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Recorded: Dec. 9, 2025 Duration: 3:36:37Space Recording
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Thank you. Yo, it's so fucking boring.
It's so boring.
To be fair, I'm having fun.
To be fair, I'm having fun, but like, I actually have a job.
So, uh...
Dude, I also have a job but it's so
fucking I'm waking up every day oh what can I do let's go yeah but your job is
like bookkeeping though do your job is like bookkeeping I actually have a job
you're bookkeeping respectfully to your better your job is better but your
bookkeeping I'm panicking dude I don't know what to do I'm really like depressed
like it's not even like I'm not even poor.
My net worth is at all-time high, but I'm so bored.
I'd rather lose money and just...
Get a girlfriend.
Yeah, easier said than done.
Actually, I'm...
Untrue.
I'm well on my way.
Getting a quality girlfriend is the thing.
Getting a girlfriend, you can get one next week.
But quality is different.
Quality control is different.
No, everyone is as handsome as you, Andrew. You know are people who struggle listen will listen i put the pfp back i'm back
to my origins i feel better i hope everyone feels better as well looking at the penguin over the
puppet um yeah girlfriend this penguin is much better andrew actually thank you i think so
thank you i saw on the floor i was like this is too easy not to buy off the floor.
And I was like, we're going to grab it.
So we grabbed it.
Good job, bro.
Shout out to Reach Exclusive. Oh, fuck.
I saw your quote.
I also quote retweeted them.
Fuck.
It's exciting.
Oh, you did 200.
I just remember.
Reach.
Yeah, dude.
Nobody better, to be honest.
Nobody better.
Nobody better. Yeah, nobody nobody better is will on stage or
will fall off because he showed you fell off on my screen no no can you co-host
them because this thing is whack I don't it depends I don't want to force
well to bear well are you sticking around then I can coast you yeah I will
stay for at least 30 minutes nice. Yeah, it's so boring.
I don't know what to do.
I'm going to host spaces every day.
I was actually talking to Berdin.
I don't know if you know Berdin well.
So I'm going to like 6pm European time, I'm going to do his spaces as a co-host every
day now.
So I'm going to be less on the timeline and just do spaces all the time.
Hey, what happened to the ATP recoup? I'm waiting like every
morning to join it.
I don't know. They were so consistent
like three years and now they're just fucking
partying. They're in Miami,
they're in Breakpoint, I'm going to
there, here, fucking...
I don't know what they're doing. I think they will be back.
I think they just have a lot
of traveling. I'm in for your takeover.
I'm waiting like every day that you make the takeover.
Oh, bro, they're not paying me.
I do it sometimes when I feel like it.
I mean, you are not now paid to do it.
Nobody's paying me for anything.
Ah, shit.
Shit, shit.
Yo, Ethan.
Wait, can you hear me can you hear me yeah i know all right cool cool cool my mic was on mute bro um it's been a fucking weird last couple days um i can't remember which day it was because i was
that drunk i think it was two days ago but whenever the ab Abu Dhabi F1 was, I was on the yacht.
I don't know how I got on the yacht.
I just finessed my way there.
And then I managed to get on a yacht that I'm sponsored by.
I'm still actually hung over two days later.
So my badge is the CZR badge.
They had a yacht.
So I thought, okay, well, I'll try and get on it.
I said, look, you know, I'm sponsored by them, blah, blah, blah. They let me on. I had a yacht so i thought okay well i'll try and get on it i said look you know i'm sponsored
by them blah blah blah they let me on um had a great time i drank so much alcohol that there's
videos of me that my friend took that if they ever get out to the public i will be cancelled forever
and i'll be sent to prison they're that bad but all in all it was a very good night yeah you want to like send that
video exclusively to us ali i'll show you in person um when i see you again bro but that
those videos cannot touch the internet like i am absolutely just blasted don't know where i am
at one point i was um i was on a second yacht like there was an
after party yacht once the once the race finished and my friend carried me like dead weight put me
on a couch covered me in pillows so i wouldn't get kicked off the yacht because i was completely
passed out some guy like a bouncer picks me up says brother you had too much carries me off the yacht gives me a
bottle of water and i'm like where the am i what what happened where where where one minute ago
i was on a yacht now now i'm outside what's happening i call my friend he comes out um
and then we go home but it was a great night
you know i you do you
I haven't been partying
I should be
I should start partying
to be fair
like
I'd do anything
above this
thing at home
and being bored
shit
and it is so boring
right now
like CT
it's so
boring
it's crazy
I think it's the worst
it's ever been
I don't know
for me
there's nothing
there's literally
nothing to talk about I did a I posted a poll today that's how bad it's ever been, I don't know. For me... There's literally nothing to talk about.
I posted a poll today, that's how bad it is.
I posted a poll like how 2025 was for people.
And that's how bad it is, that's how you know that it's bad.
Oh my god.
What was the...
Wait, let me check this poll.
Let me see.
Is this your most recent tweet?
Let me see.
Let me see.
Yeah, so we have 35% bad, 45% mid, and 20% good.
I see it.
Okay, sentiment check.
I voted on this one.
I voted good.
Damn, you have a lot of votes.
No, I voted good, but I'm only talking about financial.
I'm doing good financially.
But if you're asking me how fun this year was, it was not very fun.
It was fun in the beginning.
And then after summer, I i think it started sucking ass and now it's like the worst i've ever remembered really
i thought it was i thought beginning of the year was good summer was kind of dry september august
were good it's been good now no i think i don't know if you remember andrew when we did web free
launch like a few months back even when prices were up i was saying like it's, I don't know if you remember, Andrew, when we did Web Free Launch like a few months back, even when prices were up, I was saying like, it's boring.
I don't know what to do.
I'm so bored.
Like, what apps are you guys using?
Nobody could give me an answer.
Dude, I put out a tweet.
I put out a tweet yesterday.
I just tweeted, what is there to do in crypto right now?
I have 600 replies and not a single one of them was a good one.
Like, I was going through like, please, please go and give me one app.
I can use, give me something, give me one meta, give me not even a meta.
Give me just something I can do for two days.
I saw nothing at the fucking base posting account came and said, oh,
you can just base post.
I didn't even know what the fuck I meant.
Like it's really bad.
Like it's weird down bad guys.
Let's be honest.
What was the last thing you liked?
What was the last thing you liked what was the last thing
that you liked
to be honest
I mean
it sounds a bit silly
that was like
info 5
when it was new
and you could just
fucking
be number one
on leaderboards
like we would put out
one tweet
like boom
number one
early day
yap farming
I think that was
early Kaido days
that was fun it's gottenido days, that was fun.
Yeah, it's gotten a bit more... I mean, I worked at Kaido. I'm just talking info5 in
broader. It's more refined now. When it was new, it was like everyone was new. There was
no rules. They were just fucking going at it like crazy. I think all metas are more
fun in the beginning before they get... I mean, to be fair, DeFi and everything was the same.
I don't even would need something fun, just like something to talk about.
In the last few days, I thought myself, a lot of times,
just scrolling and looking like there's something to talk about,
but there really is like, maybe it's me, maybe I'm washed,
maybe I'm out of the loop, but I didn't see, like, really a lot where I said,
okay, I have to talk about this.
It's all the same as people complaining about InfoVisor,
people posting, like, the messages, Zach,
XBT posted in his Telegram.
They posted that 100 times on the timeline.
Engagement tips, like, all this stuff.
And it's, I don't know, it sounds so boring.
No, it's really bad.
For them, staff is the worst to be honest, those are the worst ones.
Yeah.
No, I think it's everyone.
Staff Platinum literally just tweeted, this is boring.
I think they are less interesting TGA upcoming as well.
Yeah, the TGA offcoming as well.
Yeah, the TGE is knock-knock.
And they all delayed too.
Let them at least TGE, and even if they do bad, we have something to talk about.
They don't even TGE.
Yeah, we can't even roast them because they're not TGE.
It's bad.
Andres. Yo.
I've been going back through my old playlist on YouTube,
looking at dropshipping courses.
I'm down really bad.
No, what's going on, lads?
How are you doing?
I don't know.
We're just complaining that it's really boring.
Oh, it's so fucking boring, dude.
I just saw Cook's post yesterday as well.
I didn't imagine him talking about leaving fucking CT anytime soon.
It's so bad that he started talking about it.
But yeah, I don't know.
Hopefully something changes, dude.
Like, this is insanely bad.
It is really bad.
I think, honestly, I think spaces is the only, I don't space is the only worthwhile thing right now.
I don't know what else. I'm doing my GM post. I feel gay every morning.
How's the status on the girl?
How's it looking?
I've seen her I think three times now.
I'm hopeful.
She's very nice.
I haven't seen a single red flag yet.
That's very good.
Are you starting to learn Portuguese?
Yeah, I can speak a bit.
I mean, it's very basic. Very, very basic.
But it's enough to survive.
Lovely.
Well, thanks for having me lads. Keep it rocking.
Yeah dude thanks for being here. Holy shit! Andrew we're fucking 177 people in here what the fuck.
Yeah I know it's because there's a bunch of KOLs up on stage.
It's because of me bro.
What's up bro?
Latin I'm chilling.
Yeah because this is the only thing in CT to do right now, be in this space.
There's nothing else going on.
No, they're releasing.
Crypto is shit, so like, fuck man, what are you gonna do?
And I feel like it happened so quickly.
I don't know, like two months ago it was still okay.
Like people were, oh, we have this fucking, I don't know, things are happening on some
chains.
We have Monad to bid.
We have MegaEth, airdrops, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, I don't even know.
Fuck.
The biggest news this week is that SACXBT wants the list of all the Kaito and Wallchain
and Seed accounts.
You know why that is?
I will tell you why.
Definitely Binance or Paradigm will be launching an InfoFi platform.
This guy's just a hired gun.
Of course.
What do you think?
He's looking for some kind of scam?
He doesn't even expose scams anymore.
He hasn't exposed scams for years.
He just takes payment to trash people.
He works for Binance.
He talked about that.
And since he talked about it he's
denied it and he's he's openly an advisor for paradigm that's in his bio on twitter so
i saw that message or whatever in his tg like not like i'm in there but
like whale said right it was posted on twitter 7 000 times so um yeah i will guarantee you
like i would bet money on it that
either Binance or Paradigm
are going to be coming out with an InfoFi platform
and he's probably putting together some case
as to why the other ones are shit
and they're all bought it or something else
it's just going to be mudslinging
against what's already out there
and the reason will not be because
he's a good guy and he's trying to expose
fraud it's because the guys paying him are launching their own scam.
Shit.
I don't know.
I saw it.
I'm just guessing, by the way.
I'm literally just guessing all that from the message.
But I'll be ready.
It's a good guess.
I've been thinking about it.
When I saw it, I was thinking, is he trying to, I don't know, fucking do a list to block?
But then it made no sense.
Because even if you made a list of everyone, you would get like all of
CT and collateral damage, right?
Even people who don't use it are like signed up.
And then I was thinking maybe he's trying to see how many are bots versus real and
so on, but I don't know, nothing.
This is the first thing that he cared about that.
Right.
He thought he was supposed to be investigating like, no, that's what made
sense what you said.
Like imagine if they're, Hmm. Shit. So that's quite made sense what you said. Imagine if they're...
Hmm.
Shit.
That's what it is.
If that is the situation, sorry to cut you,
if that is the situation, then what do you think of InfoFi in general?
Does it mean it has very much room to grow?
InfoFi is the same as I always said.
Like, it's...
I mean,
it's stupid, right?
It kind of ruined CT.
Like, it ruined
the discourse of CT.
Like, now the onus
is on you
to, like,
build your own
frame,
like, on CT
of where you get information.
And, like,
you have the option
to cut out InfoFi people
and, like,
the fucking terrible slop
that's all over the timeline. So it's fine's like info 5 is just its own silo of ct that
keeps growing i never liked info 5 right but on the like i always talk shit about info 5 from the
beginning saying it was garbage low quality ai fucking slop it's just paid advertising but
anyone can raise their hand and join and so but it but it's not like, I just want to say the other side of that. I'm not hating on the
fact that it exists. Like it's cool that people can go get a paycheck and they can do it on
Twitter and they can use AI to leverage like, you know, that's cool. I'm not hating on the guys
using it, getting money out of it. I think that's great. Cool. Go get your money.
But yeah, it did expand the amount of people talking about crypto in a bad way. You have to put more effort to keep your fee value added for sure.
Is there much of a difference between what Monad did with the testnet and all the type of farmers that farm that with InfoFi?
I mean, the moat is a little bit different but i think the outcome is the same i think i think i think they contribute to the exact same factor
of what we're dealing with right now what do you mean though like monad monad had people farming
the test net and then they just didn't give them money but info is just bounties like info is
different it's a bet it's a but the personnel that was doing it was is the same to an extent of what info fi was the reason why they were here doing the things that was doing it is the same to an extent of what InfoFi was,
the reason why they were here doing the things that they were doing.
Obviously, the process was different, but I guess the outcome or the ICP is the same.
Well, yeah, but I mean, what does that have to do with anything?
So yeah, third worlders love to try to get free money off Twitter out of crypto.
Is that what you're saying?
Yes.
Does that ruin the discourse?
I didn't say that ruins the discourse.
It's the quality of information.
You're the one talking about the people doing it.
I'm talking about what's happening.
But they're not crypto native, are they?
Well, I don't think a lot of them are.
No, they're people trying to get free money.
So the quality of information, I'm talking about a lot of them are. No, they're people trying to get free money. So the quality of information,
I'm talking about the quality of discourse goes down
when there's a bounty board
and you can just say like,
oh, these 20 projects are paying money
and go smash them all into Grok or ChatGPT
and then start spamming the timeline.
So the easier it is to get money,
the more people are going to come
and try to get the free money,
I guess is what's happening.
Yeah, I agree with that. If InfoFi was set up like three years ago in 21 or in 20, would the outcome be the same? Yeah, why wouldn't it be? If there's a bounty
board with free money, then people are going to come and gravitate towards the free money.
Only because I think the general like information that was put out back in 20 was different than it is
now. Even from a crypto macro perspective, it was different. But there wasn't a magnet
of giving everyone crumbs to free money for spamming the timeline with posts. That's the
thing. That's the difference, right? So the giant magnet distributing crumbs to everyone for free
was created, and then it magneted in all these people that wanted to just like span the timeline
with posts to get their crumbs.
Like that's the change.
And the magnet is InfoFi.
It's fine.
Like I'm not really, it's my feed's cool.
Like I, look, I met Bandit because of InfoFi.
Like there's people that have leveraged it in good ways.
But yeah, I think like if you don't,
if your timeline is not all InfoFi slop
and you had to actively fix that, you're lying.
No, I think it's cool on protocol level,
but the average user is not very impressive.
And to me, I think it's very low quality.
Breaking bandit Kaito employee
costs average Kaito user low-quality.
I don't think they'll all live, right?
There's no reason for them all to be around.
Kaido is the best one, and it's the one that will stay around, and it's the original one.
And now there's 200 derivatives. It's the same as everything in crypto, right?
Some good idea comes out, it gets traction, it works well. And then like arguably
works well, but like obviously Kaido worked the best of all of them. And then it gets 100 copies
and then all those copies die. Like that happens to everything, even from Bitcoin, right? There's
a million copies after Bitcoin was created as a crypto. Now we have 25,000 Alt-L1s that are all
going to die. They're already dead. And like you can extend that to every dex protocol like remember the pancake swap era you had fucking 20 million different swaps so this is
just the same thing we always run in crypto they're all going to go away i'm surprised by like if it
is binance or uh paradigm building one which i'd be shocked if it's not that i'm surprised they're
so late and maybe they're going to try something different and blah blah blah blah blah blah but Whatever happens out of this if they do put something out
I'll be surprised if it's still around in like a year or two because it's yeah, you're cooked
It's an extractive scam basically TLDR
So I missed this whole SAC, XPT, Binance partnership like that's quite recent or is it?
Yeah, I think he posted about it like four or five weeks ago,
maybe six weeks ago.
Two months.
It was after.
Yeah.
Like I think it was right after or before the October 10th thing.
The weird thing to me is he never said anything about Binance on October 10th.
Like he didn't talk about the Athena depegging or like any of the sketchy stuff.
There was tons of good information all over Twitter on all the sketchy stuff that was happening around
that like mass liquidation event and this guy is supposed to be the number
one detective in crypto and he doesn't say anything why do you think that is
he works for Binance yeah dude I saw this clip oh fuck I can't remember I
think CZ was on a stream I can't remember which one and he says like like
minutes before the October 10th crash he's like I don't know what he said he's like oh it's gonna be a volatile day
but it will be okay something like that like it was I don't know it was very
sketchy they had a problem they had a problem with their they had a problem
with their Athena USD Oracle and they announced it and then they announced that they were going to fix it a
week later and in between that time someone attacked the oracle someone air quotes right
so i think they announced that they knew they had a problem because that's how you cover your ass and
you're like yeah no we identified it we were going to fix it and then obviously like the thing that
started the whole entire liquidation event was usTE de-pegging on Binance.
And who has the liquidity and money?
And like, it's obviously them, right?
And that's just their cover your ass announcing the fix.
But why announce the fix and the problem before you fix it?
It's all a bit weird, bro.
A little bit, a little bit.
A little bit, a little bit.
Johnny, want to say something?
I wanted to add that we had similar things.
If you think back in 2021, we had all farms of third world countries
who have been paid to go into telegrams and chill all day some tokens.
I mean, it's just that it is on CT,
but it was before on Discord with all the farming of the whitelists
and with TG farming.
You had all of these metas just on another platform
and now we have it on CT.
And just to think it will solve the bot problem,
what the guy, what ZXPT is doing will not.
I mean, he is saying that he wants the list.
I would agree on Cook what he is saying,
that he is paid to fund all the people
for what he needs the list of people doing that.
I mean, that's a bigger problem on Twitter,
not just on CT, that there are bots
and people who want to make the money, as Kuk said,
it's easy, they should make the 10 bucks.
There was also a Pondstake a few days ago.
People are arguing here about something
that InfoFi platforms are paying $50, $100 for 10 tweets.
And there are people who are putting out 500 replies a day
to get the $15 Elon check.
I mean, that was a hilarious take.
I liked it.
I mean, if you put it in perspective, you get 0.001 cent per post on a B weekly.
Hey, in this market, in this market, swear to God, it's not that bad.
Hey, you pay now $40 for premium plus. Put that in relation. I mean, you get back what you pay for premium plus.
I think if you have a badge, I think you get premium for free, I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, you can't have a badge and not have premium. So if you're like too cheap to buy premium and you get a company to give you a badge you also get premium but you know what happens too this is bullshit because i pay for
my own premium and i like premium plus whatever i think it's 500 bucks a year like it's not that
cheap and i'm switching badges so i got rid of like a badge like a couple weeks ago and if you
drop a badge they take your check mark away so So I had almost a week with no checkmark,
and everyone in my replies,
where's your checkmark? Where's your checkmark?
Did they take it?
And so even if you're paying for it,
if you drop a badge and nothing else changes about your profile,
you will lose your checkmark,
and they re-verify you, which I thought was very stupid.
I talked to support about it,
and they were like, oh, that's just the process.
You guys are idiots.
So you're charging me for days where I don't have the badge like give me a refund bro i want like nine bucks back
there's a way to fix that actually um i had the same thing when um the ton badge i had
got removed so all you have to do is go private and within around about 12 to 24 hours you'll
have your premium badge back bro when i I dropped my nice pack thank you no
worries bro can I add something yeah good yeah I like for this you can buy a premium not normally
and when whenever you will get badge it will automatically upgrade to premium
plus so like it will not that much for premium it's around five dollar so your check mark will
also be not removed whenever they will take your badge back no yeah like if you get a badge you
get premium plus we know that we're talking about switching badges no no like uh i'm saying don't cancel your premium uh like fully don't cancel your premium
plan just take normal premium which costs around five dollar and whenever you are switching the
badges you will get uh like premium plus but when they will remove the badge still your premium plan
will active so you will not lose your check mark so that's the solution like it's not like pretty 100% but it's good
holy fucking shit we're doing x badges premium alpha Benjamin save us I can't save you I fucking
I did a live stream on space.io earlier and I've never been through a more hateful process platform fucking thing in my life.
And so, to be honest, I came here for a bit of reprieve and you're providing it to me.
This is actually much more entertaining
than trying to fucking farm an NFT marketplace that no cunt needs.
What's space, bro?
Because there's another thing called space that sounds kind of cool.
I've never been more disill'm just disillusioned.
Like, honestly, it's fucking mental.
But what is it?
I've seen sort of some InfoFi thing around space.
Is there two A's or something?
Is that the same thing?
Yeah, so space for two A's.
It's an NFT marketplace.
They've got like a million dollars worth of their token on Wallchain across four epochs.
I think they're also doing a number of
other InfoFi campaigns. Essentially, right, cleverly, they are encouraging people to go.
I mean, what does an NFT marketplace need other than a fucking NFT market boom? It needs users
and fucking on-chain activity. So why not hold someone's arm up behind their back and make them
go through the most disgusting process ever with your half-baked platform then offer them uh
quarterly fucking you know sorry not quarterly but uh monthly drops of 250 000 of a token that
hasn't even tge'd yet honestly i'm never going back on there that leaderboard can go fuck itself
bro what is scary is this guy's got like three million dollars i think one meal across every
platform and i'm like bro everybody we're not gonna like pivot from open sea magic to use your
freaking platform and what is always insane is like there's no valuation to this token they
just like paste any amounts behind the token one mil whatever and like people start creating
content bro none of these guys no no no they've said one million dollars worth dude they've said
yeah that's what i mean there's no assurance that one million tokens yeah there's no assurance the
one million dollars won't be like 200k once once the TGE, right? Of course.
Yeah, yeah.
We all know that.
We all know that.
But, you know, it was a million at one point.
But I think inadvertently you actually got them a bunch of UA this morning by saying that the token is dropping with no TGE.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
I just, it has made me reconsider a lot of life choices at the moment. And I'm kind of with Kook in the sense that, like,
it's great for people to be able to go use their account to pick up a paycheck.
Like, it makes fucking total sense.
