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coffee and Crypto talks
Recorded: April 9, 2025 Duration: 1:36:10Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the current market dynamics, highlighting trends of optimism amidst declines, potential growth opportunities, and the importance of informed investing strategies. Participants emphasized the need for emotional control and adaptability in trading, while also discussing the evolving landscape of DeFi and meme coins.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. All right, good morning, everybody.
And good to see that everybody just jumped in and i was like you
know what i just woke up was having my coffee i was going to smoke a cigarette and i was like
let's just do a space you know because so much is happening you know it's down holy shit
and in these times you need some crypto people to talk you know you don't want to
talk to your barber or you don't want to talk to your grocery guy you know that brother i've been
getting fucked non-stop everything is dumping and i have no fucking clue what to do and shit
so in these kind of days i guess the best thing you can do is start a Twitter space. I asked Ben to join.
It's good to see that he joined.
Brother, how is everything?
How's markets treating you?
Very good morning to you, Mr. Bull BNB and everyone listening to this space today.
I mean, the market is down, as everyone can see.
I mean, the market is down, as everyone can see.
But I don't know why I have this strange feeling that it will bounce back very, very, very soon.
Do you know how I've seen the market for the past probably four, three cycles?
Is whenever we are at the top and there is a flock of bullish news.
It's that time when I sell.
It's that time when I know it's over, it's done.
And we haven't had that in this cycle yet.
So we were at the top, then bad news came,
and then the market dipped. And this is the time when bigger institutions
actually buy more for the next pump.
And I think I'm not, you know, like, I'm not, I don't want to sound like I'm not an expert,
but just based on experience, I genuinely think we are going to bounce back within the next two weeks max.
I have a theory.
I have a theory.
I have a theory.
So see, I did a tweet back in December, okay, when I said, you know what, CZ tweeted 10,500
back in 2019.
He did that tweet when we actually crossed $10,500 for the first time.
And not the first time, I would say, like after the crash of 2017, like 2018, sorry,
it was the first time we actually went above $10,000. And he tweeted this thing that, you know
what, slap yourself for selling below $10,000. And then, I mean, I got extremely bullish,
and I was like, you know what?
I was long from 7,500.
And then I saw it going up to like, you know,
12,000 something, and then it came down, 9,000.
I was like, you know what?
Nothing good.
We are Gucci.
Then it actually dumped to, you know, 7,500.
I was like, no problem.
I'm on my entry, you know? So it was Thursday and
Friday back in the day. I'm talking about 12th of March, 2020. And then one fucking candle,
we went to like around 3,700, 36 something. But yeah, let's just say 3,700, absolutely annihilated.
Then we pumped to 5,200. Then we dumped again to like 300 and then slowly slowly slowly we started going up
by august this time in december same shit happened and this time i even posted that you know what
he tweeted like if you sold below 100 000 you know what slap yourself and then later on he
deleted that post by the way and i don't know why he did that so i was like okay you know what time
to fucking sell everything.
And I did sell everything.
The only fucking mistake which I did that I was like, you know what?
Let's stick with memes and shit.
At least they are moving.
And, you know, on Solana every day or in a week, we used to get a runner of, I mean,
every day, 5 million runner was a normal thing.
Then 20 million runner and then 80 million runner, you know, and that was happening. And, you know, I was like, good. I runner, and then 80 million runner.
And that was happening, and I was like, good,
I mean, something is coming out and shit.
Because see, the thing is, when you're trading meme coins
as compared to the futures, what happens is that,
you know what, you buy five tokens,
I like to buy one person supply.
So let's say you buy five tokens at 5 million market cap,
that's $250,000 in.
And if all of them rugs, which actually rugs on
Solana very fast, you know, fucking, you just lost $250,000 in a day, you know, in futures,
if you lose even 50K, you're minus 50K or minus 60K, you know, you kind of feel that thing,
you know, you or your brain is like, you know, trying to find a solution, add more margin,
Your brain is like, you know, trying to find a solution, add more margin, maybe DCA, maybe try to close the position or cut losses, you know.
But in memes, that didn't happen.
So, you know, we kept engaging in that.
And then last year I shorted, okay, because I was expecting bulls to arrive this year.
Last year I shorted, and then guess what?
I mean, I shorted, I remember, on 6th of february 2024 you know and i shorted bitcoin at
48k guess what 52 54 59 and then almost 17 almost 72 bro almost 72 from 72 in one day you know it
dumped from uh that level to almost 48 again um on 6th of august uh 2024 so i was like you know what
this time i should have shorted again i did in short which was pretty up you know otherwise if
let's say if i would have shorted in the range of 90s you know it would have been a very good profit
right now but everything else is absolutely annihilated look at solana look at xrp so that's why i just tweeted um you know like 20 minutes ago that if you are
long and you're underwater just survive for another let's say two three months then you'll be able to
get out of it so i don't have any hopes for ease to be honest but i have help for Bitcoin, Solana XRP, BTC
I think
I don't know but I have this feeling
that the pump is coming soon
it's just the way how
we've been always treated
and it always works for bigger institutions
that's how they make money
is by manipulating the retail
which is us.
And I went through the numbers for like 21, 18, 17, and always is the same thing,
is when they flock you with good news at the top is when they are about to sell.
And that did not happen yet.
So maybe Trump fucked the whole plans?
I don't know.
No, no, I mean, bro, it was obvious.
See, the thing is
every uh the minute trump got elected you know and he didn't take the oath everything started
pumping so it's like buy the rumors sell the news this is exactly what happened this is what we
learned from last three cycles so the thing is okay you know what they were like you know the
minute he'll become the president he'll take the oath you know he'll you know make
tax-free everything and crypto will be in super
cycle you know we should have thought better you know everything started dumping the minute he
became president you know he launched trump right before that and then melania and then you know we
are cooked completely cooked this is what exactly happened i mean uh all these solana warriors or
all these solana kols were like shilling hardcore shit daily.
Motherfuckers don't know what to tweet now, you know?
And they're like, bro, we need to eat and shit.
We need to eat and shit, you know?
So this is pretty strange.
This is pretty fun because see, back in the day, I mean, I tweeted yesterday as well.
I mean, we are from the era where, you know, this phrase was famous that if you can't hold you won't be rich
now we are in the era if you hold you will never be rich you will be poor you know hardcore poor
so these are the situations bro and these needs to change now now i'm more sure that this year
it's more like 2020 you know i mean if we're gonna to see some sort of i don't think we're going to see a meme run but what what we can see is actually a defy run look binance delisted
a lot of tokens yesterday majority of them were from 2020 you know um this balancer for example
i used to use uh balancer pool i made a lot of money on that because it was a bit complicated
not everybody knew how to like you you know, play with that protocol.
And but then even back in the day when Balancer got hacked, they were hacked for $398 million, if you remember.
Wow.
So, you know, so in 2020, a lot of fuckery happened, I think.
And, you know, CZ quite often tweets, we I love DeFi.
We have invested heavily in DeFi. And, you know, this guy dropped hints, you know, CZ quite often tweets, we I love DeFi. We have invested heavily in DeFi.
And, you know, this guy dropped hints, you know?
Yeah, they have the biggest exchange.
Of course, they manipulate and stuff, you know?
So he actually tweets.
I know what the volume is, yes.
I mean, did you see that tweet when I posted that?
Okay, when he said that the Bitcoin is store of value, Bitcoin fucking dropped.
Then three days ago, he said, overall, crypto is store of value, Bitcoin fucking dropped. Then three days ago, he said, overall, crypto is store
of value. And then everything started tanking 20, 30%. So he actually dropped hints. All you have
to do is just follow the guy, try to do two plus two, and you will actually start taking better
trades. But the thing is, we are too emotional so when we take a trade we just we want
god to intervene and pump our bag if we are longing it you know we don't like use logic we just want
this miracle to happen that okay the minute i longed i want you know god to come and you know
paint this green candle and make me rich that That has nothing to do with your stupidity, brother.
You gotta like take better decisions.
You know, this is the exact definition of a gambler.
So you gamble on something and then you pray to God it will go up.
Or it will go the way you expect it to go.
Either if you're shorting, you pray to God that it to go either if you're shorting you pray to god
that it goes down if you're longing you pray to god it goes up and and this and this is completely
the gambler's mentality and that's why 99 of people are wrecked gone because and i said in one tweet
uh yesterday i think the day before do you know when you, and this is just a general, not an advice, just an observation for everyone listening today.
Do you know there are two types of people on this place?
There are the traders, those who actually know how to fucking trade.
They are traders.
And there is the rest of us, you know, like the 90% of the community.
