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Community Call: Partisia Blockchain's Adoption with GODS Network
Recorded: April 8, 2025 Duration: 1:13:42Space Recording
Short Summary
God's Network Launches as a Cross-Chain Messaging Protocol to Enhance Blockchain Interoperability. The team discusses the project's potential to drive adoption and security in the blockchain ecosystem, while addressing community concerns about the MPC token's value and the project's revenue model.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hey Kurt, can you hear me?
Hey Kurt, I've given you speaker access. Can you hear me?
Testing, one, two, three.
Testing, testing.
It works, fantastic.
It works. That's good. That is the first hurdle to get over.
Yes.
We'll wait a few more minutes for Peter and Matthias to join
and let a few others from the community join in too. Thank you. Hello Peter, you can request access to be a speaker and Adam as well please, so I can
bring you up. both approved thank you
i believe we're still waiting on matthias and we'll we'll wait a few more minutes to let let
people roll in in
I think Matthias, is he in the right place?
He seems to say that he requested to speak.
Yeah, I've done it the other way around and sent a speaker request to Matthias, so he
should have received that. Thank you. we should definitely get some holding music going forward.
In the meantime, we're just trying to get Matthias in.
X can be temperamental at times, so we'll give that a few minutes and also allow others
time to join as officially it's just opened up. Thank you. Thank you. Unfortunately, X appears to be playing the typical games it does, so we're waiting on Matthias to try and join.
typical games it does uh so we're waiting on matthias to try and join uh we do have peter kurt
and adam here from the patisia team uh and god's network team and uh we wait for
matthias to join and try one more time and if not we can we can continue on so Thank you. I think we've given it enough time now, so thanks for everyone that's joined.
We will try to get matthias into into the
community call as soon as we can just a few technical difficulties at the moment um so welcome
and thanks for joining us there's been a lot of conversation in our telegram around god's network
in the community and and obviously a lot of excitement around god's network and the
opportunities it brings as an adoption driver and
interoperability application built on top of Partizia public chain. We wanted to have this
call to answer, well firstly introduce God's and then answer some of the questions that complement
the existing documentation out there like the website and white paper which we encourage you
to check out. We'd be sharing
links in the comments and across our community channels as well in TG and Discord. So Adam,
please, if you've got any of those links available for the comments here on this spaces, that would
be amazing to share. We understand there are a lot of questions and bear in mind this is an
introductory call around God's.
So to manage expectations, this will be more of a quick-fire community call
to address the many topics that have come up.
And this is just the beginning. You'll hear about God's Network as time goes on.
And if you want to know more, then as I've mentioned,
please join us in the community.
It seems I may be able to add Matthias now from the Gods Network channel.
Matthias, are you here with us?
This is always the fun of Live.com.
It is indeed always sort of channeling the spirit are you here matthias can
you hear us hello hello interesting you are okay great there's something wrong with your account
then your your personal one so good to have you here uh thanks for the work all day long
thanks for the work around and a bit of a interruption to my intro, but good to have you here. That's more important.
Quick round of intros then. Some familiar faces from Patizia Blockchain and also co-founders of God's Network.
So we've got Peter Franson, Kurt Nielsen and Matthias Glimborg.
And I'll be your host, Yusef Vanous, Chief Commercial Officer at Patizia Blockchain.
Yusef Benoos, Chief Commercial Officer at Patrizia Blockchain.
Given the amount of topics and questions to answer and obviously the interest in God's,
we'll just jump straight into it. So Matthias, now that you're prepared, we'll go straight to you.
What exactly is God's Network? Yeah, thanks Yusef and thanks everyone for joining in. So
Yeah, thanks, Juf, and thanks everyone for joining in.
So, yeah, let's get straight into it.
From a high level, Guts Network is a cross-chain messaging protocol
for any data from a blockchain or a smart contract.
So you probably heard about these kind of concepts before,
and obviously Guts Network is different than some of the other ones,
which we will touch upon later on.
I think one thing which is really characteristic and interesting here is that
it's a subscription-based messaging protocol.
So for anyone who's building a cross-chain D app,
they can go in and they can subscribe to various data on different blockchains
and they can unify it into one application
and they can abstract away all that complexity that is in handling cross-chain messaging and security.
GOTS Network also has a public blockchain as a backend and that's Partizia blockchain
which we selected and GOTS Network has selected because it has some very desirable properties
that increase the security and transparency.
I think it's always most easy to explain
what is this exactly by demonstrating some use cases.
So this is pretty agnostic.
You can build a bunch of use cases on this.
But for example, if you want to build something which is very hot,
AI agents, you can build an AI agent on one chain or multiple chains.
And as these AI agents, they have a certain behavior on data inputs.
It's extremely important that the data you fetch from various networks, they are
reliable and they're accurate and they are not tampered with. So then something like what we're
doing in GUTS network is very critical to make sure that you get all the data and you get the
correct data into your agent so they have the desired sort of behavior. A very classic one is also building a token bridge. Most token bridges,
they need some kind of cross-chain infrastructure unless they want to build their own. And I think
the security around a cross-chain bridge and the need for a cross-chain messaging infrastructure to
cross-chain messaging infrastructure to make sure tokens are locked and mint and burned at the right
time and the right process is critical and recent years there's been a lot of hacks which has
really shown that there's a need to for paramount security here it's billions of dollars that's that
has been hacked on on that particular use case.
