Opie oh you want to come out here
Opia you want to come out here. What what what was good, baby? What's good was good was good was good?
What what what what was good, baby? What's go was go was go was go was go was go was go was go. What's good. What's good?
Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. What's good? What's good? What's good? What's good? What's good?
What's good? What's good? What's good? Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, I miss you on that first man. Look
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, I miss you on that first man. Look
I'm not gonna lie today's my flu game for shit. So I feel like absolute shit. But look the show must go on
I'm not gonna lie today's my flu game for shit. So I feel like absolute shit. But look the show must go on
Here's what we're about to do. I'm gonna play a song real quick. I'm gonna play a song. I'm gonna play a song
I'll let some MFers up as always if you would like to speak at the request button
I probably won't let you up. Hey, I'm feeling generous today, man. I probably will today
And we do have a lot to talk about in fact, so as always look on play the song
I'm gonna try this coffee. I'll be back when I'm back. See you on a minute
I'll be back when I'm back. See you on a minute
Sounds like shit. There's nothing I can do about it. Sorry
You crypto Twitter motherfuckers, man, we are back we are better than absolutely ever man, I missed y'all
You crypto Twitter motherfuckers man, we are back we are better than absolutely ever man, I missed y'all
Man, we've got a fire. This is four weeks now
Five day a week spaces. It's been a while dude since we've come anywhere close to that
Twenty I told y'all 20 24. We're getting back to the roots. We're making spaces a fucking priority again
What I told y'all 2024 we're getting back to the roots. We're making spaces a fucking priority again. And here we are doing
And here we are doing absolute thing. So you love to see that is so good to see y'all
Absolute thing. So you love to see that is so good to see y'all
I'm not gonna lie. This is my flu game today. I might sound like shit. I don't even know
I'm not gonna lie. This is my flu game today. I might sound like shit. I don't even know
I woke up down atrocious. So whoever the fuck got me thick at IRL alpha last night. I see Austin in the audience
I woke up down atrocious. So whoever the fuck got me thick at IRL alpha last night
I see Austin in the audience. I don't know which one of you of efforts it was but it was one of you
I don't know which one of you MFers. It was but it was one of you
Okay, no, it was not me. I'm not the source
Can't know it was not me. I'm not the source
So fuck you for that. But look
So fuck you for that. But look
It's so good to see y'all man, we do got a lot to talk about today
It's so good to see y'all man. We do got a lot to talk about today. We got a lot going on
We got a lot going on. I started this space with a title and you Tate saved crypto, which was a
I started this space with a title and you Tate saved crypto, which was a
Which was a fun one. We got to talk about that. Absolutely. We'll talk about Tate for a little bit
Which was a fun one. We got to talk about that. Absolutely. We'll talk about Tate for a little bit
Our Savior there's a lot going on. I got this fucking bull with hat on the top. Also
Our savior. There's a lot going on. I got this fucking bull with hat on the top. Also
Playing cars with 21 Savage yesterday
Playing cars with 21 Savage yesterday pretty kind of crazy, dude
Pretty kind of crazy dude, like I don't know if anyone saw this
Like I don't know if anyone saw this. I know this has nothing to do with crypto, but Aiden was dreaming with
I know this has nothing to do with crypto, but Aiden was dreaming with
With 21 Savage and bros out here like marking
With 21 Savage and bros out here like marking
I mean the brother gambling with like absurd amounts of money
I mean the brother gambling with like absurd amounts of money
Like there was like 500 can't half a million fucking dollars in the line and the stream ended mad weird
Like there was like 500 can't half a million fucking dollars in the line and the stream ended mad weird
Like he he like caught him. I don't know 21 Savage is like rich rich. That's like like co-album with Drake rich
Like he he like caught him. I don't know 21 Savage is like rich rich
That's like like co-album with Drake rich
Like like rich flex rich like broke boys rich
Like like rich flex rich like broke boys rich
And bro like caught him fucking cheating at the end of the stream and they basically just like ended it right there
And bro like caught him fucking cheating at the end of the stream and they basically just like ended it right there
He left like it was what it was. It's fucking weird
He left like it was what it was. It's fucking weird. I'm starting to Aiden Ross who's been on fucking fire, but that shit was weird
Not to Aiden Ross who's been on fucking fire, but that shit was weird. I'm not gonna lie
I'm not gonna lie. I watched that I was like, what the hell is going on these streamers are losing ridiculous
I watched that I was like what the hell is going on these streamers are losing ridiculous
I'm awesome. This man Kyle lost $300,000 on stream the other day as well pretty fucking brutal
This man Kai lost $300,000 on stream the other day as well pretty fucking brutal
So shout out to shout out to stream culture
So shout out to shout out to stream culture
There is a lot going on I I didn't watch the
There is a lot going on I didn't watch the
Andrew Tate made like a new video today like addressing the the fucking State of the Union address addressing the crypto community
Andrew Tate made like a new video today like addressing the the fucking state of the union address addressing the crypto community
I didn't listen to it. I'll say this though and we could talk about it a little bit
I didn't listen to it. I'll say this though and we could talk about it a little bit
The tweet about the shit coin with the first of all university.com
The tweet about the shit coin with the first of all university.com
I don't know what he paid for that one of the most goaded domains in the fucking history and that tweet
I don't know what he paid for that one of the most goaded domains in the fucking history and that tweet
bro, I bet you he made more money on that tweet then I
bro, I bet you he made more money on that tweet then
Like my family's like bloodline in the history of our existence
My family's like bloodline and the history of our existence seriously like that that tweet probably made him so much goddamn money
Seriously like that that tweet probably made him so much goddamn money talking about the shit
Talking about the shit company gonna put a hundred mill into a shit coin for his holders
He got put a hundred mill into a shit coin for his holders
I did fucking go in and marketing play leap wishes he could pull some shit off like that
But shout out to our boy Tate. I don't know if I'll say our boy Tate, but not to Andrew Tate
But not to our boy Tate, I don't know if I'll say our boy Tate, but not to Andrew Tate
Please come save the crypto community. I
Please come save the crypto community
I did I roll out for yesterday, which was fucking lit so not to man
Did our all alpha yesterday which was fucking lit so not to man
I I don't know if I'm just like drinking the Kool-Aid or what but those doodles and efforts are like
I I don't know if I'm just like drinking the Kool-Aid or what but those doodles and efforts are like
There's looking kind of attractive at a 2e4 price. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what it is
There's looking kind of attractive at a two-week floor price. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what it is
I might be drinking the cool like I said this yesterday
I might be drinking the cool like I said this yesterday
When I was trying to do the interview with Julian like two days ago when I came on spaces yesterday
When I was trying to do the interview with Julian like two days ago and I came on spaces yesterday
And I was like alright, let me like preface this by saying I I drink the Kool-Aid
I was like, all right, let me like preface this by saying I I drink the Kool-Aid
Okay, I get a height leap noses. I get hype where you talk to me in person
Okay, I get a height leap noses. I get hype or you talk to me in person
I go down the rabbit hole. I get hype I go all in on some shit like instantly
I go down the rabbit hole. I get hype I go all in on some shit like instantly
So I'm not sure if it's like my perspective is huge if it's actually real if it's not whatever it is
So I'm not sure if like my perspective is skewed if it's actually real if it's not whatever it is
but I remember leaving two days ago and I was like fuck man doodles are doing some cool shit and
but I remember leaving two days ago and I was like fuck man doodles are doing some cool shit and
I remember leaving Ireland for last night and I was like fuck man doodles are doing some cool shit and other people were like
I remember leaving I rely on for last night and I was like fuck man
Doodles are doing some cool shit and other people were like fuck man. Doodles are doing some cool shit
Fuck man doodles are doing some cool shit. I don't know dude
I don't know dude. I and I said this I said this cuz I was getting like
I and I said this I said this cuz I was getting like
I was getting pressed by a doodles holder
I was getting pressed by a doodles holder
And I roll out for yesterday and they're like how many doodles you have?
And I roll out for yesterday and they're like how many doodles do you have I was like, what do you mean?
What do you mean? How many doodles do I have it already?
How many doodles do I have it already? What are you talking about? And they started pressing me and
What are you talking about and they started pressing me and I I was saying like dude for like two years
I was saying like dude for like two years doodles were straight up the like but to every joke
Doodles were straight up the like but to every joke
I made like every there were like the project that would just like catch an unnecessary
I made like every there were like the project that would just like catch an unnecessary
Stray in one of my shit post just because I needed like a target and they were a fairly easy target
Stray in one of my shit post just because I needed like a target and they were a fairly easy target
And I don't know like I wanted to I've talked more shit about doodles and maybe any collection other than like moonbirds and
And I don't know like I wanted to I've talked more shit about doodles and maybe any collection other than like moonbirds and I
They're kind of winning me over dude. They're kind of fucking winning me over there genuinely
They're kind of winning me over dude
They're kind of fucking winning me over they're genuinely y'all know what it is
I don't know what it is. What's in the air what they put in my drink, whatever it is
What's in the air what they put in my drink? Whatever it is
They're kind of winning me over and as we look like I'm looking at fucking
They're kind of winning me over and as we look like I'm looking at fucking
The NFT market right now as we look at these like it's kind of crazy
The NFT market right now as we look at these like it's kind of crazy
We called 2021 NFTs legacy collections, but I'm looking at these like moonbirds and and clone axe didn't like all these cool cats
We call 2021 NFTs legacy collections, but as I'm looking at these like moonbirds and and cloned acts and like all these cool cats
I mean even fucking a dookie as I'm looking at these collections. I'm like which one of these
I mean even fucking a dookie. I'm looking at these collections. I'm like which one of these
Has even the slightest chance in the world and they're kind of up there double down with the fact they haven't done a token
Has even the slightest chance in the world and they're kind of up there double down with the fact they haven't done a token
It's like I don't know gang. I don't fucking know. I mean we spent a lot
I don't know gang. I don't fucking know. I mean we spent a lot
I mean look I got double co-host after it. I got a leap on stage
I mean like I got double co-host after it. I got a leap on stage
I mean dude, I just thought about doodles for like 48 hours your ass was talking about in space yesterday
I mean dude, I was talking about doodles for like 48 hours your ass was talking about in spaces yesterday
I don't know if they're paying you the paying me if they're paying us what's happening, but we're talking about fucking do it
I don't know if they're paying you paying me if they're paying us what's happening, but we're talking about fucking do I mean
I mean, do you have any leap your PFP looks like a goddamn doodle. I'll tell you what
Do you have any leap the PFP looks like a goddamn doodle. I'll tell you what
Okay, first of all you get way too hype on everything the other day
Okay, first of all you get way too hype on everything the other day
He saw chef Ramsey video and he started to try to convince me that we should just dedicate our lives to being chefs
He saw chef Ramsey video and he started to try to convince me that we should just dedicate our lives to being chefs
For like four hours. Hey, don't lie the influence for cooking trend on tiktok's a little crazy, bro
For like four hours. Hey, don't lie the influencer cooking trend on tiktok's going crazy, bro. Yeah, I mean ice cream
Yeah, I mean ice cream. Yum. Yum, so good, but like look I am I said this in my space last night
Yeah, I'm so good. But like look I um, I said this in my space last night
And I've actually dude my opinion on this has not changed in the past year and a half
And I've actually dude my opinion on this has not changed in the past year and a half
It's on record. I still think doodles have the I don't say the best art cuz it's subjective
It's on record. I still think doodles have the I don't say the best art because it's subjective
But I think they have some of the best art that's ever been created in terms of generative IP based
But I think they have some of the best art that's ever been created in terms of generative IP based
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. It's true. It's true
It's true, it's true. Oh, no, did you just say they have some of the best art that's ever been created in the history of time?
Hold on. Hold on. Did you just say they have some of the best or that's ever been created in the history of time?
Is that what you just said in in web 3 in terms of like Beethoven level or like Beethoven level is what you're saying
Is that what you just said in in web 3 in terms of like Beethoven level or like Beethoven level is what you're saying
If you if you look at generative identity based PFP NFTs as their own genre
If you if you look at generative identity based PFP NFTs as their own genre
Then doodles are literally up there with it's either like top two or top three or even maybe top one depending on what your taste
Then doodles are literally up there with it's either like top two or top three or even maybe top one depending on what your taste is
Is like it it is so difficult to do what they did and they fucking the art is incredible
Like it it is so difficult to do what they did and they fucking the art is incredible
I don't know what I don't know what else I've been saying this for a year and a half
Like I don't know what I don't know what else I've been saying this for a year and a half
Are you talking about the actual PFP or like the animations because the PFP is I mean somewhat
Are you talking about the actual PFP or like the animations because the PFP is I mean somewhat
Basic but the animations they do is that's insane. That is like an in just like an insane a basic
Basic with the animations they do is that's insane. That is like an just like an insane
a basic their entire color palette became a trait in other collections like
their entire color palette became a trait in other collections like
That is so difficult. Okay, but they didn't like I've been rid of me this mr. Deeply Lee
That is so difficult. Okay, but they didn't like I've been it rid of me this mr. Deepley
They don't like invent pastels, right? Like they didn't like invent the color palette. There's no way you just said riddle me this
They don't like invent pastels, right? Like they didn't like invent the color palette. There's no way you just said riddle me this
No, I mean they didn't create pastels, but look you said something about legacy collections
No, I mean they didn't create pastels. But look you said something about legacy collections
this may be a hot take but I still think these quote-unquote legacy collections are I
this may be a hot take but I still think these quote-unquote legacy collections are I
Would say way better than basically almost everything that came out in the past year
Would say way better than basically almost everything that came out in the past year
Like it I would you'd be hard-pressed to find something that has a level of art
Like I would you'd be a hard press to find something that has a level of art
Community like real team and funding behind them compared to the legacy collections even like I don't want to say moonbirds
Community like real team and funding behind them compared to the legacy collections even like I don't want to say moonbirds
Whatever, but tell me a client. Okay thread you riddle me this I'm effort last year last 365 days
Whatever, but tell me a client. Okay thread you riddle me this I'm effort last year last 365 days
What is a collection that came out that really just I mean went to the next level amazing art amazing roll out
What is a collection that came out that really just I mean went to the next level?
