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Community call w/ Xstar
Recorded: May 22, 2025 Duration: 0:30:09Space Recording
Short Summary
Xstar is making waves in the crypto space with its innovative human verification tools and strategic partnerships, including a collaboration with Ontology. The upcoming Token Generation Event (TGE) and unique tokenomics of the Genesis card are set to drive growth and user engagement, reflecting a broader trend towards user-centric blockchain solutions.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. GM, GM everyone.
Happy Thursday.
I'm just going to give another one or two minutes to see if we can get some more folks to roll on in.
And also just to do a quick tech check.
Alex, if you can hear me okay, that would be a great start.
Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
Looking forward to hearing them.
Perfect.
Thanks so much.
It's always an issue with spaces, isn't it? Just wondering if. Looking forward to hearing them. Perfect. Thanks so much.
It's always an issue with spaces, isn't it?
Just wondering if it's going to launch okay.
Okay, great. We'll kick off in another minute.
Thanks so much, guys.
Yeah, awesome. No rush. No rush at all. Thank you. Okay, cool.
Let's kick things off. So, Antonauts and everybody that's new to the space, as I can see, a lot of new folks have joined us today. I appreciate everybody's time. And so we decided to
change the community call this week and have it on Thursday so that we could have Alex from XR
join us, which I'm very excited about. We've just started a new collaboration with these guys.
I'd recommend everybody to go and check them out. They're a really great team, super supportive to us.
So follow them on social and just make sure that you're getting involved
in everything that they're in.
Okay, Alex, let's kick things off.
Would be great to have an introduction to yourself and to Xstar as well.
Yeah, no, thank you so much for having us.
Likewise, it's really exciting to have a partnership with Ontology.
You guys have been around for so long and your experience is unmatched in a lot of areas.
So for my name is Alex.
I'm one of the strategy leads over at Xstar.
So for anyone that doesn't know what Xstar is, we're building out essentially a network of human verification tools.
So one of the biggest problems now is AI saturation online.
We've all seen it.
I guess a lot of people are getting sick of it. A lot more scams are getting more comprehensive and it gets kind of annoying,
especially when your mum calls you up and she's like, what's going on here? And you're like,
oh my God, that's a scam. Just relax, mum. So we're trying to help defend people against this
by building in some form of reputation and then leveraging blockchain to do this as well.
So that people that do show how human they are they actually get rewarded so i guess one of the biggest problems in traditional web 2 companies
they centralize all the data in silos and earn all the revenue and none of it goes back to the
the users which is us so we want to change that model and actually give money back to the to the
users for sharing their humanity that's that's essentially what we do so we're building tools
to do that.
Yeah.
Awesome.
And I think that that aligns so well
with everything that Ontology's been working on
for quite some time
when it comes to like Onto IT
and also the reputation system around Orange as well.
So actually, yeah, I know you just touched on it,
but could you share a little bit more information
maybe around the specific problem
that you guys are trying to solve in this space?
I know, look, everybody's,
it's so easy to get hacked,
which is so unfortunate, and it's a really big issue in the space.
So do you guys think that there was a specific,
like a good time to launch XTAR?
Yeah, look, a great question.
And I think one of the things that we love about ontology
is with the Orange Protocol and Orange ID,
you guys are doing some similar stuff around reputation system,
which is so important. So for us, we're looking at how we can sort of streamline the utility
of a humanity score and more than just proving that you're a human in quests so that if you
want to have a project that distributes rewards to real people or if you're in a quest and you
want to get rewards like they're not going to bots,
which is a massive problem development.
So that's a very small problem.
Obviously, you've heard of Humanity Protocol, WorldCoin, maybe Nomus, Idina,
a lot of these old civic-based proof-of-humanity systems. they centralise the data in a way where users can't maximise the value return.
So what we wanted to do is open up the token economics, decentralise it as much as possible to align with long-term community values.
So where we see this is in the adaptive humanity scoring system.
So most of these scoring systems are quite static.
They'll have maybe some form of off-chain, on-chain approach
where they're looking at sort of your Twitter accounts.
They're looking at sort of your wallet activity.
Then they might have some biometric overlay like a finger pulse
or a facial scan.
But the problem is having a reward system
where the XHS or the humanity scoring
is rewarded back to the users for sharing that information.
And it's more open and available.
And that data is not being stored in an insecure way.
There's a lot more security around where that data is stored.
So the data storage, making sure it's secure,
making sure the rewards to the users.
And then the third thing is making sure
that the information can be deleted.
So there needs to be more user control.
And at the moment, there's not much user control.
