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Chill & Shill with frens
Recorded: May 15, 2023 Duration: 1:31:19Space Recording
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Okay, everyone, good evening and or GMGM or GMGN.
Thank you for being here.
Please, if you have anything to share or you're just going to hang out with tonight and share something you are building,
please just ask for a speaker role and I will be glad to give you.
We will just wait for a minute or two for other people to jump in and then we are starting.
I'm saying again, I will be glad to talk with you, learn what you are doing, what are your goals.
Tonight, it was the idea to talk about building the Twitter presence, building our accounts,
how to grow our Twitter accounts and, of course, to shield whatever we are building.
So, just ask for a speaker role and I will be more than glad to give you.
Okay, guys, so let's start it, and I hope others will join us soon.
I am waiting still for one speaker to jump in and join us tonight, but we have enough
people to start, and I'm so glad I see some familiar faces, Seagorm, Royal Mail, Virtual
Bunnies.
Hi, guys.
Hi, everyone.
I'm glad to have you here, and thank you for coming on this space and sharing this time
with me.
So, I was thinking how to start this space.
Basically, what was the first idea is very simple.
I started the kind of CDCAT like two weeks ago, and what was the main idea?
Yeah, it's actually really simple.
I noticed that I'm building this account like in the last year or so, and I really am proud
of the fact that I really managed to do it pure organically.
So, I never bought a follower or use any kind of service that would pump up the numbers and
etc., and what I really noticed is, as more as I was talking with different people, I realized
that many of them have really simple problem.
There are many views about how to use Twitter algorithm to build your profile, to share what
you are doing, to tweak the algorithm, to have bigger reach and everything, but what people
were really complaining to me was that there is complete lack of kindness, and I was speaking
with more than 20 founders in the last two months, and almost all of them agree on a simple
fact, and that is, we need more kindness in space.
So, everything becomes more harder if you are building the project account, because, to be
honest, in the last two years, we were rugged so many times.
I personally was rugged like 10 or 12 times, and whenever I think I learned everything and
that I can be rugged, someone comes and rugged me like a last asshole.
So, basically, people are really, really hard to give trust to the project, and project founders
are in a really crazy position.
I will gladly discuss it further, later, but I really admire everyone who is launching the
project and who approach the Twitter community through the project account.
These people really have a huge burden on their shoulders, and they are not guilty for it
in 99% of cases.
But, on the other hand, there are people who are building their personal accounts, and the
situation is even more crazier, because these guys are in a crazy position in between the
huge influencers, and the middle-range influencers, and micro-influencers.
And, basically, the majority of these people don't pay enough attention to someone who has
10, 20, 50, or 100 followers, and that's basically the other problem, because people are starting
now to build their profiles, and I'm sure that every one of you who are present today have
some kind of goal and some kind of idea about what they do and why they do it today on the
webtree space.
Most of you probably are rating the bull market, and if you are building personal presence,
you are trying to position yourself so you can harness everything you created during the bear market
when the bull comes, if the bull comes ever.
And, regarding the projects, I don't know, guys, what to say.
I mean, I really admire you, and it's really, really hard to launch the project at this moment,
to sell the project, even to do a free mint, because we have complete lack of understanding
what one project can do, and what the webtree project today should do.
So, practically, this was the idea.
My idea was to launch, actually, the Kindness Syndicate, and to build it slowly, because I
have these 10 years in the market communications, in the market experience, not only marketing,
but personal branding, building the brands, building the transition between the brand identity
and brand image, and everything came in the context in the last two years, because I really
realized that webtree is something I want to do professionally.
I switched completely, almost, to the webtree in my agency in the last year and a half,
and the core idea was to do something that will help people, definitely pro bono, without
any money compensation, but to create a common community that will help people build up their
personal profiles and their project profiles.
Why I'm saying profiles?
When I say profiles, I definitely think about the presence.
But in essence, today, when we speak about the key communication channels that anyone in
webtree should use, we are basically speaking about the Twitter, because Discord is okay,
but that's the tool which follows the Twitter.
The Twitter is the main channel for anything you're doing in a webtree at this moment,
and I'm pretty much sure that it will stay that way, because we saw the similar situation
in the bull market, so if you didn't saw already, check my PIN tweet, it's pinned on my profile,
and you will find the link to the Discord and everything, and soon it will probably become
much more serious with some kind of educations and stuff.
But before I continue, Pinwheel asked for a speaker role.
Pinwheel, thank you, and you have a word.
Pinwheel, thank you, Pinwheel.
Hello, hello, hello, everyone.
Hello, Singer.
Yeah, how are you doing?
Since it's Monday, it's not that bad.
Yeah, I was away from spaces for two days.
We had an election in Turkey, so I was really busy.
I had a mission.
Should I congratulate you on results or not?
It's not over, because we have a second tour two weeks later, and I will have a job in
that election voting, and President Erdogan will be elected the seventh time for 21 years.
He's the same president.
Our people love him.
And, yeah, that's my latest situation.
But I am back to spaces.
I set reminders to your space and drop by.
Yeah, and I'm the first speaker, I think.
Yeah, definitely, yeah.
A few bad newbies here.
Hi, hi, mate.
He will join us on the stage soon.
Yeah, great.
Should I wait for people to come in, or can I pin my tweet?
Yeah, definitely.
You can pin it, and you can shill everything.
I mean, we are not rushing anywhere.
We have all the time, so this is the idea to be relaxed and talk about stuff.
I can't tell my latest updates.
As a graphic designer, I am creating these pinwheels, which are reminding my childhood memories.
And recently, I am on six different chains.
Recently, I created some collections on Cardano, Solana, and BNB chains.
And in total, I have created 1,000 pinwheels.
Recently, I also created 3D stuff on object.
I pinned my pinned tweet here.
Please go to my link tree.
You can access all the collections there.
I made so many collaborations, so many donations to SaveTheChildren.org.
Yeah, it's all there.
You can ask for details.
Please retweet, quote, retweet, comment.
I will check the notifications and try to engage with people.
Yeah, if you want, you can ask more questions if you are interested.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, people will definitely raise hands and ask more if they're interested.
Let's say hi to the second speaker.
A few bad newbies.
Hi, mate.
How are you doing?
Hey there, Singer.
I'm so happy to be here.
How are you?
I'm so happy to see you all here.
I'm so happy to thank you for all your support.
You have been so kind to not just me.
I noticed that you support everyone on Twitter.
I'm so proud to follow you.
Even if you didn't follow me back or pay me attention, I admire your tweets.
I admire your style.
I admire your grace.
And I feel blessed to be here.
And when you invited me to the space, it filled my soul with joy.
Joy, sorry.
I'm Mexican and I have an accent.
I hope you all can understand me.
No, that's a beautiful accent.
I understand you perfectly.
Honestly, I'm Serbian.
My accent is crazy.
So I understand you perfectly.
Well, we are the world.
We are the people.
So happy to be here.
Whenever you do have a space, please, please, please invite me, even if it's just as a listener.
Okay?
I enjoy your tweets.
No, no problem.
I have that crazy idea to space on a daily basis and to make them regular because whenever I do it consistently, the more people come and everything.
And then just the life goes in the wrong directions and I postpone it for tomorrow, day after tomorrow.
And then it happens that there is a month without the space.
