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Community Hangout
Recorded: May 1, 2025 Duration: 0:55:51Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent community hangout, the team discussed strategic partnerships, the upcoming Mainnet launch, and the potential for revenue generation in the zero trust security sector, while addressing concerns about token dilution and the importance of GDPR compliance in the evolving crypto landscape.
Full Transcription
Hélon hey lon
hey john let me give you the right to speak
now none should be able to speak as well.
Hi, Robbie.
Hi, John. Can you hear me as well?
I can.
Hi, Robbie. Hi, Josh.
Hey, Lon.
How is everyone?
Doing well. Couldn't do well. Okay, great.
I think because we had a holiday today, which is called in English Labor Day, but I don't
think that it's the same in America, right?
Well, you have May Day, I think, which is a wonderful Marxist celebration.
We have Labor Day, which is not a Marxist celebration. We have Labor Day, which is not
a Marxist celebration, allegedly.
Okay. Learned something
new today.
Who's the
CEO of Instagram again, John?
How would I
know? Well, I guess, isn't that
a Zuckerberg thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just wanted to refresh the memory as well from a few spaces ago.
Oh, no, I have never been on Facebook, I have never been on Instagram, so I really
have, I'm a Luddite, I'm afraid.
Yeah, which is perfect, like I'm not much on social media either, except for X then, obviously.
Yeah, I mostly lurk on X. I don't speak much, but no, I'm a very quiet, shy guy.
Just browsing the internet.
I'm too old.
The social media stuff passed me by.
Oh, come on, Lon, you still look
28 to me.
You're looking at an old picture.
That's
the secret. Never change
your profile picture.
All right. Mr. Stephanie is probably joining as well um hi lexa fix uh
thanks for joining as well hope you hope you're doing well uh brave i sent you a request to be
a speaker i'm not sure if you received it hey brave
hey brave
maybe if has a bad connection hey golden hope you're doing well thanks for
joining again you're sounding very clear Robbie you must have gotten your
technology worked out I guess so I'm pretty tech savvy you know oh yeah well okay are you on instagram
uh i i do have an instagram account yeah i do but i have like 160 followers you know like
only family and friends wow family yeah if i had four friends i'd be happy
but you have stephanie john it's fine that's worth a thousand that's true
let me quickly
so yeah like
the so this evening
I mean this space is going to be more
of a community hangout
we've
asked the community to fill in a form
with the questions that they have,
if they have any.
There were a lot of questions that came in,
actually.
Oh, okay.
So, I don't know,
is Stephanie on her way?
She was supposed to be here.
She must be having technology problems.
I can go down and have a look.
I'll go see what she's doing.
Okay, great.
Thanks.
Thanks, John.
Did I promise?
Real-time text report.
Oh, there she is.
Hey, Noor.
Nice to see you again as well. Okay me give stephanie the rights to speak stephanie can you hear us
everyone great we can hear you as well which is awesome
ah yay things go right for once. How's Robbie?
I'm doing fine.
I'm doing fine. Excited for the space.
That's every week.
I'm on.
Yeah.
Hey everybody. Good to see familiar faces.
John just came and checked on me to make sure I was on.
So as I said,
the community had a feeling of form to ask us some questions.
Yeah.
Are you guys ready to dive into them?
Yeah.
Always accountable.
Okay.
I have so many tabs open here.
Let me just quickly...
Oh, no.
I'm back from my retrieval mission.
You did well, John.
You did well.
Yeah, don't leave any geek behind.
Never.
Yeah.
Okay. Oh oh I see
sorry for the delay
no problem
how's everybody
I'm gonna send out a hello
hello
I've already done that
yeah you're late Stephanie that's not your I've already done that. Hmm? I've already done that.
Yeah, you're late, Stephanie.
That's not your...
That's not what usually happens.
No, I know.
I had my reminder on, and then it...
Okay, I got the question.
All right. All right.
All right.
So we did have a lot of questions coming in, though, which was great to see.
Okay.
So let's go over one of the questions.
So one of the questions is, too many tokens are being released and diluted via
the marketing wallet
approximately 3 million in the past 30 days
at this rate you will run out in the next 10 months
what are the future plans
when will you stop diluting your own
supporters
little salty
okay
well the answer is too many tokens. Well, too many tokens is a relative term.