So we added in that users can delete any of the information
whenever they feel that they want to not have
that information available on the web.
Even though it's all encrypted, even though it can't be accessed by third parties,
the fact that it's still there, it makes people, especially DGNs like us in Web3,
makes us feel a bit uncomfortable.
So having that ability to delete it is a big, big turning point.
So those are the three main areas that we wanted to focus on solving,
three problem areas.
I think it's so great to hear when a project like yours
is considering the end user at all times.
Like if you ever come to community calls,
I do complain about the space quite a lot.
It doesn't consider end users.
I think there's a lot of issue
when it comes to UX and UI
and just how easy it is, right,
for somebody to use a platform.
So it's great to see that you guys are focusing so much on that.
And I think this leads us into our next question so nicely. So if we could learn a little bit more about XID and any more information you could share around your omni-chain identity system, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, yeah, that's so I think most people have heard of like ens and worldcoin um one of
the things we want to focus on is how we can increase the utility so existing domain name
providers in web3 there was this promise of what web2 domains offer and it's never really come to
fruition so we wanted to sort of change that and see how it's possible and whilst it's it's very
hard and the level of friction involved in creating a Web3 domain that's more user friendly
to the point of Web2, it's going to be a massive challenge
of the next five to 10 years.
There are some strategies in place that we've adopted
to try and make it easier.
So one of the things obviously the Omni-chain approach
using Layer 0 and Acceler,
which we'll probably talk about later,
that makes it a lot easier when bridging.
And then the second approach is making it
more integrations that make sense.
So we have an integration with BlockScout.
BlockScout for anyone that doesn't know
is one of the largest blockchain explorers.
And what happens there is you'll see next
to the 0x hash address, a score.
It will be gold, silver, or bronze.
And if it's gold, you mean that that's that account is
human or like 99.99%. So it's a trust score where bronze or silver is more like 75, bronze is above
50, where if it doesn't have a score, you're not sure. So it's kind of like when you're doing your
due diligence, you can kind of check that. So we wanted to add more utility around the reputation,
add this in to try and make it easier for people to use the identity across multiple
networks and actually see that it can be used with a reputation as well. Great, thank you so much for
that. And also, yeah, I think if we could learn a little bit more about proof of humanity when it
comes to XR's approach to that, I mean, we do chat about this quite a lot because obviously with our
connection with Orange, but would be really great to learn a little bit more maybe about what makes your reputation system or your proof of humanity system more unique, I guess.
Yeah, no, that's a good one.
The proof of humanity system.
So we looked at going back to this adaptive scoring system is one of the biggest challenges now with proof of humanity is the amount of user
friction so when a user wants to prove that they're human they have to go through a series of
all these uh checks and each one adds another layer of friction and like our community they
got sick of it and they'd like telling us this is ridiculous we want to just use the product
and we're like yeah we understand we know we know you're a human but we need to make sure we can we can check that so what we what we did is we added
a multi-factor system so it allows very simple so you can say just one social account like your
email like your twitter um we get a small score from that and then over time you'll be incentivized to add more um like more factors so you might add
in your discord account you might add in your email you might add in uh your firecaster and by
doing this we have the second tier which is the social graph analysis so we'll look at the activity
how many likes comments posts how old's the old's the account? Is the account verified? Have you verified yourself in certain Discord channels?
So all this sort of stuff adds up to a score.
And the higher your score, the more you're rewarded or incentivized.
And that's coming back full circle to the value system that we're putting in place.
We want to give as much value back to the user for sharing that information.
So the main check is the third part, which is the biometric check.
So similar to what you could say like Bumble or Tinder,
the same with UBS Bank, when they're checking KYC docs,
they need to scan your face, make sure you're real.
They do what's called a liveness test.
So you might have to move the camera back,
you might have to move it forward,
you might have to do some silly dance moves or whatever.
That's making sure that you're a real person on the camera back you might have to move it forward you might have to do some silly dance moves or whatever um that's making sure that you're a real person on the camera and it's the the tech behind that is actually quite complicated but just to make it quite simple what they do is they take
what's called a vectored 3d face map and that face map is fully encrypted uh it's stored, that encryption is stored, and then the hash can be checked every time someone goes
to use or any protocol tries to interact and check that score of that account, that hash will be
shown that yes, this is true, that person has shown that they are human. So that's the
biggest approach to proof of humanity. Thank you, Claire.
Thanks so much, Alex.
I'm really learning so much more about XTAR from this call.
And I know you and I have chatted a little bit.
If anybody has any questions outside of the call,
don't hesitate to reach out to myself or Alex.
I mean, I'll put you in touch with the XTAR team.
