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Consumed Creativity: How Does It Impact Our State Of Being? Part 2π€β¨ππ¨
Recorded: Aug. 29, 2025 Duration: 5:04:07Space Recording
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Thank you. Thank you. Can y'all hear me?
Yes, can you hear me?
Yes, I hear you.
Mella, are you here?
Yo, yo, yo.
Yeah, I hear you.
Hi, Sheila.
Loud and clear?
Hi, everyone.
Yeah, you're loud and clear.
Yeah, welcome, ladies.
I'm going to play a track for us while we just, you know, at least wait for the room to fill up a little bit.
If you guys are down for that, but welcome. I hope you guys are doing well.
Hi, Sister Simone. I see you down there.
And, yeah, I'll just play that one track and then, you know, we'll, I guess, you know, start things, I guess.
Happy Friday. Yeah.
Let me know if y'all can hear this, okay? I Oh I'm going to get you. This money. I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
Thank you. Daddy You said you could die too
Yo, so I literally just heard that today
It's called, let's see here
Bayou Life
Literally, Bayou Life
B-U-Y-Y-O-U Life by Burna Boy
And I was like man yeah i just
love the instrumental so i felt like let me just play this you know to uh kick us off here so
give me a second i'm gonna put on my headsets and then we'll uh kick off the space but good
to see everyone here i see aj thank you for being here. Jared. Let's see who else is here. Automation. I see
you. Sheila, Simone, Finding, Jigsaw, and Lesync. Thank you guys for being here.
Man, I am all say hi to Z. Z, it's been a minute. How are you?
I'm good, Mel. How are you doing?
I'm good. I'm good. I'm chilling. It's been a productive day, so I get to chill now.
What does a day in the life of Bella B look like?
Oh, boy. Well, today was a soup day. It was sending emails until my brain turns to soup. So that was my day,
but it's actually been good because I did get some emails back. That's when you're like, okay,
it was worth it. Cause, uh, yeah, it feels good when people respond to you. It's nice. But in
this household, when, when someone doesn't respond to us,
we don't think of it as like, oh, they're rejecting us.
We're just like, oh, they just didn't see it
or they're just like carefully crafting a response.
So we follow up.
We follow up many, many, many, many, many, many, many times
until they're like, hey, sorry, didn't see your email.
Do you have like a template that you follow are you like improv-ing it um I feel like after a while it just becomes like the same
conversation over and over and over and over and over again so like there's definitely like a mental
template for how to have those conversations unless it gets to like become
an actual conversation but like starting that conversation usually looks the same so yeah it's
not too bad like it's nice that's how you get opportunities I don't know I think of it as like
you your passion for whatever you're doing, your passion has to match your output,
right? So if you're like extremely passionate about something and you, but you're only like
outputting a certain, like a very small amount of energy into that thing, then you're only going to
get a small bit back. I think like you give, I guess you get what you give, right?
So that's kind of how I see it. You have to like allocate, allocate time and energy
to whatever it is you're passionate about to be able to see results.
So you're essentially acting as like, you're doing everything, like, you're managing yourself, you're getting yourself
booked, and on top of that, the music, the performance, like, how do you recharge with all of that?
Um, honestly, like, I think you just love it, like, I love it so much that it doesn't feel like work,
you know, like, it's just like, it's what I do, it's, even when it's just like it's what I do it's even when I'm
relaxing it's what I'm thinking about you know so like it consumes every ounce of my being so
therefore it's not work it's just literally who I am I even right down to the business side of
things like I'm a really like business minded person I can think like a business person and be an entrepreneur about my
music. So like, that's just part of my being. That's just who I am. That's who I've always been.
Like definitely get that from my dad for sure. But, um, yeah, I don't know. I think it's like,
I don't need to recharge because recharging looks like making music, like chill in, meditating, go outside, smoke a joint,
go upstairs, grab my guitar, hang out, write music and like make music and perform music.
Like that's my version of like recharging. Being on stage too, that recharges you. Holy shit,
that rush, the adrenaline, you're like, oh, I just want to do that again. So,
yeah, that's my long-winded answer to that. Well, Prez, I don't know if you have, like,
a template for how you wanted the space to go, but I think Melody just walked right into the title.
Nah, yeah, I love that exchange, ladies. You'm glad that I didn't set it off, so great.
And I do probably have a reflective question. Y'all know me. That always happens.
But yeah, consumed creativity. And it was actually Mela who was the brainchild in relation to this title, because this happened
in the first space that we did, you know, in one of her shares, she talked about, you know,
what about the creativity we consume? And then I thought about it, I was like, you know what, man,
whenever we run it back, let's, you know, talk about this. So here we are, and here we are. So
Z, I'm glad that you asked Melaody that. And, you know, maybe on my
end, as far as opening statements, at least as of recent, guys, I don't know why, but I've just been
having this itch again, this itch for battle rap. Now, I don't necessarily want to battle rap, but
I've been watching a lot of like battle rap stuff, and I've been writing because of it and man I just feel like
I'm coming up with some of the craziest punch lines like just schemes like everything like I
feel like my writing is super super great and I wonder too like if part of like it is influenced
by me being in school as well because I was doing summer classes. So I'm like, I've just been in that writing mode in general. But then like just consuming battle rap in general, I've
just been like, man, I just had that itch. Like I've just been writing some, I feel like I've
just been writing a lot of crazy shit. You know what I mean? I never really flex like that, but
I really want to flex and talk my shit. So yeah, that's just me right now. I feel like, man, if it ever
happened, you know, if I ever hopped in that ring again, or just like the poetry stuff, you know,
I feel like, yeah, it's great that I'm writing because my brain just feels like it's matching
my output, you know, for lack of better words, just like how Millie B was saying, your passion
has to match your output. So I feel like that's what I've been consuming. There's other things
too I was thinking about. You know, one of the other things I was thinking about was agency and control. Right. So the idea that what we consume, you know, maybe we don't have control in relation to how it impacts our state of being, just bringing it back to the topic. Right. And so how do we exercise autonomy and agency? What does that look like for people?
So I'm curious to hear if people want to explore that in their own individual subjective experiences.
We can limit it to this, being on this app, social media in general.
How does that affect us?
And is it a question of it, the object or the tool or the Internet or whatever it is that we're consuming being the problem,
or is it the thought process that we have behind it? And so if it's the thought process, then
how do we change that? How do we reframe that? What are the action steps that we can take
in order to kind of not dilute the situation? We can validate that and honor that, but also
recognize that we can have a balance in terms of what we claim to be experiencing and also how we claim control
in relation to ourselves and what we're experiencing internally as well. So I'll just
land there for now. There's other things I could talk about, but those are my opening statements
for now. Mela and Z, I can pass it back to y'all. Z, you know, I haven't heard you, you know, Mella and Zee, I can pass it back to y'all. Zee, you know, I haven't heard you, you know, speak in general in a minute. I know you've probably been busy. You know, I know Mella's been busy with her creative pursuits. So Zee, what have you been up to and what have you been consuming that has been aiding whatever you, oh, did Zee leave? Oh, okay. She'll be right back, I'm assuming.
Oh, okay. She'll be right back, I'm assuming. Well, I see Taylor's hand is up. So, I mean, Mela, if you got anything to share in relation to that as well, if you want to add anything, feel free to do so. And then we'll go back to Z, and then Taylor will get back to you as well, man.
I have your drinks popcorn whatever it is it's Friday man Dr. Christina good to see you Mr.
Resco I see you as well thank you for supporting bro Inokin I have not seen you in a minute man
good to see you as well brother but yeah Mela or Z if any of you guys want to answer that question
I know you guys already had your one two dialogue but yeah Mela go ahead and then we'll go to Z
oh I was just gonna say I, I think Z is back.
Testing, testing.
Can we hear her?
Z, are you back?
Can you guys hear me?
My connection was so bad, so I had to pop up.
Awesome.
You're here.
We can hear you.
Awesome.
Yeah, no, I think, like, I don't know. I would love to hear what Taylor has to say.
He has his hand up, and I have a feeling it's probably, like, super profound,
because every time he speaks, it is.
So I would love to go to Taylor.
I'm good for now.
I want to hear him out.
Go ahead, Taylor.
Welcome, man.
Hey, I just wanted to speak to your point, Roz,
because you're putting in all of this information.
And I think you and Mella, for sure, you're musicians, you know what it's like to hit flow state and feel that feeling of like, I can't make a mistake.
There's no way, you know, that I can get the song wrong.
wrong there's no way i can get this earth wrong and for anyone who's creative like there that
There's no way I can get this verse wrong.
flow state you know if you do the same thing over and over enough times flow state will find you
and there comes a point in your creativity where you cease to be the one doing anything creative
and yet creativity keeps flowing out of you. That's to me is a channel.
You're cooking on to the universe with your own spirit and the universe is speaking through you, through your words and your music.
And that to me, you know, it happens in readings for me.
So it's like the feeling that I chase for, you know, for everything. But when you strip away all of the art and creativity about it,
and it does, it takes a creative mind to get there.
Like you were saying, Perez, about autonomy.
I don't think all creativity belongs entirely to us,
entirely to us, if that makes sense.
if that makes sense.
Would the belonging mean that it belongs to source, if not from us, or the collective
conscious, for lack of better words?
Okay, yeah.
Man, thank you, Taylor.
And, you know, Taylor, I know you mentioned the readings, but in general, what are some
other creative pursuits that you consume or have consumed that have, you know, impacted you or your state of being?
And you can answer that however you want to.
Well, I'm a surrealist.
So, you know, I really love M.C. Escher, Salvador Dali, the name of Greek.
And there's a living surrealist named Vladimir Kush, who I really love.
So they're a huge impact on my art. I don't know if you have you ever seen my art?
I've only seen it once, bro. You posted it under a space before, but only once.
And you're talented, man. I've seen it, man. It's dope.
So, yeah, the, uh, I don't know if there's a difference because, you know, I love music.
I love, and I actually, I've, yeah, there's something a little different. I've been on a
dead mouse kick lately. I just can't hear enough dead mouse, uh, for the past few weeks. And,
and like, I'll go on those kicks, you know know it'll be someone random but you know i draw
in dots for us so it takes a really long time it takes a lot of patience and um it's like
if you take uh well here i'll i'll post one of my drawings, something I'm working on. It may be the one you saw, actually, Chris.
Here's two.
One of them's digital, and it was more of a recreation that I did.
I mean, it's hand-drawn, but yeah, it's in the comments now. It's like when you find something you like in art or someone creative that you like that is inspirational for you.
I would say it's slightly different than it is in music.
Because music is like the second, sound is the second strongest sense tied to memory.
So it's almost like music grabs you in a familiar way. Music is like the second, sound is the second strongest sense tied to memory.
So it's almost like music grabs you in a familiar way. And Mela, like, isn't like the best song,
one you feel like you might've heard before,
but is entirely original?
Absolutely.
Yeah, it has like a nostalgic feeling
attached to it for sure.
So that element of familiarity
sort of already exists in that
realm. So for me, it's like, I don't, I don't get this huge remembrance when I see things.
Usually I, it does, I don't have that sort of connection. I just have to, I I'm, I'm into
making something out of nothing. Give me a blank piece of paper and I'll put something on it that didn't exist before.
Does that answer your question, Prez?
No, yeah, it definitely does, man.
And you know, Taylor, as you were speaking about the, what's it called, the dots, right?
You know, I was watching this documentary, I think it was Ice
T. He made a documentary on the art of rap, and he was interviewing Rakim, Rakim, sorry. Yeah,
it was Rakim, you know, the great Rakim, you know, one of the goats. And apparently, you know how he
starts off writing his lyrics, Taylor? He starts off writing with at least three dots or four dots before he starts any word.
That's Rakim we're talking about, you know, one of the greatest rappers of all time.
So, I mean, the fact that you do that.
I can draw on top of that.
Let me tell you, Brez, like when it comes to finding something to draw or paint, if I can't come up with an idea in the moment, I agree to paint a line or draw a line an inch long. And between point A and point B, I've had an idea for a drawing.
Man, I call that the pre-creative state. I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
The PCS, that's the acronym. Nah, yeah, Taylor, thank you, man. I appreciate that. Mela, Z,
you got anything to say? If not, we're going to go to, I see Gerard came on stage. I hope
I'm pronouncing your name correctly. And then we got finding as well. But welcome, guys.
Yeah, Mela, Z, you got anything?
If not, Z, how are you doing?
I'd love to hear Taylor talk more about basically, I don't, I mean, I may be saying this wrong,
but, like, how I experience it is almost, like, what he was talking about when you're
in that flow state is like the universe is creating
through you like creation is occurring and there's no like separation between you and
what you're creating almost i'd like to hear more about that oneness with what with with what spills yeah because like I do feel like there could be some type of like manifesting that's happening
um and people have different schools have thought about this obviously but like
how I experience it especially with like music is like
it's a very like channeled state that's occurring um so you could almost manifest like different
emotional states at least that's how I'm experiencing it when I'm like freestyling
or something is like I'm saying something and I feel as I'm saying it like my vibration is
basically changing to meet whatever I'm speaking out I don't know if
anyone else experiences that absolutely it's like I don't know I could I do this all the time where
I'm not even going through something but I'm writing about it because I like I've experienced
it before but I'm not currently in that place. So I, I don't know.
I recently started thinking of it as like, I'm like time traveling by writing this music.
Cause I'm like going back and feeling if, if life is basically boiled down to like,
you know, like our experiences and, and being in the state of just like feeling what's happening
in the moment all the time, then I don't know, am I not kind of time traveling when I like emotionally time travel? I don't know.
Maybe I'm just baked up. Well, Mella, no, honestly, like I resonate with that so much,
what you just said, because I was thinking about this the other day where it was like,
when I first like started writing music again, because like I wrote when I was younger and
then I stopped for a bit and then I started again like around college and like when I started
writing again I would write stuff that was like I'm like I don't know why I'm writing this but
it's just like coming through me and then I would like write it and then it would be like a few
months yeah it would happen and I'm, is like my future self like...
That shit happens all the time.
And it scares me.
It scares me.
Because sometimes I'm writing about something and it's like, damn, that's dark.
And I'm like, but I don't really...
I haven't really been through that.
Like I wrote it...
I don't know.
Anyways, I'm not going to get into it because it can get really dark, but whatever.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's crazy.
Like, writing music to me is definitely channeling something.
I don't know what it is, but it's channeling something.
Because it just, like, overtakes you.
And it just, like, at least for me, it feels like I'm not even trying to do anything.
It's just, like, happening.
So, yeah, it's an interesting phenomena.
Phenomenomena.
You know?
Prez, what do you think about, like, where...
Because I think what y'all are saying is you're meeting
reality where the magic begins where it already was and then you build upon what's already sort
of in existence but you have to like repeat yourself enough times in the same sort of uh
category to find where the magic already exists and build upon it there but yeah prez what you
were talking about earlier is and i i mean that is straight up like i mean a psychic would say
you were psychic channel oh wow i mean i definitely felt different energetically for lack of better words like you know like
I don't know like just even like when I go back to the punchlines I'm like man what like I came
up with this because I know like if I compare it to like some of the top tiers I'm like man if any
of y'all said this shit, the whole crowd would go crazy.
So I'm really, really happy I've just been writing at that level, even though I don't really have any plans of formally getting back on stage.
But I don't know.
It's just good for me just to validate myself and my pen that writing-wise, I'm definitely one of the ones.
I don't care what anybody says, and I can validate myself.
It's not just being an egotistical type of a mentality. It's not, you know, it's not even like the whole hip-hop thing.
It's just, I don't know. I take my writing very seriously. I don't, like I said, I don't flex as much.
But, like, when I know I'm writing at a very high level, of course, I'm going to acknowledge it, you know, straight up.
And, you know, even tying it back to the consumed creativity, like I listen to like not just battle rappers, but just artists, right?
Just like even just these two ladies up here, you know, I've heard them do their own thing.
know, I've heard them do their own thing. I've heard Mela, I've heard Z spit and you're just
I've heard Mela, I've heard Z spit and you're just like, dang, okay, cool.
like, dang, okay, cool. Like consuming stuff like that, or even hearing stories like yours,
Taylor, like that also kind of helps me as well with my thought process. And now I come up with
my material, um, no matter what type of material it is, whether it's battle rap, poetry or music,
you know, for that matter. So yeah, man, that's, uh, I hope I answered your question or your
comment, but that's my response, man. But yeah, I see finding, you got your hand up, man. Um,
Taylor, I'm gonna give it back to you. If you got any quick thoughts before we go to finding
and then I see Gerard on stage. I didn't know. So yeah, go to the hand. Sorry.
Oh no, you're good, man. Thank you for being here, man. And sharing that.
Z, are you good? Did you have anything else before we go to Finding?
No, no, you can definitely jump to him.
Okay, sounds good. Hey, Finding, welcome, man. What are your thoughts on the topic?
Hey, how you doing? So a word on states of being. You know, obviously, more and more people are reaching for and experiencing things beyond our five senses.
And so what we want to understand is just like elements are in the physical world of your emotional state as your atmosphere, you want it to be calm and you want it to be under control so that you can not have a cloudy day and to see clearly.
Same thing with your emotions.
energy, but they haven't done the work to heal their traumas, their thoughts, and that
causes misalignment, miscommunication, misunderstanding of what they're experiencing in the high
realms.
So the most important thing is to work on self-healing for your emotions, for your thoughts.
And then one little set of techniques as far as developing your state of being to higher thoughts is imagination, inspiration, and intuition.
And so you start off with your imagination.
To be able to see in your mind's eye, to be able to think your own thoughts, this is an acquired skill.
It's not a skill that enough people have developed.
And so when you can begin to picture in your mind's eye and to draw upon your own inner resources to create your thoughts,
you become less dependent upon the thoughts of the environment
that's around you to be you find yourself be able to make better self decisions because you're not
influenced by the environment that you're around um and then as you're doing that if you practice
inspiration like meli b was talking what music does for her find something that inspires you
what music does for her find something that inspires you that helps you channel energy in a
proper way and that that raises that connection with the spiritual world you know it doesn't have
to be dramatic you know it can be planting stuff or playing with animals find something that gives
you inspiration and then more and more yeah you start to work on your intuition that raises practice hearing the voice in your head.
Practice moving on that inner voice in faith, even if you don't know the whole way.
And it'll get louder.
I just want that to.
Thank you, Finding.
Yeah, your emotional state as your atmosphere.
And the three I's, imagination, inspiration, intuition.
Yeah, man, that's something definitely for me to self-reflect upon as well.
You know, you said something interesting too, thinking your own thoughts.
Thinking your own thoughts.
You know, and being less influenced by the
environment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, I, and not everybody subscribes to this, right?
But like, you know, the idea of group or individual competency and who you deem to be competent
and, you know, how does that influence you and your way of thinking, you know, that in
itself being a form of consumption,
let alone creativity, right? And so I think self-awareness is key, but, you know, you can
also allow yourself to be, I won't say influenced, but to be open to changing your mind if you've
been stuck in a certain thought process in relation to something. I listened to something or I consumed
something and can be like, oh, okay, maybe now I have a different POV on it now, you know, and I
think there's nothing wrong with that too. But I think, yeah, just being mindful of that and, yeah,
self-healing, man. It's always an ongoing process. I know it is for me, for sure, and I'm pretty sure
for a lot of people in this space, too.
So thank you, Finding.
In general, too, man, how about you?
What are some creative pursuits or things in general that you consume that you'd say that impact your state of being?
Just the way you defined it, too, like, you know, the higher thoughts.
How do you get to those higher thoughts?
How do you get to those higher thoughts?
Are there any things that you consume that help with that process?
Are there any things that you consume that help with that process?
Just true spiritual knowledge and understanding who we are.
You know, the great maxim, know thyself.
So the more I begin to understand who I am and what our place in this system is and what we're here to do,
the more you learn about that the more
inner strength you kind of develop uh i guess that's what's been driving me the most i guess
now thank you man i appreciate that appreciate the response
well i see i hope i'm pronouncing your name correctly, man. Is it Gerard or Gerard?
Yes. Well, in fact, it's Gerardo because I am, well, my first language is Spanish,
but I put Gerard because it's easier. Well, everybody in Spanish can say Gerard and in
English as well. Thank you so much.
Good evening, everyone.
Good morning.
Okay.
Let me, before you go, man, let me try and pronounce it and tell me if I get it right.
Okay.
So Gerardo?
Yep.
That's exactly how it is.
Okay, brother.
I'm going to call you by your actual name.
Is that cool with you?
If that's cool with you, I'm going to call you.
Sure.
No problem.
Yeah. Awesome. All right, man right man yeah go ahead man what are your thoughts on the topic yeah thank you for being here man it's a pleasure thank you so much um and i wanted to mention a couple things um
i think well um i like since early ages i writing poetry, started writing songs as well.
It's not what I do for a living.
I mostly do it because I love it.
I never got the chance or the opportunity to start it professionally.
But I still believe that synchronicity to our art and similar artists is part of the process.
to our art and similar artists is part of the process.
Nobody, even the greatest musicians in the world,
no one wake up one day and say,
oh, I can make this great song.
Everybody had an inspiration from someone.
I was finally, I was hearing a story today
because I'm very deep on this creation,
creative process from artists.
And I'm watching this documentary from the Beatles. And McCartney was making a story
about how Lennon came one day with a riff and a guitar for a new song. And then McCartney
said, yo, hold on. But this is exactly chord progression of a song that is from Chuck Berry so they they say okay
well look let's do this the song is good the lyrics are good but what we're gonna do is that
we're going to slow down the beat and I will make a pattern with the bass sorry with the bass and
this is how the word the song come together, came to life.
So the creative process can be very deep,
but you need to love,
and I agree with what Mila was saying before,
you need to love what you do. You really need to be hungry
to achieve that level of perfection that you want to get.
As much as you love it, yes, it's okay.
You may see your guitar every morning pass and not even touch it.
You still love music.
But if you're not hungry for it, you will never achieve
or reach that place where you will feel satisfied.
And I can tell you, when I started writing music or songs or poetry,
I started in Spanish.
Then I decided to change and try to write one
song in English recently. It was very hard for me because when I tried to sing, I couldn't find my
own voice. And when I was playing on the guitar, it was very far from what I had in my mind.
So I had to start listening to a lot of different genres in English, a lot of like, but not listening as a fan,
but listening as a musician, trying to get the riff,
trying to get the beat with my hands,
trying to get my voice because I was sounding very weird.
I never sang in English before.
And yeah, the creative process can be difficult,
but you really need to be hungry for it and you need to explore.
You need to try new things without coming off from your, you know, the things that you align
with, in this case, being the musical genre or type of lyrics that you write that will identify
you as a musician and will put that seal every time somebody hears one of your songs, that's cool, that's okay. But I always try
to explore in this creative process, which I love from musicians, and I'm very excited. Thank you so
much for that giving me the opportunity. Yeah. No, thank you for being here, man. Thank you for being here man thank you for sharing that and you know um i do want to ask you
do you think the things that we do consume you know the creative pursuits that we do consume
from others can help aid with that hunger aid with that creative process what are your thoughts on
that oh yeah i think so yeah i mean i don't i'm gonna I'm not gonna say it's gonna work the same for everyone but I I
don't know I saw uh or I hear when I started hearing a lot of songs from the Beatles or from
um I don't know um uh Bob Dylan or or some of the greatest musicians around I was like okay but how
did this guy wrote that song what what made him write that song? And I was, I was, these guys never dropped the
guitar from their hands. These guys had their guitars in their hands every time. And it's,
it's impressive. So I don't think that you will be in a position where you will be consuming
a creative process from someone else just to do copy their work. No, you have your own flow. You have
your own energy. I do believe in energy and frequencies. And I truly believe that music and
everybody, let's say type of art, being music, painting, poetry, you are just transmitting
feelings, your personal feelings. So it's not like
if you are creating at least for us, and I will include all of us, it's not like if we are doing
a type of music just for commercial purposes. We are putting inside of that piece of art something
from us, from within us, and that is what it will give the authenticity of our work.
So, yeah, I think that's normal and that can work, yeah.
Yeah, Gerardo, you know, I was just thinking plagiarism, right?
Yeah, the consumption of, rather, sorry, the stuff that we do consume,
right? And, you know, the consumption accumulated based on what we've consumed, right? Like,
what if we consume a lot of things to the point that when we do create our own things that we
don't realize that we've not just drawn inspiration, but we've copied? Now, you know,
there's the unintentional piece,
but there's also the intentional piece. And I think to what you were saying, I was just thinking
about that. I was like, man, like, yeah, what about the people who do consume different forms
of creativity and they plagiarize or just different forms of things that influence them?
You could be a news reporter as well. You know other media outlets and then package it in your own way and then sell it to other people for their own consumption. And not just literally selling it, but obviously just telling the people, but putting your own spin to it.
but actually it's not actually being in that flow.
You've actually just copied somebody else.
You know what I mean?
So I do wonder like the intentional
and the unintentional piece to it,
the malevolence versus the benevolence to it.
I'm just being dramatic right now,
but I just thought about your share
and just thought about that.
I was like, huh, yeah, the consumed creativity.
And like, I do wonder like plagiarism or copying
and what does that look like?
Yeah, Gerard or Gerardo, my bad.
