
which I already own and have updated,
launched it on January the 2nd, a week ago today.
Of course, the number two is,
I'm gonna get into the Bitcoin two branding.
The simplicity of using the number two for your branding,
I think it's the best idea I've ever come up with.
And I once had the idea of sleeping
with two women at once together and but i still think using the number two perfect number for
that as well would be the best branding ever psychologically and i'm going to get into that
i want to run finish running through the red flags because there was a couple i've thought
of this for quite a long time so i haven't forgot forgotten it but I will need to get back into the flow is a
fake grants program that was my fur this is chronologically so as soon as I
witnessed the fake grants program a few years ago I knew we had problems it's
one thing to not have a grant right that's a terrible idea no grants program for a blockchain within like you've got people from nigeria trying to work with
people from let's say canada working with people from ireland okay just build something no no no
you've got to have some money here and there to sort of oh i've got a thousand dollars here like
would anyone like to do a piece of art? Here's $200.
Would anyone like to do this bit of coding?
It's like $400.
Within a week, you've got a new project.
Three people in the community.
$1,000 is not much.
Gene earns $400,000 a year from the pre-farm.
He's being paid from the farmers.
Yeah, he's already got a boat from Edgar Bronfman.
Because he's like the farmers. Yeah, he's already got a boat from Edgar Bronfman, because like Whitney Webb said, Edgar Bronfman is one of the child traffickers for the Rothschilds.
So, I mean, it doesn't look pretty, and I still think it's in your best interest, Gene,
to come and talk, even if it's not easy, because you get the sympathy of me, and I'll take
care of you, Jean, I promise.
I've not left anyone dry, high and dry in this community.
And I want to take care of you as well because I think you're part of the
Chia community.
But if you keep with the lies, my sympathy just gets less and less over time.
over time so so the second one is gene lying and then talking less
it's it may stop short of being a red flag and more of a something to consider that one
but anyway i need some more marijuana so i'll be back in a second. which
is It's my style. Thank you. Can you imagine a Bitcoin to launch?
I think the Star Wars theme in 1977 or whenever the first one came out, it'll be that level,
but bigger.
Because unlike Chia, you promote Bitcoin too before it launches so that everyone has a
chance of mining.
Mining, you see the mine control.
mine control. So the language of Chia is very suspicious. You could call it mining and Bitcoin
So the language of Chia is very suspicious.
too, but you're going to call it farming and Chia. Hmm. That's a bit strange. I'll be back in a second. Thank you. I struggle with the technical problem I've talked about in previous spaces where my morning,
beautiful morning hot coffee is right in the face of the air conditioning unit, which I
need to be switched on at least a little bit.
Otherwise, it's just slightly too hot.
It's blowing on the coffee on my table.
And if I don't have it on the table, I have to walk over to the kitchen.
And if I do that, I have to take my headphones set off and say, I'll be back in 60 seconds.
That's the thing.
Space is hosting is great, but the coffee routine is not quite the same.
But even still,
Bitcoin 2 Lurkey.
Imagine Bitcoin 2 launch Lurkey
where there's Bitcoin 2 logos on every chest
everywhere in the world,
whether you're man, woman, or ladyboy.
Like the Bitcoin 2 logo on people's chest
would be good in any situation on t-shirts.
Sell t-shirts with a Bitcoin2 logo on it
and make a fortune off it.
Nothing can stop you because it's open source software.
I think the greatest thing Satoshi did
was leaving the Bitcoin name.
I think that's the magic and the way out of this maze
is a shared word everyone relates to and i think that
word is bitcoin too it doesn't replace chia it will probably cause the price of chia to go down
although strangely it could also go up a lot because if people hear bitcoin to a level what
is it oh it's the fake chia right the second chia then people might actually just start
buying chia but the best thing chia could do is rename itself bitcoin 2 now like tomorrow morning
well basically this morning in thailand or this evening in u.s gene's like oh fuck it i'll do it
okay we're officially changing the name of chia to bitcoin to Bitcoin 2. For attention, that's the best thing you can do.
Chia is a name that puts you in a mine prison
and no one knows what it means.
Farming is a lonely thing you do on your own
and most people don't want to be farmers
and it's separate from other people
and you're cutting bits of grass off the floor.
Mining is you're plucking out digital gems
and rubies and sapphires from a fair system
that's egalitarian and people love and you're part of a community that's what mining is so
imagine the the push when the mining two number two because it's the second consensus mining
mechanism bitcoin two nakamoto two the chain is there, the lineage is there.
Terminator one, boom.
Terminator two, boom.
Well, how do I know that the James Cameron
Terminator sequel was the real sequel?
Well, it's the same company or whatever, the same people.
And then you've got the same director or the new director
and the same actor, Schwarzenegger.
Bitcoin two is the same cast or the new director and the same actor, Schwarzenegger. Bitcoin too is the same cast as Bitcoin once the, uh,
the brand value comes with you.
So I guess I'm sort of bearing onto why Bitcoin,
why the number two is great in branding.
I'll come back to overriding thoughts of conspiracy in a second,
a little bit of the solution here.
The number two is a very easy psychological number to use in any software every software has got a
one in it so the number zero is arguably not a number so one is the first number for sure in
humanity zero is not a number zero if zero is a number, it's like the infinitely last number.
So one is your first number. That's human psychology. Chinese, English, Indian,
Western, Eastern, every human, every alien race will get the concept of one, even if it,
but maybe it's a different symbol for an alien race.
maybe it's a different symbol for an alien race. But if you were raising a finger,
But if you were raising a finger, you'd raise one finger.
It's such a consistent symbol, the number one.
So one is crucial to coding.
With the number one comes the number two.
It's the easiest psychological step you can ever take
from the most common, intelligent life form symbol.
If it's not one, it's more than one.
So number two, three, four, three to infinity
is in a separate category to one, in a sense.
There's one is the number one,
and two to infinity is everything else, including zero.
But if not one, not everything in the world
can run with one. For example,
a threesome. So with the number two, you've got the best number apart from one. So the
best number apart from one is two. If anyone disagrees with that, some would say 69, 42,
1,100, 10. But I personally would choose two.
The number two is the best number apart from one.
Four is a good one too because it's two squared.
So you can get back to two with it.
But two is good.
Two is great, actually. Two is brilliant.
Two is the best number apart from one.
So imagine Bitcoin 2 launching with all the
influencers of the world hearing about it they'll be like oh i sent a shiver down my side bitcoin
2 what surely not well yours truly the one and only has the 2bitcoin.org website mr hoffman mr andres and mr teal did you underestimate edward
loose i hope you didn't because you left a little naming attack in your little blockchain coup cia
nsa basically satanic cult run little takeover operation of bitcoin too
cult run little takeover operation of bitcoin 2 you left the 2bitcoin.org website up
because though bitcoin2.org was gone with the branding of the number two
being the best number apart from one 2bitcoin.org is the best site in my opinion so 2bitcoin.org
the best site in my opinion.
So 2bitcoin.org becomes the homepage for Bitcoin to start with.
It'll be the blockchain, of course, once it's launched,
but 2bitcoin.org was available, so I picked it up.
I saw problems over a year, probably, when the pre-farm?
Ah, okay, the second red flag, of course.
And perfect, the number two.
So here is the branding of two.
So every time the number two appears in any form,
even if it's the second idea for an NFT project,
even if it's the second person to speak in a space,
the branding of the number two in Bitcoin too can have a big effect.
So the second red flag,
Achia, was selling the pre-farm that. So the fake grants program was the first red flag for me chronologically as the spaces host,
who's hosted four years of spaces. And the second red flag was selling the pre-farm. Why?
was selling the pre-farm.
Why?
Gene said they wouldn't sell it.
He said, I think his exact words were something like,
we're probably not going to do anything with the pre-farm.
So even if he thought they were,
and he was leaving a little open door there,
and he was always planning to sell it, that's deceptive.
Even if he was exaggerating, saying that they wouldn't sell
the pre-farm or even suggesting they wouldn't sell
the pre-farm, but technically not 100% saying it is deceptive.
And it suggests they were always gonna sell the pre-farm.
They, meaning Gene and his cronies, not Bram.
Bram is completely clear in all this.
I've seen Bram do nothing wrong.
If what I'm saying is right, he's in an unfortunate situation.
He's being tricked, possibly,
or possibly he's just being forced to go along with it.
And I wouldn't blame him if any of those things are the case.
But Gene said they wouldn't sell the pre-farm. The pre-farm would be used for loaning,
i.e. it was strongly hinted that if you're in the Chia community,
when they go public, that pre-farm would be distributed to farmers
or given to projects or loaned to people to
make money so that Chia company could then fund the blockchain, which means people in
the Chia community.
Because if we're not trying to fund people in the Chia community, we're trying to not
fund anything whatsoever to do with Chia in the world.
That surely can't be the case.
But in reality, actually, that does look like the case to me,
but in reality, if we're following the narrative,
then the pre-farm was never meant to be sold.
It was meant to be loaned to make money from it
because it's Bitcoin too.
And then that money would basically be used
for the community one way or another.
But that has now five years later, five years later now from when that was recorded on record.
Gene said they probably wouldn't sell it.
Bram said we definitely wouldn't sell it.
In fact, it's probably a good time to play the clip because it's one thing to take someone's word from it I suppose but it's another thing to hear the actual original so I'll get the original
up I'll play it and it can act as legal evidence it was in the Chia business
white paper paper. Zoom. So I think it's on YouTube, this one. So we go back and check it.
So we're looking at February the 11th, 2021.
Let me just play this clip.
It's about a minute and a half.
So this is Mitch Edwards, who went missing almost immediately after this.
I never heard from him again in Chia.
This was the last time he ever spoke on Chia.
He was meant to be the guy that was...
I'm hoping that the sound will come through the speaker here. Give it a shot. the last time he ever spoke on Chia. He was meant to be the guy that was...
I'm hoping that the sound will come through the speaker here. Give it a shot.
The genius of Chia can actually flourish and change the world.
Great. So, a question from the crowd. Can you give us more details on how you plan to use the strategic reserve prior to the IPO?
There's a bit of sticker shock for some on the size.
So the answer to the first part is we probably have not to do anything with the strategic reserve prior to getting an IPO or whatever equipment we do.
We would like to make sure that we have actively embraced the SEC and chosen a path that they think is comfortable for
them.
And then we want to kind of answer that question about exactly how we can use the coins once
we're a public company, because it's just a very different conversation with the SEC
once you're a filed and reporting company.
You know, I understand the thought that it's, quote, a sticker shock. I don't necessarily
see it as much. I certainly think it's different than what other people have done before. But no
one's done this attempt to have a supporting company that's kind of immediately capitalized.
And it's important to know the company's valuation is going to follow the coin price,
not vice versa. I think a lot of folks have a sense that,
you know, some of the stock market will set the coin price.
I think it's going to work almost exactly the opposite way.
And, you know, with farmers being the only people
who get coins in hand other than something they will do,
you guys are going to be the ones to set the price.
You know, it's going to be how hard do you have them.
Yeah, in particular, we're re-emphasizing,
we're not selling, we're not dumping, we're
not doing that.
Yeah.
Is there a question for you guys about ?
We are not selling, and also Gene said we're probably not going to do anything with it,
so if he had any thought whatsoever they were going to use it that's deceptive but i he was trying to say they're not going to use it now fast forward five years
chia's price is like four dollars and people in the ecosystem are basically bankrupt now
farming is paying gene's salary the farmers are now paying his salary. We've gone from, we're probably not
going to do anything with the strategic reserve to the strategic reserve will be used to pay
all of our salaries and every project we fund. So it's not just that Gene is using the pre-farm
to pay his $400,000 a year salary whilst putting almost nothing into the ecosystem at all.
But the pre-farm is now being used to fund projects that he privately owns, like silicon.
Dylan Rose disappeared. He went into the Bermuda Triangle. Dylan Rose faster. As soon as that deal
happened, he was gone from the ecosystem, hasn't spoken in a space since poor dylan rose one of the greatest minds in blockchain a hardware
coder and just see he just where where's dylan rose he's been bought off with the pre-farm so
the pre-farm's being used to pay people off to get them out of the ecosystem as well
it's easy for me to see michael taylor's spoke in a space, doesn't want anything to do with me.
I blame him for some of the things I say in a sense, but it's because of the prefarm.
He's thinking of the money and, well, I don't want to be associated with someone.
So the prefarmers, it's not just like, actually, we will use it.
We'll say we won't sell it and then we will
we're now going to pay all of our salaries four hundred thousand dollars a year thomas chow was
earning eight hundred thousand dollars a year who is who the fuck is thomas chow who is thomas chow
which country is he working for i want to know thomas chowow was the legal counsel for Chia. So millions of dollars a year, the pre-farm is now paying for. And nothing is coming out. So there's no grants program. There's a fake one. And now all of the farming rewards are being squashed in value because they're using the pre-farm to pay for the company
that's not releasing anything, but is just starting new companies that they personally own.
Major red flag. Selling the pre-farm after promising not to, and then all the things
that come with it. Buying silicon, paying people out of the ecosystem, not using the pre-farm to
fund anyone in the ecosystem that's trying to build anything like myself like drac like art with heart like monkey zoo like you can't get anything done you can't
even get money for a website it's so difficult to recommend someone build on cheer with that
being the case it's it's a problem okay I need to top my coffee up. Thank you. This timeout is brought to you by the Chia NFT standard, featuring such great projects
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Lots of negative comments in the last... It feels like people have realized something is wrong.
It feels that Bitcoin 2 was taken over to me by a secret agency
and people like satoshi friends at slezi satoshi s-l-e-z-i s-a-t-o-s-h-i it sounds like he was one
of the early uh farmers or or bought a lot of chia And he's starting to sort of say,
what are we funding?
The price is going down.
So there's almost nothing being released.
And it feels like something's off.
So I've pinned that to the top there Thank you. I've got to say I thought more people would come and talk about politics because of what's
gone on in Minnesota and stuff but I guess people don't like particularly hearing about
this side of stuff so I'll keep running through basically the pros of the number two but also
what I think is going on.
So I think Bitcoin to launch properly.
I think everyone who got into Chia was right and still is right.
But I think the pre-farm is being used to drive the price down deliberately.
And if it is, it was always planned that way.
You can't sort of accidentally start driving the price down.
Imagine earning 400 grand a year as a salary from basically selling the pre-fund when you
promise not to, but you still won't put 100 quid here and there, $100 here and there into
the organic projects or to just help someone or get something going.
There's no funding.
It's craziness.
So I think that it's been co-opted by the intelligence agency that Wes Kuzmal is also
linked to, which links to Silicon Valley.
So you've got Andresen and Teal being linked to it as a major red flag.
So I'm already up to three major red flags, and that is that Teal and Andresen are financial backers.
So who are they?
Who are they?
What do they do?
Will they make decisions?
So if they say, okay, we'll sell the pre-farm to squash the price,
to crush everyone in Bitcoin 2 before World War III,
then they can do it.