And as I said, just make sure that you're going to follow the guys on social
because they're doing a lot.
They're super active.
I mean, we have a campaign launch with them as well.
So I think it's a really great opportunity for you guys to learn a little bit more.
Alex, thanks so much for that answer.
So can we learn maybe just a little bit more about the XHS, the humanity score, and how it's calculated?
I know you've already touched on it, but maybe you can speak to that a little bit.
Yeah, I'll give you guys a bit of a quick overview.
So basically it's just to check how human an account is.
So every wallet, there'll be one human.
So one person, one wallet.
That's the idea.
And it's great for like DAO governance.
You want to make sure the governance isn't getting botted
so you actually have like a fair democracy
or fair democratic voting system, right?
That's one really good use case
So for us the way we calculate it is we look at human equivalent actions both online and offline
So these could be like biometric scans, eg face
They might look at your iris
And then there's like meeting people at a meetup or a loomer event
So if you go to like a web 3 like token 2049 for example, for example, you met someone face-to-face, right,
you kind of know that they're human because you've met them, right?
So you have like different scores based on each of these levels.
And then obviously the analysis of Twitter and Discord,
which we discussed, and the social graph analysis.
These are all things that add like a comprehensive scoring algorithm
to check that someone is actually human.
Yeah.
That's great. I think you just made it so much easier to understand.
So I really appreciate that.
So usually we have a lot of developers within the community.
Would be really great to learn a little bit more about some main benefits for
users or developers who might want to integrate or use Xstar.
Yeah. Awesome. And yeah, these are great questions by the way.
Again, yeah, if anyone has any questions,
feel free to shoot us a DM,
even though it looks like we have a lot,
we do talk to as many people as possible.
So we are open to as many questions as we can.
If any teams also want to partner,
please, please shoot us a DM.
We'd love to discuss in more detail.
But yeah, going back to the question
for developers
and users if look for us we're building an identity layer um for both ai and humans so we want to have
like agents and ais interact safely so there needs to be a difference between both because obviously
there's going to be both that do different actions um so for us we're building out a toolkit or a set
of tools that projects and users can both use
and developers can use to both protect themselves and their users against ai saturation and also detect what is ai and what is not by having proper labels in place for reach so in this sense we're
going to build out a standard an identity standard for web 3. And so it's great to see that Orange Protocol
and what you guys have done with Orange ID at Ontology
is a great example of how standards are starting to come into play.
So, yeah, that's what we're doing.
We've been working with teams like Ontology to build this out.
But, yeah, that's sort of our approach.
Yeah, definitely.
I think it's been a core focus of Ontology for quite some time.
I think we're going to be celebrating our eighth birthday. So, yeah, definitely an OG in this space, but always so happy to have new collaborations. I think it's just what helps to kind of grow a community and to make sure that we're still active. So I do appreciate the support that Xstar has given us.
So let's get a little bit back towards what we're looking at when it comes to cross-chain compatibility and omni-chain support.
Is there any information that you can share with us around how you guys support that?
Yeah, so the bridging layer or the cross-chain bridging layer.
For us, we saw that early on, a lot of domain name services were very silent.
They didn't actually have this option
to do like an omni-chain approach.
So what we wanted to do is we wanted to open it up
and have like 15 chains that a person can do
a batch transaction and actually connect
to all chains simultaneously.
So our old model, if you look back 2023,
when domain name service were starting to really pop
off is you'd have to go through each network one by one and do like a cross-chain approach
and that id would have to be transported or the the meta layer would have to be transported across
and there's different ways of doing this i don't know if people know how the bridging works but
there's like a burn and mint where on one on one chain they'll burn it and they'll go to the next chain
where they'll remint it.
But then if you go back to the old chain,
because it's been burnt in the past,
there's a memory because they kept some part
of the hash data or the metadata, I'm not a developer,
but that information is stored and they can mint it again
and know that it's the old metadata they transfer across.
So that's the burn and mint option.
And then there's a storage option,
which is where you store some part of the data
on the old network, you've minted on the new network.
And then on the old network, it gets closed off essentially.
And then that's not the technical term,
but essentially it's closed off so it can't be used.
And then the new chain, it works and it's minted and it works.
And then if you go to go back to the old chain,
you close that chain off. And then the information is open again on the the pre-existing chain right so that's
like it's like a faucet where you turn it on and off quite quite a unique way of looking at it and
there's two different ways so acceler uses the burn and mint and then layer zero uses the former
and we use both so we have laser and accelerate integrated and what happens is they allow users to batch
transact 14 chains at once and that provides a lower cost when you're doing these cross-chain
all the metadata information associated with that nft which is what the domain name is
is available on those 14 networks instantly and because we keep a library of all the domain names on any network,
we can avoid all the collisions.