What we have done, and those of us who have been around for a while know that we did staking continuously for the first few years, and we listened to the community and dropped that this year. So we have reprioritized the way
that we're using the marketing tokens. And as you know, and as you can see, we've been doing a lot
of different things in marketing. So at this rate, you'll run out in the next 10 months. Well, we'll see.
It's a very dynamic process.
John and I are economists, so we're always watching to optimize.
I don't expect that to be true.
We'll see.
What are the future plans?
I don't know what you mean about that.
I think that our future plans are to continuously build.
We have token uses that are approved for getting some of these applications and businesses that will build on geek off the ground.
When will you stop diluting your own supporters?
That's a harsh question.
I take it at its face.
I understand.
I take the point.
We monitor the wallets from time to time, and a lot of our supporters are really staunch supporters.
Really appreciate you.
The number of people who have held on through our slower times have been phenomenal for a project that is this long.
phenomenal for a project that is this long.
And I think for those people,
they understand that you have to spend money to make money.
And that's what we're planning to do.
We're using the tokens for productive purposes.
And we hope that that will pay off for everyone.
And that's my answer to that.
Great. I think it's a great answer. and that's my answer to that great
I think it's a great answer
I mean at the end of the day
if I can pitch in as well
like I've been in crypto for a long time
as well
and I mean
there's been
projects
not building
anything and doing really weird stuff with their funds, you know.
And as you say, you and John are economists.
Like, I mean, I don't take these things lightly either.
You're true professionals and you look at where to optimize things.
And yeah, I mean, marketing costs money.
There's no other way around it, you know.
It's simple as well.
Life isn't free.
Nothing's free, Robbie.
Sad but true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, yeah.
We'll keep an eye on it, but this is really the time we transition from build, build, build to must-have marketing.
Yeah.
Okay.
First question done.
Next one.
Pretty...
Okay, let's go for it.
How big is the wealthiest
geek partner
I don't know
I can't answer that and even if I could
I probably shouldn't
but I simply can't
answer that
yeah
agree but I simply can't answer that yeah agree
okay
more for us though please
wealthiest geek partner please reveal yourself
yeah
yeah
one of the next questions
is what kind of
activities are in geek labs
at the moment
that's a great question and I don't know if other team What kind of activities are in Geek Labs at the moment?
That's a great question, and I don't know if other team members want to take this one.
I will preface it by saying the biggest user of Geek Labs right now is Geek. We are preparing some activities that we're going to say about that today
robbie would you keep it keep track because i i don't actually have my screen visible
yeah sure don't worry don't worry about it i don't see any emojis popping up
Don't worry about it.
I don't see any emojis popping up.
Yeah, Brave is here, right?
Brave is here, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a speaker as well.
OK, GM everyone.
So on that question, I just wanted
to add a little thoughts to what Stephanie already said. So this month, like we already said before, and we are saying that again, this month we have plans for developers.
are going to be a lot of developers joining the project so this is part of the plans that we have
for the geek lab so uh i think tomorrow we have we have a video that updates that will be so in that
video we are going to explain more about our plans so what should the Geek Lab, just look out for that video. That's just it.
There you go. There you go. I think, Robbie, you can vouch for this, right? We don't do off the cuff. We're always planning and doing things
to time
what we're doing
so it coordinates
with the rest of Geek's plan
and sometimes we look
at the market
to see if we should
launch anything.
This has been in the works
for quite some time
and we're very excited about it.
Yeah, true.
And I mean, at the end of the day,
timing is important as well, right?
I mean, so delivering, building something, first of all,
something sustainable and delivering it at the right time as well, it's important.
Yeah.
And we use the right tools to follow up on everything, etc.
So it's working great.
Yes. Yeah, I'm excited.
Okay. Ready for the next one?
Sure.
Let's go.
I feel like I should win a prize at the end of this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Okay, so, oh, interesting.
Do you still collaborate with Jam Capital?
Oh, interesting.
The answer there is really easy.
They were a financing deal, and they're very hands-off.
So no, we're not actively collaborating with them.
I'm not sure that's their style with them.
But in any case, that's a simple answer.
It's a simple answer.
Okay, great.
Okay, great.
Next one.
What kind of activities are you working on with robots and new Boston technology?