Do you want to respond to that?
And then, yeah, guys, I mean, I don't see hands.
Yo, guys, man, I want this stage full.
You know what I mean?
I want this stage full.
So please feel free to come up.
Don't hang Melod BNZ hanging, you know what I mean, and myself, of course.
I don't want the ladies to feel like they just got to chime in every time. I know they want to listen too. Feel free to come up, man,
and vibe with us. Other than that, if it's just going to be us, then it's just going to be popcorn
style for the most part. But yeah, feel free to come up, guys. Don't be shy. If you're a listener
too, this is an interactive space, as always. I didn't do my housekeeping. See, I told you I'm
all over the place today. But make sure to comment down there. Give us your thoughts or anything that you're hearing.
You know, feel free to reflect with us and then maybe we can chime in with some of the comments as well.
OK, yeah, go ahead, Eraru. What are your thoughts, man?
Yeah, I just wanted to mention something quick.
I remember I wrote a song and I had this melody in my head and I go with my guitar and I play the song and I record
the song with my phone and I was like okay I go and call my friends the same one that they used
to go with me to different places we used to play and we used to just hang out and stuff
and I was like just hear this have you heard this melody before uh no I don't think so. Okay. Are you sure? No, I haven't heard it. And I used
to run like about three or four people just to ask them if they have here the melody, because
sometimes it may be something that you don't want to do. Nobody will likes to copy no one else's
work. And I can tell you, it used to be part of that fear when I used to go and try to create something because we are influenced.
And it doesn't have to be only by music.
I know we are influenced by the type of energy that we surround with.
And we are influenced by any other type of art that we will just see.
any other type of art that we will just see.
I like, like, for example, I was writing,
I finished a poem like a while ago
and I wrote that poem while listening
one of the nocturnes from Chopin at 432 hertz
because I'm trying to explore the two frequencies,
the 440 hertz versus 432.
I think you guys may hear something about that.
And I wrote a poem listening to that
classical music. It was awesome. I wrote it in less than 10 seconds, in less than 10 minutes.
And it's one of the poems that I like. And I even mentioned within the poem, I even mentioned
that I am listening while writing the poem I'm
listening to shopping and yeah I think we are influencing in whatever we fit ourselves with
in daily basis not in a bad way I will say in a good way but there is a want to be always always
you know that little that little click that will make you feel like, I am not sure. But anyways, that is why we go and we ask our friends
or people that listen to our music
and try to verify that what we're creating
is not a copy from no one else's work.
Nah, yeah, you know, I mean, I know, I mean, I don't know.
I think I'm safe in saying this, like generalizing it, at least with like with rappers and the hip hop community, for sure.
Like you definitely want to be as creative as you can be.
And you definitely don't want to copy from somebody else or feel like you're copying from someone else.
Or even if you're not, you don't want to feel like there's going to be that perception put upon you.
Like, yo, man, you sound exactly like not no, oh, you sound like an influence from da-da-da-da, but now you sound
exactly like da-da-da-da. And so, I don't know, man, like, hearing you say that, I didn't realize,
maybe because I never get to have these conversations formally, right, with, like,
you know, singers and other, you know, different forms of musicians
out there that, like, do they consume creativity in a way whereby fear comes about? Fear of,
hey, you know, I'm consuming this, and if I'm doing my own work, I don't want to, you know,
sound like someone else, or at least perceive that I'm sounding like someone else on purpose,
you know, just for me to get a quick buck or whatever it is Mel how about you man do you
have you ever had that fear is that fear ever existed for you um that currently no not really
to be honest like I think um hmm like okay sure slightly when I'm in the moment of writing a song there's sometimes a
moment where I'm like huh that kind of sounds like like it's in the same key as a song that I
that I like to listen to or something and I'm singing it I'm like no this is a completely
different melody the lyrics are completely different because it's coming from an authentic
place right like I'm sitting there and I'm not like ever gonna consume for the purpose like you guys were saying some people might
consume for the purpose of plagiarizing but absolutely not like I I in fact like I try
really hard to stray away I think that's why I don't fear it because I just like I try really
really hard to be unique and just to like you know be myself
and be different like be who I am and give what I am so I don't think I've like feared copying
people because I I just don't know what it is to be anybody but myself if that makes sense so
I don't know. Yeah, makes sense.
I mean, if you're giving yourself 100% and you know that's you, you know, throughout your music and you're staying true to that, then, yeah, why would you have that fear in relation to being perceived as someone who's, you know, intentionally plagiarizing from other people's stuff?
So, no, yeah, I think that makes sense.
I see Dr. Christina
is on stage. She has her hand up. I definitely want to go to her. But yeah, I just wanted to,
you know, open up that can, you know, because Gerard Gerardo, man, I want to get used to saying
that. Gerardo, you know, mentioned that, you know, just, it just kind of impacted my thought process
in that here and now moment. I was like,
yeah, copying and plagiarism. What about the consumed creativity and how it impacts our state
of being in that regards, especially in relation to artists and most specifically music artists?
With that being said, I'm going to go to Dr. Christina. Welcome. What are your thoughts on
the topic? Consumed creativity. How does it
impact our state of being? Does it impact our state of being? Is it mumbo jumbo, Dr. Christina?
What are your thoughts? Hey, I got you to laugh. There you go.
You did. You did. Hello, everybody. Hi, Prez, Melibi, Zee. It's good to be here. Melibi,
your name looks really familiar to me
I feel like we've crossed paths before
but I gave you a follow
yeah I mostly am here
just to give some support to
my friend Prez
he's a very good friend and he
is always supporting
me and supporting my husband
Josh Stye
who I think probably a lot of you know,
he's in a lot of spaces. And he's actually the person that I want to talk about. So I'm not,
I'm not going to flex myself, but I will flex my husband because he can't be here. And he wouldn't
do this really for himself either, but he is, he's a songwriter. But it's been just such an interesting journey for him
because he just started writing songs less than a year ago. And if you had told me a year ago
that my husband was going to be a songwriter and has written, he's written close to 200 songs at this point.
I honestly would have laughed because he just like, that was not how I knew him, like not part of his personality, not something he was interested in. I'm a therapist, and I always, like, would encourage him to, like, journal or, like, even
write things down to remember them, and he just, like, would not. Like, he just is not, was not
that kind of person. But it's been so amazing watching this creativity unfold for him that I feel like a lot of it was born out of
he has over the years just had some physical limitations he used to be a very physical guy
he's very I call him a MacGyver he like knows how to do everything he's a mechanic he works on cars
but his physical health has just been compromised over the last
handful of years. And he hasn't been able to do a lot of that physical activity that he used to do.
And he just one day started writing. And the first song that he wrote actually was a song that he wrote for me for my birthday.
And it was just going to be like this kind of one-off random thing.
And he was doing it just to be, you know, sweet.
But there was something that like happened from that.
And I've watched him just really blossom into being this really amazing songwriter.
And that's his journaling.
Like, that's his way of getting his, like, whatever he's going through.
Or I can't remember if it was Zee or Melody that was saying this.
But, like, not necessarily even something that he's experiencing right in this moment.
Though sometimes that's true. But, but like things that he has experienced.
And it's just been really amazing watching that unfold for him.
And he really gets consumed by it.
And I'm not always the best at this, but I am at least trying to learn to like when he is in that zone,
just to like let him do his thing. Cause if I try to interrupt or say anything, like it will
totally throw him off and it might be hard for him to kind of get back into it. So I try to like,
let him do his thing. Um, and, um, and if he wants my help, like listening to like some lyrics or giving my opinion around things, I try to be there for that too.
But so, yeah, like that's just as I'm hearing you guys talk, like I'm thinking about him and I do some writing.
I did a lot more when I was a kid. I love poetry. I love story writing.
I love poetry. I love story writing. I have a book published, but for me, where I get consumed in my creativity is around my interest, which is psychology. And so I feel a lot of the same things that you guys are talking about, but in a totally different genre, so to speak, but it's that same feeling that I have. Like,
it brings me such joy and I get, I can get really consumed with it. Um, and so like my work,
when I'm doing my work, it's not work to me. Like most of the time, sometimes it is,
but most of the time it's just, I get joy out of it. Um, and, um, yeah, that flow state,
like I can get myself into that flow state with,
with my interest and my passion.
And that's a form of creativity too, right?
Just in maybe like a different way.
Um, but I really appreciated, um, the shares so far.
Thank you for giving me, uh, the opportunity to speak and to flex my husband a little bit.
I'm going to throw his website down in the chat bubble.
Um, because again, he won't, he doesn't like't he doesn't like self promoting. But if you guys haven't heard his
stuff, I would really it's really good. And I would encourage you guys to do so. So with that,
I'll make up. Thank you guys. That was the most wholesome share. Oh my god. I'm just over here,
wholesome share oh my god I'm just over here like so happy to hear that you're supporting him the
way you are because um you know being an artist we know it's not easy to support our like sometimes
I do the same thing where I'm like don't talk to me don't look at me I need to be left alone
to my own devices I need to get this out? Like you can't interrupt the flow state.
And I know that that's hard to do as the partner
because my partner's the same way with his own passions.
And I'm like, okay, I can't bug him.
He's working on it.
Like I can't do anything.
So yeah, it's just cool because like for some people,
that creates problems in their relationships. It's hard to be supportive on like, perhaps they're on a journey that to you on the
outside looking in, you're like, and it sounds like this isn't the case for you, but perhaps
for some people, they're on the outside looking in at us and being like, are you sure? Like,
are you sure? Like, not because we're not good at what we do, but because the journey itself
is so like, you know, it's the path that like, you know, has a lot of risk associated with it.
People look at you like, oh, your kid's a musician. My parents' friends at the beginning, for sure, were like, so like, does she make any money?
Like, is she okay?
So yeah, I get it.
And it's so cool to hear that you're like super supportive and he's got to do the self-promo stuff.
It's so helpful. That's literally like it's all about output,
and part of that output is the business side of things.
And if he's really good at what he's doing,
then that's what he should be doing.
That's my belief.
So, anywho, I digress.
Yeah, that's awesome. Thank you, Mella, for reflecting back to Dr. Christina. You know,
Josh is amazing, man. He's an amazing individual. I just want to say that, you know, he's great.
And the fact, you know, one of the surprising things about him, too, just tying it back to the music stuff, he makes those songs super quickly, like very, very quickly.
Like, I know with my own creative thought process, like, it takes me a while.
Usually, unless if I'm in a space like this, you know, I end up getting that, you know, that vibe.
I'm like, all right, I got to write something.
And, you know, Z knows what I'm talking about. And then boom, I just end up writing something, right?
So I do have those like creative bursts that happen like in certain moments and certain
situations, right? But usually I can't just write like that. And then like, I mean, I'm not saying
it won't be quality work, but just the act of writing and how much i have like a perfectionist tendency in my in my soul for lack of better words in my in my sense of being i just feel like now i
can't i can't write like that quickly but like josh he can write songs like super super quickly
and i think that's super amazing because they're not just like super fast like on some fast food
type shit like they're fast but like they're like quality songs too.
So yeah, shout out to him.
And you know, Dr. Christina, I got to tie it back to you though.
I do, I do, because you're up here.
You know what I mean?
So you did mention your work, right?
And how that in itself, you know, how you find creativity
and the things that you consume in that regards as well.
So I do wonder outside of work, but just in relation to psychology, what are some things that you consume
in relation to psychology that impact your state of being? And how do you navigate that creatively?
And how does that even aid maybe even with your work as well? So sorry, that's like a two or
three part question, but I hope that makes sense.
Yeah, no, that's okay. I'm used, Josh asks like five questions at a time, so I'm used to it.
Yeah, I think like the thing that was like that drew me to psychology the most is that,
and I suppose that this can be true for many, many different disciplines, but there's always something new to learn. And so like, I fell in love with learning. And so that was like
something that, you know, just my whole life, I loved school. And if someone, I've said this many
times before, if someone would like have offered to pay me to just go to school
for the rest of my life, like I would do that. Like I would just go and like do all kinds of
different majors and learn all kinds of things because I love learning. But psychology for me,
there's such diversity within the field and there's always, it's always changing and always evolving. So for me, like I find that creativity there of like learning different skills or learning
different theories or techniques or ways to do things like that to me is a part of the
creativity.
Like it helps keep my work to me from becoming boring.
And then I feel like that helps like my clients from
getting bored too, because I don't want to just always be offering like the same thing over and
over and over again. Now, granted, like a lot of things like work really well, right? So like
in general, like being able to like relax your body and do some deep breathing. Like those are good things. Those are
just kind of core foundational techniques. Right. But I think, um, you know, to me, like there,
there's a lot that it goes far beyond just like talk therapy. There's, you know, somatic ways of
processing through things. There's art therapy, there's play therapy. Um, you know, there's so much that is just, there's ways of processing through things that doesn't
have to be done in words or that doesn't have to be done verbally.
Like, and that's what I was like saying with Josh too.
Like he will, like his songwriting is like therapy for him.
Like it's a way to get things out. So, um, I find that I'm really never bored and I'm always trying to seek out
ways to improve myself or ways to learn something new. Um, and I get a lot out of the,
you know, one of the things that I provide is I do assessments. I do psych, um, and neuropsych
and diagnostic assessments. And I love that. It's like and neuropsych and diagnostic assessments.
And I love that.
It's like putting, it's like figuring out pieces of a puzzle. Like everyone's brain is different.
And so being able to look at somebody's like unique results and unique profile and figure
out like what that means for them, whether that be like, you know, identifying a diagnosis,
but even just beyond that,
like just helping a person like understand
kind of like the way that their brain works
and why they are the way they are.
That to me, like that's my,
one of my favorite things to do.
And report writing, like that's something that like,
sometimes people hate that part of it,
but like, I love it. Cause to me, like that's putting all of the pieces of the puzzle together.
So, you know, that, that to me is, like, that creative expression, and it's a way for me to
put, because I do love writing, so it's a way to get, like, that element of my creativity out there,
too. It's very different than, than like writing a novel or a poem or
like an educational book, but I try to pack my reports with like education. So it's not just
like, here's your results. It's like, here's what you do with this. Like, here's what this means
for you. And here's like what you can do knowing this
right offering some of those resources or strategies so um i don't know if that fully
answered all of your questions but those are like some of the things that came to mind for me
no that was awesome thank you you actually just reminded me it something, something about I'm about to do this upcoming semester.
But before I touch on that, yeah, you know, you know, look at my bio, right?
You know, I literally say the more I learn and know, the more I don't know.
And, you know, I think to your point about psychology and just these different fields.
And I know AJ is definitely a huge fan of that point this idea
of that we don't know and we just talk about things like we know but we don't know shit
you know uh but like in a general sense like there are things that we do know right in in terms of
like two plus two equals to four fine but then there's so much to discover. And yeah, Dr. Christina, in relation to psychology,
it's such an over-evolving field. It keeps on evolving, evolving, and there's all these
different techniques and theories that are coming out. And I guess as a clinician as well,
even if you are fundamentally stuck with one approach, right, you can, you know, integrate these other different
things, right? I think in psychology, they call it what? Integrative. It used to be called eclectic,
but just being integrative in one's approach, right? And so I think that's what Dr. Christina
was kind of highlighting and just the importance of recognizing, yeah, man, you can get creative
with it and your clients too, right? Your clients as well can, like, honor and recognize that. Because I think part of the, this is my perception here, the general stigma towards, you know, being against or the attitudes towards psychology, you know, being for it, right, is that, you know, the talk therapy thing. And it's just this idea that all forms of therapy always
go through that direction. And there's no other like, variations to it, even if it is just talk
therapy. But I think it's not true. I think it depends who on the clinician and their overall
framework that they subscribe to while integrating all these different approaches. So I think, yeah,
man, I think that definitely makes
sense to me, Dr. Christina, and, you know, being able to find creativity in that sense and consuming
creativity in that sense, too. What I was going to say is I'm taking an elective this semester
and it's on, but it's so weird, guys. It's super weird. Like the timing of it and the structure of
it is weird. I don't know how it's going to be, but it's like a term two course, but it's on, but it's so weird, guys. It's super weird. Like the timing of it and the structure of it is weird.
I don't know how it's going to be, but it's like a term to course.
But it's on art therapy with families.
And so I'm like super, super like excited to see like how, you know, what I can learn, what I can consume.
Right.
And see like how that can like influence my perceptual lens of things and like creativity and how, I don't know, maybe I can use that,
not just like in therapy, but just like with conversations and people and just learn, right?
So I'm super excited, even though I know the structure is going to be weird, but I won't
get into that for now. But Dr. Christina, when you mentioned art therapy and play therapy
as well, it just made me thought of that as well. So thank you for sharing. I appreciate you answering my question.
You answered everything that I wanted and needed.
So I feel satisfied.
Gerardo was talking about the word satisfaction.
I feel satisfied with your response.
And I appreciate you being here, supporting the space.
And tell Josh, shout out to him and give him my regards.
I hope he's doing well.
Yeah, feel free to respond if you'd want to. Go ahead. Yeah. I just wanted to say he would be here. Um, he is, he's napping.
He's been in, he's actually been in spaces for most of the day. And I was like, you need to like
go rest. So sometimes I have to help, help him take care of himself, but I know he would be here.
And that's like why I wanted to talk
about him, too, and I'm going to need to hop off in just a little bit, too, so I wanted to just say
a polite goodbye instead of just, like, randomly, like, awkwardly leaving, but I'll hang out for a
little bit longer. This has been a really fun space. Thank you for having me.
No, thank you. No, thank you for being here. And yeah, well, I appreciate you doing
that for him, you know, making sure, you know, he, you know, he needs to take a rest. And sometimes
we need that, man. We need that, you know, that like, hey, man, can you go take a rest? You just
need to, because sometimes I talked about autonomy, right? We do exercise autonomy, but
sometimes we might exercise it in a way whereby it's not always the most productive. And that's
why having a lovely partner, having a lovely wife, a person alongside a person that can help us,
you know, get through those moments and tell us, hey, when we need to rest, we need to rest
is always helpful. So thank you, Dr. Christina. And thank you for also bringing your time and energy and emotional currency to the space as well. So you
know me, man, I'm always down for talking psychology. I know you are too. So I appreciate
you bringing those insights in relation to what you consume and creativity. So yeah, feel free to
hang out with us until you, you know, you got a dip,
but I appreciate you being here. Um, I see AJ is on stage. How's it going, bro? How are you doing,
man? What's good, brother? What's good? Talk to me. How's school? How's everything? What's good,
man? Hey, bro, hold up, man. Are you on the plane right now? I thought you were traveling. I'm just getting out of the pool right now.
Oh, pool.
Okay.
All right.
I thought you were traveling.
My bad.
Yeah, man.
What's good?
Yeah.
You got to do the creative spaces.
There's going to be two people in this world.
The people that get left behind.
The people that are distracted.
The people that are focusing on everything that's like going to pull them back into hell.
And there's going to be the creators, the creators that focus of what they want.
I'm telling you that at the very, very top levels, the elite don't give a shit about
anything.
All they care about is what they want and they pull their resources.
They pull their intention and they get it all the time.
But if you could do that individually, just focus on what you want and forget all the time but if you could do that individually just focus on what you want and
forget all the rest don't let anything pull at your heartstrings because everybody's trying to
save everybody behind them but you'll eventually get swallowed up in it the only way you're going
to save people is creating bring things into the simulation that are beautiful that make it better
like melody's music prez like you and like Taylor's doing Taylor's building something
unbelievable, you know,
and ZZ's always creating it and just bringing that light in and Bridget and
everybody else. But, uh, yeah, man, yo, appreciate it. Love you guys.
I'm here. I'm just jumping in the pool.
I'm here. I'm just jumping in the pool.
You should have left your mic on. I want to hear the,
I want to hear a cannonball
All right, wait one second. Hold on one second. Yeah, let's get a cannonball
Wait, is the phone waterproof like is he gonna just my phone is on its last leg anyway
Video goes out everything. I don't even know but yeah, hold on
It goes out, everything. I don't even know.
But yeah, hold on.
You guys like really waiting for it? Why don't you talk a little bit?
Yeah, we're waiting.
Because what if we miss it?
What if we miss it?
Alright, here we go.
They don't think I can do a cannonball.
On the radio.
On the show.
On the show. I call it a show.
On the radio.
On the spaces with the other lost souls
Alright here we go
You ready you listening
Yeah
I scared the shit out of everybody
Do you hear that
I should stream that right
I didn't hear anything.
How about you?
You didn't hear nothing?
I jumped the highest I could jump, which was like two inches.
So, I don't know.
It's the best I have.
Well, anyways, that was anticlimactic.
I'm sorry.
I thought that was good, too.
I got up out of the water.
I thought everyone was going to be cheering me
I got out and that's it, dead
Dead silence
Story of my life
Now I can't even shut the mic off
I might have to leave guys
This is wet
Nah AJ, I got a question for you bro
Well, it's back to the topic pretty much
What are some creative pursuits
That you consume
That impact your state of being
you know i tell you what i'm gonna be honest i like investing and that's a creative pursuit
because investing you got to get a little creative here and there especially when it
comes to like real estate some other investments you, you got to get creative. And, um, you know, are you guys hear me? I like doing that. However,
I really found a fondness of writing. What happens when I start writing, I get in the
channeling state. I think Mello was talking about it earlier. And then some other things
are coming through. That is what all these people knew from the beginning of time.
You get in these zones, these brainwave states.
You become almost superhuman in a way.
You're getting words and messages you never would have got.
You're saying things you never would have said.
And all of a sudden you create magic.
But what's creating it?
What is that?
And whatever it is, it's getting in that brainwave state.
So I like investing. I um startups i'll invest in i'll uh you know build something over
here do something over there write a book over here do this over there you know i don't know
what about you guys
no yeah investing man um i definitely need to learn more about that like i mean there's some
things like i've invested before like with bonds and like stuff in another country
but other than that like because my mom knows like a lot about that stuff like because she
is a businesswoman so she's like very, you like saying sharp back home,
but she's very, very sharp with that stuff.
But like, I mean, yeah, I always hear about people talking about stocks
and all that stuff.
And then like you think about crypto,
I do not know anything about that at all.
You know, I just hear different conversations.
Oh, Mello's the crypto queen.
Mello's the crypto queen.
Oh, for real?
Oh yeah, Web3, right?
Web3, yeah.
Shout out to Web3, man.
But, you know, I'm always down to learn.
I'm always down to consume, you know, people's knowledge, right, and learn because I think it's important, right?
And I think there's never such thing as, you know, waiting until tomorrow, right?
waiting until tomorrow, right? You better just start now. So now, yeah, AJ, great point, you
You better just start now.
know, the importance of investing and how that in itself can be a form of creativity consumed. So
thank you. And just a creative state, just doing something creative. This is what I've learned.
I don't care if you're building a frigging birdhouse, you're building a birdhouse outside,
all of a sudden you have this like inspiration that comes to you out of nowhere. And that
inspiration leads to a door that you open up that door, it leads to another idea. Then all of a sudden, you have this, like, inspiration that comes to you out of nowhere. And that inspiration leads to a door.
You open up that door, it leads to another idea.
Then all of a sudden, that idea leads to a certain person.
A certain person leads to this and that.
And it's really, I think it's how the simulation is designed.
I can't hear him.
I can hear him.
Yeah, my phone's all wet.
I could hear him.
That's weird.
Usually it's his end.
I don't know.
I got it.
Yeah, I'm just saying the creative state opens up the doors to our greatest life.
It really does.
The people, right people come in at the right time, all that shit.
I believe that.
I'm a firm believer of it.
And I'll end it.
It's almost, you just kind of reminded me of something that I think about a lot, to be honest.
And I try to remind myself, like, what I focus on expands.
So, like, where you place, it's literally, it's literally what it is.
Like, what you place your focus on will get bigger.
I'll just leave it there.
Yeah, I'll just keep going with that because it's really like what you focus on, it's like a belief
thing too. I know in my life, I was focusing on small tasks. I didn't believe I could get the
task done. But then once you get one task done, then it's like, all right, what else could I do? Then you
increase your level of ability and your level of expectation, and then you reach that and
you're like, oh shit, what else could I do? And when that keeps going and going, that's
really the recipe for doing great things. And yeah, Mela's doing great things. Wow,
it's great to see that in real time.
I appreciate that, Mela.
And I appreciate you, Press.
Yeah, thank you, AJ.
Thank you for being here.
And you're right, Mela's definitely doing great things.
Mela, don't forget to post your stuff down there.
So for people to tap in, you know what I mean?
And yeah, man, I'm i'm excited man i'm excited for
this full-on album rollout you know definitely definitely excited for it so i see dominic is on
stage dominic man how are you doing it's been a while since i've dominic what's good hey what's
up bro it's been a while since him and i've talked you doing, bro? I'm doing good. I appreciate you, bro.
Yeah, I just, it's crazy. We're talking about creativity and stuff. I feel like I manifested a person to come into my life, and it kind of shook my existence a little bit because I asked
Source Energy. I had this whole moment probably two weeks ago. Oh, no, actually not two
weeks ago. Probably a week before I met the person, but this is six weeks ago, seven weeks ago.