So if someone has the same domain name on a different network
and they try to use that domain name on another network,
the domain name will work across networks,
but on the same network it won't work because there's a collision.
And we avoid that by making sure that our library keeps updated
with all the domain names that have ever been minted
and it avoids collisions by making sure there's no same
or no two domains of the same name on the same network
at any one time.
Yeah.
So it's a bit complicated, but, yeah, that's kind of how it works.
No, I think you gave a really good breakdown,
and I always appreciate when folks don't use the most technical terms when it comes to describing how something works.
Not everyone's a developer. I don't think I'm the most technical person.
So I always appreciate that. I also appreciate the fact that you guys are looking to lower costs for folks.
And again, it's one of my big complaints about this space is it can just be everything's just so expensive to run and to do.
So appreciate that. And something that we've been focusing on on any of these community calls where we invite collaborators on to chat about their projects is we always love to
know what's happening in their roadmap um if there's any insights you can share any updates
that are coming um yeah would be really cool to know yeah you made a very good point around costs
especially when the um the gas fees were so high tech upgrades. But, yeah, it's good to see now even with the tech upgrades
and the cost of gas are going down, there are further ways
at the protocol level that you can reduce the cost for the user,
which kind of has to be streamlined because we are competing still
with a lot of Web2 products and they are very cheap at the moment.
So there needs to be more innovation done on that.
But, yeah, great, great pickup.
Yeah, so coming back to the roadmap, for us in the next six months,
we do have a TG launch of XNAME coming up.
Our Genesis card is out at the moment.
The Genesis card, for anyone who doesn't know, is quite a unique approach.
We want it to have like a put option.
So in the future, if you believe the token is going to go up,
then you can actually exercise the put option.
So it's an NFT that gets burnt and then minted into a new NFT.
And that new NFT has a higher value than the former NFT.
I think it's about 20% higher.
But because you bought the Genesis card, you actually get a 40% discount on the listing price that you can exercise.
Or you can choose to sell the Genesis card without the exercise option on the market
for whatever trading value that it's trading at.
So yeah, that's just something we've launched.
Feel free to go check that out.
If you go to xname.app, it all comes up.
It's quite a unique approach.
But for us, TG, we're going to expand out the utility
of our XReward.
So XReward is a, it's like a quest as a service,
but we're focusing more on empowering communities
to earn from engaging on X.
So instead of doing a like and a reply
and getting some reward raffle in Galaxy,
you actually get rewarded for the engagement
that you produce directly from your X account.
So that's all part of the X reward system.
It's quite interesting.
So if you want to check that out, also worth it.
Partnerships, and we've got a couple of partnerships
with major ecosystems, obviously Ontology,
Bob and Goat Network.
We're looking for Bitcoin layer twos,
which we're excited about.
The X star ID is going to be expanded a bit further
and XHS is going to be constantly evolving.
So yeah, a few things, but I think that the tg and the extra reward campaigns are the most exciting
yeah tg is a lot um yeah it is a lot yeah you don't sleep much no i don't think so i don't
think you live much to be honest you just exist and then hopefully it goes well and then you
survive but um you touched on partnerships um would be great to learn a little bit more You just exist and then hopefully it goes well and then you survive.
But Alex, you touched on partnerships.
Would be great to learn a little bit more about any other upcoming partnerships, if there's any integrations or other ecosystem highlights.
Yeah, yeah, go on. So in the last, since the start of the year, we've had Sonium as one of our major partners.
So they're like a layer two network on the optimistic roll-up stack
backed by the Sony team.
Incredible team.
Recommend if you ever get a chance, try out the ecosystem.
It's very supportive.
So, yeah, we're going to continue working with them.
The other thing, obviously, you guys, Sontology,
one of the longest companies in the space.
You have an amazing, experienced team that we can work together with.
So we're excited for that. Again the stands with the orange id looking more into that together
would be really cool uh and then on bitcoin layer twos bob and goat network uh excited for and then
uh solana we've got some uh interesting uh tech coming out in solana in the next sort of one or
two months but can't really talk much about it.
Strict NDAs in place, which is annoying, but, you know,
such is life.
It's always the case, isn't it?
But we'd be more than happy to host you guys again for another community call catch-up on any of these integrations.
Yeah, we're going to have to host you guys as well.
Yeah, we've gotten some really good feedback from the community
that they enjoy these intro calls.
I think it just highlights to them that Ontology is still working on trying to grow their ecosystem and that we're engaging with other projects.