Nothing can stop them because they are the funders.
It's their thing.
It's like we're playing in a Bitcoin 2 that's owned and run by Teal and Andresen.
Is there any evidence that they're psychopaths on camera?
Yes. On Joe Rogan,
there's like four hours of them talking that they're madmen. So if I see the cheer price
going down, the only blockchain to only go down in price, world record after world record after
world record of spaces, that's a disconnect. It doesn't make any sense. The minus one is in there.
it doesn't make any sense the minus one is in there it's again and again the number minus one
it doesn't make sense bitcoin bit torrent they scale immediately cheer no one's heard of it after
five years that's it's a red flag teal and andresen are the backers red flag so they are the basically the European slash American slash Illuminati Silicon Valley runners
that run Silicon Valley and they back everything. So if we have a Bitcoin to launch, this is gone.
This is not a risk anymore. It's a shout out in the audience. I'm not saying anyone's name. I
don't want to, I normally would, but because it's a hot topic, I'll be respectful.
So if anyone wants to join, always welcome, of course,
but a shout out to you, kudos, my man.
Two is a very powerful number in branding.
So it becomes again and again, two, two, two, two, two.
And I think Bitcoin two would trend.
And then you've got an interesting dynamic.
You have a backup option.
And it should also cause Chia to change the name of Chia to Bitcoin two.
I would be happy with that.
If they did that, that would suggest they're trying to reach people.
I don't think they're trying to reach people.
I think Permuto Capital is designed only for the people in the chia ecosystem
to keep them thinking that the big payday is coming.
It might actually.
It still could.
Funnier things have happened.
But if there's no pre-farm, it's not an issue.
Every single mojo of mind has got intrinsic mechanical electrical energy attached to it. It was created
from a mathematical algorithm. Not one mojo was, okay, we'll just add a pre-farm in. Okay, so
where does the pre-farm come from? I've got that piece of evidence queued up, Your Honor.
Actually, I don't have it queued up. It's in a folder, kind of ready to play,
but it's over swelling with other files
because I've been building it for so long,
so it's not quite drag and drop,
but I know the keyword to type.
Ah, interesting.
Oh, no, it's because it's in the Chia business
white paper Zoom, not the actual folder.
Gene was very insistent on that. So it's, and I hope that that sound could come through the computer.
Gene's idea was for the pre-farm.
It was Gene's idea.
Now I would say that that is a red flag that may even proceed the fake grants program is
how can one person decide the size of the
pre-farm it like as i think of it as a sort of loosely think of myself as a community builder
might say i'm not that good at it but let's talk about divisive topics but i can't avoid it, but I've lost my train of thought now.
Oh yeah, so the pre-farm is something like,
if I had it in my hand now, like, hey guys,
I'm gonna decide, we're gonna decide
how big the pre-farm is gonna be.
We'll throw it to community.
How big do you think it should be?
Get some thoughts. We think it may be? Get, get some thoughts.
We think it may be 4 million, 7 million, 28 million, but no, that didn't happen.
You didn't use the sort of the value of it.
Give us your thoughts on how big, Gene personally chose the pre-farm size
to be as big as Bitcoin.
to be as big as Bitcoin.
I like from the day one,
they were secretly owning 80 to 99% of the supply
because they're always gonna sell it.
Remember there's a massive difference
to not planning to sell something,
to secretly planning to sell it,
but saying that you're not going to.
That's changing the game.
It's like a game of poker, right?
It's like, okay, I'm going to keep all the chips over here,
the spare ones,
and I'm probably not going to use those spare chips
in the game when you're not looking.
I probably won't.
I won't, basically.
We're categorically not going to use the extra poker chips
in the game that only one person has access to.
Well, if you are planning to do it, that's playing a game of poker with a fake set of
chips that you secretly got in your right hand.
Now, if you're not planning to cheat people, that's different then.
You didn't intend to.
So you sort of morally find, but still, you've got now, you've basically said, okay, sorry
about that
but we're going to use this whole bag of poker chips in this game now but we're just not going
to give you any of it whatsoever so the fact that gene chose the pre-farm size is a red flag so
that's the one two three fourth so the fourth red flag is gene chose the pre-farm. So let me just run through the
red flags. From my point of view, I'm just giving my own chronological opinion. The Bate Grants
program is one. The second major red flag was selling the pre-farm after saying they would not.
The third major red flag is Teal and andresen are financial backers
major red flag and the fourth red flag is gene personally chose the pre-pharm and we know that
because bram said that gene told him to put that much in so there's a psychology in the world
that is not just happy to be rich own a boat boat, get 400,000 a year, you know, be linked to
all these people, rich beyond belief. But I also want to control the entire supply of a Bitcoin
of a Bitcoin to myself. Like most people are dreaming of having one Bitcoin or one cheer
that's worth 10,000. But there's some people in the world
that are like, I want to control the entire
supply of the Bitcoin.
Just put it in there. That is a red
flag. Gene should not
have had that power to tell Bram what to do.
And if Bram was tricked
and went along with it, that's fine.
Arguably not the best decision.
But also, how did Gene have the
power to do that?
It wouldn't make sense.
If you release BitTorrent free
and it trended within months,
any other blockchains that did well,
the strategy is fairly simple.
It's launch the open source software
and let people use it.
Name it correctly and off you go.
But no, we've got a Bitcoin too where Gene personally chose an entire supply of Bitcoin to be in a pre-farm that he also owned that
he said he wasn't going to touch. Probably. The level it's four red flags. I've not finished
by the way. I'm also leaving Gene lying and talking less in spaces out as a red flag because he's not
obliged to talk in spaces.
So I can't say that's a major red flag.
It could be coincidence.
Gene lying a little bit.
Maybe that's just what you have to do in business sometimes.
I wouldn't.
I'd rather just tell the truth, but I'm sort of looking at it from someone else's point of view.
That's not a red flag, but it's evidence.
But four red flags not including that.
And then there's 2bitcoin.org.
24-hour space.
When we've got our, basically, what is the most valuable thing in Chia?
It's the code cave, basically.
It's the lineage of Chia spaces.
It's the spoken voice ecosystem.
It's everyone that ever spoke in a Chia space.
It's Ice Labs.
It's Monkey Zoo.
It's Futuradora.
It's everyone.
That copy and paste into the Bitcoin 2 ecosystem is a fucking strong
core wow wow because sleazy Satoshi or whatever his name is though I do agree with a lot of what
he says a 24-hour Bitcoin 2 space would basically would sort of put him into position because right now he's above us in the sort of
the canon if you like he's a bitcoin uh ethereum influencer and we're in bitcoin too but it's
a major red flag bitcoin too at least four of them so far and i'm an hour and 15 into the space but
sleazy satoshi is basically above us in the media.
If we launch a Bitcoin 2 and we do a 24-hour space, he's way below us.
Because a Bitcoin 2 ecosystem that's based on spaces is incredibly powerful.
Think of a computer game.
I'm thinking of like the Atari 2600.
And after that, maybe the console after the 2600 probably the commodore maybe is a good one commodore amiga is when you'd get a weapon in
a game like that it would be like a charge up power like if you had a three-pronged fork the
middle prong could be like the a red sort of effect or something but it'd be like a laser
in the game is and that would always kill the bad guy or something a spoken voice space that's 24
hours that's linked to bitcoin through launching is as strong a play as basically anyone could make
it's also not something one person could control there There's a beauty to that. The only person who could probably control it is probably Bram. But I don't think
he's the sort of personality that will want to. So that's good. It's not like he berates
people and he talks for 12 hours in a row. No. So a Bitcoin 2 spaces ecosystem will be
very decentralized by nature. and it wouldn't rely
on gene to be the one to keep coming and telling garbled phrases about permuto capital in my
opinion a mind control experiment uh to deprive people of money before world war three as sad as
that might sound but gene's family is trafficking the...
If I'm right, Gene probably doesn't even know about the trafficking, actually.
That's the thing.
I don't think Gene's done anything wrong morally.
I think he's just following orders, which isn't really that good. But I don't think he knows about the way the children are being treated on Epstein Island and stuff.
I just think he's being paid by the people that are doing it.
That's acceptable.
But it's not acceptable if you're aware of it.
I did make Gene aware of it over a year ago in a space called GoldenEye vs. Chess.
And I'm the best at GoldenEye in the world.
And if anyone wants to play edward
loose at golden eye 64 i'll take you on i'm the best in the world and i put a proximity mine in
different places in the media in the global media so every time gene respawns or teal or andres
and respawn they're going to walk into one of my proximity mines i've been laying them for years now about three years because i was following the pre-farm and when it was being
sold i was like something's going on here the the grants program is fake why then when they started
selling the pre-farm i was like i'll i'll figure it out let's start putting proximity mines down so
in the debate i did with gene over a year ago now, Lurkey, I hope you're
listening, GoldenEye 64 World Championships featuring the Bitcoin2 blockchain. I'm calling
it now. Bitcoin2 blockchain sponsors World GoldenEye Championships. This year it's in Toronto. Next
year it's in Bangkok. Then it's in London. Move it around. It's just people playing GoldenEye. It's really a social.
Introduce Bitcoin too to people at the video game circle.
That's what we need.
We need more face-to-face meetups in the world.
We've got to get people meeting face-to-face.
The elite that Gene is working for are planning a World War III where basically in the World War III,
they're going to kill regular people.
That seems to be the plan.
So Gene is probably unaware of this
because I can't think for a second
that he would know of a plan to start a world war
and then play along with it.
That would be unconscionable.
Although he did seem to do that
on September the 6th, 2001
when he mysteriously started a blog a few days before 9-11,
said that we needed to invade and stopped his blog soon after. I would say that's a red flag
for Gene personally being linked to secret societies, not in Chia because that was 20
years ago. But if you're tying gene to secret societies there's a
major red flag there why did gene hoffman's blog start the week before september the 11th 2001
he was told what to do is my opinion it's the most likely outcome or it's the most likely
possibility most likely outcome are spaces like this that become like courts and then people like Gene
and Marc Andreessen and Peter Thiel basically answering questions from the public live to
basically get to the bottom of it.
That would seem like a less invasive kind of questioning strategy than previously available things in the world.
This is far more democratic, so that's where things are going.
Oh, we've got some good news coming. Erg Seferath got some news about programmable cubes coming
soon as well. Hopefully it'll be about that. He says he's coming up. Or he said, I've got some news about programmable cubes coming soon as well. Hopefully it'll be about that. He says he's coming up.
Or he said, I've got some good news for you, Edward.
So that's great.
I'll see what comes.
So if I'm right, minus one is written all over this.
Red flags.
Minus one is the most dangerous number.
If I'm launching Bitcoin too, I'm promoting it for six months.
I'm getting it to every corner of the globe.
I'm immediately dismissing the idea of let's keep it quiet to get the most mining roars.
That doesn't help anyone.
That keeps it centralized.
You want grandma mining Bitcoin 2 on day one so that she gets the most high chance of,
like the most fair chance to mine the first Bitcoin two in history.
Cause this will be like a once in a 20 year event.
This will be terminator two.
This will be the best launch of any software ever in history.
And it's going to be Bitcoin two,
which is the only name and project that could stand any chance of being better
than Bitcoin 1,
or Bitcoin as it was called.
Terminator 1 wasn't called Terminator 1.
It was called Terminator 1 in hindsight, or it was just called Terminator.
So Bitcoin retains its name, but it's Bitcoin 1.
Bitcoin 2 is the only chance to do it better than the anonymous Koshi, and that is to reach all four corners of the globe before it launches,
that everyone has an equal chance
to get the early mojos and Bitcoin too.
With no pre-farm whatsoever,
the revolution will be free.
The key line, the revolution will be free.
yeah my coffee is suffering from the air conditioning how dare you be positioned there
mr air conditioning unit you will come to a space and answer for why you are so cold in the morning
hey chill out.
The only thing better I think than a Bitcoin 2 launching would be Bitcoin 2 versus something.
So the only thing better than Coke, although I'd say it's poisonous sugar water, but from
marketing point of view, the only thing better than Coke is Coke versus Pepsi.
And you could do Coke versus Pepsi versus Virgin Cola,
arguably islands for child trafficking.
It could be a different form of Cola, Est, in Thailand,
but it's Pepsi versus Cola.
So you really, for the perfect marketing,
you want Bitcoin 2 versus something.
There are logical examples on the table right away.
Bitcoin 2 versus Ethereum.
Bitcoin 2 versus Bitcoin.
Bitcoin 2 versus Cardano.
These kind of things.
But really, it's not versus.
It would be dishonest to suggest that Bitcoin 2 is trying to compete with Bitcoin.
It actually wouldn't be.
You'd actually be trying to raise awareness of Bitcoin 1 and get more people buying it.
It wouldn't be a competition here.
So that doesn't really work.
And so I think the most likely thing is what it actually is in actuality, which is Bitcoin 2 versus World War 3.
in actuality, which is Bitcoin 2 versus World War 3.
If there's no World War 3, my mission is complete.
That's what I'm trying to stop, is to stop people from psychologically thinking that
World War 3 is going to happen.
It's to understand that they have planned it 100 years ago before world war one and two so they
will go through with it if they can if you have a plan to do something and you say you're going to
do it and then you do two-thirds of it you're going to finish it if you can especially if your
survival hinges on doing the third part you're going to try so they are definitely gonna do world war three it started by the way in 2020 but as the narrative the official law it hasn't officially started but they're now ramping
it up with the trump uh taking maduro i would say that maduro is an actor it's confusing to see it
if you're not seeing the world this way but I think all the world leaders are in a secret society and they're acting kayfabe on camera.
So Trump didn't actually abduct Maduro in the way it's being represented, I think.
But even if he did, even if they're not acting and playing along, there's still going to be a world war.
Whether Gene lied or sort of was dishonest deceptively, then that's different matter.
The intent is key.
So either way, Trump psychologically is trying to start the war or he's trying to do something.
It's going to end up with China versus America.
And people aren't going to realize that one family owns all the media in China and America.
And it can be stopped World War III by making people aware of that.
So if I achieve my goal of stopping World War III,
that's good for me.
Like, wet off my brow.
Good, now I can get back to promoting
the Bitcoin II or Chia ecosystem.
But I think in actuality,
it is going to come down to Bitcoin 2 versus World War 3.
I actually do think that if Bitcoin 2 is not successful,
or let me say that differently,
if Bitcoin 2 does not launch,
it's definitely going to be successful if it launches.
Definitely.
So if Bitcoin 2 doesn't launch
the chance of world war 3 starting and basically killing lots of people probably 80 percent 80
percent 80 80 of the world's population by 2030 will be killed in world War III. That's about four years away.
With that, the odds of that to go down to, let's say, close to zero,
Bitcoin 2 needs to launch.
And it's gonna psychologically come down
to Bitcoin 2 versus World War III.
Whether that's what people go along with
in the narrative is different.
It might be a bit too much to swallow.
