All right, GMGM hope everybody's having themselves a great day so far.
If you could in the audience, give me a thumbs up if you can hear me, I just want to make
sure that we've got good audio.
Got a big show ahead today, excited you're here, if you could just do us one big favor
and just retweet the space, we will be getting things started here momentarily.
Just want to make sure we've got everybody listening, hearing, and here.
All right, I'm gonna start things off a little bit of music.
As you guys know, we like to get the vibe right in here while I bring everybody up to stage.
Please make sure you retweet and we'll get into what you can put in the comments section
and the replies in just a little bit.
I am absolutely fired up about today's space, so I think we're gonna start off with a little
bit of a new take on We Didn't Start the Fire.
We didn't start the fire.
We didn't start the fire.
We didn't start the fire.
and tubs go all the way again
Oh, Ronald Spielberg explosion, never, huh?
The cute little gama, Bobby John
Call It's Impeach, twice, pull up
It's got no ice, fire, best, black away
Stranger Things, Tiger King
Ever given suit, where's he?
Says the world's been turning
We didn't start the party
But we're trying to find it
Sandy Hook, Columbine, Sacramento, Tammy Rice
And she's all of it, blown away
Captain Michael George, born virtually from Mitchell
Furby, paradise, Venus, it's the radar
SpongeBob, Golden State killer, got caught
Michael Jordan, 40-dot, Woodstock, 99
Cheatin' bad, that must be gone
He didn't start the party
Says the world's been turning
He didn't start the party
But we're trying to find it
Elon Musk, Kaepernick, Texas failed
Electric grid, Jeff Bezos, climate change
White, Rylo, goals extinct
Great Pacific garbage patch
Tom DeLong and Annie N Smalls
Rover, Avatar, self-driving
Ice Prince and McQueen died
What else do I have to say?
We didn't start the party
Says the world's been turning
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
Says the world's been turning
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
We didn't start the party
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, art fans and the alpha-seekers alike, welcome to another episode of Colour Commentary, I'm your host, Stephen Miller, and I'm thrilled that you're with us today because we've got one hell of a show ahead for you.
you're with us today, because we've got one hell of a show ahead for you. Of course, starting
out with something that honestly felt really good. We didn't start the fire. This time
by Fall Out Boy, not the original version. But the reason we started with that is really
simple. We've got a co-host in the house today. So allow me to welcome to the stage before
we get too far into things, our co-host for today, the one and only Flame. Flame, how are
I'm good. Thanks for the kind words and the themed intro. I really appreciate that. I'm
doing good, man. A lot of cool stuff happening in the space. Honored to be up here on stage
with you. Really excited about the guests that you have on stage tonight. So yeah.
Yeah, man, we got a barn burner ahead. It's going to be a lot of fun. And just an invitation
to you and anybody else that wants to pop up on stage throughout. If you have questions
for our guests as we jump into these interviews, please feel free to come up. But we've got
a couple other housekeeping items that I'd like to make sure out there for you. Just
right off the jump tonight. The first one that I always like to lead with is a big shout
out to the TDA. That's the Daily Alpha. Color commentary is a part of the Daily Alpha's
partner network of spaces, and we're thrilled to be a part of that network. You can,
of course, check out the TDA Tuesday through Friday at 10 45 a.m. Eastern time and Saturdays
at 11 30 a.m. Eastern time. Their spaces are some of the most alpha filled that you
can find out there. So please do give them some love. Give them a follow. They're the
other co-host spot this evening as they are on every episode of color commentary. Next
on our laundry list as we get in to the show tonight, we are doing something a little
different on this show, different from others. And that is giving away a lot of
allow list spots. Now, I'm not going to do this the same way that most shows would
because I don't want to mess around with Twitter picker tonight. I think that when
you have a hundred and five allow list spots to give away that kind of ends up
defeating its own purpose. So like I said, we've got one hundred and five that are on
deck tonight from some really, really incredible collection. Some that you'll
hear about tonight, some that you will hear about in drop talk later on in the
show. But we've been gifted some fantastic spots from projects like Palms
from K who you'll hear about in a little bit. O's from Nathan Kornes. Sense
from the team at Sovereign Art. Blob from Neuropunk who you'll hear from in a
little bit and Ordinals Sigma X. So if you want a shot at any of these allow list
spots, here's what I need from you. I need you to go into the lower right hand
corner of the space and I need you to just drop a comment in there, reply with
a little hello, a GM and then your ordinals address and your ETH address. I'm
going to do my best to give that call to action a couple times throughout the
show. But there is just as big of a chance that you'll end up getting
allow listed for a lot of these if you do actually go through that process and
others don't. So please do the work, go down there, drop that info in. It would
be hugely appreciated. But we've got an enormous show ahead. I do want to go
ahead and just be very, very conscientious of time. So to our
fantastic guests, just really quick, if you could just like flash a hand or a
wave, if you are like time constrained and you need to go earlier on in tonight's
show, please just give me a heads up with a wave. Perfect. So neuro, you are a
little bit time crunched. Is that correct? Yeah, yeah, it's my wife's birthday.
So well, that's right. But but definitely could. Yeah, you know, what
do I value upholding the strength of my marriage? So jump off. Absolutely. So
look, let's let's go ahead and start there then. Lynn, big God, Kay, I appreciate
you guys being here and to the audience. I appreciate every single one of you
for coming out. This show has been a blast to run. And again, like I say,
we're just getting started. So I'd love to jump into our first interview
tonight. And that, of course, brings us to neuro. So like I do here, I like to
give a little bit of a quick intro and then we'll dive right on in. So
according to my findings, our first guest tonight may be our best credentialed to
date. neuro is a physician, a researcher and a patient whose life's work revolves
around the convergence of neuro tech, AI, the cypherpunks movement,
decentralization, and how art can become a vessel for answering life's
existential questions. While neuro is an artist who finds himself at the nexus
of multiple worlds, he's crafted masterpieces that immortalize the
resilience of the human spirit in the face of technological evolution. Today,
neuro is joining us to give us the inside scoop very quickly on his upcoming
collection, entitled blob neuro. Welcome to blob commentary. How are you doing
Blob. Yeah, blob. Thanks for that intro. That was, that was really
wonderful. And yeah, so happy to be here, man.
Yeah, we're, we're, we're absolutely thrilled to have you flame blob is
also one blob. What up, dude?
What's going on? Hey, man. I'm very I'm, I'm blob blob static right now to hear
you talk. Likewise, I'm gonna have to work my blob puns. I don't think they're
at your level. But um, it is a blob tastic to be here.
Well, we are very lucky to have you. So neuro, I know that was a pretty
comprehensive intro. Is there anything else that people should know about you
before we start straight into talking blob?
Yeah, totally. I mean, you know, I'm just a dude that likes to make cool
stuff with cool people. Like honestly, I think what kind of got me into crypto
and Bitcoin back in 2015 was just like, as in the medical world, and
basically was told that, you know, there are no great treatments for my
family members who had cancer, and then also, you know, for my brother
who had bipolar, who later ended up unfortunately passing away four years
ago. And around that time, like I just, you know, I've been working in
the cancer space to try to develop better research systems, decentralized
trials, all this stuff in cancer. And I kind of just looked in the mirror
and said, you know, like, my life's purpose is to actually do this in
the neuro psych space, bipolar type two, that was something that kind of
took me a while to accept and to learn and to get on, you know, get
treatments with just with a stigma around everything. It was just, you
know, kind of life is crazy, like being the medical field that actually
made that personally, for me, like a lot harder, there was so much
resistance, like physicians don't, physicians don't get psychiatric
care and stuff was like kind of the vibe. And so, yeah, I kind of in
2020, just really jumped into doing stuff and neuro tech and really
like actually with art, just kind of like, you know, I've done a lot
of like computational neuroscience and other stuff. And I was trying
to do like cool medical things. But I just I found that, like, I
healed myself, and I kind of started becoming parts of
communities and being the people that I valued so much more
through art that it just was like, a really, really special
thing. And I really kind of leaned into that. So when
ordinals came out, I want to met Casey in February of last year.
And, you know, I had no idea exactly how I was going to do
it. But I just knew after that, that kind of legendary Oakland
meetup with Casey and Aaron and many others for off and many,
many others were there that like, you know, ordinals were the
place that I wanted to just try to do this, like try to create
the kind of community that I wish I had had growing up,
maybe a place where people can come and do arts and share
stories and just like be real with each other. And so yeah,
ever since February of last year, I've just been like all
on ordinals. And, you know, with ELOC, my co-founder, we've
built some stuff to try to try to do something different, try
to like honor the spirit of the cypherpunks and, you know, the
cypherpunks movement, which Satoshi, how Finney had him
back, a lot of other legends were a part of or, you know,
like, this is what Jenner was the genesis for Bitcoin. So,
you know, we thought, okay, well, we should we wanted to
do something on ordinals. So that's where we started this
past year, kind of we built a cypherpunk ghost, which is an
art project, which we haven't actually minted, we've just
been only 10 pieces just for some early testing. But we're
trying to really do something new on the tech side, and
I've still very actively been working on that. And we
created something called cypherpunk lab, which is a
community organization for everybody here. We have a
physical hacker space and community space in San
Francisco, that you can come work out of any time we have
an art gallery there as well in partnership with super chief
for anybody here, here, related to ordinals or not
related to crypto ordinals at all, like, if you're just
doing something, you want to show your work, that's a
physical place to do it. And then kind of more broadly
and super chief galleries, you know, around the world. And
then yeah, I've been really mostly actually diving into the
neural realm, which is my kind of, yeah, personal
project, which actually inscribed before any of the
other stuff before cypherpunk ghosts and all that. But
that is a project where I have been just making these
masks. And, you know, I use them to kind of explore the
different realms of our existence. When my brother,
Vinny passed away, you know, I think one brought one
thing that brought me a lot of peace was that, you
know, I really internalized he's not a part of the
physical realm with me, but he's like, always with me.
And I really started to kind of artistically explore
like, well, what does that mean? Like, what is the
mental realm? What is the spiritual? What is the
emotional and like, how do we experience these things
and how do we go from the crazy electrical activity
of the brain to actually like, experiencing reality.
And so the neural realm was that and the the story
with blob was I finally was ready after like working
on this for almost a year to launch my project. And
you know, there's as always, there's like challenges
anytime you build anything new with tech, and we
had built all this cool 3D stuff that just was
still too large to inscribe. So I kind of put out
as a joke, the logo of the neural realm, which
is, you know, it's my current PFP, but our
original one was just like, it looked like a blob.
So I just shared like recruiting for the blob
for me as like a joke, and it went like totally
viral. This was like a week, maybe two weeks ago,
not even like 99% of my DMS notifications since
that time have just been like, blob, like my
favorite are just like people in like a lot of
Chinese folks of like their profiles are just
like Chinese, Chinese, Chinese, blob, Chinese.
And so I was like, okay, this is like insane.
There's some sort of like crazy, fun, viral
meme thing that's like happened here. And so I
just like really actually leaned into it and was
like, Okay, you know what, like blob is this really
cool energy. It's just fun, like in a time where
the world is, it's pretty chaotic. It kind of
was this energy that brought some people together.
