All right, I think we've got it sorted.
So let's get kicked off, we'll add Chibi to the space here, hopefully she's good.
Chibi is in the space, but she is going to be hanging out in the audience today.
And we will kick off our space with the introduction.
I would like to welcome everyone to Collab Community.
Thank you all for joining today.
We do have a POAP available that will be able to be claimed starting at 3.30 p.m.
So if you're interested in catching that, you should have your POAP app ready.
Before the mid phrase, when we get there, I will tell you that you will enter it,
you will play the whack-a-mole game of the numbers,
and then you will get a fabulous space to commemorate today.
On the stage, we are excited to have, as I noted, Angela Young, who's the CCO
and co-founder of Abridged.io, the creator of Collab Live.
She is in the audience, she's not on stage today, but she's still here to support.
And then we have Chibi as well, who is our Discord mod lead and fabulous Comm Teams member.
And most exciting for me, I think, today, we have a very, very special guest.
I am super excited to introduce her to you all.
She is a Web 3.0G since 2017, so even predates me a little bit in the space.
She's the former CMO of Cool Cats and Neopets, a super early adopter of crypto kitties,
and is one of the first and most impactful women that I was lucky enough to connect with
in the space when I first landed here.
So I'm super honored to introduce Michaela today.
Thank you so much for joining.
Oh, thank you so much, Moose.
First of all, I don't know what I should call you.
Should I call you Rude Moose or Moose?
You could do Rude Moose, Moose Candy.
I respond to all of them.
Sounds good, sounds good.
Thank you so much for the very sweet introduction.
It is just as much an honor to be here and chat with you.
And I know we have personally gone back quite a few years.
I'm actually surprised to hear you're not from the 2017 crypto kitties era,
but I guess we will get into that.
But yeah, thank you, everyone who's joined.
And I see some familiar faces in the chat.
I'm very grateful and happy to see my friends here supporting as well.
And I will say I was close to 2017.
I was like January 16th of 2018.
Ah, but not a true OG, not a 2017 OG.
I still have much to learn.
But it is amazing to have you here.
Six plus years, like math is weird.
So like Web3 Elderly, for sure, for sure.
Let's start with a little bit of backstory for you
because I know that some people are familiar with you
and some, this is their first time meeting you.
So let's hear you behind the scenes.
What did you do before you got involved in Web3?
You know, what were you dreaming of doing?
And, you know, what led you here?
Well, it's quite a story.
But I'll start off just by saying, you know,
I've always been the kind of weird, derpy, nerdy, quirky kid
that loved learning and growing.
And I always dreamt, you know,
even from a young age of being a lifelong student.
So I, being a very naive person at the time,
thought the only way to achieve this
was through literally studying.
And I chose to dedicate my life to science and medicine.
And I became a pre-med student,
which I realize, actually,
we were chatting a little earlier, Rigmas,
that you kind of resonates with you too, right?
It sounds like we had a very similar path
because I was, as a little kid,
I was like, oh, you're so smart.
And I was like, well, of course I should be a doctor.
I should make everybody proud.
I should help people and learn how to do all the things.
And it turns out, mostly,
I just like to learn how to do all the things.
I totally feel you on that one.
Yeah, I wanted to be a neurologist
because I thought that was the cool thing,
But yeah, so also being kind of a nerdy, derpy, quirky kid,
I was also a huge, huge neopian.
I was a player of the game Neopets,
which is a digital pet game
for those of you who are unfamiliar
and not as nerdy as we are.
Some of my pets had not made it
because I forgot to take care of them.
You have to visit them, you know what I mean?
And we'll just put them in the cockroach towers
But yeah, that was, I think,
one of the first things that you and I connected on
because that's a throwback.
And I guess that really dates us
if you were playing Neopets back in the day.
But oh, yeah, yeah, the internet was fun.
Well, so my passions pretty much,
I mean, for Neopets, for gaming,
for all the nerdy things, being a pre-med student,
they all kind of came together in this really weird way.
I began producing a genetics-based digital pet game
And I had my first foray into the world of marketing
by bringing the game to Kickstarter,
which was miraculously crazy.
It was just crazy that it was successfully funded.
And it was my first real foray into the world of marketing.
I don't know how it happened,
but I absolutely fell in love with the world of marketing.
