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Take it or run it, get better
How much you trot in the mellow?
As soon as they land, we gon' sell out
Go back and sit, keep the smell out
Titch on the gang, you gon' sell out
I try to tell you, chill out
Say we oughta trot and get out
If you guess you know it, we should step out
It's only going one way
It's having melon one day
Run it up and invest in shit
Heart broke when they made them sick
Can't find time for relationships
Don't be proud of your ways and lit
I'm sure as far as you can make a wish
I done feel like I was made for that
If that ain't gone, I ain't worth it
I'm sure as far as you can make a wish
Make some more time for my kid
Everybody something wrong with
Me and her when it's time to get spent
Me and her when it's time to get spent
Oh, baby made a wish
They want credit, but she ain't good
She back outside on me the fifth
If I catch you, you know it is
She hit the bitch with the beat right
You in the middle
And you left up the scrotting bitch
I'm prepared for whatever they say
And all I'm doing is calling the case
And all I'm calling, calling the case
And all I'm doing is calling the case
All I'm doing is calling the case
And all I'm doing is calling the case
All I'm doing is calling the case
They think I'm crazy that way
I'm spending this money
I ain't going out like Mike Tyson
We have to win, bro.
It's really nice.
I'm in there most of the world in the end.
I like it, man.
My life's a story.
It's not a punch.
It's not a party.
It's not a function.
I never needed no introduction.
No, I'm stuck.
I'm still adjusting.
Now I can't go all like that.
No, that's why I'm touching.
I see it when they don't really have a audition.
Ain't nothing.
Yeah, yeah, you came back and you fell Second place can't be on my face all night
Deep pockets that look emotional That's why I love this, you know I got it
I literally never know what playboy carnie is saying in any of his songs
There's just like no clue welcome space y'all appreciate y'all for popping out
It is a historic day, it's a big day for not only Solana but for crypto as a whole
And yeah, I was excited to be a part of it and just see everything that was going on
Hopefully everybody made some money in some way and if you didn't that's okay
If you want to come up on stage click that request button bottom left hand corner
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Give it a like comment retweet all that good stuff
There's a lot to talk about and a lot to unpack
I think first we'll do a little bit of a price update traffic report weather report Bitcoin is that point three three percent forty two?
K theory miss point five percent really no movement across the board just either up or down point five percent
Let me see if I can find any of the big movers
Yeah, nothing crazy
Nothing super crazy today obviously Jupiter, and we're gonna talk about Jupiter quite a bit here
Before we do that we'll jump over to open see
Okay, let's see here
Azuki trending number one at six point seven eats with sixteen hundred eth traded tension
Which looks like a newer collection is that point five eth right now? What is this one tension?
And there are a lot of anime projects coming out right now this
Sky arc Chronicles, I'm not really sure what it is, but it's anime, so I like it crypto punks as well
pudgy maladies at point one pudgy's in general pudgy penguin sixteen point seventy gods at three point one doodles at
2.2 and little pudgy's at one point seven jump over to magic Eden
See for Ghana's at six soul tensorians at eighty
Juke cats which I guess we're a free mint or something
but they got a lot of attraction today after the Jupiter airdrop there at two point seven soul mad lads at 180 and
Clay knows at 37, and that's kind of it crypto undead almost dropping below seven at seven point zero two nine
nobody's really talking about
crypto undeads anymore, which is
Interesting I wonder if they're gonna make a comeback well look at the Bitcoin ordinal stuff here
And these RSIC metaprotocol things just keep going up
They're at point zero six a shout out to anybody that got the airdrop their node monkeys at point one six and
Frogs at point one eight and the Bitcoin puppets the couple's favorite ordinals collection at point zero four
So yeah a lot of a lot of movement. We're gonna jump over to the
The Jupiter airdrop here
I'm also fucking exhausted. I'm not gonna lie guys
All right Jupiter is 65 cents
Yeah, I don't know like it the moment it dropped. It was a dollar 27 and
It was basically down from there
There is some sort of like curve or something where I guess this was to be expected if you if you looked into it
At all which I did not I personally did not buy any Jupiter today
I got a little airdrop nothing
Life-changing or significant. I know some people got you know fifty thousand and a hundred thousand dollars
Whatever it is mine was a lot less than that, but I was still happy to receive it and
I I just I
Will have to see I don't see like a short-term catalyst to get this moving if I'm being honest with you
1.1 billion traded over the over the last 24 hours really over the last fucking 12 hours since it launched and
There were a lot of people predicting it was gonna go from one to two dollars basically day one and
It just has been hovering between 60 and 70 cents basically since the moment it was released
Meow did a Twitter space today with about three point three thousand concurrent people and I listened to some of it
He talks so fast. Oh my gosh. He talks so fast. I'm gonna have to re-listen to it to kind of get all the info
No, they did a really good job. It went off without a hitch what I really liked and I thought
Like something that should be standard when it comes to airdrops
I loved that you could claim the Jupiter airdrop from within the phantom wallet that
Saves so many people from being scammed
Instead of having a tweet and then people are looking for the link and then there's fake pages and a bunch of spam links
Under the original tweet you just open up your wallet and claim it that is sick
That should be standard across all airdrops
So shout out to phantom and Jupiter for making that happen because it probably
Probably lower the amount of people that got drained by fucking eighty percent
Realistically, I did not see even one person that I know of or saw in the timeline that clicked on a bad link and had
An experience that was you know, less than positive. So that was really really cool
And one of the things that me I was talking about in the space and as well as we were discussing this over the past
Two days too
Is that there's really no utility like as far as we know there's no utility
Maybe they end up building something in the future and I don't even know if it's gonna be governance person
I mean, I'm assuming there's gonna be a governance aspect. But what I'm confused about is
Some people are buying mock Jupiter
over just the real Jupiter and
At HG actually had a tweet about this earlier today and he was saying I'm buying you know
All this mock juke he probably has like a few million dollars worth of it
Because and his thesis was that mock juke was the true community coin as it was airdrop to everybody fairly and
Jupiter is, you know
50% there I think it was 40% to the community 20% to the team and then like another 30% that's reserved for whatever
So, I don't know but Jupiter did launch three coins in the past two weeks and I
Don't know how people feel about that. I do think it's interesting to say the least so
We're gonna have to see but um, I might eat my own words by saying this
But I just don't think the price is gonna go up to like two three dollars anytime soon
Like maybe I'm fucking wrong and maybe like the VCs and the funds start bidding like crazy over the weekend
It's totally possible, but I just can't see any reason that this would
Like like what is the purpose of it going up now there was um, you know
A lot of people were comparing it to Uniswap and Uniswap's fdv right now. So so Jupiter is sitting at a
6.5 billion dollar fdv and
Uniswap is
5.9 billion so Jupiter is currently valued at almost half a billion dollars more than Uniswap
Now I understand in crypto
Fdv is really just a fucking imaginary number and if people want to send something they send it like it nothing no fdv
or market cap in crypto is truly
Like none of it actually
Dictates the value or the or how much worth the product creates. It's just that's just not the way it is
All right
Like we're bored apes worth 150 ETH where they worth a half million dollars on the floor where they're creating that much value
No, but you know hype speculation it is what it is and that's how it is in crypto
And I think that's totally fine. I actually think it's good that it's that way
But it is interesting to see that Jupiter at its current price is valued that much more than Uniswap
considering
You know, you know swap has been around for years
And so on and so forth. I do think Jupiter is a better product
I don't even think it's close
I think Uniswap is much more true to like the crypto ethos web 3 ethos decentralization type deal
And it's it's it's a top-down culture, right? Like
even and I talk about this all the time even comparing Solana to
To aetherium and you know, a lot of people say that Solana centralized
I do believe that certain aspects of it are pretty centralized, but I also believe the same thing about ETH
I think they both have I think Solana probably more so but but you know, don't hate me for saying that
But it's fine. I don't really think it matters too much too much to be honest with you
But um, it's a top-down culture thing
Like you have something like Vitalik who's like very much crypto ethos. He's like on far caster
He loves Ian as he is just very much in that headspace where
Tully and Raj are a little bit different in their alignment, right? And I think that's not a bad thing at all
I actually think it's pretty good
But it's the same thing with Jupiter
like if you compare Hayden from Uniswap to let's say meow from Jupiter like very very different ways of looking at what a
You know essentially a decentralized swap could be but I do love the features that Jupiter has like the date
The native DCA is insane. That is a complete game changer
Now you would think that native DCA would stop people from dumping their coins for $2 profit
But you know Solana community is gonna do what the Solana community is gonna do
Now the title of the space is Jupiter airdrop failed Solana is doomed. It's just clickbait
It's actually a kind of mid title
So I'll probably switch it here in a minute, but I do want to shout out our sponsors for the month. Shout out to game in
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So I want to I want to actually pull these numbers up here quickly
Alright so the upcoming airdrop this was actually written right before the airdrop and I think it's interesting to kind of compare and contrast
This to to kind of how people are feeling now the upcoming airdrop at Jupiter's native token is drawing attention from the d5 sector
I do want to just go over
This was the day before the airdrop the exchange saw
24-hour trading volume of 406 million over almost half a billion dollars
And the trading volume surpassed that of Uniswap v2, which saw 24-hour trading volume 108 million
It was almost four. There's even more than four times more volume traded on
On Jupiter compared to to Uniswap, which is just crazy. I mean those numbers are absurd
So anyway, the Jupiter team will manage 50% of the supply and the remaining 50% will distributed to the community
Unlike originally stated in the Jupiter green paper. There will be no token sale, which there wasn't
Which there wasn't so let me pull up the distribution here quickly
All right, so the top Solana based centralized exchange Jupiter launches juke token going live at just over a billion dollar market cap
I don't think that's ftb though. So here are the tokenomics. So 1 billion
tokens for the airdrop
250 million for the launch pool 50 million for loans to sex market makers and 50 million for any immediate needs
We also says there's a buffer of 33 million juke tokens that aren't part of the airdrop which includes compromised wallets massive number of appeals
And edge cases that we could not go and get to in time before a jupiary
At the time of writing juke is trading at 67 cents with a market cap of 924 million again. That's not ftb
Meow says the team is considering a plan where every January 31st more tokens are distributed to Jupiter users
So I think there's two more really big airdrops happening that go and they flow through the next three years
They said we expect Jupiter to be around for decades and we believe that consistent token distributions are an incredibly powerful way to rally community
However, it's also incredibly distracting for the team and potentially poisoning the community because we want people to use the product because they love it
And not because of points therefore to respect both those dynamics
We were posed to do a jupiary 31st every year without fail
Where a significant portion of the tokens will be distributed to users with a cut-off on November 2nd with a solid three months focus
on engaging the community
And the rest of the nine months focus exclusively on product and platform growth
So, I mean I think it goes without saying I'm pretty bullish on Jupiter. I really like the product and I use it on a daily basis
In terms of price movement on the token. I think those are two very different things the community like I think a product can be
Phenomenal and amazing in every way, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's gonna be token price appreciation
I do think over time it goes up. Obviously, I think if a bull market comes and Solana goes to fucking $500
Jupiter is gonna fly with it. But right now
I'm not entirely sure but that's my opinion and I've never been a great trader. So take that for what you will
Okay, let's move on
This was FTX news earlier today. I was reading about so FTX expects to fully repay customers
But won't restart defunct crypto exchange
So with an initial surge in the FTT token after the news turned negative leaving FTT plummeting 50 for 15 percent today
Who the fuck is buying FTT token?
What is the price on FTT token
It's like bizarre that people still trade it 24-hour trading volume on FTT which was FTX is token
Just take a guess a hundred and twenty six million dollars. It doesn't even make sense
Why are people trading this thing? It's market cap is still
716 million dollars and that's not even fdv
Actually, the fdv is 767. It's just a little bit higher meaning that
FTT FTX is defunct dead completely worthless token is
Worth only 20% less than Jupiter's non-fdv valuation of their token. That is bizarre, but it's crypto
It's just like doesn't even make sense
Anyway, so
FTX bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange that was run by Sam Banker Creed said it expects to fully repay its customers according to a court hearing
However, the full recovery of customer assets is unfortunately for those waiting for their money based on the point of FTX is actual
Bankruptcy when the markets were already in turmoil that date was preliminarily approved by the US bankruptcy judge John Dorsey
And it's a point of contention for some claimants
So many of those claims are premised upon currencies
Which declined dramatically in value in that too much a list period leading up to the petition date
the repayment process under consideration the US bankruptcy court would require
Claimments to submit proof that they held and subsequently lost assets on FTX
Which will be vetted by restructuring advisors said FTX lawyers the defunct exchange has shifted its focus to making its former clients whole as it
Abandons its plans to launch its platform due to a lack of buyers according to the court proceedings. I
Guess they were thinking about relaunching FTX. That would have been insane
Today's efforts in court were aimed at pushing the case forward by allowing several camps accreditors to clinch approvals from individual investors
To approve this latest approach to getting their money back roughly 15 million people lost a combined 30 billion dollars
to 35 billion like
Those numbers are actually staggering
That is insane a lot of money was lost
FTX is native token FTT search more than 11% just after the news on the company plans
But oh, that's why people are buying it
Because there was speculation that that FTX was gonna be reopened based on what I'm seeing earlier in this article
That must be why people were buying it
Can you imagine?
SPF like it's cleared in core they run it back their anthropic investment pays all the like all the investors off
FTT token just fucking goes a hundred acts
What was this all-time high? Let's see
Holy fuck. It's all time. I was $80 per token. That is crazy
Insane which means it's all-time FTB. So what is that 40 acts from its current price?