And so, you know, we're actually using blob to
kind of unify all those projects. I just
mentioned the cyberpunk goes the lab and the
neural realm. So yeah, super, super excited
about what we have coming with blob. You know,
people in the community have just stepped up to
kind of like make things their own, which has
been so cool, like flame is, you know, flame blob
is, you know, leading spaces. We had our first
art blobs gallery. So we're actually we're
releasing a free collection of 10,000 3D blobs
that are really, really cool, where they're
basically like a digital gallery for your own
art. And they're really cool. You can see some
of them on my profile, some of them on the blob
Twitter. But yeah, we're really stoked. You know,
that's something we've always wanted to do for
the community and super stoked that we're able
to do that in a way that we can just really
make that something that's very accessible for
people. So we're kind of like diving in that
process and you're really looking to launch
that next week. So if you know, if you're
interested in being a part of that, H.O. is
leading the all that collaborative and
community stuff. And so whatever community you're
in, you know, you can there's, you know, we're
trying to make sure that that's widely
available to people and we're always like posting
stuff if you just kind of vibe with us and and
send blobs. You know, you'll definitely have an
opportunity to be a part of this. I'm very
excited about it. We're doing a lot with the
lore that will be dropping soon. So yeah, I
know it's a lot, but I try my best to kind of
keep that dialed in and try to give people a
little bit of sense of what the heck all this
neuro up to because it's, you know, it
definitely can seem like a lot, but I think
it's actually quite, quite coherent. And I
think as we roll out the lore and the way
that we brought it all together to blob, I
think it's going to make a lot of sense. And
so thanks for having me. Yeah, man. It really
does seem like it's a very fun collective of
individuals that you've assembled, but it's
also kind of a an interesting, I don't want
to say dive like too divergent, but it does
seem like a little bit of an aside from the
type of work that you've done or that, you
know, between the masks and other themes of
the work that you've done so far, because
it's really become something of a community
movement. How, what is your general
response been to that? Like, have you been
rolling with the punches with it? Or has it
been something that's kind of brought new, new
life to you in certain ways?
Yeah, it's a great question. Always awesome to
hear, you know, the perspectives elsewhere,
because I have it in my head, but it's
good to kind of get feedback too. So for me,
I guess the thing that some people close to
me knew was that I'd actually always started
the neural realm as something that I had
planned to step away from, that like I was
trying to basically seed a leak, you know,
I haven't grabbed my brain data on
Bitcoin. And like the idea is, you know,
that like I wanted to have it grow into
something that could be larger than than
just me. And so when blob just kind of
took off, I was like, wow, you know, this
is this is that right, like this is
organically this thing where people are
just going crazy with this energy and
are already making it into their own
thing. And so rather than trying to, you
know, you can't you can't manipulate
things into memes, right? You cannot
make forced culture. That's just not how
it works. Anyone who's, you know, been
in, you know, an artist or who has been
kind of plugged in, and anything
authentically, you cannot mold things
into the way you want them to, you just
have to kind of put your love and
energy into the world. And sometimes
when something hits, you have to be
aware of it. So for me, it just was
extremely obvious that there was
something here that we had struck with
blob. And the thing that connected it
for me was actually like I was sitting
there, you know, I have this huge
mural that I painted of this of
this character Moki, which is, you
know, like this fun, swirly ghost
dude that I, you know, that is the
character that's kind of like the
spirit of, you know, my late brother
in this fun way that, you know, just
is like, yeah, a bunch of stories
kind of go through that. And I was
sitting there when all this was
going down and wasn't able to do
them in and I, you know, I'm not
fortunately, I'm not a person that
like, gets too down very often. But
like that night, I was just not
like, I just felt off, you know,
like the kind of stress I felt in
medicine when it wasn't like a good
treatment for people. And it just
was a weird feeling. And that's
where blob actually emerged. I just
was kind of sitting there with
Grant, a good friend who's with
Peach. And we were just talking and
somehow, like I was like, man,
people, this blob thing is like
taking off and then just like, hit
the back of my mind. I'm like,
wait a second, like, it's not
all our we're all blobs, right?
We're all blobs in the universe.
Blob is this kind of funny thing
that's everywhere. So to me, it's
actually like, I can't do
anything if it doesn't actually
feel meaningful in a deeper way.
I just I lose interest very
actually started as like a holy
shit, like, wait a second, like
presenting this thing to me
where it was just like the blob
what it always about was about.
And then it was like, geez, well,
like, that's how I really have
been thinking about it that like
it's this opportunity now to
explore like what is the thing,
you know, that is the genesis for
like all the stuff that went
into making my masks in kind of
like a more coherent way. I
didn't know how to exactly
self actualization and stuff
visually, you know, kind of in a
more effective way. And that's
kind of where I came up with the
masks. And so when Blob came
out, it was like, geez, like,
okay, this is that like, it
just that was really obvious to
me. So it's been pretty cool.
I think it's it started for me
brain reality kind of angle.
And then it was like, well,
the community is really like going
bonkers with this. So like, this
is, this is kind of cool way to
make it, you know, real. So
so before I throw it over to
flame, because I'm sure I know
that flame knows this community
inside and out and is very much
supplanted himself as like a
central blob within the blob
verse, if you will, I do want to
ask one kind of aside question.
When you look at what the
community has already produced,
what are you immediately feeling
right now? Like what taught me
through what goes through your
mind when you see all of a
themselves, those those boom
eyes coming out of Shiba Inu's
and different planets and stuff
like how do you receive that?
It's a beautiful question. I
mean, with great blob comes
great blob responsibility, I
Yeah, thanks. Thanks, flame
blob. Um, yeah, man, you're my
you're like, I know in those
key and peel where where he is
translator for Obama, flame
brought blob is my like blob
translator, who will take
anything blob it out. So, um,
but in all seriousness, you
know, it's been an amazing
gift to me, like, and, you
know, I'm a very gracious
person, I kind of, you know,
what, like what, what's kind
of, you know, like, yeah, be
real about what's hard, but
kind of see where there are
opportunities. And so for me,
blob, like just seeing the
energy of it was always like,
extraordinary and is really
special. Um, you know, it
also is one of the things
that it, you know, I don't
know, like it's always I've
never truly been a part of
something that, that like,
just kind of went totally
viral like this. And so now
it's like, you know, I've
been, I've been experimenting
trying, you know, my best to
iterate on like how to take
something now that is, is
truly with the community by
the community and for the
community. We did a lot of
open edition collections,
inscribe. We've, you know,
blob, um, I mean, you know,
birthday, as I mentioned,
literally sleeping at the
gym, just really, you know,
dial everything together to
that. So I think, um, you
mask was it could be a part
of every other community,
community energy into all
they're literally, they're
hilarious, incredible way.
where I'm at just kind of
a conduit for all of this
more focused around like,
received, you know, cause
has been 2d. So it's like,
it's just been, you know,
for Bitcoin to like seeing
you want to tap into right
now. Well, I just want to
People are really getting
steak. It's got blob eyes.
It's looking pretty good.
creative energy is really
flowing. And I think that's
one of my favorite things
the original blob artwork,
taking the blob train and,
uh, the best part about it
that it's an extension of
Francisco, you know, like
it's just taking the blob.
and, and, and what better
like it can grow. It can,
cool stuff, uh, and bring
of the blobs. Um, and, uh,
getting too silly, I think
beautiful art, like a lot
know, it's getting pretty
cool art collective that's
brought forward, you know,
connection that it has to
Bitcoin and ordinals. It's
going to ask Nero, sorry,
event over the weekend go?
tuned into the space that
event. So how was it, um,
watching Melissa air paint
with a leaf blower live at
the cycle punk labs? Yeah.
sharing all that man flame
of this is really, really
and, um, you know, really
try to like uplift others.
incredibly important. And
what is, is this is like,
gallery, but like there's,
work is just so powerful.
some are large. Um, and it
Melissa uses a leaf blower
actually make the pieces.
her for that have been so
awesome about just a vibing.
like most fun experiences
good vibrations, and there's
cool about using a leaf blower
to move paint around on a
canvas. It just, it feels
get a canvas and actually do
weight of the leaf blower
spiritual, like fun, wild
insane, but like I want to
was, you know, I think it
was really cool. It was a
those opportunities where
Star Wars, I think it was
then the following night.
was really awesome. That's
were lucky enough to hear
stuff. And so like, that's
really, you know, bringing
chief and Peach, like all
these people are involved.
And, you know, for people
who weren't able to be in
that mask that Lynn made.
Violetta. I mean, this is
why you've got to show up
especially awesome because
it was there and because of
continuation of that, like
know, I really appreciate
just jump in really quick
because I didn't want to,
Bay Area, you know, like,
events and to be on panels
definitely something really
down in the Bay. You know,
I think we're, we're kind
cypherpunk builder hacky vibe
everything we do, whether
there's some, some acts of
know, like making masks or
actually, Aaron and I had
been plotting to, to scan
Casey's brain for a while.
event we did in November.
kind of be this, like doing
these crazy events into, I
mean, sure, it was definitely
full-blown art gallery to
It's, it's, it's incredible.
point is like, it's really,
we've just been this place
just genuinely and Melissa
what we're trying to do is
we're trying to be a place
and Raph were like coding
You know, like we were just
And that's the kind of vibe
something else you want to do.
Like, I just believe that,
you know, the goal of a great
and like be a place where
And Deasy still, you know,
how it works out of there.
But it's there's this vibe
like whatever, if there's
if you're anything ranging
if you're kind of tackling
like Melissa's leaf blowers
or Eloc has this great quote
You just got to find your medium.
think it's like real yet.
That is the kind of stuff
I can't tell you how insane
a terminal like a full on
You know, people are like,
this is the dumbest thing.
Or when I try to put my brain
It just we've always done stuff
than you could ever predict.
in our community say that
and I hope if we achieve anything,
Don't be like intimidated
to respond to all my DMS,
Really big effort to do that.
And we were kind of growing
And so if you're like a person
like filter some of that,
you know, that's kind of what
we're looking for at this point
to help get other people's
you know, just kind of build
it's a really beautiful thing
that you guys have building right now.
And I feel like it's still very much
you know, healthy infant.
So I applaud what you guys are doing.
a great community to be a part of.
To those of you in the audience
in learning more about Blob,
of course, feel free to come up
You can certainly direct questions
but I know that you've got to run Neuro.
I just really appreciate you
taking the time to come up
and join us for a little bit
a little bit more of your story
So I just want to give you
that little bit of praise
Yeah, I'll hang around listening,
but I'll go ahead and drop down
and thanks everybody else
for giving me a chance to do that.
And yeah, keep on the great work
And again, just for those of you
that are in the audience,
if you want a shot at getting
make sure you follow the instructions
that are pinned to the top
I went ahead and gave you
exactly what you need to do
for all the allow list spots
that we have going on tonight.
We're going to be doling those out
but if you want to be eligible,
you got to follow the steps.
So that takes us through Blob.
about the story we've told?
Do you think we've represented it
fairly well in a short amount of time?
comes great rib blob stability.
I don't know if that should be
but I had to give it a try.
we're only at the blob getting.
a great job of covering it,
hero neuro tell these stories
he's such a mild mannered dude,
he's really very well rounded
and such a great, you know,
element, a great human being
to be such a cool part of this space,
him and everybody that runs with him.
So I think it's definitely worth,
you know, keeping your eyes on Blob
and keeping eyes on Blob.
I want to give one quick reminder
of like a breaking news alert
as we move into our next interview.
The Trezor X account has apparently
So please steer clear of that
while they get their shit under control.
Last thing that I want to see
is anybody get compromised.
It's a very, very tenuous time in crypto.
You know, the scammers are back out
So please protection neck.
Don't go falling into malicious links.
I would just say as a general rule,
don't follow Ledger or Trezor or Metamask.
Don't pay attention to any of it on Twitter,
especially if you can just try to reach out
to the actual people involved,
because I don't know if you guys
have ever played this game,
but if you just tweet out Metamask,
you'll get a bunch of spam, scam responses.
Like nothing like getting in,
nothing will get you in trouble,
like messing around with the words
Trezor, Ledger or Metamask on Twitter.
So just avoid it at all costs.
Yeah. And with that said,
like also try not to say it too much in spaces.
You never know when the like listening AIs
are going to really catch up
and definitively screw you.
