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Poser Richie over here, one of the founders of the Poser Party.
And yeah, our headquarters is in Amsterdam and we're just two days ahead from the Mint on OPC also.
So, for all the projects that have experienced Mint week already, we're in quite a hectic phase right now, but we're stoked that we're here.
And yeah, we're minting Thursday, 9 a.m., we're minting Thursday, 9 a.m. Pacific time exclusively on OPC.
It's become like the music your dad listens to, the music your dad listens to, but I actually had one of my good friends in this space say, hey, the Alpha is Poser Party.
And this is a person I like literally never fade when it comes to me, and this is a person I like literally never fade when it comes to Alpha.
So, why don't you, for me and for everyone in the crowd, just tell us what Poser Party is.
I'm here also with Poser Izzy, the other founder.
He just joined in, so sometimes he will add something.
Maybe you can introduce yourself real quick, Izzy.
Yo, what's up? Poser Izzy here, one of the other founders.
I'll let you keep it off, Richie, and then when you stop talking after about 10 minutes, I'll say something.
Cool. Can't hear you too good, though, bro, so maybe you need to fix something.
It sounds like he's at the bathroom, in the bathroom, at the party.
You know when you're in the party, and you go to the bathroom, and you can still kind of hear the music,
and you're kind of vibing while you're like, take like that kind of focus.
That actually could be the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, so give us the TLDR.
Yes. So, yeah, our project started just for the love of Web3, and also for the love of dance music, obviously.
We have our team and ourselves have quite a big track record in the music industry, especially the dance industry.
And yeah, we really believe that Web3 will have like the biggest impact on the whole creative industry,
and also on the music industry, specifically, since the internet.
And yeah, we really love like the counterculture part of the Web3 space.
And so we searched for something that was specifically designed for the Web3 space,
but still also makes a lot of noise on the Web2 side of things.
Because although we believe that Web3 is the future for the music industry,
the gap between Web2 and the Web3 space is really big, especially on the music side.
And we think that the potential of Web3 technology can be utilized if we have mass adoption.
So that's why we're set up like how we are set up.
What we're going to do is we are like a counter movement which pokes fun on pop culture.
Pop culture, what is dominated right now by like these perfect Instababes and bulky boys who create these unachievable beauty standards,
unachievable wealth goals, and creating this real fake image around themselves online.
So we thought it's time for an experiment.
If real people act fake most of the time,
why not create imaginary people with like the most crazy storylines ever,
which would be in the real world would be like the biggest outcasts out there
and turn them into the biggest superstar DJs possible.
So that's what we're going to do.
We are going to launch three virtual artists,
They are going to be brought to life through music releases,
live and digital performances,
and their social appearance.
really also releasing and making a lot of noise on the Web 2 side of things,
but also on the Web 3 side of things.
let me stop you real quick.
of course I want to get ahead of what some people in the crowd are probably thinking.
And what I'm kind of thinking is like Web 3 music projects don't have a great track record.
Why do you guys feel like you're the ones to get this thing right?
I think the biggest problem with,
with current music NFT projects is that they are already doing what,
how the future should look like.
And that we're not just there yet.
So we are positioned more like a brand play than a music NFT play.
We are building the poster party out and we are really establishing these three virtual artists like personal brands.
And they will do what every mainstream artist also will do and then get eyes on the project and build like the Web 3 side of the project step by step together with our community,
who has a big say in co-directing the careers of the virtual artists,
presenting creative proposals,
thinking along with business proposals or moves that we should make or shouldn't make.
aside from all the utilities that are behind the holding and NFT of us.
What's the actual NFT going to look like?
What's the actual NFT going to look like?
What are we exactly making?
These three characters are in the same collection.
around 2,500 each character in the collection.
Art is done by John F. Melta,
the legendary John F. Melta,
I obviously love the art.
We've been searching for a long time.
I think I checked thousand designers before I finally found John F. Melta.
He did some big things for Adult Swim,
You should really check him out.
it's really colorful and bright.
There's a lot of humor and funny shit and funny surprises in the collection.
the project obviously breeds.
Is it too late to get in the party?
Do I have to be on like a VIP list?
Am I still able to get in or what's going on?
we're closing the list actually right now,
maybe you can tell something about this because this is your space is out to some listeners right now or do something cool.
Let's do it like a keg stand of whitelist spots.
we actually closed the allow list just a second ago.
We might be able to do some last minute tweaks to it before we send it to OpenSea.
if there are people like in the crowd loving what Richie is saying and want to join the party,
jump into Discord and we can see what we can do.
Take a screenshot of this space right now and go,
That sounds fun and manageable and not stressful.
Two days before a minute.
You guys got a great team.
I see NFT boy in the crowd.
I know he's bullish on the project as well.
Not really bullish on him specifically as like an influencer.
but bullish on a poser party.
we're going to reverse the OpenSea curse.
I'm so glad to hear that.
we really wanted to find a way to,
to build the biggest community as possible.
So that's why the supply is relevant of a relatively high.
that's why we want to keep the mint price low and affordable.
some bullish other points,
is that we have an official partnership with Warner music and also with
some big established names in the game.
of the sickest producers.
One of them is a sub groove or multi platinum worked with Steve Aoki,
to organize the biggest motherfucking party in the year.
probably want to just keep that one in your back pocket.
He's kind of known as a bear signal,
but from a music perspective,
he's also worked with cashmere and yeah,
let's do music NFTs the right way.
Let's party and don't be a poser.
If you guys want more information on that upcoming drop this Thursday,
thanks for coming to hang out guys.
thanks a lot for having us.
for all the people who knows,
how the last days before mind are,
till the wheels of fall off.
Shout out to the other projects and,
We're going to move on to another upcoming project that I'm just insanely,
I made a YouTube video about them two weeks ago.
They reached out to me afterwards.
can we please do a Twitter space?
Steven D gen civilization.
it's already got a great community.
Thank you for that video.
really fun to see on the timeline and,
kind of to find the channel.
so you guys are also the team behind alpha dog.
If you guys don't know what alpha dog is,
Correct me if I'm wrong anywhere,
but a hundred passes minted two years ago.
And you guys have done one year ago.
Collaborations with tempers.
You've done collaborations with OSF,
pretty much anyone who is a huge one of one artist.
You guys were an art access pass for a hundred members.
Now you guys are coming out.
which is your PFP project,
we minted our two year pass a year ago.
So we're halfway through the first two years.
when we first created alpha dog,
we kind of saw a spot in the market there,
where there's a lot of people asking us,
and trying to like figure out how to find NFT artists and how to,
we kind of created alpha dog so that we could use our network and
an incredible list of artists.
So our first year was absolutely incredible.
So that was the final drop of the year and,
our first drop of year two.
we're just started starting off with a bang.
so now we're moving on and I'm moving on.
we're adding a D gen civilization.
So as you can imagine with a hundred dog tags with alpha dog,
it's a small community and you really don't know what it's like to be part of it unless you are part of it.
And so we really wanted to have a lower cost to entry and a collection of a lot of fun to kind of expand on like the frog culture aspect of the NFT community and bring in more people and, but also bring in our curation and the, the, our, our main strengths that we've kind of had, we've, that we've developed with alpha dog and bring it to more people in a, in a, like a different way as we expand the community.
How did you guys get such great artists to collab with?
I see that one of the main tent poles of D gen civilization is,
some raffles and maybe being able to get access to,
to some one of one art or some art.
How is that going to work?
How do you guys land these,
he's probably one of the hottest,
one of one artists right now.
How are we going to be getting access to these types of art?
through D gen civilization PFPs.
curation was through artists that we had collected and we had gotten to know.
And to be completely honest,
the same way you and I met,
kind of reaching out once we kind of had our platform and like,
everything really fell into place.
And a lot of artists were really excited to kind of be part of what we were
the main focus of D gen civilization is every day that you hold your D gen,
no matter how many you have,
it's tied to your wallet.
It's a non-transferable token,
and you'll be able to like accrue your lifetime XP.
you'll always have your lifetime.
So if you're a longer holder,
there will be benefits down the road for the amount you've accrued over time,
but you'll be able to redeem your,
kind of in the initial format will be to enter into raffles for NFT art that we're
curating kind of alongside our year to pass for alpha dog.
we have a lot of artists that we've been chatting with and we're kind of excited to,
to kind of begin the first few drops of DGEN civilization.
let's say 30 days worth of,
of XP and there's a piece of art that's coming out that you really,
one XP would be one raffle,
And then you could use all of your XP you've,
to kind of give yourself a better chance to,
to end up with that piece.
we're trying to find a way to make sure that whether you have one DGEN and you
or you have a hundred of them and you've held them for two months,
then everybody has a chance at incredible art that we're going to be
curating and having a lot of fun with,
and kind of a lot more down the road as well.
bring together the PFP community and the art collectors in,
the on ramp for DGENs to DGENs,
let's talk about the art a little bit.
Cause I also think that's another reason to be bullish on a project.
If you guys click on the DGEN civilization account,
how would you describe it?
So am I right for describing it that way?
we can't describe it that way without there being DMCA related issues as to be
the Pepe culture in NFTs is,
is prominent to say the least.