So I'm just going to hold off here.
This was a very high-level introduction, and we'll get into some of it.
Yeah, you're covering things that we'll get into in greater detail, I guess, later in this call. So for the layperson, you've mentioned it's a subscription, a data subscription service.
For the layperson, how does this work?
Is it similar to an RSS feed for websites or is there a better comparison to use?
I think I'm just going to stick to the Web3 way of doing it because that should be pretty uh intuitive for most people
and that that's also the intention right so in god's network you literally go into a smart
contract on the blockchain you want to build on and you interact with a smart contract where you
create a subscription and you put money into that subscription. So as you receive the data,
you'll get charged on your subscription account. So you can specify any blockchain or smart contract data
on all the networks that's integrated into the network.
Got it, got it.
Okay, understood.
And you mentioned bridges.
And as we know,
it's one of the most vulnerable parts
of the Web3 ecosystem where, well, millions have been hacked.
So that's clearly one of the big problems God's Network is solving, which is around security across sending and sharing data.
and sharing data.
Interoperability would be another with all of the
continuously spawning ecosystems, L1s, L2s.
Can you maybe put it in a more concise way
and something that you're more knowledgeable about
around what is the big problem effectively that God's network is solving
and maybe jump into some of those details around
how it's better than the current bridging ecosystems.
Yeah, Kurt, maybe you want to take that. That's something we talked about very recently.
Yes, yes. Sorry, I can jump in on this one. So at a high level, it's kind of turning Web3 into a coherent alternative to Web2, which is like the real long-term driver of Web3.
So what does that really mean?
I don't think I can hear Kurt.
I can hear Kurt.
I think it's X who was playing a trick here again.
Yeah, X is a temperament.
I think everyone
else can hear you for now.
Okay, so what does that really
mean?
If we go back to some of the
things that Matthias mentioned,
it's really like you have
a Web3 ecosystem, which
is a security island, so you're
sitting on Solana, you're sitting on Ethereum, you're sitting on
particular blockchain. Each of them have their own security islands, so you're sitting on Solana, you're sitting on Ethereum, you're sitting on particular blockchain, each of them have their own security model. And when you do interoperability,
you need to basically move out of the security model and into another one. So that's why you
have had all these hacks, the breaches, which is doing exactly that. And that's also why it's a
hard problem to solve. So we really need high security, such that you don't tap out of a security model
without a secure bridging between these security islands,
if you can look at it that way.
But doing that subscription,
if you get data delivered securely and accurate
across blockchains, then you as an app developer or an app user,
you're not really moving out of the blockchain
where the service is,
even though it relies on data
that is coming from other blockchains.
And that's really the trick that we're doing here,
providing that easy access,
readily available, secure data.
And that's what we will talk more about here. Perfect. Yeah, thanks for summing up at the end.
I took the words out of my mouth in terms of the ease of interoperability and use of data sharing.
So a key question that's come from the community is around why
God's Network was created as a separate application layer rather than built
within Patizia blockchain itself. I think Kurt, maybe one for you to field on that question.
Yes, I'll do that again. I hope my voice is not failing me today, but I feel it.
It's getting there.
Anyway, so the COPS Network is really an adoption project on the Patricia blockchain.
And it's extending both what we can do with Web3, what we can do with Patricia blockchain, what kind of DApps can do on Patricia blockchain.
And every use, in whatever context it is, is adoption and can do on Patricia blockchain. And every use in whatever context it is,
is adoption and transactions on the Patricia blockchain.
So that's what it's all about.
It's really amplifying what we're doing in Patricia blockchain.
And why we set it up as a separate application
was to get the right degrees of freedom
as the Patricia blockchain, as a layer one,
Swiss foundation is regulated and there's a certain arm strength requirement to operation.
And we will need to be more involved in the operation to get this service to work
and also make direct business-to-bus with the with the node operators and that's is
not really feasible within the Swiss Foundation structure. Yes, certainly. Yeah. No, I just I
wanted to I guess double down on that point and maybe make it more real. So there are limitations
as a Swiss Foundation for sure. I'm curious on maybe what some of the specifics are around degrees of freedom.
So whether it's a certain narrative or type of business or project we can work with,
whether it's a level of KYC or KYB or any other type of suitable example, I suppose.
The way we set it up, we move all obstacles so we can do anything.
We can build bridges, be directly involved in bridging, directly involved in moving.
Make sure that you can access registers of credentials sitting on various blockchains,
various blockchains collecting access or create an overview of NFTs that represent physical assets
sitting on different blockchains and put them to work in smart contracts. So there's no limitation
the way we set it up. And also worth mentioning that it also is a way of saving the funds for the main purpose of the Patricia blockchain, because there's no funding from Patricia blockchain going to this project.
This is just an adoption project that is all about doubling down on adoption on the Patricia blockchain.
Perfect, perfect. Thanks for covering that. I'm
sure we'll definitely get more questions around that from the community. We'll field them as and
when they come up. So I'm curious around the interoperability component. I mean, we've been
hearing about interoperability pretty much since the dawn of time in this industry. What makes
God's network different from others? Maybe protocols like Layer Zero or Wormhole? Matthias, maybe one for you.
Yeah, thanks. It's a really good question because sometimes when you need to explain what
we are building, perhaps the easiest way is to share some names of other protocols
like the one you mentioned.