So my idea was, I think this time is pretty much okay with all the time zones and therapy, but the idea is to do this daily.
I mean, I'm in as a listener.
I mean, to read your space.
Let's retweet the space.
Everybody, let's retweet the space.
You can say there on the arrow, Chervia.
Let's retweet it.
Yay.
One moment.
You're welcome.
Thank you for your support.
Like, you have been so good to me and to many people that you like.
I have followed a lot of people because you like them and they appear there.
And I know that I can trust you.
Thanks.
Really, this means a lot.
What I really like to do is actually share the small insights and everything I learned around the Twitter and around the web tree.
And it really cost me a lot because I was laughing like two weeks ago, there is a website that can measure you how much gas you're spent.
And then I realized that during the 2021, I spent around 68 in a gas.
And so, I really paid for my lessons and paid for every failure.
And I believe that web tree, we all speak about the fact, are we bullish or are we bearish about the things?
Yes, but what is the truth is that web tree is here and web tree proved itself.
And if we don't act in a good manner and if we don't do really a development like it should be done, the fact is that the big companies will enter the web tree and take it for them.
And the same situation happened with the internet somewhere on the beginning on the internet, you have this thing, it's called the declaration of the freedom, where people who were early web one enthusiasts actually created a declaration which saw this kind of a new technology like a complete expression of the freedom.
What happened in the essence is that companies are controlling the web tree.
So, I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
I really think that's a fair market development.
But what I see now and the other thing I would like to discuss, if you guys like it, is what we really expect from the project founders at this moment.
What I really see is that the wider NFT community is not fair to the project founders.
I'm not saying I'm holding only the side of the project founders, but I think I simply choose it for tonight.
We can definitely talk about the community and mistakes the community make and the project founders are making in the upcoming spaces.
But the project founders are in a situation that is pretty much paradox of a sort.
On one hand, you have unrealistic expectations of the community, because at this moment, web tree community is really simple to analyze.
You have Dijons, and these are people who are jumping from the project to the project, basically because of the profit and the quick flip.
And you have newcomers who are also people who learn the stories about the huge incomes and huge profits, and they also want to make a quick profit.
And what these guys are looking at are the successful projects like Azuki, like a board API club, and they are looking at these models, and they are making unrealistic expectations that the new project should be at least as the board API club or Azuki.
There was a crazy situation with OK Bears, which is a phenomenal project on the Solana, and these guys announced the big news, and there was a big hype.
And these guys actually put the announcement where they said, we made the agreement with the toy manufacturer, and one NBA star, I think, bought the OK Bear.
And the community reacted with the food, and that was crazy, because why food?
Because it wasn't a well-known, it wasn't the best toy factory that made the agreement, and it was not the top NBA star, I mean, like Jokic, who actually jumped in the project.
So these are these unrealistic expectations.
That puts a huge pressure on the founders, because it's not easy to make agreement with the sports star.
It's not easy to make agreement with the company.
I mean, creating a company that would function like a traditional company and being in Web3 is actually a huge job.
So practically, this is one point of pressure on the founders.
The other point of pressure is that nobody helps you launch a project.
If you create the Twitter of the project, people will really rarely interact with you, because people learn the lesson that many projects are direct pools, and they don't give a fuck, they don't trust anymore.
I understand this point perfectly.
And on the other hand, the launchpads from the big marketplaces, like Magic Eden, OpenSea, these guys will tell you if you want to launch a project on the launchpad, because that's a perfectly valid point, because why I want to launch my project to the launchpad, because it generates the traffic.
And the traffic is the key to sell something, of course, along with the complete product.
But if you have a great product, and you don't have traffic, you don't have visibility, and you are practically fucked up.
But if you apply for a launchpad, these guys will tell you, okay, but we want your social proof, we want a huge social presence.
They will practically ask you to build the projects that can sell without the launchpad, in order to put you on the launchpad, which is actually crazy, because these guys want to be perfectly sure that you will give them the profit.
So practically, at that point, I really hate to be in a scheme on the founders.
And I participate in the two projects.
One is Soul Squatters, which we give up to put it on the Solana, for the same reason, because the marketplace, at that moment, during the end of the last year, didn't have understanding for it.
And at this moment, it's really hard to maintain the team, but we'll probably launch it as a freemint.
And the other project is a game, which is in development for over the one year.
It's almost finished now, and we will definitely try to go on the OpenSea launchpad.
But there is a huge problem which says, okay, how are we going to build a community in order these guys accept us?
That's only one pile of the problem.
Okay, I know how I will do it.
Probably I will use my profile and everything to promote it as much as I can.
But even with the 12K organic followers, when you tweet something that is project-related or requires any type of the conversion, you will see that you have significantly lower engagement.
So practically, these are the basics I wanted to discuss.
A few bad newbies, are you there?
I suppose you want to share something from your experience.
And after you, let's go and hear Sigourg.
Hey, everyone.
How are you, Sigourg?
I'm doing great, mate.
How are you?
I'm good, thank you.
I am the founder of Galactic Council, actually.
We are a PFP project, but I am building the metaverse, actually.
Not like the metaverse.
We are trying the Web2 and Web3 connection.
It's like a stream platform, I mean.
I'm going to quick tell about this, actually.
You know some Steam platform games, Twitch platform, actually blocking the Web3 games.
That's the problem for us, because we are creating the huge economy in that space.
But they are always blocking us.
And now we are trying to connect the Web2 and Web3, actually, in the same game.
It's possible with the Unreal Engine, because they actually, they didn't say, but they are giving some tip about this.
Because they are always supporting the metaverse and other game, I mean, other RPG game, anything.
They are always supporting about the Web3, but they are not saying, actually.
The problem is some game companies, they are not sharing their game engines, actually.
And now Web games are attacking everyone right now, because they are blocking the system.
It's really a problem for us, because we are developing some huge things within Web3.
I'm not talking about myself.
I'm talking about the whole Web3 games.
They are blocking us.
But now we are trying to connect with some interesting economy for the Web3 to Web2, actually.
It's the problem, they are always blocking, but it's no problem, because Epic Games is supporting us.
I am developing this game solo, but this PvP side, we have a team about this.
Just for sure, in these days, I mean, when I'm sharing goodnight tweets, okay, I can start to develop the game non-stop.
Because I separate my life like that, I mean, okay, today I'm sharing my NFTs.
And, oh, okay, goodnight guys, I need to go work about the game.
And also, I want to say about the pin, pin well, yeah.
I really like your art, and this is my first space with the singer, actually.
I grabbed your two-piece.
It's really cool.
Thank you for this meeting, singer.
I saw some great artists here.
You're welcome, Eitan.
I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad you shared in the rock sketches what are you doing.
I'm sure you can talk much more about it, and we will have probably a time for that.
Yeah, I will definitely try to do this regularly, especially because so many people...
Actually, I think everyone here is doing something in the web tree.
So, practically, we're not having a situation where, practically, we all are builders of the sort.
It really doesn't matter if you're building your personal profile, your project, your art, or anything.
But, definitely, I really have an impression that every day, or when I'm searching the timeline, everyone is trying to do something.
So, let's talk about that.
What are you guys trying to do, and what problems are you facing?
Definitely, there is a problem of a lazy market, and there is not...
The cash flow, the crypto flow on the NFT market is much more conservative right now.
