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🚨CRYPTO TALK RADIO: MARKET ARE GREEN. MARKETS ARE BACK?
Recorded: April 14, 2025 Duration: 2:05:12Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the recent surge in Bitcoin and Ethereum prices, signaling a potential market recovery. The conversation highlighted the importance of community engagement, the role of meme coins in driving retail interest, and the need for strategic investment approaches as the market evolves.
Full Transcription
I The Bigger Man.
What the hell is it? What the helly? My new watch on present, diamonds on spaghetti. Pop outside with that sauce spaghetti.
Back, Sanatelli.
What the helly?
I get back naked.
Back, give me Becky.
What the helly?
Back, call me daddy.
I have daddy.
What the helly?
New been out of Jersey.
I'm not by a Birkin.
What the helly?
Girl, you're buffing nerdy.
He a buff for certain.
What the helly?
Beyond million rich.
Big four nine explosion.
What the helly?
Heard I got this lurking.
What the helly?
Diamonds on spaghetti. Back, give that Becky. What the hell? What the hell? What the hellies? What the hell? What the hell? What the hellies? What the hellies? What the hellyante? What the hellyone? What the hellyberry? What the hellyburton? What the hellybronjames? What the hellysirons? I hope you had a great weekend
I had a great weekend I hope you had a great weekend. I had a great weekend.
I hope you did too.
I'm the hit maker y'all depend on
Backstage in my city it was friendzone
You won't ever take no chain off of us
How the fuck you be stepping with a size seven man zone
This the part with the bike nigga what's up
I know my picture on the wall when y'all cook up
Extortion baby, whole career you been shook up
This top toe you dropping give me 50 likes of push-ups
Cool, your last one brick, you really not on shit
They make excuses for you cause they hate to see me lit.
Pull your contract because we got to see the split.
The way you doing splits, bitch, your pants might rip.
You better do that motherfucking show inside the bitty.
Maroon 5 need a verse.
You better make it witty.
Then we need a verse for the Swifties.
Top, save, drop.
You better drop and give them 50.
Pips, squeak, pipe down.
You ain't in no big three.
Shizzo got you wiped down.
Travis got you wiped down.
Savage got you wiped down.
Like your label, boy, you in a scope right now.
And you gon' feel the aftermath of what I write down.
I'm at the top of the mountain, so you tight now.
Just to have this talk with your ass, I had to hike down.
Big difference between Mike Dent and Mike now.
What the fuck is this, a 20v1 nigga?
What's a prince to a king, he a son nigga?
Get more love in a city that you find nigga?
Metro shut your whole ass up and make some drums nigga
Yeah, I'm the 6 God, I'm the front runner
Y'all nigga manage yo with Charles Lil' Blunt runner
Playing the 6 and you boys ain't even come from it
And when you boys got rich you had to run from it
Cash blowing, able bread, out here tricking.
Shit we do for bitches, he doing for niggas.
Jet switch, change, wiki, wiki, wiki.
Spinning like you trying to fuck, boy, you tripping, boy, you tripping.
Drizzy Chippendale, probably got your bitch in there.
I just got them done, boy, don't make me at the chippin' there.
Rolling live stage, y'all would turn, that was sick as hell.
Shit'll probably change if it be him, start to kiss and tear. and tear hussing kisses man don't tell me about no switches i'll be rocking
every fucking chain i own that's busy ayy i'll be with some bodyguards like whitney top say drop
your little midget ass better fucking ayy baby drop and give me 50 drop and give me 50
niggas really got me out here talking like i'm 50. Niggas really got me out here rapping what I'm living.
I might take it late, this girl a cuffing like I'm Ricky.
Can't believe he jumping in, this nigga turning 50.
Every song they made it on a chart he got from Drizzy.
Spend that little check, you gotta stay up out my business.
Niggas, shout out to the people that be busting out the gritty.
We know why you mad, nigga, I ain't even tripping.
All that little hard broken Twitter shit for bitches.
This for all the top, dawg.
Drop and give me 50.
Drop, drop.
And that fucking song, y'all got to not start the beef with us.
This shit been brewing in a pot, now I'm heating up.
I don't care what Cole think, that dot shit was weak as fuck.
Champagne trippin', he is not fucking easing up.
Nigga calling top to see if top want a piece of the top.
Want a piece of the top?
Want a piece of the top? Nah, pussy, now you on your own when you speaking up you don't roll deep to this you're not
fucking deep enough begging cops or not well you're not fucking beating us numbers wise
i'm out of here you're not fucking creeping up money wise i'm out of here you're not
fucking sneaking up cornball your show money merch money feed us i'ma let you niggas work
it out because i've seen enough this ain't even everything i know don't wait to demon up this ain't even everything i know don't wait to demon up
all right let's get the show started man i took the weekend off as always i told everybody
ain't no reason for me to be here when i already have all my asses in check
have all my asses in check i ain't chasing money money comes to me that's how we do it
i ain't chasing money money comes to me
put yourself in a position to where you can go out and have some fun
and today it's sunny it's about to be a beautiful day
It's about to be a beautiful day.
And I ain't really look at the markets yet.
Let's look at them.
Ooh, what's that?
Bitcoin at $85,000.
Ethereum breaking towards $1,700.
I thought it was dead. I thought we died. I thought we're not coming back. What happened? You guys are deleting your accounts.
Guys, we're deleting your accounts.
Switching up your styles like Machine Gun Kelly.
Okay?
A lot of you guys did a Machine Gun Kelly and started singing pop songs.
Started reporting on the WWF and shit.
WWE, whatever.
All you had to do is just buy real shit
and just sit back and wait.
I don't know.
I'm feeling...
I'm feeling...
I'm feeling, I'm feeling like this deal will soon be done with China and the markets will explode.
Regardless of what the liberal media will tell you, regardless of how the liberal media is out here talking about recession, depression. They're in depression and they need some medication.
We go higher.
All right, let's start the show.
Good Monday, good Mondayay april 14 2025
holy shit it was just new year's man we're here right now all right we're here some people are
looking at that wallace the wallace are recovering they're smiling and we didn't even really start to push yet you still have time you really do still have time before
it sends but like look what kind of opportunities you had look what common opportunities you had
it was wild i'm looking at this right now I'm looking at memes because a lot of you motherfuckers are into me.
Like Pepe right now, you could have easily made a nice little X for yourself
because Pepe went down into the fucking $2 billion range.
Now it's at $3.2 billion.
Could you imagine?
Could you imagine if you had a little faith in this fucking crypto ecosystem,
but you don't because you follow a bunch of fucking
you follow a bunch of motherfucking cartoon characters just yapping all day broke as hell
look at this we got a fifth you know it's coming back now we were out we were down to number we
were down to just four memes in the billion-dollar range. Now it's five.
Bonk has now entered the billion-dollar range again,
and Fartcoin is coming to make it six.
Everything is starting to slowly move towards the up.
It's okay.
We feel for you, man.
You sit on the sidelines.
You watch this. but you know what you
can't complain i don't want to hear no complaining man i really don't want to hear anybody complaining
or blaming anybody for why they're down so bad and why they're not making money and why they didn't
make no gains it was because of you and you only because you had absolutely no fucking belief
in this fucking ecosystem you still don't you still don't and you only because you had absolutely no fucking belief in this fucking
ecosystem you still don't you still don't and you're into instagram for fucking occasion there
you go instant motherfucking gratification that's what you're into and that's where and that's why
you are where you are okay you don't take profits you hold for the team okay you don't even know
what the fuck you're doing by holding you have
no plans just go ahead and scale out look how energized i am i take the weekends off that's
why i come back with fury okay i ain't sitting here chasing money money comes to me i don't
chase money money comes to me that that is it. Bottom line. I don't have to chase. I put myself in a great fucking position.
I don't need to chase this shit.
And if I happen to be on here from Monday through Friday and I catch one and it goes 100x, God bless America.
America.
God bless America.
But you won't see me here Saturdays and Sundays.
I respect those who put in the grind, though.
I won't take it away.
I won't take it away. I won't
take it away from you guys, but I, I want to get my suntan on. Okay. I want to get that vitamin D,
no ditty, relax. I know what you started thinking when I said that, but now you come back here and
there's energy. You guys asked me to lift the pause market i lifted the pause market look what happened we unpaused and fuck china and anybody who has a fucking china flag in their bios blocking you
okay if you are an american citizen and you got a china flag in your bio i'm blocking you
i'm blocking you you're not an american handing your passports and go live in china and then try to go
and post something something out in that land i dare you i triple dare you have fun
have a great time doing that welcome to crypto talk radio markets are green
Welcome to crypto talk radio markets are green. How long they will stay green? I don't know.
But I think the market has already established that Trump is nuts. Okay, and he's unpredictable.
So you know what? It is what it is. They're so used to these tariffs now that I think they're
no longer scared to no longer tippy towing
with putting markets in or injecting money into the markets soon you will have warren buffett
who sits on 300 billion dollars in cash coming in and you have more people michael saylor's buying
while you're bitching and crying michael saylor keeps on buying you're talking about he's gonna
get liquidated he said liquidate these nuts.
Michael Sealer is on a whole different level.
I like that.
It's all or nothing.
It is all or nothing with this man.
You're sitting on the sidelines with your $3.
And you try to calculate. nothing with this man. You're sitting on the sidelines with your $3 and you're trying to
calculate. You're out here calculating. This ain't a game of, okay, maybe I could. No.
This is a game of, I'm going to research. I'm going to put myself in the best position i'm a bam i'm gonna hit that i ain't waiting
after doing all this research after going into such you know there's so many rooms
let me let me take this back there's 40 000 spaces on here every single day there's maybe like seven
to eight that are actually good you have an opportunity to visit those seven to eight rooms and sit back and listen to
everybody go ahead and give their take on this motherfucking market, on the ecosystem
here that we have built.