Amazing our amazing rollout and don't tell me crypto and dead
And don't tell me crypto and debts
Pump it. This is ridiculous
pump it's this is ridiculous, um
Okay, I look it's a good question
Okay, I look it's a good question
Like I genuinely don't have a lot of answers to you
Like I genuinely don't have a lot of answers to you
Like who came through and I changed the game new mints new collections 2023 on I don't really have a lot of answers
Like who came through and I changed the game new mints new collections 2023 on I don't really have a lot of answers
I go. I mean, what do you yeah, you had something in mind yet some of your bags in mind when he said that
I mean, what do you yeah, you had something in my you had some of your bags in mind when he said that
okay, so what what bag did you have in mind not my bags because I'm an idiot but
okay, so what what bag did you have in mind not my bags because I'm an idiot, but
There obviously are some things on Bitcoin that are really interesting to me
There obviously are some things on Bitcoin that are really interesting to me
I think OMB is like one of the collections out of the past year that just really bro DK is not here
I think OMB is like one of the collections out of the past year that just really bro DK is not here
You do not have to be on your knees. Oh
You do not have to be on your knees. Oh
You would see case that to me in our space last night
You see case that to me in our space last night
He said Lee, but cuz he we were doing hot take arena and he's the DM. He's like look
He said Lee but cuz he we were doing hot take arena and he's the DM
He's like look, I'd like a really hot take but don't hate me
I'd like a really hot take but don't hate me
I'm like, all right, fuck it come up and he comes up and he's like look
I'm like, all right, fuck it come up and he comes up and he's like look
I think Twitter space hosts are the Jim Cramer of
I think Twitter space hosts are the Jim Cramer of
NFT and if anybody's listening to Twitter space host to learn anything then you guys are just completely in the wrong basically
NFT and if anybody's listening to Twitter space hosts to learn anything then you guys are just completely in the wrong basically
I mean, what do you think about that take thread?
I mean, what do you think about that takes red?
I think small buggers spittin maybe easy, bro. I mean we got multiple Twitter a beach act
I mean, I think small buggers spittin maybe easy grow. I mean we got multiple Twitter a beach act
We got another Twitter spaces host on the stage. I mean beat that good to see you. I'm effort
We got another Twitter spaces host on the stage. I mean beat that good to see you on that for me
What do you think about it?
What do you think about it if let me ask you this if I'm listening to you and your space for advice
If let me ask you this if I'm listening to you and your space for advice
Am I basically setting myself up for failure be checked?
Am I basically setting myself up for failure be checked?
That's a great take. It's actually a really really good take
That's a great take. It's actually a really really good take
I thought about this before where I because I've written the newsletter for so many weeks in a row now
I thought about this before where I because I've written the newsletter for so many weeks in a row now
I think I did my 107 addition today and
There was one article in particular. Remember when those
There was one article in particular. Remember when those
Meme cards were going absolutely insane like the punk 6 5 2 9 that ecosystem. It went completely crazy
Meme cards were going absolutely insane like the punk six five two nine that ecosystem
It went completely crazy. My article came out. It was like it included numbers
My article came out. It was like it included numbers
I included figures included how much I was up and everything and that literally marked the top
I included figures included how much I was up and everything and that literally marked the top
So I think I think you might get away with it as a spaces host cuz you're like really really live like on the day
So I think I think you might get away with it as a spaces host because you're like really really live like on the day
But if you're like publishing something like a weekly roundup or anything nonsense like that
But if you're like publishing something like a weekly roundup or anything nonsense like that
I'm not saying my newsletter nonsense definitely do subscribe and read it
I'm not saying my newsletter is nonsense. Definitely do subscribe and read it. But if you're like a few days off
But if you're like a few days off man, yeah, you're playing with fire there. I think that's a great take
Man, yeah, you're playing with fire there. I think that's a great take
Holy this is like putting ourselves. Alright leap just came on a stage be checked and so that doodles
Holy this is like putting ourselves. All right, we just came on a stage B check and so that doodles
Invented pastels and have the best art in the history of time. I will I what do you make of that take?
Invented pastels and have the best art in the history of time. I will I what do you make of that take?
I mean the old pieces leave just set out I
I mean the old pieces leave just set out I
Was a I can't disagree with much of that the thing about the thing about the pastel stuff
Can't disagree with much of that. The thing about the thing about the pastel stuff
It's like you don't need to invent. You don't need to invent the colors. It's the way that you combine them
But you don't need to invent you don't need to invent the colors. It's the way that you combine them
It's the way that you intertwine them. It's the way that you animate them like
It's the way that you intertwine them. It's the way that you animate them like
That's what becomes iconic like all of those things can exist independently. It's the way that you adjust them and
that's what becomes iconic like all of those things will can exist independently, but it's the way that you adjust them and
Yeah, like I've said as well previously like I think the art
Yeah, like I've said as well previously like I think the art
Has been fantastic the whole time the whole time
Has been fantastic the whole time the whole time
but yeah, there's the question mark on like the commitment to the web 3 side of
but yeah, there's the question mark on like the commitment to the web 3 side of
You know the operation but in terms of the art you can have absolutely no complaints. I think it's great
You know the operation but in terms of the art you can have absolutely no complaints. I think it's great
The two ugliest PFPs in his whole fucking space right you're keeping class about fine art bro
List and don't know the third makes us qualified to I'd never buy a mutant
Makes us qualified to know I'd never buy a mutant, but I would buy your I bought one of your PFPs cuz it looks fucking cool
But I'd buy your I bought one of your PFPs cuz it looks fucking cool
Hey, I traded for my meeting. I didn't buy it
All right. I have a genuine question though. I have a genuine question then I have genuine question
I'll throw it to Lee because we've been talking about this the other day
I'll throw it to Lee because we've been talking about this the other day
It doesn't not even as it relates to doodles like I know that we're talking about doodles
It's like let's go go above doodles broadly space at large
does the fucking like does art and
Quality quote-unquote of PFP art specifically not one-on-one not gender PFP art specifically
Specifically not one-on-one not gender PFP art specifically. There's a quality of art whatsoever
There's a quality of art whatsoever effect for pricing at all like Jen
Affects more pricing at all like Jen genuinely
Genuinely yeah, cuz here's the thing like we've been talking about this as well
Cuz here's the thing like we've been talking about this as well
We've been super bear selling utility in this space recently. We just have been you know, I've been a leap
We've been super bears on utility in this space recently we just have been you know
I've been a leap even talking about in the background. I'm like a gig a bear on utility right gig a bear on
We've been talking about in the background. I'm like a gigabear on utility right gigabear on
utility as we know it right now, but I also just like I
Struggled so much with the narrative of like justifying floor price and egregiously high floor prices because the art is good
I'm PFP specifically like I I sort of feel like we are completely lying to ourselves when we say that I I just am I
Genuinely am that you see some shit like Bitcoin puppets where I I think the arts great
But you see some shit like Bitcoin puppets why I think the arts great, but half the space and things just a complete joke
But half the space thinks it's a complete joke. I think we're completely lying to ourselves
I think we're completely lying to ourselves
Justifying PFP floor prices by art quality is that I mean we I mean look at your PFP leap
Justifying PFP floor prices by art quality. Is that I mean we I mean look at your PFP leap
I mean, what do you think am I crazy here?
I mean, what do you think am I crazy here?
Okay, so I mean that there's multiple ways to look at this one is time frame
Okay, so I mean that there's multiple ways to look at this one is time frame
So on release I think art has a huge amount to do with actually how the floor price does
So on release, I think art has a huge amount to do with actually how the floor price does
I mean crypto undeads is a perfect example of this or ether is another example of it like whether positive or negative
I mean crypto undeads is a perfect example of this or ether is another example
Like whether positive or negative right so on release like short term
Right. So on release like short-term. Yes, I think over the midterm has almost zero impact and I think over the long term
Yes, I think over the midterm has almost zero impact and I think over the long term
I think it has the most impact like you don't look at
I think it has the most impact like you don't look like
Yeah, hold up because here's the thing that you this is where I think we've got it wrong the utility
Yeah, hold up because here's the thing that you this is where I think we've got it wrong the utility
People are trying to do all this like token gated stuff
People are trying to do all this like token gated stuff
Whatever and like that's totally fine and like maybe there's a place for that
Whatever like that's totally fine and like maybe there's a place for that
But I think the utility is legitimately having the collectible like that is what it is
But I think the utility is legitimately having the collectible like that is what it is
Nobody buys a first edition Charizard and then asks Nintendo to do anything for them
Nobody buys a first edition Charizard and then asks Nintendo to do anything for them
No, they fucking love it because it's rare and they like Charizard and so on and so forth
No, they fucking love it because it's rare and they like Charizard and so on and so forth
So that's one way and then another thing is and I'll ask you this like look at rug radios
So that's one way and then another thing is and I'll ask you this like look at rug radios
PFPs with Corey van leu there is and I don't know what the floor price is of them now
PFPs with Corey van leu there is and I don't know what the floor price is of them now
But you can apply this example to literally anything
But you can apply this example to literally anything
If the artists themselves if there's some intrinsic value and pre like a history of previous work selling highly
If the artists themselves if there's some intrinsic value and pre like a history of previous work selling highly
Do you think some of that value carries over like even with clonax and like a lot of the Murakami stuff?
Do you think some of that value carries over like even with clonax and like a lot of the Murakami stuff?
Is there like an intrinsic value there because it is Murakami. I
Is there like an intrinsic value there because it is Murakami? I believe so
Believe so, but I think that only comes into play over the long term. I
But I think that only comes into play over the long term. I
Actually think that like a
Actually think that like a
Extraordinarily small percentage of NFTs are for the like collectible like I
extraordinarily small percentage of NFTs are for the like collectible like I
The Charizard take is real like that's a gummies like a good take objectively
The Charizard take is real. Like that's a gummies like a good take objectively
I think there's like the super small percentage of fine high-end art like like the goose for example
You're not buying a goose for fucking community or any of this bullshit. You're buying it for the collectible aspect
But I very much do feel like here's here's the take I guess is this Twitter
But I very much do feel like here's here's the take I guess is this Twitter
Disappeared tomorrow almost every PFP goes down like 95% because you're not I promised you
Disappeared tomorrow almost every PFP goes down like 95 percent because you're not I promised you you are now holding a board
You are now holding a board eight for 30 25 20 eat 50 grand whatever
A for 30 25 20 eat 50 grand whatever
Because like the collectible historical aspect having a board ape in your wallet
Because like the collectible historical aspect having a board ape in your wallet
You are not and honestly bro as much as I love the Bitcoin puppets if Twitter disappears tomorrow
Like you are not and honestly though as much as I love the Bitcoin puppets if Twitter disappears tomorrow
The puppets are in trouble brother. The puppets are fucking in trouble
The puppets are in trouble brother. The puppets are fucking in trouble and it's just the reality of the situation
and it's just the reality of the situation and if you look at any major like I
and if you look at any major like I
think a very small percentage like your PFP for example is
think a very small percentage like your PFP for example is
You're not holding it for like the Twitter cloud clearly right you're holding it for the collectible aspect
You're not holding it for like the Twitter cloud clearly, right?
You're holding it for the collectible aspect is nostalgic now
It's nostalgic now like it's near near and dear like you love it
Like it's near near and dear like you love it
You're appreciated but I very much feel like like 99% of this shit is gonna get would get
But I very much feel like like 99 percent of this shit is gonna get would get absolutely
Absolutely turbo rekt if CT just like disappeared tomorrow
Turbo-rept if CT just like disappeared tomorrow
I also think your art take was kind of remember your first art take you've ever had that wasn't awful is
I also think your art take was kind of in for your first art take you've ever had that wasn't awful is
It only really matters on launch and then down like mid-term to long-term. It kind of doesn't matter at all
It only really matters on launch and then down like midterm to long term. It kind of doesn't matter at all
I think you know a good example is you missed his Renga
I think you know a good example is you missed his Renga
I remember Renga was like that was the new new paradigm the best art in the space
I remember Renga was like that was the new new paradigm the best art in the space
That was the project in my opinion that was pushed as the best art in the space ever
That was the project in my opinion that was pushed as the best art in the space ever
Best PFP or the spaces ever seen it does not mean a fucking thing. It did not meant it definitely did on men
Best PFP art the space has ever seen it does not mean a fucking thing. It did not meant it definitely did on mint
You're right. I think another example of this was uh, I don't see wasn't Zuki which has held up very well
You're right. I think another example of this was uh
Honestly was a Zuki which has held up very well as you keys sort of in
It was you keys sort of been I don't know one of the higher tier collections
I don't know one of the higher tier collections
But I remember part of the week like when the Zuki launched we didn't know anything about it other than the fact like yo
But I remember part of the week like when the Zuki launched we didn't know anything about it other than the fact
Like yo, this is some art at a level in a style. We just have like never seen but I
This is some art at a level in a style. We just have like never seen but I
100% think after like two weeks, bro, it no nobody gives a fuck anymore. It's like how much attention can you get on Twitter?
