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Crypto Predictions for 2026 & Web3 Jobs on Coffee with Captain #1,063
Recorded: Dec. 30, 2025 Duration: 2:32:51Space Recording
Short Summary
As the crypto community gears up for 2026, discussions reveal a strong focus on emerging trends, innovative fundraising models, and the intersection of traditional finance with blockchain technology. Predictions highlight the potential for growth in generative art, tokenized assets, and the demand for skilled professionals in the evolving landscape.
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. Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. . Thank you. Thank you. um no nothing let me do this i'll unplug
now can you hear me on spaces check check check now Now it would be just coming through the phone audio, if you can hear me.
The problem is when I unplug like this, we got it.
So, hmm.
Yeah, it's working, but unfortunately, they're, like, if I'm not plugged in, they won't be able to hear you.
So let me, but but yeah so it's I'm
unplugging every cord plugging it back in
GM Machiavelli, you can hear me when I'm right now, correct?
Machiavelli, if you're there, can you hear me?
Check, check, check.
It says it's working in spaces.
Yeah, it's working in spaces now, but nothing's plugged in, so...
Should be the case.
Echo, echo, echo.
I think there is something going on with spaces.
Machiavelli came up, said he was speaker, and then he said he wasn't.
He came up and said he was locked.
Can you hear me now?
I can hear myself.
Something is...
I can hear you
so mcvelli can't get up at all he's yeah i think spaces is on the fritz is our problem
um but it was working when i unplug everything so you guys can't hear me now
apparently jesus christ literally did nothing other than just unplugged everything and plugged
it back in that's even more frustrating than not being oh yeah then like just not knowing i'd rather
just not know then oh oh great so the next time it cuts out on audio on spaces i'll just unplug
17 chords plug them all back in and miraculously work um that's wild can can they hear me can you hear outer yeah can you guys test test test because maybe you're just gonna solo ghost speak to no one if they can't hear me um um thumbs up
or down come on chat yeah okay look tricky saying yes i think i think everyone can hear you um yeah
okay and youtube is okay now because that'd be funny if it was like well actually we are we
are getting a lot of love teacher katie says uh yes love clubhouse no no uh start the space like
i think that might be the answer is we are the uh we'll start the great migration to
a clubhouse von fronten says prediction for 2026 here's our first prediction in the chat let us
know what you predict for 2026 on fronten thinks uh we go 2026. Here's our first prediction in the chat. Let us know what you'd predict for 2026.
Von Fronten thinks we go video only and Payne's vision finally comes true.
We leave X spaces forever.
Maybe for the fun of it, we will spin back up a clubhouse space.
Machiavelli, can you hear outer okay?
Yeah, I can hear outer loud and clear now.
I can hear you loud and clear now.
Everything seems to be coming through.
But spaces is on the fritz. uh quite a some time on this show i wasn't even able to request a speaker or anything for like the first 10 minutes you got all that showed was you outer
and nothing else um i i so okay this is outer you're you're good at like deducing reasoning and and um troubleshooting
like using logic and rationale it seems to me that the one common denominator anytime we have
these issues is it's following an x update i didn't even know that we got an update because
mine auto updates but you said you updated yours this morning i had to i wonder if machiavelli are you on the most recent i have not updated mine and i need to i just looked
right now it's it's a it's weird because i'm sure there's some people in the audience that are on
the most recent version but just trying to apply some logic that makes more sense than just
unplugging cords and plugging them back in without
changing anything when x doesn't update like the day of the night before and there's multiple
versions of people a multiple version of the app out there from speakers to listeners that's almost
always when we get these issues doesn't make any logical sense to me why that would be to where
i mean it would make sense if
it just didn't work period but the fact that unplugging cords and plugging it back in fixes it
that doesn't make any sense but again the common denominator seems to be it's within 24 hours of an
update coming out with that i mean ghost in the machine anyways i was going to talk for 21 minutes about my heart-wrenching fantasy football
defeat in the finals i thought i was drawing dead yesterday i had a kicker facing the leading
receiver in the league outer limit i know this is why you decided to host with me so you can hear my
oh 21 minute so fortunately between pain destroying the x connection so we completely abandoned it and outer causing this to happen just so we didn't have to talk about football for 21 minutes.
I'm not sure exactly what it was, but for everyone, I know 99% of you tuned in just to hear about my Dynasty League gut-wrenching defeat.
You know, when you say receiver, I'm picturing like an audio receiver i don't
i don't know what a receiver is but it sounds important um unfortunately it was it was important
last night it cost me it cost me the dub but i was i i was like a big dog facing one of the
leading wide receivers catches the catcher of the football oh okay the person that runs across the thing to get
the touchdown exactly and that's like that's an official position like you you get to be the
receiver like you get to be the quarterback quarterback throws the ball receiver catches
the ball and but i thought everybody could be a receiver theoretically yes but there's some that's
their primary role but wouldn't that just be obvious that they would be the ones targeted at all
times if everyone knows who the receiver is, as opposed to like.
That's exactly what it is.
It's very hard because they're often like, they know that if they're,
especially if it's a pass play, they know they're one of, you know,
usually three or four people that are going to get thrown the ball to them.
And when it's a really good wide receiver,
like Puka Nakua facing double, triple coverage,
the Falcons did an incredible job on him last night.
What makes a good receiver though, that they can jump up super high above all the hands
or what?
Fast, fast, strong, tall can jump.
Yeah.
Good catcher of the ball.
Yeah.
Hands or hands matter.
Um, anyways, Puka Nakua had been dominated.
Like a couple of games, he put up like 200 yards which is
a huge game well last night i need him i need the rams kicker who often doesn't score a lot of
fancy points to hang with puka nakuha like not the matchup you want to have when it's the last
players in the week last players of the season anyways like next last drive the game puka catches a touchdown which
puts me my opponent take leapfrogs me and takes the lead by one point keep in mind i still have
the kicker so if they kick a field goal to win the game i win is that a point how many points
three points well three to five points how long it is and on like the next to last play the game
there's a long pass to pukunuku the guy i don't
want to catch he catches the football going out of bounds they call it a no catch but ironic but
ironically i needed him to catch it because had he caught it i would have been losing then by
instead of one point i'd be down by three or four points however it would have set up a 50 yard field goal
the kicker probably makes a 50 yard field goal and i end up winning by a point but because they
called it incomplete they didn't even get to attempt the field goal and i end up losing the
fantasy championship by one point so imagine imagine what is it 17 weeks plus the offseason
it's a year-round league so basically like call it 20 call it call it for
five months i put time energy and effort into something for it to all come down to one play
to to you know cost me four figures low four figures but still four figures and i had i had
a parlay a player prop parlay on underdog where i had five players or five picks all four others
hit the only other thing i needed
to hit was the rams kicker to kick one more field we had one i needed to hit two or more
and that was like a 250 dollar lot like would have been so anyways long story short the player
i was rooting against next last play the game i'm rooting that the refs overturn a call to give him
a catch so my kicker gets a chance to kick a field goal. It didn't happen.
Finished runner up.
And I don't know what I'm going to do with myself now.
Now I'm actually going to have to pay.
I'm going to have to do like my to-do list and actually knock this stuff out for coffee with captain.
Because football season is over.
I mean, playoffs would be fun.
But I digress.
I could, you know, I took my five minutes.
That sucks.
Because it's not even like, I don't, obviously I'm not into sports, but I can appreciate the, like, the being so close part.
Which is more annoying than just, like, not, you know what I mean?
Like, being close at all, right?
Like, when you're like, oh, no.
I would have rather.
That sucks.
I would have rather not made the playoffs and went, like, 4- lose like that because it's like totally either way i mean i actually won a little bit
of money for runner-up but it's the opportunity cost it's the what coulda woulda shoulda like my
biggest bad beat ever was on a and i am going to tie this all into crypto i promise um so there is
a real analogy here i was it was a showdown
slate so it's just a daily fantasy game but there's only one game is all you're playing all
the players from the single these college teams or like the official states teams this was okay
so what state is the ram do you want me to guess for fun i'm sorry los angeles okay i was okay i
was like i have no idea So you probably know this one.
My worst beat of all time was a showdown slate.
So there are usually a lot of ties because you've got hundreds of thousands of people
building with the same pool of players from which one game.
It was the Chiefs playing. You know which state they're from.
This is kind of a trick question, but not really.
Chiefs? Is it Kansas?
Close. it will be
kansas it is kansas city this is the canadians know the geography of kansas city is that is
kansas um oh my god where's kansas that kentucky no i don't know so kansas city is actually
isn't it like like isn't it like it's a border city right half of it is in
missouri and half of it's in kansas and okay so can't the kansas city chiefs currently play on
the missouri side of kansas city they've just announced they're building a new stadium on the
kansas the kansas side of kansas city okay and some people unfamiliar with kansas city like
von fronten taking a shot here, he can't defend himself.
He's like, oh, what's the big deal?
Don't tell that to someone who lives in Kansas City on the Kansas side.
They take a lot of pride in which state they live in, albeit the same city.
And I will say the Kansas side is far greater than the Missouri side of Kansas City.
The only good things on the Missouri side of Kansas City is like downtown Power and Light District, all the other development, the
soccer stadium, the Olympic complex, it's all on the Kansas side of Kansas City. So anyways,
trick question. Yes, Kansas City. I said Kansas and it's going to be Kansas? It's going to be
Kansas. You were just a few years to early. So this is, we're perfect to be talking predictions
on this show this morning,
because outer is seen to the future and well aware that Kansas City Chiefs will soon be playing
soon be based out of Kansas. That was the most random. Yes, that is really funny. Yeah, I will.
I thought it was Kansas Chiefs. And then when you said Kansas City, I'm like, Oh, did I mess this up?
Is Kansas City one of those things that isn't related to Kansas State? Like instantly, I just
went like, I must have it completely wrong. I always thought the Kansas City was one of those things that isn't related to Kansas State. Like instantly I just went like, I must have it completely wrong.
I always thought that Kansas City was in Kansas, but clearly it's not.
So I'm going to pick some other state to see if maybe it goes there.
I was going to tie this back to crypto too,
because I remember there was a Super Bowl where you guys ran like whole
predictions thing as well.
I can't remember what it was in,
but we had to like go and answer all these questions.
And I remember coming in like fourth, think or third or something like i won some e just by like i just like academically approached this without any knowledge of football really and
somehow out of like i think 25 or however many folks participated like i was in the
it was in the top four or three i don't't remember now, but it was a lot of fun.
It's incredible.
Outers like the people,
like March Madness is college basketball,
like bracket style tournament they do every March.
And there's people who have won the tournament,
they'll play against friends.
They've won it by picking which mascots their favorite
or which team colors they like the best.
And they've won over people who
spend thousands of hours consuming college basketball um so the point my whole point
being way tie this all together is fantasy football a lot like crypto a lot like opportunities is I truly believe it is a game of skill.
There's a reason in my two season long leagues,
this was back-to-back finals in the dynasty.
I missed the finals in the other one,
but I've won it for the last six years.
And this isn't like, oh, look at me.
It's in the dynasty league that I just lost.
I lost my arch rival who's been in the finals like 10 of the last 20 years.
There's three of us that I think have won 75% of the championships.
And it's because it is a game of skill.
There is edge to be had, but in most games of skill, RNG still matters.
Luck still matters.
But it's one of those life lessons where some people say oh that
person just got lucky because they hit a big meme coin trade or they were farming lighter or they
put themselves in position to be lucky and they spread their surface area of luck by taking more
shots on goal by putting their shots in where they thought they had some sort of edge and maybe it wasn't an edge
on trading perps but they thought hey hyper liquid was one of the trades of the year one of the
protocols one of the darlings of this of this cycle is reflect what might be the next perp
that takes off it's easy now in hindsight to say oh lighter was would have been a good win to farm
i should have moved all my hyper liquid volumeid volume over to lighter. Instead, I'll just, my full transparent lighter
story, I moved my Fartcoin bag to lighter and traded it. When I moved it over, it was about
$1,000 worth of Fartcoin. Today, it'd be about $280. And I, long story, I got wiped out. I got
liquidated. I wasn't doing great. I was probably like down 50%. And then on, I think, 1010, I got
wiped out completely. Woe is me. I'm not'm not that bark coin would be worth 280 today instead i just got a let me double
check at current price i got a 745 airdrop doing very little volume very little trading
but there was people like phonics who put himself in position to be lucky and that lighter ended up being a good
airdrop because he saw what happened with hyper liquid i'm not going to out his not my place to
share what his airdrop was worth but it was a very solid five figures i'll say that like
Five figures, I'll say that.
Like, incredible.
Congratulations, proud of you.
And what, try to think how to connect all these dots,
more so than taking a victory lap for Phonix and Mayhem
and their big airdrops today.
I would love someone to know,
maybe you can put ChatGPT on it or another bot
and ask how many times phonics has
showed lighter in the war room.
It's at least,
I'm going to say at least 20 times shield lighter,
probably post his own ref link,
probably over 10 times if I were to guess.
And it wasn't because,
use my ref link,
use my ref link,
use my left link.
Yeah,
sure. He wanted people to use his ref link,
but it's also,
it was a protocol that he believed in.