Great question.
Robot are some of my favorite people in the tech space.
people in the tech space. They were doing LLM before, large language models, before I heard of
anybody who had anything serious. I think I've spoken a little bit about their data technologies.
Let's see, it's not called a data lake. It's not called a data fabric fabric but they have the ability to put labels on data from
different data sets that are really just really a mess for example one of the things that they've
done is they've looked at banking data.
Robbie, I don't know if you were around for this conversation.
I think Lund was where in the U.S. there was a period of consolidation and small banks were bought by larger banks and they were bought.
bought by larger banks and then they were bought um and i think one number that sticks out to me
is that there was a small bank that went through 14 acquisitions i know it's just outrageous and i
think it ended up at bank of america at the end of the day right one of these large banks. But the issue there is that someone who was an original customer of
one of the banks along the way would keep having to repeat or have their data missing or, you know,
these banks wouldn't integrate with the little banks. And so there were all these layers of data that were kind of untouched.
And one of the things that Robo was able to do was resurface the kinds of data that were attached to a single customer.
So they're able to do it without requiring integration, you know, at the 14th level all the way back down.
And that's an incredibly powerful ability.
that we also don't want to ask people to integrate and integrate across systems.
So our next conversation with Robot, and I hope it's a, I'll just tell you what it's going to be about,
is about thinking about how to protect some of these projects that they're working on,
where they're identifying, let's say, a bank customer that's dealing with sensitive data.
That's their financial information.
There are huge penalties coming that are already in place for mishandling sensitive personal information. And as people know that John and I and Len have been working for several months now
on ways to protect personal identity.
And so I would like to meld those two sides together where they have a way to get to the
data and we have a way to protect
the person. So those are my thoughts on robot right now. We haven't been working
side by side lately, but I think there's a real possibility where Geek ID would be a very useful,
a very useful it would be a great application uh just to speak a moment on that um i actually have
it would be a great application.
some time scheduled with their cto to to talk further so it's a preliminary talk but i'm quite
excited about the possibility of using geek id and and i hope that they they will be as well great that's great yeah they're um uh yeah they they have dealt with some really
messy data let me tell you and and they do it very cleanly so new boston technology um is for those
of you who don't know they are the oldest um startup community in the Boston-Cambridge area in Massachusetts.
I've now become nice friends with the people who run New Boston Technology.
They're really wonderful.
If you are a startup founder out there, follow them.
follow them. They're very welcoming.
They're very welcoming.
And we've been talking about
providing FTs
for some of the contests that they run.
They have, I think, startup.
Oh, it's May already. So follow them and figure
out how to get involved in their startup community.
Let's see.
Well, that's it.
Are there any more?
Yeah, there are some more questions.
Okay, next one.
An important one, which we've been hearing a lot.
When Mainnet? Ohnet oh yeah of course um
of course um well I mean our answer is up the same we're working toward it and
it will be released when we feel confident about it. I think that after all these years,
we see the goalposts in sight.
This year, my thinking has really started
to coalesce around the things that we need to have
when we launch Mainnet,
and that includes community awareness and devs working on building
applications it's one thing to think about getting our tech done and release it but if a tree falls
in the forest and there's nobody using it i don't i don't know the way to end that analogy, but you know what I mean.
So we're really working on the community and the apps and the dev attention to have a robust kernel, if you will, for mainnet.
And we've also been working on the must-haves because there are a lot of things that Geek can do.
And we're all, the core team is excited about all those things,
but we know that the greater population won't appreciate
all the things we can do, stacks for one thing and so where we've
been going back and forth about what should be the minimum set of
requirements to get mainnet out earlier rather than later and when mainnet is
again partially a balance of those things,
marketing and timing.
But we're working on it.
So, yeah, if you've been in our Telegram,
that's always been the answer,
except now there's more variables.
Yeah, and I mean,
I'd like to add,
because you mentioned community,
and I'm going to give the word to OB later on as well,
to give her a chance to talk about her plans for the community as well.
Awesome.
Yeah, there are some questions left, though, Stephanie.
Okay.
Next is, can you expect to have some revenue from your products in the near future?
So that's really interesting because I've been working on go-to-market.
And I think there is a path to paid pilots in really in the area of zero trust security, which is where I've ended up focusing.