You could even talk about Tri-Fi because that, ladies and gentlemen, that shit also went
down and you had life-changing opportunities to get into the stock market and pick shit up
yeah it's not your 100x that you get in crypto but it is a five to good 10x that you can go ahead
and pick up tesla all the way down you could have fucking picked that up seconds could have picked
up from the banking system you didn't give a fuck you didn't give a you were too busy talking about a man's measurements
that's right you were too busy talking about a man's measurements so you deserve you deserve
what you get because it's the same thing as i always say it's kind of like you are what you eat
okay if you eat mcdonald's you'll look like a mcdonald okay you'll look exactly
you will look yo one big mac is like a thousand calories what do you think's gonna happen to you
what do you think no exercising motherfuckers can't even dedicate 30 30 minutes you can't
even dedicate to a workout clap your hands in your motherfucking seat
anyway i'm back hi um Let's bring some people up.
Was that too much?
I don't know.
We'll ask the audience.
We'll ask the audience if that was too much.
If the electricity was too much for you.
Okay?
If it was too much for you,
then get the fuck out the room.
Go to some other person's room and go ahead and just listen to the crock of shit
that is being talked about
day in and day out
acting like this market
wasn't ever going to set back
I was sitting there
through this whole
all this red
and people were like
David are you down bad
no you stupid motherfucker
I'm not down bad
I didn't even flinch
i was like kobe i was like kobe when he was he's trying to inbound the ball
and what's his name he tried to he tried to pretend that he was throwing the ball in his face
He tried to fucking, you know, pretend that he was throwing the ball in his face.
And Kobe didn't even flinch.
That was me.
I didn't even fucking flinch.
Market could have went to zero.
I would have had my nuts out on the table.
I take the weekends off.
I take the weekends off.
And I think people who are in really good positions, they take the weekends off also.
Again, now, if you guys want to play,
you guys want to play around on the weekends,
you want to catch one,
listen, God bless you, man.
I'm not even saying a word to you guys.
I can appreciate people locking in
and trying to find a gym out there.
No doubt about it.
But like, yo, if you have money,
look, look right now. Look, before it goes, I money look look right now look before it goes i'm
telling you right now before it fucking sends mega sends you better start looking because shit
is still if i i mean it's still there's still an opportunity you could have had an opportunity to
get it hypothetically i'm just gonna throw out there mog right was at 100k oh excuse me 100k
i wish 100 million it's at 200 million.
You could have easily gone in.
No, you're looking for some shit that is being live streamed on Pump.Fun.
GG is good game.
Good game.
That's why you're losing.
That's why you will continue to lose.
That's why you will continue to lose that's why you're losing because every single time a space
like this opens up or anybody who actually can get a word or two out in terms of a sentence anybody
who knows shit about fucking this goddamn space who's been around for at least five years who's
told you hey this is what i've done before i I learned from my mistakes. And now look, I am telling you, these are the ones and everybody agrees.
There's a consensus.
You know, you are the fucking problem.
Not the people out here talking about it.
You are the problem because you absolutely suck.
Why is he go out on the weekends?
Because I can.
You know why I go ahead and run 20 miles?
You know why I ran 20 miles yesterday?
Because I can.
Because I don't need to go ahead and worry and stress about a market.
You know why?
Because I put myself in a good position.
What did you do? Motherfuckers win. Motherfuckers lose on 20 tickers on zombie tickers, 20 in a row,
win on one and think they evened out. Don't calculate that they fucking lost probably like
$60,000 in the process.
You're out here talking about your winning.
Winning what?
What'd you win?
Your receding hairline?
You won that.
You got a receding hairline.
You got a belly now.
And then you want to talk shit about people that, hey, I love this. You want to talk shit about people that hey i love this you want to talk shit about people that actually exercise okay take the weekends off by the way this is not directed at anybody i'm
just talking about i'm talking about in general like all this stuff generalizing right because
if i want to i'll say names i don't give a fuck there's no names to say though but i'm just saying
i you could take the weekends off if you are
in the right position. That's it. Bottom
line, you got yourself into Bitcoin,
you got yourself into Ethereum, Solana,
you got yourself into some dank-ass fucking
memes, you want to call the Cicasaverse,
call the Cicasaverse, call
the Pepeverse, call whatever the fuck you
want to call it, but it's some sort of verse
that is going up right now, and
now, now, now, now, now, now, now you're down bad, bad, bad. Cause you're chasing to chase. Nobody, nobody
that's winning is chasing. I can promise you that. Not a single person I know who is wealthy is chasing.
They don't chase.
They buy in the red.
They buy in the red.
When you guys were crying, saying it was over, we went into a bear market, they were buying everything up.
Period.
Look no further than Michael Saylor.
That's it.
You guys, no, no, no, nobody was buying.
Look at Michael Saylor. That's all I got to say. Look at Michael Saylor. That's it. You guys. No, no, no. Nobody was. Look at Michael Saylor.
That's all I got to say.
Look at Michael.
So that's it.
Look no further than Michael Saylor.
And watch when ETH pops off.
Oh, my God.
It's going to be devastating.
You guys are going to need fucking therapy.
I'm going to tell you right now, when ETH pops off, there's going to be a lot of people seeing a lot of therapists.
A lot of people seeing a lot of therapists
a lot of people will be sitting laying back on the couch laying back on the couch talking to the therapist nightmares straight up nightmare they're gonna put you on medication they will be putting
you on medication you're gonna be tossing yourself into walls they're gonna have to pat him put you in the straight jacket
because once eth goes up watch the memes explode i'm talking about the real memes i'm not talking about some shitters i'm talking about some real memes going completely insane and your best friend
is gonna pull up pull up in that ferrari i'll pull up in that fer. Go pull up in that Ferrari.
Say, what's up?
What's good?
What you doing this weekend?
You go be tight as fuck.
You go be so good.
I'm here for this.
I'm here.
Anyway, good morning, gentlemen.
It's Monday.
It's beautiful.
It's sunny. Vitamin D. Vitamin gentlemen. It's Monday. It's beautiful. It's sunny vitamin D vitamin D
No, diddy vitamin D is out there for those who needed who are lacking. Look at your iWatches
I guarantee you your Apple watches state that you have been outside for only 34 seconds
And that was to take out the garbage. Okay, you are not getting enough sunlight
It is proven just look at the i'm telling you look at your Apple watch and that was to take out the garbage, okay? You are not getting enough sunlight.
It is proven.
Just look at the, I'm telling you, look at your Apple Watch.
You are not getting enough sunlight.
You are not getting enough sun.
You're not getting enough air.
That's why you all look green in your goddamn pictures.
And that's not a filtered.
That is your actual face.
You look green, okay? You're not getting no oxygen.
Anyway, I'm sorry. i'm not sorry uh good morning
good morning david uh it's great to be up here thank you for hosting another great space i hope
everybody retweets and values the superb content that is freely disseminated on these airwaves
every single day it's a great day to have a great day. You sound happy.
You sound like your ETH bag is pumping.
It's just that time, man.
And I feel so good.
I feel so clean because we gave Alpha,
but we were here for these people
during the toughest moment of their lean point career so far,
because they weren't here three years ago during the bear.
So this is as close to the bear as they've gotten and we were here to hold their hands we gave
y'all alpha landy gave you charts david broke down fundamentals geopolitics i was here to you
know just make you guys giggle and uh man it feels good to be back and uh yeah it's it's it's an
exciting time i i'm still cautious right like because you have to be right but like it's it's an exciting time. I'm still cautious, right? Like, because you have to be right.
But like, it's more so like, I'm not cautious in a sense like, oh my God, I'm scared.
Like I said, I didn't even flinch.
For me, like, yo, like, the first thing that I thought of, and maybe I wouldn't have thought this way like eight, nine, ten years ago, right?
But like, first thing that I thought of with this pullback was bro, like, this is like,
this is the time that like,
this is the time that I go and I go into the market with no fear.
That's it. It's just like one of those,
either you believe in this ecosystem or you don't either you believe in the
markets or you don't either you believe in the markets or you don't and yeah especially trump
either you believe in this man's ego that he's going to do everything possible to send markets
no but that's a big thing you got to believe like with the sitting president with trump i'm not
saying that we wouldn't have gone up but this is a man where everything's pro crypto now the size of his ego i am betting on i thought that
my crypto investments at the end of the day at the top they would be at a certain point
i think they're going to double that and even triple that after trump is done with all this
shit that he's doing so that's why hey listen i lift i was
confident enough to lift the pause market during the weekend you guys asked for it as i was running
and exercising i was like all right let me lift this pause market for you guys okay i lifted the
pause market spoke to trump lifted the pause here you go but we still got china to work on
i still can't believe you called that.
That was crazy.
All right, one last thing.
If you're in the audience and this doesn't make sense,
like how did these guys know?
How did they stay so confident?
What was it about their analysis that left them so confident
when I was shaking in my boots?
How did they prevent themselves from losing money
or even make money while I was burning through and losing money
over the last four or five months. If you don't know the answer to those questions, like how did
we know, what did we see? You should be asking this question. What in the world did Henox see?
What did David see? What did Andrew and Landy see? What has Jules been seeing the last few weeks
that had them making these crazy outlandish statements about where the market is headed
and now it's beginning to happen? And again again i know i know landy and smart guys are
going to say we're not there yet we need confirmation i get it but how did we see this
coming with such clarity because the answer to that question will save your life when it comes
to when this thing tops out because the ability to see what was coming, that skill set that's developed right now during this downturn is the difference between you making 13 grand and 13 million.
Because just so you know, what we just went through, that's going to happen again.
The downturn, 90% down in memes, all that.
That's about it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen sooner than you think and if you don't know how to see what's coming
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen sooner than you think.
And you know you're not connected to people that can at least analyze in real time
You are going to hurt. So anyway, those are questions you should be asking yourself right now
And if you don't have the answer to that question
Forget the memes stop pump fund
You need you will need to treat this like an emergency crisis in your life
Which is what I had to do the last five months. I was like, wait a second, something got elected.
What's going on?
And for the last five months,
I have been operating like my kid is in the hospital.
911 emergency.
I need to figure out what is going on and what is next.
Because if I don't,
it will cost me tens of millions of dollars,
nine figures this cycle.