And why wouldn't you go farm it if you needed to?
But in terms of value coming out of it, I'm starting to get a little bit, I'm just starting to realize
this the death spiral that we are all in here. And it's absolutely no wonder we're all having
a conversation about being bored and restless right now.
Yeah, bro. It's like, I'm not hating the user, right? The user is smart. Like, get your money.
It's like in DeFi. I'll go farm some rug protocol and I'll get the fuck out of there. And I'm like,
haha, the guys who launched this are dumb. This thing's obviously going to die. Like,
I just don't know why there's so many InfoFi platforms. The business model clearly doesn't
really work. And I think Kaido will be the last one standing. But like the user who goes in and
pillages it for a couple bucks like cool get your
money you know not hating on that one of the things one sorry to cut across you one of the
things that i thought was actually quite decent though about the way that the wall chain space
one is being applied it just happens to be a fucking horrible platform is that you you obviously
get like you know your place on the leaderboard because of the
mindshare you're able to create, but it's your use of the platform that creates multipliers
of that mindshare. And so, you know, somebody with significantly less mindshare who's just
using the platform a lot will pick up more leaderboard points. And so that feels like a good development
because I would say that by using a platform a lot,
you are intentionally or not in a position
where you can create better content
than the slop of grabbing a fucking white paper
and pushing it through an LLM
and then asking it to create you 20 posts that you drop fucking one an hour.
I actually do like that because I think 99% of InfoFi accounts
don't even interact with crypto.
They don't use it.
Totally agree.
That's actually cool.
Yeah, so you can get Mindshare for talking about space, but if you go and use the platform and farm it and, you know, go up the ranks internally on their platform, that adds a multiplier to the leaderboard on the Wallchain leaderboard there, which I think is clever, it's a bad example product that's the first example that I've
seen. If someone nails that and actually has a platform that I'd like to use, then I think
that would be a really good thing.
I don't hate on anyone in this moment. Get your fucking money and don't gamble. I think
I say this every day. When it's like this, when people are bored, this is where you heard
the stories of, oh bro bro, I was bored.
I put 2K into the casino and then I put another 20K.
And then before I knew it, all my fucking money is gone.
And then it pumps and you're just fucked.
So please.
But that's actually a better use of money than buying a Hyper NFT.
I bought a Hyper NFT one week ago and we're down like 50k in the last two weeks.
It's crazy.
I might buy another one.
I would rather spend that money
on some
on like a casino.
I might buy another one.
There is a natural remedy
to that wear
which I think is
stop buying fucking NFTs.
Wait, wait.
How much are they worth now?
Because I bought some
like
it was a lot longer
than a week ago.
I got it.
I'm probably down 100k on these fucking things.
They're down only.
They're down only.
Right now they are 12.5k.
Right now they are 12.5k.
I bought it 27.
Cia, I think, bought it 26.
And they just keep dropping.
The worst thing is, it's not just flopping.
It's not just flopping.
Hype USD also goes down down so it's like you get
the worst out of both worlds you get the worst out of nfts which is low price being down and the
worst out of crypto now with hype really not doing well in the last two weeks that's crazy
yeah you know it sort of feels like to me um i'm gonna pull out the market psychology chart
as we all do about
15 times a week i'm starting to feel like we're getting closer to that depression stage
at the market psychology cycle um i don't know how it could get much worse and there's not much
denial there's not really any any more denial yeah there is no denial we all accept it like
it's over right um i just put our thread
there saying like look the worst thing you can do is leave i did last time biggest mistake of my
life i could have made so much money if i just stayed around i feel like if we all just keep
pushing keep tweeting keep building our socials i mean some of us are bigger than others we'll
we'll print in the next cycle just try not to lose all your money gambling and buying meme coins and shit.
Yeah, it's weird because Bitcoin is holding up quite well.
Bitcoin is not that...
It's alt.
Alts are getting fucking ass raped.
My biggest bag is Bitcoin.
So that's why I say I'm doing quite well financially.
It's just boring.
It's very boring.
Yeah.
Stack cash.
One of the most important things I think I've done for myself in the last few months was save one year of rent in cash in the bank.
Not going to touch it, right?
So I'm not going to go homeless for at least one year.
I can just lock in.
And I feel like most people should do that.
Dude, I did exactly the same thing,
Ethan.
I sold that fucking monkey JPEG.
Yeah.
Turned it to USD and fucking put it,
just stuck it in a fucking ledger and put it out the way.
Like,
and it's,
and it was actually annoyingly banned.
It's kind of advice,
which was exactly this,
like fucking,
just don't,
don't lose all your chips and be told you've
got to leave the table like you know just Ben or you get a nice tax write off with the
followers up here so thanks Benjamin for the aura from I never tell my friends directly
sell or buy I never do that but I did I hinted it I hinted at Ben you basically said Ben sell
the fucking ape without saying I can't remember what I messaged you I was like fuck what did I. You said did you sell the ape yet? Yeah. And I said oh no not yet.
Yeah he said sell the ape buy the puppets and you bought the puppets. I did a cook. You know cook sometimes
like when he wants to say something without saying it he does like four question marks.
Marks, you know, like in your tweets, when you do like four question marks,
You know like in your tweets when you do like four question marks and basically saying like
you're basically saying like, are you retarded or no?
And I always, I spam question marks or exclamation marks.
Like I never use just one ever.
I just like go, I feel like it puts emphasis, bro.
Yo, you see, you'll see a lot of people write like me, bro.
I taught most of these motherfuckers how to write.
No, it's good.
It's like, because I think I can't remember, but I think I sent Benjamin, like,
did you sell the ape? Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark. You did. Yeah, you put some urgency on it's good. It's like because I think I can't remember but I think I sent Benjamin like did you sell the ape? Question mark, question mark, question mark, question mark.
You did.
You put some urgency on it, bro. You're like putting urgency on it. DGENs will start to freak out. Like that's why I worked so hard.
Literally within two days of doing it, the floor dipped another two ETH and ETH dipped another fucking 800 bucks. So it was a master class, to be honest i mean i'm still i was still down but
just not not as down and like ethan says the money in the bank like we can still fucking
press buttons here and see what happens and if we do get like i'm hearing from just about everyone
who's been to fucking abu dhabi in the last week uh a january absolute full send pump they will be wrong don't listen to these
are you crazy because they said that it means that it's going to be longer that's i don't
even want to hear that i know that makes me bearish no the guys the conference boys flying
around in the desert like sorry they're going to be wrong dude like i wish that they were just
depressed and think it's going to go down another 50%. Then I'd be bullish. Well, sadly, they don't. They all think now is
accumulation point. I know a guy on the Binance trading team. He's a multi-millionaire guy. I
won't name drop him. But he told me January, February, Binance is going to cry the shit out
of the market and send it. Yeah, I heard exactly the same thing this morning, Ethan.
Oh, dear.
That's not good.
That makes me bearish.
Someone asked that XBT, he'll know.
Yeah, the fact that they are leaking that
and, like, leaking it to someone like me,
who is a nobody,
like, would say they're just trying to make everyone
get ready for that crime season.
Yeah, they're going to dump before Christmas.
And then they're going to dump everyone.
Before Christmas.
It's going to be the inverse of last year, the inverse of last cycle.
No, I don't know what the fuck's going to happen.
It'd be funny if it was, though.
I don't know shit about fuck.
There's this guy on YouTube.
I don't know if you guys seen him.
Into the Cryptoverse.
Benjamin Cohen.
I've followed him for a long time.
And he says this thing which i really
like it's my favorite phrase that he has it's live to fight another day um don't fucking lose
everything just make sure you're you're around i'm sure that thing was cooler about a thousand
years ago run the internet out link button stuff probably yeah like i'm gonna co-host Cook
it was definitely more important
to live another day when we were fighting with swords
or in World War 2 or something
I would definitely agree to that
now we're just tweeting and hitting fucking buttons
it's so cool
but yeah
press the wrong button
you guys are getting it wrong
if you blow your capital and you have no capital,
then you can't even participate in a rebound.
So it's actually very important.
Yeah.
To be fair, I'd rather die than go back to a 9-5 like a year ago.
I do agree with that too.
Yeah.
Like, oh my God.
I do agree with that.
Like, oh dude, I had such a soldier.
It was a good job.
Like, it's not a low quote, but it was, dude, I hated it. Like, fucking hope this had such a soldier. It was a good job. Like it's not a low but it was dude I hated it like fucking hope this email finds you well, but did you have a chance to
I hate that shit, but it's I really hate it
It's funny cuz we everyone should turn the 9 to 5 and I and I get why but we probably spend more time than 9 to 5 now though
Yeah, yeah, but but now like it's at least it's enjoyable. You don't have to yeah
Yeah, so it's not about the time
It's about what's allocated or it's being done in the time because everyone complains about
the nine to five and shit well it's like well the alternative is to probably spend 12 to 12 within
a five-year period of time um unlock massive things it's it's just a culture like someone
breathing over your shoulder yeah that stuff sucks oh like hey did you have a chance to uh
finish the report like fuck you?
I'm gonna be honest. I think I think like low-level bank culture is the worst culture I've ever seen and maybe kukin jump on this
too, but like low-level bank culture is the fucking worst
ever dude, especially like in the the West bad bad
Yeah, I'd rather even if I even if I went to zero I would do that would be homeless
I would find a way I would get a phone and fucking post on TikTok
Just farm info-fi surely, that's what you would do
Fucking info-fi trenches
Easy peasy
Oh shit
Yo, Pollo
I tried to get you up for a wear full stage but actually I'm not gonna lie I message Andrew
Andrew nuke someone so we can get Pollo up here Oh wait wait a fucking out me you bastard it was you it wasn't me yeah it was me it was me
no no no i'm already up there bro fine he's already here
what i can see you listen there that's fine no i'm just listening in whilst writing an essay this is
uh this is interesting.
I don't know what stage of a cyclist is when everyone's just complaining about other things
rather than focusing on their...
Boy, I'll be honest, how much of that article has chat to be written?
Oh, bro, well, this is a thing.
So pretty much all of it, right?
But when I say pretty much all of it, I mean as in the foundation.
And then it'll be me researching my own shit.
But as a foundation and format and structure of it all, why wouldn't I use...
Yeah, when you're submitting that stuff, the profs checking that you're an AI checker or something, that you're doing that?
Or they don't give a fuck?
Where are we at with that?
Yeah, no, of course.
They use this...
There's a thing called Turn It in which has like a built-in
ai checker so i'd be honest tell them to grow up uh the dumbest thing that happened when i was in
school fucking elementary school whatever was like they would literally give us i get why they did
this to an extent but like in higher i guess higher level math education they wouldn't let
use calculators it's like you're making my life more difficult i get you i'm gonna have the basics
down but my life's being tremendously more difficult i'm spending more time on this fucking test
give me the fucking calculator i get why they do it in the early stages to develop that that muscle
and that twitch but like after after a certain period of time and you get the basics down
it just becomes counterproductive yeah i mean for me it's just gives me a basis and i'll just
go research on top of it and then you know it isn't too difficult it's
more it's more so just time consuming just going back and checking everything and this and that
it just takes a while it's not none of the stuff I'm researching or doing is is remotely difficult
it just takes a while to do you know like a four thousand word essay three and a half thousand
word essay five thousand word essay you know It just fucking takes a long time.
And I'd rather be up here
with my internet friends
talking about why InfoFi has ruined crypto.
Yeah.
4,000-word essay sounds like shit,
I'm going to be honest.
Yeah, I don't know.
If I got four of them due...
Well, I got two due within the next week
and then the other two due in a month.
The crazy thing is
we've probably written like 4,000, even 2,000 word tweets
and that'll get done within like fucking 10, 15 minutes.
But to do an essay, buddy, you can pay me enough.
I know.
It has to be academic and this and that.
It has to be referenced appropriately.
I'm like, fucking hell, man.
Can you imagine if you had to like reference every time you stole somebody's tweet?
That's funny.
That's actually kind of funny.
That would be the worst.
That would be the worst thing ever so what type of woke lgbt propaganda
are they making you write about all universities are just indoctrination centers so i assume it's
some really so this is actually so just on this so it's actually really interesting i was talking
to my dad about this right so about i want to say at least 60 percent of my course is chinese students right because they
pay four times as much um to do the same degree as me right so it makes sense to have more of them
um none of them speak any english right and so i get put in groups like if i have like
compulsory group projects where i can't pick my own group i get put in groups with these guys
who like respectfully just can't speak english right and then we get like graded on our presenting skills and this that the other so obviously we do awfully but why is my
my grade that I'm getting uh based on people who can't speak English and I'm paying ludicrous
amounts of money for this degree anyway and on top of that so that was last year I had to do an
exam again because I missed the first one for personal reasons.
Went to this reset, right?
And I think there was one other English person in there.
And there must have been about like a few hundred Chinese kids in there.
And I was sat next to this girl, right?
Two and a half hour exam.
I shit you not.
She wrote two lines the entire time, right?
Literally wrote two lines.
And I've seen her
again at university i'm like how on earth did she pass bro money figure it out dude go go yeah
exactly bro but this thing it's like actually like the most corrupt shit ever and everybody
just turns a blind eye to it because they're paying fucking money it's nuts here in toronto
and shit i wonder who's fucking buying those ghost condos kook yeah and i wrote i wrote like an insanely long email probably on the fucking test
too which is crazy uh yeah yeah i wrote i wrote like an insanely long email it's called money
dude basically saying like how is this at all like i'm paying good money for my degree and then
his his comeback was oh yeah we like people to be able to work like a variety of different
like in terms of the exchange students like they get fucking rinsed when they come over here like
i think like they're like they're staying like their ticket to do like school here like like
their whatever you want to call their tuition fees is like way so much higher than what like
the native students here have to do it's it's literally fucking crime kook i have a question
for you and like with what you said about the like the university propaganda camps i 100 agree with you i find that people not blanket
statement but like some people that have their master's degree are a lot more fucking woke than
people that don't and they end up getting worse jobs after it too which is funny as fuck
yeah academia is the it's is the central point that the woke
ideology came out of. The longer
you're in academia, the more woke you are.
It's a complete
indoctrination camp.
The woke mindset, like,
woke is just Marxism, like,
re-packaged.
Marxism was heavily
academic. We're just reaching late stage Marxism round two
This is the funniest thing all around campus. There's like Marxism like posters pop everywhere and like join
Join the Sheffield communist group. I'm like, bro. This is like actually hilarious. I was insane
Believe in Marxism until they make money then they flip oh this is well yeah i mean
the funniest thing is that like you said right like poi was talking about how international
students pay four times as much they don't have to do anything whatever like the the indoctrination
center itself is a vicious for-profit business and they all are and they're training marxists
like it's just the whole thing is a paradox like it's it's insane oh dude i had this friend in sweden he was based he went to a
university within one year he's a vegetarian like fucking communist i don't know i like to think i'm
capable of thinking for myself without you know i mean i spend most of my time here anyway so
university doesn't really get too much that's a shot boy oh watch yourself
bro like i went to school and you seem fine and there's probably still value in going to school
if you're not like completely malleable and you'll just turn into like a woke gay communist
um but like you know to a 10 year old would you be like oh oh god i know i'm actually scared for
like 10 years like i think you should kids now like school's got to be out like at least that type of school in 10 20 years like
what is it going to be it's just a lgbtq camp bro like yeah but if they're homeschooled they
become retarded as well so like that's talking about university yeah oh university you said 10
all right my bad this is the thing about a 10 year old now would you have in your plan for them to go
to university in 15 years or whatever it is?
10 years?
No, I just want them to learn how to code.
Yeah, exactly.
There's different types of learning, right?
Obviously, you need early school for sure.
But post-secondary has just become this insane Marxist gay camp.
It's just nuts, bro.
I don't know.
It's crazy.
School's going to be out.
In 20 years, universities will have to be gone because I don't know it's crazy school's gonna be out like in 20 years universities will have to be gone
because I don't think that
the public will keep them alive
sorry just to
touch back on what someone said there
whoever fucking said
code
like 10 years
bro I'd be surprised
if you need code
in a fucking
no you're still gonna need code
trust
come on
I agree with both of you.
You're not going to need it as much,
but there are some...
I wish.
Dude, trust me.
All of my peers,
all the other founders
who are building stuff,
they all wish that was the case.
Trust.
I think, Jordan,
it's like you might not need
to write as much,
but having the understanding...
No, you're not going to need to write as much, but having the understanding. No, you don't need to write as much.
Understanding code is a huge unlock.
Yeah, the thing is with the AI.
It's the debugging of it.
Correct, yeah.
You'll get a Vercel app, but securing it, connecting it properly,
connecting APIs.
There's so many little factors to building a tech company that,
now, you know, one engineer can do the job of 10 with AI,
but you still need an engineer.
Like, the value of code is still big if you're a good programmer.
I mean, everything is code.
I mean, even humans.
How about that?
I'm in the middle.
I'm in the middle.
Dude, fucking everything we do are, like, if-else statements.
If horny and hasn't eaten for nine hours, order food and have sex.
Like that's an if-else statement.
I like your mind goes there.
Well, I mean, that's most men, right?
Including myself.
But if it wasn't programming, then it would be something in robotics.
Whether that means actually helping design them
repair them uh managing them robotics like you know because because when we design and repair
each other within a decade once there's 10 million optimuses they're just going to be
self-sufficient bro agi in all their heads 10 years the world's gonna be way different yes but there's
still gonna be somewhat like the problem with humanity is there's still legal like the idea
of law still exists and there's gonna need to be some human guy who signs off and be like oh yeah
you know these robots are you know it's the same thing as like you know uh being a mechanic for a
plane like you get paid a fuck ton of money to be a mechanic for planes,
but there's still a human, you know,
that slides off on shit.
I want it to be, like, real steel.
That's one of, like, the best films ever.
I want that to be...
The one where they box each other?
Yeah, but, like, not like these weird nerdy ones
that we have now.
It's like a little robot that, like, crashes in.
No, I want to see...
No, dude, there's one in China
that's coming out that looks badass.
Yeah, I want to see an actual, like,
some guy who's built this fucking monster world. It's so funny you said this shit.
It was a throwaway video, because what I do is I just record videos while I'm streaming.
Like, I turn them into clips, right?
I posted a video last night of me.
It's a 15-second clip of me on Instagram and TikTok talking about a new robot in japan that looks like a fucking gundam it's got like over a quarter million views like while i was sleeping because
people are so interested in this robot shit yeah it's sick but i can imagine like a fucking
binance's like fighter robot for having a scrap with like coin bases or something like bro that'd
be like unbelievable entity dude uh i can believe
it the guy is willing to commit 10 10 he will absolutely have his own yeah exactly well i don't
know why it isn't a thing already and you can like you can use these prediction markets now to like
bet on the outcome oh my fucking god it's not betting it's not betting that's the that's the
way this world is going right it's actually going to be, like, the most brain rot, like... If you want to know where everything's going to go...
I can't wait for it, personally.
I'm excited.
Just play Cyberpunk 2077 if you want to know what the future is...
Because, like, the more...
The further in we go, it almost feels like that game is a documentary and not a joke.
Idiocracy, bro.
The world is going to be idiocracy.
We're already moving there.
You guys probably haven't seen this movie.
Come on.
Someone's seen it.
I've seen it.
I've seen the movie.
How do you get it?
There's one public company in idiocracy.
Like the MagSav.
It's Brando or something.
Brando.
Brando, yeah.
The plants crave Brando.
Yeah, it's a fucking energy drink or some shit.
Yeah, it's basically their version of Gatorade and they use it for everything.
How long will it take to like, say you want to start learning code with the rage at which like everything is advancing.
Like what goes through my mind is how long will it take to actually catch up for someone that is just learning and like the brackets. If're asking how long it's gonna take you're not serious about it and you shouldn't even bother
it's a redundant way to tell someone's entire hey girl good morning good morning girl how are you
no but i just do things you can literally imagine being curl son good morning dad you're a loser go to school
i am an you know why i'm successful because i am an brother it doesn't work any other way
your son is either going to be a very successful guy that needs therapy
or no or he's going to kill his family yeah i actually meant actually meant the knowledge
bracket i did not mean i did not you know i'm not saying don't like don't like chase after it
or whatever but i'm saying like what do you think the knowledge bracket would be i understand what
you're asking bro what i'm telling you is if you ask that question you're not gonna do it
yeah that's right i think many times I ask the question,
Oh, how much money is it gonna take to go to space?
I'm not in fucking space, brother.
That's all I'm trying to tell you.
Yeah, no, that's real. And it's also like, I don't know.
I mean, you can say one year, but
some people will do one year every day,
but they'll do like 20 minutes. That's not the same as
being obsessed and doing like fucking
all day every day. Correct.
Kuro! GMm that was pretty
much is there even a final state where you know it probably not right probably not people that
are actually good at it are like oh you're always learning 100 yo sorry kuro what did you say dude
i'm always learning about how stupid i am that's's the power of growing. Yeah, well, that's because you're competing with yourself.
You're not fucking competing with some other recon.
Oh, no, no.
No, no.
The problem is I am competing with people far smarter than me,
and I realize how out of depth I am,
and then I have to fucking catch up.
Well, that's going to be a hindrance to your progress
because you never compete with anyone else.
You only ever compete with yourself.
Yeah, it's Davidid goggins gm curl i i can say this because i just got an allocation to a fucking supercar that's why i'm being so cocky today you got an ally what does that mean an ally
you own part of a supercar porsche supercar i can buy it i don't have to wait in line bro
i yo bro i'm feeling myself today
I'm not well the good news is there's so many poor people in America that the line will continue to get shorter so
No, I fucking I fucking love this car. I like that energy dude. This is the highest testosterone Twitter space
We've had in probably all year so yeah, you mean after some of your quotes recently bandit
What the fuck do you mean oh
bandit i have actually really wait i have really good news for bandit like dead like dead ass
they apparently are solving hair regrowth by 2027 i'm not that you saw that shit i'm not even that
bad dude i think it doesn't matter if you're that bad like and by the way it's made by some italian
so you know this shit's gonna work he. He's pretty handsome, to be honest.
Yeah, no, I'm not saying...
