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Community Hangout: Geeq proves it's Infrastructure
Recorded: Aug. 28, 2025 Duration: 1:04:42Space Recording
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Thank you. Hey Stephanie, can you hear me okay?
Hello Stephanie, can you hear me? Hello, Stephanie.
Can you hear me? Thank you. I guess Stephanie has some issues, technical issues. you
all right let's try this again you
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Unfortunately, we're facing some technical issues here.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, there she is.
Hey, Stephanie.
Zorba, are you going to ask us a question
instead of just supporting blind faith?
Maybe.
It's a cute monkey, though.
I love monkeys.
Monkeys look a little like hairy children to me,
so I don't know.
I don't know.
Yay.
Oh, a new, I think this, I know that is a new picture for us.
Really exciting.
Let's just wait a few minutes because Robbie and I did not get a chance to perfectly coordinate today.
So I'll just be upfront because I'm always upfront.
Sorry, Robbie.
No, that's how we do business anyway, right?
Yeah, we're pretty up front.
But it was my fault.
I was out while Robbie was saying,
let's work it out.
That's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry.
No, you're the best.
So we can just chat.
Chat online.
Yeah.
So I hope everyone's doing well.
And welcome to Women in DeFi as well.
Great to have you women here.
Great to see Obi as well, Emi, Zorba.
Ami, Zorba.
So let's kick this off, right?
So let's kick this off, right?
we were really
pleased actually to announce
working with Continuum last month,
same with Maeve
this month, and there's another project
we'd like to tell you
about that's been cooking in
geek labs. Would you
like to say something about this, Stephanie?
I would. I really am excited because these together.
So, we're going to have a founder join us in the audience today,
and we'll have whole spaces on them at some other time.
Hi, Speaker TVM.
We are very proud to be working with a new group called the Lonics Group, and they are part of Geek Labs.
You'll again, you'll learn more about them as we go on, but they're incredibly ambitious, as is Continuum in a different way, as we.
ambitious as is continuum in a different way as we and the things that they're talking about
really make use of what geek infrastructure is all about which is making certain that there is a spot where people know their digital information, digital assets,
anything they'd like to track permanently is recorded in a place where the primary source
is always with that message or asset or piece of information.
So it's not just about putting things on chain,
it's about knowing where it came from
and about knowing that it wasn't generated
by some smart contracts that you can't really trust.
Smart contracts can get rugged, they they can get exploited you know the drill
through a contract less blockchain and we've worked all this time to be useful
to play people like continuum and mave and the lonix group and atrix and our good friends who are doing uh actually they're they're uh they're you used to
know them as robot um and what they are bringing to the table are things that we don't have they Real world applications where identities are kept private by default.
We're really proud of that.
So that together we're remaking the infrastructure.
So it's not a case where everybody can see what you're doing all the time.
what you're doing all the time. So let me get back to the Linux Groups project, which is
a different kind of the being a different kind of infomediary
with permissions ingrained, privacy by default, and providing that kind of verified data so a store can
know this is an actual customer and they've given me permission and we have a contract
between the two of us.
Those all are going on chain.
They're going on chain as data.
They're not going on chain as anything that can be exploited.
And it's really an issue of resetting the infrastructure rails of how we interact with each other on the internet.
You know who's on the other side.
You're not getting faked out by some bot or fake website you're not getting fished
and i think if you put the ingredients together look so ray if you put these ingredients together
it's such a powerful package that we're now starting to be able to show
because our partners are bringing in the ai they're the ones who are going to have agents
we're the ones providing permissions for the agents to see the data because the data is encrypted
or it's in a private blockchain and we we have a lot of ways to make sure those trades happen.
So that's the gist, Robbie.
Permissions, privacy by default, knowing who you are,
knowing the public key, that you're talking to the right account, not some fake scam mail.
and then commerce and these projects have chosen us as the new phrase people trust native rails
And then commerce.
where we're in the verified economy on trust native rails we're not going to just trust Google or Microsoft or
Meta.
I was trying to jump in there.
Yeah I'm like I've been joking right for these platforms that can de-platform you and our community knows how important that's been to us.
And they've been asking, rightly so, when can you show us?
And now we're going to be able to start showing you because we have, we're lining up the partners.
They said Geek is the only place they would build because we're the ones that are ready for the disruption.
Hey, Lonnie.
I got a question for you, Stephanie,
in that sense as well, to make it more tangible in a way,
let's say, because you talked about stores and then basically like
what stores doing
right now is selling your data, right?
