Crypto & NFT’s,+Community Walk in (GIVEAWAY) sponsor: META-BUILDERS

Recorded: June 24, 2023 Duration: 0:54:18

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Oh, everyone is up in the great night tonight. I'm super excited. I'm hoping we get some super cool interests in unique new spaces. I mean projects into our spaces tonight. I'm sure everyone has already retweeted the room like ultra legends. I've already showed it out to like seven groups in record
speed. But yeah, tonight I think we should speak about a few different interesting topics. First of all, Zio, you'll be feeling better and all you've not been so well, but one of the topics sort of included you and your outlook on the NF2 space and I
I've noticed a few big projects have slowly been declining in floor price and I'd like to know what your take is on that. LaCost is really starting to go hard in the web free space and they've dropped some super cool information which we've been following that close and I'm excited about that because
That's a huge deal for such a large brand to really take the Web3 industry so seriously. So that's cool. There's been some really big news there. I'm up and you can help fill us in on with some of the largest banks and institutions starting to release more and more positive information about Bitcoin and the crypto.
So I'm hoping we can put some of these Yeah, the market is moving, ladies and gentlemen, the market is moving Bitcoin in particular, that's quite interesting. So you saw a dip not so long
ago and it seemed to be more so the altcoins that shit themselves, the Bitcoin seemed to hold up quite well. There was an area on the chart that I was looking at, 25222 and it was more an area than exactly, but that area held up perfectly and then it popped off after that
Now I think Altcoins now maybe start to catch up a little bit some of the larger camps. So I think Tricky mentioned earlier that Bitcoin cash was was pumping. Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah. It's weird. I mean, I don't get it personally. I think just super happy. It's garbage. Just super happy. I hold 90 of them.
But yeah, no that that was amazing though to see that Yeah, really like the forks were took off. I mean Bitcoin pumps significantly, but all the other forks also moved Yeah, very interesting. Yeah
I'm always about a diversified portfolio and there just really isn't that many options to invest in when it comes to crypto. So I have a little bit of everything, but I've definitely watched the movements and the all-time highs of certain things and if I don't think it's going to
I think it's going to reach that old time high again, you know, I definitely buy a little extra. I really don't know where this last pump is. I mean, I know kind of no where it's coming from. There's a lot of institutional investors, BlackRock and a bunch of other places.
recently announced that they were going to buy or headbutt. Bro, they say they've bought. They have been the pump. Every pump you've seen since 15k has been them. So, you know, they're already well positioned for this ETF.
them through back channels, honestly, because of government crime. Yeah, you were saying this before. So yeah, you were saying that maybe they didn't necessarily move the price, but they approached someone like Coinbase and did it OTC or the government, the US government straight up government. Okay, yeah, because
the US government's got a bunch of Bitcoin right? Right, they, I mean, they, the Silk Road and a bunch of different, you know, things that went down and, you know, the CIA and the FBI, they tracked these wallets, they freeze the accounts, they seize the assets. I mean, they're good at that. And they've, they've done that. So I'm thinking
I mean, I was expecting another dip, but now I'm kind of thinking that there was a lot of lateral transfer just for a payment. So that's why it didn't actually hit the exchange. Right? Like, I feel like when they announced that they had, you know, they were moving, the Black Mark Rock was moving and all these other
institutions were moving, they had already made their purchase, but I hadn't seen it on the market. So that's kind of how I came to that conclusion. You know what I mean? Because we moved after the announcement, which is kind of expected, but it wasn't the proportional move to how much they would have invested.
They're investing a lot. For example, like my collection, I have a couple different collections where the actual trading volume is significant because it's all been back channels. People have paid me cash or sent me crypto directly and I
transfer the NFT so it doesn't count as transaction history but there's still you know x amount of holders and and that many units available so so it's all supply and demand but there's there's definitely like you know back back channel save
I'm sure we can look that up and find that on a blockchain if we, you know, I mean, they've got to be large transactions. Yeah, you definitely make some solid points there. And Johnny, respond to that back and be quite as quickly welcome over and out. So up to the stage.