So it's like it's like Voldemort.
Basically, I was about to say flame.
Let's let this let this be the last time
we ever say those words three times in a row.
I think we can leave the breaking news there
and carry this show a little bit forward
just to again double check before I do so.
Big God, Lynn, are you guys good
We're going to be running this
probably for about one more hour left.
I saw a heart out of you.
Big God, Lynn, are you guys good
for the full time or would you guys
like to be moved up in the order,
And I think Big God has a separate
Well, look, we should be able to get
through everything before then.
I wanted to make sure the last 10 or so
minutes it would be after 830.
We mostly drop talk so we can go
ahead and get things, you know,
maybe a little bit more brief than
the last one because there's not
a lot known right now about the
But if there is one thing that I
do know is that the people behind
it are really, really incredible
and they have connections and a
direction and a vision that truly
is second to none in this space.
As much as I love a lot of the
galleries and the art houses that
have start to pop up around
Bitcoin in particular, I think
there's a lot to be said for, you
know, the role that galleries and
I've been known to be a critic of
it at the current state of things.
But I believe that Bitcoin Art
House is really about to push
So for those of you that are not
familiar with him, I encourage you
Big God is a notable founder in
He has founded both quadrillion
art and the Bitcoin Art House.
Now he is a voice that is
constantly being heard on spaces,
but also at a lot of these big pop
His co-founder is in charge of all
things creative at Bitcoin Art
And we were thrilled to have them
both with us to talk a little bit
more about what their vision is
for Bitcoin Art House, but also
to tell us a little bit more
about their Genesis drop up
coming with Rare Skrilla.
So here to talk to us a little
bit more about the Bitcoin Art
House is Lin and Big God.
Guys, welcome to color commentary.
Yeah, no, I love exactly where
Nero came from with everything.
He shares a lot of the similar
sentiment that we have in the
space and what the Bitcoin Art
House, what we call the BAH
kind of stands for and tries
to do in the space as well,
to sort of uplift artists and
allow sort of them to say
exactly what they want to say,
really not so much within the
frameworks that we've designed
within Web3 already and sort of
that we've seen in this past
cycle, but sort of start to
break out of it and think of
things a little bit differently
opportunity for us to do this.
And it's been really exciting
and I think we've got a lot
within kind of our scope that
we're working on right now.
But yeah, I would love to talk
BG, I don't know if you want
Yeah, I just wanted to say
thanks to Stephen for having
RareSkrilla's mom, who I guess
is in the audience listening.
Well, I love that mom Skrilla
That makes me very, very happy.
It's always good to have family
I think there have been two
or three times my dad has just
kind of like made a covert
appearance in the audience out
It just always brings a smile
But it's always nice to have
So that's that's what you
But guys, talk to me first
and foremost about what the
Bitcoin Art House and where
visions for what's possible.
Yeah, I I would say I would
say first off, I think the
sort of like CEO CEO role
really stays or sort of with
I think myself right now.
behind the scenes like it's
art and culture to Bitcoin.
That's sort of the very basics,
in, you know, things that
And so I think where we're
a really just interesting project
as time progresses, I think,
like as we've had a number
of different sort of calls
just in this space generally,
you know, what I think the ones
and then get in a little bit
are, maybe the framework.
But it's a time capsule, right,
in sort of seeing what artists
take on identity over time
that I think could be really
is that is the core mission
And I think that that is,
Lynn and I as well, like, you know,
make any money, you know, doing this.
I think it's just sort of
very much mission driven right now.
And we absolutely love what we're doing.
especially working with Skrilla first
on the ones has been really a blessing.
we could have really asked for,
you know, I think really a better,
you know, person, you know,
artist partner really in this.
a couple points here too.
and he's also customer service.
So if you have any issues with us,
direct them to Big God, please.
So, like, I actually don't think
what the ones are publicly.
I think the more we do it,
the more kind of problems
But I think we're at that point
where we're ready to share
So I think just more generally,
you know, just for just to give everybody
really exactly what the ones are
are one hundred one of ones
and really sort of what it is
meant to be is this representation
Which is like we've normalized as the PFP
and that's what we call it.
And going to different artists
over time to do one hundred
one of one PFP-able kind of pieces
and sort of their take on the
digital representation of self
and sort of encapsulate that
into this collection of ones,
you know, and they're all going to be ones.
And the first ones are Skrilos ones.
They're serialized zero through ninety-nine.
The next artist is going to be
one hundred through one ninety-nine,
The idea is that this collection is around forever
and that we continue to build on this
what the PFP can be in the eyes
You know, we've seen this last cycle,
you know, starting in 2021.
A lot of artists kind of come onto the scene
and do amazing one-of-one work
but also try to fit their work into
and really what that model looked like
And we've seen there's a lot of great things
procedurally generating a whole bunch of PFPs.
But there's like, it's limiting.
and community and team colors
and really sort of this is who I am
and this is the group of people
And I think that's great.
But I also think there's like a space
for one-of-one artists and more expressive people
to not really want to express themselves
as, you know, a member of a group of people
but more so as an individual
and having their PFP represent themselves
So we figured there was nobody better to do that
than sort of like the contemporary figurative
And Skrilla was a really, really, you know,
like we started working on this collection a year ago
and we were kind of trying to figure out
like who's going to be the first artist
and like I could have been the first artist.
I mean, I remember BG just kind of pointing the finger
at me and being like, yo, you do them.
You do a hundred one-of-ones.
like we got to build this thing out
and I do figurative work,
but I'm not as established and da-da-da.
And this is again, like March or April of last year,
but kind of thinking, we were like, all right,
well, there's a couple dozen artists on Bitcoin.
We figured, you know, we'd find one
or think of one that would have like a really,
really great sort of take on the self
and the culture and all of these things
and also be like kind of an OG
having built on Bitcoin before
and we DM them and we're like, dude,
what do you think about this framework
called the ones where, you know,
we go to different artists over time
and build out the PFP and do it in ways
that they can never do before
and scale over time, not necessarily,
you know, with a 10K drop
and then have to dilute that or something,
you know, like we just slowly
and steadily build this out over,
you know, a hundred years or so.
I think it would take us eight and a half years
or something every month to get to a 10K.
So, yeah, we plan on being here
and the art being here for a really long time.
Skrilla was a perfect person
to sort of start this with
just because of his provenance in the space
and being an OG, rare Pepe artist
and assisting in the launch of Fake Rares
and just sort of really building
what culture is here on Bitcoin
and using this native internet language
to explain, I don't know,
the human experience and who we are,
I am Pepe, you are Pepe, right?
And like, we're all sort of, yeah,
kind of this caricature of the culture
in our unique way and that's sort of like memes, right?
So, yeah, no, it's just like,
if you guys have had a chance to see his ones,
if you want to like pin the collection
or something to the space,
Skrilla did an amazing job.
The one of ones are ridiculous.
There's so many references to Bitcoin
and all of these really interesting things.
Yeah, please do pin those to the top.
this being an art space itself, right?
Color commentary is doing exclusively
an art focus very intentionally.
I do everything that I can
to make sure that we pin up the right stuff
to the top to show and showcase
not just the story through words
but also the story through visuals.
So please, if you do have specific ones
that you want up top, go for it.
I would love to have them up there.
I do want to direct another question.
It's probably most to you, Lynn.
I'm really curious by the decision
that you made to kind of put all of it
under one big banner of the ones, right?
Because obviously there is something
to what you guys are approaching here
with almost a more nuanced take on portraiture.
But why is it that you want to put
all of these underneath one collection
as opposed to breaking it out
into each artist's individual collections?
that Bitcoin's provenance works
call it the financial efficiency on chain
or is there something more to it?
Yeah, that's a really good question, actually.
It kind of ties into one of the big,
maybe concerns we get about this framework,
which is the lack of cohesion, right?
There's no thematic ties between the first ones
and the second ones and the third ones
and the 25th ones and so on.
So why put them under the same collection?
And I think the idea for us was that,
kind of like BitGod was saying,
that it's the lineage, right?
It's a timeline of what the representation
of digital self looks like
and what it looked like at a certain time.
Because I think you look back at the first ones
and it's like, this is where we began.
This is where Bitcoin began.
This is what mimetic culture was doing
and meme coins and really sort of the zeitgeist.
What did that look like and what did that feel like
and what was the aesthetic?
And then maybe fast forward eight years
that the contemporary figurative artist is doing,
I don't know, skins of avatars that are rigged
and metaverse compatible, I have no idea.
The idea is that this collection and the one
sort of encapsulate that over time
and sort of explore what that looks like
in one lineage, which ties all the artists together
because they did something very interesting,
which was sort of tackle that concept 100 times,
which is a really, really hard thing to do.
If you guys are artists and have done art
and especially figurative work,
coming up with a hundred different one of ones
that you feel comfortable publishing,
that you also feel like represents what you want to say
under this body of work is like a crazy lift.
So it's kind of like this hazing thing,
but it's almost a kind of a committing
to saying this thing within this framework.
And it's really interesting.
We wanted to give artists sort of the challenge of doing this
and a lot of them are really up for it
because they're artists and they want to do art.
That's what they came to the space to do.
And a lot of the times we get caught up
in some of the other frameworks that Web3
is sort of designed for artists to do.
But we found that artists really, really like this
and gotten a lot of direct feedback
that it's kind of a compelling goal
to produce 100 one-of-one PFPs.
But yeah, I think to answer your question a little bit more,
the parent for this collection,
it actually displays each artist gets to do
their sort of interpretation of the BA logo
and re-inscribe that on the parent sat.
And when you re-inscribe it,
it pulls in a shout out ELOC and NeuroRealm
for sort of the inspiration on that
with the Rugme collection.
So the idea is that you pull in the metadata
from the last sort of re-inscription.
So each artist will be able to update the parent, basically,
And sort of like have that piece represent
the whole collection for that period of time.
But yeah, I guess to answer your question more concretely,
yeah, it's to document the lineage, really.
It's not to be a cohesive collection
or it's not really to also separate them.
I think it's a joint effort of representation of self
in a kind of a unique context, if that makes sense.
No, it definitely makes sense.
I think it's a really interesting idea that you're showing it.
I mean, look, we get all hot and bothered in this space
about provenance and immutability
and looking at things from a timeline perspective.
I mean, God help me from having to talk
about the novelty of first again.
But there is something to the concept of order, right?
So getting the chance to showcase like, okay,
what came before this next wave of ones
is actually a pretty compelling story to be telling.
I think it's a really interesting concept.
Yeah, sorry, not to interrupt you.
But there's one last thing that I think is really interesting
with it is that like, as artists do ones over time,
we spoke to a, you know, I won't name drop or anything,
but like just an artist that does collage work.
And we were talking about having them do,
if they did like the 20th ones, right,
that they actually composed their ones from all previous ones, right?
Maybe their first serialized one is a combination
of the previous 19 first ones from each artist, right?
And they cut them up and sort of piece them together,
a left eye and a right eye and a mouth
and all of these unique things, right?
So like, there's cohesion within the collection,
but what it kind of is going to look like
and how different artists inherit the challenge
may have some type of meta
where it comes directly from the artist.
It's sort of loosely defined how they fit together,
which is going to be super interesting
to see how that plays out.
and the type of curatorial mind that I have,
it's worth noting that the second that you said collage artist,
I immediately started going through my Rolodex
and my brain just being like, okay, let's play the game.
Who is it that they're talking to?
I'm not going to ask you to tell me any names
because I know that you guys are already trying to stay guarded
on certain other things and I'm trying to toe that line.
But, Big God, in the world of things that you can tell us,
how is it that somebody can collect a piece from the ones?
Yeah, so I think, I think Lightwin stated to this
as one of the first parts of his response.