Holy fuck FTT was worth a lot of money at one point almost 50 billion dollar FTB was was its high I think
That is insane
That is more than the current
Is more than the current market cap of Solana?
FTT token at max price was literally worth more than Solana is worth right now as an entire ecosystem
That is fucking bizarre
It just shows how how crazy those times were like just the euphoria the manic
If people were just so excited and then all this stuff is insane
Anyway, anyway, let me pull this up here as well. We also have zero request you and effort is get your asses up here
You're gonna have me talking to myself. Oh, I'll do it. I'll talk to milk
Oh, we'll just be a one-on-one if you guys want that but let's see some requests. Let's get some people up here. I
Will read from my personal diary
Leap let's hear you. Let's hear you rap. Oh
Okay, never mind. This is a disastrous. I you know, I had a feeling I should not open tonight's space
I had a feeling I was like this is this one is not this one. I'm not feeling it at all
Hopefully it comes through we got some requests up here. Hey leap
All right Clark tell me what's going on
Not much Solana worked really well today. I don't know if you were using the network today
But it worked really well. And if that was on Eve, I don't think it would have worked
I don't think it would have worked. Oh, I'm just gonna say it. I don't know. I'm not a max. Oh, but holy shit
Solana works really well
Okay. All right. This is getting ridiculous. Um
Okay. First of all people were sitting there trying to claim their Jupiter airdrop for like 45 minutes spamming point one soul transactions
All I know if this was on eat and I spent four thousand dollars to do a fast transaction
It might have gone through which is a 60% higher chance than the FTB of
Sam Beckman freed. So anyway
You're saying if it was on eat that it would not have worked. That's a bull. Yeah, I don't think it would it work
So apparently I don't know shit about Solana
But there's something called an RPC and all you had to do was swap, you know
It's like a node situation and all you had to do was swap RPC
I don't even know if those are the right three letters, but that's all you had to do and then it worked instantly
You know speaking of RPCs, so I'm at I announced it on Twitter. I wasn't gonna announce it
This this is I'm glad you mentioned the three words that give me nightmares every night or the three letters rather
RPC really painful
Cats I don't know look so I was I'm in the office. So we have like I
Don't want to give too much details. But anyway, I'm staying at the office for hello moon and
there was like a knock on my door like early early in the morning like right before my first meeting and
Walker the the founder and CEO is he's the best
He's like leap our RPCs are crushing it
I'm like, what are you talking it like I was like sleeping through the Jupiter air like what's going on?
The RPCs are just like they're they're out of this world right now
They're like they're they're performing immaculately and I started to look into it
And yeah, actually our RPCs performed really really well today, which was super cool
I still don't really know what an RPC is, but I'm figuring it out day by day
Again letters acronyms it all kind of gets put together
But yeah, I don't know Clark, I mean we've had a ton of big airdrops on each we've had ENS
We've had the uniswap airdrops. Yeah, you remember the other deeds. That was fucking awesome. That was really smooth
Okay, hold on. Um, that wasn't and that was also a fraction of the users of Solana. So today
I don't I'm not even a maxi
I didn't even like Solana like it like seven months ago and here I am today like I don't know man
I can feel it. I can feel it in my plums leap
In your okay. I don't want to know about your plums
No, I'm saying that I feel like moving into the bull if I was heavy in a certain situation
And I wanted to diversify my holdings and find a new thing to back. I think that thing would be Solana
Even though it's already up like whatever 12x from six months ago
Look, I mean I'm I'm bullish once I I'm working for a company that primarily works in
Solana like we are like probably like 90% Solana right now
So I'm very bullish on Solana the other deed thing
I the other deed mint was the the other side mint rather was the worst
Minting experience I've ever had in my entire life and I hold other deeds for any for the Solana people who may who may not
Have been there dude and Clark you fucking know that shit was ass
Literally, imagine. Okay, imagine you KYC for a mint. You're hyped. You're ready. It's the biggest mint of all time
Nothing comes close you go labs every drop they've done has skyrocketed
Everything goes 20x after mint and all of a sudden they're launching a metaverse
They have land and all you have to do is basically KYC and you can make two of these things
You're ready to go. You have your eath loaded, but it's expensive. It's like fucking four or five thousand dollars to mint
But you say fine, you know what you can knows what they're doing
This land is gonna be the most valuable things since sliced bread and I am gonna mint
So you're sitting at your computer. Nothing's working. The gas isn't working
It doesn't matter if you overload it to a thousand dollars in gas fifteen hundred dollars in gas. It doesn't work
So you say fuck I need more eath. Let me go to my metamask
Let me go to coinbase and transfer more eath
Well, the whole network is down and you cannot transfer anything from wallet to wallet because so many D dens are trying to mint this
thing I remember
it was like
$4,000 or $5,000 to mint or whatever it was and then it was an additional four or five thousand dollars in gas for people who got
Like who minted very fast. It was insane, dude
It I still think back to that in the staggering amount of money that flew through that mint was absurd
It was like I think that's the biggest mint of all time. It was like 400 million dollars
It was ridiculous
Didn't we end up with some we didn't we end up like burning like sixty to a hundred million dollars just on gas
That one man. I actually think it might have even been more. I'm looking at the numbers now
I'm trying to find them and it was yeah, it was definitely over. It was either maybe you're right
Maybe it was sixty to a hundred million, but just think about that number
Sixty to a hundred million just burnt. I mean it goes to the validators
Of course, and they're keeping the network secure all that good stuff. But I mean, it's just fucking absurd
I think I actually think in five
What's that PD
Hey, what's up? How you doing, man? Sorry to interrupt you go ahead. No, no, please jump in
No, I was just going to jump in and say I remember that day too and I remember front running
With three eth and I actually succeeded but three eth back then when when eth was what what was it at the time?
Maybe four grand. I mean it was ridiculous and like looking back
I mean, it's absurd absolutely to jump on the bandwagon how much people spent on gasoline
Dude it was I mean listen to this the team raked in more than three hundred million dollars in revenue from that one mint
People forget how much you go was printing even I'm pretty sure the mutants mints made them a hundred million as well
So like you look at some of these other product and that's why when I see some of these projects like they raised
Two mil or three mil and everyone's just freaking out. Oh, they're raising way too much. They're gonna rug us
I'm like, do you understand how much money these early aetherium projects made?
I mean, there's not even a there's not even something comparable on other chains
And I actually think in regards to the gas fees
I actually think in five to ten years
We're gonna look back at it and say we were insane to mint anything on eth mainnet
Like I think it'll it'll be so taboo and we'll look it's like basically using floppy disks
We think about floppy disk now as this archaic technology that seems so foreign to like we have USBs and micro USBs
You see all this different stuff now. I
Think it's gonna be the same thing with ease where minting anything on ETH mainnet
It's just gonna be considered the most they'll just be considered ludicrous and not the musical artist. So I don't I don't know
I'm trying to find
Now that I've been not interrupt, but now that I've been messing around on Solana this time around. Oh my god
I mean, it's just kind of fun being able to
Deejin into coins and different mints and not have to worry about, you know
$70 and fees every time you want to like do something. It's just it's just been nice to like really get super hyper deejin
Absolutely and to his point right there to his point real quickly
It's like you're able to actually flip some NFTs for a fraction not and not really worry about gas
That's that's the great thing about Solana
well Solana has a lot of really great things about it and I do admit that's one of them I
we've been talking about this a lot recently and I had a conversation with right guy on the phone about this earlier today and
the red guy is very much like I
Hate to use like the left curve right curve
I think I would say I'm a little bit more on the right curve side and he's much more on the left curve side
And he's like very adamant on
It's like again like we talked about all the time you remove the fat you remove the bullshit like what do people want to do?
they want to have fun they want to speculate and they want to gamble even if they don't think it's gambling and
More and more as the days go by I'm just starting to understand. That's a really big part of it. You even have now
What is it whale market that you can trade points OTC and?
Things like that have been around for a little bit
But even that just further it adds another layer in another dimension to to airdrop farming and people speculating on things now
you can speculate on the speculative thing that allows people to speculate it
It's just bizarre
It's just bizarre to say the least and I am I saw a tweet about this the other day
Or maybe it was a comment on one of my tweets where someone said
gambling is so good for for crypto as a whole because it secures the network and
Don't know. I just thought that was like a really interesting way of thinking about it like maybe that's true
Maybe the fact that people want to gamble and speculate 24-7 is actually good
and it gives liquidity to the market it adds stability to a certain extent and
But is that really what it is like is that
That the main use case here like even with Jupiter token. Yeah, I was talking about this
He's like look if you want utility this isn't really the token for that maybe they'll have governance
maybe whatever but people will buy Jupiter token because they like Jupiter and they like the product is that really what it is like have we
Boiled this down to the bare bones of what people actually care about and is they like something so they'll buy it
Like is that simply what it is? I don't know
Wait, can we go back?
Where do you think NFTs are gonna be if they're not gonna be on a theorem because I feel like especially TG is pushing
Eth NFTs like crazy and I feel like a lot of people are as well
Like where do you think like not on blockchain or like a new blockchain? Like what what's your angle? Would that take?
Yeah, I don't know
I mean like I said before I think we'll look back at this in ten years and think it's ridiculous that we minted and did
Anything on ethamine. Yeah, it's all ridiculous. All this entire industry is ridiculous with fucking Bitcoin puppet all of its
This is no do capitulation is crazy, bro
No, I'm very I'm actually very bullish on L2. So I actually think that L2s are gonna be like right now
obviously people are like it's so
Convoluted and you have to bridge everything and you have to do all this different stuff
Dude, I think all of that friction goes away in the next five years
I genuinely think you'll be able to operate pretty freely between L2s and you won't even realize what you're fucking
Like you won't even know I think eth mainnet is the worst thing ever if you want to mint or build or do all
This stuff and I think L2s are the place to do it
But I totally understand people's frustrations
But I think in just turn in terms of the monolithic narrative of you having like one state one unified state where everything operates on
People who believe that Solana is gonna be the place for them
And I also think Solana is much better for the average user right now when it comes to gambling
I mean like look at fucking LFG launchpad that Jupiter it is literally a shit coin launchpad and it's not even speculation
Bro, they launched three coins in the past two weeks and they're pretty open about like what this thing is
You know, I mean like it that is that is the point like they understand their target demographic
They understand who they're marketing to and this stuff is perfect for them
so I think that's the I
Don't want to just say like Solana is gonna be for gambling because I don't think it is I think there's gonna be like
More infrastructure built on top of it for you know, real-world stuff, but um, I
Don't know. I'm not mad at the gambling aspect. Let people fucking gamble and let them make money
I also saw a comment on one of my tweets where it was like, it's not that deep people just want to
Essentially people just want to change their lives and that's fine, too. I I'm totally there totally with that
Yeah, can we can we talk about the fact though that if you're bullish on Solana?
the one thing like I think like the biggest no-brainer to be bullish on is juke because I think that's like
Probably the best thing built on Solana. I
Think it's the best thing built on Solana. I agree. I just I don't understand
Maybe I'm an idiot
But like why would this thing fucking 10x in less Solana gets really big or like when it gets really big?
Yeah, I mean look at look at like the like the daily active users on Jupiter
It's the highest daily active users on any exchange on any blockchain
So I think if we're seeing that now when Solana is that like $100
Like the bull market progresses like I'm sure
Jupiter is probably gonna have like, you know, 10 million plus like daily active users
Yeah, I I don't disagree with that. You know what surprises me Kevin
Like you have Yuna swap which has been around for so long and is sturdy and works well and has cool stuff
But then you have Jupiter and it's coming is like fuck native DCA this that whatever like they're just adding all
Like what it like? I don't know. It feels like like yeah, you need swap bro
Like they just fell asleep at the wheel like they're like they're like, you know Disney and they just like, you know
bought fucking Marvel
so they're just like making remake after remake after remake of every fucking superhero movie and then
Like you like fucking Jupiter's like a 24 and they're like, oh, yeah, like we'll just go with more kind of story based
Character. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't I've been on a cinema dive lately
But yeah, the point is you need to stop fucking sucks, dude. Holy shit. Get your fucking shit together, dude
What so okay, so I don't know if it necessarily sucks, but I will say this what is up with aetherium
Things that just do not innovate. I'll give you an open sea
Which by the way, I'm going to the open sea offices on Friday
So I don't want them to hate me
But like there hasn't really been any massive innovation there and magic Eden's shipping a new product basically every week
it's because like the aetherium foundation and like most of these like
Like on our protocols and like products built on the youth like they were just number one for so long
It's like watching a fucking UFC champion who's just been you know
Defending the belt for so long like on some Conor McGregor shit
It just has an ego stops training as hard and then you just have like underdogs
like we're still fucking hungry to try to put fucking food on their plate and
They're gonna, you know support anything in their ecosystem. You have like told like just the founders of Solana like literally
like fucking I don't know like having fun with like meme coins and stuff because they realize that
Meme coins are gonna bring a lot of more attention and a lot more users on the Solana
So they're like leaning into that versus you have Vitalik who's using ticker Bitcoin as an example of a scam
Like in a fucking, you know some stupid fucking like little like release that he did
So it's just like I don't know bro
I like I'm still bullish on ETH long term because I think without aetherium. None of this really would have been here
So I'm like I'm still bullish on like the provenance that aetherium has and I do think they're still gonna be I think on every chain
There's always gonna be like the top performing assets whether that be NFTs or like meme coins or something
But for the most part, I think Solana is like a no-brainer to have more upside this cycle than
aetherium, you know
Just just a piggyback on that is like my neighbor for example, he's like a 45 year old football coach
You know volunteers with his kids and stuff and we always drink beers out front
He asked me about like Pepe or like all these different coins when he'd hear about them
Like but I couldn't recommend like oh, yeah, cuz he just wants to spend $100 or something, right?
