Yo yo yo what up what up good morning good morning GMDM Friday oh baby Friday Friday
Friday March 21st 2025 look at that another beautiful day to have a beautiful day. I got my co-host
In the house. Oh, he's got the shirt on
Mando good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, man. Oh, I'm jealous. Fuckers. I swear to God man
This guy's hosting outside in the sunshine. I can already tell
Mando good morning guys doing today
I'm doing fantastic Yeah back in Portugal Good morning guys, how are you doing today?
Yeah, I'm back in Portugal.
Like I'm so tired of like not having any sunshine in the morning.
I woke up this morning, the first thing I told Vanessa, I was like, babe, I can't wait to just wake up to the sun, like smashing my face.
I think Tyler, you'll relate.
It was spring here yesterday.
It was t-shirt weather, 18 degrees Celsius, like 70s.
And tomorrow's, tonight's gonna be negative 10, or it's like negative seven right now.
So it's like the market, you know what I mean?
Like Bitcoin was 87k and I was like an 82k guy or some shit.
Same things going on in Montreal. I'm getting I'm getting rugged
and you know, and every every everywhere I go Tyler Tyler
Tyler did it. Good morning. Hey doing today.
Doing great. Can't wait for the show. We got two mega guests
coming on two big ones. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Today's gonna
be today's gonna be a fun show. So let's get right into that. Today on the show,
I already see a bunch of Pudgy Penguins and a bunch of Taproot Wizards in the audience. Love
to see that. Where my Pengu's at. Come on. Come on. We're gonna do market report. Then we're gonna go
quickly over Tyler's topics. I'm assuming we're not gonna have too much time to go too deep,
but we'll see what the top headlines are for the day Then we'll do taproot wizards a wizard
Udi Wizardheimer is gonna be joining us on the show
We'll talk we'll talk all things taproot wizard, but also I've got we've got Tyler and I've got some questions for him
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runes there's no saving but we'll talk about that with Udi and then followed by
Luca again he was hoping the news would drop yesterday so he could talk to about it on the show yesterday
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Mando, you tell me what's next.
Who is the man back of daddy of the land?
Can you dig it gm everyone we are back um are we and well we're definitely just where we were
uh which is i know which i've been kind of saying uh for a little bit now just don't uh
Just don't, just play the long-term game.
Feels as though we could be here for a little bit of time,
I think, before Macro sorts itself out
and then people work out if they're ready
to buy altcoins again and all the degen stuff.
It's definitely, it's definitely,
it's zoom out sort of market.
Don't get too bearish, I would say, as well.
At least at this level, everything's down so much.
I think it's difficult to paint an extremely bearish picture for anything. Um, and, uh, I think Bitcoin still looks like the one that's going to hold up
the best if I'm honest, like it just, it still hasn't really moved, right?
for a while now. Very low volatility in my opinion.
So I think, I think we could be here for the weekend.
It feels as though Bic one, like maybe as a little retest to see if that 78k was really
You had Alpha Hayes saying yesterday he's flip bullish thinks that 78, 77k level was
Um, but I would be unsurprised if we, if we go like, right, was that really the bottom
when we test it and we probably test it in a bunch of alts too.
And then, and then you have a much stronger test of whether that really was the bottom. So Bitcoin dominance has gone slightly higher
again, it's back up to like 62k again today. Interestingly, like DMB has probably been the
strongest and there continues to be a lot of DJ activity going on there.
Like whenever I do the man in minutes, it's always BNB coins at the moment.
And I would say that 99% of them have the same narrative.
CZ or someone related to Binance has in some way promoted or done a or bought one of them
or like there's a wallet.
They literally are just the same pitch for every coin.
CZ bought is that that is that what's going on?
There's one today which is you know, CZ's wife.
He was related to a coin.
I think it was called Bob.
Oh, 40 million. Oh, I saw. It's a 40 million.
But there's a lot of like, we're gonna run it,
but this is like Bob, they've pitched as like the fog
of BNB and somehow like someone related to Binance
has bought them, which is important
because Binance has been listing some of these coins.
So there is like, there's not just like a reason why
that happens, like they do This whole Binance Alpha thing,
they've really switched towards being BNB coins recently. So they listed Mubarak,
which is like that Mubarak meme, and they've listed Tess. They list tons of BNB memes. It feels as
though low-key, I don't want to say crime season,
but there's definitely an insider season going on
BNB meme gets BNB alpha, gets listed, pumps,
and then we do the same next week.
That's kind of what's happening.
If you look at BNBB and interestingly Tron as well, these are the two
coins which are, I mean Tron is basically where it was in December. It's just gone sideways in a very
narrow channel and BNB is similarly kind of where it was last March. So it's just going sideways.
So in a market where a lot of our L1s are going down,
those two are holding up quite well.
So if you're going to DJ,
it feels as though Tron and BNB are where that's happening.
Yesterday, there was some integration that Tron is obviously going to
be involved with Pumpfun,
helping them to their native deck.
So we're gonna see Pumpfun basically migrate to Tron,
I think, but the rest of the market, yeah,
just feels a little bit sluggish, I would say today.
If Solana, all the other canal ones are a little bit, a little bit heavy.
Yeah, it's, uh, it's just, again, we're back in another episode of the chop.
And there was, there was like, again, there was rumors yesterday of this capital gains
I think this is going to be the rumor for the next two years.
Just it's going to continue to be with us.
I would say there's a very low chance of this going through very low.
Um, I don't know if there's a polymarket for it or, I know there's not a
distance for it or a myriad, sorry, but, um, we should open one.
But the thing is it's such a hard thing to resolve.
Yeah. And it could resolve.
It could resolve for ages.
Then it's gotta go to Congress.
It's like the whole resolution.
And they've only got very, very narrow, very narrow
majorities in both of those.