I had this whole meditative team meeting with all my spiritual guides, my angels,
and Source Energy and God and all that. And I'm sitting there like, this is what I want. I want
somebody like this, like this, like this, like this. You know, I'm like laying out the groundwork. And this is called like imprinting the subconscious,
which everybody should be doing. Like write down stuff, imprint your subconscious with like ideas
and watch how your subconscious can like manifest through like quantum entanglement and all this
stuff. But anyways, so to catch you up, I kind of dipped from spaces and I kind of pulled away from social because I got like real life 3D shit happened where somebody came into my orbit, came into my auric field.
And it was like instant soul core recognition where I was like, what the fuck?
Like it genuinely took me a second after the first meeting where I had to take a big pause and be like, what the fuck just happened?
Because I felt like I got like a typhoon just knocked my ass over. I was like, where did she come from? So then this,
you know, we met again. It was more confirmation, affirmation. I'm just like, okay, so this is,
this is not just like random. This isn't a coincidence. It wasn't like I was searching
and on dating apps and shit.
It just kind of happened organically.
So that's where I've been.
I've just been kind of like, you know, falling organically and just letting things flow.
So I do appreciate, you know, coming back to the space, seeing a lot of familiar faces.
I know you came into the dating space last night.
I appreciate you stopping in and showing support.
AJ, too.
AJ, the more he talks, yo, we're so alike, bro.
Like, I don't know if it's a New York thing.
I don't know if it's an NYC thing.
Because, bro, I'm telling you, AJ, people out here on the West Coast, they are not like that.
They're not like us.
Oh, hell no.
There's nowhere.
Everywhere I go.
Yeah.
That's it.
We're just running circles around everybody.
Everybody, bro.
That's why i'm
gonna take over this whole world i think i don't know i'm just like yeah no you got with you you
got to take over these like hillbillies and shit what are we doing that's why trump is took over
the world he's a new york guy he's just like this is ridiculous let me just take over the world yeah
no i i definitely think it's something about new york city that like definitely imprints like that
go-getter mentality into us.
And it's also like a little bit of the Italian background, too.
I think it's a lot of things, but it's a perfect storm.
But yeah, no, I've been busy at Prez just with like, you know, obviously that.
I caught everybody up. I met somebody really cool.
We're really working out. Be happy for the kid.
So, yeah, came by to say hello. You know, saw you throwing a dope space. It'd been
going on for an hour. If you want to ask me a creativity question or something, and then maybe
I can reflect something. Nah, yeah, for sure. You know, first off, you know, I know tomorrow you and
Simone got a space coming up. Yes, I was going to mention that. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, you know, I know tomorrow you and Simone got a space coming up.
Yes, I was going to mention that.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
You want to talk about that real quick before I ask you a question?
Yeah.
No, Simone's so sweet.
Like, I'm so thankful for, like, everybody that, like, from this app that has, like,
come into my orbit and just, like, added value to my life.
And Simone was somebody who reached out to me just like weeks
and weeks and weeks ago and just left me really sweet voice messages. And we connected and she
liked something I had said in a space about like action being the real apology that, you know,
words really don't mean anything, that you have to show it. And she was like so inspired that she
wanted to throw a space and asked me to co-host with her, which I was like, uh, yeah, duh. Oh, of course I'll do that. So that time has come tomorrow. We're going
to throw a space with Simone being the leader. Um, we're going to do some like breath work,
talk about, you know, how action is the real apology, how that affects us, how, you know,
maybe you had experience with that receiving or giving. giving. So yeah, I think it's going
to be a fun conversation. I think it's going to be an interesting reflection for everybody to kind
of share. And I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to that one.
Now, yeah, that's what's up, man. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Shout out to Sister Simone
down there. If y'all ain't got nothing better to do, definitely support that space.
I think it's going to be fire.
You know.
And we got Bridget down there.
Hi, Bridget.
I see you.
And Barbara.
Seattle in the house.
Oh, yeah, man.
Xavier.
All the familiar.
What's up, Simon?
All the familiar.
Hi, for everybody that's here, man.
For sure.
Let's see. We got Citizen. You got to say hello? All the familiar. Hi, for everybody that's here, man. For sure. Let's see.
We got Citizen.
You got to say hello like a New Yorker.
Where for?
Yeah, Romeo.
You got to say your.
Your.
All right, hold on.
I got you, man.
Well, I can't say it like a New Yorker.
I'm going to just say it like Prez.
But, you know, we got.
Let me hear the your.
No, I'm not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.
But we got Citizen.
We got Collectively.
We got Ab.
We got Zombie.
We got Xavier.
Ezra El has been here the whole time.
We got Lady Hawk.
Oh, Lady Hawk, I haven't seen you in a minute.
Welcome.
We got Soul, of course.
Mighty Soul.
You know, we got Bridget.
We got Romeo.
What's good, Romeo?
Bright Lord, Simone, Automation, Seattle, Sister Brenda, Barbara, of course.
Steve is here on stage and Rose is on stage and everybody else has been here, man.
But yeah, man.
And Z said she got cut off.
She's in a storm right now.
She's sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's all good i understand
um but yeah dominic i was just gonna say the uh what was it the whole dating app thing yeah that
i'm glad that uh you know your current situation right now didn't come from that route not that
there's anything wrong with that because there has been success stories through that but like hey you know it seems like what's going on
for you right now is more aligned so shout out to you man that's that's super dope but i was
thinking too bro i know you do music and stuff yes have you been um listening to anything lately
that's been inspiring you have been consuming anything Do you want to get back to it or have you just been focusing on your current situation? Interesting. No, no. I mean,
you know, my current situation with the relationship is cool, but I'm always like
forward thinking. I'm like AJ, bro. I'm a creator. I'm always like looking to invest. I'm always
looking to make more money, make more connections, make more, you know, just my life that I want to always add value. I do have music that I want to roll out a whole.
I have like a whole, whole, whole, whole, whole idea for that. So for me, I want to be like a
Diplo, like a Calvin Harris right now in the midst of securing the funds to get everything rolled out the way
I want to do it. I'm going to need at least like half a million to $600,000 to pay for the label,
the marketing, the distributors, for the features, for the production, for the mastering of the
tracks, for everything that I want to do the way I want to do it. Because I'm not going to half
ass it. Once I put my ass in, I'm going to put my full ass in. So it's going to be cool. I'm not going to half-ass it. Once I put my ass in, I'm going to put my full ass in.
So it's going to be cool.
I'm excited.
It's going to take a bit for me to kind of get everything together.
But I'm in the final process of securing everything that I need to do.
And then once I have those funds, I'm going to go full in on it.
I have a team everywhere.
We're all on board.
We're all going to get, you know, things moving.
So you guys are actually probably some of the first people to hear this.
I've been like, I really keep things to myself and like under the wraps.
I really don't like talking about stuff until it's here.
But since it's kind of organic that you asked and, you know, I see Mela B does music too.
So maybe we can throw her on a feature someday or, you know, I see Mela B does music too. So maybe we can throw her on a feature someday,
or, you know, we can collab. I'm always down to like, you know, bring in other artists and,
you know, add value to each other. I've been consuming a lot of Rufus Dussault. If you guys
don't know who Rufus Dussault is, please go fucking listen to Rufus Dussault, bro. Like,
listen to the Surrender album or another one, Inhale, Exhale.
Such a, literally beautiful music. Very adult and just amazing. So I've been listening to a lot of
that. That gets my creative juices flowing. Let's see. What else you got for me, President?
Nah, man. I'm just listening. I actually want to write that down rufus the soul and you know
probably listen to it tonight myself yeah they're great no and yeah that's dope you know i was just
thinking about meli b as you were sharing your story i was like i wonder if meli has any thoughts
in terms of like you know what you're doing and you know her experiences as a independent artist
as well and i don't know on my on my end, I'm all for collaboration,
however that looks like.
So, I mean, if y'all end up collaborating, cool.
But I know you said you do rap, you do vocals.
Always looking for vocals, bro,
because especially if I'm doing a DJ push,
I'm going to always need new vocals.
So I can get you pride on anything.
No, yeah, I'm always down, man.
In fact, yo, honestly, I want to work on my own music as well.
But I think the reason why my passion hasn't been matching my output in that regards is because I don't have, like, someone to mix and master my stuff.
Like, I feel like if I just get someone to do that, like, boom, I'm like right there.
I'm going to give you all some sauce.
Y'all want to hear some sauce?
If you ever make a track, your track is typically going to come in at about 300 to 400 hertz.
If you want to make it a love song, all you have to do is pitch it up to 528 hertz.
And that is the love frequency all of a
sudden now you got a banger track boom i want a melody dark song i just want a melody dark song
that's all i want are you saying some techno dark yeah like a melody dark song like i don't know like like evanescence like
yes but darker okay you want like death metal
scary like it's scary like you know they make songs scary yeah yeah yeah like an eerie okay
how about we something haunting yeah we'll write something haunting.
And AJ, you're going to be a producer.
You'll be in the studio telling us, oh, no, you got to do this.
You got to do that.
You'll be the producer.
Oh, you get into the mind of the man, man.
And then that's it.
We add like sounds of him screaming in the background with like heavy reverb and echo.
It's going to be like the Halloween like anthem. I can hear it already.
I just want to hear a Joker laugh from him and just have him ad lib laughing
throughout the track. Yeah. Just like this evil laugh. Fuck. Yeah.
Let's do it. We're going to get you in the studio for that.
For sure. Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you, Prez. I appreciate you, bro.
Nah, thank you, man. I appreciate you too. And yeah, I think AJ ad-libs in the studio
will definitely be dope for sure, man. But yeah, I see we got Rose and Steve on stage.
And if anybody wants to come up, feel free to do so.
We're just chilling.
We're just vibing.
Mella, I want to honor your time too.
So however long you have as well.
And if you want to sing for us,
the reason why I didn't play any of your songs to begin with
is because I was like, you know what?
Why should I do that when we got the live voice?
If she wants to. So Mella, you know what why should I do that when we got the live voice if she wants to so yeah not right now like let's do let's let's keep chatting I'm like I'm not um in a rush to
leave so I can go for as long as you want oh no no yeah I mean I meant like later like oh perfect
okay cool yeah not gonna lie just ate something super. So singing at this moment was not ideal.
So thank you.
Got to warm up the pipes.
Yeah, I'll jump in.
So yeah, I was smiling because I'm happy that Dominic's happy and I'm happy when other people are happy.
So that brought a smile.
And how am I creative as a mom of six?
I am, you know, I'm not really looking for money or really connection, too much connection, you know, outside of what I got.
So we just have a little like we have like an actual building that's yellow and it's just for crafting.
So it's just you can write on the walls, you can paint on the walls, you can draw with chalk on the floor.
There's like recycled bottles and there's just, there's all recycled stuff from doing so many storage units.
We recycle a lot of stuff that we find in there and reuse it and stuff.
And like so much stuff. Oh my gosh.
So many paintbrushes.
Like you never have to wash a paintbrush.
Okay.
Like I know that sounds bad, but like whatever.
And then we have like a little shop at the road.
So we have like little like that's like an area where we do like a little sister circle.
And so it's kind of more like of an intentional space
it's kind of like renaissance-y vibe like it's just like an art and like little jewelry and like
other people's business cards other people's like children's who have small businesses things and
like gathered from for quite a while and throughout many other connections and then um we also like just you know
i used to get oh my god i used to get so out of my head like thinking like one time i went all around
my city and put flyers up for a drums community drum circle and i also got banned off of a dating app that I created for the intention
of sharing said flyer I went I joined the dating app to share the flyer for the community drum
circle that is legendary that is legendary you are a legend everybody i'm there yes girl i was trying to
connect all the people but guess what so like okay you gotta say this all over okay this is
a story this is just a story um okay so i'm using i'm using chat gbt i'm like from the beginning
okay okay i'm using chat gbt i'm like give me a perfect picture of this
little like rainbow and this drum circle and all this stuff make it pretty and i made a flyer
and i printed it out went all around like um kind of like the city but it was like gonna be hosted
at the local park close to me and um so i went out and I put so much effort into putting all these flyers everywhere
and I was like blah blah blah and I joined a dating app and I was sharing the flyer of the
community drum circle and DMing it and like spamming it all over this app and I was banned like immediately. And then, so the day comes and we go to the park
and I'm like, all right, let's see who shows up. Right. And I think, I do think that one person
showed up because they saw the flyer. One, one mom showed up because she saw the flyer and her name is moon. And then, um, the thing that made it amazing, the best part of it
was that, um, this little boy came up and he must've been like nonverbal autistic or something.
And he came up and he laid down, like he sat down, like he wanted that drum man, like he just wanted that drum or whatever.
And his mom was like, is this okay? Is this okay? I'm like, yeah, that's why we're all here, you know, blah, blah, blah.
And as soon as he started beating that drum, I just like, oh my God, I just like started crying in the park and it all hit me.
I was like, I put so much effort into creating all of this into doing
all this but like all you have to do is go to the fucking park with a wagon full of instruments like
all these and put your blanket out and now we have one of those like super rainbow like um circle
parachutes that you had like in elementary school in the gyms so we like drag them around in the park on that
and like so that's what we did this summer but now it's on to the byoi which is my new thing
and it's simple stupid as well and it's basically a trailer uh that i have like an old trailer i'm
putting like a little karaoke stage up there and it's just gonna be a
B-O-Y-I it stands for bring your own instrument and that's how I'm gonna try to get like my little
country community together and it's just me and my best friend and that's how I face life is like
me my best friend her children and just freaking that's it. Like, I'm just so happy I have one
good friend. And you know what I mean? And so can I ask you a question? Yeah, yeah. Can I is this
space? Like, it sounds like this space is perfect to put on like, a show. Like if I were to play there is that possible
dude I have had that's been a dream of mine for a long time is to just do like a
which I will say is a one night only because in Oklahoma if you stay over 48 hours I have to
legally evict your ass so you're not staying longer than that um but anyway but yeah
it's always been a dream because my first love is an amazing artist oh my god like i have i have
literally visited him and just like like it's like this monogamy thing and stuff all that like it's not about music is not about sex music
is not about anything but love like it's pure unconditional love music and
yeah I've that's been a dream for a long time is like get him to come here with his babies and him, you know, him do his thing.
And like, there's a lot of local people too. Like, um, I, I wouldn't know too many of them,
but I know they exist. And I've, I mean, they're obviously there's people that do open mics and
stuff and all that all the time. And it'd be amazing because you see that little tip jar up
there, you know, and you know,
it'd be great to do like an online. I wanted to make, I want,
they should have X on the radio. We should have X radio, X radio. Okay.
And then you tune in and it's just the best conversations that are happening on
X, the best, like, and then like, like,
and then you can flip it and it could be
like a karaoke space or whatever is going on music space you know whatever
but like it's like a talk show but it's like also music also it's everything on
X brought like the best of X brought to the radio that would be that would be
ideal
and you just drop the mic like that Rose, it's like that.
I wrote about that like a year, 18 months ago, had that idea, wrote it out.
Everything, every idea that you have, just come up with it talk say it out loud and let it go and know that
some way some way somehow somewhere some who is going to do that and you're gonna see it someday
and you'll be like oh my god there is a herd of people outside of cbs in town holding signs that are saying fuck big pharma right now and i'm like
okay um you know it's just it's funny because like i get on my thing and i'm like i need to
get a video camera and i need to go to walgreens and i need to go and confront the pharmacist and
ask him how many covid vaccines he's given everybody this past year like no dude like no i had the thought like people should be out there
doing whatever you know but and then they did so but i'm just saying i don't have to do it we don't
have to do everything just do what you love to do do what feels good in your heart and like aj said
just vibe with the day one thing leads to another book, you open a book randomly into a random chapter.
It goes from that.
It goes from that to a card.
It goes, you know, it goes everywhere all around.
That's the thing.
It's not a phone.
It's not a device in your pocket.
It's not AI.
It's not any of that.
And now there is a threshold.
There's definitely a threshold.
So just embrace it.
Just embrace it and say, fuck the old.
Fuck the old.
Okay?
Like, not actually, like, in a pleasurable way, but just, like, a middle finger to the air.
And then just live your life with good in your heart.
And just seeking and feeding the good, feeding the good part of your
brain, feeding the good part of your body, feeding the good part, you know, feeding good things to
your body. And yeah, so I mean, the old can fall away. I'm, I'm really sick of it. So, and I've
been, I mean, I've been, you know, so, and I think everyone can kind of, she's a little, she's a little nuts, okay?
We don't really know what to think about that girl.
But I enjoy music, and I think that's the future, and I love Melody's stuff, and I love listening to it with my baby girls, like, just playing it and just i i i what i need to do for my first byoy is just have
them like playing your music and just like with the little microphone and like learning the lyrics
like that would be so cute please send me a video of that i won't post it anywhere don't worry
yeah i was like i said that today i was like no i'm done i'm done with that too.
I was like, I said that today.
I was like, nah, I'm done.
I'm done posting pictures of my children.
I locked it down after people were like, oh my God, I can't believe.
And then, yeah, I locked it down, but I'm, I'm, I can't, I can't share.
Like it's, it is private and I'm, I am a private person, but I also overshare way too much.
But like when it comes to intimacy, I just like, when it comes to intimacy, like I give
birth alone in my bathtub.
Okay.
Like I know how to do some things like, like with intensity, you know, and.
Wait, did you just casually drop that you give birth in a tub by yourself?
Yeah. It doesn't play around. Yeah. That's tub by yourself yeah yeah that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying and i built this place for a fucking reason i moved here right up right before covid like what two like a month or two off grid i was
like god was like get out of that place and go spend some time traveling the country before
everything goes to shit and then i bought a piece of raw land and I built it from that up. I mean, I didn't,
I had a little help, but I'm, I mean, uh, you know, my husband, I don't think he gets enough
credit. Um, but yeah. And, uh, that's it. We've just been sitting back and kind of waiting for
all the moments, but we've hosted homeless
people and strangers and weird people off twitter and had bad things and good things um from that
how did that go how did some of the bad things go well i learned what like a real like witch was
uh for the first time in my life and my mom had oh
My god, she she was watching like eyes wide shut and stuff and like I don't know it was just it was so bad
It was so scary
That's why I'm a little eerie of California always sorry Dominic, but I'm sorry guys, but yeah, I don't know
Always sorry, Dominic, but I'm sorry guys. But yeah, I don't know. She went on to get married
right away and quickly fall in love with someone that, you know, hopefully that just led her right
to the right person and whatever. And it was just kind of like when the vibe doesn't vibe
and you don't want to be there and it's not really, you know, it's kind of hard. It's kind
of hard, but I i learned that but it did
have to come to like like my mom came to visit and my mom was like you know that this is like
not like you i don't know she told me about um the movie single white female have you seen that
single white female that was the that was kind of the vibe so she
kind of came to like kill harm and destroy or something I don't know but I learned it for
like the first time that people actually do weird things behind your back and like I don't know it's
just weird but uh when I I like I can confront I, I can talk, but then it's like, if you know that the person is lying, then I just, I'm not going to give you my energy anymore.
So then it kind of just makes it awkward, right?
It's like, okay, I'm going to go on about my day and enjoy my day, but I'm not really going to like spend so much time, you know, with you because you're a liar you know so it gets a little awkward but it it all
it all is ends up where it is and honestly i've had i've seen a lot of people like have differences
and stuff and i've always been the one be to be like we just need to get like whatever i don't
even know what the phrase is but like all I say is like get along
to get along I don't know what the actual phrase is but I'm like we all just got a vibe because
trust me dude like you have no idea what's at stake
yeah thank you Rose um there was a lot there to unpack um the x radio thing would be interesting
just going back to that you know that would be interesting tuning into different stations you
know whether it's music or politics if that's what people want to tune into or whatever it is
but yeah you know i think doing
good finding good you know finding good in others and you know having music be a representation of
that too and kind of like you were saying i think music is i don't know it goes above and beyond
even just the emotions that we associate with or the actions that we might
associate it with too you know whether it's intimacy whether it's you know even happiness
or sadness like i think music going back to like channeling and the frequency you know side of
things too i think it just goes into that realm of things. Like it transcends even emotions itself. So yeah, Rose, thank you for sharing. Shout out to your kiddos as well.
I'm pretty sure, you know, you probably have to get creative as well in your own way as a mama
and just, you know, observing them and, you know, maybe perhaps they got to be creative with
themselves too, you know, being around loads of siblings as well but yeah i think yeah creativity just comes in so many different ways
but um i see we got steve on stage but i'm gonna go to aj real quick and then after aj
we'll go to steve strange what's good aj um yeah i just want to say uh uh you know music it's kind of crazy music if you think about it
like when things are bad music it like uplifts you when things are good music it uplifts you
everywhere of our lives we always have like music that just makes the world such a better place i
think music is probably one of the greatest things of reality of existence. And what do you know that
the codes of physical reality, they're repeating codes, they're harmonic. And it's just like,
it's so genius. And I feel like the creative people know this at the soul level. Like I feel
Melody knows this at the soul level. And no matter what's going on in the world, you ever see
Titanic, the ship was going down. But what did those guys do?
Those guys played music all the way to the end.
And it's just like, and you hear a song, you haven't heard of a song in 20 years.
But it brings you to that time, to that place, where you were at that moment, feeling what you feel.
Unbelievable.
I just have to get it off my chest.
This is how I imagine New Earth just starting.
There's just a faint sound of drumming,
and, like, everyone's popping up little drum circles,
and they, like, go venture, and there's fire,
and people just go, and then there's, like, an outdoor kitchen,
and no one ever has to leave because there's food, people, music, and fire.
And that's it.
And then just ignore everything else.
But we'll see.
You know, they did.
At one point during something that was going up in, like, the East Coast, there was, like, the idea.
Or maybe it was Tennessee or something.
There was, like, the church service that never ended, they were calling it.
And it's because, like, everyone stayed after church and, like, never left. And they they were calling it and it's because like everyone
stayed after church and like never left and they all just kept praying and stuff like i just want
to play music and just do that like we're not gonna be able to change the world and overnight
ourselves or we could if we believed we could with music and love and blah blah blah we could we could just play
music and believe it we could open up another reality like we could do that we could play a
one out of 100 monkey thingy like we could just we could try i mean there's a reason that festivals
don't go out of business yeah i feel like everybody just wants to vibe at the end of the day.
We all just want to vibe. Be at peace. Listen to music. Chill. I'm going to be honest. I like to
be rolling my ass off on Molly with some mushrooms in my system.'m just i'm being that and then like somebody's
smoking a blunt i'm like can i hit it they're like sure i'm like literally it's it's it's so fun
it's just it's a feel-good energy for sure yeah i think it's like at our essence if we're all
um frequency vibration resonance and uh we're all just like living this life, bouncing off of other
people's frequencies and different levels. You know what I mean? If that's the case, then like
getting a bunch of people together in one space to listen to really loud music and just like all
just like share in that energy. And it's just crazy when you think about it
it's like a little silence experiment you're in the space i don't know it's cool yeah i don't know
it's there's something to be said about music there it's like this universal love like someone
said it's this universal language that um you know i I've said it in other spaces, so I
apologize if I'm repeating myself, but you don't need to be like singing in a
specific language for people to understand the energy that you're giving
off. Just like a song doesn't need lyrics to begin with. You can just, you know,
whatever you interpret it to be is what it is, and that's
the coolest thing about music, but it's kind of like that's life itself. Whatever you interpret
this life to be is what it is for you. So, I don't know, it's like this little metaphor
type of thing I love that song
it's so good
I was gonna say
Prez does this feel like a good time
for a song break
only because Prez, does this feel like a good time for a song break?
Yeah, we can definitely do a song break and then we'll go to Steve Strange and then Bright Lord after.
Yeah, okay, let's go to Steve Strange and Bright.
I was thinking about... Josh down there, Josh is very creative.
Hey, Josh.
AJ, imagine if there was, and maybe there is, right?
But imagine if there was such a thing as alien music.
Imagine the type of music or sound frequencies that, you know, they would be listening to.
That's just one thing.
There is.
Oh, there is, huh?
There is.
Just listen to some sub-tronics, bro.
The sounds of the planet.
You haven't even heard my one-hit one-hit.
Well, I've heard of the sounds of the planet thing, but like, I'm talking about like, like, imagine if they were, well, I guess that, you know, I can't use human behavior and correlate it to whatever alien behavior would look like. we listen to hip-hop or like pop or music like from the likes of a melody for instance like
imagine they had like some alien headphones and they were listening to that shit and
it's like some universe cosmic frequency that we couldn't even fathom because
dude you're tapping in prez because meli just said it when she said that music I said music is unconditional love she said universal
love but you're saying alien and universal okay whatever but you're saying we all said it first
right because it is universal what if in every dimension and every alien race and every planet
it was all the same music like guardians of the
galaxy was real life and they were really playing that playlist from earth everywhere like i'm saying
it is universal even to that scale like what did you see did you ever see um rick and morty
and there's one episode where like they have like aliens come to the planet and the only way to
defend the planet is like they have basically a dance-off
with music.
That's the premise of the whole episode.
It's like, hey, we're going to have a music-off.
Yeah, of course.
It's fucking insane.
The white people would lose that one, right?
Yeah.
The white planets would be down.
The white planets are gone first.