And I won't get this moment again for four years from now you better have that same energy around real-time analysis no one's gonna be able
to tell you with perfect pinpoint accuracy what's coming but at the very least get a handle around
real-time analysis all right i'm bad let's go let's go this is what I fucking like to see let's go to
I like I do this on purpose because nobody can say his name a DZ a
What's going on bro, I haven't heard that's my dog. That's my dog ad what up, bro?
No, you know that no every time he comes up nobody knows how to pronounce the name so like I do this on purpose now
I'm going with a D ADZA now because of the confusion.
Loki.
But, like, fuck boys, I see, ladies and gents, like, the information has been in front of us.
The problem is everyone just wants one person to have the right answer, right?
But, like, if you, like, take the aggregate of these spaces and other fucking spaces that are happening daily, like, you know,
and, you know, the shout-out to Landy is the person
that gives you the fucking sensibility to look at the macro and just, like,
I mean, Hanoch's right, right?
Like, if you're not at least positioned in a way you think you're going to make some money,
what the fuck are you doing?
And, like, yeah, like, eat ramen and fucking pay attention
and put a dollar into a fucking meme coin that will do 100x, right?
Like, I don't know what's going to fucking happen tomorrow or in three months but i do know how like the cycle of liquidity works
in the whole fucking market over a 10-year time frame like i know that for sure and i know that
like there's gonna be a time to be positioned and like it's probably starting i don't know
it's really interesting i've been touching grass dude
like my girl came to visit which has been hanging out it's been fucking nice and the other thing
i'd say and what like uh sort of david's intro reminded me of is like i was able to touch grass
and like i'm down obviously everyone's down, like, I'm positioned slightly well enough
that I can touch some fucking grass, right,
and not sit on this fucking app and get some perspective
and then come back here and hear these voices
and, like, know that the world isn't ending
and be like, fuck, we're back at 85, right?
Everyone thought the fucking sky was falling at 78,
however many days ago that was.
So I just think like
you know the aggregate of the voices that you're hearing here are right and you just got to do
some fucking research like you are not gonna like pray and hope to get rich without trying
working and grinding for this shit like and you know 0.01 percent of your will i think but uh
it's an interesting time to come back in
as we see this wave of optimism
when the reality is we might go back to 78
and fuck around there for a month or two
and everyone's going to fucking be up in arms
and freaking out again.
The long term, we all know we're good.
Rant over there.
I appreciate that.
My thing is, and you said it, like there's so many people here that you
can sit back and listen to, you know, and, and get something from, you can walk away
with some sort of perspective on the markets.
Cause they've been here.
A lot of people have been here for a very long time.
They know how to read the markets.
Okay.
Do they get it right all the time the markets okay do they get it right all
the time no do i get it right all the time absolutely not anybody who tells you that they
get it right absolutely 100 of the time it's just like full of shit can you know but you can write
these things down right and you can study them and you can put yourself into a better position
right nothing's guaranteed none of these things that we've gone into except now bitcoin and you can put yourself into a better position, right? Nothing's guaranteed.
None of these things that we've gone into,
except now Bitcoin.
And I can say that on my chest.
Except for Bitcoin,
nothing's really guaranteed here in this market
because Bitcoin has escaped that bubble.
Hey, and if you're in memes,
your goal should be to be deployed
in primarily Bitcoin long-term anyway.
Correct.
So at the end of the day, if you're not like coming on here,
every time you open up this app, right,
you're not coming on here to sit in rooms
where people are really breaking it down for you.
And think about this, for free.
You're not being charged for this.
Like somebody spoke of Landy. Landy comes on here. He's doing this for free you're not being charged for this like somebody spoke of landy landy comes on here he's doing this for free bro like he really is like out here breaking down monday wednesday
fucking friday he's giving you free fucking analysis man it's free it's not behind a paywall
it should be it actually should be he should get money out of it because it's time and effort.
And you know what?
Paying him like $20 per fucking, you know, per month or some shit that that's pennies compared to what you'll get back.
Every there's a lot of people up here that drop fucking value.
A lot of people that drop value from an FAPA or a TA's fucking standpoint that you can go ahead.
Like you can, you literally guys, if you actually listened, you would be multimillionaires.
I can promise you that.
Or at least you would have a chance to be multimillionaires.
If you participate, if you come onto this app, if you've left your left your job okay if you quit being a stock boy
and there's nothing wrong with being a stock boy okay but like if you left all these jobs if you
left your corporate job to go full-time into this fucker okay then you don't sit in listen once in
a while you want to go sit in a comedy room go do that that's fine you want to laugh for an hour
that's perfectly fine but your time should be dedicated to studying this shit because a lot of you motherfuckers if you actually dedicated that
time you would have been buying in the red and not on the up because right now i guarantee you
there are so many people that are like holy shit it's green i'm jumping in instead of jumping in
instead of saying holy shit it's red i'm going in that's that should be that should
be your thought process buy at the bottom sell at the top good morning good morning jules how's it
going oh man i gotta i gotta i gotta apologize to jules, number one. See, I do public apologies, right?
Yesterday I went for a run.
A long-ass run.
Jules texted me, right?
And I'm like, bro, I'm doing this marathon.
I was about to hop in an Uber, bro.
This is too much.
Too much uphill shit.
Even the Nikes that I'm rocking, man.
These are state-of-the-art shit, bro.
I'm hurting at this point, man. i didn't sign up to go uphill okay and i would have put on some
different sneakers i'm like i told you yeah i'll meet with you but and then i'm like as i'm running
i'm like i need an uber man i need to meet with some oxygen now but uh i did some fucking training
yesterday we'll talk today i today. I love that apology.
That is a David Gakstein apology.
Hey, I want to apologize,
but I want to tell you about this badass 20 mile run out.
No, but that was, no.
You know what I'm so, Jules, before you take the mic,
I'm so focused on, like, I told you guys, like, weeks ago,
I'm taking the weekend off, and some people DM me said, you're fucking crazy. This is a time to lock in. I'm like, I told you guys like weeks ago, I'm taking the weekend off. And some people DM me said, you're fucking crazy.
This is a time to lock in.
I'm like, no, because like the markets are red.
We're still like, from my perspective, we don't know what's happening.
And so, and investors with big money, they also are waiting on the sidelines.
Could shit pop off.
Could there be a fucking play that goes parabolic?
Absolutely. Do I miss on it absolutely but i am not going to chase and just be here stuck in an office all
damn day long not be physically fit you know like not entertain life like you have one life to live
enjoy it for me it's monday through fridays i'm not saying i don't work you know a little bit on
the weekends but it's not 18 hours i'm not doing i don't work you know a little bit on the weekends but it's not
18 hours i'm not doing that hey the work has been paying off i gotta tell you david this this guy
i don't want to hear a word about david gotch team this man's this dude is shredded i never i i i
thought he was a portly i thought he was dudley from uh from harry potter that's what i thought
he was in the goblet of fire out here
okay like you know dang bro but but nah david's uh bro he's shred of respect man those shoulder
caps like you got football pads on that's crazy i'm not trying to see you in person i'm gonna
tell you i you know i used to say things like david i want to see you i don't want to see this man in
person i don't want to see this man at no events. Never. Yeah, just keep that 5'1". I still want to be portrayed as a 5'1",
5'1", 164-pound person or whatever.
But Jules is going on, man.
I didn't mean to just break it up like that.
But I had to issue that apology.
Oh, you're good.
You're good.
No, kind of along the same lines is Hinox and Adza.
No, I just wanted to chime in. There is no certainty in this market. In fact, one of the telltale signs that the bears are overreacting i don't want to say they're wrong because they they were right in some but they're overreacting is the absolute certainty that they that they have um and with and so for
me so i say this market isn't easy but what is easier is when you're because we talk about like
there's different spaces i mean this has been a very split space over the past like couple months uh in the sense that people who are absolutely sure
we're going higher and people who are absolutely sure that it's over which is very mentally jarring
and I remember that in the bear market it was my first bear market it was very jarring and that is what drew me to ta
drew me two guys like landy that i know um that have been here for a while been in financial
markets and one of the one of the tricks that i have learned because i i i gave david a hard time
about your your pause market we're going higher but one of the things that I've learned along the
way is that the noise doesn't matter. The charts do. And one of the things like three weeks ago
that I started doing is pouring over charts to look for the end. I was looking for the end.
I was looking for this is over. and the more and more i looked into it
because there were respectable people out here large accounts right uh the more and more i looked
into it the more and more i realized uh that this uh uncertainty from the tariffs is like our COVID, financial COVID of this cycle. And there was a lot of
money made, a lot of money made from people who bought the dip, whether it was short term or
long term. So like, I guess what I'm trying to say is you got to separate from people's noise
and feelings. I heard a lot of feelings and feelings are attached to price. Feelings are
attached to round tripping bags and not taking profits. And so then your judgment gets clouded.
It's the the opposite is also true when we reach the top. You don't feel you. Everyone was saying
in November, December, once Trump comes in, holy shit, you know, instant candles to 150.
You know, we're going to half a million Bitcoin.
Fuck it.
We might go to a million.
But that's because people were up hella a lot.
And the arrogance, you could smell it everywhere.
And then the irony is the people who lived off of those feelings, a lot of them, and round-trip bags, got panicked the fuck out of the market when we started making, quite honestly, a healthy retrace.
I don't think we're out of the woods yet, but I do think that we have a lot of data points to draw from that are like, oh, hell no, this ain't the end.
This is actually, this dip is a is a gift
we're not out of the woods yet there's a lot still to come uh but what i noticed i i don't know if
you noticed landy what i noticed is the bounce on that 50 week moving average for like eth bitcoin
and then the hold over the weekend while the markets are closed.
Right.
And then you're kind of looking at it.
You're looking at it like, oh, fuck, is this shit going to fall over again?
And it held pretty well.
And I look at I'll land the plane here.
I look at strength in the market.
Not always as price goes up, which a lot of DGNs do.
And it took me so long.
Phenomenal point.
Phenomenal point.