And we wanted to find a way to bring out as much of that as we could into a
collection without it obviously being Pepe because it can't be.
and so we wanted to make sure that we had,
we could bring in everything that we,
we've seen in the NFT culture,
in a way that kind of like,
like everyone who's going to be collecting.
how does the common folk get involved in DGEN civilization?
give us the alpha before the alpha.
so the white list is at 11 AM Eastern time.
we're really coming up on it.
we're really leaning into the meme numbers,
we didn't obviously didn't want to do a 10 K.
we've been kind of working with a lot of different groups,
that we've gotten to know have been doing raffles for whitelist spots.
about doing some spots as well,
which we can kind of chat about later.
so the Mimprice is 0.05 for whitelist and,
every whitelist has two mints.
We can kind of all believe in the,
the rule of twos for buying NFTs,
and then you can sell one,
to cover your costs and ride one for,
And you'll be kind of accruing your,
your XP from the minute that you mint and,
and your DJM is in your wallet.
Have you guys leaked any alpha on like potential artists that will be doing,
will be doing drops that will be raffled off for DJM civilization or am I,
so we have not specifically talked about artists that will be doing drops.
one of ones in the collection from some very prominent artists.
There's a ton of artists that are,
there's 10 artists that are doing one of ones in the collection that we've been
so that's kind of a good,
some of them are alpha dog artists,
and it's a kind of a good taste at what,
what you're going to expect from the drops as we're moving forward.
we're keeping everything,
we haven't talked about the actual drops that are going to be happening,
but we've been having a lot of conversations with artists and,
trying to just plan it all out.
it's going to be a lot of,
a lot of fun figuring out,
and just making sure that everybody can take part and,
and get incredible art in the process.
I've always been impressed by alpha dog.
I think you guys have a great team.
Do you just want to talk a little bit about,
This is Mondog behind the account of DJ and civilization,
but you just want to talk a little bit about yourself.
I know that's hard sometimes,
but talk about you and your team and why you guys feel like you're,
top tier team in web three.
I had it in the NFT space since summer 2021.
And that's kind of when I really discovered art and kind of fell in love
I kind of resonated with the ability to connect with the artists,
understand their work and,
and just like how incredible it is that we have access to the best art in
such a cool time to be in the space.
you're not always going to be able to DM.
it's going to be out of like,
like when there's more people in the space,
it's going to be like a lot less accessible to have these conversations with
artists and get to know them.
we've been in the space about the same amount of time.
we kind of started planning out off the dog as a two year pass.
sometimes we wish we'd done a one,
we'd done one year and kind of kept it more,
kind of like that kind of smaller scale,
we rolled it out as a two year pass and it's actually been incredible.
we minted for two weeks each,
and there hasn't actually been a sale under that,
on secondary in the full year since then,
we've really gotten to know the people in the community and that's been a huge part of it.
when we rolled out year one,
like the whole calendar for year one was displayed when we minted.
we've been communicating with our collectors and a bunch of whom we've been communicating as
we've planned out the gen civilization,
to make sure that it's something that they're going to want to collect.
Every alpha dog holder gets five free mints and one list for five more if they want them.
and we wanted to make sure that everything that we're rolling out is exactly what our collectors want.
we've spoken with collectors as we've developed our year two calendar and we're going to be doing the same for year three going into that.
we really were the first like art curation pass.
I know there's a lot of them now.
we've been fine tuning it,
I think most of them are much shorter timeframes,
we've been really focused on,
on setting a long-term goal and just delivering exactly what we say we're going to.
We're not going to promise you.
A million things that we're going to deliver half on.
We're going to tell you exactly what we're going to do and we're going to do it.
we started doing things and how we're going to keep doing things.
You said you're not going to promise a million.
Can you promise me a million dollars?
you mentioned five free mints for,
where sometimes people would be like,
that means they're going to dump on our heads.
You've shown the community has shown that they're loyal and they believe in you.
And that's why I think D gen civilization,
this is not a paid shill or anything like that's not how you guys roll.
I genuinely feel like this is a project that people are going to see on open C on blur,
whatever they use in a couple of weeks and be like,
why didn't I know about that?
It's right there in front of us.
So thanks for coming on today and really appreciate you for 20,
We're going to be able to,
to roll up a little bit and mint.
What's the mint price for what?
but with the interesting demand so far,
we're not sure we're going to make it to public,
which is really exciting.
it's like in this market,
it's terrifying to do anything.
we're pushing forward and we're,
we're really excited about the response so far.
Thanks again for coming on Mondog and,
you and I talked about doing some spots and I,
I guess one thing I figured might as well mention if anyone is
in whitelist and hasn't had the opportunity or entered any of the
I chatted with the birds.
he's going to be looking through comments if anyone is interested.
just like leave a comment with a frog emoji in your wallet and we'll,
we'll go through and grab some to add to our,
Thank you again for having me.
If you guys don't already know,
we'd love pretty bullish on front.
We got link Marine toads on the stage as well.
Get pretty toady with it.
We'll talk to them a little bit later right now.
We're going to move on to a project that just dropped recently.
You guys all know the name.
If you haven't seen the art,
go feast yourself on some of the best art I've seen of 2023.
I know there's a couple of community members in the crowd for iron Poggy.
If you guys want to come up and powwow a little bit request on up,
because you guys definitely showed out,
just got to say big fan of,
what's the reception like,
you feel like the community is really excited with these revealed NFTs?
the reception to the art has been,
anything I could have dreamed,
the best animated collection.
the most amount of traits,
that anyone has ever seen.
And I feel like the way that,
I succeeded in that respect.
I wanted every piece to feel like a one of one,
and I think you definitely achieve like very unique traits.
it's quite the sight to see you guys definitely go check out the Ironpaw gang Twitter account.
if you just want to do your eyes a favor,
how long did this project take you?
How long did this all take?
it doesn't seem like something that was cooked up over the last couple of months.
about a year in the making.
for those of you who don't know right now,
the artist behind the project.
I started my web three career on Solana,
and for over the course of two years,
became one of the highest selling one of one artists,
on Solana and wanted to make my East day,
with an animated collection that really just,
just like up the bar in terms of,
animation is much stronger with sound.
sound effects for every single trait.
So every single Mac and driver comes with their own unique soundscape,
which is something I don't think I've seen done before.
but I don't think I've seen,
generative sound effects.
So I really just wanted to up the bar,
I think it's the work sort of speaks for itself in that regard.
are obviously a very visual medium.
I don't know that we've put any,
the auditory element of it.
how much have we left on the table by not having,
to these PFP projects or just to,
I really wanted this project to be,
an art collectible with a PFP element,
And gamification and story elements too.
I want the owners of this to like,
if they have a token frame to put it on their token frame or put it on their TV and put the sound up and have it be an immersive experience.
But if you can compliment that with,
it just makes the whole thing much,
I'd like to see more of it.
Cinematic is how I would describe it too.
I feel like each one of your pieces tells a specific story.
and the musical element to it only enhances that.
I'm going to ask you a really tough question right now.
And I got to take a deep breath for this one.
I'm going to ask you like,
what's your favorite child?
And that's always like a tough question for a parent to ask,
but do you have any traits,
any specific loops that I'm not even talking about,
I'm just ones that like stick in your head that you're like,
I really like how that came out.
I have some favorites that I had before mint,
but the way that certain people have like,
have just been vibing with certain traits or like coming up with like,
we should make a Dow about this.
I don't know if you've seen the hamster wheel legs.
people were talking about making a hamster Dow.
I thought that was like such an interesting way to build on the humor of
I don't know how much people are going to like this,
but to see that sort of resonate with people,
that's become one of my new favorites.
I'm pretty partial to the fire ones.
the fire purebred PFP for a while before mint.
I like the humorous ones.
And then sometimes I like the serious ones.
I feel you on the hamburger grill.
There's like a French fry one.
I saw the other day that I was just like,
we got a couple of people on the stage right now.
I know he's heavy in the community for iron paw gang,
Wanted to ask you real quick.
from the community being inside the community?
Adam talk a little bit about,
that have started to permeate.
what are you kind of seeing from,
I'll start off with that one.
I need to change my PFP to an iron paw sitting up here.
I'm really recognizable as quarter milk,
but I'm looking down at all the other PFPs and just as amazing at the
So I think today might be the day I have to change it.
but I think community has been amazing.
Adam has created something that is perfect for token frame.
it is something that's not just a work of art is so much that went into a
And the fact that he has more factions and it's lore and,
he just kind of quickly dropped,
that it could become a game or it can be so much more.
Like the thought that it went into,
this isn't just something that happened overnight.
He's built this for over a year.
And I think people are really excited about it.
We just have to continue to get the word out.
everybody that just keeps supporting.
We got Vincent on the stage as well.
I know you're somebody who,
why do you love collecting this art?
Cool times for having me up in a quarter milk.
I'm glad to be on the stage with you.
I just want to share my two cents because,
we've been covering NFT collections for,
now even Polygon over the past,
over those past two years.
And it's really hard to find an exciting project that you,
I think what's really standing out with this collection,
that there's a reason why I'm acutelying is because,
I've always been a big fan of voxel monkeys for so long.
And it's been really hard for me to get an entry price because,
you're seeing floor prices of multi hundreds to even multi thousands of
which converted into us dollars is quite a bit of money.
I was trying to score a whitelist for this,
iron Paul gang for so long.
And I'm glad that Adam had taken his time to curate this artwork for so
because you can tell in every single trait that he has that you can tell
but also the nostalgic memorabilia within those traits.
And I think that really touches a note on people who grow from all ages
I think from like 24 to even 45,
depending on what year you were born.