Absolutely we are.
Yeah.
And they're pushing...
Stephanie could I ask you to put yourself on mute
while I'm talking because we're hearing double.
Okay, perfect.
So right now
like stores
they collect your data basically from wherever and they sell it
right so that's why like uh you're googling uh chocolate bars and suddenly like there's
chocolate bars everywhere um and that's not always what you want or what you're looking for. So how is Geek and Lonics going to change the way that it's happening right now?
It's such an important question because we're so used to just throwing up our hands and being helpless about this. But this is a, let me give you a bad example,
like your chocolate bar, which I don't relate to
because I'm not a chocoholic, but here's,
oh, you're from Belgium.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, no, that's okay.
That's okay.
I don't take it against you.
There was a comment I read somewhere that said,
I went to my mom's house and she was looking at toothpaste
and I was only visiting and I went away
and my phone started getting ads for toothpaste.
I'm not actually surprised by that at all because we are so surveilled in that the
digital pathways that connect us from one place to another are not private by default they are
making it easy for us to forget being private you You have to go back in your settings, and if you forget your settings,
then they update your phone, and then you don't notice,
and they suddenly turn everything back on to now it's like,
can I suggest something, right?
And have AI fill in and of course read it.
So this has been going on for a long time and it's very pervasive and even if
you think you know about it i've been in this world for a year now and it's worse than you think
hello akim and
what on earth can we do to break that well Well, the problem is that they can trace us as us
from the moment you log in
to putting cookies on your browsing history
and following around wherever you are.
And this is one of the things, this is what Google did.
They put a pixel cookie on your browser so they know which page you went and then they know
where the next one was and it's like this trusted path right so what do we do
we shred the identities and when you shred the, you break the way that they could track you. So now it's your choice.
Because if you can log in to one place, not by saying, Oh, here's another email I have to make.
And here's another password I have to keep track of. Because if you mess up, they will put those emails together.
But if you do it on blockchain,
by saying this public key is mine,
and I'm the only one who's going to know it
because I needed it myself,
and that public key is mine.
You look at the blockchain and all you see are public keys and ids right and you can
do them for one time use and this is the kind of um infrastructure that we're offering to both lonics and continuum this way to say i'm a real identity i could be honest i could be real like
for continuum they want to know their customers they don't want to give out information by accident
to someone who's not a customer for lonics they want their customers to have the benefit of knowing that their privacy is respected.
And we're talking about the very easiest service that he can offer as an infrastructure.
So I'll leave that back to you, Robbie.
So basically the customer, I hold the data and I decide what I give to the store.
Is that correct?
That's actually correct.
That is one of the things that we thought about a long time ago with our micropayments.
I know there are people here who have been with us that
long. That was the same kind of thing. We didn't think about it as shredding identities. What we
thought about was recreating small amounts of cash, like minerals and dimes that you just throw at the browser and they don't necessarily know where it came from.
So in that sense, you could track it all back
to the same wallet and like somebody could know
that you YouTube, I don't know, soap operas all day.
But this, now we've formalized it.
Now we've really formalized the ability to shred your identity.
I think that's the easiest way to say it.
And so if you want to say to Visa that you're the same person who is this um who is buying i don't know john likes to use the
liquor store right if if you if if he wants to he doesn't want anybody to know what kind of
alcohol is he's buying and when and how much, right? It's really kind of none of their business, except they want to advertise to you and they
want to collect other things about you.
So yes, to your point, Ravi, I'm trying to answer your question.
You hold your data and you decide what someone else sees in order for them to sell a product to you that you actually decided to want to see.
Yes.
And then the other thing, but let me, let me.
Go ahead.
Oh, okay.
So the customer holds the power.
That also means, because they sell our data everywhere.
Does that mean that the customer can sell the data that they decide themselves
to get sold elsewhere as well?
You know what I mean?
So the short answer is yes.
That's one of the things that our partners want to be able to do
is for the customer to decide.
And it's the consent part.
It's the privacy and consent part.
It's not necessarily, Geek cannot control what people do on top of Geek to make their markets.
top of geek to make their markets,
But we can make sure those two bases are covered.
but we can make sure those two bases are covered.
Yeah, I think it's a very revolutionary thing.
Sorry, I stumbled there.