It took me so long to get out of the
mentality of strengthen the market as price go up but strength in the market can also be
what is negative that's being priced in and how is how are charts holding in extremely volatile
times very very quickly i was in a quant chat, another one, and one
of the guys in there was like, he's an experienced guy.
He said, one of the things I really want to get better
at is my ability to conduct
analysis and see what's coming
when it comes to a chop.
Being able to see we're going to chop
and studying ranges
versus just going up or versus going
down. Very, very phenomenal
point right there.
Like, there's so much value in understanding that.
I'm sure Landy, you know, knows all that.
You feel like it held well over the weekend, Landy?
Landy, where's my more blanket?
Come on, man.
Morning, David.
Good morning, guys.
Good morning. Oh, I have a question. Yo, is each season here? Is it all Good morning, guys. Good morning.
Another question.
Is it season here?
Is it alt season time, guys?
Oh, gosh.
Can we get one question first before you get your security blanket? I hesitate to tell you that it's alt season when Bitcoin dominance is at 63.5%.
So there might be some time for alt season to develop. But, you know, I think,
look, it's pretty obvious that traditional markets, Bitcoin hit some pretty critical levels
that were worth bidding for many like myself. I can't speak for everyone because there's
obviously looking across the timeline, a lot of people that did not bid. And I think that they are getting a little bit of FOMO, which makes me a little bit
cautious around some of the key levels that price is at in markets. But we have to see how things
develop. Healthy structure would require, no matter where this puts in a high, to go back down. So
there's always opportunity in markets.
If it's going to be a healthy structure, it's going to come back down. And that's where people
are going to get scared. Because whether it's a healthy structure or it's an unhealthy structure,
so whether it's bullish or bearish, it will come back down at some point and people will get the
shit scared out of them. And then we're going to be back to tears on the timeline. I'm glad I didn't buy and all like all this other crap. Right. So, um, and then you're going to get
people who will proclaim that they know exactly that that was going to happen and that the low
is not in and all kinds of stuff. Look, it's Trump and it's the, it's the T word and it's,
you know, all this other stuff. And realistically, if you have a difficult time identifying opportunity in markets, which I've been talking about for a long time, you just have to identify opportunity when it comes and you get into your convictions.
Right. You get into what it is that you believe is going to perform and stand the test of time.
And, you know, unfortunately, some people don't heed that advice or need to learn it the hard way.
And that's OK. The longer you're in the market, if you're going to stay here for a while, you'll learn eventually.
You can't hold everybody's hand.
hand um and also you know there's there's a lot of things about this move down um that were pretty
predictable about leverage and markets um but also it was primarily narrative driven not really
fundamental driven um fundamentals might turn you. Um, but at this particular moment, they aren't there.
So I just take it, take it one step at a time.
Identify opportunity and stand for the longterm.
Landy or anybody else on, on the panel, I was looking through some numbers a couple
days ago, bro, these CEXs,'s bro they have liquidated so many traders we bro
i think we broke two records that i know are for sure since covid of the most amount of money
liquidated within like a 24 hour period one time and then a three-day period another time. By the way, just for the audience,
just for the audience,
if you guys don't know what CEXs are,
it's the actual cabal.
Any freaking idiot here,
like anytime you ever see anybody on this app
talking about the cabal,
Henoch, the cabal,
name your favorite influencer,
is genuinely
one of the most retarded morons on this app and if you actually listen to their financial advice
you will fall off the cliff lose millions of dollars and you're going to come back next cycle
repeating the words that i'm saying to you but five years from now so that's the actual cabal
just so you know yeah we Yeah, we had one.
Was it one day where we liquidated $2 billion?
And then there was a three-day period where we liquidated like another billion dollars or something like that.
It's been insane, man. But what it is is a lot more people are trading perps now.
And they're doing dumb shit man like 50x 100x leveraged longs and shorts at with size so these market makers are it's a it's a
fucking mess man a lot of this job has to do with do. I was looking at a history of how many mass liquidations happened over the last three months.
It was fucking nuts, dude.
It looks like a bowling ball is going through the fucking chart, just liquidating shit.
Well, I'll provide you a little perspective.
Last cycle in 2021, because I also keep pretty close track on liquidation data and open interest.
For Bitcoin alone, we had $4.5 billion liquidated when Bitcoin put in its high at $65,000 that same
week. That's just longs got liquidated $4.5 billion. Shorts got liquidated for about a billion.
And then on the move down and through that consolidation spring to summer, before it went up to make a new all-time high at $69K, it liquidated another $3.5 billion and another just about $1.5 billion in long and short positions.
To put that in perspective, this is how you know
retail is not really here. We have only really seen in aggregate a couple billion here and there,
the 73,000 when it made the new all-time high before the halving. And more recently,
we have seen about 1.7 billion, another billion and a half or so since then.
But that's just Bitcoin alone.
And maybe that's a sign of the times changing because liquidity, the market's bigger.
We obviously have had more liquidity in the markets.
And with memes and altcoins, maybe the aggregate liquidations are much larger.
But it's very interesting to observe that all of what I have been maintaining as retail is not here.
And I don't know if they're ever going to come back in the way that we've seen in prior cycles.
They'll still be here.
No, they're coming.
Where are they going to go, though?
Are they going to go for that?
They're going to memes.
No, no, no.
Memes, that's it.
100%.
Like me, the proliferation,
all these people in these spaces,
all these people in the meme economy
are going to be spreading the story
of their 800x.
You know, the only reason I agree with Henock on that,
and this is going to sound so disconnected and dumb,
but Coachella just happened,
and there was a guy that was looking at ticket sales
and noted that a record level of people financed
or put Coachella on their credit cards.
If people will do it for fucking coachella they'll do it for an imaginary 100x i still think that psychology fits
i mean i this would explain why i see and i've noted for a little while that meme coins show
relative strength in the market at least until they went into their bear cycle here.
But they're still moving with Bitcoin,
and they were first movers with Bitcoin.
So, I mean, that does track pretty well.
Yeah.
And retail gets tired.
I mean, you know, when they come back,
we'll probably see some really good Xs there.
Yep.
That's exactly where I was headed.
That's where I was headed.
Your meme coins are the indicator for retail.
So, and it's so fascinating to watch this happen, this cycle.
Last cycle, memes didn't start until mania.
I don't even know that it was really about the liquidity cycle.
I think it was just proliferation of culture or the innovation of tech.
I think it was more of a function of that.
Meaning if SafeMoon, SHIB and Doge had done what they had done in 2019,
memes or 18 or 17, memes would have ran at the beginning.
Memes are the retail gauge.
So and I've been saying this the entire cycle.
I believe memes are going to run parallel
with every single aspect of the liquidity cycle. So when Bitcoin rips, memes are going to run parallel with every single aspect of the liquidity cycle so when
bitcoin rips memes are going to go too when all when each season happens memes are going to hit
when all season happens memes are going to hit and when we hit mania memes are really going to hit
and memes are going to follow the liquidity cycle parallel parallel tracks and on trains the the
best thing about all this right is there's a secret part of retail,
which is like every single 401k superannuation retirement account
in fucking every country that is going to buy a small percentage
of the larger fucking cryptocurrencies.
And that will filter down.
And that is also retail, literally like literally like you know poor choice of words
whatever but they're forced into buying a high risk asset because the financial markets have
decided that is a high risk asset worth adding to the bag right and that's like well why are you
buying but but but why would you buy bitcoins right? So to your point, why is anyone buying Bitcoin for a 2X?
I'm talking about a retail, like, you know, if your parents work their whole lives, dude,
and they're retiring on a fund, like that fund will have 4%, 1% Bitcoin in 10 years.
Oh, I got you.
In two years.
That is also retail.
That is every motherfucker with a job, right?
That's like another percentage of money from retail that is coming
that is not just meme centric that also pushes into the mains and normalizes things and i think
it's just uh extra bullish to like note that that is something we haven't had any other cycle
i i i am in agreement with anybody who says that retail is still not here and i'm just going based on stats
and the stats say americans and i know more than americans participate in these markets but
if you just look from an american standpoint the the debt is ridiculous so i don't know who has the
time to you know go ahead and say oh yeah i, I'm just getting myself some memes instead of paying the rent.
It's kind of like, well, I believe once that's once that market is taken care of, once once we bring down the debt, right?
Consumer debt. Retail brings down their debt.
I can see them. I can even see them coming into this market with dead
because yeah there you go david there you go right because because they're friends because
i see two possible i've been on friday i was kind of like looking at the whole retail situation
right and those are the two things because people did mention and all they'll still come in and you
know i started to agree with that because people will get hungry and by the way that's it right there by the way if i'm huffing and puffing i just did
like a hundred fucking push-ups but you know at the end of the day at the end of the day
retail's not here they will come in and they come in through memes like they seriously do man like
if you if you look at if you look at all our stats within this ecosystem,
it always starts there.
I've met all my friends,
really good friends on this application through memes,
and they never had Bitcoin,
and then they got Bitcoin.
So memes are a great path to getting yourself Bitcoin.
They will ultimately end up getting bitcoin and ethereum
like i can bet anybody on that half the people that get in will get will get bitcoin and they
will get ethereum through the e uh through uh through the meme coins it's like the more
the more their debt goes up the faster they'll be here because they're drowning. There is no way out of
the matrix. And you're looking at your friend who's online. You're looking at your favorite
TikTokers who are getting paid to promote these memes. You're seeing me. First of all, crypto is
proliferating anyway. And then they bought some Bitcoin. They sat on it for three weeks. It's
moved 2%, which is perfectly amazing, like 2% a month, right? That's an amazing return.
2%, which is perfectly amazing, like 2% a month, right?
That's an amazing return.
2% a month ain't moving the needle for that guy who's a mailman.
And so then they're clicking buttons about Bitcoin,
and they see a video suggested to them on the side from Henock
talking about 800x meme coin podcast, blah, blah, blah.
And they say to themselves, oh, my God, there's actually a way out here.
