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Crypto Coffee Cannabis | FomoFm
Recorded: June 3, 2025 Duration: 3:04:04Space Recording
Short Summary
The crypto community is buzzing with excitement as the launch of 'Monetize on X' approaches on June 15, promising new opportunities for creators and entrepreneurs. With Bitcoin and Solana showing bullish trends, the market is poised for growth, and strategic partnerships are being formed to enhance user engagement and monetization.
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Oh, baby.
Don't go.
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Look.
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My notepad car, many bodies screenshots solved plenty problems, voice nose bag plenty hotties, can't just talk to me like anybody, can't just talk to me like
anybody, man you bitches know that I'm a stung body and lil baby bass she got a strong body.
Bunch of feelings I just couldn't take, disrespectated I just couldn't take, you just couldn't see the good and great, four months not a long time, but to fuck somebody you just couldn't wait, you broke my heart, you broke my heart, you broke my heart, if you just believed. Yeah. I'm a crash and when a salon is busy. Flower days like that river Mississippi. Freaky nigga like I sing with pretty Ricky.
Huh? Yeah, yeah.
Got that ad list from Smiggy.
Nails done, but my trigger finger is he clutching on the flick.
He did his getting tricky.
People love to ditch me.
I hear every single thing, man.
I'm all in.
It's like I took the fan to ditch me.
Guess it's one way to tell me that's the mission.
Way to tell me that's the mystery.
Don't go.
Don't go.
Don't go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You broke my heart.
I had my doubts about you from the start.
Push to the edge like vert.
On Instagram digging up dirt.
You want to smoke with me first.
Well, this one gon' .
Yeah.
This one gon' hurt.
Down bad boys, sad boys. I've been representing since birth.
Yeah, I was down bad about you, but I'm about to have you down worse.
Ice cream, you're dead to me, does Mercedes make her hurt?
Matter fact, everybody in this bitch scream out for my age.
For my age.
For my age.
For my age. For my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, get them fingers
up, for my age, how to turn this bitch up, for my age, for my age, I should drop a name,
for my age, drop a couple names, for my age, think you want some fame, for my age, for
my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, for my age, I just flip the switch I don't know nobody else that's doing this.
Body start to drop, hit the front.
Now they wanna know me since I hit the top.
This a rollie, not a stopwatch, shit don't ever stop.
This the flow that got the block hot, shit got super hot.
Give me my respect, give me my respect.
I just took it left like on ambidex.
Bitch, I moved through London with the Euros depth
Got a sneaker deal and I ain't break a sweat
Catch me cause I'm gone
Out of them gone
High, go from 6 to 23 like I'm LeBron
Serving up a pack
Serving up a pack
Niggas pulling gimmicks cause they scared to rap
Funny how they still be
Got you niggas stuck
Pulling back the curtain by myself scared to rap, ayy Funny how they shook, ayy Got you niggas shook
Pulling back the curtain by myself, take a look, ayy
I'm a bar spitter, I'm a hard hitter
Yeah, I'm light skinned, but I'm still a dark nigga
I'm a weak splitter, I'm a tall figure
I'm an unforgiving, wild ass, dull nigga
Somethin' wrong with him, got him all bitter
I'm a bill printer, I'm a grave digger
Yeah, I am what I am. I don't have no time for no misunderstandings again
It's a rollie not a Watch, shit don't never stop.
Hey.
Whoa.
Hey.
Hey.
Yeah.
I'm making a change today.
The liquor been taking the pain away.
I heard you was giving your pain away, that's kinda like giving your fame away
What's wrong with you? I sit in a box with our owners due
A boss is a role that I've grown into
I love you to death but I told you the truth
I can't just be with you and only you
Yeah, I got one Virgil, got one and that day it's the only two, man
How many times have I shown it prove, man?
How many nights I been woke, swerving the potholes
Not trying to fuck up the wheels on the road, okay?
Funny how life goes.
He thought he was sick, now he wiping his nose, okay?
Sooner you give him your soul.
You blow up and they say you're selling your soul, okay?
They want my life exposed.
They want to know about the highs and lows.
Well, summer, all I did was rest, okay?
And New Year's, all I did was stretch, okay?
And Valentine's Day, I had sex, okay?
We'll see what's about to happen next, okay? OkayX, okay We'll see what's about to happen next, okay
Okay, okay
We'll see what's about to happen next, okay
Okay, okay
We'll see what's about to happen
Ay, ay, we'll see what's about to happen
Ay, we'll see what's about to happen
I'm making a change today
The liquor been taking the pain away
I heard you was giving your pain away That's kind of like giving your fame away What's wrong with you? I sit in a change today, the liquor been taking the pain away. I heard you was giving your chain away, that's kind of like giving your fame away.
What's wrong with you? I sit in a box where the owner's due.
A boss is a role that I've grown into. I love you to death, but I told you the truth.
I got one lawyer, got one in the dead, the only two.
How many times have I told you the truth?
How many nights I've been woke, swerving in pop holes?
Not trying to fuck up the wheels, I'm fucking the deals. I'm posted in stock, home, it's me the owls and the twins, it's only the real, I'm moving way too humble, Weezy and handed it off, I still got no bumbles, I'm on a hot one hundo, numero uno, this one ain't coming with a bundle, I'm in the wind, a million in chocolate chips, and that's just how my cookie crumble, I put a skirt on the whip and a crown on the six, but there's no need to dress up the numbers, up the numbers hey hey yeah but I guess they must have they reasons they want to know how I'm living my
day-to-day life in the regular season well summer all I did was rest okay and New Year's all I did
with stretch okay and Valentine's Day is sex okay we'll see what's about to happen next, okay? Okay, okay, we'll see what's about to happen
Ay, ay, we'll see what's about to happen
Ay, we'll see what's about to happen
I'm making a change today, the liquor been taking the pain away
I heard you was giving your chain away, that's kind of like giving your fame away
What's wrong with you? I sit in a box where the owner's due
A boss is a role that I've grown into.
I love you to death, but I told you the truth.
GM, GM, GM in the AM to all of our d gens pulling up to the space fomo fm baby
i see a lot of ogs a lot of doodles up in the building early what up gang just getting the
morning kicked off here with you guys pouring up a couple coffee uh markets are moving really great
i'm excited just like we said monday sets it off and the
rest of the week kind of runs with it bitcoin just slipped under one of 106 solana's at 161
dude we're fucking printing we're not going anywhere baby if you're bullish on the space
right now retweet it we're just getting it kicked off right now i'm gonna start pulling up some speakers up one by one and uh i'm just extremely bullish on where we're going this cycle
a lot of people thought bitcoin would go back under 100 000 i just didn't see it happening
um i'm always building and uh we're days away from launching monetize on x on june 15 i'm excited to
announce that tell you guys a little
bit more what you guys can expect what we're gonna be building but a whole bunch a whole bunch of
community members of have ready shown interest they want to join they want to get monetized
it's gonna be a lit fucking party we got some cool stuff planned for the summer because the
summer's around the corner it was June 1st just the other day and we're kicking off the summer because the summer's around the corner it was june 1st just the other day
and we're kicking off the summer baby so hang out with us here build network grow
retweet the space if you haven't already today's taco tuesday it's also tezos tuesday
maybe we uh do a little chill and chill at the end of the space and maybe grab some nfts
i always know that
there's new nfts that are joining the market but i'm just really extremely bullish on everything
that we've been accomplishing here as a community a lot to discuss and uh a lot to look forward to
so with that being said gm in the am to everybody i see jet sammy mikey i see scotty tact what up Chet, Sammy, Mikey. I see Scotty, Tax. What up, baby?
Y'all pulled up early on me.
I tried to do the space a little bit later so more people can roll in.
Because the West Coast, people fucking hate me.
Nobody on the West Coast likes waking up at 4 a.m. for Doodle Genics.
Nobody.
Not even Keith. So, decided to make the space a little bit more accessible to people.
And hosted around like 9 o'clock, 8. o'clock somewhere around there so it's gonna be pretty dope make
sure that you're tapped in with those notifications on tomorrow in the fall like in my tweets now too
tomorrow what's up bro what's up what's up your boy doodle making waves but um today we're gonna talk crypto today we're gonna
talk nfts i've been struggling to come to an answer whether founders rug projects or communities
rug projects because i've seen a lot of projects without a founder actually take off and this cycle
different from others we've seen a lot of community takeovers and the takeovers sometimes go really well a lot further than founders could
take the coin of the project themselves and then sometimes I feel that
communities and whales and people in the communities kind of ruin the projects
sometimes they drop floors sometimes they sell clips of tokens at a time or they bundle
tokens sometimes they all kind of leave on cabal style so i want to know from you guys the real
crypto investors the real crypto dgens who rugs projects is it founders or is it communities scott gm in the am join the conversation what
up fam who's rugged who founders or communities
bro in my opinion both like you said i think both gm in the am by the way
gm in the am solely what's cooking baby bro it's a lovely morning bro look at the markets
like everything i predicted a bit in my head what was gonna happen is like happening now
ethereum is moving just as hard as solana like who would have expected that it's moving harder even
than solana today so it's looking good it's looking good but uh yeah to go back to your question i think it's
both to be honest because if there's a few big whales who lose hope in the community or even the
project and they sell the massive bags that they bought a low market cap it will even if one whale
sells and the others sell as well because of, you know, fear, it will destroy the project.
So it could be founders.
It could be whales.
I think it happens both, to be honest.
Smart take, smart take.
1984, put your hand down, bro.
We just started this space.
You don't have anything important to say.
It's okay.
Don't worry about it.
No, no, no, no.
Use your fucking mic, bro.
I said put your hand down, not open your mic.
We'll get to you when we get to you.
Actually, take another lap.
You ain't ready for this one yet.
Take a lap.
We'll come back to you.
Scott Dabitola, GM in the AM.
Who's rugging who, bro?
Are founders rugging the project or is communities rugging the rug in the project solely thinks it could be both.
What up, my guy?
Yo, sorry, I was like rugging out immediately on joining the space, which, yeah, which shows how this day is going to start.
Ready getting rugged, getting rugged by Twitter.
So I'm getting rugged by a founder and by i guess the
community no no uh i mean you know look uh from what i caught from what was said i mean look at
you know on some of these smaller projects as they're growing you know anybody holding a big
bag could take that shit out and you know it just depends on the community if it could recover and also you have
you know founders who rug i mean it's just you know i mean i don't think it's limited to
like a person or category i mean next thing like just on on some of the stuff that you think
is the safest next thing you know it's screwing you so i mean anyone who knows me pretty good
knows i'm like super paranoid i check things like three four times i'm very careful on transactions
it's like it's just you know especially with getting involved in projects uh at the same time
so you know i have my guard up all the time because I've seen scams and bullshit just across the board.
It's not limited to a certain category.
I like that take, Scott.
I want to open it up to everybody here and we'll move past this as well, too.
But this question has just been sitting on my mind.
I'm like, why isn't this project?
Why isn't this this identity on x or web
3 why are they not successful is it the community is it that they can't get like-minded people
together and aligned is it that the founder you know people have lost faith and faith in the
founder is it the founder that that rugged the project is it the community that rugged the
project dude and i was thinking about it all day and i'm just like i think web3 has the answer so uh anybody that has a take on
it open your mic give us a take gm in the am retweet the space if you haven't already guys
shout out to everybody that pulls up let's go hey yo gm doodle g's it going, man? I've been, I don't know.
So I kind of agree with Sully a little bit.
It's a little column A, a little column B.
I feel like when founders start a project, there's ones that have malicious intentions
for sure, and they tend to rug the project.
You know, it comes down to whales and the community as well, because on the other hand,
there is good founders who have good pure intentions.
But then I feel the community tends to burn them out a little bit and that ends up like just ruining the project between that and and whales that only really care about being fucking bigger
whales you know there's definitely a few factors it definitely depends on the situation ship that's
for sure what do you think of that?
I don't think that any answer here that we're going to hear today is the wrong one, to be honest with you.
It's a double-edged sword.
Talk to me, baby.
Talk to me.
Here's the statistics man if you guys are dealing over in solana
i mean most likely you're getting rubbed by the creators and his buddies you know but honestly
if you're in something like a smaller chain uh you gotta you gotta do your due diligence man do
your own research everybody knows that here was it a fair launch is there a strategy for the treasury
as the team executing
on promises if they're not if those things aren't in line you're going to have community members
rugging out all the time you're probably going to have the original team rugging out because they
don't got their shit together they don't have a plan right so i mean you got everybody's everybody's
different every project is different just like a fingerprint in this in this in this world and
Everybody just you know do your own due diligence research research read white papers
I know probably most of you in this room haven't read a white paper and haven't even read this Satoshi white paper for Bitcoin
So that's a part of doing your own research
Make sure you're you're looking at the plan and the blueprint from the ground up, guys.
Back to you, Doodle.
I'm loving the takes, man.
I'm loving the conversation.
I got to answer this question, man.
Is it the project founders that are rugging the projects?
Or is it the community members that are rugging the projects?
And everybody has good takes.
It kind of does start from the top down.
And I've seen a lot of communities and a lot of project founders disappear.
And then the project just disincipate.
But then this cycle and this in the last two years, I've seen a lot of community takeovers.
And this wasn't a common occurrence back in 2021, 2019, 2020.
When project founders left, everybody left with them.
But now people take it upon themselves.
Communities understand that this is a decentralized space, and you don't need one centralized figure,
one centralized founder in order to make the project successful. And there's tons of meme coin projects that reach hundreds of millions
and become mega successes without a founder.
So my question to you guys is who's rugging who?
Are the founders rugging the projects or are the whales or the community members
who give up on the projects rugging the projects?
Love to hear from takes.
I'm not calling on anybody.
If you got a hot take
join the conversation let's get it baby all right so my take on this is from the founder's
perspective i feel like founders sometimes rug themselves by over promising and i feel like uh
the community they tend to rug themselves by over expecting like they community members tend to rug themselves by over-expecting. Like, community members tend to, like, expect a lot from founders.
And it's kind of to be expected because they are the leader of the project.
But they also forget that founders are humans, too.
They're not, like, superheroes who can do everything all at once.
And I feel like those expectations on both sides tend to get people fucked up.
And then people get
mad when stuff doesn't happen according to their expectations and they kind of like just
they give up on things before they actually have time to come to fruition
damn you guys are giving some good takes who am i putting the blame on man who am i putting the
blame on heat i mean well honestly it's it's a little bit of everybody's
fault so it's like we got like because because the the community can it's easy for the community to
blame the founder but the community has to take responsibility because like the project doesn't
exist without the community and the founder has to take responsibility too because like you you
the one who implanted the idea and gave these people hope behind this project or this idea. So you have to like be showing results to make sure that
people are actually have something to believe in. Hey, I'll chime in here guys, more than doodle.
In my opinion, it comes down to yourself. You make the choice to get in these projects. When I get into any kind of project, I look at it as my responsibility to judge for myself that it's a good founder, it's a good
community. But in the end, I don't blame nobody. I know what kind of game we're playing here. I
know what's going on. I've been a part of space for a long time. Over the last year, especially,
it's been getting much more difficult, I believe,
because there's been just more and more extractors.
There's people that know how to play this game.
And Heat, man, you brought up a great point about expectations.
An investor in a meme coin or a project's expectations are usually way out of whack.
So when something doesn't go their way, they're always looking for somebody to blame. That's kind of how we are in society. It's everybody else's fault but myself. But in
the end, it's your money. You're responsible for that choice you make. And if the dev rugs
leaves the project, if other community members in Wales leave the project,
you didn't put in your research to check the holders. You didn't understand
where these guys are from, who do they run with, what other projects have they been a part of in
the past. I'm telling you, you can get a good feel for certain communities by doing a little
background research on who's pushing the project, who's tweeting on the timeline, who's doing all
these different things. And you can get a feel for, hey, is this one going to run? Are they going to allow this time to cook? Is it a good
meme? Can it catch on? Or is it just another, fuck, I came in, I bought the top, I got to
chalk up my losses, this thing ain't going to happen. And you move on. You don't blame, you
don't run out there and send people mad DMs, you know, bullshit with them, yelling at them,
saying it's their fault.