So most of these traits I'm looking at,
I can imagine that the IP rights for these,
it could attract big name brands,
there's some talk around maybe possibly future down the road that there
this is the first time as a grown ass 37 year old man where I'm like,
these collectible figurines,
if that were to happen in the future,
it would be majorly bullish on top of having an NFT where you have those
And so when I look at the community,
the community is super strong.
The PFP artwork is actually quite amazing.
I'm seeing all the PFPs right now with iron paw gang in the chat,
but also how supportive they are with each other.
just me talking with quarter milk,
via online through these,
posts just makes me feel like I'm really connecting with somebody.
And that's something you cannot price in.
that this collection is going to be bullish in the short to immediate
this collection at its lowest price point should be at least one
0.26 at the time of this recording.
I've only seen people accumulate with only 8% lists on the floor.
just want to give a shout out to you guys.
Thank you so much for having me up.
I appreciate your perspective there,
I just shot you a follow,
it's always cool to see collectors with,
with conviction and hear their POV.
Adam question for you about iron paw gang.
invisible friends did a Kith collab.
Where do you see iron paw gang IP being used?
Other than just the images and the,
the MOVs that we're looking at.
do you foresee any collaborations,
anything down the line for iron paw gang?
everything is on the table,
I would love to do a game or I would love to do a,
I would love to do a toy.
I think all of those possibilities are one of the reasons why I think the IP is,
has strength and has potential.
the holders IP licenses that they own the license for the NFT that they,
short form animated content.
I think it has the potential to scale to all of that stuff.
I'm optimistic and ambitious about where this can go.
And all of that stuff is certainly on the table.
I think the thing that gets me at like the,
the physicals would be something really cool.
Imagine waking up Christmas morning,
you're a 10 year old child and you see a bulldozer with,
French fries sticking out of it.
it would really warm the heart.
How long have you been last,
How long have you been animating?
it's been a long time for those of you who know me or know my story.
I work professionally in the web to space.
I've been doing it for like 12 to 13 years now working for media and tech
I would say my two biggest claim to fames are I animated the A24 film logo
that you see before all of the really iconic and,
and culturally important TV shows and films.
And I also worked on the,
the Google rebrand dynamic identity that they rolled out,
I went to art school with DK.
the cloth that I'm cut from.
I tried to apply those 12,
13 years of experience to this collection and really,
something that I felt I could feel proud of,
I'm in my room right now.
I got like one of those old turbo mans from jingle all the way.
iron paw gang just gives me like that sense of nostalgia to,
there's something that I'm nostalgic for that,
isn't really even nostalgic.
And I'm really excited to see the future.
I think there's so many possibilities.
I really appreciate you joining the stage today.
Shout out to everybody in the crowd.
Appreciate everyone that came up quarter of milk.
and we had some other people,
Appreciate everyone in the crowd joining from IPG.
we're just doing big guests today,
280 people listening right now,
shout out to all of you guys.
Make sure to give me a follow.
If you like this type of content,
give all these speakers a follow.
there's a lot of great people on the stage right now.
but maybe none greater than saved souls.
This is arguably the hottest project out right now.
but we're going to talk a little bit about what they're doing.
I put out a tweet earlier today and I said,
there's a play out there that not that many people are talking about,
And mostly everyone responded and said,
Why do you think people are getting so excited about save souls right now?
You guys feel like a train that can't be stopped.
I appreciate those kind words.
that's all the community just absolutely crushing it.
in regards to why that's the case,
I think it's just because we took a different approach to what the,
current meta seems to be right.
We reverse engineered this.
So we really tried to start with the end in mind.
We watched the 2021 bull market and we saw how amazing and how exciting and
and it was such a beautiful time to be in NFTs.
And then we saw what 2022 came with and we just saw how everyone became so
And what we realized is that during 2021 communities is what made things
And at a certain point that started to fall off to where the community
People were worried about silly shit.
So what we went and did is we looked at all the mistakes of all the past and
we looked at all the successes and we just try to take the best of every one of
And we thought if we could make the ideal project that we would love to be in,
And what we came up with was save souls.
what was this project just came seemingly out of nowhere?
how did this all come to be?
Cause it just came on my radar.
shout out to slinger who's a speaker right now.
I saw him tweeting about it very early on,
but tell us a little bit about the thought process of,
there was a lot of over promise and under delivering that would happen in,
And then along with that,
there's the whole meme about,
can the devs do something when there's an announcement coming.
what we learned when we figured out is that consistency is what people want.
People don't need big bombshell announcements once every three months.
If they have consistency,
So we wanted to do this kind of as a sleeper project.
And what I mean by that is we just did the traditional collab building process with all of our collab partners.
We decided to airdrop them a safe soul rather than doing a whitelist.
One part of the 2021 bull run that we didn't like was the whitelist.
This grind sitting in your chair all day with the fake interactions on discord.
how can we get that same energy without that grind feeling?
So we did a completely public mint and then we airdropped all of our collab partners and the project did pretty well.
We sold out within the first 25 minutes and most people just thought it was a PFP project.
We didn't promise anything.
We didn't say that we were delivering anything.
this is strictly art and that's it.
And then as soon as the reveal came,
we dropped the bombshell of,
the only way that you can reveal your PFPs and your NFTs is you have to build a community.
And the only way you can build a community is by helping others out.
And so we flipped the switch in terms of instead of building a project and then having a community come,
the project could only work if the community was being built in the process.
And in the process of this happening,
it built some of the most beautiful relationships,
and you have a bunch of people from a bunch of different communities that are all in one focus,
central hub with the same mindset now of we're here to help and serve others.
And we're here saving the space in a sense of we're bringing the bull run back.
We're bringing the hype back.
We're bringing the positivity,
the good vibes and just the character growth to come with it.
And I think that's evidence through the life preservers,
like not only like the bull run,
but it's just like a lot of people were getting disenchanted and getting bored and kind of burnt from different projects.
And I feel like that life preservers,
you guys literally throwing out something that's like,
we're here to do something fun and kind of pulling people back into the space that we all love.
you guys tweeted out something.
I want to ask you about it.
So here comes the other part,
we realized that projects would be really hyped.
They would mint out and then they would fall flat on their face right away because everything,
everything was overpromised and was not able to be delivered.
Everyone would collect the mint funds and then they would have no ideas and no execution.
And it would take three to five months for something to happen.
And when you're spending your money on an investment and NFT,
it's all speculative risk,
but you want to be able to see something tangible right away.
Buyer's remorse is one of the quickest things that happens as soon as you mint the project.
So how can you from A to B,
A to C and so on and so forth,
create something that keeps a whole community engaged and their attention focused from the moment they get in to the moment that they potentially leave.
And so phase one was the whole innovation process of you have to help somebody reveal their NFTs because you can't reveal your NFTs themselves.
And people thought that that was the end and then that was it.
the problem is we have phase two,
phase three and phase four already mapped out.
Phase two is already done,
even though we're just starting it today or rather yesterday.
And so phase two becomes the gamification of finding the treasure.
What is the treasure of web three?
that's what everyone's currently on the,
on the quest for right now.
And so if you hop in the discord,
what you'll find is that on,
it feels like the bull run 2021 because you have people that are searching for clues on this gamified quest.
Everything we're doing has been an Easter egg hunt from how we minted the art we created,
how we structure discords,
how we structure announcements,
how we structure graphics.
Everything is a massive Easter egg hunt.
you have people talking about what the hell's going on.
And you have a whole collective community that the utility is the community.
I'm saying everyone is always working together.
No one's worrying about dumb shit because they're trying to get to this treasure chest of what web three is.
I just got to say something.
you're doing more things than just bring the bull bull run back.
I think you actually might be bringing the bull run back because,
it's not definitely not me.
We've got 330 people in here right now.
I used to only get those numbers like a year and a half ago.
I just think the community engagement is so important.
And why do projects succeed?
It's because that type of community engagement.
it will all work out because people are interested in it.
I'm actually on a marketplace right now and I'm,
I just found like a one with 3d glasses right on the floor.
I don't really understand why that's.
all the traits are great.
we have a few different inside jokes going on right now.
one of the inside jokes is there's no floor safe souls.
There's just rares and ultra rares because everything looks so good that it
doesn't matter if it's rarity 9,999 or rarity one,
And it was built that way because we want people to be proud of the PFPs that
And it was everything down to the minute detail was built just for this
And I know he's heavy on the creeps movement.
I heard you were trying to maybe grab one of these souls.
And I just thought I would recommend grabbing a snork,
this guy's a trade shiller.
my brother slinger had to come in here and pie real quick.
let me ask slinger a question real quick.
you literally define alpha before the off.
I saw you tweeting about save souls very,
You've been ahead of the game when it comes to a lot of different communities in
what made you convinced that save souls was something?
my baby is in the talking phase where,
she just rambles like I do.
So anyone who knows me really well can just imagine how much this baby talks.
So I pay attention to things like brand,
like just like how consistent is it across the board?
they just kind of like instantly when I saw the website,
And it just like kind of appeared like a really overlooked opportunity.
Everyone's been talking about certain projects in the past two weeks.
a buddy told me that he was going to get some,
And then we all kind of just started buying more and more.
why is this dipped so much?
The unique holder count was really high.
this is looking really good.