Because I think we had a conversation with John
in one of the last spaces as well,
when it comes to,
because to me, it also feels a bit like social engineering in a way you know um getting deceived into getting something that you probably don't want anyway
um so I think like it's a great thing for for the people to get their data back, right?
It's such an important thing because everyone's talking,
like, for example, in Europe, GDPR, data privacy and everything.
But like, okay, it changed something, but at the end of the day, not so much.
Because another example, I was talking with a friend a few weeks back
about some crypto wallet that I've never heard about
and suddenly on Telegram I get a message
from that crypto wallet as a business developer
I'm like, huh?
Your data is getting sent everywhere and you're listening in
basically
I mean, it's very scary your data is getting sent everywhere and you're listening in, basically.
I mean, it's very scary. I feel like we're also at a tipping point
where people are getting enough of these things.
And, I mean, Geek is really the solution for this.
And partnering with a company like Lonix as well,
I think it's very noble
in a way
and we're changing a lot of things for the better
which is what we've been trying
to do for a long time already
and it's great
to have partners
like Loenix, Continuum and
Maeve
because they have a huge network as well.
And that's also a huge network we can tap into,
because we're going to do pilots with them, obviously,
at one point.
And I mean, I'm not going to go into this,
but they're going to show this solution,
this product that we're building towards their network.
So it's a very exciting thing.
It's a very exciting thing.
And I'm sure everyone agrees.
And I know Stephanie is super excited as well about these things.
Robbie, I'm so excited that I've had to designate you to do some of these
communications because you're much calmer.
Otherwise, I don't have the time to be this excited all the time.
It's awesome that you're here.
No, no, no.
It's true.
I mean, I'm a bit of an enthusiast.
Sometimes people call me the Labrador.
I need to get myself in check as well sometimes.
I mean, it's super exciting.
We've been building for several
years already uh and i mean it sounds cliche but like room isn't built in a day obviously and
especially when it comes to technology there's so many uh stuff you need to keep in mind when it
comes to legal frameworks as well you know because a lot of people forget about the legal part of things. But it's definitely a very, very important thing, which Geek has always took into account.
And we never messed around with these things because, like, you can build for five years
and then you need to bust the business because you didn't take into account the legal things,
you know, so a very important thing.
And then with AI, privacy, data management,
data protection, again,
you're going to be the holder of your data
and you decide.
You decide yourself.
It's a new world.
It sounds like a utopia, actually,
just a few years ago,
but it's actually going to be possible very soon.
So it's very cool.
You're right.
I'm really excited.
And I hope, again,
for people who have come in late,
we've been building and building
and it's infrastructure it
are these are new rails they're verified rails and that's the reason is because we've taken the
trusted parties and we've taken the choke points where they all you can do is trust them you just
all you have all you can do right now is put your data across the rails
and hope someone doesn't do something wrong with it.
And hope is not a business strategy for us.
It's been to our detriment.
So we need people to prove their intentions,
though we can decide. And the only way you do that is by us
i mean all of us i mean the decentralized people who are working the blockchain i mean the protocol
i mean everyone saying oh wait i can do a little part. And in doing so, I can flip this dynamic.
And you know, Don and I are economists by training.
I think that's one of the reasons why this infrastructure was thought out
because we know everybody still has to make money.
But who's making money and are they taking your money without your consent?
That's really bad.
And people can still make money.
They just now have to behave because of the way we're doing things.
And so we're infrastructure.
We're rails.
We can support anyone who wants this.
And maybe not everyone will at first and that's okay because
there's a new option in the world but we weren't able to show it really until people decided they
did see a business opportunity to build with a privacy preserving consent based
ecosystem like an app with commerce and then they're just gonna say okay you do you do that
you know you do the verification to make sure the privacy is and the ids are shredded and
everybody's happy on the technical level and we'll start doing the commerce and for those of you who
think that we never thought about the token this is a token for a privacy by default person first
rail it's the token that fuels that.
Now, does anybody
else say they have that? No, of course they
don't. They haven't been working like we have.
So you are the, we are
the only ones and this is the only
token.
I'll let you back, Robbie.
Yeah,
I'm like,
it's a good thing that you mentioned token as being a fuel because I mean at the end
of the day the token matters right the geek token matters so like the token is not just
oh sorry the token is not just a speculative speculative add-on it's a fuel for the proof that's being provided um
so like every time an action is verified on geeks rails like as stephanie mentioned earlier the the
rails the token uh settles it right so just like gas for transactions, but built around proof, custody, and accountability.