If you're not a trader, if you don, buy that token and just start believing in that
one because you might think you were smarter than the rest. You make 2x here and you go
chase somewhere else. What you could have actually held in there and instead of selling a 2x,
your project could have gone 100x and then you said, I don't know, like 20x,
have your money on the side, have your investments on the side, your profit on the side,
and then you decide on the other things. But the fact that we see now everyone is chasing the next
big thing and used for you, there is no big thing. Everything for you there is no big thing everything that you see now
that what could have made you money nothing else maybe 0.1 percent of the people that they made
money on this new shit but 99 percent lose money and i genuinely cannot comprehend the mentality of people that keeps jumping on
new projects every hour. Like you have not learned from your own mistakes. And this is a sign that
tells me, even from now until the next 100 years, only 1% make money, 99% lose money, because
you never learn, guys. You just never learn. Don't learn from other people's mistakes if
you can't do that. Learn from your own mistakes. Hold on to one thing, believing in it. And
if you want to make two weeks, sell, chill, relax for a day, two days, three days. I was speaking to BullBnB
like a few weeks ago. And do you remember when you, when you, when I think you made the tweet
as well about it, when you got liquidated? And he told me, I'm taking a few days, I'm not going to
fucking trade. Even if someone brings me the best token, I am not going to trade. Because that is very smart. And that's what
everyone should do. If you make money, don't do anything. Just fucking chill, relax. Few days,
think about what you want to do next. Because when you make money or lose money, your emotions
are the highest. And there and then, when you make the biggest mistakes of your life
i'm sure most of you there's i mean there's a reason behind it okay see your brain is
fucking slow okay whatever happens in our industry it happens really fast like you know what it takes
some time for your brain to catch up to your new net worth you
know doesn't matter if it's like in positive or it's a negative so what happens is like let's say
i made one thousand dollar with hundred dollars it will take my brain at least seven days to accept
that okay otherwise if i start trading the minute i just cashed out $1,000, my brain is stuck at $100. So the surplus
$900, I'll fucking absolutely annihilate it. I will just degen shit because I'll be like,
you know what? My $100 is secure. That $900 is totally fine. Similarly, when you lose money,
let's say you started with $1,000, now you're sitting with $500, you instantly want to reach
the same level. You will trade like you still have $1,000, but in reality, you're sitting with 500, you instantly want to reach the same level. You will trade like you
still have $1,000, but in reality, you're just sitting at $500. So you will fuck that up.
So each time you fuck up or each time you make money, you got to take a break. This market is
going nowhere. It's not like the season going to turn off and shit. No, you have to let your brain
catch up to your new net worth. That's when everything
will start going to happen in a good way. Similarly, you know what, since you mentioned
about the traders and the normies and stuff, what I wanted to tell is that, see, there's a
very nice story, you know? So there was this guy, somebody told him, you know what,
money attracts money. So the boy is like, you know what, good, let me do something.
Oh, one second, guys.
So the emotions are probably the most important element when it comes to trading.
Either you hold, either you trade trade and you have to nail the both
like holding mostly is easy and i'm saying holding holding when the whole community
really gets on the same point and the same mentality and the same mindset that everyone holds until a certain amount of market cap or when you time your own exit strategy.
Other than that, jumping on the next thing, believing or thinking that you might make it, you will not.
And it's been proven many, many times.
Only very few actually get lucky.
But most get liquidated, lose 90% of their holding.
And as Bull was saying, there are certain effects on one's mentality
when you make money.
And I really, really want you guys to start doing this.
If you make money or lose really really want you guys to start doing this if you make money
or lose money don't revenge trade revenge trade move you from a crypto holder or a trader to a
gambler and what we know about gambling house always win you will never ever win against the
algorithm you just will not win It's programmed to take your
money. So the smartest thing to do is to not give your money to the algorithm. That's like you are
fighting against millions of other people who want to take your money. You are new to this. They have been doing this for years.
People think it's luck, probably for some people, but most, it's not luck. It's programmed.
It's programmed to take your money and you give it to them very easily. So what we should learn
from this, two things.
Distinguish yourself.
Are you a trader?
Which mostly you're not.
If you don't know how to trade, don't fucking trade.
Hold, have an exit strategy.
What I mostly tell people before, I used to say, look, if you have $1,000, right? Put $500 into a coin that you genuinely believe it will make higher returns at 2x
you get your 500 out and you leave the other 500 in there and you go work for your own backs because
that's what the mistakes of other communities they do at the moment they buy into a coin and
then they sit tight waiting for their backs to be pumped.
But how would that be?
If we're all claiming to be CTOs and it's all about the community and all this bullshit,
you can't sit tight and wait for your back to pump if you're not the ambassador.
If you see someone paying KUWs, paying a lot of money for the project,
you have to know that they want to get that money back
because that's not the money you gave them,
but that's the money they will take from you.
So emotions has to be put on the side.
Have your exit strategy and believe in something.
Like, I don't want to tell you how old for 10 years
because you might lose it all.
Bro, this generation, this generation don't believe in something. Like, I don't want to tell you how old for 10 years because you might lose it all. Bro, this generation, this generation don't believe in anything.
You are just hitting your head on a wall, you know?
This generation, this 2024, 2025 generation, they don't believe in anything.
And who is to blame?
Us, you know?
Everybody, because we actually accepted that as a reality, you know?
Coming back to the point, oh wait, I'll come back to this.
I want to tell that story before I forget.
So you know what?
This one guy, he heard from someone that, you know what?
Money attracts money.
So he took me at like one coin, like let's say a dollar, a coin dollar.
He went to a bank and he fucking, you know, throwed the coin and the coin started rolling,
I heard the coin and the coin started rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling.
rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling.
And I went near the big vault of the bank where all the cash is in.
And he's standing there chilling, waiting.
The manager came to me and was like, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
He's like, dude, I heard this story that money attracts money.
So I just rolled the coin, now I'm waiting for the money to bring cash for me.
He's like, brother, you heard it wrong.
Big money attracts small money. So your one coin is actually gone to the bigger safe,
because the safe got more money. So you know that your dollar, which you rolled,
it's there. So it's gone now. So go fuck off. Similar thing happens here. So these token launchers, they launch tokens, okay, and they make money, and then they give it to the bigger boys, like anything which happened on PumFund.
All these developers, they launched coins, but the main money went to PumFund guys.
600 million, they cashed out.
I used to think that they didn't cash out, they're going to redeploy it, but they didn't.
They cashed it out.
That's why you're not seeing any runners on pump fund you know same thing with the exchanges you know some people they keep on
launching or they keep on trading meme coins and some of them you know if they make it big they
start going you know and start playing with the leverage trading and stuff where all that money
which they like you know scammed or you know whatever goes to the exchanges. Everything is like going towards Binance or
all these other exchanges. So that's one thing. And coming towards this one, bro, believing in
something is not in the cards anymore. They need to either relearn things or we need new retail.
I mean, the current one is getting annihilated completely. A lot of people will go now.
You must have seen your, the engagement on
your Twitter must be going down because majority of the people, they just lost hope because they
came on a time when you don't have to believe in anything. And it's like a musical chair.
Whenever the music stops, whoever is sitting is in profit and whoever just standing, just lose
everything. So, I mean, just two years ago i think in april when
pepe came it was so much fun you buy the bag you keep fucking tweeting the memes and stuff
it just keeps going up now it's not like that you know because token used to launch in the morning
like or late night and used to die by the morning if it launched in the morning it used to die in
the evening i mean this is the and we accepted it we were trading it that's why we lost money on that
you know so making them believe in something i mean something has to drop something has to come
you know back and it should have a solid backing and then everything will be back to normal but
first of all whatever we learned this year year, we need to unlearn it.
And, you know, somebody have to set new standards.
Otherwise, I don't think anything going to happen, you know, because this is the current situation of our market, unfortunately.
So no matter how much you're going to tell them that believe in something, you know, put 500, wait for it to get doubled.
You know, these things, it doesn't penetrate their brain anymore.
You know, people want to learn.
I mean, one guy just texted me like, bro, what is the next narrative?
Where should we like put our money in?
Or, you know, which chain?
You know, these are the messages I'm getting right now.
So they want to know where to gamble, you know?
So let's talk about that.
Because see, personally, what I'm suggesting to people, if they're new to crypto, I'm like, you know so let's talk about that because see personally what i'm suggesting
to people if they're new to crypto i'm like you know what buy either solana buy either eat or buy
either bnb okay and wait for and transfer them on on chain and wait for some play to drop there
and gamble over there because that's when actually you're gonna make big money if you think you are
so smart you're gonna fucking nail it in perps there's no fucking way you're going to make big money. If you think you are so smart, you're going to fucking nail it in perps.
There's no fucking way you're going to win, like you said.
Because, I mean, they know how to, they can see your liquidation prices.
They can see everything.
The majority of the people think the same way.
I mean, have you ever met a mentalist?