Dude, you can be bald and beautiful.
I'm not saying that.
You've always talked about growing hair.
This is like the ultimate rug that, for decades,
they're always like, oh, we got the cure for baldness,
and then it's like, nah, it didn't work.
So I'm skeptical.
Yeah, of course, yeah, you should be.
And they're not calling it an all-in cure,
but it's a public pharma company called Cosmo,
which is, I think, like an Italian company.
They're in phase three trials.
They had, I guess, like 1,500 participants,
and now they're working to potentially get FDA approval.
And if they get FDA approval,
then it comes to market in about two years.
I fucking love capitalism. Let's go. Good. Innovate.
I mean it's better than any of the other options.
How much is it? How much is the commercial product?
Is there any involvement?
It's not even... They're not even there yet.
You can't even... Yeah, okay.
It's in phase three trial which... I'm not a doctor or in medicine,
but apparently that's a good thing.
And they're confident enough that they put out all the research
or at least close enough to it.
And their stock jumped significantly.
Yeah, it pumped like 40%.
But to be honest, like, those are low numbers
because if they actually are the best solution
for hair regrowth, like, that would be, you know,
a bigger opportunity than a 40% jump.
Like, I would think, like, double or triple your price.
Because, like, you know, like, look, I'm 30.
If you tell me this shit works, like, my hair's thing, look, I'm 30. If you tell me this shit works, like, my hair's thin.
Absolutely, I'm buying that shit.
So, like, there's millions of people in, you know, in their 30s, 40s, 50s who buy it.
So, I don't know.
I'm watching it because I was thinking about getting into the stock just because, you know, there's a small potential.
It's real.
Good shit.
Kuro, other than the Good shit, um, Kuro
Other than the supercar, like what are you up to? Dude, you went on space this far, dude, I hosted with Birding yesterday
Then I saw you went on Alpha space and now you're here already
He doesn't sleep. He sleeps like two hours a day. It's actually insane
Yeah, that's so unhealthy. You gotta put me on that bone broth or whatever you said you were taking
I'm I woke up pissed today cuz i slept for because i have this dude by the way the aura ring
both a blessing and a curse because now i treat my sleep like a fucking video game which is good
because i actually sleep better for whatever reason because i'm competitive with my sleep
but when you when you don't hit your score get pissed. I only got five hours and 54 minutes today.
And I'm like, fuck, I got calls at 830.
Now I'm going to have to fucking think about this all day.
And the other day I had eight hours and I was feeling all fucking good about myself.
So I'm just annoyed.
That's a good problem to have, to be fair.
Like you said, it's a good thing.
Yeah, I don't know, Kuro.
Are you just doing spaces 24-7 now?
Oh, you're rugging.
He said, mind your own fucking business.
Yeah, he's rugging.
Fuck.
He said.
He'll be back.
He's requesting again already.
Did you guys see Bonnie Blue is going to go to jail in Indonesia for like 15 years?
Yeah, she's a retard.
Oh my...
Did you see the image of her face?
She looks like she's fucking demon possessed by like...
Yeah, her eyes are fucked.
I have seen a few videos and she is definitely demon possessed.
Oh my fucking...
Dude, I don't know.
If you compare old photos of her versus now like she's it's
not just random when she was a man you guys don't know that whole rumor that
she's a she's a woman of formerly a man sex changed anyway which I could believe
to be honest because no no normal woman has her level of sex drive.
What happened with her getting arrested, kook?
What was it for?
Was she being retarded?
I think she had like minors in Bali.
Was it kook?
No, no, no.
What the fuck?
Yeah, she was like hitting on fucking grooming.
No, she had her own version of a bang bus,
and it's literally illegal in Indonesia to be doing that.
And they take that shit.
It's that simple.
She's just a retard.
An idiot.
Yeah, like, have you ever...
There's a movie called Broke Down Palace.
Like, some of these countries, like, these, like,
South Asian countries will put you in jail for life
for, like, having half a joint.
Like, they're pretty strict.
And so it's illegal to like make pornography in indonesia
and she hasn't been sentenced yet but she got arrested and the maximum penalty or something
is 15 years the reality of this is the reality of this though is she'll probably get out scot-free
because indonesia is a poor country and she has enough money she can buy her way out because of
corruption so i mean bro they've put a lot a lot of Australians in jail for life for like minimal amounts of drugs.
Like they, this is like a bit different than that. I think.
You think that she can't buy her way out?
I don't think that they would be letting her buy her way out necessarily. I'm not saying what's
going to happen for sure. I'm just saying in a lot of cases, you should look up what Indonesia
has done
against foreigners for different types of offenses.
Well, I mean, could she buy her way to a super reduced sentence?
Execution to drug smuggling is a real thing in Indonesia.
Well, drug smuggling is definitely more serious than making porn.
Well, I don't know.
You're not in Indonesia.
You don't know how they look at it, bro.
Like, I just...
Okay, well, all right, fine.
That's fair.
It's already Muslim countries. That's fair. I'm making... That's fair. Yeah, well. You don't know how they look at it, bro. Okay, well, I'm fine. That's fair.
That's fair.
A lot of assumptions coming out of this stage.
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I felt like that was a reasonable assumption,
but you're right.
I'm not from Indonesia.
I don't know if these things are... Bro, you're acting like she got caught in Tel Aviv, bro.
I don't know how accurate this is.
This might be fake news,
but I pinned Bonnie Blue facing 15 years in prison
for grooming children in Bali.
But you guys are saying it's just the bang bus stuff
I didn't hear about the grooming children
Yeah, it's because making pornography is illegal, that's like the charge
Okay
Well if she actually groomed children then she can stay there for 15 years
Yeah, that's fucking insane
Can we just take a moment to look at that photo of her?
Like you know when they say in the bible like fucking the spirit of jezebel beelzebub like fucking demons in a human that's that's what it's talking about like she
looks fucking she's letting trains of hundreds of men in a 12-hour period ram her like did you
if that didn't convince you she was already a bad person i don't know what fucking look at the face
like look at the like she looks like yeah there's nothing behind the eyes like her eyes are Lily soulless like it's like
Yeah, yeah, it's very scary. I
Think she just looks like a white woman. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no her eyes are like dead dude
Her eyes are dead. Yeah, like look at her
Her lawyer is gonna fight it by saying that she saved many people many other women from getting raped
That's a terrible argument
to get out of this
I don't know that seems like a horrible
argument that seems like
a better call Saul type of argument
shit
who else is she going to get to represent her
oh wait
Kuro
did you guys watch the Diddy documentary or no
oh yeah I did
Diddy is a fucking
horrible guy, man.
Dude, on a serious
note, if you guys have not watched the documentary,
it's worth the watch. You could probably
do it in two days. It's like four episodes. It's
fucking nuts. Can you give us the highlights?
I haven't seen it, but I'm really interested.
It's nuts.
Give us some examples.
I'm very interested.
Everything that they said in the court
thing that they alleged that he did,
he definitely fucking did it.
This motherfucker has a fucking
has a voodoo deity tattooed
on his back.
You know what that voodoo deity is?
It's the protector of women and children.
Guess who he violated?
Women and children. He is cooked. To some extent, though, 50 is the protector of women and children. Guess who he violated? Women and children. He is
cooked. To some extent, though, 50 is
the goat, though. 50 is
the goat, though, to some extent. That's fucked.
Cook, I'll put it to you this way. I'll let you watch it, but
50 pretty much coordinated the documentary.
Some of the footage
the Diddy team didn't know that he
had, that was actually from a little bit
four or five months ago, that he threw
into the doc from footage that, like, he got off of friends or people that he knew and all that stuff diddy didn't know
that he had that footage he ran the dock he won he wanted an interview on abc abc is one of the
only news outlets in the states allegedly that allegedly canadian i don't know this allegedly
that people were saying that the prisons can only see inmates can watch so he literally talked about the
diddy documentary on abc in front of the one of the only news outlets that the jail the jailbirds
whatever you want to call it in the states can watch talk about the documentary and diddy had
no idea it was going live he's so fucking mad he's like it's impressive for decades 50 cents
been the king of trolling dude he's actually i did hear that he did this this abc thing and yeah
50 is a genius when it comes to trolling bro he's the most petty guy so imagine having an op that is
willing to make a netflix documentary about you fuck yep and then he and then he posted yesterday
on insta uh the photo of uh what was it jay-z i will never cross that man i never want to make
50 send my enemy yeah it's it's pretty impressive, to be honest.
And then Diddy sent him, I think,
funeral flowers a few days ago.
Well, to be fair, though,
this guy's a fucking piece of shit devil.
Diddy sent him funeral flowers?
Funeral flowers.
And then Fiddy posted it on his Insta two days ago.
Where can I watch this, Andrew?
If I want to watch this, is it on Netflix?
It's on Netflix.
Yeah, it's on Netflix.
Honestly, I'm not so much in the drama stuff,
but it's really netflix yeah it's on netflix honestly like i'm not so much in the drama stuff but it's really good to watch see like what narcissism mixed with like sociopathic tendencies and like the ability to not have any grace from god at all gives you it's fucking incredible
and like for what it's worth by the way i think tupac was was taken out by by like diddy in my
opinion like that's very obvious now it It's very obvious. And Biggie.
Everybody, yeah.
It's always been,
that's a big conspiracy Diddy did it all.
But like,
now I'm very interested
in the Diddy and 50 Cent beef, man.
He's sending him funeral flowers.
50 Cent's probably not scared.
That dude's been
fucking strapped multiple times.
He's definitely not scared.
Don't give a shit.
But like,
still,
very interesting.
Crazy shit. But um, goddamn god damn dude that you know this is why like libs should not run society because like the problem like the the
thing that makes them sometimes great but also bad is they believe every human has a path to
redemption and i don't believe that.
I think there are some people who are just so fucking evil,
the best possible thing that you can do in society is to just kill them.
Just eliminate them from the gene pool.
Like, there's some people who are irredeemable.
I think Diddy is probably one of those people.
Yeah, his father, by the way, Coog, Diddy's father,
who was a gangster or whatever rapper,
he was allegedly friends with Frank Lucas.
Yeah, so there's a whole other rabbit hole to go down, who his father was,
and the fact that Diddy is a byproduct of his mom and his father,
and the stuff that his mom exposed him to at her early age in the documentary
was not great for his well-being long-term, obviously obviously just a pure spawn of satan when is he getting out uh i think
it's i think the curl is what four years or something three years or something they said
or something like that yeah so he'll be out he'll be out i mean if they don't they don't take him
out now he'll be out i'm pretty sure that means he'll be out in the next few months because he's
already served a few of those years during the trial which by law you have sure that means he'll be out in the next few months because he's already served a few of those years during the trial,
which by law you have to.
That means that you add those credits,
which means he's probably out next year.
That's fucking crazy.
He's going to drop an album.
He killed Biggie, bro.
Yeah, he killed Biggie for sure, 100%.
He should, yeah.
That's why I never liked him because when I was there.
Damn, he's killing all the good artists.
Can he kill some of the bad ones?
He took out Tupac when he was 25, bro.
You know how young that is?
Can I...
Just so I understand,
because I don't know black culture that well.
Why did he...
Why did people hate Tupac?
That comes as a surprise.
Bro, you're from the UK.
You guys have like three black people.
Shut up.
Bro, I didn't know the whole story
until i seen
what he did was he uh he got tupac killed by paying some fucking guys from california
and then one of the guys that got the money that was supposed to be the other guy never paid the
other guy so the guy that's still alive is the guy that was hired to do the hit and then on
the other end when it comes to biggie he forced biggie to stay in la instead of doing his london
show and then biggie ended up getting uh killed by the rivals of tupac that's what i understood
from what i saw yep yep the hit so i I get all that, but like, why?
Like, what was the reason? He was jealous,
Johnny. He was jealous. No, that's it?
No, it's just the music was so fucking
good that he just... He was jealous, yeah.
He was so jealous of Biggie because, like,
if you look at what he did,
he didn't even pay for Biggie's funeral.
Biggie's estate paid for his funeral, bro.
That's how much he hated him.
Yeah, and beginning a lot
like according to doc crew like back me on this like they said that diddy was like a real i really
trash rapper at the beginning and like a lot of a lot of it was like ghost written obviously as
many are but he had to like actually work at the craft where some of those guys got it naturally
and he was jealous of like their innate talent so he took them out to avoid the competition and what
curio said the total hit was a million bucks and because he only hit one out of two of them the payout was
500k and did he actually put that lily in a song i forgot what song it was but like he literally
put it in a song uh that like i'm gonna drop a million on your head or something like that and
erase you or something like that girl what's the what's the song reference whatever the fuck it was
that is the song yeah yeah yeah what's this what's the
deal with all these rappers and just like i don't know giving giving it they're like i killed this
guy at the 7 11 at 7 p.m on august 3rd and i do it again like why why are you putting all your crimes
in the rap bro like i don't know i think it's a thing in their country i have to fucking have you
know if you never thought i feel like it would be hilarious to be one of their lawyers.
No like, oh, I've just listened to your song for fuck's sake.
Like we have an ongoing case, you cannot be talking about that.
I strangled that bitch at the hotel on Fifth Avenue at 5pm.
I saw the bellhop, his name was Tony, and Tony said here are the keys.
His name was Tony Pilsain.
What is this, a new NBA Youngboy song?
No, yeah, I'm saying like, they're just like, it's not even a rap, they just, it's not even a rap, they just like, they're just reading on a testimony.
Yeah, it's mad, YNW Melly's like Murder My Mind.
What did he do?
He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like,
He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even like, He's like, I didn't even best friends yeah bro he was i didn't i didn't
mean to shoot like like like yo i know i'm black but i always see black people writing fucking uh
well i'm not really that black but i'm more of a carlton but like fucking yo bro i always see
these guys like yo free this guy i'm like him? He fucking murdered his friends in cold blood.
What do you mean? Dude, those memes fucking kill
me every time where it's like,
free my boy Tony and Tony looks
like a fucking nutjob.
He has a triple nutjob.
Tony doesn't look like
he should be free.
Free my boy Tony and he looks like
a fucking mass murderer with his eyes
Like covered in blood
You know
Bonnie boot and I'm just kidding look like that shit. I think that would be a huge
Evie plus play for society if she gets locked up. No gonna but we have some new people. I need to pass it around a bit. Keiko.
Yeah, 6-7.
6-7, bro.
All right, great.
You lost your privileges to talk.
You watching any DD documentaries or what's up?
Nah.
Nah, I didn't.
Look, very interesting conversation.
And yeah, Spaces just save us, bro bro it's like uh will you host the web
three lounge later today or yeah yeah yeah probably actually we're gonna have a lot of
space i mean this one was like you were gonna go on a date no no no um so like uh we're still
we're still for coffee tonight right i think if you do it i don't know too much in the beginning
i think like once a week is okay.
Otherwise you're going to fucking hate each other.
He just wants his space, Kekov.
Yeah, he just wants his space off.
We'll have spaces for like, I mean, we're going to have this one, then Web3 launch like shortly after.
And then Birdin is hosting one too as well.
So like you'll have...
Man, it's literally fucking a digital spaces now.
So like, what do you guys talk about for like,
that's a lot of hours.
I don't know.
I mean, now we're here
fucking talking about Diddy and...
No, I know because it's
the morning, but like,
do you guys talk about
trades and stuff or like...
You join the spaces.
You do.
You really joined me.
No, don't be done.
I'll tell you some ones I traded.
You show me one trade,
we'll talk about it
because there's fucking...
Yeah, all right.
Nothing going on.
Here's a hilarious meme.
That fucking crazy Asian chick who thinks everyone's sitting on her but she's like a three you know i'm talking about yeah yeah so so someone made a meme called web3bd with her face on it and
i couldn't stop laughing so i bought that shit at like 50k and i sold it at 300.
don't know the crazy thing is is that like the relationship part of Twitter found out she
made that fucking tweet, I think a couple of days ago.
I know, dude.
She's getting cooked.
She's getting cooked.
They're like, dude, like whole inflation's insane.
It's actually to a point where I kind of feel bad for her because it got so viral that it
made it on a popular Facebook forum.
Oh my God.
Yeah, buddy.
LinkedIn's next. Corporate dating is next, eh? That's forum. Oh my god. Yeah, link. Yeah, buddy LinkedIn's next corporate dating is next day
That's next. Yeah, the LinkedIn side is that a thing
Like it is a woman on on like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Dude, if I can see his bathing all of normal
He also have a shoe switch with his fucking
Oh, he always does that though. This one's way more important. Yeah
Can someone explain to me this BD thing? Did see the okay yeah here i got you yeah can you explain this to me because
do you know what a lol do you know what a lol cow is a lol cow okay all right so internet
is that like an asian way of pronouncing local no but that's funny uh so like in in internet
culture a lol cow is when you find someone who's so delusional and unaware of who they are and their surroundings that they say really dumb and hilarious shit, and you make fun of them.
And so I'm a big fan of investing in tokens around lol cows, which is like, I would argue White Whale is also a lol cow, but a rich one, okay?
So it's a little bit different because he just says really retarded shit, but he's a smart trader, right?
So this girl, Web3 Jess,
she starts a Web3 gaming company,
already not a good start,
called Block Us.
And she's, you know,
I've interfaced with her before.
I'm not a personal fan
because she's kind of a nut job.
So I just like ignore her.
I have her on mute.
But anyway, she made a post about how
she's tired of getting hit on by men at events okay and it's like a huge op-ed it's not like
just like a two-sentence tweet like a normal person she writes a fucking autobiography
about how she's getting hit on by men and then she adds a screenshot as evidence and it's just a dude who says don't have too much fun without me.
Like, that's all it says!
No, that is not
all it says. That is not.
I have seen it.
That is not all it says.
The reason why I blew up, Hoyo, is that
what happened in the screenshot?
He was hit on her, bro.
Yeah, he was.
She got hit on her.
Listen, that's some weak flirting if that's the case.
But hold on, hold on, hold on.
So this is why it's such a good lol call
because no matter which way you look at it,
it's still funny, okay?
So if she's not getting hit on,
it's like everyone knows but her, so it's funny, okay?
If she is getting hit on,
then it's just hilarious how down bad men are which
makes it even like even funnier okay and then the third thing that makes it funny is let's say
both sides are true the way that she wrote about it as a founder of a company is hilarious on the
business side of twitter wait what does her company do not we don't i don't know it doesn't
matter i think it's
web3gaming you haven't seen this shit curl you got to see a picture of her it's really funny
bro i haven't but oh dude no like i actually feel bad for her yeah someone quoted i feel bad
i saw a quote tweet of it and someone's like this didn't happen you look like a little boo-boo
like she's getting look does she look like a little boo-boo though? I know man
Like it was pretty funny
She seems nice
I don't want to be mean
Like I'm not trying to be mean
But like it is a ridiculous tweet man
Yeah
So like here's the
Retarded tweet
No it is
It is pretty peak
Cause she's obviously
Here's why
Here's why it's so viral
Is because
Like I feel bad
It's because blokes are fucking horrible
No Jonat It's an actual problem though like what
like the example that she made no she's right no yeah that's why yeah yeah she's right macro of it
is is accurate it happens all the time she is right but the problem is is nobody believes it's
happening yes yeah exactly but she just showed an example but she's hold up hold up i'm muting
everyone shut the fuck up you guys uh conversation, but don't talk over each other.
Koro, I pinned something.
This is fucking hilarious.
In her replies, the Miladies come after her.
And she goes, you're not a real Milady.
You're bringing shame to the Milady community.
And the Milady goes, shoot, now I'm a Milady.
Yo, I've seen the Dajin, like, comment, bro.
Like, bro, like, yo, bro, every time he writes amazing black culture, I go and I like it.
Because I fucking agree.
Like, what are they perpetrating here, man?
Like, yo, bro, he's always right.
He's never missed like i've never like and like i've been friends
with him for like as long as like i've been the m'lady's shit right and like yo bro like i don't
know bro like yo how are you gonna let a guy fucking shoot only fucking bullets that go around
corners at you like i don't like, look at this fucking picture, bro.
And then I go and I look at it.
Like, yo, not to be offensive, right, or anything like that,
but, like, I'm not hitting on her personally.
Look, I was saying that.
It's an actual issue.
Do you want to say it again?
It's an actual issue, just no one thought it was,
no one finished it happening too hard. But it is an issue.
She said something that was earnest and true.
But everyone's like, you should be thankful.
And that's where it kind of...
And I feel terrible because like...
Look, I'm not a fucking looker.
But I can't help but laugh.
She looks like her doodle, bro.
It's okay.
The main issue with it for me is that
she wrote this, like, self-
congratulatory, self-
Loathing, I guess. It's a giant
post about how awesome she is, right?
It's crazy. It's like,
It's Sisterhood of the Traveling Pancing.
Yeah, it's
just nuts, man.
The guy, to be fair, the guy does say
don't have too... The guy, to be fair, the guy does say, don't have too...
You fucking tweet that out, bro. What the fuck are you doing?
The guy says, don't have too much fun, unless it's with me.
We clearly need more than lol.
She replied lol.
To really chat. How about we fix that over some drinks?
That's not a bad comment, though, in all fairness.
It was life-flurring.
Why are you applying off your lol?
If you say that, she says lol.
Why are you applying? Listen. if you say that here's the crazy thing
listen we need to have a conversation whoever that man is got rejected like can you imagine
getting rejected like that's like you gotta go listen buddy like we gotta time to go to the gym
time no no no it's it's it's one of those hurt you moments, and then you go to the gym and get fucking ripped.
It's one of those moments.
She has a very specific type, too.
He's about 6'4", wears flannel.
You don't know what his fucking actual face looks like because his beard is so fucking thick.
There's fucking birds fucking running out of it with a fucking nest, bro.