So it ties the whole infrastructure together, basically,
providing, I mean, in a lightweight, predictable costs, and the rail stays stable, which means the system keeps running, right?
So I think most crypto tokens depend on speculation or consensus games or
whatever right um and at any day it's also a lot of hype let's be honest um so like like i'm really
like it it's it's great for utilities like Geek,
for infrastructure like Geek,
that's going to be used by, like, companies, institutions,
because, like, the use cases are there, right?
Data privacy, one of it.
So there's actually use for a token.
The token is going to be used.
So it's great for people who use it, obviously,
because they're using the product.
And it's great for investors, like people listening in, right?
Because there's going to be demand for it.
And when I say there's going to be demand for it,
it's companies like Lonix, Continuum, and Maeve
that are going to boost these utilities, basically, right?
In their network.
So, like, really, like, I'm super excited for it.
There's people saying, there's other crypto,
blockchain, web3, whatever, projects saying,
oh, we have so much utility, utility,
but then if nobody's using it, you what's the point you know so like here with geek like the utility is really
there and it's going to be used by potentially like a huge amount of people and like and i say
people but it can also be companies right but these companies will
be pushing it out to other companies that will be pushing out to their own network like hey
we found this uh company here geek like it saved us so much money one of the things also you know
um and our data is ours and we decide what we put out there and it's all being verified and it's all um proof on the blockchain fueled by the geek token as well you know is that correct
stephanie what i'm saying is i've been rambling on you're you're right you you are geek through
and through you've been with us since the beginning robbie so i think what I want to say about a utility token is that crypto is, it's not really a world that I live and breathe. But let me think about it. So you create a currency, a unit of currency. And then what do you need to do?
Then what do you need to do?
Well, they create a scarce amount
and then that's fixing your supply for, you know,
those of you who remember supply and demand.
And then the only way it goes up
is if they can push out demand.
Okay, so the price goes up every time you push out demand.
So you hype it up, you push out demand, and then people get disillusioned.
The demand falls.
You have the same amount of tokens.
The price falls.
Now what do you do?
Well, you have to push out demand again.
There's no actual use for that unless somebody is constantly selling to people.
So what can you do? can you can buy it you
can sell it you can use it as collateral you can borrow against it so you can do defy trading but
basically it's you know how many people want to use this as an actual trading asset whereas in geek
actual trading asset whereas in geek geek is a utility token it helps uh pay the transaction
fees for these public chains and are we going to just take a transaction like we make you buy
something and then we make somebody else sell something sure Sure, we're gonna take a transaction for that, right?
That's a transaction on the blockchain.
But also, if somebody wants to look at your data,
if somebody wants to send you a message about your data,
if someone says, oh, I'm going to do something else
to that data, like I'm an AI
and I want permission to see your data.
And then I would like to add something to that data.
All those things are transactions that will need the utility token.
I don't believe there's no free lunch.
You know, if you go to somebody and you say, you know,
aren't your, isn't it free unit?
It's like, no, they're subsidizing their cross-subsidizing that somehow they're
it costs energy and they're making it up because they're raking it in on some other part of their
ecosystem we're not like that we're not like that we're very straightforward
and we envision this economy that has real use for the token every single time. It's not like people have to buy and spend.
Just look and pay a little bit, right?
This whole communications layer that I haven't even,
we don't even explain to people who are just coming through
because it's too much.
You really have to be down in the weeds,
but it's also an encryption and communications layer
that we don't have right now.
So all those things,
if you want to check that you're not getting spammed,
Geek has a way to make sure
that you're talking to the right bank.
Yeah, and that's a transaction. And and it's a transaction fee and everything makes sense
as an economy so i'm going to stop there for a moment no that's fine like in the meantime if
someone in the audience have a question just raise your hand and i'll uh i'll give you permission
um actually like i wanted to talk uh with you about something else as well, Stephanie,
related to Geek, obviously.
But I think it might be interesting for everyone to know
because you've been super busy for the last several months.
I don't understand where you get the time
to talk to all these people, honestly.
So I think it might actually be interesting
for people to understand
how do Loenix, Continuum, Maeve,
how do they get to geek?
Because you've been on conferences as well.
You've met so many people. How does that get to geek? Because you've been on conferences as well. You've met so many people.
How does that work, Stephanie?
It works by being trustworthy.
People sort themselves out on who they choose to work with and who they choose to refer to other people.
And it takes a while because you have to kind of trickle through this network.