Like a guy, he fucking show you a card, and then he tells you, okay, this is the card you picked.
And you're like, oh my God, you're fucking smart. How did you do it? Is it magic? No, it's basic psychology.
And they know how to manipulate you on that. So majority of the people, 99% of people, because we are all plugged with the matrix,
we choose the same shit. So majority of us, we are either longing, that's when they dump the
market, and either we are shorting, that's when they pump the market. So it's just that. So it's
not rocket science. It's just basic fuckery. It's not magic. 99% of the time, we are doing the exact
same things. On Twitter, we can flex. I don't want to take, I have a friend. I don't talk to him much. But he's on Twitter as
well. He bought some fake bots and stuff. Now his account is good. He keeps sharing, you know what,
I nailed this trade. I longed it, I made money. I shorted it, I made money. I'm printing, I'm doing
this. In actuality, in reality, motherfucker got wrecked. But then, you know what? He's like,
and then people think, people start thinking that maybe something is wrong with them no nothing is wrong with you even that is doing the same mistakes
you know because it takes balls to accept your mistakes you know it takes balls to
fucking say that dude i fucked up you know i fucked up i need to find a plan a proper
fucking solution to come out of this situation. 99% of the time, people just keep thinking about their problem over and over again. They don't want to talk about, okay, what are my options?
What are my solutions? Okay, what should I do? What route I should take in order to recover?
But then again, if you are just here to recover, why the fuck you came in this industry at the
first place? Let's say I came with $1,000. I fucked it up.
I'd be like, you know what? God, just give me back my $1,000. I will never fucking trade. Dude,
why do you want to come in then? You know, you came with a goal. You came in a vision.
How to fucking achieve that, you know, by hook or by crook, you have to fucking make it, you know?
Let's say I came with $1,000. I need to make $100,000. My goal should always stay $100,000.
You know, it should never be changed from a hundred thousand dollars to
recovering whatever I brought in the market. You know, it's just that. And people, majority of the
times, it's actually a shame. I feel bad, you know, that I actually adapted towards the market to stay
relevant. And I actually, you know, completely lost my my way of doing things, you know.
So if you see a bird flying and you are a horse, you cannot say that, you know what, I wish I could fly.
No, that thing that that bird have a different things.
I mean, he can fly.
That's his superpower.
You focus on your superpower, you know, and try to like accept and acknowledge all your positive
points and use them to actually make money.
Everybody has that.
So this is it.
So this is the way we should be doing things and stuff.
Nothing more.
And as you said, keep the focus on the problem.
You should never keep thinking about the problem because you will get stuck in it again. And rather focus on the goal and a way to fix it instead,
because what you pay attention to is exactly what happened. So look at what you want to achieve
and how to make it work. That's how you move forward and get better
results. If you are stuck in the issues, I will tell you just one thing. You know when
people do ski, they teach them one thing, which is the most important. They go through
a lot of trees, but the first thing they teach them is not how to avoid trees because if you try to
avoid trees all your focus is the trees and you will hit one of them because that's all you see
but instead they teach them how to focus on the path where there are no trees. So all they focus is a path away empty of trees and that's exactly how
they win. So the focus is more important than the plan because when you focus on something
is exactly what you will get. And this has been said many, many times. It's you become what you think.
If you think you're going to be successful and you keep thinking about solutions to problems,
you will make it. You'll be successful. But if you keep thinking about the problems and the issues
and what happened before and you lost money and you become that. Your thoughts really absorbs your whole being
into what you think. So you lost, you lost, it's gone now. Probably learn a thing or two from that
to not repeat it. But your whole focus should be on how am I going to be successful? How am I going to be successful? How am I going to make it work? Not to be a revenge trader,
because that would just take every little penny that you have left. So what's next? I don't know.
What's the next trend for me personally? How I see the DeFi word is by having a project that has a real-life utility,
that makes money, where people pay to use that service,
and the project itself from the profit of that project reinvesting back in the token.
Other than that, buy, pray pray to God it will go up well the thing is right now the most liquid person in the space is mr.
CZ by Nance okay he's sitting on a two billion dollars in stables okay the other
day when he posted and I commented that in stables,
and he messaged that so many walls to buy.
So the thing is, what he wants, I mean, we have to look,
because see, that's liquidity, and we need to focus on where that liquidity
will be injected, because $2 billion is a lot of money.
And since market is dumping and stuff, he'll be
picking up quite a lot of good plays. And I personally like all those tokens on Binance,
which doesn't give you a warning that this token has a lot of volatility and it doesn't have a
monitoring tag and stuff. These are the tokens I'm going to actually focus on because that's
when you're actually going to make money you know and uh this is what i'm
looking for and since like i said i'm in did you see he like he mentioned defy gamify you know a
lot of gaming projects are coming look at that latest binance listing guns you know it came it
dumped actually but then it it is showing strength you know so there is a possibility that it can go up the good thing
is things are you know uh getting back to those great numbers of 10 20 30 million market cap
where you know back in the day when binance used to list tokens token used to be on that 10 20
million valuation and then they used to run to a billion 10 billion and stuff so these are the
things we should be looking for, you know, and
memes on the other hand would definitely come. I mean, for example, test, did you see the strength
test is showing in these days? You know, like, yeah, BTC dumped hard. I mean, Solana came down,
everything else came down. I mean, the meme coins category on Binance, you know, this test coin,
since it was artificially pumped, of course, knows that so it went to 500 mil it came down to 50 mil of course that's a 90 percent crash and now it is
holding strong you know you want to like play with the mean coin play with like that i mean look for
the tokens which don't dump in such days or which shows a little bit of uh strength you know which
are not dumping they'll definitely do good And since he always talk about build, build, build,
I mean, that jelly, jelly coin.
I don't know.
I fucking like that coin, bro.
You know, so it went to 280 mil.
It came to 11 million.
How much more it can go down?
That's a good bet.
For example, I'm picking that coin up
because eventually or in the end of the day,
they actually made a very good app.
You know, it's a video calling app,
at least something, you know,
something that they built, you know, not like, you know,
it's a dog picture, which have fucking wings.
And it's like a flying dog and shit. No, it's not dog shit.
At least they made something. So we should be focusing on that.
And let's just take portion of that liquidity,
which our boy will be injected in the market.
Then you can play
with whatever right now majority of the people are wrecked and uh i mean whatever they're gonna push
it's not gonna work you know so you gotta make people believe i mean i like this uh idea which
he shared like i think day before yesterday when he was like you know an ai agent which mimics
um the main profile do the similar kind of tweets and stuff.
Now, that kind of AI agent, I mean, just see, there's not a lot.
I saw that tweet, and I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about now?
Because he just said, like, two weeks ago, he hates automated tweets,
and now he wants the same thing.
Like, it's like a pregnant woman.
You just never know what the fuck she craves, right?
I don't really like this idea anyway, and I don't think it would work because I mean I
AI my mimic or my learn from your past tweets
Bro, you really miss CZ. I think you know what like I saw your tweet yesterday, bro
You were like, you know being very nice to him and shit
I mean come on like you are acting like a pregnant woman now you know yesterday you're like
No I'm just saying you fucking put the fucking love with you
I love you
What the fuck is wrong with you
I should have access to your fucking twitter account and delete that shit
I'm going to fucking hack you.
It's something shit, bro.
You're like, CZ, I love you too, you know?
Just so you know.
I love you, bro.
I'm going to fucking hack you and remove your fucking tweets.
Or I'm going to steal your phone next time I see you.
I swear to God.
Coven is here.
Can you hear me?
Next time, distract him.
Let me take his fucking phone and I will delete all this shit.
No, I mean, come on, bro.
Come on.
Like, the love you have for that man.
I mean, I respect that.
I'm just, like, pulling your leg.
I do.
I do.
Listen, I will tell you one thing.
I will tell you one thing, right?
I love CZ.
I really do, right?
Like, I love you.
And I tell you sometimes, and you tell me when I do things wrong.
You fucking pick up the phone, you call me, and you say, what the fuck was that tweet about?
Why did you do that?
That's wrong.
You know why you do that?
Because you love me, you care about me.
And the same thing goes for you or for CZ, you know?
When someone does something wrong, you have to tell them this is wrong, whether they like it or not.
You know, it's a duty as a good friend.
Right.
But again, this fucking tweet about AI mimicking automated shit.
No, that was contradiction.
Two weeks ago, he said.
I kind of like it.
I like the idea.
Why not?
I mean, we need to eat, bro.
So if he's doing that, I mean, if some project do it, I'm going to bid that shit, bro. I want to print. You know, I want to eat.
Similarly, everybody in this space want to eat. So at least show some enthusiasm for it, bro. Come on. I will give you that. I will give you that. But let me just explain why I think that the thing won't work.
We tweet, right, not based on automated shit.
