Hello guys and welcome to the Cosmos Club. I think we have asset mental as a speaker also. Just confirming that you're able to speak. Yeah, I got first class.
to be here. This is Sachin joining from the main account. Can you also please add Naman here? For sure. I will add him now. I can see he requested also. Hey Naman, you can also speak here now.
And by the way, hi, Syjinn. Welcome to the club. Minds for hosting us. Of course. Let's just get the make sure that all the technical details are sorted out.
before we kick it off, I can see people joining as well. So, no matter you're able to speak or... - Hey, hi. That's good from my side. I got it now. - Super. Awesome. Fantastic.
Yeah, maybe we should just kick it off. It's officially 230 here where I'm sitting. I believe you guys have a bit ahead of me. Where are you guys based again?
I live in India for two years myself in my soo Bangalore, Chennai, Patras.
Sweet. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining and welcome to the Cosmos Club where we talk all things, all things Cosmos, which we tweet about
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our space or podcast that we upload afterwards to Spotify, Google Podcast and all the other platforms. And today we have Asset Mental with Sajin and Na Man. Thank you so much for joining guys.
Hi, thanks, thanks, Ben, waiting us. So we have a lot of ground to cover already. We can see the questions from the community are just flowing in, which is awesome. It just speaks volumes as to how much you guys are catching people's attention and how excited people are.
for asset mantle to be honest. So before we dive into that, I just want to get a quick overview for anyone out there who doesn't know what is asset mantle, what is the MN TL token, and why do people need to pay attention here?
Absolutely. You know, so we'll quickly start with introducing asset rental. So asset mental is an NFT marketplace framework that enables creators and collectors to mint own and trade digital assets on its layer one chain.
Asset mental has got its own layer one chain again coming out of Cosmos ecosystem. The new code tool set which we are creating via our product called mental builder that would enable creators to build their own customized assets and marketplaces.
On top of it, we do have our own decentralized NFT marketplace called Mental Place, which would enable creators and collectors to experience some unique features on the marketplace and basically mint trade list.
share and consume a lot of new features or add on features on the existing marketplaces, which you see right now. The vision is to build an open source framework for interchains and fts and metadata standardization.
By contributing to the standard which as it mental is taking an initiative called enter an FT standard. And the mission is to provide a platform that would enable more diversified set of NFT use cases that could eventually go much more
beyond arts and collect. So, you know, as I said, as it meant, there being a live and chain, it's a framework which has got its, you know, native token as well called MNDL. To give a quick overview about MNDL token,
So, I mean deal token is on native token for governance chain security as well as the utilities across the broader asset mental ecosystem utilizing NFT transactions. So, from the utilities part, you could
go on via M&DL. So that's a quick overview about SITM and DILAN, M&DL Doke. Awesome. And something that I can see also a lot of people in the community are curious about. Whenever we talk about NFTs in the
at least immediately a lot of people think about stockcase. So first question I guess is why cosmos in the first place that you guys are building on? And second of all, how do you guys compare to stockcase, which I think has almost like a first move of advantage in the ecosystem?
Yeah, absolutely. So to answer your first question about why cosmos so the development for asad mental or more particular about enter NFT standard started way back in 2019 when the team was the first one to do a non-standard IPC transaction.
across the cost must ecosystem where the use case was more focused towards below leading our certificates more real world use cases kicking in and that's when we we showcased the use cases around NFTs in real world use cases in real world use cases.
So you know, so the team have been developing since then, you know, focusing more towards building the infrastructure for NFTs, which could provide an end to end stack of open source tools that developers
or creators or enterprises can modify to fit their advanced set of use cases. So what better than Cosmos here because you know, definitely the team had the expertise to build into Cosmos since 2019 and you know, answering your
second question, how do we differentiate ourselves from Stargays? Definitely Stargays have been one of the most successful and promising projects into NFT projects coming out of Cosmos ecosystem and purely a community driven as well.