So what am I gonna do Tom to go buy $100 of Pepe?
But wait, it's actually $60, but wait when you want to sell it's actually $30
Oh, but wait, you know, it's just not fun versus I can tell him. Oh, yeah
You can get bonk bought on telegram
I can send you an address and you can buy it for a penny
If you put 20 bucks into something you actually get 20 bucks or the underlying asset
Does that make sense? Like why would I at this part part of the cycle?
Why would I recommend like friends and family to go eat heavy unless they're fucking loaded and they want to collect art or something?
but no one's know like no real people are doing that except, you know
No normal human beings are gonna do that
So like I think Solana's just got a major blowcase in front of it plus Phantom's fucking nice
Like the wall, like the wallets are nice
The community is nice and all the value we got from NFTs in the last cycle is community building all this bullshit
He's cool like little group chats. Whatever you get that on Solana, right?
You get to meet people and network and do all that shit also
So I think I think I'm hyper bullish on Solana this season
It's just easy to like tell people about stuff and them not get like immediately hosed due to just fees
Which is a which is a big deal because most people aren't gonna throw a thousand bucks or two thousand dollars into something
It's just not realistic. You know what I mean? If you are gonna pay those fees, too
You're gonna do it on Bitcoin and not aetherium. That's a hot take. How about that?
Now I want but like there's still so much fucking liquidity on aetherium
Like so I don't think you should just like count it out
Like I do think like the most honest take we could give that isn't you know
Like dramatic is that all three of those chains are gonna exist and they're all gonna have you know their own
Communities and like their own amount of like liquidity and volume and reasons for existing
I think Solana has the most upside but at the same time dude, like holy shit like if you can
Afford, you know the aetherium gas fees and there is like a proper like eat meme season running
Like the gains that you could get like on the theme coins or like I don't even know like that shit is like
unlike anything else we saw Pepe go to a fucking like, you know, one point seven billion and three weeks in the middle of a
bear market and
Like we've seen some like pretty big runners on Solana
but you like for the most part all like most of that liquidity and volume like
Was all market made from the Solana Foundation and you know other funds that are realized that it's in their best interest
To bring a bunch of eyes and users to Solana
So it is like one thing you got to notice that when you see like, you know
Pepe going to three billion in three weeks last year
Like those were all people trading like that wasn't there like the theorem foundation is not bidding
You know, I mean versus you when you see bonk go to like, you know two or three bill
That's like retail plus Solana foundation. So I still think aetherium has a lot of liquidity
also, I mean like even you just look at the numbers so
Like market cap is market cap Solana sitting at around forty point seven bill
Ethereum is two hundred and seventy one bill, but that's less interesting to me than the actual volume
So over the past 24 hours Solana has done about three point eight billion in trading volume and aetherium has done 11 billion
So I mean, it's not a competition
Like I think we should just set the stage
I'm sure everyone on the stage likes Bitcoin eat and Solana among probably other things
So it's not really like one versus the other but it is interesting to see
Like the difference and there I love how you say it's not one versus the other but your title is Solana is dude
Oh, wait, hold up. That was um, that was a spelling error. I'm
That was a I
Meant to write some I meant to write community is is the real utility
Anyway, all right. Well shout out to be here's the thing though B and B we how often do we talk about B and B?
Never ever and so it's literally a higher market cap than Solana
Like what the what is going on on buying that's 2021 bro. We're over that shit. It's 2024
Come on, but how the fuck is it still that big?
like no, I have not seen one person tweet about B and B since CZ escaped to jail by the I
Can't think of an analogy
Yeah, that was the last time we talked about buying it and it's still a higher market cap than Solana
But it's volume. It's trading volume is so low
829 million it is the only coin in the top five that does not have even a billion dollars in trading volume today
Yeah, it's still more expensive than Solana in terms of market cap. It's just bizarre and price
So anyway, shout out to CZ look I'll throw it over to Rick Rick talk to me
Hey, thank you for having on stage
I like to circle back to the Solana if it's okay and also the comparison between Solana and ease
On the one hand I completely agree with Kay money
I think Solana in this cycle have more likely have more alpha than ease
but in the other hand also agree with you that
Solana is like more affordable casino than ease at this moment, but I'm still I'm still very bullish on
On ease in the long term, especially in the bear market if I'm going to choose a asset to hold
Go through next bear. I think it is much more likely than Solana that I will hold
but here's something keep me up at the night that
Solana approach from my kind of point for you is
it is more likely a
Customer or user acquisition rather than build an infrastructure first
So will it be the case that Solana will get the user first?
So it will accumulate a lot of user and then it will gradually
Make the infrastructure more
Comprehensive more decentralized. Would that be the case? So at at some point
that might really happen that Solana my
Seriously pass is not just not only just the
FTV but also, you know the innovation all the stuff
What will you guys think? I actually don't think that's a bad. I don't I don't disagree with that
Because that's we're kind of seeing that happen in real time
Where it looks like especially with the theorem culture this it's this idea of like look
Let's it's basically like if Amazon Ethereum to me is like if Amazon built a WS before they built Amazon the business
If they were like fuck it. We're not built like we're gonna build a WS and then we'll get users later
That's basically what a theory of this, right?
But instead Amazon was a book rental thing and then they had like the Kindles and all these different things and then
they got so big that they needed their own servers and then they created a WS and then there was a huge demand for a WS and
They basically started selling that to people
But that's not what a theory of just doing it theorems like AWS first and it looks like Solana is much more like hey
Let's just get people on the chain. I actually I don't I think that's a pretty good take Rick
I'm not gonna lie. I haven't thought about it like that before
So, I don't know what about Cardano though, I mean Cardano is it's sitting at a 17-bit. Why are people laughing it?
Cardano is the only they have a serious marketing problem because Cardano is the only chain that you just say the name and people start
Spamming laughing emojis. Are there no I use Cardano a lot actually I trade on Cardano a shit ton
Probably just as much as I do Solana. What what are you trading on Cardano?
NFTs and shit coins all of it. All right, what's the name the biggest one? What's the biggest NFT on there?
The Ape Society you've probably seen them. They got like hand-painted monkeys
Dude Ape Society
Cardano, let me see
Wait, there's a news article about it founders of Ape Society on Cardano sends to 40 years in prison. What the Clark
What are you shilling?
I'm you asked me. I'm not shilling shit
There's like their meme coins are like there's one of like a hundred million market cap and like it's quiet. Nobody knows about it
It's called snack. Oh
Snack there's another one called friend. I'm balls deep and friend token leap balls deep and friend token
All right, I'm out your plums in the beginning of space. I'm talking about balls deep. This is getting ridiculous. Also, I'm looking at
Wait, is this the biggest card? I think this is the Cardano marketplace JPEG store
Is that yeah, that's the one. Oh the volume today is really bad. There people. Yeah, it's really really bad
Yeah, yeah, it does today. The volume is bad
All right, well let me wait the floor is
3,100 Cardano, what does that even?
What is that? It's like 10 cents leap. It's like 17 dollars. All right, hold on
No, no, no Cardano is 49 cents apiece. So what is that 1500 bucks about 1600 bucks?
Is that the number one project on I want to look at what else I've never been to this website before
You see I'm not clicking connect wallet though. This this shit looks sketchy. Do you have a Cardano wallet?
That's not what you thought a wallet drainer. What are you talking about? I could I don't know I could connect my visa or something
Let's see what the number one collections are here. So stag Alliance. What is this?
It's a bunch of deers. We look in 24-hour
Wait, is there like a rule on Cardano where the art just has to be worse?
You see this 88 peepos
Yeah, yo by people you want to people I'll send you one leap
I don't even have a look at it. They're actually fun as fuck. That's one of my favorite collections, bro
Take a look. I'm not gonna lie. The art is kind of cool
I'm not gonna lie. It's good. It's quality shit. They're cheap too. I
Don't know about quality
But it's definitely cool. All right. What is this one?
Horny hippos. All right, this is ridiculous space buds. Let's see. Oh, these are not bad. These are kind of cute
Fun fact those space buds actually minted before board apes. No way really Wow. Oh
So this is like an og collection. Yeah, I
Like the art actually
I've never I've literally never been to this this marketplace ever. It's kind of interesting to go look at it though
What else is here
Wait, what why is this is one of the biggest collections are on Cardano is called book dot IO
Which is a website and the collection is the Gutenberg Bible collection, which is the Gutenberg Bible, I guess
recorded on
Yeah, it's like the og pass for that book collection
It's like they put real world books and like authors launch that shit go sort by all-time volume
Don't look at whatever 24 that you're looking at. All right, let me see a shout out to the Gutenberg Bible
Let's see
Also, I have a bunch of Cardano am efforts in my DMS telling me I'm disrespecting it the total 24 volume
24-hour volume for Cardano is a hundred and eighty thousand dollar or hundred eighty thousand ADA. So that's
What that's like eighty ninety thousand dollar you're telling me the entire Cardano NFT ecosystem did
$90,000 in trading volume over the past 24 hours
Yeah, I mean no one's buying NFTs right now. I don't think that's kind of a general thing
No, I like I'm not even saying that to diss them because there's a lot of other chains that have much lower trading volume
But I'm actually just genuinely shocked
$90,000 across all collections on Cardano in the last days
It's wild and I'm sure there's some cool stuff here too like not to knock on the Cardano community
And some of the art here is interesting like I'm looking at this one tiny meow
Mutant topia. Oh, this is it for days and be aren't you like a big Cardano guy? I
Love that shit. Why what's up? You have questions?
Yeah, my first question is how dare you?
Don't know
Tell me what are you buying up? Are you do ordinals now? Are you one of those pretentious people?
Wait, I think wait Clark has an ordinal. Are you saying he's pretentious? Good. Absolutely Clark super pretentious
What's got free in his name?
Um, there you go
All right. That's fine. Um, I mean if you really want to talk about low NFT volume
Look at the Algorand NFT marketplace. Let me find it here. Hold on. Do you look at Clayton yet?
Dude, I would know I didn't look at Clayton. They took it off opens. Yeah, they did. I saw that
Yeah, so you can't look at a leap you knew that
Okay, let's see the total 24-hour volume for let's just like compare all blockchain to see. Oh, can you also put SEI?
Say I can look at say. Yeah, NFT marketplace volume
By the way, as you I too, okay, please also look at that as you I do we are sweet. Is it sweet?
Okay, let's see here let's find by the way the sleeper that nobody talks about is immutable X
there is a fuck ton of volume all the time on immutable and
It literally never gets mentioned within this little corner of web 3 for whatever reason and it's on eats
Like it's not some like a random thing. They do like games, right immutable. Yeah
Yeah, they have like it's like God's own chain is built on top of immutable
There's a ton of stuff that's built on top of me. Wow. I haven't heard God's own chain in a frickin minute, dude
God's own chain is like bro
They didn't even though I maybe it's not as good as it should be or like it didn't become as good as it should be
They are fucking oh gee and they really set the standard for what a production level
Ladies like an enterprise level card trading game using NFTs could be like that's where so many people got their start
And there used to actually be people who streamed it quite often. I used to be friends with a few of the streamers
All right. Here we go. So aetherium NFT marketplace actually while I'm reading this and kind of aggregating the data
I'll throw it quickly over to Chaz Chaz. You're a huge Cardano guy. What do you think?
Hey leap don't really care about about that stuff. I was mostly just checking on you
I wanted to see how your throat was doing. I know you were out of commission for a while and
Last time yeah the last time
You had your spaces before your throat
Had the problems you said I'm going to thread guys house
I'm hanging out thread guy and then your throat was out of commission for a
Few days. I just want to check in. I just want to check in and see what was going on, you know, yeah
Appreciate appreciate the concern. I feel like you could have worded that in any way that was like 99% less sus
But um, yeah, my throat's doing okay, and no I good. I did not go to thread guys house and no
Okay, well we got a glad you're back Lee glad you're back. No, what's your nifty island username, please?
Oh, I actually so my username on nifty island is just leap surprisingly. Nobody just took my name
Which I mean, I'm not expecting people to but like it was free now
Unfortunately, nifty island is not working currently on max and I have a Macbook. So I was talking to Charlie
What the fuck are you talking about?
Who told you that bro, I've been playing on a Macbook for the past like
Every day I sign in I get my 3,000 blooms. Yeah, I do my little challenge. Yeah
Yeah, there's different Mac books that are different versions and it's not work get a new one
I have literally a maxed out MacBook like m3 like dual boot dual boot lead
So you the issue is you have to new of a Mac book
Right now there's a there's it's not just me like there's a lot of people having issues with nifty island and Mac
It's something they're looking into and they're actually deploying a launcher fix for it tomorrow
I feel like my computers inferior now that it doesn't have this problem
Well as of tomorrow tomorrow, they should be launching the fix for it. So hopefully I'll get I need the new computer
You don't you have the m3? I have the m2 pro evidently. That's not good enough
No, it's not. Yeah, it's not. Okay. Can I just go through some of this data? Jesus Christ? No, can I do one more thing?