We tweet based on current events.
I change my mind when circumstances changes.
How would the fucking AI get to your emotions and tweet?
We don't tweet.
See, you are again, like, know, get drifting away from the point.
The point is we want to make sure that, you know, if you're doing some meme coin shit,
it should come up with some sort of utility.
Now, even if it's automated utility, it's totally fine.
You know what matter is we print, you know, we print with logic. We don't just print like, you know, dog, horse, camel, sheep, coin getting sent without any utility or anything, you know. So think of it from that perspective. It's like giving a baby or monkey, you know, tools to like, you know, build something and then clap a little bit that, yeah, you're doing good shit. So it's good, bro. Think of it that. Like you said, like,
you know, we have the most retarded retail since all my time in this industry. See, 2017,
people used to spend some money on writing ICOs, white paper, light paper, some sort of an idea
that guys will be doing this, but we need money, send me 1000, eight, 10,000 paper, light paper, some sort of an idea that guys will be doing this, but we need
money. Send me thousand ETH, 10,000 ETH. And people used to like, you know, send them money.
Like the biggest thing which impressed me till date was EOS. You know, they raised almost about
$4 billion. Can you believe that back in 2018? And that is also in crypto, you know, ETH and BTC,
you know, and they never actually delivered shit, but $4 billion in BTC and ETH, bro, they raised, you know, so that was something.
So that was smart.
They took money.
2021, at least people were spending money on the games and the metaverse fuckery and all this shit.
So people were like, you know, thinking, you know, and the communities used to push the developer that brother you gotta deliver you know you gotta make us excited we need to get dopamine
these days you just pick a dog picture or a cat or a monkey or i don't know you know
a call or whatever and then you know you're like okay bullish bullish bullish and then boom zero
you know look at the fart coin for example what the utility? It's just going up like farts
go up, you know, like that's disgusting. I mean, that's disgusting. But it's going up and people
are like sending messages, bro. This is the next meta, bro. This is the beauty of it. Like what is
tit coin, for example, sitting on a 40 million valuation. Look at but when this other guy is
shilling, he actually DMS me, me bro why don't you buy buck coin
and i'll make a butt strategy like what kind of retards we're dealing with and you're telling
them that not focus on autonomous uh automated messages i mean come on bro you gotta like give
credit to the man here a little bit so yeah this is the psychology and we need to change but you cannot like give them algorithms and theorems straight away like physics shit. Start with two plus two is equal to four. Oh, good boy. Nice. You know, now tell me what three plus three six. Good boy. You know what? Slowly, slowly educate Evan, make them civilized. You know, this is the vision I believe. And, you know, let's just hope that things get a bit civilized you know this is the vision i believe and uh you know let's just hope that
things get a bit civilized here bro can you like are you since you use iphone can you see some
people sending requests to talk bring some people except some people i have kelvin i'm gonna make
him a speaker and the moment he speaks i'm going to remove his mic just to piss him off
moment he speaks i'm going to remove his mic just to piss him off oh i can do that i've got
kt as well here i've got will bring all of them bring all of them bring all of them let's just
have a discussion like proper friends you know like crypto boys wrecked as fuck you know
and shit online you know kind of feels good doing that let's do that kevin how are you doing
today you sound very far from the mic are you in the bathroom are you sitting in bathroom bro
you're sitting in bathroom like you know i'm good bro
well i you sound very far from the phone.
Okay, give me a minute.
Give me a minute.
Okay, Katie, you talk, brother,
till Kelvin comes out of the bathroom.
Then you talk, Katie.
Morning.
Morning.
Morning, everyone.
How are you doing?
I'm not in the bathroom.
I'm not in the bathroom.
I hope so.
Yeah, interesting views I mean where does
this market go next
like the memes of
everything is just kind of wrecked
right plus you've got the
wider economy like the Trump's
putting the strings you know look at
the stock market so
I don't know I don't see any end to this at the minute.
And, you know, a lot of us are wrecked, and I'm one of them too.
But I think, I mean, for me, I've just got to sit out at the minute
and just wait to see if the market settles and stabilizes.
But, you know, the next twist and turn is if BTC goes back down to that 70K and maybe under, you know, what happens then, you know the next twist and turn is if btc goes back down to that 70k
and maybe under you know what happens then you know
look at micro strategy as well you know they've been buying and buying and
buying and averaging up and they're bringing their average up to
somewhere near you know the mid 60s up to the 70s so
you know things could get really interesting if
if if things keep you
know the market keeps pulling back and back and back um you know the thing is as well like you
know we had this big run in in november december and everyone thought yeah this is it you know the
super cycle is here and the four-year cycle and everything was followed was you know really the market makers and the exchanges that are really pulling the strings
knew that
everybody thought that this was the one
and have just pulled rug
pulled the whole market you know
it's you know the market will never
do what you expect it to do
yeah because you are
playing against
you are playing against algorithm.
And that's what I was saying before.
Like, you can't win against algorithm.
No, no, no.
Don't even use the word.
Don't even use the word algorithm.
You are playing against scammers.
So first of all, we were scamming each other.
Like, you know, let's just be very straightforward.
First of all, we were scamming each other.
Some boys, they know how to launch on Solana. They kept on pumping, dumping shit. Then the bigger scammer came,
Mr. Trump. He launched his token, went from nothing to 80 billion. Then he's like, okay,
you know what? Before I become president, here, trade on my wife's meme coin. And then boom,
everybody's annihilated. So we all scammed each other. We take money.
My Argentinian friend.
Yeah. And the Argentinian friend also, he's like, you know, so we all scammed each other. We take money. My Argentinian friend. Yeah. And the Argentinian friend also, he's like, you know what?
Trump scammed. So why not? I come and I try to scam too. Then he got scammed too.
So the thing is, we all gave our money to the big scammers and now we don't have money to bid anything.
That's why, you know, nobody is like, we're like, fuck. I mean, the narrative is good. Why the buys are not coming? It's not coming because we don't have money to bid anything. That's why, you know, nobody is like, we're like, fuck. I mean, the narrative is good.
Why the buys are not coming?
It's not coming because we don't have money.
You know, we are just giving it to the big boys.
So this is the reality.
And yeah, market going to go to 60K.
I mean, this is how it should be.
Otherwise, I mean, there is no direct relation with tariffs and Bitcoin and shitcoins, for example.
Let's just ignore Bitcoin.
About the shitcoins, what do they have to do with the tariffs?
You know, nothing.
It's just that they, you know, market finds reason.
Now, the thing is, the more regulations we got,
we need more reasons to dump or pump shit.
You know, back in the day, 2013, 2014, 2015,
BTC used to do randomly like 50% candle, 40% candle down. Nobody's there to like,
you know, tell you what is happening, you know, just randomly you can pump and dump any shit.
Now, since all the big boys are involved and the regulations are in, you need proper justification
of things. Now, right now, if you try to pump something, let's say you have $10 million and
you see a meme coin, an alt on Binance sitting on like 10, 12 million market cap.
You try to buy it.
The minute you will scale in a million dollars, they will put a monitoring tag on that.
Because you know what?
If you do pumps and dumps on Binance, you know what?
Binance has to answer because they got a lot of licenses and they are working with a lot of regulators.
So they need justification for it.
I mean, market is supposed to correct you know bitcoin went from what um 16 000 in 2023 to almost about 108 000 of course it needs
to correct you know if you are thinking otherwise it's stupid and of course you will see all these
kind of tweets even if you go back in 2021 super cycle back in 2017 super cycle. Back in 2017, super cycle. Oh my God, you know, adoption is coming.
It's all bullshit.
You know, you need to like, you need to maintain the FOMO so you can dump on people.
Otherwise, if the FOMO is not there, everybody will like remove the bids and everything is,
you know, start coming down, like crashing and shit, you know.
And like, in the end of the day, you have to go, you have to listen to someone who actually
is sitting on liquidity. It's like playing cricket with the guy who owns the ball and the bat. So you have to
follow his rules. If he's saying I will play five times, you have to give him five chances,
because you need to keep on playing, you know. So now you have to just accept what the big boys
will say, you like it or not, you got to follow their rules. Unless you have enough liquidity,
you can create your own narrative.
So overall, this is the situation of the
market, and I can't even
make it more dumber. I guess
that's the best way I could explain.
Well, listen.
Sorry, go ahead, Katie. Go ahead, please.
No, no, I mean, that's all good views.
Where do we go from here? i'm just sitting on the sidelines
i'm not touching down and up this is how it is we're gonna go down and then we're gonna like
stabilize a little bit then we're gonna start going up a little bit then we're gonna like see
the minute you see that this is a scam pump you know it's not gonna last that's when it's gonna
keep going up you know this is the thing it, you know, it's not going to last. That's when it's going to keep going up. You know, this is the thing. It's always reverse psychology. It's always reverse psychology.