No, not really. I think you're definitely right. They could definitely be some OTC stuff going on. BlackRock, Renewance and Pressure from
the most government given that freed up some cash essentially. So yeah, I mean it's definitely a solid theory for sure.
Yeah, yeah, it is it is a little bit of a theory for sure, but I Don't think it's too far stretch Yeah, so yeah, go on crack home, yeah, no I just wanted to say a massive welcome to technically web 3 and the dracats for joining the stage and for everyone that's just joined the room tonight's community
So we're going to be speaking about all things crypto web 3 for the top of your projects. That's totally awesome. Super excited. I don't know that Chicago has some super cool exciting things to talk about with his projects. Corbro has well welcomed and met a ride as well. Welcome also welcome to Cycote is it?
Yes, I caught and Doglin is welcome as well, you legend. That's Christian from the street. I just got shot at you legend. But yeah, Dracat has welcomed to the stage. My friend and we're doing. Hey, buddy. I'm doing all right. I'm actually just loading the kids in the car with the car. Oh, she's, but I thought you're doing a safe. So I came running to jump.
but you'll have to excuse me on driving as well as groceries and kids. Oh, you know what it's like. How many kids amount numbered? Okay, we can cut chop in a bit. I talked to the chop. Yeah, you go into somebody else's office and then I'll be home soon and I'll jump on. Yeah, nice, nice, appreciate it.
Bless him definitely got his hands full of legend but yeah no nice one for jumping in the meantime while for so doing all the dad's duties yeah technically web 3 my friend welcome I do but it's thank you for coming back thanks as usual for inviting me how's everybody doing yeah
great, but I just want to give a quick shout out to MetRide's sorry. It's a project that's been on my radar for a little while. They basically create 3D assets that you can use in different meta-verses. It's a pretty cool project, so if they've got time to jump on a stage, I definitely want to hear more about that project.
Yeah, definitely that sounds epic. If you want to jump up MetaRides do send a request and we'll get you straight up. I'm also in a same with you as well, Corbro. If you want to talk about the cost projects, I'm super excited about it. We've got a lot going on with Jackson recently, which I'm excited about. You're welcome to jump up as well.
A lot of really smart guys up here. It seems like everybody's finally understanding the power of Web 3 and what all the developers have been talking about with the underlying technology.
and people are starting to get all the light bulbs going off as to how they can use it. It's great that it was a financial tool at the beginning, but it's just great to see all the people realizing the use case of it.
Yeah, I mean, you heard what Nathan said yesterday, you know, some of the stuff that's coming through that he's been made aware of and you know, you could tell how excited he was by how much of a game change of some of this technology could be.
I remember he said add a plus in here with us that's all I remember. He's a legend for that. I legend for that. He's a good marketer right? Yeah man. He knows what he's doing a great way.
really enjoying following along as well because you know matter of things that you've been experimenting with and you know the way you break the content down it's not like patronizing it's easier to understand than I love how you know you sort of play with it in a way that helps people sort of follow along and you know get a greater understanding of like the true depths of this industry so I'm just going to shout out
Awesome. Yeah, I'm glad like that. That was the whole reason was, you know, I'm a tech guy and I've always been the kind of person, you know, growing up even even as a as a kid in high school, like showing my grandparents had to like set up a Facebook or an email address or whatever and, you know, so get getting into this.
and being able to get a grasp and understanding on what blockchain technology is and trying to explain it in a simple way is the philosophy, it's the goal of the channel is really to get people to understand these things in a concept that maybe they understand and that's why you know
So, you know, coming up with analogies in order to make it something that's relatable to like a technology that they understand or something that already exists. That's important. And like, again, I try not to be too patronizing or anything like that. Everybody learns that they're on pace. Everybody has their own way.
of learning and I just try to put my like the way that I understand it out there so that way hopefully other people get just like maybe a different perspective on it. Yeah I mean you come from quite a technical perspective and I think for a lot of people they would be part with but they wouldn't
put up with it because they just can't understand it if you know what I mean. But then obviously watching your videos, the more you break down those technical elements into a way to actually understand the technicalities of the things you're talking about.