100% think after like two weeks, bro, it no nobody gives a fuck anymore. It's like how much attention can you get on Twitter?
Before I throw it to Jay beat check. I saw you unmuted. What's going on about her?
Before I throw it to Jay beat Jack. I saw you unmuted. What's going on about her?
yeah, the only thing I would add to that as well is
yeah, the only thing I would add to that as well is
when we were talking yesterday about like the cultish aspect the religious aspect, I mean people want to be a part of something and
When we were talking yesterday about like the cultish aspect the religious aspect
I mean people want to be a part of something and
Tied into that I think the collection size
Tied into that. I think the collection size
Matters like so say for example if we're gonna throw out these kind of hypothetical scenarios like if there were only
Matters like so say for example, if we're gonna throw out these kind of hypothetical scenarios, like if there were only
50 Azuki NFTs like would they trade at the same amount like in theory on some level you'd think well
50 Zuki NFTs like would they trade at the same amount?
Like in theory on some level you'd think well, okay
Okay, well, they're rarer now does that mean the price goes up if there were only 50 ever
Well, they're rarer now does that mean the price goes up, but if there were only 50 ever
Then you don't get that like velocity of buying that kind of craziness on the timeline that that
Then you don't get that like velocity of buying that kind of craziness on the timeline that that um
That feeling where like that's just spreading across the timeline that excitement that virality
That feeling where like that's just spreading across the timeline that excitement that virality
And so you don't maybe that the whole thing that happens
And so you don't maybe that the whole thing that happens
Which is why when an artist who creates work that does have value
Which is why when an artist who creates work that does have value like independently
Like independently but then like does like some kind of like niche
But then like does like some kind of like niche profile picture collection or something
Profile picture collection or something. It might not necessarily get that velocity in that attention. So
It might not necessarily get our velocity in that attention
so I think that's one of the aspects to think about as well because
I think that's one of the aspects to think about as well because
You've got to like there's probably a right size
You've got to like there's probably a right size
For these things where people feel like it's worth being a part of there's something bigger than just like a very small group of people
For these things where people feel like it's worth being a part of there's something bigger than just like a very small group of people
I mean puppets is even the better example because that one had a what is it 400 700?
I mean puppets is even the better example because that one had a what is it 400 700?
777 come on back brother. Yeah. Yeah peace collection before the 10k puppets came out
Yeah, yeah piece collection before the 10k puppets came out and that's what really you know
And that's what really you know put them all over the timeline and everything
Put them all over the timeline and everything
So I mean sometimes, you know
So I mean sometimes you know you need the bigger one to get everyone's attention because you need that many people
You need the bigger one to get everyone's attention because you need that many people invested in
Exactly. That's super interesting. I didn't even know there was one before so
Exactly. That's super interesting. I didn't even know there was one before said
There's anything happened to the one before
Has anything happened to the one before
No, and it kind of got I mean it pumped but the ratio is not like I mean puppets are definitely
But the ratio is not like I mean puppets are definitely
They didn't get the Arctic air drop be checked puppets did oh damn I know feels bad, man
They didn't get the arctic airdrop be checked puppets did
Oh damn, I know feels bad, man
Wait, what's up? I'm ever just quick quick take
Wait, what's up? I'm ever just quick quick take
These projects are like it's about the art
These projects are like it's about the art
It's about the art and something I was thinking about because like even just like think about Cory van
It's about the art and something I was thinking about
Because like even just like thinking about Cory van lew and the rug radio pfps or or them the more common clonax
Lou and the rug radio PFPs or or them the more common clone X all these collections about art
All these collections is about art
But we don't ever really get that much of focus on the artist
But we don't ever really get that much of focus on the artist
Like what makes art interesting is the artist behind it
Like what makes art interesting is the artist behind it?
Like you look at fucking like a banana tape to a wall and from a technical perspective anybody could do that
Like you look at fucking like a banana tape to a wall and from a technical perspective anybody could do that
But like what's the story or like jeff coons with like the balloons and there's a story behind the artist
But like what's the story or like Jeff Koons with like the balloons?
There's a story behind the artist and you look at even like crypto undeads
And you look at even like crypto undeads and it's like we have the goaded art like this art's gonna be amazing
It's like we have the goaded art like this arts gonna be amazing
But you won't even fucking tell us who the artist is
But you won't even fucking tell us who the artist is
Like if you want people to care about the art on like a deeper
Like if you want people to care about the art on like a deeper intrinsic level and have some value there that's outside of even
Intrinsic level and have some value there that's outside of even just NFTs going up and down
Just nft is going up and down
Then the artist needs to be a focal point. I actually think that's something doodles did really well and
Then the artist needs to be a focal point. I actually think that's something doodles did really well and um
There's like probably a couple other projects like even like moonbirds had like a well
There's like probably a couple other projects like even like moonbirds had like a decent big does it well
Yeah, OMB has there's a lot of focus on Tony with OMB as well. That's a good example
Yeah, omb has there's a lot of focus on tony with omb as well. Um, that's a good example
So like moonbirds did it well
So like moonbirds did it well
I mean like their art it like with Justin and everything like their artist was
I mean like their art like with justin and everything like their artist was
That was a focal point of it, but a lot of other collections. It's like hey, we have this sick art the arts amazing
Like that was a focal point of it, but a lot of other collections. It's like hey, we have this sick art the arts amazing
But they won't tell you who the artist is. There's no story to the artist. Like well, how did they get to this point?
They won't tell you who the artist is there's no story to the artist like well, how did they get to this point?
Oh, they really did that's got a DM someone is DM me. They should tell leave to shut the fuck up
Okay, really this that's kind of dm. Someone is dme. They should tell leave to shut the fuck up. No one knows who banks he is
No one knows who Banksy is
What do you mean? Also I made up the fuck up part by the way, but the second part they did say no one knows who
What do you mean? Also, I made up the fuck up part by the way, but the second part they did say no one knows who banks he is
Okay, you don't need to know somebody's real name to know who their character is like
Okay, you don't need to know somebody's real name to know who their character is
Like yeah, I don't know what banks his real name or like identity whatever
Yeah, I don't know what Banksy's real name or like identity whatever but we know who Banksy as a as a thing is as a can
But we know who banksy as a as a thing is as a like a conceptual being
Like a conceptual being so yes, we have to I think this is like a fucking there's a horrible take whoever gave
So yes, we have to I think this is like a fucking there's a horrible take whoever gave up. Wait, is that phase banksy?
Wait, is that phase Banksy? I?
There you were low-key spitting too I just fucked it up completely
You were lowkey spitting too I just fucked it up completely
Um, yeah set up to the the banksy tape
Yeah, set up to the the Banksy take
I'm trying to think of other examples that have done that well. I don't have one for you
I'm trying to think of other examples that have done that. Well, I don't have one for you
Uh bit boy jake my favorite alfacore my favorite block came bozo. I didn't say the best but I did say my favorite
Bitboy Jake my favorite Alpha call my favorite block came Bose
Oh, I didn't say the best but I did say my favorite what's going on Jay
Yo, yo, yo, I just feel like people are overthinking this shit. I mean
Yo, yo, yo, I just feel like people are overthinking this shit. I mean
Fucking it did it's a fucking to PFP
Fucking it did it's a fucking it's a pfp
It's how much like who picks it up and who's willing to fuck and throw it down everybody's throat
It's how much like who picks it up and who's willing to fucking throw it down everybody's throw
That's what it is. And who's to simplify everything is not fucking click that listing
That's what it is and who's at to simplify everything is not fucking click that listing
That's it that that I think people way overthink shit
That's it that that I think people way overthink shit
Hey, how hard is that pfp dumping that you're rocking right now of twitter disappeared tomorrow?
Hey, how hard is that PFP dumping that you're rocking right now of Twitter disappeared tomorrow, you know, to be honest. I'm so fucking deep
You know to be honest, I'm so fucking deep
Um, I can't even honestly I can't even fathom
I can't even honestly I can't even fathom
What the market of PFPs would look like if X would go down like there's there's really nothing
What the market of pfps would look like if x would go down like there's there's really nothing
About that shit like I don't know
About that shit like I don't know
I just I just feel like people overthink this shit like way too fucking much and then we have to throw in
I just I just feel like people overthink this shit like way too fucking much and then we have to throw in
People one more and more so we got to throw utility and did it we're all fucking DJ ends at the end of the day
People want more and more so we got to throw utility and dude. It's we're all fucking dgens at the end of the day
We just fell for something. We liked it and we just threw it down everybody's face
We just fell for something. We liked it and we just threw it down everybody's face
I mean everybody's throat and just you know tweets and tweets and tweets and now I'm just like, I don't know
I mean everybody's throat and just you know tweets and tweets and tweets and now i'm just like, I don't know
I'm, bearish like you can't show your bags because you're shilling, right?
I'm bearish like you can't show your bags because you're shilling, right?
Like the action today you were allowed to fucking go crazy like how shit coins are right now
Like dude the action today you were allowed to fucking go crazy like how shit coins are right now
You're allowed to go crazy with nfts now. It's like oh motherfucker's chilling because he's gonna dump
It's just like bro. I think we're getting too
It's just like bro. I think we're getting too
Like corporate here and we're fucking our own industry up. We're just D gents up then. Okay, I like the shit coin
Like corporate here and we're fucking our own industry up. We're just dgens at the end of the day
I like the shit coin take and I want to go to that in a minute
Take and I want to go to that in a minute
Um really quickly. I mean leap say that shit with your chest if you fucking mean it
Really quickly, I mean leap say that shit with your chest if you fucking mean it. Okay, so I just dm'd
Thread it. I can't even there's like no DMS that are private at this point. I'm listening ain't on you're calling me out
Thread it. I can't even there's like no dm's that are private at this point. Um, i'm listening anon you're calling me out
You're like that map for like I started listening. Ain't I was the softest shit in the fucking world
I started listening ain't I was the softest shit in the fucking world
Okay, tell me all right. It's the same as like throwing an orange background on your eth NFT and like treating over I
Okay, tell me all right. It's the same as like throwing an orange background on your ethnft and like pleading over this
I swear I just like join spaces and get bullied. I don't even know why I do this anymore. Look
Swear I just like joint spaces and get bullied. I don't even know why I do this. Look I
I I think this is a crazy
I actually didn't even think through this take I but I'm gonna say it anyway
I actually didn't even think through this take but i'm gonna say it anyway
I think if Twitter disappeared tomorrow, it would be the best fucking thing for NFTs that's ever happened. I by the way
I think if twitter disappeared tomorrow, it would be the best fucking thing for nfts that's ever happened
I don't know if that's a good take or not could be a bad take. What does that even mean?