And then what I'd like to do is do those and start with pre-sales.
So this is, again, it's an issue of attention from the devs.
from the devs.
You know, honestly, it's partly how much do we put on mainnet
versus how much do we put on these kinds of revenue sources.
But, yeah, I think that's definitely become part of the strategy.
that's awesome
That's awesome.
okay so the next
teen how far in the future are you planning
I think we all need to go on vacation and I think that's a way
that's still way off about three years
I think I'm still way off. About three years.
I think I'm thinking about three years.
Okay.
I'm just going to ask a question.
Is there a reason why three years?
Or like where did the number come from? The number comes from I have a really clear plan about the next two years.
And then I have goals, I would say, for after those two years, which will take us well into the future.
But I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch.
So that's why I chose three years.
Yeah, no, that's why i chose three years yeah yeah
but we do need a vacation robbie you and john and i and brave well so so maybe in three years
sounds like a plan okay first things first yeah first things first
okay next question can we expect some info about funding of the project?
Short, but I was about to say sweet, but okay.
Short.
Short.
Short, yeah.
It's perfectly fine, obviously.
Then let's see so we have one question
left
then we can give the word
a bit to Obi
for her to chat a bit about
community and the plans
that she has
maybe Brave can give a short introduction as well
so here we go for the last
question, Stephanie.
Sorry.
How many trillion or billion
dollar companies have shown
interest in using the private geek
blockchain? Okay, who said this in?
I will have to be honest and say no trillion or billion dollar companies that I know of have shown interest.
And that's because they don't know us yet.
But actually, they should.
Robot, as an example, is not a billion-dollar company.
But they were the ones that got at least me thinking about these questions of identity and accountability.
And they described problems, which were very common within their banking system. They had to transfer information. And these were kind of trusted transfers.
But it turns out that even though they were trusted transfers, they were completely unaccountable
and things got lost. And then you didn't know which internally trusted person was
a screw-up and you know that's that's that's equivalent to having untrusted people so even
in that ideal situation they didn't have an ability to to know that a handoff had taken place
to have a way of of confirming where something was in the process and if something
got lost and really who was taking up the object at the other end because they were
opaque.
They were silos.
You sent something to this division and then that division gave it to somebody somehow, some
way, in some form, according to some algorithm internally.
But there was no external accountability or transparency there.
So really, that was our starting point.
But these are problems that billion and trillion dollar companies have, you know, writ big, because the bigger you are, the harder it
is to know who you're dealing with and how things are under control. But also the liability is hard.
You can't sue a small company for a lot of money, but if you have Bank of America screw up,
well, that's a honeypot. Not to pick on Bank of America.
I'm kind of happy to pick on Bank of America, quite frankly.
But that just happens to be.
That's a personal issue, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd like to chime in on that because I think it's a question that is something that we have solved that is going to become a tremendous problem in the sense that GPDR has huge fines for messing up on the privacy of and data governance of these kinds of data transfers and data use.
AI is going to, I'm sure, have problems about what AI is using,
and it's going to be really hard.
I was listening to somebody who was talking about AI Bill of Materials,
which tries to keep track of what data has gone into the AI and trying
to roll back.
In open source AI, you publish the model and then somebody else uses it and embellishes
it a little more and so on and so on.
And if you don't know what happened at the second stage, all your models
might be wrong, right? So the issue of where that data came from and who owned it and how far you
have to roll back all involve ownership. And just to conclude this little insight which I think is is
key most blockchains just record what happened so they say put it on
blockchain okay so you put it on blockchain and it's written to a block
and and they think that's done and and clearly that has not solved much.
And what John has done has said, put it on blockchain as a tokenized asset.
And now we know not only where it came from, but also we know that it was an asset owned by an account. So when it goes into, let's say a model,
or into someone else's hand in an institution,
this ability of ownership and liability,
because we're following transfers of assets
from account to account, that is useful.
And I think that's one of the reasons why
Geek blockchain is, has so many applications,
whereas someone just saying, well, put it on chain,
it doesn't tell you a whole lot more than a log.
What we're doing does.
So I would add a little bit to that if I could.
So it is true that there are ways that you can tokenize these things.
And that's, you know, Lund's idea about counterparties as NFTs that move with mutual consent is a good example of that.