But what's going on behind
the scenes is going to be that psychologically. Whether people admit it or not, that's what's
going on. Like the parents can shield the children's ears from the sounds of what's
happening coming up outside. They can tell fibs. but ultimately the parents know that there's like men coming down the streets with guns.
And that's basically it.
It's going to be Bitcoin 2 versus World War 3.
And I think Bitcoin 2 has to launch to stop World War 3 happening.
These are the highest of stakes.
And I'm proud to be a part of it.
So shout out everyone in the room.
I'm not going to give anyone a shout out just because it's a bit controversial.
You may not want, oh, my name was mentioned on Lurkey.
So out of respect for this space, I won't shout people's name out.
But thanks for coming on.
for coming on. Open mic though, if anyone wants to chat and I think you can just sort
Open mic, though, if anyone wants to chat.
And I think you can just sort of teleport into the room.
of teleport into the room. Okay. So I think that the, I talked about this in the last
Bitcoin two space where that was, what was it? The 24 hour space that I did before Christmas
or was it after Christmas before new year? It was the 27th. I talked for about four hours
about Bitcoin 2 there
uh i lost my train of thought there oh the the permanent name system that's it
the checkmate move for bitcoin 2 would be a permanent name system pns as it's currently
P-E-N-S, as it's currently called.
The P-N-S name, by the way, was, I think it works because I didn't realize it had a sexual connotation at first,
until one of the Chia community, Josh Painter, he pointed out that it sounds like P-E-N-I-S,
and I actually didn't realize that.
And I actually didn't realize that.
Firstly, I was thinking permanent name system, perfect name system, perfect name system, permanent name system, public naming service, public naming system, permanent name service, public name service.
They were the sort of phrases that just were in my head for I was thinking for a long time, what should it be called?
And it was permanent.
Permanent has to be in there. Name has to be in there. my head for i was thinking for a long time what should it be called and it was permanent permanent
has to be in there name has to be in there and it's like ethereum was ens ens and that sounds
quite good so i was like ethereum name service permanent name service public name service perfect
name service that was my thinking and then josh painted point josh
painted out that's one of those old uh like a nursery josh painter picked a set of pickle
bitcoin two names and he was like penis or whatever that's like oh shit perfect because
it's organically sounds like, but it wasn't intended.
So, like, it's... Like, I don't think you should do it if it...
Like, if you came up with the idea of penis names and then said it,
that would not be right because it's sort of a...
It just doesn't work organically.
The lineage is not there, but this works well.
So I think P&S should be the name of the system.
But it should be a permanent name service that I think PNS should be the name of the system,
but it should be a permanent name service
that I think Team Satoshi could set up.
So I'm calling for the formation of a Team Satoshi
to oversee the launch of Bitcoin 2.
I'm calling for the launch of Team Satoshi or the formation of Team Satoshi to oversee
the launch of Bitcoin 2.
And once it's launched, they should work in a team to get permanent name system ready.
And if we put a permanent name system out for anyone in the
world to buy names permanently as nfts i think you've got mass adoption on day one
so getting a billion users might be as simple and i'm sure it won't be simple, simple. It will be a lot of work to do it.
But if we can launch Bitcoin 2, we the world there,
not talking for anyone specifically,
anyone that wants to do it, we the world. If we can launch Bitcoin 2 and put a permanent name system out
that's owned by NFTs,
and if you make that one mojo per name,
the lowest unit possible, you create a mojo,
you create a massive mojo market
in the most valuable thing ever, and that's human words.
And I think that brings a billion users very quickly,
not on day one, a billion users,
but it brings mainstream adoption on day one,
because what you're telling me
that i can win some bitcoin 2 and buy some one mojo names whoa what is the bitcoin name service
well is it on bitcoin what's on bitcoin 2 what's bitcoin 2 what's the sequel to bitcoin well how do
i get it oh well you run a piece of What, so I don't have to buy it.
I thought you have to buy Bitcoin.
No, no, you run the software.
It's, well, how much is that?
It's free.
What?
How do I do it?
Everyone will be like running around.
It'll be the biggest trend ever is my guess
because the Bitcoin website is bitcoin.org.
The most logical substitute for the,
sorry, the most logical sequel for bitcoin.org is bitcoin2.org, which wasn't available,
but 2bitcoin.org was,
which puts more emphasis on the number two as the branding.
So the number two branding comes back again and again
and again and again and again and again and again and
again and again and again and again. So there's another nursery rhyme. So the number two is such
a beautiful number. It's the second best number ever and it always will. So psychologically
humans understand two points is a simple networking concept. If two people have a link,
it's two. It's the first link in a network is the number two, right?
One person is a node, two is a link.
And these links are the basis of networking and network effects.
So Bitcoin 2 launches 24 hour Bitcoin 2 network,
a permanent name service on Bitcoin. is 24 hour Bitcoin to network,
a permanent name service on Bitcoin. Of course, Ethereum's name service is not permanent.
Dot coms are not permanent.
Well, what's the first permanent thing?
It's arguably unstoppable domains on Ethereum,
but the thing with that is you're relying on their company to run
so as long as unstoppable domains are running the company their permanent name system is working
but bitcoin 2's permanent name system would be completely on chain it would be an nft collection
it would be you'd be minting the names from the chain
and burning the Bitcoin too.
So every name created,
you have to burn one mojo.
It doesn't get paid to Team Satoshi.
They don't get paid for this.
It's not the more names that are sold,
the foundation gets income.
No, the revolution is free.
The Bitcoin too gets burnt.
So you could burn a trillion mojos to create a trillion words and that's only one bitcoin 2 burnt so it's deflationary
slightly but not that much that you know if you said every name was one bitcoin 2 then once you'd
made 10 million names or whatever all the bitcoin 2 has gone through
it's too deflationary but one mojo per name i think is perfect it's the lowest amount possible
which is also the most best for people in terms of spending less
which is generally how people are motivated
so i think you promote bitcoin Bitcoin to launch for six months.
And I think you promote the name system for two or three months.
So the name system, you could launch it on day one, but you don't want errors.
That's the only thing you don't want people's getting returned errors and
double name.
I think the name system has to be perfect.
Get the launch of Bitcoin to perfect.
And then when it's running two to three months later, launch the PNS system.
Give people a few months to get their mojos and then give everyone the same chance to get the best names.
So you're not buying the names from some guy like in a Zelda game who you have to meet him on some random place in a hill.
And then if you say the right thing, he'll sell you an emerald that's not that obscure.
It's just everyone in the world gets an equal chance.
And the name Bitcoin 2 spreads it.
And then when the name system launches, people get the concept that you're buying a unique word that everyone has an equal chance of buying.
I think a few of the names could be reserved. Amazon, Microsoft, Google.
One of the developers with that one. Though I said the names would all get burnt, it's, I think,
reserve a handful, 10, something the tech silicon valley but okay
bill gates do you want the microsoft on bitcoin to name or do you want foods to have it
sorry jeff bezos the fake sort of media character that i'm sure didn't build amazon from his
basement but in actual fact was put in there because his family's in the Illuminati.
But Jeff Bezos, if you want the Amazon Bitcoin 2 name,
or more importantly, if you don't want Birdman 2.3 to have it,
or even more importantly for you, if you don't want Edward Loose to have it,
because he's a loose cannon and he says things that other people at least now won't say and you
don't want him talking about you because he'll tell it like it is if you want edward loose the
loose cannon to own amazon on bitcoin too then that's fine but if you want to make sure that
doesn't happen remember these are the new dot comss. So Bitcoin2 would be the dot-com twos.
Very important to understand that Bitcoin2's permanent name system can, and I think will replace dot-coms.
But it won't be overnight. So it doesn't, the goal is not really to replace dot-coms.
It's to psychologically replace them so that people have safety boats to head towards.
You want dot-coms to work with you.
You want to...
It's like I host spaces on Twitter so I can reach people.
I don't host it on a speakerphone outside my flat because, although that would probably
work, someone would film it on their phone and think a mad English man was talking.
But realistically, it's harder to reach people directly.
So you want to reach people. So you don't want to replace dot coms, really.
You want to psychologically replace them so that people know Bitcoin 2 is the one thing that
can't be owned, like a dot com, which is rented. They can censor it. Bitcoin 2 names would be
permanent. So one mojo, it's not technically free, I guess, but it's the lowest fee possible that isn't completely free.
And if it's completely free,
then I think that what's stopping someone,
just one person owning all the names.
So I think having a fee actually makes it a lot more decentralized
as long as it's one mojo.
So once you've got the names system running on bitcoin 2 and anyone can
buy it on chain and it's now an nft it's not run by unstoppable domains lurky lurky if you're
listening bitcoin 2's nft system if it, all the names are on chain.
No company needed once they're minted.
The only energy needs to go into minting it at first, and that falls on Team Satoshi
to create the code that allows people to create a name for one mojo.
And then when Amazon is sold to Amazon, Team Satoshi could get paid money for that
or it could fund the ecosystem.
So, okay, Jeff Bezos,
if you want Amazon on Bitcoin too,
it's $10 million.
And we're going to fund Bitcoin too with that.
I think that's a fair play
because it gives Bezos and Gates
and Gene could tell them personally,
it gives them a chance to own their real estate on Bitcoin too, to stop people trying to expose them, telling the truth about them there, because that would be the most easy place to tell the truth about them.
So give those Silicon Valley people a chance to buy those names for a lot of money, and if not, burn them.
Don't even have to sell the top ones.
I say do that fund bitcoin too by selling the names of the top names to bezos and gates and people like that and use that money to fund people that need it preferably for millions
of dollars i've got no problem with that hey what's going on hey welcome to the stage of the first speaker today mr erg
stephiroth my good friend how's it going erg i've been doing pretty good dude i was gonna uh say to
you go in and uh double check that chat again because uh the dudes on another group chat were pretty interested in that one of them wants
like more paperwork and more like uh like a better understanding of what it is and stuff so whenever
you get the chance to make like a whole uh what do you call it um fuck what the heck is it a uh synopsis yeah like a whole synopsis and everything like a white
paper or whatever then go ahead and put that in the chat or i'll give you the guy and you could
send it on over to him he's also a dev plus like the whole thing is too with uh ergo we have the
sub blocks which is basically like blocks within blocks
of the blockchain so something like that we could like integrate into the chain pretty easily like
right off the bat wow cool that's awesome thanks very much yeah that's awesome uh we're talking
about programmable cubes here which are in the last space was, what, 27th, I think?
We talked for a good couple of hours.
You gave me great feedback.
I appreciated that.
And, yeah, the programmable cubes could be coming
to the Ergo blockchain soon.
It's not going to be released on Chia, that's for sure.
There's just no way for me to do it.
I'm at a dead end here.
So I saw Jake jump up.
Maybe he's left the stage i i was just
going to introduce you jake but uh yeah so yeah thanks very much so i'll go on the telegram
yeah because a lot of people there you know they were pretty interested in that kind of idea
because it's a good idea because you know you can then make things based off
blockchain into like a metaverse you know which is nobody's really been able to do anything like
that before and also just the whole amount of capabilities with it it's almost like
then you have a whole ton of uh technological legos that are just right there at your disposal that you could build into like visual
models of things that you want to be or whatever or like a location space for a meeting just plenty
of ideas there that you could like the possibilities are essentially infinite because it's just so
modular I love that you see the potential of it. Thanks so much.
Yeah, exactly.
You could, if you had a business meeting with some,
let's say not people in blockchain,
just random people,
then you could, or people that you knew, of course,
not random, random,
but you could create a programmable cube of just a table.
You could, presumably that'd be quite easy.
It'd be seconds by the time, if it's running,
then it'd be put online 10 kilobytes
file and then people could access the group call and meeting at the location by clicking
the programmable cube and it should route them into a web rtc conversation so yeah it's very
powerful and i you described it very well there you said it was like legos of uh
and you described it very well there.
You said it was like Legos of...
I can't remember exactly how you phrase it,
but Legos of technology in essence.
Yeah, basically, like if you have like a code snippet
or like something that you want to integrate in
or like anything like that,
you could just go ahead and code it into a cube
and then just share it kind of like how GitHub works,
but like a higher level framework even of like a GitHub.
Yeah, absolutely, because it would go straight on data layer.
Once it's there, it should in theory not be deleteable.
It'll just be right there on the data layer for everybody to use
and replicate all open source.
Yeah, exactly. It'll be like the matrix world forming and the early users basically get the best real estate yep i i think personally though like uh some of the stuff you know it is fairly
ridiculous like clearly nobody is actually going to be, you know, like those mobile app games where they sell you real estate in the thing.
Like you can't have digital real estate.
It's just besides obviously like maybe a web domain or something of the sorts where it's maybe not necessarily like an actual property or something but it's like a thing that you can use do like a
a singularly owned commodity of sorts if you know how to use it correctly but
frankly I don't see like anybody doing anything with any like Decentraland any
type of stuff like that into the future with like the vr crap because most people
see straight like even the most grand of idiots could see through that conspiracy theory right
there and just basically automatically acknowledge the fact that you know like uh like uh the chinese
recently they had this new sex robot where you can go get women eggs,
like eggs from a woman, a live female human, get them implanted into the robot. And then like,
you could like grow the baby in the robot basically. So, you know, stuff like that,
unless you're just a freaking real creep, man, man. Every dude wants a touch of a woman.
If you guys get what I'm saying.
Every woman, inherently, for the most part, wants a touch of a man at the end of the day.
Unless they're just some real big weirdos. on reality and like the uh the essence of it as opposed to something that has to do with like um
what do you call it like a digital space or anything like that if you get what i'm saying there
Yeah, sorry, I was just getting my weed there.
I was gonna...
Oh yeah, the idea of owning real estate in programmable cubes.
I think it...
I think conceptually it could be done by...
Because each cube is a certain location it might be possible to
own with a name or own with a signature one of the sub cubes but it's not really a full
like you were saying about the central and it wouldn't be you wouldn't own the whole thing but
it might be possible to own a whole cube though the ownership wouldn't uh it's basically owning something on data layer i think
it can be done but it might not be necessary so it's worth thinking about more of that i think
uh i could see the ownership being the small cube the subcube like everyone should want to
sign or get the first cube location one one one because it's complete one-off uh so that could be
ownership but yeah it's to be discussed further okay this is well also think about this realistically
too you know anybody if it becomes a mainstream serious thing which if it's done well, it most likely would just due to the quality of the overall product.
You know, it'll just get forked to high heaven.
There'll be tons of people doing similar things all over.
You know, they might make like another one, like a Bitcoin three, like a tube world or whatever the hell. And and then you know, there's just like thousands of these things that could just get
Repeatedly created and that's like the whole type of
Croc of shit that I feel like
Comes through with like all the digital land and stuff. It's just essentially worthless.
Yeah, for sure.
I do like Decentraland, but it comes down to who runs the Decentraland.org website.