Like if they all go away forever, that's good
Don't wait forever. That's good
If Twitter just disappeared I think like the NFT community is not disappearing
If twitter just disappeared, I think like the nft community is not disappearing
Yeah, we're gonna scramble a little bit but people go to like lens or far faster and maybe a moose to reddit
Yeah, we're gonna scramble a little bit but people go to like lens or farcaster and maybe it moves to reddit whatever
Whatever, but I think this may be threads
But I think this maybe threads
Oh god, great for your twitch
Think this reliance on Twitter is going to be the biggest crutch over a long period of like we're not I'm not talking to
I think this reliance on twitter is going to be the biggest crutch over a long period of like we're not i'm not talking
Two three years maybe we're thinking like five to ten, but this reliance on elon musk bro took away nft. I um verification
Three years, maybe we're thinking like five to ten, but this reliance on Elon Musk wrote took away NFT
Verification he could easily just implement a rule in which you can't show crypto anymore. Like imagine
He could easily just implement a rule in which you can't show crypto anymore like imagine
It could happen dude. It could happen imagine Andrew t launches the coin and like it's to the biggest thing ever
It could happen imagine andrutee launches the coin
And like it's the biggest thing ever and so many people get wrecked do an exploit
And so many people get wrecked do an exploit Elon might come out and say look
Elon might come out and say look i'm not going to let people use this app to basically show shit coins anymore
I'm not gonna let people use this app to basically show shit coins anymore. Like that is a
Like that is a true possibility. Tiktok did that. Um, my thing. Tiktok didn't do that
It's a it's a real possibility and I and I think people are like way too comfortable and even me dude
It's a it's a real possibility and I and I think people are like way too comfortable and even me dude
This is my only social media. Like if twitter disappeared tomorrow, i'd be i'd be fucked
This is my only social media. Like if Twitter disappeared tomorrow, I'd become I'd be fucked
It's so funny because we've been talking about this for two years. They're just like I've done nothing to move off platform
It's so funny because we've been talking about this for two years. It's just like i've done nothing to move off platform
It's kind of hilarious. I
All right, I kind of think though that like the take like yeah, first of all, it's not a hot take
Kind of think though they're like the take like yeah, first of all, it's not a hot take
It was like a mild mango habanero
It was like a mild mango habanero style take I also think like I I hear you on the Twitter crutch thing
Style take I also think like all right
I hear you on the twitter crutch thing. I don't feel like twit like
I don't feel like what like Twitter is not
The NFT community the NFT community just like happens to like reside on Twitter
The nft community the nft community just like happens to like reside on twitter
But it isn't like it isn't the fact that like we're all here
But it isn't like it isn't the fact that like we're all here
Just like without dicks in our hands waiting for elon to like make some announcement or not
Just like without dicks in our hands waiting for Elon to like make some announcement or not
Like I think it's very much the case. I like if we got kicked off a Twitter to go somewhere else cuz like to be fair
Like I think it's very much the case like if we got kicked off of twitter to go somewhere else because like to be fair
Someone just DM me this. I don't know who it is
Someone just dm me this I don't know who it is
I can't give you credit but they were like people were rocking NFT profile pictures on Clubhouse before I need this shit
But there were like people were rocking nft profile pictures on clubhouse before I need this shit
Like I definitely don't think like you are right that
Like I definitely don't think like you are right that
There's a very concentrated
There's a very concentrated percentage of like ct
Percentage of like CT or I guess it's literally crypto Twitter
Or I guess it's literally crypto twitter, but the crypto community on twitter
But the crypto community on Twitter, but definitely is it the case that we like a need Twitter like I I fucking need it
But definitely is it the case that we like need twitter?
I'll tell you what if I lost what I'd be sick to my stomach
I'll tell you what if I lost would I be sick to my stomach?
But it definitely isn't the case that we like need Twitter and please God don't make us go to lens
But definitely isn't the case that we like need twitter and please god don't make us go to lens
Because things are gonna get a little bit ugly there. All right, let's do this
Because things are gonna get a little bit ugly there. All right, let's do this
I won't go with the day that we gotta talk about our boy actually leaps boy Tate for a minute
I want to go with the day then we gotta talk about our boy. Uh actually leaps boy tate for a minute
I'm gonna talk about some meme coins. Good boy. Hey, what's good, baby? What do you think?
I'm gonna talk about some meme coins. Good boy. Hey, what's good, baby? What do you think? No?
No, I just wanted to say uh going back to like to the nft and like the price and all that shit
Going back to like to the NFT and like the price and all that shit
I think people fall in love with like the founders
I think people fall in love with like the founders. That's what it like
That's what it like it's the same shit of like this is my own opinion
It's the same shit of like this is my own opinion
But like I feel like tesla wouldn't be tesla without elon, right?
But like I feel like Tesla wouldn't be Tesla without Elon
right and like bored a Yacht Club wouldn't be bored a Yacht Club without Gordo, right and it's just like
And like borday bjakkla wouldn't be borday bjakkla without gordo, right? And it's just like
De-gods with frank like people start to fucking cult that shit and you know you you start to like like
Be so fucking bullish on that founder and then you know
On that founder and then you know you you start to to preach the craft of cultness, right?
You start to to preach the craft of cultness right and that and just goes on like a web
And that and and just goes on like a web
So that's that's how I feel about like, I don't know the action of like these NFT projects
So that that's how I feel about like, I don't know the action of like these nft projects
Okay, I think it's back. Um, I mean that's why the cult is I mean really the best founders of cult leaders
Okay, I think it's not I mean that's why the cult is I mean really the best founders of cult leaders
Also, I've been saying it's like three spaces in a row
Also, i've been saying it's like three spaces in a row. I want to cult so bad
I want to cult so bad and I really want to run a cult that's gonna get clipped take it out of context
Like I really want to run a cult that's gonna get clipped take it out of context when I kind of mean it. Um
Beat that what's up? You don't like that take
Beat that what's up? You don't like that take
No, I'm for that take man. I'm here for the cult
No, i'm for that take man. I'm here for the cult
I'm full follow-up question for Jay because that's something I've been thinking about a lot as well and
Um, i'm for follow-up question for jay because that's something i've been thinking about a lot as well
And with respect to like the various types of projects then is the logical conclusion from that line of thinking
With respect to like the various types of projects then is the logical conclusion from that line of thinking that any project that doesn't have
That any project that doesn't have
Like a vocal leader that's on the front line in spaces
Like a vocal leader that's on the front line in spaces communicating properly like all the time
Communicating properly like all the time is that is the logical conclusion that if your project is that way without that type of founder
Is that is the logical conclusion that if your project is that way without that type of founder then you're just doomed
Then you're just doomed. Is that what we're thinking? Yeah, there's two things, right?
Is that what we're thinking? Yeah, there's two things, right?
There's only there's one as a like i've seen it in other projects where you have that one bullish motherfucker
There's only there's one as a like I've seen it in other projects where you have that one bullish motherfucker that will ride
That will ride everybody within the project or you have the founder, right?
Everybody within the project or you have the founder, right?
Uh two of those people make the project relevant that you know starts to go into like a spider like a domino effect, right?
Two of those people make the project relevant that you know starts to go into like a spider like a domino effect, right?
I just feel like if the project's silent and really not doing quote-unquote
I just feel like if the project's silent and really not doing quote unquote building behind like building enclosed doors
Building behind like building enclosed doors. I mean, it's just like a doomsday. You just have to be as loud as possible
I mean, it's just like a doomsday. You just have to be as loud as possible
That's what like this. This is everybody says this is a tension economy, right?
That's what it's like this. This is everybody says this is a tension economy, right?
So if you're not loud and you're not doing shit, how are people gonna be bullish about your project, you know?
So if you're not loud and you're not doing shit, how are people going to be bullish about your project, you know?
Yeah, that makes sense like you could literally this would be such a reasonably easy
Yeah, that makes sense like you could literally this would be such a reasonably easy
Analysis to do like you can just write down all the project names the one or two main founders give them like a
Analysis to do like you could literally write down all the project names the one or two main founders give them like a
Some kind of rating out of ten how loud they are in the timeline and just like correlate it with
Some kind of rating out of ten how loud they are in the timeline and just like correlate it with
Law price I bet you could do this analysis like really really
Law price. I bet you could do this analysis like really really
Easily, it's a good direct fucking correlation. There has to be a fucking direct correlation
Easily, it's a good thing. There's a direct correlation. There has to be a fucking direct correlation
Um, and I mean we've seen it we've we've absolutely seen it in fucking 4k
And we've seen it. We've absolutely seen it in fucking 4k
It's I mean it's a huge reason. I think pudgy penguins were able to turn the ship around and make no mistake about it
I mean, it's a huge reason. I think pudgy penguins were able to turn the ship around and make no mistake about it
They did a lot of other stuff in the background
They did a lot of other stuff in the background
But there was a like time
But there was a like time
Where pudgy was like doing whatever pudgy was doing and then Luca went on this like media tour for like four weeks
Where pudgy was like doing whatever pudgy was doing and then luka went on this like media tour for like four weeks
Went to every single Twitter space every single podcast you are a media tour then all of a sudden every single person's like
Went to every single twitter space every single podcast. You are a media tour. Then all of a sudden every single person's like oh
It was pretty crazy also that was do not clip that one
It was pretty crazy also that was do not clip that one
Um, but it was pretty fucking crazy. All right, look
But it was pretty fucking crazy. All right, look
Really? I guess a couple things
I guess a couple things. Um
First of all pick them on just like what the fuck is going on with pick them on what when did like
First of all pixelmon just like what the fuck is going on with pixelmon? What when did like
What dude did you see I'm gonna flip? Yeah, I'm speechless as well
What dude did you see i'm gonna flip yeah i'm speechless as well
Did you see all of the specific people who are in on this round? I did
Did you see all of the specific people who are in on this round? I did I fucking did same
I fucking did insane. It's like every single huge hitter every single one
It's like every single huge hitter every single one
Is that something we should take away and be be bullish on like oh shit they got like someone
Is that something we should take away and be be bullish on like oh shit
They got like someone's like you know, they got ray in the round. They got yachtsu in the round
Ray in the round. They got yachts do in the round like that's something we should look at
Like that's something we should look at as like wait for pixelmon
Pixel on yeah, they're dead. I mean now they're gonna make a game better than pal world, you know
Yeah, they're dead. I mean now they're gonna make a game better than pal world, you know
Bro, I'm playing power world right now
Bro, i'm playing power world right now. I gotta hate those takes though
Hate those takes though cuz like all right
I kind of hate those takes bad brother actually because there was there was a the take as well
I kind of hate those takes bad brother actually because there was there was a the take as well
That was like when power world first first of all, I haven't played power world in like two weeks
That was like when power world first first of all, I haven't played power world in like two weeks
I don't know what happened. I was like obsessed that I like haven't touched it. Um
I don't know what happened. I was like obsessed that I like haven't touched it
There was this like strong
There was this like strong
sentiment on the timeline that was like oh
Sentiment on a timeline that was like Oh
Power being successful is like a bullish for pixel mom
Power being successful is like bullish for pixelmon. It's like objectively not like it is not bullish pixelmon
It's like objectively not it is not bullish pixel mom like it
Like it it's like bullish for the like genre of game
It's like bullish for the like genre of game
But like power world didn't fucking power world pixelmon didn't fucking invent like monster hunting
But like power world didn't fucking power world pixel on didn't fucking invent like monster hunting video games
video games like it just didn't and I
But it just didn't and I there's there's zero correlation between power world being good and pixel mom being successful
There's zero correlation between power world being good and pixelmon being successful
There's literally zero correlation like you cannot convince me. Otherwise, it's like power world is its own independent good game
There's literally zero correlation like you cannot convince me otherwise
It's like power world is its own independent good game pixel bonds gonna have to be its own independent good game
Pixelmon is gonna have to be its own independent good game
I guess my question for you beach that is like
I guess my question for you beach check is like
As a retail trader am I supposed to see this like this this?
As a retail trader, am I supposed to see this like this this?
announcement look at the the people would evolve and be like oh shit yatsu like oh shit ray
Announcement look at the the people would evolve and be like, oh shit. Yeah, too. Like oh shit Ray meme land
Memeland like i'm getting i'm buying the nfts or is it very much the case that like these motherfuckers invest in everything
Like I'm getting I'm buying the NFTs or is it very much the case that like these motherfuckers invest in everything
Like what that doesn't actually hold any weight, especially on a floor price of these NFTs
Like what like doesn't actually hold any weight, especially on the floor price of these nfts
The main thing I thought is that and this is the honest thing
Is that and this is the honest thing I thought I thought should they?
I thought I thought should they specifically like those investors are gonna make so much money
Specifically like those investors are going to make so much money
That's the main thing I thought
That's the main thing I thought
Which is not to do with the NFT themselves right because
Which is not to do with the nfts themselves, right because
You just think that look if it's got that much backing they've got they've gotten at a really nice entry point
You just think that look if it's got that much backing they've got they've gotten at a really nice entry point
Yes, they might have a particular cliff. Yes, they'll be they'll be vesting over a period of time
Yes, they might have a particular cliff
Yes, they'll be they'll be vesting over a period of time
But everyone else is gonna think and maybe rightly so
But everyone else is going to think and maybe rightly so i'm not saying that they shouldn't think this
I'm not saying that they shouldn't think this but everyone else is going to look at it and think wow all of those things
But everyone else is going to look at it and think wow all of those things
That token will be a good token because yes, you know
That token will be a good token because yes, you know, that's how they get their liquidity
That's how they get their liquidity and they just like my main thought was just like shit. They're gonna make a shit
And they just like my main thought was just like shit. They're gonna make a shit
I don't know about the nfts. Yeah, I mean it's very much the case where it's like all right
Like 21 22 and a fuck ton of empty projects were raising it slowed down a lot 23 now
Like 2122 and a fuck ton empty projects were raising it slowed down a lot 23 now
It's kind of back tappered wizards pixel monitors announced it. Whatever it is. It's like very much the case though
It's kind of backtappered Wizards pixel monitors announced it. Whatever it is. It's like very much the case though
At least in my eyes. They're like, yes, they raised money. They have a runway now
They're like, yes, they raised money. They have they have runway now they can hire they can build they can they can build a better game
They can hire they can build they can make it build a better game
Whatever it is, but doesn't like necessarily mean the money's gonna flow back to the nft holders like whatsoever
Whatever it is, but it's like necessarily me and the money's gonna flow back to the NFT holders like what so ever
Right. I think that that's where it gets lost in the sauce. Sometimes. It's like the the people invested are not the NFT holders
Right. I think that that sort of gets lost in the sauce sometimes
I'm just like the the people invested are not the nft holders
The fucking investors is a completely different ball game
But it definitely is the case like oh if they raise token is coming and it's about a cup
But it definitely is the case like oh if they raise token is coming and it's about a cup
I got that for that's a for sure like a force shit show token is inevitable and it's gonna come
Like that that's that's a for sure like a forced shit show token is inevitable. Uh, and it's gonna cut
I mean, what do you think we check?