It's that or a final fantasy
character you look at the picture i only feel bad why she did it is because the asian man hit on her
that's what i have a problem with dude i kuro i fucking love bobby i don't know i didn't know
an asian man hit on it i think you're better friends bro look at the picture by the way
that's no no that's the thing oh that was also why i was so funny thank you
that guy is is getting like secondhand murder where it looks like he's the one hitting on her
that's her actual best friend who's not into her at all and now there's 20 million people
who think that he got denied by her is this real no clarification is Yeah, that's the problem dude because I looked at I did I did read dude. I made money on this coin
So I'm like, all right, I gotta learn more about this
It's it's her close friend who is basically fuck like he might as well be gay. He's not into her at all
So now he's not there with you
That's fucking insane
Is she from Vancouver by any chance is
she like i don't know i don't want to know it's not my business i'm just here for the meme
i don't see her i see i see her as an idea at this point not as like her now you got me like
inquiring as to like the whole situation because i'm like now i'm invested as to like
what the fuck is going through this
woman's head like yo and she's not a bad looking girl right but wait wait wait hold on what do
you mean have you tried lens crafters and and like yeah get some fucking glasses for sure
wait did you definitely do that huh just to clarify she's not a... No, no, I look past like...
Yo, bro, I'm a very...
Yeah, what are you, fucking Master Agwe?
You better be looking real past.
Bro, have you seen what I look like?
Yeah, you look like fucking Lenny...
You look like Lenny Kravitz if he did meth.
What?
That's crazy.
But like, you're still handsome.
By the way, I don't know if this... Yeah, bro, that's crazy. But like you're still handsome. By the way, I don't know if this
is actually being serious.
I look like Ellen DeGeneres.
Everyone's got some fucking things.
To be fair, you're on too much of a high
this morning. Jonah had to simmer you down a little bit.
No, bro.
I'm not even mad at that. That was a
fucking banger.
I am 5'7 and look like fucking Ellen DeGeneres.
We are allowed to...
No, you're also handsome.
You stop it.
You're also handsome.
Just with the...
Dude, I will say my...
Wow, that's fucked up.
Bro, you did two things that have improved your jawline recently.
You went to the gym.
Yeah, he looks good.
You gained some muscle.
Your arm's a little bigger.
You look good.
The gym's doing its thing.
If she hits the gym for like two and a half years, she might be a smoke show.
And goes to South Korea.
I just feel like it's okay to live one way.
But when you put out a fucking list, he needs to be 6'4", and he needs to have...
Wait, did she really do that?
Yeah, Jonah, that's what went viral on her.
She actually did.
Oh my god, that's great
I feel like when you do that, then you have like a magnifying glass on your ass
Never mind, never mind
Listen, listen, listen
I saw like 20 tweets with like 10 million impressions each
I felt bad laughing
Because I thought she was nice to people
If she said that, it's fair game
It's gotta be satire
It's gotta be satire
The list was too ridiculous I thought you were joking it's gotta be satire though it's gotta be satire the list
was too ridiculous
I'm a professional professional light skin
I know
but do you understand why this meme is so fucking good
like in all honesty
this coin should have gone past 300k
but it's just we're in a bear market
in a bull market this coin would have hit like 50 million
and the reason is
that it's such a dumb
fucking thing, but it
evokes such a large conversation
between men and women about fucking
standards and shit.
It transcends herself.
She has become
an ideology more than she's become
herself through this post.
I'm going to be contrary.
And you guys wonder why there's so many single
40-year-old women, right? Like, shit.
Wait, I have to
pin this tweet up.
It shows that meme coins will never die.
It's just harder to make money, but
they do work.
They do work.
The thesis is correct.
The thesis is correct, but...
Oh, but you know what the fucking problem is?
Is every time Pump Fun has a runner, Bonk is like,
I can do that!
And then they call their fucking friends at the Trump family to make a fucking vamp.
I actually did buy a...
All she needs is some bangs and, like, a trip to South Korea.
Like, specifically Seoul, Dangning District district and she's gonna be fine bro like
she'll make it okay kuro uh i pinned the okay her requirements iq over 130 uh has to be what's
the dark triad light what does that mean uh i think her entire account's satirical by the way
if you look at okay no she no no no no no, no, no, no. Her account is real.
No, no.
She's a real person.
I can confirm this.
No, no, no, no, no.
She's legitimately a real person.
I know this because she worked in Web3 Gaming.
And I had to deal with her fucking side commenting to me continuously.
And I've heard from other people who have met her.
No, no.
She's a real person.
She's real.
Read the fucking list.
He needs to do everything she wants.
He has to be between 6'1 and 6'3.
IQ 130 plus.
He has to...
I'm pretty sure she reads those horse cock books.
What's that one where they milk a fucking
horse or some shit? You know what I'm talking about?
It's crazy.
No, there's a whole thing where there's
like... Bro, I told you I was right.
She said beard and i know
what yeah beard the fucking bird nest thing the last few things on that list seem like and he has
to love plants but eat meat so i mean i'm sure she's partially fucking around but i can tell you
yeah he is bro you should see the comments if you look at the comments like you know see the comments she is but i can tell you look at the comments like you know that the lawyer the female lawyer i think ariel oh my god no no i think that one is real no i think that
one is real that that that one's probably just rage baited so no no no no no no so i no no no
i'm telling you i'm telling you this is why it's a beautiful meme she is actually like this like i
can promise you she actually is like this this is is a real person. And I think it's because
she's, like,
she's so out there
that you can't tell
what she's memeing about
and what she's serious about.
I think she's dead fucking serious
about being scared around lesbians.
And she's joking about this fucking,
this fucking, like,
Yeah, that's insane.
She's actually in real.
Yeah, that was honest.
She just absolutely
just butchered her business.
I mean, if,
do you know what I mean?
Well, I mean, she worked in 1-3 gaming.
There wasn't much left to do, to be fair.
That's kind of funny.
Johnny, are you there?
Yeah, yeah.
Thanks, Boyle.
I think Pudgy Penguins should get into muscle building powders.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Is your name Johnny?
It can be.
No, but Jonah loves to talk.
Johnny, how are you, bro? I'm doing amazing. I've also saw this with the lesbian stuff that was
funny, but I didn't got it like totally. She's afraid of and when she goes on conferences and they are approaching her
or what i got you i got you i'm big on just lower i'm sort of like a master's degree in it
so the whole thing is that when guys hit on her she gets like anxiety and then runs to the gays
and then ariel's like because she's lesbian ariel's like that's kind of weird treating us like this
prop we're kind of just people and she's like well i don't go around lesbians because they'd want to fuck me
i don't understand to be honest dude yeah i forgot if a guy said that by the way
read the fucking thing she said that she actually said read it she it was kind of
so she inadvertently insinuated your honor Honor, I'd like you to read it verbatim. Indirect marketing, Pollo.
Read it verbatim.
Andrew's come out with a lot of fucking heinous shit today,
and I don't think it's all true.
What?
Indirect marketing, sir.
Oh, wait, is it right, Andrew?
Who's the one who said she...
She's...
Okay, Joan is coming out with a lot of...
All right, not you then, I'm sorry
You guys do actually sound similar
Read what she wrote and you'll agree that
What I said is correct, read it
I don't know, I fucking had
We should invite her
No, no, no
I had some fucking gay couple
Hit on me like they wanted to fuck my ass
I wasn't scared of them
I didn't know they wanted to fuck your ass Maybe they wanted I wasn't scared of them. I didn't know they wanted to fuck your ass.
Maybe they wanted you to fuck theirs.
If any guy
who's homosexual hits on you,
that's a man.
It's like a compliment.
It's not a compliment.
There's a difference.
There's a very detailed version of this.
If they think you can fuck
them, it's commentary. If they're hitting on you because you're the. If they think you can fuck them,
it's commentary.
If they're hitting on you because you're the feminine
who they want to put it inside,
it's not a compliment.
It means that you're not really enough.
How would you tell up front?
You can tell.
You can tell.
I don't know.
I took it as a compliment.
Fuck it.
You haven't been hit on by enough.
Take it all as compliments.
Ignorance is bliss.
Let me take it all as compliments.
You haven't been hit on
by enough gay guys
to know the difference,
but there's a difference.
I have.
I live in Toronto, dude.
I have.
I live in fucking Florida.
Okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you don't know what...
Yeah, but like...
Alright, so I'll give you an example.
I'll give you an example.
I've been hit on by more gay guys than you guys.
Haha.
Shut up.
Flipping out.
Are we really gassing this up?
What?
You're from Cardiff?
You're from Cardiff?
That's kind of funny putting your frame like
no i'm from london sorry arabi i just feel like we don't have these problems in lebanon your
judges still wear white wigs from the fucking 16th bro don't get me started on what happens
a robbie look out for a call from me on friday by the way a robbie friday what do you say yeah
friday call big call yep, CCC Wait, wait
Put us on
Is that going for something?
We want to know
What is this call about?
He's building something
That I'm helping you with
It's ready to
Fucking be seen by
Bro, close me on, Araby
What the fuck?
Yeah, I mean
I did tell you
Let's hope on a cool bandit
Let's fucking do it
There we go Shit Let's pivot the conversation a cool bandit. Let's fucking do it.
There we go.
Let's pivot the conversation.
It's a funny story.
I like the... Alright, so other coin I traded.
White whale.
That was good.
Franklin made some money there.
I traded a coin too.
A bonk one.
Not even joking.
I bought a meme coin for the first time in is it one that's
vamp or is it an original one for you i sold i sold up uh for soul um and i put in three so
i'm happy wait uh jonah are you out out of the white whale now i just saw it's too yeah well
yeah yeah i i well because like the like again like it can go up but i think the narrative has already run its course like like it's like beating
a dead joke and every joke has a certain amount of fuel to it and i and it's not like it's not
big enough for me to be caring that much anymore about it it was fucking funny the memes it was
funny for like it ended when he took it over that's when i saw yeah like it was it. It was fucking funny. It ended when he took it over.
That's when I saw it.
It's funny.
Dude, this is what I'm saying, Kuk.
I'm telling you.
Invest in lolcows.
People who don't want to be made fun of,
but they can't help but be made fun of.
Those are the meme coins you want.
The fact that he embraced it ruined the joke.
The angrier he gets, the better the price.
I need like a lolcow TLDR so I can just like check this.
We just had a whole way too long explanation of it.
Literally five minutes ago, you were here.
Yeah, pull your eyes.
Yeah, exactly.
I need a TLDR.
I'll make it very quick.
A lolcow is someone with illusions of grandeur, okay,
or some crazy illusion.
Someone who has a way of talking that is outside the norm.
Someone who can put up with bullying for long periods of time
periods of time uh and has like a quirk about it and someone with a very like special physical look
and has, like, a quirk about it.
about them whether they're attractive or ugly doesn't matter but they have to have a very
interesting like look to them those are the factors of a lolcow did you catch that for you
yeah yeah taking notes all right we all know chris chan right that's like oh my god sonichu
yeah no they don't know they don't know we're we're too deep in the internet you guys don't
know the story of sonichu chris chan that is a documentary all right here's the basics of chris
chan chris chan is a is a this so the lore is so fucking deep but chris chan he wasn't lying
no like you don't understand like this is my netflix you guys watch like stranger things and
i'm watching these lol cows like no i don't watch that i don't want okay anyway chris chan is a guy
who became a girl he's clearly got autism and he's not even that bad of a guy, but he's just weird. And he's into, like, this furry shit.
And he's known for making this drawing of Sonic the Hedgehog as, like, porn, almost.
Like, he made Sonic the Hedgehog, like, softcore porn, and it went viral.
And, like, this image went viral as Sonichu, and it just turned him into a very popular lol cow.
Bro, you said
he wasn't a bad guy. I'm gonna guess
you're not as deep into it. I guess I'm not.
Whatever. I saw recently.
Oh, basically, when Sonichu gives you
his necklace, your career
is over, also, as a thing.
He has, like...
Let me just drop one thing. This is true.
Alright, go for it. He was arrested.
And I'm pretty sure he's still in jail because he...
How do I say this on X?
Oh, I take it back already.
I did not know he did that.
That is not good.
No, no, no.
He did the bad thing to his own mom.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no, I knew about that.
Yeah, but I thought that was rumor.
I didn't know that actually happened. No, it real all right so he his mom is like 80 and he did something to
her that you're not supposed to do to your parents yeah or or anyone in your family and then i don't
know he did crazy shit bro i thought that was a rumor i didn't know that was real that's fucked
that's real bro and there's worlds Play is so many of the things.
But yeah, there's a lot of low cows.
Kuro.
Yo, my bad. I was trying to buy this
fucking mute card before all these
retards buy it.
Oh, dude, I was going to ask you.
What do you think about the Kabuto stuff?
Anagram for Chocabu.
I think it's an interesting fucking thing that happened.
I look at it as a thing that happened, right?
And, like, it shows that, like, the Pokemon market's getting kind of toppy.
And, like, you know, like, over the next couple of months,
as we head into the anniversary in Japan, it's just going to fucking do a nosedive.
Like, it's going to be like a fucking $70 billion market cap just went to fucking 5 mil in a fucking, in like a three month period.
It's just going to look beautiful.
The charts are going to look fucking disgusting, though.
Funny thing is, the guy that snagged the card that he signed,
the one for 51K, I think he's a pudgy on Twitter.
Yeah, yeah, he owns a card platform as well.
Yeah, which is funny.
That that world collided,
and these guys are now buying those fucking cards.
Bro, did you see the lore of the...
I'll post it in the comments so you guys could see but so uh what you know like the two retarded brothers um the paul brothers logan
yeah yeah yeah here i just i i saw yeah logan logan tried to logan tried... Logan put in a bid, I think a 51 flat,
and then he put a 51
100, and then I think made it out
by 100 bucks.
That was the end of the auction.
You know what's cool about Twitter is you could
just tag people.
Who'd you tag?
Who'd you tag?
Oh my god.
Kuro, I saw what did you take oh my god kuro i saw min um he tweeted this publicly he sold a lot of his pokemon card i think he said 70 of his portfolio yeah i'm pretty much out of pokemon right now and i'm in yo but i'm like i
didn't play pokemon so i have no problem selling it but like I yo bro I've been buying
some really expensive like
one piece cards that I'm just
going to keep forever so they're off the market
and the price goes higher and fuck
those kids
hell yeah I might buy some Yu-Gi-Oh
cards I mean uh
I like Pokemon too but Yu-Gi-Oh is so nostalgic
yo bro like you remember how Yu-G're gonna actually played uh yo bro i like you
remember how yugioh is when we were kids like you could play a game in like half an hour yeah
yo bro it's like two and a half hours to play a game and like you know they're doing 70 fucking
card fucking things like yo bro he literally did 70 moves because like the first
time he did it i i like i like i counted it bro and then i went on the fucking simulator
the yugioh simulator to see if he fucking cheated me because like i'm very competitive with my
nephew i don't let him win unless he can actually win because otherwise you raise pussies right so
yo bro and then i i had to teach him how to play fucking uh one piece and i just fucking slaughtered him a couple times in half an hour you know give him a good fucking thrashing
how old is he like no he's six
i've never went let him win like easily at anything because like my dad never let me win
easily at anything otherwise i'd be a loser like these guys like cry on the fucking internet about
their fucking nfts fucking retards no that'sards. I think my first
life milestone career was when I started
beating my dad in chess.
And he didn't let me win.
That's one of the greatest feelings of all time.
That's why you're where you're at today, bro.
Hell yeah.
People with weak fathers
grow up to be weak men, bro.
And that's why the world is failing.
You know what was the biggest win? You know when you become stronger than your dad that was a fucking win
you're like yeah you're you're old and frail now mate uh i feel like it's crazy you always see them
as like these crazy strong figures and then you hit like 18 to 20 and then suddenly you're like
have that old man you know yeah you know like
having a dad is like having a dad i can't relate
my dad was a karate trainer and i've been training with him for 15 years and so and when i was like
17 i knocked him out at the training and that was my biggest What? Yeah, you just went too far
That's crazy
That's crazy
To be fair, I feel like karate is a fucking me
I think the only two, three real combat sports that are useful is like boxing, Muay Thai, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
But you have karate fights also
Everything under the UFC, everything under the UFC pretty much is like
See, the equivalent of like most CT people is their children like writing their first banger and it's like I'm now better at posting than you are.
Unlucky.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know where that fits into the conversation, but good one.
Holy shit.
I was kind of soothing, bro.
I'll be honest.
I'm just taking a moment to take all of this in.
Dude, wow.
It's so boring that we're talking about Bonnie Blue,
karate,
and fucking, I don't know.
Like, what are we even doing oh shit andrew what made you buy that penguin um did you by the way did you like uh make a good trade selling it which one the one
i bought them my first one was in 2022.
Literally like two, three months after Luka acquired.
I don't call it acquired.
I sold them all the way at the top,
sold them all the way down at the bottom.
So I have a bunch of different buys and sells at different price points.
But yeah, overall positive trade.
Why did I buy this one?
I don't know.
I like it.
It was on the floor.
No, it really suits you.
What do you think about the fog yesterday?
Bro, it's just the state of NFTs just down.
I don't know.
I think they looked a bit weird.
We were talking about this yesterday.
I don't know.
They're cool, but something about them, the art looks off to me.
I don't know.
I mean, they have been at 0.3, right?
Yeah, before the reveal they dropped
a lot of people want to buy like who buys NFTs there's literally no buyers
there's no buyers in crypto and crypto is small and there's no buyers outside of
crypto like yeah I'm surprised that you can
sell that nft for any money what's the point if you can sell it for money today do you think
you'll be able to sell it for money in a month no of course not they should be zero i agree i think
you should only be buying nfts if you like are like full-on collector i i just sold a bunch of
nfts because people place bids
and forget they place bids.
There's these ones that are absolutely worthless.
I just saw I had like 12
or 15 of them
and I just had offers of like .3
sold from like 8 months ago, 9 months
ago. It was just immediately just
thank you for the
3.5 Solana, you fuckers.
Enjoy that worthless nft mate
yeah that unbelievable tech people forget i did the similar thing on magic eden this was like a
couple months ago but i went through like some old solana trash nft wallet and since they put
in the amm where like magic eden's amm is bidding and there's like yeah exactly and i just put like
tons of nfts into
floor bids it was weird like some of them were rugs from two years ago and i got like yeah 0.15
soul 0.2 soul like so weird and some yeah it's great but some of them man yeah check your rug
wallets like now's the time to unload your nfts probably like this is stuff that's never coming
back like i had a thousand nfts on soul that were just all garbage. And I finally cleaned them up like whatever. Yeah, a month ago.
Did you click on the tab? I don't know if it was in Phantom.
But you see in Phantom where they said what you bought them for and like the unrealized P&L
when it's just like minus three. I had that for like loads of them. That's horrible.
I was on Magic Eden because I did it because I was trying to like see how their point season
worked and stuff. And it was like, oh, sell NFTs and get points and I'm like oh let's see I probably have some garbage
NFTs I can just smash into bids and then I was surprised at like how high some of the bids were
and I realized you know AMM just having no your your your post has made me slightly nervous I
staked my magic Eden for like the maximum allocated time i think it's like five years i was like oh it's you know what oh yeah yeah exactly exactly so i the thought process was i feel like
magic eden will still be around in four years so like let's let's see and then you staked yours
and didn't get anything back it's the zero percent apy stake it's an is this yeah nobody really knows
that so you staked it for five years or four years or whatever, you will get the exact amount of tokens back that you staked.
It's not...
And they just tell you, like, when they show you the number
and they're like, oh, you're going to get a million tokens,
staking power.
It's your staking power, whatever the fuck that means.
So you have the credit during the staking window of more tokens,
which I guess allows you to participate to a higher degree in their farming
seasons yeah that was not made clear i'll make it clear yeah nobody knew i didn't know that
and then at the 30 days i was like okay let me go claim bro i just got the same amount of tokens
back like you guys are saying yeah i just i literally sold my magic eden i can't lie no i couldn't believe i
literally couldn't i saw your person i was like i'm literally fucked yeah it's crazy it gives me
like i can't believe i didn't dump that day one like i really screwed up some airdrops like half
i i i held some bad ones and that was one that i held and i staked it because i'm like oh yeah the
returns pretty good i can't believe the staking return but it's like not a staking return yeah yeah there's scams it was ridiculous i can't believe i had the same just dump it
hey bandit i i saw you speaking fondly of um jupiter i just recently unstaked mine
to to go and buy like a random meme coin what is the the appeal there for you I obviously it's a
working product and like I I use pretty much Jupiter like only when I'm swapping so I'm curious
as to like what you're why you like Jupiter so much I'm paid to post that yeah I was gonna say
it's a paid partnership oh it's paid all right well I'll put it this way Poyle we like it because
the reach likes it but but
to be fair they had one thing that i'm slightly excited it's the i wasn't allowed to to talk about
this but um they had this fucking wet pre-sale i think that will do well i didn't have a lot of
allocation but i'm expecting it to do well i think even ico beast and a few others that i know are in
it um but i don't know i think i had like like, I think I had like 1,000 bucks allocation.
Like, I'm not,
yeah, it's not a lot.
At first.
And by the way,
just because it's a paid
shill doesn't mean
you can't be fucking
bullish on it.
I hate this, like,
no, I mean,
it's like, you know,
I mean, it's the fucking biggest.
You can still be bullish
on something you get paid
to post about.
Yeah, it's the biggest
TVL Solana project.
So it's not like
some random,
but it's,
if you're asking me, like, am I actively buying the tokens no like I'm I'm not buying any
I'm not touching any old so I say that every day on here Jupiter is gonna be
like a bear market buy for me I'm definitely like like eight months I'm
in this shit there's no I just feel like it's just it's historically done quite
well though the token the only bear for me is hype yeah the token only gone down
man what
are you talking about by jlp no no no no historically if you if you look at it that
it was worth like 25 cents at one point or 22 you're looking at the wrong chart bro look at
the soldier what do you cook what do you think that what do you think because i'm waiting for
like hype is literally reminding me of what solana was last cycle, where it touched $8 and then it fucking ballooned
because of just like people doubting it.
What do you...
I know that you're bullish on it,
so it might go lower than you think,
but what do you think the lowest price it'll hit
during the bear is?
I honestly, bro, I have no idea.
I think it's a hard question to answer
because right now I think it's too low.
Like hype makes a ton of money.
I don't think that that's going to change.
I'm buying it. I bought some today.
I buy some every day, actually.
Crypto's crazy, right?
It could hit $10, and I wouldn't be like...
I was thinking...