Everybody here is a network person.
So I've been working on that, but I've been very fortunate.
One of the people I'm close to, her name is Lisa Sign, S-E-I-M, Strategic Exchanges.
She's actually a Bitcoin maxi, and we're good friends.
So she's been working on the compliance side.
She's been working on the bank side.
She's been working on the trading side.
She's been helping traditional banks figure out how to use crypto. Of course, she wants them to adopt Bitcoin first. I think that's been working on the trading side. She's been helping traditional banks figure out how to use crypto.
Of course, she wants them to adopt Bitcoin first.
I think that's been going well.
She's worked with Senator Loomis and the Wyoming state government
to think about stablecoin legislation.
I don't know if Senator Loomis was a big proponent of crypto in this Congress.
So all that takes work and it takes time.
I mean, if you've ever dealt with a government, which I haven't much, it takes patience to get that kind of thing through.
But as Lisa worked, she got a network of people who were similarly dedicated, similarly patient.
And, you know, as I became friends with her, actually, she's the one who introduced me to Christina over at Continuum.
And let me tell you a little bit about Christina because she's, you know, she's so accomplished.
Christina because she's, you know, she's so accomplished.
But if you blink and you miss it, you don't even notice that she's summing up 20 years of experience in, you know, a sentence of her resume because she's always trying to talk about someone else.
So Christina is a trusted member of the Fortune 500 group.
So I've got one friend who's been on the government and politics side, another, now Christina, who I met through her, who is, you know, they've also been working with compliance.
Maeve is compliant with Micah.
You know, these are good people who have been very patient. And they, like you said, Robbie, before,
I'll just end there that we have networks
of networks of networks now.
And it starts with the people with the right ideas.
We're gonna follow them through.
And I'm lucky i'm
grateful i'm glad that they found geek and said geek is what we're looking for because you're not
like the others right um and i mean so okay geek has, right? Like, at the end of the day, the business is being done in the real world, right?
So, you have a lot of crypto projects, and they only do business in the crypto space,
but it only goes that far, you know?
I mean, that's my opinion.
That's my two sets on it.
That's my two sets on it, you know?
I think it's still mind-blowing
that people are kind of ignoring us.
People are like,
why isn't the price not rising?
At the end of the day,
we're building a huge foundation
with massive players.
Like Stephanie said,
like Christina is a member from the Fortune 500 board.
Like who else has these close connections?
And I say close connections
because like everyone gets along very well, Christina.
Sorry?
You're on the WhatsApp threads, so you
see how close we all are.
Yeah, and it's fun
times in a WhatsApp group, actually.
Like, no, just
like, I mean,
people need to understand that
real business takes time,
especially with
technology. You need to
lay your technology out there
you need to have the right connections
for them to understand
the technology as well
because obviously geek is pretty complex
where you have a great
person like Stephanie
who is doing an amazing job
to explain them in an enthusiastic
and in an easy way for them
easily digest everything and to understand.
It's notable to know that Geek is doing real stuff with real, legit people who have a huge network.
They're ready and willing to spread out Geek's word.
This is a huge thing for me so yeah that's my two sets on everything and i'm really excited for them because at the end of the
day like it's you can see that's like a i let's call it um consultancy, whatever,
you have products that they're pushing to their clients,
which could be banks, which could be utility companies,
and, I mean, hospitals, whatever, you know,
and they will be pushing our technology
that we assemble with them into a product to their clients.
It's a massive thing.
And I know people have been, like I saw some on X complaining about,
oh, when this, when that.
Like, okay, guys, we're getting there.
Like if you've been paying attention lately, you saw Continuum.
We had discussions with Christina.
We had Brandon Cooper from Alafit.
Last week was a huge space, three hours.
This is how business in real life is being done.
And we have a crypto token that's fueling all of this.
But it just takes some time to build these things,
but we're getting there.
And again, if you've been paying attention
the last few months,
you should be understanding right now
that Geek is, I mean, we're evolving,
and not only by ourselves.
I'm not sure if you have something to say about this, Stephanie. I do. I mean, we're evolving, you know, and not only by ourselves.
I'm not sure if you have something to say about this, Stephanie. I do, although I'm going to echo what you say.
Oh, some of my friends are here.
I think this is a really phenomenal point.
Business still gets done in the real world.
And yes, trading gets done on crypto rails oh is that christina
um so when we say you know we want to onboard people to decentralize Rails and we want to have privacy by default.