It was when he talked about it, yes, same with Mayhem.
Both of them, they both deserve flowers here because they talked about the platform and the ease of use and why it might – they did talk about the why.
But part of that thesis was, well, perps are a thing.
Perps are a meta.
Hyperliquid airdrop was very good, did very well.
They thought they had an edge on betting on the lighter airdrop also being well.
It turns out it was a cook.
And now, again, with the whole no financial advice part, I'm not saying run out and buy the lighter, the ticker's lit.
We're talking about it.
It's too late.
Yeah, it may be a buy here.
It may be, or it might trend to zero.
I don't know.
I do know that 50%, like the only tokens in circulation right now are the ones that got airdropped.
The team and the investors are getting 50% of the tokens, which is a lot, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
It's a bad thing if they're all just going to dump their tokens,
not even on day one,
but if they all unlock in 12 months
or they start getting that sell pressure,
that's part of the struggle that Hyperliquid's dealing with now
is 10 million tokens unlock every month.
It's a lot.
That said,
I think for healthier tokens, for healthier tokenomics, and I'm not sure if Joe's out there or anyone else that wants to go deep on Nerd Island and tokenomics here this morning,
team controlling supply, whether it's Rekt and what they had arguably the most successful
brand coin or meme of, you know, a meme that's tied to a brand, we'll call it a brand coin.
There's other memes that they don't, maybe not consider themselves brand coins, but they're
absolutely tied to brands. I think Rekt, if you look at the year on a whole, there are the all
time eyes. No, but if you look back, they, one of the most successful tokens of this of 2025
from a brand coin standpoint, they control a lot of the supply.
I think especially if they're building something.
Now, maybe different, maybe going to contradict myself here.
But the other news item of the day I had, so lighter airdrop, the other one, before we get into predicting all things
that are gonna happen in 2026.
And do let us know if you have any,
anything that really, two things, Jack,
anything that really stuck out
as a memorable moment from 2025,
besides the obvious.
We'll go, we'll rattle off some of the obvious here
in a few minutes.
So anything that was a memorable moment for you in 2025.
And then do you have any bold, bold takes,
bold predictions
for 2026 because my one bold prediction i said i'll lead off with was base is going to finally
stop promoting creator coins realizing there's zero demand for these things and that's funny
part of that is like could there be a model that works? I've seen some actual constructive takes and some people share what might make them better. I'm not sure there's real demand. I'm not sure the concept of social thought. I get it. Theoretically, the concept, I understand why there's been multiple attempts, regating my time in the space.
my time in the space.
I just don't know if it works.
I don't know if there's any real demand
for people outside of the trenches.
And I think it's proof positive
when you look at the most viral posts of the year on X
and the lifespan of that creator coin
for Nick Shirley lasted about an hour.
It's run the top and back to the bottom
was about an hour.
And base is like, like oh this is how they
should i'm like that's just yeah that's not it like i just don't circle back to something you
were saying when you were talking about the airdrop this morning and mayhem and um the
crew kind of doing well um you mentioned like the perception of luck right when someone's like oh
they're so lucky you know because they got this thing.
Because they only see that outcome, right?
And that's what people share.
I think there's something to be said, though, that I think that's overlooked often.
It's not just maybe the skill of understanding and following and learning.
Much how you put the time into understanding football and following that.
Or somebody who's
really super in the trenches and is following everything that's happening there I think
networking is a big part of it because I think sometimes people are also dismissive in the space
of being like oh well they're in the cabal or they're in this gc and that's how they're always
early to things and it's like yeah but they did the work to put themselves in that gc in the first
place like it's not like you know what I mean like i think that there's a there's a like a dismissal of people establishing a network when they're in on things as like an
actual skill or you know like an actual like effort that is required but that's absolutely
the case and sure maybe sometimes you get lucky with that because you pop into some space make
some friends and now you're part of it, whatever. But like, that still you showed up to something like, like, there's still the effort required to be present
to begin with, to then add this element of luck to it. It's just something that resonated with me
and that like, I feel like networking is a skill as well to, you know, I talked with my kid about
this a lot where it's like, yes, you have to have some, you know, like full on hard skills that that matters, you know, but there's also this like notion of you understanding how to navigate the world.
Because if you're applying for a job, what's going to get you the job most of the time is who you've ended up knowing or who I end up knowing.
And that's the reality.
Like, otherwise, some AI agent is going to scan your resume.
And if it flags, maybe.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
But, like, that is nothing in comparison to somebody on the other end being like, hey, maybe we do want to talk to you about, you know, working somewhere or some opportunity.
I don't know if you agree with that or not, but I feel like there's just sometimes it's missing.
And it's like maybe that's the new thing for 26, although I think it's been the thing for years and years and years.
It's so important to cultivate that experience.
I used to join boards and you would think like, well, why would you put time in being on a board of something?
It's like I put the time in because the representatives on the board have interests that I have and that's a huge thing. You also get to grow something interesting
but more than that you network. You never know who you're going to meet on a board who might have
this one thing or you can offer them something and I think that that's a very like mutualistic
thing and maybe it sounds transactional but in some way I don't think there's anything wrong with
it being transactional. That is part of networking.
Like, how can I help you with my network?
How can you help me with yours?
It's very synergetic.
I think it's mutualistic.
And I think, like, that's actually the point of it.
I love sharing my network when I can.
And I love making those things connect for people.
And it makes me happy when it works.
And people in my network do the same thing.
And I think that that's, like, I don't know.
And I'm kind of, like, dig don't know. And I'm kind of like digressing,
but you just, you mentioned the luck
and I'm like, man,
I feel like networking is missing from a lot of this.
And it, I think, bleeds into everything
from jobs to friends,
to being invited to parties,
to being invited to conferences,
to speaking engagements,
to being in a GC when someone drops the meta
on some kind of coin you've never heard of
and you put 10 bucks in
and suddenly you like 10X. I don't know. All of that doesn't escape it.
Wholeheartedly agree. And you also made me think of something else to tuck on that string a bit is
I had not thought about the increasing importance of networking as it relates to job opportunities
in the world of AI. Like most employers already are using AI
to scan through resumes.
Most often, like your wave one is not with HR,
it's with an AI bot.
Can you get past the bots?
And that's probably gonna be everywhere in 2026.
Meaning if you even wanna get a foot in the door,
you're probably gonna have to get really lucky
or figure out,
build a better bot to get you past the bots, or you know someone who knows someone.
Networking, I think, I feel has always been important, and I think some may shy away from
that as the world becomes so online and so autonomous. I think it's the exact opposite.
I think it's going to be coming
even more important in this world.
Just like we talk about people
who are going to want more human connection
as they become increasingly more online.
I think same thing.
I think AI is by no means that it's in-state.
It's by no means perfect.
And I think it's going to be the new thing.
It's going to be so much more efficient oh
i got through a thousand resumes used to take me weeks to do and then they're going to realize
you know maybe 2027 that ai led them to hire some people that weren't the best hires and they missed
out on superstar talent because they were purely reliant on ai and i think they'll say but all the
people that came by way of reference or employee referrals or word of mouth those were ended up being our superstars
how you navigate that
be present show up i think to tying it back into crypto and crypto twitter
i'm we're obviously very biased towards the war room. And did I see other people on the timeline
talking about Lighter?
Yeah, sure.
But I don't have the same relationship
or I don't have the same inherent trust
that I do with phonics and mayhem.
Where if I see a reflink shield on Twitter,
I'm probably not clicking it.
Where I see them talking about a new protocol
that they're clearly passionate about
they think it could be a good trade or a good farm not only do i go check it out i'm asking
for the refling because i want to make sure someone that's you know i'm friends with gets
a little bit of credit if i take if i take action on their alpha and certainly not all is created
equal like and we don't run perfect in there either,
but this is just one example of a nice,
you know, nice W for those that follow a few people
who are very passionate about something.
My question though, to bring it back into crypto Twitter,
I'm going to share this post with Rahim
and then we'll get Oxy in here next and Machiavelli.
So you had the hand up a second ago.
If you want to get in here, just throw the hand back up
or maybe we're having more X issues.
But I'm curious your thoughts on this outer, before we to our hands i saw this from rahim yesterday says i once believed
joining twitter was step one for entering web 3 i no longer believe that
oh that's a really interesting take i mean i think it depends on what the purpose is like if
you're a dev entering web 3 that's definitely maybe okay take. I mean, I think it depends on what the purpose is. Like, if you're a dev entering Web3, that's definitely maybe okay, but maybe not.
Versus, I guess I go instantly into, like, the whole idea of, like, UI, UX and thinking about the audience and the profile of people, right?
Like, I think that there's still room to enter Web3 if you want to learn, you know, about the culture of the people that are here.
And I do believe that some of us are still here representing what that is.
I think the other part of this though,
and has always been like,
there's so many subreddits on this.
Like, you know, like,
like e-finance was a huge one back in the day.
Most of the alpha was dropped there
back in 2020 and 21.
In fact, it was dropped there in 27
when that boom happened.
So like, I just don't think
that these things are like mutually exclusive. So I't you know and and this post mentions was step one for entering
web3 i i don't so so you know maybe i agree in that maybe this is not step one where do we start
them though because i used to think the same thing and i hadn't had this conscious thought
and i saw like hmm if i'm onboarding a friend today that wants to become an active participant i probably would say you got to get on x you got to be on twitter join our space
i i don't know if that's the best step one it's still like it's still a home it's still a place
you got to be if you want to be a dev if you want to be an active participant it's still very much
the home ct still exists but as far as step one you know he followed up with, you basically end up doing all the ICOs and buying all the InfoFi projects
because that's what the timeline will look like. We'll fill with that.
And unfortunately he's not wrong. A lot of the large KOL accounts,
most of them are just billboards now and they're going to talk about what
they're paid to talk about or what they think they might get paid to talk
about. Some of those can be good, but that's not a filter.
That's not a good place for a step one,
where it's like, where do we send?
Like you have your best friend who's,
they know you've been in this space.
Like, you know what?
I finally picked up some Bitcoin in my ETF
or by way of an ETF in 2025.
I've been playing around with AI, working on something. I think tokenization might make
sense. I think it might make sense to bring it on chain. Do you send them to the base app?
Like where do we? This is a really good question. So here, I have a take on this because I literally
like live this in my car. I turned to my son who's 14 and I'm like hey like are you into web 3 like like what's your take like what would
it take for you to like you know be in on this i'm like what would it take for you to be like
into bitcoin and he's like i have some bitcoin and i'm like yeah okay what's going on there
and he's like oh i at school or whatever he mentioned somewhere a bunch of kids learned
about like setting up like a like a part of a mining pool or something.
So he's like, I have point zero, zero, zero. And he like keeps going with the zeros.
I know point zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, something six or whatever.
And I'm like, OK, but that's like, you know, you being in this friend circuit.
But like, what is your biggest blocker?
Like I literally asked a 14 year old what the biggest blocker to entering crypto is.
And the answer was that there is actually a mistrust
in all of these things because I was the one that taught him
not to click links in the first place.
And I mean, that was evident with him being in Roblox
and getting phished all the time, right?
So he's like, I can't just go and follow and copy trade someone
because that doesn't work.
Like he's a YouTube consumer.
His culture is very much into longer form content.
And so, especially YouTube. And and it's like but he's not
just gonna watch some random youtuber tell him what to do he's not gonna go he has a um an x
account he's been on spaces before but all of that doesn't matter because there is a trust issue
like the trust issue is actually like i think probably the biggest problem than anything else it's like do i trust
the information i'm getting and in his perspective no because he came into this space
and literally you and i were just talking about like how to set up a wallet like i know you
already launched into like you have a bitcoin etf but what if you don't even have that like
what if you literally don't know what to do never mind like with your bank like you're just a kid
and you're like maybe maybe i'm the future and crypto is the future.
Those two things make sense together.
And he's like, no, I'm not, I can't, like, I don't know how to set up a wallet properly.
So unless, you know, we do this for him and we've done that with ETH for him, there is no, like, kid versus public information.
kid versus public information so the education i think system is broken from our end to for that
onboarding piece because there is also this like don't trust links don't trust onboarding don't
trust what people say because there's a huge like prevalence of of scammers in the space
so that's that's that's like, like, so maybe step one is
joining crypto Twitter, or maybe it isn't, but I don't even know if that's like, if that's part
of the onboarding when, when at the end of the day, like it is through somebody holding someone's
hand and bringing them in. And it would be you being like, you know what, you should come to
the show because I host it because you're, you trust so i feel like it's the the trust issue is maybe what the root of some of this
is and much like my son would be like okay i trust my mom to show me how to do this i trust my dad to
show me how to do this i don't trust you know coffee with captain to show me how to do this
unless i'm told by someone i trust and i feel like even in you saying like my friend,
yes, because there's an inherent trust there.
And I think anybody we bring in,
they trust us to come in so that they,
and I've had that conversation.
I'm sure you have too.
And folks listening, you must have as well, right?
Like to your point about someone who's like,
I have some in my ETF, how do I get in?
They're comfortable because the media has fed them
that it's a scam and it's bad.
And then you're like, no, no, it's okay.