I don't know what it is today,
because I just woke up.
My buy prices are anywhere between $15 and $20 range.
If it hits below that, that's fine,
but I would be very happy in that range. To me, yeah. If you could buy it between $15 and $20 range. And if it hits below that, that's fine, but I would be very happy in that range.
To me, yeah, okay, if you could buy it between $15 and $20,
I think you'd be very happy.
I'd be buying a lot of it at that price.
I think that that's too low,
and I have a hard time seeing it go there.
But like I said, this is crypto,
and yeah, Sol went to $8, right?
So anything can happen.
I think if hype goes to $15,
you load up the fucking truck.
I will still be buying at that price.
That's my belief of it going that low
has nothing to do with the fundamentals of the company.
I think it's just that when the market dies off
and a bear dies really hard
and people get overly emotional
and don't look at the base case of an asset.
And so I think it's kind of like revolving around the sun where there's a price where
it should be, but it'll range up above or below it radically for certain periods of
time because it's trying to find its orbit.
Yeah, hype's a little bit different because there's like $2 million a day being bought
back.
But yeah, I don't know.
I think that the last low was $14 think right or so yeah i don't know i could see
anything bro yeah that's what that's what that's why i will dca it the whole time i'll be buying
it at five dollars if it goes are you gonna be a would you be a pump buyer uh i have some pumps
still but it's not it's kind of got a bottom a like it's it doesn't go much
lower than like two eight two seven like i it's the same as i say about hype where like i think
hype's too cheap here i think pump is too cheap here because they make a lot of money too are
they still making shit tons yeah it makes over a million a day yeah because because there's only
two launch pads it's bonk or pump and nobody really likes bonks that much so they just launch things
on pump there's only one launch pad like bonk's not real like i wouldn't buy more poyo pump like
i'm not buying here i still have some like and i had sold most of it and i bought some back around
three and like so if it went to like two i would i would buy more because it'll get to a price too
like it can get really bad even though
that sector won't disappear and like memes can get reignited at any point and whatever meme
reignites memes will come off pump and then their revenue can go up really fast right and then
yeah so but yeah i mean i don't see a reason to buy it here what made me bullish on hype and like
that's definitely one i'll consider too is the fact that you have some like cz actively trying to vamp it that you have you have to be doing something right if cz is trying to
crime something in order to take away market share from you and the fact that he's tried like i mean
thus far kind of failed i mean everyone kind of sees us there is like a scam kind of pump and
we'll see what happens i feel like hype was kind of stood the test of time already, given the fact
that you've had one of the biggest people in the space
trying to vamp it unsuccessfully.
I'm probably going to buy that.
My narrative reasoning is actually a little different.
Go ahead.
I'd like to hear you. Go ahead.
My reasoning is all the launches
that are coming out next year are all
very centralized entities.
Charles Schwab is
getting into crypto. You're having like the NASDAQ is going to go full 24-7 by I believe summer is
their goal. There's all these indicators where I actually think they're going to need to use
Hyperliquid in some way for liquidity as long as the liquidity is mainly on Hyperliquid where
you know it's kind of like Hyperliquid is the API for volume, right?
So you just plug and play your assets into Hyperliquid since it's the closest pseudo-decentralized thing to, you know, a true operating DEX.
That's my main thought. It has nothing to do with CZ.
Because I think there's plenty of players that can be second, third, and fourth to Hyperliquid.
plenty of players that can be second, third, and fourth to hyperliquid.
But I think the rule of thumb in crypto, which is different in stocks, is you always just
trade the winner, no matter what the price is, because the winner always has more room
to grow than the second and the third.
That's the only thesis I have, is you always trade the winner.
Yeah, my biggest bag is Bitcoin by far, but then I also, I've been buying some hype tokens.
I have the NFT already.
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what else there is to be excited about.
I'll wait for it.
Would you be excited about the, when, when the,
here's my forecast and I'm, and I'm a retard.
Okay. I'm not a trader.
I build consumer businesses and marketing.
So I'm a certified retard.
You have Paul Atkins on the SEC saying in two years, everything will be unchained.
That's the SEC chair.
That's the current active chair, which tells me that we're in a bear till probably sometime
in the summer.
Things start to finally kick off.
We have a belief that a bull is here when the midterms come because Trump is going to
try whatever he can to get as many Republicans elected as possible. This gets closer to the time that the SEC starts talking
more about everything on chain. You then have the privacy meta, the DEX meta again with hyperliquid
and maybe a third and fourth thing that we haven't even realized yet. And then once everything's on
chain in two years, then we start descending from the bull market again
and we go into a bear in 2029.
That's my, and I get it on a retard.
I get that.
I'm just basing this on just the news.
I'm saying I'm excited about hyperliquid.
I'm saying other than hyperliquid and Bitcoin,
there's nothing that excites me at the moment.
I mean, I'm excited about things all the time.
There's different levels of excitement.
I can be excited for a day, or I can be excited for a year.
I don't shut off any potential opportunities,
but I also, if you measure what your excitement is
and why you're excited, I think you can be okay with it.
Yeah, let's fucking go.
We have Komish.
Yo, Jim.
Yeah. Bandit.
Komish made me a cartoon of me and you drinking coffee.
I gotta, because I'm back to GM's maybe, right? So I think I'm gonna post that shit.
Maybe I'll post it right now.
That's yo.
Welcome to the science club, Kirk. Welcome.
No, Komish, yo.
Nice to be back in the lab with you, Poyo.
Shit, we're fucking be squilling at Jem. Welcome! Nice to be back in the lab with you, Pollo.
We're fucking be spilling. Check your TG's, I dropped you something.
It's not about you, but I really want you to check it out.
It's like a music video, no? Zack making those?
I tried to make this as well.
Wait, did you say to cook or me?
No, you both, you both. I dropped you both.
I just opened it.
I'm downloading it.
I don't want to spoil what it is, but it looks sick. I just opened it. I'm downloading it.
I don't want to spoil what it is, but it looks sick.
Well, I'll tell you.
It's a hypercat, and he's in a lab with a potion.
Bro, this is unreal.
This is sick.
It's not on the one scene.
This is good.
Komesh, how did you get into fucking doing these AI things?
Was it hard to learn?
No, I mean, I was doing the AI from the very start.
I was trying, I was doing it.
I was working for the NFT collection.
And I was doing some AI videos.
But at the time, the model was so bad.
And the videos were bad as well.
And it was so hard to make them.
Yo, I have a question, Komesh, if I can. Where do you do exactly these videos? Like, what's an AI?
Like, I use multiple tools. I use for the images, I use Sora, my favorite AI, and for the videos, I use Kling. I don't know, but the Google Veo is really good as well. The
Sora video generation is good. Like, There's a lot of good tools now.
Cool.
But do you just prompt as you see your future video?
Or just have some examples?
First, I prepare an image.
I have a prompt, a JSON prompt.
I do JSON prompting because it's way better.
And then, based off that image, I make a video if I need a video.
Oh, cool.
I see.
Yeah.
Thank you. Yeah, thank you.
No dude, I think if you keep at it, you're gonna have people paying you soon.
I think Zach has some offers already
and he's just been posting them to his...
I pinned the GM.
I banned it, we're in a co-GM.
Oh shit, it's cool, right?
This is fucking, I like it.
Wait, wait, I got a comment.
Why did that Geotops?
I fucking love it, dude.
Kuro, you pinned something, too. What is this?
Which?
What?
Oh, okay, it's the Logan Paul thing.
What was your max grid?
Yeah, yeah.
So, wait. What is this? is this about the Kabuto signed card?
Yeah, those are the people that bought it. The guy that's a pudgy
Owns that company
Sorry, I'm just for fun
Cool Damn Sorry, I'm just replying. Cool. Damn. Komish, what else? What are you doing except sending us these bangers?
And please don't tell me prediction, Mark.
No, actually I'm doing some work in my job and well, yeah, mostly I was doing this video like almost all day.
I was doing this music video and I'm about to upload it right now and if that's okay I'm gonna pin it
hey can you remind me of the name of that collection again
which one your PFP
I used to have one yeah oh it's schizo posters
yeah they're cool bro there's a fucking extremely base
oh wait no this isn't I think this is another one, right, Kormish?
Yeah, it's Miladyum Christ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's not a schizo poster. It's a shame.
They're pretty cheap for now.
Yeah, fucking everything is.
Damn, how do I pin?
Click share and then it should pop up the name of the space if you look at like the selection of things you can do
GM GM no I like it okay I'm gonna say something I think I've said this but I
don't like gems but they get so much fucking engagement like it's hard not to
do them because it's 75 likes in two minutes yeah it's a bit disgusting like how how well they do i don't
know if people are just scraping or like searching the word gm and fucking yeah their entire algo
because they're replying to gms is just fucking gm to see the gm king back in the lab. That's what it is. That just makes me want to kill myself.
Oh my god, Kuki, I already have 73 fucking replies on that.
It's been two minutes.
Bro, dude, the last fair market, like, for like a year,
or maybe less than a year, I don't know,
but like every single day I wrote the same GM.
GM'd absolutely everyone with a coffee and a son.
And then one day I was like, GMing is'd absolutely everyone with a coffee and a son. And then one
day I was like, GMing is gay. If you GM and you are gay, no one should ever GM again. Fuck GMing,
you're all GM scientists. And then I hated on GMs for like two or three years. But yeah, now I'm
back in the lab and I'm going to put that, I can't do it every day. It's a little bit corny, but
when I get a special GM like the bandit
special custom art
Yeah, we're gonna put some GMs out there
Andrew you're did you GM with your new pudgy?
Yeah, I'll probably do tomorrow engagement. I'll probably do tomorrow to be honest
If you want to send me one I'll definitely post speaking of pudgy is is pengu gonna be a bad
market buy for anyone like the meme coin that's all the abstract coin uh not the abstract one
no the the pudgy yeah just buy the coin i think bro like i mean maybe if the cartoon went low
enough i'd buy one it's it's like one of three nfts that makes sense to Ellen maybe yeah yeah I feel like if there's gonna be an
NFT winner it'll be pudgy what Jonas they trade the winners yeah I don't know
maybe well I mean the winners have to show extreme amounts of revenue and
growth I mean like pangu token is probably the best character
token, if you believe
in those, so...
It would make sense.
That's what I kept fucking up
this cycle,
was just, like, not just trading the
fucking winner, and not just, like, backing
the winner, the clear winner.
You know, that's why I bought
some Kaito the other day. I was like,
fuck it.
It's absolutely shit on everything else.
Realistically.
Even just by the people they're hiring
and the brainpower of them.
Some of them have just hired some people. I'm like,
holy lord.
Plus your guy works there too.
No, no. My bold friend is probably
the only bearish part of it. That is about it.
That's like the only bear case I have
for Khadija. The fact that
this little bold man is
the head of CT.
Call him a little ridiculous, by the way.
I wish you could talk to the marketing leader intern.
Dude, he's so based, but I don't think
He's British, bro.
I almost said his name.
The intern's fucking British. That's like insanely based.
Yeah.
You wonder why he's so funny and why he's so human.
Yeah, I know who he is.
It's because he's British.
Isn't it?
I talked to, I knew him before Kaito too, which is a small world.
Yeah, I don't want to, I don't think he wants to be known.
No, we're not going to say who it is.
But fuck, like, isn't that like a huge, very bullish person to have anything?
It is.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah.
And then I look at some of these...
The space is only so small, man.
If you get a corporate,
quote-unquote,
corporate job in crypto,
like, you end up meeting,
like, everyone
at pretty much
every other camp.
So it's like,
it's only so big, right?
And I look at some of these
hires that other
InfoFive people
are announcing.
I'm like,
damn, bro.
Oh, shit.
Wait, wait, wait.
No, I'm doing the background, my background man like there's some people
and it's actually turned me like bearish on some of them bro and like i didn't want to be and it's
actually turned me pretty bearish i was like all right then you know this is interesting i've spoken
to some other people about it and like yeah it's kind of just like forced my move now like obviously
i'll farm like all of them like why wouldn't? If there's like one person paying all of them, obviously, I farm that.
I don't care.
But in terms of like my actual like bullish thesis, like if I if I back them, it's yeah, it's changed for sure.
For sure.
Oh, yeah.
These people will learn.
I'm not going to name names, but I have a hunch.
Oh, DM you, bro.
I actually think I replied on the one
that post like are you a fucking robot like you tweet like a robot like this is insane
that's funny um yeah i don't know fucking uh we have ole uh sorry i was gonna get to you the
first time you were here but we had a lot of conversations going what's up yo yo um yeah i had to leave i was teaching but now i'm
back just practicing piano the market is so fucking boring uh yeah i mean it's open we're
so down bad Oh yeah
We are all so down bad
Down bad
Down bad
We are so down
But I longed hype again
So please don't wreck me
I just used 20x leverage
On hype again
Oh yeah That was a bad That was good What the fuck Use 20x leverage on hype again.
Oh, yeah.
That was a bad, that was a bad. That was good, what the fuck?
I got the fucking rope pulled out of piano.
But yeah, I mean, you know, the market really sucks, you know.
Actually, the last three days, I experienced myself, you know, I'm a beginner in trading.
I'm just using, you know, my AI agent.
And I'm always ignoring it because, you know, the chart looks kind of i'm just using you know my ai agent and i'm always ignoring it
because the you know the chart looks kind of oh i will long now and obviously it's not going long
you know i always stop loss hits i lose money and then i revenge trade and then i make the money
back and think like oh yeah this is now you know pumped so then i can you know like short it again
and losing it again like i did that so. So, well, that was so stupid.
And I'm actually using an AI already and it tells me not to do it.
And still, I ignore it.
I'm so fucking dumb.
But yeah, I hope I get better in this shit.
You know, I'm very emotional when it comes to trading.
But, you know, that's exactly what you not should do.
But I will get there, man.
I'm still, I have the mentality of, you know, just marrying my bags.
And that's fucking trading. You're not to marry your bags here. But yeah, I'm there, man. I have the mentality of just marrying my bags. And that's fucking trading.
You're not to marry your bags here.
But I'm learning, man.
It's tough times.
But I will get there eventually.
Oh, good shit.
But if trading doesn't work out, you have a career as a pianist.
Bro, I'm a musician.
That's my career already.
So, yeah, I'm just pivoting a little bit into losing my money, which I made with music, to crypto. So, yeah, let'm just like, you know, pivoting a little bit into this, like, you know, losing my money, which I made with music to crypto.
So, yeah, let's see how that goes.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm in this space since 2021.
And I know how, you know, it feels when you make a lot of money with gaming tokens.
But guess what?
You've made money with gaming tokens?
Yes.
I refuse to believe you've made money off of gaming tokens.
Bro, UFO in the past made 100x. Crazy shit. money with gaming token yes i refuse to believe you've made money off of gaming token bro ufo in
the in the past made 100x crazy shit you're referring to you're referring to avax right
the avax pre-sales nope nope still when i i wasn't into avax ecosystem but i know that there
is stuff going on on aware at least uh but yeah i made you know lots of like anything been 2021 anything like what was
just like launching made like three four x and i was lucky to get 100 x but still like in in like
12 hours i lost like 30k of it so yeah pretty shit but you know that i i was very young and
very stupid and these experience they they forged me now how I am.
But yeah.
I think, let me, I got a take on your trading journey.
You seem very self-aware and most people don't have that in crypto.
So you're like, yeah, I'm doing the opposite of the robot because I'm retarded and I'm too emotional and I like to marry my trades and I try to revenge trade. Most people will do all that stuff, but they won't acknowledge they're doing it
and they'll come up with some reason that the decision they made was right. So you're probably
going to be fine, man. Sound good. I do the same thing, man. I've got like one big round trip this
cycle where I'm like, basically when you, if you're selling at a good time, it's got to be hard to sell right like you're
selling something that you're you're emotionally feeling like it's going to keep going up and you
really don't want to sell it that's why everybody round trips the people that sell it are the
winners um and when you're buying something like it should feel shit too right like if you're buying
some spot now on bitcoin or like hype cough cough i know i chill this shit too much but like you're probably getting a good entry if it's painful and you want to fucking throw up when you're buying.
So it's good to acknowledge the emotions surrounding this stuff or else you'll never actually get very good at it.
If you're led by your emotions, you kind of have to do the opposite of your emotions.
Yeah, man.
Thanks for the feedback.
I am actually documenting all that stuff on my
x channel it's just feels like when i wrote this today it felt like you know i i'm tweeting how
stupid i am basically i'm just showing everyone how retarded i am this is like a weird feeling
but i think it's like i mean yeah it's funny but you know it's like i think a lot of people are in
this situation when it comes to trading like i mean i see people like you know people like shilling something and then they're going to
you know these guys i mean i cook you also in kind of this situation remember there was like
a guy a few days ago and you know there was some like it's your it's your fault at the end you know
no it's not your fault it's your decision to do something. I mean, I longed hype from like 32 bucks and I have always stopped loss.
I always have a stop loss, which rescues me at the end.
But if I wouldn't do that, and a lot of people don't do that because like, oh, yeah, my timeline
set, it will go up.
Like, bro, it can go like to fucking 15 bucks.
You don't know.
But still, I think long term term i'm fucking bullish on on
hype you know super bullish but when it comes to trading man like again like this is my mentality
like i bought this i know it's a good thing but when you trade leverage pro this this you can make
a lot of money leverage trading but you can lose everything so quick and like i think people who
get liquidated are very stupid especially when
they are like me like in when they don't put a stop loss because i like i would say most traders
here out in this twitter space they are they're not like whales like trading millions we are just
like you know putting maybe between let's say a thousand and 50k into something i would say like this is the majority
of people trading and you know i know for a fact that people don't use stop losses and shit and
then they get liquidated like what the fuck are you doing man and i had this mentality in the past
and it takes like you think i really think when you tweet about it and make it public that you are stupid, you will actually might change.
And I hope I actually change my behavior because of this.
That's why I'm also talking about it on my channel because we are all like that, man.
And I think you all were in the past like this and I'm just in an early stage of it.
So I'm still at this stage of doing a little bit stupid deejant stuff but yeah
yeah i think i would take it even one step further i think like stop loss is fine what boggles my
mind is these guys who have i don't know fucking seven figs and they put it all into perps like
don't even don't even deposit it like put a put us like three million you're fucking set
i don't understand why you need it okay Okay. Instead of losing 12 million, you lost 8 million, but you're still fine.
Like I don't understand because I have some friends who are friends with some of these giga whales and I don't know.
It just boggles my mind when I hear someone lost 100 million.
The seven fake ones is one thing, but what about the guys like October 10th?
You're seeing guys that lost like RIP Bonk guy.
I think Bonk guy is a fucking Chadad but like what did he lose 35 million or
something in like an hour and it's like and so crazy to me like just put five of those 35 just
put five of them aside like you lost 30 million but you're still fine i don't understand it's so
irresponsible to set a trade off that could potentially even let that happen though
is what it is like like having that much money and trying to trade perps and then not like setting cross margin up
and not having stop losses and stuff like that i mean that is like a absurd amount of risk like
and yeah it is you do have to kind of like blame them in a way when it happens because like how are
you trading that much money and you don't know that that's like a risk. I mean, of course no one can see 10, 10 coming, but I've like, I think trading without stop
losses is crazy.
I actually counter trade myself.
Like I'll, I'll pick like an entry and where my stop loss would be.
And then actually don't take the entry until it hits where I would have had my stop loss
at, because like, I know what I'm looking at, but I fucked the timing up so bad by trying
to move too early.
So a lot of times
if I like make my theoretical stop loss and then don't take the position until it hits that spot,
I do much better than just trying to like impulsively move. Of course, unless you're
like waiting for a setup, but I think people don't usually wait for setups that are trading either.
Like new leverage traders are more or less just like going off gut feeling up or down.
When like people that make money leverage trading are waiting for setups, like they're
waiting for a specific setup to hit.
Like me thinking I got this shit, then it hits the stop loss that I made up in my head.
That's the setup because I thought I saw what I saw, but it wasn't quite there yet type
shit or just some kind of a method like that.
And everyone has their own methods because we all interpret things
differently. Right.
It's like the same kind of shit where like someone does a drive by shooting
and like six people see it, you're going to have like six different,
you know, reports of like what actually took place.
Yeah, dude.
Actually I'm glad you came up high functioning and Dave,
I invited both with you because I remember we had some conversations in the
last couple of you are
I had never spoken to interview until I think we have meet as our common buddy
And then you came up I was like them these guys are based
So I usually I don't invite people who are just listening, but I saw you down there. So oh, man
Thanks. Thanks for saying that we're based or that I'm based um
Yeah, now I'll say something terrible.
Like, most people will not like this at all, but it's true.
And I'm going to try to do it without sounding pompous.
If you haven't been trading for a decade, you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
And if you have been trading for a decade, you probably still don't know what you're doing.
Like, there's actual trading, like what people do for a living,
not like some hobby job bullshit that you kind of see in crypto. And then there's crypto trading.
And here a little bit of inside information, a little bit of like bad habits that pay off just
aping shit, buying green candles and somehow still getting paid for it. You know, an airdrop coming
around and bailing your ass out
like there's there's a lot of like forgiveness that i think people are taking for granted and
when things like 10 10 happen or when real volatility happens or when there's like
an adversarial player with some real size like they're just gonna eat your lunch and i'm not
i'm not like the the best trader in the world who's immune from all this shit.
I get wrecked all the time too.
But part of the reason that this space is so great is that it is forgivable.
You will not have, I don't know, it's like there's so many advantages to trading and operating here versus TradFi.
But it's going more and more closer to what TradFi is.
I don't know.
Most of the trading gurus on CT, they've been trading for like two years.
I'm not even convinced they've had a winning trade.
If they can't read an open interest options chain,
like if we can't go look at fucking options and we can't read open interest together
and I can't tell that you know what you're talking about,
you're not a trader, dude.
Yeah.
You're a sentiment trader.
We could say that. you're a sentiment trader We could say that you're a sentiment trader, but like as like truly truly understanding charts and and
It's like bro, but I got this TA It's like, you know
Just go to a professional shop and tell me how many charts you see in the foot on the floor
No, like it's you that's doing that nobody else
Yeah, and there's you that's doing that. Nobody else. Yeah. And there's so many LARPs.