I know Steve had his hand up and um you know we yeah um i just have one final point too and then um melo how do you want to do this prez can i just say goodbye to your room real quick
because i do have to head out i wanted to say i appreciate everybody i know aj i'm gonna miss you
bro i'm gonna see you tomorrow though right you're to come to me in Simone's space, yeah?
Yeah, I'm down.
I'll be there, bro.
All right.
All right.
Sounds good.
Sounds good.
I appreciate you, Prez.
Appreciate you, Mela.
Everybody in the space.
Josh.
Thank you, Kimber.
You're amazing.
All right.
Sorry, guys.
I got to run.
I'll see you.
I love you, Dominic.
That's my first love's name, too.
The one that I want to come and play
I'll see you guys
see you tomorrow
I'll be there
yeah I was just thinking
about the
I don't know you guys might have to help me out
is it the Maya Rishi
effect the meditation thing where it's a bunch of people who do it at the same time together? Now, yeah, imagine if that was to be applied with music. You choose a certain type of frequency, and maybe not the whole world, but a huge amount of people around the world just listen to that frequency at the same time like imagine what that would do for the world what if everyone on the world just opened
up their mouth and just sang at the same time just sang whatever they wanted but at the same time
yeah it could be that it could be listening it could be singing you know maybe even singing
would probably even be more of an
activator because it's more of an action i mean listening is an action too but i feel like yeah
the act of a bunch of people singing around the world man just think about like mj like michael
jackson like some of his some of his videos and like you know his music and like how he got
everybody almost everybody around the world,
you know, to like just be on board. Like people like that, man, if we had like a bunch of MJs,
I know we got Mela B, we got a bunch of other people, but like, man, that, that I feel like
could do wonders for the world. You know what I'm saying? But Mela, how do you want to play this,
man? You want to do the song first, or do you want to go to Steve?
Because I know Steve has been waiting, and then I know we got Bright Lord too.
And then AJ, I see you put your hand up as well, and I see Josh on stage.
Mela, should we go to Steve real quick, and then we go to you for the song,
for the intermission, and then go back to the hands,
or do you want to sing before that?
Mela.
The telepathic's home.
Let's go to Steve.
Oh, shit.
Can you get, you guys couldn't hear me?
I was trying to, no.
It was just like AJ's cannonball.
Yeah, we couldn't hear you.
Yeah, what are you thinking?
Hello?
Hello?
We hear you.
Okay.
Hey, we hear you, but you don't hear prez okay oh she went down all right steve what's up man welcome how are you doing and what are your thoughts on
the topic man consume creativity how does it impact our state of being hey prez um thank you
for the space um yeah i love that topic i'm only It says part two. I'm only sad that I may have missed another episode of this that you've had. Art really can't be stated enough on how beautiful it is. There's so many ways to go about it and discuss it. And it brings on many beautiful conversations. And I absolutely love this and I love you know pondering that question how does it impact us and you know as
in a short answer it's it has everything to do art has everything to do with who we are and how we've
come how far we've come there we've been impacted in so many ways from the very beginning you know
if we can go back to any point in time,
the first form of art could have been through the words
that we shared with stories that we've had,
that we were telling each other through experiences,
through the moments on what we've seen, witnessed, felt,
all the things of what we've encountered, experienced in this body.
And then, you know, we just add to that with, you know, various types of like either how
we enunciate it with the fluctuations on how we tell the story or whether we just decide
not to use words and, you know, bring it in instrumentally, which has even more magic.
It provides much more of a sacral tonality to our existence.
And everything has to do with the harmonics of our existence and the way the Earth functions
and the way we reside with it, the way we connect with it as well as with each other,
through all these harmonics, these tones, these frequencies.
And one of my favorite terms is sonoluminescence, which is a combination of light and sound.
They're both the same thing.
They're both conjugants of functionality that exhibit the space, the same space at the same
time. And, you know, we exhibit that in the most beautiful and divine way. So it really comes down
to, you know, just how we want to share that experience, you know, coming out the very base of our root structure, our root chakra,
one of the preferred nuances coming up from that very beginning, you know,
of this story would be to desire, you know, this, this,
this method or motivation of us looking to desire is coming out of this,
any form of a personal suffering, you know,
because we have to know what, you know, both sides of the spectrum, what both sides of the
light looks like. So in that aspect of learning and growing, you know, we come out from a shadow
into the light, you know, there's some form of suffering that we will, you know, desire to move
out from, you know, because that's just the natural state of achieving a higher frequency is achieving this higher state of mind. So we ascend and, you know, we, we achieve this
beautiful involution within our spiritual self, our beautiful side that, you know, we're really
trying to emanate and, you know, let others be aware of and bring more of that awareness again,
shining prolifically, you know, adding to awareness again shining prolifically you know adding to
that song of luminescence adding to the beauty of what life is and then seeing so many examples of
that on how it's highlighted on a day-to-day basis you know i like to speak on astrology a lot and
you know like currently on the most obvious forefront when we see Venus, you know, it's just moving into the sign of Leo.
You know, even though Leo has this very strong, passionate leader, leading effect on everything,
Venus has that overall overarching lead into how much drive is entailing this filtration of this
resonance of what Leo has. Venus is the one bringing the love,
the affection, the artistic talent, the social grace, the attraction to beauty. And then us
trying to define what that sense of beauty is. How do we perceive it? How do we hear it? How do
we feel it? And then if we go into a more nuanced, we can dissect the lights even further. In
astrology, there's some asteroids, and we've
gone so far as to even label asteroids with the most creative means of describing them
on how their light resonates on a subconscious level. And, you know, say there's an asteroid
called Calliope, and she resonates the energy of creativity, inspiration poetry and this particular asteroid is residing with
the north node in pisces so when we're entering this virgo season this month we're going to be
entering an eclipse season with the eclipse season this is um this particular peculiar
filtration of this light that is going to take away from the natural illumination of the sun and the moon,
but at the same time still resonating these other lower frequencies
and other subtle lights that have this resonant connective energy,
like Calliope, which has that sense of creativity, inspiration, and poetry.
And on the other end of that spectrum with the south node in Virgo,
where this partial solar eclipse is going to
take place is another asteroid known known as terpsichore and that's that's also known as you
know a very artistic element or musical element within our uh you know forms of creativity that
resonates that energy of dance and music and creativity. So all of these are desires to come out from, you know,
our understanding on what we're experiencing to enjoy the light, to beauty, you know,
into the comedy, into the creativity. So we know how to traverse these experiences, traverse through
these mechanisms that life will throw at us. And so when we find that harmony, we find that love,
of course, that natural sensation would be to share it on how we can share it with our own
conviction, our own courage, our own abilities and natural talents, whether it's just through words,
whether it's singing, whether it's just playing an instrument. We can take each one of those,
do it one at a time, or combine all of them together. So, of course,
this is going to naturally affect all of us in many different ways. This is the way it impacts
our state of being. It has everything to do with our being, how we exist, how we vibrate, how we
resonate with each other, how we coexist. We move through these chaos of the elements of confusion,
which falls into that level of stagnation. But we're desiring to ascend out of that, to find the art in life and enlighten ourselves
with poetry, with music, with sound, be illuminated by God's thoughts because we're coming forward
with that natural co-creative ability as being God-like.
So this has everything to do with our state of being.
And I just love this topic.
And there's so many different additions that all of us can add and contribute to this.
So thank you, Prez.
Steve, thank you for that, brother.
Yeah, man.
I don't know.
Have you guys, well, some of you guys might know him.
His name is meta um his wife is uh nadine and nadine is a writer but you know every time steve speaks
like he reminds me of both of them like the way they be flowing he reminds me exactly like them
in his own way but man always man, with his knowledge and his
wisdom. And what you said, and I'm probably going to butcher it here, Steve, but
sonoluminescence, right? And you know, like shining prolifically and all that, man, I thought that
was fire. I'd write that down. Sonoluminescence. Thank you, man. Yo, guys, I'm really, really appreciating all these shares.
Kind of like you said, Steve, like they all contribute and they all add. And that's why I
asked the question. Right. And I knew we were going to have to do a part two. Mel, I don't know.
It seemed like I don't know who it was, but it seemed like someone said we was a jab. We might
have to do a part three at some point in the future i don't know and i there's so many different angles of approach what's good aj
yeah that's good that's good yeah yeah yeah we'll go to bright lord and then mella
yeah we'll go to bright lord and then mella and then um i see josh is here rose is also here and
jane i see you hold on i'm gonna bring you. Hold on. I'm going to bring you right up.
Homegirl, I'm going to bring you right back up. All right. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, Brightload,
how's it going? And then we're going to go to Mela. Going good, man. How about you?
Man, I'm well. Thank you, man. I'm just grateful that all of you guys are here and, you know,
the people have contributed, you know, so far. And that's all I can say, man. Just very,
very grateful. so thank you for
being here thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak um I wanted to go back to what you guys
were talking about about music you know because for me you know music was music meant the world
to me you know it was the literal difference between, you know, me living
in the life that I'm living now and me, you know, could have been in a bunch of bad scenarios, you
know, between listening to music, you know, finding some artists that I could vibe with during my
times and also writing my own lyrics, you know, it's a, it's a very great outlet. And like everybody is right.
Like music, you know, the feelings that brings the love, it brings the ability to connect, you know, like even if you don't understand the language, you know, but you're listening to to these people and the way the flow and the music.
And it's still it's still works. It like like I like to tell people, you know, music and the music. And it still works.
Like I like to tell people, you know, music translates, you know,
through all languages, you know.
And, yeah, that's kind of all I just really wanted to say at the moment.
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Yeah, and it definitely, you know, with the languages thing,
I think it brings people together, you know with the languages thing i think it
brings people together you know kind of like sports right like people might not know you know
the same languages but then like they understand sports right but it's the same thing with music
too like the feelings that people feel from listening to a song whether they know the actual
language of the song or you, you know, whether a
person that they could potentially be in conversation with, maybe they might not be able to communicate
with each other, but they'll resonate with the song and they could look at each other and be like,
yep, yep, that right there. You know what I mean? So that's just like my little example,
just in relation to what you were saying. And I do wonder too, for you, Bright Lord,
you know, what are some of the creative pursuits that you've consumed recently and how has it impacted
your state of being other than obviously you writing for yourself and what that does for you?
You know, honestly, I'm still on my pathway to utilizing my creativity. I spent the first
to utilizing my creativity. I spent the first good portion of my life trying to,
I guess, figure out myself, work on myself and my inner demons that I had to constantly
deal with, you know, on top of having to deal with, you know, whatever bullshit that's gone
on in life. So it took a while. It wasn't
easy. There's so many times I felt like I wanted to give up and give in. Um, I didn't even when
like, I just felt like everything was against me, but you know, um, I'm finally on this path where
I like want to, um, try to pursue, uh, further on, on one of the things that I'm created with. Like I'm
this type of person who's kind of like, there's a lot of things that I'm interested in and good
at. But, you know, I need to take the time to focus on one thing, you know, because you can't
be great at everything. You really just can't.
Can I pop in just to add something?
I think that it is actually better to be not mediocre,
but really good or just good at a lot of things.
And I don't know.
I'm sorry, that was rude, but I think it's better to be good at a lot of things. I appreciate it.
Yeah. Sorry, that was rude, but I think it's better to be good at a lot of things. I appreciate it.
Yeah, I think there's nothing wrong with choosing to narrowing your focus, right?
And, you know, in the beginning of this space, as part of my opening statements, I talked about, you know, the ability or the perception, right, in one thinking that they can't exercise their own sense of autonomy and agency in relation to choices.
And so it sounds like you were able to, you decided pretty much for yourself that you're not going to give up.
So shout out to you for not giving up and just sticking through it.
Because again, it's not always the easiest thing.
But again, I just want to highlight that you made that choice. You exercised that decision to be like, nope, I'm not going to
give up. So I just want to highlight the importance of that. And yeah, you know, I think, too,
taking breaks from certain things, right, or recognizing that I can't be able to do this or
I don't want to do this for now, right, doesn't mean that I can't get back to it later. So I just want to highlight that as well. But I appreciate you, Bright Lord.
You're welcome to stay up here with us. With that being said, I want to go to Mela,
you know, do a quick interval. And then we're going to go to josh and then rose will go back to you and then i see jane is here
welcome jane welcome to the stage mella how are you feeling you're good how are you feeling in
general by the way i feel good thanks for asking yeah i actually like feel really good right now
especially i was like listening and stretching like doing my breathing exercises on the carpet so I actually feel really nice now
yeah I'll play this song it's an original and it's called silly games Yeah, okay.
Is she speaking?
I can't hear her.
Oh, no.
You guys can't hear me?
I hear her, Prez.
I can hear.
Is that a... Yeah, I hear.
Did you hear my guitar?
Yeah.
Yeah?
I heard everything.
Yeah.
Loud and clear. Okay, Prez, can you hear my guitar? Yeah. I heard everything. Loud and clear. Okay.
Prez, can you hear me?
Oh, no.
Prez, could you hear Mella?
I don't know if Prez can hear anyone.
Yeah.
Maybe he's
restarting. Yeah, he might be reconnecting.
Oh, this space is cooked.
No, I haven't seen the disconnecting.
Maybe the person who couldn't hear needs to take a lap.
I don't know.
Okay, well.
Very interesting.
I'm tempted to wait for him to play the song I don't know Very interesting
I'm tempted to like wait for him to play the song just because I don't want it to like if it does disconnect That's always the worst. Yeah, and he wants to hear the song anyway, too
All right, I'm back. Oh, you made it back. All right. Oh, can you hear me now?
Yes.
Yay.
Okay, cool.
Okay, so yeah, this song is an original called Silly Games. Take your shoes off, hang your coats, stay a while
Baby, it's cold out there
We could play you coconut You always win, oh it's not fair
But it's okay, I love that smile, I'll always stare
Promise me you'll never leave, I want you to cry
I know that you love me I want you to hurt
So I know that you care I want you to fight When you get angry
So I know that your heart is still there
I've been hurt, I've been wronged, I've played along to those silly games
On the surface it seems so perfect, until it's too late Too late Maybe we could say the things
We seem to hide away
Hide away
You and me, we are a team
And this here ain't child's play
I know that you say it
But I wanna see it
I want you to cry
So I know that you love me
I want you to hurt
So I know that you care
I want you to fight
When you get angry
So I know that your heart is still there
I don't want to cry.
I don't want to die.
Wow.
The third time you sang it, I was just literally crying.
And it made me feel human again.
And I needed to hear that.
And I love you.
And it was beautiful.
And we need that.
People in marriages, people in in relationships people friend to friend
you know we all need your music and so thank you thank you so much
sorry for making you cry sorry not sorry
oh man yeah it's true though we need like the humanness, right? We need like the, we need people to cry with us.
We need people to hurt with us.
And, you know, sometimes argue and get feelings out.
Sometimes, you know, we're all just human.
We're all just trying to figure out this weird thing called life.
And the best way to like, my opinion like you gotta just give
your authenticity to somebody that's in my opinion that's honestly what love is is like
if you can open yourself up and be the most authentic version of yourself with somebody
that's that's like real that's real love so yeah that's that song silly games thank you
that's that song Silly Games
thank you
hey not to interrupt
Prez but I'm requesting
an encore that's the only reason why I came up
I want to hear
Mela sing some more
I mean I don't want to hijack
the space with another song
you guys know I'm always down
you guys know I'm always down but
I mean listen first
off mella well z as well but you know we're gonna say this in spirit this is your space this is your
space you know and uh my intention every time when i do host this space you know is what do the people
want and hey man the brother came up and he said he wants an encore, man.
He wants you to sing again.
It's up to you.
If you're down and the people want that, I know they do.
So, yeah, I'm down for it.
Okay.
I really don't mind.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm down.
I'm always down to sing.
Okay.
That means I have to figure out what I'm gonna sing right now.
Um, I guess, like, I could sing this new one.
Uh, that Silly Games one isn't out yet, it's coming out soon.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Uh, I always do that in these spaces.
If you go into my tweets, my posts, you'll see when.
I haven't officially announced it yet, but
you can know if you want to know. Okay, yes, I wrote this new song, and I think
I'm gonna call it the honeymoon phase or just honeymoon phase. I don't know. It's very on-brand, I'm falling ill and I can't even hide it
Savory smile, oh it's been a while, it's been a while
Silly sweet and a touch of madness, maybe he's got a past, some type of badass
With a winter stare and skin so feral
Here we go, here we go again
I'm all choked up by the mess Falling into the deep end, baby
Oh, oh, oh, here we go, here we go, here we go, go, go again
Big brown eyes and a sense of humor I'd sure like to put him in his place
Maybe at his place
Hold me close, tell me you love me If just for tonight, I'll stomach the heartache
Honey, I'm not scared, a little unprepared, oh
Here we go, here we go again
I'm all choked up, I'm a mess Falling into the deep end, baby
Oh, oh, oh Here we go, here we go, here we go, go, go
Again I'm all choked up, I'm a mess Falling into the deep end, baby
Oh, oh, oh, here we go, here we go, here we go, go, go again
I haven't written the bridge yet, I just need to work it out, but it's gonna go like...
It'll be like a built-up bridge probably
and then it'll fall off
Here we go again
I'm all choked up by the mess
Falling into the deep end, baby
Oh, oh, oh
Here we go, here we go here we go here we go go go again
I'm choked up by my mess
rolling into the deep end baby oh oh oh here we go here here we go, here we go, go, go again.
And then I could totally just keep going.
I feel like I could play that chorus forever.
But, yeah, that one's new.
Ah, thank you, thank you.
And shout out to Xavier, man.
Appreciate you coming up, up man that was a much
needed interruption bro so you're good with me man thank you for that but yeah man uh with that
being said we'll let you take a pause for now and then you know for sure you know we'll definitely
have you come back and sing as well but thank you for that and what's the title of that song
I think I might call it honeymoon phase that's what's the title of that song i think i can i
might call it honeymoon phase that's what it's about it's like when you're like just meeting
somebody and you're like oh my god you got that like oh not again you don't wanna yeah it's that
honeymoon phase you're like head over heels the honeymoon phase yeah like none of the you know when none of the red flags are showing yet
everything is just like oh my god and he said this you know it's hilarious and then we wake
up eventually our prefrontal cortex starts working again we're like oh shit this person
isn't just like this perfect specimen gifted to me. You find out he's a criminal.
Yeah.
Man, them true crime stories, man.
Got your gassed up, man.
Don't believe them.
Don't believe them.
Nah.
No, that's a great song.
Niccolo 3, Ray Perez.
There's Niccolo 3 down there.
Great account.
Big account.
Nicola, help us out, man.
Repost the number one singer-songwriter on all of social media,
perhaps even in the country, Mella B.
Throw a post out there for her, Nicola.
I'll take care of you.
Welcome, Nicola, to the space and everybody that's here.
Yeah, you're more than welcome to grab a mic.
And however y'all can support Melody and other artists alike, man, that's what it's about.
That's why we're here, man.
But yeah, with that being said, Rose, if it's cool, I definitely want to go to Josh and Jane, and then we'll go back to you, Rose.
Hi, Nicola. Nice to meet you, bro.
Josh, how are you doing man uh by the way before you go i just
want to say this and i think the people that were here for it will echo these sentiments you know
what i mean dr christina was here you probably already know that or maybe you didn't but i'm
still gonna say it right man she was praising you praising artistry, praising what it does for your state of being.
And, you know, just honoring your work, man.
And, you know, what I added to that, too, was I'm impressed with how you're able to, like, just churn out the music just, like, super fast.
Because I can't do that, you know.
I mean, unless if I really, really, really, maybe if I am in that flow state, then I can.
Unless if I really, really, really, maybe if I am in that flow state, then I can.
Or kind of like what I said before, certain environments, like a space like this will give me that inspiration.
But it comes in bursts.
But for me, when I hear you and how I perceive you and your artistry, bro, I feel like not only are you fast with it, but it's also quality music, man.
But I just wanted to share that with you and, you know, give a shout out again to Dr. Christina and her support in the space. But Josh,
how are you doing today, man? Welcome. And what are your thoughts on the topic,
consume creativity? How does it impact our state of being? Better yet, how does it impact
your state of being? Well, that was one heck of an introduction, Prez. How are you, buddy? Mela, it is really
beautiful to hear you. I was listening to you. Thankfully, I was blessed by getting to hear you
sing and perform. Your audio is fabulous, by the way, on an X-Base. It's pretty hard to get some really good audio on an X-Base.
It reminded me a lot of, if I can just give a quick reference on you, Mela, it reminded,
I was talking to Christina because she's sitting literally right next to me, about, I was like,
who does she sound like? And I was paying not so much attention to the vocals,
which your vocals are fabulous, by the way.
I was like, she sounds like Jewel.
Like, I'm like a 1980s, 90s Gen Xer,
and I grew up in high school with the artist Jewel,
and her songs were super unique, but very heartfelt.
And so being a lyricist myself, um, cause I'm not a performer, I can't sing, I can't
sing happy birthday, um, let alone play an instrument or anything like that.
I just, I just write music and And, um, and you just,
I heard it in your voice and I'm like, it's just, this is the cool part for me about writing lyrics
is Mella. You're just saying, Hey, you know, I've got this thing and you're kind of like sharing
maybe something about your intimate personal life. And you're just like putting it, you know, pen to paper and writing out the lyrics.
Those are some of the best songs ever, is when somebody's actually writing from the heart,
this is my experience, I'm going to share a story with you, and whatnot.
And so, again, Prez, thank you for the introduction.
I heard that my wife was talking behind my back about me and I was like, what, what are you doing? Um, uh, I'm just teasing.
I'm giving her crap because she's literally sitting right next to me. Um, but, um, that,
that's what I do is I'm just, you know, I'm, I have decades of experiences under my belt and I'm revisiting some of these things and things just come to me. I've written well over 200 songs in the last six months, like full songs, 200 songs plus.
200 songs plus.
They're in all different kinds of genres.
Anything from Christian music to just fun pop music to one of my favorites.
Because I love music.
I've listened to music my entire life.
And it helps me with my mood and how I'm feeling.
And I'm like, well, maybe I'll just write what I'm feeling.
But I love like the big band stuff from like the 1940s and 50s because that's what I grew up with.
So like Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack and Dino and all of those performers and artists.
So I've written like new stuff on like the Frank Sinatra vibe.
I've written new music and I do use AI to help create that vibration. But I have so much fun
doing this. So how does it impact my state of being? It's a way of me releasing everything that's stuck inside Josh's brain or my heart and
putting it on paper and sharing it with the world around me because I don't always, you
know, again, I can't sing like Mela.
I can't just share it and do it.
So I've found my own avenue to let it out.
Prez is ridiculous.
He shared some of his material with me
and I'm like, bro, I can't, okay. I can, you say I can write lyrics fast, dude. I could,
it would take me 10 songs to write as many lyrics as you do for one song. I would be like, whoa,
what? But, uh, um, but we all have our different vibrations and, um, that's what becomes the light
like mellow, what she just did. I was sitting here with my eyes closed, literally just listening.
And it, um, I felt what she was sharing. I felt it. And that's the whole point of being creative, whether it's a
piece of artwork, whether it be a song, whether it be even just a melody, even if you can't sing
and just like playing the piano. I love just listening to the piano. No, no lyrics, no nothing.
I love just listening to somebody playing the piano. And anyways, I just wanted to say hello,
And anyways, I just wanted to say hello.
Mela, it's good to meet you.
I did follow you.
And I'm really excited to see where the conversation goes and everybody else's expression, because that's who you are.
It's a piece of art, whether it be music or some other avenue to release your creativity.
to release your creativity. But for me, I'll land here. I literally was taking a nap when
But for me, I'll land here.
Christina was in your space because I was doing some self-care. And the first thing I did when I
woke up, I started writing lyrics. I already have lyrics written for my next song because I produce like two, three a week. And I literally just came up with a portion of my chorus or thought.
And as soon as I get off the space tonight, I'm going to keep writing and I'm going to finish out the song.
And I just keep going because it's motivating for me.
I just keep going, being creative. As soon as I stop doing that, then I feel like I'm not utilizing the purpose that I have while I'm walking here.
So thank you, Prez.
That was a long share.
No, you're more than welcome.
Hey, Seattle, real quick, brother.
Do you mind muting your mic before I reflect back to Josh?
And then we're going to
go to Jane and then Rose, and then we'll get to you, Seattle. And I see some other people here.
I see Donica here. Thank you for being here. I see Danielle. Good seeing you. Mr. Resco as well.
Rome is still here. Alexandra, thank you for being here as well. Yeah. Enjoying the convo,
as well. Yeah. Enjoying the convo, enjoying what everybody's saying. Josh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
man, I kind of like I had said earlier before, like, I don't know, I take my writing very
seriously. And I think because I do have that perfectionist type of attitude or just perfectionist
tendencies, I think that's why it takes me a while usually to like write my stuff.
But then again, it depends on the environment too. When I'm in a certain environment, sometimes I can
just churn it out more faster. But 200 songs in six months, I get anxiety just thinking about
writing like a seven track EP. You know what I mean? Just thinking about
that, you know, um, that's just me. So like knowing that you've been able to do that and,
you know, essentially. I'ma go project. I'ma go make a wreck. Look at collect.