And I would say that in a time where they are pointing
to austerity, the concept that
crypto bros are going to get a tax break, it's not a populist move.
Like, this is kind of what I think you should be thinking about here.
So when you see headlines about this, be very wary that Trump can't just do this.
It's got to go to Congress and Senate.
And I think someone like this would just would not
have the votes to pass in my opinion.
It can't just happen, right?
But yeah, yesterday was just the Intel page, right?
Like during the show just came, comes down
and goes Intel breaking news, we're gonna fucking
announce your percent tax.
And we all scrambled to even find where Trump spoke.
You know, even like even Tyler,
now we're looking everywhere, Mendo, at the end of the show.
Like, yo, where is this thing?
And it ended up being like a pre-recorded.
Two minutes, two minutes.
Oh, the mountains, two minutes, 46, two hour and,
that was a whole other conversation though. I think a lot of
people reacted to that one. But anyways, all right, Mando, looks like the market is pretty
straightforward. You said it was a big macro week. We got through FRMC. Was there any other
things to pay attention to for the rest of the month or are we kind of close clear? What
is there to pay attention to?
This week we had quite a lot.
So we had the Bank of Japan and we had the Bank of England, both held rates exactly the
same and then you had the Fed.
Next week I'd need to check.
I actually don't think the last week of the year, I think we'll probably get PCE inflation
I think normally in the last week of the month.
Let me, I can bring it up.
But yeah, it probably will be quieter, I reckon, next week.
But you know, maybe there's something that derails us.
It seems like a strange one.
So next week we have, yeah, we have PC inflation on Friday, and we have GDP growth on Thursday. So those are, I mean, a Friday
one will be probably quite big. But I don't think there's anything really there that's
absolutely crazy for sure.
Something that's up for an interesting period here. So there's no April FOMC, right? So
it's like, it's early May, May 6th, May 7th, I believe.
So somewhat smooth sailing,
but I guess we've got the tariffs on April 2nd.
That's probably the next major event.
Like, is it actually gonna go through?
Is it gonna be fully retaliatory?
I think that's probably the next big item on the radar.
Yeah, I would agree with that.
With this administration. Yeah. All right, well, we'll see where the next big item on the radar. But with this administration.
All right, well, we'll see when the next surprise is.
But please, no more breaking news for the sake
of this industry and our mental health.
Not that we believe them all.
Even though I remember Tyler yesterday, I was like,
I'm not going to retweet that.
I don't think it's too legit.
But please, I think my tweet did numbers yesterday, but it's just a little bit like, angry.
And then I ended up asking Sandra, I was like, you know, this reel is like, honestly, like, I don't, he was like, it's actually wild because people reporting on news that even the White House doesn't know about, you know what I mean?
So it's, I think everybody needs to take a step back and stop making everything about headlines. I think Bats had a good comment back to what I was talking about.
It was like, you know, it's kind of become annoying that we're only reacting to like
what Trump is going to say or will say or will do.
Like since when is the entire market of crypto dependent on this?
And shouldn't like we've kind of won that battle already.
Like that's what we were talking about with the Solana ad earlier this week, right guys?
Like we've already won the battle that we made inside the White House.
Like you know, you have Bo Heinz of everything.
You have David Sacks of everything, you have
David Sachs, Trump is talking about Bitcoin every single chance he has a chance. Did you guys see Eric Trump is now the advisor of MetaPlanet? I think it goes everywhere. We don't need to
keep pushing that. I think it points to the idea that people are looking for the catalyst though.
And what you realize in this period, you just have to accept that the next major catalyst is going to be stablecoin regulation. Trump has gone on record and said that he wants
that by August. Okay. August. It's true. It's true. He did say that. And after that, we would look to
get RWA regulation. Maybe we'll see some more details about like different, like not, not the Bitcoin
reserve, but maybe broader crypto reserve.
Interestingly, yesterday they said that mining Bitcoin mining is, is, um, is
Maybe they'll get involved in that as I continue to think.
Like I think you're right.
I think that's the best call you've made here.
Like that the government was probably going to start mining Bitcoin.
Yeah. And then you're really kind of just waiting on.
So then your catalyst from Washington, I think.
I don't know if stablecoin regulation really takes it that much higher.
Like, yeah, you probably have banks who could hold it a little bit more and do different things.
But I don't know if it's like absolutely massive. I think the RWA regulation is much bigger.
So I think if I were to think about, let's say the top five catalysts that could happen,
right, realistic ones. Yeah, break it down for us.
I would say it's a it's obviously now you get five, you can get it's much easier for corporates, particularly in the US to own crypto.
I would say ideally some headline about one of maybe the top 20 corporations in the S&P
or in the NASDAQ, aside from Tesla, buying crypto for their treasury.
That would be very, very bullish because then you have a state where most of the people
buying crypto at the moment are people raising money like Sailor is.
But if you had one of these big tech companies or a company with a lot of cash decide, hey,
we want to buy some Bitcoin, you can potentially buy billions of Bitcoin quite quickly.
So I think there's that. I would guess it would be more headlines around
sovereign wealth funds. The US one, I actually think is a bit of a red herring. I still don't
know how that thing is going to be financed. But I think if you heard Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia
or Saudi Arabia, or maybe the broader UAE, or Qatar.
There was a lot of talk about Qatar in the past.
Has come in and bought a few billion, few hundred million.
That would be a bullish thing.
As would, and then it's around China really.
Does China decide to embrace crypto a little bit more? Maybe
that's more like soft like you see a softening of their policies on mainland China rather
than just Hong Kong. Maybe that's maybe that's a bit much, but maybe they do something like
that. There's some stuff about that South Korea, South Korea might now allow Bitcoin ETFs.
Obviously South Korea is probably in the top three for crypto.