But the way we are really different is that, as Kurti mentioned,
with our protocol, you can subscribe for any Web3 data.
So we don't develop specific endpointspoints so you can only build a bridge. We don't subscribe
to a certain standard to build a vendor login. We allow you just to take any log event from any
blockchain and so on.
So you get that sort of flexibility to venture out in some of what we believe are the next big markets.
Gots Network also has a public blockchain as a backend and that's again Partisia blockchain.
There are also some of the other ones which are building with a public
blockchain back end what gives on an edge here is like all the good stuff in Patricia blockchain
right we have a PC protected core infrastructure we can drive and operate these large scale and PC
based systems that that's needed so we can provide the paramount security, the liveness and availability
needed in these systems. And then we also have another layer of transparency and a way
to verify the liveness of the system. And just to talk a little bit on that liveness, right, because we spoke
about how important security is. Yes, it's very important and probably the most important
that a system doesn't get corrupted. So you send the wrong messages and token that should
not have been minted may get minted. But it's also extremely important that you have a system which is live and it delivers
the messages when they are emitted and all the messages that are emitted and and that's something
we achieved here um lastly we also work with some risk management modules that's that's sitting on
on the side and monitoring the system in that that probably i later wrote my item and and if you put all these combined we
i believe we we set ourselves quite a bit apart from the existing uh infrastructures
thanks so yeah so go on i'm gonna say let's not leave you out
no but i mean patisha's blockchain has three components really.
One is that it is built for interoperability, so it's connected to the other blockchains.
The other is that it actually has MPC infrastructure.
The MPC infrastructure is exactly the type of infrastructure that you need to actually run the MPC Oracle that's going to be part of the God's network.
And then thirdly, it's also built for scalability.
It's built for fast finalization.
And finalization is sort of overlooked because in reality, finalization really isn't a problem as long as you're staying within the same blockchain.
Because if the transaction that you're looking at is actually
being rolled back then the other transactions is also being rolled back however it it can be a problem when you're going across this is the atm example right if you would deposit ten thousand
dollars through an agent or withdraw ten thousand dollars on an atm the atm machine in order to make
sure that it is not losing money uh wants to make sure that it is not losing money wants to make sure that it
actually waits quite some time to make sure that the transaction tips you send is fine and and
but you blockchain has speed of life finalization and it comes in very handy when you're doing this
type of cross network and we we needed that type of property in the blockchain network that we are running on top of.
So, partition blockchain for us was really, and then it was a natural choice. And then at the
end of it, I really want to also emphasize that we are now introducing the Bring Your Node, where
you can write a smart contract code that's actually going to be executed off-chain. And that is
exactly what you need with the GUTS network. so that really locked the decision in for us.
Perfect, thank you. And I guess that's a nice segue into God's network's the benefits to Patizia blockchain, and more specifically, MPC holders, node operators and delegators.
I hope not technical issues, and someone's just on mute.
Ah, sorry.
No, that was not a technical issue.
So let me jump into that.
Maybe it's going to repeat some of what we talked about,
but I think that's fine.
So what this is all about is to move data
across independent blockchains.
And every time we do that that's generate
an unchanged attraction on the particular blockchain so that's really the strategic
benefits you have more more use of the network you have more staking opportunities
and then it's all about the other side of this is to to extend the adoption and what you can use the
of this is to extend the adoption and what you can use the particular blockchain for and
this is where we get back to this webtree as a coherent alternative to web2 so if you come from
the outside and and wants to bring in like all of your users to to webtree to give them a more secure
and more controlled environment for online transactions.
You can actually go in here and it will not be necessary to select a single network.
You can go in and you can start building and you can tab into resources
that are sitting on the other networks out there and look at it as a coherent alternative,
which makes the decisions for moving into WebTree a whole lot easier.
So, and from the Patricia, if you have a Patricia blockchain application,
you can make that easily or more easily available on other networks as well.
So really what everything that we will do with MPC
is actually sort of amplified with this service.
And that's why we, or to some extent,
it's kind of completing the interoperability
that we started out with the BYOC bridging. Perfect. And we'll get into interoperability that we started out with the BYOC bridging.
Perfect. And we'll get into interoperability because I think there are a few components to
clarify there. In short, it's an amplifier, right? So more use of PBC, more staking opportunities,
more pretty much of everything is the intention. Is that right? Yes, it really is. Perfect. Okay, understood. And
Peter, I guess if you could go more into the on-chain activity, specifically what type of
on-chain activity does God's Network generate for PBC, public blockchain? Well, everything in the GUTS network
that needs communication around in the nodes that's running it
will happen through PPC.
So the PPC will get transactions
every time there's something that needs to happen.
And what is that something?
So the something that needs to happen is
that the service layer detects that there's a piece of data
that needs to be moved from one place to another.
Then that will trigger a transaction.
Now the Oracle will check, oh, there's a new piece of data that we need to sign off on.
So now every Oracle member will sign on on this piece of data.
And then lastly, we will compile and the execution that's going to happen on the destination chain and then actually send it to the destination so one for each data point that needs transmitting there will be at least one service layer
transaction and in divided by two-thirds oracle transaction that's the minimum amount of transactions
that will happen in each transaction that goes across GATS network.
And that's happened for everything.
So it's really pretty much every movement in the GATS network will trigger transactions on the public blockchain.
And to Kurt's point earlier, it actually opens up more opportunity across different ecosystems and networks and dApps, which should promote more transactions on the PPC chain, right?