Yeah, exactly. Like yesterday we were describing NFTs as a digital collectible and how you wouldn't go out and buy a rookie card and then trade it the next day because he's still a rookie. It's not going to have any value. So I like using those types of analogs like the real-world analog
to describe the digital world because people are just like oh cryptocurrency and blah blah blah and blockchain technology and I'm like you know at the end of the day your bank is displaying numbers on an app you don't really care what HTTPS requests and what SSL certificates they have and how the technology you don't care
you see the numbers on the screen and the bank is the one that's going to be working with the blockchain technology. Like you need to understand these analogues that you know it's not a scam it's it's just a way of communicating. Yeah absolutely and that's a good analogy to go from a
I just want to quickly welcome Doug Lins. Christine, welcome to the stage, my friend. How are you doing today, sir? You well? You didn't do the right introduction. Thank you for the Douglass Commission for Association, the Community Community is Academy and the Shoebist Society. Welcome, Christine.
I love it. I love it. Yeah, let's all retweet this room. I'm going to actually do a giveaway. I've got a giveaway in my Discord and Genchat pinned to the top, but I'm going to pick a giveaway from someone who retweeted the space.
So everyone, make sure you go down to the bottom right, hit that bubble, retweet the room, and maybe tag a friend or two. And yeah, yeah, go ahead, actually, go ahead and tag three friends, and retweet the room. And that'll qualify you for the giveaway. Well, let's go.
Sounds good plan, nice one tricky. We actually have another giveaway actually. Z3 did a giveaway a couple of weeks back and we're going to be dropping that in the second half of the first tonight which I'm super excited about because
So it's not from a very good giveaway to give, so I'm excited about that.
I've actually got a little announcement. We have the ascensions minting, they have a free mint on the 26th, which is this Monday. So we'll actually be doing this launch. I think it's 8 o'clock PM Eastern Standard time.
on Monday the free mint is live so all you gotta do is message me your wallet address and I'll white list you for that free mint on the 26th just go ahead and click on the defi space donkeys account drop your wallet address that's it we're gonna have a mint party
on the Monday. My space that's normally at 4 o'clock is going to turn into a mint party and it's just going to keep on going. We're going to be giveaways. We're going to be talking about different projects. We're going to have different friends stop you in, sharing about their projects and doing giveaways.
Yeah, multiple giveaways, lots of projects, hopefully, and then we'll have the free mint at 8 o'clock. The new art is just phenomenal. So yeah, definitely want to tap in for that. And let me get that link and I'll pin it to the top.
Yeah, that's got super excited about that and yeah the artwork is phenomenal to be served Adrian now you looked into the cheer block chain the cheer community as well. I keep people people keep bugging me about the cheer community I've started to look into it a little bit. Did you guys want to give me a little
Hello down. Yeah, I can try and help you as much as I can. So basically it's got the same circulating supply as Bitcoin, but you mine it through space and time. So basically you use the the the the some loose
a month of training thought. Basically the amount of storage space you've got on your computer rather than mining it through transactions and it's, I think it's carbon negative and it's one of, it's the largest
So the most decentralized blockchain in regards to Nord count in the world of over 100,000 Nords worldwide. It's a super interesting blockchain and there's so many things that you can do on it and the way that it's structured I think you would have so much fun with it because it's like, it's like, no, the blockchain I've ever heard of.
Hopefully we'll get some cheer guys on tonight. I mean, you're cut as you might be able to give you a much better lockdown on it. Oh, there's another cheer legend at the bottom called Lucas. He may be able to jump up and give you a better rundown of it because I'm not the best at explaining things technically, but yeah, they're honestly like there are so many, you know, I do
do try to simplify my stuff as much as possible. So like I don't try and reach out and find like all these, there's tons of great blockchain technology out there and it's just about knowing which projects to get involved in. And so I'm starting just like as basic as possible, you know, I started developing
Well, if I'm going to be honest, I started developing on Salona because it was the easiest to get into, it was command line, you could do it all through Rust. And then the next one that I jumped to is Bitcoin because it's very fundamental, it's very raw. And from there, I started upgrading like, okay, now I can do smart contracts on the theory
And then I went on to Polygon because it had all the same stuff that Ethereum did, but I didn't need to wait, you know, five minutes for a transaction to go through or pay ridiculous amounts of gas fees. And so like the next thing that I'm going to be looking for is I'm going to be looking for blockchains that incorporate data in a way.