I'll show you how to do this in a way that is okay.
So it's ultimately us.
We're still the people like, you know, because there's no one source to go to.
Because even the person on Reddit is still like, well, is that real?
Is that a real link?
Are they okay?
Like, never mind somebody shilling something on
the timeline here. Like, there's no source of truth, if you will, where unless it's like a
document, right? Unless you're like deep into some kind of white paper on like the Ethereum
foundation or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, unless it's like this first principles idea.
It's really just like, okay, tell me what app to get get how do i like connect my credit card and own something it's wild that in a year in 2025 where and i saw a take earlier i'll pin it up top in a second as
well that oh this was the first bear market where we didn't retail didn't get wrecked with fraud
i'm like retail got obliterated this cycle the point of the original post was
there was no mount gox there was no ftx
so the the retail getting wrecked was speculating on mean coins and perps
i would say it's wild in a year where we didn't get wrecked with fraud,
black swan events other than 1010, whatever that was.
And we had so much favorable regulatory takes and genius act and everything
that's apparently coming for the war crypto ended and now we're in.
And yet there's still maybe
less trust than ever before and i'm not going to blame i know a lot of people would point to trump
coin all the president dropped a meme coin and then and then that that's what wrecked a lot of
people i do think i would say the hayden coins libra and all that i would say that was i think
that qualifies as fraud i think there was there was fraud in the meme coin arena, maybe more that still hasn't come to light, but
I get the point, I guess. It's just wild to me that,
is that a bold take for 2026? People actually start trusting on chain, people start trusting
crypto. I mean, this is probably way out there, but what would it even take? I mean, that's a really complex question, because I think what it would take is somehow establishing a level of comfort in the public.
I think art, to some extent, has been doing that a little bit.
And artists generally do those kinds of things right they're like this great um like
ringing the bell of like hey we'll make you feel comfortable you know with bitcoin or ethereum or
whatever chain because really it's about you collecting some kind of work of art from someone
like you know that's a common narrative and yeah i, I don't know. It's really, I think, like this whole mass adoption word, right?
Like something happens on that curve where't know you're using crypto,
which is the biggest oxymoron to this idea of onboarding onto crypto when you
are aware that you are a user of it. Right? So I don't know.
I mean like Reddit avatars, let's go to that for a second.
I don't know if anyone's seen it.
Maybe this is an important announcement to make,
but like if you want custody of any Reddit avatar stuff, if you played there, you got, what, is it a month now?
Because they're going to sunset the whole thing, and you will no longer have ownership or any of that.
And I don't even remember what year that was in CAP where everybody, I don't know, some year at some point.
But we talked about this on Spaces many times on this space when it happened.
I think Steve used to bring this up
as an example of like mass onboarding into nfts without people knowing it's nfts and
like whole like you know but but but it wasn't about like hey this is on polygon like nobody
cared right so i don't know like when i think about these mass adoption events, it's usually because nobody knows that they're being converted to,
you know, being a crypto user.
You know, like for lack of a better way of putting it.
Like, I just don't know.
Like, otherwise, it's really about the like,
hey, let me show you how nerdy and cool this is.
Well, if I could interrupt real quick.
It's the general consensus.
And like generally running through the
media and stuff like that like crypto socially even today when i talk to the average individual
it's associated with scams and mistrust you know what i'm saying like there is no general consensus
that this is safe and then now in the financial market since there's hybrid financial products
and stuff like that there's the consensus that it's okay to dabble in this and like everybody's kind of waiting to get their paws in it.
But when it comes to the overall population and people who actually utilize the would utilize
these things, there's mistrust there. And y'all said it several times. And it's with the youth,
it's with the older generation, it's with everybody. And essentially, that consensus
has to change. That mistrust needs to go away and it needs to be done properly through the media where people
say oh it's okay to look into these things or participate in these things now and oh that's an
actual immutable ledger which means anything that we record on it is official like it's there it's
not being removed like you know it's what we give it, and I don't know, like I've watched it through the media take place and I've participated
from the inside looking out, outside looking in.
And I think that as we start to develop this new economy and everything's happening, I
think we're going to see it change.
But it's a consensus.
There's like diverging views
depending on it too. Like Ethereum
I think as like this immutable ledger
like you know I have outerlumen.eth
and I don't care if you go and look at all of the
random crap I've collected in that wallet
and not so random crap like
you know going back to something that Cap and I will talk
about later. I will talk about how important
it is to me to
mark the new year with
that wallet and like the first purchase of like on January 1st, I'm going to buy something and I do
this every year and I have done it since like forever. And like, and that's open. We're all
very used to it. Like we're very much like, Hey, go check out like all the, you know, the things I
have and like how I move in the space, whatever,'t care go over to bitcoin and that is completely the opposite like you have you know having now worked in both chains like
professionally like is a complete night and day of because it's not an account space chain to begin
with right but also the fact that it's like no no i'm gonna have like 25 different addresses for all
of my different things i like i am i'm not a collector's collector, if you will.
So even those perceptions are different within crypto or blockchain. So I think that...
And then the narrative. I think Michael, you bring a good point of how what people say,
immutable ledger, or people's eyes gloss over. Everybody knows how to use water. We drink it. That's very easy to understand.
The entry to using some new tech is pretty easy.
Even AI, when it came out,
if you just opened up ChatGPT and you asked it something,
instantly you were using it.
But I think, so I agree it's the media,
but I think also in addition to that,
there isn't one single narrative
of what problem this is solving.
If you ask anybody off the street or even people in the space is like what problem is this solving
the answer is not like three words it's not simple there's no tagline for what crypto is doing
like we can and i'm somebody who is so bullish on it right like but i would have to even say okay
well there's ownership and like i can get into all of these things but they're all
like kind of not super easy to understand or get behind and like the general population wants like
a very easy tagline for what is happening and and and crypto hasn't found that yet it hasn't found
this like of course it's this obvious because the centralization people are like what the hell is
that like it's it's not even a lay term for like most people's reading level i'm not even like i don't mean to be insulting but it's just like that's what mass
adoption is yeah it's like it's got to be simple and everyone has to love it and buy into it i feel
i feel bitcoin finally made it i feel bitcoin finally like the narrative the meme of digital
gold i i think i think with the etf with the institutional adoption, I feel like that's stuck.
Bitcoin's easy to describe.
You could just say it's digital gold.
It's a store of value to hedge against inflation.
That's simple.
That's it.
Is there more than that?
Sure.
But as a simple, easy to explain, why should I hold Bitcoin?
I feel that's easy.
All the others have a branding problem, a marketing
problem. Ethereum, I thought once the ETFs went live, I thought we would get, and they started
trying to do digital oil and the world's supercomputer. And even with Tom Leifers,
all that he's done on his media tours, I still think if you went and surveyed 100 people active
in the space, what's Ethereum?
How do you describe Ethereum to someone who's unfamiliar?
You'd probably get 99 different answers, maybe 100 different answers.
It's Vitalik wearing a unicorn suit, right?
People aren't going to like this, but same thing with Solana.
I know that, oh, it's the DGN Casino.
Okay.
What is Polymarket?
Oh, it's a dj casino okay yeah what is polymarket oh it's it's a prediction market casino like
i don't know is it the dj casino like during the meme coin mania did that check out yeah
but i don't think that's gonna onboard anyone really i i don't i i think all the chains right
now other than even base right like when you once you hit like full-on l2s what the
hell's base yeah it's it's not the home of crater coins that they're trying to make it like back to
oxy i promise you're you're on deck we're gonna go to here in 30 seconds von fronten said earlier
for all things like uh sex essential exchanges with all their flaws still one of the best on
ramps for most people as they begin their journey into crypto. I agree. And I think where base has missed it is stop trying so hard to do this social fight thing
when just overlay social into the financial side of things.
Like you've got the best on-ramp.
Don't scare people off when the
first time they get on base it's they get rugged on a creator coin like it just it feels it it
doesn't feel like something that's going to drive trust a creator coin that goes to zero within 24
hours what is base like i don't know like oh so we're going to onboard the next billion people
on chain okay for what and and i'm not taking what? And I'm not taking shots at base.
Please don't take this out of context.
It's just easy to talk about as they do have a massive customer base.
They do have arguably the best on-ramp right now,
not just to get into a centralized exchange,
but to go from an exchange to quote-unquote on-chain
and become an active participant. I just feel like the, like, I, I think I get there.
Why?
I just think their execution has been poor to very poor.
Oxy appreciate your patience.
GM outer.
I am going to refill the coffee.
So if Oxy gets done, feel free to take back the mic and then we will continue this.
All this is tying together to our 2026 predictions, I promise.
Was it planned? We're going about it in kind of a backwards way after the space is audio issues.
But Oxy, take it whichever direction you'd like. That hand has got to be tired.
No worries. No worries. Good morning. Good morning.
All right. So I came up originally because we were talking about AI and jobs.
And then we start then you guys started talking about joining Web3.
And then I've got thoughts about all I guess all of it.
So we can maybe go step by step if I'm just rambling forever, just jump in.
So, OK, specifically talking about resumes and getting a job in 2026.
So, you know, I went through the whole job situation
and trying to find one, applying to a bunch of different places and trying to get like just an
interview specifically in Web3. And it's, it's nearly impossible to get a job in Web3
outside of like being an engineer, because they're just like, everyone needs engineer,
like software engineers and various engineers right now it's very difficult to get
a job in web3 unless you have something on your resume that specifically is like at coinbase or at
you know some like large crypto or or blockchain company simply because i think of the the ai
um filtering system so like myself i i'm you know i'm pretty knowledgeable about web
3 and pretty knowledgeable about crypto and blockchain i'm not knowledgeable about defy
and all these different you know complexities that probably a lot of candidates don't have
in like the normal business world but if you if like my resume did doesn't have head of DeFi or some kind of treasury manager that's
been dealing with someone's, yeah, their treasury and managing their liquidity pools or their
yield farms or what have you, because that's not on my resume and because I don't have
quote unquote real world experience in that realm, I couldn't even get an interview to talk about the experience that I've had and the knowledge that I have just simply from doing it myself.
So, like, I think that what you're saying, Cap, is spot on.
Like the looking at someone's resume, I obviously understand how hard it is to get 500 resumes and try and go through and find the best candidates.
But at the same time, solely relying on AI filtering systems or however they're set up.
I think there's a lot of candidates that are being glossed over simply because of that fact.
And I think you're spot on is like 2026 is going to come
around. They're going to find that a lot of candidates maybe aren't what they're looking for
or weren't exactly like the right fit simply because they didn't have that one-on-one
conversation or didn't look at it with a human perspective that leaves a lot to be desired when
it comes to the whole interviewing and onboarding a new new employee process so
i just wanted to speak to that you know from a personal perspective and i think it's a very real
very real issue there um let's let me get to respond to that but i don't know perfect yeah
i was gonna say if you could get in on that and then i have a quick follow-up and go right back
to oxy yeah that sounds great um i think and this is kind of one of the reasons why I brought up this like AI agent resume thing in the first place,
is that like, I don't actually believe that the best way to get a job in Web3 is through applying Cole to anything.
I think it's one of the few spaces where there were so many opportunities to get involved as a community member, to show off skills.
Like every project has had like builders in it.
Or even like something like base, where if you were on Farcaster at some point and chatting there, like there's just or even going to like some of the conferences and networking.
Like I really think networking was a huge part of that um and i think that when you network then you were
able to make those kind of connections and then go oh okay and that's what i mentioned about like
having a like an actual skill set that i think makes sense but i don't know if i agree that
it's necessarily just for devs either i think if i had to push back on that probably just reflecting
on my own career journey
in Web3, like I'm a UI UX designer.
So obviously that's a very like specific skill set
that I have.
But also like it was the entire thing
was about who I ended up meeting
and what I knew and what I was doing.
I have not applied to a single thing.
And I've been working in Web3
for like how many years now?
So like, because I knew
that that's not how this this not how this industry works to begin with and I don't know maybe like
it's a good idea to revisit this as like a resolution or whatever like I put time and effort
into getting to know people um and showing off the skills that I have so like in working with
hash masks when I started doing that was literally because i ended up getting one going into the discord and just being a very active member doing things that are
in like joined in my skill set like the best way to show off what i can do is just by doing it
and so i ended up doing a bunch of things and i joined as creative director there
met somebody there who left who ended up pulling me into yuga labs where i worked as a ux designer on gaming
right like all that had nothing to do i didn't even have that on my bingo card i did not apply
to yuga i was not it could not care less but my friend was like i need your help you have a specific
skill set that i have seen from before i want to pull that in and then the same with the wizard's
journey but i think to your point too like because i already had yuga behind me, it's like, oh, well, this person has worked there.
So this is good.
And then again, it comes right back to the fact
that I was just doing these quests
that the wizards had,
showing off the skills that I have.
There was no resume handed in.
I don't know if I need to peel back
this wizard curtain or what
to just stress the fact that
it's not even about being against an AI agent like everyone else is on the hiring side it's
really truly about like getting noticed by the people that are doing those things and how you
get noticed is by being present and showing off the thing that you want to do like you know if
you have several skill sets then show off the one you want to work in, right? Like,
I have a ton of other skill sets, but that's, but I wanted to work in this industry specifically
as a UI UX person. And that's what I ended up, because that was the goal.