Yes, the intent is to create transactions on PPC.
That's, I think, the primary driver for me.
Perfect. OK, understood.
And there's a I guess there's an element here around what the long-term vision is of PPC, which is data ownership and privacy-first data ownership, as well as interoperability.
How does God's Network really align with that vision? Kurt, Peter, maybe best to answer on that.
Yeah, I can give it a first shot and you can contribute. So, I mean, under Patricia
Blockchain, you can exactly control your data through privacy measures and that allows you to
get that user-centric web-free internet that we all talked about, but it's not really materialized because unless you can control your data,
it's not really a user-centric internet.
But that's what we get with the Batesa blockchain mainnet.
And with this interoperability, you can bring that to the rest of webtree.
That's the beautiful part of this.
So what it does when they subscribe, think about it like a double click on a smart contract, and then you subscribe to that.
So it might be like a sealed bid auction sitting on the particular blockchain, and you double click on that from Solana,
and then you get the feeds and you can know when to submit your bids and when it's closed and who's the winners are and all of that.
And all the security, all the management of the sealed bids
has been dealt with on the Patricia blockchain.
But you don't really experience that.
You just double-click or subscribe to that smart contract from Solana.
So I think that will be part of the user experience from this.
And I guess on trend, we're basically bringing Web2 users
and bringing this to a mass audience, right, to improve the UI and UX.
When are we able to see some of this in
action or yes and and i think maybe to mention one thing that we sometimes overlook the in terms of
the competitive edge of the particular blockchain so the the whole MPC and the large-scale MPC
cluster is providing that level of security.
So it's not just about
the privacy of the user's
data, it's also about the
security measures that is
the critical part in safeguarding
all of this
representation of data
with cryptographic proofs and all that.
So in terms of when this is live maybe Peter you can have something to contribute on this
yeah so I think there are a few technical issues but Peter it was it was around um
when when God's network will be live and when we'll be able to see some of this in action
when God's network will be live and when we'll be able to see some of this in
action.
for me?
Yes.
Yes,
please.
Sorry,
just to be clear for listeners out there,
Peter can't hear Kurt,
but we can.
Okay.
A few,
a few,
a few technical issues.
Again,
we'll have to add Elon after this,
I'm sure.
But Peter,
yeah,
please,
if you,
if you could.
Around when, when this will be live and when we can see it define life we are live on the testnet so we are actually live we really
want to we are solidifying it right now and making it into the structure and this also coincides with
us releasing the first versions of the
bring your node capability that allows us actually to program smart contracts
so that it can all happen in PPC so so what we have right now is demo that's
running on testnet I think I don't want to make promises behave that I'm not
myself gonna keep so but within the month, I think we'll have something solid running.
And then we can start talking about deploying it on mainnet.
So if you have an application that would like to have some sort of interoperability link using God's Neighbor,
contact us because we are actually ready to get it out rolling.
If you already have something you want to get out before Easter, DM me.
I'll figure it out.
So the bring your own node is a new thing that is has been which is really a way for us to sort of solidify what we have thought about how to build a blockchain network and how to build nodes in the blockchain network, how to build MPC and how to build oracles. We've actually taken that so that all users can now start to write off-chain contract code
that will be executing on that node and only on that node, making it possible for actually to write
all the GUTS network as a smart contract orchestration system that's completely on particular blockchain.
that completely on particular blockchain.
I love the fact we didn't miss the opportunity to plug, we're ready to build. So a reminder for
anyone listening there to get in touch with Peter around interesting gods network. We've mentioned
interoperability and I think a key distinction to make is around interoperability that's been mentioned for the public blockchain.
How does God's Network, from an interoperability standpoint, differ from existing Patissia infrastructure like BYOC?
Bring your own coin.
Yeah, so when we build Patissia particular blockchain we build it with the intent of building
a complete interoperable layer so and that's where has is what has ended up becoming the
bring your own coin so the bring your own coin allows you to use coins that's liquid on other
chains as a means of payment on particular it has already proven a lot of value for us because it makes us, how do you call it, Ethereum native.
We are not just some layer that's residing next.
We are also a second layer to Ethereum.
We are second layer to Binance.
We are second layer to Polygon.
We are already there.
So we are already easily accessible from other chains.
The thing about the bring-me-own coin is that it's also the means of payment.
So it's the means of payment on Partisia blockchain.
That means that the node operators are guaranteed to get the payment.
But that also means that the economics of the bring-me-own coin
is actually hardwired into the Patricia blockchain.
So Patricia blockchain has hardwired the money into the economics of the Patricia blockchain.
And that means that there's a very strong guarantees when you have a bring your own coin.
When you have something like Ethereum, you actually guarantee that regardless of what happens, the network is going to compensate you if someone's trying to cheat you.
Laterized, there are economic guarantees around what you're getting and that's not.
Network is trying to build what we built for bringing on coin, but build it outside of the economics, outside of the complete infrastructure of the future projectier project making it more lightweight making it more nimble i don't want to say less secure but it is not as uh collateralized as a bring on coin so you have a lower security it also in that sense it also means
that that you have to trust something different it's you're no longer trusting that there's a
collateral behind the bring on coin you have to trust something different. That means there's also a slightly different trust model.
So the trust model here is that the node operators are actually part of the security,
that the trust in the node operators is a key component in the security of this. It does have
the very strong significant advantage that now we can bridge any type of data.