That would be a big headline if they are crypto ETFs, which is likely, I think at this stage.
I mean, that is a big catalyst, right?
Like when you think about it, if you told me this a few years ago or anybody in this
industry, they're like, holy shit, what?
And it's funny, Tyler, that you sent us this DeFi llama tweet about stablecoins.
And then you have Matt Hogan.
I was just like searching stablecoins on the X and it's the first way it comes out half
I can't stop thinking about this quote from US Secretary of Treasury Scott Besson.
We are going to keep the US the dominant reserve currency in the world and we will use stable coins for that. It goes, however big you
think stablecoin AUM will get, you're probably thinking too small. So the question becomes,
what does the rest of the crypto market look like if stablecoin AUM is multiple trillions? And
we've seen that before. That global liquidity M2, I think 1% of stablecoins, and 1% is very small.
Remember that Chris Bernski tweet like 99% to go.
Obviously, it's probably not going to go there, but like 10% doesn't seem crazy, right?
So you could argue that that supply is going to 10x and what happens to the rest of crypto.
Tyler, it looks like you have some thoughts on this and then we'll get to the topics.
No, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the impact of the stablecoin growth.
I think it's clearly going up and to the right. I want to say I think it has to be net positive for the top crypto majors. But at the same time, like that's like a gradual thing. I don't think any of these are like the catalyst that's going to make Bitcoin back to 100k. So like this week, right? Stablecoins are up 2.3 billion.
They're up 5 billion on the month.
So I don't have my finger on the pulse of exactly what's happening.
What's, what's driving all that where it's all coming from, but it is, it's one of
the more intriguing storylines to watch.
I could, it's happening and we're going to have,
we're going to see huge orders of magnitude increases over the years.
But if he's BT search chart is insane.
Was this thing more 70% or something guys?
Like it is just nonstop is even remember this dip here.
People were calling for like BTC Dom top here and Thorin is just non-stop is even remember this dip here people are calling for like BTC Dom
Top here and Thorne is just like just skyrocketed again
There is no top. I love you. Oh, man, do you mute it? I think you're trying to do something, right?
Yeah, it's interesting that if I know we feel like we've been in a
Been having a bad time and this isn't really a conversation for all coins
Bitcoin is still the best performing asset since Trump was elected. The best performing
major asset since Trump was elected. It's beating US stocks, bonds. I don't know about
China stocks now because I know they're up like 40 or 50 percent this year but it's them and China stocks which is still up the most since Trump was elected.
This whole Trump trade where you bought like Tesla, Trump media, all of that sort of stuff,
maybe like the energy firms, that has really reversed.
Like the basket of Trump trades has been a lot of analysis on it.
And it's like, it's got decimated since the election.
Yeah, it looks like Ethereum.
But there's a number of firms like that. So people in TradFi think that Bitcoin is
outperforming just to let them know. Like the conversation in TradFi is Bitcoin is doing
better than the rest of the market. That it's more of a safe haven asset. They're not saying,
oh my God, it's been some horrific stuff because they're not paying things to old coins. Yeah. So just keep that in mind that like there's been a lot of different things and
and yeah people people think bitcoin's like doing well. Yeah that's wild well love to see that.
That's a good that's a nice narrative shift. I thought Tyler let's run through your topics
quickly but I see Udi speaking of Bitcoin
See you say Bitcoin you whispered Bitcoin and then he shows up the wizard
Shows up. I see him in this too. So Tyler let's just I guess run down the topics quickly and then we'll go straight to
30 on FOMO hour calls the kids can't miss.
Bring it back to the bears.
Yeah, folks, CryptoMajor's a bit red here on the day.
After a bit of a letdown from Trump's appearance at DAS
yesterday, that appearance was just a pre-recorded message,
reaffirming previous talking points
and saying he wants America to become an undisputed Bitcoin
So good message, but we'd heard before markets were overhyped
as we tend to do in other headlines.
Canary Labs filed for a Pingu ETF including the Pingu meme coin
I was so excited to say it.
We're going to be talking to Luca about it in a few minutes here.
The SEC, as Mando alluded to, they shared that crypto mining,
specifically proof of work, does not violate securities laws. Big win for Bitcoin, Doge and other blockchains. We saw Biotech firm, Atai, they're the latest public company to announce Bitcoin treasury. $5 million in Bitcoin they picked up. The Ton Foundation said that a group of VCs, including Sequoia and a few others have now invested over $400 million
So the money pouring into Ton.
We mentioned stablecoins are up quite a bit.
The Orca token was a surprise winner.
It jumped 140% after being listed on Upbit yesterday.
We saw Uranium Digital, folks.
They raised $6.1 million to bring
Uranium futures and spot trading on chain.
That's a nice lot. So you're going to be able to trade Uran futures and spot trading on chain. Nice a lot of so you're gonna be able to trade uranium
24 seven here soon. My people are happy. A couple pieces of
breaking news or not breaking, but hired Eric Trump as an
advisor that came out last night. Interesting headline
there. And then this morning right before the show, sailor
has reportedly upped his strife sale from $500 million to $720.
So even more capital coming into his Bitcoin pouches here in token airdrop in protocol news.
Pump fun, one of the biggest stories of the day. They introduced pump swap to native decks,
sharing that immediately all pump coins that migrate will go directly to pump swap with
instant migration, zero fees, more liquidity and potentially creator rev sharing.
MoonPay landed a new $200 million revolving credit line
from Galaxy, shout out to them.
Wayfinder, the Kaido effect folks,
they've seen a hundred thousand new wallets activated.
Kaido activation, that Kaido activation was Monday.
A hundred thousand new wallets in a week.
That's pretty big success.
And then Walrus, big news over on Sui,
three major announcements.
Their main net launch is March 27th.