So, yeah, they're 100% coming through the front door of meme you know you know a very simple thing um why i know retail is gonna
like emphatically like can guarantee retail will come back despite people's feelings look at pump
fun what are the numbers on pump fun has taught us a very, very important thing. The numbers are what not over 99% fail in,
in like the first 24 hours and less than 1% of the wallets that have
interacted with pump on have made,
I think it's even like half a percent have made more than $10,000,
10,000 or over in profit.
What is that taught us about memes and about the meme coin
economy is that even when the odds are stacked against people the and and we have had like
desperate times in crypto we've had like weird chop and we've also had a lack of liquidity in
memes um comparatively we because of bitcoin dominance so bitcoin dominance is up super
high and what's happening well pump funds mitten fucking we're all time high all time high on memes
all time all time high on production of memes so the point i'm trying to make is that the this is
full on the casino at this point but so don't you think the it's the green candles that
will bring the crowd rushing back in and they yes they'll be so inexperienced relatively they'll
just it'll be robin hood and there won't be much time because say it's always at the end of the
cycle when it's you've got like that little window and they're Russian, and they've got no idea,
but they just see Instagram, TikTok,
and then they see Robin Hood, and they see the frog.
So there's no Dex's.
It'll just be like Coinbase or whatever, like easy.
I didn't hear the first part because my headphones cut out sorry crusty
no no sir i'm just that the green candles will bring them rushing in and they're totally
inexperienced but they're not even watching the candles it's their friend down the road or the
tiktok videos it's the stories proliferated hold on that's what's going to bring them in hold on
indirectly let me point out the thing is like they will come on the green candle, some of them,
and some people will lose.
But I guess the perspective is we're sitting here as people
that are in this space right now, right?
Seeing what's going on now and speculating on the future.
So by definition, the new players come in as the price goes up.
But it's...
Can I answer Krusty's question?
Because he brings up a great point.
Yeah, yeah.
And then we'll go to Andrew.
Go ahead.
We're just going to run this today while David does his push-ups.
Sorry.
I'm very excited about the market right now.
I think there's an immense amount of opportunity.
But Krusty, I'll tell you, I did think that at one point.
I'm like, all right, euphoria, euphoria.
Like, it's going to be crazy.
And then the green candles.
Bro, like these green candles have only lasted on –
Pump Fund's whole business model is pump and dumps.
That is their business model, right?
Like, and a few of them survive. And yet
we have seen a record level of memes created and a record level of memes talked about arguably.
So my point is you don't even have to wait for the green candles to, I mean,
if you want to, you can. I that the the what pump fun revealed is that
and shout out to C Casa because he was the first person who kind of pointed my my thinking in this
direction there's like a there's a brain chemistry hack via pump fun with hyper gambling. And even if people know the stats have been published, that this shit lasts for a
few hours, they have brought in record levels of revenue and profit because people are that
desperate to make it in the memes. So I do think you're right, but I think this industry is expanding and growing, and we don't need the giga green candles on Shib or Doge or Pepe to bring retail in.
Retail will come in.
They will see somebody on TikTok talking about something off of PumpFun and how they made $50,000 in a day, and that is the fucking brain chemistry hack.
And that's been happening happening and it's gonna happen
at much larger level and dude it is happening i think people just want retail to come in in like
a week and a half right that's the problem but like as you pointed out like this shit is happening
retail are coming it's very slow but it But, uh, like there's exactly like even the trenches, dude, there's just weeks where there's
nothing that runs and then shit runs for a while.
And then it's like dead again.
Right.
Like it all ebbs and flows.
Like it's like the fucking ocean up, down always, you know, but like you can figure
out the average of the fucking waves.
I just think, again,
money gets transferred to the patients
that learn the fucking patterns
and ignore the desire to fucking react to their emotions,
which feel correct at the time and we know always aren't.
Bro, what we're all describing right now
is meme coins are decoupling.
We're experiencing the great decoupling. All right
The broader market We need is
Like you no longer the insiders the cabals that shit's all gone. It's it's it's
the cabals that shit's all gone it's it's it's bonito because i'm never leaving and true bro i
need some bitcoin to decouple first from the s p bro like we're a little bit away bro have you been
seeing the most the most retarded craziest coins thus far have right now currently are going
parabolic and i and i was sitting there i was thinking about that someone said in the space
before and i was like that's actually a great point. These VCs can't risk touching that shit.
They already had to get so much approval just to buy our fucking animal coins.
You know what I'm saying?
So now they're not going to buy fucking Retarcoin and freaking Farcoin.
That's why we're seeing these things go absolutely parabolic, bro.
And I just think Pump.Fun saved the market.
I think Pump.Fun saved the market.
That is quite a take.
And retail is among us right now.
90% is probably retail.
The reason fuck
is retail.
Retail is just sidelined.
They're fucking eager.
They're just sidelined.
I had to stop my workout
to say he's retarded.
Back to the show.
I got to jump in here real say he's retarded you guys back to the show
You're right meme coins did decouple and they decoupled when when Bitcoin made its all-time high and then meme coins went down
I'm talking about I'm not talking about I'm not talking about the old meme coins on eth chain mathematics of correlation or hold on hold on we're gonna we're gonna let andrew cook landy and then randy go ahead all right pretty much what i'm talking about is like no matter
what we're gonna see memes run with trends with uh you know different different things happening
on the news any anything like that we're gonna see meme coins run like we've seen it um right now with like and i'm not
shilling my bags but we've seen it look we had retard finder coin come out we had elon soft
showing that had a hundred mil runner in the in the past i think it's like less than 20 days
like larp brain whatever we're gonna continue bro wait you say larp don't bro you can't do that if elon
is showing it nah we can't do that we cannot do that but yeah that's all i gotta say freaking
right now pumped off on is the biggest on border there isn't crypto so look i agree that memes are
gonna run with bitcoin and memes are speed running cycle theory so i think that they're gonna recover
and they will do well and new ones that launch will do well i think that the uh you know the top five top 10
have a shot at their all-time highs but but to equate that to a decoupling is hilarious
everyone everyone just wants the meme coins. There's a line, Adza. Where are you from? Are you from the UK? Let Randy cook.
Yo, I want to decouple fucking Andrew out of this room.
Okay.
I got to say this real quick, Krusty.
What I will say is meme coins have tended to be the leading indicator.
Meme coins pushing off the lows and performing quite well.
What did we see strength in?
Bitcoin.
So if you want a cheat sheet, when they started dumping off hellaciously, you knew that liquidity was drying up.
So therefore, what did we see in markets?
Bitcoin legging down, altcoins legging down.
And now meme coins are trying to find their base. They're running.
You got new ones popping off that are doing very well and actually holding their pump. That's a change of character. So I will give you that. But bro, people who say the
word decoupling, and I know you're using it to be funny, but it makes me laugh my ass off.
Do you remember when Bitcoin decoupled from the stock market for about four days?
Yeah.
And then.
Yeah, by moving down first.
And then stopped doing that.
Bro, I woke up.
I opened my app.
Everyone's like, decoupling, decoupling.
And then I was like, oh, shit.
Okay.
Four days later.
It coupled.
It's over.
It's over.
Yeah, it coupled.
It recoupled.
Yo, you know what they've been saying, bro?
The best definition of intelligence is the ability to predict the future.
Andrew, what's wrong with you, bro?
There's a line here.
See, you're from New York.
This is the problem.
Randy, go ahead.
I'm also from New York, and I didn't cut the line.
So I feel like that says a lot.
All right, if you're from New York, get out of the space.
Y'all are the most disgusting.
I'm just fine.
Go ahead.
Excuse me, sir.
You know, we also have animosity
that could just pop out at any moment.
So I would watch it because we also have
an attitude. Anyway.
I'm just joking.
But yeah, David, I hope you're
not too sore from those push-ups, man.
I hope you've been hitting those legs, too.
Can't forget about leg day.
Always hitting them legs.
Yeah.
Get out of the knee. Get out of the knee. too. Can't forget about leg day. Always hitting them legs. Yeah.
Get off the knee. Get off the knee.
Yeah. Yeah.
I went to the gym all weekend. I don't know
if David can really, I think I can out fitness
David, but there's no way.
There's no way.
Yeah, I could, David. I know you're
scared of me, but it's fine.
But I was going to say something a little bit
more serious from the
from what the meme coins i just think retail needs to be scared into crypto in some sort of way
because i believe like when we saw all those bank failures a few years ago i think it definitely
pushed people to be their own bank and get into bitcoin and crypto so i think if we see the
dollar start to um decline in the world trade type situation, especially because if you look up
the dollarization and all these other countries that are skewing away from the dollar for trade,
it's going to cause a lot of fury among people and the bank failures, everything associated with
that, especially real estate. In the United States, there was one bank that basically almost
failed because they were tied to New York real estate, which was declining in value because New York is a mess. Anyway, back to the show.
And David's not as strong as me, but it's fine. Okay. Randy, you can dream. Shout out to Randy.
All right. We'll go ahead and do a 20 mile run. We'll see if you last.
I never said I was a runner oh no no no now
i'm not a runner yeah okay all right what are you running from let's do let's do the live press
david i want to see if those ankles can keep up yeah yeah i think i could keep up man i don't know
i have this feeling why are we i might keep up ankles I don't know. We went to the gym.
Randy got cankles
and she's coming at me.
No, what I wanted to say is
I'm waiting for, and I might
be wrong on this too, but I'm waiting for
a catalyst like we had
in 2021 and that particularly is
the Wall Street bets movement.
I think that brought a lot of retail, opened a lot of eyes to retail to come into here.
And obviously, Robinhood made it easy in the beginning.
You had a lot of people that were into stocks and then they rolled themselves into memes or into crypto, which was predominantly memes.
So I'm waiting for that. I'm kind of like, I have that written. So I'm waiting for that.
I'm kind of like, I have that written down.
I'm waiting for that to happen.
If it happens, it's great.
But if it doesn't, I still see us being successful.
I still see people onboarding themselves through memes and going into Bitcoin.
Ultimately, three to four weeks.
Once people understand or get a better understanding of the ecosystem and people actually break down what Bitcoin is in layman's terms, people go into Bitcoin.