And that's really useful and nobody else does that.
But actually I think that the more fundamental thing here
is the flexible architecture of having these ad hoc,
but provably attributable credentials issued,
these identity NFTs. So is this is a this is the
sort of secret to keep of where things happen without having to go into some
rigid structure that somebody has to take care of and you don't really want
to let people see into you can't let people screw with your with your
permissioning table and you really don't
even want to let people see your permissioning table yeah you can just you you have it out there
it's public no one can deny it everybody can see it except they can only see what they need to see
and they can only see it when they need to see it so it creates that it's it threads this needle, which I think is the reason that we're coming to the point of,
you know, there's that mathematical poem that all Eddies have smaller Eddies is a fundamental
philosophy and smaller Eddies have smaller still and so on to viscosity. We're reaching viscosity in terms of security. It's so hard to prove who you are
and to make sure that only the right people get access that sometimes people just give up and
you have a lot of false negatives, people that should be given access that aren't because it's
simply too hard. That's what we're trying to solve. We're trying to make a non-viscous, highly lubricated, frictionless type of permissioned access
without destroying the security and the accountability.
So that's where we fit.
And that is the thing that is going to, I think, be the stumbling block, really.
It's the thing that is bottlenecking technology and e-commerce.
Because if you can't let the right people in and you can't collaborate between agencies that are not otherwise trusting, you're really, really limited.
And so anyway, that's what we're trying to do. So everybody should use us because we've got it.
I have a really good example of that. Can you guys hear me?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Okay, great. There's someone I know who works for a major university and it's associated with
a hospital and medical center and they do a lot of research.
And there's all this data that exists.
But when someone from another department requests the data,
it costs them a tremendous amount of money to do so.
Because you basically need IT to move the data
and prove that it's being handled properly and so forth.
And so the cost of that is so high that a lot of research doesn't get done because the
data just, it doesn't ship.
There's so much inertia.
It doesn't really get to the right places in a lot of cases.
So I think if there was something like GeekID that's available and you could reduce that
friction of securely sharing the appropriate data, you'd get a lot more value out of the
system.
So we could not only can we help with accountability, but we can also kind of help unlock value
as well.
That's a great example.
Yeah, we're pretty, we're pretty, this is cutting edge.
This is, this is, this is very exciting.
And by the way, for people who don't know what GDPR is,
it's something enforced by the way, for people who don't know what GDPR is, it's something enforced by the
European Union.
So it's actually a big deal because any company that wants to operate in the EU has to follow
GDPR.
So it's not just some abstract idea.
It's basically anybody needs Google, Apple, anybody needs to
follow it.
Yeah.
Robbie, who is in
Europe, says, yeah.
That in itself is just
every time you have to go and say, what are your cookie
preferences? Good God.
I mean, it's
I mean, I understand it, right?
But what a pain.
What a mess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does reduce friction.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
I blame you, Robbie.
I think you had a lot to do with it.
Robbie is the nicest.
Robbie is the nicest.
It's okay, Joel.
It's okay, Joel.
He must be out there doing something bad.
They put me out of electricity a few days ago for the whole day.
Well, I hope you learned your lesson.
Good times.
Okay.
Yeah, so we went through
all the questions thanks Stephanie for
your
answers
like Brave
maybe I don't know would you like to speak
first before we give the word to
oh I see she's not in the chat
in the channel anymore to
Obi oh she's back
well maybe Brave can introduce Obi yeah chat in the chat anymore to Obi. Oh, she's back.
Well, maybe Brave can introduce Obi.
Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
This call is Obi since it's a community hangout. So I'll get to introduce her. So as we all know, Obi is our new community manager.
So this is actually her first call with us.
So Obi, can you request the mic and come from stage
and introduce yourself to the community properly?
Yay, Obi!
Yay!
I did ask her to accept,
but maybe there went something wrong,
because the same happened with Brave.
Can you hear us, Obi?
Can you show a sign of life in emoji?
And we have Lexifix and Emmy Wind
and Nir also
who are stepping.
Luxury,
Defeking, Robles,
Emmy.
Okay, there's Obi.
Yay. Hi, Obi.
Obi, the floor is yours. She has a relationship with her connections.
Look at the respect.