They made a move before you did.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's just how I view it.
I know what this game is.
And if I'm going to play, I have no one else to blame but myself.
Ooh-wee!
Number one, Scott.
And you guys are absolutely on point, man. I think that the takes that we've heard today are very reasonable.
I think it does come down in some circumstances to situation, right?
And doing the research, absolutely.
Knowing about the project, knowing about the future,
knowing about the past, the track record, the people associated.
There's a lot of things you can research, Brian, before you buy into a project.
And a lot of people don't do that.
So I agree.
I think sometimes founders lose hope.
I think sometimes founders are overwhelmed.
I think founders are overbared.
Dude, when I was a founder, I made the mistake of trying to make every single person in my community happy.
And I had no time for myself.
And I was a fucking yes man.
I'll never be that person again. I'm happy that I evolved.
And people need to.
And I'm thick skinned, so I was able to take some of the harsh criticism
and maybe shortcomings of our attempted successes
and just turn them around.
But not everybody's able to do that.
And people do come and go in crypto very, very quickly.
It's very rotational.
You're going to see somebody here today in this space,
you're never going to see them again.
Don't be that quitter.
Or don't be the guy that leaves your friends and your community to go venture off alone and be a lone ranger again um i do think that communities
themselves right you're only as good as the people using holding and building in your in your network
so if there's if there's negative people in your network they're gonna pull it down
mike did you want to add something? Go ahead, bro.
No, my bad. I touched my phone.
Well, what's your take, bro?
Is it communities that are rugging the projects?
Is it founders that are rugging the projects?
We heard a little bit of both.
We got to be better.
I don't think that all of these projects that completely rugged out are just completely worthless.
I think in the right hands, they can come back.
I think in the right leadership, they can be turned around and made something of.
But it's a challenging fate for a lot of people, for the communities, for the founders to make those commitments.
What's your take who's rugging who who's to blame?
What's your take?
Who's rugged who?
Who's to blame, baby?
so I honestly believe that
There's good good and bad in both on both sides and you have to pick your you have to pick your
You have to take you have to make a calculated risk
Or a calculated decision on who you're gonna what you're gonna choose to ape into what you're gonna invest your money into
And that is 100 your choice if you don't do the research on what you're investing in
if you decide to not watch the chart and watch it and if it's a meme coin and you get rugged that's
your own fault regardless if it's the developer or the community doing it to you if you aped in
and you decide that you're going to go hang out with your buddies
and you threw $1,000 into a meme coin and you come back and you're at zero, that's your fault.
But what I like to look at is if you compare one of the meme coins like Toshi,
that thing got rugged at the beginning when it first came out.
It got rugged.
And the community brought it back together.
So it really depends on if you can thug it out. If a coin you believe in got rugged a long time ago and you're still holding a bag of it and you believe in the community and you're actually putting in work to promote this coin or promote this project, then yeah, I mean, the community can bring it back to life 100%.
I mean, the community can bring it back to life 100 percent.
But if if you have no faith, if you're not following anything, if you're not doing Twitter, you're just following other people's trades and other things that are going on.
You'll never make it in this space.
That's just how I feel.
It's something I want to I want to jump in, Mike, because you brought up a good point about the community and the takeover.
People got to remember that most of the time, these community takeovers end up not working.
You have to understand if there's something there, it's just time to cut your losses.
I can't even tell you how many times I've seen community takeovers.
I mean, it's like nine out of every 10 projects.
It's like nine out of every 10 projects that dev leaves or take the community over.
The dev leaves or take the community over.
And then they waste countless months of their time and effort into building up a dead project that just simply doesn't have a chance.
And be honest, what is a community takeover?
For many holders, especially ones that the projects didn't run, initial run up to like 10, 20, 30 million. They're just people left on negative backs.
They're like 90% down. And the vibe I get a lot of times from these projects is they're just
looking for exit liquidity. They're praying somebody comes in and pumps this chart so they
can move on. So you got to be really conscious of that when you're looking at community takeover projects. Look at the meme. Look who's
involved. Can this actually come back? Because 99.99% of the time, if you miss that initial pump,
that all-time high, it will not come back and hit an all-time high. Everybody in here
knows that. If you've invested in projects like that, you know a majority of them,
they don't come back. They just don't come back. If you've invested in projects like that, you know a majority of them. It's not Bitcoin?
They don't come back.
It's not coming back.
Yeah, they just don't come back.
So you've got to be careful.
You've got to have a plan.
What I find, dude, most people come in.
Not only do they not have an entry plan, they don't even have an exit plan.
So when are you going to take profit?
You should always look in the trade and be like, hey, I'm getting this meme coin.
How am I going to at least make my money back?
What is this price of this token have to do for me to be successful to enter this project?
That should be on your mind at all times.
And then once in a while, you find that one that you love, that you believe in the community.
You get active, you grow this thing.
And then those are the ones that you can kind of make hay on. But I mean, it's a simple numbers
game, guys. Look at the thousands, tens of thousands of projects being launched daily.
And how many of them actually hit a hundred million? Hell, how many of them actually hit
10 million? It just doesn't really happen in this space. And right now, the way the market's
currently going, especially since the Trump coin madness. So you got to be very careful and manage
those expectations and have a plan. Otherwise, you're just going to be pissing away a Solana
here and half an ETH there, some of this there. You really just got to be on it. And the thing is too, is I noticed a bunch
of people have their entire position in projects. They don't have any stables. Always keep a pile
of stables, some USDT, USDC that is always available to make a move. If you see a play,
you jump in it and you're able to make a move without having to sell another asset that, say, you believe in.
So just kind of like something that I go about when I'm looking at all these different meme
coin communities is, unfortunately, most of them are just extraction. They're junk. They're dead.
So if you don't put in that time, you're just going to end up feeding money to it. And I've
seen it with my friends outside of the space, people inside the space. They're just going to end up feeding money to it. And I've seen it with my friends outside
of the space, people inside the space. They're just waiting around on these dead projects.
All the market's going to turn. This is going to happen. We're going to do this.
And here's another thing. How well funded is the project? A majority of these builders,
these communities simply have no liquid and they are praying that money comes into the chart because they just don't have any money.
And I don't want to invest in a project that isn't going to be able to afford a push, exchange listings.
I mean, you name it, having a plan in the future.
And that simply comes down to liquidity.
Gave some really solid takes and some really solid uh perspectives of what to do before
a pen into the project and i really do value that brian you're you're a legend i think that some of
these these cases are circumstantial bro we've seen solana pretty much get rugged from over 100
to go back down to eight dollars and nobody could have called that different things happen at certain times and you got to be able as a crypto investor to understand that now i'll be honest understanding
what you're buying has all the justice if you're understanding what you're buying not all investments
that you make here in crypto not all of them appreciate brian. You buy volume bots that volume bot hopefully bring some new
people in but doesn't appreciate the token. We buy NFTs not some of them for art some of them
for utility whether we use them or not they may not all appreciate. I think knowing what you're
buying is like the essential starting point from avoiding to get rugged.
Like if you don't want to lose your money and you don't want to be disappointed,
just understand what you buy.
If you're buying something that has low utility, but you're expecting the world by owning this asset,
your expectations are probably out of order.
You know, they're probably off.
They're a little bit unrealistic.
I want to hear from some more takes.
Guys, today I have a question.
It's been on my mind for a while.
I see a lot of projects that tend to fail or tend to lag or just kind of sit in limbo.
I wouldn't call them dead because there are community members.
There's holders.
There is some interest, but not enough to bring price up, not enough to get the community
active and involved again.
Who's rugging who? Is it the founders that are rugging the projects by the lack of direction, competency, vision?
Or is it necessarily the community members that decide to ape out, the community members that decide to give up on projects?
members that decide to ape out the community members that decide to give up on projects.
Founders alone don't make up communities and projects. They need, obviously, people. So
I want to pass it to he knows. He knows. What's your take on this, my guy? GM in the AM, by the
way. Yo, GM Doodle. What up, everyone up here on the speaker panel? Hope everyone's doing amazing.
Jim Doodle, what up everyone up here on the speaker panel?
Hope everyone's doing amazing.
I mean, it's tough out here.
You know, there's, I think, several different things happening at once.
I mean, obviously, there are some truly bad founders that rug their entire community and just disappear.
And then they do it on repeat.
But there's also a little bit of the volume boss specifically on Ape Chain right now.
There's been a lot of that, and some of these are even selling at a loss, which is crazy to me.
But if you truly believe in the project, you have conviction.
You got them diamond hands.
it can come back i can't say the same for coins i know once a coin is rugged it's
It can come back.
I can't say the same for coins.
it's pretty hard to bring it back especially without the volume or interest or anything like
that but personally i don't blame anyone uh it's pvp everywhere in this entire scene so
at the end of the day you got to make the right moves before someone else
makes the right move before you.
I like to take interest and take as well, too. I don't want to have to invest in a project that I'm like always considering it to be a rug, because then after to me, like there was really
no value long term in it. And I was just preying on price to go up personally and I found
myself in a few situations of those and sometimes you have to cut losses and realize that you're
eating too much hopium you're hoping things are going to change but things really ain't going to
change and it is tough because you have to emotionally detach from your finances and your investments whatever you're holding um to make
that decision but before even entering the project how do you determine whether whether like hey this
is good quality this is bad quality this is a potential winner this is a fucking loser i don't
even want to think about buying this thing anybody on the panel he knows if you want to think about buying this thing? Anybody on the panel, he knows if you want to answer,
Brian, whoever. Yeah, man. Me personally, what I look for, first thing I do is I hop in the
telegram, community engagement. I want to get a feel for the energy who's in there, especially
this what comes to newer launches that are fresh within 48 hours. I want to see what the energy is like, how many active people
are in there, what the comments are like, and it's not all just bots or the backslashes
with to the moon, all this kind of stuff. That's like a red flag to me. And then I'm
going to do my research on the actual meme itself. Like the idea here, can this idea,
this tokenization, can this go viral
can this spread is it based on something that's happening in an IRL event and you're trying to
capitalize on that and also I look for meta plays that are first or second real early by the time
meta plays hit their week a week or two it is almost always too late you get the copycats you
know when it was the animal craze with mudang i mean there's all these different meta plays
that happen out of it and usually only the first one to two are the ones that are successful and
the hundreds and thousands that spawn off after it are simply a no-go they're not going to go
anywhere they're not going to rug because they haven't captured that initial market share. So that's something that I very much look
for. And then I get into the team. Is there an established team here? Is there some form of
structure? Is there a plan? What's their marketing plan? How well-funded are they? What does their
past look like? Other projects that they have been a part of. So then I jump into the Telegram,
this Discord, whatever, ask a few questions, and I jump into the telegram, this discord, whatever,
ask a few questions and I just get a feel for it. And usually within, I'm not even telling you 30 to 60 minutes, I can make a decision based, Hey, I think this has some legs. Uh, sounds like they're
well-funded. They're going to really work hard at this. Are they hosting spaces? Do they have a plan?
And then I'll make a decision, but that that usually exactly what I'm looking for in terms of means. Now, when it comes to utility, obviously, I look at the tech. I look at deliverables. I look at the problem that they're attempting to solve. Are they delivering on what they said they were building? If so, then I'm interested in getting in. But that's a different mentality. And that's not in get in, get out.
interested in getting in, but that's a different mentality. And that's not in get in, get out.
That's a, Hey, if I'm investing in this, there's a reason. And I'm willing to hold this asset for
one year, two years, three years, long-term plays. And to be honest, that's where you make
long-term wealth. That's where I've been successful in this space is getting in,
waiting on something for three to five years, and turning that into multiple, multiple
Xs. And I think that season is upon us when it comes to utility. We haven't had it yet because
Ethereum just simply hasn't run yet. Bitcoin dominance is too high. When that does happen,
that's what I think is going to really make or break people who've been kind of waiting around and have liquidity
to play with and didn't get burned in all the memes. So two kinds of different things I do with
the utility and memes that has actually worked out pretty well for me. And for Christ's sake,
guys, you can't make any money unless you sell and you don't have to wreck the chart.
Just take your initials and 10% back easy. Don't wreck the chart. Take a little bit of profit.
Then you're riding free.
You don't have to worry about it anymore.
And if you want to leave that moon bag, you leave that moon bag.
If you want to stay active in the community, stay active in the community.
But you made your money.
You took a little bit of profit.
And you move on to the next one.
And you just keep repeating this process back and forth.
So that's kind of like what I've been doing.
It's been successful for me.
I'd like to insight, Brian, you gave us a lot of hot,
excuse me, brother. You gave us a lot of hot insight, brother. It's THC and the cannabis
is kicking my ass this morning. GM in the AM to everybody that's tapping into the space.
We opened up this conversation guys by asking everybody a question.
And I'd love to hear your opinion.
Who's rugging who?
Is it the founders that are rugging the projects?
Or is it the communities that give up or just decide to exit aggressively that rug the projects?
And what do you look for when finding in quality projects?
Because a lot of new people are coming to the space.
A lot of new people are getting easily deceived,
maybe just buying on the top trending of DEXs
and OpenSea and marketplaces.
And most of the time, I'll say 80 to 90% of the time,
those are the worst projects to buy.
And I say that from experience.
Most of those projects I've bought lost me tons of money.
The money that I've made are more so the quiet builders,
the things that don't necessarily always get all the attention.
But there are real people, real communities, real tech
that are pushing the space and the project forward.
And sometimes they take a little bit of time they may lag a little but those are those ultimately have been some of the bigger winners
for me um we got our co-hosts up in the space phoenix crypto gm in the am how you doing queen
and uh i want to open the question to you is it founders that are rugged projects or do you think
it's the communities that aggressively sell and quit that kind of tarnish the project's overall reputation and, you know, profitability or even lure?
Welcome, Phoenix. Good to see you as always, Queen.
Good morning, Doodle. Good morning, Davitola. He knows Dr. Soli.
Good morning to Abitola. He knows Dr. Soli. Nick down there, everyone here. Catch me off guard with a very interesting question right off the start. I just got here. because it's not always black and white.
There's a lot of degrees to it.
Sometimes, hold on.
As I was saying, sometimes, can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you loud and clear.
Go ahead.
All right.
So it's a very nuanced question and it requires a nuanced response.
It's not always black and white.
Who's writing who?
Sometimes it's the founder.
Sometimes it's the community.
When you think about projects that do need a strong community, it's sort of like a symbiotic relationship.
It's mutually beneficial.
Both parties help each other.
The founder has his job to do and the community has his job to do.
As a founder, I think, as I say many times,
I think you're a blueprint to what a founder should be.
It's like a community member's
dream because there's no mystery with you. We don't have to worry about if the project will
succeed. We don't have to worry if what we put into the project will be well spent because all
we need to do is look at the impact of what you've made on this community already.
So that's the kind of thing you look at with founders.
We look at the track record.
We look at their consistency.
Are they showing up?
Are they talking about the project?
Are they doing things to elevate the project and the community?
the project and the community and when we talk about community a community is
just basically a group of people who who come together because of shared goals
shared visions shared beliefs shared attitudes and culture and they all come
together because of that belief and if those values stay true then you have a
great community but I think one of the key issues here is that a lot of people have kind of bastardized the meaning of community.
They say they are here for community, but they're really not.
They are still self-interested.
They are still selfish.
They are still looking to one-up someone or take liquidity at the cost or harm or detriment of the community as a whole.
So it's not really a community. It's just a group of people coming together to see what they can
extract and then move on. Or maybe they're here, they say they're here for a community, but they're
only here just to take, you know, ideas or community members along with them and try to start something on their own. So it's a two-way street, so to speak, about who rucks who,
because sometimes the founder isn't really a founder because he's just there maybe for notoriety
and to gain some type of monetary reward, but not really showing up, not really showing proof of work.
And then
there's community members who aren't really interested in being a community. They're just
there to maybe siphon off genuine people and then move on. So I think in this ecosystem,
sometimes both people are capable of wrecking each other, so to speak. But I mean, I don't, I see Mike crying.