They can just update the metaverse visual side of it and disregard what's happened before so who owns the dot com basically or the dot org but whereas with programmable cubes because
they're all on data layer i do think like you said different blockchains could get it and fork it to
high heaven that's i would expect that to happen and that that's a feature. That would be amazing because it's a unified standard.
Oh, yeah, it would be amazing.
It's just the fact that, you know, then the physical land aspect is essentially meaningless
because then you have like 1-1-1 on Ergo, 1-1-1 on Bitcoin, 1-1-1 on Algorand,
1-1-1 on Arbitrum, 1-1-1 on Cardano, 1-1-1 on algarand 111 on arbitrum 111 on cardano 111 on avalanche you know it's just the
same so nobody's gonna you know and then it just kind of perpetuates the whole system of like the
chain issue right now where there's just so many of them and like 90 of them are scams so we're just waiting at this point to see
what's gonna hold resolute and what's just gonna fall apart that's frankly what i'm doing at the
moment sorry what is what you were doing at the moment i don't i miss that oh i'm just waiting to
see which chains are uh gonna stand resolute and not be scams.
And then the ones that are going to fall apart, because we're kind of reaching a critical point here where people are really sick and fed up with this bullshit, with all the scams and stuff.
Like, for instance, on Ergo, we have a thing called DGEN's World, which is pretty similar to Dark.Fi.
And, you know, Dark.Fi, they've been making a fucking product for seven years. It's still in test net. Now they're doing pre-mine
scams with the same scammers that did a lithium bit main pre-mine scams. So, you know, that's a
toast compromised product. I can't be promoting that shit so on ergo recently we've
been getting a lot of people coming in from like xmr for the defy because they have no defy on xmr
and they need defy but they also want privacy so then they come on over to ergo we get a lot of
like scam victims that come on over to ergo because we're so anti-scam we get a lot of like scam victims that come on over to Ergo because we're so anti-scam.
We get a lot of people from DarkFi recently, like I've been saying, because they have all of these like extra IRC chats, everything like that.
But, you know, they're just like abusive to the community.
I said something there about Zionism, nothing even anti-semitic just something
about zionism and i was immediately uh muted for like a month really
dark is supposed to be like the epitome of like backdooring and you know to some of the guys on ergo they head into the chat and
they're like you know why'd you guys dox yourselves you guys are the devs this is supposed to be like
some backdoor secret system why are you doxing yourselves as the devs that makes zero sense
and then um they're just like well you know's got to take one for the team, ban these idiots that are asking these questions.
So it's just like total tyranny there, man.
Nobody wants to deal with that shit.
That's what I'm talking about.
Most of the chains just get completely blown up with nonsense.
Yeah, it seems that 90% of all the blockchains since bitcoin were mind control experience perhaps by the
programmers of mk ultra basically silicon valley that they're controlling all the ecosystems with
whether it's the forums the reddit post the person that hosts this oh yeah it's like all of those
worlds including chia are made up of those mind mazes
and chia especially with the chia discord is censored i've been banned from there
and then they control the reddit the chia forum they pay from the pre-farm to control people
there so like i've been banned by the silicon company which is funded by the pre-farm so i've
blocked from them michael taylor's blocked me before but he's a nice which is funded by the pre-farm. So I've blocked from them.
Michael Taylor's blocked me before, but he's a nice guy.
So that's a pre-farm effect.
So the censorship is staggering.
So that's another reason I advocate for Bitcoin 2,
because at least at the start, it wouldn't be controlled by those people.
I'd know for sure, because I, at that point, owned the Bitcoin 2 website.
So I know for a fact I'm not controlled,
although probably having my strings pulled is likely
because what happened with Wes,
but it's hard to know who to listen to really.
But programmable queues should replace that.
There'd be no one to listen to people there,
but it wouldn't be controlled per se.
But yeah, it's an interesting dilemma about
there being different one one one points perhaps just the first chain that did it well
would i suppose stand at 80 chance of being the default go-to so even if there were other forks
of it it'd be like i kind of know that this one feels like it's got a lot more chance of
being the official one because it was first so well also to realistically think about it do you
think like regular bitcoin could really support the system like that hell no uh maybe cardano
could do something just like with their hydra system. But realistically, there's, besides also maybe Caspa as well,
Caspa could probably support something like that
because it can matrix and code blocks into itself.
So anything that can, like, spread out blocks and, like, matrices,
like, I know Ergo, I keep saying Ergo,
but one of the core devs for ergo is actually
working on building some projects that is gonna make ergo the lowest transaction cost blockchain
with the highest throughput even more so than uh solana and cardano with the hydra and everything
um and you're also going to be able to put blocks within
the blocks like caspa you're going to be able to fit more blocks inside of the block than even on
caspa so you're going to be able to do like literally like millions upon millions of transactions
a second on this thing which is going to be so cool. It's almost like a Turing machine.
If you think about it, that's why I'm saying the more so what I would think about from this type
of perspective with the intensity of the technology that you would need to run something like that,
you would need a blockchain that has severely high throughput. And then at that point,
blockchain that has severely
high throughput. And then at that
point, it would almost become like a
not a sentient AI,
but it would become like
a permanent
work-in-progress AI model
almost
within the cube where everything's
being built and shared and it'd be like a
massive, not
realistically an AI, more so a
human hive mind structure where everybody within
that thing is able to just compile data and create things i love that human hive mind structure yeah
i think it would operate like that great way to phrase it yeah then on the one note that you're saying too with the uh
mk ultra stuff i mean if you look at the victims of the scams realistically if you look at these
people that have been scammed most of them have held on to coins that have dumped on them you know
95 plus and they still think something's going to happen for them. It's really sad.
And some people have leveraged their house on reverse mortgages to buy more of these literal
shit coins that have just dumped nearly 100%, just rug pulled. So they've literally stolen
people's lives with this. And if you think about about it too the amount of damage that's been done
is pretty severe and the whole market cap of crypto right now is still below just even what
microsoft is in all market cap so it's kind of phenomenal to see it like that
yeah i feel sorry for people in cheer along lines, because if I'm right about the pre-farm is being used to attack the price deliberately, then they're now selling the pre-farm to the community who are like, because they think that it's definitely going to go up in price in the future.
They've already invested a lot.
I'm just worried about people in Chia buying too much Chia right now.
If it only goes
down in price they're already struggling with money like it's do you know what i mean it's
how can you invest in something that's only gone down in price you know what it reminds me of
these coins think about in your mind everybody in the right now, get the mental image of a barn animal dying.
And you know, when they're just farting, shitting all over, that's what's happening to these coins right now.
Just all over the faces of the holders of these literal shit coins.
Just complete.
No, great way to praise it
yeah I think I think it's fairly funny
when you just make it into a huge comedy
circus show because that's frankly
what it is at the end of the day
just a massive fucking circus act
of these people
that are just moronic
I don't know
okay I will say though people that buy some of these
things like for instance yesterday night i was in a uh chat and um told somebody you know i was like
if you he was gonna buy more ohm more uh mantra chain the vc uh the vc dow scam mantra chain and um
basically i told him i was like dude if i have like zero product for you and i'm selling you
thin air you know and this is like the same thing for dark fight. And I sell you thin air for seven years. Would you, would you like believe that I'm not a scammer? Would you give me money? Because I'm
hoping that these people, if they're going to be so generous, so as to give these like
asshole scammers money, that they'll just give me the money instead, frankly, at this point,
because they're, they're going to give it to somebody. And that's the one thing I've noticed. I'm not saying like, Oh, you know, I want to scam them or anything. It's just kind of frankly, at this point, because they're going to give it to somebody. And that's the one thing I've noticed. I'm not saying like, oh, you know, I want to scam them or anything. It's just kind
of frankly, a facetious joke that I'm making at the whole situation. But, you know, it proves to
show how ridiculous the whole thing is. Frankly, when, when some, when, you know, like Edward,
if you had literally nothing to give me and you kept trying to get money from me, man, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tolerate that crap, you know, and you're even my buddy.
So it just makes zero sense that these people continue to buy things from people that they don't know, have no idea who they are or what they're doing.
They're like the actual secret reasonings behind everything.
I don't know if you've done more research into the chia pre-farm and everything after I was
talking about it like last space. But I mean, it seems like you did look into it a bit more
because now you seem extremely convinced that almost, like you said, 90% of this is
just a complete fraud.
Yeah, just going on the red flags, which I ran through earlier in the space, but I said
the fake grants program was the first.
That made no sense.
Having no grants program is a silly idea, but to have a fake one, like the analogy I
gave was imagine a primary school
where on the day one there was no building when you got there you'd be like what is going you
can't have a primary school without a building like it's the same with a blockchain without a
grant program but imagine if the primary school had a potemkin fake building there as well now
it's not just ineptitude it It's, okay, red flag.
Why is there a fake building at a primary school?
I'm taking my kid home.
Well, that's what Chia's got with its fake grants program.
They don't have a grants program, but they've got a fake one as well,
pretending that they do.
Also, they said they wouldn't sell the pre-farm they have,
so they've broken the promise there.
That's a red flag.
Peter Thiel and Mark Andresen are financial backers.
That's a red flag. And Gene chose the pre-farm size personally that's a red flag so I've got four red flags
that I've sort of summarized in my own head anywhere there may even be more so you said
the financial backers there and the sort of the history of it that's more about the Thiel and
Andreessen but they're not trustworthy and also Peter teal's meant to be the one that pulled the money out of silicon valley
bank which is why chia started selling the pre-farm so it's not much of a stretch for me to
think that someone not that smart like pete teal might think it was a good idea to start using chia's pre-farm to pay the bills and to get there fake a financial
collapse so that the cni team whose money was in silicon valley bank suddenly their ipo fell apart
right at the last minute highly suspicious so we can get into that more if you want but yeah there's
a lot of question marks about peter teal and mark andresen and their links to it all and that's what i've noticed as well you know there's
a lot of uh people out there that are doing a lot of crap behind the scenes to pay their own bills
that's another reason why i like ergo as well too because most of the devs we have on there
you know we pay for our own listings places we're gonna get listed we fund it like ourselves and
stuff uh everything is all bootstrapped by the community you know and there's been times when
some of the core devs that are like a lot more wealthy than some of the other like smaller fish holders on the chain, they'll donate out of pocket to help cover some of the expenses.
One time they were having like a problem pulling an API from like a mining program that they had created and they had to pay miners and they had like a lot of people on there so one of the core devs actually paid out of pocket for these miners for like two or
three days while they sorted out the api situation wow um could you give a bit more info about ergo
i'm really interested yeah what's like the core of the project? Where did it come from and how long has it been around and stuff?
Well, basically it was like a 95% fair launch where only 5% was given to the foundation.
And, um, I mean the one group chat that you're in, we're responsible there for running off a lot of those bad actors in the foundation.
You know, like whenever there's a problem, a lot of people come into that chat.
I don't know if you've seen like some of the drama that happens there, but a lot of people will be watching that chat just to make sure that, you know, like we don't have a, a peg on kind of whatever
bullshit they're doing. And then if they realize that we've got them, then they come into the chat
and start trying to warfare with us. But most of the time, you know, the people there, we don't
tolerate that kind of bullshit. So we we've actually had a situation where the whole main chat got split with like 10,000 members in it due to something that was going on on the side involving us because this fucking tyrant did not want to give up control of what he was doing.
And he kept booting people out of the main chat, abusing the main chat, talking about sex and porn.
a lot of the main chat abusing the main chat talking about sex and porn he had big black
cock mk ultra porn nfts in the fucking treasury wallet of his filthy fucking uh group that he was
in he had a whole like nickname for these guys the cunt gang and he has actual like satanists
involved in this group and shit and we ran these guys right off a chain because, well, they're still there,
but they have absolutely no power.
All of their admin has been removed and everything.
Basically, you know,
like we led the charge against getting their fucking bullshit out of there,
dude.
That's why I'm saying it's pretty,
we got a pretty stable system there where we're pretty far ahead of removing a lot of these fucking assholes off of the chain and making sure that their power is limited and that they're not able to just rape and assault just regular holders of the coin with whatever like little secret agenda they've got in store.
But yeah, for the most part, it had a good fair free launch and everything. It was only
slowly but surely that this little like tyrant guy that I'm talking about even started to
get control over the chain. But you know, it has been handled now. So like I said,
there's no more bad actors on there either.
It's all community creators,
everything of the sorts.
I feel like it's way further ahead than like 95% of cryptocurrencies,
if not potentially like the most advanced cryptocurrency currently out at the moment with especially like the fact
that it's not at all like a secretive little scam or anything like that because even though
the treasury for the foundation had a five percent uh supply allocation it was still so small
they can't really affect the network or anything.
It's really got my interest in Ergo. And when you were saying about the fair launch and stuff,
I do think that that is crucial to have a fair launch, because psychologically, at least on day
one, you're on the same sort of footing as you went in the primary school to use that analogy again uh so everyone at least got there on day one but if you get there and some
families were there a bit before or they've got more power suddenly it's like not a fair feeling
and i think with chia they lost that fair launch by not promoting it enough but also
sort of keeping it too quiet so yes something like ergo
if it was more fair you're more likely to stand up to the people who like you said could be the
mossad it could be the spy agencies it could be just bad actors but you're more likely to stand
up and fight morally with them if you think that it was a fair system at launch which is and we got a lot of we got a lot of wise like really
well put together smart dudes on there we got dudes that are doing like quantum physics uh like
computer science shit guys that are like they've worked doing like actual like aerospace stuff like
serious minds on there and these are just like third party this isn't anybody
that's like paid for by anybody it's just genuine like third party inventors and shit on the chain
like actually trying to develop stuff and i'd say like pound for pound we probably have the highest
concentration of intellectuals and uh like thorough put gentlemen more so than any other
chain you know like we're big on trying to get like precious metal stable coins we have two
stable coins already on the chain as well too and it's just like a small hidden chain you know like i i i'm personally an advocate of into the future
i think ergo is going to be used kind of like a reserve asset like almost like a bank account
for peer-to-peer transfers because of the amount of stable coins and the integration with the gold
and silver plus like myself i'm making the RWA decks or ergo.
I mean,
it's going to have RWA's peer to peer money,
you know,
stable coins like algorithmic banking and everything extremely,
you know,
that's like so far ahead,
especially with only one cent transactions
and it's only a two minute transaction time it's pretty pretty honestly like revolutionary
technology there that's cool what's the consensus mechanism for a go um is it proof of work yeah it's proof of work it also takes 90 percent of miners
to like seriously change the network
so you need 90 not 90 majority to like eclipse or like overtake nodes and shit like that but
like you need 90 to make a consensus for like a change to
the uh underlining like we use like eip 12 is the name of it to make like a change to like those
kind of like the root of those contracts if you get what i'm saying yeah sure sure how many nodes does it add roughly?
Only about 200.
I mean it's nothing crazy but also I've run
simulation attacks on it
and it
would be impossible to hack
because all
the exchanges, the
block finality time with the amount of confirmations you would need is like 30 to 60 minutes.