People are really...
Don't like...
They are not eager to buy new projects.
And we all...
I mean, we all.
I say this figuratively, but we all are guilty for that.
Because, really, I don't know how many of you were here in 2021, but it was a huge mess.
You really...
We basically destroyed every last trace of a sense from any kind of a promise.
We had a situation where we had Blizzard developers, Disney developers.
I mean, I like to say this, but in one moment, I think only janitors from Disney
weren't involved in some kind of the NFT projects.
Everything was a huge madness.
And practically, people were rugged.
So, it's conservative.
But I think I saw somewhere before this space started that one board ape today has been sold
for $1 million.
And so, money is still here.
I didn't have time to check this, but I think the guy tweeted something like,
I accidentally sold the board ape for $1 million.
What floors should I swipe?
So, definitely, I think he put that price thinking that nobody will buy it, but someone bought it.
So, we are definitely not dead.
NFTs are not dead.
But I think we have a huge gap with the uneducated market, unrealistic expectations, and limited
possibilities.
Marina, please, go on.
Thank you, Singer.
Well, it's very interesting because I'm actually not in the web free, but when I was in Bye Bye
Nicotine, my previous account that I lost because I went to a manic episode.
And I don't know if any of you follow me in Bye Bye Nicotine, but I was 18 days on an institution.
But I just got an offer to work as a moderator in a web tree.
And I was too busy because I'm writing a novel in real time called Bad Shit Crazy.
It's free for you to read if you want.
And link, I'll put it on the conversation.
It's really interesting.
It's about this girl that is a virgin at 21, and she's haunted by the shadow people.
And it's relatable because I have been haunted by the shadow people all my life.
So, I used part of it.
But when growing up, I was always bullied because I wasn't as beautiful as my friends.
And, well, that was that.
But I got over it.
You know, it's okay not to be beautiful as the standards of the world.
I don't care about that anymore.
Anyway, but this girl, she is as beautiful as you can imagine.
And I'll put the link.
It has 12 episodes.
It's free.
It is always going to be free.
I do want to create an NFT collection of the characters.
And if anyone wants to start, I, unfortunately, I'm right now waiting on my sponsor's sponsorship.
I'm Mexican.
I studied international relations as a major in Mexico.
And then didn't like the diplomacy or politics.
And then I decided to be an English teacher.
Went and got my diploma to be an English teacher.
Was in public schools for 10 years.
And then one day, one kid out of nowhere just told me that he was going to kill me.
Like, I'm going to kill you.
And I took it as a joke and went home and told my parents.
And my parents were like, no, no.
You cannot be in Mexico anymore.
Go to Canada and study education.
That's what you like.
We will support you.
So I came to Canada and I studied early childhood education.
Unfortunately, because as many people, you know, I suffer from bipolar disorder.
And I started using, again, POT.
And I dated the incorrect person and, again, went to another episode.
But this ended up in psychosis.
This was before the pandemic.
So I left Twitter for two years.
I used to be, in 2011, kind of big in Twitter in Mexico.
Pop stars would retweet my silly ideas.
And, well, anyway.
The thing is that as soon as my work permit comes, I would like to start an NFT collection of the characters of Bad Shit Crazy.
If you read it and if you have the time, I promise you that it's better than Euphoria or anything else.
It's a little bit of American horror story.
A little bit.
But better.
No shot de pity.
It's truly from my soul.
You know, my husband, I married, his name is William the Koenig.
But he's William Shakespeare because he helps me edit it.
My first language is Spanish.
Thank you for all the hearts, Ira.
I'm going to follow all of you.
You don't have to follow me back, okay?
But I will follow everyone.
And just read it if you have the time, okay?
And just for yourself, if it's good enough to create an NFT collection of the characters, okay?
Because I say, like, the descriptions are very general.
Like, she's beautiful.
But I don't say, she has brown hair or blonde hair.
It's in your imagination.
Like, what is beautiful to you?
You find your own beauty and you, I call it a screen novel because it's like in your, it has only 12 episodes and I'm taking a, it's every Friday supposed to be a new episode.
But I didn't, I'm taking a, because I was just in a psychiatric hospital, left two weeks ago, taking a little mental break, but going to continue in two, three weeks, the next episode.
Okay, I'm just going to link it and thank you for listening to me.
Thank you for sharing this.
I personally think that this is a good road to go because especially when the, when the, when the literature is in case, is in case and stories, if you really build the world and give it the time, just create it when you feel you, you, you, you, you, you, you are comfortable to do it.
I, from a personal experience, I, I wrote a few collections of a short stories and managed to publish it and everything.
Whenever I put the pressure on myself, like I have a deadline, like does do a chapter weekly or anything, I never managed to do it.
So practically take all your time.
The market is relaxed right now, but your approach to build the world, to involve the people into the story and then offer NFT is a brilliant one.
And I really mean it because, uh, storytelling is, uh, is, is of a huge importance in everything we do in the web tree, but that's, that's, uh, pretty much a big topic.
I would like to talk about that on a, on a separate space.
Uh, I want to say hi to Manda.
He's here actually in the speakers.
Manda, what's up, my bro?
Hey, singer.
How are you?
I just, I invited you actually to share your experiences.
We had the biggest European web tree conference held, uh, I think, uh, in the last two days in the Belgrade.
It's actually a tech tech conference, but the main topic of this year was a metaverse and, uh, artificial intelligence.
Am I right?
Yes, you're totally right, and I would say it was impressive, but I would also add that people was sarcastic when it comes to the AI and skeptic because, uh, many of the, let's say, lawyers and the legal advisors was, uh, there with, let's say,
okay, okay, we are going to use the AI, but look, it's going to cost us in many, many various ways because it's not regulated yet, and probably we can't do whatever we want.
And, uh, I would say that, uh, it showed up as good because we have seen some of, uh, really cool AI projects.
For example, we have seen the interception of, uh, NFTs and the AI because, uh, one marketplace from Dubai came up with the idea that they want to promote the NFTs,
but if you want to meet it up on their marketplace or you want to showcase it or whatever, you need to go through process to validate that it is AI generated.
So the process is their little secret, but it's something that may brings up value to all the people that have been exploiting and experimenting with the mid-journey and similar stuff,
because even if it is AI generated singer, you would agree that the mid-journey can produce some extremely good stuff and that it can be useful to the creators in the end.
Definitely. I'm more bullish on the mid-journey than I was on the chat GPT, uh, and it's really simple.
Mid-journey came up with a brilliant engine and I produced some photos in the last two days that I'm able to, uh, put into use in the agency to the clients.
So basically, uh, I'm going into the Bosnia tomorrow. No, pardon me on Wednesday. I have a panel. There is a social media summit in Sarajevo and I have a panel on, uh,
I have a lecture on a Thursday and panel on the Friday. And the topic of the panel, one of the, one of the questions will be, will the AI content overflow social channels?
And what will really happen, uh, how, how we can negatively or positively impact the, the, the, the, the creative business, actually creative sector.
I don't think that AE will overflow anything. Uh, we are living in a times where we are, where there is a content overflow, like in the last 20 years, since, since the beginning of the web too.
I mean, in the web too, you give the power to the people to produce the content. So everyone who wants to say something, who wants to express himself or herself may go on a social channels and put anything he or she wants.