This is, you know, as far as power and understanding goes, is more focused towards, you know, marketplace side and, you know, providing their own set of standard quality 721 and smart contract based again, cosmosam based implementation on the other hand.
acitmental utilizes inter-NFT standard which has been built natively at an application level. So there is no dependencies to smart contract level logic at all. Secondly, you know, the no code tool set which we are planning, which we are trying
building using mental builder that would enable creators or enterprises to build their own custom marketplaces, not just the front end, but the entire marketplace with their own native utility token and make it IBC
So like customizability being one of the core aspect which we are focusing on and ensuring that you know the infrastructure is ready for any enterprises or creators to just start building use cases around it. So yeah, that's good.
that's a core differentiator where we are more focused towards customizability and fitting the advanced use cases. But, you typically also have an NFT marketplace which right now exists throughout the Cosmos ecosystem. Yeah, and I think that actually
I was really curious about the results of the research.
about. It just seemed like it was a protocol and a platform that was four builders by builders. You have open source tooling that you open up for for people to remix and use as they please. You have this mental builder that you just mentioned with no
code tools. So is that correctly understood that you that that's sort of the approach that you're taking versus like other NFT platforms, which is more like on the creative side, you know, letting artists do what whatever they're doing. Correct. So, you know, the current market is more focused towards use,
around arts and collectibles. But as I said, we are more focused towards utility attached NFTs and some tokenized assets which grow much more beyond arts collectibles. For instance, music and royalty
distribution, play do own projects, my tell us is this are some of the core domains which you know we are trying to focus on and creating the infar around that. Yeah, and I think you have just not only does it shine through when with all the announcements that you're doing and and the tooling
that you have opened up for. But I believe you also launched a developer grant program. Is that correct? That's correct. So, Mantelgrant program is focused towards, you know, core developers would like to contribute and build solutions around, you know, mental
be it contribution to enter an FT standard, be it tooling and development apps around NFTs or be it core contribution at an module level as well. All this is part of the
of our mental grants program and you can surely check it at grandst.asipmental.1. We have ensured that we keep the process very transparent to the community so that everyone knows about what type of grants have been given out from
the pool and of course, you know, what's the key updates from the grantees as well. So yeah, definitely, you know, do check it out and you will see a lot of pointers there already. Sweet. And that brings me to perhaps looking a bit further into the future.
on your roadmap. So I think a lot of people got as a mental on the radar with the AirDrop. I know I certainly did. That's perhaps one of the most efficient effective mechanisms that we have for discovering your projects is to get an AirDrop.
Obviously, looking into all the different tooling that you're building out, the marketplace, the no code builder. There's so many things going on in teams. So perhaps you can talk a little bit more about the roadmap. How does the future look like in Asset Mental? Absolutely. So we, of course, are looking at the current market.
with decided that we are going to roll out in an incremental manner, incremental releases for the products. So starting with marketplace first, so mantle place, which is already live in Alpha version right now, not even beta, wherein you can sign in
sign up and claim your username. So, Asset Mental follows DID based approach. So, everything went as a link to a singular identity. So, you could imagine this as a domain service where you have a single domain represented and further having subdomains
So here what you can do is just sign up on the platform and claim your user names and very soon in one week or so you'll be able to provision multiple addresses to the same username. Further opening the doors for multi tenant use cases. So from the roadmap,
perspective, you know, next six weeks of plan would be happy to share that right now. First is we're going to roll out this feature which I'm talking about provisioning and provisioning and connecting your Kepler wallet with your username so that you can transfer right now.