I don't want to be negative because I, you know, there are gems out there. You know, this is a,
this space is just a microcosm of the wider world as a whole. So there's good and bad everywhere.
So I talk about the bad parts, but there are great parts. There are great communities like the Doodlogenics community. So I'm just very lucky that when I first ventured into this ecosystem, I found
Doodlogenics in his community fairly quickly. And I just knew from the beginning before he even had
a project, a collection, I knew that he would the same fire, that same passion, the same motivation,
the same kindness that he showed to the community every single day. I knew that he would pour that
same fire, passion, love, and selflessness and transparency into his project. So it was an easy
decision for me to invest heavily into his community. And I saw a lot of genuine people
in that community. A lot of
people, the core community is still here. We're still supportive. And so it was easy for me to
join because I believe in Doodle's vision. I believe in his abilities. I believe in the fire
that fuels him and motivates him to succeed. So that's why I'm here and that's why I show up every day.
Phoenix Crypto, you gave us some amazing insight
and you had a really hot take.
And I agree, it is a little circumstantial
and that's what we're finding out
from everybody's take here.
It's not as one-sided as you think.
It's not necessarily just the founders
and it's not necessarily just the community, it's not necessarily just the community right community has an option right you should
have the option at any given point to sell your assets at any time however you
choose whether it be all at once whether it be partial whether it be
fractionalized it really shouldn't matter so question in the conversation
is great, guys.
Come up here and give us a hot take. I would love to get more voices, more speakers.
You have a voice. Use it. You have fingers. Use it.
You don't have fingers. You got toes. Motherfuckers don't got arms and legs.
You got toes. Use them. Tweet with your toes. I don't care.
Use your voice. Scott's got a superpower i saw him tweet
with his toes in denver i was like damn scott what else can you do with those things but uh
i'm just playing man uh this is the part of the show where i encourage everybody to light up a
little thc if they got one or got some take a little THC if they got one or got some
take a little edibles if they got some or just sip on some doodle juice like
Queen Phoenix if you got some get poured up get a cup of coffee all right roll
a fatty roll a fucking roll a fatty guys. It's a lovely Tuesday Yo
Me and Dr. Soley have an amazing production
Hey yo, what up Alex? How you doing Minister Alex? How are you bro?
Yeah, I'm doing fine. How are you?
You just called me Minister?
That's awesome. Oh, okay. I was like, that shit's fucking hilarious just hilarious i know i'm pretty soon but you're
pretty high he's a minister there we go he's a minister
he's like oh no that jazz i'm here for the crypto alex what's up baby give us a hot take i know that
you're a little bit newer into crypto and that's totally fine but I would
love to hear what your perception is on it is it founders that are rugging the
projects or is it communities that decide to sell or give up on the projects
aggressively the ones to kind of pull down the overall door now I think
personally that the project succeeds because of the admins if you have good
admins that understand how it works you can succeed you see some people succeeding over and
over again and that's just not luck that's just knowing how the game works so if you build up a
good team or you search as a buyer you search a team that functioning functions really good
then you can make money that projects will succeed
so who so who's rug and who who's to put the blame
uh no one is and everyone is um i think i I think it's your own responsibility no matter who you are.
So it's everyone's problem and it's no one's problem. It just happens.
This guy is so fucking poetic I don't even know what to make of it.
Thank you man.
I gotta tell my banker, whose problem is that we're not making more money is your problem that you know you're not giving
me more returns or is it my problem my deposits are not fucking bigger and then at the end of it
i'm gonna say it's no one's problem at the same time so don't worry about it i'm happy with where
my money's at not i'm bringing it to crypto no No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Alex.
Minister Alex.
Mr. Minister Alex.
Thank you, man.
Thank you for letting me speak as well.
Always, bro.
Always.
It's important to have different takes here at Web3.
And I love everybody's perspective.
We've had all hot topics and hot takes.
I want to open up the floor to everybody and ask you guys the same question.
Who is rugging who?
We have founders that decide to give up on projects or extract liquidity knowingly.
And then we have community members knowing that they can manipulate, take advantage,
dump projects on other community members or maybe even newbies new crypto uh traders and investors heads so this question has been pondering me for the last
fucking couple days and i'm like the only way to answer it is to have a conversation about it and
i think this has been a great space so far and great conversations great takes have been taken
so far and great conversations
great takes have been taken
have been spoken so we're going to
rotate some people bring some new ones up here
Alex from
Lidiverse jump in brother
you don't need a hand man it's an open mic
for everybody today how you doing GM
give us your take on this
GM what is everybody
up to my take
is they're absolute, but everyone is rung.
People are rung.
People are rung.
Everyone is rung.
You're rung right now.
Right?
So you have both things happening.
And then you have projectile things happening.
You see what I'm saying?
I mean, I speak.
Yeah, you're on the wave.
You're on the wave. Yeah, you're on the wave.
Hi, how are you?
Hi, how are you?
Yo, come back.
Get back here.
I'm not going to let another guy rug like that.
Don't you dare rug us so hard like that. It's so early. Yeah, we ain't going to let another guy rug like that Don't you dare rug us so hard like that
It's so early
Yeah, we ain't going to rug
Aw, sheisty
Alright, well
We'll bring him back up
Speaking about rugs, Elon Musk out here
Fucking rugging everybody today playa god damn what up
talk to us the founders are rugging the communities aren't they bro ain't it sad and then you got
fucking peons like us that come and cto their crumbles sad dude it's fucking sad
we talked about ctos and we talked about some CTOs actually carrying the project
when founders decide to quit, give up, or just, you know, eventually just hard rug, you know?
Say, I'm done with this.
I've been trying to get in here for, like, the last, like, 20 minutes.
Every time I come, I don't hear nobody speaking.
Finally, I hear you guys speaking of rugs.
Fucking Elon Musk needs to get this shit right, player. How you catch
a rocket and can't host a Twitter space?
What the fuck?
Facts.
Big facts.
Well, what's your take on it, doc?
I know why he can't anymore.
He's so blasted. Do you see how much he's
partying lately?
You don't give a fuck.
He's up in the White House on ketamine, rolling on pills, having a fucking great time.
No, no, no, he's not. We're not.
No, he's not.
We're not going off topic here.
Doc, give us a hot take.
Dude, I think really what it is, and i've witnessed it a lot in the whole pulse chain
ecosystem right a lot of people they get these great ideas and they're like i'm gonna be a dev
i watched this other guy do it so i'm gonna do it right and then when they finally get into it
realize that you don't become a millionaire by being a dev you actually become a millionaire
by buying the right meme coins and being a community member and they go oh well fuck this and they give up because they
thought they were going to get rich quick and i truly think that's that's like what the honest
answer is and i've watched a lot of people do community members have the same mentality but
opposite they think that the best way to make money is to become a dev and not to be a community
exactly right they think the grass is greener on the other side and so they become a dev that
just rubbed everybody because he's seen twenty thousand dollars sitting in liquidity and he goes
well i don't need to burn this i'm just gonna rug it i never got 20 grand in my life before
fucking peasants bro that's really what it comes down to there's no art there's no leadership
there's no balls there's no uh big titted females out here fucking grabbing their shit and putting their shit on the line.
Everybody's just really scared of their own shadow, and they're scared of putting the work in.
The ones that show up every day, they get called scammers.
Why?
Because they show up every day.
It's fucking crazy.
You know what I mean?
There is real, legitimate people that burn people. But like to call somebody who shows up every day and puts value to an ecosystem, a scammer is kind of fucked up, you know? And I think like we actually did this before. Lady, you can contest to this if you're starting out. He stepped down. But on that, he's having issues with his connectivity. I guarantee you.
Yeah, I know.
I went through 20 minutes doing that myself, you know.
But, yeah, dude, it's like fucking I've watched a lot of people try to think they're going to be success because they got the next best thing.
And then when they realize that they can't be successful, they just give up.
And like real leaders don't give up, dude. They, you know, think about like people who fought wars and were generals. You know,
they've been slumped against the ropes and then they go, fuck that, let's rally the troops.
We're going to fucking come back and get this shit next time, you know? So they don't give up.
They may retire and recalibrate their next move, but they don't give up, you know. So shout out to the ones that don't give up.
You know, that's how I see it.
Those are the real ones, the ones that are here every day putting the work in,
showing the community that, you know, we don't need, you know,
everybody to go fucking buy the bag.
We need everybody to show up and support.
You know, buying the bag will come over time.
You know, let's talk about something that's productive and be a community first.
And then worry about buying the bag, in my honest opinion.
Great take, Doc. Great take.
Sorry I got squeaky shoes. I'm walking through my corridor right now.
I need to go buy more lighters.
You sound like a duck or a goose.
Yeah, I sound like a duck.
I sound like a daffy duck here,
but I'm not Scrooge, I'll tell you that much.
I give back in many different ways.
But I wanna get more people's take on this, guys.
Drop a comment if you don't feel comfortable coming up
I will read it out loud here in the space
Alex from Liddyverse. What's up my guy? Let's give it another take
Lady like a titty
I'm in the elevator.
Did we rug?
Was this meant to be? Nah, I still hear you, Doodles.
I still hear you.
I think Lilyverse is still rugging.
He's struggling.
Well, let's say what's up to King Hearts
because I know he ain't rugging.
He's never rugging me.
Not his NFTs, not his beats.
Not when he picks me up in that dog.
Only hardwood floors hardwood floors we're
in the basement so there's no rugs down here you know what up king yo it's good gang just finished
work i'm heading back to my house happy taco tuesday hopefully you guys are you know doing
what you love and shit and you know the markets are looking juicy uh whether
they're green or red i like it i like it i like it what are we talking about which is the first
thursday this is the i got i got a question for you but this is the first i'm sorry this is the
first tuesday in three weeks that king of hearts been up here on a tuesday i'm fucking excited king
good to have you in the space. I think I'm going
to switch some of the spaces to be a little bit later throughout the morning around like nine
o'clock, 9.30 start time so people from everywhere can get into it. But the question that we're
asking everybody, and it was pondering me, bro, was just on my dome and I needed to get it off
my chest. I wanted Web3's perspective.
Is it the founders that give up on the projects because of lack of competency, maybe experience or knowledge?
And, you know, maybe they just hard rug as well.
Or is it the communities that rug the projects from selling too quickly, bringing down the overall sentiment?
Could it be a little bit of both?
I mean, so you know in a relationship,
two people, they feed off each other's energy.
So, you know, when the dev feels like
he's not really being supported
and he's getting tired and running weary,
not, you know, sticking up for any rug projects,
but I think it reciprocates both ways.
You know, I think community members need to understand that they do have a role in the community and they're just not there because
community members will take, there are people who will take on zero responsibilities, do nothing to
help this project, pump this project, not a tweet, not change their PFP, don't talk about it. And
then they'll be like, Oh, well, it didn't work out the dev rug. It's like, well, you know,
you were a part of it, you know what I mean? But if, so if the dev just disappears, I, it didn't work out. The dev wrong. It's like, well, you know, you were a part of it. You know what I mean? But so if the dev just disappears, I guess it's all like, you know,
because there are good people that hope that that start projects that don't mean to go to like there are unsuccessful businesses.
It's where people, you know, mean no malice.
They just fail.
They just fail due to, you know, market, you know, the market sentiment maybe is
not matching what they're doing at the time or whatever the case may be. You know, there are good
people that fail. So it definitely is a little bit of both. And if you want to be that community
that, you know, sees the top, you definitely have to have a mix of both. They have to be great
community members that know what to do and that respect the project and the charts
and there's got to be a good dev who's not going to get up and persevere to all that bullshit.
I hope I covered most of what you were saying and
you know, back to you. What do you think? That's the realest shit I ever heard, bro. No bullshit.
I've got community members. Sometimes you've got
10, 15 guys in your community and they're all just like
praying on each other you know i've seen firsthand there are people who would come up into the space
and be like oh buy this project buy this project meanwhile they're a whale in the project and the
whole fucking floor is them selling their the whole entire floor is them selling the nfts
and they're on here like buy this project i come up onto a space i have over 50 doodle jenks now probably close to 60 now
i'll tell you to buy doodle jennings i am not selling one i don't have one for sale so there
are like unwritten rules that not everybody really knows about coming into this space it's like having
dinner table like manners you know it, it's, it's kind of
sounds like that. And it's just a different sense. Don't fucking chew with your mouth open guys.
Yo, I just want to add on to that, man. I don't know if y'all can hear me or if I'm rugging still,
but yo, can you make the perfect, perfect point, man? Like sometimes the community is not rugging
you in a sense of selling, but they're rugging you by not giving that hundred percent and pushing the project.
Nothing could be seen unless we echo chamber it and everybody pushes together. We all retweet. We all tweet. Right.
What's the sense of of a person making a PFP for you guys if you're not even going to change it?
I'm tired of seeing this my forever PFP shit and then people change it.
Then they change their name.
Then they say they love the project but they don't really
fucking love it. It's not doing shit. If you did,
you would do something. Do something.
Right? And then they don't do it
and then they go, oh man, the founder rug
and da-da-da-da-da. How long do you
expect me to work for free?
Right? My founder
pure said, don't expect work, don't expect benefits or the hard work of others.
If you want your bag to grow,
fucking make it grow.
Go do some advertisement.
Go do some marketing.
Go connections.
You want me to go on shows?
Don't fucking tell me to go on the shows.
Go book me on the show.
And I'll go talk about it.
But don't tell me what i should do
when i'm already doing now i'm gonna get back to work i'm sorry hey but you know what the problem
is like a lot of people who join communities because they spend a little bit of money they
assume they're an investor so they just assume oh i've done my part i bought the project so number
go up not realizing that this isn't bad to take TradFi.
You're not investing in fucking
Apple.
You're investing in a project that is living on the
ground floor. So you're going to have to do a little
legwork.
We're all
startups. Every NFT project
is just a startup.
This is an entire space of startups.
Working, paying the bills, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry, and your wife is just fucking hanging out Exactly. I've been being in a relationship and you're working, paying the bills,
cooking, cleaning,
doing laundry,
and your wife is just
fucking hanging out
all day with her girlfriends
and you're taking care of the kids.
That would be a sucky relationship.
So that's just a comparison.
Yeah, it's like,
people just gotta remember
that we all came into this space
to one make money,
but also because
we believed in something.
And if you believe in something, you should want to actually add to it and support it to help it grow in a way that's tangible.
Not just I bought an NFT and I never go up like that.
Don't I don't do shit.
Work for your bags.
We like this space has completely started to fade bag working.
And I am honestly tired of it.
Everybody should be working for their bags
because if we don't, first of all,
working for your bags is how you get new people in.
If you're not working for your bags,
how the fuck is anyone going to see your shit?
Popping a PFP on your fucking Twitter profile
is not enough.
You got to be out active
and making sure people understand,
oh, this is some shit that could actually be good for all of us. Talking about it, onboarding people, you know,
making a post every so often, you know, even if it isn't every single day, you know, make a post.
These are my people. This is who I run with. Shout out to my bears um you know just the small things that's like the
bare minimum that's the bare minimum you can do and it doesn't cost you you know we're not
after you buy the nft it's just it's just a matter of that talking about the project coming into
spaces hosting spaces coming up onto shills spaces which are pfp um you know those are the bare
minimums that everybody could do but you, you know, we all try.
We're all doing our best.
You know, I don't think anything attributed to any malice.
Like, what if you have like five or ten PFP projects that you're involved in?
You know, you can't always just constantly switch your PFP.
But you can talk about the projects that you're bullish on and invest in, you know.
Absolutely.
The community and the founder play such a vital part in the in the
success of a project and it's interesting king because in 2021 when the founders decided to
to give up or leave or whatnot the project generally failed the nft project the the token
it generally failed only recently of 2024 2025 and this cycle have we seen community takeovers
where a bunch of people realize, hey, we have the assets.
We are the community.
We make up the project.
If we can change our sentiment here from negative to positive,
maybe the price goes up.