What does that mean?
That means we're not really talking only to the Web3 people.
We're talking to the people who do business in real life.
And the thing that I think you said, Robbie, is really crucial,
we're able to start showing it. So it's not that, you know, we weren't trying before,
we were trying, but it does take time for people to say, yeah, you know what,
I'm not in love with what other people have done and i see this massive need to
protect personal information and our company's um inventory from from counterfeits and our our uh
sales from bots and all these things
that revolve around identity and security.
Well, guess what?
We've built that.
So we had to get to a certain point
where I could say that was true, right?
The protocol is the basis for it,
but then we had to build a bunch of other things
to get identity and permissions and
chain of custody. But these are new utilities on an infrastructure. So one of the things that I've
had to work really hard at is to say, sure, I know all this technical stuff in my head, and I can talk
to you about public private key encryption now pretty well, you know, not as well as Don, but pretty well.
But we're not a patch. We're not a SaaS product. This is not like a platform play. This is an
infrastructure play. And, you know, these are the rails. So I took geography geography I took I you know I'm very old I took them with people and we
learned about the Roman roads and how if you had a road and aqueducts you were able to build an
economy then they moved to the Navy if you control the waterways then you can build a commerce that way. If you have a highway,
if you have the air routes, if you have the railroads, I think I did that wrong, but wrong
order. But you know, if you have the community rails, if you have the communication rails,
if you have SSL, you've got it got it now people seem to think that the internet is done it's just
the way it is it always will be and i say to them no every 25 years there's a new playbook
and there's new infrastructure and the one thing that we've done that the railroad barons did not do and certainly you know the winners of the
early platform wars did not do is we have not sacrificed privacy right i like the explanation with the water, the roads, the rails, because it's true, right?
And I mean, the infrastructure is the backbone of everything, you know, and I don't think
people really understand how important infrastructure is for anything.
It can be in the real world or in technology,
because that's where everything is driving on,
on all the rails that has been built, which Geek has been doing.
So to get the coal from Wyoming to Tennessee, whatever,
that's what Geek has built. to get the coal from Wyoming to Tennessee, whatever, you know.
That's what Geek has built.
And other people are using it without really paying attention to it, really,
because it's being used as a backbone and in the background, sort of.
So, yeah, it's important to know as well. And the Geek token is the fuel for the proof.
It keeps these rails alive.
So unlike speculative crypto, it's tied to utility
and it's future proof against both AI fakes and quantum attacks.
Going about quantum, it's very important as well
that the infrastructure is not,
that it doesn't lose a rail along the way if a train drives over it
or if a kid puts a stone on the rail that the train doesn't derail,
you know what I mean?
So, yeah, it's important.
It's important.
Yeah.
My favorite term now is crypto agile.
Quantum ready, post quantum, crypto agile.
People are sort of thinking, hey, are you doing that?
And we're like, yeah, we did that. Right.
Is it possible?
What crypto agile means is are you agile enough that you can change your cryptography as needed when the time comes
and still leave all the logic undisturbed like can we still run sas programs and be safe and we are
able to say to people yes yes because we're infrastructure and. And we're not telling you how to write your SaaS programs.
We're just saying, please send an API to this new infrastructure
anytime you want, anytime you want a verification,
anytime you want to transact,
anytime you want to check the provenance,
anytime you...
Okay, so I'm going on.
Those are utilities that we offer on our infrastructure. And so, you know,
we're here. We are here. We are bringing the people in. They are choosing us.
Yeah, we built the rails. And the thing about that is that, you know, you said the coal.
The thing about that is that, you know, you said the coal.
I thought that was really good.
We've actually got an energy person in the audience who knows all about fuel and things I don't know about.
But we've actually had a few small conversations about how Geek could support things like carbon
credits because you really don't want anybody to lie about the carbon credit system, right?
You need the verification, you need to…
Yeah, which is actually what's happening every day nowadays.
Sorry, I interrupted.
I interrupted.
No, no no no so so um when i was at consensus
uh it was very interesting most people had washed out very few builders were there who had who were
just starting so it was three people one people who were interested in stable coins.
Two, people who were, oh, I forgot the other three.
People like us who had been around for a long time
and have weathered all the storms.
And then three, people who were interested in AI
and how AI and blockchain would go together.
That's it.
They were not like screaming hordes of tribes.
It was actually very sparsely attended.
So I like that.
I'm not a big crowds person.