I think as we've gotten more and more public
about what this is, of course, the artists,
it's sort of caused more problems for us
in the sense that there's only a hundred pieces
and a thousand plus or whatever the real number is,
of course, people that would want them
or sort of want to be a part of this.
And so I think sort of the answer to that question
is we wanted to treat this really like,
or sort of take, of course, this sort of high art approach,
which involves a lot of curating from, of course, both sides,
right, both on the artist side, but also on the collector side.
And so what we've done really is for this is really that,
is the high art approach of curating the collectors here.
And so what we've done is not only, of course,
30 plus probably calls on the artist side
for curating potentially in whatever is next,
but also a hundred plus calls on the collector side, right,
to curate the 100 or so collectors as a part of the first ones.
And to that, though, Skrilla had a large say in that, right?
We went to him and wanted to, of course, have people
that we knew that would, of course, appreciate or love this work,
but also many of Skrilla's past collectors
that have held his work for a long, long time.
And so he had a large say, and I think any other artist
we work with in the future will have a large say in that as well.
And we want to eventually go to bat for many of these collectors.
As time progresses and we start to talk to these other artists,
X sort of person potentially should be a part of the next ones
But again, like Skrilla had a large say in this.
We wanted to make sure that his collector base
had a chance to, of course, have some of this amazing collection,
but also write a combination of ordinal OGs,
you know, and Ethan of tea collectors,
builders, ordinal builders, just a really large combination
And I think it's actually interesting.
We had an interesting question, I think, from the past weeks
as we closed up those sort of collector calls to the question
of like, you know, what's going to happen with this group
of amazing people or collectors?
And I think the answer to that question is I'm not really sure.
I think the answer was not really sure,
but you have just really smart minds in, you know,
a singular place that have a really high appreciation for,
you know, art as well as art on Bitcoin.
I think what like Lynn saying, like we're not really sure
what's going to come of this over time,
but I think it's really interesting to think about.
As well as, I think, something that both Lynn and I
I think both him and I have worked really hard
at this whole really I think system.
And I think as it, of course, is going more and more live now,
it's quite interesting to see some of the feedback,
get other people's thoughts, of course, validate,
I think, some of the idea.
I remember going to some of the artists as well.
Soon thereafter, you saw like rip cash
and other amazing artists launch
and just see if our idea was sort of, I guess,
stupid or maybe somewhat smart.
And luckily, a lot of artists are really interested
They're up for the challenge, which 100 board of ones
I think that's a longer way to answer your question,
but yeah, maybe Lynn has some more thoughts there as well.
Yeah, Lynn, do you have anything to add on that one?
It's basically about like, how do you get access to the ones?
So, I mean, you can in the future, right?
If you're interested in collecting the ones,
we have filled up sort of all of the collectors
for this potential first batch.
But you can DM Big God, feel free.
Even if you just want to chat, just feel free to DM him.
Just let those babies rip.
Yeah, no, honestly, if you guys would love to be part
of something that we're building with the ones,
if that's collecting or being an artist,
feel free to reach out to either one of us.
We're open to having these discussions.
But yeah, no, we were very, very particular about how we chose
the collectors for these first ones.
And it's not like, trust me, we understand,
it's not a great approach to go onto a space to be like,
But we think it's like, and we've been very careful
That's one of the reasons we don't talk about it as much.
But we do think it's interesting discourse for the space,
where the PFP landscape is going,
how art on Bitcoin is sort of being approached.
And it's really great to see this really similar ethos
from a lot of the builders in the space.
It's exactly what Nuro was saying.
You're seeing the same patterns of elevating other people,
or you see a lot of the thematics of anti-utility
or just counterculture like pups and OMB.
And it's just interesting to see where art is going in the space
and kind of taking this high art approach to things.
There's this latency, right?
It's been a year since we launched Ordinals.
But you need to sort of let the ideas marinate,
let the protocol build out and see kind of what comes out of it.
I think if we're going to have those really high quality ideas,
they're going to take a little bit of time.
And that's sort of what we worked on.
It took Skrilla five-ish months to complete his ones.
And certain artists that we've talked to were like,
take two years to do your ones if you want to.
This is a compelling narrative,
a compelling thing for you to fit your work within
and something you want to do.
We're not going to pressure you.
It's just not how you get the best art out of artists, right?
Yeah, no, it's just interesting to see the narrative
and the discourse around what art looks like on Bitcoin
and taking a high art approach to the PFP.
That's kind of what we've done.
But yeah, that also comes with it being kind of hard to collect again.
But yeah, no, definitely reach out to us if you guys are interested.
Yeah, I'll definitely be dropping my Ordinals address on Bitcoin's DMs later.
But that's beside the point.
The thing that I did want to get to,
because again, you've already addressed the collector side,
and you've addressed a good portion of what it looks like
But I'm curious for the artist's sake, right?
Because this space in particular, we've had on curators,
we've had collectors, we've had artists and now gallerists.
I'm curious what it looks like for your preferred intake
if an artist is interested in working with you guys on a ones drop
or if it's something else that they'd like to drop through you guys.
What is your, I guess, preferred path forward?
Would you like them to be reaching out via DMs,
be sending certain material over?
What's the typical path for an artist?
Yeah, that's a good question.
We don't really have that.
Yeah, just like a DME big guy, dude.
Just if you've got anything, just go right to customer service with it.
I was just going to say, really, I think both Lynn and I are on top of,
we're sort of everywhere I think in this space.
Also on the artist side, I think the connections obviously run deep
both on the collectors as well as artist side.
And so it is really like DME, it is really that.
Me being Gen Z, I think Lynn being a little bit older,
we're not big email people, so it is really just like DMS.
But also, typically if you know one of us,
you probably have our Discord, you probably have a Telegram,
but we're incredibly active on all of those
and making sure that we're constantly talking to collectors,
Dgens, artists, trying to stay on top of all that.
But I'll let Lynn, I think, maybe fully respond.
No, that was it, just the MBG.
I think you guys should set up like a hotline.
Yeah, let's just do that.
Let's just set up a number, I'll get a fake number or something.
And people can describe their artwork
and we can close our eyes and imagine,
this is great, I like this, this is fun.
Yeah, I think also just Stephen, I think to the question,
we've had discussions with so many different artists
and many of those artists are also not focused on figurative works,
which is what the ones is really focused on.
And so some amazing generative artists,
others we've had contact or we've had calls with,
and those are, hey, maybe you could be interested in the ones,
but also just we would love to be a resource, right?
I think like NeuroRealm, all of that, that's super cheap,
xNeuro or Cypher1Glabs do,
it's really just trying to be a resource
because it is still a bit difficult for, I think,
artists to get involved in Ordinals, right?
There's a couple of art focused platforms,
but to get your artwork inscribed and the file size
and do you use recursion or not, it's still pretty difficult.
And so I think, again, yeah, DME,
we try and be a resource as much as possible,
we've hopped on calls, we answer in DMs,
we can do voice messages, I don't know,
we try and do as much as we can
with artists generally in this space.
So one last question for you,
and I do wanna toss it to Flame
and see if he's got any other questions for you
before we move things forward.
But in the interest of, I guess,
giving an artist who is not yet on Bitcoin
an idea of why they should be, right?
Give us a little bit of your angle on why Bitcoin,
but also the current state of things within Bitcoin art,
because I do think that is something
that from your perspectives there is
some probably very unique takeaways to be had.
Yeah, this is the question that gets me to talk
for 25 minutes, but I'm gonna keep it under one, ready?
Bitcoin is the most immutable,
decentralized, valuable database known to man, right?
You know, if you think about art, right,
things that are worth preserving,
that are of cultural significance,
you put them in things like museums, right,
because they're protected and there's one instance
of this thing normally they're physical, right?
And yeah, I think the problem with that
is that even the Mona Lisa has a single point of failure,
the Louvre can burn down and then it's gone,
A lot of art is sort of subject to iconoclism
and the destruction of culture
and sort of things over time,
over the course of hundreds of years, right,
Bitcoin in our case is the safest place
you can store digital assets, right?
And this is one of the first things that I learned about
when I came across Ordinals in January of last year,
which was after binging a lot of the hell monies,
was understanding that, oh, wow,
this is not just like an opportunity to be early
to being an artist, this is not gonna take a minute.
You know, this is inscribing your work
on the digital pyramids, right?
This is the opportunity to preserve your work forever.
And this is sort of the clear cut place
for digital assets to be stored and to be safe
and be preserved for all of time.
You know, you don't have to use, you know,
Jim Cramer sats or whatever it is, you know,
You don't have to use these native things
that are like, that we have available to us.
You can, to elevate your work, it's what we did with the ones,
like serial number zeros on an uncommon,
serial number 99s on a black, you know,
like there's a Hal Finney piece that's on block 48.
You know, there's just, there's interesting things
that like a palindrome piece on a symmetrical piece,
like there's these things that we did
that were very intentional.
But yeah, no, the sort of,
the pitch to any other artist that's considering Bitcoin
is just preserve your work forever.
Really, that's it. It's that simple.
And, you know, that, if you just simply look at Bitcoin as a database,
it is just the most redundant database there is.
And it's also free storage, which is kind of cool,
if you think about it, you know,
because you don't have to pay to host things
on servers and stuff forever or buy jump drives
and, you know, put your family photos and stuff on them.
Just put it on Bitcoin. It just stays there forever.
So, you know, that's the really compelling case
for artists and digital art, you know,
the most valuable resources, digital assets,
digital, you know, things belong on Bitcoin.
Yeah, I happen to be very much so with you
and your explanation of it.
And while it was not a minute,
I'm not going to hold it against you
because, frankly, Landry, that's,
there's nothing to apologize for.
That is one of those conversations
that really can take up an entire space.
And I would love to, you know, connect with you offline
and just wax poetic on that one
and see, you know, where we find ourselves after a beer or two.
But just to, again, toss it over to Flame.
Flame, what sort of questions do you have
for Big God and Lynn on Bitcoin Art House?
First of all, I need to, like, re-center
because the term waxing sent me
in a completely different direction,
and I don't want to continue going there.
But what I do want to say is that, you know,
I can't tell you how much I respect everything
that you all have just said,
except for the fact that I'm not one of the 100s.
You guys are jerks, and I'm trying to keep my language clean
because I know Skrilla's mom is in the audience.
That being said, I'm totally happy to be a jerk
in the audience because, you know,
I'm really happy for the 100 people
that were very carefully curated and selected for this
because this is exactly, you know,
the kind of thing I want to see happening on Bitcoin.
You know, we use the word intentional a lot
in this space in general.
I hear it even more and more when dealing with ordinals.
You know, Casey was incredibly intentional
And also very intentional in creating rooms, you know?
And if you listen to Hell Money podcast,
you can really get to the heart of Casey's intentions,
and they are, if you love Bitcoin, very, very good.
And Erin is also a rock star in her own right.
You know, let's not forget that.
But, you know, the fact that you're leading
with Rare Skrilla, who's not just an incredible artist,
incredible DJ, musician, really cool human being, you know?
You're kicking it off with a bang, you know?
Rare Pepe's were no joke.
And you're starting off by paying respect
to the history of art on Bitcoin
with someone who fully respects art on Bitcoin
and is also rewarding his long-term holders, you know,
people who have been hodling his art for this long.
Like, they absolutely deserve to be part of the 100.
And I'm sure every other person that's on that list does as well.
So as much FOMO as I'm feeling right now,
I definitely, you know, can't feel left out
when the people who are being brought in
are all the right people, you know?
And the fact that there's an opportunity
for the rest of us to hopefully, you know,
collect some of these at some point, also really special.
I don't want to, like, monologue on this,
but this is the first time I'm getting, like,
the full download on this.