So one of the important things as a programmer is being able to connect to multiple APIs. So like being able to connect to the TikTok API or to a Spotify API or to a Facebook API, whatever it happens to be, I need the ability to do that as a programmer.
any blockchains out there that incorporate that technology that would probably be the next step in line for me. Yeah well here's a super oh look we've got Lucas coming up now actually Lucas maybe you can answer that question. Welcome to the stage my friend.
just before just while I was going to say sort of my bit on what I kind of feel about the cheer network. Yes, it's super, super decentralized. It is super, super green and it's super, super easy to
sort of work with and build on. So, but the thing is, when it first launched, before it launched, I heard about it and I was quite excited about the projects and the price chart is horrible, but the technology
is great. It uses hardware in the form of hard drives to mind the cryptocurrency and keep the network honest and true and it's really cool. Jump in there, Lucas.
Oh, go right you're doing great. I mean, it's as far as Nakamoto consensus it has a coefficient of I believe 70. I saw somebody posted the other day as a reference. I believe Bitcoin has four and Ethereum one.
And that goes to the amount of nodes that are required to knock out or something, but to the cryptographic security. So that is a super bonus in regards to Chia. My favorite part is the offers.
that are built into the chain. So, Chia will not have to rely on marketplaces like OpenC or Magic Eden or any of those, which it does accommodate them, but it has an offer
system apart from that. And you were asking about APIs. It runs on a language that's a Turing complete called Lisp that goes back to the 50s, which relies mainly on parentheses and then has seven other operators.
And it also runs on the UTXO Bitcoin, which is a cash model rather than the accounts model. And that goes to dividing three if you want me to get into that. I like that as well. That's one of my favorite things about Bitcoin is the UTXO thing.
because it's just so clever and so cool. Well, yeah, it's because like with with any that's that's kind of the thing that I dislike most about thearium is when we talk about like a ledger we're talking about you know having a central ledger you're centralizing it in a sense by
putting it all onto a state, like all onto the Ethereum state, whereas UTXOs, like if you have your keys and you have your UTXOs, you can like do some math to kind of prove that those UTXOs are yours, right? So I do like the very raw nature of the UTXOs.
It does feel very much like digital cash because what you're doing like with the blockchain that uses UTXOs is you're taking that UTXO which could be like a $5.31 bill and then you split that off into a $5 bill and a .31
31 cent bill and then you keep 31 cents while you're sending the $5 off. So like I do love that technology. I think it's brilliant. It's like a customized, like a UTXO if you don't really know, is kind of like a customized bill. It's like a customized bill of value that is totally digital.
I think I love you're absolutely right. I've been wondering lately what uses we'll see for the two because like the mark is an accounting term that comes for dividing by three and think about office space and what happens to the little the little
tiny bits of coins that drop off. And I've also thought as we depagged from the dollar, we'll find out what the value of the chain coin structure a lot more. But those are all big, long other topics. Another amazing thing about chia is
the structure also of the of the of the system of the coins. They they are nested coins and everything is a token which I don't want to get asked me more if that's not if that doesn't make any sense. But but in essentially
when a token is a nested hash puzzle. And because it's not a smart contract and that can make coins or just a token, but it's a token and on every side can have a nested hash puzzle makes it to me
also very, very powerful. And I hear that the new Ethereum contracts might be leaning towards that with their assets and what not, but this one is at the very base level of Chia. I think that's all of my favorite things, but I'll probably think of more. But ask me anything.
I was going to ask you Adrian what your thoughts now on chair, that after a little bit more about it.