There's a few people who actually trade and like, but the problem is that like it's incentivized
to be LARPing too.
Like you, even if you lose trades, you can fucking just pretend you open a long and a
short at the same time, post the P&L card.
Oh, I'm a genius.
Fucking someone paid me to.
Oh, Honey XPT, bro.
You remember Honeygate?
Yeah.
He's been posting for years.
And it was like minimum trade size.
Every trade was $10, every direction, on every asset.
And just like taking the P&L cards that look good.
Kind of based, I guess.
Wasn't it revealed that it was a dude, too?
Yes, also it was a guy.
Oh, my God.
No, that's what I mean, though.
Sweet like Honey.
Yeah, I don't know. I guess, like, I don't know. I didn't come up here to sound like too much of a dick. But, like I mean though. Sweet like money.
I don't know. I didn't come up here to sound like too much of a dick.
But just don't take it too seriously.
It's going to take a long time to learn how to trade.
I don't know.
There's a self-seriousness problem in crypto.
It's a forgiving space. Have fun.
That's a good take.
It does. And the other side of it is the actual traders that make the most money here dude they sit on their hands and they sit on stables for a hot
minute and they wait for that setup and when it's time that is why like that's why like when alt
season comes we're gonna get like an instant 5x before the ethcoins start running because there's
a lot of money just waiting for the confirmation waiting for for the setup, and then striking, right? And on the TA side of things, it's good for short-term swinging,
but you can't really do TA on crypto too, too well, too, too far out
until you get to way bigger timeframes and way more patience.
I chart meme coins sometimes because it's fun to push along with the other shit in the community,
and you can kind of use it like a ruler to identify market making but it absolutely doesn't tell you where the price is
going like none of that matters we're dealing with like extremely low liquid that can be
pushed around with like 20 grand you know so definitely it's a it's a goofy space though
it's definitely a goofy space and and on the leverage side of things, we are.
We're moving more and more and more to being just like you're trading on Wall Street
without the options chain, of course, for now.
Yo, go ahead.
Yo, just, well, this is just random, but I just want to thank Ethan for buying my coin on base
because he bought, he invested in my coin, 40 cents, so
probably, like, he's a backholder now.
Bro, you're totally good.
Bro, I remember downloading
Zora and connecting my
X, and before I'd posted
anything, like, at all,
my coin went to, like, a 70k
market cap and had, tens of uh thousands of
dollars pass through it and i made like 300 dollars in creator fees like the first like 10
minutes of having the app bro ethan you baited me by the way with your tweet you said like oh i got
like free money from from sora like 120 bucks and i was like bro i need to download this app now like
i did it from your link.
And like,
I was like,
where the fuck is my money?
I also did that now.
Like,
like,
like what the fuck?
And then I just like,
so okay,
actually you baited me just to download on your link,
but I support you,
man.
Ethan getting his,
getting his first taste of the KOL auto grift.
Like any of these social five apps where you just link a Twitter and there's some kind of coin or something tied to it,
you just sign up and then all the bots buy you
because you have a big Twitter and you make some fees.
I've done it on 30 apps.
Some bots bought my coin because of Ethan.
Don't buy these coins.
They bought my coin.
Yeah, then he buys your coin and then they'll buy your coin.
Yeah, it's kind of funny.
Yeah, exactly.
Big account gets you some pennies out of these apps, man.
Always.
Yeah, bro. Paid fories out of these apps, man. Always. Yeah,
bro.
Paid for lunch.
I was really happy.
I was listening to the fair market shopping list earlier.
I definitely liked it.
I heard like hype and pump mentioned a lot.
Like those are definitely on my list.
Is no one looking at Monero?
Just out of curiosity.
I love Monero.
We're talking about it.
What was this cook? Like four days ago? Five days ago?
Every time Zcash gets a lot of momentum, I always start talking about Monero.
Because I believe Zcash to like...
Well, it's not what I believe. It's actually true.
But it's like, you know, a corporate cabal scam.
It's not even really a privacy coin.
So I like Monero a lot. I don't have a lot of it.
But I'll throw a little bit of money into Monero every once in a while i've been buying a bit and uh yeah i'm a big fan
like yeah i don't want to like just shill it super heavily actually the motto is don't buy monero
i guess if you're into monero you know um but it looks good it looks i don't know the the cypherpunk
ideals the way that you know monero devs are acting the whole thing like it i don't know the the cypherpunk ideals the way that you know monero
devs are acting the whole thing like it i don't know it's like resembling bitcoin ideals these
days a lot more than bitcoin is and i like what i like about it dave is like and i don't have a
lot of monero like to be very clear like this isn't a big bag it's just something i started
to throw like dust at and like i'm gonna build up a little bag of it. But I like it because I do think privacy is a very important narrative.
Like I care about privacy a lot and I'm really worried about the CBD-ification of the world.
Because like we're going to get CBD-Cs in every major country eventually.
Zcash is not going to solve that.
But Monero is like the last remaining or cleanest remaining on-chain way
to have completely private money.
And so I think it's important to have a little bag of Monero.
Yeah, Monero is kind of like the OG Bitcoinized version of privacy.
Just like a relentless group of people that will just make sure
that it never gets co-opted
or fucked in any way yeah so like it's cool the other thing that's cool to look out for is like
you know there's there's a lack of smart contracts on on minute like you're limited as to what you
can really do with it but some of those chains that are working on like the fhe stuff some of
the zk stuff that will make that kind of tech more extensible that are not maybe vc
driven whatever one single cycle built pieces of shit like some of those may be worth taking a look
at too um do you guys know anything about this railgun thing on eath yeah i love railgun here
i've i've been seeing like stuff about it i don't know a whole lot about it um i've been paying
attention to the cypher eath protocol that mont blanc's trying to bootstrap and i saw them start mentioning it um and i was just curious like could you tell
me anything about i can tell you a little bit about it i used to have a deal with them like
they paid me for some ambassador stuff like i don't know two years ago and i was talking about
them a lot but uh so i don't have a deal with them and it's been at least a year but i like it and
it's very cool um it's like a it's a set of contracts so you can completely
like send eth in completely private ways like if you send it through railgun contracts and they
have when i was talking about them they were working on a bunch of wallet integrations
so it's getting like easier and easier to use but uh i'll skip to the real bear the real the real
bull case for it for me is that vititaLik actually uses it a lot.
And from time to time, you'll see VitaLik put $10 million through Railgun
to send something from one place to the other.
So to me, as a privacy solution on top of ETH,
Railgun is the biggest, best, first.
It's the one you should care about.
And the token's done really well in this Zcash.
When I was talking
about it they were like no one cared about privacy but uh when zcash took off rail the token did
very well so i see it as the best privacy like bet on ease nice yeah i don't understand much about
it i did a little bit of light reading i saw people complaining that it was not very easy to
use but i understand that there's more UI coming
to make that a little bit more friendly
for people that aren't super-duper tech-savvy.
A big privacy bet on ETH.
I don't know.
A lot of people aren't talking about this.
You guys might want to take a look at Aztec Network.
Oh, I've heard of that.
I've never looked into it, but I've heard of it.
Is it AZ or AS?
AZ, right?
Yeah.
I think so.
That's correct.
Shit, change of topic.
Just really quickly, we'll get back on the...
I just want to say, if you got into the wet presale,
the fucking Jupiter Launchpad 1, 3X,
you can claim your tokens right now.
So, yeah.
Might want to look into that if you bid.
But, yeah, I would much rather own Monero than fucking Seacash.
Cook, did you see the, what was it?
Arkham Intelligence, they put out
something like their...
I didn't quite understand, I didn't look into it, but
they were like...
Does anyone know the story on that?
What did they do? I don't know.
I'll print it.
It was like, they have like a
fucking...
And then they sold it like
are we shocked yeah i saw that earlier today on the timeline as well wait what did they do i didn't
hear what you said dave no they bought a bunch they bought a bunch of it when it was cheap
they sent it to an exchange and they sold it all yeah that's basically all they're saying like
yeah i mean look at the chart like uh- uh-huh. It's probably what happened.
Yeah, I just pinned it. I don't know the full story. Like I said, I just like came across this, but I saw Mert was like funding R-CAM. Surprise, surprise.
Oh, yeah. No, Zcash was totally an institutional scam. Like, so, yeah, they bought it all and then they pumped it with KOLs and they sold it yeah of course is that what we're
saying and like four four foundations yeah now it's partnership deals on the same day halfway
to their all-time high did you see somebody tried to create like a zcash engine or whatever like a
or zcash strategy and zcash corporate legal team was like sending them cease and desist like it's
the most anti-crypto thing ever run by an institution.
And then you got these guys like Mert and everyone else all over Twitter
being like, this is the anti-establishment, anti-institutional coin.
No, like literally 20% of every block that's mined,
the rewards go to Electric Coin Company Incorporated,
which is the Israeli-backed company affiliated with the CIA
that created Zcash.
It's the most corporate,
scam,
anti-privacy coin that exists.
It's ridiculous.
A trade is a trade.
I had some at some point.
I sold it and made a little bit of money.
But, bro, it's not a privacy coin.
And it is not anti-institutional.
All those things are true.
I don't know about the CIA,
whatever.
That's like a rumor that it's linked
because they're like a kilometer away from the CIA
or something like on Google Maps.
Oh my God.
Do you guys remember,
do you know this tweet of the,
wait, what the fuck was it?
I think it was the MakerDoll,
like lead dev,
like from 2021.
And he put out this tweet,
like the CIA,
like run a pedophile ring,
they're going to kill me.
And he's dead like two days after.
Yeah, he drowned.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's an epic tweet, bro.
Like, yeah, I wonder what happened.
I would love to know really what happened there.
Seems like, well, I don't want to say it.
They're going to come for me too.
But wait, we have the lawyer on stage.
Maybe she's got some crazy stuff to say.
I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, but hello.
I've been called way worse
the last couple days i've heard i've heard that a lawyer she's like works for the law firm that
berwick law that's like i think they're based actually they're trying are you kidding that's
this is great wasn't it berwick law no no i'm not trying to be um i thought you worked for berwick
law that's not accurate but that's okay.
No, I wanted to kind of talk about the Zcash thing.
Just because this is, I do a lot of trademark work.
And I see this in two ways.
And I kind of just wanted your guys' opinion on it to see if it changes anything.
anything. So Zcash has registered trademarks. I pulled them all up. And with trademarks,
So Zcash has registered trademarks.
I pulled them all up.
if you don't actively police your trademark, you run the risk of losing it. So they were doing what
they had to do to protect their brand and not mislead consumers. Does that change anybody's
feelings? No, that confirms it even further that it's an institutional scam.
Like that's the whole point.
A real grassroots privacy crypto would not have trademarks.
It would not be run by an institution.
There's no Monero organization that's going to come after you if you start talking about Monero.
Like it's just not the privacy anti-establishment coin that the ball that was making money off the back of pumping it was trying to convince everyone it is. That's all. That's my issue. I mean, I get it. And I was just
curious to see if that made things better or worse. I've had this conversation with a few people,
and that's honestly been the main answer that I've gotten has been like, well, we understand
the trademark thing, but it makes it worse because it completely takes away from what they said they were.
So I just wanted to see
what you guys thought about that.
So thank you for your input.
And honestly, as somebody that defends trademarks,
I kind of agree with you guys.
Like, I don't mind that they are defending a trademark.
Like if you have a trademark, go defend it.
I understand what they're doing and why,
but that is confirmation that they are not some anti-institutional privacy coin.
It's confirmation that they are completely institutional.
One quick note on Zcash.
There's a lot of parts of it that suck.
That 20% dev tax.
Obviously, this is a legal thing that we're discussing now.
Don't think a lot of people know about this right now,
but there is a suckless fork of Zcash
that's out right now called Juno.
Not chilling it.
I'm not saying you should buy it.
I'm not saying anything like that,
but you can take a look at it.
It's called Juno Cash.
Oh, by the way,
it's fine chilling on my
stage as long as it's
somewhat established.
I'm going to fork it and make
Kuk cash and 69% of the
mining rewards go to me.
And it's actually Friday.
You can do that, yeah.
You can make 69% of the rewards go to
you what they did instead was they got rid of asics so there's no asics on the network everyone
everyone with cpu can mine it uh like monero they used bitcoin tokenomics so they don't have
an ever-increasing supply forever the way that monero does and they got rid of that 20 whatever
um weird dev thing that they have so So it's a completely fair launch.
I don't know.
It's kind of awesome that someone did this.
So is it like Zcash where it's not like privacy first?
Oh, yeah.
I forgot that part.
Yeah.
So that opt-out of privacy thing, yeah, it's completely removed from the fork.
It's only private. You can only operate with a
shielded address.
That's cool. I bought some Monero.
That part's cool. How do you buy it?
I'm not going to buy it, but I'm curious to know.
Because it's kind of hard to buy Monero, right?
But it's easy to buy Zcash. So where do you buy this thing?
Yeah, just like Monero.
People will tell you, don't buy it.ash. So where do you buy this thing? Yeah, just like Minero, people will tell you don't buy it.
The ideal thing is for you to go and turn on a CPU or rent some hash and get yourself some.
If you really want to, I guess you could take your risks doing some OTC.
It's not on any market.
It probably won't be for a while.
I don't think anyone in that community or just based on the feel of it,
I don't think they're like hitting up exchanges for listings i don't you know so you can just mine it pretty easily with a gpu right now
cpu cpu oh sick yeah sorry you said that let's go
oh shit um holy fuck um andrew are you going i got got to go to the gym before I got my meeting.
Some of us, you know, do stuff.
I guess I have jobs.
Going to the gym.
Fuck, dude, I need to pick that up.
Tell you to go back, bro.
There's no better time.
Market's not sexy.
Everyone's complaining how fucking boring it is.
You get to the gym.
Or, like, go outside, surf, do something.
I don't know.
Yeah, I do have some motivation.
Buy a dog.
Yeah, you can do that too.
Good idea. Buy a dog. But, like, honestly some motivation. Yeah, you can do that too. Good idea buy a dog
But like honestly bigger dogs better than smaller dogs personal preference
I got a German Shepherd he's 13 so he's kind of on the end of the lifespan, but totally agree
I thought Kuro said buy dog like
dog like goodbye dog my dog and rest that dog in and I wanted to ask babe
Goodbye dog my dog
Dave are you like working from milady or Amelia no no no not at all this isn't
like the eyes that you see these are Megalio eyes like they're naughty it's
not even a lady so I was just looking at your profile a million did I I saw that
we were talking about earlier.
You probably saw the tweet with the BD woman.
I don't know what to call her.
Uh, or it's like, maybe I can find her name, but what the fucking
milators were going crazy in the replies and that just, I don't know.
It made me want to buy like two more, not as an investment.
I just love how they did.
Bobby's a goat.
Um, you know, Bobby, Dave.
Yeah.
He's so funny, dude.
He's so fucking funny.
Oh, shit.
Cool.
Dave, do you work?
Employed or are you just
trading and doing your own thing?
No, I just crypto.
It's been like that for, I think,
like two years right now.
Yeah.
That's so nice. I'm very lucky with my
role. It's like they're pretty liberal with me like I don't have all these
obligations to be on every single meeting and stuff but I think if I had
to I don't think I could do it. I'm a bit unemployable like I like to sleep in
and I don't do my own thing as i go so i was very
clear on that when i when i signed yo ethan yo um i just saw something from dgen news and i don't
know it's kind of baffling to me yeah i just pinnedragment, which is a ton NFT marketplace, just flipped Hyperliquid in 24-hour revenue.
What?
Which makes no sense.
Do you think it's like washfitting? Wait, this is an NFT marketplace.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Those who don't know, I used to be the ton blockchain intern for their Twitter, right?
But we had so much hassle getting people to
actually use the chain um we had to like bring over the board ape suzuki um chimpers to do like
sticker pack launches and shit like that but at the end of the day it was just like there was a
sale and then secondary trading volume like basically non-existent. So seeing fragment of all things flip high liquid in 24-hour revenue,
that doesn't make any sense.
Especially right now, because who the fuck talks about ton?
I know they were talking about doing some stickers or something,
like some ton stickers.
Did they do that?
Is that the reason why they've had this crazy sales?
Yeah, a couple of them have done really well.
The Pepe ones were like 20k each at some point, but that was a little while ago.
I don't know what would be driving this volume.
Some crazy Russian sticker or something.
Yeah, they did Khabib's stickers.
They were potentially going to be doing Conor McGregor,
but Conor McGregor and Khabib had some beef about that so I don't know
I was literally having lunch with the head of
growth how many days
ago like five six
days ago I won't
say what happened in that lunch
but yeah okay I'll just skip
over it because I don't want to drop him in any hot shit
but I don't know. Tom is
just a chain that no one actually
uses and I'm pretty
sure that the token will still keep going down.
It was at a high of $7.50
a token. Now it's at $1.50.
So it's down like 80-90%.
It'll go under a dollar.
There's many such cases.
I feel like we have more chains than fucking
users right now.
What we don't have is a bunch of
chains that are
tacked onto something that has a huge
user base.
That's why
they've been pretty bad at moving their
I don't know, they said they have a billion users
or something.
They've been pretty bad at moving them onto the chain.
Do you think that's going to be forever?
I think that Tawn, like, man, if they would properly integrate it into Telegram and make this stuff,
like, I'm a crypto power user, and I've used Fragment, and I've used Tawn in Telegram,
and it is almost impossible.
Like, they make it so hard.
So, yeah, if they could figure it out like if telegram had a
seamless chain that was fully integrated that you could use easily which should be tawn then i think
the upside is very high because telegram is the best messaging app nothing's ever going to touch
it but uh they make it way too hard and weird have like the wallet integrated in america no it's in
there like you can get well i don't know about in America,
but you can get...
It's in America.
There's a wallet in there,
but it's just hard to use
and very weird and very shitty.
That's probably why you don't know it's in there.
The integration into Telegram is horrible.
I don't...
Yeah.
If you search at wallet,
it's there.
It's in a Telegram mini app sort of thing.
And it does work in America now, I think, since like September maybe.
But I don't think it changes anything.
And it's not the right market for people to want to swap chains.
You know, people moved from Ethereum to Solana at one point
because Solana was just a better chain.
I don't think Ton does anything that Solana at one point because Solana was just a better chain.
I don't think Ton does anything that Solana doesn't already do and Solana probably does
it better.
So there's no real reason for a user to ever want to go on Ton, especially since no one's
there.
There's no liquidity.
Ethan, what's driving all this volume on Fragment?
Do you know?
Today or whatever?
I don't know.
It has to be wash
trading has anyone heard of anything like to flip hyper liquid i don't know i mean it sounds so
so i'm not gonna lie ethan when you were the ton intern did you did you meet or have meetings with
pavel no um pavel never talks about ton um unless it's about the nft gift so
you remember like plush peppers ones went to 20k yeah um he bull posted them like once or twice
like near the top um and then he hasn't really talked about them ever again and since then, he's released his own NFT gifts like maybe once a month.
So he'll push them on his Telegram channel.
He'll say, look, we're doing this, we're doing that.
People will buy them primary, like primary sale.
He will take all of that money back to Telegram,
and then they'll trade on secondary and usually trade lower.
They did one with Snoop Dogg, Khabib, some other people.
In my opinion, it's just a max extraction chain to make Pavel and Telegram money.
Interesting.
We have Vo. What's up? It's been a while.
Ethan, were you actually the Tawn intern?
Yeah. Ethan were you actually the the Tan intern? Yeah
Did they like not make you sign an NDA
when you left?
Fuck no
They broke their contract
with me so
I'll break mine and I don't even
they never even made me sign an NDA
so yeah
I can say what the fuck I want
the whole team are fucking idiots
they're slow
they don't know what they're doing
and they
got rid of me in a way which was completely
out of contract
and almost made me completely bankrupt
and basically homeless in Dubai
so fuck them
damn yeah that's fucked up
it's also like very strange because Ton is like fairly legitimate company.
Right. And like, I don't know when, when I was leaving Magic Eden,
like you obviously sign like an NDA if you get severance or whatever.
And usually when you join a company, you sign like a multi-year NDA,
but not that I have anything bad to say, yeah that's that's crazy that one they did that
to you and two like yeah i guess they didn't have grounds to issue one or anything so yeah that sucks
i'm sorry no it's totally chill i i don't talk about it much but it just came up in conversation
just because uh the pin tweet i was like what the fuck how did that happen damn i got i got gifted a uh a ton uh nft by victor that that's what oh he's a dick what's wrong with him he's always been
lovely what's wrong with him bro i i had a one hour meeting with victor every single day um but
the whole time i worked there um so in my contract and i can't talk about because
there is no nba there was very specifically and i'll i'd be happy to upload it if victor wants to
fucking say i'm lying um there was a bit where it says non-compete or whatever the legal term is and
it said not applicable and then exclusivity underneath that not applicable okay
so i signed the contract i'm gonna get paid this amount of money per month i'm thinking great i can
take this money from ton and i can get sponsorships promotional deals uh maybe a second job elsewhere
um because it wasn't a lot of money but it was like enough money so it gets to the point where i've joined up i'm
signed um i'm working for them and i say look i've got this offer from this other company to do some
promotional work and they go no you can't do that and i go why you can't and i say well it's not on
my contract and this is victor talking to me about when he says no you can't you have the tom badge on your profile that means you can't and i said well we didn't agree that um so yeah he basically just like me because he knew that i couldn't quit
the job because i wouldn't have enough money to live but in my contract it was like i totally
could do that but i was i cornered basically not much i could do did you um because yeah I've obviously done that like at
Magic Eden I could have taken other deals I just didn't and now at Avalabs I actually took a one
with Calci um but obviously it took like a lot of time and thought to get like to that and I
am still promoting AVAX through that because they're partners but um I think the interesting
thing is it's probably like did you like tell them before
you got hired or during the interview process that you wanted to take outside deals because
if so and they were cool that that's pretty fucked up but otherwise it is like fairly normal for
companies to have to like work with the compliance team and do dd on any partners but to say outright no is kind of a bit harsh.