how mantle token to the user names as well and in future have NFTs been transferred directly via user name based approach. We are also going to open up like I would say a secondary market for trading of the user names as well. So that's one of the utility
just like you had EMS in Ethereum, you could have the same here across identities. So that's going to be rolled out in next week or so post which we are going to release the white list feature which would basically enable
create those the Genesis creators which we have on board to create their own custom white list on the front end itself and not at the back end. So basically they can save the white list which involves either username, either Cosmos addresses, either mental addresses and
the back end would be able to make sense out of it. On top of it, you know what they can also do is have custom white list for their custom collection. So for instance, if any of the creator is going to release, let's say two sets of collection and you need two different white list for both. You can create two different
different white list utilize the same one for both as well. That is the white list feature which is going to roll out two weeks after we released the provisioning and provisioning feature. Fifth and sixth week from now is when we roll out the identity module
on chain right now it's off chain and on chain integration would basically ask you to sign a transaction and your username would then be stored immutively on blockchain on mental chain post which finally we roll out the mint module and estimating it to be around
September, second week for Mint module wherein we'll kick start the launch bar with our Genesis creators to go with either Blind Mint or either Public Mint depending on what they decide on. That's the roadmap for like next six months or next six weeks right now. I'm sorry.
Fantastic and I know crypto is moving fast, but it sounds like as it mentally almost moving faster with You know all these announcements happening the next six weeks as you mentioned I can't imagine how the next six months looks like in as it meant of them but exciting stuff for sure I wanted to weld a little bit on the
white listing as you mentioned whenever I had white listing I immediately think about KYC you know identifying yourself and all these things is that what you guys are building out and if so what's the what's the need for that like why are you focusing on this in the first place? Right so you know more
We have observed recently with white list as people trying to have a distributed attack towards whatever happened. The criteria set up by the protocol level be it at an adrop or be it a white list for NFTs.
to distribute accounts and just have a very limited set of user base utilizing this white list feature for the creators. But the way we are trying to tackle it is to be part of the white list, you also have to accept the request
which you will receive from the creators on the front end. So basically if your username is you know is white listed for a specific collection, you will receive a notification in your mental place profile that hey, this are the projects where you have been white listed. Please accept a
denied. If you accepted, you would have to sign the transaction with your key store files or with your capital account and basically prove that you are the owner of that particular username and the address assigned to it. So kind of a KYC I would say, but like
definitely we are not the one taking care of, you know, the basically the verification side of it. We take care of the authentication side of it, ensuring that at the blockchain level, the address which is signing it has been verified and authenticated and the creator
ensures that the user names which have been whitelisted have received the white list and white or not. So this is just a little bit more about how it's going to look like. I see. Yeah, make sense. And especially when you think about the metaverse with the whole domain username
feature coupled with white listing and at the same time when you're building out the metaverse I think that makes a ton of sense. I mean I can just imagine you know with NFTs flowing in and out of as a mental and all the connected chains, metaverse build on top, you want to be able to first of all easily set
then receive with a username or something of that kind, but also have this wide listing feature in place. Speaking of the metaverse, maybe you can touch upon that because obviously right now you're focused on the NFT part, but I know gaming and the metaverse is on your roadmap as well.
Absolutely. Even to all in our roadmap, actually fortunate to have the games when using asset rental modules and wallets. So with respect to gaming, again, we did roll out an initial gaming grants for
or play do on projects to build and utilize the open source text track from asset mental side or enter NFT and you know try to bring in some novel use cases around the play do and projects. So we do have one of the projects which is going to
which is an RPG battle game which has been into development since 20/19 and is already out in beta and now is going to go ahead with creating Web 3 wallets into their app.
and have enough purchases using this custom tokens. So that's where mantle wallet and mantle token is also going to come, which would basically enable the mantle token holders to purchase any of the other
sets in the game, try to utilize it, lend it to some other gamers in the application itself. And on top of it, have NFTs been offered as utilities as well for these purchases. So it's kind of an economic model for token size
but also like utility model for from the NFTs fronts. That's from the gaming front. Talking about meta was right now we do have like few of the projects which are still trying to build and figure out you know some broader use cases that can go just beyond
creating an art gallery or creating a space that set. So you are just taking it slow from the Metaverse front right now and letting the right partners we have on board to decide upon what type of utilities they want to offer to the community.