I generally like you can call me crazy if you want, but I think we might pump back above 110
to maybe 130 in the next. One sec. three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve
thirty what the you are counting bro are you like you know reading beads and stuff like god yes
weeks weeks days maybe hours you know who knows um this will
will probably like you can call me crazy but i see another pump going above 110
and then from there going all the way to 50 51 but before you know what bro give me a date let's just put a bet on this thing
i think if you longed anything above 90 000 per btc okay you we will see that only in august
before that nothing's gonna happen even satoshi cannot come and pump that shit you know it's
actually gonna come chillax here
I mean, August is the month I believe
We're gonna see some big green candles
Let me tell you one thing now
So give me your month
In 15, 14 weeks
Give me a month, bro
I am not good with mathematics
I don't know, count it
No, fucking 15 minutes
I mean, just tell me the month What 15 weeks from now? I don't know, bro Four months, that's what I'm telling you 15 weeks. I don't know. No, fucking 15 minutes. I mean, just tell me the month.
15 weeks from now.
I don't know, bro.
Four months.
That's what I'm saying.
August, bro.
August.
So there where we're going to have 120, 130, then back to 50.
I'm telling you this.
I don't know.
I'm just, you know, like, let me see if we cross 80 in the next four days.
And then that will be a very bullish sign.
Bro, I think we're going to dump on Thursday and Friday.
I'm expecting a dump on Thursday and Friday.
You know what? I'm in 104% tariff on China.
I think that is another good reason to rug it by Thursday or Friday.
But all these signs is when people have to move to
cryptocurrencies. When these tariffs and the dollar and all this bullshit that happens in the world,
people tend to move their assets to the new thing, which is cryptocurrencies. And I think
with this bad news and all this fucking fud that's going on is when the time to buy. I don't know why.
This is my strategy and I will do it
and I will wait for it. If
I'm wrong, then I will say I'm sorry
I'm wrong. But I
generally think we're going to have another pump
over 110.
Maximum in 14
weeks.
Okay, okay. One by one, guys one who want to go who want to go just raise the hand all right gm bmb yeah brother gm bm everyone. Just like Bento'd said.
GM Kevin. GM Kevin.
Bro,
just give a good morning.
It's nice or no way.
You know,
good morning,
good B&B,
fuck the rest.
What the fuck is this?
I'm going to...
He said good morning.
He didn't say you guys,
he's like, you know what, fuck them, you know, they are GMP.'m gonna he said good morning he didn't say you guys he's like you know what fuck them you know they're gmp but good morning is good morning so that's like good
good morning for bmb like what the fuck is this
you don't like your theories that's why he didn't say that so i like you brother carry on
all right okay uh thank you you know the market has changed
everything has a lot of things has changed just like um boot bmbc you know the bull run of 217
221 is not the same as this one and um i believe so where is because of them the economic war we
are having around the economic war is one of the major reason why the whole market is like this and the kind of
retails we have around just like bull bnb said the retails we have now are people who are not
knowledgeable about the industry they have little or no knowledge about cryptocurrency so they think
crypto is about gambling.
So we have a lot of people who come into the industry
to come and gamble instead of to learn about the industry.
And I do tell people that before you invest in an industry,
invest in the knowledge of the industry.
You don't go into an industry you don't know nothing about
just because you want to make money quick.
Crypto is not a get-rich-quick thing. You don't come here to get money overnight.
This place rewards knowledge, this place rewards patience, and this place rewards emotional intelligence.
If you're not fit in these three things I've mentioned, then the market will use you as an exist liquidity.
You see, we need to understand that the bull run can only be delayed, but it can't be denied.
I'm so optimistic that we're going to have the biggest bull run ever. And here's my reason.
You see, the US are owing over $7 trillion in debt. The last time I shake, they are owing over seven trillion dollar in debt the last time i shake they were owing over seven trillion dollar in debt and how they're going to pay this debt for example if you borrow
a loan from a bank and you are you now sit as the president of the united states of america
and you have the opportunity to reduce your loan so that you can pay lesser what will you do won't
you crash the market so that you can pay less debt instead of paying higher that's exactly what is
going on the store market is crashing the store market is crashing because the usa want to pay
a lesser debt instead of the seven trillion dollar debt so you can see amazon is crashing tesla is
crashing naveda everything is going down because they are trying to see how they can pay their debt lesser compared to the 7 trillion euro.
And once the store market goes down, we noticed something two days ago on Tuesday.
The store market was going down, but Bitcoin was gaining momentum.
That's the sign of a bull run.
A lot of people ignore it, but that's the sign.
When you see store market crashing and crypto is
gaining momentum notice it that's one of the signs of uptrend but some people ignored they were just
so excited they were carried away by the euphoria and i was just like no this is not something to
be carried away about this is something you need to sit down and learn because anytime store market
is crossing drastically and the crypto space is having an uptrend it is something to note
so i'm i'm still very optimistic about the bull run because me too yes when
bonds a lot of bonds will expire very soon bonds are going to be aspiring in the next few months
and what that means is that investors will move their money to where they feel less border and then more insecurity.
You know, crypto has no border.
Crypto is borderless.
And the government cannot infiltrate crypto the way they do into bonds.
So I see expect that when bonds expires in the nearest week, just three to four weeks later, a lot of people
will move their money to cryptocurrency.
You don't expect the institution to buy high.
You don't expect the institution to buy high.
For me, institutions are still buying Bitcoin.
Institutions are still buying this top cryptocurrency, BNB and the SRP and the ethereum we still have word liberty buying all
these coins and you don't expect them to buy high so what will happen is that the market manipulators
will crash the price to where they can buy then when they accumulate to their satisfaction they
pump the market i don't know if you get what i'm saying that's exactly what i was saying it's time
to buy now because that's what
they do and i will tell you what's the plan and they have to buy from where to bring the money
brother this is a question well sell your kidney bro i don't know sell something bro see you're
like nobody we're gonna sell the kidney institution gonna buy or whatever let's say let's agree with
this guy okay institutions are buying right now they will pump it as well
but first you have to make people money then you steal it back you know this is how it works
first they make you money like for example pump fun example let me give you an example so on pump
fun people actually made money okay and then they take it all back like mr trump came is like yalla
time to give it all back to big daddy time to to cut it in the box. You know, so this is it.
So, you know, for them to steal our money,
first they have to make us money.
Well, now, look.
Okay.
Do you know what happened during COVID, right?
COVID happened and the stock market went down.
What went up?
It's the fucking cryptocurrency.
And that's exactly what's gonna happen now and i
still stand by this when everything crashes gold look look when the dollar goes down the gold goes
up this is nearly automatic right and this is what's happening now the goal is like three times
something now let me say something they burned can i say something they wrecked
let me say something they burned can i say something they wrecked they let him say something
or no let him say something because he said good morning bull bnb alone so all right
i'm sorry i'm sorry you know they we need to understand we need to understand global trend
we need to understand global trend because crypto does not exist in isolation crypto is regulated and it is governed by hype sentiments and narratives
you know the two the 2027 bull run was triggered by quantitative easing and the 2021 bull run was triggered by a reduction or a cut in interest rates
and we've not seen any of those things this year we are still in quantitative tightening
and the last meeting the first shaman heard they said they are planning to move from
quantitative tightening to quantitative easing so when i see people saying they are waiting for bull run i just say no i'm not expecting bull run until the move from quantitative
tightening to quantitative easing and until there is a cut in rates we've not seen any of these these
are major catalysts of a bull run if we don't have a quantitative easing and we don't have a rate
cut there will not be bull run because this has been the major catalyst of the previous bull run.
So just like I was saying,
Donald Trump nominated Paul Atkins today as the new chairman of SEC.
So if he passes through the screening by the Senate,
he's going to be the next SEC man and he's a pro crypto.
So I believe that when the next fact meeting will come and then move from quantitative
tightening to quantitative easing and then probably cut interest rate by 1% or 2%, the
market will respond parabolically.
And also, just like I mentioned mentioned earlier institutions are still buying and the
media are not yet talking about cryptocurrency remember after institutions finish buying all
that we do is to push liquidity into the mainstream media and then the media will hype
cryptocurrency so that their market will pump. And when the media start hyping cryptocurrency, they're even a barber,
a re-author,
a lecturer start hearing about Bitcoin
and they enter into the market. That's when the bull run
will start and then we use them as a liquidity.
That's just it.
You have a point that I
do agree with. Kay, I will give you
the mic now.
I don't know. Consciousness. I will give you the mic now and unconscious uh con oh i don't know uh consciousness
i will get you the mic after k um listen what's gonna happen now they've burned all lungs right
killed wrecked done and dusted now it's time to kill burn wreck every short. Remember this word. I might be wrong, but I think
I'm right this time.