Well how it worked was I think this was June we had like our interviews they got me through
they sent me the contract before I signed it then I looked at it I saw that there was no
exclusivity and there was no non-compete so i was like okay that
means i can take other deals so i didn't even like need to ask them because like that means i can take
other deals so i sign it and then they tell me no you can't take other deals um so it's just so it's
like one of them um whatever happened it's Because after I left, I started making more money anyway.
So it all worked out for the better.
And I'm glad that I came away from Tom just because it means I have like a lot more flexibility
and what I can actually post and what I can do.
Um, I think the whole thing was a net negative, a net positive for me.
Um, I wish the majority of the team very well.
Victor's a dick.
Fucking hate him.
Zenith, great guy.
Everyone else who works a ton.
Great.
Great people.
But Victor's a real fucking dick.
Like, when I left, I was told by the head of growth
that Victor wanted to absolutely ruin my image
and like completely like like disgrace me in front of the whole um which i'm called the whole
ecosystem of like crypto um make some tweets from a ton account and uh the head of growth
stopped him doing that so i'm very thankful to to martin massa for that really nice guy
and that was the guy i said i had lunch with a few days ago in Dubai.
On a non-personal,
not specific to your case,
question,
why do you think they've been so bad
at onboarding the
gigantic user base that they have?
Because that's really what's been holding them back.
What do you think the reason is base that they have because that's that's really what's been like holding them back what do you think what do you think the reason is for that that that was like basically my
like not my personal entire job but like the entire job with everyone on the team was trying
to do that and i think it's for the very simple reason that the no one that really uses telegram also really wants to use crypto on telegram if you we all
use telegram for things like alpha groups and things like that but we don't go on telegram
and think oh i'm going to start trading crypto while i'm on telegram using a mini app i would
love to click a shakecoin ca and instantly buy rather than copy-paste it.
Yeah.
So that's why you have like Maestro or Bloom, right? But that doesn't use TonChain.
That uses SolanaChain, but it's just a mini-app within Ton, or Telegram, sorry,
that you can use to interact with Solana, if that makes sense.
So there's no reason.
But like if I could be in like in a group chat with the homies
and I could just click the CA and like every that you could build
social features around it you know I don't have to go to another bot like I
just think there's crypto lives in telegram and they're just blowing it by
not having real like proper integration I am in europe and everything is already integrated uh smoothly uh into telegram
i use telegram primarily for crypto games and it all works for me so it's just because you're
in the u.s and you uh don't have yet access to the wallet in telegram probably that's the issue but
here in Europe everything works fine and I don't know why you are so clueless
about everything that's happening on telegram but right now there are big giveaways happening everywhere on Telegram for gifts, NFTs, and people are participating in it.
I just don't understand why everyone here hasn't heard a word about it.
Hey, can you guys hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you fine.
Okay, cool.
Yo, what's up, guys? Just testing to to see if Twitter spaces work in Abu Dhabi that's really all I wanted to
do but hey guys I'm much for that like my main thing about the telegram like
wallet is I don't like the proximity of the wallet being that close to the
messaging app I know it's been a while but
i was using like other like trading bots and on telegram and i remember there has been a time or
two where like if you're not careful and you touch something that you shouldn't link wise in telegram
like i think my banana bot got drained one time for like it wasn't a lot it was like less than a
soul because i don't usually keep a lot of soul in the bots.
But I think like there's a security, at least a concern for me who I am admittedly not super well versed in web security and this shit.
But like I would feel animosity towards having a wallet directly connected to the Messenger app that I'm using.
It's a standalone app. I don understand how it is uh in any way uh connected to everything else in the messages that i mean are you purview to any type of criticism towards taun like
i think you can understand pretty clearly that when you're dealing with messages,
oftentimes people will send you a link or something.
It's a very clear communication channel where there's a risk factor
if you have a wallet that's directly integrated.
I think that's a very valid concern.
But the wallet stands in the...
It's the in-app browser, and you just open the wallet stands in the... It's the in-app browser,
and you just open the wallet
and do all operations inside the wallet app.
I don't think you understand what he's saying.
I think he's a Telegram wallet dev, to be honest.
No, no, no, no, no.
I just use Telegram because I live in italy and switzerland uh and everything
works smooth here and i had to do also the id verification to uh stay um in the crypto wallet
verified into crypto wallet in telegram to uh activate the uh tokenized talks uh who's speaking right now
i can't see him either um you're saying like djana if you're using tawn keeper or something like
that like it's it's a plug-in like no no no in tawn itself right in telegram exactly exactly okay in the us probably i saw that uh no one has
access yet to wallet what it's called wallet and it's a an app on telegram uh that lets you buy crypto and now also stocks, crypto stocks.
But also wallet can integrate Tom wallets like Tom Keeper, but that's a secondary part of the wallet app.
Yeah, I don't know how to explain it better. You just have to look at, I don't know,
if it's not available to you.
It's just a separate app that it's called Wallet
and you can-
But it's gonna be like in your messages, right?
Like it would be like in your messages on Telegram.
Like it was like a separate wallet.
No, no, no.
Right.
So essentially, like how is that different than like the bulk wallet or like any of the trading bot wallets that hold your money there like for you when you're there?
Because I know like they're just accessing.
Technically, it's just a tool that's accessing a wallet that you give it access to.
So like if those things can be exploited, if those things can be exploited via clicking a link, unless it's completely separate, I don't see how this is not possible to have the same type of exploitation.
No, I'm not a dev. I cannot really tell how it's been built on the backend.
You're just saying you've used it successfully is what you're trying to convey.
Yes, I never had a problem, crypto scams, I never had my wallet drained.
And right now, if you do transactions and there are daily tasks on telegram.
And if you do them, you get into giveaways.
And it's about using stone fight to swap between stone and
tone or USTT and buy tokenized stocks, exchange with other crypto and you get rewarded.
I mean, now I understand why not many people are competing into these giveaways and they have just more chances to win
because it seems
like the US has been
cut out from
everybody's poor for one
we're all poor
we're concentrating on like three chains in
Tan, I didn't even know you could trade Tan through
Telegram so I guess that's probably another one of them
yeah I don't
I think on just on ton uh
and what on kook said i'd love to just be able to uh just tap buy on a fucking ca
that in certain channels i'm in because it would just make me more competitive in the market and
i'd have an edge over other people who aren't using it right because that split second from copy pasting that CA in can be different than getting in like 20k versus like
200k so completely get that aspect before like a ton of failing massively through not integrating
that I mean you'd think like a multi-billion dollar company would be able to find a way to
integrate that I'm sure that I'm sure at some point down the line I'll be able to do that
um but completely agree with what the other person said well i don't feel safe having any money
on telegram at all like i don't the amount of people who have had to charge like 10 dollars
to message them so random fuckers stop spam dming them with like scam links and shit i'm i'm like so
scared of clicking on them like i just won't i won't even open. Like I'm scared to even open the fucking messages, you know?
Even like if I'll message like bandit or whatever the fuck.
Like I try and double, triple check that it's them.
Because like I've had people LARPing as me.
Like I'm a fucking nobody in this space.
And there's like LARP accounts of me trying to spam, scam others.
Like I'm pretty sure I've had like five different kooks try to scam me before.
I'm sure I'll get a few bandits
messaging me too, saying,
how's it going, bro?
It's insane.
I feel like it's the most scammy
social media platform of all time,
purely from just the amount of scammers
who are on it.
What makes you feel safe
for staying on Solana?
Probably because people don't have direct...
All right, let me just explain this
because I'm not going to lose...
They can't steal my identity. Yeah because they can't steal my yeah they can't steal my identity as well they can't dm me on solana
scandals like i get fudded because of fake activity maybe i don't know how you don't realize
how you can't get scammed on solana and why Telegram is slightly more risky than a fucking blockchain.
I don't even keep my money in trading bots like Photon.
Like if I hit a lick on Photon.
Oh yeah, it's cool.
Yeah, I'm the same.
I'm the same.
I'm the same.
Right into a wallet.
Yeah, I'm the exact same as you.
Yeah, I think DJ, I think it's good for you to like hear this maybe and like the other case for why people might not want to use torn because
obviously i don't have random people from different countries spamming me with scam
links on serana that this doesn't really happen occasionally i'll get like a scam nft
drop to my phantom wallet but that's about as bad as about as bad as it gets as long as you
don't interact with like the random nft that says click this for a million dollars
Then like you should be all good, you know
Versus
Yeah, but these scammers are getting really good as well. It's scary. Some of the telegram scammers are like actually really fucking good
Like I've been to know but I
Successfully scanned for like two souls from like a CA before that fucking suck I've never had a telegram scammer messaging me.
You've never had a telegram scam message?
Do you use telegram?
Yes.
That's crazy, bro.
No one out of nowhere comes and sends me a link to click.
Guys, I can clear this up.
This is, we exist like versus Djan.
We're just existing in different parts of crypto entirely.
Like he's farming Telegram apps that are big in Russia and Europe and stuff.
And we're in like CT where everyone has this pseudo identity.
And so, yeah, they've, you know, there's 20 fake kooks, five fake bandits,
like they're going after anyone that might know you.
Like it's just different worlds within crypto.
I'm sure people have found the way how to profit from Telegram.
But right now it's been weeks. I have not listened to ATP.
And I just have to chime in to all these other spaces.
Yeah, I'll be back to hosting myself tomorrow, bro.
And maybe Bandit might pull up as well.
I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
But yeah, I'll be back tomorrow.
I'll try to.
Also, I have a question.
Koo, when someone asks you what you do
what's the answer because someone asked me what my dad's yeah yeah yeah like my dad's friend asked
me like oh so what's your son doing and then i say i work in digital marketing don't say crypto ever
never say crypto bro what are you doing digital marketing digital marketing is lit because then
when they ask yeah one time i had this they just start talking super technical and they'll stop listening.
You just have to say finance.
Yeah, I always say digital marketing and you never get follow-up questions.
Just say FinTech.
They don't know what it is, so they're not going to ask.
I might say Polymark.
No, FinTech invites –
Don't say FinTech.
FinTech, you get too many follow-up questions.
I've tried a bunch of different answers.
Digital marketing is a good one
because usually most people don't give a shit
because it sounds boring.
Yeah, you want no follow-up questions,
something that sounds boring.
Say you're an accountant.
An accountant.
I'm going to say I'm a Telegram giveaway.
I'm a TG giveaway host.
I DM people links on Telegram for a living.
Don't ask me how it's profitable.
Hey, you know it's... Yeah, I'm a fake. I'm a fake fan on Tele me how it's profitable hey you know it's
yeah I'm a fake I'm a fake
it's a fucking bear market game that's legitimately what some people do like every day is like
bro I talked to one of the fake kooks one time cuz like I was getting flooded with
that beaver guy got fun he got he got scammed for a shit coin or something he
paid some fake kook and uh
yeah i messaged the guy at one point i'm like hey bro i'm getting a lot of people like talking
shit to me over this like fake kook shit you want to stop and he's like honestly bro
it's really profitable i'm from a poor country like i'm never gonna stop and then he blocked me
like that is actually a fake vote but it was like a calls channel and I'm like not a traitor
Voh the caller, it's the new
And they had like thousands of members
And I was like hey
This base is actually so cooked
I remember seeing your one
It was a kook gems channel
It made it look legit
In my actual Telegram channel,
a guy advertises a DGEN Gems channel
and he pays for the advertisements
and I have no way to stop it.
And I get DMs and they're like,
is this really your channel?
I'm like, no, do not go in there.
And people will tweet like...
There's a service that can get them removed.
It's called Doppel.
Magic uses them for IP takedowns and stuff,
but they work pretty well.
I didn't think your TG was still sort of thinking after all the meme coins believe it or not their other business model is
it's not it's on hibernation carl didn't you have like a case with an imposter or drain or
some shit like that a few days ago yeah this weekend on fucking telegram bro that's why i've
just been laughing this entire time like i'm like so thrilled that like degenerate says that people
don't scam on there somebody pretended to be uh what's his name lofo and like i didn't think
anything of it i just sent him the 2500 bucks and then like yeah it's the end of that bro i'm not
gonna fucking sweat fucking the money because like it always comes back to me so I don't care. Well you made some money
yesterday. There you go.
There you go.
Yeah exactly bro.
Exactly.
Yo bro.
How did they get you?
Now they use the same exact handle but they're using
letters from a different alphabet
and it somehow looks the same.
I have Lofo's phone number. I've never talked to him letters from like a different alphabet and it somehow looks the same like bro i never have
lofus phone number i've never talked to him on telegram i have no reason to talk to him on
telegram like there's zero reason there's a new update that says if someone like cold dms you it
tells you when their account was made in which country they're from which is actually pretty
baller and it saved me a few times. I have a gate on mine
so you can't message me. It costs stars.
If you have like Telegram Premium.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Oh, let's do that.
I've had that for like a year.
That's why anyone's like, oh, you
sent me this on Telegram. No, I didn't, bro.
You can't even message me.
Oh, that saved me a lot of headache.
I used to get so many fucking scam DMs.
But then how do your friends message?
I mean, I guess they probably have your number anyway, right?
So, maybe that's how.
Yeah, once you've messaged somebody,
you can allow them to message you.
Or any contact can message you.
That makes sense.
Yeah, or if they're in your contacts,
they don't even need to ask.
If you just fuck with somebody enough
to be launching money back and forth at each other,
you probably just give them your phone number, right?
Just make the international call if that's what it is.
Yeah, and I figured out where all this trading volume came from.
That's why Fragment was selling anonymous numbers.
What was it, you think the the volume
Ton ton had a partnership with the UFC and then they paid a bunch of influences to promote it like choose rich Nick
Min dynasty
Dbna pin the post base. Well, it was so W them I guess
Yeah, hey, Ethan you got any of those contacts at Tawn?
Because I would take a payment to tweet about some bullshit on Fragment Marketplace.
I think they use Reach Network. I don't know.
Oh, fuck them. Yeah, I don't care about using the network.
I like to use the telegram trenches to have my homies switch out the deal.
No, it's a KOL agency, Reach Network.
all agencies for each network.
I use Fragment to turn
Google Play gift cards
into crypto.
It works.
You just turn them into stars
first and then into crypto
with Fragment.
Bro, what can I do with my stars?
I have so many stars from people paying to message me
because they have to pay in stars, but I don't know what to do
with the stars.
Make a boss. You have to pay in stars, but I don't know what to do with the stars. Make a bot.
I'm not sure.
Make a paid bot, put stars into the bot, and after a month you can cash out.
Wait, I don't understand.
Wait, I don't understand. Wait, you make a bot?
Wait, you make a bot?
I don't get the bot part. Would I have to make a bot?
I don't get the bot part.
Would I have to make a bot?
Yes, make a bot yourself and send stars to the bot.
After a month, you can cash out.
Why can't you just...
Ethan, can't I just convert the stars to money somehow?
Why do I need to make a bot?
I'm pretty sure you can...
It's not the policy.
I'm pretty sure you can just do it on Fragment.
I'm like 99% sure you can just use Fragment.
Or there's actually like a third-party app or mini-app
or whatever the fuck where you send the stars in
and it gives you ton back,
and then you can sell ton into cash.
It feels like a lot of headache.
It's way too tricky.
It's like 10 minutes ever.
Yeah.
It sounds very hard.
Yeah, this is what Cooper's saying.
It's very high friction. This sounds like hard. Yeah, this is what Cooper's saying.
It's very high friction.
Even just hearing about it, I already have a headache just trying to figure out how to
do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it costs 420 stars to message me, so I've actually accumulated quite a bit of stars.
But then I don't know what to do with the stars.
It literally wasn't a way to make money, it's just a way to not get scammers messaging me
because no scammer is going to pay.
That's how you weed them out.
Yeah, that's real.
So do you know what is 420 stars in USD?
I don't know, man.
A couple bucks.
A couple bucks, okay.
Interesting.
The funniest is some people, it's per message.
So some people would write like, yo, and then they paid.
And then the next message would be like, it's a good way to get like one long message
where they're asking you whatever they want to ask you, right?
People write, yo, pay 420.
And then the next message is like, oh, what the fuck?
I just paid like blah, blah, blah for yo.
Yeah, it's your fault.
Do you know if, wait, so if you answer them, does the payment thing go away?
You get a little prompt that says like, remove fee. Oh, then you you answer them, does the payment thing go away? You get a little prompt that says like remove fee.
Oh, then you can bait them. You can be like, what bro?
I didn't understand your question. Just fucking bait them to keep messaging.
You can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't do that.
I'm not trying to griff for three bucks though. That's the fake kooks.
Wait, bro. My phone isn't working. Can you send that again?
You need to ask one of those
fake kooks how you can get rid of your stars they'll tell you yeah oh yeah they'll take the
stars happily hey they'll give it back with 10 interest probably oh my god that's funny
shit um has anyone anything else happened since we had the space i don't know what's happening
um absolutely nothing i did
i did have a question this is peak bear market bro this is like oh man dude i i use xpro i've got
like 10 columns of different lists um one of them is obviously the ct list by bandit which i'm not
on by the way very offended wait wait let me fix that it's, bro. There is nothing at all happening.
Like, fuck all.
I'm trying to reply guy to shit,
and there's nothing to reply guy to.
Someone's talking about Avicii.
You know, Game4One's just tweeting about Avicii there,
but that's it.
I'll add it to you, Ethan.
Ethan, that list has 2.5k followers now.
That's crazy.
I wasn't expecting anyone to use it when I made it.
But the annoying thing now is when you reply,
you're going to see your own reply.
I don't know why you can't filter.
I only want posts.
I don't want fucking retweets and replies.
No, you can do that.
That's what you use Xpro for.
Yeah, you can do it, though.
Someone commented on my post when I was doing a video on it.
Can you teach me, Andres?
Yeah, I have no fucking clue. I lost the comment um still yet to do it but i'm sure there is a way i've got you
i've got you bro there's just like a filter code you should know though landed you're a fucking
dev i i used to go but i i didn't even know you can filter it that's really good that's oh my god
that's gonna make the list so much better yeah if you go on X Pro, which we all have access to since we have premium,
you can set up like your own dashboard.
As I say, I have like 10 different columns.
And then you can filter out replies, quotes, retweets, posts,
whatever you want to see.
You can even say, I only want to see posts come through with a minimum of two likes
or one like or however many comments and it updates live as well so wait can i so this is
only on the like the user level i can't make it on the list level where the list itself filters
oh so you would make it for everyone? Yeah, that's what I want.
Oh no, no, that for sure not. I'm pretty sure it's not the thing.
Oh, fuck.
Well, I don't know, but yeah, it was more intended like you put in a command in chat or however the other way which Ethan just mentioned.
Okay, I'm too lazy for that. I would want to make it on the list level where it's like, I don't know.
where it's like, I don't know.
Anyway, Vo, what's up?
Anyway, Vo, what's up?
Yeah, just, I wanted to ask Poyo a question.
I think he left, but I can't see.
It just shows me as a speaker.
Yeah, he's a listener for me.
I don't know, Poyo.
Poyo, even if you have to go, you can like farm the stage.
You know, we're not full anyway.
Yeah, I was going to ask him if you chose bear or salmon, but
never mind.
Wait, can't we tell by his
tweets? I didn't know.
Let me see.
Well, he's put out a
GM with a fucking dead bear
and his penguin's standing on it.
So I'm assuming it's salmon.
Wait, he's requesting them. Let's ask him directly.
Oh, fuck. Well. Pollo, are you a bear or a salmon or a fucking eagle? What are you?
Can you hear me?
Yep.
I'm a salmon bear. Just split that shit.
I think it cooks.
I ended up choosing bear.
No, you did not. No, you did not, bro.
You shithouse. there's no way you picked
who was your partner
you naughty bro
yeah you are literally a horrible person
you are a horrible person
i have a plan i have a plan
oh you're gonna send it yeah well okay
split it with them
yeah i believe that one i see it mate
wait wait wait okay so someone explain this this is like Okay, split it with them. Yeah, believe that one. I see it, mate.
Wait, wait, wait.
Okay, so someone explain this.
Is this like a steal or a split on-chain?
Essentially, yeah.
But it's not really on-chain.
It's like you click on a website and then you lock in your vote.
Basically, that's how it works.
Okay.
Hey, Poyo, I want to ask,
is ATP ever going to return or are you not doing it anymore?
Yeah, just here's perfect mate. Sorry, I'm on Bartokos and I'm inside football.
No, it is. It is. Cheers. Thank you. Sorry lads, one second.
No, it is. It is going to be back.
Just, I haven't been gone a while bro. It is going to be back. Just... I've been gone a while, bro.
It's been traveling around.
And I've got university and deadlines.
So I haven't been doing it every day.
I wasn't going to do it initially this year.
And I was just going to fully focus on getting my degree done.
Have you talked to Pingou and RJ?
No, no, no. I have no idea.
I literally have no idea.
Like, not in contact.
I think I've spoken to him once in the last three weeks. It's like actually insane.
So I assume I'm having a good time and they're all safe, but I don't know.
I've seen videos of them on Toji's account.
Yeah, Jazz has been killing it with his video.
Oh yeah, bro. Jazz is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jazz just is like such a zoomer to where the point, like most of his like CT can't really understand.
So, and he also just like works really fucking hard as well.
Like apparently he just has his like camera out 24 seven
and he's like constantly wanting to like film cool shit.
He needs to be like deluded to be like successful
in that like certain niche.
I feel like Threadguy is leading it right now,
just like absolutely crushing everyone. And then YoungJazz is in like a zen little niche. And he'll blow up like, why is there some 6-9 stream
or something? I don't fucking know. But yeah. Right, I gotta go now. My 6-7 team's waiting for me. I'm
about to tear it up up top. All right, have fun bro. Vo, don't you like live close to Miami? You didn't go to ArtPustle?
No, I didn't go.
We just bought a house and my parents were in town.
Work's been pretty busy.
I had no actual reason to go to Miami other than to see people.
I don't know.
I just traveled so much last year.