I mean, what do you think we check?
I think that is definitely the case and I think people have known that about picks a month for so long for quite a while
I think that is definitely the case and I think people have known that about pixel 1 for so long for quite a while
And that's why the NFT itself has gone up in price for so long for quite a while because they know there's gonna be a token
And that's why the nft itself has gone up in price for so long for quite a while because they know there's going to be
A token attached to it. They're going to get a nice. I don't know pre-sale or allocation
Attached to it. They're gonna get a nice. I don't know pre-sale or allocation
Uh or whatever. So I think that is definitely the case
Or whatever. So I think that is definitely the case and I had one more thing to say
Um, I had one more thing to say. Oh, the other thing I was going to say is that we actually had julio the ceo
Oh, the other thing I was gonna say is that we actually had julio the CEO of pick someone on our show on our show
Of pixel 1 on our on our show two days ago. I think
Um, this announcement hadn't come out yet, but we were just chatting through
That this announced I haven't come out yet, but we were just chatting through
Uh some of their other major partnerships recently because they they joined up with play ember and they've announced they're building like two
Some of their other major partnerships recently because they they joined up with play ember and they've announced they're building like two
Hyper casual games. I wasn't one hyper casual game or two. I can't remember exactly
Hyper-casual games. I wasn't one hyper casual game or two. I can't remember exactly
But just speaking to that previous point we're talking about with Jay just like the guy sounded
But just speaking to that previous point we were talking about with j
Just like the guy sounded fantastic
Fantastic. He was like really smart really switched on like great takes great thoughts like properly giving it to the audience
He was like really smart really switched on like great takes great thoughts like properly giving it to the audience
You know that is obviously gonna be far more indicative than like this
You know that is obviously going to be far more indicative than like this. Well
Well, what did this whole picture all things considered coming together? I think does
This whole picture all things considered coming together. I think does
Bode well for them. Yeah, here's my thing though
Yeah, here here's my thing though
I this is part of reason I'm so fucking just like bearish on utility
I this is part of reason i'm so fucking just like bearish on utility
Is anything pump NFT prices except for a fucking token like seriously?
Is anything pump nft prices except for a fucking token like seriously?
Like what does anything pump pump for price except for token announcement like seriously
Like what does anything pump pump for price except for token announcement like seriously
They were we're we're talking about we're talking about all these toke
Like we're we're we're talking about picks come on
We're talking about all these tokens like does anything pop the fucking floor price except for a token announcement?
I guess anything pop the fucking floor price except for a token announcement and
And honestly if you've already launched a token your collection launched a token 2122
Honestly, if you've already launched a token your collection launched a token 2122
Why the fuck would I buy the energy right now? Like genuinely i'm not even trying to be bearish like straight up
Why the fuck would I buy the energy right now? Like genuinely? I'm not even trying to be bearish like straight up
There's unless you're like a completely
There's unless you're like a completely
Art centric community CC zero no utility whatever and he just like pump on vibes
Art centric community cc zero no utility whatever and he just like pump on vibes
Which I generally stay away from I bought puppets. I I talk about puppets. I like the puppets dude
Which I generally stay away from I bought puppets. I I talk about puppets. I like the puppets, dude
I'm, sorry, but like outside of a few anomaly like rare examples
I'm sorry, but like outside of a few anomaly like rare examples
What is pumping floor price other than token plus you know the craziest part about it is to me as well. It's like
What is pumping floor price other than token plus you know, the craziest part about it is to me as well is like
Everyone the news is always leaked like every one of these it happened every yuga pump every yuga pump this happened
Everyone the news is always leaked like every one of these I happen every you go pump every you go pump this happen
You go with like fly it from 200% 300% and like a week later would come out like oh, there's an airdrop coming
You go with like fly and pump 200 300 percent and like a week later it would come out like oh
There's an airdrop coming. Oh, there's a token coming. Whatever it is
Oh, there's a token coming whatever it is
Like it's kind of ridiculous that everybody knows but in the background before the public knows the floor price pumps
Like it's kind of ridiculous that everybody knows
But in the background before the public knows the floor price pumps and it's never an organic pump
It's never an organic pump. It's like only on the back end of a fucking token announcement
It's like only on the back end of a fucking token announcement
It's kind of ridiculous if we're being like it genuinely it's kind of ridiculous that we can't pump on anything else
It's kind of ridiculous if we're being like it genuinely it's kind of ridiculous that we can't pump on anything else
I'm gonna play the game make no mistake about it. I'm gonna play the fucking game
I'm gonna play the game make no mistake about it. I'm gonna play the fucking game
I'm gonna buy my NFPs are gonna get me tokens
I'm gonna buy my nfp that are gonna get me tokens
But it's kind of fuck like you cannot look at me with a straight face and be like utility matters
But it's kind of like you cannot look at me with a straight face and be like utility matters
And then the only thing that can pop up for prices a fucking token like it's kind of I mean, what do you think be check?
And then the only thing that can pop up for price is a fucking token. Like it's kind of I mean, what do you think?
Be check, it's kind of crazy
Yeah, it's interesting. I was in this conversation earlier
Yeah, it's interesting. I was in this conversation earlier
in this space with a bunch of tokenomics experts one of them was the head of
A bunch of tokenomics experts. One of them was the head of tokenomics at animoca
But they were all just going around like giving their thoughts on tokenomics and various thing and there's a question right at the end of
But they were all just going around like giving their thoughts on tokenomics and various things
And there was a question right at the end of it, which I thought was really interesting
It which I thought was really interesting and the question was like if you are building in web 3 and this was a question to this
And the question was like if you are building in web 3 and this was a question to this panel
Panel if you are building in web 3 like is the token like the inevitable outcome?
If you are building in web 3 like is the token like the inevitable outcome?
like from an investor like because you know, they're talking about vesting schedules and investors and how they're supposed to get a liquidity like
like from an investor like because you know, they're talking we were talking about vesting schedules and
investors and how they're supposed to get the liquidity like
It is the token the inevitable outcome and if you're building a product
It is the token the inevitable outcome
And if you're building a product do you have to do a token in order even to get investment?
Do you have to do a token in order even to get investment?
Is that basically what you have to do if you're building them up three and the answer from a couple of them was in essence?
Is that basically what you have to do if you're building a web 3 and the answer from a couple of them was in essence?
Like the token is the way that you will get and you will attract investment and then but then the question was okay
Like the token is the way that you will get you will attract investment
And then but then the question was okay. Well, if we don't do a token
Well, if we don't do a token, what can we do to attract investment?
What can we do to attract investment?
And the answer to that was like fairly straightforward. It's like well
And the answer to that was like fairly straightforward
It's like well, you're a web 2 business then and you just need to create an amazing product
You're a web 2 business then and you just need to create an amazing product
uh all service like very straightforward amazing product or service
or service like very straightforward amazing product or service and
And then you can attract investment that way, but if you're like building for web 3 their instinct from that conversation
Then you can attract investment that way but if you're like building for web 3 their instinct from that conversation
Was yes, that is the inevitable outcome. That's the direction you'll go in. So that's like
That is the inevitable outcome. That's the direction you'll go in. So that's like
It's not like what is that like do more bearish or is it?
Is that like doom or bearish or is it?
Don't know it was just interesting. I haven't like fully processed it
I don't know. It was just interesting. I haven't like fully processed it
I wanted to think about it more because i've been thinking about it a lot recently but
I wanted to think about it more because I've been thinking about it a lot recently
but it does seem like an inevitability at the moment for the people who are building directly in web 3 and
It does seem like an inevitability at the moment for the people who are building directly in web 3
And if you want to try to look even talk about it from my perspective personal perspective
If you want to try to look even talk about it from my perspective personal perspective
We run a media company obviously and it's like a web. Well, it's not a web 3
We run a media company obviously
And it's like a web through well, it's not a web 3. There's nothing like web 3 about it
There's nothing like web 3 about it. It's just we operate in web 3
It's just we operate in web 3
So I think personally that puts us outside of that bracket because I don't like I don't know why we would do a token
That puts us outside of that bracket because I don't like I don't know why we would do a token
You saw like Bankless do a token for example, right?
You saw like bankless do a token for example, right and it's just been down only forever
And it's been down only forever and it's like got completely completely wrecked
And it's like got completely completely wrecked. I see us as a media company
I see us as a media company who operate in web 3
Who operate in web 3 but we're not like building for web 3 as such
But we're not like building for web 3 as such
We're just like a media company that makes money and like our model will be to make money like profit and you know
We're just like a media company that makes money and like our model will be to make money like profit and you know
Just a normal quality business
Um, so I don't think that's necessary but if you're building a product that's more
So I don't think that's necessary. But if you're building a product that's more web 3 like native like protocols
Web 3 like native like protocols
Um, you know even nft project. It seems like that's the way
You know even NFT project it seems like that's the way
It's going. I don't know I haven't fully processed whether it's good or bad or not
It's going. I don't know. I haven't fully processed whether it's good or bad or not
But I do think even from a a a team perspective if you want to attract investment
It's just interesting to have that conversation to try to figure out like
It's just interesting to have that conversation to try to figure out like damn
Damn, is this really an inevitability or or not?
Is this really an inevitability or or not?
And I and one thing one really interesting statistic is the last thing I'll say is someone said one of the experts said like if you look
And I and one thing one really interesting statistic is the last thing i'll say
Is someone said one of the experts said like if you look at coin gecko or one of the things
At coin gecko or one of the things 50% of all tokens that have ever been created are just dead now
50 of all tokens that have ever been created
I would think it'd be higher
Well, yeah, so it's like something in that region, but that's the point, right?
Well, yeah, so it's like something in that region, but that's the point, right?
So in that sense, if we're saying that it's an inevitability
So in that sense if we're if we're saying that it's an inevitability
We're saying that 50% of all things are just going to go to zero and that is bearish, right?
We're saying that 50 percent
Of all things are just going to go to zero and that is bearish, right?
Like I can't be a good thing that we're saying that the thing that is inevitable is
Like that can't be a good thing that we're saying that the thing that is inevitable
That 50% of things will just die or maybe I'm just thinking about this live. Maybe
Is that 50 percent of things will just die or maybe i'm just thinking about this live. Maybe
That's just how business works and 50% or more things do die and
That's just how business works and 50 or more things do die
And maybe some people get a chance to make a lot of money on the way up and then it just dies. Um, I don't know
Maybe some people get a chance to make a lot of money on the way up and then it just dies
Um, I don't know why would I mean, honestly, why would token not be like the end goal?
Why would I mean honestly why would token not be like the end goal use from a media perspective?
He was from a media perspective
Like I haven't really thought about it that hard
I haven't really thought about it that hard
But like why would that not be where this this road leads to every spaces host on Twitter like how like in my opinion
But like why would that not be where this this road leads to every space is hosted on twitter like how like in my opinion
There's no outcome in which like a couple years down the line every single one hasn't launched a token
There's no outcome in which like a couple years down the line every single one hasn't launched a token
Cuz it's like that that's like the direction this shit is going like look at like every like I was doing a
Because this is like that
That's like the direction this shit is going like look at like every
Like I was doing a um, I was doing a little interview yesterday on the side
I was doing a little interview yesterday on the side
We're just talking about tokens and like where this is going like bro. There are people on the timeline founders influencers, whoever
tweeting microcaps and tickers
tweeting microcaps and tickers
That two years ago you would not in a million fucking years ever imagine
That two years ago you would not in a million fucking years ever imagine
They would even utter those words in other mouths like that's like the direction this is going
They would even utter those words in other mouth like that's like the direction this is going
Maybe for the better like maybe for the better maybe for the worst quite frankly doesn't matter cuz it's happening like the horse
Maybe for the better like maybe for the better maybe for the worst quite frankly
It doesn't matter because it's happening like the the horse that already left the station
Nobody left left the station
This is the direction we're going where every single person is gonna have their own like shit coins or meme coins
This is the direction we're going where every single person is going to have their own like shit coins or meme coins
We completely lean into it everyone like everyone's an awful caller on a timeline now
We completely lean into it. Everyone like everyone's an alpha caller on a timeline now
It's also what's a bull market. So everyone's a fucking genius. I
It's also it's a bull market. So everyone's a fucking genius
I sort of feel like it's like inevitable that every media entity in web3 goes this direction because here's
Sort of feel like it's like inevitable that every media entity in web 3 goes this direction
Cuz here's here's like the brute reality is you have a competitive advantage if you do and you're at a disadvantage if you don't
Here's like a brute reality
Is you have a competitive advantage if you do and you're at a disadvantage if you don't?
But do you remember when Ryan Carson was doing Twitter spaces? Look, I make fun of Ryan
But do you remember when ryan karson was doing twitter spaces?