I realized I had a knack and a passion for it,
as well as some more entrepreneurial things.
So yeah, I became a marketer.
I became a specifically gaming industry niche marketer
and have really never looked back.
I like to call it my Bob Ross happy accident, if you will.
All the best things really happen that way.
It's hard to plan for stuff,
but when it happens, it's magic.
Yeah, I would certainly call it magic.
how did you end up in Web 3?
because I know I started in Cryptocities
in a very ridiculous sort of way,
but how did you end up in Crypto in Web 3?
First of all, can't wait to get into the ridiculous way.
or into Cryptocities specifically.
But yeah, to answer your question,
so Cryptocities first came out
in I believe it was November 2017.
At the time, I was a little marketing manager
at a cute little venture capital firm.
And the partners of the firm were discussing
how do we get in on the action?
Because Cryptocities was going viral.
I mean, I think it made, what,
20, $40 million in the first month.
I mean, that was the day, man.
they saw an opportunity in me
because I was still working on
the genetics-based digital pet game
that I mentioned earlier.
It also happened to be a potentially great framework
for what could potentially become
the next Cryptocities competitor,
which was music to the partners ears
at that venture capital firm.
So yeah, and going from marketing manager there
I was thrust into the other side of venture capital.
to being an inventor or entrepreneur
and meeting with investors
and having these crazy conversations
I will say Tim Draper's firm was among them.
They used words, phrases thrown around
I actually met up with a group of investors
at this little winery across the street from my house.
And they threw all these words around.
They were all very encouraging and excited
and getting me all amped up about this.
And I walked back from that winery to my house
and my mom was waiting for me inside.
And she was like, yeah, how'd it go?
You know, was everything, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And talking to me about maybe what we're having for dinner.
And I just looked at her.
They're talking about investing $20 million into my game.
Those are not things that you, as a kid,
when you're like, oh, I must study
and learn how to do all the things.
Like, that's not something you put on.
You're like, this is what I'm going to do, checklist.
No, it really just hit me out of nowhere.
It was absolutely one of the coolest experiences of my life
to be able to even just have those kinds of conversations
and to be exposed to those awesome entrepreneurs.
I will say the investment never came to fruition,
which is a very, very, very common story
in the venture capital world.
But it did lead me to doing a deep dive on Web3.
This was back when Web3 wasn't even called Web3
and when NFTs were not called NFTs.
I guess they weren't NFTs till they ever named them.
So, yeah, I was absolutely interested
in the potentials of the space.
I started researching Cryptokitties even more extensively.
I was so drawn to the entrepreneurial nature of it all.
And in December 2017, I believe December 11th specifically,
because I looked recently, I bought my first Cryptokitty,
which was the very first NFT I've owned.
And it's been a journey since then.
Man, I think I made the tweet about it back in January,
celebrating my six-year anniversary
of my first kitty I purchased,
which, by the way, I bought it,
and then I sold it to the Valentine's...
and then I sold it to the Valentine's whale
Remember, because they were just auto-accepting kitties,
Gen Zeros, as long as they were above the certain price point,
So I used that ETH to fund most of my future gaming.
And then had, a couple of years later,
So I do have my original very first Cryptokitty.
But selling her part a couple months in
was the catalyst to give me more ETH to play.
So it's been a fun ride, for sure.
You got to use the Cryptokitty
to essentially spur your further investments
and then you ended up coming full circle
And I have like 9,000 more kitties than that.
Ill bullish on Cryptokitties, by the way.
There's definitely nostalgia there, for sure.
and some of the OGs like Poppa and Kitty International
are still working on doing updates to the site
and trying to move the kitties forward.
So they've been doing a lot of really good work,
I'd love to eventually see my Gen-O go up in value, too.
We've got 12 minutes until the Poops.
I think we have time to cover this before we...
But at some point, I may interrupt us
and go, hold on to the Poops slide.
But you and I, we first met in the Cryptokitties community
So I want to talk about that
because it's really interesting to me
that a very large number of people in this space
started in Cryptokitties.
And I think that's not an exaggeration
if you look at people who have built stuff,
whether it was like Jimmy with Avastars
The common thread is Cryptokitties.
We build and stuff, but they all started.
This was kind of like the thing that...
I don't want to say kick-started their entrepreneurialism
because it most definitely didn't,
but they were the type of people
that were drawn to this product.