So I think it's always super beneficial.
I only have one more question for you today, Alex.
But if there's any other updates you'd prefer to give, I'm totally open to that.
But maybe you could give some insight into everybody on the call today about how we could get started with xstar.id. If there's anything that we should be doing in particular, any platforms we should
be following or how we can engage with you guys. Yeah, great, great question. And I just noticed
there's three questions from your community as well that I'd love to dig into after this. But this but yeah so the the question about how you can get started uh xstar or xname.app so xname.app
that's our active web 3 website everything's there we have a lot of rewards ongoing at the
moment specifically with uh one of the largest meme coin launch pads on binance um there's about
a thousand dollars worth of meme coins up for grabs.
So that reward is, that's on our X reward platform.
It's a lot of fun.
But apart from that, the best way is just to keep updated
on our socials.
So if you have any questions, you can go to Discord.
We're pretty active.
Or if you want to just see what we're doing,
our X account is quite active on the the on the daily so yeah looking forward to
it and then regarding sort of there's like three questions i noticed do you mind if i are if i
answer some of the questions yeah please feel free yeah go for it cool cool so selman uh you said when
launching mainnet so we have mainnet launched on 15 networks already so that's like sonium optimisms aka sync metis
and a few others i won't go through but then we are launching bob and goat network over the next
month so goat network has already launched on mainnet that'll be in the next probably hopefully
week or two uh and then bob will be uh when they launch their test net hopefully in a month
and then there's another reply from Ugzan Tuvank,
I'm guessing he's Turkish, great name.
Where is the code?
So the code, if you go to our docs,
so if you go to xstar.id, there's a link to our docs.
All the information that you need
is available through our docs.
So yeah, definitely go check that out.
And the last question by the CBN, when is the TGE?
We're thinking about next four weeks,
but it depends on our sex listings and who we sign.
So we've got a couple of sexes
that we're looking to partner with.
So that's all coming to fruition,
hopefully in the next month,
but that'll be kept updated on our X account.
So feel free to keep updated there.
Yeah, no, thanks.
That's great. If the community has any other questions, feel free to keep updated there yeah no thanks that's that's great if the
community has any other questions feel free to just uh drop them in the in the comments awesome
alex thank you so much um i've really enjoyed chatting with you today i enjoy chatting with
you all the time you know i probably all day that's my biggest problem i say that all the time
i always have to be very strict with my timing so that i don't just stay yeah i don't want to call
for ages but um as i just want to reiterate to everybody um it's a new collaboration with Xstar we currently have a campaign active
there's an ONG there for you guys to earn um I would just love for you guys to interact more
and then also just make sure you're following everything that Xstar are doing um yeah I mean
I've dealt with their team quite a bit over the last few weeks and they're super supportive so
if you've any questions don't hesitate to reach out and also you can reach out to me as well um if you've any questions i can put
you in contact with the team but this this is just an intro chat um i think we're going to plan
probably another ama where we can deep dive into a lot more stuff we'll bring in orange protocol
as well so we can learn a lot more about reputation systems um and all the ids that are available oh yeah nice great idea that'd be fun
quite good yeah so look i appreciate everybody's time alex i know you're so busy i appreciate you
coming on today to tell everybody a little bit more about xstar of course no i love always talking
to the community directly it's a lot of fun get to see their comments hopefully we get some juicy
comments i love when they get really juicy juicy comments's interesting. Juicy comments. It's so good.
I tell you what, some of the comments you get,
they're, oh man, they're super juicy.
Yeah, I love it.
Love it.
Absolutely love it.
Yeah, guys, feel free to ask any juicy questions.
Make sure they're juicy.
Alex, thank you so much.
You're welcome.
We'll wrap up the call today.
Guys, I won't be doing the community call tomorrow
but I'll be back next Friday
and we're going to do an update
and then you're going to see
more stuff coming from us
over the next few days
we've got a bunch of campaigns
that are live already
and then we're going to be
launching more campaigns
as I mentioned earlier in the call
we're going to have
our 8th anniversary
so we're going to be
8 years old
it's going to be a big deal
I'm really looking forward
to everybody getting involved
yeah Alex
thanks again for your time
really appreciate it.
Oh, man, welcome.
And happy birthday, eighth birthday.
That's exciting.
We'll get a cake, light some candles.
It's very old in this space, isn't it?
It's really, yeah, crazy.
You might as well be 90-year-old to 100-year-old man or woman at this point.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a beautiful.
Thanks so much.
It was lovely to talk to you. Likewise. See you guys.
Speaker
XSTAR
from
Star Protocol