I've been just trying to stay home a lot this year
No, same. I mean, I think it would be fun to be there. I saw some videos, but I'm actually really happy I didn't go. I'm
I think I would hate my life if I if I had to be there. I'm not gonna lie
Shit Kuro
Are you good friends with K money? I actually he's really fucking funny
Like I haven't talked to him in a minute but he's been on burden spaces
i really like k-money is hilarious bro yeah it's like are him and burden like really close yeah
i didn't understand that first when i when i come on bird i'm pretty sure they talk every day
oh nice yeah and uh fred Guy was also listening for a second.
I don't know if you saw that yesterday.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he listens in the anonymous listeners usually.
Oh, shit.
So what's the lore?
So like Burden, Fred Guy, K-Money, they go way back?
K-Money, Leap.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's Leap doing now? Are you friends with him?
Yeah, I'm friends with Leap as well.
He's doing his donate.gg.
It's like a crypto way
to donate to charities.
And they deal with the intermediary
stuff for the charities.
Yeah.
Is he fucking... Okay, i don't want to ask or maybe he's a really good like loaded okay i was gonna ask because that's that's that feels like someone
who's loaded like just fucking donating or is it like people send money in and he just
facilitates the donations or you know he well he's built the platform for them to be able to do
that right and like he has like a whole dev team and stuff that he pays for and like he covers
everything right so i yo i don't know the few people i understand in the space that like really
give back like he gives back like a lot a lot a ton that's that's cool shit high functioning well what are you up to we
talked about fucking see cash and perps and all these are you doing anything
active or are you like us like bored as fuck just on spaces honestly bro it's
been so fucking boring I bought a soul coin the other day played that fucking
Pokemon kabuto thing and made like piece of little bag off that but like I don't like trading soul dude i just don't i know that's where the liquid is and just a weird kind
of trade um but so i've been like poking around with like some of the proceedings from that most
of it went back to e to my conviction plays that i'm ever so patiently waiting on as they
drain me further and further every week um but uh yeah just chilling i've been farming cypher eth protocol it's just uh
l1 protocol that mont blanc is bootstrapping uh with the camelot team uh and i'm pretty excited
about that they have their tge coming up on the 11th um and i'm curious that sounds very soon i
was gonna ask how to farm it yeah they've been farming for like a month now um and they're i think that it's
it was a pretty short farming period um but uh you you can you know earn the rewards token i think
just by using the protocol period even when it's active after tge um i'm curious to see how it works
and that's also why i asked about railgun because railgun is working with them. And that was one of the topics that came up was that there was going to be a little bit better UI to use Railgun via Cypher ETH protocol.
And I don't know what that entails because I really don't have any clue about that shit.
Like not even enough to speculate on it.
But I am curious about learning more.
So I've just been farming that over there.
I'm not real good at LPs.
I never really understood it. But I started making V4ps over there because the ui makes it pretty easy um
and i've learned a little bit you know self-taught that way with uh with the farming exercise but a
lot of it i've just made wash trading just slinging you know two or three grand back and
forth a bunch of times each day during the farming part of it but curious to
see dude i want to see a return to mainnet i want to see you know i know eth is going to do well and
i want to see a return to memes i think it's pretty much imminent i mean the liquidity is there
just a matter of like hitting the right environment and we're just quite
haven't been there yet i'm i've got yeah i've got eyes on january dude. I put out a tweet, I think, four days ago, like the fucking gas fees.
It was 0.03.
Dude, I don't know.
Fuck when, I don't know.
Like back in the day, 10 Guay used to be like, oh, it's dead.
Like there's nothing to do.
And like it's, dude, this is the lowest I've ever seen.
Dude, it's incredibly cheap to transact on E.
Like especially talking like, you know, if you're moving like five dollars at a time is it
cheap like no but i mean like if you're going to sling you know a couple grand at a time like
compared to the way that it used to be um you know it's it's cheap so like that expensive narrative
quite isn't there anymore uh in my opinion so it'll be curious to see how that happens as we
get some performance out of the you know i'm looking for an institutional accumulation as we enter like a higher liquid environment and like a more um risk on environment for big money i'd like to see
something stupid happen with the same way we just watched bitcoin grind up through essentially like
bear market liquidity conditions um yeah i'm really i'm more nervous about what we get i don't know
what the we get to be honest with you and it makes me nervous to the upside of what could happen and you know that's why we're here in
right good position and just ride the out yeah no i think my most expensive transaction was 6k usd
uh shout out yuga lab shout out board apes other side mint let's go thank you for making me
waste some of my ETH
Imagine holding your breath and clicking
Dude, it was fucking crazy. I see Hector in the crowd shout out to him I was at his house like when this one went down and they put out this fucking doing analytics
They go like yeah, it's not oversubscribed. Don't worry. You're not have not gonna pay any gas and
Then like they were lying the
whole time. So it was oversubscribed by like a few K and everyone just went fucking nuts
on the... I think I paid... So the way I put in on that transaction was $2,700. Like, fuck,
if it was at 4K, 4.2K or something crazy. And yeah, ended up paying 6K in fees just to get...
I mean, it was a huge profit still but
I don't know why they would lie about it
Shout out them shout out you got
Kuro did you meet the other side other deeds thingies?
It was like a pico top of
Yep, did you did you get any?
Yeah, of course I still have some of them
yeah the other side meant was the most like pico top of pico tops in crypto history in my opinion
um i even i even think that nft twitter or like crypto twit was bigger during the other side mint than it ever was even during trump coin
um it was insane i minted um one of the other side deeds the next day when the the board ape
holders got them for free i had a mutant ape so i got a mutant piece of land i remember it so well
i was at college um i was sat in my bedroom at my mom's house
i minted a coda which was worth like seventy thousand dollars and my dopamine was so fried
that i just made seventy thousand dollars for free barely reacted i sold it that's crazy god i sold it
bought another mutant ape and thought i made a great investment decision uh
rode like 300k in nfts and ape coin all the way down to zero um yeah that was it
oh my dude i think i saw some stats i think we we collectively burned 100 million dollars worth of
gas oops that was my bad i was trying to do the laughing thing and i accidentally muted I think we collectively burned a hundred million dollars worth of gas
Oops, that was my bad. I was trying to do the laughing thing and I accidentally muted Oh no, dude, I was out in the rain
like in the beginning of this space and like
raindroplets were hitting my phone and I was so scared one of them was gonna hit the end button and like bugged the space
but we survived
Fuck, I don't think it even gives you like,
are you sure you want to end the space thing if you click it?
No, it just does it.
On the crypto side,
I just pinned it up top.
Fogo the Chain is doing a pre-sale
on 17th of December.
Don't really know much about it yet,
but I know it's a first come first
safe basis and I think
it's going to be up
I think it might do well
actually I tweeted about it, shout out Fogo
wait, two persons
but yeah dude
actually I think this one might do okay
or like profit, I would be
surprised
they did this already uh what was it called
dang it it had the green humidify huh oh a different logo it had a green logo the other
chain that like said they were svm i can't remember what it is i don't know which one
i'm pretty sure this is not the same chain though no. No, I know it's not the same chain.
I'm just saying, like... I mean, like, the same team is what I'm trying to say.
Fuel.
Wasn't it Fuel?
Fuel, yeah.
Fuel was one of them.
There was another one.
Eclipse?
Eclipse.
Oh, isn't that one, like, only down?
Eclipse was just a shitshow, man.
The fucking intern tweeted, Hello, Indian indian villagers like what the fuck like how is he getting that approved i mean it was funny i'm not gonna lie
but i don't know um for a fucking protocol that raised like 70 million they're trying to make you
so angry that you don't care that your money's there but they don't understand nobody here is
woke enough to give a shit about their fucking racism
But I think this I thought it was bullish it is kind of this one is Kobe led though Like Kobe's involved some I understand no more details on how Kobe is involved in this
And it's gone and rest mode knee pad mode
Wait, wait, wait, what did you say? Was the question
towards me? Yeah, Kobe is involved
in this race somehow.
The team's pretty
well connected.
Like the Fogo team.
Based on what I heard in a few meetings
from Valiant's side.
I don't know.
I was a bit like
do we need this?
But then I've heard so many people that are like actually
smart say like the other team is coded like the team is really like the team
has some serious audits on like in a good way like pure devs like real fucking
nerds so I don't know feels bullish I like the team based on Interactions with with who I was able to talk to I liked it pretty much
So yeah, I'm very skeptical of putting my money anywhere. I'm not gonna lie like even the
Humidify sale I was like fuck like it's like it's but it's yeah sense right now
Yeah, but like when I was bidding I was like fuck like it's my money gone
But the 3x like so there are some wins here and there.
I think Cook said this too.
There's going to be some wins, but you need to be very fucking selective.
I mean, MegaEath was an obvious one.
I think ICOs are Cook.
No, I actually think you shouldn't really.
MegaEath was the last big one.
That was a no-brainer.
Now, from here on out, I'm not buying any ICOs. But I was thinking the same with the Hermitify, but that 3x at the last big one. That was a no-brainer. Now from here on out, I'm not buying any.
Yeah, but I was thinking the same with the Humidify, but that 3x like out the gate. I don't know. Maybe like a few of them were.
Yeah, but you got to sell it. Check back in a week. Like a 3x is okay.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking. I'm talking. Get in, get out, make some money.
But I don't know. I wouldn't be like bidding anything and holding it for like three no no no
maybe I don't know I think mega is holds up I'm not gonna lie I I think that's if you got into
that one you did really well but other than that I don't know like long term I have a hard time
seeing um anything interesting yo sin yeah okay I'll keep it on topic real quick.
What the hell is an ICO?
I keep hearing that.
No way you don't know what an ICO is.
Shit, man, is it International Community Order?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
You cannot be in crypto and not know what an ICO is.
Mate, I heard it at a talk at RPAs on Miami.
It's an interracial cum offering.
No, it stands for initial coin offering.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just forgot what it...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, got it.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't need to be on this topic, though.
We don't have any other topics.
We're like...
We've been saying we've been on here for like six hours, five hours, some crazy shit.
And we've just been saying we're so bored.
So if you have any topics, I'm happy to hear. Oh, any topics, um, yeah, the fuck up guys. What the fuck?
What the fuck is on my timeline? I'm getting dogs like heck which I am currently dogs. Yeah, I've been dogs for a little while
Wait, I guess your will
But like I don't know if you see the top two pin posts
But like I don't understand this whole like I honestly I honestly, this is just making me lose my current understanding of what the fuck crypto Twitter is.
Like, I don't know.
People are, like, matching me with this girl, like, named Jess, who's, like, awesome.
Oh, we've been talking about Jess for a bit on this course.
Yeah, well, like, they think I'm her, which I'm not.
Oh, my God.
No way.
Yeah.
Wait, so are people, like, posting you against your will?
Yeah, which is fine, because I'm trying to find a social media platform called Docs.
So I'm fine with that, but it's just, like...
That's a bit fucked up.
I mean, I don't know.
I wouldn't be okay with that.
Yeah, but, like, you know, I'm just getting called.
I was called.
Didn't you show OnlyFans links in the fucking...
I swear to you that you did.
I'm almost positive you did.
What?
What?
Retard?
What?
Wait, wait, wait.
You used to show OnlyFans links in the fucking...
On the other one, on the anal account.
Remember.
So what? That's no f person so why are we even talking about dachshund exactly i think it's like a joke that's
not landing it's like a joke but they're it's a very bad one who's joke we're all retards and
minds we're all autistic okay there's no there's no freaking joke here. I don't know.
We're in the bear market. It's not a time
for bad jokes.
We're all the rest.
Right.
With you on that, Ethan.
Much love.
Anyway, so they're trying to dox you. They think you're this just
chick.
Yeah, I don't know if you...
Shit. Anyway. yeah I don't know if you shit anyway
that was a terrible topic to bring up
sorry
that was a lame topic
sorry guys
no it's fine
it's fine
we're in
I don't know
I don't know what else to talk about anyway
apparently there was a coin
about this
I think Jonah said it was called Web3BD or something.
I missed it.
Oh, yeah.
I thought that was freaking body dysmorphia, but then it was like business development, right?
Yeah.
I don't know.
We're so down bad.
Fucking give me any coin.
Give me anything, dude.
Like, fuck me.
It's so...
Dude, Cook, your GM post.
Holy shit. 262 replies that's actually I think that's low I think that's bear market number oh yeah give it a bit like cuz I
noticed with GM posts I think bangers like they're very immediate GM posts are
like they keep occurring over the whole day and this is only one hour ago and
you're already sorry you're popping off it's that I think that's
gonna go yeah you know what it is as all the scientists are waking up in their
different time zones yeah GM they're hitting their respective regional labs
GM GM GM I don't know when GM started I think it was like I think it was like the
Faroka when GM became like the this thing. Fucking GM, cool cats, GM, GM.
The Wagme era of crypto.
Oh my God, we're talking about GM posts now?
Oh my God.
Yeah, we're GMing, man.
GMing is cool again.
We're bringing it back.
Hey, experts, GM.
But you can't beat what's...
It was Jamfi, right?
That he is literally the chief scientific officer.
I don't understand.
Jamsi is actually.
The penguin with the burger.
Yeah, dude, I told him this too.
I thought Jamsi was the biggest retard ever until I like started talking to him.
He's actually smart and he actually moves sides.
Like he's actually like doing big trades.
And I'm like, asked him like, dude, why are you like so fucking retarded on the time I
just said like yes my outfit like I just like being retarded on the timeline and
he has all these like custom-made photos of his penguin I don't know I I thought
he was just like some some idiot but he's actually really smart like when you
talk to him and he's not messing around on spaces, he's actually a smart guy.
He's cool.
And legitimately, that GM video was amazing.
I watched it like three times.
I showed my wife.
Wait, which one?
It's his penguin.
And it's very high production value.
It's like his penguin in the fucking
fast food place making a burger
and he throws the burger at the screen
and then it flips around and it says GM on the patty.
Bro, it's like insane.
It's like Pixar.
We're gonna flip his quality. We have Komish.
I can make something similar if you want, you know.
I would...
Bro, all your videos are sick too, actually.
Komish is making me sick. All the cute little cartoon videos and stuff that i've posted they're all from komish i'll post them bro
you're you're uh yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna see if like autistic steven spielberg i can you know i
can reverse from the james's video and try to do something similar to you or like whatever idea you have. I can try. Are you Ukrainian or Russian, mate?
I'm Ukrainian.
Or something else.
Okay, cool.
Privyat.
But okay, I think I have a conversation topic, Bandit.
Oh, go ahead.
Okay, if we're that damn bad.
Yo, can someone explain to me in a two-sentence summary, what does Ritalia, Remilia, Milad,
Milady, what are you guys all about?
Thank you very much. I think that explains a lot for me. I't fucking know i mean i just do the pfp i'm not really like
interested in the community or anything um okay don't worry about it don't worry about it isn't
that a slogan though don't worry about it that's actually really funny because i say that all the
time in real life like ironically like, not even Mlady related.
I just say don't worry about it.
Okay.
Well, that's so helpful.
I mean, okay.
Don't worry about it.
I like that.
Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah.
I just think it bad that you're wearing one, especially you would probably know more about.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I have no idea.
No, I don't.
I mean, I kind of get the...
I saw their replies under the...
I mean, they're a bit edgy. I don't know exactly, but...
Yeah, that's all I need to hear.
Edgy. Okay, got it.
Someone linked...
Bobby did a pretty good post
where Burden interviewed him, and he went through...
Let me see if I can pull up that post.
Okay.
I love Bobby dude Fuck
I keep glazing
We're not even that good friends
We talked a few times
But he's
He's actually
He's made me laugh like a lot
Like these past couple days
I just want to shout out to Nate
Freaking Cognate down there
The Chad
Down there
Shout out to Nate
Nate?
Okay
Shit Araby you're back
Araby
Araby I think I
Wouldn't people say a rabi a rabi. I've never heard a rabi
You pissed him off. I think you left
Araby
Sorry, that was my fault. No, that couldn't have been my fault.
No, it probably just left as you were saying this.
Dave, did you find the post?
Yeah, someone DM'd it to me.
I didn't bookmark it, so I'm just going through to figure out who DM'd it to me.
Yeah, I'll find it.
When I do, I'll pin it.
Do you know?
Okay, maybe you know the answer to the, I don't know, two-sentence.
I don't even know how the fuck do we
Describe memory like two sentences to go through like I don't know it's pretty deep lore. They've been around for a while
I think like probably just watching through that series of videos that he posted is like a pretty good intro
That's cool.
Shit, who else do we have?
Ethan?
Oh, Nate.
This is Nate. I like Nate.
Nate! Nate!
Nate! Oh my god, he's up.
Yeah, he is.
Can someone say what's up?
Can't hear him, though.
Dude, is his face fucked or what?
Yeah, I don't know if you're arguing.
Yeah, Ethan, I did.
Nate was coming up, didn't see him, but I was just asking, like, what are you up to?
Or I was going to.
I'm so bored.
There's this app in Dubai called Karim, which is like our Uber, but it's way better.
buy called kareem which is like our uber but it's way better um i've just summoned a servant
to go to a store for me buy me two packets of snooze and then bring it to me um for the low
price of like 13 dollars but yeah oh my god wow you're that bored ethan yeah that's how bored i am
Oh my god, wow, you're that bored, Ethan.
Shit.
Yeah, that's how bored I am.
Shit.
Something is crazy, by the way.
Bandit, what's going on?
Well, you had to do better or what?
Ethan, so he doesn't do snooze all day.
Wait, wait, what's the question?
We have to do better, don't we?
Shit.
I don't know.
I tried snooze once, I almost puked, so it's not my thing.
Yeah, me too, me too. But my dad was big on it. It's a Swedish thing, I don't know. I tried snus once, I almost puked, so it's not my thing. Yeah, me too.
But my dad was big on it. It's a Swedish thing. I don't know, now the whole world is snusing it up.
It originated in Sweden a few years ago, we were the only ones.
I'm on this caffeine pouch, so it tastes a lot better than the nicotine pouch, but it's called Mojo, so it's berry flavoured.
And you don't taste any nicotine, of course, because it's called mojo so it's like very flavored and it doesn't taste like you don't taste any nicotine of course because it's caffeine i i've tried the caffeine pouches but i didn't get a buzz from it
like i didn't even feel more energetic me neither me neither it's just i don't know
i mean like do you feel caffeine caffeinated from like coffee
if i have espresso i feel like yo is this shit on
yo nate
yo what's going on bro i heard my name
what's up boys
now we're chilling
what are you up to
it's 15 20 i just woke up
not gonna lie i just woke up
loaded up counter-strike i'm probably gonna
own some fucking noobs okay we're so bored nate we're so bored what the fuck
uh and then i don't know i might actually jerk off i've not done it yet i just woke up oh my
dude jerk off hop in the shower uh i don't know boys i just made some coffee but what do you want like recipes oh my god no no
probably take some eggs maybe i'll probably take some eggs on some toast maybe scrambled them you
know i don't know let me know what you're having for breakfast boys i need to eat something i'm
not gonna lie thank you oh you see that boys i reminded the host to eat the space won't be here without me city boys drink some water while you're out city boys city boys my bad yo my bad i'm on a call
with health canada yeah my business yo canada needs fucking help bro right now we fucking love
rachel columbia stand up let's fucking go all right boys i need to hit the bong i just woke up Bro right now we love British Columbia. STAND UP! LET'S GO!
Alright guys, I need to hit the bong. I just woke up. Let's go boys.
Wait, is that like a thing? Do you like smoke regularly? Dude, I don't know how to roll. If I knew how to roll, I'd be smoking on this side.
If I don't hit the bong, this is what I'm like, brother.
No, I'm working there. I'm trying to do better with guys.
I have an announcement to make.
I have an announcement to make.
Holy shit.
Scene, what about you?
What about me?
No, no, no. Scene, scene with a C.
Hey, what's up?
I see how that was confusing, though.
Fair play too soon.
Scene, what's popping?
Are I also smoking weed?
No, I'm not. Actually, I quit a bit ago. I used to, but not anymore.
Yo, he's better than those guys. Don't worry. He's so much better.
How come you quit? Do you feel better off it?
Energy levels, clear-minded. Yeah, just feel better.
Dude, I'm such a fucking sucker for substance. If I knew how to roll trust me i'd be i'd be going i'd be going substance i love that band i'm gonna use that again i'm gonna use it
i just love i just love cocaine i'm just gonna say oh you know what mom i'm a sucker for
substances bro now i have a really good dynamic i'm really lazy so thank god like i'm it's too
much work like but i have a store like next to me i
could be like just smoking all the time but rolling is like half the fun bro that's like
part of it but i feel like such a retard cook because i've tried to learn like i don't know
three or four times and i just make these like they're so bad like they're smokable but they're
like you really have to fucking it's like a whole job too yeah
it's a lot of practice stop trying to be perfect while you're doing it and just worry that if you
roll it over the right way and you stick it it's good right like i think people that try to perfect
the form like as you're rolling it and don't realize that like you just gotta fucking tuck
that shit correctly i don't know yo nigga just put it in a bung and set it on fire
bro come on bro i just love a line of coke to start my day you know
arabi arabi that's fucking horrendous bro come on that's so horrendously haram right
cook are you leaving yeah i gotta go gotta go. It's too long.
Yeah, I think I also might rock this in because I need a break because I haven't booked any lunch in like 36 minutes.
I'll go.
You gotta go eat some food.
You should order McDonald's.
Oh, yeah, dude.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
See you, bro.
See you, bro.
Kuro, what about you?
You're also going?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to rock this in.
Because we've been going like five hours. What about you, you're also going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to rock and throw it in.
Because we've been going for like five hours.
We've been tapping for like two hours, bro, and I have not been listening to her.
And I probably should.
Yeah, I need a break.
Yeah, I'll host the next space, Bandit.
I'll host the after party.
Yeah, we'll be there.
Go ahead, fire it up.
Bandit's firing the after party of Bandit's space already. Or maybe who's hosting it?
Bandit is. I have a 35-minute break then i have web 3 launch and then i have the i'm co-hosting with burden so
it's gonna be like at least four or five more hours let's go yo shout out burden one time go
buy his coin are you gay i'm gonna buy some burning coin. Fuck it. All right, guys. See you soon. I'm going to go eat.
Ciao.
Bye-bye.
Bye, Bandit.