Again, I'm kind of of the simplistic. Like I like the technology, I like the idea that sounds like incredibly smart and I've always been looking for things that are more decentralized like Bitcoin. Like to me, I've yet to find anything I would
have to do some digging and all that kind of stuff because there are certain things that still matter how decentralized a project sounds, like there's still things that, you know, like it's that hidden hook that actually centralizes the whole thing. So I would have to look
into like it sounds like it's if if if all those like promises are met you know it sounds like it could be the the one that I've been looking for that is next to Bitcoin like that's that's been as good of an idea as Bitcoin and as DC
centralized as that type of a project with some actual use case because like we've seen you know the doges of the world and like the light not not to to shit on anybody but like a light coin for example to me is a Bitcoin like it's
There's nothing that you couldn't do with the Bitcoin network if we reach consensus on making faster transactions of priority, for example. So to me, Litecoin is just a nice copy with a different idea, but it does fundamentally, if the same thing is Bitcoin.
I think as far as decentralization, Chia is at 150,000 nodes or computers and Bitcoin is at 40,000. So I think it's pretty amazing.
decentralized aspect, something I'm a big fan of. The founder or the original developer was the same person who was behind a splitting
Torrance so that say a judge in East Texas couldn't sue somebody for downloading a metallic a song On torrents, so it's also very much a That's at the core of it. I would say the decentralized aspect
Yeah, and I mean like at the end of the day it's going to come down to the developers putting actually like useful things onto these blockchains to exploit their strengths, you know what I mean like I don't think that like because my project as it stands could literally sit on any blockchains
that has smart contract technology. I've had people ask me to put it on the XRPL for example. I'm like, "Well, you guys understand that the XRPL doesn't have smart contract technology in the same way that Polygon or Ethereum do because at the end
end of the day and xrpl "smart contract" is centralized to the company that if the company goes down, the smart contract is dead. Like the hooks into the xrpl are gone. And I don't think like not everybody understands that every because people are just like so
focused on their project and they're so committed to their project, which isn't a bad thing, but they think that their project is great for every use case. And it's not. The real strengths are going to come when the developers exploit the strengths of that blockchain
that put it above all the others. Interesting and I want if you wouldn't mind tell me what your project does or if I die if you want to get back in bacon you'll want to get back and defy let me know but yeah the the yeah tell us about yeah tell us about your project
So, Tiktokin is a project which aims to link your existing social media IDs starting with Tiktok for now. So linking your Tiktok ID to a Web 3 wallet. What this does is this allows
for me to build a directory of social media handles that are linked to wallets, which means that one day, hopefully, Metamask may integrate just like how ENS is integrated into Ethereum, Metamask may integrate the ability to send
to somebody's TikTok handle using my smart contract. Now as a reward, you get a portion of TikTok in which is proportional to the amount of followers that you have. So if you have like let's say you have zero followers, you get a minimum chunk of TikTok in thank you for registering
If you want to know the exact amount, it is 0.001 tick token for every thousand followers that you have. The reason it's so low is because I decided to have fun with this project and make it have a max supply of 1.
Because it's got a max supply of one, it just means that I need only a small market cap of just $30,000 at the current moment to beat the price of Bitcoin to have my asset be worth more than 1BTC.
So you get a chunk of Tiktokin for joining. And as we go on throughout time, I've created a having function similar to Bitcoin, but instead of cutting the rewards in half, we're actually cutting the rewards by a factor of 10, which means every time the supply of Tiktokin gets cut in half
So once we get to the 50% mark, it's going to actually take 10 followers for every one follower today. Or you're going to get rewarded 0.0001 instead of having 10 more per. So this way, it's a
project just to just to summarize to project with a one max supply. It has the ability to link your TikTok ID to your Web 3 wallet and mint rewards based on the amount of followers that you have. And the content that you create as well is always
also telling people about how your doctor yourself, if you attach a wallet to your tiktok can, it means that anyone could watch your wallet. And that's obviously the educational part of what you're doing as well as teaching people about those kind of risks. Yeah, one of the videos
that kind of made me a little bit popular or infamous or whatever you're depending on which side of the aisle you landed on whether you're a Calvin Hill follower or not. I got a lot of flack from Calvin Hill followers because I posted a video after having gone into this guy's life numerous times and watching him give exact specific balance
of all of his tokens and trying to shout out they're like hey do you realize you're doxing yourself like do you realize that we can look up your wallet address based on your token count and so I did it in a video I went and I punched in the exact amount of gala that he showed that he had and I said this is how I found Calvin Hills wallet is he told me exactly
I was trying to show people like, "Hey, be careful, but
what information you're getting out, do you know what is linked to your wallet? Do you know how much information people can ascertain from that? If not, you're better to be careful. And that's why when I tell people to register for Tiktokin, I say it is so easy. If you're on Metamask, you can click New Account and you can spin up a new account in less than 30
seconds. And from there you can use that for your air drops. You don't need to worry about like, "Oh, am I signing into a contract that's going to draw the drain the funds out of my account?" I want people to be educated and to use best practices, whether it's my project or whether it's any other project. Spinning up a new wallet for a risky project
like Tiktokin, it's risky whether I want to admit it or not or whether I care to admit it. You guys are not smart contract experts. You cannot audit that smart contract and say for sure that I'm not doing anything sketchy. So just be safe, spin up a new wallet, it takes no time and then register for
So, Chia has a couple of features that are built into it also that address specifically those things. On the Chia wallet that you're sent out, you can generate IDs. Well, before that, I said everything is a token and everything
you know, must like cost or has to be a token to transfer. I'm not a dev, I'm not a list expert, I don't know, I'm not sure about that, but I do know that they have the digital ID token and the idea of that is also been mimicked or copied by other chains wonderfully.