Maybe the community recovers. And it's
a tricky situation because the community doesn't always have the right resources or the right
leadership. And everybody wants to have significant roles in running the community or the token or
the project. And then it just goes sideways. But my question to you guys is, because it's been heavy on my mind for the last day or so,
who's rugging who?
Is it the founders that decide to give up or just quit
or hard rug the project and just extract liquidity?
Or is it the community members that go negative,
go bearish, that sell aggressively,
that just dunk on top of other community
and founders' heads?
I would love to get some more takes. Open your mic, guys. that sell aggressively that just dunk on top of other community and founders heads i would
love to get some more takes um open your mic guys i'm not calling on anybody today it's
just a conversation jump in when you can yo what up what up good morning
Good morning.
Odin.
GM, GM, bro.
What'd you say?
Are you listening?
Give us your take.
I missed out on it, man.
I didn't buy light to you.
Go back down, bro.
Go back down.
Shame on you.
So when I was just pulling into my driveway.
When a developer does it out of malice, of course it's their fault, right? bro. Go back down. Shame on you. So when, when, uh, I was just pulling into my driveway. When they, uh,
when a developer does it out of malice,
of course it's their fault, right?
But, um,
you know,
it's hard to say. What do we, we need fucking
Judge Judy.
He just got to his house.
That's the Wi-Fi eating him.
Yup, that's exactly what that was.
You know the screen muncher on Blackberry when they didn't have screen shot?
Just fucking munched his ass.
He even hit the ground. He even hit the ground too, Mikey.
Damn, his halo's still floating. That's some crazy shit.
Yo, I wanted to add to, I think it was Heat was talking about it,
but man,
if you can't grind for your bags
in real life,
then you can't grind
for your shit on the computer.
What's going to give you the
motivation to do it
on the computer if someone gives you some money
or some alpha, but you can't even do it
in real life?
You got to put in the work in
real life to get the money to be able to invest into these projects or these tokens that you
believe in and do your research because once you make that money in real life and you don't just
spend money and you you know how to accumulate your money and save your money you'll watch your
money more more wisely and spend it more wisely you know in this market so that's my take on it
because i've i've been saving money since i was a fucking kid once i since i was a little kid
i have a twin brother he does a complete opposite and i always learn from that so that's just my
take i also think one of the issues is that people think that this space, this ecosystem, this environment is like some metaverse fairyland or something.
It is real life.
We are doing real things.
We spend so much time and energy here.
And time is the most valuable resource that we have.
So this space is real life as well. It's just a virtual,
it's not in person, but it's still real. And I think that loss, that sense of realness is what
gives people the license and the boldness to just do whatever they want to do. They do and say
things here that they would never do if they were standing in front of a person. They act in ways that they would never act in real life because they feel there's no consequences. So they think that they can just scam or rug or do whatever they want because it's not real to them. And I think once people believe that this is also real, the real world, just a virtual
component of it, maybe people will start bringing the same values and the same conscience that they
have when they're in front of someone face to face. Maybe they'll bring those same values and
integrity and actions here as well.
Just to bounce off of that, I feel like the space as a whole kind of played a little too hard into the whole magic internet money meme.
And that's kind of part of the reason why we don't really take it too seriously.
And apart from that, there's no real consequences in this space yet.
Like for real, the scammers are still running free because like they're just like people are just now starting to see real consequences for wrecking people's entire life savings.
Damn, we got some really hot topics, hot takes, and I'm fucking loving them.
GM in the AM to everybody.
Taco Tuesday to everybody.
We opened up the space with a question guys,
is it founders or is it projects and communities themselves
that are rugged?
And it's a little bit of both.
And it's an interesting conversation.
And I really respect all of the different perspectives.
Phoenix, you had just a great perspective there just one just one second ago and you know heat adding on to that
But we want to open it up to everybody if you're gonna come up here guys
Have a take or I'm gonna rotate some people into the conversation that want to share want to speak up and speak up
It's open mic. I'm not calling on anybody today. So if you're on the panel jump in when you can
Yo, what's good everybody? everybody sorry i'm a little late gm in the am to everybody um i agree with you doodle i think it's a little bit of both i think the owner obviously can take his profit and
everything out of it and just rug the whole thing i've seen a few of those happen before um but i also think like
in terms of like an nft project if you get like a few people that know each other that hold too
many of the nfts they can obviously rug the project itself as well so i think it's kind of like a a combination of both all not good they're all rugged
right that's right that's the problem that's the problem it's a double-edged sword that has to work
so finely bro and i was telling everybody earlier in the space that when i was a new founder when i
just founded the community and
I just got into NFTs and I was just kind of figuring things out, my biggest mistake was
trying to make everybody in our community happy all at once. And I almost burnt myself out,
but I have resiliency, I have tough skin. You know, I took the criticism, you know know I took the criticism you know I took the feedback I continued to persevere I
altered I changed but ultimately a lot of founders would give up when the community is given major
pushback when they're when people are getting flooded and also too is there have been project
there have been community members specifically in our community as well too that you know our floor
price should be a lot higher than it is but they owned over a hundred doodle genics supply and
you know it's sad to see those projects get pulled down because of individuals like that
or that don't you know have a bullish sentiment of the overall community and what the mission was
when they got in so it's it's a very line, and we've heard all sorts of takes.
Ultimately, who are you putting the blame on?
Both?
I mean, if you have to point the finger,
I think you always point the finger at the top.
So I feel like if you have to point the finger,
you point the finger at the developer for letting someone, you know,
accrue so many or so much of the token um but i mean i i get it on both ends how do you control that person
from how do you stop when it's essential yeah when it's decentralized it's hard to stop and it's
100 100 i mean i i definitely get it but i like, I feel like even at, you know, if something happens in your project and you're the owner of the project and the head honcho, you know, they're always going to be coming for you, whether it's your fault or not.
I agree.
But I also, you know, the other name as a project founder and as a developer is always on the line no matter what the project does.
Right.
But, you know, the positive of the situation in certain situations, at least on my end too, is like someone owned 100 Doodle Genics and he floored them all and lowered the floor price.
but it allowed myself and maybe a few other people to grab when I wouldn't necessarily be able to afford $100 or $150 NFT.
I was able to necessarily grab one and hold it and hope that we go back up to what the original floor price was.
Point one, baby. We'll get there.
On ETH anyways. We'll go higher than that because we're
just a resilient community and we grow. Well, you know, I'm here for the long haul, brother.
That's why I'm bullish on this cycle. That's why I'm bullish on the people that we have here. And
I appreciate it. And I totally understand life kicks in and everybody has a different life.
Everybody has different responsibilities
everybody have different struggles problems and circumstances that they got to face on a daily
basis so when i don't see people i don't necessarily get too hard on myself or you know even kind of
doubt them where where their presence or commitment is because i know that things come up bro and when
we see each other back again in the spaces or in the Telegram or the Discord or even at an IRL event in real life conference, we pick up those conversations where we left off.
And that's true friendships.
That's true support.
That's not people preying on communities.
That's not people trying to extract any liquidity or anything like that.
But I want to open up the conversation to everybody, chat people listening people here on the speaker panel i know that
there's a few people we didn't get a take out of and then we'll spin it back around to everybody
there's some requests as well we'll get to them um so sit tight guys retweet the space if you
haven't it's a fire conversation uh who's next? What's next? Whoever jumps onto the panel.
Yo, what's up, Doodle?
Morning, my guy.
Give us a hot take.
Is it the founder?
Is it the community?
What's your perspective?
So I'll add a new layer to it.
Since PumpFun is paying creators,
dude, you got to take a look at the founder.
Because realistically, if they dump and you're part of a project,
becoming a CTO is no longer going to be viable.
Like we wouldn't have taken over the Sanchan CTO
if we were going to pay that rugger for the rest of eternity.
So, you know, you really got to look at the founder. if we were going to pay that rugger for the rest of eternity.
So, you know, you really got to look at the founder.
That's my take.
Well, to that point, PumpFun did also say that they're doing a CTO.
So if you do CTO something on PumpFun,
there's apparently supposed to be some creator benefits for that too.
I get it, and maybe it's coming,
but the, the group of projects that are just paying the founder,
like,
Oh yeah,
screw those.
What's that?
Yeah.
Screw that.
Like you shouldn't be paying a rugger who like bought and sold within the
first five minutes.
Yeah,
dude.
And until that CTO option comes out, that's what's happening.
And, you know, it's their own take on trying to do something.
But if you got a garbage founder and there's a community behind them, you know, then that
community has to decide if they want to keep paying that guy or working just for that guy's bag even when
he no longer cared for you my vote is gonna be not on my watch no one's getting my free time
oh here's a good question for everyone all right so what does everybody think about james winn
because technically he's a founder he's a founder of moon pig but All right, so what does everybody think about James Wynn? Because technically he's a founder.
He's the founder of Moonpig,
but he's also a degenerate who's been on a timeline crashing out.
I think he's a dickhead, to be honest, bro.
Yeah, I think he had too much money and risked it and got got got.
I think he's going to be now because yeah he's he's not doing anything anymore he's literally put like what was it two mil like 1.9 million that position i lost
yeah dude went from literally the one of the largest leverage phrase leverage longs on bitcoins and now he's begging on the timeline it's actually been kind of a crazy ride to watch yeah but still he received like 20
bags for begging yeah he received like 40k 40 50k just from popping a dress on the timeline i i would
not i would never have given him money to gamble.
Because he's literally a degenerate gambler at this point.
Exactly.
He's literally like giving someone money to go and play Nicotino.
Dude, I think he's addicted to the people interaction.
And he's lost all concept of money.
You know, like money is no longer real to him.
It's the hype on the
timeline that he that he he's getting his buzz from that's just my thoughts yeah i agree because
i mean it kind of like the nail in a coffin for me was when he sent i think it was like two or
three percent of moon pig to fucking andrew tate to basically shill it i guess holy shit does this affect the actual
platform by any by any substance i didn't even know who this guy was i didn't know he was the
founder of moon pay he seems like a guy who was never really good at the core and just money kind of amplified that yeah
in many cases founders are to blame king of hearts man you gave some really hot takes bro
we've seen it all though bro we've seen it all, though, bro.
We've seen it all.
We've seen communities give up and communities dunk on people and then, like, really make it almost unattainable to recover.
We've seen project founders that leave communities in no good position
to fucking recover or make anything of the rubble
that just collapsed on their head.
I've seen founders walk their community members off the cliffs.
Oh, I got these utility guys that's going to make us money.
And what happens?
The community members get rugged within the community.
I've seen that happen too, bro.
You see a lot of shit.
You see a lot of shit within the years.
And most of the time, you know, the founder is to blame.
But like I said before, I think it's a lot of a two way street, too.
It is a two way street, I personally think so.
Not all the time does a founder mean malice, you know, sometimes they do it maliciously.
They're like, yeah, I'd like to make it work.
But if not, in the back of their mind, they're like, if not, fuck it, I'll skate off with the bread and I won't be the one to lose.
Some a lot of founders do that.
But then there's a lot of founders that don't like yourself after how many years have i known you shit shit got hard a hundred times over
with doodle genics you know people thought like there was you know oh is he gonna cover a cover
for we fucking bounce back every time bro you're the most resilient founder in this space and that's
why i'm so bullish on your project but i'm not here to talk about you and shill doodle genics i'm
just using you as an example you know and then no no people like because you face that you face that shitty community members i'm not going to
say any names they're probably down there in the grease trap one other listener i see it they want
to stay anonymous that's probably them and they know who they are but um we've seen it happen
where community members try to rip you down from the inside they make posts about you this is a
rug this meanwhile like where the fuck did we go?
We've all been here the whole time.
It is a tough call to judge.
So when you are investing in these NFT projects, look at who's the founder.
Look at their track record and their character.
Do they give up on shit easily?
Did their last project drug because
they just genuinely failed you know what i'm saying people open up restaurants and sometimes
they fail you know it's a sad thing um that's it i don't know sometimes people open up restaurants
and they don't fucking do the right thing they they serve bad food and i don't know i don't know
where i'm going with that no actually no no listen if I could say something, me being a chef in the industry, working, you know, when we're busy in a restaurant.
What's up, everybody?
GM GM.
It's sexy.
What up, brother?
Good to see you, my man.
Give us that hot take.
Yeah, so I think the King of Hearts was on, was something I was thinking about too,
because when you go to a restaurant,
you're planning on spending money.
You want to order a dish off the menu.
But I think environment,
just like what Phoenix was saying earlier,
environment played a big role.
And the environment that we're in
is almost like the Wild West.
You know what I mean?
So back in the day,
people walked around with gold in their pockets.
So it was easily, it wasn't easy to carry it but it was also easy to get robbed
you can get robbed real quick if you're holding a bunch of gold in your pocket
but going back to uh the menu uh in a restaurant you're planning on spending money and if the if
if if the restaurant's busy super busy you have to think
like you know i don't want to i don't want to make the kitchen too crazy to rush it because what's
going to happen is you're you're going to get a product that's going to be subpar because you're
rushing something and that's what happens i i try to tell the guys on the line working the line yo
guys listen we're backed up so let's uh try to make it nice though
it's okay if it's still a little late but let's make it nice let's make it sexy for them and the
thing is that the consumers aren't thinking like that the consumers aren't looking around like when
i walk into a restaurant i'm not going to look around and be like okay this is packed let me be
cautious of what i'm ordering i don't want to exactly that's the point so so people who are investing in these NFTs, they don't want to hear that shit too some
of the times.
It's like, oh, I bought your project.
Exactly.
They just don't want to go up.
But remember that you are investing, like I said before, these NFT projects.
99% of them are a startup unless Nike comes on chain or Apple or one of these big brands
come on chain.
Then it don't fucking matter. You buy the NFT. Keep it in your wallet don't say shit about it they're their own
brand but when you you're when you join a community and it's a startup a tech whatever whatever
company whatever they're doing in that and you just stay silent about it and you stay a silent
holder it's you're not doing any disservice and you know after so long when the developer gives
up you're not allowed to be like oh this motherfucker rugged me no you have to say well uh that project didn't work out
because that person didn't rug you how long are you going to be in that relationship for um yeah
with with your significant other doing the laundry and all the dishes like i said before and they
ain't doing shit how long is it going to take for you to be fat up and be like ah you know what it's
easy for me to leave now this person's kind of a fucking prick.
So imagine the NF, so imagine the founders are doing all this.
They're bending over backwards, breaking their ass, and they don't have good community members.
And after a year or something, they're like, you know, I don't care if I rug these idiots.
They don't give a fuck about me.
So it is a little bit of a reciprocal thing, but it's all great.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree 100%. And I think that's the thing the point
i was trying to make is like you know people who come to restaurants to go dine they're not
thinking of that you know and and sometimes they get a subpar or or even a a shitty dish you know
because you know like it's not even their fault it's just that's what happens you know and going
back to like going back to the wild wild west you West, I feel like that's the environment we're in.
There's easy ways for people with malicious intent to take advantage of people.
Like back in the day, the FBI didn't exist until banks were getting robbed all the fucking time.
Also, another point is when you invest in the stock market in a business, right, and you buy their stock,
point is when you invest in the stock market in a business right and you buy their stock is that
person that's behind that business they put up blood sweat and tears to get that to get that
business on the s to get that business on the market there there is a definitely a long track
of hard work and a lot of money that was put up and a lot of stake on the line whereas when someone
does this nft thing it's like well i got a got a thousand pictures. I'm going to sell them and we're going to do something.
There's a lot less pressure, I guess.
There's a lot less pressure.
So I guess it is easier in this whole world ecosystem to do something like that.
Just give up on your community.
But what I also wanted to say is that
me as an individual
like Doodle was saying earlier
everybody's got shit going on
life happens to everybody in a different way
and we all react to it differently
and this also goes
with good intent and malicious intent
whatever's going on in their head
right now I'm juggling almost
three realms I'm juggling almost three realms.
I'm juggling the crypto space.
I'm juggling my restaurant.
I just started a new restaurant here in Barnegat, New Jersey.
We have an oyster bar, but I'm also juggling my family.
That's a whole nother realm.
You know what I mean?
And sometimes we don't have the right coping mechanisms because the way we were raised or whatnot and, you know, what our environments were at that time.