Yeah, what's up? Yeah, so I found out this today
Absolutely a crazy thing to me
YouTube there's a YouTube channel for the weapons manufacturer Northrop Grumman and they have non-stop ads
For high-tech weapon systems that are like
specifically targeted towards nation-states
Particularly the US and I don't understand why they put them online
But I've had a real kick out of watching a bunch of these and pretending I'm a nation-state
Looking for some kind of new weapons and I'm like, you know, I really wanted this like precision guided missile
But I did the cop it's too big, you know, it's just not gonna work compared to the competent
I I don't know you can make your own little world over there, but it's a real I
Just I don't even know what you're I honestly don't even know what you're talking about
Like we're speaking the same language and I'm just not
It's like not processing with me. It's it's just been a long day
But shout out to Northrop Grumman
That's probably the first time I've ever heard someone reference that company on a Twitter space and be you're consistently breaking records
That's the other YouTube channel. You got to check out the United States Chemical Safety Board. They do these amazing
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Appreciate you guys for sponsoring this face
Look, the first thing we're gonna do is look at some of this data and then and then we're gonna get into it
So give me one moment here. I've just completely discombobulated. Oh, we also have Cal up here Cal
I've not talked to you in a long time. I mean, what do you think about this Jupiter?
Oh now we have two crypto punks on stage
Cal and B's is a lot. Yeah
We are not no no we're not doing this I will invite Rob Ness to the space right now and be
It's funny cuz I was trying to speak and then I guess everyone is muted I love it now
I wanted to come on first of all, what's up leave? What's up everybody?
I want to come on because I love how your title really some people actually believe like they actually took it literally
So the founder of Jupiter actually screenshotted this space. I'm gonna put it up real quick once I get
So the founders Oh
Once I get
Look at that, it's so funny, bro. Okay, check it out. Check it out. He actually this is the funniest part, bro
You're the man because you did it and then people actually are taking your your the title of this literally
No way, I didn't get a fucking lost you one of these days leave you better get frock on the line
It's like sarcasm right and then actually all the comments are like people thinking that you're actually being literal so funny
Bro, I've been on Solana for fucking two years like it I use Jupiter literally every day that is fucking wait
I don't see the screenshot. Let's see. Oh, dude
Dude, you've been ahead with hell of moon for how long and now this that's crazy, dude
That's you know, what's crazy is that meow?
I've taught we have his telegram like we were trying to schedule a space together
Like we talked back and forth like I I
Mean would it be better if you did not address this space
It's funny cuz some of the comments on there like people are saying
eat motherfuckers
Years I use Jupiter literally every day. It's a fucking clickbait title like it
I've given so many compliments to Jupiter, especially even in this Twitter space. Fuck it, dude
Okay, guys, I'm fucking dude. Let's just send the zero do send you to zero guys
It's Jupiter a liquidity pool or a wallet or both
Dude I'm gonna have to DMM on fucking telegram
I can't you know Mert did this a thing like this same thing happened with Mert
We have I had it remember when blast l2 was like fucking they announced it
it's like I had a space and it was titled blast l2 is better than Solana and
Like Mert screenshotted it and posted it and all the comments were like these fucking aetherium guys
Like they don't they're just fighting everything. They don't know everything fuck
See it. This is a problem too with and I know that there's a lot of risk when doing these titles
But I did not expect me out the fucking screen shot it and post it. I'm gonna get a lot of shit for this actually
God damn it
All right, whatever I showed the what is it you so the the field that you so go ahead Chas
Yeah, I just want to take you back off and be I've been seeing those Northrop coming videos too on YouTube and my recommended videos
And um, they're pretty crazy. You should check them out leave
All right, I'll definitely check them out Nick. What's up? I pinned one to the top of the space as well
Found out Cal
Has taken a data science class with the lovely professor at Ikari and I'm thrilled to know that she's still there
maybe she'll write me a recommendation because I'm pursuing a master's and
She's one of the funniest people in stats. She'll just kind of humble you and
Make you realize that you're probably middle curving everything
You know, I did I was having such a great time in spaces and then you're bringing me nightmares
Thanks. She's a good professor. There's not a class to four hundred thousand people online
All right
Let me let's read through some of these some of these comments here because this by the way
This tweet that meow put out is gonna go fucking insane and I know I'm just gonna get so much shit for it
But like it is what it is
Hey, but you know what though you honestly controversy is good controversy and we all know you're being sarcastic
So shit's on them for actually believing it
So yeah, but this is um, these are the cost. Hello moon is not gonna be happy
God damn it. Let me let's read through these comments. So the first one is
This is from spliffy and spliffy said that's just how leap titles of spaces. Don't take it seriously Matt wrote silly meow
You're doing a mirth too easy for leap
Atari in the chow to Atari Atari wrote. It's okay. Leap spaces are always clickbait titles the real truck
What's up? Is this a web 3 Atari a character or the Atari company?
No, no, no, he's um, he's actually like a really talented host. He uh, he has the damn show. They do a really good job
This is from swag lmao classic sleepy leapy title rare set
It's satire dude the amount of people actually in the comments that have my back right now. Yo, shout out to you guys
That's fucking nice
Let's let's keep going satire much people really don't get it
So so wrote he's always trolling clickbait at his finest he's not hating Jupa's the topic and it's positive
CEO stuff of things wrote. He's king of clickbait titles gets the crowd in
You see what else it says leap I have a hot take for you
All right, I'm ready
You know what the title is wrong
Solana is saved
for the first time in five days, I was able to pull out my
mobile tokens, so I got a nice 400 bucks of
Helium mobile tokens vines that are sitting in my
Centralized exchange I need to throw to phantom I believe
All right, well shout out to helium
Okay, I got to send a message to me out here give me a second
Maybe you'll get it. Maybe he'll join. I fucking like Jupiter
I feel like I spent the first 45 minutes of this space complimenting it
I was wondering to Cal because I saw the numbers of the space double in like five minutes
And I was like is somebody botting us what's going on? But um, but no I'm down. I have the conversations. Okay, man
Any controversies good controversy a by the way Z follow you on Twitter, right? Yes meow. No, he doesn't
Who the fuck is me out he's not gonna follow you now
All right, all right first of all, oh
Wait, hold up hold up. I'm chatting with him. I'm give me a second here
Yeah, like I gotta bounce and go do the saga monkey community spaces, but love you pleasure talking to me peace out
Somebody salon is doomed
CSCMO through three. Thanks. Yeah. Oh peace out. Don't burn too much. So
Hey Nick my dude, what did you major at Berkeley? Ah
So I was intended political economy and that's why I did stats too and I got econ
and I got econ
the thing I failed
Because I slept through the final. It was an 8 a.m. On Friday. Okay, so you're already exhausted
was international area studies and
Your degree was international area studies. No. No, okay, so I was gonna do political economy because I failed the prerequisite
Had to switch gears and so I became a rhetoric major and I'm minor to music
Here's an important question. Why did you both put it in your Twitter bio?
Because it's such a fucking grind that it becomes part of your character
Okay, we got it. I don't want to simulate with my I've okay. Can we get this conversation back on track?
I look away from my phone for two seconds for talking about college education. We all know that's worthless in crypto
All right. We got to talk about this. Does anybody have any actual takes on Jupiter and everything that happened today?
Let's let's keep it on topic here
Anybody have any actual takes here?
yeah, so um, I participated in the sale and
Little bit down on all my bags not gonna lie. I'm gonna be fully transparent with you guys
So we'll see. I mean it was very experimental. I think
We'll see I'm even even the night before when
Meow did his discord live and said he's not too sure on how it's gonna play out
Nobody really knows right nobody's predict the prices. So is it maybe gonna nuke some more probably?
I think it might I think it probably nuke some more over the next few days, especially looking at the markets right now
Yeah, I mean in terms of price like it's hard to speculate on it
I think a lot of people will sell their airdrop and that's totally fine
I think over time it'll do really really well
Especially if Solana goes crazy or when Solana like you got to imagine if Solana is $500 Jupiter has to be fucking
Five dollars apiece, but it is the right to do to take some profits from an airdrop that you farmed
Maybe I wasn't early enough. So I didn't get you
Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with with selling there are a lot of people that are buying
I I'm not gonna say the names but a few people I know put a shit like
Like six seven figures into Jupiter today. So people I doubt
Sorry, go ahead. Then I got a cow. I doubt I'll go to like that much
The reason why is the market caps already look quite high. It's already at I don't know. Is this 700 million or a hundred million?
What's correct me on my second? Let me go. I don't know pretty big. Let me pull it up right now real quickly. Um,
So Jupiter it's at
855 million. So if we're gonna if we're gonna say it's gonna double in price. It's gonna have to go to
1.9. It's gonna be up there with maker
It's gonna yeah, I got leap. I know you hate trad 5 but
23 and me is half the market cap of Jupiter and they have the genetics on like 30 million people or whatever
So that's what makes me like not as bullish but I think because of how high the market cap already is and so
We'll see. I mean the market is still quite early
Think a lot of the next big billion dollar projects. I still haven't even like been made yet for this cycle. So
Also, it's only 13% diluted. So I don't know what their schedule rollout schedule for tokens is but that's something to keep in mind
Yo, three loud a lot of time to see man. Good to see you
What's up guys what what's that's how you know, he's big bro dead mal 5 3 loud and be killed chill
Old people say it wrong. I'm just
You know, it's bullish. It's speaking of deadmau5 go
I listen to him for the first time in months today and I was reminiscing on a really sick show that I saw it was
peak deadmau5
2014 at snow globe in Lake Tahoe
It it's exactly what it sounds like. It's a winter wonderland with like four stages
It's way fucking cool as any I don't know if they still run it but it's a really good concert
He's better as test pilot
Everybody has an alter ego now. I feel like in all the DJ's I used to like like Armin van Buren
He's got another alter ego. I
Yeah, everybody's got a little ego thing going on
I don't know what that is. I'm waiting for that meta in digital art though
I think it could be exciting to see like the
So so I might jump in here quickly Blau did you do you participate in the Jupiter airdrop at all?
Have you been paying attention to this?
Um, this is why I come to leap spaces because what the fuck is this?
What do you mean?
Here's the thing with these fucking international DJ's these crypto parts, especially these eat MFers
They think they're Cal not you though. Not you Cal but these crypto punks anything they're better than
Than everybody
No, dude, this was a blot. I know you're not paying that much attention to this. No, I know that's why I'm here
I come I come to spaces to learn about what's going on because during the dam and meetings all day
So what is the Jupiter actually?
I learned a lot about hash crafts last night. That was really fun
But what's what's the Jupiter?
Give us the idea as crafts. Yeah
So, let me tell you with the TLDR on Jupiter
So basically this was actually one of the biggest airdrops in crypto history it was fucking actually massive
It's sitting at I think like a six billion dollar FTV right now. Jupiter is the most popular swap on on Solana and
I know what it is
So, how did you get what qualified you for the airdrop just like Solana activity well, I think it's calling for a certain date
Just trading so anybody who who was swapping on Jupiter for the past, you know, God knows how long qualified for it
There were a few different tiers. I only call I qualified for one of the the lower tiers
But it was so nice to get the airdrop and but I do know some people that traded like a million dollars plus if not more
On on Jupiter and they they print it today. They did really really well
I mean, that's like the unit like the unit swap airdrop was so insane if you were if you had been doing it for a while
It's like similar similar principle
The Ponzi nomics here actually very impressive if you think about this so
Jupiter incentivized
Training volume which burn Solana
Effectively burning Solana into Jupiter. It was that's a very brilliant executions
Okay, all right well look I I changed I changed the title because
You know, normally I I'm down to ruffle a couple feathers. These are not some feathers
I want to ruffle if I'm being a hundred percent honest with you guys
So I changed the title. Maybe we'll get me out in here. Maybe not but um
You want to talk about Rafik and at all I would rather fucking talk about Algorand if I'm being honest with you
That's Kara moochie
So on another news Jupiter drops actually does sound interesting
Did you guys?
Did any of you guys participate in crypto the game today?
Can you tell me about that?
I saw the drama where the the person created 200 bots and then they were essentially removed from the game and they lost 50 grand
What was up with that?
Wait that happened
Yeah, isn't that what you're referencing? I
Didn't know about the drama part I didn't know that that someone created that many bots and
Got kicked cuz that's
Interesting. Yeah, I was kind of fucked honestly because there was no outline in the rules that you can't specifically do that
So, I mean, I don't know every
Yeah, I mean so we have this really cool bot protection mechanism. We built on our team
It's really hard like bought like you if you do something in a fully web 3 native way
It is almost impossible to stop bots unless you have like a some sort of web 2-off
Interface that either allows a mint like there's without going into the details
It seems like they probably just launched this not knowing that it would be popular and then it became popular
What's weird is that they?
disqualified
the botter
But like I imagine if I if I was on their team, I wouldn't have anticipated it
I would have needed to disqualify the botter immediately and come up with a solution later
Like if I was in their shoes, I don't think like didn't necessarily made a bad choice
It like there is a web 2 component in that you need to connect your Twitter. Otherwise, it doesn't work
so like I don't necessarily think like
Them kicking a barter from the competition is a
Is a bad thing though? I it's not decentralized, right?
But also like neither is this fucking project that you go into it knowing what you're getting into type of thing
I guess I don't know. I think the bottom is just dumb
You see someone fat fingered a punk today Blau for I also did see I did see that and I
can't help but feel like
That's just a stunt. Was it a washer because the watch I heard he had exactly that amount in his wallet
So yeah, it seems like that's just a stunt to me
Well, you know that you took the sixty five thousand dollar loss on your taxes in April. Maybe all right
Well, well just because you
Transfer it to yours. Yeah, if you're buying it from your own wallet and you can prove that
There's not really a tax consequence to be honest. No, so what's the point of the stunt? There's a tax benefit
I'm saying if you can pretend that someone else
If you if you pretend that
Then you're doing a lot of other legal things
But like if you buy if you just buy something from yourself in crypto
I get theoretically triggers a taxable event
But like but also not and there's like the weird thing is lost harvesting season would be
December not now, but yeah, I just came to a different wallet and making it a sale just a troll
Yeah, I think it's like I definitely think I mean, that's the thing with crypto punks, right?