Burning lungs
right after burning all
shorts, then the market will go up.
Burning shorts automatically by going
up, and that's what's going to happen.
Samson, how are you doing, mate?
I'm good. I'm good. Just give me two minutes.
This fucker is just bothering me in the car
One minute
Okay, I'll give you three minutes
Let me go to consciousness
How are you doing?
Hi Ben
Hello mate, how are you doing?
Good man, good man
Say only hi Ben
Fuck Bull BNB
Don't say good morning to him now
Can you give me a question one more time? I don't say good morning to him now can you can you give me a question one more time
i don't have a question you had an open mic you can say anything you want just no rachel
words and yeah i mean apart from that you can say anything you want yeah so everyone is talking about Market Crush and have their own opinion yes of course and
the I believe Wildbreeb uh has an opinion that it's somehow gonna
crypto gonna survive it and crypto in a different way if I get it right
it in crypto in a different way if i get it right uh i think it's all connected somehow
and my opinion it's it's a very big manipulation to just you know to just make the stocks cheaper
and get them by themselves as you said corporations and all stuff and someone mentioned now that the
whole stuff and someone mentioned now that the media is not talking about crypto uh on a positive
side i believe they will never do the big corporations the big media uh they will never
support crypto as uh uh yet financial institutions which could which could separately uh be as an opposition to the
financial world and would be corporation you know they will these these big uh companies like black
rock like uh you know similar to them they will always uh very very calmly and not visibly will do work with crypto will buy the crypto but on terms of
supporting crypto on the media side I don't think it will ever be uh super open super official
that's the opinion I have and uh regarding market crash I do not think it's uh such a big
market crash i do not think it's uh such a big it's such a big uh problem it's it was yesterday
uh which was the biggest crash and today we saw that all market goes green uh from from today's
market and uh that the politicians place but the market will go up and down. The only thing I'm concerned is about China.
It's maybe not too much catching attention,
but the trade war with China is very catastrophic.
It's going to end up on the tariffs,
which the world has never seen, actually.
I mean, I want to agree with you,
but there are certain things that you just can't do, right?
Certain things that can't be done.
They just can't be done.
You know, like Trump is a crazy person and everyone knows that.
So he can put like even 200% tariffs.
China is stronger than the U.S. now.
People still can't comprehend it.
People can't accept that fact that China don't need USA.
The US need China.
Imagine China says, you know what, fuck this.
I'm not making any more iPhones.
I'm not making any more Nikes.
I'm not making any more batteries.
Bro, the US and the whole world will fucking stand still and collapse
you know um i understand trump's strategy always like you know like a big balls guy
and i want to do this i i i want to implement this because he worked with macron once because
macron is a weak ass a guy and he thinks that will work with the president of china that would
not work you put
200 i'm gonna put 400 and let's fucking see where it goes then elon musk will be in the middle like
oh hold on um i think we should rethink this shit and all that so it just it just you know
like trump is he's like a big kid you know like just doing um reckless decisions sometimes. And sometimes he might think he's a genius,
but most of the times he's not.
And anyway, political...
I don't want to go political about this.
Let me say my opinion about it, Ben.
Bull knows why I'm laughing.
So, okay, political shit is outside
our jurisdiction let's say our expertise no no one talk one talk political only finance crypto
finance so the thing is the thing is uh you're right trump uh no i have to give him credit on
that side of that like he is a entrepreneur he is a billionaire he became like uh on that side of that. Like he is a entrepreneur. He is a billionaire.
He became like on that in real estate.
He's pretty good in real estate, probably because he's a billionaire.
I have to give that credit and to Elon Musk as well as a person.
I mean, as an entrepreneur and business owner and that, I mean, he's genius.
uh that i mean he he's genius but when you manipulating uh on the politics side to gain
more profit from your partners and at today's world it's kind of crazy and as you mentioned
it may not work with china because china economically if not today within one two years it's gonna be number one economy
i mean 100 well that's out of question and when you play such games with the france it may work
with eu it may work with uh london it may work as well uh but doing the same thing playing the same ball with with everyone i don't
think so when someone will come to you with russia also it worked but you know right now there is no
not no nothing going on between them so they it's useless to put tariffs on them
so that's pretty much it yeah i, we'll see what will happen.
Yeah, yeah, 100%. It won't affect crypto that much.
100%, 100%.
But let's see.
Let's see what's going to happen.
I think the shorts will be killed, wrecked.
And then I think it's time to, I mean,
killing shorts automatically means that charts will be going up for the major ones, BTC, BNB, ETH.
I don't know what's going on with them.
And I genuinely am not a big fan of Ethereum because if we are moving from centralized banks to DeFi, decentralized finance is to cut many things.
And the fees is one of them.
And I don't really comprehend me sending $100 paying 20 gas fees for it.
So I always skip Ethereum and see what might happen in the future for it.
But let me move to Kay.
How are you doing, Simpson?
Hey, good morning.
Good morning, Ben.
Good morning, Ball.
So I don't want to agree. Good morning morning now we're friends a bit more good good right excellent excellent yeah uh there's so fucking
interesting uh negotiation going here and uh talking about the market but i've been listening
to everyone's point of opinion and everyone has his point of opinion, and it matches in
the market situation.
One minute, let me pay for this guy.
Can you take the machine, please?
Machine, machine, okay.
And everyone has a point of opinion.
And one thing that no one has touched, you know, whenever, before we see the next bull
run, we must, you know, rock people.
You know, people need to be rocked.
You know, the market needs to go so low that, you know, everyone expects that it's gone, we're going out, there's no more money, and it's over.
But why this time it's happening even harder?
Why this time it's happening even much more fucking aggressive?
Why this time is happening even much more fucking aggressive?
Because there's a factor that was never there before in all other bull runs,
which is the organizational and government adoption of the industry,
meaning a lot of fresh money is going to come in.
So this time the rug is so fucking hard because they know there's anyway a lot of fresh money coming to the market
we've seen what happening with pakistan what happening in usa in ue and it's gonna happen
like a ripple effect so there will be a lot of fresh money flowing to the market so this time
the rug is so fucking hard and if we also you know, we all know there's the market work in the matrix
and we can do nothing about it. You know, we're talking about the conspiracy and the matrix.
You know, we all know that, but, and we cannot deny it and we can never change it. The only
thing we can do is to be aware of it and not to fall on those edges of the matrix and to play within.
Now, for my humble opinion,
the downside
and with you, Ben,
yeah, we're going to see an upside and we're going to see
a massive upside, but not
yet. The
downside is still a little bit going to go more.
You know, if you look, on 29th of March
I tweeted my short
opinion of Sol, and afterth of March, I tweeted my short opinion of Seoul.
And after that happened, then I just like tweeted three days ago, three days after about the death cross happening in the Bitcoin, which happened earlier in the Seoul.
And, you know, the Bitcoin followed.
Of course, the tariff supported that.
But again, it's not only the tariff.
Always the market buy the rumor and sell the news
so when we talk about yeah yeah the already the market started adopted the tariff long ago and
now whatever is going to happen and the black monday the scary black monday 1987 and all of
those things market already started adopting and you're absolutely right
the crypto is made for that market but it's not instant it's not instantly buddy like when those
shock happened the shock happened all industries so the first ripple effect you heard that everyone
is scared everyone's set out everyone that's the normal you know chicken flies but at the other
side look at the smart money they're still fucking accumulating what the fuck you know chicken flies but at the other side look at the smart money that's still fucking
accumulating what the fuck you know the the time the day that trump announces the ripple
blackrock bought another 25 million dollar and i really want you to read this clearly
you know people say that's so bullish they They know the market's going to go up.
No, it's no fucking way.
For me, BlackRock buying $25 million is like a signal the market's going down.
Because BlackRock type of buying is not in tens of millions.
It's hundreds of millions or billions.
So when they vote as little as 25 million,
they're going down.
But they don't want the ripple effect to go extreme.
So we get a...
Let me tell you,
I know you know this.
There are about
probably
six, seven, eight elements that influence the market.
You know, like there's a variety of factors.
First things first, like always I say, I don't believe in numbers, charts and candles.
I don't really believe in that myself, you know, because supply and demand,
when people want to buy cryptocurrency,
whatever that currency is, is heavily dictated by the supply and demand. When people have decided
to buy a coin, it will go up in price. It's like a pot where people throw money in there,
and that's what controls the price of any, any, any currency or stock market for that matter. The second thing which means a lot to me,
and that's how actually I trade,
is by market sentiment.
When there is news, social media buzz,
and all this public perception, you know,
it really plays a massive role.
Like, you remember, like, what made Doge?
It was Elon Musk, you know, like, one tweet and that's that.
And then it comes the smaller ones like regulations.