And, uh, we have significant amount of the content in the last 20 years. I don't think that mid journey will produce more content. It will raise the quality of the content, but everything will be the same.
We have a stock image, uh, websites, uh, since 2004, I think. And people are going there, they're buying the content and they're putting the content on the social networks or I don't see what will, what will, what will essentially change.
I mean, I probably see that stock websites will be pretty much endangered right now because today for a $30 per month, I can produce unlimited number on the, of the photos in the mid journey, not that good as a professional photography at this moment, but that will change.
So I think the, uh, every attack and it's same in life. Whenever someone attacks you or attacks anything, uh, the fear is in the background, some, some kind of the fear.
So I think it happens right now. People are attacking AI. Uh, I don't think AI will took our jobs like South Park. They took our jobs. I don't think, I don't think nothing crucial would happen, but, uh, people are attacking AI probably with some fear as a reason.
And we will see how the things will go on.
Yeah, I would agree. I would like to say that people are maybe scared right now of the AI because they're not much educated. They do not know anything about that.
They have seen that some people are using it to get deliverables for their clients. They are making money. They are hyper producing. And I would say that it will disappear as hype.
It disappears. And that in the future, the AI will be just, uh, used as a tool, such as any technology. We have had multiple industrial revolutions and, uh, we had the stone tools revolution in the past.
So it was all the technologies that were innovations for the people that were living in that time, but it wasn't them up on them, how they will use it or not.
So probably can just bring up more quality to the market, just as you said. So probably I'm not scared of the AI.
I just think that people will get known well to the AI and the AI may become the tool that they will use more often in their everyday jobs than they are using maybe some Photoshop or some other tools today.
So definitely AI will bring up something new, but I do not think that it will take over our jobs.
Yeah. I, I, I really hope that we are not, uh, we will not be ended homeless, like in a six months.
And remember this talk, but because AI will take everything, but, uh, jokes aside, I'm, I'm a really bullish on AI.
And I think we didn't have disruptive technology of this sort since the smartphones.
And it, it would really be interesting to see what applications, uh, it would be the most interesting thing will be when the traditional business incorporated in its processes.
And that's basically the, the moment where we will definitely see what's going on.
I don't think that many of traditional roles will disappear this soon.
Uh, I think we are just astonished by the level of the production AI can deliver right now, especially I'm talking now at the mid journey, but let's take a step back from the point of traditional marketing.
If I am doing campaign for one brand, uh, I will hardly build visuals in a mid journey.
It's really simple.
When you are doing a creative campaign for a brand, you need to respect the guidelines.
You need to, to, to, to, to position a key visual and then to follow the, the old guidelines for a campaign and produce the tones of the materials.
And practically you can't really do that when you are generating four AI photos and do a couple of variations with really limited, uh, from this point of view, uh, capabilities of prompts.
So practically, I don't think that traditional jobs are going anywhere right now, but I think that they, I can really support them and make some processes easier to us.
So yeah, that's, that's basically a few cents.
Okay.
Uh, speakers, I see you, please, uh, jump in, raise a hand.
Uh, I, I can talk, uh, too much and I would like to hear all of you.
If you have to say something, present something.
Artnas, go on.
Welcome.
Hi, singer, singer, and all the, uh, friends.
Uh, yes.
I want to say something about this topic.
I, um, I'm a traditional artist and, uh, watercolor, especially.
And, uh, at first that AI came to the space.
I, um, I was sad a bit because, uh, I told myself why should I spend too much materials and spend, uh, too much money for these materials and, uh, put a lot of time for that.
Uh, but, uh, gradually I, uh, I realized that, uh, I can use AI, uh, for my, uh, traditional art.
And, uh, as I, um, I want to show you something.
I, um, use some AI for my models and, uh, we can use it in any good ways and, uh, take the advantage of that, uh, because, um, AI is like the first time that, uh, um, uh, photography came to the space.
And, um, all the painters thought that, uh, when photography came and camera came and, uh, they, they don't, uh, paint again, but, um, a lot of good ideas came to this space.
And, uh, um, you know, painters, uh, come out from the, uh, making art just realistic.
The, um, impersonism, expressionism and all the other arts, um, released after that.
And the good ideas came to the minds.
So, uh, people can use AI in a good way.
Uh, as you see, I painted one of my, uh, friends AI work with my traditional painting.
And I'm sure in the future, so many good things happen with AI.
And we can use and mix them together.
So, uh, if you want to check my pin to eat or my watercolors, you can go to my foundation and non-origine.
And thank you for giving me time to speak.
And I think it's the first time I'm near the speaker and I followed you.
Thank you friends for listening to me.
Thank you for joining us.
Uh, yeah, I, I really look positive on the art at this moment.
I think that, uh, I think that art has, uh, maybe the best chances to generate the public right now.
I, I, I'm still, uh, half of my heart lies in the teams which are trying to build the businesses and sustainable business models on the web tree.
But the other half is definitely with the art community.
I was speaking with a friend from, from Italy this morning, and I know him since I basically entered the web tree, which was somewhere at the end of the 2017.
And, uh, he's really talented writer.
And I never knew that he has, uh, affinity to the, to the, to, to the art and actually to the, to the painting and to the illustrations and stuff.
And he started to experimenting with a mid journey and actually use the, that thing with, which, which, which, which mid journey produce and, uh, illustrates upon that.
So he, he doesn't have enough skills to produce it from a scratch, but it really helped him to make some really good works.
And which is most important.
I see that he's happy.
It, it really, it really, the, the, the, the, the art, any creative output actually is great for our wellbeing, mental health and everything.
And when you add the community on top of that, which is definitely here, you have a winning combination.
And at, upon all of that, if we all get some, I don't know, a few dollars, few 10, 20, 30, 50, I don't know anymore.
Tezos is a marketplace that there, there is really not expensive art.
I, I know I, I, uh, was not active there, but.
I mean, the art now is really affordable in general.
And the, the most beautiful thing, we really have a great artist here.
We have a sparring artist and a.
Um, is it me or singer is right back for you?
We are leaving.
Hi, I think I heard someone.
Sorry, I was speaking.
He's definitely ragging.
Yes.
Um, singer, singer, your voice is ragging.
Hey, it's from here.
Uh, your voice is ragging.
So we couldn't hear most of the things you said.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Is now better?
Now better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Probably, probably the connection or anything.
Yeah.
Thank you for not letting me know this.
I was just speaking that the, the art at this moment is, uh, we are basically making a history.
And, uh, many people who are creating art now, right now will probably build the careers in the future.
And it's great moment actually to do all of this.
Okay.
So in case I'm ragging, I will just, uh, impose echo.
Hi mate.
You raise a hand.
Um, hi singer.
I think Marina raised her hand before me.
Before me.
So I will say ladies first, if it's okay for you.
Sure.
Absolutely.
Marina.
Sorry about that.
I was just, I just got an idea.
Like singer.
Do you have a discord?
So all the people here that we are fans of you, we can join your discord.
If you can just put it on the end of the conversation.
Yes.
Uh, it's actually on the pin tweet.
You will see, I pinned the tweet, the kindness syndicate.
And, uh, this tweet explains the whole idea and you will find the discord.
Please make it easy for me because I'm also like juggling between Instagram.
Sure.