But, you know, here we are now, crypto, there's people making all sorts of money in different ways.
And everyone wants a piece of that cake. You know, everyone's climbing to that.
the ones climb into that right now you know mass adoption is is is at our doorstep and i feel like
it's only a matter of time before some sort of standard operating procedure is going to happen
with crypto on on a federal level government level um it's already happening before our eyes
and uh the wild wild west will eventually become not too wild anymore but with that being said
right now everyone's got to do their due
diligence and stay vigilant and just you know if you're putting money that you know recklessly out
there you know i got a question i got a funny question um sure on my timeline when i gm i still
get some of these rug tokens from like six months ago still active on their account and
Gm in me back
So is that a case of this person just failed and maybe they didn't grow good like or or should I be like
Fuck you you lost just not GM them back, right?
Yeah
Another you know, unique little situation where it happens in the environment that's playing out right now for crypto.
And you just can't come in here willingly.
You've got to read the blockchain support into holding accountability as well.
100%.
You know, because I'm constantly doing research.
Right now, you know, this is not financial advice, but I'm really bullish on ICP, Internet Computer Protocol, and what it's doing to integrate bridges with Dogecoin.
I think there's a lot of potential there, being that Dogecoin is a community itself that's very massive.
And ICP has a lot of projects involving AI and evolving it to support the crypto space.
But I think paying attention to what a project's doing, their founders, you know, and being a community member are very important factors when you're looking to put an investment of time, money, and anything
like that into a project, NFTs, crypto, or anything like that, because you're taking
a risk. You're taking a risk. You're putting your belief into what they're saying. And
the onus is on you to really say, i like that this is that's what's up okay
these guys are really taking it and and and i'm sorry i'm at a loss you guys are all grabbing hot
takes right now and i'm just i'm sipping my coffee i'm enjoying the conversation i'm here i'm present
i'm here listening to every single word from every single person. And everybody has a different perspective. And that's what
this whole point of the conversation is. It was a question that weighed on my mind for a couple
days. And I had to ask it publicly, you know, and bring a conversation to it because it's not so
clear. It's not so black and white, like Phoenix said. It has multiple layers to it because it's not so clear it's not so black and white like phoenix said um it has multiple
layers to it the the more educated we are as investors in crypto and we understand what people
are building and what the tech is or what the investment is or asset that we own we have a far
better opportunity of actually succeeding versus getting rugged and a lot of people buy things with unrealistic expectations right I think somebody said
it everybody wants to be a developer until they become a developer and
realize it's easier to become a community member and there's far less
responsibilities right King of Hearts bro you're a developer you started doing
you know wave route you started really taking a leadership role.
Is it easier to be a community member or is it easier to be a developer?
Well, I guess it's easier because there's less responsibility as a community member
and as an investor.
But being in control is definitely, I think is definitely a bonus for me. I like being
in control of it, the narrative that I have here. And that's, yeah, that's it. That's what I was
going to say. It's easier to be a community, right? Yeah. But King of Hearts, you said some
shit, like I rubbed and had to come back up. the first thing you said when you first came up here
to speak about this is you said it's a relationship right and that shit like as a dev hit me the
hardest and like if you heard what I said like how it's about building a community first and then
producing a project or a product or whatever um that reflects back to that relationship that you
were talking about, you know?
And one thing I've noticed, like, even within my own communities, you know,
everybody's just expecting, like, I'm just going to make them rich,
or I'm going to move this and move that.
And it's just like, where's my community at?
Where's the people that want to help these things succeed?
You got to be on your end, working for the bag.
I heard someone say that earlier too.
I hate the people that we use in this space sometimes, like working for your bags.
Because what working for your bags means to me is, motherfuckers, I wake up at 3 a.m.
every single day and go and drive a truck and work my fucking ass off.
That's working for my bags.
Sending out the tweets, that's not hard, man.
You say working for your bags like it's a hard thing, man.
We should be supporting these projects.
It's fucking easy as pie.
It's not working.
It's simple.
Yeah, but it's beyond the tweets, King.
It's beyond the tweets, bro.
Tweets will do nothing.
It's on board.
Just like Phoenix said, a lot of people don't – dude, you're here in real life.
There's no other place you you're at right now for real bro. You're here in real life
There's no other place you're at right now for real, bro.
You're here in real life.
So you speak in here you're developing public public speaking leadership
You're developing your bag and crypto your portfolio, right? It's not always easy to do
You know being even present and showing up is not always easy to do that's 80% of the work
Committing to the action and being disciplined and going that extra 20% and doing the work is the rest of the work, committing to the action and being disciplined and going that extra 20%
and doing the work is the rest of the equation.
But I think it's harder to be a founder.
Hey, but doodles, think this though, right?
I'm sitting here in a Twitter space right now with y'all.
I have my fucking four week old son on my chest, right?
And at the end of the day, I'm still being a husband and a father to my
two other kids and i still am over here running like four fucking projects you know i'm saying
so it's like it's really about dedication bro it's not about what you want to put in or how much you
put in it's really are you dedicated into yourself and the people that believe in you are you going
to dedicate yourself to these people like i dedicate myself to you as a as our founder right like so i throw the bear
on i come to these spaces i try to retweet and engage as much as i can but at the same time i'm
also telling people hell go check out these dope ass nfts like so and not only on top of the fact
am i pushing my own brand, I'm also helping everybody
else. It really comes to dedication. Where is your level of commitment? How much time are you
willing to allocate of your day and your life and dedicate it to either someone else or yourself at that matter, you know,
and then that reflects legitimately like how much dedication we have.
Everybody sees how much work each other put in.
It's all noticeable too.
And that was one of my tweets today, bro.
A lot of people responded to it.
I appreciate it.
I responded back to you guys as well. I didn't leave you guys hanging on red I try not to do that the
tweet was like where was it if you show up daily I support you because not a lot
of people do and it's such a challenging thing to do I think that communities
and founders need to both show up daily that's a winning equation if i'm showing up
and five people are showing up in a space i'll be honest guys i'm not feeling that inspired to be
here for like three hours two hours with y'all not that i'm saying the conversations are not great
it's just that you know i'm not here to hear myself speak i want to be in conversations i
want to get some alpha i want to actually communicate with people and not just sound like a fucking broken record. So it is both
community and founders that have to show up daily in order for projects to be successful
or else to become one-sided affairs that just never work out. Think about it. Like King Hart
said, with relationships, when things become one-sided, they never work out, about it like king heart said with relationships when things become one-sided they
never work out whether it's family whether it's spouse whether it's girlfriend it just never works
out you're like oh this jazz i don't not feeling like my worth is there right but at the same time
it's like you have to give the solid effort and if that effort lacks then it's it's directly the
founder's responsibility because nobody can get bullish
behind you if you're not doing anything if you're not producing any fucking results if you're just
talking about shit and never doing stuff what's there to get bullish about that's the way i look
at it cory also especially like on x not to not to call you out. But you are the most.
Active.
Reply guy I've ever seen.
But in most.
Scenarios.
Going by projects.
You can see who's supporting.
And who's not.
You can see.
On terms of.
Whether it be in Discord or on X.
You know the people people who are showing up
who are putting in the work you can see who's doing that and it shows opposed to especially
like certain developers um i've come across at least on x that are you know they want you to
support their project they want you to buy their nfts but yet they're not you know i buy an
nft and i talk about it and they don't comment they don't retweet it they don't show any love
towards it at all so it's like why do i want to be a part of something that i'm not getting the
love back for me showing and giving my hard-e to you. Show me that fucking bear anywhere.
I could be sober or not.
It could be smoking weed or not.
I will be getting fucking hyped.
I'll be like yo that's yours.
Oh fucking hell.
And the biggest.
Oh yeah.
The biggest thing is this.
I bought Utes.
And it prevented me from upscaling into D-Gods.
Because I would post a lot about my youths
i actually got followed by the youth account and then got unfollowed by the youth account
and frank never responded and i was i was like first or top 10 on ton of his posts
he would like a few of them back but dude you see somebody that spent three eth on an nft or an eth on an
nft you respond bro i don't give a who you are you're not beyond anybody to support anybody
i don't care how many followers you are you have i don't care what you got in your pocket
he wanted to be he wanted to rip you showed up to the party in i don't give a bro i don't
care what's on your wrist and what watch you got or what's on your neck or your earrings. Bro, that shit doesn't matter, bro.
Nobody's beyond supporting other people, bro. The humility in us, it's what makes us all human,
bro. We all have greed. We all have fear. We all have blood. We all have love. But anyways,
going back to Corey, you're absolutely right. But people that are passionate about what they're doing and absolutely love what they're doing. Those are the ones that I try to invest in the most because I know that they're not going to burn out when challenges arise, when circumstances become, you know, sticky, when things get a little situational.
operational. There's too many people that love what they do, and they're just never going to
give up on their dreams. And those are the people that I try to support and invest in the most.
And the people that are here seriously trying to move the space forward. I only follow probably
like 10% of the people that follow me. I could probably follow a lot more. And I try to do so.
I put out these posts and I literally follow everybody or I try to respond back to them
and connect with them genuinely.
But I really want to support people
that are bringing something to the table here.
And everybody has a voice.
Everybody has an opinion.
Everybody has a perspective.
Everybody has a take.
So come up here, give us a take, hit the request button.
I see a lot of OGs in the space.
Good to see you guys retweet the space we opened up the conversation by asking
the question is founders rugging projects or is it the community members
that sell aggressively go bearish you know have a negative sentiment on the
project are those the ones to blame and I want to hear your takes anybody that's
on the speaker panel is open mic and you guys are willing to drop some takes go ahead
gmgm tony king of hearts and phoenix corey dr solly and everybody else in the space
Corey, Dr. Solly, and everybody else in the space.
I think it's a question that belongs to the whole community itself
and with a strong leader.
So it's quite difficult to answer the question
because I think it depends on the community itself.
Yeah, you're right.
You'll have to ask the community because it's like, what happened?
It's like, we're all community members. what are you fucking talking about we've been here every
single day you asshole you took our money you took you took all the money out of the liquidity pool
you dunked all the nfts you floored the shit out of the project it's your fault so i guess yeah
you're right you gotta ask the nf you gotta ask the community what up jessica hope you're well
yo king i don't know if you know this i mean half you guys don't
fuck with pulse chain anyway right but there was a project over there that made somebody made a bayc
derivative right the original dev fucking minted it out took the funds and then changed the art
to a blank image right so there was a dope-ass developer on the chain
that because his marketplace scraped the metadata,
he was able to make this wrapper contract
where the people were able to go and basically claim
this white blank piece of paper for the actual art
that they invested for.
And then after that happened, a community member stepped away
because it was too much stress for him.
Right. And I got voted up to be the fucking CTO. Right. And that was over a year ago.
Since then, bro, I've over delivered everything that was, you know, basically promised and under delivered.
You know, like every this famous ass bullshit roadmap that these people make that had all these undelivered expectations.
You know, I went and blew that roadmap out the water.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I wanted to over deliver for a community that was basically dragged through the mud for over a year, you know, and I got voted to be this leader, you know.
So, like, it really, again, what I said, dude, it comes down to
dedication. You know, what is the caliber of your, your, uh, I don't want to say manhood. Cause we
got a lot of females that are, you know, chads too, but like, what is your caliber of your,
of your, you know, dedication? Like, where's your commitment? What level of honor do you have?
You know, all those things really mean something. Me, I come from being an
ex-drug dealer, bro. So like loyalty means everything to me. You know what I'm saying?
So when I find loyal people like you and my man, Tony, and, you know, we were just saying that
last night with me and Mikey, we were like, dude, I went to one plug for like half of my life
because he always respected me. You know, me you know if and we were saying that
with solely to if if things you know ever went wrong or i didn't like things they would support
me back you know they would you know swap product they would do whatever they had to do to keep
you know their clientele and their customers essentially happy but we don't i did the same
thing yep we don't see very much loyalty in web3 at all anymore
and that goes vice versa because i've seen founders completely switch on their community
and their project and then i've seen you know people in the community kind of rally people up
in a negative aspect and kind of go against the whole community sentiment and you know things generally don't work out very well so you know
what's your take on this you know the community and the founder have so much
of a correlation just back to you just jump jump in. Yeah, you know, I often just listen and try to learn and give myself an opinion of where I stand in the matter.
Because I've been in the space for some time, but I've never been so active as I am now.
as I am now.
And I did some thoughts.
You know, the chill airways that you had in space
and there was quite a lot of promotion about.
And I thought it sounded like a good project
with the meme token and all the things.
And then they just went away.
I can't find them anywhere. and i'm glad i didn't
put any money in it so i watched them too because i know that first day hype doesn't last forever
so i never buy on first day meme coins at ever and now to be honest i own zero meme coins
yeah but they did give some money away to the space they tried to promote themselves but
they had negative intentions it definitely seemed that way and guess what they fooled me
they could have fooled other people in the community and that's why i i said very cautiously
you know invest into the project because i honestly don't know very much their story any of their developers
and that's why you need to have conversation in spaces and they did things very fast that to me
was always a little bit of like a red concern or a flag but you'll only see these things after the
fact and you learn from it i don't want to endorse any meme tokens right now. I think that the memes, they haven't proven to themselves to have any longevity outside of just the chart.
And I know that they say, oh, community thrives.
It becomes so player versus player in almost every single meme coin community.
And then they fail.
So I know Phoenix threw a little bit in.
Phoenix, do you remember that project?
Yeah, I do.
I won their promotion.
I think it was, what was it, $250 USD.
Yeah, you did win.
Yeah, and all I did was just put $50 of what I won into the launch.
And then I was in the telegram.
And then later, I saw the next day, I forgot exactly what it was.
But basically saying that, I don't know what excuse or what they said, but basically that it had gone downhill from there.
But like I say, I only invest what I can afford to lose.
So I obviously lost the $50 that I put in.
So that was that.
And I just moved on.
No crying in the casino.
I invested what I could afford to lose.
I lost it and moved on.
It happened to me too.
I bought Fartcoin.
It went from $50 to $0 real quick.
That's the thing with meme coins.
They either go...
They either pop or bust right away.
King of Hearts, will you do meme coins this cycle?
Nah, I'm kind of done with meme coins.
I'm done with them, man.
Nah, it's just I don't see it if like something good
comes by the table and i get that feeling that i got when i first bought doge i first bought pepe
then you know maybe i'll throw a couple bucks in it right now the only meme coin i am holding
till this day is dogecoin um we ain't fucking with these meme coins anymore. I don't know. It's a casino.
You caught me on the wrong day. See, if you catch me on another day, I'll be like,
what's the fucking ticker? What's the ticker? But today I'm like, nah, fuck these meme coins. So
like I fluctuate and like feeling sometimes it's probably not good, inconsistent, but you know,
if I seen a good something good
came across my table i would buy it right now i'm not though yeah this you traitor how do you know
bro how the fuck do you know it's a new launch meme token you don't know the dev there's no
community it's built up in his fucking mom's basement in his fucking underwear how the fuck
do you know?
What research can you do on a meme token that just launched off a pumped off one?
That's why you only invest what you can afford to lose.
Exactly.
Absolutely.
100%. That's what I do.
You're getting dealt a fucking blind hand.
That's like...
You know how I invest in meme coins?
Aside from looking at the contract real quick
or whatever glazing through that i feel it in my small intestine i feel it in my small intestines
i feel it in my gut and i'm like this sounds fucking good take my money i'm just kidding i'm
getting hyped for no reason i'm, I'm a degenerate.
Honestly, I like the memes.
I don't really buy meme points to make.
I just like laughing.
The one, and I don't buy anything I'm talking about.
I just buy them because they're funny.
But like your mom.
That's a funny meme.
That's been a joke forever.
That's one of the oldest jokes in the history of my life. I have some of that too.
I have your mom.
Your mom is just funny.
And every time you post that, it's funny.
I'm holding some mom.
You told me it's funny.
I dumped your mom.
I couldn't hold that anymore.
You motherfucker.
You're not dumping my mom.
You motherfucker.
All right.