And so that was really interesting.
And it really is kind of the start
of Web3 entrepreneurialism.
Sorry, entrepreneurialism.
I'm going to stumble through this one.
Entrepreneurship, rather.
Yeah, I remember befriending
some early Cryptokitties players
that have ever since, you know,
like Jiho become Web3moguls.
was a friend of mine back in the day.
We would talk about Neopets
he went on to launch Axie Infinity
in 2018, 2019, something like that.
The thing that when I first joined
because he frequently referred
to Diablo and World of Warcraft.
That's kind of where I came from.
Like I did Neopets, you know,
but like the only like real video games
I played have been Blizzard based
But like Blizzard is like my franchise.
My whole wall has Blizzard art on it.
Like I super nerd out about that.
So when he was talking about,
you know, Diablo and how for a while
they had the real market auction house.
he was like farming things
And Web3 is like an extension of that
because it takes it to that next level
where when you have the assets,
they can't be taken away.
Your account can't get banned.
Like this stuff is yours.
like that's like clicking in place.
Like there's some appeal to that for sure.
Yeah, I mean, that's one of the greatest
use case of blockchain technology,
So yeah, I think he was a really
and a really interesting guy now.
And someone who has really blossomed
And I just have enjoyed cheering him on
watching, you know, as he's grown.
I will say one of the other people
is actually you, Rudemos.
We kind of gravitated towards each other
in a really kind of funny way.
You know, as the only two,
I wouldn't say the only two women
in the Cryptokitties discord,
but we were very, very few and far
Yeah, so and an interesting,
I was just telling Anjali
about this the other day, right?
Because, you know, she was excited
that and Chibi's here too,
to, you know, do these Twitter spaces
hey, we're like kind of like this
like it's all women on the panel.
And I was like, yeah, that's cool.
Cryptokitties, there were there were women,
you and I being some of them, right?
But like I have always been Rudemos,
which is a very ambiguous name intentionally.
And, you know, my avatar is not gendered,
and it's funny because even though
I was doing the Twitch streams
if people didn't come to the stream,
I was a dude and that was fine.
But, you know, like We're Kitty,
for example, like was very,
you know, ambiguous about,
you know, answering questions,
because it maybe wasn't as welcoming,
depending on how you were presented,
Queen Cryptoria for sure.
And Jodi back in the day.
So, you know, so there were,
but I mean, the fact that
you can count on one hand,
that were active and making themselves
you know, is really telling.
Yeah, telling is a is a good descriptor.
Because yeah, in the early days,
like those little in groups
already were starting, you know,
and it was all it was all
And they were they were these little,
by the way, for everyone in the chat
this predated Twitter spaces in Clubhouse.
There was something called a Kitty Club,
which was a spinoff Discord server
from the Cryptokitties server.
And they were the OG alpha groups.
They were very selective.
And they were predominantly,
Rude Moose, we're like, let's
let's just create our own Kitty Club
just for women and non binary people.
And we're going to sarcastically call it.
And then I think it's hilarious
because they're inappropriate
and I love it a little cheeky,
which is the thing, though,
how I got started in web three.
This is exactly how it happened
where Cryptokitties on the website
but the FAQ literally said,
yes, these are kitties that are DTF.
And I was like, you know what?
But I think that like that hundred percent,
the thing that I was like,
look, I know nothing about crypto,
because I need to make these kitties smash.
Like this is the most ridiculous thing
And at the time, like my well, my now ex,
you know, mentioned that he heard
about this really stupid website.
And I was like, I'm gonna check it out.
like I'm gonna give him my money.
And that's how I started.
And web three was literally
because the crypto kitties website
and it said they were DTF.
And I was like, you know what?
I will give you the dollars.
So like I made a meta mask.
You know, onboarding is still
not the smoothest process,
but it was like, rough back then.
And I was like, I'm gonna do it
Because man, like, this is silly.
So then, yes, the, you know,
I mean, it just, you know,
going off of what you just said,
like the space really was
I'd love to kind of explore
the fact that we had to create
was kind of, I don't know.
I mean, it was hilarious at the time,
but now I look back on it
and I'm like, I'm so glad
that doesn't exist anymore.
as many exclusive safe spaces
I mean, it's a little bit
entrepreneurial think tank.