They buy at a fraction and then they'll eventually have a whole Bitcoin.
And people should start worrying now, sitting back and thinking, you know what?
Only 21 million.
Three, probably what?
Three to four million is probably lost. Let me say three. I'll keep it at three to four million is probably lost let me say three i'll
keep it at three three millions lost we don't know how many wallets are no longer uh are able to be
accessed by original owners so like it's super scarce right how many people how lucky will you
be to own just one bitcoin and that should be everybody should
sit back for a second and think about that especially if you're in crypto and think
holy shit if i just own one bitcoin and that might seem like oh my god that's nothing but
if i just own one bitcoin and its projection is to hit a million and just just right now it's like I'm not going into the 10 million
thing that Saylor says and all this shit
but let's keep it
you want to say 22 million for whatever it is
yes sir
barcoin will outperform that in the short term
in 3 years it will be
0.1 bitcoin
0.1 bitcoin and you'll be
fucking rich in 10 years
the analogy last cycle was or I was saying in 2016 was
One Bitcoin and 32 ETH
So yeah, if you can get yourself there, right if we still use the same analogy, right?
We use the same thesis one Bitcoin 32 E
You should be fine. you should be fine for the
rest of your life but if you're like andrew no andrew wants 35 000 fart coins and three that's
a great rfcs that that's what he wants so he's right right i put my one Bitcoin into 4coin. I start printing Bitcoin.
I turn it into my Bitcoin miner.
You cannot say a word about
Andrew. You just made $3.00 during
the downturn.
Everybody
likes to get on Andrew. I do it
playfully. Me and him
jab back and forth. It's all playful.
He's done
a lot of shit that I want to smack the shit out
of him for but like otherwise he's young he's growing up and you know he's he's making money
man like whether people like it or not he's making money he's locked in okay he's eating fucking
bread with nothing between it so like he's out there he's grinding away and he's he's trying to
make something out of himself i can appreciate appreciate that. Instead of people coming on here
talking about men's measurements
and thinking that this is Grindr instead of
X, where we all come here,
especially here for crypto advice.
No, fuck that. Never. I give
no oxygen to people, but I will make
those statements.
Sikasa's hand is about to fall off. Oh, Sikasa's here.
I didn't even see. Hello, Sikasa.
Hope you had a great weekend.
Yeah.
What's up, DG? Don't sound too
happy, though.
You know, you've been sitting here. What's up, yo?
No, it's like
your homie comes in and you're like, oh, yeah, let him
sit in the fucking, in the corners
while I do these push-ups
on my knees and pretend to run
instead of engage.
Exactly.
We all know what's going on.
In a conversation.
Yo, you know I got the app, man.
You can't fuck around with that fucking health app on your iPhone.
So whatever.
Yeah.
What's it say?
Keep going.
keep going not enough um yo like i had a just a there's been a recalibrate because dude you know
Keep going.
Not enough.
a lot of the um attempts from these momos to sways people's perspectives when it's really easy to
uh during the red times when shit is down bad how easy is it to step on the fucking
on the head of some shit when it's literally down on the ground um but it's just like
there are not many fucking projects that have a group of based uh artists and creators and builders
that show up consistently month after month after month and what we're seeing with
brainlit making the change back i was like what am i thinking to even second guess some of this
shit man like fuck these guys if you aren't recognizing the difference between some of
these projects like bobo uh by the way, happy birthday, Pepe.
Two years.
A lot of us are algorithms on this day two years ago.
And my dog DG and I, even though I always saw him hosting spaces and stuff, we didn't
We didn't really, you know, I was in stick figure algorithm.
really, I was in stick figure algorithm.
So it was really dope when we all kind of joined forces along with many other people along the way.
It was a huge catalyst for a lot of us to just come together and fucking get through these, the good times and the difficult ones with people that, you know, genuinely love this space.
with people that genuinely love this space.
And anyways, with what I was saying, though,
looking at Brainlit and looking at a lot of these other charts
that have been down, but the artists are here
and we're not fucking going anywhere.
We've been consistently cooking for these projects.
Bobo is another one another one obviously close to heart
there's there are others too um if you take the time to look uh you know at some of the home team
projects while you you could you could have just grabbed a little bit of brainlit for fucking
five hundred dollars and be in a vastly different place and it's not it's not
going to stop anytime soon guys like watch what the fuck these artists do um and i don't give a
fuck obviously i'm not a mind reader or a fucking fortune teller i don't read charts. I fucking put one brick on top of the other with a bunch of other people who have their own abilities. the caliber of fucking innovation and attempts to add extra layers to the substance of what the
project represents and also finding ways like all the different shit that's happening on base
to be able to harness and integrate and to scale with the new technologies that are being shipped
by builders on base who are just built different as well um if you're not recognizing
that not all these memes are built the same and there are so many red charts that uh have real
substance and motherfuckers that are there because they genuinely love the memes and the memes are
rooted in culture and they're rooted in fucking history of of of how we got here um then i think
you're overlooking a great opportunity but the fuck do i know i'm just a watch this motherfucker
brother ticker was always brainlit i just want to put that out there
are y'all fun in my bags right now y'all like my bag yeah i'm fun i'm fun the fuck out here
that retard finally needs to just find itself. Oh, my God.
It needs to say, oh, yeah, we found out.
Yo, David, back me up, you know, David.
Ain't no backing up here, bro.
He's from New York.
Hey, listen, real quick.
We need to answer the question.
Is it too late?
There are guys who've been listening to us for months, sitting here going, you know,
we didn't invest, we didn't deploy.
It's too late.
I'm going to tell you, no.
Here's why.
It's never too late.
You just get the fucking entry you deserve.
Yes. Well, there's that. There's two points I want to make here.
For those that want to utilize other assets as a vector to get more Bitcoin,
understand that Bitcoin, you never have to sell.
Those other assets, you do have to sell.
And there's a lot of people that don't have the skill or the wherewithal to actually know when to sell those assets to get into Bitcoin.
Many on the stage and maybe even many in the audience do. And that's why it pays to be
diversified in markets. But the other thing is, you know, what's funny and how, you know, retail still got some money is if you've been watching over the weekend with all of the Chinese manufacturers going to TikTok, going to Instagram, and even here on X, promoting their products and the brands that they, that slap their label on the stuff that they're creating.
slap their label on the stuff that they're creating and putting out of their factories,
whether it's Under Armour, Lululemon, Nike, and all of the others, which, by the way,
if you're going for any of this stuff, you check the manufacturers to make sure that they really
are the OEM manufacturer for some of this stuff, because you're going to get a lot of ones that are going to say they are when those are the fakes. But retail is now aping in and buying bulk in $2
handbags and Luluman and reselling that stuff. So you know that they've got money and they're
looking. So I do 100% agree with they're going to look at meme coins, right?
And if they're going to, if these factories continue to do this during this time period where the United States and China are going back and forth in a tariff war, you're probably
going to see more and more of this because they can't just have stock sitting there.
And they have to find ways to get it out of there.
They have to keep doing business to keep people ways to get it out of there. They have to
keep doing business to keep people employed or they go out of business, right? It's pretty easy
to understand. Retail is now catching onto this and starting to ape in in ways that I was pretty
surprised about just over the weekend. And if they're successful, guess what they're going to
do? They got some extra money. They're going to go and they're probably going to look at meme coins.
But the point still stands.
While you might be able to know when to sell, many in retail don't.
So they might want to even get into Bitcoin.
I need to do what Andrew said.
And it's a vector for me to make or he knock.
And it's going to be, you know, I can make 100x over here and that'll give me more money to go and put into Bitcoin.
Plus I could still play in this playground.
Right.
But many just don't know how to do that.
So that is, that is not, um, you know, the market is not nice in that regard of like,
oh yeah, it's going to go up.
And when you sell, when you're ready to to sell you'll be able to sell at the price
that you want. No.
That's just not how it works.
Isn't that the same thing for Bitcoin too though?
Isn't that the same thing for Bitcoin too?
I'd never have had to sell my Bitcoin.
I've never been a forced seller of Bitcoin
because I've always wanted more.
Yeah, but there's right times to sell
so you can accumulate more and there's right times to buy.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, if you want to pay capital gains tax then good luck with all that i think landy's
point is that like bitcoin is a good fucking bet one ten five twenty million years in the future
and a shit coin is not three months from now i think bitcoin is something you pass on to
future generations like that's how i do it thank you
you take loans against it you don't need to sell it it's a fucking asset wealthy people do not spend
their money they borrow against the assets they already have land yeah that's all i can say it's
it's manhattan real estate guys in 1904 landy the the the one kind of distinction I want to make, though, where I agree with everything
you said, by the way, this is not like a counter argument, but there is a distinction between
shit coins and meme assets. And the reason I'm saying that is with the home team memes that
we are focused on with like the Jungle Bay artists, etc.
We're treating this like an early stage company and they're becoming pillars of something that we are scaling with a vision in mind that's a five to eight year time horizon.
And I know that sounds whimsical as fuck, but it's not. It's realistic and it takes into account that there's going to be a significant dip in another cycle, whatever.
But if you're building capped supplies, vehicles, right, these tokens have a relatively small amount of people in crypto right now, a cap supply, renounce contracts.
And essentially, that's what it is, supply and demand off of whatever can be, whatever interest,
whatever mindshare capture can be generated through the means of memetic sorcery. And again,
that's tongue in cheek, but there is substance behind it because if you can have a connectivity and a
long-term scalability by just capturing the minds and hearts of people that feel an affinity toward
these memes that are based in culture, that are the reason why crypto is changing in front of our
eyes, the stigma that it's had for a long time the same
way that bitcoin did bitcoin is another great meme um it's just at a different in a different
fucking echelon because it preceded it but the the it didn't necessarily precede some of these
memes it's just now is the layer for the meme assets to solidify their connection to people
and what they represent as capped assets, capped supply assets.