And so it started to go down,
I guess like mentors and,
We're looking for the quick profits,
even just like the inception of it just defines everything that's happened in
Like people are just looking for that quick exit.
Like they just want to recoup their gas money,
whether it be like the mentors or the botters or trying to like,
reset their initial like,
So I just like observed everything and I was just like,
I'm going to go in as hard as I can on this because you know me,
I get on ground level and just try to find that like one project that I can stick
Like last time it was genuine undead.
I was deep in there for like six,
just enjoy the hell out of it.
Like I love one collection at a time and to really fully enjoy it.
this is like the next big thing.
everything is like kind of ticking boxes and the discord wasn't open.
Like I'm just buying these and I have no idea what's coming.
And it's just like the discord opens up.
We're trying to save each other's NITs to reveal them.
Like where are the floors?
It's not maybe everyone's style.
I think it is everyone's style.
I just pinned the one that I just bought.
Like I used to have a cool cat with an orange beanie and this one has an
orange beanie and that's got the 3d glasses.
Like it just feels like cool times.
you're just talking about your child.
Like when your child liked this art,
like it's very accessible.
what's so gigabrain about them is that we know how many projects that
feel to kids that like that dads and moms and families will buy.
profanity filter in the discord.
shouldn't we be able to post what we want?
I think you could post pictures,
but like the entire engagement at the start was people talking to each
we could see what everyone was saying and,
and talk like everyone knows each other.
It's been less than a week.
I have 4,000 messages in there.
everyone's got a lot of messages there.
I'm a hop in just cause like it's rare to see movements like this.
And I wanted to ask save souls himself.
we had surf screen come up and talk about a specific trait.
but I don't even fucking know.
what have you seen from specific trait communities?
That's kind of impressed you is,
have there been certain traits that you feel like have kind of,
understood how to maybe band together to solve the,
what have you seen from some of the sub trait communities?
you're going to get me in trouble here.
you'll get me in trouble.
it's definitely the crown.
If you drop a crown on the floor,
Like it will get scooped up so quick.
So I would say the crown gang followed by the tattoo gang,
would probably be like my top two in terms of just amount of strength of what
the black backgrounds as well are really,
So you can't really go wrong.
This should have been my first question because now,
I just bought another one.
There's a lot of really cool traits,
This almost reminds me of like,
like some OG Nickelodeon,
It gives me like going back to that word nostalgia again.
there's a trait on here called just sacred souls.
what does that exactly mean?
those are just the one of ones.
I might need that for something's fishy.
that's number one rarity.
I'm going to throw a wee bit on it right now.
Who the fuck sold that for 0.5?
Gomba fucking came up on it.
what's impressed you with the most safe souls about,
it's not every day a project just,
just becomes like a movement.
it's the amount of people that are taking accountability and taking it upon
themselves to go be their own type of leader.
So typically from what we've seen,
you delegate certain tasks and responsibilities,
And from probably day one,
there's just been select people that will just go do stuff by themselves.
They'll go organize raids.
I don't know if my girl Nancy's on here.
She's such a sweetheart right now.
maybe four maxed out Twitter groups of just raids.
And Nancy just did this out of the goodness of her heart.
No one asked her to do it.
of course we're taking care of her for it,
that's what I love is that people are just selflessly going out of their way to help push
something that they believe is a good movement.
And because they're doing so they're actually being rewarded for it,
And it's not something that they knew about.
That's not something that they asked for,
it really resonates with just the heart of the mission that we're really,
we're here to save web three.
Like we're in such a beautiful space that everyone can win.
if we can get back to the idea of everyone can win and we're not each other's competition,
we're competing with each other,
This thing will blow up so much quicker.
And I don't mean save souls.
moving liquidity from web two to web three,
like that's the overall mission.
So if we can set the presence of that's what,
we want to go make happen and we'll go be the change and we can start some
then that's kind of where it is.
And people are just kind of taking that mission to heart.
So I think that in itself has been the most impressive part of the community to me.
I've always pride myself on having the alpha before the alpha,
I'm not going to say I was the earliest to save souls.
I'm just figuring things out right now.
I see a tweet from a couple of days ago where it's,
one of those looking glasses,
like binocular looking glass for like a pirate ship.
And it says new achievements await.
Are we unlocking new items?
So everything that we're doing is gamification,
we set up custom profiles and portfolios for people.
you got your own profile page right away.
we didn't mention any utility.
We just brought it right away and we didn't,
we put it in printer faces and then people understood what was started to
And so when you hop onto save souls dot art slash profile,
you enter in your wallet address,
which you can do right now,
and you'll see your own custom profile for cool times.
You'll see the NFTs that you own,
and then you'll see a list of achievements.
And so as we go through these phases,
we were helping to save souls and helping to reveal the PFPs.
So there were three different life or three different lifeguard achievements
Right now we're going through a different phase.
So the whole idea is we keep people engaged through achievements and with
achievements come rewards.
And so it's ultimately it's,
we're stringing people along through engagement and gamification.
So everyone is rewarded for activity and it feels good.
It's like when you're playing Xbox and PlayStation and that,
that achievement pops up when you're in the middle of,
you usually hit the home screen button just to see what the achievement is.
that's what's happening right now is whenever someone's doing something and
they're getting a new achievement,
people are refreshing their profile page,
four times a day just to see what achievements are popping up.
This was a free fucking mint.
And then the additionals were 0.009.
cause it sums it up a little bit better.
I'm going to try and keep it to like two sentences.
so there's the reveal process.
gasless transactions for everything.
I don't know who these guys are.
This isn't their first rodeo.
I either are trolling us with these Easter eggs and hints,
but like they just know the space.
They know what they're doing.
So whatever is going to come,
I'm like not going to miss it.
I've never faded you slinger.
Did you want to say something to save souls?
I was just saying he gets it.
somebody just tweeted at me.
they showed me some of their achievements.
They got the narwhal award,
and I see a question mark blue whale award.
what happens when I get all the awards?
You over here doing great things for this.
if we set up the treasure hunt of the year,
I can't say anything about anything,
the achievements obviously play a role.
Obviously you want to make sure you can get as many as possible.
There may be a point where if you don't have a certain amount of achievements,
you may not be able to participate in certain things.
let's go get some shit done.
let's make sure that we're on top of it.
we build as a community and we go get all the achievements we can.
I'm ready to run through a fucking brick wall.
please don't shill the tubes or the snorkel or whatever the fuck you say.
I did reply to your pinned with,
but that's not what I was going to say.
I joined the community early and I was really excited,
like getting that creeps vibe in the discord,
which really captivated me.
like everything's kind of running to zero and you know,
it's the usual mint out game and everybody's buying to flip and all the rest of
And I get in that discord and everybody's like,
everybody's just having a good time.
Nobody's talking about the floor.
Everybody's talking about the ones that they're seeing and,
what they wanted to pick up next.
and how diverse the community was,
was super impressive to me.
obviously it's nice when you join discord and there's people,
from the web three space,
from a variety of different projects and they're all just in there chilling,
The VC is a late cool times,
probably a little too rowdy for you,
but you might check it out.
what is that supposed to mean?
The snorkels are really fire.
I've been like trying to do this interview while also like,
I'm still have my page open to the number one ranked,
that guy might need to come home with me.
If anyone knows gone back,
let me see his wallet here.
tell him if anyone knows him,
tell him that that needs to come home for me.
It just looks really cool.
I gotta finish this space.
I can't just go on a deep,
So save souls is one of those projects that has so many cool traits that he can just
We have memes about that.
That's exactly what it is.
the community is very welcoming.
Somebody just tweeted at me,
some like full size pictures of the,
the PFP that I just bought and the pin tweet up there.
I haven't had anyone do that for me in like a year and a half.
so bull markets back on confirmed by the captain himself,
go give them a follow back.
we can go on a lot longer with you guys.
We've got a couple other guests,
but let's do this again soon.
I'm going to join the discord later.
I don't know what the trait for on the snorkels are,
but I know that I have one or two and I'll just,
I have like two snorkels or something.
I don't know what the floor is on those.
Just grab one floor or two and then I'll just give you one and trade it with me.
Trade me whatever for you.
The cowboy hat on the floor is kind of fire.
I got to listen to Cap though.
I'm kind of hunting for tattoos.
There's a black background.
Go give Slinger a follow,
because he's literally the definition of a before a and follow my guy.
Let's do this again soon.
If anyone likes and retweets the post you,
we'll give away a save soul in 24 hours.
And somebody's going to be getting saved.
Thank you to all the wonderful communities and projects that are on here right now.
I will be giving you all a follow whoever speaking and much love.
Over 300 people in here for save souls,
We're going to go back to an upcoming project here right now,
So if you missed save souls,
if you usually miss projects,
we got some upcoming projects.
We're going to talk to you right now.
We got retro hunters right now.
Glad to be able to jump on here and talk to you one-on-one finally.
And it's great to be up here with a group of,
such monumental projects,
Thanks so much for the opportunity.
aunt T boy the other day,
describe retro hunters as having a team full of chads.
Tell us a little about the team because it seems like it's stacked.
So I'll dive in a little bit about like who we are,
why we're going to be the chads of the gaming space.
So pretty much we're a Web3 oriented gaming company aiming to really breach
into the Web2 space with our competitive edge being,
asset ownership and the benefits that those bring.
what's different about you guys from the other bunch of projects that are
aiming to achieve the same goal besides just obviously the niche in the
And I think the main thing is just like our Web3 native team,
Pretty much everyone from our team is Web3 native,
except for a handful of developers and ultimately understanding the space,
being able to scale in the space and having the people that have successfully
done it in the past to replicate that process at a much higher scale is
ultimately what's going to make us,
much different from our predecessors.