Is there an ask? Have you ever asked, have you ever like shot your shot or all them
inbound proactively, you reached out, Wizards reached out and said, we would like to recruit
you for this? Or did you, after being, you you know showing your skill sets with the wizard stuff being involved whether it's
wizards or hash masks and then you said hey if you're ever looking for something i'd love the
chat was there ever any even like a light soft ask by you or was it all inbound that's a really
question um i think it made sense to come on the hash masks team because we were just like forming
like a team that would run the thing because the original founders were not going to do that.
So that made sense. And then I was specifically asked for Yuga.
And then for the Wizards, I heard two of the members in a space and I'm like, oh, man, this is really cool.
Because like having now worked in Ethereum and have gotten to know Ethereum as well as I know, it was very interesting for me to return to Bitcoin because it wasn't like a stretch for me.
Like, I mean, you know, we've been in Bitcoin since 2013.
It's not like I wasn't aware what Bitcoin was doing, but it was just not as fun.
Bitcoin, like, yes, now it's like gold, digital gold.
But at the time, like before Ornals, before all those things like it just wasn't fun and there's
so many purists and laser eye maxis and naysayers about keeping that chain so pure that like it
just itself was kind of draining and not fun and ethereum was like hey how about we put art on
chain how about there's a pfp like resurgence like all of these things were so exciting but then i
was like well how do you build on bitcoin like because it's also very restrictive it's still
proof of work.
Whereas Ethereum went to proof of stake.
Like this is all these like fascinating things to me that I wanted to learn.
And so to answer your question,
it was more of like a conversation in one of the team members just being
like, Hey, I have this skillset.
Oh, we are looking for that.
And so like, it just kind of was very synergetic in that way.
So it wasn't like a direct, I need a job.
It was like, I'm open to a job. If there is a job that makes sense. And it's like, Oh, actually I think that that works. So it wasn't like a direct, I need a job. It was like, I'm open to a job.
If there is a job that makes sense. And it's like, oh, actually, I think that that works.
So it was very casual.
Someone say you're lucky. Oh, Lauder got lucky. She worked at Yuga.
Yeah, it's not luck. It's actually me putting a lot of work into do that.
First of all, I put work into being a really good UI UX designer. Years of work doing that.
That's not luck.
Not at all.
And then I put even more effort into being on spaces and meeting people in this space.
A lot of effort because it's important to me because I love people.
I do think.
And we go right back to that, like luck versus networking.
Exactly.
This is not luck.
This is networking. This is not luck. This is networking. In that networking, you increased your surface area as far as opportunities for sure.
I think some people think that it's enough just to be active in a community, rock a PFP, get in the Discord, bullpost them on the timeline.
That might. It depends. It does depend. get in the discord bull post them on the timeline that might it depends it might be okay but if you're looking for a job maybe not yeah but i think i want to like throw back to oxy too because i
like the reason why i kind of went off on this tangent for a second is because i actually want
to see you succeed in what you want and so i'm like okay how can i how can i help like how does
how does it how can i like i don't know if any of that was helpful and not you tell me,
maybe you have like a completely different take on it. But in my mind,
I'm just like,
how can you show off the very thing that love doing and want to do in a way
where people already know about the thing that you're up to and they're like,
they're kind of aware of it. Or, you know, like if you, if you,
if there's like a North star company that you want to work for,
what are some of the things that you can do now where you know you can start meeting some of the people
that are involved in that so that it's not just like your resume in their ai it's more like who
are the key players there and that i'll just say that oxy will go right to you i'll just say that
doesn't work i mean you might get lucky but as someone who has rocked a Yuga PFP from the day they
met it out until present, it's been active.
I've applied to one company in crypto.
It was Yuga.
Probably, I don't know, somewhere between six and 12 times in 21, 22, never even got
an interview.
One time I applied, I got an email back.
That was it.
That's it and and this
isn't a shot at garga but he was it wasn't his fault it was they hired some corporate hr executive
who was just scanning resumes and mine even though it was you know far more
much better background than most the people in crypto and3, it didn't have any of those Web3 names on it.
And I never asked.
I never did the intentful networking that I think you've done in some cases.
And then followed up, mine was, hey, I'm active.
I'm here.
I'm supporting the community.
And oh, by the way, I'm applying, so they should at least give me a call.
And they didn't.
And I think that I share that story.
And this isn't like, woe is me, I don't care.
We're way past that day.
My point, overarching point being is that I feel as if the world's even more difficult
to get that interview today than it was even in 21, 22.
Now with AI, it's like, good getting even a an interview somewhere if you don't
you're not showing up if you're not networking if you don't find a connection that's not some ai
agent go ahead oxy and feel free to answer any of this that out and i threw back and then uh
continue your thoughts i know you had a few yeah no and so so i i hear I hear you. Like, I think, I think that was, different bracket than I, or like different world that I'm
living in where it's, I'm a, you know, I'm a finance person. I'm a CPA with a ton of finance
and accounting experience and trying, trying to get like those types of positions. I think it's
a different way to go about it than some other industries or other fields.
So I applied to Coinbase, Kraken, Magic Eden, Yuga, you name it, positions that I was, quite honestly, way overqualified for.
My experience outside of having that Web3 in crypto experience on my resume um like way overqualified for way more
years of experience like way way more experience with you know international accounting because of
just the jobs i've had so excuse me so um i think it's just uh i know it's a weird it's a weird
field to be in like in the i don't even know what the what the word I'm looking for is like this, the accounting, finance, probably marketing even nowadays, like obviously you can get a community manager role through a discord or a Twitter or a position that's you know has benefits has like a you know a salary that's
like that can compete that has a retirement plan like that is like a full-time position that is
sustainable long-term other than just chatting in a discord or something like that like it's
a different world than just dming with dming just cold DMing someone like it used to be
and getting that position, in my opinion.
And that's just my experience, I guess.
No, I agree.
I think you're probably spot on.
Can people still get a Discord mod job by showing up and being really active in Discord?
my job by showing up and being really active in the discord yeah absolutely but if you're talking
Yeah, absolutely.
a not even c-suite just a leadership role a a management role in anything that's not dev or
you know engineer based good luck like you you can be overqualified and you're probably not
going to even get a call back or an interview unless you actually network and do some of this stuff to create your own luck, essentially.
But go ahead and I know, again, you had a couple of topics.
Feel free to take it on whichever one you'd like.
And then we'll get to I see Matthew's coming up.
We'll get Matthew in here, Jonah and Poppy as well as Mac.
Yeah. And ironically, so it kind of goes into the next point
where we were talking about, I guess, onboarding into Web3,
but I think it's also like talking about getting a job into Web3.
And ironically, my biggest success has been through LinkedIn.
And like the people there that have, like, it genuinely feels like,
especially right now, there's more content and like people who are willing to engage with that type of content on LinkedIn than even CT right now.
And like probably has been for like, I've been looking at it probably more so for the last six months or so.
So one, for job positions, LinkedIn and Web3 has honestly been, it's a goldmine over there,
how many positions are opening and how many people are actively looking for people in
the professional space, like accounting and finance and what have you.
It's blown up recently as far as what people are looking for.
And I don't think that's a good way to onboard someone into crypto, but that kind of leads
into my next point a little bit of what is Ethereum?
And you guys are talking about like, okay, why would anyone care about Ethereum over
Bitcoin or what have you?
And I think this idea of tokenize everything is kind of like this shoehorn that's kind of forcing itself into merging Web3 and traditional finance.
And I mean, you hear like the politicians talking about, oh, we're going to tokenize every single stock.
Everything's going to be on chain.
This is going to be the way forward. And I really do see
a use case there that makes a lot of sense when it comes to one, you know, transacting or like
trading stocks and being on chain, I think is a very, very good use case for crypto and blockchain
generally. And Robinhood's obviously doing that with their partnership with Arbitrum and the various L2s that have been onboarding traditional stocks.
I think there is something there that you're kind of saying tongue in cheek, you're using crypto without knowing it's there.
But when it comes to traditional finance and crypto
and using blockchain to trade these instruments,
I think there's actually a lot of opportunity there
to onboard these traditional finance folks
because of the different vehicles that we have here
in crypto and Web three that aren't easily or like
super transparent when it comes to the traditional finance side. So for instance,
if I'm a fund manager, you know, I'm like, I'm bullish on Tesla and NVIDIA. I want to hold this
and I want to like, it's my, it's a, it's a 12 month hold. I'm just going to hang on to this.
Like, it's a 12-month hold.
I'm just going to hang on to this.
Like, what prohibits them from holding that in tokenized stocks and throwing that into a double-sided liquidity pool that, in theory, would go up in the same amount of, you know, percent or whatever they're going to hold for a long-term anyway, and then earn yield on that?
hold for a long-term anyway, and then earn yield on that.
I feel like that's an interesting...
The concept of DeFi in the traditional finance sense
actually feels like there's some use cases there
that could onboard the traditional finance folks
to crypto and Web3,
but in almost like a backdoor sense
because it's just the natural progression
of the way traditional finance is going to be trading.
I don't know if I was super clear on that,
like what I was trying to say there,
but I think there is like some kind
of onboarding opportunity there
as to like, I don't know,
the traditional finance side
and like crossing paths with the crypto
and DeFi side of things.
Yeah, I think you're onto something.
And I think that very well could be something we see in 2026
is tokenizing equities, tokenizing stocks,
unlock things you could do with them,
make them more productive
than just sitting in your E-Trade account
or your Robinhood account.
Circling back to Von Fronten's comment in the chat from earlier, and then we'll bring in Matthew.
Perfect segue from talking TradFi.
No offense, Matthew, but I saw you giving the emojis when he was talking about when he was bullposting LinkedIn.
Von Fronten added, oddly enough, BASE's largest competitor is Coinbase.
Coinbase keeps adding functionality to its main product,
leaving less room for BASE to differentiate itself.
It's funny because one of the things I was going to talk about
was the evolution of ICOs when we talk about 2026 predictions.
There's a world where people participate in these ICOs
and they never leave Coinbase.
They don't even make it to BASE
because Coinbase has brought in all those features there.
Not saying it keeps them siloed out of coming on chain, but hadn't thought about Coinbase directly competing with what base is building and why base.
space. But yeah, Matthew, GM, always a pleasure. What brought you up this morning? LinkedIn?
But yeah, Matthew, GM, always a pleasure. What brought you up this morning? LinkedIn?
GM, Cap, hope you're doing well. Well, just to Oxi's point about looking for work, one of the
things I did, it's a great conversation as people look to kind of look into 2026 and how they can
expand their opportunities, especially if they're looking to work in the Web3 space. And one of the
things, just to provide a little bit of advice, a couple years
ago, I was in very much the same boat. I'm on Twitter, I'm on Spaces, hopefully chatting with
UCAP, responding to folks, trying to just network my way into it and speaking on any opportunity I
could, but also recognizing that there's a wonderful Venn diagram here between traditional
and digital assets. And what I did was I took 60 days, spent $500 and became a registered investment advisor. And that allowed me to be able to differentiate myself, which is a huge, huge opportunity for people in the space because of the expertise that you have about Web3, your personal expertise.
piece. One way that you should work to differentiate yourself is not so much being the Web3 space,
but being the weird crypto person in the traditional space. There's so much need for
the information that we have and the experience that we have dealing with wallets, moving assets,
helping people understand why these things are important, and helping them understand the story
and the narrative behind Web3. We helped control that. So I took
a little bit of time, a little bit of money, and it was the best investment I made it myself.
Not only because you're a registered investment advisor, you can give financial advice, but
all of a sudden you have an expertise about assets that nobody else in the traditional
asset space really has. Not only that, it made me an accredited investor. So if you don't have the
income limits to participate in private investments like pre-IPO stages or alternative VC investments,
getting a Series 65 allows you to do that by default. And the last thing I'll say here is
that there is a huge growing demand for registered investment advisors in the space. They're
projecting by 2024 that they're going to need 100,000 more of these people
to be able to help work with AI agents and help you build wealth sustainably for the long term.
So I just encourage folks, when you're interested in working in Web3,
I think that that's a really good place to be.
But remember that there is a huge ocean out there for people in the traditional space
that have no
idea what these assets are like so if you can highlight your experience and kind of look in
the other direction you can stand out and differentiate yourself and i think that
along with any internal referrals that you can get you know applying to jobs nowadays is just
a joke unless you have an internal referral um you know those things combined can really help
you stand out so i just wanted to come up and and say that. Hope all is well and hope you have a great New Year cap.
Likewise. Happy holidays to you and yours. And today I learned I had no idea. I've been fortunate
to qualify for a few years now. I've been able to participate in some of these, for instance,
the mega E ICO. There was a lot of people said, oh, I'd like to, I just, I can't, I mean,
I live in the States. I don't qualify as an accredited investor. I had,
I like my understanding,
the ways to get there was million dollars in that liquid net worth,
not including your primary residence or 200 K annual income.