There's no limitations of the type of data that we can move.
So all data that resides on Ethereum or Solana, whatever blockchain is out there,
we can actually start bridging it into particular blockchain and outwards towards all other blockchains.
Because now it doesn't need to have an intrinsic value.
It does not need to have an inner core component.
There's no specific properties around it.
It's just data and data can be moved from anywhere to anywhere else.
And we're doing that with the guards network completely.
Great.
And you've touched on some interesting points, which I think we'll
jump into more detail on. One being node operators.
I know it's been a hot topic basically within the community.
Matthias, who would a node operators be within the God's Network?
And maybe building on what Peter said around the distinction
for security and the node operation,
but how does that differ to what we have at
PBC currently? Yeah so in God's Network right it's not like a public
permission as blockchain it's more like a more closed system and in that sense
that operates on a public blockchain and the notes will likely initially be run by by partners by God's Network GN Solutions
itself because what's really important here is that that there's guardrails and and white
listing initially so we'll make sure that all the the messages they are they are secure when being transferred and we can operate under SLA's with these nodes.
And then the idea, maybe later on as the project evolves, to open up and receive applications
from potentially external nodes and see how they could get involved in the network.
Great. So I'm curious then, it's not opened up in that way yet, but there's an opportunity
potentially for node operators that run on Partizia blockchain to support God's network
once that opens up, right?
Well, it's not in the roadmap to have external node operators at the moment.
What I'm saying is that initially it will be operated by GN Solutions and partners and there will be some agreements in between that, like normal companies,
they do agreements and then there may be an opening in the future
to involve external nodes,
such as someone who is a node-a-read
on Partizia blockchain,
but again, it's not in the roadmap,
but as the project evolves,
we will see how we, of course,
can look into some of the Web3 values.
How can we decentralize it?
How can we work with a governance that's based on
on multiple parties and decentralization.
Got it, understood, understood. So
building on I guess the revenue model or the governance component, is there due to be a god's network token is that on the roadmap or
no there's no plan of issuing a token and i think that the nature of god's network is that it's a
business right so so there's a very clear path where adoption will generate a revenue stream
adoption will generate a revenue stream.
And that means the company and the protocol
and also the node operators inside,
or the GN nodes can earn a revenue based out of that.
And the revenue model.
So I think it was touched on earlier in the conversation
around the 75-25 split, and and is also available in the white paper.
Could you add clarity on what the God's Network revenue model is and how that's split?
Yeah. So when we say revenue or we say fees, let's just call it fees.
let's just call it fees right what's really important here to understand is that the fee
that a cross-chain d app developer will pay to the gods network is a fee that comprise of what
gods network need to pay in gas fee to for example operate the backend on partition blockchain
or to operate on some of the networks it integrates like Ethereum and Solana so
that's kind of a cost which is baked into this fee structure right so when you as a
cross-chain diap developer pay a fee a part of that will go to be burned as gas on partition
blockchain and some of the integrated chains then there's the
other part of the fee structure which is the revenue or the compensation uh for the company
itself g and solutions which is registered in switzerland and for the g and node operators
that's doing the work inside the the oracle? They provision some notes, they
subscribe to SLA, they keep the uptime they're supposed to and so on. And obviously there needs to be a compensation for that.
So the two clear distinctions, I guess, is the subscription
revenue model as a standard business would operate
and then the fee component for gas fees as well to pay attention to.
Yeah, exactly.
So as a cross-chain GApp developer,
if you're wondering what is underneath the fee I pay to use a Guts subscription,
you can think about it as I pay to use a Guts subscription, you can think about it as this.
I pay one part so the protocol can operate on public blockchains by paying the gas fees.
And there's another part, which is the compensation and revenue to the company and the node operators.
Got it.
Okay.
Thanks for the clarity there.
And this is all available in the white paper, on the website,
and any other channels for God's Network, right?
Yes, it's described in the pitch dig and the white paper,
which all can be found on the website.
Of course, this is like version one, roughly. So if there's something that's a little bit unclear, I think at some point we will open up more communication to the communities and questions can be asked. 100 perfect from the beginning as outlined in in the white paper and pitch deck uh particularly
on this part so there will be more everything everything evolves and needs to change based on
trends and and the actual operations as well so i think that that that would be understood for sure
uh thanks matthias i guess i'll move over into a different type of topic, and that's around management.
So the community have raised some questions around you guys, the founders, moving on to something new.
Can you clarify your ongoing involvement in Patizia Blockchain?
Kurt, Peter, I probably want you to fit.
I can do that relatively short. So as mentioned earlier, there's no funding from the Patricia
blockchain going to building the GN solution. But anyway, the GN solution is really depending
on the Patricia blockchain. I don't think there's any other way to look at this
than founders dobbling down on the public blockchain project.
And I think that fact is very clear,
not moving away from Patricia blockchain,
but building on top of it to even become more independent.
So it's quite the opposite than what was suggested
in that question, as I understood it.
Got it.
Yeah, sure.
And on top of that around transparency
in the operations of God's Network,
it's clear there's an overlap in terms of management,
but what's being done to ensure the right transparency is there
or the right governance?
Yes.
So, I mean, we want to move towards more inclusion of the community
and bring them in, or representative of the community,
bring people in as a recipient of the software that we're building.
And that also means that going through who was the people that was actually building this
and what was paid for building this and that.