And when I went to the after parties,
the number one thing that kept coming up was carbon credits and the reason is because their
system is so opaque meaning the data is not clear meaning you know all kinds of money is
changing hands through all kinds of brokers um and yeah there's there's not much accountability.
So there's a lot of inefficiency, right? And so there were, I'm talking about four, maybe five people, individuals I met from different parts of the law, energy, I don't remember what else, maybe finance, I don't
know, five people separately talked to me about carbon credits and they were saying,
yeah, we're looking around now that everybody's washed out to see who's really here, who can
handle a carbon credits market, because there's
billions of dollars of inefficiency there. And so I've written a position paper on that in the last
month. That kind of thing, right? It's just phenomenal what we can do, because you need
verification. Yeah, and now you're talking about carbon credits um i think it's a bit similar
in the oil business because a friend of mine uh he's an oil trader and sometimes he comes
up with these stories where i'm like what and like huh when it comes to money changing hands from Venezuela to wherever,
and nobody really knows where the oil is or where that money went.
And then I'm like, whoa, this is pretty wild, actually.
The carbon credits thing, it's a very important thing,
and you see it from many companies
and then Bill Gates and whoever,
you know,
it's a hot topic.
And especially coming from governments
putting up laws
when it comes to these things,
it's only going to grow
and like companies need to be ready for it.
And it's going to need to be straightforward and transparent.
And that's also something Geek can totally provide without an issue.
We really can.
And I know I'm talking about just a tiny part.
I finally got it down to a really simple message right now which is the first place to start thinking about geek is verification proof
and i did your shredded id so right now even the people who know each other in close networks like
let's say you're a carbon you're're a trader, and usually you get your information
from somebody over there in the industrial sector. Now they don't even know if they're
the same people, right? So even those communications are breaking down. It's so easy to steal credentials and pretend to be someone else. So if you think, oh my gosh,
there is a chance that someone is going to get scammed, robbed, lied to, hurt, right?
Lose their crypto because TradFi doesn't know how to deal with it
that's where you need geek
you need the security
and people tell me stop talking about security
it's not sexy
and I'm like but it's necessary
it's necessary
and what are we going to do
we're going to provide something that's necessary and what are we going to do we're going to provide something that's necessary
that is building a whole darn economy with security for each individual and every time
somebody needs that they're going to need geek So if you're in it for the transaction fees,
this is a place that's going to last a while.
I'm going to give it back to you, Robbie, because I get really excited.
You know, I like the thing, like what you said,
security is not sexy, but it's necessary.
And I mean, you know, like everything goes well in your life
until something happens with your privacy, you know, like everything goes well in your life until something happens with your privacy, you know, and then you're like, damn, okay, I need to do something about it.
And it will happen one day or another.
That's a certainty now.
Yeah, that's a certainty now.
Everyone's, I mean, everyone should be aware, not everyone's aware, but they will be soon enough.
be aware, not everyone is aware, but they will be
soon enough.
And I mean, I'm happy
that I'm part of a gig that actually cares
about privacy and security
and, you know,
because like
someone should.
I mean,
we would
not be so loud about it
if we couldn't provide the answer, right?
I'm not a big one for spending my time moaning and groaning, you know, just shut up if you
can't do anything.
And I sort of try to live by that, but, but we can.
And I sat down with someone who today from the finance world, and we kept talking, we
had, I don't know, we're supposed to have a
half hour coffee and we talked for an hour and 45 minutes, which is a lot for some guy like him.
And he said, wait a minute, this kind of sounds like the Holy Grail because it kept saying
infrastructure, infrastructure, not a SaaS, not a bolt-on, not a api we're not just selling an api we are selling security
um and he said but aren't people going to be upset that you're selling something new and i said no
because you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result. And right now, security is patching.
It's doing the same thing over and over
and trying to hope that they've secured the thing.
Well, now AI is really going to show those up, right?
And I'm not saying anything against the security people,
not at all they are they're
overworked they're underpaid they're stressed out we want to help because it's not their fault it's
the fault of the infrastructure so now we can do that he said stephanie you're talking about the
holy grail i said yeah because because people just have to realize we've compressed time so much,
but every now and then there comes a time where there's new infrastructure
and it changes everything.
And the token's the fuel, man.
Right.