I can't join up from my main account since Twitter won't let me join from a PC,
but I've been in the Web3 space full time for the past three years.
Now I created my first Web3 business around two years ago,
that's been scaling ever since.
It's not my full time thing anymore.
Focusing on retro hunters now,
but that's doing that's done around a million dollars in profit almost since we
And it's been able to generate over eight figures of profits for our members of
I've also done marketing for a few projects,
advisory and helped out a ton within the space,
degened the whole nine yards.
I've been both the flippers.
I've been the bag holders.
I've been the active community members.
some of my bags right now are just like a Zuki's,
everything kind of cover everything used to be a doodle a cool times,
we're down six figures on that one.
I know my strengths as a founder.
So keeping those weaknesses in mind,
we've gone forward and generated the Avengers of a team pre mint pretty much to
go forward and execute at the highest level possible throughout some little
soundbite stats for us in terms of like names,
we've accumulated some of the best advisors in the space.
We have some of the best developers,
we brought in a $10 million evaluation pre seed before even having a company,
having any sort of social,
any sort of social recollection or traction to prove ourselves through.
And the reason we were able to attain that,
I think is obviously through our team.
some names on the stage right now are Mishu Min and Tima founder of DGEN radio and
They really help with a lot of the marketing networking strategy,
alongside of my personal expertise.
But on more of the tech side,
the things that you don't see on a day to day basis,
he was a previous senior engineer at Amazon.
He's been in a solidity developer for the past six years,
started crypto mining in 2017.
he's pretty much the yin to my yang.
I come up with all the cool shit.
top designers from Netflix,
And he's now working full time for us,
Brandon Richard going on from there within the gaming world.
We have a really stacked team there as well.
Ben McKenzie is one of our games specialists and strategists.
He was a previous professional gamer within the smite world.
He has over a quarter million dollars in winnings and also helped them a lot
with their game development strategy and execution.
he was the founder and CEO of Highground,
which is a physical tech wearable company,
kind of a unique niche that he kind of started on his own.
And he recently got acquired by a hundred thieves,
which is probably the biggest gaming organization in the world.
So having access to his network,
his expertise and his knowledge is just highly beneficial.
that's kind of our team that was able to achieve that level of expertise and
respect to be able to go forward without even a product,
10 million pre-seed valuation.
We didn't end up moving forward with it due to the constraints that it
would put on our company,
pretty much turning us all into employees rather than founders.
So rather I've bootstrapped over $400,000,
which has allowed us the runway to be in development for over a year,
create work with our AAA game development studio for a year plus and pretty much
hire and manage a team of 60 plus people to then get us to the point of post-mint in
which we have a series A in our pipeline.
a lot of exciting stuff going on and feel free to ask away in terms of anything that
any questions about our project product post-mint pre-mint.
You just had to bring up the doodles side of it.
You just had to mention why.
I can't go two hours on a Twitter space with someone just now.
you're definitely an OG in this space and we,
you got a couple of your advisors up here on the stage that I'm fans of,
you guys could have done a lot of different things.
You chose to do a gaming project.
in terms of gathering financial gain within the Web3 space,
it hadn't been a very large struggle for me,
how corny that may sound.
my previous business was doing six figures a month in profit trading alone.
I was generating probably around the same.
I kind of had an outlook on life that like,
I want to create something notable and I want the,
the best team and the best access to be able to achieve that.
me and my co-founder are both literally nerds when it comes to gaming.
we realized that Web3 by far had the biggest opportunity within the gaming space.
at the time of us creating the idea for retro hunters in February of 2022,
no one had really been pursuing the route of Web3 activation within gaming as we were aiming to do,
which was asset ownership.
the first movers like you,
the labs who have gone through and battle tested it,
our concepts really were going in the right direction.
it's a long-term game for me in terms of my input and output compared to the monetary gain that we bring in from Mint.
It wouldn't make sense for my time,
but I'm not here for the short term.
I'm here to scale a community,
bring this to light and make this one of the,
the leading gaming companies in the world,
I'm not too sure if you know,
but those have the opportunity of reaching nine,
that's what I'm here for the longterm and utilizing Web3 is the vehicle to achieve.
That is my ultimate goal.
So we got one of the goats in the space TMA on the stage.
I'm not a goat in any way.
but thank you so much for hosting this space.
we haven't chatted in quite a long time.
so glad you hosted this space.
There's so many amazing projects up here.
so many amazing people down here,
moving back to retro hunters,
Like I think people just think of gaming NFTs and they kind of get scared,
but they don't realize there's so much potential within the gaming industry.
And this market is just untapped right now,
Like we're literally waiting for one person to do it.
And I think retro hunters has potential to do that.
Not only does it have the stack team,
but the fact that the game itself,
I'm going to give a little alpha.
I've actually seen the games behind the scenes,
but it's super interesting,
It kind of brings in both web two and web three and it combines it together.
I think there's something there.
There's a lot to the gaming aspect itself.
It's just this raw untapped market that people aren't paying attention to,
but I think it will boom in the near future.
And kind of going off of that a cool time.
So feel free to cut me off.
If you want to add anything else,
financial note that people always mentioned to follow after is fall after the
Most of the times the big people that know what's going on are the big people
that have a lot of money and know what to invest in.
And we've seen constantly throughout this past year,
even during a bear market,
we'll see venture capital firms investing millions and if not hundreds of
millions of dollars into web three gaming companies because they ultimately
So us kind of just taking a different approach,
more of a web three native approach,
Due to the fact of how our team is compromised and,
We're taking a different approach.
We want our community to be those that are early and those that have the
upper hand compared to the industrial,
all of the higher up investors and market makers within the space as both,
if you stay true to your initial community,
you constantly provide what's coming next and keep,
vagueness high while still delivering.
It pretty much creates the ultimate environment for your company to succeed.
it's really a cool battle testing grounds that web three has created.
If your company succeeds in web three,
it's one of the best signs for these venture capital firms.
If you look at something like D God,
they might not be bringing in active revenue from a product,
but they have multi a hundred million dollar valuations.
they see the capabilities of these teams.
And if we're able to succeed in such a highly volatile and highly unpredictable market,
the scale of which that can reach outside of web three,
utilizing our initial community and stuff as a vehicle is just uncharted.
I got a question for you.
one thing that I really take pride in is that we've actually created multiple different gaming.
I covered it in my YouTube video,
which if you guys want a little bit more in depth analysis on retro hunters,
but the website is fucking a one.
All the trailers been a one.
you've built cool mini games just to get involved in the community.
Let me also go ahead and just pin our website up there on the top for people who are interested in checking it out.
But pretty much our official flagship product that we're aiming to scale with is going to be,
it's in the strategy niche and it's an auto battler style game.
So pretty much it's one of the most highly accepted strategy games because it's easy to onboard users.
a world of different strategies and metas and stuff to be born from.
We've seen some of the top grossing mobile games take this approach.
Things like Clash Royale,
all these Supercell native games.
And those are the top contenders in the market.
We're talking games that bring in over a billion dollars of revenue per year and are valued at tens of billions of dollars because it's a gaming style that anyone can learn how to play.
the conversion is super easy.
more of the competitive type of users to really indulge in like the strategy and the different play styles and stuff.
So I also pinned a tweet earlier on of a little sneak peek of our game.
It's also pinned on the top of our feed.
But pretty much that's a little sneak peek of what's actually coming for our game.
We have full gameplay ready to come out in the next very soon time frame.
I don't want to say dates,
And I can't wait to really exceed expectations with what we have coming out.
Are you going with more of an arcade vibe?
Because that's certainly what,
you get from some of the mini games and,
like we're creating pretty much a universe of like a lore storyline and really trying to emphasize that emotional connection within our community and our product,
So just to throw out some stats out there,
our mini games brought in over a hundred thousand plays in the span of two weeks.
you had to do things like follow us on Twitter,
and retweet tweet tweets,
So created a really cool organic way of earning whitelists and competing for whitelists.
but pretty much the approach of like the arcade machine was ultimately to focus the experience,
People value nostalgia so much within the space.
safe souls mentioning previously,
we really want to target those,
those receptors within the brain that let out so much serotonin and enjoyability and creating experiences and giving community members an amazing experience is what we're aiming for.
And arcade games for the mini games was our first approach of achieving that.
So the mini games were arcade games,
but the official game is going to be on your PC.
It's going to be a cartoonized 3D style games utilizing the characters within our lore.
And then we're eventually expanding it out to mobile as a way to bring in no constant revenue,
scale our initial community and really grow the web through space through asset ownership.
give us the TLDR real quick on just,
when is the project coming?
How can people get involved?
I think yesterday in my discord,
but give us just the highlights on,
when this whole thing's happening,
So in terms of the timeline,
we're definitely aiming to move forward by the end of the month.
A lot of the announcements in terms of the mint variables,
mint pricing and stuff is all going to come out fairly soon.
our team is very much within the web three space.
We know how to tread along the thin line of,
and how to make sure that it's competitive enough to not only one target high community members that aren't just there for a quick flip,
but also to kind of subside to the,
to the meta of like making it competitively priced,
So in terms of joining in,
one of the best opportunities was to play those arcade games and compete.