Uh, I will, I will, I will drop the link in the comments, but it's, it's on the end of the, of the pin tweet, but I will drop it also in the comments here.
Thank you so much.
That was, that was it.
Uh, that was my commentary.
That was why the reason that I raised my hand.
Thanks.
Okay.
Let's go.
Uh, and Pozeko you're, you're now and then a few bad newbies.
Hi singer.
Um, once I see like Sigourm is in the room, I just want to come and say hi.
And I hear this lovely discussion here.
I see Artan's here.
Also Eve is here also lots of familiar faces in the room.
So, so nice to be in your space.
It's my first time.
Actually.
I just love this topic.
Like, like chill and chill with your friends.
And regarding the discussions that we have here.
Um, I would like to add a couple of points.
Uh, first of all, let me introduce myself.
I think it's important.
It's Mpozeko.
I'm a self-taught NFT artist.
I've been into NFT space more than a half and a year actually.
So it has been a long journey.
I enjoy every moment of it.
Like, uh, I, everything was for me, mainly the bear market.
And I'm glad that I survived.
First nine months, uh, singer, I had almost zero sales.
Yes.
I'm telling you like zero sales for the first nine months.
But then my art was discovered by non-origin.
I know I got accepted to non-origin and I made over 1000 sales in the last six months,
actually, and, uh, entered as a hall of fame artist there.
So I'm really proud of it.
You know, featured by Mokta.
Wow.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
You should be proud.
Congratulations, man.
Thank you, singer.
You know, featured by Mokta.
I had in my real life exhibition in Rome, in Italy and in London, UK.
So, so, so far, so, you know, so good for me.
Like it's a dream coming true for me.
And as you just mentioned, like, we are still in the early stages, singer.
Uh, I, I'm, I'm looking at this perspective and this is like how I feel.
We need to grow this community together, um, while supporting each other.
And there are always challenges here in front of us as an artist or as a collector, you know,
it's not easy.
Like the gas fees is high, et cetera, so on.
So recently I discovered Tezos actually.
Normally I was on the Ethereum chain and because of these minting fees, et cetera,
which was not affordable at all.
I tried to give a try on object, which is that Tezos marketplace.
And like, I put my true collection there immediately sold out.
Uh, right now one is left.
Uh, I also pin it there in the top.
You will see the details.
There's only like three additions left there.
I think this is the experience that I had, singer.
You know, uh, you need to do all amount that I've paid for creating or, you know, creating
a collection or minting or, you know, this wallet, et cetera, was less than a dollar on
Tezos.
I was pretty surprised actually.
I didn't expect that.
And what I see here also the secondary market is bigger.
What I see in the Tezos, like I see all of them, my primary addition started to receive
like offers in the secondary market.
So it's a good thing also from the artist perspective and also from the collective perspective.
So I would like to share my experience with you and everybody in the room.
And if you have any comments regarding my art or, you know, regarding the things that I said,
I would like to also happy to answer that.
Uh, definitely great story.
I'm so glad to hear this.
Uh, I had a similar thinking.
Uh, I, I, I completely agree with your, how you resonate the thing because this really
is not about the price.
I think the feeling when you sold your collection is incredible.
That's, that's basically the validation of, of, of, of anything you do.
And there is no better feeling.
I mean, having a thousand conversions is a huge.
And, uh, what I was thinking about when I started to think how to shift myself completely
to the web tree before I realized it would be definitely a painful process in the terms
of earnings, uh, that I, I can't really abandon the web two dimension.
I had that luck because the, these two chemisphers in my life are pretty much integrated.
So I don't feel it like I am doing something, uh, opposed to, to, to, to something else.
But what I, my first idea a long time ago was, okay, I'm doing a great consulting in the real life.
I have a clients in the real life.
I work with brands.
I almost work in the whole industries.
Now I will work with the web three market and I can do a consulting for a project for a personal
branding stuff, et cetera.
But in the reality, uh, you have to analyze your market really good.
And, uh, people here can't afford, uh, to give you $500 for, uh, I don't know for a 200 hours
of the consulting.
It's, it really doesn't matter.
The people here are starting to chase their dreams from the scratch.
And when someone is chasing their dream from the scratch, you can inspect to approach it
by the standard market rules.
It's completely different when you are approaching with the company, which works like five, 10
years and have a portfolio of brands or services.
And when you are speaking with the people, I say again, we all some, someone call us digins.
Someone call us newbies, noobs, uh, crypto Twitter, NFT Twitter.
But, uh, all I see here are people who are trying to make their dreams come true.
Uh, and, uh, that I see people who's based on their talent, uh, in a bull market.
Uh, many of these dreams are based on a quick profit and the results will be there.
So what I realized with my whole consulting idea and everything is that I will definitely
be free in this and what really I do with each founder.
I spoke with, with each space, with each interaction and everything comes in place.
Who knows?
Maybe, I don't know the Twitter model with the, with the, I'm speaking basically from the
perspective of people like me who based their operations on Twitter page, supporting people
and everything, trying to do some, some kind of the educations and everything.
The Twitter model with the pay tweets is actually a brilliant model that can benefit
the whole Web3 community.
Why?
Because you have the opportunity to monetize your content for a reasonable price, like
$5 per month.
And $5 per month is something that you spend when you go on a coffee with the friends.
I mean, almost in the, in, in, in the, in the old corners of the globe.
I mean, the coffee and the mineral water is probably around the $5.
And you have the opportunity to support your favorite creators.
$5 per month.
And in the engine that you have a 300 people who support you with the $5 per month.
That's not something that you should ignore.
And that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's not a life changing
money, but it's definitely the money that can buy a time for these people to create even,
even the more, the better, better quality content and everything else.
So practically I'm very bullish on that.
I really want to see how that will impact the people like me, how that would impact the art artists.
Because I, I really think the, let's not forget one thing when the art, when we speak about art,
art launched the NFT in the mainstream.
And that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that's basically the fact.
I mean, people was the first, the, he was the first guy who, who, who, who, who, who penetrated the, the, the mainstream.
And before people, before people, there was a Murat Pak or pack just back.
Uh, not many people are referring to him right now, but he's the guy who sold most expensive NFT on the world.
It was his collection merch and he's the guy who introduced the people to the NFTs.
So practically art shaped the space.
We know, uh, I will let you have words.
So I think we didn't have opportunity to, to hear the key visuals.
And after that art must raise the hand.
Uh, but, uh, sorry, I just wanted to say I have to go and be sure.
Thank you for being here.
Yeah.
Thank you so much for your nice conversation and accepting.
Bye.
Bye.
Have a great dinner.
And I see other people raise the hands, but for some reason, I never saw this earlier.
I have zero open spots.
Now, Tammy, welcome.
I can approve you, but I didn't notice earlier that there were limited open spots for speakers on Twitter spaces.
Probably.
I was never a situation to have as many of you with the speaker.
Sanger.
Sanger.
Add up.
Make his own co-host and then you can have additional speakers.
You can have up to 15 speakers if you have three co-hosts.
Yeah.
I miss that.
Definitely.
So if I add a co-host, we will have more spots, right?
Yes.
Sure.
Exactly.
And I will also switch back to listening, Sanger, to open up the space for other amazing artists
so that they can also come and enjoy the discussion here.
I will just switch back to listening.
Thank you for this space.
Thanks for being here.