When the governments and financial authorities decide,
like, for instance, when China in 2021 banned crypto, that immediately made the Bitcoin crash.
And then the worst of the worst is the institutions.
Like when the big players, I don't want to name anyone, but when they start putting liquidity into cryptocurrency, it gives it a little bit of credibility.
When people see, let's say, Tesla bought Bitcoin, you know, the price goes up.
When micro-strategies buy a lot of Bitcoin, the price goes up because everyone else is
followed.
Like, okay, Bitcoin now has more credibility.
And then the smaller events, you know, like economical conditions
in the whole world,
like what's going on now
with the tariffs and all that, right?
And then there is one important element
that people tend to forget
is the whales.
Like there's a group of people,
individuals who connect with each other,
who actually decide the price of any cryptocurrency.
If all of them decided to sell at the same time, the price would go down, then the retail
will follow, it will just keep sinking until we meet their own target to buy back again.
Sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes it takes months, and as we saw last time, it took three years for that to happen. And then why now we see speculation has had the biggest impact on the cryptocurrency market is because we have a lot of newbies.
Before, we used to have maybe 3,000 cryptocurrencies, and we had like maybe 2 million people trading.
So the money was there.
Everything you buy pumps.
Now we have maybe a million token
and we have an additional 5 million new traders
or gamblers, let me call them.
And that would change everything
because much of the market runs on hype and FOMO now.
Like all these pumps and dumps,
you know, it just changed all fundamentals.
I want to add something.
There are like two types of people in the market.
Okay, let's just dumb it down for everybody
because 90% of the people in this space
don't hold Bitcoin.
They don't hold any Bitcoin.
They just want to know why cock in you is not pumping,
you know, or why it got rugged.
Okay, so basically two kinds of people
are there. One with a lot of big money, like all these institutions and stuff, they were bidding
heavily on Bitcoin. I don't know anybody in my circle who was actually heavily bidding on Bitcoin,
actual spa Bitcoin. They were basically just gambling on the price, like longing and shorting
and shit. Okay. And then comes towards the meme coins and stuff, because everybody comes here to
make money. Anybody who says he's here for some sort of like you know revolutionary point of view or they are here for like the tech it's
all okay it's all everybody because see 27 like the this other guy who was talking i mean i didn't
talk much at that time like you know uh people come here like people are not educated enough
what kind of education you're talking about everybody comes here to make money
and you know what and the language and i fucking hate the fact i mean i've
been to many spaces people talk and like if if somebody's a little bit of crypto educated he
talks in such a complicated language you know like what do you expect a fucking uber driver
will understand or like what kind of bullshit you're talking about no they want to know why
my tokens are not pumping when they and that's why i mean majority the new money went into
meme coins because you don't need a fucking degree to understand shit it's just like cock in you it's
a picture of a cock okay and it's a ninu you know and you know it makes sense to them okay pull pull
i mean you know push push push i mean write tweets on that interacts it's good
look at broccoli for example let's just talk about that it was easy it was a dog it's a dog
it's a cz's dog its name is broccoli uh it's the revolutionary tech you know it's just that so
dumb things make uh more sense to retail that's why they were like two kind of people dumb money
or like this uneducated people.
With no disrespect, they were bidding meme coins. And then there's like institutions,
they were bidding tokens with thick liquidity. Okay. It's just that. That's why Cardano pumped.
That's why XRP pumped, because you can scale in with like thick money and then you can scale out
with thick amount of money. Okay's just that a meme coincide
yeah you enter with like you know a hundred dollar two hundred dollar you try to snipe as early as
possible you know and then you come out of that as well so i mean majority of these people got
wrecked that's why nobody was bidding binance was holding a lot of tokens like for example these
uh these crashes you saw like 50 candle down of course like if there's nobody and like I said
we all are wrecked we are not even placing bids anymore and we have come to
the conclusion that okay once thing lands on a Binance it's okay you dump
your coin you move out okay and then there's this mentality as well that if
shit comes to Binance you know someday sooner or later Binance will pump it and
we will exit and profit you know so some people were it, or some people actually re-bought it.
Majority of the people don't want to even touch the same coins ever again.
So it's just that.
So retail is wrecked completely.
They are waiting for a miraculous new meme coin to come.
That can happen on BNB Chain or Solana whatsoever.
They are waiting for that.
Institutions, yes, I believe they are looking for all the take lp tokens because yeah like somebody was talking right now that you know they that
blackrock don't bid with 25 million you know they bid with billions okay if they're not bidding it
of course they need the prices to go down look at like like the smartest people like eric trump
what he posted to a 2800 eat it's a good buy it's undervalued look it's on 1500 1600 now now
they are selling what you think now they're selling it will go up of course no they're
going to take it more down they're going to take it in three digits and pick it up
and yeah any any like token uh the supply and demand you said i believe in greed and fear kind
of a thing there was no greed on from 2023. The only token which actually triggered
a little bit of greed on ETH was basically Pepe. Pepe, Turbo, and all those other tokens which
came in 2023. That was the time when ETH actually had some sort of format holds it. Now there was
not even a single meme coin. Why would somebody actually buy it? On Solana, on the other hand,
look at the day Trump launched his meme coin. Solana actually went
up skyrocketing because there was a demand of Solana that people wanted to gamble on Trump,
you know, that this is the first token which will go to hundreds of billions of dollars
as a meme coin and stuff. So people actually bought and scaled and gave all the money
to Trump, Argentinian president, the African president, and Melania. So all their money,
because they were, you must have seen the bids,
$500,000, $500,000 people were bidding on these meme coins. So all your liquidity you gave within two months to all these big boys, now you have left nothing. Now you are expecting the same
shit. Now a hardly yet meme coin is going to a million dollar. Back in those days, like two
months ago, a normal coin, even a fucking extreme bullshit token would
reach 5 million market cap. If it had a little bit of FOMO, it reached 20 million. And if it
has a little bit of more FOMO, 80 million, that was normal happening like two months ago. Now,
that money is not there anymore. And institutions are not there to bid your meme coins.
to bid your meme coins. They are there to bid all these tokens and they want to buy as low as
They are there to bid all these tokens and they want to buy as low as possible.
possible. And you know what, once you lose money on meme coins, the only place you see relief or
quick gains is futures, 10X long, 20X long. And of course, they actually, they're going to keep
selling and they're going to keep liquidating you. Like the other day when Bitcoin dumped from what,
100K to 88K, they were like, that is the biggest liquidation ever.
That's just a $12,000 move.
That's just a $12,000 move and you liquidated everything.
So the thing is, I mean, we will have good days.
But for that, before that, we need to give people money.
And sooner or later, I think something will appear on BNB chain or ETH, I believe, where people will make money. And then, you know what, people will start like
bidding on the big tokens as well, once again. But right now, no matter what excuse or what
bullshit explanation we give it to each other, you know, the fact is we are wrecked and there's no,
like, we don't have money, basically that amount amount of money which we had two months ago to bid anything you know so right now yeah the big boys the people who have money they
are bidding and they are keeping the bids as low as possible you know so why not because they can
yeah 100 100 100 100 that too so now um i again i don't give financial advices but i just want
people to understand you have to get your emotions out if you want to make money.
You trade with your emotions, you will get wrecked.
You might get lucky and the chances are very slim.
But putting your emotions on the side, think, see where the market sentiment is.
Do you know, like when everyone is in greed, you should be in fear. And when everyone is in greed, you should be in fear.
And when everyone is in fear, you should be in greed.
That's how people make money.
The 1% makes money when they go against every person's sentiment in the market.
And that is what should be done.
Chasing the next big thing, it's fucked.
It's done.
It's gone.
It's been proven that it doesn't work.
And that's why, you see, i don't talk about any coins i genuinely don't talk about anything apart from f2b of course um because that is is is a hundred percent community driven projects
other than that i don't really talk about anything because i know you might get something out of it
in like by being lucky and I don't like that,
because then what's the difference between us being in this space than going to a casino?
The casino always wins.
The house always wins, and I don't gamble.
Take some people.
Okay, Hustler, buddy, you go ahead.
I mean, guys, come, let's talk.
Because he DM'd me, he's like, I want to talk to you for a very long time. Yes, Hustler, buddy, you go ahead. I mean, guys, come, let's talk. Because he DM'd me, he's like, I want to talk to you for a very long time.
Yes, Hustler, go ahead, buddy.
I'm near Telegram, Guru.
And I saw that if someone is facing any problem in crypto,
so they can talk with you on Google Meet or anyone,
you will give free consultation.
You will talk like a brother.
So I'm the one, so I want to talk to you like if you're free
Well, you talk to me right now. There are people as well. Maybe they can give you free consultation as well
What is your problem what you're facing?