And so I'm super, super excited because it's nice to hear people
trying to thoughtfully change the narrative
and help it evolve that's been centered around,
you know, like you said, this whole 10K PFP narrative,
which has obviously gotten very, very worn.
And I don't think it's wrong to try to do that currently
or in the future, but it can't be the only track, obviously.
And it certainly can't be a main point of focus on Bitcoin
because it's very expensive to inscribe a 10K collection.
And there should really be a reason for that, right?
Why do we need 10,000 of anything?
There really should be a good reason for it
other than just make money number go up.
And I love that you guys are getting away from that.
But I also just fully respect that you're giving artists
time, the need to create whatever they want
under whatever circumstances they want.
You're helping people, you're helping onboard more artists
into the space and doing it in a way that, like,
I'm so intrigued by what artists are going to produce
under this set of circumstances and guidelines and support,
So I don't know that I have a whole lot of questions
other than when, Gibb, that's not a question.
And thank you, also not a question,
but I really do respect you guys fully for this.
I can't wait to find out who the next artists are
after Rare Squirrel, but more importantly,
let's just see how this thing rolls out
And even if we don't get to collect,
celebrate the hell out of it.
Because that's what we're here to do.
That's what makes ordinals so special.
That's what makes digital art on the blockchain
so special, but especially on Bitcoin.
You know, it really does tie into Satoshi's vision.
I truly believe that, you know?
And I just think, like, if you're a Maxine,
You're just not listening to the right people.
This is a good place to start.
If you haven't gotten it up to this point,
pay attention to what these guys are doing,
because this is really, like, the purest,
most well-thought-out, developed ordinals project,
one of them anyway, no shade or nothing
against everybody who's been kicking ass so far.
But this is really taking it up a step,
you know, like, or two or three.
And so, you know, I wasn't planning on, like,
doing a whole monologue about this,
Look, I thought it was a great TED Talk, dude.
Dave, look, we appreciate that.
Appreciate that, for sure.
Look, don't feel too bad.
You know, we're probably,
Bika's probably going to get a DM
from Skrilla's mom here shortly, like,
yo, why am I not on the list?
So, look, closer people got cut out, Flame.
I don't need to be special.
I just need to see you guys continue to kick ass,
and that's what you're doing, so it's all good.
Well, Flame, I think, I don't know, man,
after that monologue, I'm pretty sure
we're kicking Lynn off as a collector of the one.
But I think, Flame, to your point of, like,
you know, when, this should be, you know,
we're sort of pushing on this, you know,
really over the next 30 days or so, right?
It's something now that we've been working on
for, I think, over, I guess, over a year now,
you know, with, you know, some things in there.
But also, you know, we've curated the 100 sort of collectors,
but, of course, with that, there might be,
in that group, the way the sort of mint goes,
which I don't think we've talked about yet,
and I don't think we're going to get into today,
but there may be, of course, some part of that
sort of 100 or those 100 collectors
that, by the end of the sort of mint,
are not necessarily sort of happy
with some of the pieces remaining
or, you know, they end up not showing up
for whatever reason, and so we are planning
on curating a, you know, small sort of overflow,
I guess, list, is what we're calling it,
for, you know, in the instance that that does happen,
and some pieces are, you know, are sort of left there.
So that is something that's certainly a possibility,
and, you know, just wanted to sort of mention that to you,
Flayman, and I think I really do appreciate your,
I'm sure Lynn really appreciates that.
Rare Skrilla is mom in the audience.
You know, I think everyone has really tried
to take that approach, and hopefully, you know,
I think more people appreciate that over time as well.
Well, it's easy to say kind things
about people who are putting in the work
and doing it right, in my opinion.
I'm not just up here one-riding.
You know, I mean everything I say,
and that goes for any time I get excited
Like, I'm saying it because I mean it.
It's because I care about this space so much,
because of what it's done for my own personal life.
The only questions I have for you guys right now are just,
you know, what can people do to help support the project
in the meantime, and what are some other projects
that you guys are, you know, vibing with right now
that you really feel like are nailing, you know,
the culture and paying respect to ordinals
and paying respect to Bitcoin in the way
that you like to see it happen.
This is a really good question.
What was the first part of the question?
Oh, just like how can people support it?
Yeah, how can people support it?
Just like we want the narrative of art on Bitcoin
I think that's the big thing.
You know, it's what we're doing.
It's what we're throwing all of our chips at.
It's the thesis that's sort of built under the bar
and exactly what we're trying to do.
If that thesis doesn't play out, you know,
we know there's going to be really high fee rates soon
because of shit coins on Bitcoin, which is fun and great.
That's a whole, you know, side of things.
But, you know, it really constricts the art
and the ability for artists to be able to, you know,
produce things and preserve them on Bitcoin.
I think in the space, like people have really fallen
in love with like the tokenomics side of things.
So it's like, oh, that's great.
There's going to be a limited supply on the art.
And it's going to be really hard to inscribe.
It's like, that's not really a great thing.
You know, we would love more.
We would love for just simply the narrative,
the temperature to sort of shift towards like,
hey, this is a great place to put art.
Like Tezos was like that.
Like it was really, it was a really great spot
to not necessarily do 10 K's and stuff,
but more so just explore and have digital artists like do things.
Like we would love for the narrative to be closer to that.
And yeah, so how do we, you know,
Just push that narrative and just maybe, I don't know,
like and follow our stuff.
It doesn't really mean a whole bunch,
but like it's the support is obviously always appreciated.
And then what was the second part of it?
What projects are you guys?
Like, of course I own a bunch of players disclaimer,
but like what Far is doing,
this is one interesting thing that I've seen on Bitcoin
that he's doing that nobody else is doing.
I just find this narrative really interesting.
Using recursion to sort of produce work.
Early work from earlier on in your career
and then continue to build on it
and then build on it and then build on it
and use your previous work as a seed for future work visually.
That is so cool where, you know,
you go from the early GANs to the infinite IRL
the different iterations and the flares
and different ways of looking at the same piece of work
and your different interpretations on your own work over time.
And like doing that on chain and exploring that on chain.
Really like flares for that reason.
Other things going on with flares as well in the background,
and Far is just a complete genius and super cracked.
Dude's been working for so long on so much.
I don't know how he does it.
I'll probably end up doing that with my work.
You know, I have early photography
and then I have some artwork as well,
but like I would like to do some generative things
where I see those outputs from my early works
and sort of take them and scramble them
and do interesting things visually with them.
That plays into not recursion as like a technical thing,
but like sort of it more conceptually
as iterating on your own work as a different part.
It's almost like creating paints for yourself as an artist,
creating your own palette, right?
And then painting with them.
That's sort of what recursion is.
Well, that's how it's being used in this context.
And I find that really, really interesting.
Well, look, I think that that is a really good answer
because it leaves us a lot to be thinking about
in terms of what we should be looking at,
how we should be challenging our own viewpoint
But I would love to toss it one last time
over to Big God for any final words
on what you guys have going on
or your answer to the question yourself.
But I know that we're coming up
on the top of the half hour
and I just want to make sure
that we're good with everybody's time.
I think some of my favorites as well,
and I wanted to end it on,
not the overall conversation,
but I think one of my favorites that
had the chance of checking out yesterday
But Love with Neuro and Super Chief
is in doing in San Francisco.
I think that's cool, right?
Like that's the first really ordinals gallery
that is, of course, physical, right?
Super Chief just did a more recent exhibition
with Terrell Jones in L.A.
And it was cool to see as well.
A lot of his promo for that exhibition
was the ordinal he did with Kudrillion.
So it was really cool to see that as well.
some of the other things I really love
which is Casey Rodimer's CC0 work.
I love a lot of the rare Pepe guys, right?
Nardo, and of course, Skrilla,
and Tommy, who we got to meet yesterday
at Bitcoin Mag, who also works there.
Like the Bitcoin war bonds piece,
he had a massive physical there.
I think that he's doing something with it.
like I would love something like that.
And then I think really lastly is
they had some really unique artwork
at the Bitcoin Mag headquarters
in Nashville for Free Ross,
which I think is really, really important as well.
And it's something that us as people
in the ordinals ecosystem,
I think really have to take leadership on
as I know the sort of family,
for different reasons need to stay
a little bit more sort of muted.
And so this is more of a sort of community movement,
of course, that needs to happen.
And you see that work and push in OMB.
there's just more push on the movement behind Free Ross.
So that was really cool to see,
and hoping that we can do more to help out Ross and his family.
Well, look, I think that's an awesome thing
And look, for those in the audience
that want to get involved,
they want to support Bitcoin Art House.
Please, please, please keep the conversation going,
jump in the DMs, tag them,
just bombard Bitcoin's DMs in particular.
That's what we need right now.
We need more of that in the space.
But guys, I really do appreciate you guys coming out
and talking to Bitcoin Art House with us.
I'm thrilled for the ones.
I genuinely cannot wait to see more
of what you guys have cooking
and just to support you guys going forward.
Because I think the Bitcoin,
you and I had a great conversation about it.
We're super, super aligned in terms of
what our intentions are in the space.
So I'm all about it, love it.
And again, if you guys want to stick around until the end,
you're more than welcome.
But we are going to head into our last interview for the night.
Guys, just one quick reminder before we go there.
You are, of course, listening to color commentary.
It's a show we typically do for 90 minutes.
Tonight we're going a little bit of a marathon,
And we do it every single Tuesday at 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time
or Eastern Daylight Time.
It doesn't matter which of the middle words you're at.
So please feel free to join us next week.
We've got another fantastic show on deck for you.
But I would love to go to Flame first.
Really quick, I don't want to interrupt your business,
but I just want to give a shout out to
Kath Simard who's in the audience.
If you're not aware, she's releasing a children's book,
and there's art that comes with it.
And it's really, really beautiful and inspiring stuff.
So definitely keep tabs on that.
And also one more piece of alpha.
If you're a deaf beef fan, follow deaf beef,
figure out how to get involved with the next pay phone drop
Basically, he allows you to on-chain,
submit a prompt on Ethereum of like something
that a robotic voice can basically say aloud.
He'll pick up the phone, and he'll play the prompt.
And if he chooses your prompt, he'll turn it into an NFT,
and he'll only charge you for the materials and labor.
And we're talking like $100 USDC
for an original one-of-one deaf beef live performance art piece.
So definitely check that out.
100%, and stick around for the end of the show.
We are going to do a little bit of drop talk,
get a little bit deeper into what's going on this week
with the market and what's coming up
that you can look forward to in terms of mints.
Because, again, I do a weekly digest every single Monday
morning covering all art across Bitcoin, Ethereum, and Solana.
So you can keep updated on what's going on.
And I believe, I know that CAFS was in there.
I believe there was something that I have
from deaf beef in there as well.
So we're going to talk about all that just a little bit longer.
But we've got to move into our final interview for the evening.
Please, please, please, before we get there,
go up to the top, make sure that you follow
the instructions to get in on this giveaway tonight.
We've got a ton of allow us spots that we're allocating
from some fantastic projects who have been gracious enough
to give us the opportunity.
And now, we're going to jump into this fantastic final interview
as we bring in our closer for the evening,
Eric and Kay, or rather just Kay.
Kay is a truly distinguished 3D artist,
often drawing inspiration from Greek and Roman sculptures.
Kay's gained notoriety for how he invokes
heavenly themes in his portfolio of 3D works,
pulling realism and emotion out of the viewer
through the use of surrealist imagery, darkness,
Kay's most recent collection entitled Palms
is a handcrafted collection, pun intended,
of 333 NFTs that focuses on how humidity tells stories,
evokes feelings, and gives context solely through the use
of hand signaling and gestures.
So, without further ado, Kay, welcome to Color Commentary.
How are you doing this evening?
I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me.
Wow, that introduction was epic.
I very much appreciate that.
I don't think I've had such a grandiose introduction
before in a space, so thank you.