And thank you for this great story.
Hello?
I just read your...
I see you on Twitter all the time.
I've never came in your space before, but I just read your Kindness Syndicate manifesto, or at least that tweet, and I really like the idea.
I just wanted to say good job and keep going.
I'm glad you like it.
I'm still not sure.
I think I put myself in a huge problem with the Kindness Syndicate before, because if you start something, you need to do it.
The moment when I tweeted that, it was like a week and two weekends ago.
It was something that I really, really, really planned for a long time.
But I was not sure is that the right moment because everything I'm doing in real life and everything.
But it's never the perfect moment.
So I decided to go with the flow to build this community slowly.
And I think it's going in the right way at this moment.
So practically no huge promises.
But the only thing that I can promise actually is that I will do my best to help all these guys.
You bad newbies.
I see your raising hand.
Are you here?
You want to jump?
I am here.
Yes, I am.
Sorry.
No, you're fine.
For some reason, I always keep you.
So please go on.
No, sorry.
If it's easier for you, man.
My name, my real name is William Simmons.
I'm actually the owner, founder and developer of A Few Bad Newbies.
So just in case it's easier for you for future reference, William or Bill would suit rather than my whole name of A Few Bad Newbies LLC.
Right.
But to that end, I'd like to hopefully talk to you and everyone else here about my project, if you guys don't mind.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, definitely.
I just want to make a quick introduction.
What you did, I had the opportunity to hear about this earlier, but you did a really brave approach and practically you registered the company, right?
What really makes a difference with your project is that you are practically trying to build a business model that will connect Web 2 and Web 3.
Well, it's a little more extensive than that, actually.
It's almost like advanced plumbing that you wouldn't expect to look so pretty.
And what I mean is A Few Bad Newbies is, yes, now a legal New York LLC, which is something that I'd like to see more Web 3 brands turn into, you know, actual businesses.
That is the dream after all.
But more than that, our approach is to flip the financial delegation that is common in Web 2 world and Web 3 world upside down.
And what I mean is instead of walking on people who make something successful and basically giving them pennies on the dollar as the man who and woman who makes something possible, reap all the benefits and all the financial attributes that go along with it.
I'm trying to flip that upside down. And if you look at like Walmart, for example, right, the CEO of Walmart, the one who created the whole chain is making billions of dollars every year and just just collecting money because he owns something that's really cool and everyone uses it.
Good for him. But people that make it successful, like the employees are getting minimum wage, barely living paycheck to paycheck.
It's really a disgusting world we live in. And sometimes it's not even enough for people to get by.
And that's not a normal everyday job, no matter where you are.
But here in Web 3, we're doing the same thing, right?
We have royalties, which is going to be a normal thing.
But if you really sit down and think about it, if a creator puts out a collection of 10,000 NFTs and each one sells for $5, that creator initially made $50,000 on the sellout, which is cool.
Good for him. Good for her. Good for them. It's a great effort. I'm really happy as a success, right?
But for the collector to make money, they have to in turn sell the NFT and that gets the creator more money with the royalties that are in play.
On average, it's a 10% royalty. So for every $100, the creator is making $10 off of that sale, that resale.
So you as a collector, you're making $100 and you do that 10 times in a week, you made $1,000, you're a happy person.
But unbeknownst, without even thinking about it, you're actually helping these other people throughout the week that you're flipping these projects on make $10 each sale that it happens.
And for example, the initial creator makes $50,000 upon sellout. And then that same 10,000 NFT collection, if they all resell for $100, which is how floor price rises up, because you make money that way, right?
Then they get $10 every sale. So 10 times 10,000 is $100,000, right? So you just now contributed to the creator making $150,000 because you made $100.
That to me, that whole mathematical equation, how things work in the real world and the web three are backwards. I don't like it. It needs to change.
So my approach to the business plan benefits the NFT holders, every step of a growing foundation and every which way you actually get more money than I do at the end of the day.
And it's an ROI that NFT holders can control. You know, I'm talking like 50% of the ad monetization, 50% of the merchandise profits, 20% of the NFT sales, 20% of the online casino bet losses, and 35% of our MMO video game revenue all goes back to a revenue pool specifically for the NFT holders.
And each NFT acts as an equal share of this revenue pool. So unlike traditional NFTs, you have to sell to make a profit on and sell to make money on, you hold this to get all the benefits to get access to this money pool, to get access to automatic raffle systems.
And I also pinned this up top of Megatron, so you can follow along. The automatic raffle systems goes as follows. Once every 100 NFT sales, we're giving away $1,000 by wallet address.
So right now, there's another 88 NFTs available before we draw our first $1,000 winner and pay $1,000 to a random NFT holder of ours.
At this point, if you onboard in the first phase, you actually have 1,000 opportunities to win $1,000, and yes, you can win multiple times.
The additional raffle we have is at half our supply release, and then again, full supply release, we are giving away a package prize.
One winner at full and one winner at half supply will each win $10,000 cash, a brand new, fully decked out Tesla Model Y, and one year of car insurance for that Tesla in the winner's name.
If in the event that your territory, region, province, or what have you prohibits this, then the consolation prize is $125,000.
Now, all of this is paid for out of the creator royalty pool.
If you were to go to our website at AFBN.me and click on the revenue sharing icon, it'll bring you right to all the analytics, the tokenomics, and how everything is broken down.
It explains every phase in actual explicit detail of what we're doing and how we're doing it and why we're doing it.
Because at the end of the day, we are going from phase one through six, rewarding our NFT holders every step of the way from making it possible.
Because we are going to be changing the world with the clean energy movement.
But I also want to keep in mind and let you guys know that we have allocated, announced, I should say, 10 separate charitable causes where we are donating 12.5% of our marketing and development pool to these 10 separate charitable causes equally.
So every step of the way, are we not only benefiting the NFT holders, we're also going to try to make a worldwide difference immediately and a worldwide difference long term.
This is going to be the kind of digital asset once we register with the SEC by phase two that you'll be able to hold on to for the rest of your life and legally sign over in a will without having to worry about, you know, wallet and this, that, and the third.
You'll be able to sign it over to somebody and say, this is yours now, you know, after a lifetime of benefits made you happy, healthy, and wealthy.
But this is a few bad newbies.
And if you don't want to take part in our optional business plan, we do have a completely free foundation for you to stand on.
We have free anime, free competition ladder system, worldwide and multi-platform free streaming network.
So you can either upload your current embed, whether it's from kick, Twitch, YouTube, Facebook, you name it.
You can put it on our website for the additional views and the boosts or you can use our free browser games.
We've partnered with the radio station so you can listen to radio 24 seven.
And believe it or not, we actually also have merchandise in Walmart at this very moment.
So if you go to walmart.com, no matter what part of the world you live in and type in our name, a few bad newbies, LLC, you'll see 60 of our products available for you to purchase.
Just want to throw that out there because also those merchandise sales goes into the NFT pool as well.
So it's not just one marketplace or another.
It's all merchandise sales at 50% of the revenue goes into that pool.
So this is truly a utility you control with every step benefiting you, this business plan built around you and for you.
And I really hope that we can change the world together.
Thank you for this.
I'm sure people will read more in a pin tweets and it's really super interesting.
And there is so much of that interconnected.
So probably, I really, really, really, really like what you do.
Pat, please go on.