And that is like a wallet or a token that you can move everything into. That is not necessarily your identity or bound to your identity. So check out the DID also.
on the chia wallet that you get from their website, you can spin up or spill out new addresses to receive or to make offers. So also very handy.
Yeah, I mean like I said the the chia it It sounds like they've got like they they wanted to tackle a couple different problems and I would be interested to see like you know what the like ideal use case is for chia I've heard that's like that that's in gold. There's also a clawback feature
which I think will be profoundly useful. And drag it, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's just transactions that are in the mean poll before they're inscribed on a block. But also to me, the offers, I was trying to explain to somebody the other day, and I said, like, think back to
the 80s when we went to a mall and now everything is for sale. Almost like eBay made it possible to put everything up for sale in your house, but now everything is almost always for sale on the Chia chain because of the offer system.
I'm still learning about that, but to me that's going to be one of the biggest aspects about it. Yeah, I'd like. Yeah, jumping on them offers just because I just recently did like a creative solution for someone.
real quick, I just moved my entire project from ETH to sorry the kids in the background there too, I don't know if you guys can hear all that. I just moved my end in the process of moving my entire project from ETH that's here, completely shut down any of the rim use because it is completely pointless have to get a
I shouldn't be pointless, but for me my project is just like not having. So as an example, the offer thing that Lucas was talking about recently had somebody who was having a hard time getting his GX James through whatever his means were that he was using. And so I had a couple limited tracks
packs going with bunch of cards in them and he really wanted one and we're getting down to the end and he was he's been a really good guy so I was like yeah I'll put one aside and he said well how do I hold it you know how do I give you some collateral and he said well how about I send you one of my monkeys you super monkeys and I just bought two and you're the value of them so I knew it was
It was if anything too much collateral, but you know we were just kind of doing You know keeping it on the up and up so when it came time to he's like okay. I got my xch How do I get my NFT back? He's like do you want to do this this this is this big well complicated thing and it really came down to me just coming up with one
and sending them a string of text copypaste. All I did was in the offer on the fly, just in that moment, we're going to do this, the offer came down to me, just copypaste some IDs or hit the plus symbol and add the NFT and it was like, okay, the offer file was constructed as this.
you accept this offer, you will get your NFT back, you will also get all the cards that are promised you for the pack that I basically held for you. And so there's the two side and the from side, right? So I'm going to send you your NFT back. I'm also going to send you five more NFTs that you're sending
purchasing in this pack. And part of my thing is that the pack is I want the pack back because I don't want people selling empty packs of cards right and they're pawning it off. So on the from side it literally says and you're going to give me this pack of cards which you already own but I can get the ID. So you're going to give me this
And you're going to give me 2.5x8, which is what it was worth. And in one single trade, everybody gets everything back, all done in one swoop, and you just do it on the fly. And you can do it for, I would like to give you X amount of x8, but I want this NFT, this type of token, plus 0.5x8.