200 K, 200 K annual income for the past two years.
If you're single and you expect it this coming year,
300k for the last two years if you're married and expect it for this current year,
1 million in net worth excluding your primary residence. And then the fun option C is,
oh, if you have a credential like a Series 7, a 63 or 65, you automatically qualify for an
accredited investor status. That is kind of wild to me.
I got a new goal in 2026.
How?
I was going to say.
How does it?
Okay, so.
So one of the benefits of becoming a registered investment advisor
is you don't have to be sponsored by a firm either.
So a Series 7 or 63, a firm actually has to sponsor you
to be able to get that credential.
But to be a registered investment advisor, you could go on FINRA, go on Kaplan, enroll in the program.
You can take it, I think, once a month.
The total cost for me was maybe $150 to take the exam, and then I spent $250, $300 on the Kaplan stuff, which you should 100% do.
You go take the test.
You become a registered investment advisor.
You become a registered investment advisor. You become
accredited. You're given a CRD number, which is your accreditation or like your credential number.
The one caveat is that to practice giving investment advice, you must be part of a firm.
So you can't just give investment advice as an individual. You must be part of a firm.
But that doesn't negate the ability for you to become an accredited investor, because what's going to happen is you'll go to any of these
websites to provide information about your accreditation status. You'll either need to
get your CPA to write you a note that says that you meet the net worth requirements or the income
requirements, or you can just provide a CRD number, which is registered with FINRA and the SEC,
provide a CRD number, which is registered with FINRA and the SEC.
And all of a sudden you are automatically qualify.
So series seven or 65, you need a, you need a sponsor.
63 and seven, you need a sponsor, but a 65, you do not need a sponsor.
You literally can pay 150 bucks, take the test, pass the test.
Like you said, a couple hundred bucks for the course and the education,
which you should get, educate yourself. But you, you, it's wild to me because I've even heard people that are much
more savvy in that world than I, the all in crew, the billionaires on there talk about how
accredited investing laws in the U S are messed up and there should be a test. Like you shouldn't
gatekeep this to only those of a million dollars net worth or the 200K for individuals, 300K for families or married.
It is. It exists.
It's a side door for sure.
For sure.
It's a $150 test.
You need to pass it, but you don't need a sponsor.
Anyone, unless I'm mistaken, any U.S. resident can go take this test, pass the test.
You're an accredited investor.
You can't give advice if you're not working with a firm, but you're qualified to become an accredited investor once you pass this test. Yeah. I mean, I walked
out of there and I basically had a confirmation and a CRD number gets created in the system within
a day or two once you are able to confirm the status of it. And four sections to the test,
the first is basically just all the legal stuff you need to know, which is actually probably the most confusing part, a little bit
of economics, a little bit of finance, and then like ethics. So it's not intense from a math
perspective at all. You definitely need to know your stuff. It was a 70%, you know, if you get a
C minus on the test, you'll pass it, you need a 70% passing rate. And I think it's 90 questions or something like that. Incredible. Yeah. I had no idea that you could actually test into this and
more people should know. I think this is a big deal. I mean, for many reasons, not just so you
can become an accredited investor and participate in things like ICOs, we don't qualify from the
financial thresholds, but to your point, there's already demand for these types of individuals. It's only going to get bigger, I feel.
There's $100 trillion, I would just apply it to another RIA firm yesterday,
but there's $100 trillion of wealth that is moving from the old, old boomers into their
younger generation. And they're not going to want to deal with their traditional advisor.
They're going to want to be figuring out
how they can be in prediction markets
or Robinhood or digital assets
or whatever the case is.
And none, I promise you,
I've talked with a lot of them,
none of these investment advisors
either allow their advisors to solicit.
I got recruited by one and they said,
hey, build a book of business.
You can make a bunch of money.
And I'm like, can I talk about crypto? They're like, absolutely not.
I'm like, why the hell would I want to join this firm? If like my, my unique status in this place is an understanding of this asset class. And none of these advisors are going to allow their own
team to help you, you know, build it and build wealth this way. It's just ridiculous. So if you
want to stand out, like, and differentiate yourself yourself that was my whole goal and it worked out really well well done and appreciate you sharing i have
um i want to share some some comments on this matthew right who's speaking yes okay sweet um
i mean yeah that's i i feel like i feel like you just inspired a ton of people who take
this accreditation that's That's pretty amazing.
You mentioned two things.
I think one that you just mentioned about made me realize that tax experts that deal with crypto are also, you know, important. I remember a lot of people, time of tax season, also wanting folks that could understand that, especially folks that don't do their own taxes.
There's lots of software that can obviously navigate all of that. But for some of the other
folks that don't use it, that's another potential. And then I wanted to mention something based on
what you said about LinkedIn. I think absolutely in certain sectors, it's like a banger play to
go in there and be like, yeah, I do this, you know, Web 2 thing, but I'm also Web 3 expert,
and be like, yeah, I do this, you know, Web 2 thing,
but I'm also Web 3 expert, ask me anything.
But there are some sectors where, as we've established earlier,
we were talking to Machiavelli too about how, like,
there is a PR problem and people think crypto is bad.
So there is a negative sentiment in association with that.
And so you have to be strategic about how you want to play in that space
because sometimes it's actually a negative
to associate yourself with crypto,
depending on the sector you are in.
So I just wanted to make sure
that we kind of address both sides of that,
where like I think if you're in the financial space
or, you know, that makes sense.
I think in some other spaces,
it may make less sense for you to actually admit that
if there's already like a stigma
in that sector against that. So just wanted to make sure that people recognize that and are careful about it
i for one do not put anything on my linkedin related to that because i used to be a government
consultant and the government at the time the canadian government anyways very much
not into that so if when i was in like the science communication and tech communication and
information design space, like there is all of my colleagues are all taking those stances and
so are my clients. And so it's like, that would make no sense for me to be like, Hey guys, guess
what? I know how Ethereum works. Like, no, absolutely not. Uh, so yeah, I think you have
to be very strategic about like how, how, how very strategic about how to play that LinkedIn game.
Of course.
Yeah, and exactly.
I'm a crypto expert and everyone's like, oh, no thanks.
I'm a scammer.
And exactly to your point, if you don't have a finance background, it's going to be a hard sell to have this credential and then try to get into a business you know a business like that so it helps if you have a finance background or if it's something
you're interested in oxy one last thing if you are interested i would try to reach out to a company
called my crypto or it's crypto tax girl they are like this really cool organization that's doing a
bunch of tax crypto tax specific work in the space and they just recruited somebody from the irs
to come work with them as an advisor so if you do you, you know, you're a CPA, like I know they hire a bunch of people to,
because they have a lot of demand, but that could be of interest as well.
I love it. Look at this. We, I was not expecting to get the coffee with Captain Pump for both
crypto jobs and accredited investors. We, we, we just birthed at least a dozen accredited investors
in 2025 that are going to take this test.
I am going to take it, Cap.
Mark my words.
I will be hooting and hollering as soon as I have it.
I also have to give the best producer in the game a quick shout out.
Payne caught it before anyone else that I had misspelled predictions in the title.
I don't know what it means.
I'll leave all of you to determine that.
But I'm just going to tell you it was on purpose.
It was a way to pay homage to Steve because someone out or mentioned to beat a dead horse.
It made me think of Steve.
I misspelled the title.
And I also feel the need I need to,
I wouldn't be doing my job as Steve's buddy
if I didn't reference,
also educate you all on,
don't go Google this. I think this is exactly how he would all on, don't go Google this.
I think this is exactly how he would say it.
Don't go Google it.
But man, some of those things like,
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater,
to skin a cat.
There's some pretty gross sayings out there
that every time that someone said one of these,
I felt we got the education from Steve on the others.
And so yeah, that was my way of paying homage to Steve
with the misspelling in the title. But in all seriousness, really on the others. And so, yeah, that was, that was my way of paying homage to Steve with the misspelling in the title,
but in all seriousness, really enjoyed the conversation.
We will get into some actual, some additional predictions, but I think,
I think all this checks out.
I do think it's more of us going to them to just summarize my TLDR.
My quick takeaway from this morning's conversation thus far is it's not about onboarding TradFi and the quote unquote normies to crypto.
It's us going to where they're at and educating them.
The tech's going to be obfuscated.
They're not going to need to understand how to run a node or how to bridge something.
It's just going to work if things keep progressing as it is.
And so it's like, where do the opportunities lie where there's a lot of people that are going to
use this tech, whether it's current iteration or the next iteration of it and go there,
become a big fish in a small pond. And for some of you may roll your eyes when we talk about LinkedIn,
I wouldn't be surprised if the next big up and coming quote unquote crypto creator ends up doing so in a channel that's not crypto Twitter.
I'm not saying crypto Twitter is dead.
But when you talk about tying it back to Raheem's take of like the first step in onboarding someone to crypto, it's probably not bringing them to crypto Twitter.
It's go to where they're at.
I think it's how I get it on this.
Based on this conversation, that's how I'm going to answer it now. It's like, don't bring them here.
Go to where they're at and be normal. But you do so understanding this tech and all of it can unlock.
Yeah, really, really enjoying the conversation. I saw, Jonah, you popped up. Jonah, are you
aura farming this morning or did you want to get on the crypto predictions for 2026?
Or anything else we've been talking about this morning?
Mostly aura farming.
Farmer.
Mostly aura farming.
Crypto prediction for 2026.
CT will still be upset.
Will still be upset.
That's probably an accurate take.
It doesn't matter what it is
they're going to be upset and they're going to be
broke and they're going to lose their money again.
Crypto Twitter
is always upset unless they get free money
and then they blow it about a month later and then they're
upset again. I still got my monad.
There's going to be a lot of free money coming
in 2026 by way of big airdrops
so maybe they won't be upset
until...
I don't know about that.
I'm not convinced by
that. I mean, if everyone got the...
They won't be upset with... They will be upset with the number
cap. You already know this. I don't know.
If they get $100,000, they'll wish they got $101.
We have MegaEath coming.
I think Phonics is
probably happy with the airdrop we got from
lighter this morning it wasn't 100 grand but I don't see him complaining um there's and as we
talk about reflecting on the year while there was probably a few people who hit on all of them
there was several big opportunities to make a lot of money on this app for being early to protocols
and it didn't and like you didn't have to trade a single meme coin to get there
you know hyper liquid and now lighter just to name two yes did you have to participate in a
you know trading perps yes but there's also delta neutral ways to do that, whether it's these perp dexes, whether it's prediction markets, there's ways that you can participate, be a beta user without putting significant capital at risk while still doing material volume that ends up becoming a nice reward.
um we will if anyone has any comments on the the crypto predictions for 2026 uh anything that
joining in the conversation we had throw up a hand we'd love to get to you um if not we will
keep things moving as we're already approaching we got 20 minutes till 10 o'clock and a few other
things to hit on outer the one prediction that i think maybe is not just a prediction, but also a discussion point is, I do think that we will see, I kind of alluded to earlier, I It's not just going to be how MegaEath did
it and how Monad did it. And I think the fact that Coinbase is involved in their acquisition
of Echo, I think that matters. But I think, you know, we talk about the teams controlling large,
large percentage of the token. I think an evolution, not just doing things that worked
in the past, even if it was recent past, but
building upon them and making small tweaks every time.
In fact, I think we talk about the free airdrop money.
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those aren't just airdrops, but rather it's your
opportunity to participate in their ICO.
I think they're not perfect.
I do think it's going to take on a different form.
I pinned up an article up top.
I don't know if you saw Cedify with what they just launched.
They're calling it an IMO, an initial milestone offering.
It's essentially an ICO, but instead of getting 100% of the funds,
the team gets 20% at launch, and then the rest of the funds in the presale
are released to them after hitting milestones.
And presumably, if they don't hit, the money is refunded or you have a claim on your presale
investment.
I don't know as if IMOs is going to be it.
I think it probably still follows, still called an ICO to some degree.
Thoughts on that?
Do you think, am I crazy to think ICOs could become, not in the exact current form, but a new improved ICO could be the leading meta of 2026?
Is that in range even?
I mean, I think so.
It could be.
I'm waiting for this to load so i can see your uh
the actual post or maybe you could share your screen if you have it up i will pull it up here
yeah uh they posted this uh on the 25th so it's a couple days ago i had we didn't end up talking
about it on the show i don't think i might have shared it but we didn't cover it uh but but
essentially you know they open you know getting rugged after tge shouldn't be part of the game anymore introducing initial
milestones offering it's time for the ruggers to cry now
again i'm not saying this is it but i appreciate them doing something different and goes back to the trust thing. And as TradFi and on-chain worlds start to merge and meet each other,
I do think fundraising has always been a part of crypto,
from the original ICO days to NFT events for raising early funds
to just straight pre-sales, here's my wallet address,
to the ICOs we're seeing now where there are parameters, there are guardrails, there are,
you've got to be accredited if you're in the US. Your tokens have to lock for 12 months.
I think we're heading in the right direction and i'm not saying this is also a double-edged
sword like it can also get a lot of people wrapped in the sense that raheem's earlier
point called out yeah people are just going to see the the latest info 5 pump and you know the
ico that's being shilled and they're probably going to pick bad ones because it's just loudest
because people are being paid to talk about it that's not it that's not the evolution i'm referencing but um not there's not an article
or a thread per se there is a 54 second video here but is this uh i'll try to make it i don't
want to get dmca'd so i'm going to mute the Eminem background music, but the video should be playing on the screen
for those that are watching the live stream.