They introduced their wall tokenomics
and they also shared that they raised $140 million
to scale programmable storage on Sui,
led by Standard Crypto and A16Z.
So some big VCs in there.
Rounding this out, and AI Crypto virtuals and be able to new virtual partners network
It's a council to help new founders through their launch journey
Mentify announced an AI powered AI powered trading within their marketplace and
Yeah, that's pretty much the headlines from today. Oh
Folks you gotta get your Bitcoin in those wallets by Monday If you want to be eligible to go ahead and mint on Tuesday,
I'm sure we'll hear more from Udi on that here in a few minutes.
You know, the last time I heard the term entanglement was during the whole Jada
Pinkett Smith, Will Smith thing.
When she said she was having an entanglement with her son's friend or some shit.
Right. Isn't that where the term comes from? I mean let's bring him up on here.
Uri! How you doing? You guys have like the best GM, you know, the Israelis like Bocahtov. Like it
sounds so good, you know? We say Jimyow. Jimyow, yeah. I leave that for the fairies of Twitter.
That's a little bit, you know, I like that.
Yo, Udi, let me ask you something.
The entanglement stuff, you know, it's, look, some people are kind of more in the LA vibes
and they're into Jada Smith, I guess.
It's also a term in quantum mechanics though.
That too. Sorry, right. So that too.
So I'm assuming half of CT went towards where I went
and the other half went towards quantum.
Probably like 70% went to where you went.
Tyler, I love those topics though,
but we'll have to go back on Monday on the pump fun
because there's some beef on the timeline.
I saw some of the radium collaborators. That's rare. That's what you did. They were not. Yeah, exactly. They were
not too happy about about those announcements back to back. But that's there's definitely
a lot of movement on that front. Quickly, the code today. So the chance you know, I
wish you know, robot loot boxes took Bitcoin or Ordinals. But for now, it's only Ethereum
But the code today is wizard though. So we gave you guys the code we named it after you wizard
So if you go to rafflebot.xyz
rafflebot.xyz every Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday
We pick someone from the audience live and we roll and you can win today
You have 15% chances or 13 13% chances of winning Pudgy Penguin. So nice. That's not yeah, it's not bad
It's a quick little you know, 10 10 15 grand, right?
So you absolutely love to see that was actually worth never mind $25,000. So it says pretty good
Anyways, Udi man, so excited to have you back on the show. I feel like every time there's something big going on
Always texting. I'm like you gotta get you on the show to talk all things top with lizards
Uh, my first question to you Udi is what the hell is happening with my pups?
What the puppets, Odinels?
What's happening with our runes, Udi?
I told you not to buy runes, man.
I told you not to buy runes.
You wanted to buy the runes. I cannot help there. I'm not, I can't help you. I told you not to buy runes. You wanted to buy the runes.
I cannot help there. I'm sorry. Yeah. It wasn't the name, right? Like we're literally in runes now.
Yeah. Yeah. It was the name. Runes were, you know, we tried. But you, well, you guys are,
you've re-seized it. So you're investing in Odin fun. Tell us about that. Odin fun. If you want to
try runes, then yeah, the place to do that is an Odin fun because
what they did is they basically took all of the bad things about runes and threw them
away. That's true. And they ended up with a platform that's really like, it's really
cool. It's fast. It's easy to use. And you can use Bitcoin. You don't have to trade against Sol and watch your
overall Sol balance go down. You can trade it with Bitcoin. Personally, I love that part.
So yeah, it's a pretty cool platform for trading and they're all new, like it's a launchpad,
so they're all new runes. You don't have to carry your baggage
of old bad rune investments in there.
So yeah, I wouldn't find it's pretty cool.
So we're definitely never seeing our pups listed
So there goes that question.
You know, he's never been-
Your basket of old runes, God damn it.
All right, well Udi, listen,
we're not here to talk runes and stuff though.
We did have a few questions on the ecosystem as a whole
I know Tyler's got some questions for you, but quickly like, you know, I think I don't think you need any introductions
You know Udi, co-founder of Tappered Wizards. We love the wizards. Honestly
I think you guys are one of the projects that are really doing some great stuff and you're literally trying to change bitcoin
So kind of want to ask you first like what's the latest here? We know Tyler quickly mentioned your mint
happening at the moment to get a wizard.
So why don't you take us to the latest news
and then maybe we can ask you some more questions
Yeah, so after two years of sitting on those
tapered wizards and people begging us to,
well, I mean, we always joke that nobody wants
a tapered wizard, but the truth is people have been asking us for two years to let go of them already. So
we're finally doing that. And there's been, you know, there's the thing about this collection,
unlike most kind of popular NFP, PSP collections, this one is,000 pieces as opposed to 10,000. There's really not that many of them.
So we just can't fit everyone in.
So we had a couple of ways to get into the whitelist.
One way was the so-called cat entanglement.
That is actually closed now.
do it yet, you can't do that anymore. It meant if you hold two cats, two quantum cats, you
could use them in order to get a spot with a discount into the Top of Wizards. Then on,
I believe it was on Monday, no, on Wednesday, two days ago, we announced the sort of wizard school whitelist, which
is all the awesome guys that have been taking showers over the years.
You've seen them on the timeline.
They've had a bunch of awesome videos last week about how they're going to earn 0.2
Bitcoin to pay for them in price.
There are literally thousands of those too.
So we picked the best of the best
and put them on the whitelist as well.
So at this stage, the whitelist is closed.
People who are on the whitelist,
Tyler mentioned that before,
they absolutely have to go and fund their wallets
and connect them to the website by Monday, noon Eastern.
Because if they don't, we have this long waiting list
of other people that want in.
If they don't do that by then,
we're gonna have to remove them from the whitelist
So you absolutely have to load your wallet by Monday.