You're making fun my mom, you motherfucker. Alright, send me the token of C.
You're making fun of it already.
It's the perfect meme, almost,
if you're into your mom's type of comedy.
It's great.
It's like six-year-old fucking comebacks.
The only comeback they know, rebuttal, is your mom.
Exactly.
Exactly. It's a legendary meme. I'm kidding you. Yeah. comebacks the only comeback they know rebuttal is your mom exactly exactly
it's a legendary little kidding you yeah yeah i mean i i guess that's what it did to me but
that sounds very inappropriate so so going back to the conversation gm to everybody crypto coffee
cannabis we got some new speakers new panelists GM to everybody that's up here
Is it the founders? Is it the community? And then also who's to blame when it comes to financially?
Because sometimes things get a nasty turn and then things
Go south people think that like, you know, they want to take these lawsuits and stuff
It never works out for anybody. No one goes to small claims court for $5,000, $10,000, $20,000 in crypto and walks away with a settlement or a win.
So who's to blame financially when things don't work out?
Is it the founders?
Because Elon Musk will tell you he doesn't really care about the price of Tesla.
And he says it all the time.
I don't think that's a public good statement
You should be making
You know, I think that people should say I care about the floor price
I care about the stock price, but obviously I don't affect it directly
We're working and we're doing everything we possibly can in our business plan in our way paper in our blueprint to go and execute
But who's to blame financially is it the community
because the community ultimately controls the asset and the stocks price that's it once a
developer launches it once the developer sells it it's only up to the community to define the
value and the price on it and put value on it so I want to hear the opinions behind this
and put value on it so i want to hear the opinions behind this
king man give us the opinion start it off
queen king cory i like that queen king cory there's a lot of holy
it's a tongue twister i I'm a king and a queen?
Well, I just was reading the order of line I could see in my periphery.
He was going down the line. He was going down the line.
I was reading something while you were talking.
I want to give you my opinion. What are we talking about here? Sorry about that.
Financially, king, who's responsible?
The community ultimately...
Always financially responsible for every decision I make.
Every choice I make affects my finances.
I mean, even applied to in life, if you're talking about who's financially responsible for what?
Like a project?
For the project? No, because or um for the project no because the
community controls the floor price and the stock price and the founder only has that one opportunity
to mint right but if founders fail to show up and fail to you know produce and and drive results
communities may kind of take bearish and negative sentiment and then things financially don't work out doing all that
if the founder's doing all that and the community got together and was like i feel that the value
of these things should be right here and everyone that's selling their shit on the floor just brought
the price up and they continue to function how they function don't you think shit would catch on
and we'd be operating at a and on any like project would be operating at a higher
floor price. So I think the community does control the narrative of the floor too. As long as the
developer is doing everything he promised it is the community does hold the floor price. Yeah,
you're right. There's always that one person that's going to put it up for sale. That's going
to decide, I want to sell it before these guys. And they drop it 0.1 ETH or point. whatever. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then there's someone that jumps in front of them
and someone that jumps in front of them. So also too, is the quality of people you have in there.
You know what I'm saying? That has a lot to do with it as well. There's a lot of factors that
will control the floor price, especially in an NFT project. There are some people who just are
LARPs and they'll just trade off of your volatility and hold the shit out of
your floor price,
hold that down,
you know?
But,
there's,
that's,
yeah,
that was my answer to the question.
I agree with that.
I think,
I think both are,
again,
I think,
I think it goes both ways like that.
You're always going to have people who are looking to flip.
Oh, I can buy this for cheap, and I can sell it for 0.1 more or 0.01 more to make that $5.
There's always going to be those people.
You just know that they're out there, and you hopefully just can try to get yourself rid of as many of those as possible
and try to keep as many as you can.
How? How is decentralized? Was that you that said it earlier, too? rid of as many of those as possible and try to keep as many as you can how yeah how it's
decentralized i think some was that you that said it earlier too someone said this yeah but listen
how the hell do you do that no listen there are ways there are ways but i would i'm being devil's
advocate i want to know from his mouth how he would do it because it's easy said it's super
fucking easy said bro i mean you can't again you're not going to get rid of anyone.
I mean, any, no matter what, you can sweep the floor and buy 50 of them.
And the next day, it's the same floor price as what it was.
Because you always have that one person.
As ideas trying to do it, I'm not, you know, I mean, it's in a sense of if you bought it
for 0.1 and can flip it for 0.3 that's a huge win like i totally get that but also like you could
also wait two more days and maybe get 0.5 if you would just list it where everybody else is
so i i mean like i feel like it's just the individual trying to get rid of them is just
trying to find a group of people that you trust to just kind of try to collect as many as you can
and you know i struggle with the same you should go trade perps and go like with these charts
don't come to like a hundred percent a hundred percent oh yeah i'm gonna fucking do my trick
i'm gonna g here here here set it for 0.1 like we're all with everybody seeing the longevity
and the developers working his ass off and there's someone that's like well i bought it for 0.1 i want
to sell it for 0.2 and make a quick buck like go trade bitcoin or something but um right you know
i think mexy had a take she was about she was about to say something before. What up, Mexie? How are you?
Hi, Vincent. I'm doing good. Yeah, I just wanted to say, like, I'm going to play what Tony said, devil's advocate.
Like, the beauty of decentralization is that in this industry, in this world, it is very much a community that controls
the financial price. But if we're talking like traditional finance and shareholding,
something like Tesla, if the price wasn't delivering and the price wasn't going up,
it's very much a founder and team's fault. It's not a shareholder's perspective.
The issues like we see in this space is the entitlement that communities feel to founders. And they very much have the right as investors to kind of dictate what they're unhappy with or demand and I've been on the backend and I understand like what it takes to
ensure like that you're actually putting effort into what you promise you're going to deliver.
So I think like founders who over promise and under, I mean, over promise and deliver,
those are very much the ones that they're not doing their job. And so it's not very much a
community that's dictating the price, but in a situation where you have like, you know, I don't I wasn't involved with like early doodogenics.
So I'm not sure what, you know, the floor price battles look like.
If there were holders who held like a majority, like, you know, you have whales who very much control floor price and are demanding and expect things from people.
or demanding and expect things from people. So I'm not sure how it worked. But when you have
So I'm not sure how it works.
somebody like Tony, that's like pushing a project, and he's doing everything he promises and more.
And if there's no price appreciation, that doesn't go back to the founders or the team,
it very much goes back to the community, and how they're controlling it. So I think it just
depends like how we're talking, we want the decentral decentralization we want to be able to control
um you know something by because we back it and believe in it and so it's like it's one of those
things where it's like you get the good and the bad within it um so i hope the answer is like
kind of some of the question you're asking tony gm tony and phoenix gm gm gm i like to take from
everybody everybody has a great perspective.
It's not as easy as it is.
Jess, jump into the conversation.
Go ahead.
We don't need anybody to queue you up.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I was thinking about what Maxi said about the floor price and stuff.
And I see I have four beers and I bought them for my price.
And every day, every day I get offers that are below four low price and very, very low.
And how could anybody think I would sell my beers for a price lower than I bought?
Then I wouldn't be a community member.
And then I would just buy these and sell them because I didn't want
them I want my BS and I want the community to be successful so I would never sell them
for that but there are people that are and that's what we were talking about the people who are
holding down the floor price those are the exact people that put bots out to put these super low
offers because there's going to be someone out of two, 300 people that might be in a squeeze. That's like, shit, I really need the
money. I'll let it go for a little less than a floor price to get the money. Now there are people
that do that. And when they do that, the, the people who are trading against you win. So,
you know, it's, it's important to not accept those, those with low wealth prices. If you need to sell your NFT, there's a way to exit and you'll still get the money fairly quick because there's a lot of – there's always been for the past several years, there's always been a lot of volume on the project.
So it's not like anybody's going to really have to wait.
Some projects, sometimes you put something up for sale, you got to wait a couple months to to sell it and then you might be more enticed to accept those wet offers but we appreciate
that yeah we appreciate that you're in it for the long haul Jess hell yeah and also I just like to
echo again the difference between what a real community is I um unfortunately with the doodle genus community, some people came into the community without really understanding or realizing what community really means.
As I said before, a community is a group of people who come together because of shared goals, shared values, shared visions, same beliefs, same culture.
shared vision, same beliefs, same culture. And some people come because they have bastardized
the name or the meaning of community. And they're just there to fill their bags, to one up people,
to lower the floor. They don't care about the floor or the community. They're just there to
turn a profit. And unfortunately, some people may have collected a lot of the tokens because
they wanted to do just that. They had that in mind when they joined the community. So they had
ulterior motives. But then at the same time, there are ethical whales. I'm one of them.
Vincent is one of them. So just having a lot of tokens isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I think it was Corey saying, you know, you should prevent people from having so much of a token or an NFT.
But sometimes people, when you believe so heavily in something like the Doodle Genics community,
I invested heavily because I believed in Doodle's vision.
I believed in his abilities.
I believed in hisodle's vision. I believed in his abilities. I believed in his
heart and soul. I believed in the fire that would fuel him and motivate him to work relentlessly for
the community. So that's why I invested heavily, especially in the Ethereum brand. I have over
250. Have I floored? Have I endangered the floor? No, I haven't. Have I sold and lowered the floor?
No, I haven't. Have I sold all my friends just to get like a few? I'm sorry. Financial gain?
Yeah, financial gain. No, I haven't. Because I believe in the community. I know what community
means. And I ascribe to those principles principles and I'm here for the long term.
I mean, and that's respectful. Much respect to you for that.
That's I mean, there's you're always going to find a few, you know, people.
And obviously, you know, I'm relatively new to the NFT market myself, just being like two to three months in and just trying to find a specific
community where I kind of fit in. So like, obviously it's going to be different for every
single person, but obviously not every NFT just because it's booming is for everybody. And that's
kind of what I've learned myself. You kind of have to find what you like and where you kind of fit in
and where you can help. And so those were kind of like the three things that I looked for when I
went for communities. And again, respect to all whales and who support, and obviously not every
single person is going to be like that. We're just unfortunately in the space where that's what people do people are in it for
the quick buck um and that's just the unfortunate part of it um but yeah i mean like not everybody is
the same you know even even if you were a whale there's nothing wrong with taking
obviously in my opinion there's nothing wrong with taking profit, but also you can take profit without hurting the floor and without hurting other.
Yeah, respecting the floor, respecting the chart.
So, yeah, I'm not saying I'll never sell a doodle.
I mean, of course, you know, you can sell and you can make a profit.
can make a profit, that's your right as a community member as well, but just doing it respectfully
That's your right as a community member as well.
and with the community in mind as you move within the, sorry, I'm losing my voice.
No, 100%.
Yeah.
100%.
Community, it's-
I'm still sick.
The mindset of community first, right?
Community first is obviously the mindset.
And those are the kind of people that you want to align yourself with and make
sure that you have, you know,
as many of those like-minded people around you and with you as possible.
Absolutely, brother.
Communities are the reason why and platforms generally do well.
You can have the best tech.
You can be the best founder.
You can launch.
You can have a smooth launch.
But if people are not the end user and they're enjoying it, they're benefiting from it, they're valuing from it, getting some sort of value from it, it just doesn't work out.
And Phoenix, like I said, she's the biggest holder in both of our doodle genic
collections and she's been one of the most ethical traders of doodle genics she's barely sold any I
think maybe she sold one out of two out of like 200 300 doodles she also has like 50 doodles on
Solana so um you know she has 300 nfts Once you start collecting that many of something,
you're doing it with purpose and you're doing it with like a passion.
She loves the pink bear.
She loves the trades.
She loves supporting the space.
But she's also doing it because she does believe in the vision.
She does believe in where we're going. She's been to almost every single IRL event that we've had,
other than the ones that were, you know, out of state.
But Phoenix, you're an absolute legend.
King of Hearts, you're a legend.
Keith, he's the legend.
I thought I had been to all the IRL events.
Which ones did I not go to?
Well, we did like a little meetup in Vegas, you know, with Keith and stuff like that,
but it wasn't anything.
We'll be doing something soon.
We'll be announcing it very soon, Queen.
These bats here in the night are bigger than fucking birds.
And they're like fucking wrestling in the trees.
I could see them coming up to my fucking balcony as I'm smoking weed off of the balcony.
Shit's fucking crazy. I feel like these guys are gonna eat me, Mikey.
I'm gonna catch SARS off of a fucking bat that just bit me out here.
Jesus Christ.
If I ever go down other states rugs autonomously, that's what happened.
Anyways, going back to the conversation, let's see who's alive.
Ramdog, you've been engagement farming this whole time with no takes.
With no takes, my dog.
Still no takes.
Ramdog.
What am I going to do, Kinghearts?
Low vibes, low energy.
Warm up a coffee.
Who are you even talking about?
There's no one up here by that name.
I think he fell down.
Oh, by the time I got back to that,
I was in the middle of surfing through the Twitter web.
By the time I came back, he was gone already.
He exited.
You didn't need me to come and get him.
I thought you needed me to come and give him the boot.
Uh, shit.
No, I got, uh, listen.
I just, I just loaded a big ass truck.
All right.
I carried a lot of boxes this morning.
I know I only worked like three hours on Tuesday and everybody's like, oh, it's so cool.
You have a half day.
Bullshit.
I do enough work for the whole entire work and the work week in these three hours.
And I'm here, baby.
Full of energy, zero caffeine. I only drank water. I ate a banana. I broke my fast a little while ago. So
I'm fucking ready for the day, man. I'm ready for the day. It's only 1041 AM over here. Who
the hell is tired at this time on the East coast, at least? King of hearts is fired up phoenix is dropping alpha you guys are coming in hot and heavy i
love it man it's a real alpha
low t low e some of the nft projects we're involved in guys quick question what do you
think of ethereum this cycle what do you think is gonna
reach i think it's gonna blow up in everybody's goddamn face that they've been abusing it for
the past few months and it's gonna absolutely blow up in everybody's face but that's just
that's exactly what i think i'm bullish on the ethereum uh chain i like the the versatility of
it i like the the way like yo eat like painted the picture
like and i'm up over i'm up over nine bucks on the fucking long on 8x let's fucking go
i held like a real fucking soldier i didn't fucking pussy out i didn't get liquidated i
was not even close to liquidation yeah so i think it's gonna i think that eat is
gonna you know what that fucking position is right now my god yo solely tell me that you still held
that long bro bro i got i i got stopped out while i was asleep but with profit with 200 percent
still nice you closed off with a 200 gain yeah man that was my stop loss i was up
300 but uh i was like nearly passing out so i just said a sudden loss yeah well dude you're at 200x
leverage that's something different you know you obviously you don't like to trade so much
that you didn't listen to do long leverage i'm'm up 42% of the trade after fees and taxes.
I put one soul in.
I'm up 60 bucks.
65 bucks after, oh, 65 bucks before fees and taxes.
After fees and taxes, 60 bucks.
Dope.
40 fucking percent, bro.
43 percent.
44 percent. It's moving
We're showing people the fucking ways bro
Easy profits
Easy money baby
Hands free money
That's what I like
Then you go and take that soul out and you use that soul that
you got you turn that sixty dollars into USDC and then you go and you start a liquidity farming pool
and if soul drops lower than it currently is at 162 or 161 and a half you collect a bunch of more
soul out at discount and then you just repeat the process again
You take some of that soul and then you sure you go long again
you could go short, you know, but
Choppy times it's bullish times, baby. I'm a bull. This is a bull market. I want to see this market appreciate
When we see new all time I'm definitely a bullies when you go short a
Little bit higher than new all-time highs, that's when you go short. A little bit higher than new all-time highs.
You're definitely to see some retracement.
But anyways, let's ask Moon the question we've been asking everybody all morning.
GM, GM Moon.
We've been having a great space, great conversation.