Those competitions are now close.
So the main opportunities now are,
being active in our community,
and we also have an opportunity,
when it comes to the conclusion of our time up here,
I have a really cool thing.
I'll start it up right now.
So if you go to our account,
our discords in our bio through our link tree,
what's a creative little password between retro hunters and cool times.
Everyone that's listening in here,
if you're interested in potentially attaining whitelists,
we'll be giving away three spots to those that joined our discord and
literally just drop retro times in the general chat.
I want to see you guys all spam it in there,
make sure it's all nice and active.
And we'll be going through picking three of those different commenters and
active community members to be upgraded to whitelist.
And in terms of other opportunities,
it's mainly just joining in being an active community member,
And we have a large team of solely just discord oriented and community
oriented members that are actively looking out for all those different,
supporting community members within the space.
And we're constantly keeping our community updated with what's going on in
terms of allocation and giving out new opportunities to join our project with
the highest level of conviction.
So head to the discord spam retro times in there,
make them put it on slow mode,
the OG days when it was just the chats would fly like crazy.
go get yourself hooked up.
I'm just going to give my Stephen A.
Smith hot take right now.
Like I'm kind of sick and fucking tired of these gaming projects that it's
it's a bunch of nerds and they're just like,
And then they have no idea how to navigate the testy waters of web three.
I think you guys have the perfect mixture of,
funding and a web three native experience.
So you guys know how to navigate these waters.
You've been through here.
You've got some great advisors.
retro hunters go in the discord right now.
the web three native should be on the forefront and the developers need to be back there doing
doing their job and make sure the product is enjoyable as possible.
So that's the way we we've created our company.
So thank you so much for the opportunity.
It was great being up here and yeah,
feel free to jump to the discord,
I'm active all day and every day.
I might just change my name at retro times.
We've got another dope project on the stage right now.
it's not just enough to have the alpha need the alpha before the alpha.
so we've got link Marine toes.
They're doing something real cool.
they have toad PFPs that just look fucking sick,
which I like link Marine toes.
give us the overview real quick,
because this is a project for chain link lovers.
Do we have any crypto people out there right now?
a core community of link Marines,
but now we're shifting our target audience to,
just NFT D gens in general.
having that core community of link Marines,
is important to us because part of the project is,
supporting chain link build projects,
in terms of getting allocations to projects early,
via launch pad that we're voting,
obviously the NFT D gens are,
there's two different types of D gens and they both are,
awesome in their own respects.
I just want to give a quick shout out to all the projects that were spoke,
Love the art on literally all of them.
Communities look super strong.
So this makes me bullish for,
just NFT projects in general,
moving forward in the bear market.
but I'll just go into like a quick overview.
a community project go by community in general.
I work for the community essentially.
I've been here since 2020.
I've ran my own successful podcast called base space where we brought on 70 plus,
industry leaders ranging from open C to face to blue network,
If you go to base space dial,
you can check out all those people.
I've missed quite a few of those mentioning,
so I'm kind of in charge and helping with the community and,
and content on this side.
but holders will get access to white white list and,
airdrop allocations from future build projects.
that's kind of our goal right now.
In addition to build projects,
we're looking to be a launch pad for other NFT projects.
They're looking to launch their NFT and,
other crypto projects as well.
with a focus on obviously legitimate projects,
We don't want any of the scam projects coming on.
but our longer term goal is to establish ourselves in the chain link ecosystem as
the main supporter of the build projects.
if you're not familiar with chain link build,
it's a new initiative that bill,
the chain link is set out in their economics 2.0 to help fund,
revenue in the projects and reward holders of staked link.
so we are building something called the lily pad,
but that will be our launch pad.
and if you hold more toads,
you'll be able to have bigger allocations to future projects,
which if you're bullish on chain link itself,
then you should be bullish on the chain link build projects.
There's a lot of exciting projects being built,
like a decentralized data warehouse space and time.
blueberry is a decentralized perps protocol where you can leverage,
mine network we had on recently,
there's quite a bit of build projects.
but I'm going on a tangent.
I'm sure you probably have questions.
you're trying to market to,
you got the Pepe kind of inspired PFPs.
I'm pretty sure that was the quote from field of dreams.
what talk a little bit of just,
I know you're not trying to go too heavy on chain link,
but I'm not like a huge crypto guy.
you have a lot of team members who are like former advisors,
former team members on chain link.
why are you bullish on chain link?
I don't really know much about it.
A lot of people actually glaze over what chain link is.
Chain link is a decentralized Oracle network.
is basically a third party device or service that allows real world data to
real world data to come on chain,
securely via smart contracts.
So feeding secure data to our smart contracts without chain link,
we wouldn't have DeFi without chain link.
We wouldn't have dynamic and empties.
So like a lot of these NFT projects that you see are changing their traits
based on a certain set of parameters.
You wouldn't have those NFT projects.
but they would get exploited as we've seen with like flash loan attacks and
it's because the projects weren't using a chain link oracles.
They were using a different,
I don't want to throw any names out there.
I'm not trying to shame other oracles,
but chain link is the industry standard.
so that's why I'm bullish on chain link.
I think it's one of those,
we were talking about earlier projects that are here to stay.
we were talking about NFT projects that are here to stay,
but in terms of DeFi projects,
chain links like the glue to everything.
I feel like is the Amazon of crypto.
they're the biggest data protocol in the space right now.
And I see them being here 15 to 20 years from now,
just based off their technology.
talk a little bit about your team.
Cause if you're going to like Marine Toad's Twitter account,
one thing that I've noticed is you guys are constantly tweeting out new team
and there's a lot of impressive people.
Talk a little bit about the team.
who is our co-founder who actually came on bigger space last time,
my name is super high frog.
I'm filling in for Simon.
I work on the community side,
helping with content and advisement of just like the link community in
He has had his hands in a lot of different NFT projects.
a web three advisement and management company,
which I won't docs because I,
I don't think I'm allowed to.
and then we have Chaz from MDMA and Alex from MDMA.
helping with our marketing.
They have some cool branding.
I'm pretty sure I took that at a music festival like five years ago,
if you don't mind bringing Wando up,
he's one of our community generals that,
He's just been helping push the project as well.
some other advisors are chain link build.
Wando gun requests if you'd like to come up with that.
sitting here in the audience.
but David posts is one as well.
we have some other chain link kind of,
employees that have left and,
that are helping advise us as well.
without chain link labs because chain link labs is the,
the company that built the chain link technology without chain link labs
Because they're focused on building,
technology instead of an NFT project.
We're kind of the community ran,
project of sorts to be there.
When are you guys dropping?
but I will say may for the first two weeks of may.
And I actually put above,
we're closing the registration for pre-ment tomorrow,
I believe in opening the discord,
The discord is open tomorrow.
the pre-ment or registration for pre-ment link is above as well.
but we've been super focused on organic growth.
you won't see like 30 plus thousand followers on our account.
we started marketing to two months ago and have grown from 132 followers to
The discord has 500 plus people in it.
which have all been organic.
we believe in slow building,
but also executing on utility.
I'm not going to beat around the bush.
Like I know certain people who are bullish on this project.
one of the reasons why I was like,
let's do this was because look,
people fucking love the Pepe and style,
Like those have never not been a banger.
I was appreciative actually,
kind of the general title,
And it's interesting kind of hearing,
the opening up to kind of like D gen and FT is at large.
came in through the chain link community side.
and I'll just give my kind of like,
view on L toads and then pass it off.
expected to get called up,
but what I think is cool is L toads has the ability with chain link and the
build project and the network kind of,
of community that's come together.
That's building this and giving feedback around this.
link Marines and into chain link for all kinds of the reasons.
we see that chain link is going to be,
that glue and the infrastructure to really allow the,
and be what everyone wants it to be.
and also give tools to developers and,
the next generation of builders to be able to do it even better,
And a key example of that is,
chain link functions that just dropped,
it's really cool that now,
there's this NFT project.
obviously by Matt Fury's art,
the Pepe has been kind of weaved into link Marine culture.
2017 and even probably before,
it's cool to now have this,
community coming around chain link.
interested in the project,
educating and learning about it.
the events that chain link,
holds and we're kind of there with,
the community advocates that chain link have.
and so it's cool to have like this positive community that's coming around,
learning and educating what,
what we think is going to be like the glue that's going to make this industry,
and space secure and thrive how we all want it to be.
So very appreciative to come in through the community side,
and really like kind of spreading chain link in a positive way,
oftentimes does not happen.
and historically like kind of a part of like link link,
link marine culture even has been through fortune,
which can often be like a kind of dark place on the internet for some people.
So we're having a good time.
we want this space to succeed.
PFP that I was able to craft and yeah,
get in the discord and like reach out to the team and provide feedback and,
like where this is headed.
And the team is super open and,
super high and Simon and,
the rest of the team and generals and,
the chain link stuff sounds like alpha.
And then I'm just talking about fucking Pepe.
That that's where my mind,
that's where my mind's at guys.
I'm saying there's some big brain,
Cause like oftentimes the link Marine community,
isn't really like kind of in NFT D gen culture.
like all up and trying to explore crypto,
It's kind of cool to see that like these communities,
that's definitely going to be in my new vocabulary.
shout out to my guy Wanda.
there's a project out there.