It's a bit of a sweet, fantastic. And that brings me to something you touched upon a little bit earlier, but let's just bring it home for anyone who is in doubt. But you talk a lot about the InterNFTs, which is also
or hashtag by the way if anyone wants to look it up you can see all the content that's been posted on that. But what is division and mission for the inter NFTs? And by the way this is a question from Rudy Assari 7. So we're starting to open up for questions now by the community.
So with respect to enter NFT, you know, to give a quick background. Inter NFT is an interchain and NFT and metadata standardization. And it was initially, you know, initiated from the
team but led by IXO and Interchain Foundation as well. So the collaboration was basically focused towards building an Interchain standard using DIDs as the base and you know to
try to focus more towards use cases and you know, IBC compatibility coming in as well, but yeah, like focused towards inter gene NFTs using the DID approach and to give you a quick overview about the development
as well. So the contribution initially, you know, were also from a lot of broader ecosystem projects starting from Polka.cosma. You had developers from World Wide Web Consortium W3C are taking
initiatives to build out, you know, RFCs on use cases around Internet and FT standard and trying to bring the multiple NFT layers which could act as the identity for us. So you have DIDs. So similarly, you had
chain identity first, which is IIDs for NFTs coming in. And post which like, you know, there were a lot of use cases when well, you can check it out at enter NFT repo as well. We did have like a working group called
last month after a long time and yeah this month as well we're planning it off and this month we're going to have like few of the projects presenting the use cases utilizing the Internet FT standard and the ID based approach towards NFTs.
Awesome. There's a lot of questions coming in by the way, so I'll just start opening up the four for community questions. A lot of them overlap with some of the questions that I had. So let's just give the benefit to the community instead. And by the way, one of you, Nicky, with the
account crypto queen, you're asking if we can open up the for live questions and that is certainly something that I plan to do and for you and Aman, I can tell you already that there's been people who has been requested to speak since we began. Right now there are three people that are requesting.
But I will wait a bit and take questions from Twitter directly and then I'll open up the floor so Keep your questions guys and stay on so so we can open up in a minute or so But another question that I think is super relevant these days coming from dual recovery
is about audits security basically. We see bridges getting hacked left and right these days with Nomad for example most recently. Not that you guys are bridge of course but yeah auditing and security is something that should be taken seriously by any project.
So how do you guys address this with the inter-NFT play and the platform that you're building? Absolutely. Chain security still is one of our core focus and that's why the strategy which we followed was to go
out with a very limited set of validators on board and kind of get the core core contributions coming in from the active validators which we have via our foundation delegation program. So the first step was that you know to ensure that chain is stable now that it's been like
more than three and a half months with close to 93 K wallets and more than four million transactions on chain and we have not even crossed our fourth month right now by the way. So chain security had one of the one of the core aspects which we have been for
focusing on and all the security guidelines and majors have been closely looked upon, and could host to all the validators who have been contributing enormously towards the same. With respect to auditing, definitely we are
the protocol level development is like not involved with smart contract, but we are surely going to have the next set of all it been done from the technical and security friend for marketplace, especially because that's where you know all the assets and very important
valuable assets from all the creators we have on board are going to be kicking in. That being said, like, you know, chain security being one of the core aspects which we had focused so far and now like going ahead with the audit and regressive testing towards blockchain modules.
on ensuring that there is no attack vector possible at all. And since like we have very less interaction with bridges from our end for the sits across our sentimental ecosystem, just trying to like ensure that we follow the best security measures at an application level as well.
I see. So the focus is on obviously the protocol level but also the marketplace which I think makes a ton of sense looking at for example OpenC.
which is not necessarily a similar project like yours. They don't have their own protocol, not that, but they've been hacked, right? Multiple times, if I remember correctly.