Just I'm just DMing you from a a long time so if you can give some time i mean what's your
problem tell me and tell us and maybe we find a solution for you together yeah the problem is that
like i made so much money in in this starting of 2024 and then i like, I was overconfident.
So I was rotating my funds in BNB chain.
Then I lost so much money in BNB tokens in a few months.
So like nowadays, like I'm hoping someone to guide me, like, what should I do next?
And I just ended my crypto journey and I left no funds.
Okay, so you got rich for some time
and then you're back to square one.
This is your problem.
You can think like that.
So first of all, you're not alone.
Majority of the people are in the same situation.
First of all, stop thinking that you're some sort of an alien
and you're the only one who fucked up and everybody here in this space is like printing hard and they're going to make fun of you.
A majority of the people, they are in the same situation.
You know, so that's totally fine.
You made money because ignorance is a bliss.
Because everybody who didn't make money on this run, he used to think that he's educated.
You know, he don't want to bid anything like that.
They want to, you know, bid alts. You know, their alts never pumped, you know, because they want to bid anything like that they want to you know bid orts you know
their all's never pumped you know because they wanted to invest in tech but the money was going
into meme coins and all the other stuff so you made money based on your ignorance and you lost
money based on your ignorance as well because you know what if good times don't last bad times don't
last either you know so this is the situation but yeah don't lose hope don't quit your
journey you know uh there is hope you know and as long as you're alive there is always a way
you know when you when you are six feet under the ground then start thinking like the way you are
thinking right now okay you did it once you will definitely do it again you know you just have to
like find a little bit of strength deep down in your fucking heart and then you have to keep going
Because that's how it works, you know, so you can DM me again on TG. I'll talk to you. Okay?
Don't be emotional and shit. Yeah. Stop feeling like you're an alien
So how can I DM you like your DMs are close?
I will DM you myself. I got your right your handle now. I'll DM you. Okay
All right. who's next how did you how did you make money in 2014 bro he was bidding everything he was
bidding everything every stupid dog shit coin was pumping you know and since you know new people
don't go into logic and shit he made money and then later when trump and every other big boy
took their money you know they have no idea what to
do because they were like you know the the casino this kind of casino or the solana mean coin casino
is like infinite money glitch you know and that rule changed so he lost it it's just that he was
like before i was bidding i was printing money now i'm bidding i'm losing money what the is wrong
with me this is the kind of mentality he's having right now so that now he's kind of like frustrated
so it's just that he needs someone to talk to right now. So that now he's kind of like frustrated. So it's just that he need
someone to talk to right now. Okay, what should I, somebody to like give him hope? Because you know,
sometimes we need validation from others to feel good. He's lonely, he cannot talk to his family
because his mother, father, sister, brother won't understand what he's going through, you know,
because they're like, you know, people in this kind of situation, parents or siblings, they think
that you are in love and your girlfriend dumped you.
And now you are suicidal and shit.
And that's not the case.
Because you're all the time seeing the phone.
Your parents are like, your motherfucker is reading all the conversations which he had
with his girlfriend or whatever.
Maybe he want to come out of the closet.
You never know.
There can be many reasons.
But he wants someone, a crypto boy, to come talk to him and give him hopey and
then it'll be good to go you know so don't worry about it i got him who is next who one of you
want to take let's see if kelvin came out the toilet yeah kelvin go ahead this time of the day
it's same brother your phone is like it's like you're talking from miles away or in a cave
like you're talking from miles away or in a cave no it's still the same buy a new phone
buy a new phone okay who is next um yeah hi guys hi guys how are you everyone we're doing just
fine how are you doing i'm doing really fine because in Croatia is really sunny and beautiful weather so I'm enjoying
yeah we have like thousand islands you should come visit us I come to Croatia, but secretly, you know, I love Croatia. What do you want to say to us, Luca?
Yeah, I just, I was listening to all of you and, uh, you all have well at points.
I just want to bring my perspective also from the psychology, um, point of view about where
we are as nations as a human race right so we need to understand that
really something is wrong with this mic or i don't know did you see the voice was bouncing
back again and again no he's gone he's gone he just requested okay who is next in line
all these three speakers yeah because my energy levels are now going down.
Okay, meme mania.
Meme mad.
Yeah, go ahead.
He's not talking.
Gab should talk.
Okay, Gab, let's go.
Hello, Gab.
Hello, Ben. Hello, everybody. You see see i like you see hi
pretty good i'm doing pretty good okay man i want to put it simple i don't like donald trump
him is he's a scammer i like to say it because manipulating the market
so your family can make money
is not fair, to be honest.
That is what I wanted to say.
What did you say?
He just called you a scammer, bro.
Can you fucking believe it?
Literally, the guy who was so nice to you
was like, hello, bull.
Hello, Benben.
You are a scammer.
It's right. I want to Hello, Ben. Ben, you are a scammer.
It's right.
I want to know, how did I scam you?
Bro, he is frustrated.
Of course, he will come and get his frustration out.
You know, when you're failing in life,
of course, you are a punching bag. You're a girl.
You're a punching bag.
So the guy came in and you're like, you know what, Ben, you're a scammer.
You know, I lost money because of you.
Just like you're a financial advisor.
Fuck that.
Anyways, who's next?
Reem.
Hi, Reem.
How are you?
Hello.
I just have one question. Pardon me for my English. I just want to ask if I can I now enter in all my money or wait a little?
I just have one question.
Pardon me for my English.
Are we in Iraq?
I'm from Iraq.
Iraq. So,
Okay, thank you. فما عرف انه لازم عزز على عملاتي حاليا بس انه خايفة بنفس الوقت لانه صالي تقريبا شي شهرين اني بس اعزز بحيث انه صار يعني المبلغ كبر علي كثير كثير كبر علي
فحاليا متردد انه عزز يعني ما عرف
انه هلأ احنا ببار ماركت هذا البيجي كوسمان فورمي We are in bear market. This is the biggest question for me. if it's the right time to DCA that's the question
that is a very good question
that's a very honest actually question
that's an honest question bro
this is the question I wanted to hear from people
be straight forward guys we are fucked
what should we do
should we buy more or should we wait
so what do you recommend her
I will probably say to DCA Should we buy more or should we wait? You know? So what do you recommend her? So me personally, I, Reem, I'm going to speak English, okay?
And then let me DM you so you can, let me follow you so you can DM me later if you want.
Okay, so the DCA always works, right?
works right but the issue is this is we are in a very unstable market and as reem said maybe
But the issue is this, is we are in a very unstable market.
her last money is what she wants to use to dca and i heavily do not recommend that
i rather if you wait until whatever coins you are involved in goes back to your entry price and then
you think from there either you price and then you think from there
either you sell and then you have better entries somewhere else i don't know what projects you
are involved in. Reem, do you want to say to us like one?
Okay, I saw an investment in mafia and I put it in it. اللي انتي فيها. اوكي مثلا اه اي سويت انو بمافيا وحطت لها
تعزيز وهذا التعزيز يعني طلعني من الصفقة وطلعني بارباح جدا كانت
جميلة. سويتها ذاك الشهر. حاليا نفس الشي يعني رجعت بالارباح اللي
سويتها ورأس المال اللي صار عندي من مافيا. رجعت عززت على باقي
العملة تقريبا عندي 11 عملة
بس انه المشكلة
المشكلة هنا صارت انه كل ما اعززون
انزل مكان الدخول كل ما انه قاعد العملات يعني صار
حرفين حرفين تصريف علي فانه خايفة يكون هيت
واغلب العملات هي عملات اني حاليا اني
يعني عندي تقريبا 3 ا 4 ميم كوينز. الباقي عملت يعني مثلا عندي الافأل ام سوت بها.
للأسف كان جدا صغير بالبداية بلشت تقريبا ب 2k وصلت المبلغ يعني صار تقريبا 15K. Good. So, I'm going to put it in the Binance.
The list.
Tag.
Not the list, but...
Monitoring tag.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
So, I'm going to put it in the message.
Send me, send me the message on DM.
I'll see the work that you have and I'll we should run the space later. All right.
So I guess we should run the space right now.
I will speak with Dream in DMs and I will say thanks to you, Bull BNB.
No need to swore with me, bro.
Just handle that.
That will be very good.
And I guess that we can just run the space and we can do it again tomorrow.
Okay.
All right. Let's do that.
Guys, whoever didn't get a chance
to speak to us today,
we're going to do another one tomorrow.
If Mr. Bull B&B agrees to that.
No, I'll be in the mood.
I'll be in the mood.
Yeah, me too.
I think so because I've never been
in a space that took this long
because I was enjoying it,
speaking to everyone.
Thank you very much
guys thank you bulby mb for inviting me to these beautiful spaces as ever and um i will speak with
you tomorrow inshallah done guys take care talk to you guys tomorrow same time same coffee and
crypto bullshits take care Take care.