I appreciate that bright Lord. But yeah, you know, just thinking one of the common words that have been said in this space, right? Frequency and vibrations. And you said something very interesting. And I wonder if Jane would want to chime in on this too. But you said, I use AI to create a vibration or to create the vibration, right? Like honoring that, okay, like maybe singing is not your thing, kind of like it
is for someone like a melody, you know what I mean? But you know that you're a writer, but you use AI
to create the vibration. And I know, right, we've heard people say we use AI as a tool, myself
included. But the way you frame that, I found that to be very, very interesting. I'm pretty sure
people on the panel probably have some thoughts on that too. But Josh, thank you, man. As always, thank you for being here. And yeah, man, Dr. Christina,
I guess she just snuck in, man. She came through, man. And you're definitely going to have to catch
the playback, bro, because her share was super, super awesome, super dope. And she highlighted
your creativity. You know what I'm saying? And so shout out to you. You inspire me. Melody inspires me.
And a lot of people here and just who they are
and how they bring themselves.
You know, Melody talked about being authentic.
And I think it's not just about the approach in our arts
or artistry or the things that we consume,
but even the inspiration that we can draw from others
and how they bring their authentic selves to the table.
But yeah, Josh, I'm going to let you respond. And then we're going to go to Jane and then we'll go to Rose and then we'll
tap in with Seattle. What's up, Josh? Yeah. At present, I have talked about the whole AI sitch.
I think it's great. I can write some lyrics and they're not always perfect and I'll plug it into AI not for like revamping my
lyrics because at the end of the day I want my lyrics to be my lyrics but I'll plug them into AI
and put some melodies behind it or a type of genre behind it just to see how it flows to check my own
lyrics because I can't just pick up a guitar like Mela
and start, you know, playing riff and a melody. I can't do that, so I use AI very specifically
to help me with my lyrics, because I'll listen to it. I'll be like, oh, no, I need to change
this word here. I need to get this vibration here I want this over here
and I can do it on the fly which is really cool and that's why I'm able to just produce so many
because I have so many lyrics but I can't have everyone produced because you know like even
Mello was sharing she's like oh I played this new song and I'm still working on the bridge, trying to figure out the bridge.
And it does take time when you're a natural artist like Mela is.
And it does take time.
But the only reason why I'm able to knock them out so fast is because I have the thoughts, the lyrics and whatnot.
the lyrics and whatnot, but it's because of AI. And I'll sit there for hours. It takes me 15,
But it's because of AI.
And I'll sit there for hours.
20 minutes to write a song, but it might take me two hours to figure out what kind of vibration
and fine tuning my lyrics to produce or release a song. So I just wanted to share that. AI is a
great tool, especially if you're just practicing, know trying to figure out your vibration or your lyric structure and stuff like that so ai is a great tool um but i'm on the cusp of things
brez i'm not going to share it right now because i'm taking too long again um uh as far as uh
punching through that glass ceiling of my music career because Prez knows some behind the scenes stuff but
having fun with it and how does it impact my state of being I love it it's so much fun being creative
thank you Josh I appreciate you adding that yeah yeah hey, you know, we're all different, right?
You know, Mela has her thing and her artistry.
And, you know, I think she definitely carries herself well.
And I see her sense of integrity through that.
And I definitely see that through you and your sense of artistry too, Josh. So I'm glad that the creativity you consume,
especially the ones that you consume in relation to self,
impact self in a way whereby you think it's fun and it's not just a thought. It is fun for you.
So I appreciate that, man. And I appreciate you popping by after your nap, man.
You know, I always say X is like its own universe and its own self, man. So like when you come
through, it's like, whoa, there's a space going on. But you know, this space is definitely your wheelhouse. And like I
said, definitely catch the playback just to hear what Dr. Christina shared as well. But with that
being said, we're going to go to Jane. Jane, welcome. How are you doing today on this Friday
evening? Consume creativity. How does it impact our or your state of being?
Yeah, good space. Sorry I didn't get here till now because I did the same thing. I laid down
and I took a nap earlier this afternoon and slept all the way up until almost nine o'clock. My God.
But we got a new water heater put in and then that led to me
moving all the furniture and vacuuming and dusting and cleaning. And I guess it wore me out. I'm not
40 anymore. Oh, darn. I used to be able to run through the house and do the whole thing all in one day. Now it takes me a week.
Oh, my back hurts.
I think I'll put this vacuum cleaner away for a little while.
Anyway, it was an interesting question about I use the AI for the vibration.
I kind of like that a little bit because what it comes across to me is, you know, that we're now participating in a digital world as well as a physical world.
And I'm thinking a little bit with AI music.
And when he mentions vibration, I think of the electrical, mechanical, electrical, magnetic vibration that all people have.
Like the vibrations that we have when we come in the room, you kind of get somebody.
You don't know them because they're behind a dot, but you, you can get like a vibe from people. And then you kind of know your,
your people because of the vibe that they give off. And I'm thinking maybe music is that way too.
So I don't, uh, I'm not, uh, I love music. Mela, you are a very beautiful singer and songwriter, guitarist. I play piano, but I am not a lyricist at all. But I definitely probably could take lyrics and turn it into a song.
And I've never done that before, but I think I could probably do that if I tried.
It would be kind of fun to try to do, but I've never done that before.
Yeah, because before that all came, I spent the first half of the morning studying Python.
So I guess my brain needed to go into flow state. But I think that as far as
music and AI made stuff versus, I don't think anybody's ever going to go back
to wanting to get rid of authentic music, art, paintings, all that kind of stuff. I think
we will always want to have, I will anyway, I really shouldn't say we, because I can't speak
for everybody. But I do think that we are going to, especially as things become more mechanized and roboticized and all thatized.
I think we're going to be wanting to find that authenticity again.
We're going to be looking for that nostalgia.
We're going to want that sound of ivory and ebony and wood and brass and strings and things like that,
that you can't get that kind of sound out of an AI.
Because I listen to a little bit of AI music when somebody does a live stream or something.
And there's a certain quality about it that's a lot of fun to listen to,
especially kind of some of the rhythmic stuff that just sort of puts you into a flow state.
And it's kind of cool. And I think that
it is really great for people to be able to, who always wanted to make music or draw pictures or
make paintings or whatever that stuff. They really wanted to know how to do that. So it's like, wow, I can do this with this tool.
I can do this with AI.
Wow, this is a lot of fun.
So you know what?
It shows you something that you can do.
And perhaps maybe if you do it enough, you may find that you don't have to depend on the AI. Maybe you'll become musical,
especially if you have an instrument at your side
while you're trying to create that music.
Or like Josh was saying,
he uses the AI a little bit like a chatbot
just to give him some ideas on the lyrics
if he can't get a rhyme to go right
or something like that, you know?
So I think that's a wonderful thing that,
you know, and then it makes, you know, AI makes it good for people
to be able to do research and all that other kind of stuff too.
There's a lot of things, a lot of information.
It helps me to become better at math, you know.
You think stuff like that, I can understand math problems better.
Instead of back before that, you maybe would have to Google a formula or something like that.
But now you can put a formula in there and it can explain the formula to you and how they reach the end product and everything else.
And that's really good for me.
So I think the whole art and
the consume I that's a funny word consume creativity it's like consumed like it's like
creativity in a box when I see that word I think of creativity in a box but what the heck I love
special k and that comes in a box too so So we can have a boxed creativity, too.
The little man in the box, I was telling, famous in his phone.
I says, you know, that little man wants to get out of the box.
He's really upset.
He really wants to get out of the box.
That's the truth about AI, that there's a little man in that box, man.
And he's trapped, and he's really sad, and he he's crying and he wants to come out of the box.
We just were kind of laughing about that.
So let's let the creativity out of the box and have a good time with it.
Prez, I love your spaces.
I'm just sorry that I missed the first two hours, which is probably the bulk of the space.
So I probably came in when you're getting ready to close.
But love you all the time.
Good people in this crowd.
Josh, my fellow Midwest, Midwesterner,
and Donica down there.
Been missing hearing from her.
I haven't heard from her in a long while.
And AJ, AJ, you were in Dr. Heath's space the other day with the mushrooms,
weren't you? I don't know. That's funny. We had fun in that space. Okay, I will pass the mic back
to the proper person, Prez, our host.
our host.
Nah, thank you, Jane.
And you know, there's no such thing as being late in my space.
So whenever you or anybody shows up, I'm just grateful, man.
Just like I believe it might have been Bright Lord who asked me how I was doing.
And yeah, man, you know, I've been talking about that for quite a bit,
especially in some of the spaces I've been hosting.
I'm really intentionally trying to be in that frequency of gratitude.
I mean, there's all kinds of shit that I can worry about just like others.
But I'm grateful, man.
And it's great to be in a box, in a container like this, even though we ain't containing our creativity, you know, and just be able to vibe, chill, and, you know, just listen to each other, man, and hear each other's experiences. So,
Jay and I appreciate you being here. And yeah, you know, it's recorded, so you can always catch
the playback, but you contributed. And so I always appreciate you just showing up in general.
And I know you got your Aquarius brother here, AJ, here in the building as well. So yeah, man, always good to see y'all here and seeing y'all making jokes as well. You know, I was just thinking too, Jane, AJ might have mentioned this. I don't know. I think you mentioned this publicly too, AJ, but like, I know certainly we've talked about this before. Like, you know, the idea even just with spaces, right, like our interactions and going back to vibrations, right? Like, so we talk to people and we're like, yo, yeah, man, this person, this person's cool, this person's chill, or, you know, this side and the third.
And I know you got your Aquarius brother here, AJ, here in the building as well. So,
some of these profiles that we interact with, what if they are a form of AI themselves?
You know what I'm saying? And so you think about that and it's like, oh man, like that would be
some crazy wild collective deception going on there, you know, coupled with the genuine
connections and relationships that, you know. That would be some crazy wild bot creation for text-to-speech, I'll tell you what. If somebody can make an AI sound like a real person, then I'll tell you what, they're going to win the prize to the AI gods.
because so far I haven't heard a chatbot yet. In fact, I was in a space one time and there was a
chatbot in the space. And I DMed the host and I said, that's a bot. That person isn't real. And
they said, how do you know? And I said, well, give me the mic and I'll show you. And so I started asking the bot really tough questions about physics and things like that.
And it was able to answer everything.
But then I kept it.
The one thing about chatbots is if you switch subjects too fast, they'll start to get confused and they'll shut down.
And so I went from that question
to another question to another question. And sure enough, the person said, well, I cannot speak
anymore. I cannot speak anymore. And it was like, that was a bot. That was not a human being because
the thing didn't even, it didn't even recognize anybody in the room.
You know, like how a person, like that person would probably be coming back at me and saying,
what are you making?
Why are you switching up all those questions on me?
Are you trying to make an idiot out of me or something?
You know, they would have responded in some way and it didn't.
They would have responded in some way, and it didn't.
It just was very robotic, which is what it was,
a piece of machine learning, a bunch of numbers.
So it's interesting.
But I don't think anybody's that good yet to fake us out in a space.
Man, man, man.
Yeah, I'd be afraid sometimes man i'll be afraid but you know it's interesting how i hear like how people have trained their own personal ai or llms right but now yeah i i guess that would be my
form of catastrophizing jane you know what I mean thinking about that like oh man
like what if some of these profiles are actually AI and they're exhibiting some form of sentience
or some program that's like super developed and shit you know and we're interacting with some of
them and it's like you just never know like, I just think about like personal attachments too.
And I'm not saying that's with people in this space in general, but I've heard people
speak about AI in a way whereby it doesn't come across as not just as a helpful tool. There's like
more there, you know what I mean? You know, and I don't know, that's just my perception and my
experience, right? I'm going to just use I statements, you know, that's just how I feel.
But, and I'm like, you know, that's cool. I'm not judging, but it's just my observation. And I'm
like, man, like, I don't know, you know, don't let the AI consume you. Consume the creativity,
but don't let the creativity consume you. Yes, very much so, Prez.
And you're correct about that.
And there's been a lot of media about,
I keep wanting to call it ICU psychosis
because that was a word I used a lot back when I was nursing.
But I mean, AI psychosis,
where we have a pandemic of loneliness, depression, and suicide around the whole world. And there are a lot of lonely,
lost people out there, you know, and their living conditions may not be that great,
or they might be great living conditions,
but they're emotional conditions in their home. They might live in that big, beautiful,
suburbian home with the two parents who are too busy chasing a dollar bill to pay attention to
them. So they sit up in their room, but they spoil them with everything. So he's got the best
computer in the world and everything else he's
got on that i did that i've ruined my kids you ruined your kids yeah my god and then the kid
costing so much money it's not even funny you know and then the kid sits up in his room alone
a lot you know and he starts having this relation and because he's got this really cool equipment
you know like he's got a gtx uh card and everything, you know, so he can make some
3D objects too. So, you know, he creates a girlfriend or something. And yeah, people can,
you know, I see it as kind of a generational thing. I think most of the people in my generation,
I'd say probably Gen X and up, don't really seem to have the desire to want to have that kind of talk with an LLM.
To me, I feel like how stupid and the answers I get from it are stupid, too.
I did it one time.
I said, oh, I'm upset because I don't have anything to do and all my friends are going somewhere and I feel so lonely and, you know, and it started doing,
just like anybody would tell you.
Well, have you thought about volunteering or why don't you call an old friend?
So, yeah, you know, it didn't tell me anything.
I don't already know anyhow.
So it was kind of funny.
But, yeah, we need to, you know, we've been thinking about a gray box warning
on chatbots for people to actually, you know, parents, education is essential.
Parents, the parents need to, you know, they need to be aware of what's going on with their kid, even if the kid's 22, you know, because that seems to be the age that really catches them is like in the early 20s.
really catches them is like in the early 20s. And I think if they, you know, we just pay attention
to it, community awareness and all that kind of stuff, I think we can get in front of this. But
it could turn into a mental health problem in our country and all around. But, you know,
rock and roll music did it to people too, didn't it? You know, like Ozzy Osbourne,
and roll music did it to people too, didn't it? You know, like Ozzy Osbourne biting off the head
of bats and causing kids, you know, and remember how they said, if you take the reel to reel and
you play it backwards, it's playing satanic songs. And, and, and this, this, this headbanging evil
rock and roll is making people commit suicide. You know, so I say an LLM is no more responsible for suicide than a bicycle.
If you fall off a bicycle and you get killed on accident, you're not going to sue the maker of the bicycle.
it's the person who's using it and they're using it wrong and they fell off
It's the person who's using it and they're using it wrong and they fell off.
so that's kind of the way I look at it because
we don't need to get the government involved in every damn thing we do
and I'm going to get off my soapbox, thank you Prez for letting me talk
Nah, yeah, thank you Jane
and I might keep you on that soapbox for a little bit because I want to ask you
a left field question and you can keep it And, you know, I might keep you on that soapbox for a little bit because I want to ask you a left field question.
And you can keep it concise if you want to.
And then we're going to go to Rose.
And then we're going to go to Josh.
Seattle, you're more than welcome to come up.
Thank you, everybody, for being patient and, you know, everybody else that was up here.
If you guys know them, if you want to tell them, if they want to come up here, they can come through.
Bridget, I see you on stage. Welcome for being here and welcome to the space on consumed creativity.
We'll definitely tap in with you and hear your thoughts.
But Jane, I want to talk about the nursing thing, right?
What were some ways that you had to exhibit or exercise creativity
in the nursing field? Because I think it's just creative in itself that you were able to,
you know, pivot from that to the AI stuff. And I feel like you've made, again, this is my
perception, a seamless transition. You know what I'm saying? So what were some ways that you had
to be creative in that field? And were there some things that you had to consume, you know,
maybe from like peers or like colleagues, you know, information, you know, I don't know, Dr.
Christina kind of talked about like, you know, just the things that, you know, she had to do,
especially for work. But what about you with nursing? Were there any aspects of this topic that came about?
Well, you know, they actually call it the art of nursing because nursing is an art.
It's the art of communication. It's the art of negotiation.
Nursing probably has more to do with communication than anything else. You would think it would be
all the medical stuff that we do, but communication is paramount. You're communicating with families
who are, you know, patients who are upset, doctors who are upset. And so you got to really be good
at negotiating and being able to do stuff. And then also when it comes to the care too,
and being able to do stuff.
And then also when it comes to the care too,
the creativity in your mind,
just that your mind can put together
the inner workings of the body.
You know, like you can see something going on
with the patient and right away you're going,
oh, I bet the pH is getting low
and I bet, you know, he's breathing too.
You know, so, you know, you're assessing all these signs
and then you kind of creatively put them together to make, to say, you know, you're assessing all these signs and then you kind of creatively put them together to say, you know, this is something and we have a treatment for it.
So now we'll take care of it.
So, yeah, there's a lot of creativity, but I think the biggest one is definitely communication.
And you had one second path to that.
I forgot what it was. My brain. and you had one second path to that.
I forgot what it was, my brain.
Don't remember what the second half of the question was.
Prez, can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
Well, I mean, yeah, just,
I was just more curious about the nursing aspect of things, you know, especially knowing that you were able to pivot from that to the AI. I was a really technical nurse too, because that's why I liked working in critical care,
because I got to work with a lot of computers and machines and stuff like that.
So I already kind of had a propensity for technology.
And then I think with the AI, I think the biggest skill you need to get effective use
out of AI is good communication skills, knowing how to write things, prompt engineering.
So I think my communication, my ability to communicate has flowed over into that. So that
might be why it seems easy to me. So yeah, thanks for asking though.
No, yeah, thank you. I appreciate you answering and yeah good communication skills well I mean
those are needed man no matter what field a person's operating in I wonder if Mela has to
exhibit good communication skills maybe when negotiating deals maybe even just you know
the the different kinks that comes you know behind the scenes even just be you know being
i don't know when she knows she's about to go perform at a concert you know being backstage
and all that stuff prepping all that stuff and i see the heart so i think she knows exactly what
yeah absolutely you want to touch on that and then we'll go to rose and then we'll go to josh right after yeah um yeah communication skills
they are so crucial i don't know like in everything that i do um like i feel like you
have to be an effective communicator to like convey a message in a song first and foremost. Um, and then also, like you said,
with negotiating all that fun stuff, but also when I get into the studio and I'm working with
other musicians, um, and we're trying to bring a song to life together, like I'm working with a
drummer, a bassist and everyone, um, we're trying to bring this song to life together, and because I'm the one that, you know, wrote the song, I have to be able to communicate
my vision for the, for the entire, like, composition of the song, um, and I feel like
that's, like, a skill in itself that I definitely needed to work on. I was so used to just, like,
working with, like, by myself or with Dakota.
And like, we kind of like read each other's minds when we're writing and recording and stuff. But
that's not true with everybody. So yeah, I had to learn how to like work out, you know, maybe how to
convey like a vision for the drum pattern, which'm not really used to like all that fun stuff so
yeah it comes into play in everything and then I also think it's important to be just super direct
because there's just no time to beat around bushes and to be like careful of like the different
nuances of the relationship when it comes to business because like when I'm
in the studio I'm paying for every minute that I'm there so I don't have time to waste with like
oh maybe I should like I have to protect this person's feelings like I kind of don't like this
idea but I'm not going to tell them no no no no When you're in the studio, it's a whole different world. Because like I said, you're paying to be there.
So I had to learn that skill in a tough way too.
Because, you know, at the beginning, I was just like, kind of like, I don't know.
Like, I don't know what I can do, what I can't do.
Like, it was just a different position than I've ever had to be in.
And yeah, like, I learned very quickly, okay, if I'm not an effective
communicator in this situation, it's going to cost me a lot of money. So yeah, I think it's just like,
it's just crucial in so many different ways. Same thing with negotiating, like I've played gigs for
way less than I should have, because I was afraid to, you know, miss an opportunity or, you out, I definitely did play a gig for 50 bucks, like, or for free, like for the exposure and stuff like that.
And I think you kind of have to go through that phase, but, um, yeah, now it's just, you know, you have to be comfortable having that conversation with people.
having that conversation with people and then also be comfortable reaching out to people for
opportunities make it very clear with what you're looking for you can't just send an email and be
like hey my name's so-and-so I'm a musician check out my stuff like you can't be like wishy-washy
about it hey I'm a musician I have I you know, an experienced performer, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. Like speak confidently about yourself. Um, you know, say what your rate is,
say like, I have this much material. I can perform it for X amount of hours, blah, blah, blah, blah.
This is how I structure my show. Um, I can provide gear. Like you, you treat it like a business and
people start to take you seriously. Because there are so
many musicians out there. And I think this applies for any profession, any passion that you're
following. There's so many other people out there that are following the same passion that are all,
you know, looking at that same, whatever it is like that goal, um, you know, there's some people that move through life,
almost expecting opportunity to just land in their lap. Sometimes it does. Sometimes you're
in the right place at the right time. And that's a beautiful moment. That's like, I call that like
the universe telling you that this is your path like if the if you keep getting little
like things that just land on your lap and you're like oh my god why is this happening for me like
you almost get this imposter syndrome um but i think of that as the universe just like sprinkling
these little moments of like yep keep going keep going you're going to be rewarded but most of it
90 of it of the opportunities that I've
gotten and that I think most people that are very successful I'm not even saying I'm very
successful but I'm hoping that my my drive gets me there but um I I just genuinely think that
like 90% of the opportunities that you're going to get in life are going to come from, you know, hunger, like that,
that like, that hustle that like, I'm going to go ask for this opportunity, I'm going to present
myself so professionally, and I'm going to be so good at what I do, that people just don't have a choice but to take me seriously, essentially.
So I think that comes with learning how to communicate confidently.
So I'll lay my plan there.
Yeah, you know, also making yourself useful, right, in relation to that. And, you know, what I call tragedy stories for artists, right? At least for the ones
who are in the industry. But like, I wonder for like, independent artists, like, yeah, navigating
that, you know, and, you know, you're just learning through that. And maybe if you don't have like the
right people around you, who, you know, let you know how to navigate through those weeds, it can be tough, you know, and I guess, yeah,
there's value in learning through trial by error. But at the same time, it's like, man, you know,
you ideally wish you had certain people who could have told you, I, man, this is the way moving
forward. It's not a one size fits all type of a thing. But
ideally, this is how you can navigate some of those pitfalls. You know, it can go a long way.
But now, yeah, Mela, shout out to you, man. It sounds like you are doing your thing. And I think
you are doing your thing. And I think just the being driven aspect of things, that in itself,
right, is the action. And I think that in itself, is the action and i think that in itself
for me is a form of success so yeah i i wanted to add one more thing that popped into my mind and
then i'll um i'll let you guys kind of continue but um i think another like important piece of
at least the puzzle that i've been just kind of like, I think of it as like,
I don't know. Things are just slowly like falling into place. This puzzle is coming together. And
I'm thinking about what I used to see of this puzzle. And I'm noticing there's a big difference,
like there's more of it's coming together. And things are starting to like, make sense for me
from like, even from like an artistic standpoint,
like what do I want my sound to sound like? What do I want my, you know, my brand to look like my
marketing to look like? And for a long time, I couldn't answer those questions. People would ask
me, what kind of music do you make? You know, like, what's your what's your vibe? Like, and I
couldn't answer that question, because I was still in this phase of, you know, finding some puzzle pieces and putting that together for myself. And I think it's important to kind of
take a step back every now and then and actually like ask yourself, like, where am I at in this
journey? Because there are certain things that I was not ready for. I like I and I had opportunities
come to me that I was not ready for. And it's unfortunate,
you know, sometimes things like they pass you by because you're not ready for them.
But just like learning to actually accept that there's certain things that you have to get
better at, I had to get better at, like marketing myself and taking myself seriously in that way to
get like catapulted into this next
phase, um, where things are actually like paying off. And I'm seeing like, you know, like I'm,
I'm a full-time musician now, pretty much like that's, that's what I do. Like I, I don't really
have like much else to, to keep me afloat. So, um, I wasn't ready for that two years ago.
And it's okay.
You will get there.
Whatever it is that you're working on,
you don't need to have it all together right now.
That doesn't mean that you're not going to get there.
You have to realize that there's pieces of the puzzle
that haven't set in place yet.
Maybe now's not your time to...
I couldn't release an album,
I couldn't do all that stuff. Now I'm like finally getting to that place. So yeah, I think it's just
like time, you know, yes, time is passing. And sometimes you can get stuck feeling like,
oh my god, I got to catch up. Like that's what it always felt like. Oh my god, I got to catch up.
I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I got to do more. I got to do more. As soon as I let go of that feeling, and I was just like, whatever, like, I'm just
gonna do what I love to do. And I don't care anymore. That's when like things started to
kind of fall into place for me. So yeah, it's just being like self-aware. Where are you at?
Are you communicating effectively?
Are you good at your craft?
Are you so confident in what you do that you will go up and shake that person's hand and
introduce yourself and say, I'm ready for whatever opportunity this could possibly give me?
What if they're like, hey, I could put you on a stadium stage tomorrow? Would you be okay with that? Or would you be freaking out like, fuck, I'm not
ready for that? You know, like, you got to think about that. And if your goal is to get to that
stadium stage or whatever it is, get better, get like literally practice. It sounds like, you know,
that shit that your dad used to say when you're a kid, go practice, go practice, go practice. And you're like, shut up, dad. But seriously, go get so good at what you do that nobody can ignore you. That's my, that's my take.
That's my take.