So that's also like that's more on the front-end side if I remember correctly. So that's also something that you have in mind when you are already in yourself so most. Absolutely. Yeah. That's the intention that you know, core core attacks at the marketplace or on you know any marketplace would definitely be from the front end.
perspective wherein you have like malicious signing mechanism or recently we saw the hack in Solana as well with like no interaction at all with wallets. So that's why like at mental place level you do have the possibility to
basically sign up with your own private key store file as well, which is not linked to your wallet extension. So you could imagine it as a semi-custodial platform where you have to take care of the custody from your end.
And for the private keys and monex and we encrypt the data at the backend level to ensure that the proper security has been made, ensure that there is no breach. And even if there is the possibility to have any kind of
reach the data is purely encrypted and no way to kind of ensure or make sense out of it until unless you do have the private key with you. Make sense. So there's been a few questions on distribution. So assuming that everything goes well,
You launch these different features, everything is secure, no hacks, things are smooth sailing, as typically they won't be, but let's assume for the fun of it that it all will be given that you are building a marketplace and all these things, these things tend to have huge
network effects and when that takes all properties sometimes. There's obviously craters on one side and users on the other. So distribution becomes very quickly something that's very important, almost paramount for the success of the token, of the chain, etc.
How do you guys approach distribution right now? That's a really good question. So yeah, to give a quick background about the go-to market strategy, which we followed. Firstly, like, since November was when we went out with TestNet post-witch, the go-to
market have been purely focused on onboarding creators who want to build some more diversified set of use cases much more beyond arts and collectibles. So like since December till April, we decided to run our Genesis creators
of the Genesis creators and have like extra incentives for being an earlier doctor via a drop campaign, which again is going live in next week with the first set of drop going out to the Genesis creators.
which now once the chain was live and we had the token rolling out as well and already receiving like a huge number of wallets via our State Drop campaign. We decided that we go ahead with like bringing in creators focused community coming on platform as well.
We give maximum community building support to all the creators. We have one word, Peter Spayers, Peter mentions, we have Instagram marketing. We already started with Instagram as well. Where few of our creators had a good traction.
that we have a 360 degree very aggressive mode into marketing side to on board on your community as well as the existing set of users from our creators community as well towards mental place. So yeah, like a lot of
gamification had been done already and few of them are also in the pipeline to ensure that there is better engagement from the community we have built so far. Awesome man. And I think that was time as a good time to open up for people who are on this
space to ask their questions and I can see someone named Arnold has been waiting, I think more or less since we started this space. So it's only fair that Arnold gets his chance to ask a question or say whatever he has on his chest. So Arnold, I'm approving your request. Are you able to speak?
I'll still with us in this space at least. I can see you're on mute. I bro, how are you both? Am I already well? Good. Thank you. We can hear you louder. Yeah. I have no
that almost 70% of investors are focused purely on the price of a token in short term instead of understanding the real value and health of the project. So could you tell us some motivation and benefit for investor to hold M and T L token for long term? Thank you.
That's a good question. So like, you know, to give a quick background around the way the tokenomics was being structured as well. So typically, you know, whenever you are trying to build a live one chain, you have, you know,
a token associated with it, but majorly the token is more focused towards just to aspect which is governance and chain security by delegating if you're following D-Post or delegated proof of stake based consensus
But with a mental you have a real token utility as well. As I said more towards NFT transactions, which includes minting trading, royalties distribution, fees collection. And initially what we have done is we have
the initially the token would only focus towards food strapping the Genesis creators and liquidity provisions. So if you would have seen or mental right now has been trading at osmosis with osmo mntl pool and there are incentives attached to it for
providing liquidity. So this kind of gives you a fair foundation when set up for this current set of user base. Now once the marketplace goes live and once you know the more and more dps keep on coming and building why our mental grants program or why enter the NFT.