Such respect that nobody is speaking, waiting for her to speak except me so I'll shut up
of course technology
doesn't work either even if you have trust
she's having some issues
with connection
don't sweat it
we just chime in She's having some issues with connection. Okay. Don't sweat it.
Just chime in, Obi, when you get it connected.
So today is May 1st. Happy May 1st, everybody.
Cinco de Mayo is the next holiday, I believe.
And what else is going on?
Brave, what else is going on?
Lan?
Yes.
Yeah, I think Goldin and Zoli asked about whether we have plans for developers.
So, Goldin, I would like to let you know that this month we are going all out on that.
So, I also get to reach out to Akeem because he has been asking about that as well.
So I think that's definitely something that we are doing and also uh we'll showcase should i let the cat out
out of the bag stephanie about the show sure we're working on yeah all right so um also uh we are
having some kind of i think uh lon is here with us learn would you like to talk a little bit about it
um the showcase that wants to kind of display for the community?
So Brad, you're referring to the application
that I'm putting together?
Yeah.
Yeah, so I just started, first of all,
I think probably a lot of people have heard
about live coding and so I've been looking into it. And it's,
it's actually quite a big field right now, because there are lots of different options from,
you know, by coders for by coding for hardcore developers to by coding for for people who are
no, not developers, so low code, no codecode platforms. So I've been diving into one or two for my own purposes,
and I'll be using that in the showcase to create an application
that just uses a basic functionality in Geek of attestations.
I don't want to let it quite out of the bag.
I'm going to leave some marketing thunder for you.
So maybe suffice to say, I'm working on that application as we speak,
and we'll be able to have a video for the developers to see how easy it is
to create an application that uses Geek.
Yay!
Yay, one!
Yeah.
You know, since I used the soundboard.
Yeah, no, we're lucky that we're lucky.
But, you know, I think what's exciting to me is that the world really has changed on
the developer side so dramatically in the last few years.
And very recently, it's accelerated.
So of course, everyone knows about ChatGPT and how much it's already affecting the world.
But specifically for developers, there's Vyde coding, but there's already affecting the world. But specifically for developers,
there's Vyde coding, but there's just coding in general.
Basically, AI is augmenting coding
and letting developers be more productive.
And there's so much that,
I can't get into all the details now,
but effectively, all the developers are accelerated.
And especially for something like a proof of concept or smaller applications where the
elements can really help you quite a bit.
So what I see happening is that the cost of generating applications is going to continue
to be reduced.
And the more effort that's put into the tools for developers
and having these large language models or AI be more and more fluent about the code,
being able to understand a code base and recommend changes
or to implement the changes themselves,
all of that will drive down the cost of developing software.
And in that context, what comes to fruition is that services like Geek, where we're providing
some fundamental value frameworks to the developers, are going to be used more and more because it's so much easier to
develop various applications. And we're kind of an underlying technology that we can
provide to many, many different types of applications. I mean, it could be for games,
it could be for serious enterprise work, it could be for the all the tech ID stuff we've been
talking about for a while. There's just so many different applications of Geek that this lowering the barrier cost,
the cost of creating applications that take advantage of Geek is really an exciting idea for me.
Can we have the clapping again, Robbie?
Can we have the clapping again, Robbie?
Let me, that's a really great,
really great point, Len,
because you can develop an application.
I mean, I can't, you can.
But you can develop an application,
but if you don't have an ability to know who's using it
and to interoperate with other applications,
then you're really limited.
So you're like growing a super crop, but you've got no way to harvest it.
And that's really what Geek does.
It lets people potentially monetize it because you can know who's using it and really cheaply
figure out who has authorization and set up APIs so that other applications use you as a utility,
but you have to have that cross application infrastructure,
which is where we sit.
Yeah, and if you think about the whole agentic push
by basically the whole world,
you have enterprises like Salesforce
creating this thing called agent force,
you have everybody in tech basically pushing agents. And if it's really true that agents
become so much easier to code, that it's going to be easier to provide these services,
then the thing that you came up with, John, of validators and the Geek
Marketplace, I don't have a good way to describe it.
Maybe you can help me out.
But it really brings that to the fore.
You know, when agents are proliferating like crazy, how do you know which agents to trust?
How do you know which agents to deal with?