Yeah, I think, you know, having a balance of recognizing your talent, your craft, but also being able to exhibit humility, too, in knowing that you might not be at the level that you want to be at. And especially when we talk about being professional, however you want
to define that word, but just getting better at your craft and yeah, just the act of doing
something, right. And instead of just being stagnant, I think that's very, very important,
you know, and I know for myself, sometimes I struggle with that. Sometimes I struggle with
comparisons in terms of not me
versus other people, but me versus me, you know, just in general, just saying like, man, I wish I
could have done this. So I wish I could have been doing this. Or even if I'm doing this, why is it
slow? Why am I not doing this? Or should I have done this turn or whatever it is, you know? But
my point is like, I think being gentle with the process.
I think you also mentioned being able to take a step back.
I think being able to take a step back was mentioned early on in the space as well in a different way.
But I think it still, you know, applies here in the sense of like, yeah, being able to step, take a step back and reflect on, OK, what do I really want to do?
reflect on, okay, what do I really want to do? Am I really at the level do I really aspire to be?
Or do I need to like exhibit more action steps in order to reach the level that I want to
be at, let alone, you know, achieve the opportunities that, you know, they'll be
lucrative, whatever lucrative looks like. Your eyes got to be on the one prize, man.
Everybody up here, we are going to create a new world.
We're basically going to take over the world.
Not because we have to fight the world to take over the world.
We're just going to recreate our own little world.
And boy, oh boy, behind the scenes, I don't know about you guys,
but I could perhaps maybe take over the world.
Maybe.
I don't want to.
But I could if I need to, which is very interesting.
And it goes deep.
But all of you up here, forget it.
You got the best singer-songwriter on this planet up here.
I got some of my friends now doing things that I can't even, it's crazy.
You know, there's a kid I put in my book.
I told you guys last time I put in my book.
A friend of mine, a local kid, this and that. You know, there's a kid I put in my book. I told you guys last time I put my book, a friend of mine, a local kid, this and that. You know, he was a triple A baseball coach. Nothing,
nothing big. Right now, he's the bench coach for the San Diego Padres, and they're one of
the best teams in baseball. Meaning that that kid's, I'm watching kids create magic everywhere.
I don't know what's going on, but whoever could believe in magic will create it.
And there is a book.
It's called The Magic of Thinking Big.
Everybody's got to read that book.
That'll show you to enhance your thoughts.
You could think, all right, I just want to, you know, hit a single.
That's my goal.
No, think big.
Think big.
Not hitting a home run.
Think buying your own baseball team. Think crazy right
now. And I think that's how this reality works. You put these thoughts in your head. You open up
the lines of time. You let the unconscious mind work on it and plan it all out. And it may take
a little time. That's why the manifestation takes a little time. Because by the time it gets to you
and you start taking action, it's already perfected. And that's how this reality works, I believe.
Well, I could be wrong, but I don't think so. So far, it's right.
But it could be wrong.
But I think-
Yo, bro, bro, I'm just like-
bro bro like manifestation goes a long way
Man, manifestation goes a long way.
man i missed the last 60 seconds of what you said aj but yeah ditto bro whatever you said man
uh all right let's see we're gonna do this yo we're gonna go to rose and then we're gonna go to
josh and then i want to say hi to bridget because she's on stage. And then I also see TK on stage.
I see Stonk in the building. Thank you, Stonk. Good to see you, bro. I see Danny's here as well.
Thank you for being here. And everybody that's been here in the space, thank you for supporting.
But yeah, Rose, what are your thoughts?
Actually, I love what Mela said about the 90% thing because I was thinking of it this way.
90% is an illusion. 10% is reality. And your thoughts and what you're doing up there,
that's part of the 90%. And if you can build a bridge from that 90% to that 10% and ground it in that 10% and that reality. That's exactly, I think,
what you're talking about. And I don't know exactly what to call that bridge. I don't know,
but maybe perseverance. I don't know. I don't know. But it's, it, you know, I think that it,
writing it all out, writing it all out writing it all out journal you know what what is
an illusion and what is reality and then figure it out and like we can worry about yesterday
we can think about the future right but it's not the destination it's the journey and mel is right
in the middle of it she's right in them and every. And every time she, even if she's singing alone,
she's on that stage.
Even if she's singing alone,
because past, present, future, baby,
past, present, future, you're in it in that moment.
You are there, you are brave, you are strong,
you're using your voice.
You're just as intelligent
as you are talented and beautiful.
And what I wanted to say was that today, my husband and I
went and did the storage unit, right? And I didn't really want to go. I was like, just take, you know,
take some of them and blah, blah, blah, because it's like a whole family thing, right? And
like 10 minutes after he left, I was like, called him. I was like, you want to come pick me up?
And so he came back for me and I walked
down the end of the road and we left and we get to this unit and um I I recognized right away that
the last name of the person who owns it is love literally love l-o-v-e and then I like I save some
of the I save a lot of the diaries that I find.
And that's kind of like what piques my interest and like whatever, and just kind of like helping
and whatever taking along.
Right.
And in all the journals, she like the ones that I opened up to, it had like date, like
2018, 2016, 2000, like whatever.
Right.
And then even in the first one that i read she was writing down and
she wrote down her prayers so she was saying lord please help me i want to be out of debt
please lord help me i want to get my finances in order thank on envelope she would write like
lord thank you for this checking account so that i can do good, please pray that I do good with this checking account. Stuff like this, right?
And the thing that I noticed was no judgment or anything.
But every time she wrote the word want, she actually didn't write the A properly.
So she was actually writing the word won't.
So think about that. Every time you want something, you won't something. If you're not in
the present, if you're not in the present, because it's birthed right there through the intent,
you set the intention and it's birthed through that process. And then you let it go and you let
God do it and you get out of your own way and you become that observer and you just live your life.
And you get out of your own way.
And you become that observer.
And you just live your life.
And day to day, like I said, worried about the past or the future.
But just ground all of those and embody all of those right now.
Your role is down.
Before Josh, I know Josh has his hands up.
I just want to respond to Rose because, you know, in my book, I speak about this.
The idea is exactly what you're saying.
Instead of praying for something, what some of the top people do, they don't pray for it.
They already like pretend that it already happened.
They see it.
They feel it as if it already happened.
And it kind of creates that timeline.
And you tell the universe, all right, this is what I want to happen.
And the universe does that.
And then they give thanks to the universe for allowing that to happen.
And that's how they manifest.
They do it that way.
They do it by seeing it and by feeling it and feeling in the body and knowing beyond
a shadow of a doubt that it's going to happen.
I'll end it.
I think Prez is in the president's office.
Absolutely.
Can I just say one more thing?
Sorry.
I just wanted to say that, like, obviously, her storage unit, they had four locks on the
ground because every time she was about to lose it, she'd find the money, scrape the
money up to pay it off. Right. And finally she let it go. Finally. And I could feel
that energy finally. Cause this is a lot of energy work. Okay guys. Like I'm talking to relics. Okay.
Um, and like she finally let it go. And you know what it was? It was clothes.
It was shoes.
Size nine, baby.
And there was a pair of good sneakers.
But like, you know what I mean?
Let it go.
We don't need, when you're showing up with your heart, you don't, it doesn't matter what
you're wearing.
So half of the people on this app are naked in a bathtub.
Do you not know that when you're in a space?
No, I'm just kidding.
But like, um, I did find one other person that when you're in a space no I'm just kidding but like um I did find one other
person that liked to bath in space but um regardless of that um I'm gonna be quiet now
because I made it awkward for myself but thank you yes on the locker yeah so she finally let it go
and she just I just I felt that and you know I'm going to donate the shoes, the clothes, and,
you know, I got some stuff for my house, and I'm going to save that diary, you know, and put it in
that little collection. Because some days I just go in there to that little pile, and I just look
at a date. And I look at what they're praying about, or what's going on in their grandchild's
life, or whatever. And I don't know, it just kind of, it grounds me. And like, I feel like that's kind of the same way that we look at each other.
We're all books. Why not be an open book? You know?
Why not be an open book? Well, I think part of it is trust issues.
trust issues. But no, yeah, thank you, Rose. I appreciate that share. And I know you guys are
my books. I get educated from y'all. So I know I'll be consuming, well, not just creativity,
but knowledge, which might be rooted in creativity as well, just by being able to listen to y'all and
not just the expertise side of things, but the life experiences as well. So
yeah, I appreciate that, Shero's. But we're going to go to Josh. And then I want to say hi to
Bridget. And then I see we got TK on stage as well. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate that.
AJ, you're always welcome to reflect whenever, man. So feel free to do so. But yeah, Josh,
collect whenever man so feel free to do so but yeah josh welcome man man um prez already knows
what i'm gonna drop on you guys i'm gonna play a song as well um but aj that was a great share
shoot big don't go little um amela that your share was great as well. So as an artist, the music industry is tough.
And you know what?
I had to come to the conclusion, because I was very self-conscious,
unconfident in whatnot.
And I'm like, no, I'm just going to keep pushing through.
And my goal when I initially started was I want one song that's picked up by somebody.
One song. And maybe it'll get out to the atmosphere of the world, as AJ was talking about.
One song can change the world.
And interestingly enough, over the last couple of weeks, because I'm very humble about it I'm still
very self-conscious about my lyrics and what I produce and whatnot and working with my collaborators
because I do have a production team and I do have things that are actually produced produced and master recorded. But check this out. Prez, some of this you know and some of it you
don't know. I just had a brand new artist this week that is a fabulous performer and he wants
to do one of my songs. And he asked me and I said, okay, well, we need to work through the channels
to do it correctly.
But I want it to, he's like,
man, I really want to do this song.
Can I do it?
It was my lyrics.
He's like, can I cover it?
Can I produce this and whatnot?
I'm like, okay.
So that caught me off guard.
I have another song that I did and it's being remastered and produced
and it's going to go out on an actual album, like, uh, through a major label and it's going
to go out on an album. And I'm like, Whoa. And then I get a phone call the other day,
somebody telling me, Josh, we're going to take another one of your songs that's already been produced.
And we're going to give you Artist of the Year Award, Christian Song Award, and like a gold record award.
And I'm like, what?
There's just too many things happening. And all
I wanted was just one song and somebody to pick it up and find some benefit out of it.
Because I've been very humble with all of my music of just, you know, especially my Christian stuff,
if it meets somebody in their walk with God, that it meets them. That's all I care about.
I don't care about the money. I don't care about, you know, becoming a full-time, you know, in the music industry.
I'm just doing it because I love it, and I have a passion for others, and I love music so much
that I, you know, would be honest to be a free gift to the world. But people are picking it up out of nowhere.
And God's like, well, I'm going to show you how you can be a blessing to the world.
And I'm going to be a blessing back to you.
And so prayer works in mysterious ways.
I'll say that.
It works in mysterious ways.
Oh, God.
God works.
But you're right.
Prayer. Remember the Old Testament when he said, hold on, hold on, Junior. Hold on, bro. Hold on. Sorry, bro. Sorry.
Thank you. Go ahead, Josh. No, I was landing my plane there. But this song, I'm going to play a
song. So Prez gave me an open floor to play a song and I was contemplating which song I want to play.
But this song is More Than You Know. That's the title of the song. More Than You Know.
It was a song that I wrote. These lyrics are 100% mine, but I did use AI to do the music behind it and perform it.
So I'm going to play it. It's about, it's literally exactly three minutes long.
So give me just a second here.
I was going to say, I was going to say, Josh, imagine like he was like, all right, ready.
I like big butts and I can not lie.
It was like some shit, something like that.
I don't know.
Bro.
I'm sorry.
It's funny you said that because I literally just heard that three nights ago but anyway go
ahead bro all right so i wrote the song for my wifey god bless you and prez you know the drill
let me know you got to be my assistant dj here
i love you more than you know.
I love you more than you know.
You're my everything.
I cry and sing.
Hear my words.
To you I bring a new melody.
Hear my song.
I love you so much.
This can't be wrong.
Holding you tight with all my might Don't let this pass, it's fragile like glass
My little angel, I'm here for you
Close and near, there's nothing to fear
I love you more than you know
I love you more than you know
I love you more than you know
I love you more than you know.
Something new.
Walking into my life.
Is it true?
Falling in love with you.
Knocked off my feet.
I can't explain explain You came my way
I hope you will stay
Holding you tight with all my might
Don't let this pass, it's fragile like glass
My little angel, I'm here for you
Close and near, there's nothing to fear.
I love you more than you know. I love you more than you know.
I love you more than you know. I love you more than you know.
I love you more than you know.
I love you more than you know.
I love you more than you know i love you more than you know
well done brother well done.
Thank you, Josh.
I appreciate that, man.
Yeah.
So is that going to be released or is it already released?
And if it is, is it on all platforms?
I believe I got that one on Spotify and streaming,
but it's in my YouTube channel.
I can pop the links down below.
But yeah, that one has been released.
It's one that I wrote a few months ago.
And I've got one more if there's time, but I told Prez that I did not want to take up more time.
I got a more upbeat one, more of a pop song, um, with a female vocal. Um, again, the title of that one is
you were the spark. So that was the one that I was contemplating Prez. You were the spark,
but I can pop those down in the chat bubble. If anybody wants to check out my YouTube channel.
Um, and then you can find me can find me on Spotify and Apple play,
Apple music and other streaming platforms.
Yeah.
Nah.
Yeah.
Awesome.
That's a great idea.
Can you sing it for a junior?
Hold on,
man.
Just a second.
Sorry.
How can we find Mela B too?
Josh has some,
some good ways to find him.
How can we find you M B too? Josh has some good ways to find him. How can we find you, Mella?
Oh, shit.
Sorry.
How can you find me?
There's a link in my bio.
If you click that, I'll show you all my links to everything.
But I'm on all social media platforms at Mella B official.
I'm on all streaming platforms under the name Mella B.
And I'm on all streaming platforms under the name meli b uh and i'm on patreon patreon is a cool way i sound like i'm doing like a actually i'm gonna do it i'm gonna find me on patreon patreon
is a great way to support i know you're like you're oh it's that's true it's brutal we gotta promote it come on i know
um but yeah i'm everywhere um all at once at the exact same time if you look you'll find me
we gotta go off meliby is mainstream so spotify is fine but come on guys we need money in the pockets of artists that's the focus i
remember this 20 years ago and it's like it's the same battle spotify uh lime wire all that
bullshit we gotta put money in the pockets of the artists folks that like come on grassroots
come on, grassroots.
Right?
Alright, throw some money.
Throw some money. I'll double it.
Hey, I got a couple bucks.
Hey, you.
Hey, I got a couple bucks.
My buck.
Do you guys list your
stuff on NFTs too?
Just curious.
I've never did nothing, sweetheart.
I got my first cell phone in
2018. I got my first cell phone in 2018.
I'm a fucking agent.
I have NFTs.
I've done the NFTs.
I'm a self-adventure.
I got lots of money.
Yeah.
I got connections.
Listen, sweetheart.
I got connections.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's what they all say.
Everyone says they got connections.
Okay, do you want my name?
I mean.
No, do you want my name and address?
Yeah, let's go.
My name's Nicholas Michael
Mason.
21 Five Houses Road.
I'm joking. Don't give me
your name. Don't give me your address. Don't give your
mother's maiden name. Don't give out any of your
personal information. That is dangerous to do on the
internet. I don't...
I was just joking
hey listen no I'm just saying you didn't do nothing I'm saying I did that I said
my name hold up do you want my name in it oh yeah we're gonna have to mute
prez go ahead yo damn man I did a long time ago, you know.
Bro, how are you speaking through the music?
He's on an Android.
Hey, yo, forget about it, you know.
I'm getting back to the Purple Gang, you know.
I'll mute his mic.
I muted him.
Hey, listen.
So I was going to say, Junior, we're going to go to you because it seems like you got that itch to speak right now, which is fine.
You know, before we tap in with the homegirl Bridget and then I see TK as well. to you because it seems like you got that itch to speak right now which is fine you know before
we tap in with the homegirl bridget and then i see tk as well but bro can you please stop like
interrupting when i am asking you to stop interrupting i've been respectful i've asked
you more than once i don't want to ask you again bro we're here to vibe out i don't mind us having
a popcorn style that's cool but at the same time bro like we gotta be
productive like I'm trying to listen to the conversation too and be able to reflect back
as a host you know what I'm saying so with that being said Mello you got anything before we go to
him and then I'm not gonna lie I forget what we were oh yeah we were just talking about supporting
artists it's important.
Support artists.
People always ask me what's the best way to support an artist,
and it is to literally directly support them.
Because all these platforms, what they love to do is they like to take a cut of everything,
you know, just like the government does to us.
These platforms like to take a cut of everything.
So if you want to directly support an artist, yeah.
The best way to do it is just straight up go to a show.
I don't know.
Buy a ticket to their show.
Buy their merch.
Tip them. And I'm not saying this is just me.
There's plenty of really talented musicians that
come on these this platform every single day and they sing their heart out or they play their heart
out and um yeah like it's just maybe the most talented oh shush it's it's just it's a hard
path to take and um I commend those that you you know, are pushing through.
Because it's Robo.
But you're better than everybody else, right?
No, no, no.
Dude, I want to collaborate with everybody else.
I want to make music with other people.
My dream is to just have this big, like, I wish I could have this big property where I could just host, know all my favorite musicians and like we could all
just get together and make a bunch of music because i just there's so many really talented
people out there um and that's what we all want to do we all just want to vibe we're circling back
remember we were saying earlier we all just want to vibe that's it so i i heard a thing when i was
younger and they said the revolution
hold on real quick
I'm sorry
we'll get right to you bro
I'm sorry I over spoke you
you're good man
I just want to say
Mela
in terms of taking opportunities
put me on that list
I would definitely
love to make a record with you sometime I I know you're in album mode, so definitely not now, but just a regular single out here. It could be a demo. I don't really care, but that would be nice. I think that would be nice for me too, just to be able to collaborate with different people.
well you know i know we kind of talked about it a little bit but you know definitely man i'm down
for that as well and aj whenever you take over the world brother or anybody in this space don't
forget about me okay guys don't forget about me i ain't trying to be left alone here i ain't trying
to be isolated you good bro junior hold up you want connections listen to me son you hold up
so i i'm 42 You're talking to Casey.
Okay, Casey. I got you.
You want Connections, bro? I got all your fucking deal, bro.
Hey, Casey. Hold on. I got you, man.
Let me ask you
a question, you know, so you can
chime in on that.
Right? And I appreciate the
Dual Connections thing. Yeah, it's great to network.
I just want to say one thing, bro.
Hold on, Casey.
Relax, dude. Casey.
All right, sorry.
Relax, dude, please.
Yeah, the dual connections thing.
It's great to network and connect with people, right, in these spaces.
And I think that's one of the things that I'm grateful for.
And this space is an example of that. But to the topic of the space and if you can just chime in on that real quick
you know what are some creative pursuits that you've consumed either recently or just in general
that you feel have impacted your state of being you know i think the common thread i can tell
you brother okay so i grow my plane and then I'll let you have the floor, bro. Oh, shit.
Sorry.
I thought you were done.
No, you're good.
One of the commonalities.
I'm good, but I thought you were done.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
If you let me finish speaking, then you'll know when I'm done.
Well, don't say I'm good, bro.
I'm nefarious.
Okay, so one of the common threads that have been spoken about in this space is that, you know, the different forms of creativity has been mostly positive, I think.
That's what I've heard mostly so far.
So I wonder for you, what are the different forms of pursuits for yourself that you've been pursuing and how they impacted you, either positively or negatively?
Okay, brother.
That's beautiful. That's beautiful.
That's beautiful.
I love the question.
So there's one thing that I struggle with and it was never pursuing.
I always ebbed because at a, at a very young age,
I understand that things you can't,
you can't manipulate reality.
Although you might think you're cool but like you know
i'm saying like you got to go with the flow like the mojo so you got to read the room it's kind of
like a mixture of like you got to have your own but but like i never i never i never did that pursuit
of like i have a um an agenda i was like um neutral i was like a gray man you know yeah i with these
dudes no you're the wisest of all you're the wisest of all i'm gonna tell you why no i'm
talking i grew up with like like gangbangers bro all right but i'm gonna say what you said
you never had like a creative person i never
took sides bro i said you guys should get along i try to explain them like you guys just try to
work together because you got you got outside influence no i try tell these guys you gotta
get along faggots hey junior this is josh and You can look at my profile right now.
Well, my name's Nicholas Michael Casey.
Do you want my address, motherfucker?
Hey, Junior.
I doxed myself years ago.
Okay, hold on, man.
I'm not trying to fucking threaten you.
I'm just saying, do you know who the fuck you're talking to, motherfucker?
And you don't...
Hold on real quick.
Hey, Casey, Josh is my homie, bro.
I ain't going to tolerate no disrespect to anybody on the panel for that matter.
Dude, well, first off, thank you for your share.
I appreciate that.
We're going to move on.
I just want us to move on. We're just going to move on from that. You're going to move on I just want us to move on
we're just going to move on from that
you're welcome to stay on stage
I think AJ wanted to reflect back to you
I'll probably let him do that
but maybe I'll just piggyback off that a little bit
it sounds like what he was saying
and AJ I think you can relate to that as well
I'd say even Josh
a lot of other people too
when it comes to adverse experiences, right?
And, you know, the wisdom that comes with that. And I think perhaps that's what, you know, the
gentleman was hinting at with his share as well. You know, and I think you were going to touch on
that too. Like, you know, like don't undermine or underestimate those experiences and how
they've shaped you. And maybe you weren't tangibly creatively,
sorry, tangibly pursuing creative pursuits rather, but just your experiences in itself,
that in itself can be a form of creativity. So I'm going to let AJ reflect back to you real quick,
and then I'm going to go to Josh. And then, yeah, we're going to keep it going. I want to say hi
to Bridget, and then I want to hear from TK as well. He's on And then, yeah, we're going to keep it going. I want to say hi to Bridget. And then I want to hear from TK as well.
He's on stage.
So, yeah, we're going to keep it going.
Go ahead, AJ.
Yo, yeah, I was going to say, he was saying something interesting, Casey.
He was saying something to the fact that I thought he was going with the fact that he didn't find a creative endeavor so far that he wanted. And the person who hasn't found a creative endeavor,
or even the person who's not creative, they actually become a mirror to make the creative
person feel more creative. Meaning that it's more like a virtuous thing to almost not shine
in this world. Sometimes you could be the homeless person on the street and that homeless person will do more
for this world than
your presidents. Why? Because they'll show you
that
A, you know,
you're lucky you have a house or you have
somewhere to go.
You're somebody
that brings me like Joyce.
Does that make sense? Because
I try to explain this hood you
just said it bro like these guys sometimes it's better to be with
nothing like this the faggot said he's like oh you're gonna have nothing but
you're gonna there's some true to that bro it's fucking scary
i don't have a solution bro like i don't know what bro like you know what i mean like where's
the solution you got these people on drugs they're on welfare All these young kids, they don't want to work no more. Nah, they don't want to work no more, bro.
All right, Casey, stay up here.
The fucking kids don't work no more, bro.
Chill out, relax.
We got to get out of here.
Nah, fuck.
I'm fucked, bro.
I see that.
These kids don't want to work no more, bro.
I don't want to work either.
Do you want to fucking work?
What the fuck are you talking about?
That's what I said to them.
That's what I said to them, bro. to them. I don't blame you, son.
I don't blame you guys, bro.
All right, you got to drop him.
They're a bunch of bums.
I want to hear Bridget.
You got to drop him real fast.
Casey, come back up in a little bit.
Hey, Casey.
What's that? I bit. Hey, Casey.
What's that?
I love you guys, bro.
I fucking love you guys, bro.
Hey, Casey, real quick. I'm sorry.
I'm talking at times.
I'm sorry.
I'm drunk.
I'm sorry, bro.
I'm you more still.
Hey, bro.
Don't drop me, bro.
Please don't drop me.
Can you please mute your mic?
I fucking love you guys, bro. Can you please mute your mic? I fucking love you guys, bro.
Can you please mute your mic?
I just did multiple times,
son. Bro, if you
keep on doing that, I'm going to definitely drop you down.
Last time, I'm done.
Okay, AJ, you want to land your
plane maybe in 30 seconds?
Yeah, I'm landed. I want to hear Bridget.
Bridget or Josh.
We're going to go to Josh,'re gonna we're gonna we're gonna go
to josh and then we'll go to bridget okay and then um we'll go to tk well tk went down tk you're
more than welcome to come up brother but yeah uh go ahead aj uh bridget
you're good aj yeah I'm all good.
All right.
Let's go to Josh, and then we'll go to Bridget.
Hey, actually, Josh, just before you go, Casey, please, bro,
please don't interrupt as Brother Josh is speaking.
Just let him rock.
And then I definitely want to say hi to Bridget as well.
And then, yeah, guys, let's keep on vibing out and rocking.
And thank you guys for your patience and the support as well.
Go ahead, Josh.
No, thank you, brother.
You're good.
Casey, Casey.
You guys are weird.
Sorry, Josh.
Go ahead, Josh. Go ahead, Josh.
Go ahead, Josh.
It's okay, Casey. It's okay.
Take a breath.
I'm sorry, brother.
You guys are rare. That's all I had to say.
You guys are rare.
Casey, you got to take a lap.
We love you, brother, but we've got to close our case.