After that's all said and done,
the mint for the whitelist is on Tuesday.
And after that's all said and done,
we're also gonna to have a small
public portion that will go to a Dutch auction. That one I'm really excited about because it's the first time in Oranol that we're doing something really cool. Anyone can connect to the Mint
website for the auction public part, can connect to the mid website with phantom wallet.
So you don't need to have an Ornoles wallet.
You can connect with phantom wallet.
Um, and if you win, you'll get the wizard straight to your phantom wallet
on Bitcoin on Ornoles. It's not bridge, just not anything like that.
Phantom has Ornoles support for this.
So you can pay with soul that you already have with the Phantom wallet you already have
and you get the wizard straight through wallet.
So I'm really happy about that.
That's the first time anyone's done it.
Wow, wait, that's actually really cool.
Cause the main hurdle has always been,
I mean, I love XFIRST by the way,
there's some great wallets on there.
I never really had issues,
you just make it a little bit simpler.
Yeah, so you know, like our core community, the reason we did it like this is our core
community, the ones who've been entangling cats and the ones who've been like doing
the white distance, the quest and the showers and all this stuff, they have,
have X-verse they, they're good to go.
But for everyone else who's not been part of the Ornels ecosystem and
wants to kind of get a taste, that's like the perfect way to onboard for the first time.
I think there's a lot of people who are kind of like,
yeah, I really want to type a wizard,
but how do I, like, what do I do?
So that's a really easy way to get in for people who want it.
I actually didn't realize that.
I think you're unlocking a bigger audience for sure.
I guess maybe stepping back for a minute,
Tempered Wizards have been in the works for quite some time.
Right, so like maybe tell us a little bit about that.
Like why was the journey so long?
Like did it actually just take this long
to develop everything and get it in the readiness
Tell us a little bit about the journey.
Yeah, so it's actually been longer than most people even think.
Wait, but we're in the bear market.
It's like the last bear market.
It's so funny to me when Bitcoin is like 80k and people call it a bear market, but like, yeah, sure, I'll take it.
It just means that people don't hold Bitcoin, you know, that's the...
Yeah, nobody owns Bitcoin. So we, we inscribed the collection, so put the JPEGs on
chain forever on Bitcoin in February, 2023. So just over two
years ago, but we started working on this project even
earlier than that. We started working on this around summer
2022, maybe even a little before that.
Before Orninal existed, or at least before we knew that Orninal was in development.
The reason for that was if you think back to the previous bull cycle, you might remember that like Bitcoin did not have the same kind of brand identity that it has today.
We joke now that a lot of people just don't encrypt, don't have Bitcoin in their portfolio.
But back then it really was, it was like people would have been ashamed in CT to say that they own Bitcoin.
It was considered like a pit rock, doesn't do anything, never goes up.
And you cannot do anything with it. And it's only for boomers and maxis and whatever. It had like a
real branding problem at the time. And we wanted to start the type of Wizards collection at the time
in order to kind of improve that a little bit and create a community for people who maybe are some
maybe some of them are people who have been in Bitcoin for a while or maybe newer to it.
But what they see on Twitter is just those kind of laser IMAXs
and they can't be part of that because it's terrible.
So we wanted to give another way for people to identify with Bitcoin.
That was kind of the point of Tapu Wizards early on. We thought it might
be like a collection for Bitcoiners on Ethereum because there was no good way to do it on Bitcoin.
But that kind of never fully clicked for us. So we had the artwork ready. We had a lot of the
story ready. And then when Ornil showed up, we were like, OK,
this is actually the perfect platform for this.
And that's why we kicked this.
We got this going very, very quickly,
I think, by inscription 600.
The 600th image on Jane is a tougher wizard already.
So yeah, it was pretty quick. And then, you know, the entire collection was already ready by the end of that month
and was already on chain.
But we always, you know, people have been asking us to finally, like, distribute and mint those.
But, like, we kept telling people that this is going to be something that takes a while.
And one of the reasons for it was,
I see this as something that has a chance
to become a really kind of long-term
staple of Bitcoin culture.
And for that, you want to get the right people in.
The right people are the ones who will stick with you
And not necessarily the ones who will mint
at the peak of the hype or whatever
it is. So even though, you know, we could have sold them for like, I don't know,
fucking one, two VTC at the peak of the one knows hype and, and,
and make a bag and fuck off.
But I think that would have been bad for the collection.
So waiting has been like something we always knew and always said,
we're going to do for a long time.
And we have this community. I mean, Waiting has been like something we always knew and always said we're going to do for a long time. Yeah.
We have this community. I mean, it's obviously never happened before that someone launched an NFT collection and did not distribute it for two years.
That never happened. So I'm really excited to see how that plays out.
I knew a few people that took money and never launched as a whole.
But they didn't try to build it.
They didn't try to actually. But let me ask you something.
So Bongo here, why is this MF or on my timeline getting just punched for wearing a wizard?
Like what was the latest round?
So what was the latest challenge?
Because I followed along the wizard showers and everything.
That was great by the shot to you for making people on CT actually take showers.
Finally, um, it fired, but why, why is bongo out there just getting punched in the,
So our last quest, um, over the previous week was to, uh, make videos where people, you know, wear a wizard costume
and come up with ways to earn the mint price of 0.2.
So there's been a lot of people with original ideas.
Bongo just had people pay him to punch him, which is a great idea.
Yeah, that's a great business. That's a great idea. Yeah, that's a great business.
He's a strong guy, though.
He came up to me in Paris.
I was like, God damn, he's strong.
She's dressed as a wizard.
Everybody out there just as wizards.
It's one of my takeaways.
I had folks coming up to me
and talking about Tepid Wizards.
They weren't really super on my radar yet at that time.
I was a little bit more focused on Ethereum.
And those people are still here, sticking around.