Absolutely, man, that's what I do for our guests.
I would have had just as grandiose of an explainer
in an intro for Big God and Lynn
had I known what I could say and what I couldn't say
after our call earlier, but no, man, it's what we do.
But, Kay, tell us a little bit more about you.
Obviously, I can give you a little bit of shine in an intro,
but what more should people know about you?
Absolutely. So, essentially, I am, as you've already said,
I've been doing art full-time for a few years now,
and it all started a few years back
when I was actually a music producer.
What I was doing at the time was creating artworks
and creating music for most artists,
and that was going to be my full-time career.
Art was always in the precedent.
That's something that's stuck with me since childhood,
I wanted to draw. I wanted to animate.
I wanted to do multiple different things,
but music is what spoke to me.
Now, when it came to time for me to actually create
my own music project, of course, you need artwork,
and the artwork I could not afford
was the artwork that I wanted.
It's a bit of a, you know, you always want what you can't really have,
so I decided to start creating my own works.
From that point on, I showed friends and family.
They visualized everything I was doing, and they embraced it,
and then next thing you know, I have people who come in to me
for commissions, and so on and so forth,
and at the time, I was actually not in the best headspace.
I was not in the best living space,
so art was the only thing kind of giving me peace at the moment.
It was somewhere I can actually visualize my struggle,
visualize my pain, and my happiness as well,
and that's exactly how the style that you may be seeing now,
that's how it was cultivated together through, you know,
just extreme emotions just splattering onto a digital canvas,
and I have people telling me all the time how it relates
to their situation, what they have going on,
and yeah, I just want to just create as much as I can
and let people really feel their emotions.
I don't think you should have to be afraid of these emotions.
They should be something that makes us human.
They're something that keeps us sane
and allows us to relate to one another,
and that's essentially what my entire art style is about.
I love it, and honestly, your work does really speak volumes to that.
I've long said, and this is, you know,
more of an agnostic comment looking across all of art,
but as we look at what Web3 has continued to present to us with art,
there's always a question of utility,
and the way that you've expressed, you know,
the way that you want people to interpret and react to your art
speaks to my answer on the utility question in any type of space.
I always lead with the only utility of art is to evoke emotion,
and the fact that you are thinking about that at that really high level
is always something that is going to ring a lot more true
and actually connect better with a collector,
so I applaud you for that.
I think it's a really great thing,
and as you have kind of grown throughout your career,
tell me a little bit about how you came to the style that you've arrived at here,
because it really is, in a lot of ways, its own very unique 3D style in our space.
Thank you. I'm very grateful for you saying that,
and I've gotten that a few times now throughout my career
that my style essentially is something that nobody has really seen before
or I guess, you know, really visualized.
It's a combination of multiple different things.
First and foremost, clearly you see a black space in the background
and it resembles stars, things of that sort.
What I like to kind of use is the space, literal space as my canvas
to kind of paint the imagery and bring forth that emotion
that you don't really see in a space aesthetic.
I guess you can say, you know, there is going to be a sense of wonder
when you get art with space, but what about a sense of love,
a sense of pain, a sense of passion, a sense of depression,
things like that can also be visualized with space as your canvas.
That's where my art style originated from.
Of course, I have influences such as Ajime Soriyama.
I'm sure everybody knows the legendary Ajime Soriyama
for the airbrushed 3D figures that you may see him do.
Huge, huge, you know, figure for me, essentially.
There's YouTube videos online with him going airbrushing for like hours,
just giving you little tidbits of secrets.
Even though my work isn't airbrushing,
I'm still staring at these videos like, wow,
he's bringing out emotion through figures
kind of similar to what I'm doing, so I'm going to pay attention.
But yeah, that's really one of the ways I like to relate my work to other people
is by using space as that canvas, pulling emotions out.
Now, I can say it wasn't always like that.
I can say that my first style was much more only 3D-based,
less two-dimensional, and that was the start of something.
Now, it was still very surreal and very out of the box,
and it still pulled that emotion from me,
but it was not something based in a space aesthetic.
It was the baby steps to get to where we are now.
And I think that's what you have to go through as an artist
to get to something magnificent,
something that you really feel proud of
and want to shout from the rooftops.
You have to go through those stages of,
hmm, this is good, but it's not, you know,
what I really think of my magnum opus, you know?
Once you go through those pieces, you get somewhere that,
okay, now we have something.
Now, we can really pull the masses
and we can really dive deep into the human emotion.
And I feel like that's what I've found with this art style.
So, it's really interesting the way that—
I hear these stories from artists all the time about the progression.
And it's fascinating hearing it from you point blank
as to, you know, what led to where your style is now.
But beyond that, you've really focused up
until this point about the greater form, right?
You know, looking at the broader human form.
Why was it that you were so drawn to do the poems?
I mean, I know that I can re-explain the collection itself,
you know, verbatim, but I'm curious why the transition
went to that type of scale.
So, I'll dig a little back to letting you know that primarily
I've been a one-of-one artist.
I would do many one-of-ones of full figures
and full scenes, full environments.
And, you know, people would gravitate towards those one-of-ones.
And I never consider myself as a collection,
as an artist that's capable of putting out a full collection.
I didn't really see the, I guess, the tangibility
with the emotion within collections.
But then I stood back for a while, you know,
looked at things from the bigger picture.
I looked at other collections.
I looked at artist-driven collections,
not just collections that focus on, you know,
liquidity and utility and things like that.
Of course, that's important, but I stood back
and really took a look at the art form of a collection.
And that's how poems came about.
That's why the decision for me to actually
start a collection started.
I told myself, hey, challenge yourself, you know,
challenge yourself, try something different,
Now, the purpose of it being your hands is,
it traces back to the point of my art.
The entire idea of drawing emotion out of people
and what are we communicating with the majority of the time.
It's our gestures, not just hand gestures.
And the first and easiest iteration I can think of,
for me at least, were our hands, our palms.
And I just told myself, wow, you know,
I'm a very, even as I'm talking right now,
I'm kind of using my hands.
I guess that's an impersonal,
more personal way of saying it,
but it's a way that we communicate
that it's so easy to read.
and everybody will understand it universally.
So that's how the Palms Collection came about.
It's the beginning of something great for me and my community,
and that's what I wanted to bring forth.
Now, with these Palms, you know,
I wanted to make them as most individual as possible,
They have different emotional traits.
They have different textures.
They have different, so much going on for them,
that apart from just, you know,
a slight change that I just, I just, I don't know,
I feel like they've really taken a life of their own.
I even have some, you know,
supporters in the audience, some people from our Discord,
some collectors here that I love dearly.
They have their own pieces, some multiple,
and they just rave and rave about how unique they are to them.
You know, they're proud to have these items.
That's something that I've noticed within our,
I guess you can say I'm not much of a numbers guy.
I've been talking about emotions the entire time,
so I'm not really much of a super focused on the numbers guy,
but I know that there are a lot of people that, you know,
So I do want to say that majority, if not all,
almost all of the collection is still within our collectors,
and I think that's a beautiful thing.
I think that speaks to the purpose
of what I've been trying to accomplish with Palms,
and that is, you know, have that emotion be pulled out of you
so much to where you can't part with it.
And that's what's going on within our community here.
It's really interesting to hear the way that you articulated,
because when I look at the collection itself
in terms of what's already out there
and I then go back to your earlier work,
it's so clear to me that you have so much of a focus
on saying what isn't being spoken.
And I mean, again, you get that through a lot of your
I mean, you see that in Who Will Save Us, right?
You know, the way that you have a laying of hands there,
like it's a very personal touch.
You have what's not necessarily being said
but can be felt through something like Icarus's descent.
There's really beautiful context that can be said
for something that isn't explicitly being said in words.
There's a lot to be felt there.
And I think that you've achieved that
within your current collection,
but what I'm not so sure of from looking at prior work
and trying to dive deeper into your portfolio
is I don't think that I've seen any work from you
that you've done in collaboration with others.
And from what I understand about Palms
is you have quite a few collabs in here.
So would you mind sharing with us a little bit
about your experience collaborating with these artists
and how they kind of have worked with you
in making something that is truly representative
of both of your unique styles?
I'm actually very glad that you brought the fact
that you don't see many varied collaborations
within our media or timeline.
Now, I do have collaborations here and there
with artists that are very...
Artists that are essentially really...
What's the word I'm looking for?
Just have a good tide with, you know?
You can't force collaborations within the artistry.
Those things have to happen very organically.
You can tell when a collaboration can feel very forced,
and that's something I never wanted to do.
I have collaborations, I'd say, I guess,
I can say one with my good friend, Pho, Phoeton Tide.
I'm sure a few people may know of him.
He's also a great artist, an incredible artist.
And he's somebody that I've built a relationship with
for a few years now, you know?
It started off by us just enjoying our work together,
and it ended up us playing, you know,
like video games together
and finally meeting up in NFT NYC, you know?
Just things like that kind of rope into why
I feel like a collaboration may be good with somebody.
Now, not every single one of these artists
have the deepest, deepest relationship with.
But I have some type of adoration,
some type of love for it,
and they feel the same sentiment with me.
Those are the collaborations that I chose to be on this project,
and we have a number of them.
I have my good friend Tijo.
I'm sure everybody knows Tijo.
He had a collaboration in the collection as well.
And I'm actually surprised no one's...
Well, the collaboration...
I'm getting ahead of myself.
The project itself is randomized.
So once you mint, it's a random piece that you receive.
Nobody has pulled Tijo's piece.
Nobody has pulled Phoeton's piece.
There are still huge collaborations in there
that I love dearly, still within the collection.
I don't think I've mentioned this yet,
but the first phase of the collection was the first half.
The first half has been minted.
The second half will be minted coming up,
And that still has so many great
collaboration or one-of-ones in there.
So far, we've had my good friend Polygon 1993.
He's an incredible artist.
He's done multiple animations,
and I've seen him do so many billboards.
He was one of the first to be actually minted
We also have our friend Ego Dead.
He's an incredible one-of-one artist as well.
He was also minted in the collection.
And I'm talking these pieces are already going on sale
for about an entire evening.
I am actually shocked at how well things are going,
as this is my first collection.
I guess you can say the buildup over time
from these years of making connections,
making friends, working with artists,
working with collectors, curators,
promoting my own work, other people's work,
having one-of-ones, things like that
This is my child, I guess you can say.
And there's no reason why I shouldn't have other people
that have seen my growth, witnessed my growth,
and I've witnessed their growth as well
be part of this collection.
I think that that makes for a beautiful thing,
and it's something that we're all going to look back on
and really enjoy the fact that we've even made this happen.
It's a piece of art history,
and I'm trying my best to make it a piece
of a much bigger community's history as well.
That's what we're building now.
And honestly, the fact that you're taking them
on this journey with you,
it's a really, really cool thing.
And I hope that one day when I get the opportunity
to take a curatorial journey of my own
and curating a collection,
I think that there is something to be said
of bringing the people with you
that have been with you all along the way.
And I think it's a beautiful sentiment.
But as I am taking notice of where we're at
within the show and who's on stage now,
I want to make sure that everybody knows,
if you have questions for K, feel free to come up.
We've got a handful of folks that have come up
and come back down, but we've got a few on stage now
that I would love to be able to hear from
if they have any questions for K
or just generally speaking about art.
Do you happen to have a question for K?
No, I'm just digging into the stuff now.
I actually wasn't following K before,
so I appreciate Steven for connecting me
continuously with more dope artists
that I get to find and explore for the first time.
So it's cool to see your stuff.
Are you, is it something that I can currently mint
Yeah, so the pop collection is on secondary,
so I'm not so good at trying to sell
I'm more so good at just, I guess,
But yes, in my bio, the pop collection,
it's going to be in the bio right there.