We will see a lot of value accrual kicking in towards Mantil and the distribution is set in such a way that we know there are going to be a lot of factors throughout this journey.
and because of which, you know, a lot of utilities are going to be towards NFTs, towards meta-verses, towards split-to-ones, so you will have in-game economies and revenues been generated in the game. In Native Mental Token, which you can further utilize and earn
additional rewards, either via staking, either via liquidity provisioning. So like the biggest challenge which we saw was, you know, NFTs are relatively new to cosmos, but like very widely, you know, popular and adopted towards Ethereum side and creators
This would love to have exposure from Ethereum ecosystem coming in as well. So that's why we created the ERC20 version of MNTL as well, thanks to gravity bridge for supporting that. So now you can also have the ERC20
version of a menteel. So basically, menteel would not only be available in your Kepler wallet, but also in Metamaascand. We are in the process of creating some pools around Uni Swap as well. And of course, have a
listing on a lot of dexas across Ethereum side as well or even compatible chains. So that's why you'll see a lot of movement around token and like the intention is that we give a fair exposure to all the broader ecosystems, not just
So, Mantel is definitely going to be listed on few of the centralized exchanges also towards Ethereum side and now you know also have like pools been created across units with better liquidity as well. That's awesome man and actually something that I'm just
And that's actually something that I was thinking about earlier like I mentioned earlier that catching people's attention with an air drop is a very very clever way of doing marketing and a lot of people at least pay attention when they can now drop and moving into Ethereum I think that's very why
device, if you want broad distribution, especially with it, like it all starts with the token usually and then people get into the project, etc. Speaking of Ethereum, we can't talk about Ethereum on Cosmos without talking about if FMOS. Is that something that you looked into? Like, would there be some synergies there, like bringing
some of your smart contract work in Cosmos on to Ethereum via FMOS. Like, are you guys looking into that or is that just not possible today? That's again a very good question. Yeah, like if you've looked at AssetMental Relayers, we do have like IBC,
been established with the most chain already. On top of it, we are also in talks with Axelard team as well and looking at getting more EVM based assets coming into mantle chain as well and vice versa.
you know, definitely like collaborating with both Axelor and Fmos and still like in the pipeline to first set up the base, get our mint process done and post which we would see a lot of liquidity around both the tokens been traded across both
the ecosystems and of course a lot of assets flowing to improve from both the chains. Awesome man. We got another question I think from Jack Sparrow who has also been very patient with us. So I'll give you access now Jack Sparrow if you can speak let me know.
I love the name. Me too. That's why I picked it up maybe. I can see you. I'm you the Jack Sparrow. Can you hear us Jack? Can I ask my question?
Yes, please. Yeah, my question is if I buy some NFTs from the market place. So what is the guarantee that someone will buy NFTs from me in the future time? Like I have right now 25 NFTs with me in
by Meta bus but whenever I list it got after one month it is unleashed so no one is buying NFT from me so how did you guarantee that your NFT will buy in your marketplace in future?
Got it. So, you know, and definitely this is something which we also had to like deeply analyze as well and understand how the current market is moving as well. So as you know, you pointed out very well that you're an if these have been just sitting in your
Metamas call it for a very long time now. Imagine like a situation where you could actually earn some better yields by taking those NFTs as well and on top of it like have born mechanism been implemented as well. So if creators permitted
And you don't want to, you know, you see that your NFTs are not been sold due to multiple reasons. You can do is just burn that NFT, get the tokens back and additionally earn staking rewards by staking those tokens.
So it's just like creating a yield and economic model around NFTs not just sitting in your wallet, but like have some revenue or yield opportunities possible as well.
Awesome. There was a question also from Jack Sparrow on the currency. He mentioned that in the beginning. What currency will I be paid in with the NFT? I assume it's going to be the MNTL token. Whatever.
And that's actually something that I think a lot of the protocols running on Ethereum is sort of missing out on. It's a lot of value at least that they bring to the Ethereum ecosystem instead of their own, so to speak, like
As soon as you imagine that Uniswap or OpenC or whoever makes payments also for gas fees, all those transactions will be paid in their own currency.
right now they're paid in Ethereum typically. I can just imagine for example something like Uniswap if they switch from you know, Casvies being paid in Ethereum to Uni, the price of Uni which is explode. And in all I value capture you actually have a
already from the beginning in asset mantle. Awesome. So Fred, I think it's next up of Freddy 77. I just approved your request to speak.