Thoughts on this, Otter?
You know what?
I think I lost you when I shared my audio for some reason.
Hold on one second.
We're back at this again.
Note to self, don't share audio tabs because that'll glitch us out again.
I'm going to unplug plug.
We'll be right back.
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Check.
So y'all come here often?
Yep.
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Check, check, check.
Just on Tuesdays.
Still no matter.
Sheesh.
Unbelievable.
Why did I have to share that?
Yeah.
What did I do?
What did I do to myself?
All right.
Check again.
Oh, no.
Hey, we're back.
We're back.
Test, test.
We're back.
Okay, perfect.
So you reminded me of something that, like,
tangential to what C-Defy, like, Seedify is doing in this novel approach to something.
Obviously, most people, I assume, know the whole Tokenworks thing where it's on the side of Punk Token and all the other projects that launch the whole token meta. But something else they did is they allowed artists to seed raise, if you will, to support an artist.
And I participated in the one for Brian Brinkman.
There was 100 of these things.
And so I can't remember how much it was.
It was like 0.3 ETH or something times 100.
And so he got all that ETH.
But for a year now, he's shipping us art and
a whole bunch of different things and we actually have a collector's call every month and we've now
received an artwork I think some of them have sold for like 0.2 I don't know like you could
have had some of that back and also at any point in time you can just like refund this thing and
be out if you want to be but and I'm i'm using this analogously in a way because
i'm less likely to participate in cedify's thing but i see this analogous to the things i would
participate in which is this like new meta of an artist raising before they do anything like
he raised the support and now with the finances raised he's shipping us stuff it's kind of an
interesting like different approach
to this that i'm actually finding quite enjoyable because half the time i've forgotten that i've
done this and then i get pinged and i'm like oh there's art coming or oh how interesting there's
like something that's going on or wow i got airdropped something in my wallet like i don't
know it it's been kind of fascinating to me to like to participate in something where there's like
a future to it as opposed to like you just buy the thing and it sits there which i'm okay with
as a collector but so i wanted to bring that up and then the other thing that i wanted to bring
up that's on my list that i don't want us to miss out on is this does anybody remember nftx the pool
where they have punks they have apes they have
all the things do you remember that like you could like instantly drop your nft in there for
whatever price okay so they're ending their ui support completely so they still have all of
these tokens in their vaults and on contract you can't interact with it but there'll be no more front end like
talk about no usability or whatever they have all the like the string female punks i think
pretty much because like that was decided that was like not the trade anybody wanted but
aside from that i just wanted to like i don't know if anyone else has been following this
probably not because who cares about like vaulted nftx pools but it was on my
radar and i i thought i would mention that because i i'm kind of interested to know like is someone
going to cook a front end up like what's going to happen to these these assets because there's
quite a few vaulted assets for like some of the major collections i mean they you know the contracts
aren't going anywhere like
that part is fine but shutting down the entire front end for this kind of makes this disappear
into the ether pun intended so i wanted to bring up a prediction perhaps or look back on 2025 slash
26 as to like i don't know i just checked the project that I think I'm going to buy as my first NFT for January 1st.
And I bought like a few of them every year and I've had decent years.
And it's kind of funny because last year I didn't do that. I bought something else and I've had a terrible year.
So now I'm thinking I'll go back and buy it.
And like I was worried that there'd be none for sale because it's such an old, stupid project.
they'd be none for sale because they're like such an old stupid project.
But yeah, this thing has,
there's like a bunch of versions of it too.
Like you're looking at the use NFTX version two,
they had a version three, but they're ending all of them.
Like no more support.
I think like to this,
I think we'll see the end of a lot of NFT protocols in 2026.
I think there'll be a few that survive.
I think most will, I don't want to say hard pivot out,
but I think they will become like a quote unquote everything app,
i.e. OpenSea going from the NFT marketplace to a place to just to trade tokens and more.
I just don't think there's room in the space for many of those.
I think we could see the end of, not blur because it's used primarily,
it's used more in the DeFi arena as far as like the NFT lending and whatnot.
But you see Gandhi taking away a lot of market
i've not checked i haven't looked at the on-chain data but i wouldn't be surprised
to see someone like uh nft5 which was the the og the original nft5 lending protocol
i don't know this they could be thriving i'm just i haven't seen them on the like my
attention sphere is more blend loans by way of blur and in and gandhi i don't hear anyone talking about
bendow anymore or nft5 and
like not only is it kind of sun setting but like when i looked at the tweet from nftx like
nobody cared it was it it was very fascinating to me because
this was something that was like such a huge thing 21 yeah the comment that we're shutting
down on january there's 21 likes five comments literally no one cared no and and and like
we we we know that makes sense because no one's paying attention to this anyways.
But that doesn't, like, there are still collections that are trading that, you know, are locked up in these contracts.
And I don't know, I find that part fascinating.
Like, there's something really interesting about this, like, I don't know.
It's when, like, NFT history will really be nft history like we're
approaching that like five-year mark for me i guess or whatever six years i don't know but like
at some point it'll be a decade or maybe it'll be like 15 years or something i'm just like wow okay
what's in the nftx pool right now you know i don't know there's there's like
there's something i almost want to like use the word romantic or something or nostalgic or
whatever that like you know when when you like visit a town you haven't been in in a long time
when you go back and you're like oh look there's the post office or whatever i don't know there's
a school i went to this feels like that and maybe i'm just being like warm and fuzzy for the
end of end of 2025 but like there's there's there's something about this like nft nostalgia and i feel like
that tweet was very much that to me i was like wait nftx exists right and like that was the
primer just as you just mentioned blur i'm like oh yeah blur i forgot about blur like completely
like yeah of course it exists now that you mentioned it i remember it but like not on my
radar to to think about because i just do not care like but you're right i should
like maybe i maybe i maybe my new meta is like going back in and looking at some of the
some of the stuff that was at one point relevant and then like is now being sunset i agree with
you the overall sentiment of like 2026 is a year of maybe like a good turn of flushing out things that crypto no longer needs.
copy pasta i'm not saying low effort some of this stuff i'm sure took
serious dev work to spin up and but the reality is
nfts as
collectibles as high velocity high frequency items to trade
hard hard to see a lot of platforms supporting that like i just i logged into an old i logged
into an old browser and i saw some of my saved bookmarks were rarity tools i'm talking like 10
different rarity tools and and i had this cooked up like last time i was going to share my screen
i don't have it for today and like who cares but it was really funny to click on them and see how
many of them were just like you know 404s4s, like they no longer exist, right? I forgot half of them, but that was like such a thing, you know, we relied on them so
heavily. And now, you know, all of that stuff is just like, who cares? Who looks at a rarity tool?
It doesn't even matter. It became part of marketplaces anyways. But yeah, all that to say
on a zoom out level, how like the tech is shifting and changing based on the buyer behavior and the things that
are interesting and based on the markets and i don't know 2026 is going to be an interesting
year i guess maybe like for making a prediction um i hope maybe this isn't even a prediction, maybe this is more of a hope, but I do hope that there is some kind of like final something that happens with some kind of metaverse somewhere.
Whether it's the fact that we all hate them or the fact that one is booming, like I don't even care.
I don't even care, but I just, I don't know.
But I just, I don't know.
I feel like it would be nice to put a pin in the metaverse crypto conversation for 2026.
So that is one of my, that'll be probably my last bold take for 2026.
Although two actual pieces of advice.
One, if you have any assets that you treasure and you want to keep,
and you might've put them in a vault or a lending protocol at some point somewhere maybe this is in the year good time to just double check everything not just
think about your wallet hygiene and revoke your your approvals maybe make sure you don't have
anything in these protocols that might sunset and most of them if they are on chain if they're
they should continue on in perpetuity might be a lot harder without a front end especially if
you're not a dev so i
strongly encourage everyone to like i i thought for a while i thought i'd lost a had a board ape
kennel club in bendow um was staking there before a pre-ape chain and i just forgot about it went to
go back i thought it was just locked it gave me error after error after error long story short
ended up being something with metabask and that's that was like the final straw when i finally
pulled port into Ravi
because it wasn't a,
I mean, it was something related to Bindau,
but it was a MetaMask, Bindau error.
Anyways, check that stuff.
Make sure you don't have anything out there
that you might lose.
Also, a fun PSA is go check your bookmarks.
My NFT bookmarks are hilarious.
I'm going to save that for another show another day,
but I've got things like Loot Rarity and Botto
and just like some, there's like a whole subfolder
of just like 15 different Zed Run third-party platforms
and data and just, man, it was a fun time.
It was a little trip down memory lane
just looking at bookmarks.
But to your metaverse topic this is maybe my
i do have one more take after this old take but this is maybe my boldest and probably most polarizing
i do think i'm not saying it's like going to happen.
And if I say even a likely, I'm like maybe 51% that I think other side surprises a lot of people on this app.
I think other side surprises a lot of crypto Twitter and has a quote unquote breakout moment.
I don't even know what that means.
I don't know what that looks like,
especially as we were saying earlier,
it's not about us onboarding people into other side,
but rather going to where they're at.
And so my most logical dot that connects there is like,
it's a thriving popular game that has a lot of users,
decides to come into other side,
and they bring a lot of users with them.
Maybe that's it, Maybe it's not.
I just, they, they, they've done the thing.
Someone talked about that,
that initial trailer and how when that thing got launched, like every NFT collection that was in that trailer,
the floor price skyrocketed just because they were going to be part of other
side. And now that it's here and you've got, I don't know,
50 some collections that are running around in there,
the market doesn't seemingly care when it comes to floor price.
I don't know if that's a bad thing.
I think we created a lot of the metaverse bubble that was
with the sandbox land sales that were bought and would sell out instance.
And the other deed meant,
and like the valuation we placed on metaverse properties was overinflated to the point where it became a inhibitor for a lot of people to take serious or to get into because the math just didn't math in their head.
probably healthier where it's at today where you have you could get in there for you know next to
free you know pick up an ape chain avatar and you could start running around and playing in there
it's going to take builders it's going to take a lot more than the organic
groundswell of the community that is happening today but i do think if i had to if you maybe
pick what's something that exists already they could have a breakout in 2026, I think other side is on that list for sure.
I don't disagree.
I mean, I'm with you on how if that happens, I welcome it.
I think it would be great if there was like, okay, the other side is the metaverse.
I guess the things that I think about when I think about metaverses, and this is me pulling out my bookmarks and being like, wow, I used to try out all the differentverse. I guess the things that I think about when I think about metaverses, and this is me like pulling out my bookmarks and being like, wow, I used to like try out all the different ones.
One of them is like, what is the need for it, right? Because that really was a need in the
pandemic. Like that was such a huge thing to connect online, to have that presence. We were
all stuck at home. Like it was this big like thing clubhouse thrived spaces thrive like and we still use some of these channels but i think there is
definitely more like an irl push having said that though the gaming community is still online
still huge like you know roblox is not going anywhere like so so so so then there is this like okay well what
does the metaverse mean what does it do like is it again about the fact that it's crypto or is it
more about its like general purpose and overall north star which is what to connect people to go
see a show in there together because you're not all you know you can't travel around the world
like i think it needs to have that like synthesis because I can tell you
what, you know,
the Roblox North star is pretty easily having had a kid who's gone through
that and he's now on steam.
Like there's a huge agency of socializing and competition and connection
and, you know, escapism.
Like there's all of these things that and camaraderie right and
i think we have some of that of course you want to like go down memory lane and meet some of your
friends and like you know check out my other side deep space or whatever but it needs to have like a
strong i think driver for that like over and over return for people to come back to.
Like,
I don't know,
but,
but maybe,
maybe there is something there.
Maybe there's some activations that will happen in 2026 that will make it
very obvious.
Yeah.
Yeah,
of course everybody pile in.
This makes sense.
Yeah.
And I,
I don't,
I'm not going to claim to know what that thing is.
I don't think it's obvious today.
And I think sometimes it's when it's not obvious, sometimes it's where the opportunity lies. Sometimes when it's not obvious, but yet there's something there. Those are things that where might be worth paying attention to might be worth participating without putting a lot of capital at risk and you just never know. I do think there is going to be a token dropped at some point for participation
in there. I'm not saying that's going to be the next big runner.
It may not be worth anything.
I think there's also a relatively large announcement that I got on a good
source that's pretty dialed in and connected that has not been announced yet and i
think it could tie into other side and if that does come to fruition i think it could be another
one of these proverbial ramps or other side going to where people are um not a game in the
traditional sense of the word but what it's just like we talk about, don't just put something on chain, just to put it on chain.
Like, what does the technology unlock?
What can you program against that thing, that asset, that protocol, because it's on chain
that you weren't able to do with it not being on chain?
I think some similar things with other side, it's like, don't build another side just to
build another side, because you think you might get some xp or token allocation someday are there things you could unlock in
there that you just simply can't do if you're building your own world or just a game or just
a casino or just a dex or you know fill in the blank i'm off-chain, I'm very much into experiential participatory things,
industries that can't be replaced by a bot. I think bots can be helpful. Bots can
improve the experiences.