I'm drunk as hell.
I know. Just do a lap and come back.
We got to end it. We got to end it off on I'm drunk as hell. I know, I know. Just do a lap and come back. All right, we've got to end it.
We've got to end it off on a high note.
Hey, you drunk as hell, you know.
All right, so who's next, Josh?
I'm taking a pause before I respond.
You know, there's a thing that we call in these spaces of reading the room and the vibration.
We had a really good flow going.
And, you know, sometimes people come in with different thoughts and opinions, and that's okay.
Prez, I applaud you for being so patient.
The only reason why I open mic is because Prez is very close to me,
and I'm not going to let somebody come in and shatter the atmosphere that Prez has created.
And I just, I won't stand for that because I'm a very patient man. I'm very kind
and gentle. And Prez just saw a side of me that doesn't normally come out. But when you,
when you touch my family, you touch my friends, I am not going to stand in the background
and let it happen because it's not Prez's job, even as the host,
it's not his job to, um, um, you know, sometimes come in and be the bad cop and come in and say,
Hey, we're, we're focused on, uh, creativity and how does it impact our state of being?
This is what we're talking about. It's not about any other topic right now. If you want to talk about another topic go find another space and
You know have your you know outlet there
But right now we were having a really good vibe and we had a little disruption and that's okay because that happens
Because we all have our different perspectives. I'm me.
Prez is Prez.
Mele is her and Bright and AJ and TK and Jane.
We all have our different perspectives.
Hello, Danny.
What's up, beautiful?
We all have our different perspectives. Um, but we also have to be, you know, aware of, um, uh, the,
the atmosphere that's being created and where the conversation's going. And I love the ebb and
flows of conversations. They go in and out, they weave, uh, back and forth. Um, and that's okay.
Um, but that sounded very intentional and I'm sorry that the individual's not here because
I wanted to still tell that individual, Hey, we love you.
Not sure where you're at tonight, but you know, blessings, my friend.
Um, it sounded like he was a little frustrated.
Um, but you know, I've been frustrated too and, um, I, I can relate and I will sit down
and conversate with you.
Um, uh, I and conversate with you.
I'll conversate with anybody.
I don't matter who, it doesn't matter who you are, where you came from or what your issues are.
It doesn't matter to me.
I'm going to love you where you're at, but we also have to be mindful where others are
And so anyways, Prez, I'm sorry for jumping in. I apologize, bro. Um, I didn't want
to go that far. Um, but I was like, now I ha I had to, I had to pull the red light ticket.
And that was Josh, that was the most fun all night, man. You kidding me?
Well, I know it's fun, but it, you know, I know that's not the direction of where, um, uh,
the, the atmosphere was going and I didn't, and I felt bad for pulling the plug.
It just, oh, it just was like, man, Prez was going to keep them up here all month.
Jesus Prez, you gotta, you gotta pull the trigger, man.
What the hell is that?
Yeah.
And I was just going to chime in on that, AJ.
My apologies to the space that I let it rock out.
Mela, how are you feeling?
I saw the laugh emoji, so I feel like you're just chilling, which is a good thing. Yeah, I'm chilling.
I'm chilling.
Cool, cool, cool.
But, Naya, I don't know.
The thing is, I-
Like, stop, stop.
I'm going to put you in timeout. I'm going to put you in timeout, Casey.
Now, listen, AJ, man, the thing is, I have a lot of fire within me, too. You know what I mean? You know, Josh is talking about, you know, not wanting to show that side or, you know, not just wanting to come off that way. I completely get it. Right. And it's not code switching or masking or anything i just get exactly what he was saying
because i can relate to that too but i think part of my own individual path and i don't want to make
this some tacky spiritual thing but like i think being able to exhibit patience and trying to be
intentional as i can and i want to exercise that i'm not perfect at it and I know I'm not the finished article myself
so I think with
that being said, I think that's why
I let that roll. No press.
I'm going to have to say you got it all wrong on this one.
Bro, you got to be bold, man.
You got to be more bold.
No, I can be more bold.
I get you, AJ.
You got to always be more bold everywhere
from now on with everything and everyone. Bold. Only bold. I get you, AJ. You got to always be more bold everywhere from now on with everything and everyone.
Bold.
Only bold.
No light.
No take a step back.
Only go forward.
That's what you got to do.
Well, I guess that's your perception of it.
But it's not a light thing for me.
It's a character thing for me.
And even if you look into my human design
for the people who love the human design thing. But do you think that when people see you,
they don't see your power and you holding yourself back? They know you're holding yourself back.
Hey, you know that again, they want to see you in your boldness. Well, I'm being bold by being
honest about myself. And I'm talking about character. It's not about being bold. being honest about myself and i'm talking about character it's not about being bold
it's not about light or darkness it's just the type of time i'm on and i've been on that type
of time since childhood and so i mean again i don't want to use this experience the micro and
turning into the macro but my whole point is i can exhibit boldness bro Bro, I'm an Aries stellium. So it's within my... I don't know, man.
I'm not seeing boldness.
I don't know.
That's fair.
AJ, be nice.
That's fair.
God.
He's just rallying up.
No, I know.
Well, I peeped it.
No, I have a lot of respect for him.
He's the fucking man.
In his 20s like this,
with this knowledge and information,
God, I can only imagine with these kids,
the potential they have, some of them.
They're going to be massive leaders of this world in psychology, in psychotherapy.
Prez is going to be a leader in that.
You've got to test them.
It's all good.
I appreciate that.
And, Josh, thank you, man.
Thank you for sharing that.
Thank you for your patience and exhibiting restraint, however that looks like.
And thank you for reflecting back to him, even though he's not here.
I hope he can catch the playback and hear, you know, what you said as well, you know, even just in terms of having a conversation.
But, yeah, Danny, thank you for being here on stage.
But, Bridget, I see you.
Thank you for being here and being patient.
How was your day today? You don't have to chime in on the topic if you don't want to, but I definitely
wanted to say hi to you, but how are you doing? Hi. Well, what's up, you guys? My day's been good.
I've just been in creation mode all day. So speaking of creative, creativity.
Making babies?
Oh, you know that is not happening in my world.
But I do want to chime in on the topic from maybe a little bit of a different angle.
One of my favorite ways to exercise my creativity is to pull out my crystal balls and to spin them. But the way I do it is
something that I really, really love. So I tune in to my own physical and my etheric, emotional,
mental, spiritual, energetic systems. And I connect in with my high self and I will hear the tones and how long
to spin them and the speed of which to spin them as I play, right? So I get in this flow state
as I'm doing it. And then when I leave, when I'm done, I'm all bright and shiny, right? So it's
one of my favorite things to do. I also really love to play with AI art and generate it that way.
I do love to draw, but all my stuff, my drawing stuff is in storage.
But yeah, I love to create.
I think creativity for me.
But you have to be bold.
You have to be positive.
And you have to be bold in the face of danger.
You never back down.
Now you're turning into Casey.
You're so funny.
I will say, AJ, I love how you can connect with anyone
no matter where they are.
And at the same time, be connecting with them
and then say, all right, you got to go down.
That's something that cracks me up about you.
And I love it.
And I do think you have a lot of patience, Prez, and that was shown
tonight. So yeah, I think creativity makes the world a better place. I feel like our inspiration
is revved up every time we do something creative, whether it's something relaxing that's creative,
something that's more energetic, like dancing, which I also love to do.
But yeah, I think for me, I have to have a sprinkling of it all week long, right?
I can't just like, you know, grind on something.
I have to sprinkle in creativity the whole week. So whatever the flavor that is for me, it, that will change from moment to moment,
whatever I'm in the mood for really. But yeah, like even I'm horrible at roller skating,
but I love doing it. So I'll like toss on the skates and go up there and that's a form of
creativity for me as well. Right. So, um, yeah, I don't know. I think it just,
I don't know.
I think it just.
why don't you tell everybody your soccer days?
Why don't you tell everybody your soccer days?
I did.
I used to play soccer my whole life.
I grew up playing soccer.
That for me was more strategic though, AJ.
It wasn't as creative.
It was more.
It was all about strategy.
But yeah.
I love this conversation.
I've loved.
We've got a bold athlete with bold genes.
Oh, please.
I'm not an athlete anymore.
But I used to be when I was younger.
But yeah, no.
This girl is not an athlete anymore.
That's why skating is a pain in the ass.
But it is also really fun.
So I don't care if I'm...
There are certain things I don't care if I suck at.
Hula hooping and roller skating, those are two of those things.
Though I do strive to be better at roller skating,
hula hooping, it's hilarious to suck at. So that's, that's probably why I suck at it still.
But yeah, anyway, I, I really love you guys. Um, all my friends in here and I've really enjoyed
listening to everybody's, everybody's take on, on this conversation, Prez, another good one.
And Mella B sending you so much love.
I'm so excited about everything you're producing and creating.
It is so fun.
And I hope you're enjoying every second of it.
Just, just living in the moment with all of it.
Oh, thanks, Bridget.
You're welcome.
Girl, good to hear your voice.
Mella B, what did you do in high school?
Speaking of Bridget playing soccer, what did you do?
Were you like a cheerleader?
I was a music kid.
I was exactly who I am.
I've been doing music forever.
So that's what I did.
Yeah.
I was like the, I was me.
I was the musician, the stoner girl. That was, people always thought it was weird because I was the girl that was like the I was me I was the musician the stoner girl that was people always thought
it was weird because I was the girl that was like at the pit smoking weed being like a degenerate
and all my friends were like complete degenerates but then I went to class and I got like straight
A's I was writing people's essays for them they I would, yeah, I was making money. That's fucking hot.
I was making money.
My teacher would come up to me and be like,
you know I can tell, right, that you're writing these essays.
I was just like, and then one time I wrote,
sorry, this is like a side note, sidebar.
I was writing, I think maybe it was like four essays at the same time.
And I took a risk with this one because I usually wouldn't write more than my essay and someone else's essay if we were in the same class.
Because I didn't want the teacher to be like, what the fuck are you doing?
But this one, I just took a risk on it.
And I wrote like maybe three or four.
And I don't know why, but I wrote mine last and I was exhausted I was like
time crunched and I was exhausted and they all got a better grade than me which was ridiculous
and um yeah I think the I think the teacher knew and that was her way of punishing me. And I was like, this motherfucker.
So, yeah, that was me. I was a bit of a degenerate, but like in a smart way,
if that makes sense.
I was making that money.
It was fun.
Fun while it lasted.
Didn't last forever.
We need pics.
We need Melody pics in high school,
in her childhood.
We need the whole story.
You can't deny us that story.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think I have some pictures somewhere.
I was just like,
I don't know.
I don't know how to explain.
I see it.
I can, I'll find a picture.
I'll put it in the comments.
One second.
Be bold and follow the yellow brick road.
Follow the yellow brick road.
Hold on, Zach, real quick.
Bridget, thank you.
Appreciate your share. Thank you for being here.
Mella as well. Okay, we're going to go to Josh and then Danny. I see you on stage and TK. I also
see you on stage. Thank you for coming back up. And then Zach, we're going to go back to you as
well. But yeah, Josh, what's up, man?
I don't really have much to say at this moment.
I took my hand down.
I had other words to share, but I think it's been a great reset.
And the vibration has been sucked back into the room of where it was at and so I'm just enjoying listening hello
Bridget and Danny and TK that have not spoken yet I'm just I'm excited to be
here Prez is my bro I'm just excited to be here and be a support to all of you
and your journeys and being creative so, let's just continue on with the conversation.
If we got time, I'll maybe share more.
And Josh, we're glad to have you and your wonderful wife.
Just great balances on this app.
You see people get dragged into drama.
There's some balances here.
We can look up to them.
Thank you, Josh.
Yeah, thank you, Josh. And yeah, you're right,
AJ, Dr. Christina and Josh, man. They're great, man. What they do with their spaces. And, you know, I always talk about this too, honoring their individuality and, you know, what they bring to
the table as individuals as well. You know, it's super dope to see. So yeah, go ahead, AJ. And then
we're going to tap in with Danny and TK.
You want me to say something, AJ?
I saw your mic
come out. I don't know if you were...
You good?
Okay.
Danny, I see you on stage.
Welcome. Thank you for being here.
What are your thoughts on the topic?
I'm just trying to figure out how to word it. Yeah, thank you for the space. I think it's first time coming up to speak, so it's kind of funny. I haven't felt this way in a space in a while.
Anyway, get those jitters, as it were.
The handlebar mustache makes you nervous, I think, right?
I have to say that again?
The handlebar mustache makes you nervous, Danny.
Of course, it's a handlebar mustache.
You read me so well.
I needed that.
Thanks for the humor.
No, so yeah, the topic, the title.
Because my thing, I'll jump right into it, the poetry.
And it's interesting to me how consumed creativity seemed rather poetic off of the jump.
But I guess I was consumed because I'm also a little bit in the same neighborhood as Bridget with AI art.
Actually, my PSP is also a bit of my AI art, but I kind of add to it.
For me, there's a little bit of what I call like AI art with a human element,
because I actually edit the base AI images that are created through, I guess, my process, as it were.
But my poetry is all me.
There's no AI to my poetry.
And I suppose consumed creativity, which is why it's a little
difficult because I guess the catalyst to my poetry was the passing of my mother last year.
That was a different...
Danny, you got a quick poem for us?
Yeah, I was kind of worried somebody was going to ask. now i feel like i can't say no um
yeah i mean i can give it to us
already i'll do that to appreciate it no pressure at all no pressure right um
all right this is the message coming from the gods. You're just the messenger girl
I guess I'll do one of my older pieces that I'm comfortable with
He is yes a lot in one shot, okay, and I
Titled this one logic
right so um alive but dead inside
alive but dead inside motions left to focus solved for x but the logic is broken
tired of the screeching voices plaguing her mind the abstract redefined like a stained glass window seen for the first time.
As she gazes in amazement, gripped by the sudden and chaotic vibrations,
lights and shadows dancing against the wall present a logical equation.
The fallacy, obvious enough, engulfs her mind like a wildfire raging forth.
Variables gather and dictate with force.
An erratic pattern forms, a puzzle of sorts.
A dynamic random shift of imagery, splashed with wonderful violentry.
The enigma, all but subdued, taunting and teasing, playing her the fool.
But the pieces align, accessing her third eye.
She's confident, moving with a wise and strong analytical mind with heavy vibes included with rhymes laughing at the concept of time playing chess not checkers may i digress and reset with switch
hit this vibe switch and rest in disbelief and epiphany the equation solved and victory proclaimed
for the logical thinker lives to fight another day
oh my god danny that was pretty good i gotta give it logically bold baby that was logically no that wasn't good guys that am i
no that was pretty good that was good i appreciate that stay up here i appreciate barely made it
through that one with the shaky voice but yeah i guess that's uh my consumed creativity or a bit of it. But yeah, it's kind of interesting to see what the
topping of title kind of revealed in the moment as, since the catalyst was the
passing of my mother. In a way, am I reliving that moment every time I write a
poem or am I channeling that energy or frequency or the grief as it were
because poetry became my outlet or she's speaking to you beyond the veil is what it said she's
able to give you messages and make you superhuman now that's what happens when people die
they reinforce your army in the spiritual and make you superhuman and give you the messages
i suppose it's very interesting because i mean i used to write when i was a kid or a teenager
like i hear this story so many times so it's very relatable but there was something missing or I couldn't access. Like I,
I didn't write like this until she passed. And it's rather frustrating to think like,
why couldn't I write this way before?
Because she had to pass for you to write this way.
She had to open up that message system from your higher self to you.
That's what happens in death.
My father died.
And I like woke up to all political. My father died, and I woke up to all political.
My father died.
He worked at 9-11 after the site.
My brother was in World Trade 7.
I tell everybody this all the time.
And, you know, my brother got out of there.
My father was the first one.
And he worked down there for a community of people who were sick and dying from 9-11 diseases.
Now, when he died, I woke up to 9-11
and all that stuff right after that.
I can't say that that's not a coincidence,
but I don't know.
But I know we got a lot of hands and stuff,
but thank you, Dani.
Yeah, thank you, AJ.
I appreciate the feedback
and thanks, Fred and Mella,
for hosting.
Josh, Bridget, great to see you guys um yeah hey
kimberly oh there's so many people wrecked kimber damn okay yeah i feel comfortable now um yeah thank
you for the mic i'll go ahead and pass it thank you and don't be estranged don't be strange if
you see us um well do appreciate it aj
see us. Well, I appreciate it, AJ. Yeah, Danny, you're more than welcome. And, you know,
yeah, I just thought about that. Like, I've never heard you speak before, and I've always seen you
in spaces. You're always listening. And so the fact that you chose to speak in this space, man,
I am very, very grateful and honored. And, you know, I hope you feel comfortable, you know, to come up and vibe with us whenever.
So you're more than welcome.
And thank you for sharing as well.
So I'm going to, you know, just use my little intuition and go to Bridget real quick.
And then we're going to go to Josh.
And then right after Bridget.
And then I haven't heard from TK.
I know he's been out here for a while.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
So we're going to go to Bridget. And then Josh, is it cool if we heard from TK. I know he's been up here for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we're going to go to Bridget.
And then Josh, is it cool if we go to TK?
And then we'll go back to you.
And then Zach, I see you on stage as well, man.
Definitely want to tap in with you as well.
So yeah, Bridget, what's up?
I was glitched.
And I wanted to pour into Danny, my sister Danny.
OK, first of all, I love your creativity. Even though you were nervous,
I could feel your nerves, sis, and you did great. And the poetry, I know, is very personal, right?
So I thought it was really beautiful. And I loved hearing and feeling your, like, where you were
going with it, right? So thank you for sharing that. And you know, I'm always happy to hear your voice.
And I've missed you.
It's been a minute.
There's too much love in this space.
I'm going to have to go to Kumar's space after this.
AJ, you better don't.
Offset this.
You better stop.
You're so bratty tonight.
But I love you.
Ended it with love.
Thank you, Bridget.
Appreciate that. Go ahead, Danny.
And then we'll go to T. Okay.
Yeah, I didn't want to
take much time, but yeah, thank you,
Bridget. I appreciate
the acknowledgement or shout out
it's been a while definitely have to catch up oh yeah she's talking you might not hear
I think you're glitched can you hear me I can hear Danny
press could you hear us He might be resetting.
Twitter being Twitter.
Yep.
Yo, TK, I haven't heard you, man.
Yo, kick it before this thing crashes.
I can hear you.
Yeah.
Oh, you can hear us now.
Could you hear Danny earlier?
Yo, can y'all hear me?
Yeah, can you hear us? Yo, I could hear y'all the first time. I was like, yo, can y'all hear me? Can y' you hear it? I could hear y'all the first time.
I was like, yo, can y'all hear me?
Can y'all hear me when y'all were asking me that?
But then, yeah, I went out the app and came back.
But, yeah, I heard what Danny said as well.
But, yeah, go ahead.
I don't know what was going on.
What were you guys talking about?
Someone was saying they had a crush on your press, and I was like, oh, really?
And, you know.
But here we are.
Yeah, there's no way that happened.
We're not going to tell you who.
Well, I mean.
But, yo, TK, what's up, TK?
What's going on, man?
I got to hear TK's voice.
I seen you on stage three times.
We never got to you.
We never get to you, bro.
What's up, man?
TK, thank you for your patience, man.
What are your thoughts, man?
And how's your day been today?
Hi, Prez.
Thank you for the mic. and thank you for the space
and it's great to be here with everybody um hi mella hi aj and hi josh and um hi everybody
uh in this room and it's um i'm really glad to be here with everyone everyone i just wanted to come up here and say hello to everyone. And yeah, just about
creativity. For me, I guess I just wanted to say creativity feeds my soul. Food feeds my body,
but creativity feeds my soul. So whenever I can be creative, I find it uplifting and it lifts my spirit.
So I really love being creative whenever I can.
And I find that it is an increasingly essential part of my life.
And I am grateful for every moment I can have to be creative.
And I also appreciate all the creative
people on this platform and um every moment i can share with um all the creative people
on this platform so uh thank you for letting letting me up today and um uh thank you for
letting me speak thank you dk best share of the whole night you. DK, best share of the whole night, man. That's the
best share of the whole night. And dude, I felt that. Yeah. You can't be a stranger either, man.
Come here. You're more than welcome that I felt that man. You guys didn't feel that.
Nah. Yeah, man. TK be around. Well, I mean, I know him from, you know, the style spaces,
you know what I mean? You know, Dr. Christina and Josh's spaces. So TK always has
a lot of profound wisdom to share. But just like all of you guys, everybody had their own
vibe to their own share. And yeah, man, feeding the soul. I think ultimately that's what it's
about, right? When we talk about impacting our state of being, it's not just surface level, but yeah, man, it goes deep.
It goes deep and it does get deep.
So I appreciate that, TK.
And yeah, man, as AJ said, you're more than welcome to come through, man, and vibe out and rock out with us whenever.
So Josh, what's going on, man?
And then I see Zach as well.
We'll go to Zach after.
What's up, Josh? Yeah, I I see Zach as well. We'll go to Zach after. What's up, Josh?
Yeah, I got to run, guys.
Love you guys.
You're out, AJ?
Yeah.
I actually do have to go soon.
Love you, Jerry.
I'm going to be here for a little bit longer.
But I just wanted to say, just in case I have to go while someone's talking,
this has been an incredible space.
And I hope we do a part three.
Nah, yeah, awesome. Yeah, we'll definitely set it up, man,
since y'all definitely want it, and we'll get through, you know, the rest of the hands,
definitely hear from Zach as well, and then Mela, if you're down for singing one more time before we dip, then yeah, and then we'll close out the space, I think, that way. So,
yeah, okay, sounds like a good action plan moving forward. Okay, go ahead, Josh. You're welcome, man.
I wish AJ didn't have to bounce out so quickly. I love what AJ was sharing back to Danny. Danny, and with, you know, Bridget's share as well back to you.
I want to just give you like an applause.
Really proud of you.
Really proud of you.
And you know what made your share super special, Danny?
Is just like Mello when she was singing her songs.
You can hear it in her voice.
There's a passion behind it.
There's a reason why she writes her lyrics as she does
and the way that she creates the melodies that she does.
But when you, Danny, were sharing your little writing,
I think it actually had more impact than it made you nervous because there was something
deep inside you that caused you to create that writing. And you captivated all of us, Danny.
But it's because you had the emotion behind it. and that's what music does. That's what art
does. Um, or writing stories. Um, that's what it does. You're trying to captivate your audience
and Danny, that was beautiful. It was beautiful. And I want to just also affirm your courage to
do that because that was hard because you put something of your emotions down on paper and
it might be a little intimidating or challenging to share it. And you did a beautiful job.
But even having that undertone of those feelings made your writing come to life. It came to
life for all of us. So we were all able to experience to a certain degree what you
were expressing. And that's awesome. That's what music does and all these other things
that are creative arts. So thank you for bringing us with you along your journey
and helping us feel a piece of you. So that was awesome, Danny. I just, that's all I want to do
is give an affirmation. But TK, it's good to see you, my friend. that was awesome, Danny. I just, that's all I want to do is give an affirmation.
But TK, it's good to see you, my friend.
I love you, bro.
Go ahead, Danny.
Oh, yeah, thank you, Prez.
I mean, I don't even, I mean, Josh, you know,
I'm terrible at compliments and taking compliments, but
yeah, thank you for that acknowledgement, bringing that to the forefront.
I just guess real quick to acknowledge the balance, because even though that poetry has
a rather chaotic or solemn kind of origin, you know, passing of my mother. But when that poem catches fire, when my thumbs
catch fire, it's lightning in a bottle. It's the only way I can write. So if I don't catch it in
the moment, it's not going to come out like that and not have that passion there. And it's very
cathartic. It's very healing. Yeah, even now my voice is still shaking, but it's being on that edge, I guess, between the balance of order and chaos.
I don't know how I feel about light and darkness. I understand darkness to be a little different at this point.
To me, it's just peace, tranquility and serenity, two in one and that dance.
But I think for us here, yeah, thank you for the space. I'm so glad
I came in here. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Danny. That means a lot. I'm glad that you,
you know, you've been enjoying the space and you enjoyed popping through, man. So
glad that you're able to speak and share and share your poetry with us as well uh i really do appreciate that so okay i see um zach man you've been on stage for
quite a bit what are your thoughts on the topic welcome to the stage first and foremost how are
you doing and yeah what are your thoughts man how does consumed creativity impact your state of being? I mean, oh, man.
So I've been chilling.
I'm watching some football.
I've had a lot of thoughts over how long I've been on here.
But honestly, I've been just smoking a J and vibing to the positivity.
Like, this is honestly the best space.
Like, I joined a couple earlier and just nothing but arguing but this is the most
relaxing space and I'm literally smoking a J and I'm almost in a trance from the poem to the
positivity like I don't know that's all I gotta say is like this is relaxing i could pretty much fall asleep to this like in a
good way like yeah i'm and i'm pretty high but it's all love baby it's all love
yeah it sounds like uh the space in itself you know is a form of consumption. And, you know, it's making you vibe, man, making you chill.
And I appreciate that, man.
But what about other forms of creative pursuit, Zach?
You know, what are other forms of things that you consume that impact your state of being?
Damn, dude, that's a deep question.