Look, I make fun of ryan. I shit on ryan karson every day
I shit on Ryan Carson every day
But the reality situation was he changed the fucking game and showed it takes literally nothing
But the reality situation was he changed the fucking game and showed it takes literally nothing
To get like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of extra people in your space to join for a poab at the chance of maybe one
To get like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of extra people in your space to join for a po-app
At the chance of maybe one day getting a chance
Day getting a chance at a project or a mint that doesn't even exist yet
Add a project or a mint that doesn't even exist yet
Just a chance to maybe get a chance to maybe get a chance and like bro people would flock into that motherfucker
Just a chance to maybe get a chance to maybe get a chance and like bro people would flock
Into that motherfucker like the great migration bro. They would flock in there like I don't really see a scenario
Like the great migration bro. They would flock in there. Like I don't really see a scenario
And what's a couple years down the line every single media entity in web 3 whether it's like a an NFT now
And with a couple years down the line every single media entity in web3 whether it's like a
An nft now slash rug radio like a large company or an individual like a bee check or a leap or whoever
It's like a rug radio like a large company or an individual like a bee check or a leap or whoever
Doesn't end up with a fucking token. I feel like you had a comparative disadvantage if you don't I mean, what do you think about?
Doesn't end up with a fucking token. I feel like you had a comparative disadvantage if you don't I mean
What do you think about that take am I off here?
That's it. Look, it's a great conversation
That's it. Look it's a great conversation
But this is this is where my perspective slash philosophy comes from like I used to be a teacher before I was a lawyer
But this is this is where my perspective slash philosophy comes from
Like I used to be a teacher before I was a lawyer
I was a teacher in the secondary school like a difficult secondary school taught like 11 to 16 year olds for three years
I was a teacher in the secondary school like a difficult secondary school
talk like 11 to 16 year olds for three years and there were certain teachers in this like challenging environment who would
And there were certain teachers in this like challenging environment
In order to incentivize people
In order to incentivize people
Give them things like give them a suite if they do well
Give them things like give them a suite if they do well
You have a box of chocolates in the classroom
And if they do something good, then you get one of those things or you know
Then you get one of those things or you know, you set like competitions up like that
You set like competitions up like that
Like that's one that is one way to go about it
Like that's one that is one way to go about it
Like you have that carrot that someone's always chasing thinking we're going to get something
Like you have that carrot that someone's always chasing thinking we're gonna get something
My philosophy after seeing other people set up their classrooms and their leadership styles
My philosophy after seeing other people set up their classrooms and their leadership styles. I learned that it's completely possible
I learned that it's completely possible to get people to do things and learn things and want to be they want to be somewhere
To get people to do things and learn things and want to be they want to be somewhere
Love and enjoyment of doing something and I think based on my three years experience
Love and enjoyment of doing something and I think based on my three years experience there
There is that when you go for those kind of short-term incentive structures, that's exactly what they are
Is that when you go for those kind of short-term incentive structures, that's exactly what they are
They're short-term like you can yeah, of course you can get people in
Speculating like oh, yeah, if you come in and you do this po-app and you know
If you come in and you do this pull up and you know, you're gonna you you know
You're gonna you you know, maybe you're gonna get something next month. Maybe you're gonna get something
Maybe you're gonna get something next month. Maybe you're gonna get something maybe maybe maybe maybe and then where's we're at Ryan Carson now
Maybe maybe maybe maybe and then where's we're at Ryan Carson now
Okay, so so like this is the thing like if you and just think of what superpower and this is our approach how I've been building
Okay, so so like this is the thing like if you and just think of what superpower and this is our approach how i've been building
What a market we've gone from like nothing to more than 100 250 library morning like with zero incentives
Modern market we've gone from like nothing to more than 100 250 live every morning
Like with zero incentives how much of a more superpower is that in my opinion because people are coming without any incentive?
How much of a more superpower is that in my opinion because people are coming without any incentive?
Like that is the foundation that I want to start from that's what we worked really super really hard to build
Like that is the foundation that I want to start from that's what we worked really super really hard to build
So look now if I want to throw some incentives on top of it like throw some fire on top of it
So look now if I want to throw some incentives on top of it
Like throw some fire on top of it
Maybe I can think about that
Maybe I can think about that
But I want to do it like really really thoughtfully because I don't want to wreck that
But I want to do it like really really thoughtfully because I don't want to wreck that community of people who are like genuinely there
Community of people who are like genuinely there
For like for the content and I think that we can be in a world where people just enjoy the content and don't need an
For like for the content and I think that we can be in a world where people just enjoy the content and don't need
An incentive on top. Okay a couple things first of all, I think you're very right
Incentive on top. Okay a couple things first of all
I think you're very right the organic view organic audience is stick stickier and I think your foundation has to be built upon that
The organic audience is stick stickier and I think your foundation has to be built upon that
I also think not everything has to have token attached
I also think not everything has to have token attached
But it is it's like it is that's where we're going like the only reason like the difference between what marketplace
But it is it's like it is that's where we're going like the only reason like the difference between what marketplace
I use is which one I can farm an airdrop like the difference between which swap or which decks or which sex
I use is which one it I can farm an airdrop like the difference between which swap or which decks or what sex I
Can use is like which one has a fucking airdrop and the reality situation is even if you have a hundred and fifty concurrent
I can use is like which one has a fucking airdrop and the reality situation is
Even if you have 150 concurrent listeners every day that are die hard only there for the content
Listeners every day that are diehard only there for the content
If somebody else at the exact same time as your space has a hundred and fifty listeners as well and they introduce a fucking token
If somebody else at the exact same time as your space has 150 listeners as well and they introduce the fucking token
You're at it. You're at a distance objectively at a disadvantage. Like you are you just like objectively are I a hundred percent agree?
You are at it. You're at a disadvantage objectively at a disadvantage like you are you just like objectively are
I 100 agree that it isn't something you should like rush into and also this is not like thread guide token announcement
Russian to and also this is not like thread guide token announcement like we like make myself very clear
Like we like make myself very clear. Although, you know, definitely like don't forget to retweet this face, you know
Although you know, definitely like don't forget to retweet the space, you know
Definitely isn't thread guide token announcement nor is it something I have any interest in doing anytime soon
Definitely isn't thread guide token announcement
Nor is it something I I have any interest in doing anytime soon, but i'm sort of just like
but I'm sort of just like
Looking at where the space is going looking at my you know
Looking at where the space is going looking at my you know
Favorite kol's for a lack of better term the things that they're talking about and what they're willing to tweet versus what they were
Favorite KOLs for a lack of a better term the things that they're talking about and what they're willing to tweet versus what they were
Willing to tweet a year ago two years ago and just like so bluntly clear to me. We are
Willing to tweet a year ago two years ago, and it's like so bluntly clear to me. We are
Fucking nose diving down this path and there's really no way out
Fucking nose diving down this path and there's really no way out
There's really no way out and it honestly if you could like you couldn't stop it if you wanted to and honestly if you could stop
Like there's really no way out and it honestly if you could like you couldn't stop it if you wanted to and honestly
If you could stop it, why would you?
It's gonna get fucking crazy. It's gonna be chaotic as shit
It's gonna get fucking crazy. It's gonna be chaotic as shit
There's gonna be so many things that end poorly
There's gonna be so many things that end poorly
but it definitely is the case that like the incentivizing via tokens is
But it definitely is the case that like the incentivizing via tokens is
It's I mean even just like looking at what jupiter like what you have on jupiter and shit
I mean even just like looking at what Jupiter like what you have with Jupiter and shit
It's just like so obvious to me. This is the direction we're going you are right
It's just like so obvious to me. This is the direction we're going you are right?
Like where is Ryan Carson now to be fair?
Like where is ryan karson now to be fair?
I don't think Ryan Carson lost because of the POAP thing
I don't think ryan karson lost because of the poep thing
I think there was like other external factors point is still valid point is very much still valid
I think there was like other external factors point is still valid point is is very much still valid
but it's just like is the case where if I'm like like if I'm live right now with
But it's just like is the case where if i'm like like if i'm live right now with
Uh 181 concurrent and somebody else is live with 181 concurrent and they fucking announced the token
181 concurrent and somebody else is live with 181 concurrent and they fucking announced the token
I promise you i'm not winning that competitive race. I mean b check i'll throw it to you. We'll go to j
I promise you I'm not winning that competitive race. I mean beat like I'll throw it to you. We'll go to Jay
I mean, what do you think?
I mean, what do you think?
Yeah, your point about like a direct a literal direct head-to-head is an interesting one and
Yeah, your point about like a direct a literal direct head to head is an interesting one
Um, i'd need to think about that a little bit more, but the the key difference I think between
I'd need to think about that a little bit more, but the key difference I think between
Centralized exchanges indexes and products like all of those things have no
Centralized exchanges and DEXs and products like all of those things have no
Like personality to them which builds up like a significant amount of loyalty to you
Like personality to them which builds up like a significant amount of loyalty to you
But the difference between us and them is that you have like your specific personality
but the difference between us and them
You have like your specific personality you have your specific relationships with like multiple people not just on the stage
You have your specific relationships with like multiple people not just on the stage
But even people in the audience people DM you you respond you bring up things that they've said you're interacting with them on the timeline
But even people in the audience people dm you you respond you bring up things that they've said you're interacting with them on the timeline
It's back and forth over and over again. You don't get that
It's back and forth over and over again. You don't get that. Well, maybe you get up from jupiter with this meow guy
Well, maybe you get up from Jupiter with this meow guy
Who's just like electric on the timeline and in shows as well?
Who's just like electric on the timeline and in shows as well
So maybe he's gonna completely flip the game like that
So maybe he's going to completely flip the game like that
But in general from the product you don't get that and so I think that's a key differentiating factor
But in general from the product you don't get that and so I think that's a key differentiating factor
Between like why people would find it really really hard to swap from you TG and why okay fine
Between like why people would find it really really hard to swap from you
And why okay fine someone's going to offer them a token but think about this tg
Someone's gonna offer them a token but think about this TD
Okay, someone someone comes up against you this time slot every single day and they say they're gonna have a token
Okay, someone someone comes up against you this time slot every single day and they say they're going to have a token
But you've been doing this for ages. You've built up your audience over time
But you've been doing this for ages. You've built up your audience over time
You've got like a reputation you've built a whole business off the back of it if you were to launch token
You've got like a reputation you've built a whole business off the back of it
If you were to launch token, it would actually be worth something if someone else launches something from nothing
It would actually be worth something if someone else launches something from nothing
Why would someone move over there's absolutely no guarantee that this random person creating this random thing is worth anything
Why would someone move over? There's absolutely no guarantee
That this random person creating this random thing is worth anything. Like there's no value. There's no intrinsic value there
Like there's no value. There's no intrinsic value that
Unless that person is a good person already. It's a good take
It's a good take it's also the case that like if I if I announce the token right now
It's also the case that like if I if I announce the token right now, I promise you i'm not flipping joe rogan numbers
I promise you I'm not flipping Joe Rogan numbers. It's also the case that it could quite literally
It's also the case that it could quite literally
Destroy everything if you do it wrong cc our favorite free marketeers, right? Like it does not end well if you
Destroy everything if you do it wrong CC our favorite free marketeers, right? Like it does not end well if you
Don't play right. It's like straight
Don't play right? It's like straight up. It's straight up
Straight up it does not end well if you don't do it, right and if you rush into it
It does not end well if you don't do it, right and if you rush into it
It's for here. Here's I was having this conversation with somebody the other day. I you know, it was Julian
It's toward here. Here's I was having this conversation with someone the other day. Uh, you know, it was julian
There's doodles guy. Well, I asked him
Uh about I said look, you know what? I want to know here
About I said look, you know what? I want to know here
like I'm trying to figure out how to when to buy this doodle like one fucking token and
Like i'm trying to figure out how to when to buy this doodle like one fucking token
We just like went back and forth. He talked about a little bit and I think it's not just answers a good one
And we just like went back and forth. He talked about a little bit and I think it's not just answers a good one
You can always fucking push the deadline back. You can always push it back
You can always fucking push the deadline back. You can always push it back
You can always delay you can always delay you can never
You can always delay you can always delay you can never
Unlaunch the fucking token that you just can't you cannot unlaunch a token once it's launched and I think some of our uh
Unlaunch the fucking token that you just can't you cannot unlaunch a token once it's launched and I think some of our
Her resident friends here found that out the hard way, but it's also that's sort of the
Her resident friends here found that out the hard way, but it's also that's sort of the the
The stopping factor like why you would hesitate a little bit and like think long and hard about this cuz like yes
The stopping factor like why you would hesitate a little bit and like think long and hard about this because like yes
We could just like spit. I mean bro
We could go right now be a btecker right now if it's trolled on the fucking best buy snag a chromebook and have a token
We could go right now be a beat checker right now could stroll down the fucking best buy
Nag a Chromebook and have a token live in like an hour, right?