And with that level of transparency, I think it's very clear that you have different areas besides track or tasks that is being carried out.
And you have different people working on these tasks.
And that's kind of what can be, what is internally audited and what could also be, and hopefully be externally audited by a selected member of the community.
So that's the plan in that direction.
But I think transparency is also a different story,
especially if you look at this service,
because if you look at all competing services,
there are none of them that is built on a public blockchain.
And I don't think, I have not seen any blockchain that has the same,
has the properties that we are there to build a solution on a public blockchain.
And I think there's a distinction, I guess.
There's been some conflation between positioning God's network as a chain,
or at least an interpretation of that.
To be clear, God's network's not a public permissionless chain,
but it's a service that benefits from building on top of one.
Is that correct?
That is absolutely correct. It's not a blockchain.
It's an Oracle service with a subscription data availability cooked into it.
And it's the first one of its kind that is, with this subscription,
push data to the users or to the subscribers.
And it's built on top of a public blockchain. So you have that full level of transparency all the way
to the transaction governing the whole solution.
So that level of transparency, you don't find that anywhere.
And that goes along with the level of security
where you have large-scale NPC.
And that's really the unique part that we are utilizing and one of the core edges to
any competitors in this field.
And there's a component actually on that topic around it being distinct from a public
chain, which is God's network isn't replacing dApps on PPC.
It amplifies it, right?
I guess it'd be good to understand a bit more context
around that relationship.
100%, 100%.
So it's all about, I mean, it's a bit like in the Web2 world
and beyond you have API and API economy.
So you have some of these interfaces where you know what to ask for and what to get from
services and you can connect your different services seamlessly using that standard.
That is a bit complicated in Web3 due to the decentralized nature of the different networks. But to some extent, you can say that this is the API for Web3
that enables applications to work together.
So it's really extending and again, using that word,
amplifying the outreach and the applicability of any DApps
on the Patricia blockchain,
but also on any applications
on any other blockchains out there.
So it's kind of a, to that extent,
it's kind of a major upgrade.
Yeah, I think it was important to clarify that part
because I do think there was different interpretations
for sure. Of course,
welcome any other questions from community members around this in Telegram and TG or
Discord or here on X. In the same vein of community members, we do have a request from
Manny. So I'll field a couple of questions now. And of course, we can in with respect
to time, we'll make sure we're available in community channels as well after this. So
Manny, I'll bring you up now. I have approved you. So hopefully you're able to speak. Hey,
Manny. Can you hear me? We can, we can. How are you?
I'm okay, I'm okay.
I'll try to keep it brief.
I'll be honest with you guys.
After listening to you, I really wish you guys take some of my feedback
that I've given numerous amount of times.
I honestly have just, I'm in a couple of partizia groups some of
the no-dops some of just normal investors and a lot of people are still confused of what actually
is god's network and i wish you had simplified it more i think you peter and kurt you guys need to
understand yes he's come from an academic background and you aren't really talking to a
bunch of crypto professors.
You're talking to some retail people and some people with basic understanding of code and
programming and you need to simplify things a little bit more. Then my second point is there's
still big uncertainty. Now, MPC is 99% down in value, so some people that invested in certain rounds, and it's
still not clear how MPC is really going to benefit long term.
I know there's so much fud around that God's network is going to have its own token, it's
not going to have its own token, so I really need you to clarify what's going on there
and how MPC benefits on the long term because people don't mind investing in projects
and their projects don't work out that's cool but what it seems like to a lot of people is
there's a lot of legal loopholes that the team are using and creating different offsets of companies
to enrich themselves and that type of fund needs to be tackled now maybe i don't know what's really going on myself because it's still a little i'm
confused honestly and i really think we really need to lead it one let me finish please i think
you just need to really clarify how long term will mpc holders really benefit because it looks like
the people that invested in mpc paid for the, paying for the devs, and it's not really coming back to them.
And that part needs to be clarified.
And I really hope you answer those questions and we can move forward as a community.
Because until then, you know, I just feel people are really, really disappointed.
Manny, so one thing, first of all, this is specific to God's network.
And I appreciate there's an overlap here, but I wanted to keep it specific to God's network.
We've discussed some of these topics directly, and this is a technical, complex piece of work here in infrastructure, and it's my job and the marketing team's job to simplify
this, which we will be doing. So you'll see more comms around this and you've seen that
we've brought more people in the team to address some of this. So rest assured, you will see
more of that going forward, but this is a technical complex project and we will simplify
those comms and listen to feedback in the community around that. When it comes to how it benefits PBC and MPC holders,
it's clear, more adoption opportunities, more transactions on chain.
That's a very simple approach from my perspective.
I'm happy to open this up to Kurt and the team now,
but I do want to keep this directed on on god's network in particular we can pick up other issues or questions uh on other topics i'm going i'll
jump off i'm not going to sit here and argue with you guys end the day it doesn't matter
uh great so i don't know if you want to address that. I need to make it clear that
when we have AMAs, we have them around certain topics. The community is open for dialogue
and conversation outside of this, but we'll stick to God's Network, which is what this
AMA is about. So, really, the technical components and how we will simplify that. And also just what the value add is to PPC.
I know we've mentioned it in this call,
but if we can just wrap up on that, I think that would be important.
No, but I think you sort of touched on the main point
that it's quite the opposite of moving to something else.