I usually have my link tree up with one of ones,
say on foundation, say on super rare, things like that.
Right now, my Discord is taking over that spot,
but I'll put the link tree back up
just so you can have a better dive deep
without having to scroll through my media.
But I appreciate you for even having an interest
in anything that I'm creating,
just from hearing my story.
Yeah, no, I resonate with that for sure.
Now, real quick, K, you had mentioned the fact
that it is available on secondary,
but it is also important to equally communicate
that while it is on secondary,
the second phase of Palms is what is
going to be rolling out here shortly.
Now, just to kind of get a little bit of clarity
around that element, first and foremost,
I know I hit you up a couple days ago,
seeing if you would officially set a date
or phase two to start rolling out and minting.
Do you have a firm date at this point
that we can share with people?
Yes, I'm going to say it is Thursday.
That is going to be the date.
We're going to run it for 24 hours,
It's going to go for 24 hours.
That's what it's going to conclude.
What we're going to plan to do is
And the reason for that is because it is
based on Ethereum collection
and the way gas prices are working right now,
it's kind of crazy out there.
So I want to give 24 hours just as phase one
because you can kind of wake up at 3 in the morning
and gas may be a bit lower.
So it is an Ethereum-based collection.
But, and here's just a bit of alpha
This is going to trace into the ordinals.
What I mean by that is farm's holders
will be first to go ahead and get into
my first ordinal ecosystem.
I haven't done anything on ordinals at all,
but from Stephen talking to me.
I've even talked to Big God.
We've actually had a, I don't think he's here anymore,
but we had a conversation, a quick call,
and he was introducing me into ordinals,
just giving me the 411 on everything going on there
And I told him, hey, I'll double back with you
and we'll get things going.
And now is the time that I'm actually
And I'll be doing my first one very soon.
I'd say in about 9 to 10 days.
And palms holders are going to be the first
to that ordinal, you know?
So I'm very excited about getting into that.
Did you really just admit on the show
that my peer pressure worked?
Yeah, yeah, I kind of did.
Let me just drop down right here.
Man, I'm hyped about that.
The fact that I can save you from,
never mind, I'm not going to talk shit on Solana
or Tezos in this show, I promise.
I cannot make that promise for next show
because I talked plenty of shit last week on Tezos.
Next week is a whole new week.
We're focused on the art.
Anyway, want to toss it to flame.
And Swag, it was a great question.
I appreciate you bringing that up
and helping to get that element of it out there.
It's important to talk about it.
Somehow he automatically went to my follow-up question,
It's because when you come to stage,
People know that you're coming up for the ordinal battle.
Flame, I want to go to you.
Do you happen to have any questions for Kay?
First of all, the term is gib.
And I do have a question for Kay,
but first of all, I just want to say,
I really appreciate your work.
There's some really incredible stuff in there.
Awaken My Love is one of my favorite things
in all of your whole portfolio.
I saw somebody rocking that on your timeline.
And I also just want to give you a lot of props
and a lot of respect, which is the same exact thing,
for all of the art of other artists that you share
You have incredible taste,
and it's also just a really generous spirit
of you as an artist to share other people's art.
I think that's really important in this space,
to not just be focusing on what we're interested in
and what we're trying to get the word out about
and promote and make available
and put in people's consciousness,
but also to share the work of other artists.
And when artists share other artists' work,
I think it's extra special because
it's through their lens of artistry.
Definitely give Kay a follow
and just check out who he's retweeting.
You're going to discover a lot of other
I'm just kind of blown away by some of these people
who I've never heard of before, and I love that.
So my question is, really,
you've talked a lot about everything that inspires you,
but what I guess currently is really
sparking that creative flow
and making you want to produce more art.
What is it that's getting you out of bed right now?
Right now, I'd say it's the challenge.
I'm testing and challenging myself every single day.
When it came to making poems,
Well, actually, I made about three pieces a day to do poems,
and that kind of got me hooked.
Of course, I always loved creating and making the pieces,
but when I did poems, it put an entire different fire into me,
telling me, hey, you can hugely improve your artistry
if you just keep pushing.
That's what I kept on doing.
That's what's giving me the inspiration now.
I feel like I haven't really had much of a break,
because I don't feel burnt out, surprisingly.
I just feel like I just want to create more and more and more and more,
and that's what I'm going to keep doing.
I want to test concepts, test feelings.
How can I make something that makes me feel this certain type of way?
I may see something I want in a movie.
I may see something in a show,
and I'll just be like, hey, this feeling that it gives me,
how can I replicate that into my own world?
For example, I just saw Dune 2.
And I think that everybody can say that that's an inspirational freaking movie.
If you can't, then hey, that's on me.
But man, it inspired the hell out of me.
The cinematography, I want to get into something like that as well.
I have a few animations here,
and I even had an animation on Solana.
That was my genesis that sold out, thankfully.
And that was my most, I'd say it's a cinematic piece.
I want to do more things like that.
So it's just really the urge of challenge
and the urge of getting better is what's pushing me day after day.
I see my peers, like the people that you say,
I have great taste and thank you for that.
Most of those people are my friends.
Most of those people are just artists I talk to on a daily basis,
check up on with them, give them calls here and there,
and see their latest piece.
And then I give them a retweet because I generally enjoy it.
And I feel like other people would too.
Those people push the hell out of me.
I think that's how it should be with your peers,
within any industry, within any career path.
You won't need your peers to be pushing you,
making you better, wanting to see you get better.
And that's what helps me keep chugging along,
I'll give an example as well.
I had a good friend, I had a friend named Hayden.
He had a collection on foundation that dropped,
I'd say a couple months ago, called Strange Clouds.
And what he did with that collection,
essentially inspired me to say,
hey, I can do a collection.
And that's how Palms even initiated from an artist friend
doing something that you didn't think you could do.
And it just opened your eyes like damn, man,
you can freaking do this.
So that's what helps push me.
Appreciate you sharing that with us.
And one more little piece of alpha before we move on.
Speaking of artists, when ordinals,
there's an incredible artist named Jared Armillo.
And he's a synesthesia, he has synesthesia,
he has Cro-Mesthesia to be specific,
and he takes these incredible images
that are all inspired by that.
And he's been dropping these incredible
breathtaking pieces on Eve for a long time.
You know, these are photographs,
but then he manipulates the color
to sort of go in line with what he was seeing and feeling
while he was creating the pieces,
and they're accompanied by these incredible poems
and he's also just a really super nice dude.
He's dropping a counterfeit card,
so keep an eye out for that.
Yeah, we were actually going to head
in that general direction shortly,
probably like in the next five or so minutes,
because this has been a very, very marathon episode.
And again, major appreciation to all the listeners
who have stuck around for the entire thing,
to the guests, to Flame, to Skrilla's mom,
everybody for sticking around.
The show normally goes 90,
and we like to get into drop talk afterward,
but that was definitely one that was firmly
on the docket to bring up.
So yeah, if you're into that sort of thing,
you like photography or you like breaking out
from what you may think photography should be,
Jared's collection is phenomenal.
That counterfeit card is, I believe,
available right now at a collector's,
but I believe it goes to public tomorrow.
But yeah, very, very good one to bring up, Flame.
And the fact that you start to see that
exact type of behavior out of an artist like UK,
or even from a handful of others that can come to mind,
it's a beautiful thing how the artists in our community
do rally around each other.
And I hope that for those of you that are listening
in the audience, that either whether you're an artist,
a collector, or otherwise, that you do take the time
to really share work of other people,
because that's how we can help people
discover more of these phenomenal artists.
It's really, really important.
Yes, the shows like this and, you know,
Digest that cover all the drops do a good job.
But really, it takes all of us.
So I would encourage you to take the time to go
seek out the work of an artist that you want to support
and show them love on your timeline.
Share a piece of their work.
It's a very, very, very big deal.
But Kay, I want to throw one more question back to you
in terms of call it the intentionality
Because you already dropped the alpha here that
you're going to be making the ordinals move.
Have you given much thought already to
what type of story you want to tell as your ordinals Genesis?
It's interesting you said that because it's already inscribed
and essentially what the ordinals drop is,
it is the, how can I say,
a culmination of the Palms Collection into a piece.
That's what the ordinals drop is to me.
So when I say things on the timeline,
I may drop a hand emoji and a key emoji
and then the orange block.
What I'm really saying is the Palms are the key to the ordinals.
And some people caught on to it
and they got some whiteness spots
and some people didn't and that's okay.
But that's what I wanted to come across from everything.
I want everything to lead into the next thing
in a cohesive story manner.
So when the Palms Collections drop,
even just holding a palm,
will have the key to unlocking the next story,
the next thing to look forward to
from within this entire ecosystem that I'm building here.
Now the piece itself is a one of one piece,
but it is split down 111 ways.
So the initial Palms Collection drop was 333.
So we're stripping that down into the ordinals drop for 111.
I feel like that's going to give it much value that it deserves
as being my ordinals Genesis.
And I just want to see who comes with me for the ride
and many, many more things are on the horizon.
One thing I do want to bring up though,
for the people that may already kind of know me,
I have an entire web two area as well
where I have a clothing shop.
I do clothing, I do jewelry,
I do prints all on my own by myself.
And that's going to be connected as well
to everything I'm doing with three.
I've already dropped that off in the Discord.
hey, if you guys aren't sending clothing,
you're going to be getting first dibs.
If you hold palms, certain amount of palms
or even the upcoming ordinals drop,
you're going to get first dibs at that.
I'm going to be working on a couple of other things as well,
items like books, prints,
and I want the people in my community
to be first at those things.
I guess you can say that's a bit more utility ad norm,
I think that's a great way to connect things,
But yeah, I just want to make it as exciting as possible
and really give people something to look forward to
and be excited to receive.
And I do think that we're seeing more and more artists
take that type of similar leap right into
going with physical goods
and giving a different way to connect with work.
So I applaud you for doing it.
And if you can share the link
for how we can see some of the stuff
that you got in that store at any point,
I'm sure that plenty of the people in the audience
would love to see that as well,
unless it's something that's currently
under maintenance or being built.
Under construction was the word I was trying to find.
I've had the website going strong
for about three years now.
And we released everything from
goodies to sweatpants to t-shirts
to stickers, prints, blankets.
It's been a pretty big roller coaster
when it comes to the store.
So I'll drop a few things in there for sure.
I'm going to go ahead and send this right now.
and it's my favorite hoodie that I have right now.
That's right now in the store.
And I want to give a free tip.
I want to give this stuff to you guys first.
More than I deserve this.
People that support me, I want to support them.
Well, you definitely did break up a little bit there.
I think I caught most of it.
Yeah, you were rugged for just a second.
I just kind of went robotic.
Yep, you pinned it up top.
So people, if you want to go check that out,
along with some of Kay's other work,
I went ahead and pinned a bunch of it up to the top,
along with work from the other artists that we've heard from on the show so far,
and some of the work that the Bitcoin Art House has been popping with as well
So you've got plenty of different things to look at for reference material.
But, Kay, honestly, it's been a pleasure getting the chance to chat with you
about the collection and what you've got coming up
and getting a little bit of the alpha that you've got ordinals coming.
Man, I'm bullish as all hell.
But truly, it's exciting times to be a collector of yours.
So if I could get one final bit of clarity from you
for Palms Phase 2, is it this Thursday, the 21st,
or is it going to be next Thursday?
Well, look, for everybody in the audience,
if you want a shot at that,
we are giving away five allow list spots for that mint.
So please go up the top, look in the banner,
and find the instructions on how you can be eligible for that drop.
It's really, really simple.
Retweet, follow the speakers,
and drop your ordinals and ETH address in the replies
in the lower right-hand corner.
I want as many people to be eligible as possible for this,
but there are, in fact, going to be multiple people
that get multiple spots out of this.