And we ideated spin-off games,
I want to pull Chibi into this
because she has commented
that like she used to play Neobets.
your opinion on this person
who's like so far removed
of this weird stuff we were doing.
But like, if you could do Neopets
how do you feel about that?
I would absolutely love that
because I love my account
with my best friend at the time.
And so we would play together
and get everything together.
And it was such happy days.
like what you're describing nowadays,
I mean, because the magic
every day and do these things.
And it was really gamifying habits
that could have translated
so well to Crypto Kitties.
And I think it's really useful
in the Web3 space in general,
to come back and do the thing.
And maybe you get something,
Spin the wheel of fortune
I feel the same way, honestly.
I personally wouldn't say
that Neopets itself really
belonged on Web3 in any capacity.
But I will say that the ideas
behind it, the very entrepreneurial nature
that make Web3 very special.
took inspiration from it,
a lot of really cool projects
out there in the coming years.
That would be super exciting, I think.
And that's the cool thing about,
back when we were looking into this,
there's so much potential for this space.
And even now, six years later,
that would be pretty groundbreaking
but it gives people something
here, these 10K collections.
and you're part of a community,
but the community has to create,
in a large part, the narrative itself
to have shared experiences
for people to participate in
Heck yeah, I completely agree.
it didn't make it to the world.
because there's always potential,
like one day we'll be ready
always love to work with you.
I know there's less than a minute,
for the POAP to be claimable.
So I want to get us started
So on your mobile POAP app,
in the bottom right corner.
And your secret word for today
It is in the title of the space
It's the second to last word,
number whack-a-mole game,
available for you to commemorate
attending this event today
with the amazing Michaela
and we will get you hooked up.
which as noted was Neopets,
but also kind of bringing
more of that type of world
And I know that you actually
had experience with Neopets,
maybe beyond that of a normal user,
I did serve as CMO of Neopets,
You know, I actually started
when I was eight years old.
That probably dates me a bit.
since I was eight years old.
from a very different perspective,
I think, for most people.
And in case you don't know,
it is a digital pet game,
still going strong today.
I would even say it ushered
into the modern internet.
Oh my God, it totally did.
What's so special about it?
those who think it's a great
That's my hot take for the day.
to Neopets that's special
I mean, think about this.
Like, I was an eight year old kid, right?
Imagine an eight year old
restocking her player shop,
collecting interest in the bank.
oh, we even did creative things
Remember coding your user lookup
it was interesting, right?
Because it taught a lot of
real life transferable skills
it didn't feel like you were learning, right?
when you're talking about interest,
well, now that I'm adult,
and how I used to claim it.
Now people are claiming it for me
and translate that to Web3,
translate that to the makers
and starting with Neopets.
in marketing and game development.
But like so many artists,
writers and creative types,
to get to work with them.
And I'll just say like the other
thing about being an eight-year-old
is just the idea of like,
okay, being exposed to ideas
like there's literally a stock market
and there's this rich lore
and there's this kind of cheeky humor
and on about how much I love Neopets,
but the matter of the fact is
been exposed to it at a young age.
because it did come full circle for me.
I became their marketing lead in 2021
in early 2023 and onwards.
I will say major shout out
They pull off some incredibly
I'm no longer with the Neopets team,
but I will be forever cheering
them on from the sidelines.
So I have a question about that,
Sorry, it wasn't on the list
of questions I submitted to you before,
but it just popped in my head.
But like, obviously as a kid,
you were like playing Neopets
that you planned on doing, right?
Because like, you know, dream of like,
the place that I love the most.
fantasize about it a little bit.
So now that you've done it
how has that made you feel?
because I had this experience
where when I got hired in at DAP
you know, I was like, I'm a doctor,
except that when I switched
I switched to communication
and my mom was like really disappointed.
what are you going to do with that?
I was like, I like football
Maybe I could do something
or something in that range
because like stuff that I love.
So when I got into web three
the NFL all day community
and interview NFL players.
I got to interview rock stars
and you're like Ryan Tedder
from, you know, One Republic.
all the things on my bucket list.
So did you have an experience
what are you going to do?
I feel I absolutely feel that way.
it was a full circle moment.
that I would be working there
like I don't have a good answer to that.
all the things ahead of me
being a part of something
really awesome as like another CMO
I love little entrepreneurial
I am an indie game producer
I don't think we talked about that,
there's a bunch of things.
there's no one thing, right?