And even if you forked and had the longest chain on your fork, it would still like check the mempool after you are no longer able to 51% and,
it would see,
okay,
the mempool,
this is actually the longest chain reverted back to the old chain because you
couldn't eclipse the nodes anymore.
And then since all the nodes randomized after an hour,
you would be disconnected and thrown off of your eclipse.
So you would not be able to hold any,
anything ransom
over the chain
because you wouldn't be able to
block the node from sending the data
to be able to hide the fact
that you're now 51%
in the network to be able to
fork out if you get what I mean there
Oh this is brilliant
I mean to me it's a no braininer to try and build programmable cubes there.
Like, I'm in.
Like, it's an absolute no-brainer.
One of my catchphrases is timing is everything, and the timing couldn't be better.
And so even with 200 nodes, for me, that's interesting, though, because how do you get
from 200 nodes to 1,000?
If it could be programmable cubes, that would be good for programmable cubes and me.
So having less nodes actually strangely is in a sense better because you could calculate
the effect of it.
If it has any effect that is, but yeah, I'm really excited.
Ergo have to think of ergo puns. Ergonomic?
It's...
Er...
Er gentleman was an old catchphrase I did.
We got a lot of ancient Greeks.
Ergo!
We got a lot of ancient Greek stuff.
Like, for instance, like, Virgo is like a play on words for like, uh, like Argo Jason and the Argonauts.
Right.
And then, uh, there's a guy on chain that helped develop a lot of stuff named Jason Davies, who actually has like some connections back to Google and stuff.
Um, yeah, he's, he hides himself around on chain a lot of the time especially whenever we
catch one of his accounts posting the account immediately gets hidden right away because he
doesn't because he doesn't want us to uh see what he's doing a lot of the time because he's pretty
secretive i don't think the guy's up to no good or anything
it's just you know he's kind of like uh one of those like little mystical figures that kind of
like wanders around and then it's always up to like some little secret shit in the background
like making like a real thing happen while everybody else is kind of just like putting up
a front if that makes any sense.
He's not, it's not really like a scam or anything like Chia,
along the lines of like, oh, they're moving money,
wandering shit through a bank or anything. Like the worst these guys are doing is just like trying to program some shit
on the side and then tell you like they're programming this one thing,
but then they actually release something better that
way the idea is installed if that makes any sense yeah for sure it is almost it almost seems madness
to me that i could work in chia for basically five years and something with 200 nodes could ask me if I want to build something first.
Like, I want to do programmable cubes on Chia,
but it's just been impossible to even start.
Well, that's why I'm saying, man, all the guys on Ergo,
well, not like all of them, but a lot of them,
when I sent that idea to one of our other main chats,
they were like, holy cow, is revolutionary and like super fucking interesting we need more like get this guy to write a paper about this or like
release whatever extra information you can when it's available so really spend time thinking
through like your idea come up with like a good thing and then send that on over and then i'll
link you through the some of the other guys too i mean i
don't know if they'll develop it for you or not they might because sometimes you know they
that's one thing i noticed the devs are pretty stupid not like stupid in the sense like
in any way like they're intellectually incapable but they're just not like a
a creative thinker for example so like a creative thinker, for example. So like a
creative thinker might have more of like a, an idea that's a heavy hit, like uses a lever to kind
of get extra, extra power, like a force multiplier, as they call it in the military, you know, they
know where to like really hit. Right. But then the dev, they're more so focused on their geniuses in making
the uh the actual program and everything there's been some times where they thought like my idea
is stupid and then like two months down the line they develop it and then you know like obviously
i'm not getting credit for it but like a master, I've seeded it into their own brain, into their subconscious.
And the only reason that idea even happened was because, yeah, you're doing it in the background in secret.
So stuff like that, you know, like even if they don't develop it still, most likely into the future.
most likely into the future since like i said a lot of those dudes are like serious geniuses
in like pretty pronounced fields they'll most likely understand the value of it and know the
time and place when to kind of start creating something like that especially when sub blocks
fully comes out because like i said dude that would be like really one of the only chains
besides maybe cardano caspa that could actually run something like that because ethereum can't
even run that could you imagine trying to run something like that on ethereum it would completely
blow up the whole network gas fees would go back up to like 5050. Let me think about this.
One second.
Yeah, you're probably right thinking about it.
I was just trying to run it through in my head.
I was like, if you could sign the programmable cube up
by using an NFT to sign something,
it might be possible to do it without a transaction fee.
But the thing with Ethereum is, if then any of the apps using programmable cubes wanted
to do anything on chain, yeah, Ethereum wouldn't scale.
But maybe Ergo would or Chia or Bitcoin 2 would.
So yeah, I think you're probably right.
It wouldn't run.
It would technically work, but it wouldn't be feasible on Ethereum, I think.
Yeah, it would be bottlenecked.
It would be like trying to run Cyberpunk 2077 through a 50-70 Ti.
You could probably get 15 FPS on low settings,
but if you have that 50-90, a better chain or something like that it's
not really shit to run something like that
so this is this is honestly good for yourself because it does
kind of then increase the actual use case for usefulness or something like this because
you know it slims the options options of idiots that could fork it to
high heaven like a pump.fun
where 5,000
meme coins of the same thing are releasing
every second because it was such
a great idea
because I really do think that Programmable
Cubes has the potential to become something
like this.
Really good like that, dude.
Oh, that, dude.
Oh, that's awesome. Love it. I think because it's a visual metaverse that's block shaped,
you know, it's, I've pinned at the top of the thing. And if anyone's listening to this,
they want to see some of the designs, it's on my timeline, a new form of music on Twitter.
But yeah, because the visual shape is the same as blocks, like in a blockchain, you can create, you could create a,
like imagine exploring the blockchain's history.
And it's like, oh, I want to see what was on Ergo on day one,
let's say you could put every block from the blockchain link
to the visual metaverse of the programmable cubes.
So that you just go to the visual one.
And if you want to see what was in
the first block click it or type the number 111 and it would just come up block one so the visual
metaverse could actually map all the information from the blockchain into a format that grandma
could actually use and look through which is really important i think it needs to be usable and yeah i think
it's such a it's almost a coincidence in a sense that the shape of it is like a block and that
the blockchain is blocked called blockchain because it could have been called a list chain as well i
guess copying and pasting a list but it's's called blocks, but programmable queues are blocks.
And it sounds like what you were talking about,
I think you called it sub-blocks.
That was exactly the same analogy as well.
So what are sub-blocks exactly?
Well, it's like how Casper can fit blocks within blocks.
It's like a...
I'm not sure about that.
OK. It's like a... I'm not sure about that. Okay.
Basically,
you have your one
standard block, and then
say there's like 100 units of blocks
inside that one block.
So technically you have like 101 blocks.
It's like an exponential scale like that and then within like that subset of a hundred blocks
Maybe you have a hundred blocks in there. So then a hundred times a hundred
Plus one big block that they're all in it's what like ten thousand and one. I'm pretty sure
10,001 I'm pretty sure so then yeah you got like 10,001 blocks now so it but it's all technically
within one block so everything is just processed is like one block overall if that makes any sense
but all the data is in there it's like the same thing like Caspa transactions. That's how they do transactions on Caspa.
They just cram blocks inside blocks like that.
I mean, the whole thing that you're going on to about the cube stuff,
the reason why they do that, it's pretty esoteric occult thing,
but it deals with Saturnalia, their black cubes, black rock,
the Kaaba, the like Muslim black cube that they all walk around, uh, the Teflon,
the black cube that the Jews put on their heads, you know, the cross, what is the cross?
what is the cross
you know if you
splay a cube into a 2D
format you get a cross
so it's just
a huge occult
religious programming thing
it's just
it's the essence of the
matrix essentially
they get you how King Solomon
had his Salomnic seal
that he used to control the spirits like the
demons and the angels and whatnot it all goes back to that like geometries um essentially like the
cube is a 3d version of the 2d hexagram which is the jew Jewish star of David. It just all relates back to that, really.
I mean, I go into that, too, in my group chat and stuff where I talk about stuff like that
and, like, actually how those geometries work and whatnot.
Yeah, that's great thinking, the two. And thanks for mentioning for mentioning it and also it is an open conspiracy
space so if you want to chat about anything that isn't uh there's basically a conspiracy
base you're welcome to as well i'm kind of just chatting now that's all good but if there's
anything conspiracy related you want to get on record you're welcome to anyone listening can do
it as well if you come up blah blah blah but uh yeah let's keep it going uh yeah so this is really cool one thing i wanted to ask was
what do you know about casper as far as is that like untouched by the kind of the mossad people
or is that compromised too i'm unsure because yesterday i saw on twitter the uh founder of caspa he's a jew
his name is a shy deshi i'm pretty sure that's how you say his last name but he's the founder
of caspa he's like extremely jewish uh like types in hebrew and shit type jewish like extremely jewish knows um like their language and everything
speaks in it like fluent and everything so this guy i saw him arguing with other jews
the other day that we're talking about uh like how goyim are idiots and whatnot i actually saw him
he posted under there he's, this is why everybody hates us
Jewish people because of people, because of Jews like you. I saw him. He actually put that underneath
one of like the, like rabbi. I don't know if you know, like rabbi homo, rabbi shlomo,
homo is what I call him. You know, there's the Chabad guys, a lot of those guys, you know,
those dudes are all like those corrupt Jews that call the people like Goyim, you know, you're like,
you're a fucking Gentile. You're just a loser. If you're a Christian to a Jew, you are a Goyim
because you are not Jewish since you believe in Christ. Even if you're Jewish,
there's a class of Jewish people that believe in Christ. They're called like Messiah, believing
Jews. They're even technically considered goyim to their own kind, the other Jews. They'll still
call them goyim because they're not fully jewish since
you if you're truly jewish you don't believe that christ is a messiah you just believe he's like a
skilled prophet essentially just like the same thing the muslims do so i mean at the end of the
day all those religions are just like a huge psyops scam. But frankly, you know, like seeing the inner workings of the Caspa founder's heart,
where he's saying stuff like, you guys are making us look bad and stuff.
I don't think he, he personally, at least is in the class of compromised Jewish individuals,
especially from some of the other stuff he's done.
But he has battled with his own community too
and i think uh one thing that happens is a lot of these guys that are too good natured they don't
really realize the extent of how they're being mk altered and manipulated that's kind of like
what happened with ergo with this guy that slowly took control over these chats until it was too late.
And legitimately, man, unless it was for me, like rallying like 50 to 75 people against
this dude that was trying to attempt this chain takeover, like rallying like multiple
chain OGs that have been around even back since like 2018 on Ergo you know unless those dudes were
like really willing to stand in there and do something that I don't think I think Ergo would
probably be at like 20 or 15 cents right now just completely abducted there's because this guy
literally is going to destroy the whole chain and make it like some weird like satanist leftist thing and like i said too like he slowly kind of seeded his way in there worked his way in there
without anybody even really fucking noticing that he did this shit and that's what i think that
happened to the caspa founder too but a lot of those guys don't admit it because you got to
remember that chains like
their baby their project and they want people to be using this stuff and they think like you know
probably down the line you know like god will help handle it for them and whatnot they're
probably most likely correct but they also don't really say much besides kind of cryptically about
those things because then it's just bad pr to say like we got overrun by some MK ultra CIA
Mossad people that are now in full control of the chain.
You see what I'm saying there?
It kind of makes you look like a fucking retard and a fool.
Then you just supposedly develop like this multiple,
like a hundred million,
multiple billion dollar,
like useful project. And you got fucking manipulated by
some some retard satanists i mean it it's not really like a good look and it takes away like
the faith that people would have in the chain because if the founder got absolutely
manipulated and domineered who's to say that those dudes don't have just like full control
over the chain yeah absolutely and definitely applies to chia that is a perfect like analogy
for or link to it because like with bitcoin one and it bit torrent even though it was known who
did bit torrent it was like it launched you didn't really know the person involved it just worked and off you go to the races like anonymous creator no need to ask
questions because we don't know who it was off to the races but by having that creator
if that creator can be co-opted so if yeah if they are trying to control Chia Gene for example
then if he's controlling Bram then you've got a compromised control system in
a sense and why did gene put a pre-farm in the size of what chia had and then lie about not
selling it well and that's also the thing too you know if you sorry to interrupt you but if you
create the size of the pre-farm you could get the entire pattern of all of the liquidity,
especially if you own the majority of that pre-farm,
you would make the entire fucking price whenever you want to,
because you have all,
you would literally be able to make all of the chart patterns.
It would just,
the chart would look random,
but it would just be you creating the entire pattern. Cause you would have like the initial first data point, and then you can know and map based on what you have when everybody else has stuff and also the sentiment of the markets what's going to happen.
Yeah, absolutely.
You would basically control the entire reserve bank of it.
Like if Bitcoin launched and there was a reserve bank of it like if bitcoin launched and
there was a reserve bank owned by one company well it wouldn't work no one would trust it because
as soon as there's one whiff of dishonesty you'd have to presume the worst right well that's just
what's happened with chia so uh the sort of the system that you explained is kind of does apply here i think because why is the pre-farm like what was it 18 million or something it's like the whole size of
the original bitcoin was created in the pre-farm and they said they wouldn't sell it and then not
just did they start selling it they're now and this actually might be my fifth red flag going
back to my red flags is they're selling the pre-farm directly to the community
to me that's a red flag because firstly they promised not to sell it but they kept promising
things for the community we've got new things coming we've got new things coming one of the
new things that they hyped up was basically selling the pre-farm directly to the community
that's madness like that's you shouldn't be bragging about that. You should be
like not framing it that way. So that might be my, was it one, two, three, four, fifth red flag.
I'm going to put a question mark next to it. Is selling the pre-farm directly to oh yeah because uh for example look at look at vask coin right i know he's a cheat he
was a chia farmer i don't know if he still is right a lot of these guys spent all this money
on just these fucking hard drives to mine chia with you know so they're buying all this stuff okay giving all these dudes
all they got to do is create a product sell it to you give you some hype run it up with some bots
get a market maker on their uh price action and boom the whole scam's done already you know like
because some dude like vascoin or like how you were saying, like, they're just selling it directly to the people now.
What are you trading for that, Chia?
You're trading life force, actual labor, wage, real world value, essentially, for thin air, for these scam tokens.
And that's what they want you to do because that's
where the actual money is you know they're literally stealing your life is what these
fucking assholes are doing these are the this is the utmost uh excellency that they're showing in
black magic this isn't even you a MKUltra cult tactic.
This is just essentially like actual
black magic that these guys
are doing at the highest levels of this.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And if Lurkey is listening to this
and thinking, is he using an analogy?
No, I think it may actually
and probably is some form of black magic
and making people sort of return to the, I'm not sure how to phrase it, but like almost want to return to the scene, doubly certain that they were right all along to then get trounced again perhaps but yeah it does feel like it could be black magic because the the people who run silicon valley are using sort of german military uh secrets in a sense to
program people in silicon valley so it probably does involve the occult to some degree to what
degree i'm not sure but there's almost certainly a link well i think money in general is just
essentially black magic unless it's a physical thing.