So they stuck with it for two years.
It's really some of the most amazing people
I've met in crypto, honestly.
And they're creative, too, and they want to,
and they want to see Bitcoin, you know, on the page, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of these videos.
There's so many. I remember watching them.
Thousands of videos of like 24 hours.
So we had like 20 people like running through those.
I thought nobody wanted a wizard.
Yeah, I thought so too, but they keep surprising me.
2,121, a bunch of them are honoraries.
Some of the honoraries have not been inscribed yet,
but there's like a few reserved for future honoraries.
The main collection is 2,085. Did for future honoraries. The main collection is 2085
Did I hear honoraries? Yeah
Yeah, no, you promised me something two years ago now
All promises all promises of the temple wizards project either have been kept or will be kept that promises made
I think we've shown that it might take us two years, but when we say we're going to
I think we've I think we've shown that
do something, we're eventually doing it.
You're from Bangor events.
I was just with Far in Paris a couple of months ago catching up.
Your events are pretty awesome.
Well, the events in Paris was wild.
I mean, honestly, to be perfectly honest, personally, I had very little to do with it.
We have just an amazing team.
And they killed it for the Paris event.
It was like, it was what you had like, you had like this entrance where I don't just show up to the next event.
I don't even want to, I don't even want to give people ideas.
Just next time, just show up.
I know it was the same night as Wrecked and was like, fuck. It's always like that right?
So torn. I got to support Ovi, Mando, the Rekt fam at the same time. I got far time.
Like yo we're throwing a banger. You got to pull up. I'm like, god damn it. But it's awesome.
Uri, look we don't have to keep you much longer.
Honestly, one question for you is like, Upcat, how's that going?
Because on top of like, I think behind the scenes, that's one thing I've always talked about
when I talk with you guys, that you guys are actually trying to scale Bitcoin.
Like, actually, it's not like you're trying to break Bitcoin.
It's like functionality too.
So, you know, my co-founder, Eric Wol, published a thread about this a couple weeks
We had a really interesting kind of visit to Hong Kong recently where we got to meet
a lot of the kind of movers and shakers in the mining industry over there and a bunch
Miners are like a very important component
in getting OpCat to work. It was a very good week because we had a lot of interest from these guys.
It's like OpCat is like this kind of lobbying effort almost like a political lobbying thing
because we have you know we have this stuff that we were developing internally but in order for all
this to work the the OpCat upgrade has to happen. And that's kind of almost
a lobbying effort. So the visit to Hong Kong has been very
promising, there's going to be I think it should be announced
very soon. There's going to be like a big event, a public event
in Hong Kong next. Think about Upcat. We'll have more detail
on that very soon. It's going to be like, imminently.
And yeah, that's going to be great. I think in Vegas, there's going to be probably some
progress on that too. And on the developer front, on the kind of Bitcoin protocol developer
front, one of the amazing things that have happened in the last 12 months is, you know,
UpCAD and really just the idea of soft forking or upgrading Bitcoin has been seen as a joke for so long.
When we first came up with this a year ago, we were laughed out of the room basically.
People said like, these clowns think they can upgrade Bitcoin. the fuck they think they are. Basically, the
entire conversation of Bitcoin protocol developers around the clock 24 seven is around how to
make the next upgrade happen. Like it is literally in consensus now that Bitcoin needs to upgrade
one way or another. So the fact that this changed this much in 12 months is like a huge, you know, it's really an achievement
by the community of, you know, one cats and tougher wolves that has been like on this
and show, you know, shown that they want this for so long that the people can just cannot
ignore this anymore. This is part of what the quests are so good for. When you see them
flood the timeline, you can't ignore this, you know? No.
You just can't. You might not like it, but you cannot ignore it. And it's been amazing, really.
This community is literally making things happen.
Love that. Well, congratulations, Uri. You know, love what you guys are doing.
We're all big fans. Always going to support you guys. So, really excited.
Yeah, i'm good on the shower side personally speaking, you know
The hack is just to live with a woman right then you definitely can't not shower, right? So
Uh, so we we make sure that we shower anyways, oody dude best of luck for the future of type of wizards
Thank you. Can't wait to see what's next and congrats on everything man. Thank you for coming. That was a lot of fun
Thanks. Good luck luck man. Peace brother. Alright, alright. Well that was fun. Love Udi, love having him on. We're just gonna
keep it rolling right up to the next guest. We got Luca Nets in the house. Pew pew pew
pew. What up Luca? Good morning. Sup guys, how you doing? Long time no speak. Yeah, man
though it's been a couple months. Oh man, oh man. Luca, man, it's been a couple of months. Oh, man.
Luca, dude, listen, some big news came out right after you guys left the stage yesterday.
You know, we got the Canary.
The Canary ETFs were filed yesterday, but not just for Pengu.
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I think it's a it's a huge deal for the space.
Tyler's got a bunch of questions for you.
He's a resident Penguin expert in the house.
But first, Luca, how do you feel after the news yesterday?
And why don't you break it down for us, you know, why it's so important for the
Pudgy Penguins, but also for the industry?
Well, I tried to time it yesterday for you, so I apologize.
But better late than never.
I think from our perspective about like two months ago, I kind of told our Web3 team that
like this is the place where I want us to focus.
And why I want us to focus there is because I think the pudgy penguin story and the assets
within our ecosystem are really easily digestible to the normal,
traditional finance type of person.
And now that these rails are kind of opening up,
it seems like this is a direction
that we really wanna go in.
And so from our perspective,
we're working really hard to not only push this through,
but I think there's a couple other things here
that you'll see in the coming months
in terms of what we're doing on the institutional side to ultimately open up the rails for people to participate within the ecosystem.
Again, I think when you look at these type of tokens specifically, I think right now it's just Doge and Bonk alongside Pengu in this like competitive category that has ETF filings.