Is there's no the only cost of trading it to yourself as gas?
No, maybe it's a more like maniacal direction. And if you didn't call it out, he would be
I just can't come out with you serious. Okay
Update I cannot take and be seriously with the trash punk. I just can't I'm sorry, dude
Again, neither. Can I? Okay, just quick update quick update
Shout out to me out we're gonna do the space but not tonight. So we're chatting in telegram right now
should be I
Need to be more careful. I just could recognize I need to be more careful about the titles
I think I've just been doing them for so long that it's just like almost second nature to just write the most
Inflammatory like egregious titles that I can
Just for people who might be listening who are unfamiliar with the titles
This is gonna sound super cringe, but this is actually how I think about them
One obviously outrage marketing works and it is what it is
I'm just being entirely honest, but to I do look at our titles as almost conceptual art and commentary on like the overly negative
Mindset that exists on the timeline and that's how I've always thought about it
I think the titles work because I am pretty positive and rarely fud anything and
I just like think that that's why it's so like that's why it's so effective because people come in they see the titles and they're
Like yo, what the fuck fuck this leap got that's literally how I met Frank
That's how I met Frank and it's like it got honestly the titles kind of
Took me down this path of like really ingraining myself into Solana to the point that I now work for a Solana company
So going forward I'm gonna try to be a little bit more responsible with the titles
Yeah, cuz not everybody knows that we do that every time but anyway
I talked it to me out in the end on telegram and we're cool
so I think we're gonna try and run a space this week, but they're fucking super busy today and
Understandably, so so anyway crisis averted. I'm not gonna lie guys. I was sweating
I was fucking sweating that I've not felt that way in a while. So at least we could get a result lately
With Deanie or when?
No, no, no with that. I'm with me out. Oh, I forgot. I did
It's your art right if it's your art. Should you even?
Be it should even like care what people think if it's your artwork keep the titles
Right. If it's your art form, right? You said it's your art. It's your creativity. It's what gives us
Should even care right because as an artist who the hell it cares
I mean, maybe Justin knows better because he's a musician or asked Marilyn Minter
She was doing some graphic shit for a while that she would be more than happy to keep doing
Oh, they made her pivot real hard. So sensual still section. I don't know what that has to do
Got a question mark at the end. You're just asking questions leap, you know, so, okay
I I agree Cal I I do look at it as my art
but I do need to kind of be an adult about this and I do work with a like I work for a company and
When you do work for a company like it's important to be
Mindful that like the actions that you take can have an effect on the other people that are involved and I'm not just like an independent
Party basically operating just like freely like going all over the place
Who the fuck do you work for bro? Do you even read the timeline? I know I have no idea. Is it for oak?
He's not he's on payroll now, bro. So he's he's he's not he's not in control anymore, dude
He's on the hamster wheel now. Oh my fucking god. I literally can't the wagie cage. No, I literally can't do this with you guys
I feel like I just get bullied. I feel like my spacer is just like me getting bullied for three hours
Worked for hell of moon. I put out a tweet about it earlier today and I fucking love them. Honestly
It's it's such a great company to work for they just they just get it
They just like really understand they just get it like there's another way to put it
What does our PC stands for bro? You're acting like I even know what leap stands for like it
I don't know what anything stands for these days. I'm very happy for you leap
Talk about how did the hell did you come up? Oh my god. Okay. This is not all about me wolf. Go ahead. What's up?
Wait, what's the potato chip? I
Want to go to bed this is a disaster. What's up wolf?
Yo, yeah, I don't mean to make us about you. But what are you doing for? Hello moon?
Like kind of with your background like, you know, you're heavy on community. I kind of look at your expertise of like kind of mastering
Kind of people and the understanding of the psych of kind of the web 3 communities
So I didn't know like how that translated or what you're doing over there
That's a good question. I figured I'd have to kind of address it here
So a lot of the work that I do just has to do with like operating the business from a leadership role
Managing the different clients the different projects and not just a lot of things on a higher level
And just like making sure things get done day-to-day from an organizational standpoint as well
So and then obviously I I would say that a large percentage of my quote-unquote like expertise or like what I'm good at is
Just having an a finger on the pulse and like understanding what's happening on a day-to-day basis
And then having like a decent impact on the cultural side, too
So those those things can be really beneficial to any company as well
I think so when I when I initially put out a tweet
I got a lot of DMS when people said are you doing spaces for them?
So on and so forth actually my position has very little if not almost nothing to do with with media or or spaces at all
Just do spaces personally. That's kind of like my own thing
Which is nice. I was talking about this the other day. I
Think I actually was saying this last night
I think I think if the next two years pass by and the only thing I can say about myself is that I was a good
Spaces host and I fucking failed
Like that is just not
the only thing that I want to do and I'm very interested in building on the infrastructure side and learning more about that side
of crypto too and
Yeah, I've been working at hello moon now for almost a month and a half and it's it's a lot like we I'm my first meetings
are at 6 a.m. In the morning all the way up to 6 p.m. At night and then you know spaces afterwards, but
I like working
also, I've said it a million times like I'm really bullish on jobs in the space and I think people should take that like
if there's an opportunity to
You know like work with a company and a group of people that you respect and that you can learn a lot from you
Definitely should take that opportunity
Somebody mentioned drug radio earlier. I haven't met I haven't said this on spaces
I guess all I haven't even said it on the timeline, but I guess I'll say it here
So I'm not with rug radio anymore. I fucking love them. Broke is awesome
Quinn Locksley, they're they're absolutely incredible and they they treated me really well
They gave me a deal in the midst of a bear market which helped me continue to survive in LA and things like that
Yeah, I don't know
I just didn't want like I just kind of wanted to kind of do my own thing with the spaces thing and
I was very interested in like working for how on moon so I just like made the decision
So I'm not like an official rug radio creator anymore
I probably will still do some work with them in the future
Maybe some content whatever it is, but in like an official capacity. No, I'm not with them anymore, but I fucking love them
They're they're awesome and I could not be more bullish on what they're doing. So that's a huge congrats
Appreciate you
God can I show can I show two things really quick that are non non speculative things?
Fucking if you're not already on Farcaster
It is the better version of crypto Twitter if you want to learn anything about real stuff and not just token prices
Join Farcaster Vitalik posts pretty regularly
Honestly, you might even be able to talk to Vitalik because there's not that many I mean
There are a lot of people on there on Farcaster today, but it's still a new community
It's non-speculative, but there's a lot of cool shit
Get a lot of free tokens that may or may not be worth anything
But the quality of the conversation is so much greater than Twitter and I've honestly been spending way more time there
Then here on the feet at least I'm just reading other people's really fun stuff
So that's chill number one. Also, I'm friends with the founder and I think he's one of the best
Builders in crypto he used to be
Had a product at Coinbase and then went on to do this
So I'm a big fan and they've been having a moment right now
So worth mentioning the other thing I would chill is Chris Dixon's new book that just came out
Called read write own if you want to know anything about crypto, it's basically the new Bible for crypto
So I highly recommend buying and reading that book. It is absolutely fantastic
And this is all very real interpretations of what's going on
Let's be real non speculative
Interpretations of what's happening. So if you care about the technology and not just an airdrop I
Although you probably get some airdrops on park after I would highly recommend those two things that I have no vested interest in whatsoever
I'm not even an investor in Farcaster
But I I'm a big believer in what they're doing and I'm a big believer in this book
What was it? Why did they call for?
Farcast over them and you go to it. It's called war P cast
So Farcaster is the protocol it is literally a decentralized social protocol and warp caster is a client
But if you wanted to build your own client, you could Oh warp
Yeah, yeah, so warp warp caster is is just a predominant client for far caster, which is the protocol
It's quite literally a decentralized social network
like and it's built with
Care, let's call it and that's why I think it's really popping lately
All right. Well just downloaded it. So we'll see
Yeah, I'm just not interested in doing another social media app. Like I'm just not like there's not a social media app
It's the only decentralized social network. It's not an app
The app is how you interact with the network, but it's the only like truly crypto social media network
Yeah, I'm just not like it there's just like you can't be into a fucking airdrop swap token on Solana and not be into like
one of the most
revolutionary blockchain innovations of the year I
Dude, I think far casters. Also Jupiter is a lot more than just an airdrop token
Secondly, like what do you want me to do start completely fresh on a brand new social media app? Like where is the upside there?
There's there's no upside. I'm sure that far castor is you can read what other smart people have to say that they're only saying
They're and nowhere else whether you have followers or not. Okay, that's true. That's fair
I only have it. I have only have like a thousand followers there
I don't know. It's not about how many followers you have like it's about the content that's there being high quality and learning
To be honest, I just saw your profile is that you leap on on I've supposed to link the top
Let me see
That is not me I don't did someone really take my name on fucking someone took my name and PFB on fire castle
I literally don't even have a forecaster account. That is not me
Yeah, it's literally not me and I'm under wonder who that is
Wolf what you probably you can get it. You can challenge it in the community. You can get it
What do I have to do like?
How do I get it back? I
Could not tell you because it hasn't happened to me, but I know how I can get it for you wait, isn't it decentralized though
Yes, but the the decentralized aspect is
The identity layer. It's not like the identity layer is not like ENS
It's a totally different system that they spend a lot of time like thinking about and building
It's unlike your handle is not it's just a front-facing thing
But when you create an account you have two addresses you have a wall address that's associated
With your farcaster account that's kind of a null address and then you can connect any other external wallet
The actual user ID part is not decentralized. It's not like ENS
In us even in and of itself is not really a decentralized naming service by name
This is like a whole there's a whole can of worms, but the in the event someone is
impersonating you leap
There is a real a non crypto database of usernames. I don't know what their policy is on impersonation, but
They wouldn't like
How do I explain it's not like ENS? I don't I don't know it's also possible that you can't get at leap
It is also possible
So I really genuinely don't know cuz I don't think it's happened that much
I mean we could reach out to Dan and ask
Yeah, Dan might say it's impossible, but like I also know it works a little bit differently
Wolf what's up?
Yeah, I was gonna ask another question about your job, but I don't know I don't want to derail it
That's can I gamble on this?
Gamble on on farcaster. Yeah, can I can I just like rent? Yeah, can I gamble on social media accounts and like get a
You know a strong curve like can I
Can I do that you mean like social phi? That's not what it's built for
So I shouldn't use it
You Jonah you're sarcastic, but somehow 90% of the room misses it you got to work on your tone or something
No, I like it. Jonas is like he's a he's a ball enterprising man
He's like can I make can I make some bags off of it if I can't that I'm not interested
My sarcasm is a lot like autism. I mean
You prize a lot of worth out of your network, right Jonah
Not really. I mean, yeah, you do you know?
You regularly shits on me in the DM's he says for your fucking project get the fuck out of real agents
And I'm kidding. Joe does
John I started a new all right. This is the worst content. I've ever produced in my entire life
Wait, wait, I was gonna talk to Jonah leap. God damn it Jonah
Handle in the DM. We we need to have some actual conversation here
I'm fucking shut it down the space because we can't just be like it
It's like everyone's just like jumping in squirting whatever like we haven't talked about one topic
And we want to talk about Jupiter we can talk about Jupiter
There's also the FTX stuff to talk about
What else happened today, let's see
Yeah, I mean I feel like those topics should really can
like really just take I think that's actually a really good angle because
Jupiter is a really it's a product that we really need
So maybe the topic of what other products do we actually need in like different layer one ecosystems that need to get built?
What do you guys think I have two ideas more gambling protocols
None. No, okay. I have two small contract ideas that anyone can have this is open source
Do whatever you want with it one is a prenuptial agreement. So it's a multi-signature wallet between two parties and
either party can send a transaction which will divide all the assets in the wallet in half and send it to
Pre-determined wallet. So this takes away. Wait, that's it
That's not how it works though. It would that's right. Usually the woman takes everything
Okay, no, no wait. This is actually really this is actually
Dividing the assets in half is is not protecting the assets in a prenup. That's
About it as like a non-traditional prenup like it's a crypto prenup, you know what I mean?
Divorce a crypto divorce exactly that core case where they divided the beanie babies
Yeah, the same thing
Did I have digital is this a product we need keep going Nick hold on
So the idea is to make money Wow, I guess thanks to the idea
You just maybe take a 1% or 2% settlement fee in the event that they do
Divorce the contract creator. Hopefully us
The second idea is a inheritance smart contract. So
Vitalik brought this up probably like in 2017
So yet there are two things one is called proof of life
And so he screenshotted a picture or dig a picture of himself
next to a
Nonsense, which is just a random transaction hash which shows that he was alive at least until that transaction
So that's proof of life. Now proof of death is a different one. That was in the same post
Basically, if you don't sign a transaction at least once per year
you're assumed to be dead and so your crypto instead of being lost is
Divided to your heirs at whatever predetermined rate. What if you're in a coma?