XCHV. And so you've got your choices to construct on both sides, the two in the front. There's NFT, no honey, please, I'm on a call. Thank you. Shut my door. You've got on the two side, you can send money, NFTs, or tokens, other tokens, and then receive. And you can just create it on the floor.
and oh done. It's the most impressive exchange of anything in digital form that I've ever seen on all the blockchains and it's so easy that you just send it as a string when you're done making it and say create. I mean you theoretically
and Cass has done this, he's a bit of a guru in the space. You could just make a QR code out of that string, stick that QR code in an envelope, and snail mail it to someone, they scan it on the other end and boom, it's theirs. So you could get incredibly creative about what
meet and it can be specific to the use case of that person. So in this case, the guy just didn't have the cheat at the time, he didn't want to mess up. We made it, it constructed a fair offer and everyone was happy. Nobody's security was at risk. Everybody can use a new unique, refreshed wallet address. We could, I guess, do an
extent at some point have done like clawbacks and what if but I don't know so I'm not sure who is talking about there earlier but I just from a firsthand experience from a developer from heavy web to career developer and you know year and a half two years in crypto I guess
It's been the best thing I could have done for my project in my community by far. In one move to Chia, I felt like I've served my community better than I did in the entire year on Ethereum, because just the simple fact of educating them quickly
on why it's better, which you know you've heard some really great reasons. Bringing them over, I already feel like okay I got a whole bunch of people on a safer chain now where they're going to be well protected by a really really great community of some of bunches
the biggest giga chats I've ever met. Everybody should look at it. It's just an eight-day difference. But the alpha files are super cool.
I just wanted to open the floor. I think I wanted to jump up and chat. Raise your hand and we'll get you up in. Everyone's welcome. Absolutely. Let's restry this room. We've got a couple of retreats in the room, but we've got a good amount of people here. So if everyone goes down to the bottom there, just hit that little button.
Give us a retweet maybe tag your friend or two you can grow this room a little bit more. We've got a good show Welcome monkey zoo and all the friends that have joined us. I see you down there. So low breezy We got a bunch of friends in the house. I appreciate all you for showing up. You throw it really up in your room
and you'll have a bunch of matches to show up and you'll get a really nice education. Yeah, definitely. I absolutely love the cheer community and how much you guys have really, you know, got a bunch of guys in that cheer community. They're all super nice chill dudes that you know can see a really cool use case.
with this technology and they're getting hands on, you know, in building the infrastructure with this stuff is really cool. I've never myself personally worked with intellectually creative individuals like that having in Gia. I've worked with some pretty big brands.
at work in my aerospace job. But these guys are... I think the difference is I talked about this with Grant. At work even, like I worked in aerospace and I've got a bunch of career devs that love their work. But even like me, I'm tired of aerospace. And in this space,
that you get this freedom of creativity and that the waters are so unknown, it's a giant blue ocean out there right now. So the people that really like, you know, that understand where the good tech is, where to be. So most of the devs in Chia have landed there because they know better and have done some, you know, a bit of research. But when you put those kind of
of minds and that kind of space with all those other light lines around. It's pretty amazing to see how not just quickly problems get solved, but how effectively or like how robust they get solved. Like there is no half-baked path.
in Chia. Like there is in the EVM world of bridges and all of these things that just have fundamental flaws because they are fundamentally a patch to us something that it could wear in Chia, we're in this world of primitives and all the primitives are being made off the backs or off the tails
of all these chains that have done patches. So while she, I often see it, I kind of see Jean and Bram as the steam jobs and the wasniac, you know, of Apple, but I see them and I really, more recently and I've made a couple of posts and they've won a little meme about it.
I see the chia as the apple and what has happened is EVM based blockchains and the theorem have rushed out the door similar to when we saw IOT hit heart and they've rushed out the door and then everyone later was like oh my god there's creeps watching my baby on my baby monitor like oh yeah you jammed it out there in your ran out
out and you didn't put any security on it. And we've seen this with windows and windows is fundamentally flawed to an extent and always will be because of how it was built and how it was rushed out and you kind of get these like little residual issues that will forever and always be where Apple went back at one point and completely re-engineered the entire system.