So I do think that, yes, Bitcoin, it's undeniably the best investment,
but I don't view all of these other meme assets necessarily as like oh yeah
this is a means to to sell for for more bitcoin because this is a different layer of the digital
um money economy uh the crypto in in general and i just think that this is a new frontier
and there's gonna there's they are not all built the same and they should not be viewed
as that because i think you're like making the distinction between like real memes like pepe that
have a cultural relevant significance in history versus what i've heard just called fucking tickers
right like if some shit happens on tiktok you know and it's like popular for a week it's a
fucking ticker that is not a meme
and we colloquially refer to them as shit coins those are tickers but like
memes have now become their own thing but that's like the fucking premium shit we talk about and
i think you can separate that from the quote in the trenches right as of the one thing though
there's like an extra piece there.
Yes, there are other memes that have like, you know, history and lore or whatever behind them.
But a major component of the project, like who is running and scaling the proliferation of that meme project is important, too, because you could have an amazing meme i mean how many pepes preceded pepe but it was the people it was the timing it was the execution of it all um the
the memetic fucking fabric of it that that ended up being the deciding factor of what differentiated
ox69 from all the pepes that preceded it and established it as
no no like i i totally agree like you can have the best meme but there does have to be a team
and there has to be people that are excited about that thing and i think like honestly that's a big
clue for people out here wondering like when everything's minus 80%, 90% from all-time high, like, is there still a team of people memeing, pushing devs?
Like, people like Ccast are talking about something with fucking passion that know what the fuck they're talking about and aren't just sitting here like,
yeah, I have bags in this, buy it.
Like, they're telling you there's a reason and they're giving you actual, like, thought-out fucking reasons why you want to own an asset like
it's actually kind of easy to tell because a lot of this shit is vapor like you know a few hundred
people pushing a meme so they can use the u.s excellent liquidity I want to say real quick
before everybody else jumps on that you know with the meme economy we already know about Bitcoin for
those who are in the room you know about Bitcoin you know about aetherium you know with the meme economy we already know about bitcoin for those who are in the room
you know about bitcoin you know about ethereum you know about the big boys and what they're going to
do uh moving on in the future right memes you know you should be in my humble opinion you should
be getting behind memes that produce actual content because what is the utility behind a
meme right you know memes
supposed to make you feel some sort of way and that's just my personal opinion it's when you
when you see that meme yeah we're here for gains and we're here to make money on the meme but
when you get into these memes they're supposed to have content right the team is supposed to
hold on hanok listen to me for a second If the team is not constantly coming out with content,
if they're not memeing,
if the community is not memeing,
then it's just a zombie tinker.
That's all it is.
It's a zombie ticker.
It'll be good for 72 hours.
It can go up.
It can go to 50 million.
But then it's going to do the greatest drop-off of all time.
You're going to have everybody fucking selling out of all time you're gonna have everybody selling out of
it far coin proved you know but hold on did i just did they did i disrespect far coin did i say
anything better about that would be considered a ticker though if you think about it because
no no no no hold on hold on you're not listening you're not listening to what i'm saying everything
starts off as a ticker right if if we sit back and we look at everything it all starts off as a ticker, right? If we sit back and we look at everything, it all starts off as a
ticker. So the first week is crucial to where this actual ticker goes to, right? Zacasa said
there were plenty of contracts like Pepe, right? But this Pepe 0x69, it hit. Why? An entire
community came together. I mean, I might have known,
I've seen Sacasa around here,
but we weren't like dapping it up
and saying what's up, right?
But all this shit brought us all together.
And we memed,
there were 19 to 25 spaces open at the same time,
500 people in a bear market,
minimum in each space, bro.
When you have a community that is willing to meme,
willing just to break down the history and give their thoughts about the meme and continue to
spread that virus around, it wins. And that's what I'm talking about with the teams with these memes
now. You have to have content creation. It has to come out every single day you it has to be
memeable like it it really has to be memeable yeah you'll make money no doubt about it i will not
you will make money with these fucking zombie tickers you can sit there all day on you pairs
and you'll make money like i'm pretty sure you can do that. I don't want to do that. I want to have a weekend
off. I take my weekends off with no disrespect. I'm not trying to be arrogant or cocky or I'm
better than... No, no. I work Monday through Friday. I'm here 18 hours a day. I am trying
to go ahead and get myself into the best positions possible. But if you have to work on the weekends,
that means that you're not in a good position.
That means that you're chasing
instead of letting it come to you.
Completely disagree.
No, no.
Hey, you know what?
You want to talk about locked in?
That's great.
You could be locked in.
You imagine 18 hours a day,
seven days a week to be locked in.
That is it.
I love that.
That to me is insanity.
Bro, people are trying to speed run retirement theory.
No, you fucking buy.
You buy things like.
You talk about being the first one to ever call Mog.
You buy things like Mog, right?
You buy things like Bobo and Pepe.
I can name them all out to you.
You sit back and you watch them go up.
Because they've been tested and proven that they
can go ahead and recover from these type of markets and situations look at them they stayed
in the millions okay if they were shit they would have dropped look at the holder accounts that's
the biggest thing that i look at i don't look at the market cap i look at what is the team doing
what is the community saying how many holders are still here?
And if you, yeah, I'm talking about Bobo.
Look at Bobo.
They didn't lose much holders.
Not much holders left.
So that tells me something.
Look at a pool.
A pool went down, right?
But it went down and then recovered.
Like you can say whatever you want about unicorn fart dust.
It started off as a ticker.
Now it's something real because the community is not letting go of it. They're going to see it through. For all the shit people want to
talk about jailstool, fucking Portnoy
invested $16,000 into it today.
Again. So it's like
that crew is not going away.
These things turn
from tickers to memes
at some point. To cults.
Because you need a cult.
And if you let yourself get scared out of this
by people that are
gloating over red candles, which is
the most fucking muppet
behavior, easiest thing to do.
99% of motherfuckers
are not going to touch something when it looks like
ass, and they're going to buy it when it's
fucking going up already.
If you can't fucking recognize
the contributing factors and
the free market is just fluctuates in general and the arbitrage is in those ebbs and flows
and being able to recognize where the fucking passionate motherfuckers who are resilient as
fuck and have not uh uh have not put taking their foot off the pedal despite it being very uncomfortable to continue to
fucking build. That is a differentiating factor that should be overlooked and I think is
being completely overlooked. See, if you look at the people that talk shit about certain meme
projects, and I'll get off the mic right now and you guys can take over. But if you look at people that talk about certain projects, right?
And they point to it.
To me, I find that hilarious.
You point to one when the market is down completely.
I can never respect anybody after that.
When you just point to one asset while the whole market is, let's talk about the memes,
right?
The whole meme economy went down by like 90%.
Let's keep it real for what it
is 90 haircut 80 to 90 front fine i'll give you the 80 to 90 it decoupled from everything else
okay and it went down and i and i see people say well look what bobo look told you it was a scam
bro like the whole fucking market is down. What are you talking about?
These are the people that you're listening to.
I'm being serious.
Think about what I'm saying right now.
The entire meme economy lost billions of dollars.
And the first thing that you could do is look at Bobo.
This is what I'm talking about.
This is why people will stay poor. Okay about this is why people will stay poor okay this is
why people will stay poor and at the end of the cycle you'll be like holy fuck the people that
were out here during the red days talking and like not even mentioning market cap but just
talking about the ecosystem and bringing on conversations about crypto and the ecosystem and
how we will recover from ecosystem and how we will recover
from this and why we will recover from this and not just giving hopey amount you will be saying
to yourself why wasn't i in these rooms why wasn't i fucking at least participating in these
conversations why was i measuring a man's dick size on X when this shit belongs on Grindr.
Two things real quick.
One, grown men yelling at each other or yelling at imaginary people not in the room is the gayest shit I've ever seen in my life.
I love the red days because it's when the entire crypto market,
especially the memers, all decide to get naked at the same time. And you definitely see what everybody's rocking in this market with.
Here's my thoughts on whether it's Bobo, it's Brett, it's like I sport the Ponky badge so I get hella DMs, Ponky, whatever.
Here's the thing that I look at.
I always consider the source because it's way easier to move a new pump and dump than it is to constantly get people into your quote unquote long term rug farm or whatever.
Eventually you run out of customers to buy that shit.
And what I what I love about the red days is for me,
like I liked the poo before.
I liked him way more in the red because those motherfuckers,
the only meme coin community that I like when they fud shit,
I would say it's two.
It's Bobo and it's a poo because they get a hall pass.
Even if they fud my other shit i'm holding
because it's like a it's like a dick it's like a dick in a ball sack and they're like yo check
this out you're just like you can't help but laugh but like i pay attention to the people who
fud longer term meme coin communities usually they have a fresh ticker for you to ape into
uh this week it'll be a new one next month.
And then I look at people who talk about something like long term.
Then I look at the community and I go, holy shit, man.
Like, obviously these people actually believe in it.
Nobody's going to talk about shit that they don't actually hold for a long period of time.
And they're definitely not going to put their because they have to be right.
They came for
the glory they better be right if they keep talking about it long term because they're staking their
rep on it so for me i actually love the red days it's when the entire space decides to get naked
together and it's a beautiful thing damn sorry i i'm i'm back i don't want to see what i want
as i said before you know it's your money get into whatever the fuck you guys want
like i absolutely i am not you know a gatekeeper right we're not gatekeeping on your money so you
do what the fuck you want to
do but like if you're not learning from like we have a lot of dope individuals on stage man
whether you like them or not motherfuckers do bring value no matter what motherfuckers want to
say um if you're not listening and noting it down i don't know how you're like you can't be successful and this is free
like i have to say this again all this content is free for you to go ahead and just listen to and know down you can use your chad gbt's for this not to write out your tweets but for actually
researching the shit that you want to go into i heard there's an update on chad gbt where it will
allow you to understand the markets why don't you use all this stuff all this information that's
being dropped to you put it into that motherfucker and understand what the fuck you're doing devise a
fucking game plan no one to scale out don't ever be scared to fucking sell because somebody's
gonna point you out who gives gives a fuck? You came here
for generational. Let me step back from generational. You came here for life changing
money. That's it. And that should be your goal. Okay. You don't, you see here, most of the people
sometimes don't agree with each other and that's okay. They have a different perspective. Andrew
believes that you will make money in the trenches. You will make an absurd amount of money in the trenches more
than you will make in the OG memes, right? I believe the opposite though. I believe you can
make money everywhere. I believe if you just sit back and you have a good amount of something and
you just allow it to work, it work out i did the same thing with bitcoin
okay people said i should bring charlie sherman here and charlie told me that this shit will
never pass 500 bitcoin will never go if it goes to 500 thank god it'll be a fucking the greatest
blessing ever nobody imagined it would be at this fucking price so put that in perspective i'm not
talking about fucking memes are going to be at a million dollars per token all i'm saying is
there's a very good chance no there's an excellent chance that retail comes through the memes the
memes are going to pop and then those who are focused will pull out, scale out, and take some of that money, put into Bitcoin, into ETH, put some onto the sidelines, which you should because when shit pulls back, you'll have an opportunity to buy up more.