Maybe not for an individual collection, per se,
but because we have five different collections
that we've got allow list spots for tonight
and over 105 total slots,
there's a lot of love to be spread around.
So I want to make sure everybody's covered
So, look, Kay, again, it's been an absolute pleasure
getting the chance to hear about it.
I want to leave final words with you over to Flame
for a final question or final comment,
and then give you the ability to leave us with a final thought.
First of all, I just want to thank you
for the privilege of being up here on stage with you
and all these amazing guests.
So much fun getting to hear about all this stuff,
especially some of it firsthand for the first time.
And you do a great job, Steven,
so I'm really glad that you're doing this.
Like, these are some of the most comprehensive threads
I've ever seen in the space about art alpha,
and you really do your homework the way you speak to artists,
the way you speak about artists.
It's so respectful, and we all really appreciate you.
Last little bit of alpha.
For people who don't know, X copy dropped an open edition
Not sure what that's going to entail,
but they're very inexpensive and they're on base.
Maybe collecting some means you can burn some
and get something, I don't know.
Not financially biased, but that's out there.
And also, if you're holding a Runestone, don't list it
because a lot of people are using it as basically
like an airdrop or a mintless pass.
The latest one I just saw is from an artist named Salim
who is going to be offering a free mint
for all Runestone holders, snapshots in the next 48 hours.
So just be aware of that.
And if you have more than one Runestone,
the alpha is putting them in more than one wall,
which is probably a good idea in general
if you want to protect your assets
to put them in more than one ledger protected wallet
and see what kind of access that gives you.
And look, we're just going to send it right on around the horn.
I like to make sure that every single guest has an opportunity
to share some parting words on the evening.
And then I will round us out with some final housekeeping
and a little bit of drop talk.
So let's take it to the speakers
and see if we've got any final thoughts to share.
Kay, any final words for our audience this evening?
So I want to give final words over to you, Steven,
that for this incredible space,
this incredible opportunity to even be here,
you've supported me, you know,
first and foremost within a random group chat that we're in,
and you just enjoy the work
and put me on there on the thread.
it means an incredible amount to an artist.
So thank you so much for supporting and the space.
And I want to thank everybody in the audience as well
for being here and listening to me pretty much ramble
and rant about my story and why poems, things of that sort.
If you ever want to join my ecosystem in my community,
We are welcoming here with open arms
and, you know, you will be very much appreciated.
So thank you for having me and thank you for this space.
Truly has a really welcoming community.
I'm going to share a little personal thing real quick.
I thought I slid into his Discord really covertly earlier.
And it was not like 15 seconds later that I was being greeted.
And it's such a warm community.
You should definitely go join it and get more familiar with Kay's work.
We're going to take it next to a speaker who joined us for a question with Kay.
Swag, do you have any final thoughts for the audience this evening?
Yes, I'm going to put you on the spot, sir.
Do you have any final thoughts for the audience before we go?
You're lucky I didn't start brushing my teeth yet.
Tonight I'm getting some sleep.
I love these artists' spotlights and putting other people on that I haven't seen before.
You know, there are a lot of familiar faces up here,
a lot of fucking legends that followed me,
and I had to immediately follow them back.
Kay, I'm excited to see what you do on Ordinals.
Those that have questions, feel free to hit me up.
Lindoko, do not fade, Lindoko.
Get eight hours of sleep tonight.
I don't know if neuro is available.
I'm going to force as best I can,
Lynn, to be available, though.
Lynn, do you have any ability or words for the audience as a little sign off?
We'll call you by your full name.
Fully docked, so I'm going to get him back.
Yeah, no, look, he was very open and honest about the fact that he had a conflict that
I imagine neuro is still at dinner, but he is still with us up on stage.
Neuro, are you listening?
I've got the wife and daughter here, but I'm-
Do you have any final words for us this evening real quick?
I just wanted to say that this was an awesome space.
Glad that I was able to stay on, so I couldn't talk much more.
But, yeah, you know, Kai, Kai, your work is really awesome.
Really, really cool and inspiring to see it as well.
Just love the energy that goes into it.
I mean, it's something, I don't know, it's just, I think, yeah, my daughter's
starting to kind of get a little hungry, so I'll probably hop off here.
But, you know, I just, I really, really appreciate these spaces and
everybody coming on with so many, you know, so many different viewpoints,
different perspectives here, bringing the vibe to learn from each other
I think it's really special, you know, and across chains.
So, you know, Steven, thanks for bringing that.
You know, just, we're all, you know, there's no such thing as ordinals,
maxis or ethmaxis or Bitcoin maxis.
People hate these things, you know, but honestly, we're all here for art,
for expression, for love, and that's something that unites us all.
You know, there's a lot more that brings us together than what divides us.
So, I just love what you guys are doing to share with each other.
So, yeah, thanks for all that.
You know, that's, of course, what Blob is all about.
So, you know, of course, love, if anyone wants to learn more,
to get involved in that, definitely hit me up.
And, you know, obviously you can kind of like get a feel for that
around the community anyway.
And, yeah, I'm going to go feed my two-year-old and enjoy this birthday dinner.
But, yeah, thanks again for everything and look forward to the next one.
Thanks so much, Nuro, and happy birthday to Mrs. Nuro.
I'm really, really grateful that you allowed Mr. Nuro to come out with us
and hang out tonight for a little space on Blob.
And, you know, have a little bit of fun with the creators, man.
That's what this space is about.
Look, I'm going to get really, really down to business
and kind of get us out of the door here.
I need to give a little bit of highlight on Drop Talk.
It's what I live and breathe these days.
So, just so that you guys are aware of it,
I want to put these collections on your radar.
Otherwise, you can find it up in the banner in All Eyes On Art.
It's every single upcoming collection across the week
and into the next 30 days is always logged there.
It is not just me putting every single drop that I find in it.
I really do make sure that it's the highest quality drops that, you know,
are coming from artists that really care.
So, please do give that a look.
Connect with an artist that you love or that you newly love.
But on this current week, so that it's on your radar fully.
On Monday, we had two really, really big drops
that officially went out and went live.
First of them was Bitmon from Des Lucress.
He put out a phenomenal collection on Organals called Bitmon
and it was super selective to get into it.
And honestly, people love it.
I'm really, really, really loving the way the collection turned out
and it's getting the attention that it deserves, which I'm pumped for.
But it is officially closed.
You can find that on secondary on Magic Eden.
Then we also had Memento Mori from Richard Nadler
went live on Monday for a 24-hour ranked auction.
and it closed in really remarkable fashion, if we're being honest.
I wasn't sure if a ranked auction in the ordinal space
was going to be able to eclipse more than .01
but it went all the way to .04.
So that was your clearing price.
Frankly, the work is on a completely different level.
He did a phenomenal job of explaining it on Art as Alpha with NFT Now.
I was fortunate to be in that space with them to ask a couple questions.
But really, really expecting beautiful things from the team
that helped him put that out, that was put out through GM DOW's
Ordinal's Endeavor called GM Scribe.
So please make sure that you're giving them a little bit of love and a look
because I'm sure they've got another collection coming up here real soon.
Per what Flame brought up earlier,
opening today was Misfit by Jared Armijo,
aka Away I Flew with Counterfeit.
That collection really looks fantastic.
Again, it is an edition piece or a print piece if you're using gamma terms.
And it is an edition of .222
and it will be available to the public tomorrow.
It is currently only available, I believe, to allow list and to artifact holders.
So please be aware of that.
It is a dope collection on Ordinal's.
Jared really did something special with this drop.
Also dropping today was Ghost in the Net by Kazuhiro Tanimoto.
Really phenomenal generative artist in the ETH space.
Ghost in the Net looked like honestly incredible work.
I don't know how he does it.
A lot of his work just kind of mesmerizes me,
but it's worth checking out.
I could be mistaken, but I believe it minted out.
Then Thursday, of course, you heard.
Please put that on your radar.
Mark your calendar for it.
You may, in fact, walk away from this space tonight with a white list for it.
I'm sorry, an allow list for it.
That's worth keeping an eye on.
Also on Thursday, you've got O's from Nathan Kornes,
We are giving away a bunch of allow list spots for that tonight,
including some VIP spots.
That is a generative collection that is being dropped on Gamma.
Mint price is very, very approachable.
So keep an eye out for that one.
I'm a big fan of Nathan's.
I think he's got a great piece there.
It really is a data sculpture,
more than it is just purely generative art.
He's got a phenomenal work out there.
And then lastly, on the week,
I want to make sure that you are aware of chain viruses next collection.
It's dropping on Saturday.
and it is primarily going to be available to his current holders.
But that doesn't mean that you can't be a holder.
If it does not get claimed within a certain window of time,
I believe it is going to go to an allow list and to a public mint.
That is going to wrap drop talk in the most rapid fire way
I could possibly deliver it to you.
But let's go ahead and let you know who you have
on the next episode of color commentary next week on Tuesday,
I hope you will rejoin us because we have a special guest as always.
But the first of those guests next week is going to be Brennan dot eth.
He's the creator of Skordinals,
and he will be talking about his upcoming collection,
as well as maybe another collection that I'm going to try to get
Alpha on for you that he's not yet really made super public.
So please do turn out for that.
You can, of course, keep an eye out for my allies on art digest
every Monday morning that will be coming out
and the return of discover art on Thursdays.
That will be back this week.
It's a three part series.
I like to give you a three piece deep dive into a collection
for a few collections that really are worth looking at
and are worth trying to connect with.
And, you know, just to very simply discover new artists
that may not be on your radar.
So want to make sure all of that's out there for you.
lots of alpha across this incredible marathon space that we had tonight.
So got to give a TDA shout out.
Color commentary is a part of the daily office partner network of spaces.
And we are thrilled to still be a part of it
and that they've given us that invitation.
And it's an honor to be a part of it.
You can, of course, check out the TDA Tuesday through Friday at 10 45 a.m.
Eastern Time and Saturdays at 11 30 a.m. Eastern.
One of the best alpha spaces out there.
Final thank you to the artists and speakers who joined us tonight
the one and only human on fire flame, a.k.a. flame blob.
Appreciate all the listeners for sticking with us.
And of course, a huge shout out to all the collab partners
that gave us the opportunity to run this giveaway tonight.
I never would have thought within the last three to four weeks
or even the last seven or so as we've been running this show
that it would gain the type of momentum
to where we'd be giving out 105 allow lists in one show.
I'm not surprised at all.
Well, look, guys, that is going to do it for me again.
You've been listening to color commentary.
I have been Stephen Miller.
I will be here next week at 7 p.m. Eastern Time.
But for now, I'm going to leave you with a little bit of a vibe
to get you out and into your evening.
We'll see you on the flip side.
I know I was born for this.
I'm came from the critics.
My words and life is in force.
I'm not done till I'm on top.
I knew I was born for this.
I know I was born for this.
I believe, I believe we can write a story.
I believe, I believe we can be an army.
We are the warriors who learn to love the pain.
We come from different places, but have the same name.
Because we were, because we were, because we were born for this.
We are the broken ones who chose us all to claim.
Watch as our fire rages, our hearts are never tamed.
Because we were, because we were, because we were born for this.
I'll show you the reason through all the tears I faced at the top side.
I never gave in to my 54th, because I ruined my voice inside.
I know I was born for this.
I know I was born for this.
I will never lose my voice.
If I cut out all the noise, I know I was born for this.
I know I was born for this.
I believe, I believe we can write a story.
I believe, I believe we can be an army.
We are the warriors who learn to love the pain.
We come from different places, but have the same name.
Because we were, because we were, because we were born for this.
We are the broken ones who chose us all to claim.
Watch as our fire rages, our hearts are never tamed.
Because we were, because we were, because we were,
because we were born for this.