Because think about it, man.
If you're a monkey, and I'm a monkey as well, and we're trading bananas as currency, right?
Like, we do that because we need them as food.
food so they have like an actual use but then if you can convince a monkey to take paper and then
So they have like an actual use.
exchange it for the banana right then you can the banana is the actual thing but if you get now the
monkey uh the other monkeys to accept the paper for their bananas now you can use that thing
basically to just get free shit you just give them the useless paper and they go get their bananas now you can use that thing basically to just get free shit you just give
them the useless paper and they go get their bananas right and then you just have a whole
corner on the market it's just an entire manipulation scheme where that sheet of paper
is like your way in in order to uh like the current like like banks, like it's all encoded, like a river, right?
Their money is flowing. Okay. So like a river flows, you have the banks on either side that
hold the current, the currency in the river. You know, it's just a complete occult scam here it's all black magic that they're doing
and they have it programmed they program language in an extremely deep complex way
to manipulate your mind and everything to accept this type of crap. Like think about too, just even in the mid 2000s with the WMDs in Iraq,
I know even in Britain, they were telling you guys, oh, we got to go into Iraq. There's WMDs.
We got to get Saddam, you know, and everything. That's just a lie. And then now they openly admit
that it's a lie. And just recently with Maduro, they did the same thing.
They said, oh, this is all the cocaine.
Well, we're well aware.
And this is on the same note of, like you said, they just run it again on you.
We're well aware that the U.S. is the people supplying that cocaine through the CIA.
This was found out in the 80s that the CIA is the main perpetrators of this filth in Latin America. And yet we're
going and stealing whole countries based on false pretenses because our own intelligence agencies
are running psyops in order to get us to do like in order to be able to steal things. That's not
at all a calculated thing. It's just a black magic manipulation ritual on the entire world
it's not like even that complex it's just a black magic ritual realistically
yeah fascinating stuff do you get the impression that people are talking about this more and more
now yeah that's a thing that i've noticed as well. But these guys,
their time is about up. That's why they're panicking, stealing countries right now,
because the US is in $40 trillion of debt. I don't know if I said this before, but the plan is
steal as many countries as we can, try to take over Greenland, try to get Colombia, try to get Cuba, try to get Venezuela, and then rotate out the gold into crypto, Bitcoin, everything.
You know, rotate out the gold and silver into that.
And then once you have that, then you dump the U.S. strategic Bitcoin reserve and you have all the extra countries and everything.
Bitcoin reserve and you have all the extra countries and everything, you can pay off your
debt and spread all of your debt into the regular world economy and everybody else eats your shit.
That's what the U.S. is going to try to do. I mean, if you think about that plan, that's really
the only thing that they can do at this point. And because people are getting aware of it,
you can see they're getting extremely desperate.
Like my friend told me the other day, they were already trying to beat the curve and do this shit in fucking Ukraine.
Because Ukraine is like the number one hotspot for the deep underground military bases, the bio labs, all the fucking disgusting child trafficking, human trafficking, pedophile shit going on.
They're trying to set that up in the Ukraine and then Russia shut them down.
And they were trying to steal the Ukraine's resources through Zelensky with the EU and everything.
Now they can't.
So they had to resort to doing things like what they're doing to venezuela and colombia and
whatnot yeah of course because that's all going on now like in real time the last week maduro being
abducted to the uh america i would argue fake abducted, get into conspiracies. I think he's an actor playing along, but whether he was really abducted or fake abducted,
the narrative is that big things are happening in the narrative like this week.
Well, and the baseline is abducted or not.
Now, it's publicly known that the US fucking owns Venezuela's $20 trillion worth of oil.
That's the only thing that needs to be declared from the press because think of your standard fucktard.
They don't care if Maduro's captured fakely or not.
They just care that now the U.S. owns all this oil and now the markets react off of that so they can prop everything up.
And then have a reason for your standard idiot
they have a broadcast that's another thing broadcast what is that word spell cast you're
broadcasting your spells
i don't know if you've heard the one that tell live vision.
Television, tell live vision.
No, I had not.
I must have heard of that one before.
But I've written it down anyway.
It's been a while since I heard it.
But tell live vision but broadcast
i had not heard so cast a spell then broad the cast well think about the think about the name
the term broadcast right it's just telling you what it's doing you're broadly casting Broadly casting so when they broadcast on tell live vision
they're
Telling you get what you I mean, it's just encoded in the word right there
Like if you have knowledge you're on the knowledge like you're on the ledge of knowing
When they tell me
tell live vision
you could see it both ways
tell live vision or tell live vision
and then they also say too
like um what is it
elite
the word elite e-l-I-T-E.
If you break that up,
that just means elite.
You're like a person of L,
like the Elohim.
That's why they say you're elite.
You have like a,
like a extra supernatural capacity.
All of these things are like ancient terminologies that have been brought
through in language.
Sorry, I'm just munching through a muffin there.
Yeah, what a time.
First week of 2026.
Things are happening, I think.
Things are synchronizing in my life.
And I'm starting to think that there's going to be a fight back now.
I think that the truth is getting out there and it's spreading.
So it's going to come down to will it be
a world war or will the people rise essentially yeah a war of the will a war of the wills essentially
you're english right do you guys eat those uh you eat not pork and beans but you guys eat like
beans and toast and shit over there a lot right they do it's pretty now i sort of think about it
it's pretty gross food beans on toast but when i was young it was essentially a staple like you'd eat beans on toast but that
would be a breakfast so what do you want for breakfast today beans on toast would be common
beans we're eating with everything but i guess the beans are not the problem it's the tomato
ketchup sauce that they're served in i suppose uh that makes it unhealthy but yeah beans on to confirm it is not a cliche beans on toast is uh
an everyday food in england yeah what is that green what is that green shit that you guys put
on the potatoes dude that looks so good actually like those meat pies with the mash and the fucking
uh green stuff on there i don't know Whatever that green thing is looks so good, dude.
I'm not sure.
What dish is it?
What's in the pie?
It's like a meat pie,
and it's got
mack potatoes,
and it has a green...
I don't know if it's parsley or something,
but it's like a creamy herb gravy
or something that goes on the potatoes that you get you know what meal i'm talking about right
like the pie with the mash that's one that you guys have a lot too right yeah it was the green
ingredient that i was not sure about yeah pie and mash is one of the best things in England,
I think, for a dish that is
like worldwide.
Yeah, I've always
wanted to try that, dude, because that looks
pretty damn good, honestly. Just besides
I'd have maybe like a bite or
two of the jellied eels, but I've never
had those before. I don't know
how they would taste.
Oh, pretty
gross. They're gross?
I think
they're maybe not tasting
gross, but they're like a
cold, jelly
fish
thing. Oh, the texture
is just disgusting.
I think, yeah.
And having said that, I can't even remember if I've actually ever tried them. I think, yeah. And having said that, I can't even remember
if I've actually ever tried them.
I think it was one of those things that
when you're growing up,
you would almost be dead to try it.
And that was enough for me.
But yeah, I think they're pretty...
To say it's a refined taste would be probably
overpraising it.
What's another main English type type of dish you guys have
like liver there liver is one that's like kind of uh english too right like a liver sausage or
something yeah i think that the number one liver sort of dishes uh, yeah, for sure. Have some liver with that, but the absolute
king, the king of all, in fact and chips that's the one that universally
like in thailand if if they say where are you from i'm from england fish and chips fish like
when people are sort of trying to say something to connect to someone sort of like oh where are
you from thailand oh my time Muay Thai, Muay Thai.
Like you're trying to, like, just, and so fish and chips is the thing that people always say when I tell them I'm English.
But in England, they do eat that as a, not every day,
but like the British fish and chips would be something that people,
everyone in England eats.
Oh, you're in Thailand?
Yeah
based in Bangkok. Dude I like
I like the Pod
CU the fucking
Pod Kimau. Dude
those are so good.
Yeah Pod CU is beautiful.
Could you explain what it is for the people that don't
don't know I guess?
Yeah it's like a big...
Okay, it's like a funny joke to me, but I call them ass noodles
because the noodles are like a big, thick ass.
They come out like a big, thick ass sheet.
You could smack them.
They sound like you're smacking a big booty.
But they're like really big, thick noodles,
almost like an Asian lasagna sheet that they cut and then they mix it in,
in like a stir fry with like some,
not like it's seafood sauce,
oyster sauce,
but you know,
it doesn't taste at all like oysters.
It tastes completely different.
Frankly,
they put it in a ton of fucking chinese
food if you have had chinese food you've probably had it and never known and they most of the time
mix in mushroom sauce too which is like shiitake mushrooms for myself a lot of the time when i make
a pod siu i'll make with like the pod siu. And then I put in a Szechuan chili paste and Szechuan chili oil.
Those two go really good together, actually.
And that's how I make it.
But it's basically just like a noodle stir fry with that sauce and some spices and stuff like that.
With some veggies and whatnot.
Asian veggies like bok choy and like carrots and stuff like that.
A good summary of PadCU.
If there are any PadCU vendors out there who would like to release something
on the Ergo blockchain, you know which Telegram chat to join.
Yeah, PadCU is a classic.
They've got the nice
cold chilies
in the vinegar sauce you could
sprinkle on it so you get a bit of spice.
And I think those vegetables
are quite smoky as well.
Yeah, Patsy Yu is a classic.
Good shout out there.
Yeah, have you ever
had the satay
or whatever it is too?
It's kind of like an Asian kebab almost, but it's like a filet instead of ground beef.
Do you mean like the satay sticks?
Yes, yes, exactly that. Yes, exactly that.
Got it.
I love that.
There's one around the corner from where I live, actually.
It's a 10-minute walk.
I've not been for a while, but really good stuff, yeah.
What's the name of it?
See if I can find the name.
It's rare to give a shout-out to a local.
I suppose maybe that'll give my location.
Probably I shouldn't.
Yeah, yeah, you give a shout- to a local i suppose maybe that'll give my location i probably i shouldn't yeah yeah you give a shout out to the local place and yeah people if you ever make it
big they're just gonna know where you live yeah i won't say that it's in north greenland mr trump
and mr hockman if you're listening so uh that's a North Green one.
I'm going to set up a Bitcoin Bangkok night at some point.
I don't know when.
I'm hoping it'll be this year.
But I want to do a meet-in-person IRL Bitcoin Bangkok event.
So that's coming soon, hopefully.
Well, my wife is Thai, so her family's in Thailand.
So, I mean, I'm planning on going there eventually.
Nice.
You know you can get five-year visas right now.
Did you know that?
It's, yeah, it's like a one-off thing that I've lived here 17 years,
getting on for 20 years, and the one ball eight with it is the visa every year headache doesn't matter what job you do how
much money you've got it's always a headache but now they've started giving five-year visas out
for very easy and you can apply online especially for the white boys especially for the white boys
too they give them right out to white guys because
they're like oh come here we know you 60 year old german pedophiles want these thai lady boys
i'm not sure i think they're trying to get rid of those people that might be the reason they're
doing it it's like a muay thai visa. But there's lots of people like Ladyboys here, though.
I am not one of them.
They're a pain in the ass.
But I'm not sure about the – I think there's probably child trafficking going on.
But maybe – I shouldn't talk about it, but moving swiftly on.
But, yeah, there's five-year visas here.
So I'll give a shout-out to that for studying Muay Thai, of all things.
For studying Muay Thai.
Just to go there and study Muay Thai, you get a five-year visa.
Yeah, it's like $300.
Only $300 for that.
It's crazily cheap, man.
If you were thinking of that, they're coming here.
if you were thinking of that coming here i think i can i think i can technically get citizenship
since my wife uh is can be citizen nice and she's thai she just has to go get a passport and then
apply for a thai citizenship she was born here but both her parents are thai so she's technically i
so she can still get citizenship there and then if uh what do you call it? I'm pretty sure if you have a spouse, you can, that's a Thai citizen, you can then apply for Thai citizenship. But like you're saying, they do keep it very hard to get citizenship there. Like if I were to go there as a foreigner, or I don't know about yourself, but I'm pretty sure you can't even own land in Thailand right now because you're a foreigner or i don't know about yourself but i'm pretty sure you can't even own land in thailand right now because you're a foreigner you don't have like a citizenship or anything
beyond the visa is that correct they make it really hard to own land here yeah you can't own
land basically and even if you own a building or a room i think something like% has to be in a Thai person's name, I think.
Something like that.
So, yeah, it doesn't work well with ownership here.
But it sounds like you're sorted, though.
It's great if you can get citizenship.
Dude, you should just get one of those sweet little Thai girls for yourself, dude.
And then you could get yourself citizenized.
Get one of those.
They're so nice dude they're so
they're so respectful and nice they're not like those like uh like those american women
or especially not to sound racist here but the black women that just fucking scream
cheat on you like assault your children dude they're just such horrible piece of shit mothers
too like if you look at their children they're all committing crimes in those neighborhoods you
know then you got like your terrible like white mother that's just like a just like a stuck-up
brat trophy wife as well dude does it the asian women especially like the thai women the japanese women they're all
like way more uh respectful well i'm not i'm not sure i agree with everything you just said there
about the different nationalities i'm not from america so i'm not exactly sure but i i never
got the impression that black women were worse parents.
If anything, they're more motherly in a lot of respects, at least the ones I've met are.
But I mean, as far as like Thai girlfriends, I've had Thai girlfriends in the past,
but I keep my life simple these days.
I stay single and I'm the exception to the rule as far as like why people live here.
So I'm probably the one single guy that tries to stay single that there is in this whole country.
But that may not be forever, though.
But they are sweet girls, though, Thai girls.
Definitely.
They make great girlfriends and wives,
and you've got to choose the right ones, of course,
but that's like with anywhere.
But they're wonderful mums as well.
They're very caring.
That's what I was going to're the the one thing about the uh black women here in america uh okay comparable to thailand
and probably in uh britain i'm not sure if it's like this in the uh what's the one town that was rated the worst in britain it begins with an l
like l o something uh
no not london um
it's the one with all the indians that live in it It's got like a ton of Pakistanis to a ton of Chinese.
I know London has that loft in maybe or something like that.
I know.
I know what you mean.
Luton.
Luton.
Yes.
Luton.
Okay.
I don't know if it's similar in Luton, but here in like U S ghettos and and stuff the black mothers do not watch their children at all
they're always out in the streets committing crime they have like a uh i can't do anything
about it attitude as a parent it's very terrible very very disgusting and terrible and a lot of
the times the white women here
recently, like, I don't know what it's like, probably a similar type of thing in Thailand,
if you go to like a bar or whatnot, but there's like, just like so many degenerate, nasty,
disgusting women there here in America. Most of the time, it's just a lot of white women
that are like college age, white girls that are just completely
absolutely disgusting they should honestly be whoring themselves out with how they act
and also here in america too what can i just come back on that though couldn't it be the media
making it seem that those places are like that i don't think no no no this is personal first-hand
experience that i've had with multiple individuals of this type that i can say from like first-hand
experience there's a reason why the like stereotypes of that is kind of like the case
because for the most part not all of them but i will say for the most part a lot of them are
Because for the most part, not all of them, but I will say for the most part, a lot of them are very, they, they act in that capacity, like a very degenerative capacity.