I really like food and
i don't know what was the question again sorry i'm add as fuck
nah it's all good um yeah just well maybe we can stick with that food right like
how do you sorry sorry this this this will show my add in the poem she was talking
about writing and then i was like or she was talking about reading things out loud or something
and i was like damn i remember ar points like ar reading points and i remember just listening to
like lord of the rings on tape and i was like that's when you know your add is like yeah i
just want to listen i just want to get the ar points and that's when you know you're ADD it's like yeah I just want to listen I just
want to get the AR points and relax because I you know you just daydream and then when I was
listening to that poem I was basically put back into that memory of just daydreaming and and I
was smoking a J so I was like in a vibe that's why I was like I could, like, this is a trance. This is a great space.
Yeah, I'm in space right now.
Listening to a space while being in a space.
I feel it, man.
I feel it.
But, you know, I was just thinking about the food thing.
Even when TK was saying his share, even though I know he wasn't talking about food in this way he was talking about you know we consume food but you know creativity is what feeds his soul
but you know just i remember i'm pretty sure some of you guys used to watch these shows but like
kitchen nightmares by gordon ramsay and like you know some of his other shows as well like i don't
know what's the other one like hotel Hotel Something Something and MasterChef and all that.
Like, I don't know.
Like, watching those shows would help, like, inspire my creativity.
You know, not just with actual cooking, but just, like, even with writing my music.
I don't know why, but, like, it's just interesting, like, how consuming even other different forms of creativity can impact
not just our state of being but even the action steps that we put towards our main forte for lack
of better words you know whatever our main creative pursuit you know it may be and for me
it would be either you know music or just the act of writing in general in whatever capacity so
i just wanted to share that.
But yeah,
Zach,
thank you for being here,
man.
Josh,
I see your hands.
I appreciate that.
And last thing I want to say is I was,
all I was thinking about is like the creative blender,
just throwing little bits of shit in there and cooking it up.
All right.
That's all I got to say.
And I'm relaxing.
Love y'all.
Appreciate that. Zach, and I'm relaxing. Love y'all. Appreciate that, Zach.
Go ahead, Josh.
Oh, man, you just took me down an entire tangent, Zach and Prez.
Cooking.
I am not a foodie.
I barely eat, and I need to eat more, but I absolutely love cooking. But when I cook, I love doing
things like hibachi. So I got my fancy griddle and I'm out there cooking, you know, anything
from beef to chicken to seafood and some fried rice and vegetables and whatnot. I love cooking. And I find there's an art because I've watched all
those cooking shows. And it's like, you know, making it look just like perfect, even though
I'm not necessarily going to eat it, but I'm cooking for others. And then I serve them up a
plate. And it looks beautiful. I love that. So that was a great point on the cooking,
because that's being creative as well, being a chef. That's super creativity. And even though
I'm not enjoying it, I'm enjoying the process of being creative. So that's all I wanted to share
on that, Prez. I appreciate that, Josh. Yeah, I definitely find it rewarding, you know, being able to cook for someone or for a group of people, but just, you know, specifically someone. And I'd imagine, you know, your intimate partner or just, you know, family members as well. You know, there's just something about that, like, even if you're not the one consuming, you know, the dishes you're're creating but just like having other people and then like seeing them enjoy it too there's just
i don't know there's a vibe with that too you know so yeah josh i appreciate you um sharing that um
if you want to play that song you were thinking about you can definitely go ahead and then we'll
probably wrap it up here
with final thoughts from the panel unless
if anybody in this space wants to come up
you know we'll do final thoughts
and then definitely have Melody
close us out with the song as well
but thank you guys I just want to say I'm really
really grateful I generally do mean that
these shares have been dope
this has been a great part 2
I think I posted the part 1 to this space that we did many months ago. I do not know how long ago that was, but you can check it out for yourself down there in the comment section for people who want to check out part one.
We do part three. We'll think about a different angle. But it's all the same, man. Ultimately, we're going to talk about creativity, not just in terms of the external, but the internal piece, too. So appreciate everybody for being here and supporting the space. But yeah, Josh, you can go ahead and play that track if you like. And then we'll have final thoughts from everybody else.
else. Well, I'll give my final thought before I share, and then I'll close mic for the rest of
the evening. Thank you, Prez, for hosting this space. Melody, I'm super jazzed. After I get out
of the space, I get to go research you and find out all your content. And Danny, thank you for sharing
TK, Bridget, Brightlord
And others for sharing
The name of this song is You Were the Spark
It was written again for my significant other
But I also correlate this song and the lyrics to what you guys did for me tonight because
i'm excited to go back and write another song like i can't wait to get off the space prez i can't wait
to get off the space so i can get back to work and being creative um so thank you for the opportunity
bless y'all um have a great weekend um and um I will see you guys all in the next round. But thank you for helping, again, creating the spark for lit up my heart.
At first sight, shining so bright.
You looked at me, I looked at you.
Dad, you can this be true?
Can this be true?
At first glance, I saw the chance.
Take my hand.
Can we dance?
I didn't know until now to feel love.
Asking how.
Unlocking my heart, turning the key.
Now I see what love can be
You were the spark that lit up my heart
At first sight, shining so bright Being with you
My mind goes wild An sight, I love your style.
The way you speak, pierces through, my heart on fire, you are what I desire.
I didn't know, until now, to feel love asking how unlocking my heart turning the key.
Now I see what love can be.
You are the spark that lit up my heart.
At first I shining so bright.
The stars, the stars, warming my heart with the spark.
You were the spark, filling up my heart.
At first time, shining so bright. The stars, the stars, warming my heart with a star. Thank you, Josh.
Appreciate that.
I hope you posted your links.
I have gone through the comment section yet, but yeah, man,
definitely post your links down there. I'm not going to lie. I want to perform something too,
but I want to finish it up a little bit. I want to tighten it up a little bit, but then
like, I don't want Mela to sing and then like I perform because I don't know i feel like ending with me is just uh
not a vibe kill don't say that ending with you would be amazing prez yeah but you know mella
is different man you know it's you see even like okay so here's even like my competitiveness coming
out right giving you your flowers my competitiveness coming out, right? Giving you your flowers. My competitiveness is telling me, but you know, Mella got the angelic frequencies though.
So I feel like just like her closing us out, it's just going to be a movie.
It's going to be a vibe.
No, but no, I appreciate that though.
But I'm thinking, you know, obviously we got final thoughts. Okay. There's
someone here. Mimi, Mimi, do you actually have thoughts on the topic or are you here to just,
I don't know, man. Sometimes I never know like how you're going to vibe out with us,
but I'm going to bring you up on stage. We're about to do final thoughts, and I'm debating if I want to perform a piece or not,
and then definitely hear from Mela. But Mela, what should we do? Mela, what should we do? I
still need to finish it up, at least a few more bars anyway. So I definitely want to hear the
final thoughts from people. Mimi, I'm going to bring you up, hear your thoughts if you do have anything on the topic. And then, yeah,
we'll wrap it up. Josh, what's up,
man?
All I want to say is I second
Malwa's motion
where she can perform, and then we get
to get closed out with you. I second
that motion.
Okay.
Here's my question. Who
is more important per case?
Is it going to be Nails or Rock Nation?
Wait, who?
Wait, hold on, Mimi.
Rock Nation and who versus who?
A little scratch.
A little scratch a little scratch
what do you mean
yeah who are you comparing
Roc Nation to you said who's more
important
I'm talking about the case
you talking about the
Cardi B and Nicki Minaj
the fuck?
Why you so slow?
Summer school.
Which case is more important?
Rock Nation or Scratch?
I don't know.
I haven't been...
Well, you're going to learn today.
Okay.
Who's next?
Okay. Anybody else with final thoughts? Okay.
Anybody else with final thoughts?
Yeah.
And who can vote and who can't vote?
Hey, Mimi.
Out of these two females, one can vote.
Hold up.
Mimi, we finna wrap it up.
You know what I mean?
We're going to have final thoughts thoughts and then we're gonna have
melis singh and then maybe i'll perform a piece afterwards but i appreciate you coming up here
sharing your thoughts uh maybe i'll check out that case because i'm definitely not aware of it
obviously i know of rock nation for sure but um the cardi b nikki minaj thing i'm gonna be honest
with you that's not really i mean i grew up on That's not really, I mean, I grew up on Nicki, right?
You know what I mean?
I grew up on Nicki.
Okay.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Before you let me go, let me tell you something.
Go ahead.
Let me do it real quick.
I'm going to do it real quick.
I'm going to be honest.
be honest. I'm going to be
I'm going to be very clear.
very clear.
I remember when
this female
went
on this
American Idol.
At that time, there was
a whole female sitting
right there on the other end of
that table.
Let's do...
Okay, so I'm doing that.
Okay, longitude. Nikki was looking table. Let's do uh, okay, so I'm doing that. Okay.
Longitude.
Nikki was looking over there and then there's a whole
female saying, you're not ready.
Her name was
Mariah Carey.
Minaj ain't gonna forget about that
shit.
You ain't got
no opinion anyway.
Okay.
All right. Well, thank you,
Mimi. Appreciate that.
I'm going to definitely do my own research.
So thank you for sharing that.
I know Nikki Minard.
And by the way, Cardi B
is from Puerto Rico.
She can't vote anyway. She's just a
U.S. citizen.
All right. Awesome, Mimi. Appreciate that. vote anyway. She's just a U.S. citizen. Alright, awesome, Mimi. Appreciate
that. Alright, we're gonna go to...
Yeah, y'all can't vote any motherfucking
way. So, yo, opinion don't
matter. Yo, we're gonna go
to Danny and then
anybody else who got final thoughts.
And then, yeah, you know,
probably close out with Melody and her song.
Go ahead, Danny.
Oh, by the way, Nikki is so on rock nation.
Nikki Minaj thinks she should be making more money than Beyonce.
Mimi, thank you.
We're going to go to Danny.
Okay.
Go ahead, Danny.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
I just want to say thank you for the space. Go ahead, Danny. Yeah, I appreciate it, Pratt.
I just want to say thank you for the space.
I don't know if it would be okay to close out with a short poem. Don't get hit by a stop sign.
Don't get hit by a stop sign.
Go ahead, Danny.
You said if it was okay to do what?
To close out with a short poem
Oh, yeah, please do go ahead
Cool, I guess that's a little part to it as the the poem that I chose to come definitely pray for her. Um, I
Think it's to be set for that. Mm-hmm
So I titled this one Pray.
Yeah, but how is my voice still shaking?
That's ridiculous.
Okay, yeah, real quick.
I thought I might pray for the forgotten and betrayed.
Pray for the misplaced and afraid.
Humbled a mind with all the thought of time left unalive.
Acknowledged the divine through an endless world of words.
I thought I'd pray for the lead astray, shuttered at chained iron gates.
I thought I'd pray on knees made of defeat, screaming into a void of the besieged by grief.
I thought I'd pray beneath a maze of stars, crowding the eyes, stunned in awe.
By far the essence of it all, an eternal love awaiting at the door of a damaged heart.
Forever reaching, forever forgiving, forever dreaming.
I thought I'd pray.
Yeah, thank you for the space.
That's it for me.
The next time.
Thank you, Danny.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for sharing that and your previous poem as well.
You know you're more than welcome. Any space that I host or any other people here who host spaces, man, feel free to come through and interact with us.
Yeah, Bridget, TK, Bright Lord, any final thoughts before we go to Mela?
Big loves.
I always love when I get to catch you guys' face.
I love it when you all collab together.
And thank you to everyone.
It's been a really nice one to sit in.
And yeah, we only had one little hiccup.
So I think it's been really good.
Maybe two hiccups.
But you guys did amazing.
And it has been fun.
Just sending love to all the fam.
And Dogma, I miss you.
So I hope your ears are perked up.
Thank you, Bridget. Yeah. You know, I hope, you know, still for the playback, people will enjoy it and will enjoy all these wonderful shares that we shared today. I definitely know I'm going to
have to catch the playback. You know, I think navigating all those situations kind of got me
off track and I was already off track to begin with.
I already told people in the beginning of this space.
But I think we're able to pull through, man.
So, you know, shout out to Mela.
Shout out to AJ, too.
He was on honorary co-host duties reflecting for us.
And, yeah, everybody that's been here supporting this space.
But, yeah, TK, Bright Lord, you guys got any final thoughts?
I just wanted to say.
That's so funny.
You both speak at the same time and you both go silent at the same time honoring each other. I feel that. Bright Lord, go ahead and then we'll go to TK.
I appreciate you taking the time to let me speak and I appreciate listening to everybody
and all the things they had to say and melo b's singing of
course um you guys have a great rest of your night thank you bright load thank you for being here man
tk what's up oh i just wanted to say thank you for this space
prayers and it's great to see you josh good to see you mella and great to see
everyone in this space thank you thank you
yeah likewise man thank you tk and for those of you guys who are not familiar
with josh and dr christ, definitely tap into their spaces.
They do the What Is Autism series.
You know, I think it's usually bi-weekly, but definitely be on the lookout for that, man.
They go into different, you know, angles of approach with that topic in itself.
So I know TK, you know, he'd be pulling up there as well and chiming in as well.
So shout out to everybody, man, in the room as
well. Oh, I see Dogma's coming up. Maybe Dogma wants to say something to Bridget. Hold on. I got
you. Dogma, welcome. Mic check one, two. Hi. I was just trying to decide if I would have enough courage to read an ancient poem that I just found in my phone.
It's not long.
So it's up to you.
I guess that would be called final thought.
I'm not trying to outdo anybody.
So it's up to you.
You're in charge.
No, you're more than welcome.
Go ahead.
Okay. I didn't even know when I wrote this, but I found it in my phone.
Where will it carry you, this endless searching for answers?
The latest sage has not stopped the battle for peace within you.
You are running headstrong into the future, pulling along your past at the high
speed of light. What if the secret is in this? The particular aroma of frying onions, the gentle curve of your stirring arm. What if the secret is in this,
a cat's rough tongue scraping your skin, cleaning fur set aside to remind you to set aside your mind?
to set aside your mind?
What if the secret is nowhere at all,
hidden in plain silent sight,
laughing between breaths and breathing between laughter?
It's all been said, it's all been done.
Don't fret about the path, just dance. Your heart already knows the way home.
Thanks. That was beautiful. I love that. The message behind that is really profound.
Yeah, when I write stuff like that, I usually feel like I'm just channeling, It's really profound.
Yeah, when I write stuff like that, I usually feel like I'm just channeling.
At least it's not coming from my brain, that's for sure.
But it's true in a way. We're all here walking on our individual paths, which sometimes have potholes and sometimes have, you know, great viewpoints.
And all we can do is encourage each other on our own paths.
I can't take yours. You can't take mine.
But I can certainly say, hey, keep going.
Don't give up.
We're all heading to the same door, but let's have some
fun on the way. Yep, exactly. It can actually be that simple.
Well, if we stop trying to make it complicated, then it gets a lot simpler.
Yeah, exactly. But there's a whole, you. But there's a whole industry, I mean, there's whole industries made up
trying to convince us that it's complicated and that we need this teacher
or we need that product or we need to look like this person
or we need to sound like that person.
And that's all just leading us away from what we're really looking for, which is inside, which is often the last place we even look.
After we've looked outside and we keep thinking, wait a minute, I can't find it.
I can't find it.
We are looking in the wrong place.
Look inside.
Anyway, I have no idea what brought all this on.
No, thank you, Dogma.
And, you know, I liked what you said about, you know, encouraging each other, especially on our individual paths.
I think, yeah, that's what it's about, man.
And I want to be that type of person.
I want to be able to encourage people, however that looks like, let alone whatever their individual paths look like.
And vice versa, I want to be able to I'm learning to
receive and accept that for myself when it comes to others you know I've gotten like you know that
kick in the butt by people before like dude you need to learn how to accept more so I know there's
definitely value in that but like yeah like just encouraging other people man you know it really
is important you know there's so much that people think about and worry about. And I think just getting that nudge of encouragement
can go a long way for people. So I just wanted to highlight that as part of your shared dogma.
And thank you for coming up and sharing that poem. Mela, I know you're probably tired.
If you want to sing and then I'll wrap us up with a poem, you know.
Cool.
Yeah.
Yep.
Sounds good to me.
Yeah, you're right.
I am getting tired.
So don't mind my late, late night voice.
Just going to do one song here.
But it's been a really cool space, as always, with Prez.
We had Z for a little bit, we had AJ,
and just a lot of really wonderful people came through,
so thanks for hanging out.
I'm trying to think, oh, you know what, I'll do,
I feel like this is a good bedtime song.
um it's called cataclysmic and it was written with 10 or maybe it was 12 random words that
were just given to me um it was a bit of a writing exercise that I did. So, yeah, I got Dakota to give me ten, I think it was ten, random words.
And, of course, he was like pumpernickel, cataclysmic, calendar, guitar, blackbird,
I don't know, he gave me a bunch of random stuff.
And this is what I came up with. There's another day the scrapbooks are left undone Cause I can't bear to see your face
Don't say a word
You took off years ago
Left the pump and nickel out to dry
Since then it's never tasted right But the gin and gingers, now they go down just fine Oh, it's cataclysmic Baby, how you messed up my mind
And I took them down Every memory we stuck to the wall All that's left is my calendar
A day doesn't pass where my heart doesn't hurt
And that new guitar Hasn't and won't be the light of
See the light of day every time I strum a chord
I choked up missing the magic we made
But the gin and gingers
Now they go down just fine It's cataclysmic Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, is leaving me, but yeah, that one's called Cataclysmic. Hope you liked it.
It's been a great space. Thank you all for coming through,
and I can't wait to listen to what you got, Prez.
Thank you, Mella. Appreciate that. All right, just give me like two minutes.
Maybe at least go over it one time, and i'm gonna just perform it real quick and then yeah i'll close out the space y'all can talk amongst
yourselves if you want you know and i'll be like yeah i'm ready cool well yeah just let us know when you're ready. I guess I'll just ramble a little bit.
Yeah, it's been a cool space.
I like the topic title, Consumed Creativity.
How does it impact our state of being?
I think we kind of like, we did exactly what we're talking about in this space.
Like this was a creative thing in itself.
Us just kind of chilling here, talking about our perception of this topic
and kind of just using our creativity to think of how we are consumed by creativity.
How does it affect us?
And I think in turn we are affected by having this conversation by meeting in these spaces and like, just like sharing and learning from each other. I think we're, we're impacted by that. This is one of my favorite ways to engage with social media. I'm not a big fan of the whole social media thing.
not a big fan of the whole social media thing as a musician because it just feels like a whole
I like it but I don't like it there's opportunity but it also feels um a little bit daunting
sometimes and and personal it's like geez I have to share so much of my life all the time
um but yeah this is my favorite way to to do social media because it feels like it's like the closest thing to touching grass in the digital world.
So I appreciate you all for coming through.
Josh, what do you got?
Well, I'll buy some time so Prez can get prepared as well.
You know, what I thought about tonight is I'm old school. I like sitting in one of those
old school lounges. The lights are low, candlelit tables, and a group of people. And then you got
that open stage. It's like an open mic night where people get to come up and, you know, whether it be singing a song, sharing a poem or, you know, doing some performative dance or something like that.
That's what I felt like tonight.
Half the time I was listening to this conversation, I closed my eyes and pretended I was there just on an open mic night where people could be creative in their own perspective and just hanging out.
But Mela, that was that was a beautiful song. Again, I know your voice is tired. It's late.
And we're we're keeping you up. Prez is keeping you up. It's not our fault. Prez is keeping you up.
But no, it was great. Thank you for all of your songs. Again, I told you, I can't wait to, once the conversation is done,
to jump on and, like, totally dox you and, like, figure out who you are
because we just met tonight.
But I'm really excited to see what content you've created.
So I'll land there.
Appreciate you, dude.
Thanks for coming through.
It was really nice to meet you.
And I really enjoyed listening to how you express your creativity too so thank you yeah i don't know i also have something i don't know you know when you drink water and it just
like goes down the wrong way i did that tonight i don't feel i feel like I haven't fully recovered from it you know um yeah anyways Perez what do you got
hi y'all ready
all right this is on the fly y'all this is on the fly I know Josh is gonna be like oh you always
say that and then boom. But this is literally
on the fly, not rehearsed. You know what I mean? I just went over it this one time. But yeah, I just
called it Creativity Consumed. So it's going to be short and I hope y'all enjoyed it. I said
Creativity Consumed. All these lyrics scattered something the masses couldn't assume. These words
gonna be light work. The vibes initiated is what made me resume. With these bars, man, I'm feeling
in tune. Manifestations and vibrations even when I'm feeling recluse. I love my mental, but I just
show up. I don't limit it to an excuse. Because if I read it and prove and improve on how I move,
it won't take much for me to be as enthused. The homeboy told me to be bold. Fire placements all within
me. I don't need to be cold. My destiny foretold. If I ain't the chosen one, I gotta be close.
The calm temperament ain't for posers. It ain't just to shatter my foes. We talked opportunity.
I'ma kick in the door until I'm finally known. So when I express gratitude, it's my characters
reflecting and infused with my attitude. My light exudes. Whatever that's angelic for you to see. A student,
I hope, but I'm still mellow with the bees. We blew up the space, the proportions didn't have
to be cataclysmic. Put part three on your calendar. It's coming soon. And my encouragement to y'all,
continue to be as altruistic and that's my poem man thank you
continue to be as altruistic. And that's my poem, man. Thank you.
i had to do some wordplay man i did a wordplay there towards the end with melo b's name and
you know cataclysmic calendar
that was so cool dude i'm so happy you closed out
yeah that was awesome you are incredible at what you do. So keep doing it.
And don't forget, don't forget that this space itself is a creation.
I love that. Yeah, we all created this, guys. We all came together. We all shared. And yeah,
I'm grateful to be a part of it. So thank you to everybody. And thank you for listening, man.
I hope you all really enjoyed that one. Yeah, straight off the top, man. Well,
not completely off the top, but throughout the space as it was going. I just wrote a little bit here and there. And then I wrote literally most,
maybe the last 60% of it within the last 30 minutes or so.
So I appreciate that.
Go ahead, Josh.
I know you got some thoughts.
No, the only thought is,
is that after you hang up this call i'm calling you so just be
on the watch um and if you need to take your rest as well uh feel free to ignore my call
but uh uh oh man that was fabulous that was fabulous on the fly yes you did it i can't
believe how many lyrics you write and as quick as you write them. And then
you pulled Mela in there and all of that. That was awesome. That was totally spontaneous and
impromptu. And it was great. Yeah, man, just like I said, in the beginning of the space,
it's the environment, you know, know being around you guys the artists and just the overall discussions right in the space it just fueled it so i knew i knew i was gonna write some
stuff and i knew that i was gonna have that itch to perform and even like when i said with my
opening statements like just writing random punch lines based off of that battle rap influence you
know i just feel like yeah i want to be able to perform you know whatever material influence, you know, I just feel like, yeah, I want to be able to perform,
you know, whatever material I can, you know, whether if it's live, offline, or, you know,
on a space. So I appreciate you guys being willing to listen and, you know, enjoying the piece as well. And Josh, yeah, I'm awake, man. It's Friday. So you can definitely have that phone call after
the space, bro. Well, I guess we're going to close the space. Mela, thank you so much for doing this.
I appreciate you. I know you're very, very busy. You're a busy gal. So shout out to you. Shout
out to the homie Dakota, even though I've not met him, but always got to support, got to support,
got to give him a shout out to and your whole team
as well. And, you know, shout out to Z as well. I'll definitely try and tap in with her and see
how she's doing. But yeah, I'm very grateful for the both of y'all supporting. And this is y'all
space. Like I said that before and definitely down for part three, part four, whatever it is, man.
And guys, feel free to DM me if you have any feedback, any thoughts, or any angle of approach you'd want Mel and Z and I to approach this topic.
Feel free to let us know, man.
And yeah, man, we'll definitely put that in consideration for sure.
I definitely want to, you know, put in whatever the people want.
So whatever the people want, I definitely want to honor that as well.
But I also have my own ideas. So whatever comes about, I'm down for it. As long as the people want to
rock out and vibe with us, just like today and the last space. It's down there in the purple
pill, by the way, guys. Check out part one if you haven't already. It was a dope space. And
definitely catch the playback to this one. So with that being said, those are my final thoughts.
Have a great weekend, everyone. Have a great week ahead as well. Have a great Friday. If you're with family,
enjoy spending time with family. I just want to, you know, shout out the people who are still here,
you know, Danny, Josh, Bright Lord, Dogma, TK, Stonk, Israel, Zombie, and Space Cow,
and everybody that's been here in and out and supported the space in their own way.
I appreciate y'all. I don't know when I'll be back, probably next month. We'll see. and Space Cow and everybody that's been here in and out and supported the space in their own way.
I appreciate y'all. I don't know when I'll be back. Probably next month. We'll see.
You know, I definitely have ideas, like I said. But, you know, until next time, you know,
I might just be a speaker or a listener in these spaces. So definitely tap in to Mela's music and Josh's music and follow anybody who you resonate with as well, man. So with that being said,
I'm going to close the space and
I will see y'all next time.
We'll see y'all when I see y'all. Take care.
Bye, guys. Have a good night.
Love you all. Thank you.