It's about doubling down and creating more adoption.
So what creates adoption is that then people start to build services
on top of the particular blockchain.
And that's what we are doing on top of building the solution itself,
the mainnet, and assisting anyone else to build applications
on the Patricia blockchain.
So this is a service that we haven't seen.
I don't think this compete with anyone else building on the network.
I mean, competition is always welcomed.
Competition is always welcomed.
So it's really just a service that is allowing Patricia Blockchain
and PC holders to tap into something that if we don't do this,
someone else will come in and do this.
Now we actually give Patricia Blockchain and the community
around Patricia Blockchain to tap into this quite significant
opportunity in the industry.
And I think that's one of the greater benefits,
and I don't think that is too abstract,
that having companies that is driving the next wave,
because there's quite a few significant benefits having companies that is driving the next wave,
because there's quite a few significant benefits from being able to activate data,
being able to allocate ownership
in a more secure way using blockchain.
Having these companies coming into a coherent web tree
is something that we have heard again and again
from large enterprises.
And you even see some of the large enterprises,
they're trying to build their own public blockchain
in order to solve this problem.
But they just make it even worse, in fact,
because you just create another security island
and do not create that coherent Web3 ecosystem.
and do not create that coherent Web3 ecosystem.
And now the NPC and the whole world and the community
get to tie into that opportunity.
And actually, you bring up an important point,
which is we, as Partizia Blockchain, operate a public chain.
So first mover advantage with God's network
puts us in a really interesting
position as an adoption driver, which I think is key to note that if we don't do it, there is an
opportunity for others to do it. And we see this as a key piece of interoperability and adoption
for the chain. Conscious of time here, but Cryptid, I can see you've got uh your hand raised so i'll bring you
to the floor and then we will wrap up but we'll be in the community of course to to field any
further questions so uh please cryptid when i bring you up can we uh field any questions around
god's network uh hopefully you can hear me and you can speak now hey cryptid how are you well
he can speak now hey cryptid how are you well hello you sir hey yes we can hear you how are
you oh good lovely i had a couple of questions thank you for the info one are there is there
anyone signed up to use god's networks i think there's a great deal of fear in the community
about this is just another experiment uh another use of funding and time
that's essentially taken away from the mpc token and p and partizia so i'm just hoping that firstly
is there are there people that actually signed up to use it and then my second question if we
are pushed for time i've got a full range of questions, is you've mentioned that this could be developed on Partizia, that it could be a node option add-on on Partizia.
So what's to stop you doing that?
I understand that it's going to take more time to do that.
But why not do that?
Because I think everyone's really concerned that there's no there's not enough structure in place that if god's network is a success there's nothing really to stop
the partitial aspect of it being jettisoned and there's nothing to stop people focusing all their
time on god's network and not the npc token So that's my two questions for now.
Thanks Cryptid. The two questions are, are people signed up to use God's Network?
So I guess we take them one at a time. Peter, Kurt, whoever wants to hop in there
is the best place to answer. Yeah Unfortunately, I think Peter also lost you.
I don't know what happens with this system.
Anyway, so, but first of all,
there is no funding from the,
from Patricia blockchain going to developing the Cuts network.
So, and all of the adoption is generating
utility on the Patricia
blockchain.
But Kurt, sorry, just one
thing is that people
are concerned because although if there's
no funding, people's time
is spent on God's Network when
if there isn't anything that comes out
of it, that time should have been
spent elsewhere.
So that's the concern.
Even if it's not monetary funding, people's time is being spent on it.
But we have plenty of time.
So it's not that it's taking resources from particular blockchain by any means.
It's just a way of doubling down and doing more for the adoption of Paticia blockchain. And it's really addressing a problem that we think is real.
And that's also why we do have, we cannot mention name
at this stage here, but we are signing up the first three, four,
five partners to work with. That is helping us making sure
that the first version addresses these quite different use cases. So yeah, I think that's
the state of the situation. Okay, and then secondly, are you convinced the ties are strong enough between Partizia
blockchain and God's network to not have at some point Partizia blockchain abandoned?
I mean, is there any reason why the MPC token can't be part of God's network?
It is part. So you're paying for transaction. You can use the MPC there.
The nodes will be used in staking.
We'll probably be using the wrapped MPC for staking on these nodes.
On the new nodes that are coming on to God's Network.
Exactly.
Okay, so they will have to buy MPC.
Exactly, exactly.
Yes. Exactly. Okay, so they will have to buy MPC. Exactly, exactly.
Yes.
And everyone using this would either have to pay with BYOC, so they would use the network
and bring in BYOC and generate fees that way, or they will pay or buy MPC and use MPC as
means of payment.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, thank you. Tap into, yeah, okay, good.
My other question though is following on that is,
what's to stop you running this within Partizia
as a node add-on for the Partizia node-ops
like ZK nodes, Oracle nodes are an add-on
and they decide to run it?
Well, effectively, we're also doing that.
That's effectively also what we're doing.
So I'd like to think that's exactly what we're doing. To a large extent, that's exactly what we're doing.
We're taking the infrastructure that is readily available
and using the bring your own node to extend the node capabilities.
We're just organizing it differently,
because if it was deployed by the same entity,
we would have regulation coming down on us.
If we had deployed by the same entity,
there would be stronger expectation on this being linked to the economic backbone of the particular blockchain.
But to a large extent, this is exactly what we're doing.