And that's something like,
I almost ran into this like,
but kind of because I was like,
my God, like if I could do anything,
And now that I've done it,
yeah, I guess I can do anything now
because I've done the things.
that's a really interesting
side effect of what Web 3
is being able to connect people
with goals that they either
didn't think were attainable
or didn't even know they had.
I love that the space is so,
has become at least so inclusive
and that it is such a safe
like a pioneer or a forward thinker
I would say other amazing
opportunities and digital cats,
you as a community builder and marketer
also were the CMO for Cool Cats,
which must have been a super wild ride.
Can you tell us about that?
Because we love the cats.
We've made tweets about the cats.
and it's such an incredible honor.
I absolutely adored my time at Cool Cats
and I remain so incredibly bullish on the team
and especially the founders
who are my close friends now.
You know, I follow their projects,
whether they are, you know,
still working on other things
like Ilu's ghost boy and et cetera.
I've always wanted to support them.
I will say some of the coolest things
of getting to work on at Cool Cats
were the rebrand campaign
oh, I see Merv is in the chat.
He's giving me hearts right now.
He was the community manager at Cool Cats
and is one of the coolest,
ha ha, coolest people I've ever met
So I worked on the Cool Cats rebrand campaign.
I worked on the Cool Cats FC product launch.
Getting Blue Cat featured as a balloon
in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade last year.
Like there was an NFT giant one
And it was part of a campaign
where just all of our holders
to see something so incredible happen.
And that campaign was led incredibly well
by my friend Jarvis at Cool Cats.
He knocked it out of the park.
I feel honored to have worked with him
and to have been able to support
that campaign with my marketing as well.
And, you know, I led a lot of,
you know, partnership opportunities,
in collaboration with people
who would become what I hope
would be my lifelong friends,
Laurie Harding and Pete Williamson.
So yeah, I mean, it was one
of the coolest experiences ever.
Again, not knock on wood,
and weird to pull it off.
Here's the problem I found
is that when I am trying to be funny,
I tend to use a lot of like,
general gestures and like facial expressions
that come across in spaces.
So like you're missing half the content
as I'm like waving around my office here.
but my hand is in a brace.
My hand is in a brace right now.
So I'm kind of like equally awkward
So here's a question too,
as you're talking about doing
the marketing for Cool Cats,
which is a very interesting thing, right?
Because marketing traditionally
does not translate as nicely
to web three as one would think.
So like, how did you deal with that?
Like, I guess did you have any like,
you know, weird learning curves
like this is this is not the thing.
And then we had a whole new approach.
So I will say I've been in web three
as a marketer beyond just Cool Cats,
but throughout my experience,
I've really learned that community is key.
You have to know when to listen
move forward with your professional
understanding of, you know,
how a lot of the audience
of what's going on behind the scene.
And sometimes you may have some,
or people in the comments
we don't see anything happening.
yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you know.
I mean, it's something every
literally every founder experiences.
like, just listen to the community
within reason, again, asterisk.
That's something I don't see
in doing klanosaurs right now.
He's doing really cool content.
And just like, I don't know,
like I want to see more stuff
or well, obviously Twitter,
you know, more innovative ideas
that we are not used to seeing
like actually branching out
And who's been killing it?
I'm also really interested
have been quietly building
And, you know, you won't really
know until a few months from now,
maybe how much they have done.
And marketing is just so important,
not just in for any industry,
And you really did hit the nail
as opposed to Web2 marketers,
because it's just a different,
there's a different community.
in the different organizations
that I've been in, right,
people who are hired externally,
because a lot of my like,
but a lot of my marketing experience
was like direct experience
And so for people who have like
a bunch of marketing experience
and then they try to come
And it's one of those things
how it maybe needs to be adjusted.
Like, no, no, this works.
And I'm like, okay, well,
But also things are on fire now.
And that's really interesting,
I think, because on, you know,
the surface doesn't seem like
it would be that different.
kind of get your hands dirty
which I very much consider myself
So yeah, I mean, just being able
being able to just jump on
you know, able to address
like going back to the beginning
really allowed me to flex
that creative marketing muscle.
And I again, I'm so forever
grateful for that experience.