And did he pay for your coffee is my question he always does yes
okay great all right awesome um so we're coming uh to an hour of the space um in the meantime if
someone has a question reach out um we're very excited to start doing stuff with Loenix as well and keep doing
things building with Continuum, Maeve I think I'm not gonna say anything
the thing about these huge projects and their ambition is they needed something not only with security
not only with proof so they can do these sort of I call them hybrid
architectures but they need multiple chains right they don't need a chain
that's going to get congested and mess them up or the token's going to really swing wildly or
the business world needs something reliable and they need to be able to scale and know how
it's going to happen and they just can't have people changing everything all the time which
is one of the reasons it's taking us so long because we knew that's what the
demand was going to be. You know, you can't make something
pushed out and then go, Oh, sorry, you know, we forgot to
make it crypto agile. So, so I'm really excited. I think we're
going to see lots of use, lots of chains, lots of use cases, and
lots of use, lots of chains, lots of use cases,
and privacy preserving by default, shredded IDs,
consent-based economy, and proof.
Right.
And I think you touched a great topic as well, which is scale, you know,
because, like, there's going to be demand,
but you're going to need to be able to be a reliable infrastructure
and to be able to scale everything.
So that's a big thing as well, obviously.
All right, so I didn't see anyone asking for a question.
Stephanie, if you have any last words for anyone listening in or.
You know, geek community, I, we, the team really values you. you and we have not, probably not internalized how much
the loyal people
have suffered because
we're suffering and I
apologize for that but buckle up
man, I mean
I have never
seen like
Oh Lonnie
you're super perfect
yeah I gave Lonnie permission to speak, speak go ahead lonnie have a question for stephanie
yeah i just if i could i'd like to make one comment i'm lonnie i'm the first half of lonix
and uh i just happened to hear about this call today and i have to say i'm so encouraged by
everything that i just heard i'm excited I just, I also want to say,
you asked the question earlier, how did Lonux and Continuum and Geek get together?
It was with no effort, really is the answer. We looked and searched and the right people just
showed up with the right integrity, with the right vision, with the right goals to
impact humanity, to do good things.
And we thought it was going to take us forever.
And now that we found Stephanie, you know, what we can do with the verification happening at the source,
nobody else can do that.
And that's just changed our game completely.
And the same with Christina, what she does with the encryption and the compression.
We had no idea how to do that.
They do.
So we're so excited.
And if I could say, can I make one more comment?
Is there time for that?
Sure, go ahead, go ahead, for sure.
Okay, you had mentioned, we were talking earlier about the data
and the protection of data.
And the only thing I want to add to that is
Lonix receives the cookies from the customer.
We have their data,
but the data does not go to the vendor.
The only thing the vendor gets is the name
and the address, so they know
where to ship it.
When the sale is done, the cookies are
canceled, go back to
the customer, and that's where the magic
is, is that we're the
conductor in the center, bringing the customer and And that's where the magic is, is that we're the conductor in the center,
bringing the customer and the businesses together with total data protection, with contextual
buckets that you get to choose which data you want to share and which data you don't want to share.
And so you add continuum and geek to that model. There's nobody doing it. And I'm not a tech guy,
by the way. I'm the oil and gas guy that Stephanie talked about earlier, but this is about the most exciting thing I've, is the most exciting thing
I've ever done. So thank you, Stephanie, for the invite. Lonnie, I'm so proud of you. I know that
does, that sounds maternal and that's not the way I mean it. You're, you're an expert, you're humble,
You're an expert, you're humble, and you know so much.
Lani, I just want to brag on him for a moment.
He is an experienced exec in the energy industry.
It turns out that we're both interested in certain areas,
and this consent model is something that Lonnie picked up right away.
And, you know, people who say, oh, you're doing business, you're doing business,
it's not in Web3.
No, these people are going to be doing business with clients, customers, people,
you guys, right, Lonnie?
That's a wide net.
And I am delighted that we met them.
And it is a match, just a perfect match.
It is a perfect match.
Yeah.
Thanks so much for coming up, Lonnie.
We'll have you back. Thank you, Stephanie. thanks so much thank you Stephanie
thank you for
chiming in as well it's great for
people to understand that
this is real you know
so this is really awesome
thank you for chiming in thank you Nathan
as well great to see you here in the space
Bitcoin Freeman
healthy lucky with
kobus uh woman in d5 geek ray emmy zorba davy king ac thank you so much for joining everyone
um i hope to see you guys as well uh on the next space um and in the telegram channels
if you have questions you know where to find us, as usual.
Hope you guys have a great rest of the day.
Thank you, everybody. Bye.