They took the slow pop. They never faltered on their culture. I'll be at it. I think the companies like Apple and Microsoft and all of these old school corporations are at a severe disadvantage in this new world. You know open source
And what open source does is it allows you to bring in people who are interested in contributing to the project, whereas when you're Microsoft and Apple, you're reliant entirely on your resources and keeping everything a secret and having to rush
to market because, oh no, the competitor may have found out like a small puzzle piece and then they may put something out first. And now you've got to put out a sub bar product. Absolutely. And she doesn't, if you guys ever watched, often, you know, field questions or in, in brand or any of the other big brands, there's no
There's no rush in these guys. There is no rush. And that to me is a developer when I look at something like, "Oh, these guys are kind of... Radix is like that. If Radix is anybody in here is into Radix, Radix is another good one." Yeah, Radix is really cool. And again, like the people I know that use Radix like there are no
I feel like there's a similarity thoughts with Cardano as well.
Well, it's about the sort of slums that he wins the race. They are sort of the building, but they're not just rushing stuff out to a market. They're taking their time to get it right.
Yeah, I've done the same thing with my own personal project. You know, it's a year and a half and development. And a lot of people, you know, along the way, NFT praise was at a high and people are, "When that's when that, and it's sorry, I'm not doing, I'm not doing hooky jokes right? I want to take my time, it takes me a year, it takes me two years,
that's what it takes. And so I see that in Chia. And I think that's why I really have respect for the guys that are building what they're building in Chia's because they don't waver on their beliefs just because of trends or high pressure. Yeah, absolutely. Lady Wings has come to share some absolute love with us.
Good morning. I'm blessed and I'm glad you all are here. Nothing but love and respect. I really do appreciate what you're doing because there's a no better foundation than a solid one and there's going to be a lot of people out there. Let them show their butts. You know what? Because like say you have a mint date and oh you couldn't come through because something fell through.
Just go to show your human you got to have practice runs before perfection and we're not looking for perfection. It's Web 3. We could do whatever we want you guys. We have an opportunity to make miracles happen. Let's change the world together. You know, on that note, just say no, like where I was saying I was just converting from you. See it.
the forgiveness of chia, so kind of like you're saying like being able to be flexible and like get some things done and dead at that, build your project how you want. It's very restrictive on youth. So again, whoever was at earlier asking about curiosity into chia, I'll tell you flexibility is a big one. And even correcting errors is easier.
Yeah, I was the one thing that I liked and didn't like about the Ethereum model was that smart contracts on the one hand could be immutable, but then they started introducing these like upgradable contracts and
I wasn't sure how I felt about that because now you have a mix of contracts which could have to be immutable and have to be like upgradable. And now you're running into a situation, well, do I trust the contract or not? Are they going to be able to change shit on me? And so like, I'd be interested to see how she tackles that.
I'm kind of a problem here. I think it's okay. So you got a collection of 10,000. Let's go big. We got a collection of 10,000. You got all these contracts. You body and you put some heavy money into it. Either as an investor or an advisor or you're the creator. Either way, at some point that contract gets compromised.
right? All 10,000 are compromised right? Essentially because of the entire contract, it's compromised. And that's kind of, I think you were saying earlier, but like all of this kind of ledger stuff is centralized us in a way in the decentralized world. And she, everything's
a coin and their own smart contracts and everything are contained within the coin. So never would be the case that a contract was compromised and thus the entire community and all the investments are compromised. Everything is contained within a coin and is self-contained and what happens to that coin can't be necessary unless obviously
there are circumstances where you had say interconnected coins or something about nature, maybe an edge case, but generally speaking, you're not at the, you're not, well, you don't have an attack vector to you personally through the ignorance of somebody else, right? You can feel more like a sovereign hope.
older, I guess would be a way to say it. Yeah, okay. So like my, I guess then the question would be so because I have two thoughts on like there's so one of my ideas was to build a decentralized music marketplace kind of like a Spotify or an Apple where you can either stream or purchase music. And one of the things that
I was considering was, you know, if I make an artist who like, let's say they release an album with a certain set of artwork and title and has a certain number of tracks on it and blah, blah, blah. I don't necessarily want them to be able to upgrade that. Like I want that if you minted