We've been asking our founders to blame when projects rug due to their lack of performance,
lack of guidance, lack of performance lack of guidance lack of
leadership or is it communities that sell aggressively that just rug the project floor
price and token price that dunk on founders and community members uh are they to blame for the
projects you know lack of success and longevity what's up my guy gm in the am so that's a very interesting question um as everything
is always his own poker hand right but in generalities i think um that there becomes
a collection of um people not wanting to be the last one left holding the bag. And I think that whenever you think,
so if you're talking in terms of token prices
and like NFT sales and stuff like that,
like there's going to be,
like people are going to have their stop losses set on the tokens.
They're going to have their prices in mind,
like how low they want,
they're willing to let their NFT drop
before they want to just get their money back,
all this sort of thing.
I feel like if you can find a way to keep people content
and keep the value that they put into the,
to whatever they put into,
like offer some sort of staking opportunity
to where it just keeps the price stable right or something like that now
developers I don't like to just call everything a rug because like I think of developers as
business people right like they calculate the amount of time and money that they're
going to put into something and they do expect a return. So whenever things don't work out over X amount of
time, right? I don't, of course, it just makes sense that the project's going to rug. So at the
end of the day, like in this world, especially in this small web three community, it's kind of like
a game of angel investing. Um, it's really the most, I'd say, risky investments you can make are going to be
in Web3. You don't really necessarily know these people. Very rarely do you meet people face-to-face.
Very rarely are you doing business with contracts. It's really just price and and what's in it for me right now for the most part um
so yeah i doodle is hard i don't really have necessarily have a complete real answer for you
i just don't think that it's fair two edges it's a two-edged sword bro i just don't think it's
fair it's not a one-sided question it's not black and white right i just don't i guess my big my big
final point is like i just i i tend to side with the developers i tend to side with the developers
here because i understand like nobody likes to work for free right like these guys feel like
they're putting in the majority of the work in the project like it does make sense that like they should be able to
quote you know rug it at for salvation uh at some point you know maybe they can move on to the next
project right and this is where investors have to become smart you know no no no listen i see your point and your perspective is valid and i totally see where
you're coming from because here's the thing nobody wants to invest their time forever just
because you launch an nft project doesn't mean you owe everybody the world and moon i made that
mistake as an early founder, bro.
I tried to make every single person happy all the time.
I drove myself insane.
I almost burned out, bro.
But I had thick skin, resilience.
I took the feedback, the harsh feedback, the negativity.
And I just continued building and proving everybody wrong. And I'm the type of person is when you doubt me, it also fuels me as well.
So thank you for anybody who
has a little bit of doubt of doodle genics or tony um but you're absolutely right because people
don't want to work for free uh it's a one-time mint it's maybe a one-time token launch if the
the supply is fully diluted and does the the developer is getting half a percent of the
supply or less there's not a lot of monetization or, you know, compensation there.
I totally get where he's coming from.
But is it right, though?
Do you like people that build businesses?
King of Heart said it earlier.
You know, sometimes people that try to go out and build businesses,
they're not the right person to accomplish the job and their business fails.
And it's not that they want to be a failure.
They just weren't the right individual
to accomplish the job.
And I think that has some merit to it as well too.
Is that what you're referencing too?
Because you can't just rug a fucking project.
I don't care if you're in the gutter.
You can't just rug it because you don't like it.
Like there has to be a commitment to it.
Doc said it earlier.
Like what you build, you should be committed to it.
Now, I understand the market changed and things changed, but what's your take?
So oftentimes, like these developers are getting VC money or like funding from somebody, right?
funding from somebody, right? So there's like people that they have to think about more so
than just random, like fish mentors of the project. And that's just the cold reality of business.
And so that's kind of where my standpoint is coming as a dev. If you want to keep dev in,
and you have some sort of project that's not working out, but you have a small,
some sort of project that's not working out, but you have a small finite amount of people that are
willing to buy into your holders or buy into your project. To me, Doodle, those people are just
people that made bad investments because everybody in Web3 is their own individual entrepreneur.
Whether or not you are the developer or the creator, you run your own program, right?
So your investments are your business.
And if you're making bad investments, I just don't think it's necessarily fair to hold
devs to the fire.
Now, holding pre-sales, all this, like holding pre-sales that don't like align to the plan
that you put out and changing things and going against your word
that all that is different but just like simply not being able to to continue to keep the momentum
up uh i mean it's like it's like you know mcdonald's ain't gonna keep cooking burgers if
nobody comes to the drive-thru right like they're not just gonna keep whipping up these fucking
burgers putting them on the counter and then letting them sit there to ruin and be like, all right, these burgers are ruined.
Let's make 20 more. Let's go 20 more burgers. Boom. All right. Now those burgers are ruined. Let's make 20 more.
Like there has to be a stock to value rate. Like there has to be stock to value.
And so if we don't have that, then it's just not a good investment to make.
And at the end of the day, Mexi, Heat, Jessica, King of Arts Doodle, you guys all run your own program.
You all run your own business here in Web3.
And so just watch where you tie your money into, right?
Like just developers are developers.
And oftentimes they have to look out for the VCs and the people funded a project more so than individual
mentors and buyers.
I'd like to take.
There's no wrong take here. It just perspective it's opinion i always have the cold takes
don't worry i always come through with no listen it's it's dope to have an unfavorable take
all right yeah some people sided with the developers some people sided with the community
some people said both a lot of people said both because it isn't that clear.
I just try to get people to understand, like, to be, I guess, more, I mean, some people just got money they can throw around, right?
Like, they make a whole fuckload of money in the IRL, so Web3 is like, it's just fun for them to toss bills around or whatever.
And honestly, some people love to talk about how they got rugged, bro.
I mean, like, we see this shit happen all the time. people still talk about the fucking wagami cabal and all this shit like even though
like i wasn't even here for i've never really even seen a token launched by these guys bro like i've
been here since january like if i have they're doing it in the shadows right like i missed their
whole like pre-sale era but yet people still freaking lure on the fact that they got rugged by, you know, Toley or whoever the hell it is.
Or not Toley, fucking, uh, they were just on a stage the other day talking about some shit with Miri.
Lenox, bro. Lexapro, Lexapro.
Like, somebody like that, right?
Like, living in the phase house like
these like these quote quote influencer celebrities right like people kind of like the
lore of getting rugged by them like whether or not they say it or not bro they freaking talk about
it they put that in and i mean they obsess over it bro it's weird it's weird energy to me and i
think my biggest thing is like if i can just knock people upside the head and like make them a little bit smarter where
they put their money like there'd be less shitty projects getting funded there'd be less people
talking about getting rugged in web3 everything right it's like we need smarter investors, honestly, then then we need better builders.
In my opinion, I guess that's my final take.
I guess it is on the on the community.
Interesting take.
I like it.
There's no right or wrong take guys.
Come up here.
Join the conversation.
It's open.
Mike rehab.
You've been quiet all day, baby.
GM in the AM am what is cracking
taco tuesday go get a fucking taco what's up my guy join the conversation what's your whole take
on this hey my fam gmgm from switzerland so you know always my barrier is the language you know
i wish i could talk like you guys in English and with passion,
but it's not an excuse.
So I will try my best.
So today is a little bit cloudy in Switzerland.
No, no, no.
Don't tell me about the clouds.
Join the conversation.
Is it the founder's fault or the community's fault when projects
start? Alright, look, okay.
I will take the question
serious. So, look,
I'm now in a situation
of a deaf. I not
know that before two months
ago. I did that
project, you know,
spontaneously, and now I'm
the deaf. The problem, biggest problem here hey i did
so many deals in my life you know in real life but the problem in web 3 is the fucking trust
to trust to each other you know this is the biggest value uh and the biggest problem in the same time.
This is my opinion.
And you don't know who is behind this doodle or,
I don't know, behind this avatar.
And this is the challenge, you know, to, you know,
I have a
fucking, I did something, but
I'm honest, and I will never
sell, but nobody
trusts me, you know, nobody trusts me,
and I also get
paranoid here in this
world. This is more,
hey, we had 50 kilo,
100 kilo deals before in
K, and this was less paranoid than in this world
and this is a reality i realized now in the last two months so yeah i'm 46 you know i'm maybe a
little bit older than you guys but it's i'm learning i'm learning daily and learning is doing and this is my philosophy
and if you ask me about the dev or the community look the dev is one person this is something you
can go and find out a little bit you know you can you can go after him, you can check if he's
real, if he's true, blah, blah, blah. But the community is all about mathematics. Are
there thousand community members owning only 0.1% or are they 10 people owning this and that, you know, then they are whales.
It's all about how the community is built.
I guess if the community is bright, you know,
it's not concentrated in some people
and the project is real and the death is real,
the project will make its way.
And this is what keeps me alive otherwise i'm close
to go in a rehab again and i'm so happy to live in switzerland so the government covers that and
but i try to not be i mean you know me i lost seven figures in 44 and family and all that shit and you know
what i had big contracts but my opponent or opposite guy was a rich guy and he had so much
money it doesn't count a contract blah blah blah what i want to say is always i look now after the people
uh on the people who is behind it who is doodle you know i'm here because you are doodle
because i know you're honest you talk from heart you make not make a show this is the
make a show this is the reason I'm here and this is what I learned the hard way
look always up to people behind the project or whatever in live life or in
Web3 so this is my English I'm so sorry guys I wish I could talk more better, but it's all about the people behind.
So that's it, man.
You got a great take, brother.
I appreciate you coming up here.
Dr. Soley, back to you, bro.
Oh, sorry, man.
I had my mic on.
Sorry, guys.
No, you're good.
Moon, what's up?
Well, rehab.
Oh, go ahead, Phoenix.
Yeah, I was just going to say rehab was saying that with this project, it's hard for people to trust him.
And with trust, trust doesn't evolve overnight.
It only develops after consistent effort, consistent demonstrations of trustworthiness, consistent acts that highlight your
reliability. Trust is really fostered through just consistent communication and transparency.
So it's something that you develop over time. And that's what Doodle has done just through his,
he's made a big footprint here. He's set a trail that you can look
back on and see those consistent acts. So once you do that, I think it might be easier for you
to develop a project once you put in the effort, put in the work to demonstrate your trustworthiness
to leave a footprint that people can see and look back on
and see those acts of trust and they see that then you'll foster the trust and then you'll get people
to to uplift your project and want to be involved oh phoenix thank you so much it's really touching
what you are saying and it it's absolutely the truth.
And I discovered that at the beginning.
I mean, yeah, I can come here and I'm homeless.
I will never rock somebody.
You know, I could never imagine this money, enjoy such a money to rock small people, you know.
But I discovered, oh, this world is so paranoid and I have
to prove and yeah I'm here and I choose the Google Jennings because he's the
real deal he's the real guy and he talks from heart I feel that you know and this
is why I'm here and I'm so also happy to meet you here Phoenix you know it's not
only about your beautiful voice relaxing relaxing voice, it's also your
takes you bring inside here and I really appreciate you guys and it helps me to survive somehow in
this hole I am. Can you imagine to lose seven figures and lose life it's not easy and I'm so happy to be here and Phoenix I'm you know
I will I it, Phoenix.
No, you're joking.
No, you're joking.
You're so hot.
You'll do it?
I got to say one thing.
Every day,
first of all, I have to dope BFP.
Second, every day you come in into space, you speak magnificent English.
And you apologize every day.
Stop that.
You speak great English.
Thank you so much, man.
That helps me a lot.
You know, it's a barrier.
It's like, you know, I shame you a little bit.
It's because I know I cannot talk like you guys but i can talk through german i can talk
german i can talk a good friend french is not so good but i can my parents are coming from istanbul
50 years ago i saw i can talk turkey so don't discredit yourself bilingual you speak a lot
of different languages that's dope yeah yeah but
here is uh about english and you know at the end i talk from my heart and i guess you you you guys
understand me what i mean even if it's not correctly and grammatically i know that but
at the end we have the queen here you know uh ph Phoenix, and we have the king here, the doodle, and they will take care.
They will correct me.
Yeah, so so nice to crash the discussion here.
And I send you all, guys, my biggest love from my heart from Switzerland. And if you once come here
or in Germany, whatever,
hey, let me know
and let us meet.
And can you imagine?
Sometimes I'm told,
hey, this group,
can you imagine
we're sitting on the same table
and looking on your eye?
We did a huge
doodogenic meetup in New york you know that would be
so interesting we had over 20 people at a doodle gen x meet up and we had my man the 404 man pay
for the entire bill he was an absolute legend so we have real genuine people here from our community
that just want to give back bro that they just want to uplift the community, bro.
We've sat at dinners and been there eye to eye, you know, smoked some gorilla fingers
together, had some dinner, had some cocktails, had a blast.
And we're going to continue doing that, bro.
I think there's a huge, huge portion of like the in real life meetups that people are missing out on especially if
they're just living like abroad or digitally or maybe they just don't have the means to make it
to one of these things but being here in crypto bro we're trying to give you guys all the right
place i've given you guys plays with trades i'm giving you guys plays to monetize here on x
whether you are monetized or not you can still learn you know a lot more you know through the doodle gen X NFTs people that bought them for the low
can flip them and make profits like we're just all about giving back and
just really seeing this out I my goal is to retire generations with wealth and
now that's a tweet that I put on my timeline I'm not pinning anything up to
the top or anything like that or engagement farming you guys. I show up, I grind. I work for all the ways that we can make the community better.
People identified ways that founders could be better.
And I believe that there's a solution in a lot of these problems.
So when there is a problem, if you ignore it, that's the original issue versus you understanding
the problem and then just kind of, you know, analyzing it,
you know, formulating,
and then after taking massive action to solve it
or to overcome it.
King of Hearts, man, what's the vibe, baby?
How you feeling?
Markets are doing good.
The fucking market keeps going up, baby.
My long positions making me feel like a fucking genius right now.
I'm fucking up big, King.
I'm up huge, King.
Be it.
We're going for lobster tail.
It's time to upgrade that bike, that motorbike.
You got to put a fucking Hemi engine in that motorbike when you make it big, Tony.
You guys that are hating on the fucking 155.
I'm not hating on it.
I think it's fucking dope, dude.
I'm going to be getting wrecked.
I'm spending like two sold, three sold every month for my car.
More.
That was shooting it low.
Dude, you know what it feels like?
I'll be honest.
It feels like driving a fucking huge Ford Explorer or an Escalade.
And then after it having a a small engine but it goes pretty
fast it goes like 75 miles an hour compared to the other bikes that are on the road unless you
have like a kawasaki ninja i'm like one of the bigger bikes you know so i'm pulling up with some
style dot i'm pulling up with some style rehab.
Yeah, that's a nice long if you went.
I'm kind of waiting for it to touch near that 165 level.
Then I'm going to short. There's a fib of it.
Do I close 50% up or just let it ride back up to 180?
Personally, like I said, I'm waiting on that 160.
Liquidation price is 135.
Yeah, sure. I would 135 yeah sure I would close that
but that's just me
because I'm expecting
a retracement to like the 138
144 level I think
165 might be the fib
that tops us out here on this
pump but that's a good long though
if you see it go under one 140
141 and a half you let me know that'll be crazy when i short from this level i'll obviously be
taking profits a lot sooner than 138 right but uh but like that's kind of where my mind was at before yesterday,
looking at, like, the four hours in the day.
Bro, but they just kept pumping that shit yesterday, so I got exhausted.
Fucking, yeah.
The short time frames just kept getting more and more bullish for no reason.
But, yo, Doodle, I do have, like, a ticker.
I haven't even been sharing it, really.
It's kind of a – I really believe in this ticker. It't even been sharing it really it's kind of a i really believe in this
ticker uh it's called groctimus if y'all want to look into that i don't really even i don't even
really hard to feel it you know for whoever's paying attention just uh you know it's called
groctimus grok powered optimus there's a team there's going to be market making volume bots
boost uh we got a few different people
that are going to rep a gold badge for the for the uh account of the token right so we should
be able to get the word out it should do pretty well and it's only at an 80k market cap so
this is the only fucking space that i've talked about it in just because i respect you guys and
the way that you trade and the way that you think about the crypto market so try to keep it in good hands you know
while it's at these uh good values of course um because supply is cheap i told it to my irl friend
yesterday bro looked at it and now he's in the one percent chat i onboarded him to phantom and
then he's getting the one percent chat all of a sudden you're gonna get
him right first first ever buy was just a fucking ape and to grok him he said you're gonna get him
fucking he better not be a normie friend he's gonna run away and disappear for the normie
friend too a nine-round friend he just said it he put the irl in the url you know money though like he's fine bro
he's he's a he's a hustler you know what i'm saying he's he got he got money he got cash that
he can spend but uh yeah i feel like what i want is for this to shoot that way he's like you know
one of those guys where well i say first he what he did take part in the Doge run-up. Like the very first, the OG Doge run-up.