A lot of the Marines, for example, that I've been friends with, when they come back from Japan, like Osaka, they always are extremely overjoyed.
They're always like, okay, I'm going to get myself an Asian woman.
Like, it's a lot more focused here now on, like, dudes trying to find more respectful women.
now on like dudes trying to find more respectful women because a lot like 1.5 million u.s women
out of like the 300 million population now do only fans so it's getting extremely disgusting
here dude like i know a girl that i went to middle school with that is pregnant
and has an only fans account still up
And has an OnlyFans account.
Still up.
Which is absolutely disgusting.
And it's just like.
What is the kid.
Like if.
If somebody sees this.
From their mother.
You know like.
How badly are they going to get bullied in school.
And things like this.
And this is just like these whorish white women.
That are doing this you know
obviously it's a slim minority of like the people with the only fans but you know a lot of these
whores they don't really even need only fans like think about the uh the amount of sex that goes on
in like thailand with the lady boys and how you said about the trafficking and
stuff. A lot of the time, these people, like these white women, especially they almost traffic
themselves. They get into like abusive, horrible relationships all the time. And then wait till
they're like 40 years old and completely ran through and like barely even fertile to try to start a family but then most of the time the
asian women like you said like they want to be a mother they're happy to be doing things like that
they respect you you know it's just not the same as most of the stuff going on over here in the west now yeah just mentioning about only fans there is
someone i don't necessarily think that a mother using only fans is necessarily immoral
only because only fans is private access it doesn't necessarily mean the access is sexual
someone could do an only fans just of uh record collection, for example.
So if it brings money in, I don't...
I'm sort of trying to defend OnlyFans.
I don't know the specific example, but I think OnlyFans isn't only sexual from what I can gather.
And to be clear, I don't have an OnlyFans account
of anyone or myself, but I kind of like the concept, so I'm not sure if that's...
If her specific one was sexual, that might change it slightly, but...
I'll be back in a second.
I'll be back to talk OnlyFans in a second, I'm just grabbing my...
Sorry.
one of the things with uh in fact in thailand only fans has replaced on the streets prostitution
from what i can gather uh there was like certain areas where if you drove through at night that'd
be like lumpini park is one it's like a central place but you'd see women queuing up on the side of the road, basically, and prostitution.
And since OnlyFans, basically, they don't have to do prostitution because they can sell sexy photos or probably sexual videos
away from the street, basically.
But there's still a lot of different types of Thai people here. So you might get a loving mother, but it's hard to know if they're –
like they might have a different motivation for being with you.
So there's a bit more gray area, I think, than just Thai women are good mothers,
even though they are in general.
are in general uh there's a lot more shades of gray i've found but for me i keep my life simple
There's a lot more shades of gray I've found.
and focus on uh trying to defeat world war yeah i know they i know they have some women there
that like you can pay them to be your wife for like x amount of years too yeah yeah there's quite
a lot of poor people here so there's's definitely, like in East Ham, North Thailand,
Northeast Thailand, yeah, you can basically,
as long as you've got money,
you're going to be able to get a girlfriend or a wife
as long as you've got enough to live off.
So as far as like paying someone to be your wife,
that'd be trivially easy because they definitely do that.
But the relationships don't often work
because of the clash of cultures.
Things like then the man has his room
and then the family basically gets to live,
all of them, with the uncles as well,
in the house of the Westerner,
who didn't think about that.
They thought that they'd have their own house
with the girlfriend, right?
But when the parents come and they don't move out,
that can be end relationships here.
So, yeah, it's not a match made in heaven,
Western Thai relationships, but it is a very good match, I've got to say.
I love Asian girls.
If there are any listening, I'd love to go on a date in the future,
but just not right now.
But I think...
Hello.
I'm an Asian girl.
Hello.
Welcome to the space.
You're with Erg.
I guess you're his wife.
Yes.
What part of Thailand are you from?
America.
I was born here.
Yeah.
My parents
well, my dad is Chinese
born in Bangkok.
He's just genetically Chinese born in Bangkok
and then my mom is from
southern Thailand, Surat Thani. Nice. That's then my mom is from southern Thailand sir at honey
That's where my neighbors are from. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, southern Thailand Thai people are pretty cool
The people from the city are like they're like different types of people
Yeah I don't really They're like different types of people. Yeah.
I don't really...
Yeah, I mean,
the Thai people are
pretty nice to
everyone but their own people
for the most part.
It's fine.
Yeah.
It's okay. We're gonna...
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I just really like being in Bangkok because of the reasons you said, like all the different types of people that are kind of in one place.
Yeah, it's really cool.
I've never been there myself, unfortunately.
Yeah, I just never got to it.
I do need to get a passport.
I'm going to make my husband get one too. We're gonna go there. Don't worry, Thomas, you won the space. Well, yeah, it's conspiracies on Chia. It's open chat,
Handshake. Shout out to the Handshake blockchain H&S, which is where me and Erg met at first. So give a shout out to Handshake H&S and Roy for introducing me and Ergo as well, which I've learned about today a little bit more.
That's cool. Chatted about programmable cubes, some of the recent kind of back and forth Twitter
battles. What's his name? Slesi Satoshi, I think his name is. He's got 200,000 followers. So he
was asking questions about Chia. I went through that. I talked about the red flags of what I think mean that Chia's strings are being pulled,
what that could all mean.
And we've chatted a bit about different topics recently in the last hour.
Thailand and pros and cons of different blockchains, the scams,
infiltration of blockchains, communities, et cetera.
So yeah, it's been a good space.
Hopefully Lurky is listening. of block trains, communities, etc. So yeah, it's been a good space. Hopefully
Lurkey is listening.
The lovely Lurkey. Lurkey,
trigger that keyword. Lurkey,
love you.
Yeah, shout out
to 2bitcoin.org
which I updated on January the 2nd
hey go ahead
I was just pouring myself up
a glass of squirt
a glass of
was that squirt
or whiskey
squirt or whiskey?
Squirt.
It's like some American grapefruit soda.
Oh, okay.
I thought you were having a stiff whiskey or something.
That's what I need right now.
I've had my morning weed.
I've had like three hits of weed,
and I now need like a whiskey to level me off,
but I don't have whiskey. Yeah, the morning, that's what I was going to say,
you know, man, the morning bowls,
and then you get like a shot, shot and a half
to level you off right there,
and then you're just kind of floating
for a good solid four or five hours
throughout the day.
Just nice and happy.
It's like how Bob Ross probably felt
when he was fucking painting
all those beautiful paintings.
He was probably just leveled off
some fine Glenn Fittich
or McClellan scotch.
Yeah, and some
dope.
Just happy
little trees. Happy little trees.
Can't beat Glenn Fittich. I love those
Pete
whiskies. Laphroaig
is... I think Laphroaig double cast was my favorite, but those Pete whiskeys, LaFroigue is,
I think LaFroigue double cask was my favorite,
but I haven't had it for years,
but I don't really drink too much now,
but I smoke more,
but I think weed is better for you long-term anyway,
so that being said,
not if nerve agent is hidden in it by the CIA,
so weed can be bad as well.
I'm not just saying weed is good.
It can be weaponized.
Well, you know, marijuana, you know, the African witch doctors and like the shamans and stuff,
they use it for a malaria cure, believe it or not. Like if you get sick as shit with malaria, like you're just pooping, throwing up all over,
they'll give you uh some
marijuana like they'll just you'll get like smoked out with marijuana because they got so much of it
there like to the point where you're like immobilized like almost comatose when you get
just so high and then they'll just lay you there in a tent because it it stops your nausea and everything too. Like women that have period nausea or like pregnancy nausea
or like problems or stuff like that,
they can just smoke some weed.
Cures it for the most part for them.
Yeah.
I hate that feeling of smoking too much weed
and then you sort of
can't operate. Weed is one of the worst to have too much of so I'm always
cognizant of that.
Especially if you've had psychedelics
before it's almost like a trip. You start almost like tripping
off of it.
I need to find some edibles here. almost like a trip. You start almost tripping off of it. Yeah.
I need to find some edibles here.
Edibles are hard to get.
I think the effect is best,
but it's hard to level the amount out,
and the edibles are super expensive here,
whereas the weed, to smoke it is so cheap it's ridiculous.
I'd say the edibles are about 50 to 100 times more expensive
per gram.
And also often don't have
any effect, strangely.
So often the edibles, not just the 50 times
more expensive, they don't have any effect at all.
So it's hard to rely
on them here, but the weed is like
running tap water
too much sometimes.
Yeah, you just
gotta put it in your oven and
bake it and decarboxylate it it never seems to work would you mind telling me your temperature
and how you might you might you might be like me i can't even get high off of edibles you might just
be unable to get high off of edibles like the only just be unable to get high off of edibles. Like, the only
time I get... I think the problem
is when I decarbi-oxalate it,
I think I'm either doing it too weak
or not strong enough.
Is the bud brown?
Yeah.
It's right, then.
It's right. It's not like
a burnt brown, either.
It's just like a nice, soft shade of brown, correct?
Oh, I'm not sure now.
I may have overcooked it there.
Is it like a very dark, dark brown?
Like a deep, dark shit brown?
Or is it like a nice kind of muddy clay dirt brown?
Now, I think the last two times I've done it, it hasn't seemed to work.
But one time I overcooked it, and the second time I think I did it right based on those two things.
And it still didn't seem to get me high.
Yeah, you might.
You put it in an oil too, right? You didn't just eat the bud after you did that. Did you put it in an oil too right when you you didn't just eat the bud after you
did that did you put it in an oil now let me think that so i decarbiopsulated it so i cooked it then
i put it in brownies did that have oil uh maybe there was no oil in the brownies now you may you may be onto something there
yeah because the thc will bond to the oil the fat and it'll come off of the plant
so next time maybe try stirring it and straining it in an oil as well like let it just sit in an
oil for like eight to ten days and just everything come off of
there and occasionally like stir and shake and then strain the oil out from the plant matter.
And then you'll maybe be able to get something, but I don't know, man, for myself, I know I need
to eat like 1500 milligrams, which is like an entire gram and a half of just pure like
weed bro like not even like the plant matter like a gram and a half like if you equate it to like
wax it's like eating like a gram and a half of wax to actually get high from edibles it just
doesn't work for me it's not scalable it's like programmable cubes on ethereum
it doesn't yeah i could smoke a little bit of weed and i'm perfectly fine but comparatively
like i need to eat like 10 to 15 times the amount to even get high it's very weird
yeah yeah i need to figure it out ideally I could eat so even the gummies
they're made of sweets so then you have to have sweets to consume the thing
smoking is direct but it's it's doesn't quite scale it kind of does but you know
it's not good for you smoking all the time so I know it's not good for me I
should say so what can you do I could just not smoke and get high. That's not going to happen.
So, fact.
Hold on.
I got to come back into...
There we go.
Yeah, I was just
checking my...
Oh, got some new Twitter
notifications.
Yeah, somebody responded to me replying to Charles saying that he left because he audited his Twitter comments.
his Twitter comments and seven out of 10 of them were bots.
Two out of 10 of them were negative and a one out of 10 of them was positive.
So he just left Twitter.
And I said like,
here is a grifter basically like this person is completely insane.
Like he's literally here admitting capitulation that he left Twitter because
he audited his thing and he was just getting fudded to death with just shit. So he just left
because he couldn't even like turn the tide. It was just too much. So he fucking capitulated.
And then this dude says Cardano has better chance of recovery to recover.
Charles leaving X is the smartest thing he could have done to benefit Cardano and the community.
And it's just like a fucking like, dude, is this a bot replying to me?
Yeah.
Like who the heck?
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Like these people are such jokesters.
Either way, he admits that 2 out of 10 were negative,
1 out of 10 was positive,
so still you're getting ratioed, 100% ratio,
on the amount of negative comments to positive,
on average, from your own fucking audit, dumbass.
That's admitting...
Was Charles the one who actually found out
that they were mainly bots
no i think he just made it up is what i'm saying because almost everybody that you see like just
not like pile drives cardano but you know i got a lot of cardano guys that have like the same
sentiment as ergo dudes that's why our communities are pretty strongly aligned ergo just hasn't capitulated like cardano because one of our core devs like he's the founder but not
really like the founder uh kushti he's like a co-founder basically not really though he's more
so like just a core dev he just just made it. He worked with Charles.
He worked with like Chainlink.
He worked with a lot of stuff.
And I personally think he left because he saw how they were so scammy.
And I mean, if you look at the ethos of like what he's created, he's also been like one of the guys that's like help like personally donate to things like really helps fund stuff for the community and everything is like just a genuinely
overall good fucking dude you know he left those communities but still stays on good terms with them
and you know it kind of separated out ergo into something that's like kind of hidden off
little thing in the space i mean we got so much mining hash rate
when the ETH merge happened
because we were like the only other POW
chain left, but it's just not profitable
now for big miners
to be mining.
I mean, it's like...
It's a good time to be a small miner on it, I guess.
What?
I guess it's a good time to be a small miner
on Ergo.
Yeah, I mean, I have some that heat my house during the winter i i run the miners for heat as opposed to like a heater but yeah i mean i've been stacking it since like 2019 2020 I've been I haven't ever really like contributed much to the
community besides kind of like from the background and stuff but I've been around
for a good long while super cool mm-hmm I mean
I'm telling you man like
I think a lot of the
people are going to start discovering
the little hidden chains
and wanting to get off of the bullshit
and all the manipulation
and the fucking rug pulls and everything
and they're going to start moving into
other chains
that are smaller
like like i was saying dude like those cardano guys they have like the same ethos as like me
and you a lot of people with this type of ethos that's why i always recommend ergo to them i don't
want to seem like a shill but like i'm saying I've been in it for like six years. Yeah, it's
down 90%, but realistically, if you look at it statistically from a completely nuanced,
neutral perspective here, the top on Ergo is just one to two weeks. And it's like a hyper
parabolic pump from like 50 cents up to $20, like two or three times in its history. So,
you know, it's not bad that it's dipped so much. It's just a matter of, you know, like
getting a good dollar cost average. So that way you're not buying at the one to two weeks when
it's at $20 thinking that it's
going to pump to a thousand you know like you need to use realistic serious problem solving
here on these types of things and then you got to look at the statistics you got to see
what's happened in the past maybe like the first or second time you know like you might have gotten got but
this thing is pumped like two or three times exactly the same way every time so
you know it's just most likely a matter of time until it happens again a lot of the whales never
even sold at 20 either you know there's like yes I will tell you a secret that a lot of the
OGs know. And this is why I think at the best case, uh, you know, like here that it's most
likely not a manipulated, like secretive pump scam chain because there's a uh
some on-chain investigators like yourself that have done some serious research like how you have
for chia into the extent of everything that goes on there with like the pre-mine and pre-farm
they found out that there's a single whale that was so stupid that he pre-mined or mined 30%
of all of ergo into a single wallet. And then when this guy started reporting about it,
he started splitting it into wallets of four and 5,000 ergos. He had 30% of like 20 to 30% of the whole supply.