They can make it more enjoyable.
I think a metaverse can be one of those places where you big, open, vast, expansive worlds.
It's kind of, you know, I think about, you know, time I ran around the central land.
There was like seven people in there.
That's hard to like build any momentum if there's just nothing going on or very few people going on.
I think that can now be, it's easier to supplement the users. It's just, I think we're still a little early,
but how quickly this tech is evolving and changing, that's where I think we might have a moment. It
might be a breakout year for other side is as AI and AI agents take that next leap. What does that
unlock? I don't know.
I don't know the answers.
I just, if you maybe pick something that exists today,
I think it's possible that they could,
you know, other side could have a moment.
Last thought, and then we'll get everyone get out of here.
Any closing final thoughts for you?
My last bold prediction,
and since we kind of went around the topic today,
we might run this back tomorrow. You know what I will do? I'll post a poll today,
and we'll at least talk about the poll on tomorrow's show for 2026 predictions. Because
my last one, and this one is, whereas I might be like 51% that happens with other side,
I'm rooting for it. I just don't know what the catalyst is going to be.
I have a lot of conviction in this next take.
I am
vested now. I mentioned earlier
I participated in a couple of rounds
both at
the Fluffle stage, the ICO stage
really excited about
MegaE.
And my bold take is I believe it'll be the first breakout chain since Solana and Base,
as far as newer chains that show sustainability,
have a, adapt, have a,
and I don't really know their true north
other than it's going to be one of the most performative blockchains.
I don't think that's enough of their narrative.
But I think what my own impression of their narrative is the builders they've attracted and how they're going about it.
I think they're going to have things to do there, at least for the crypto natives, day one.
And I think that's important. That's impactful.
So my bold take is I think that's important. That's impactful. So my, yeah, my bold take is I think mega E has a breakout moment.
And to that same tune, I think towards the end of the year,
Monad might, Monad might have a roaring comeback.
I think people will forget about Monad. It was pretty,
I was pretty disappointed in the launch.
There just wasn't anything novel or unique there.
There was no reason to go to Monad for all intents and purposes just nothing that and then you know maybe got me excited
about putting capital there spending time on there it just it was a lackluster launch in terms of
dApps that said tech's solid they've got a lot of money they've got a huge war chest and i would
not be surprised that they have a comeback after most of CryptoTour,
especially as Forgotten About Them and Marked Them Off for Dead.
And they could pop back up in Q4 with some exciting news.
They land a killer dap or something.
Again, I don't know what it might be.
I just, they are really well funded and I don't see them.
Some of these chains will just go to zero and become dead chains.
It's possible that happens with Monad as well.
If I had to pick one of the two, I'm citing mega ETH over Monad.
But I think that maybe 2026, as much as we say, we don't need any more new infrastructure.
We don't need more new blockchains.
And I don't think that's not what I'm excited like.
If I talk about, oh, if I can pick my ICOs I want to participate in in 2026 it's probably not another layer one or layer two but for these that have been here I think they for a while might be the last non specific like there'll be chains for stable coins and I don't know the Texas stock exchange stuff that are just more proprietary chains used for enterprise.
I think more of these general purpose chains,
I think MegaEth could be the one that breaks out of crypto
because it is so performant,
and you see some real-world builders choose to come build on MegaEth
because it can look and act and feel like a web 2 interface thoughts on
that and then any any other bold predictions before we let everyone get out of here
i think that i haven't been following though the mega thing i think maybe i'll dip into that
before i can provide any comments so maybe next week i'll i'll give some thoughts on that once
i actually look into what it is um my predictions i think for 2026 i think we will see a reinvention of what the crypto wallet
is and what it looks like um interesting i think it's due time i think it's going to be
something i i don't even know what it is but i think it's gonna maybe even solve that like
maybe onboarding problem in a different way that we can't even think about right now.
Do you think it'll be from an existing wallet that evolves?
Or do you think there's room for a new wallet to come in and do this?
I actually don't even know.
Might be room for something new.
I don't know.
All I know is, like, it's just prime for someone to come up and usually, like, holy crap, what is this thing?
How does this work?
Like, I don't even, you know, I have some thoughts.
Maybe I'll share them later but like i just feel like that's right for for for for change um the
other thing is art blocks wrapped up kind of a lot of its stuff and i think there is also prime for
this new like this new art generative art something art culture to come out like this house if you
will because to me art boxes was like a house of digital art
right of generative art and people that were into it grew like respect for it and some of the top
collectors are involved in that and i think like there's room for for something that's new that
will come uh i think a part of that is maybe reinventing the way that people just purchase
nft art in general and the I think, will be even more present
between what old PFP art culture was on chain
to art on chain and what that means
and how public institutions respond to that.
I think that 2026 will be an interesting year for that.
I think there's also going to be some room for AI
to come in and do its thing.
But I'm still hazy on like the
whole ai crypto like you know there's there's ways i think to improve both but there's also
ways to i think really make them both crappy so i'm i'm just like i don't have that in my mind
like formulated in a way that that i even want to like speak about or get behind so i'm just
gonna say like that as a taster.
There's something there.
I don't know what it is.
And then, I don't know.
I feel like I want to be up to basic
and say that there'll be another run maybe at some point in 2026.
I'd like to see another one.
But I don't know if that's reality based on all of the things
I've seen in the last 12, 13 years at this point.
It's really hard to put a finger on that.
So, yeah, I don't know.
It's going to be an interesting year.
You know, last year on January 1st, speaking of predictions, I write poetry.
So I wrote this poem and I called it A Year of Nothing, kind of personally reflecting on how like I got into like a groove
and it almost felt like, okay,
the year of nothing meant like things were like stable, I guess, or whatever.
And then this last year was the most insane chaotic year of our lives,
like to the max, like peak max, like insanity on like a personal level.
And so now my family is expecting me to write a poem
called the year of everything just to to take away the curse from the last year so that's uh
you know i got a personal note that's the goal for for new year's on new year's day i'm going to
pen a year of everything poem and hopefully the the the events of 2026 are going to be chill.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's going to be a good year.
I'm optimistic.
I have to go buy something for January 1st.
I want to hear what people do.
Is anyone else like buy?
Do you care if it's like,
what is the last thing that you bought on like December 31st in a wallet that you care about?
Or is it more about like, what's the first thing that you put in it that likest in a wallet that you care about? Or is it more about like,
what's the first thing that you put in it that like starts the year off for you? I don't know.
I used to host these like New Year's Eve parties on, we were in crypto voxels, but also on spaces,
kind of like to a previous point about how I think any of these metaverses, at least for me,
have always tied back to the fact that we were on a twitter space hanging out and then like perusing inside wherever it was because otherwise you're
too isolated like even in like even if it has audio in it and stuff and we used to go into
home um where you could do audio in it without having a twitter space running at the same time
it was kind of like just not fun to not have random people stumble upon it and drag them into our little ecosystem.
So I used to buy like a dumb derivative of like a doodle and a dick butt that somebody made.
And I would put that in my wallet like religiously for like several years.
Last year I didn't.
And I think I might go back to that because it is so dumb and like so ridiculous.
And yet like the last thing you'd want in a wallet but yet like the meme of of doing that just made sense so i think i might go back into into doing that
just to have some kind of like some kind of wallet lore i don't know i like it i appreciate
how you have so much wallet lore as is and get people nftTs on anniversaries, birthdays, et cetera.
I think I've not thought about what's the last thing I want to buy in this wallet at the end of the year.
I've thought about what do I need to sell for tax loss,
harvesting purposes before the end of the year.
Oh, by the way, you've got data to do that.
If you're in the history, it's not just your NFTs,
but if you hold any crypto that you're down on,
you should go sell it today or tomorrow and immediately rebuy.
You'll have the same amount of the crypto token.
If it's down, you're booking a real legitimate U.S. dollar tax loss to offset your income this year.
It's just a smart, prudent thing to do.
Until they change tax laws, take full advantage of that.
Talk to your accountant.
I'm not a registered
financial advisor i'm not an accountant but uh that is like 101 in crypto is you can't do that
in there's wash trade rules that exist in trad buy and stocks and equities you can't do that there
here you can you can sell it rebuy it the same day the same minute and you're just your your
numbers on the screen look better as far as your taxes go. You're still sitting on the same bag of Bitcoin or Fartcoin or whatever
token it is. You guys can carry those losses too, right?
There's limits on it.
I think what I am going to do though is
New Year's Eve, I'm going to play with the RNG gods.
I'm going to do some things on chain
and maybe we end the year with a big win.
I'll probably do the same thing on January 1st
as I'm eating some good food on New Year's Day.
We'll maybe do a few more of these.
The one I know for sure,
if there's anything else I should do
just as far as random RNG
that I might get lucky,
you know, increasing my service area to luck
by being a degenerate gambler.
I'm going to do at least a BZ claw draw.
I just saw, I'll give them a quick shout out here,
our friends over at BZ,
just became the number one
in terms of volume on flow,
the number one DAP on flow.
They've done over $2.5 million, and I believe this is December,
and they've done it in about half the amount of transactions
compared to Fan Craze and NBA Top Shot.
They've done over a million dollars more in volume than NBA Top Shot. They've done over a million dollars more in volume than NBA Top Shot in 38,000 transactions
compared to 112 for Top Shot.
VZ's transactions are up 23%, Top Shot's down 37%.
VZ sales up 53%, Top Shot's down 47%.
Really impressive month to the VZ team.
Not just a month, but impressive year.
They also recently announced they're going multi-chain
so it'll be on flow and on base uh so that this volume might be short-lived as in terms of the
flow leader uh if some of that migrates to base but um i'm definitely going to be doing a claw
pool at least one tomorrow night you know what plug i'm going to plug the the badge there's a
holiday badge link up top go get your claim now someone there might be
a few other giveaways i know emily's got emlo's got some art we'll give that away tomorrow
i also have one uh bz claw pool uh from the uh their open c uh claw that will give away to
someone who's been in one of those holiday badges so there's going to be at least a piece of fun art
the badge was this holiday badge was also created the art was created by emlo be at least a piece of fun art. The badge was, this holiday badge was also created.
The art was created by MLO.
You'll get a piece of his art,
and someone's going to win a BC claw pool,
courtesy of the BC team.
Someone's wanting a badge, and you've got pretty good odds.
I think there's, I don't know, around 100 of those
have been claimed so far.
The claim is open until tomorrow at midnight,
but on tomorrow's show, tomorrow morning,
is when we'll do the raffle.
So make sure you get your badge
claimed before then.
It's a good idea.
I think I'll do a quad pool too
before the year end.
I feel like,
that sounds like a nice thing to do.
I mean, I ripped a bunch of avatar packs.
I got some really good Christmas gifts.
Yeah?
Have you seen the new avatar?
No, this is for like Avatar Aang,
the airbender. Yeah. So is for like um avatar ang the airbender yeah so they like that like that
avatar um which is a cartoon it's like one of my favorite shows uh but it came to magic the
gathering and so that was like both things i love in one so my family got me a bunch of like good
collector packs and and uh just regular packs to rip and like there's just nothing like gripping a
pack i love it and then um yeah that's some other fun gifts too but that was like a it just reminded me of how
much fun i have with that so i think i might do some easy pulling as well um oh i have another
prediction for 2026 uh we were cleaning up some of um divides old stuff in visiting family and uh
do you remember magic eye like oh i do yeah yeah i feel like that needs
to make a comeback we were you know we were talking about why this like was never successful
and the reason why is because most people can't see it and it kind of made me think about crypto
like why is crypto not mass adopted because most people just can't even appreciate it do we need
magic eye on chain or do we need to take crypto to the
mall kiosk and set up a new oh my god neither that's too funny um i think i've seen some some
magic eye projects on chain i feel like i have um and then i also before i forget that i'd mentioned
this too there's a serpentine gallery i think out of the UK, but they have some really cool publications. It's these little tiny books. It's a series of them.
So the first volume was Art and Advanced Technologies, and then it was Art and the Metaverse,
then it's Art and Decentralized Tech, and then it's Art and Public AI.
And the most recent one is Art and I think NFTs. I can't remember. Art and something important.
Where did you get these?
These are from Serpentine Gallery.
So you can just purchase them there for people listening.
Yeah, it's an art gallery.
I just, for anybody, I know some listeners are also nerdy like me
and read these kind of random weird art meets technology things.
So I don't want to deprive the audience of a new find.
So I thought I'd share that.
And then, yeah, someone noticed the two basses back here.
Hey, I dabble in bass, but our 14 year old son is the bassist.
So he got this Fender for Christmas.
And this is his five string Jackson bass because he loves Schism and Pot,
like all the tool riffs, the tool basses he likes a lot.
Obviously, the Nirvana stuff, Muse, like a bunch.
Yeah, he just loves like complicated bass riffs.
So we get the privilege of listening to that.
And then he asks for a four-string.
So this is his second bass.
And he plays down here.
So yeah, that's the bass shout-out um and he plays down here so yeah that's the
that's the base shout out i'm trying to think if i have anything else um that is interesting before
i forget um no i think this is it i wanted to bring up those books because i don't think i'm
going to tweet about them so i thought i would just share the names for anybody who's who's
nerdy i mean serpentine gallery just has like a cool collection of like nerdy tech art books.