Welcome.
I just wanted to go off the point that you said about how it's kind of backwards, the whole system.
I think you referenced Walmart, for example.
And I agree with all that.
I don't really know the answer to the question I'm about to ask, but it's definitely something to keep in mind.
So Walmart employs hundreds of thousands of people and, you know, giving back to your holders and rewarding people for holding an NFT is great.
But at the end of the day, it only really makes the creators more money.
It would be interesting to see if somebody could successfully leverage their project.
Like, you know, I've never seen a D-Gods or a Doodles, for example, giving people jobs and actually rewarding them for the value that they bring to their community.
It's definitely a tough thing to tackle because, you know, everyone's working from their computer and it's kind of a privilege to work on your computer and in Web 2 from home.
So it's something that Web 3 needs to have a seamless transition to really, like, having these kind of these, like, tiers.
You know, there's always going to be, you know, creators, early adopters, people who are in charge of projects.
That's the 1%.
So what about the 99%?
You know, we're going to have a lower class, middle class, upper class, for example.
There need to be people who are working for a quote-unquote, like, minimum wage.
And, yeah, it sucks, but that's kind of just how business is and capitalist society in general, and that's the Web 3 space as well.
I don't know the answer to how it's possible.
Well, currently, in this business plan.
Yeah, how people can really – no, I mean, I love what you were saying.
I love your business plan.
Well, I'm saying, like, there is an answer to that.
Yeah, but I'm just thinking, like, it's definitely something to keep in mind when you're, you know, building your own projects, just in general.
You know, building your own projects, et cetera.
How can we really, like, reward people for what they're good at?
You know, not – I guess reward is the wrong word, but how can we get people involved for what they're good at and pay them accordingly?
And eventually, as the space, you know, becomes more and more mass adopted, eventually there will be a, you know, a class system almost.
So, it's an interesting topic to think about, and I don't know the answer, so.
I will just jump in for a second.
Yeah, this is a really important question, and I really think that – I'm not sure at this moment.
Yeah, we live in a capitalism.
I'm definitely not sure that Web3 can provide answers at this point to the worst sides of it.
But what I – I don't think that it even should, but definitely what I agree absolutely with you is that it would be super interesting to see how can the things we create now provide more –
provide, let's say, better working environment, more fair working environment to the different people, different talents and everything.
I didn't saw until now that any project leveraged what they do in a way that it can really onboard the people from a traditional Web2 or from Web3 and give them something sustainable.
What was funny to me, actually, I was following a few Web3 agencies during the 2021,
and at one moment I was thinking that this is happening because I was speaking with a friend and he told me that he's employed in a Web3 agency.
They're doing stuff for different clients, and he mentioned the salary which was like three times bigger than my Web2 salary.
And I was basically shocked because the first question was, which was in my mind,
if you can really distribute salaries like this in one system, there has to be crazy income every month, basically.
When you calculate the hour of this person, it's really huge.
It's more than a senior developer, and that was pretty much crazy to me.
And basically, I started to doubt that we had a paradox of sort where people who weren't competent to develop the sustainable business models
basically get into the huge cash and started to build the processes, to build the businesses without previous knowledge,
and that was a huge mess.
My PFP is a loser club, and I love that collection.
I love the art and everything.
But one of the funniest things I saw was an official announcement where the loser club said,
after a year, after the mint, that they didn't...
I will not quote it strictly, but the explanation was we didn't plan the resources well,
so we had the human resource expenses, which basically drained a big amount of our budget.
And when you calculate it, you see that there was like 10 people involved.
I don't have exact data.
I mean, maybe a mistake, but it was like 10 people involved, and there was a big budget.
I mean, it was minted like $0.08 Ethereum per piece, when the Ethereum was like $3,000, and it was minted in $10k.
So there was a few millions, I mean.
And the question is how you really fuck that up in a year.
I'm not saying that these guys pretty much fuck that up, but there was definitely a problem with that.
I think that that's the huge problem right now, why I don't see Web3 can offer, especially not now, businesses and everything, but that can change.
What I'm afraid of is that the traditional business and traditional companies will enter the Web3 and then basically dominate us and make the game according to their...
Well, I'm not sure if you know this or not, Sanger, but right now there are actual Web2 businesses that are paying exclusively over the blockchain.
They're dealing with their salaries on the USDC currency over the blockchain basis.
Instead of it being a check or in a direct deposit, it's exclusively over the blockchain.
There are also healthcare agencies that are using a blockchain technology as well.
I mean, right now the blockchain is much more than what we're doing with NFTs and crypto, right?
So we're just really paving the way what the possibilities are with what we're doing with NFTs and crypto.
But on the back end of things, behind the scenes, without people actually seeing it, the blockchain is taking over the internet.
It's really becoming...
People are talking about using the blockchain for your social security information now, not just your healthcare, but your social security.
Your whole identity could be on the blockchain coming up soon.
So the world is really changing in that regard in one aspect, one.
And two, to answer the person's question, I'm sorry, I forgot your name, but to answer your question about how it'll all come together and create Web3 jobs and Web2 jobs and seamlessly put them together,
I put up top another pinned tweet there, it explains how much I'm getting as a CEO and developer, first and foremost.
And it also shows a financial displacement chart, and that displacement chart shows that we have a payroll and taxes pool.
And if we pay everyone 0.13% equal salary out of that pool, we can actually hire, I think, up to 1,200 employees.
So there's room to scale, and we still have room to pay taxes on top of everything as well.
So everything is based on how well you do your job, not instead of, oh, you're here, you exist, you're a body, you account for something.
No, that's not an hourly pay rate.
And that's the answer to solving how the money can get displaced properly without the owner getting everything.
And I answered your question up in that pinned tweet there, if you look.
No, yeah, for sure.
I guess kind of what I was kind of mainly trying to say was that there's so many variables that kind of go into this.
And it would really take a, because, you know, people follow these Web3 founders like they're gods almost, and your reputation is everything.
But to really have the capabilities and resources to put 1,200 people to work on their computer using, you know, their own skills for something that could, you know, pay hourly is going to take partnerships with Web2 companies and Web3 established brands.
Because Web2 companies can't come into Web3, you know, employing, I mean, you can employ developers on Upwork, for example.
But like I said, there's so many variables that go into this.
Many of these developers don't speak English.
Yeah, there's just so many variables.
I think it's really going to take Web2 companies and Web3, you know, communities that have already built their reputations working hand in hand to start accomplishing this.
You know, to really employ 1,200 people, I think it's a really good, you know, goal for you to have.
And I, you know, employee, please, like, you know, give it your all, because that's really what the space needs to push it forward, is to get people working and to get these kind of class systems, I guess, almost established.
So and then, you know, we go from there.
And there's it's definitely more in a decentralized system.
There's obviously going to be much less wealth accumulation, like at the very top.
So it's definitely better.
It's well suited capitalism in general to Web3.
We just have a long way to go.
Plus all the rugs and the BS that people are dealing with, right?
It's making a lot of people skeptical and scared and they're just afraid of the FUD and the rugs and scams and just afraid in general.
So the better the project, the more unlikely they are to onboard or the better the initiative or the better the opportunity like a Web3 job.
They're not going to take it without actually like give me my cash first.
So right now in the space where we have to find that equilibrium, that balance and harmony that we have yet to actually truly have.