You know, it was it was an absolute
so closely with Colin slash,
I guess I call him Colin,
He's he's just such an inspiring
artist slash entrepreneur.
And one of the best things
was kind of create and nurture
the narrative of his journey
from a struggling independent artist
is one of the most renowned
So yeah, I will say like,
and especially we love the Klon.
So since you covered this a little bit,
but I want to hear more about it, right?
Because I was going to ask originally
if your web three adventure
has remained solely digital,
which mine has I to this day
have not actually in person
met anybody from web three.
It's I think at this point
given how long I've been here.
But what I want to know is like,
have you gone to IRL experiences?
you've kind of curated some
and mostly we just want to live
So tell us stories, please.
Okay, well, I come with stories.
My first web three event IRL
and I believe it was in 2022?
2021, 2022, I think something like that.
The years kind of blur together at this point.
But I went on behalf of the Neopets team.
I went as a person at the company
who knew a lot about web three.
Although I never had any involvement
in the Neopets metaverse project.
I just kind of went to be a rep
essentially to talk about Neopets
and have people geek out about it with me.
And I will say shout out to my mom,
a fellow Deejin at Leslie Thompson.
Yeah, she also went to support me
at my first web three event,
and she even reps Neopets there as well.
It was crazy because like I got to meet
a lot of my web three heroes IRL,
It's so cool to just get to see these people
and be like, Oh my gosh, you are,
you are really for a physical.
You are a person, a human being.
The highlight actually was meeting my friends
from my alpha group method to the mythos,
which I will say we got a,
we got a really cute picture
in front of a sign at NFT NYC
and I'll definitely share it later on Twitter.
But the other thing at that same
although it was an offshoot,
was I got the chance to visit
the IRL Kultopia activation that year,
which was like the coolest web three experience.
but like it was incredible.
And I had the funny story
that I always tell people
I had already accepted my new role
as CMO of cool cats by this point,
but I had not been announced yet.
Oh, I was totally undercover.
In fact, I introduced myself
to all of my new friends at Kultopia
as the new intern at cool cats.
I know I, I, I thought about
kind of like what those people
must have thought afterwards
I also say not a web three event,
very much a web two event,
but the Neopets activation
at last year's San Diego Comic Con
will absolutely go down in history
as one of the best fandom experiences
I've ever gotten to manage.
the team and I pulled off
It was at a private venue
that we rented in downtown San Diego.
And it was a 90s slash 2000s party
with, you know, like Britney Spears music
booming over the loud speaker
Oh man, as the cool kids say
Back when we were kids and cool.
And the crazy thing is the line
wrapped around several blocks.
And I felt so bad at the time.
these people have been waiting in line
So me and a bunch of my teammates
actually ended up running over
to a pizzeria across the street.
And we bought a bunch of pizza boxes
and brought them to the line,
I mean, sometimes the things
or social mention or media,
like, sometimes those are the most
special niche moments with the fans,
you know, because we just sat there
and we ate pizza on the floor
on the street, on the street in New York,
basically just chilling and talking.
Amazing though, because that gives you
and the people, you know,
who are waiting in line to do this thing.
Even though they might have to wait
forever and not even get in,
they still got to participate.
in a way that is even maybe
more intimate than had they gotten in.
Yeah, I mean, they actually got to meet
That's the Neopets team face to face.
and talk about our favorite Neopets.
we did end up getting everyone
we had people coming into the party
than Disney's Comic Con after party,
which, I mean, as a marketer,
I was like, wow, what a moment.
What a highlight of my career.
meeting and mingling with the fans,
the holders, team members,
players, the list goes on.
The community is, by far,
the best part of this biz.
I think, that has kept me
in web 3 so long are the people.
especially with web 3 being
very closely tied to markets.
whether it's NFTs or coins
the market's going to market.
And if that's all you're here for,
it's going to be real stressful.
But if you are able to connect
and kind of build that community
and have these extra sorts
of ways to experience it,
I think that's where the magic happens.
Yeah, stay for the experiences,
the people, the community,
Yeah, so speaking of that,
that I had prepared for you.
as we talked about earlier,
and there weren't a whole lot
of lady folk being out visibly.
I said maybe there were many
that were being more anonymous,
but out visibly was a thing.
I want to know if you have
Yeah, that's a good question.
I would say the biggest difference
between the web 3 of yesteryear,
because again, I'm super cool.