Well, you can establish it to be six years or hopefully your air
There's actually something that already I could could do that which is your exploits
Zero doing splits on it
Unchained it death certificate. And then what do you call you have like a chain link Oracle searching for that and then on chain power of authority
I got it. I have an idea
And so he'll be saying team the contract creator gets 1% of the estate
Okay, maybe I mean not for my estate but you know for a biggest state it would be
Well to divide everything so there's not a complicated
Succession fight over your inheritance. It might be worth. I don't know. I don't know what the market would be
Imagine imagine
version of the show succession and then
I'm playing some of the soundtrack. I don't want to play it yet because I haven't perfected it but leave
I miss them. We used to play piano together like a year ago. It's small. We just jammed
But I had some things I wanted to say we unless you want to just steer the conversation
Yeah, I'm chain prison donations
I'm not gonna lie focus guys that fucking Jupiter. I'm just being honest like that Jupiter shit shook me and I just can't
Did you make money?
No, I fucking
Meow screen shot at the space because we had a crazy title and I got dunked on in the fucking DMS by okay
Okay, but you made up now. So calm down
Don't know poorly, but I still think it's stupid, but I know okay bears is launching a collection on each we could talk about that
Oh, they do have the okay dogs. I did see that
Do you guys see that?
Why it's and it's a whole like I talked about this in the last space
I was in like you have to go through a whole circus rigmarole to like
Unlock the ability to reveal a rare dog on ease. It's
Kai's I just
Kai's I hold up Kai's isn't Kai's is in the space. I'll invite him up
But I'm just different from a bow dago bring him up. I want to talk to him
I actually fucking like
Really people might get mad. Okay dogs and bow dago should form good dogs down. This is dog
Okay, can we just all right we do we have to like go back to the hand structure like this is getting ridiculous
I actually like okay bears
And I'm interested to see what they're doing with this this new drop and like what the thought process is behind it guys
If you want to come up you're more than welcome to obviously no pressure
I do want to go to some of these hands here and we can maybe discuss this a little bit further
We got Brian up here Brian. Talk to me. What are you thinking?
There we go now one minute. Hey, so I've been really thinking a lot about boy scouts and charities and crypto and then
Building a construct kind of like this will idea but essentially letting charities kind of spread the information
Boy Scouts going door to door with that QR codes where they get a certain percentage of the token
Okay, we said that the token is a token
Okay, we said that the boy Scouts go with the token and they yeah
They got a QR code and they get two percent of like the steak beef that they sell. I
Can't do business. I already I'm an after-school teacher. I don't want to do another fucking job with kids
No, no, you don't have to you don't have to but I'm talking about like steak beef and some of these like
Token sets and steak token like juke or whatever
Like I just feel that when you start to go into the real world with these contracts and oracles
Donations and charities are just like a number one like throughput like it's a distribution technique
Like the I was literally having a conversation tonight about like the America online CDs
Like somebody is gonna bring back like mail order
Distribution technique to like, you know wealthy neighborhoods in America. It's coming
You mean red box?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the American online CDs like get into st eth right and it's in a postcard and it goes to like
high values zip codes
Charity like keep it as simple as possible. We have a great example in the hyped foundation from
From gentle tornado like keep keep it as easy as possible
to use on chain to donate don't make it complicated because that just
Makes it harder for people to go through the motion of actually donating their their funds
actually, there's a fantastic tool that
He's called the giving block and
You can use that to get you know tax break on your donations fantastic
I mean, yeah that exists also that's been around for like three or four. Yeah, it's been around since clubhouse. They're great. Yeah
Um, I'm just highlighting someone we actually know personally in the space who has a great charity
Go ahead bad brothers
Are we talking about the Bears
Yeah, I'm down to talk about the Bears. I want to talk about the Bears
But I want Kai's to come up with us. He you know, he'll come up if he feels like it
What do you think about brother
Yeah, I read the thing and it was like, you know, there's a few steps in there
But let me let me put the teeth. Let me put the tweet up for everybody. Hold on
Well, no see what happens with it, I mean, what do you call I know
Because I was in a bunny space lesson, you know
Like a couple people said like what a arcade bears do and I know I heard
kind of talking a few spaces and detailed some of the stuff to work on and everything so I'm like
Um, you know in terms of just price action, it's probably like, you know, not the best time
But maybe they're like rolling stuff out
So, you know, that'd be hella bullish. But um, yeah, I'll keep an open mind. I'll see what they do
All right, guys the people I've asked and you're up here appreciate you hopping up. All right, talk to me. Talk to me about these dogs
Yeah, they're nice-looking dogs that are coming to eat
As simple as that
Wait, hold up. They're they're on Eve. Yes. Yes on the theory
Okay, so that's that's an interesting choice. Why on you?
I think we kind of did this two years ago when we were gonna mental so and people are like why on so and then
You know, we're here two years later
but I just think it's extremely important to be on the top three chains if you
If you kind of want to build a brand that's going to make it in the real world
You got to make sure that you're able to break the boundaries between
Chains to start with there's a lot of big opportunities on all sorts of chains
There's for us specifically there's many brands that
Build on a specific chain and not another and so to be able to have the infrastructure to tie everything together on Bitcoin
Salon and if the earm is quite valuable for what we're trying to achieve
Think that's fair
What has been the reception so far with the dogs? You think it's positive negatives? Like what are the holders saying?
I mean the holders have known that this is coming for maybe two and a half months and what we've changed recently is
We basically just got the community on board
So a lot of what's been rolling out now has passed through a few different rounds of conversation and revision
With them and I think almost everybody is
Completely on board with this the reception yesterday was actually quite mad
Like we dropped a I don't know a 10-second video and it just went ballistic
and I'm quite surprised with that if I'm entirely honest, but I think um
People know that if you're gonna take a gamble on a profile picture from okay bears
You know, it's going to be clean as hell and I'm really looking to kind of release the art
Specifically because it tackles a lot of things that
Bears don't do but more importantly, it's like a year and a half of learning
Genning color theory what people like to PFP why people don't read bears
Yeah, it's also like not a massive collection
We're also kind of like going through uncharted territory in terms of like there's no clear hierarchy between the bear and the dog
So just continuing to explore really because it feels like we present that all the narratives have been written
It really is just you know, fuck around and find out and I'm just gonna do that
Okay, well we have a couple hands here I'll throw it to Jonah Jonah, what do you think?
Yeah, all right. I'll put my serious pants on no more no more jokes
All right, real question
So do you feel like you've explored the okay bears brand?
deep enough to justify a second collection because I see this problem with a lot of collections where
there's so much more room to explore what the IP can become and
oftentimes though they'll dilute pretty quickly usually within an eight-month span and
create a whole new IP and
I don't know. I just feel like
There's probably a lot more you could do with the okay bears brand. Do you feel like what are your thoughts on that?
I think alien friends did it really well
Because the evolutions had a lot of different traits and some people thought the art was even better
Not everyone executes perfectly on second collections. It does certainly dilute you but you're collecting royalties on
It's um, it's interesting. I think this is a narrative that
I think we we assume that it's written
But the reason why the new character is being introduced so that it can actually expand the okay universe
And now it's coming from a place of intense research through IMG
About how you can grow the bears and how you can grow the okay universe
And so the introduction of this extra character is far less. Hey, here's a shiny thing
let's forget about the other thing and more continuing to
Expand what we're now calling the the okay universe specifically from a storytelling perspective because it's really important to understand
the personality and kind of age group of the bears and how they behave and
If you are going to make it down that line
The storytelling doesn't shouldn't be vanilla. So you do need a bit of an antihero. You do need a
Different approach to the same brand message
I think a really good way to clarify it from a demand perspective is
Looking at kind of like the dove and axe relationship where both products are from the same company and probably almost contain the same thing
But they speak so polarizingly to very different target audiences
Ultimately, it is extremely valuable for the company that actually runs them
So from a licensing perspective from a B to B perspective
it is necessary to continue expanding the universe and then from a
Personal identity and digital perspective which I continue to be very very big on
There's a very decent subset of people just don't resonate with bears and that's pretty cool
But if you're able to introduce a different character that people can express themselves through
You know a little bit better than bears. I think ultimately that's going to
You know continue to expand and grow the brand and the last thing that I will say is the vast majority of
Collections in the top, you know, 10 15
PFP use have well over 25 30,000 profile pictures and okay bears are still at 10
And the plan for growth for the dogs is not to over dilute the supply
It's just to introduce something different. So even with the dogs launching I still see us as one of the very very small
undiluted PFP collections in the top 15 20
I'm trying to be better about not being an asshole. So I don't have a therapist
Really working on this, how do I think?
So my first question was do you feel like you've developed the
Characters deep enough and then you brought up IMG and an IMG is a lot like WME where they help you if you're successful
And they don't help you if you don't if you aren't they don't really care, right? So
All right, I'm thinking of how to ask this
Do you since you mentioned a story?
Do you have a hero's journey sort of storyline here? Do you have like a protagonist a core antagonist that you've already developed?
Do you have like a comic? Is it like a TV show thing? Like
Right, like I guess the thing is everyone wants to kind of copy you go
I'm not saying you're doing that where they do like 20 different collections and then they get the other side and the whole thing and
I've always been like pressing collections now like hey like we're in a new cycle. Is there something else you could do?
That's that's unique. That's not about diluting the collection
So I guess like what is what is the okay universe story? Like can you give us a log line a synopsis?
Yeah, the story is I mean, that's what we've been working on for the last year and a half
Essentially with the same move to Bitcoin
The story about the Bears is being inspired by the story of the blockchain
So a really quick ones. I don't bore everybody out, but we did move some bears over to aetherium
if you look at the
If you look at my PFP, there are some bears with glow eyes. The antagonist in the world for okay is actually the light itself
the bears basically
Interact with the light in very different ways. The light is neither sinister or
Or positive
And the story is being written around the different blockchains as if they're different universes different points in time
So there's a lot of work that's happening around that and the introduction of the dogs
Is that antagonist that doesn't exist in the world of bears because um, if you look at all 10k bears
They are all very very okay
And something needed to be shaken up to ensure that you know, this universe actually takes off from a content production perspective
Are we currently working on this thing in house? No, I think from day one we've
We very much expressed that we're gonna grow the okay brand through licenses
So, you know when it comes to clothing the first one on the board was Zara when it comes to content
I'm not promising anything at the moment, but that's the direction that we're looking to take
Okay, yeah, I got no I got no other questions your honor, let's just see what happens
I'm low it's up
Yeah, I mean
I'm kind of having deja vu because I feel like I have this conversation with Kai a few months back when I told him
That it probably wasn't a good idea to dilute his
Collection with another collection and I think it's really interesting that they went with dogs. I'm not I'm not trying to diss
Okay, bears at all. I just think that like it is
Interesting because you get did that as well. I'm like you also now have bodhago. So I wonder if the market is
Oversaturated with dogs right now
the other thing that I'm gonna say is that like as
Jonah was saying before I don't know that like okay bears has actually fully
Explored all of the avenues that they could have for the OG collection
So I would love to see what this secondary collection is gonna bring to the okay universe
Okay, let's get some clarity on the
On the we haven't explored
Do we feel that the introduction of a new character is like the halting of bears all together?
Cuz I'm not sure where the reference comes from but that's really not not it for us. I think we look at
Bears dogs and decimals as a part of the okay universe and they all kind of feed in and help grow each other
I think on the on the dilution again, that is that is a very
Interesting, you know choice of words. We've had this for a while. We've had to discuss it with our community
We look at it more as an expansion of the brand than a dilution of the ecosystem
Specifically because of the very very low number of NFTs in our specific ecosystem
How many pieces are in this new collection because I remember you saying 20,000 now
It's it's not declared, but it's a lot less than that
And we have been listening, you know
like when people talk on spaces we take notes we speak with the community and I think you will be kind of positive positively surprised when
it comes to the numbers, I think very pleasantly surprised when it comes to the art because
It does break the mold. So it's not a pet. It's not a mutant
It's literally just a different way of expressing what's okay or what's not okay
Through the profile picture use and on the dogs
I think I mean, I'm I'm good friends with easy and we're cooking up some cool labs as we speak
But they're on so we're on eath
And yeah, we're gonna have a lot of fun with that
I think it's pretty cool. I'm not super I don't really adhere too much like the dilution thing
I think that's kind of blown out of proportion with most collections if I'm being honest
There there are times where it's like pretty obvious that something is being can I explain what I mean by that?
It's not up. I'm not talking about it from a price standpoint. Can I so?
Like very briefly and I am trying to be a more constructive criticism person. So let me let me explain
Like again, the every story is predicated on the hero's journey
and I've heard this story often of
We are such-and-such and the story is about you know
The chain and DeFi and like what it means to be an NFT
And I find that to not really work because other people have tried it and that narrative works really well
when you're an ordinal or you're like a
Unique collection in a time period where you're the first which I recall
Okay bears that is not the case for your project at least from my perspective, right?