Like the roaring, like the Wall Street bets, like kind of madness.
The roaring 20s.
Right, this was the 2021 run.
That got me in the game.
That goddamn little Dogecoin bull run wrecked me.
I've never been the same since.
I'm over here with you guys every day now.
I think about if that Doge Bowl run never happened.
I wouldn't know any of you guys.
Thank you for that.
It definitely got me hooked on the hopium.
I still think I got the itch of the hopium pipe from Dogecoin's OG run-up
and GameStop AMC, that whole fucking thing that took place
around that same time period bro
it's just it's just crazy like that was that was like the formation of like
that was i don't know bro like that was like the the og formation of like web3
like cult communities like if we're gonna freaking beat the whales like that was awesome
undoubtedly but yep this grok should be good.
I hope it takes off.
That way he has the same hopium I have.
That'd be sick.
That'd be sick.
I turned 500 into 40,000 with Doge around that time.
That was epic.
I'm planning on doing the same with Groctimus.
I think actually this is like a six-figure play for me, bro.
I think I'm bullshitting you now, but this is a recorded space.
That's why I'm saying it so I can come back and clip it.
Word up.
All right, let's go.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
What are we smoking on today guys i'm about to say y'all want to go ball with me real quick i got an absolute banger queued up you already know i just i just wrote
a fight you say let me get this you got yes jpl on smoking on some purple miami vice bro it's got my eyes low it's got my
shoulders low it's got the price of bitcoin higher than it's ever been almost a couple couple
percentage away oh i'm at 50 now and i'm at eight percent leverage it's pretty nice half a soul
now and I'm at 8% leverage it's pretty nice half a soul turn but like you said
it imagine if my long water still being in bro shit it couldn't have been
because I closed it like 154 155 it would have been impossible for it to been in
because you were such high leverage yeah yeah my liquidation was like uh 151 i think 152 a
lauren what's up man your hand's gonna turn purple what's up man gm in the am
gm to you gm to all of you it's really really really amazing to speak to you guys. Dudu, I've been a big fan and sending love all the way from Nigeria.
So I have a take concerning my way I speak.
Give me your take, brother. I would love it.
Yeah. So actually, I am up and coming in the Web3 community, right?
And I try to network as much as possible possible try to make new friends here on x and when you
get to the part of me telling them my location where i am from and i tell them i am in nigeria
you know you know the reputation we have in the web tree in the web tree space not just
the web tree space in the world generally it is it is quite a fucked up reputation and it is quite hard
to build friends given where i live but i i'm not even gonna lie i've been tempted a couple of times
to like nah i don't tell them nigeria let me look for another country and tell them and then just
build the connection and maybe later later I can reveal my real identity.
But I've just been stalling, you know, and making friends is quite hard.
But thankfully, it's not the case here in the Deutogenics community.
I feel like it's all love and pure positive vibe, something I am grateful for.
I'm not going to lie.
Well, welcome, my brother.
I appreciate you being here.
We got lots of people from Nigeria.
We got lots of people all over the world.
I'm in Thailand right now, so I appreciate you tapping in.
We're grinding into the late hours.
People are grinding in and maybe
to the afternoon or maybe some people on the west coast are just waking up and we're just
one giant community bro so i applaud you for coming up using your voice and if you got to take
on who's to rug whether it's the founders or the communities you're more than willing to share, bro. Go ahead, bro. Like I said, I am just coming up in the crypto community,
but with time, I would have more and more things to talk about.
Dope.
Much love for hanging out, man.
You're one of us.
Light it up.
Like Dr. Soley said, Moon, what's cooking?
Man, the only thing that's cooking is this absolute banger here and the tree in my bowl
And he's a pro to J
Pranik so where you say
Light it up light it up
GM GM buy some broccoli. I provide all my wants and needs I got the sunshine, rivers and trees
Me needs
When me see Jah, me see a way
Just take all this drive from hypocrisy, I say, hey
Every man to them own a philosophy
I live the proper way and then me read a chapter 9, hey
When they in a city hungry and not eat
And food they down a country does a drop off of the tree
You see, poverty no real then
Is what the reason revealing
Who knows?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Who knows?
Yeah, pretty bullish.
Pretty bullish on these memes, baby.
It's about time we get some meme rotation.
You already know the whale's been accumulating their salami.
About to see some launches.
About to see some runners.
This is the way it goes.
Let's run it.
Hey, yo.
Hamid, you been up here for a minute.
What's up, man?
You engagement farming or you got a take for us?
GM in the AM.
He's at the swamp.
Hamid!
Yeah, he's getting flushed
I'll be honest
Memes to me sometimes are hit and miss
I have to kind of know the team and see the performance
I like to kind of get in as I see a breakout
Or I see, you I see a nice bottom.
Sometimes.
Charts can't go any lower.
Community's holding bags in positions.
It's not even worth for them to sell.
I want to see what you guys do.
Moon.
Cook baby.
Cook it up.
It's just at like a chill market cap right now.
Interesting stuff.
King of Hearts, what are you cooking up right there, man?
Shuffling up the beats on the streets.
I'm working, you know, I'm working on Wayroot.
Uploading some new producers.
Big vibes, big facts.
And that's it.
Chilling like a woman.
Holy shit, I'm dropping everything except my Bitcoin
and Solana. I'm still
longing it.
Smart, smart man.
Did you get in on it?
On Bitcoin and Solana?
Yeah, on any longs recently?
Yeah, I printed on a long recently.
But like last week, a couple days ago.
That was it.
I didn't take out another one.
I'm too engulfed in other shit right now to be doing this, you know, to be trading.
So I'm holding.
I'm sitting on my hands and i'm just
um being patient because if you don't have time to pay attention to pay close attention then don't
you know don't be taking out perpetual trades that's um not a good recipe in in my experience
at least you know some people are different or use lower leverage yeah
yeah see low leverage is boring though so yeah i guess the way it's the best way to win though bro it's the best way to win bro it is it is if i were to low leverage that trade that i opened the other
day even if i would have just halved it i would have you know i would have
been able to keep my position till now and i've had a massive back but still still a good trade
still a great trade you can't look back you just gotta look forward you know and then find that
position find that opening find that timing right it's obviously better like King of
Hearts said just to kind of hold on your hands sit on your hands time in the
market is better than timing the market unless there's a big factory reset you
see a big you know back to the reset you know what I mean a big market we set
red candle a big fat red candle or a big fat green candle, then there's something you could do.
So right now, I'm looking at the charts, and I just want to give a little five-second TA.
Not that it fucking matters or not that anybody cares, but we're up at over 1066, which is pretty pivotal.
We're closing over the seven day moving average if we close and stay above this
level we can see it go back to probably like what's this price point here 109 to 111 which
is all-time high price point it's only a difference of 3k bro overall for the last month bitcoin's up about 12 percent last uh 90 days 20 percent
this is bullshit coin market cap doesn't give accurate fucking stats anyways
it's just aggregated fucking news people just like the ux of it solana is at 162 70 bro
this is immaculate.
I keep all looking back at the trade
because it's just moving so quickly
and I'm seeing mega profits.
But what are you thinking?
We close above today.
We see some all-time highs
or do you think it's going to retrace back down to some lower levels?
God damn it.
I got to be paying attention to give you a serious analysis.
But I'm pulling up right now on my phone.
We've kind of just been chilling going sideways, kind of.
I see we got green today.
You're talking about Solana.
Solana's up 6% today, bro.
It is.
It is.
The daily chart looks amazing now, Solana.
I think it's definitely going to go up to 180 now.
Oh, there's 162.9.
Damn.
Let's see if we can hold.
Come on. you know oh there's 162.9 damn let's see if we can hold come on we might just break 163 and then bitcoin just sends higher bitcoin's trying to get up to one 107 let's go baby solely bro this is what being an understanding trader is you see opportunities
you take them you see the market moving your move with it can't just sit on your hands all the time
unless you're dca or you have a smart moves. Watch the market, that's the key man.
That's what I've been doing especially since I'm in here every day.
The first thing I do is check the markets and just throughout the day I just check them a few times,
you know, see if I've got a nice entry point, see what the market's doing today.
We had a steady Monday to start the week off but yeah as expected we're going up up up and if you
just look at the daily chart and everything i don't know zoom out look at the daily we're on
a big green candle now and if you look up recent pumps like this they've at least had three of
these four of these green candles on the daily chart and we're just starting the first one right
now where's the fucking chart button on Jupiter, bro. I
Just see the order buttons
Because I would always buy more where's the where's the chart button I
Use trading view or maxi to be honest high of Solana for the last 24 hours has been
163 75 and the low has been 151.
That's a massive swing.
We didn't catch the very bottom, but we caught around 153, 152.5.
We're sitting pretty, baby.
That's how moves are made.
And if you're doing them with bigger bags and more conviction,
you could just almost double your bag in one trade.
You never want to put your entire portfolio on the line, though.
1% to 5% of the entire portfolio per trade.
Or else if you blow the trade up, you blow up your entire account,
and it's never fun rebuilding back.
I've seen it happen before.
Phoenix, how's your morning going?
It's going great.
I'm just here vibing, getting the alpha sipping some doodle juice of course and just um i didn't get into the long um i missed out on that so maybe next time because i do
enjoy leverage trading now thanks to you you really put me on to the outfit with that so maybe next time i'll get in
on a on a long um i'm not sure if like you were saying i'm not sure bitcoin will retrace or
if but definitely if it retraces then i'll put in a long and write it up again
hell yeah that's the move that's the play smart moves like that phoenix builds legacy
and um while you've been dcaing on uh bitcoin at yourself it's it's it's good to see bitcoin go up
so you've been winning in other ways as well too queen never overlook some of those small wins so
big shout out to you people that are are seeing this opportunity as a pivotal moment in crypto are going to be the ones that win.
They're aping into their bags.
They're filling their bags before, you know, big liquidity comes.
ETFs, like King of Hearts said, once gold happened.
What did you say, King?
It went up for eight years on gold, something like that?
Eight years straight it went up. Yeah, it was on positive. King? It went up for eight years on gold? Something like that? For eight years straight, it went up.
Yeah, it was on positive.
It was in the green for eight years. Obviously, there was
pullbacks and stuff. It wasn't like
gold went directly up for
eight years, but that's
what happened.
That's what happened.
It's in the history books. You can look back
on that and quote
second me.
I actually heard it from a very reliable source too.
Everybody thinks it's too late.
They're like, oh shit, Bitcoin's 100,000.
How is it possibly going to go to 150,000?
People said the same shit when that shit hit 1,000 and 20,000 and 50,000 to 150,000. People said the same shit when that shit hit 1000 and 20,000 and
50,000 and 70,000. Um, but you don't realize is this can go, it does no cap to where this can go
up. Really. Uh, if you look in like retrospect of, of the stock market and how much money is
in these total stocks. Um, I think we finally just passed like Apple recently or something like that, right?
There are still companies on the stock exchange that have more market valuation than Bitcoin,
I believe. Am I wrong about that?
I think there are still companies on the stock market, like maybe like Nvidia still has a
higher market cap than Bitcoin
I could be wrong about that I'm not sure let's check most expensive stocks or biggest market
cap stocks biggest market cap stocks let's see what we got right now King hearts 3.0 trillion and it's Nvidia actually 3.3 trillion
So crypto is coming pretty close to flipping it. Well, it's right there actually
That's just one company and compared to like a global currency
That's just gold
We're yeah, we're going
Sorry And you're talking you're thinking that's just one company. I mean, I know it's a huge company such as gold. Yep, we're going. Sorry?
And you're thinking that's just one company.
I mean, I know it's a huge company. They sell the chips.
They're like, you know,
they kind of got that industry unlocked.
But this is a decentralized currency,
really the only decentralized currency.
And it's like digital gold.
So, you know, compare that to just one company.
And we still didn't even reach that market cap.. So, you know, compare that to just one company. And we still didn't even reach that market cap.
Realistically, you know, I could see like 120, 130,000 this cycle.
I don't know.
But that's just my guess in my mind.
I'm not going to like sell.
150 is program, bro.
150 is program.
But no, I absolutely appreciate you, King Arts.
Phoenix Crypto. He, jessica dr soli
rehab uh xc uh isaac everybody that shows up he knows uh on a daily basis guys i'm going to be
putting out a tweet later today we're launching something special officially on june 15th get
your crypto get your credit cards get your caffeine get your cannabis
get everything ready because we're gonna be helping people make more money through X whether
your brand entrepreneur or creator we're only offering it to 50 people so getting in early it
really does matter we have a few people already committed which is really exciting everything is live now the site is live as well to payments are through
stripes so it's a secure checkout you can use Apple pay or Google pay whatever
you prefer but we will have crypto options coming by June 15th and
basically people will get an opportunity to learn strategies how I manage and how I grow my X account
I'll be doing videos. I'll be doing an exclusive Twitter group here on X
We're all gonna engage with the content
So I'm gonna personally engage with people that are posting and trying to get their impressions and their views up and
We're all gonna help each other here so it's going to be pretty exciting
guys it's only 200 bucks USD make an investment in yourself people like King of Hearts and Phoenix
they can attest for me you know the strategy definitely works they're definitely living
social proof of it there's so many many other people here that have grown their profile their
business their brand their influence by being here in the space with Doodle Genics, learning the strategies.
I've given a lot of weight for free, but I got a real system that people will value and appreciate.
So show up June 15th. It's going to be a space reminder that goes up later on today.
And I will be also actually, do I got the space reminder set up?
I got it fucking set up.
Holy shit, let's fucking post it.
Boom, I'm posting it for you guys.
Fuck it.
Fuck it, why not?
Retweet it, guys.
I'm doing some giveaways on it.
The very first people generally usually win the giveaways.
I'm just saying.
Set the reminder for
it. June 15th, it's going to be a Sunday. I'm sure that everybody has the day off or has some time
to stop in for at least 15 minutes and just build with us. That's all I got to say. Build with us.
So I haven't pinned anything up to the top. I'll pin this one tweet up to the top. If you guys could kindly share it,
set the pinned tweet reminder for it.
And that's pretty much it.
Isaac, what's up?
Or Isa, what's up?
Isha, what's up?
GMG.
What up, my guy?
Very, very nice.
Very low, just please. We love your space.
One of the best I've been on.
We love the vibes you are giving to people.
I myself am a new being in the people's space,
just joining in.
Right now, I'm bullish on whatever you are giving.
Very bullish.
People of your lives.
Thank you, brother.
Well, if you support this space,
do me a favor and a solid go up there,
set a reminder.
It really does help the algorithm.
We got 30 people here in this space.
If we all go and engage with it,
if we all set the reminder,
it will jumpstart people getting involved getting started with us
We're gonna take people here to the top
I know an extra 200 to two thousand dollars USD a month could definitely help some people fund their dreams
Visit some of these IRL events and conferences sweep the floor ape into tokens
I've seen a lot of people do it and i want to help many more people
get involved and you know profit from this stuff so if that's you if that's something that you want
to do for your brand your business or even just do for yourself personally get involved june 15th
is the official launch day if you don't have the funds that's cool as well too i'm sure maybe in the future we'll have
another opportunity uh but the least you can do is just share it retweet it hit the reminder let
people know about the service let people know about the app and what we're trying to accomplish
here today so i appreciate each and every one of you shout out to phoenix crypto shout out to king
of hearts shout out to everybody that was a part of this awesome space, guys.
We'll see you guys tomorrow morning.
FOMO FM.
Set the reminders.
Get in early.
And we'll have a wonderful Wednesday together.
Have a terrific Taco Tuesday.
And turn up, baby.
We out.