I don't really want to get,
I want to keep it kind of quiet right now,
he's also the founder or he's on,
he's a part of BBRC Ivy boys.
and they're doing a bidding system right now.
And I just pinned it up to the top,
biggest bidders Kongs with,
it looks like the highest bidder right now is actually link Marine toads.
got a bunch of grail NFTs.
there are some whales involved with this project.
why did Simon decide to ape in so hard on that,
It speaks to like Simon being in the culture as,
as well as a lot of other people on the project.
Simon's been here a lot longer than I have.
I think he said he's been here since 2018,
I came into the crypto space around 2020.
there's multiple reasons.
If you go look through his,
he's got a ton of Zookies.
And the second is brand awareness.
we're putting the money up to help bid on another project.
He likes the art on that project.
he's connected with the mean land team and some,
some of the founders of the mean land teams,
so I think he was just showing support in general and he,
this is his project as well.
just trying to help push awareness about,
You're not wrong about the whale part.
I'll give you a little out.
there's one billionaire in the discord.
I won't tell you who it is,
but there is a billionaire in the discord.
Jeffrey Epstein's in a disc.
I'm probably getting deep platform pretty soon,
I've talked to simple Simon before he's,
He's getting a brain doubt and he's a big time collector.
I usually just follow the big time collectors.
And I saw that earlier today.
cause I was bidding myself on the hedong auction.
Link Marine toes is like the number one bidder.
Definitely wanted to have you guys on here today.
so just give us a quick TLDR cause you guys have discord opening tomorrow.
give us a once over again.
so just join the discord up top.
I'm going to delete that tweet after I hop off the space.
register your wallet for the prement.
We are going to allow people to prement up to seven NFTs,
77 of those will actually be raffled off,
and then we have 7,000 for public met and then 2,223.
those are going to the treasury,
which is going to be the community,
is actually going to vote on how we use the treasury.
75% of all the sales go to the,
25% goes back to the team,
to fund all the costs that,
we've spent spending this up,
and getting people involved in the project and whatnot.
the vision is to use the treasury,
for the community and further the utility of the project,
whether that's building out,
more utilities or bringing on more partnerships and,
projects onto the launch pad.
it's really up to the community to decide,
So first two weeks of May.
so just keep your eyes and ears peeled.
which is one of our community guys.
he's basically running the discord for us.
and then we also run weekly to bi-weekly spaces with chain link build
So you can get sort of the alpha on new chain link build projects as
If that's something that you're interested in,
those are going to be hopefully the,
the projects that we are doing the,
the pre-sale allocations for.
So just some alpha to look into if you're interested in those
the only way that you can get,
allocated to those projects is if you stake chain link and the
staking pools are filled.
Thank you again for having us on here.
We definitely appreciate it.
If you guys go on the link Marine toads,
I'm always like replying bullish on you guys,
good luck with the auction too.
It looks like you guys are probably going to be the top bidder.
I know the top 10 bidders get a special prize.
So it looks like a link Marine toads can be getting some,
some extra marketing there.
they've pinned some things to the top.
Go check those links out.
Actually that wasn't a pun intended,
who I guess left the stage.
And then one last quick shout out to all the other projects who have
spoken and are about to speak.
really cool art from a lot of these projects,
super bullish communities.
I'm just scrolling down to see a ton of PFPs of,
of these different projects.
I'm starting to get bullish on a few of them myself.
we're only just scraping the alpha right now because I know we're like way
behind schedule right now,
but we got realm Hunter on the stage right now.
thank you for inviting us to this.
I had to add some other gaming projects come on.
let me reach out to realm Hunter because,
you guys minted recently,
minted a couple of days ago and,
we had a bit of difficulty during minting due to the amount of like traffic we
kind of like server communication issue with my Jiki dance front end,
which kind of reduced the momentum,
we have a lot of things build up in our fundamental.
And I think it's quite a good opportunity actually,
for those of you who want to know what we're really building and,
to really kind of see what we're building.
we're probably going to be sharing some alpha about what we're revealing
because we have a key that is about to be revealed soon.
I'm excited to get the alpha before the alpha.
I saw it even earlier today.
you guys did a snapshot at 12 PM Eastern for an airdrop.
before we go and discuss about that,
to just give context to everybody who's listening,
Because that's important.
we're trying to kind of reimagine a new entertainment franchise for 150 million
creature collection fans across the world.
So we're building multiple things here.
So we have a super awesome game,
if you've seen our trailer,
it's kind of a mixture of Pokemon and Genshin.
And the first version of the alpha and the demo is going to be released in the next two to three weeks.
And we have also within this franchising ecosystem that we're building,
we have like media as a comic,
multiple different kinds of,
And the point is for us to really target huge mass adoption.
there are people working with us like,
We haven't really like pushed his name out,
he's an ex director at Sega and also the ex CTO of Square Enix who kind of made Final Fantasy 14 and Sonic.
I don't even know those games,
he's working and advising us to make sure we have a very awesome game.
I think one of the things that people are not aware about our NFT mint,
we kind of wanted to keep it mysterious,
that didn't really work out well with the mint experience.
but one of the most important thing that people need to know about our NFT is that it's actually a factory NFT.
It's all like dimensional.
It gives you access to the whole ecosystem by printing the NFTs.
if you own one of our keys,
you would be able to get access to all our gaming characters.
And that's probably like going to be super valuable.
once we start really onboarding very,
like normal web two gamers,
that's going to be something that they,
And you'll be able to get it,
you can get access to low supply limited edition collectibles like PFPs,
and you will need that thing that we just airdropped called a key chain,
So the idea of the key chain is that you kind of like combine the different keys and then you have to kind of like use the right combination to get the low supply,
collectibles essentially.
One of the things you mentioned,
which of course is going to be a huge component for the future of all,
web three games is onboarding web two users.
How do you guys feel like you're equipped to be able to do that in a large capacity?
one of the key differentiating point with our project,
with a lot of other normal,
It's a little bit more like Patreon style building.
I don't know if you know,
they have like a couple of games there where they release,
like their game every single month.
We're actually going to be doing that because by releasing something every single month or every,
you're iterating very fast and you're able to get to the stage where the product is much,
And this is super crucial because most game launch kind of fail,
Because there is so much games already out there and you don't really have like kind of like a market fit yet.
I think for us is to make sure we get to the part where,
to get to a product that people really,
And that's the strategy that we are bringing in here.
And the reason why we're starting with WebTree is because there's a huge,
there's not a lot of gamer here,
a lot of people who can really support projects.
And we're not just building a game.
We're kind of also building a franchise,
And I think by mixing these,
this method of building the game every month,
iterating with the community,
And then we can continue building the,
the franchise essentially.
I should probably like chill out a little bit,
what is the alpha that you're going to share?
Because now I'm just like,
you teased us a little bit.
Do you have anything you want to share?
one of the things that we did announce a couple,
days ago is that we're going to be distributing our ecosystem token to
And it's super important to understand the value of our token.
we started as a game by project,
We are a CD five incubation project.
And the last CD five project just launched recently did like a 25 X.
And this is a bear market.
they did like a $9 billion at all time high.
We're issuing around 2.5% of our token.
And you will need to know kind of like the special traits in order for,
you to combine with the key chains.
many of actually we haven't really revealed all the traits yet in our
I can share some of it today.
So if you're interested in,
in shopping later on in our,
in OpenSea or in other marketplaces,
some of the traits that you should look into in our first stage reveal is
actually the luck basically.
So we have a luck element in our key.
we also have actually multiple different other traits,
but that would be one of the most important ones.
did you want to touch on that a little bit?
So the key chain is kind of required for you,
in order for you to combine the keys and,
that will allow you to get access to,
it also gives you in the future access to our limited edition PFPs,
So the key chain is actually something we haven't really marketed out yet
because we do want to just focus on pushing the keys first,
but it's super important that the key chains,
for people to know that you need to have the key chain in order for you to
one of these bad boys going to reveal.
we're actually going to be revealing this in the next couple of hours.
we're just finalizing a lot of things.
So actually our team is working,
to make sure the uploads is,
we're just doing this while,
so this is something you guys can,
everyone out there will be watching out for,
what are some expectations we can have for,
what exactly did the NFTs look like?
What did the keys look like?
So we've actually hinted a little bit about how our key looks like,
around January with like a 2d sketch post.
it's kind of a combination between several laws.
there's three kind of keys that we have in our,
So it represents three different house with three different
And those characteristics are going to be embedded in the model that
So it's actually a 3d render model,
So it's actually also pretty nice looking,
just like what you saw in the trailer.
And that's one of the things that,
that you kind of want to look at when you're buying the key is kind of
So we have several metadata that we're going to be releasing,
in the first stage of the reveal,
we will be releasing kind of like the lock element of the metadata.
And there's also going to be two things.
one is called like a podium,
we don't really want to tell everybody,
what the meaning of the podium and the pillar,
you want to find podiums,
you want to find the one with a lot of podiums basically,
but you'll see the name actually in the metadata and in the render of
I feel like right now there's a lot of competition for gaming projects.
Like there's a lot of different gaming.
we obviously see like a polygon,
permeation of polygon projects.
what makes you think that realm Hunter is going to stand out above?
not to make this a competition,
what makes you feel confident and what do you guys are building?
it's really because we started this game,
not because we want to make a web tree game,
but I just find it that the way the web to IP,
a business model work is a bit something I don't like,
You don't have ownership.