I've recalled your Genesis all the way to now
and so I would challenge you to kind of think of a story that
You can use blockchain as your back end
But like I don't understand why the universe is around and about the blockchain because oh, yeah
It's I mean first of all, I don't know what these guys have done to you Jonah
I like the previous role one so you can unleash
Corporate corporate told me I have to stop fighting you good because then I'll start start losing money
So now I have to be well, they said I'm allowed to fund them
But I have to do it constructively because apparently I got mad and called my boss
We're not you got to start with but um, yeah, you know in that case what the fuck
Why the fuck are you diluting? It doesn't make any sense. There we go on the story
I mean that would be really fucking lame if we're like, ooh the bears travel to Bitcoin
It the story doesn't like the the overall hero journey does not mention technology at all
There's no mention of like Bitcoin and aetherium. Everything is inspired and written into a world. That's got just none of this shit
so for example, the the the bridge to
the bridge to Bitcoin is you know is basically the light in that story or the whole moving change narrative and then
Those changes specifically are you know, again different times and different places
So yeah, tell you why that makes no sense to me cuz I cuz I have a pretty good memory
I tend to have a pretty good memory when I remember about okay bears is
The whole story was it was like a therapy collection like it's gonna be okay
and and so like my thought your story was
effectively
You were a collection of kind of around the idea of mental health
Well, I you know now your sports which is fine whatever you want to do that
But I always thought that you had a really interesting angle
You're like we're a collection about people who are open to talking about their feelings and who they are what they want to do
And I don't see how blockchain has anything to do with that storyline. It's just a back-end thing. I think it's um
See visibility is a really big thing and it's probably down to me because like I'd rather do shit on the computer than like tweet
And hop on spaces, but um when it comes to like the existence of okay bears
We continue to work with Movember read than the United Nations to like make strides when it comes to that
so this year and last year we basically with Movember we
Besides raising money, but we released bears with mustaches that all our
holders basically wrapped on Twitter and Instagram and we shared positive messaging about the mental health of men and looking after people in the space
So that's not something that we're like shirking away and then with red. It's the same thing. So like in their
In their Christmas campaign, you can see the red version of the okay hoodie
Um, I think there were like a thousand billboards on in New York and LA
And at the moment because we're part of that family
there's some shoots happening for the red fiat and the red Vespa and um in both ads you've got like people repping the
Okay hoodie and like you look at that. It just says okay and red
So it's very much focused on the brand itself
But the introduction of dogs specifically, so there's one thing with this
Okay brand that feels very inhibiting to me, which is the nine
Import I think very
Be able to assertively say what's not okay in the same way that you can gracefully say what is okay
And then introducing a new tone of voice to the brand that is a little bit more
Brash and raw first of all, it's gonna allow us to do very very different things with licensing
but more importantly on a personal level that's gonna allow me to fucking express myself a little bit better because
Even though we did build a brand that is, you know, very sweet and cute
But there's a big part of me that like just you know wants to call shit out as it happens
Which is why I'm like, I don't know what corporate did to you, but don't lose that. It's just um, it's
Don't worry
Give me three days
See, I wish you would started with that cuz that's that is way more interesting to me than hearing like it's about the chain
Like nobody actually gives a fuck about the chain. It's for gambling
Okay, like it's just there like I want I like the story that you're talking Bad Brothers
You don't count you don't believe in government. So what I'm talking about
Yeah, see there you go what I'm talking about. So here's like, um, I don't think you need my advice
but if you do dilute I
Hope that you stick to the story. You just told me which is like each collection has a different emotion and
The brand is about like the different emotions you can wear
That to me is way more interesting from a brand perspective than like guys. We're on ETH now. That's so cool, right?
Like that's just I'm so tired. I'm so fucking tired of hearing brands being like guys. We've we've moved to a new chain
We're cool, right? And it's just it's just fucking terrible and I I sent any project to zero that uses that as a marketing tactic
It's just boring. Yeah, no, that's that's completely fair enough. I think I was kind of addressing the questions at the start but um
See when we were gonna introduce again this tone of voice that frees us up a little bit
I mean, maybe you don't care
maybe the audience doesn't care but like the okay bears brand does not drop f-bombs or
It's just like so fucking PG to the point where it actually gets frustrating a little bit because again
Sometimes you do need the bite which is, you know
Funny with dogs and picking bones and all that other crap that you can turn into marketing
but specifically like we did not want to
Drop that thing on Solana as well
Cuz they're like there was no need a hundred percent
But we're like if we are going to expand the tone of voice if we're gonna allow more people to express themselves through okay
Then we'll also do it on another chain so that you know, there's a point of difference
We're preaching different audiences. We're building with different tech on and all the rest of it
But I just think when it comes to the number of the collection
I think you guys are gonna be pleasantly surprised and yeah, just kind of
Branding brand expression personal identity
It's it's kind of what I studied and and worked on for like more than 10 years
So if there's one area in the world where we are kind of confident and we know we can do it
It's it's it's only this one
Yeah, anyway
Well, look I appreciate the back and forth between you guys we have like other couple hands we have ruto up on here
I haven't talked to ruto in a while ruto. What are you thinking?
Oh damn I was I I raised my hand late and I was like damn I don't think he'll come to me just yet
But it's fine. We're here. I appreciate you
Picking me to come up here, man. Um, yeah Kai's pleasure talking with you again Jonah
I think you were giving pretty solid
Constructive criticism actually, I'm really proud of you. You've come a long way
from just
Yeah, yeah in the three hours
I don't know man. Maybe maybe you're relaxed and moisturized and you're in a good mood
Who knows but Kai's I actually so I heard about this someone we were talking talking about in a group chat
Oh, have you guys seen what? Okay bears is looking to do and I think a lot of us have seen this too
And it's a problem that even a lot of my normie friends, right?
Whenever they know or find out I work in what three or do stuff with NFTs
Most of them don't really get it and a big problem that they have is well
The only real value that you can probably get for most NFTs the way we see it is that it's usually recursive
So like the only value would get is by earning or getting more NFTs out of owning an NFT
And I always say like oh, no, it's like it's more than that or it can be more than that
Right, but then I've been seeing that far more lately
Is that there's been a lot of projects from 2021 or 2022 that haven't really found?
Like a product market fit with with how they want to generate revenue or something like that and mind you
Generating revenue with a character IP
especially like a one that's so nuanced and just stuck in like this this bubble where
We're all basically just consumers trading capital one another and then every so often we get like mass
Extraction in the form of like new mints or whatever it is
so we all already know that
Generating revenue with a character IP is difficult and then what we're probably going to be seeing the rest of this year
If not, what we've seen already is that previous NFT founders just end up minting more NFTs
And it's mainly because either they're running out of money or they're finding it
difficult to find a reasonable way to generate some revenue with the IP is
Is that is that kind of like an aspect as to like why you want to do a separate collection or or
Like I'm just curious and maybe you guys have touched on this. So I'm just asking we haven't it's a very good question
I think one of the very very big reasons that okay be you know
Isn't very loved is the fact that like we don't need the money
Like we've just managed Treasury very very well. We stabled up and sold before it went to eight eight dollars
and this genuinely really is about
Expanding
The brand but I think the reason why this one has a price point because I think people actually
Appreciate things that you pay a tiny bit for more than things that you just drop entirely for free
But over the past two years
We've kind of just continued exploring different ways to add
Add value to all the holders one kind of funny one that stuck a little bit
We we went and purchased around like half a million dollars of gold and then created this like gold coin
Collection which is basically inspired by like real
Numismatic coins because you know you buy a gram of gold but it's got a picture of a Mickey Mouse on it and suddenly it's worth
10 times the gram of gold
So we've got something called founders coins that we air dropped for free for all 10,000 bears
And you know, you can get anything from like 0.25 grams to like 10 grams
And you know like their weight their weight in gold quote-unquote
We actually went and minted our own physical gold coin that should be released in like a month
That people can kind of redeem. I think it's really the only one with like not the face of the queen on it
But like an okay bear which is ridiculous
But anyway, like it is what it is so we have been for the last two years
Just showering our holders with like free drops. So when it came to moving the okay bears to
Bitcoin we also did that for free
We also bought the like block nine sets and paid for the gas for everybody to move them and then we dropped it
1k collection of decimals also entire if you're free to our holders like it's just been you know, have it all and
We were we were part of the
Lots of royalties on Solana like a year ago. So like as soon as royalties came back again
We like we're not really like because I keep saying things like we don't need the money
But we gave all the royalties in the first month back to like 10 lucky holders who shared like life stories about being okay
I think the person that won it
basically lost their mom and has been
Going to shelters every year on the anniversary and like helping kids out and stuff and I could be wrong
But it was like I know like 120 K or something divided over 10 people
So really when it comes to these dogs it is it is not about you know, the money
Yes, it's gonna be great and and all the rest of it, but I mean that's never really been
In our frame of reference
We've also like haven't done an actual race
And haven't minted anything since bear. So yeah from from that point
I think we're we're okay and this is generally just about sitting on this damn art for like a year and a half and thinking
Yeah, maybe Eve is not at the best time now, but this belongs somewhere and it's it's too clean
Keep gonna keep it on the computer
Yeah, and like I figured you guys were probably doing well Treasury wise
I remember seeing just recently actually job postings just floating around where you were hiring
You know devs and stuff like that and the salaries you guys mentioned all there were like pretty significant
So I figured you guys weren't like broke or anything
but I think the last bit of criticism I'll add to what Jonah was mentioning and again take it with a grain of salt because
I'm just some bozo on the internet who's not a founder either, but
I I always tell or a lot of people probably say you probably shouldn't have another collection unless you have
You know pretty accurate
Or like you you have an accurate like gauge on how much demand you have for your current Genesis collection
So it's like okay whenever the demand outperforms like the supply in which NFTs are available
then sure like a second collection makes sense or
At least a cheaper entry point for like those who want to be part of the ecosystem
Therefore now can so I think that's always like a good route to go
But I think if you I think the okay bears
I remember when they first minted man like the mania that was happening with okay bears and like the onboarding you guys did
From eat eat people talk to Solana was like pretty incredible. Actually, I think just I'm ring
I'm gonna ruffle some feathers judo. Yeah, so
I think is there incredibly crazy demand for bears at the moment?
I don't think so, but that is such a layered a question
you know you can you can add all the you know things that I'll take on the chin, but the I
Don't know if she'll be saying this on this face
but we're basically like a
Collection that says no to almost everything and the two biggest things we said no to is
Wash trading and insider trading so we do not market make we don't have market makers
And we refuse to have it, and then we just don't share alpha with whales of any size
And I think those two things have really just like not helped the way NFTs are played
But we look at demand a little bit differently
And I think if you kind of just married that
With the profile picture use of okay bears and the fact that you know we're
Sense on the dollar compared to all nine ten other collections above us, but we sit 10th, right?
We've rep Solana in like the top three sat behind
Board days for like six months and so there is demand and resignation for the brand specifically and then you know when you drop in
With 74 countries and then two days later you get fud you're like you know maybe we need to find our tribe
I think we've kind of we found all the people we can find on soul that really resonate what we're trying to build
You know there's no real casinos. There's no market making. There's no this there's no that
And it is about time
We kind of look a little bit outside to try and see where else we can find people that continue resonate with like the way
That we're doing things and like you know the why
For things that we do and I think combine that with the fact that
Okay bears are technically dads and moms
I mean if you look at the demographic data of like the people that use our software etc. It's well up into 30 plus
So I'm also aware that you know the fact that the collection is very sanitized the fact that
You know I carry myself a certain way
You know it's pretty off-putting for the vast majority of DJs in the space
And I think once once things start rolling out this is when my co-founder will step in a little bit more
He's the younger fella
You know the engineer not really good with words and doesn't take bullshit and so he's going to be the one
repping these dogs, and he's the one that's actually influencing the marketing strategy the
the music all the rest of it so that we ensure that that is built by an audience by
You know by a team that understands the audience because if it were kind of up to me
Then all these freaking dogs will be smiling and you know playing nice
So yeah, there's it's a little bit layered, but I think it's ultra fair to say hey
There's no demand from an NFT perspective on on bears. Yeah, that's yeah, dude. I mean look
I wish you I wish you the best I only ever really try to wish
Founders the best because I think we need more success stories regardless and at the end of the day the market will tell you whether
Or not it it was sticky enough and actually worked out
So I mean I wish you guys the best and I wish the community the best and I don't know
I'm excited to see the art. I guess so appreciate it, man
Thanks, Ruto go go what's up?