And they are very much in line with what's happening in metaverse culture and AI culture in crypto culture.
So a good resource.
Very cool.
Yeah, I was not familiar.
I would check it out.
And yeah, we need you getting some love for the New Year's Eve and crypto voxels.
And we need to bring back just spaces where we just hang
out and play some music and uh have fun with friends dare i say a good use case for other
side maybe someday we can get uh uh son of outer in the uh in the other side playing that bass um
oh my god that'd be so much fun i mean i could probably convince him to do that. He's definitely done some pretty fun things when prompted.
So, yeah.
Maybe the high watermark here for me will be to get him to come as a speaker on this space.
I'll work on that.
Like, if divide is hard, the kid is even harder, but that'd be cool.
That's the goal for 26.
Truly enjoyed the show.
We covered a lot of things I didn't have on my card today.
I didn't think, but all I feel done tied together.
Was not expecting the LinkedIn reference,
but now my brain's spinning in terms of Web3 jobs.
I'm so here for this arc for you, like, or whoever else.
I feel like I want to keep tabs.
Like if you guys go down this path, like Machiavelli,
whoever ends up getting this accreditation,
I want to know I'm here for it.
I, I'm going to think about it.
I, I, I don't need it for the,
like what I think many in here would,
would take it full advantage of if they had that ability. But I think, you know, Matthew's route of, Hey,
there's a lot of people in the traditional finance world that are now jumping in and starting
to learn about tokenization and all things on chain. And yeah, we can wait till they get here,
or we can go to them. And while I may not need it for the accredited investor checkbox, it would be
probably as impactful in terms of like a credential or resume standpoint as my
traditional resume is because my while might be an impressive career on a resume it's not in finance
yeah you know i just there's like i had never thought about like almost zero desire to get a, was it 63 or 65?
What's the one that doesn't require a sponsor? Do you remember 63?
One of those two, but I don't remember.
One of those two was not a nowhere in my realm of things I would explore.
And now it's like, he put a really good case and we talk about the show and we're expanding
to other other channels like yeah we could go we're going to continue to grow youtube and we
could go to twitch and kick and where a lot of the other quote-unquote streamers are or we could go
to where a lot of the trad fight people are not the kid not the kids looking to trade meme coins
but those who might be interested in RWAs.
Wait, are we going to LinkedIn?
Can we even have a show like this on LinkedIn?
I don't know if we can do the show,
but we can certainly do clips.
And that's our biggest missed opportunity is like,
I mean, even- Because there's LinkedIn Live.
I remember there's LinkedIn Live.
Or did they take that away?
I'm so curious.
I don't know.
I truly don't know if you could do a, if you could stream a live show there,
but Matthew's take today on just an incredible investor and you can qualify
for that. Like that's, that's news.
Like that's, there's a lot of people on LinkedIn.
Like I'm not kidding.
Like the all in podcast guys who are pretty dialed
into this sort of stuff, they, oh, we need a test so people can qualify to become an
accredited investor without having to earn 200K a couple of years in a row or without
having to have a million dollars. There is. It exists. And apparently, they either didn't
know about it or forgotten or because-
Or they're holding out. I'm just kidding.
I mean, it's really not that,
like 150 bucks for a test.
Yeah, I agree.
Unless you come with a finance background,
you probably should also pay Kaplan and actually gain the education.
But for as little as 150 bucks to get a test,
even if you don't ever participate in an ICO,
like the doors that that might open
as the traditional finance world looks to come on chain and looks for experts might be a lot easier getting your foot in the door in one of those companies than a crypto native that is only looking for someone that's, you know, worked at Coinbase or OpenSea.
or open sea um yeah fly ride we might i'm now i'm curious because fly riding the chat there is
um you know legend in the space one of my favorite uh he's actually responsible for
this roadcaster setup and helping me uh know after i unplug the cords which holes i'm supposed
to plug them back into um doing some cool stuff with magic eden and and um yeah i'm curious now i'm gonna go check out
fly rides linkedin himself and see if he's been streaming over there in junior curious your
thoughts i'm probably gonna text him again like i i love linkedin by the way i have like a bunch
of followers on there it's like a whole thing i just don't mix the two but i also have like i can
i can just be outer loom on linkedin that's fine i have that going on I can do that so like I'm I'm bullish on it because I like LinkedIn has been amazing for me for like booking
gigs and clients and all the things like it's like it's an amazing place to be like I used to
in fact I think it's probably where it's probably the only platform where I've actually done content
creation like like full-on because I just like sharing things on there that are nerdy um whereas like
you know for my ex account or whatever i'd rather just talk i want to just like talk to people
because i find that like the most rewarding and satisfying rather than like penning a bunch of
articles or posting stuff you know i'll post some stuff when i feel like it but i don't feel like i
have to feed the x algorithm because to me it's more about like having connections that are real on linkedin though
man there's like there's just such a cool like discourse going on with like pros and new people
that are coming in that are just like coming online or just graduating i don't know it's
exciting so i'm i'm here for the coffee with captain um linkedin arc although i feel like
maybe you could it's almost like an interesting branding
opportunity and what that would look like on LinkedIn anyways I feel like I feel like you
and I are probably going to talk about this at some point because I'm really curious about like
what that would even look like and I find that there's something there that's really interesting
I I need to explore because my I got I just looked I've got 3,000 followers on LinkedIn, but in maybe like a dozen crossovers.
I have posted a couple of things about, but not even in the weeds.
I don't even think I've ever shared that I host a show over there.
It's really segmented networks.
It's like my LinkedIn is its own world.
My Facebook's its own world. My Facebook's its own world.
My Instagram is its own world with a little bit of crossover to Facebook. My ex is,
it's an entirely own world for me, but there are some of my friends that have found me here. And
it's like, I'll see them in public. Like, oh, I've been following you on crypto. I'm like,
on Twitter. I'm like, oh my God, sorry um yeah yeah but linkedin is it's like
a walled garden like i i haven't i haven't even posted over there for a year probably so i don't
know there might be something there to let's play around some because the reality is even though i
only have 3 000 followers relative compared to 40k here i'm gonna say right i could probably post a
short form video a clip it's probably gonna to get more engaging on LinkedIn than it will here.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Especially because you haven't posted in a while.
Anytime you take a break, like unlike X, LinkedIn is like, oh, hello there.
We see that you're back.
Let's amplify you and give you a dopamine hit so that you come back.
Yeah, they have that figured out.
Unbelievable that this is the, um,
this is how we wrap up our predictions for 2026 is crypto twitter the new home of crypto becomes
linkedin in 2026 that's our prediction is all the up-and-coming content creators the breakout
content creators of 2026 are going to come from linkedin not crypto twitter you heard it here
first i'm not mad about this that's really funny. I say it laughing, but I'm also like,
oh yeah, I know. Like it's in the range of outcomes. Like it could very well happen.
Yeah. I'm, I'm here for it. I think it's hilarious. I love this. And maybe like,
imagine then the stream is like the other side into your LinkedIn account.
I'm, I'm also, I'm also probably certain that we're getting like subtweeted right now.
These boomers are talking on space about LinkedIn in 2026. Someone's definitely dunking on us right
now for our LinkedIn takes. I can't wait. I think there's some merit. I'm definitely going to
explore. I don't know if I'm not going to commit to posting all the time, but I think-
Well, the other one would be like, otherwise, I mean, look, like we should wrap up.
But like I'm on TikTok chronically because I love the UI UX research there.
They have perfected the reveal.
You have like women that are like 20 revealing jewelry to boomer women that keep buying it because it's a dopamine hit.
Like everyone loves a rare.
Literally, this jewelry like pyramid scheme is all about revealing something that's rare
and the live reveal.
How someone is not doing some kind of on-chain reveals
is beyond me there because it's primed for that.
But also, there's a whole battle system.
You can do so much live on TikTok,
but I think it takes effort and some work.
But I do know that there's a crypto
audience there and they are a younger demographic so like it's it's doable and even the same with
Instagram like you get Instagram live with a bunch of people we could literally do this on Instagram
right like so I know we like zoomed into LinkedIn but I think one of the main reasons why we're
like at least for me is the fact that like we would bring crypto to LinkedIn in some ways of least, right?
Versus I think it's already on, it's already on TikTok.
It's just a different demographic.
And if you specifically want to reach those demographics, then it's absolutely doable.
Like, I think what's interesting is to reach the demographic of people that are not interested in crypto at all.
And then, like, somehow see if they can get the, like, excitement about it if it's not from some media outlet dunking on a scam right having a different lens on it like
in a professional setting agreed so i think i think that that's the interest for me is that like
there's social social social linkedin and i almost challenged like the research gate would be an
interesting one and i don't know what gets more boomer and academic than that.
But imagine if like someone goes off on like this whole like, you know, white paper tech side of things on ResearchGate. Because guess what?
Might come a shock to people.
But, you know, there's actual research published on blockchains and how they work and cryptography.
Wow.
Like nobody reads these things.
Nobody cares. they work and cryptography wow like nobody reads these things nobody cares but there's a whole
discourse that the devs are having about how to build things that we love to use right and that
is academic papers that is actually math it's actually like zero knowledge proofs and all of
these things that like happen to be at the research level coming from like mathematicians
and cryptographers across the world and that's on research gate. So like, I don't know, I feel like this is like kind of a tangent at this
point, but there's like so much in how you end up in crypto too. Right.
And if we're talking about like the tech side,
that's different than the finance side and the art side. Like, yeah.
It's kind of a no brainer. I'm convinced.
So I got to figure out exactly what and how, but it's like,
if I go to TikTok, any
Twitch kick, I I'm starting from zero, be building a brand new audience.
LinkedIn.
I have a large audience.
A lot of people who I'm like some peers.
Yes.
But there's also a lot that I'm a tier ahead on like this, the social structure, like the
social ladder in the sense that like they used to work for me or they were a vendor
of mine.
Like there's, I, I guess I, dare I say, wield some influence on LinkedIn that I've never
used. I've never tapped into. I've never talked crypto over there for that. It's just, it's like,
I have a headstart and it also fits my just natural skillsets, my age, my, I'm going to
have a much easier job connecting with people of LinkedIn than I am the people of TikTok,
most likely. Now, could I go more viral on TikTok? Probably, but I'm just, it'd be for like making
people dunking on me for trying to do the dungie, not because they thought it was a cool dance.
Yeah. I just, it's definitely something there had not, I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that,
maybe we're the only ones that are getting excited about LinkedIn today. Chris did post
one of his live streams in the chat. I'm going gonna pin that up top if anyone wants to go get a glimpse uh fly rides uh
recent live stream is uh is pinned up top um and by the way their founder bought and holds a pretty
fair crypto pump like i don't know um make in this whole conversation going to them if i'm if we're thinking where is trad fi
targeted i'm guessing it's a lot more on linkedin than it like are they all on tiktok yeah maybe but
like can you get to them there like are you gonna hit their algo whereas linkedin
they're probably gonna to see it.
I think the discourse is also different. Like that's the interesting part. Like if you and I were going to have a show on LinkedIn, I don't even know it would be this exact same show because
I feel like we, there's a lot of assumptions that are made in having an understanding of the things
we're referencing. I think we would be forced to provide like explanations about some of the things that
we're talking about which is an interesting exercise in itself right like you can't just
be like yay we're excited about the other side what the f is the other side right like like it
yeah there's a lot of assumptions made in a show like this where we have a common understanding
that would just be lacking in that space i can can't wait to hear what Payne thinks about our LinkedIn journey.
This was definitely not his roadmap for,
we got like seven things we're supposed to do before the end of the year.
And we're going to scrap them all and go straight to going live on LinkedIn
tomorrow, my kid.
But we have kept outer, once again, longer than planned.
Really appreciate all your time this morning,
as well as all of our guest speakers.
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With that out, are there any closing comments? Any final words?
Anything? And we'll get everyone out of here.
No, Happy New Year
to everyone. I guess that's
more tomorrow, but yeah, thanks for having me. Looking forward to coming back next week,
whether it's LinkedIn or here or all of the things here for it. This is great.
Awesome. Happy new year to you and Divide and the kiddo as well. If you enjoy your time tomorrow,
hopefully there's some bass guitar involved and some fun board games. That's actually maybe another topic for another day.
I have a feeling you have quite the list of fun, engaging, off-chain board games.
I have quite the collection. I'm happy to do a board games.
I do think that is also an opportunity for things on-chain.
I mentioned in passing ironically coincidentally
mentioned loot earlier and i was like oh my god this just makes sense of course dungeons and
dragon characters on chain like it just makes sense and again got hyper hyper financialized
those things were going for 70 100 grand and it just it didn't make sense the bubble i think
revisiting some of these things that might have been thrown at the wall during a mania
and didn't stick for whatever reason
because attention is fleeting.
Like, I don't know.
There's a lot of cool board games out there.
A lot of fun games
that you could probably do a lot more with
if we leverage this tech.
I don't know what they are right now,
but I think that could be a fun conversation someday as well.
Agreed.
Awesome.
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