And now is really how accessible
a little bit in this space.
we'd hear of new projects
and we'd be completely chomping
that's not always a good thing.
some unfortunate early stage rugs.
for new ideas and people.
there's a lot of opportunity
start opening your hearts
and minds to new creators.
BIPOC and neurodiverse creators
with your words, your actions,
And that includes creator royalties.
I'm gonna make a brief will here
very much collab land values.
And eventually, we're on stage,
But collab land specifically
has actually built into our TGRs
wanted to give people special roles
for only having also paid royalties
has kind of rugged everyone
which directly supports the creators
because now you can reward those
are getting taken care of.
So that's I think something
Just as you said, supporting
And kudos to you guys for that too.
I do think that as a space
we are on the right path today
opportunity in the space right now.
to support and nurture it.
What we absolutely do not need
like Not A Lady's Kitty Club.
I think it's time to retire,
at the time it felt necessary,
It's nice to be able to engage
because speaking of things
that are relevant to that,
actually a no bros allowed
So let me drop that in here.
supporting the women of Web3
not that we're trying to,
try to create these spaces
where people can then start
like you need to be all the time,
but rather a starting point
That's the important part, I think.
And also, that's super cool
that you guys are doing that.
I wish I were going to NFT NYC
but I will be living vicariously
through everybody who is.
I'm like, please take more pictures
And it's exciting, though,
you know, different initiatives
you know, at the IRL events
and kind of leading up to them.
And it's just really exciting.
And I like how things have grown,
that I have not asked you today
It's a question for you, though.
Have you ever tried hearts of palm?
I will take that as a no.
yeah, yeah, look up Google images.
It's a like part of a palm tree.
It's very similar in taste
to like an artichoke heart.
it is by far my favorite food.
and eat it almost every day
Just a fun fact about me.
Do you just like, can you YOLO?
It looks like I'm in a little jar, maybe.
Normally people will cut them up
and put them into salads.
But for me, I will just go rogue
and eat them out of the can.
It's pretty gross, but it's awesome.
because a lot of things I'll do
because it looks similar to,
as you said, artichoke hearts
and also like a water chestnut, maybe.
I like to throw those things
into a pan and just kind of stir fry them.
So could this also go in there?
There's so many things you could do
with it as a part of a recipe.
And yeah, I would just say
there literally are communities on Discord
like the Neopets Slack group
that have hearts upon cans
essentially because they know
who likes briny, yummy foods to try it.
People don't know what it is,
You come for the marketing advice.
You also get awesome food advice.
Like we are 100% covering
to go obtain some of these.
You won't be disappointed.
I'm always a big fan of new food.
I'm making chicken marsala tonight.
But ooh, love it on the list for later.
Well, I know we are surprisingly
Like we've only got over a couple of minutes,
which I know we were very unsure
if we were going to be able to stick to it
which I'm not supposed to be here forever
because story time is always fun.
But I know that people have things
So maybe we will close up the space for today
unless there's anything else.
And we could definitely recap
or do another one of these later on.
or if anybody in the audience
wants to come share story time
or Anjali or the Clabland account.
man, it's just fun to hear
about people's experiences
and learn from all of the cool things
that people have done in the space.
an absolute marketing rock star.
And I'm really looking forward
to seeing all of the things
It's been six years of fun
to the next infinite number.
Oh, thank you so much, Rudemus.
Thank you to Chibi and Anjali as well.
I really appreciate you guys
And it's just been such an honor
I haven't been on a Twitter spaces in a while.
this is such a cool opportunity.
So yeah, thank you guys so much.
You've shared a lot of really awesome
and the Web3 space as a whole
for people to be able to see.
Because it's one of those things.
I think unless you can see yourself
it's hard to put it as a goal, right?
So you are out here doing the things
that people can now dream about
and kind of put themselves in your shoes.
And that's really, really cool.
I want to thank our audience
for being here as always too,
having the conversations,
for being the most awesome
And I think that's all I have.
I am super looking forward
to following along on your journey.
I would give her a follow
as well as the collab land account
Chibi, we have Town Hall tomorrow, right?
That's at 1230 p.m. eastern
You can find a link to it
Yes, I will be putting a tweet
So come join us for Town Hall tomorrow
in the collab land Discord.
I'm going to close up the space
and we will see you all out there