I'm able to speak Mr. Fred.
If you still with us. Hello, can you? Yes. Okay. So my question is in today's digital copyright protection is extremely important. So how does it work? How is it guaranteed that the system knows who is the re-unoffent NFC in the market?
And what if people create the same NFT bot change a little scene of it? That's a very good question. So like, you know, to give a quick background around copyright sign how we're trying to manage those first thing is
This platform is going to be purely curated by community driven dows. So they would be responsible for ensuring what asset schools on marketplace. Are they forged? Look at the community response and if we get any of the red flag coming
and they would be immediately taken out from the marketplace. Secondly, if someone tries to forge the data and again mint it on the marketplace or across mental chain, it won't be possible because here the metadata and asset is going to be stored on chain.
So not only the let's say if it's an image or a GIF file, you would have a hash generated for it. And even if anyone tries to kind of just play around with the image by editing it or using a user,
you know, online tools like Photoshop to edit those images and try to again, read me those applications. The backend would just validate that and see if the hash matches, you know, there will
again would be a red flag thrown out that this is a forged copy and would be immediately taken out and the particular creator or a particular user would be disincentivized for this users by like taking out the bonding face from them. So yeah, like curation being
of the core aspect which we are focusing on and whatever assets goes on mental plays and broader asset mental chain they would like be only be going via community ribbon dogs and on top of it have a verification mechanism in the backend as well.
Awesome. Thank you for that question Fred. I think it's an important one to keep in mind. We got the Art Mintu who has the Elon Musk profile picture. So that's going to be exciting if it's actually Elon who is trolling us here or who
who I'd mean to is. I do have a lot of hard stuff in the next five minutes. So yeah, it could be the last question. That's okay with you. It definitely is. There's actually the last person that requested to speak. So I think that's perfect timing.
You still with us, I'm into, otherwise I have a question as the last one.
It seems like we lost Admin too. Maybe Elon is off to do something else. He's a busy man. So my last question, I think that sort of wraps it up pretty nicely. What is the end game for Asset Mansell? You guys have so many things going on. It's a very exciting future.
And you know now is the time in bear markets like these when winners the next winners are getting created So what's the end game for you guys? And game is gonna be to you know Just have more diversified side of use cases like
not focusing on arts and collectibles at all. Although they are a big part of our ecosystem, but the end game is to have like more utility attached and you know real world at use cases around NFTs when build a utilizing asset mental module and
And we kind of showcase the tech stack to broader enterprises as well to partner with for integration with their existing use cases. So like that's the, you know, mission right now to focus on building some diversified set of use cases.
Of course, this is the beginning and it's going to be very challenging journey for sure. But yeah, the team is very confident and the market is something which is actually made for builders and super proud to say that the team is full of builders.
just not giving up at all. In fact, it's kind of motivating for us because the only thing you have to focus in their market is building and that's what the end IT is focusing on right now. Yeah, I think that shows, I mean, hats off to you guys. You're moving fast, you seem to be focusing on the right
things and shipping things in a safe, secure, and scalable way. So that takes a tremendous amount of effort. This comes from someone that has been building business products myself for a good amount of years, 20 years or so. So with that, you know, thank you so much, Naman for
joining and searching for setting this up. I know it can be very intense to be blasted down with questions like this but you did super well. You educated us all on what is in store for us with Asset Mental. But thank you so much for joining guys. This was the Cosmos Club. Signed up today if you haven't already.
on the newsletter, follow us on all these podcast platforms where we push this out after the space. So, Jin, Namhan, thank you so much for joining. Thank you for inviting me and thank you so much. Really appreciate it. I'm really good questions, but now I stand looking forward to more communication
from your end as well. But yeah, keep up the great work. Super excited. Right on, man. The future is bright and as a mental at least, maybe not so much in all other projects. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. Thank you so much. Oh, yes. Take care, man.