I think from our perspective,
we just feel like we have a really competitive base
to kind of make to people in regards to what it looks like
to ultimately participate in the Pudgy Penguin ecosystem.
But I think it's something
that's really easily understandable for them.
So I think it's a cool moment, one that I think, uh, I think it's, it's a cool moment.
One that I think is pretty historic because of the NFT integration and
understanding that like the pudgy penguin ecosystem is both Pengu and the NFTs
and kind of opening up those rails for that.
But I've been in, uh, I've been in DC twice over the last five weeks and, uh,
we've got a lot more things cooking here.
So I am curious on that note, did you have input into like the split of it's going to be X percent?
Pingu token in the ETF is going to be Y percent NFT. What was that process like to kind of make sure both assets got bundled into the product?
Yeah, I think you got to understand, like, when it comes down to inflows, you know, inflows,
a million dollars of inflows on NFTs are way more impactful than a million dollar in inflows
on a liquid token. And so it's weighted a lot more for the token than it is the NFT.
But I think the weight is probably similar in the sense of like the liquidity and ultimately
what moves the needle based on the percentage of inflows and based on our understanding, I think like a million
dollars on the NFT floor probably does the same thing that like five or $6 million does
on the token based on just like me staring at it and using it for the last couple of
Yeah, that makes sense. I'm curious, a two-part question,
how hard was it to pull this off to get here?
And then I'm also curious part two,
like what does the approval process look like?
And like how much is the team involved in that
and like what the future here looks like?
Yeah, so I think the beauty of us
is like we have these relationships.
And so there's a lot of doors that are already kind of opened
And so I think in terms of how hard it was,
it actually wasn't necessarily that hard
in terms of like, the process is rigorous
and obviously we're not the ones filing it.
So that's definitely, you know,
Canary has a brunt of the way.
I think the hard part would be the relationships and the connections.
And I think that's easy for us.
It's been something that, you know, when your boots on the ground in DC, you can kind of
So you're telling me like, this is so cool.
So you think like the guy behind the desk, Canary is going to go like, damn, this trick
was hard. He's going to be sweeping the floor at Canary is going to go like, hmm, damn, this trick was hard.
He's just going to be sweeping the floor and open, see, you know, like that.
To me, it's so wild that like we've come from 2021 NFT media.
You know, we talked about this on the show, like, at some point, like NFTs are arguably more fun than meme coins, et cetera, but you kind of have best of both worlds.
So now you can, you know, you can just go buy a Pudgy Pigment Plus at Walmart
if you just want to, you know, the toy or you can end up with the NFT or
or the token if you want to have access to the ecosystem and now you're gonna be
DTS gonna be able to to buy these up this is really cool man fuck this is so
sick I didn't think it would be possible this soon honestly for the NFTs itself
that's really cool anyways Tyler back to. I just wanted to comment on that
because I just think it's such a big advancement.
I know you got ties to VanEck
who was like the Penguin PFP and never changed it.
And then you have Bitwise, Hunter Horsley
who has you guys in the index.
Is it possible that we see more filings on NFTs like that?
Yeah, I think we totally will.
And I think, again, this is probably just one of, I think,
many things that we have coming year.
I'm also trying to think, how can I just
I'm actually pretty bullish on this stuff getting approved.
I just functionally, if I'm looking at the landscape
and what I think is in the process of being approved, And then I'm looking at, you know, not only the the Pengu ETF, but
maybe just a holistic NFT ETF. Maybe there's a culture ETF, right? There's like, there's
definitely a lot of that we're exploring that not only just benefits, you know, us and our
ecosystem, but others as well. I think we're in a position of leadership and as leaders,
it's our job to lead. And, you know, ultimately, I think there's other things that we can do for
the greater community, not just the Pudgey Penguin community, as we kind of make these efforts.
Wow. I'm with you. I'm in the camp that I think a lot of these are going to get approved.
Yeah. Almost maybe almost universally across the board. That might be a little too optimistic,
but then the question becomes if all these ETFs are approved,
there's less differentiation in getting an ETF.
So how do you drive demand?
I think that's the number one question
that I saw on the timeline yesterday.
So I'm curious for your thoughts.
How's the team thinking about that?
I think the part that I'm really focused on, like while the market is the way that the
market is, is how do you just optimize and create the best foundation possible to basically
put you in a position to win?
And so I got like a couple different buckets that I'm kind of like thinking about, which
is like on one side from an exchange listing perspective, yeah, there's going to be tens of millions of coins pretty soon here.
You'll probably have 100 million coins, but there's only going to be 100 or 70 that are listed on all the meaningful exchanges.
Right. And so, you know, when I mean that, I mean like Robin Hood Coinbase, Binance, the whole lot.
And so, OK, that's a degree of separation.
And then maybe, you know, on the institutional side, you can have a couple of different ETF vehicles.
That's another piece of the foundation.
Eventually, once you have all of those different pieces,
I think the big thing that I'm trying to do
is separate myself from the millions of other tokens
that are coming out and that are, you know,
constantly being created on the campus.
And once you have that foundation,
then it's a matter of how do you compete for attention.
And that is the part that like has never
worried us, right? Like a lot of people have filed for an ETF. But if you even just look at like how we rolled out the
ETF yesterday, like we have the ability to get more noise in the next person. And I think if you have the right
foundation, and the right story, which I think we're on the precipice of having the right foundation, I think we've been
telling an amazing story for the last couple of years.
And you kind of pile that on with like huge moments and huge marketing sprees.
I think like the ability to create demand is probably the least of our worries.
I think the worry or the thing that we're focusing on now is making sure that we have the necessary foundation
so that when we create that demand, we can capture that demand.