You actually have to keep buying their,
And the worst part of it is that the games that they created,
And back a couple of years ago,
this whole entire realm Hunter,
I think journey started because we wanted to make an alternative to work
And there's been a lot of like demand for this alternative.
If you see in the market,
there's so many different,
like kind of like monster taming clone,
there's always buyers for them because there's a need for a higher
quality version of that experience.
realm Hunter fundamentally starts building with that,
And I think that's really important because at the end of the day,
we need to know who we are targeting.
the subset of the creature collection of fans that are disappointed with the
state of the current market.
And we want to offer them a very unique experience within the web free space,
which we're digital ownership.
And fundamentally this allows us to really set up,
I think a good amount of user base and really start scaling up the
it's really about getting to know who we want to work with,
who we want to really target.
And of course it has to be a big market,
we feel comfortable because,
we're building technically something we want to play ourselves.
And I think that's something that can actually also be played by
of course iterate and keep making this happen.
So reveal coming a little bit,
the keys revealing soon around Hunter.
you guys have a stack team.
there's a ton of hype around this project for good reason.
And I think you guys have a great plan to onboard web two users because,
we're sometimes we exist in this web echo chamber of web three.
really appreciate you guys coming on sharing some alpha too.
Anything else you want to add?
the key chain has been airdropped to our users.
I don't want to get information.
I'm going to be a pretty busy next couple hours for them.
So stay tuned to stay on the lookout.
this is first off in a fantastic space.
I know we didn't have a long time to talk about IPG,
but I would love to kind of take a little bit of time back.
There's been some great discussions.
I don't think we really went into what IPG is,
I know that I and Paul is still on stage.
people are talking about traits.
let's just start with what the background of Adam,
as he kind of talked about Adam created the 24 logo.
he's been an animated artist for,
He had two previous collections that are voxel monkeys,
which is the top rated collection at that time on soul.
It's a different type of pixelated art.
So he's really been evolving.
What he's done is two previous projects have,
stand in the test of time.
they were selling for like 15 K or something amazing.
And they're still up really high.
And that's what kind of got them to iron Paul.
and I will go toe to toe with you.
The best animated art that's out there right now.
There's 600 different traits.
I'm sorry that I'm so animated right now.
it's just really awesome.
From the different signs that we have,
we have 341 different mech traits and there's 323 driver traits.
That's over 650 traits in a 4,000 collection.
This beautiful one of ones that we're called,
that are called pure breed.
There's three other factions that are coming and champions have been released right now.
And these are going to be,
They are going to be airdropped,
but this is just a collection that's going to stand the test of time.
We have merch coming soon.
And one of the coolest things that's coming right now,
that I don't think a lot of people maybe know about,
So if you have two mechs,
you can literally driver swap them.
Like the drivers can be rotated from one to the other.
And I don't think a lot of other projects have that out there right now.
So it's really bringing another dimension to already the best NFT in the space right now.
what are some of your favorite,
what is your favorite trait?
I am a part of the hamster Dow.
my favorite trait is probably going to be the wolf,
It's part of the purebred of Damon Headstone.
And it's just a really awesome design.
And I really like kind of shooting out.
One of the really cool things about some of the traits is that they're,
since the lore behind it is a little dark.
You read up on the lore about it.
Different animals have now taken over in different factions.
And so Adam wanted to bring it that it's a little more lighthearted.
So there's literally like hot dog launchers.
You have suntan squirters.
Like there's some just awesome traits.
And there's definitely going to be ones for everybody.
And I think all of them have their own story that you can make behind it too.
sort of like overview of the projects.
I'm sure you're checking in and yeah,
a purebred driver into your purebred Mac,
it unlocks a animated background.
so there are 40 purebreds total,
20 of which were minted together,
20 of which were minted separately.
there's a little bit of gamification on how you can trade into the purebreds.
So that's just one thing that's coming.
ZB looks like we got a RCC lover on the stage.
thank you for pulling me up.
I think I'm a low B carrier when it comes to the collectibles that we've been talking about,
but I wanted to mention maybe a couple of my favorite traits,
just how I became in the space today,
but I'll start off with my favorite traits.
I really like the organ treat.
There's not a lot of them,
There's just like this consistent sound.
I'm in the background and I really like,
so similar to how you're saying,
that the crown trait is something that gets super easily.
The crown trait for iron Paul being like,
good luck finding one of those on the floor.
this is probably the last space that I talk about it.
Cause I probably have over allocated breath into this,
I love my whole kit and caboodle,
I joke is like a secret one of one.
which is kind of another really kind of small trait.
so you can't visibly see the crown.
And I actually really liked that.
I don't got a lot to spend in the space.
Most of it's me trying to,
to grow small and dream big,
but my first love kind of switching gears now,
was the RCC space with slim hoods.
a back of like one of the first collections within RCC,
So it just really got me into NFTs.
And I was just watching a bunch of,
I hate to say it like Tik TOK and YouTube were like saying,
you should check out NFTs.
I love the slim hood a whole bunch.
Then it skyrocketed as RCC became more popular.
And then invisible friends came out and I was like,
invisible friends is something else.
So as I started more so like watching collections,
seeing how things changed and grew,
I need one of these things.
and then just seeing like how iron paws come out.
one of my favorite posts that,
Adam's had so far has been,
the one with the different like races and races is probably poor factions.
but it just gets me really excited for the future.
the champions talk sounds really cool,
but I love all of the traits,
I said that the Oregon one's really cool.
the favorite traits I have with my driver,
the hood up in the secret crown.
I also do have IPG chain,
I love the cat like traits.
the cat shooting out the hair balls.
The sound effect is legit.
Any of the ones that are like flying with lasers is really cool,
I just am appreciative of being up here.
Sometimes grandpa's like the champion in there.
He's helped me become a holder of many of these collections,
but there's some other good people and the RCC community.
It's been such a sweet evolution for,
I was collecting slim hoods pretty early on and,
Bulbasaur or like Charizard.
It feels like the fully like evolved version.
would evolve into Charizard and you're just like,
There's so many more bells and whistles.
There's so many more fire coming out of that,
so certainly a big fan and,
that's pretty much all I can say,
I just wanted to say like,
you were saying NFTs are a visual medium and,
one of the original use cases for this was,
And I feel like this is a sort of back to,
back to basics approach where I want people to go on open C and,
even if the floor ones look as good as the rare ones,
they're just browsing through all the traits,
just looking at all the detail,
sweat and tears that I put into this.
I like the last year of my life has been dedicated to this.
And I just want people to,
to really appreciate and enjoy the art and,
and sort of like back to basics,
of some of the best art around.
I like a huge toy collector.
there's always like these,
I love just looking at and discovering new,
projects like iron pogging is,
something that even if you don't have one,
you don't have the money you're listening right now,
it's definitely one of those carrots that,
you'll look at and you'll be like,
I've always wanted to save up for this or that.
cause it's something that,
I have friends of mine who are like,
I just need one of those.
I get the kind of same feeling when I think about toys that I collect.
And don't just listen to them.
So each tray has their own sound to it.
really fun to go through open sea and listen to the different traits with the
it really helps you become,
You really bond with certain ones.
there's some amazing ones,
a quote unquote in the floor,
whatever you want to call them.
Cause they're all really one of ones,
but really go through them and find one has a story for you.
that's at least what I did.
I've been definitely sleeping on the audio aspect of it.
Like I've seen that the Twitter,
previews that had music on it,
but like I haven't gone through a lot of them on open sea with the music.
retro hunters with the hand up.
I kind of wanted to add some context to this conversation with that.
I don't pause mentioning,
I'm actually the definition of one of those people that'll go on open sea and just scroll through hours of like every single trade of every single collection.
and especially iron ball game,
you guys had so much different variety and highly crazy guys.
we're going through the QC of our art right now personally.
And even though we're not like an artwork collection,
we have like 11 different base characters that all have different subsets of traits and stuff.
So we're pretty much creating 11 different NFT collections within one and the amount of effort and time it must have taken to animate every single one of those traits and make sure that all fits congruently within each other.
It's just like highly applaud you guys for that.
literally exact same thing,
regardless of how weird or like cringy or nerdy it sounds like toys and like physical figurines are so sick to me.
I have like literally five different NFT collections that have rugged over the past year,
but I just have like their physical figurines in my room.
and I definitely do think,
you guys are going to kill it.
I can definitely see the effort on,
There's certain things that,
come and go in the NFT space.
I remember like really early on in the NFT days,
and I have it on my wall right now.
I'm just like still like obsessed with his project called sub ducks by Frankie nines.
And I know like every single trait,
like I've looked at every single NFT.
and I'm glad that there's projects out there that are kind of sparking that same kind of,
curiosity and imagination for people out there,
I don't know if anyone else wants to come up and talk a little iron pogging.
there's certainly a really devoted fan base.
I probably haven't buried my head in enough of the iron ball gang of it all,
but that's why I wanted to have you on the Twitter space.
were able to come on today and shout out to coin Billy.
he was able to contact Adam and,
hasn't just browsed the collection,
even if you're looking to trade or not,
It'll be like a massage for your brain.
I gotta go eat dinner guys,
iron paw gang retro hunters go.
You have quarter of milk a follow too.
You got garbage friends coming soon as well.
Shout out to everybody in the crowd.
It's really fun to talk to cool projects,
give everyone else to follow.
I'll be back Thursday with another one of these spaces,
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