Hey, so I'm gonna repin the
actually like informative
Tweet about okay dogs to the top because that's what I want to talk with Kai's about
Less important to me is the little animation
Because it seems like
There is a really kind of overly complex
Root that you're asking holders to follow in order to even qualify
for allow list for a mint for this new collection
When you do have a lot of like og holders
Just kind of holding on to these bears
So you're asking them essentially to
Like promote the collection
Heavily on the timeline to qualify for these tickets
maybe mint more bears that have rarer skins to get more of these tickets and
Essentially, you need 300 tickets to even qualify
to unlock a potential dog on
Eth and so it seems like
Kind of like you're you're asking
Collectors that have held you guys for two years now
To do a lot of work
Yes, that's that's very fair. Um, let's talk about the nuance
I think um, the reason why this message was tweeted out of the okay bears account
not the dogs one is it's um, it's very much targeted towards the existing holders because um
There is there are some mechanics that are gonna free up public whitelist as we get newer and then you know
There's a couple of partners that come into play
But again, it's all about nuance man, and I know that this makes it hard
but if you are slightly familiar with the
With our history with the pump with where we are right now
It's actually really important that we look after the community that's been here for two years
versus a couple of bad actors that have actually
You know continue to sway the collection downward and so
By ensuring that if you're an active and engaged for the last six months
You are a hundred percent gonna be with us on the ride
Just really protects that we don't get into the same down
Look like you're rewarding old activity. It looks like you're you're
Sensivizing new activity. So on the this one's just an explanation, but a few things here
So when we launched the ticket system, we actually backdated it for a year
And now when we're gonna be launching rails, which are basically multipliers. It's gonna be a similar thing. So
It all all you kind of need to do from like an okay bears holder perspective is just be nice
Like literally, it's kind of it kind of that's like the best
Their bears unlocked
So wait, so I want to buy my girlfriend an okay dog because she really wants one
But yeah, but does that mean I need to get a bear first? No
So you can do it two ways if you do have bears again
We just need to take you through a couple of hoops to ensure that the supply doesn't get manipulated when people get their hands on
Dogs, so there's two ways to get that you can just hop on to like Magic Eden right now
And if you need if you see any bear with a medal, that's one that's been unlocked and relisted
And I think from from an economics perspective
I think that allows holders who have been there a while and have a lot of tickets to actually be able to you know
Make some buck on their unlock bears because they can you know unlock it list it for you know
A decent amount then pick up and a lock bear and do the same
So for you, you can just go to secondary or magic Eden find
Find anyone with a medal
Under its name and then you can just kind of pick that up and it's fully on and then the new the new collection is
Only available though if you own an okay bear
For now there's gonna be a public whitelist process
But we're just looking after our our community first, and that's because it's not gonna be a big collection
so the the the people that are gonna benefit most from
Going to be again the loyal holders of bears we've seen drops before where the supply is
Over inflated and technically the community is competing with the team. We don't want to do that again
It is far less about money for us
so we're just gonna ensure that you know like bears eat, but at some point they're gonna be a cutoff and then
Moving for a forward from that
There will be public whitelist happening
But they had to have been tweeting all these
Types of okay bears tweets and then submitting tickets in the discord
So again, this is pretty cool
But the the way the so we have call it a loyalty platform radio or collectors profile cult 3
I think that earns you most ticket is unsurprisingly just delisting your bear
You don't really need to be GMing
You don't need to be having a profile picture and you would have had enough to kind of unlock them
The other two are just you know, it's gamification and incentive
So if you do need some more tickets, then you can go down that route
But the vast majority of people just technically need to do nothing
Okay, because that's not the way this is outlined in the instructional tweet so that's why I had a lot of
Questions. Yeah, no and I can see how this um, I can see how it's been construed this way
So I'll go back to the drawing board with the team and ensure that you know
The next communication we put out actually speaks to the wider audience
Not you know the people that's been knee-deep in bears for like 18 months because it's pretty cool to see about like that
The whole world is watching
It's been a little bit of a while since that happened
Well, look I'll say this I know we got a couple hands up
One I appreciate you coming up and kind of weathering the storm up here, too
I'm bullish on any founders that are still here plain and simple the amount of founders that have left
staggering
And you guys have just been just been still here and just grinding away and making it happen
And dogs are my favorite animals. So maybe I'm a little biased there too. Bears are okay, too, but I think I have a preference for dogs
Now if you guys I'll be very bullish if you put a great Pyrenees within your collection with a trait called Hugo
And I will literally sweep. Okay bears if you do so, let me know
Sleep so I have a fun pet project
So if you send me a picture of them, I'm just gonna do a sketch and I want to get a scientific
Like genus and all that stuff. It's just a hot and but
I'm having of what of Hugo. I just I started with this a random gecko. I just want to
I will send you I'll send you a picture of Hugo and you can write a scientific biological sketch on it
Yeah, okay, I guess I'll throw it to the last two hands here and then we'll we can we can move on to the next thing
I'm bad brothers. What's up?
Yo, I'm sorry, I was looking at the bears on magic Eden
What I want to ask oh, yeah, so you were talking about
You know building the story and adding a new character and that like
What do you see like this story going like you think you guys are gonna have more characters?
It's just like a you know significant opposite character
Like what's going on there if you talk about the story a little bit more for what you want to reveal
Yo, I can't actually hear bad brothers speak
Let me let me drop others down on he was saying that you're so handsome and the project is so good
That's what he was saying
Today he was looking for a good bear
All right bad brothers back up guys. Can you hear you if you want to repeat your question?
Yeah, I was just asking more about like the story way. Can you hear me?
Yes, I can hear you know
There's more about the story like you said you guys are building or you've been building for the last year and a half
so now you're releasing this other character the dog like
It's just like another main character. Like are you guys gonna release some more characters? Like what's what can you reveal? I guess around all that
Yeah, good question. Look if we don't have to do another generative PFP collection again, I would be very very happy
So there will be no plans to make another one. These things take such a fucking long time
Especially if you want to do it properly and I'll nerd out on like all the design decisions when the art actually comes out
but the amount of generative things around the actual character is
Just painstakingly different to kind of what's been happening
Yeah, so I I want to say a big massive no
But we'll see where we go
What up, Emma
What's up, I must not be able to hear I'm gonna drop down and come back
Could you not hear Kai?
Crap, I guess look I can I ask one more?
No, sorry dog
Since since Emily has to take take a lap real quick
I guess Kai's you you've said you already have this really healthy Treasury. You don't need the money
Then the the purpose is simply you establish a presence on another chain
and I think to
Clarify the money thing. I think when it comes to like licensing and kind of real-world presence
Whether it's again with Zara 74 countries a thousand stores
Whether it's you know having a million plays on our fortnight map with you know bigger news coming out
you know collapse with red and
Movember I think we've done a massive amount with kind of very little and I do think that
More budget is just gonna unlock more of that kind of stuff
And I will say that the team like isn't rushing around to have a raise
Because I think we need to be able to very clearly
Communicate what about this thing is actually good for the world before you can you know go out and
introduce more people into it
But yeah, it's definitely going to help is definitely gonna allow us to compete with the big boys
I mean if you're if you're in the space, you know how much good quality animation costs
You know how much 3d assets cost you know how much 1 2 3 4 5 and that's just gonna allow us to continue
You know do some super cool shit
For our holders like for you know another thing here because we just launched fortnight like a month ago
We are in the process of finishing up all 10,000 bears in 3d
They're gonna be again added to holders IP collections entirely for free
They'll be able to generate user-generated content and all the rest of it
Yeah, so it really just is about expansion, but I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna hear and sit and and pretend like
Our own treasury like was really good to be able to achieve the things we did
But then when you look at the East big boys and you're like, okay, we're gonna take okay there
Definitely, you know, it's gonna be helpful. But yeah, that's just a bonus
Okay, I'm glad Jonah
Tell me about the fortnight million plays which creator did you hire for it?
you know which creator do I
Don't you need to tell me because that can be very deceiving because the cost to get a million plays will depend on how much you
Paid that creator. So which creator was it?
Creators Corp
There's Corp
Was that it was that a million in total?
What was like your CCU at any given time like what was your highest CCU like hit at this stage?
We're sitting at five thousand eight hundred and I think we're averaging out around three thousand a day
For the past. I don't know maybe ten days. That's when yeah. Yeah, it's it's it's really kind of
Your map was a command on him
Shit I should actually know the name
Um, I will get back to you on this I blanked
Um, but I think we worked super closely with Jake specifically who you know your friends Jake Jake Lomond
Yeah, yeah
Okay guy. Yeah, he's good. He's got a good man
That's actually pretty impressive you your numbers are actually better than
Like ease not for Nike swoosh like that one killed it, but your numbers are better than clone X and better than
several other brands
What was other than the creator? What was I'm just curious? What was your marketing angle?
They're like what where did you set a million plays which is good. So where were you syndicating the content?
Look if I'm entirely honest, I think at some point
Something happened and we got lucky. So I'll tell you the story real quick without boring you but um
we created the map and then we hired a company that works with Creators Corp to set up a
Pro streamer tournament in that tournament
We had a few
You know that and I showed my age and the fact that I am a bear right, but there were some
You know medium to large talent. We had the youngest member of the phase clan
And what we were able I mean, I don't really know why because the contracts were just go and play it but all
Was it 16 24?
streamers and their friends actually streamed live and then we had like a bit of a tale for the next 10 days where we
Play we'd pay some
Gamers to actually play and stream the game
Slightly smaller scale and that's it. That's kind of where it stopped
And I think after 10 days we kind of looked at it and I think our highest peak was like 800
What kind of game mode was it?
It's Bedwars 3 on 3. Oh, that's why everyone does bedwars. I
Guess maybe you're better cuz clone X also did bedwars. Yeah, we're ranked second both on
discover and trending for for bed wars across all of
your and which is
Hmm I didn't mean to drop but Johnny you just said clonax and I was like
Where any of you guys around for the original clonax men and how fucking incredible and crazy that was it was amazing
They the best three I will say like so everyone gives clonax a hard time and shit like I
Think the problem with clonax other than like there is they are kind of greedy is that they were just too ahead of the time
Like that they honestly like they are so good at what they do that
they actually went way beyond what they needed to do and it confused the market and
Like when you look at apes, you're like, okay 2d ape make money
Understood, but he's like you're like, what the fuck is this clonax thing?
And then they got a fucking 3d pigeon
It's got like this DNA and I think I think it just like was too ahead of the time
And I think if they had if clonax were here in this cycle
Well, obviously they made money in last cycle. So it was good for them
But I'm saying in terms of market attention people would be fucking shocked like people would be like, what the hell is this thing?
This is insane. Yeah, I mean again a lot of shit that I probably shouldn't say on spaces
But a lot of these massive projects that are actually building some serious shit
Just fade away because it's not a massive gamble and I think that's also really important
I'm gonna I'm gonna interrupt you here guys
So people have this
Sensation that you guys disappear and don't do shit, but it's like I just pinned up this
Tweet from yesterday from your personal account where you're posting these stats for your gameplay and
You guys should be posting this from the okay account or even from the NFT account
Like let and and then be like pumping that out there more
So it's not just in the community discord. That's why people outside don't understand what it is that you're up to
Yeah, it's um, look, I think um, this is what you get when you get an introverted founder leading communications for a project
We hired the best of the best but then we've had this conversation before but just get this out to the public because not everyone's
following your personal Twitter and
this way people would understand that you're actually like heads down working on things and excelling past other projects in those
arenas and
People wouldn't have this impression that you just faded away for a year and a half and are now trying to drop another mint
On another chain and wouldn't be as critical because like I've I got really critical with you just now
And now I'm hearing your stats in all these other things that you've been working on
And I feel like I can back off
Okay, go go. Give me a hold up. I'm just gonna tweet something so you guys can click it. Keep talking. I
Was just gonna say go go. I think
That's just that's a first impression bias on anyone's part
Right, like I think without the con it's sometimes hard to get the context. It's KAIS and I have I've had this talk before
Like we like we've we've been around this
conversation before and
Okay, and it's just it's just something that I wish he would take the critique and like actually like
It's not his personal thing to like actually go put this on the company account
Maybe someone else can do it, but he hasn't taken that yet. So, you know what go go
I actually think that it's not just this fault because I was like
I just went to his profile and I was like, oh we follow each other and apparently he sent me a DM on September
27th of last year about his for night game and I never saw the DM dude. I wanted you to be I want
All right, we're just talking at the same time
This is what I'm gonna say
Also Kai's just tweeted something out too. So just just pin it up at the top or rather you go engage in it
I'm also gonna pin something up here, too
Yeah down vote me all you want black
I'm gonna put something up here too real quick. All right, everybody is just not my night tonight
All right final fucking unmute it
I'll say yeah, we were just talking bro. You didn't need to mute us
There's three people at one time. Like can you imagine if that's how conversations worked?
I think a clicking noise in the background that is really annoying
Dan I think he's getting his he's getting his thing ready
If only we can meet you leave
I think that's that's that's the source of all the problems at the moment
Is there was texting me that he's about to buy two million dollars worth of Solano while we're in the space
That was money that was literally leave my hands getting tired and I have like a three-minute like
Manifesto prepared for you now. I am NOT here for a three-minute manifesto
There it is again
Well, maybe you have a clicking sound
Cool down for sounds like he's like getting some dip ready. I'm really not wait leap figure out your click
I need to ask Jonah a question
No, let Nick might be one of the cables
All right. I unplugged my phone. Um, look
This is just a shit show tonight. So I'm gonna end the space now that being said
I want to say shout out to Kai's because it's tough to come up on stage and hopefully there's no clicking sound
I don't know where that's coming from
But shout out to Kai's I'm actually bullish on you guys and I appreciate you sticking around all this time to to continue to build
And it's also tough to come up on stage and kind of get weathered by you know
five people coming at you but coming at you from a good perspective and also from a constructive perspective and
I want you guys to win and I actually am going to send you a picture here over over text
Of me holding up the shirt in Zara in I think in Amsterdam
Then I went to the mall there and actually looked for the okay bear shirt
But it wasn't a kid's size and I couldn't find it in my size
We're gonna need to figure that out
So one shout out to you much love to you guys and I really hope the okay bears do really well and shout out to
the dogs also, I
Pinned this up at the top two and I don't really do this too often. But uh milk is actually on stage here and
She has a mint coming out tomorrow. And again, I rarely rarely ever do this
But like go support her cuz I actually really fuck with what they're doing
We're not gonna turn this into a whole AMA
I really am gonna end the space but go click the link at the top and just go check out what they're doing
She makes all like the cereal boxes and they have just amazing branding
And much love to her and everything that her community's up to so please go support
I think it's like a mint of like a thousand units. It's it's pretty fucking small
But the mint price is like one soul or some shit like that. So definitely go support and
I think that's it. I love you guys. It's been another momentous night. I am on the East Coast
So it's it's getting pretty late for me here. We'll be back tomorrow. Same time same place
And we're doing this meow space this week
We talked about it in the fucking chat to me. I watch out to Jupiter and I'm glad that we got that resolved and
Yeah, we're gonna do the fucking space this week and it's gonna be really really great. So I'm excited for that as well
So that being said, I love you guys. I appreciate you guys. Sorry for the short space and sorry
Sorry that I wasn't as active during the conversation tonight, but tomorrow's a new day and we're gonna run it back
So I love you guys. I appreciate you. I'll see you soon