Right. I think the difference between us and everyone else is
everyone, I think, will have a moment in which they can kind of garner and facilitate attention. How much of that attention can
you capture, I think, is the important part. So we're just really going steadfast and just understanding, like, look, the
market's choppy. We won't really have that much clarity, I think. And I think things won't get that bullish until maybe towards the later end of the year. How do we put ourselves in a position so that, you know, when risk
is on, right, we are in places and nobody else is in and we can capture those inflows,
right? And, and, and I think that's the game that we're playing. And I think it's going
to work out really well for us, you know, as the market turns around.
I would agree. I think you and team have been the ability
to capture attention in an ongoing fashion
as good as anyone over the last few years.
So my hat's off to you there.
We've shared praise on the show for kind of words.
I shared some positive thoughts yesterday.
There's been a lot of critics on the timeline as well.
So I wanted to get to, there's folks on my timeline
who said it was the dumbest thing they've ever seen.
I wanted a chance to respond to the critics out there.
Like everything, you know, everything, every time we've done something, there was something,
it was the dumbest thing that somebody ever saw. When we put plushies in Walmart, we were a little
kid's brand. When we did a blockchain, we didn't know how to build blockchain. Why are we doing that?
Right? Like everything we do is, is met with some skepticism and ultimately if you don't have
skepticism or you don't have haters, you're probably doing something wrong. Ultimately,
like look, the plan is the plan, right? Like when I tell you that, you know, the intent for us is to
capture demand and to capture inflows and to separate ourselves from the tens of millions
of tokens that are out there, I mean, like how could you refute that? How could you say that's silly?
And ultimately, at the end of the day,
nobody's balking at a Doge ETF.
Nobody really balked at a Bonk ETF.
But Pudgey Penguins is in Walmart.
Pudgey Penguins one day will be on the big screen.
Pudgey Penguins one day will be in games on your phone
And we're just not going to stop winning.
And whether it feels like we're winning
in this moment in time or not, doesn't really matter. Like ultimately, we've been on this
rodeo enough where it's like, look, like we have a formula, we know how to manufacture
success. And this is the obvious logical conclusion in terms of things that people should be doing.
And if you're not supporting what I think is crypto's underdog, and one of the most
beautiful stories that I think has come out ofdog, and one of the most beautiful stories that
I think has come out of the industry in the last 510 years,
then that's your prerogative. But ultimately, like we're
going to continue driving success. And I think laying the
foundation and allowing people, you know, if and when you can
really break through into that peak mania and craze to
participate, that is the best thing that I can do for our
holder base. And that's the best thing that I can do for our
community. And how you can spin that any other way, I
think is just silly. Because if there's a Doge ETF, there's no way you can't believe there's
not going to be a Pengu ETF. Exactly. Pengu is so much more relatable and credible and
understandable, I think, than that new user today, outside of maybe the history of Doge,
and obviously its longevity
and its success than I think anything else out there.
So to me, this is kind of obvious.
And if you think it's silly, you probably think a lot of other things are silly.
So I'll leave that up to leave that up to them.
I mean, they did say a podcast network on Twitter spaces was stupid and we made it to
So at the end of the day, you know, I mean, it's just, you know, usually when the masses call something stupid, especially on crypto Twitter, you kind of want to take the other side of that and bet on that.
I'm starting to index more like a real, a real like number one folks. I'm gonna pull it off. It's a little bit more. There's a little more magic.
And I think things that I think people have yet to figure out, but like I'm going after the XRP army, right?
Like I'm almost graduated from this mindset
I've kind of seen like that part of it.
We gotta be more like them.
That's a nerve I know I can tap into.
I've seen the best and worst parts of CT
and ultimately like they're gonna continue doing
what they're doing. Like there's a whole world out there of people, millions of people
that are in crypto that are championing narratives that are championing, you know, tokens that
are seeing huge success that literally nobody knows what CT is. And I think Pudgey Penguins
is right for that group. Um, so, you know, over the course of time, I'm, I'm very confident
that we're going to infiltrate this NetNorme audience.
Yeah, you already are. Love it. I recently gifted, so you got another care package from you guys.
And I recently gifted like all the little toys to like my neighbor's daughter and all that stuff.
And they were just like running around like screaming.
She then came up to me. She's like, thank you so much. Give me a huge hug and like little things like that. And all the way to like
these ETFs and the blockchain and streamers that you just appeal to like top down to like all ages
in a way at this stage, especially with the addition of abstract now and everything are coming on.
And then, you know, institutional and there's a little older crowd now with the ETFs given
that they get approved. So that would be really cool. So anyways, look at it. Congratulations.
Love to see that. Thank you for coming today. That was great. And we'll be rooting for you. That's for sure. So
can't wait to see what you're doing next. Appreciate you. And I'll see you on myriad markets.
Hell yeah, baby. Much love. Peace out, Luca. Bye guys. All right. All right. Well, this is the time
that you guys have all been waiting for. I love that. That was, that was, that was a good show.
That was good. We had, you know, end the week Amanda ran the week with with with hang tight everyone raffleball.xyz
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I'm excited man. It's me build up every time we talk. Yeah, I like it. I like talking to Luca
We talk a lot cuz obviously we're building our abstracting stuff and you know, it's it's just good
You know you these people don't give a fuck, you know, just build you know one thing. Oh, that's what I wanted to say
Whoever is in charge. I see PP in there
Shiv burko we're in charge of the gift
I was trying to send Persian New Year no rules gifts to everyone and
Usually there's a penguin gift for everything and there wasn't a pudgy penguin gift for the Persian New Year
That was a little sad. I'm not gonna lie
So if we can make a little happy Noru's gift with like, you know
The penguins like dancing around the half scene like little table and all that that would be fire
Personal requests, you know for the for the Iranian penguins out there, you know, it's not just the rain is a little Persian people
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