If you want to be an Oracle node,
you have to sign up for being an Oracle node on the particular blockchain.
If you want to be a zero knowledge node,
you have to sign up for being a zero knowledge node.
This happens in a smart contract. In God's network, you need to do a zero knowledge node, you have to sign up for being a zero knowledge node. This happens in a smart contract.
In God's network, you need to do something different because the trust model is different.
And then therefore you have to actually provide a bit of more information around who you are and what the services and trust can be expected of you.
So there are some differences, but in effect we are doing exactly that
okay understood
and some clarity then
NodeOps will have to buy
NPC tokens
you said that at one point there was going to be
an NPC token
but Matthias has said there's not going to be a token
the token use is just going to be wrapped MPC?
Yes, yes, yes. So for the staking of the nodes running the Oracle in the Guts network,
that would be the BYOC, the wrapped MPC, going in there, backing node operation,
like we do on Patricia Blockchain.
Very similar.
Okay.
The node that Matthias, or not the node, but the token,
that you could imagine you were creating another token, right? But as Matthias pointed out, this is really a fee-driven business.
So it's not going to be something that will compete.
It's just going to be this fee-based economy
and with the stake, which is quite similar to what we have today.
And it's subscription-based.
It's not going to be payers use it.
Yeah, it's both, I would say.
So that part is not completely scoped out, but the design is that you have a bit like when you do AdWords auction on on the
on Google you're buying paid search or you get at the top of a search by paying and participating
in auctions you put in that budget and then you you get a competitive price there. Yeah, you also could put in a budget and you just subscribe and receive data.
Okay.
And warning at some point to put in more.
And who's the typical customers you're going with
that would buy those subscriptions?
Can you give a sort of a, not a name, obviously,
but can you give me a theoretical example?
But I think the beauty of this is that a lot of these use cases
that we talk about in Patricia Blockchain
is actually also use cases that could benefit and do more
if they can do cross-chain.
So you can take DeFi protocols that we have actually built
to work cross-chain.
You can take identity DID solutions
where you have registers sitting on multiple chains.
You can take the case that Matthias mentioned on AI agents
where you have an agent,
maybe an agent is bidding on your behalf
or doing something on your behalf
and you need to feed that with data that is
that is secured and coming from other chains. Yeah okay and have you modeled all this out
to sort of establish how much node ops could actually earn partizia node ops so we're not going to get into a situation where
we've got lots of transactions running but essentially what they earn is dust and it
doesn't really make any difference you have modeled out that this will lead to like revenue
for node ops yeah i think the good part about this is that you have competing solution. I think we come in with a better solution that is more general to the matter of moving data around.
And you have competing fees that can sustain a reasonable business.
And have you got any example about overall what percentage of those fees
will be shared now with parties?
Sorry, I'm just going to jump in.
We take this last question and then we do have to wrap up
because there's partner calls that we're overrunning on.
So we will field other questions and comments on the Telegram group
and other channels.
But please, Kurt.
No, no, we will do more.
And this is also work with the projects
that we're bringing in as pioneering the solution.
So it's not easy for us to say much more at this stage.
OK, thank you.
I think Pitbull's got one more question.
Sorry, I'm going to end the session now. Just to be clear, this isn't the one and only opportunity to ask these questions,
and there will be more comms, future sessions, materials, etc. to clarify some of these.
So I appreciate all of your questions.
And actually a lot of the structure of this call was shaped around existing questions and comments from the community already.
So I don't want this to be the one-time one-stop shop to to get everything answered as
things evolve and change and also it clearly takes a bit more time to make sure that we
we're communicating all of this clearly so we will take other questions offline for now uh and just
thank you for your time and joining and listening
and I've got a direct link in to Pitbull
so I'll pick this up directly after the call
as I have seen his message
so thanks Cryptid
and thanks for everyone else that's joined
I guess a last message
from maybe Matias
on where everyone can find more materials
and maybe absorb this a bit more in their own time.
So a website, white paper, community channels, anything else?
Yeah, so right now it's a little limited,
but on the website, there's a link to a pitch thing and a white paper.
Then there are some social channels, telegram and so on.
We haven't really started it in there,
but that would be a good place to stay tuned.
Perfect, great.
And I think just a clarity at the end,
this is not a competing blockchain by any means. This is an adoption driver by allowing us to plug
into other ecosystems and share data in a secure way. It's also a transactions driver as well as
an interoperability play where we can pick up broader conversations on the partnership side. So
I appreciate that there maybe needs to be more comms and clarity around this, which we will roll
out. But I just wanted to touch on some of the points that have come up where there's maybe
conflation of ideas or interpretation. And really the key aim to simplify it is this is a data subscription service built on top of our Partizia public blockchain.
And it's really there to drive adoption, drive more conversations and plug the fragmentation within the Web3 space and those porting over from Web2 to Web3.
the web3 space and those porting over from web2 to web3 so i just wanted to end on that note to
hopefully add a bit more context uh around who we are what we're doing and and the intention for
god's network again appreciate everyone's time here and apologies we have to wrap it up we've
we've run over by half an hour already so uh we will pick up more conversations, have future comms, have future sessions, and make sure that everyone's
on the same page in terms of clarity and how we roll this out.
So thanks again for all of the questions.
Thanks for everyone who's tuned in,
and I hope you all have a great day.
Thanks, everyone. Have a good day. Bye.
Bye-bye.