Or how do agents know which other agents to trust and deal with.
So I think that the framework that you've created is just perfect for this new world
that we're moving into.
For the interstate highway system of security and authorization.
So that's interesting because, John, you think that way.
You think about networks.
And I think that's very true.
This decentralized network lets you cross across applications.
I mean, I don't know if people are quite ready to think about applications
because we're so used to walled gardens and applications staying in their place.
But what Geek does is, you know, if you have a node and I have a node,
we can talk to each other.
And, yeah, these decentralized networks of Geeks are because, you know,
it's not one network like certain L1s that I won't mention.
It's many, many networks and many chains.
That's a really good point because we can provide that kind of interstate connection,
but we don't own you.
We're not Google.
You don't have to even consult with us hardly.
You put up your ID and people take it for what it is.
So not only are we not trying to be the, you know,
it's true we're breaking up the bottleneck,
but it's not true that we're sitting on the necks of developers because the
architecture doesn't permit us to do that. And that's, that's part of our,
you know, part of our design objective.
We can't screw you.
Don't trust us. We can't screw you. Don't trust us. We can't screw you.
I mean, that's it, right?
Cannot be evil.
That's the innovation of this wave is can't be evil.
That's right.
Yeah.
And for my part, just looking at it from positioning for geek and sales
and how do we make
this successful
you know Lund's looking at it
from the developer's point of view
and I think it's great that he talks about
lowering the barriers to
applications
John's thinking about it from the network
point of view
from my point of view I see it as
you know
AI is a gold rush and
we're selling shovels.
Like, you know, that's kind of the way we are is we're a basic utility.
Maybe it's not immediately obvious that, you know, because we're doing something different from DeFi and everything
that everybody else is rushing into, but we are ready with the utility.
So, yeah, provide the complement to the thing that's going to happen.
Not sure.
Is that John's mic?
No, not anymore.
Okay, perfect.
I checked with Obi as well, like for some reason we can't
hear or maybe she has some issues with the mic
so I'm not sure
Brave would you want
to do it for next week or
yes of course
just
asked
about it.
So maybe, community hangout is something that is an initiative
that we should be having at the end of every month.
So I think that's a big time to kind of answer the patients
that the community have and also get to know them.
And I think this call was actually a great one
because majority of the born-in questions,
the community has actually been asking in the community.
We've been able to give answers to them.
And so we'll be looking forward to the next one
towards the end of the month.
So I hope by then Obi will be able to
sort out our connections.
I'm sure she
wants to, yeah.
Okay, awesome.
Not sure if there's
any more questions from
anyone. I'm just going to give
John the right to speak again.
If there's any more
questions,
raise your hand, I'll make you
a speaker.
Well, let's give a shout out
to the OGs of Geek and the newbies of Geek and to my wonderful team, you know, John and Lun, the Brains, Robbie, the charm, Brave
who is transforming
this is a really good group
yeah I agree
I agree
okay
I look forward to the same questions every month
guys, come on Okay. I look forward to the same questions every month, guys.
Come on.
I think we have a child community, so they love the anonymous form that we created
because it gives them the opportunity to express themselves.
And so I think that's a good way for us to go.
Okay. All right. Everybody, Golden is doing some sophisticated things
with Geekstacks. So you might just follow Golden underscore crypto. I mean, he's passing messages through Safekeep and all kinds of things
yeah
yeah great stuff
I see Golden as well
X often
so thank you as well Golden for the support
I'm seeing Emi as well
I'm seeing Obi
Noor
seeing a lot of people showing support which is really awesome for the support. I'm seeing Emi as well, I'm seeing Obi, Noor,
seeing a lot of people showing support,
which is really awesome.
Okay.
So yeah, we're close to an hour, so I guess if there's
not any more
questions left, then again
we can close the
space, and then we can close the space and then
we'll see each other again next week.
I mean the community, of course, the team,
we talk to each other every day.
I'll see you in five minutes,
Robbie.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Thanks everyone for joining again
and then hope to see you again next week.
Okay. Bye-bye everyone. Bye everyone. Thanks again. And then hope to see you again next week. Okay.
Bye-bye, everyone.
Bye, everyone.
Thanks, everyone.
Bye.
Thanks.
Bye-bye. Bye. Thank you.