He never sold at all when it reached 20.
And we can, we've tracked this guy's wallets.
He's never sold at all.
We think potentially, you know, that this individual may be involved with like Jason
Davies and some of the other people on that front and some Zcash miners or something like that.
But we know it was a big data center and whoever's holding that, they haven't even sold it at $20.
So most likely there's probably going to be a large pump into the future on Ergo.
Because there's severe open interest up at that range for this miner who is mining it.
I mean,
and if they have not dumped it yet and it's down about 90%,
you know,
from the all time high that just goes to show you that it's genuinely
whoever's holding that, even though it was a 95% like community allocation, but somebody happened to like seriously farm a lot of it.
They still haven't really moved it.
It's very, very weird.
Only chain that it's one of the only untouched chains like that i honestly think so i think there's a
serious plan for it into the future by some potentially nefarious entity potentially not
nefarious most likely not nefarious considering that the when they had the chance to they did not
dump the supply onto the community.
And just as you were saying that, I'm seeing the video of Charles talking about the bots on Corey Costa's crypto coins.
Was that the, did you see the same thing?
I wonder if it could. Yeah, see if my comments on there.
I see it.
Yeah, I got it.
Look at this clown admitting capitulation.
I've been on Corey Costa's crypto coins before that it's pretty cool i got on there before charles sorry charles
now he's openly admitting i cut a promo on gene hoffman on it as well now he's openly admitting
he left because he couldn't take the heat from dudes like us who were bots. Ada Circus and Cardano's
clown shirt.
Yep. That apparently
was too much for the North Face
OG who said
no disrespect, but Ergo is cooked.
Cardano has a million times better
chance at actually
recovering. See, so there's
more admission that there's full capitulation here
that what it's recovering from what from the capitulation
these people admit subconsciously what they refuse to openly speak
yeah i like it we don't that's what i'm saying on ergo even though it's down you know we don't have to do
that we don't need to come up with bullshit i mean and even to like the people that like i said
have a huge amount of the supply and stuff still aren't capitulating doing this type of old crap
you know and it's like a pretty good close- close knit community where everybody's working together as a team. And like you, you said to, you know, you've been running around all these communities and stuff, trying to like show off your ideas. And then this is like the first chain that's like, acknowledge like, oh my gosh, this is a freaking genius idea here with a programmable cubes.
This is a freaking genius idea here with the programmable cubes.
Yeah, thank you very much.
I appreciate that.
I'm kind of quietly confident of the idea.
I'm surprised that, I guess, more people don't see it or something.
But then again, I talk about conspiracies.
I've had for a couple of years
and that isn't gonna end you to people who don't want the conspiracies to be true so in a sense i
kind of understand it but yeah it really is the first positive feedback i've had of an idea like
this that seems to be moving forward so i'm really excited to see and with like charles it's like a
snow globe being shaked it feels like everything's up in the air right now.
So Charles could end up in a weekly space.
Well, not if he's quit Twitter,
but he could join the Bitcoin 2 team perhaps.
I did send him an invite to it.
So maybe Vitalik would join the Bitcoin 2 launch team
with Bram yourself.
Maybe we could all host spaces every week.
I don't know.
It feels like this is the year of change though. So I really excited and this is the first space well well sorry to interrupt you
again but it's funny you say that because if you if you map the uh the occult symbology here
you know just uh what's today the 8th yeah january or january 9th for you guys but uh january 7th was actually the end of the
50-year jubilee so every 50 years there's like a year of no work and it's called a jubilee like
a celebration um so if you notice too almost immediately as soon as that Jubilee was over is when the Maduro attacks happened like right
as the Jubilee was ending
so those guys move
in program with
this certain type of thing and
it's funny that you say that because it's like you
can pick up on the cosmic shift
the alignment that's
happening here. Yeah, it's
like the media and the
war machine has become slightly more abstract and
silly, but also slightly more actually happening. And then in the blockchain space, people are
starting to talk out more and it's like things are shifting. So there's definitely synchronicity
going on there. And that means it's more likely tomorrow will bring more synchronicity and next
week even more. So who knows where it's going to peak and
where it's going to lead but I'm sure as
hell excited about it
it's only the first week of the year so
geez
weeks to go
yeah shout out everyone if anyone wants
to chat please come up
I'm going to probably wind the space down in the
next half an hour or see where we go but if anyone wants to chat, please come up. I'm going to probably wind the space down in the next half an hour or see where we go.
But if anyone wants to chat conspiracies, any topic, anything at all, then please bring
it up.
It's recorded and all, so that's good.
It's on the record.
I chatted about some red flags I saw earlier in the space about why I think Chia is to
be questioned at the very least.
It doesn't look cypherpunk to me.
It looks like a Silicon Valley thing with red flags.
So I'm questioning if selling the pre-farm to the community is a good thing.
I've promoted cheer in the past.
I don't want to only promote positivity, though.
I want to be honest so that I'm not misleading people.
So I've seen red flags, and I sure hope Bitcoin, too, could launch with no pre-farm, but that's my summary of the space. Back to you, Erg.
Yeah, I was going to ask you, since you seem to be good at gathering people up and everything,
if you want to start focusing on one thing I've noticed too, and then I can speak about pretty well. And hopefully we
can bring on some other like pretty good starry minded individuals that are like, not necessarily
like enlightened, so to speak, but well put together well thought intellectuals that are
bright minds that attract other like bright minds. So it's like stars pulling in other stars with their gravity
type deal here if you focus on getting um like spiritual uh people like not like saints or
monks or anything but like people that are you know doing spaces like that like podcasts and
then we talk about things like the programmable cubes,
you know, the implications of those from like a spiritual perspective in the blockchain space
to kind of counter all like the conspiracy and scamming and bullshit that's been going on
recently. I feel like that would be a strong cure to be for people to understand how
blockchain relates to kind of like the entire tree of life and the aspect of creation as a whole
where it's like as soon as you put through the transaction you know the process of creation
there is started on the chain where everything starts turning in motion and then eventually
you get the end product as the output TX.
I love that idea of painting it in a spiritual perspective because that's probably going to unite people more than talking about conspiracies in a way.
Because conspiracies shake people up, whereas everyone can agree that looking at something from a spiritual perspective is really, even if you're just discussing it, is thing neutral and so yeah looking at spiritual and not in a cult-like way but like a uh a based
in science you know what are the implications of this and like a scientific all by like religious
spiritual sense like what does this mean in a higher level for myself where reality and everything is a space
and everything is headed because I think that's where like what people try to do in essence when
they get into like an x space or like anything like that they're trying to more so like discover
other people's mindsets and like where things are at. And that's like the whole essence of blockchain, like a shared hive mind idea that's just like expanded upon in with the whole programmable
cubes thing where everybody, you know, like with the hyper connectivity of the internet and
everything nowadays, just exploiting and leveraging the ability of the human mind to be able to connect and learn and just push past its
limits and be able to do things at like a higher level of what we were in the past just day by day.
I think that's a brilliant idea and you set up a future space or sequence with that because
yeah I think that that's a way to go is to bring
spiritual people in and then show them the idea of programmable cubes and sort of see what they
intuitively think about it and get them to talk on it and then it's not divisive it's not conspiracy
based it's like what does this mean spiritually i think it'd be really interesting to hear as well
so yeah kudos to you for that idea.
Have to think of who to invite.
There's a lady in Chia called Futuradora.
She would probably be a good guest for that.
Also, maybe Big Fudd as well. She's pretty spiritual, but I'm sure there's lots of people out there.
She's pretty spiritual, but I'm sure there's lots of people out there.
They're roughly in Chia's ecosystem, so shout out Futuradora and BigFud.
Shout out for Lurky right there.
A Futuradora was going to do something brilliant for the Chia ecosystem.
And when I said before, like the funding and the lack of pre-farm, right, I got this lady.
She's really sexy. Fut future adora if you're
listening i find you sexually attractive i'll be honest but anyway future adora was going to do a
live session in a sauna where she would drink champagne and do a space like for the chia
ecosystem and it would be like a live event essentially essentially. And I had to raise $60 for it to make it happen.
I couldn't even raise $60.
Couldn't even raise $60 to get a hot girl to do a sauna space
to promote Chia's ecosystem.
It's not possible to promote Chia and build it without funding
to do things like that.
Whereas if Bitcoin 2 was out,
someone, Futuradora,
would want to do that because it's good for her brand
to be linked to Bitcoin 2
rather than Chia, which no one's heard of.
So I think that that idea
can come back. But Futuradora,
love you, miss you, hope you're well.
Great idea as well. Spiritual perspectives
on programmable
cubes. a great idea as well spiritual perspectives on programmable cubes
in programmable cubes and also i think the maybe the best line of the whole space was you said
a shared hive mind structure which is what programmable cues could become or is a shared hive mind structure. I think that's a great way to summarize it.
Well, this is,
this is what I think too about, you know, your whole,
what is it? Um, crap. I'm, I'm trying to, it,
it just fricking left my mind one second. I'm trying to think about, oh yeah, the whole like
Bitcoin two thing. Um, I feel like more so you're more enthused with that because
and think that it's going to work out
better in the sense of like okay here is going to be a good community of like people that are
well put together that are able to you know kind of be more involved than your average like idiot
meme coin buyer if if i'm getting it correctly right yeah for sure absolutely because you
anything you build on bitcoin to has the value of the bitcoin name linked to it
and so it it just it it's just it'd be like would you like to be an actor in the Terminator 2 movie? Or would you rather be an actor in the, I don't know,
the Edward Chia film? So who's Edward Chia? I've never heard of him. Like, well, it's
got a great script, but I've never heard of it. Like, I want to be in Terminator 2. Even
if I'm an extra in the scene with the arcade and I'm stood in the background, I'm in Terminator
2. It's like, there's just value there. So with the Bitcoin 2 name, I think people would want to promote it
just because it's got intrinsic value that you can strap to yourself
when you promote it.
So, yeah, I'm very enthused about that.
Well, I mainly think that the strength lies there more so in the community
that you're looking to build than the actual name of the thing.
Well, I think the community would be more powerful because of the name.
It's like a multiplier.
So, yeah, the community is key.
I mean, a brilliant name with no community is pointless.
It's an unknown idea, but I think the community gets...
Oh, yeah, you're saying the name to attract a certain type of crowd.
Well, also, man, too, a lot of those Bitcoin maxis,
I think they're getting kind of fed up with Bitcoin, too, in general right now.
Not Bitcoin, too, but Bitcoin as well in general right now
because I don't know if you heard about the child porn
that has been being put
onto the uh bitcoin network recently no not heard of that yeah that's uh the sick filth that they've
been uploading to the chain that way it could be saved for forever in uh the nft ordinals can you
believe that shit dude that's fucking disgusting that now these they got
literally x a hash amount of hash power protecting this fucking filth on that chain
well they're on about this from bitcoin so because of ordinals and runes basically we're in the
bitcoin removing nftTs from it phase.
Yeah.
They just made them and now they're going to destroy them.
That's what I'm saying, dude.
It's extremely foolish.
That's why, I mean, you know, a lot of people there are getting very sick of it because they realize, oh, fuck, now everybody's uploading all this data and just exploiting the Bitcoin network.
data and just exploiting the bitcoin network yeah i think there's a natural path for those people
to want to at least look at bitcoin too because they could bring their nfts over here
or over there when it would launch it's not launched yet so it couldn't be here but
when it launched it they could go over there so i think there's a natural link for people to want
a bitcoin to with an nft standard to to launch because then it takes the pressure
off bitcoin one it's actually stronger for bitcoin one to keep it simple not everything
has to be done there that's key i think yeah i'm i'm starting to get slightly lightheaded
mainly because uh i guess i haven't eaten much i had had the muffins. So I think I'm going to wind the space down.
It's also the space is peaking as well.
I could keep going for hours.
But I think I'll probably end it within four hours so I can do the lurky recap.
But, yeah, appreciate you coming.
And, yeah, looking forward to chat again soon.
And I'll look into the spiritual perspective and think about how to set that up i'm happy to do that that's a good idea yeah because you know
then then that brings you into another crowd with everything and i think too like how i was saying
and i'm i know you're trying to wrap it up so i won't keep you too long but with people like that
they're so intellectually minded and how you said they're more so neutral on
things. So they'll bring a good, like healing to stuff,
as opposed to like left wing, right wing,
like a abuse perspective or like a manipulation scam perspective for people
just trying to rip you off. Cause because you know a lot of people like that
they're they're seeking to avoid that type of thing and then help heal and help others
that have had that happen to them in the past so people like that you know i think are
are good individuals to get involved in the community. And then also, you know, the ones that don't even know about cryptocurrency, it's so similar
to like a spiritual thing and like the whole aspect of creation in general that, you know,
once you thoroughly explain that to them, I just don't see how they couldn't be at least subconsciously intrigued
enough by it to, if not right then, at least within the next year or two, start looking more
into cryptocurrency and like the implications of it and realizing like where the world's heading
in an esoteric sense involving cryptography privacy you know like quantum security especially
as we head into this new age where they're trying to establish this new world order
like a matrix system you know you gotta learn how to bob and weave as like an old guard, like old soul type
about that kind of stuff.
You don't want to just get
swept up in the chaos.
You got to be like
attuned to it.
Don't get swept up in the chaos.
Bitcoin 2.
Programmable cubes coming soon.
Thanks, Erg. It's been great chatting as always
i really enjoying the chats and let's do it again very soon if that's cool for you
and uh any closing thoughts my man uh yeah just thanks for having me in uh next space that you
have let me know and i'll come back on through my pleasure pleasure. Yeah, thanks for bringing it, my man. You've got a way with words, that's for sure.
Appreciate you.
And yeah, much love, guys.
Let's end the space.
And yeah, check back to bitcoin.org, Ergo Blockchain.
What else can we plug at the end?
Chia.net, maybe a sort of pre-farm thing, weird thing going on.
Still shout out Chia.net.
And yeah, check out the first part of the space
if anyone
tuned in towards the end. But
if you were listening live, I guess
in the background, check out the first half of the space.
I ran through some of my red flags
for Chia based on recent
quudge. So yeah, I'll end on a positive and
say, love you guys. Let's save
the world from totalitarianism. Fuck
you, New World Order.
You're not going to win.
Love will win.
So with that, the power of love.
And chat again soon, guys.
Bye-bye.
Cheers, Eric.
Peace.
Peace. Thank you.
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