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
I will definitely call for another space.
I had a meeting with a really interesting project there called the Mind Garden.
I'm not sure about their nickname right now, but the Mind Garden is basically the name of the project.
And these guys also have a really interesting model about empowering the communities and individuals through different courses and cooperation with the top key speakers globally.
And I really loved what they built.
So practically, I will invite them in another space so they can present to something.
And you guys actually, while discussing this, gave me an idea for additional two speakers I could invite.
I will just conclude this, if you all agree, with the thought that I really like what you both, William and Pat, told.
And I really wish you to succeed because it's important, basically.
And it's funny how we are careful in a web tree.
We always speak about scammers, ruggers and everything.
But in reality, I met more honest people in a web tree than in a web tool.
And definitely, I had only good experiences regarding this, some shit that I aped in and minted because we do it.
You got real lucky, Singer.
Yeah.
I think honestly, I've been broke.
But what I want to say, am I ruggers again, right?
No, you're good.
I can hear you.
So technically, right.
I can hear you.
Yeah, definitely.
Something is wrong with the connection.
Okay.
So if anyone wants to jump in, we can slowly conclude this session.
I just want to say one more thing before you wrap it up.
I think it's also going to be really important for, and this is something that I've actually, that I'm working on too and doing my own kind of agency.
I think that these, like, like right now, it's mostly just like marketing agencies.
It's not really talent agencies in Web3 where you're, you know, having appendages like IT and developers with multiple, like you would have in an office building for one of these, you know, corporations that are businesses that has the capability to employ 1,200 people.
You know, they have different floors, one's, you know, one's sales, one's development, one's HR, et cetera.
And these marketing agencies in Web3 right now, it would be nice if, you know, one of them could be good and like doing what I described and then partnering up with a Web2 company to employ these people through, you know, an IT company.
But right now, the marketing agencies in Web3 are only established off of the following of founders already creating something like that they can basically just use to get $2,000 or $2,500 out of a project who wants their help marketing.
And then what do they really do?
It's not really providing any value and it's not really doing any service to people.
Feel free, feel free, feel free to say directly, they're delivering the shit.
And I really, I really feel that I have a right to say this because I'm, I'm breeding marketing and living it every day.
At this moment, I wouldn't have a guts to promise people I will do the marketing in a Web3 because there is no need for one at this moment.
But I completely agree with you.
And I think that the moment when the Web2 companies, let's say, start onboarding Web3 is really close.
I mean, we already have examples, Starbucks, et cetera.
There are many of them.
But yeah, and we will definitely have more in the near future.
And these people right now, all of you, have a great chance to be the ones who will provide their services.
I really believe they will integrate every quality person in a Web3 into their systems because they will need it.
And I'm completely fine with that.
I mean, that's something that should happen.
And then we can talk about the marketing because then we will have definitely a bigger marketplace, bigger, bigger, bigger market in general.
At this moment, the market is too small to be treated with the traditional marketing in a sense like, hey, we are Web3 agency.
Let's help you build your profile, get followers.
Why do you need followers?
I mean, we don't have buyers.
I mean, there is no need to take your money.
And I don't know.
Do you really need 20,000 followers?
Go buy them for $50.
But that doesn't mean anything.
I was talking with a guy who gave huge amounts of money because some guy actually told him that for $1,000 monthly, he can deliver him like 1,000 followers.
And I don't know, one space and everything.
I told him, yeah, he will deliver 1,000 followers because he will buy them for $50.
And he will take the rest of the money for himself.
So it's really madness.
I don't really see if you – this is my personal opinion.
I don't want to insult anyone.
But if anyone approaches you with the idea of marketing, not to mention I will retweet you, promote you, sir, and push your giveaway, just block him.
I mean, there is really no need.
What we need to focus our energy on now is to help people shape their products, do the product development, and definitely do the personal branding.
Because I would like to left it for another space, but definitely at this moment, combo for promoting a project is really good personal branding from the founder's perspective and then the project profile.
But that's also not imperative.
This is just something I am researching and working on these days.
Very well said.
Okay, guys.
Thank you so much.
Sorry.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I see you, Sigourm.
Okay.
And also, we are trying to change the feature.
I mean, sometimes everyone thinking again, we can change our feature in the same circle, actually.
If we are in the same circle, I mean, I'm talking about the Web3.
If you're in the same circle, sometimes we can see that, yeah, okay, market is fucked up right now.
And because, I mean, everything is low.
So, and it's the problem, we are not trying to connect, I mean, you can say that in real world or Web2, I mean, we show them what we are doing.
For example, we are looking at the investor.
Yeah, okay, you can come to Web3 and you can invest that.
Because I talked to so many friends, they are always investing in crypto coins.
But when I ask them, okay, can you invest in NFT projects or one of one art or, I mean, it's NFT side.
Oh, I think it's ridiculous.
They are telling that.
Why?
I asked them why you are thinking this.
Because coin side is so fast for me and it's okay if I fucked up my whole money.
It's not a problem.
And I'm just trying to understand why he's thinking like that.
And I'm telling the NFT community and NFT projects, we are doing this.
Actually, we are building also in the future, you will see us like a Web2 company or anything like that.
And they are really trying to understand us.
But I understand that finally, no one is telling these people, okay, come here.
Because we are in the same ship, actually.
I mean, whole blockchain, we are in the same ship.
But we are like a separate side.
I mean, coin side is another place and NFT is another place.
One of one is another place.
And we need the merger in the same place, actually.
This is my idea.
But if we can do this in the future, probably blockchain will go to moon.
I can only agree with you.
I mean, these are all valid reasons.
And yeah, I agree with this.
In general, what I would like to add, I mean, all you just inspire me to go on with this space.
And I need really to get some sleep because this is like 15 hours in a row.
So, but what really buzzed me for a long time is what would we be able to make and to create if we really unite around one idea?
I know that's hard.
I mean, people are different and we all chase our ambition and our goals.
And since the humanity, it was never easy to unite people around one idea.
But having in mind how this community right now is small and it's really small compared to the, I don't like to make differences between crypto community and NFT community.
But definitely there are some and it's really small and it would really be interesting.
That's one of the ideas with the kindness syndicate to make something without boundaries in a way that each community has rules.
Each community basically today is based on selling some product and I think we need more relaxed communities where people will could really express themselves and to connect all these guys.
I mean, I pick the kindness as a term because I really noticed that the majority of people feel like there is not enough kindness in the space, especially when they are just entering.
And when you are reading, actually, what we write in the timelines, just go through your timeline, you will definitely notice that besides GMs, kindness is not something that you can meet really often.
Especially, I have sometimes, I have impression that we all speak with ourselves and not really hear anyone around what people are saying to us.
We tweet something, we tweet something, we have like two or three replies and then we are continuing to do what we do the best.
Okay, shadow ban is definitely a reason for that.
In one way, I personally use the replies because when I do a full reply, I always get a deal, but people do the better networking and create communities that would really let everyone express themselves.
And the power of the crowdsource.
Okay, guys, once again, I have to say a huge thank you.
It was really wonderful to chat with you.
Definitely, I'm not eager to promise that because
Join the kind of syndicate, follow these brilliant speakers tonight, and see you soon.
Thanks, sir.
See you too.
You're welcome.
Thanks.