Live in like an hour, right and nobody would fucking know like let's just be honest
And nobody would fucking know like let's just be honest if you have it live in a little hour
We could have it live in a little hour
But in one hour, bro, that could be like the the fucking domino effect that fucking ruins everything
But in one hour bro, that could be like the the fucking domino effect that fucking ruins everything
So it's very much like it's not a difficulty thing to launch. It's not difficult to launch a token a token
So it's very much like it's not a difficulty thing to launch. It's not difficult to launch a token a token
It's it's leveraged for a guy
It's leveraged try guy. I mean you can use it to go faster and higher
I mean you can use it to go faster and higher
But it goes the other way around it can fuck you up if you do it wrong
But it it goes the other way around it can fuck you up if you do it wrong. It's just leverage for sure
It's just leverage for sure
But I am like positive that every single media entity in this space and like I think we get to a point where I mean
uh, but I am like positive that every single media entity in this space and like I think we get to a point where
Combining solstify, right?
Combining Solstify, right?
But we get to a point like not that far away where every single person in this space that has their own like bongo coin
But we get to a point like not that far away where every single person in this space that has their own like
Bongo coin. It's coming bro. Every media
It's coming bro. Every media
This was an idea floated around back in shit like 2012-2013. We're originally with colored coins. So I mean
This was an idea floated around back in shit like 2012 2013. We're originally with colored coins. So
It's an old idea. I'm just saying also for the little fucking God if you have fucking Solstify platform
It's an old idea. I'm just saying also for the little fucking god
If you have fucking solstify platform and you're not trying to beat the twitter feed and you ask you're building some cool shit
And you're not trying to beat the Twitter feed and you ask you're building some cool shit. Please give me a full
Please give me a phone. I have been hunting trying to find the one i'm like over eight right now
I have been hunting trying to find the one I'm like over eight right now
I'm tired of getting on a fucking phone call if you have the Solstify platform
I'm tired of getting on a fucking phone call
If you have this solstify platform, that's gonna fucking do it friend tech should have done. Please call me bibboy jay
That's gonna fucking do it friend text should have done. Please call me bit boy. Hey, what's up, baby? I
Think we're ahead. It is pretty much like it. Yeah, the social economy. That's what it is
I think where we're headed is pretty much like yeah, the social economy. That's what it is
It's a social currency, but how we're using it today in this economy is just like there's no really use cases
But how we're using it today in this economy is just like there's no really use cases
That's the shit like there's our rails from from like the outside world of crypto does not connect within right?
That's the shit like there's
Our rails from from like the outside world of crypto does not connect within right and it's just like
And it's just like until we figure that out then we'll start to see some bullishness
Until we figure that out then we'll start to see some bullishness
when it comes to buying that token within that collection like
When it comes to buying that token within that collection like
It's you are that closer to your quote-unquote customer or your collector if you can control that currency, right?
It's you are that closer to your quote unquote customer or your collector if you can control that currency, right?
board a Piakla does somewhat good job in that way as their
board a pyaklob does somewhat a good job in that way as their
products as they sell is in their currency, right and
Products as they sell is in their currency, right? And it's just a race of who's willing to
it's just a race of who's willing to
I break the barrier big break the barrier of like new adaptations of new
break the barrier of like new adaptations of new
services or new ways to kind of
Services or new ways to kind of fund your token that people will be more interested in
Fun your token that people will be more interested in
Uh, I was just yeah, i'm thinking through this stuff live as well
Was yeah, I'm thinking through this stuff live as well. I
I I agree. I do agree in some respects that
Do agree in some respect that we're speed-running towards this
We're speed running towards this
There is probably a scenario where many people do this
There is probably a scenario where many people do this. However, by again, my counterpoint
however, but again my counterpoint is well an additional counterpoint to the one that already said is
Is well an additional counterpoint to the ones I've already said is
tokens is just like this new money, right and
tokens is just like is new money, right and
If you look at the world as things stand, there are a bunch of like really
If you look at the world as things stand, there are a bunch of like really
Countries who have economies who cannot manage their own tokens their tokens are their currencies. They're completely out of control and
Countries who have economies who cannot manage their own tokens their tokens are their currencies
They're completely out of control
It's certainly not a straightforward job to do that one of the only tokens in the world that is
It's certainly not a straightforward job to do that one of the only tokens in the world that is
Considered to be like stable more stable is the us dollar and even that is going out of control. Did you say stable?
Considered to be like stable more stable is the US dollar and even that is going out of control
So but as in is universally accepted at a minimum, right?
So but as in is universally accepted at a minimum, right?
Like that's one of the for whatever reason
like that's one of the for whatever reason and
So the hubris of people to think that they're gonna launch like every like everyone's gonna launch a token like no
And so the hubris of people to think that they're going to launch like every like everyone's going to launch a token
Everyone cannot launch that you could do it if you want to
Everyone cannot launch that you could do it if you want to
You can look at other people doing it and like have a big liquidity event if you want to
You can look at other people doing it and like have a big liquidity event if you want to
but as we said earlier 50% or more of tokens have ever been released are dead in the water and
But as we said earlier 50 or more of tokens have ever been released are dead in the water
And if you look at the world as things stand with the currencies as they are right now
If you look at the world as things stand with the currencies as they are right now
Which is just basically money just like your tokens will be money. It's gonna go it's gonna go bad
Which is just basically money just like your tokens will be money
It's gonna go it's gonna go bad. It's gonna go very very bad
It's gonna go very very bad very very quickly because eight nine out of ten people
Very very quickly because eight nine out of ten people cannot sustain an economy by themselves
Cannot sustain an economy by themselves
What about like the token sinks like the usages for the tokens if you go only do like
What about like the token sinks like the usages for the tokens if you can only do like
Like Dookie Dash is a good example like people use quite a bit of tokens
Like dookie dash is a good example
Like people use quite a bit of tokens, but it's like if that's all you can do with it
But it's like if that's all you can do with it
What's the point of like holding on to it? You might as well eat eat it and take the profits
What's the point of like holding on to it? You might as well eat it and take the profits
Yeah, exactly I mean in some way like, you know when the Turkish lira right now is getting absolutely wrecked
Yeah, exactly, I mean in some way like, you know when the turkish lira right now is getting absolutely wrecked
You could say well, what about the the token the token sinks in sense of like, you know
What about the the token the token sinks in sense of like, you know
The people in turkey need it to buy their food and all of that stuff, but somehow it's still not enough, right?
The people in Turkey need it to buy their food and all of that stuff, but somehow it's still not enough, right?
there's just so many factors that go in to the determination of value of money and
there's just so many factors that go in to the determination of value of money and
It's very very complicated and
It's very very complicated
And it's it's just going to be a very very hard job. So I agree with speedrunning to this process
It's it's just gonna be a very very hard job. So I agree with speedlining to this process
I agree that it's one of the best paths for the liquidity for investors and of course investors
I agree that it's one of the best paths for the liquidity for investors
and of course investors are gonna keep pushing for you to have a token because they're gonna be worth something and they're gonna get
Are going to keep pushing for you to have a token because they're going to be worth something and they're going to get out
Out and make a ton of money at the beginning
And make a ton of money at the beginning
But if you're the product creator, you're the token creator and you know
But if you're the product creator, you're the token creator
And you know, you're in this spot that thread guys in or me or whoever and you're thinking like well, how do I do this?
You're in this spot that thread guys in or me or whoever and you're thinking like well, how do I do this?
Mean, I think we're saying we're saying this the right thing
I mean, I think we're saying we're saying the right thing like you've got to think long and hard about it because it's
Like you've got to think long and hard about it because it's definitely not straightforward
Definitely not straightforward
All right, is Andrew Kate launch of this fucking token or not
All right, is answer kate launching this fucking token or not?
No, it was a fucking marketing campaign. So people can sign up more to his fucking club. Come on now
No, it was a fucking marketing campaign so people can sign up more to his fucking club. Come on now
Was that the best marketing campaign you've ever seen it? Yeah that
Was that the best marketing campaign you've ever seen?
Who I fucking like I don't fuck with but I fuck with his team, bro
I fucking like I don't fuck with but I fuck with his team, bro
He's on that point, you know many, you know how many signups he probably got yesterday. I had my fucking group
He's on that point, you know how many you know how many signups he probably got yesterday?
We were looking into buying it and then I had to fucking slap my face and be like, bro
This is just a fucking marketing campaign of just signups, you know, that's how this motherfucker wins. It's just strong-ass marketing
This is just a fucking marketing campaign of just signups, you know, that's how this motherfucker wins. It's just strong ass marketing
So I'm not getting white list of the token. Oh, you just bought his fucking class this circle
So i'm not getting waitlist for the token. No, you just bought his fucking classes circle
Do you think he made more off the tweet than he paid for university.com? Jay?
Do you think he made more off the tweet than he paid for university.com jay?
Yeah, I want to throw right if someone could I could probably
Right if someone could I could probably probably if someone could get those numbers the amount of signups yesterday
Probably if someone could get those numbers the amount of signups yesterday made millions 100 made millions just on one tweet
Made millions 100% made millions just on one tweet
Okay, be second he launched in this fucking token
Okay beat back is he launching this fucking token
Uh doesn't look like it but I was wondering do you think you get twitter?
Doesn't look like it but I was wondering do you think you get Twitter?
Payouts even like from the on the twitter side of things if you then delete the tweet
because you know someone like mr. Beast is obviously making millions as well of his ex videos that he's posting his YouTube videos onto X and
beast is obviously making millions as well off his x videos that he's well, he's posting his youtube videos onto x
And angie's like tweeting something outrageously controversial or you know
And you taste like tweeting something outrageously controversial or you know
This type of marketing material and then it's like I don't know second
This type of marketing material and then it's like oh, hang on a second. I don't actually mean that
I don't actually mean that do you do you get that payout if you delete the tweet after I don't know
Do you do you get that payout if you delete the tweet after I don't know
Yeah, it's a good question. I don't fucking know I would say this if he launches bro
Yeah, it's a good question, I don't fucking know I would say this if he launches bro
If Andrew Tate launches token and actually put a hundred mill of his own. I don't even even have a hundred
If andry tate launches token and actually put 100 mil of his own
I don't even even have 100 mil
How much is it I don't even know
How much does it hit his room?
But who am I to pocket watch cuz I definitely don't have a hundred mill if he launched this token day one it flips
Uh, but who am I to pocket watch because I definitely don't have 100 mil
If he launched this token day one it flips every it probably flips doge, bro
Every it probably flips doge bro. It puts every meme
It flips every meme. I don't know about doge flips every other meme coin
I don't know about doge puts every other meme coin know every single token day one
No, every single token day one like it would fucking literally take a take a shit and piss on with
Like it would fucking literally take a take a shit and pissed on with and all these it would be nuts
And all these it would be nuts
Unironically, it's like it's not gonna happen. I give it like a
Ironically, it's like it's not gonna happen. I give it like a way less than 1% chance
Way less than one percent chance. There's no reason for it to happen. But if it did happen
There's no reason for it to happen, but if it did happen
And seriously played out this way a hundred percent like airdrops to his course
It seriously played out this way a hundred percent like airdropped to to his his course
Members or holders whatever you want to call it and he actually pumped a hundred M's into it
Members or holders whatever you want to call it and he actually pumped 100ms into it
It would be the greatest onboarding event to crypto that's ever happened ever
It would be the greatest onboarding event to crypto that's ever happened ever
bro, it would be the greatest onboarding event in crypto history because you literally have like
bro, it would be the greatest onboarding event in crypto history because you literally have like
Hunt like thousands upon thousands upon thousands like like teenage like kids
Hunt like thousands upon thousands upon thousands like like teenage like kids
That are like into the hole like a red pill like break away from the matrix like fuck the government fuck the banks
That are like into the whole like a red pill like break away from the matrix
Like fuck the government fuck the banks make it like these kids like an inherent inherently like
Make it like these kids like an inherent inherently like get crypto
Get crypto. They just don't know it most likely like but they understand like the ethos in the direction like directionally
They just don't know it most likely like but they understand like the ethos in the direction like directionally
They understand it is this gonna happen, bro
Is this gonna happen bro?
And this about for agitate put like hundreds if not thousands of dollars into thousands
And this is about for agitate put like hundreds if not thousands of dollars into thousands
Of fucking like teenage kids pockets that didn't know anything about crypto had no prior exposure before it would literally be the greatest onboarding event
Fucking like teenage kids pockets that didn't know anything about crypto had no prior exposure before it would literally be the greatest
Onboarding event that's ever happened in crypto history. I don't know what happens after that
That's ever happened in crypto history. I don't know what happens after that. I genuinely don't know what happens after that
I genuinely don't know what happens after that it probably it pulls liquidity thumbs rug
It probably it didn't oppose liquidity thumbs rug, whatever happens happens
Whatever happens happens, but in the fucking moment, it would be the single greatest onboarding event in a history of crypto
But in the fucking moment, it would be the single greatest onboarding event in the history of crypto. I mean jay
I mean Jay, what do you think this?
Listen to this motherfucker launches a coin this thing would go
Listen to this motherfucker launches a coin this thing
I couldn't even fathom like you were talking
Couldn't even fathom like we're talking to the fucking moon like it would flip everything possible
To the fucking moon like it would flip everything possible. Yeah, I totally agree
Yeah, I totally agree. It'd be crazy fucking onboarding, but I don't think he wants to see those repercussions
It'd be crazy fucking onboarding, but I don't think he wants to see those repercussions
About like all the shit that happens after but yeah, I mean that would be probably the most craziest shit ever
About like all the shit that happens after but yeah, I mean that would be probably the most craziest shit ever
I mean come on if we could see fucking
I mean, come on if we could see fucking
The P word and the the Ben word what all that all these all these fucking little fuckers throwing coins
The p word and the the ben word what all
All these all these fucking little fuckers throwing coins out and these things are doing 200 million. Are you talking about fucking tape?
Out and these things are doing 200 million. Are you talking about fucking tea? This thing would do 10 billion plus easy, right?
This thing would do 10 billion plus easy, right?
Did did possibly have an error in the contract or something?
Did an error in the contract or something? It would go to zero and like that would be the end of it. Hey
It would go to zero and like that would be the end of it. Hey
Good boy. Did Paulie really fucking make 15 bill on a three swap on that that pork
Good point. Did pauli really fucking make 15 bill on a three swap on on that that pork?
Here's this is the interesting part about all this shit, right?
Here's this is the interesting part about all this shit, right?
It's just like there is no common fact and that's the point about all this is we can go into
It's just like there is no common fact and that's the the point about all this is
We can go into sleuthing on etherscan and shit like that
sleuthing on etherscan and shit like that and you can't pinpoint the guy it could be
And you can't pinpoint the guy it could be someone else buying that toke now
Someone else buying that toke now if you have an inside of Binance and they're allowed to give the tide fucking account
If you have an inside of binance and they're allowed to give the tide fucking account. Yeah, you can dock that wallet
Yeah, you can dock that wallet
But in that case no one has that fact that that's really his wallet
But in that case no one has that fact that that's really his wallet
So, you know, I didn't realize dude, maybe our bows are for real and not realizing this the real fucking cabal
Also, you know what I didn't realize dude, maybe on bozo for real not realizing this the real fucking cabal
And the M efforts that are making the most I mean like just like disgusting amounts of money or the fucking exchanges, dude
And the mfers that are making the most I mean like just like disgusting amounts of money or the fucking exchanges, dude
Yeah, I told you like I said on tier one is just like it's two million plus like
I told you like I said on tier one is just like it's 2 million plus like the all these like tier twos
All these like tier twos they charge 50 000 and they and they need token allocations and they need token allocation
They charge 50,000 and they and they need token allocations and they need token allocation. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, and then they lift it and it pops
And then they lift it and it pops
And then they pump it and then they dump it but I mean legit it's just like manufacturing and supply for walmart
It's low and then they pump it and then they dump but I mean legit
It's just like manufacturing and supply for walmart
Like if you get a product and it's really good and it goes to walmart
Like if you get a product and it's really good and it goes to walmart
They're going to want x amount of it up front and then you have to hold like uh, I think I did we had to hold
They're gonna want x amount of it up front and then you have to hold like uh, I think I did we had to hold
Ready to ship that we could never sell right?
And so you just cycle out of them. And so the cost on is like you said is never even on the fucking exchange
And so the cost on is like you said is never even on the fucking exchange
It's always like it's always we carry the bag and so like these cyclical
Deevolutions of thought that we call shit coins. It's like really we should build the better system, right?
Because man that andrew tate shit is literally like the we go in streaking meme that will ferrell did like
It would just be a bunch of people running and then all of a sudden like when they got dumped on they'd be like
Fuck i'm naked at walmart and there's my grandma. Yeah, you know what I mean?
Fuck i'm naked at walmart and there's my grandma
Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I mean, I'm not a lot of say this but it would quite literally change the world
I mean a lot of say this but it would quite literally change the world
I don't know what that means, but it would also the only difference is is the walmart products
You have to hold back can't like pump 10 000 on the announcement that they're in walmart
Um, maybe like the only difference
Um, maybe like the only difference also is uh, a mad lab's goaded for fucking building the exchange. Like did I?
Also is is uh, our mad lab's goaded for fucking building the exchange. Like did I
Am I fading? I don't know
Uh, but I was talking to some exchange in my fridge the other day and I was going now
Uh, but I was talking to some exchange in my friends the other day and I was going now
It was just like a wide open pause the entire conversation. I'm like, what are you telling?
It was just like a wide open pause the entire conversation. I'm like, what are you telling?
They restart talking about numbers. I'm like, what are you fucking telling me right now? I'm in a wrong business. Um
We're back from when leap was here at the start like when he was saying how art can kind of influence out the gate on
Some of these things I think at the end of the day
Of these things. I think at the end of the day
It's just like any sign of hope right because what happens at the start a token dealer goes all the way down and sober
Or it goes up and then at some point it comes back down and that from that point
It's like where's the hope the hope can come in? Is it gonna be a token? Is it gonna be an art upgrade?
Where's the hope the hope can come in? Is it gonna be a token? Is it gonna be an art upgrade?
Do we like the founder fuck are they giving us plushies? Let's fucking roll. Yeah, plushies three
No more art upgrades, please. We're done with art upgrades. Also, like I was about to rug this face
We got two people on stage. Yo, what the fuck is good?
Look, I gotta call this out. I I think it was a serious tweet two days ago three days ago
Maybe you made an announcement at not alex lynn offered 69 eth to take over valhalla lucanette style
I mean, what the fuck is going on? Where did that tweet come from?
I mean what the fuck is going on? Where did that tweet come from?
Can you really say valhalla and did you get a text back?
Can you really say valhalla and did you get a text back?
I did not get not that I only not get a text back nor did I not get any replies to my tweet
and got uh left on scene, um
Yeah, bro. I don't know. It seemed like um
The community was in pain and uh, like things weren't being
Hitting their kind of what they were looking for, you know a year ago or a year and a half ago when things minted
they did not expect the keyboard so um
All I wanted to just you know hop in and give my two cents and see if i'm able to like pick it up
Yeah, i'll publicly say this statement right now
I will never own a valhalla again for the rest of my life unless duke who takes over the project
I will never own a valhalla again for the rest of my life unless duke who takes over the project before I go back to
Before I go back to let me bitboy jake 69 east for what valhalla currently is
69 eth for what valhalla currently is. I mean, I kind of feel like they should be paying to get rid of it
I mean, I kind of feel like they should be paying to get rid of it. I mean, how do you feel about that?
I mean, how do you feel about that? Honestly?
They did everything bad from the start. You don't pitch as a competitor of a stream, but i'm gonna be real
Bad from the start you don't pitch as a competitor of a stream
But i'm gonna be real that fucking keyboard as a gamer would go nuts
That fucking keyboard as a gamer would go nuts
Listen if you're on the payroll too. No, no, no, i'm just saying if l if fucking lg or hyper x or
Anybody released a shit like that dude their community would fucking go insane
So what are you saying is basically we're all going to mint a razor nft right now. What what are you saying?
No, no, I I mean here's the thing you were manipulated in a different way. That's the fuck up
How many vowels do you have zero I have zero
I'm just saying I literally have zero i'm just saying the start
Wait, wait, did you would you just did you just ask him that so you could see if he can hate from outside the club
Did you just ask him that so you could see if he can hate from outside the club or inside the club
Inside the club. I was just trying to see how if you really like these these keyboards
I was just trying to see how if you really like these these keyboards
No, no, I have zero. I literally I sold the absolute pico top of that but
I sold the absolute pico top of that but
To to be like a year later. Hey, here's keyboards and not only for not everyone, but it's like
To be like a year later. Hey, here's keyboards and not only for not everyone, but it's like
300 of them man. Come on. You're throwing them 300 of them is crazy. Also, you know, bro post the fucking
You're throwing them 300 of them is crazy. Also jay. You're not bro post the fucking
Time play post the steam stats. You're not a real fucking gamer. First of all post the stats
I will motherfucker. I will I literally will show you it's literally go look up ready. How you know?
I will motherfucker. I will I literally will show you it's literally go look up ready. How you know, i'm a fucking
I'm a fucking guy. My gamer is anal admirer. All right, go fucking look it up
My gamer is anal admirer. All right, go fucking look it up
Um, okay, so do you even stream that is some top of the food chain naming right there
Okay, so do you even that is some top of the food chain naming right there
I'm a real fucking gamer. If you if you were Valhalla, would you sell this thing for 69 ether? Is that like an insulting offer?
Real fucking gamer if you if you were Valhalla, would you sell this thing for 69 ether? Is that like an insulting offer?
No, I mean the the fucking community is in shambles. I mean you you fucking brainwash them
I mean they they you didn't do the right thing. I I mean, it's a total red flag
I mean they they you didn't do the right thing. I I mean, it's a total red flag
They try to be the competitor to fuck a twit
They try to be the competitor or fucking twit
You have to be out of your fucking mind to think that was doable in web 3
I'm sorry to say that was the huge red flag with me
I was bashing the fuck out of them and then yeah, then they released the keyboard
I mean, yeah, they of course the community is fucking in shambles. Like that's the yeah, wrong
Of course the community is fucking in shambles like that's the yeah
Man merch. What was the price tag on that keyboard by the way? I heard it's like a buck
Merch what was the price tag on that keyboard? By the way, I heard it's like a buck
It's like a fatty buck. It's like 600 bucks or 500 bucks. Oh, no, okay
Yeah, see that's that's the shit that kills me in web 3 is like how they do the merch
Yeah, see that's that's the shit that kills me in web 3 is like how they do the merch
Like there's one guy who controls the majority of the contacts for for technology in china
And one who does manufacturing for clothing
Like I can find those guys and I work in fucking oil and gas and I found them and hand them off to people
And hand them off to people I can tell you which countries to get shit from and it's not even what I do for a living
I could tell you which countries to get shit from and it's not even what I do for a living
And so it's so low effort to me when you make some shit that sucks or it costs a lot because it's like
And so it's so low effort to me when you make some shit that sucks or it costs a lot because it's like
The information is not very fucking difficult to grab. You want to know who makes the best linens?
It's in like kwong dong province
Like do you want ray bands that don't say ray bands on them?
Like like all these things are they're not hard to fucking fine
Like just fucking dm me and i'll send you all the us and do the motherfuckers real life contacts to get a hold of
Just do something for us. Okay, make it easy for us
Okay, make it easy for us
Ray bands don't say ray bands is crazy
Because you can cut shit on the floor
Um, well look thread uh threads by thread guys dropping soon to hit me up already see
I mean btech btech btech if I handed you the bow hollow ecosystem you were down 69 east. Could you say this collection?
I don't know a great deal about
The collection I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing a keyboard. So that's like one step in the right direction, right?
The collection I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing a keyboard. So that's like one step in the right direction, right?
Um, obviously, how are you how can you make discord announcements about a keyboard also real quick?
Honestly, how are you how can you make discord announcements about a keyboard also real quick joe rogan just signed a
Joe rogan just signed a 250 million dollar spotify deal that allows him to post his podcast to twitter
250 million dollar spotify deal that allows him to post his podcast to twitter
Bullish 250 when when joe rogan pg spaces, bro. I'll come in
250 when when joe rogan tg spaces, bro. I was coming to trust in you guys
When tg spot spotify that's coming to it as well. Yeah, fuck twitter spaces and when tg spotify
When tg spot spotify that's coming to it as well. Yeah, fuck twitter spaces. It's when tg spotify
Whoever's got that spotify contact is like yeah
That's the that's the big boy player right there. Yeah
Um, I guess we'll go back to you duku
Like do you think there's any chance that this actually goes through or they kind of just told you to fuck off?
How old i'm curious? Like what what would like?
I'm curious like what what would like?
Do you actually want the collection?
Look it's not about do you actually want the collection the platform is there they have built
Look, it's not about do you actually want the collection the platform is there they have built
A lot of things that I believe could be a little bit better utilized or used
And it's there. It's just there. It's just not used and and it's a shame to see because
Is built out of great people every single person I met from the Valhalla community has been nothing but nice and kind to me
And just it sucks to see you know a platform and and something that is built not being used to its full potential
Um, so yeah, that that was kind of my thought behind it
So yeah, that that was kind of my thought behind it
If i'm able to pick it up and kind of like put the things together and kind of pivot it in uh
If i'm able to pick it up and kind of like put the things together and kind of pivot it in a in a more positive way
In a more positive way than i'm more than happy to do so look I respect it. I genuinely mean it
Then i'm more than happy to do so look I respect it. I genuinely mean it
Um, if you fucking to lower I would fucking buy Valhalla
You fucking till over. I would fucking buy Valhalla
Uh, you're if you don't do because one of the fucking go to the space that uh,
Get us to have that for a follow tap it with him
Yeah, thumbs down that look I got one more thing. I gotta touch my real quick bit boy j
I gotta touch my real quick bit boy j. I got a question for you. Um a little bit off topic
I got a question for you. Um a little bit off topic, but it's a good question
But it's a good question. Are you at all interested in blockchain gaming j?
Are you a little interested in blockchain gaming j?
Um, yeah, I I am you know, there there's this uh, maybe you could tell me there's this thing about yeah
Yeah, I uh, I am you know there there's this uh, maybe you can tell me there's this thing about yeah
Like you're interested in i'm an interested in b-tech and I on the side have been have been talking a lot about it
Like you're interested in i'm an incident b-tech and I on the side have been have been talking a lot about it
Um, i'm not sure if you've been playing anything fun recently, but if you haven't I I think I have a suggestion if you're interested
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