And you'll be in a fantastic position.
And guess what?
A lot of this shit you can get from here.
A lot of this shit you can get on Money Maxis. A lot of this shit you can get at 4 p.m. with Julie Kennes with her fucking show, The Crypto News on YouTube.
You can get this on the Nightly Recap.
You can get this on this show.
You can get this from Landy, bro.
Like, you can get this from so many fucking people if you just fucking choose to open up your ears and not come on here for fucking clout.
I see a lot of you
motherfuckers on here for clout in the crypto space, bro, get out of crypto and start reporting
on Britney Spears and her having psychotic moments. Okay. Cause that will give you more money from X
than it will for you. Clout chasing on fucking crypto X bro. I promise you this is not the place for you to be doing that
Anyway, I don't even know why I'm screaming at you. I'm just fucking amped the fuck up
I'm getting my workout in I will not I am going to be fuck
Besides my network going up even more. So I'm going out here with 12-pack abs,
okay? His ETH bag
is pumping. Look at this. This is an ETH day.
You can tell. No, it's not even that.
No, I'm just excited that this
time...
No, no. Before you go, I just
want to say the reason why I'm so pumped.
I thought about that this, as I was running
this weekend, I thought about this.
Going back to last cycle, there wasn't this amount of information or knowledgeable people
as there are now.
That's very real.
People have learned their lessons.
Hey, real quick.
I'm a land right now.
People have learned their lessons from 2021.
And a lot of really good people are bringing their experience into these rooms and telling you,
hey, I fucked up here. I won't do it again. And anybody who tells you I fucked up,
admits to I round trip, I won't do it again. And here's why. Those are the people you should be
following because they're being very transparent and telling you, hey, I rolled my entire bag down.
I won't do it again.
I learned from it.
And those are the people you learn from.
So you don't have that happen to you this cycle
because next cycle,
that's just going to be hard to make those life-changing gains.
Yeah, I agree.
One second.
I got to ask David a question first.
David, I know you're drinking water.
Did you finish the water in the water bottle?
Landy, you had me think, right?
So after the show, I look at my desk.
I have 14 and a half bottles, okay?
I don't know how I got the half in there, but I got 14 bottles.
Okay, I look at the bottles.
There's a little bit on the bottom. Like, I get it. I'm like, oh, shit I got 14 bottles. Okay. I look at the bottles. There's a little bit on the bottom.
Like I get it.
I'm like, oh shit.
He saw it.
Okay.
He peeped it.
I did drink it.
I threw everything out.
I read, I actually picked up a book this, this weekend.
Uh, Jordan Peterson got both of his books, read them.
I don't know.
It's because you fucking mentioned it.
I was like, let me read this shit one more time.
Even though everything's always clean,
I just had to go ahead and make sure,
make sure I pick up his book and read him.
And I like Jordan Peterson.
And I also read, uh, the 48 laws of power.
Um, there's a bunch of shit that I'm reading just, you know,
just to, you know, open up my motherfucking mind.
Bravo.
I was going to say that this cycle is
so different because last cycle we had our first bull meme run which we never had before that then
memes proliferated during the bear this is now the third cycle for me this is the second bull run
so you're getting wisdom and experience that will be in books 10 years from now but you're getting
in real time i want to shill two things.
Obviously, these spaces, Monday through Friday,
I wish I had had this four years ago.
I went on a round trip eight figures.
Number two, my podcast, okay?
Pin to the top, Meme Coin Podcast.
I interview people every month who have made millions,
lost millions, even a meme coin billionaire.
David, you're on deck, dog.
All of you are on this stage, okay?
I can only do a little bit at a time, but you should definitely listen to the podcast. I got
nothing to sell you. It's just alpha. Nice. I agree with that. I never get onto these podcasts.
Somebody invites me anywhere. Ideas of each other. That's new because previously the alpha was out
there, but you couldn't chat. You couldn't do the whole bouncing of ideas. If I can just come
with a quick perspective, because it sometimes seems like we're too blasé, because it wasn't
even like Trump's election, and the whole thing, it's like it's forgotten, the bitcoin strategic reserve the trump meme coin the friendly crypto friendly thing it's
like i think the the pump that came off that just over extended so now okay oh wow how horrible the
30 correction but it shouldn't have gone up that high and it's like we figured like david you were
mentioning you're waiting for a catalyst i don't think it's possible to have a bigger one than what's actually happening now.
No, Krusty, I believe the foundation has been laid out like never before in terms of the SEC, the CFTC, Trump, the bitcoin strategic uh reserve the crypto reserve i believe all that
thing and and we'll soon get like you know i think it's deregulation i would like to call that we'll
get regulation but it's more friendly for uh people in the united states to build out i think all
that's been laid out and it's it's been done great beautiful And people that I didn't expect to know about crypto have, you know, like David Sachs.
Like, I think he's a good hire.
And I just think that we need that Wall Street bets.
Like, there needs to be a Wall Street bets movement.
And I think it's coming because Trump said something.
I don't know.
We haven't even talked about it much.
But he said, I don't want, we haven't even talked about it much, but he said, I don't
want the Wall Street bros running the economy. And I really do believe, with all this that
happened that transpired in the last two weeks, I really do believe, in my heart, I believe Trump
gave Main Street an opportunity to participate like never before.
So if you took advantage, then you're sitting in a really, really good position.
And it just takes one, right?
If let's say Roaring Kitty comes back, let's say Roaring Kitty decides to come back and do a YouTube stream every single day. I can see us just completely
going apeshit. And remember, the rules and regulations are different than when he was
actually streaming. So I would like to sit back and think, what if Roaring Kitty comes back
and he starts pushing? And even if it's in the stock market,
what if he just starts pushing stuff? And the rallying cry goes out there, us against the
Wall Street bros, bro. I can see people. I can see people taking to that narrative. I can even see
regular people walking outside right now with a Robin hood application on their phone. I can see them saying, you know what? Fuck it. I'll put in $20. I'll put in a hundred dollars
because that's what you really need. It's not the $50,000 that you're waiting for.
You want the thousand dollars. You want the 500,000, $500 coming into this market.
That's what you're looking at. That's what I look for in any project i don't care about the fifty thousand dollar buys that's that's garbage to me the fifty thousand buy all that means to me is
that that person can go ahead and sink that ship at any time i want like a bunch of people coming
into projects yeah i agree that makes me bullish that that is like one aspect that that's i can
see that happening that's awesome like occupy wall
street but i was just thinking about generally like the the clarity of of what bitcoin has been
accepted as at the highest levels like something desirable and you just see the countries like
falling like dominoes really in in the announcements of like their willingness to accumulate and that
that's all trickle down stuff it's insane yeah but like bitcoin is different yeah yeah people
are greedy crusty there are people that are scaling out of gold and shout out to gold i'm
not gonna shit on gold but shout out to gold it. It's making all time highs. People are going into gold, obviously, or precious metals because
it's a safe haven. And some people might be scared about the economy and the way Trump's
moving and whatnot. So they go into gold. Okay, great. Have fun with the precious metals.
But I believe that once some people get some clarity on where this market is going, they scale out of these things and they go into Bitcoin.
Then they go into ETH. People are greedy, like people who make multi, multi, multi millions.
At some point, they start saying, like, where can I make more? And they will go into this new market.
They're being sold on this market. They are literally being sold on this market. BlackRock's selling them, Fidelity's selling them. I can name you
all the institutions and they deal with these people. They're selling their clients on how
revolutionary Bitcoin is. What do you think they're going to do? Okay, Bitcoin's here. Let
me get some ETH also. What do you these these these advisors aren't talking about other cryptocurrencies or clients aren't asking about other cryptocurrencies then it
promotes meme tokens go look at their stuff go look at their material that they've pushed out
go look at their meme index which nobody talks about let's talk about an institution that came
out with a fucking meme index let's talk about them pushing bobo and
pepe yeah bobo and pepe and pudgy penguins let's talk about that a little bit which doesn't get
talked about but yet bobo is a forced meme think about what i'm telling you man bobo's been around
forever and well before um anybody in crypto caught on to it uh what's what i think
is interesting that you just said is is about gold i did my first spot buy and over or spot sell
rather in over 10 years so that that's like that's a long time peter shift is calling peter shift is
calling he's he's a little mad because i had you you know, it's, it's, and when you say scaling out,
you know, it's not like I just dumped my whole freaking on my spot.
No, I have it.
I have plenty.
And this was just like, Hey, let's, this seems like a good, a good area to, uh, to take some
and cash it out and start exploring other things here.
You know, the power of retail is not to be faded.
I direct everybody over to Tesla.
And, you know, Tesla went down.
It crashed quite severely with all of the different stuff that was happening.
And kind of, you know, it was going with the market, obviously.
But it went down 56%. You know who helped set the low everybody going everybody that you saw going to
buy cars and support elon and tesla they helped set the low you got to remember tesla's at like
800 and it's right around 900 billion no it's at 800 billion market cap. Right? By the way, I appreciate everybody who was sold.
Yeah, well, exactly.
And then that nice little short squeeze, that was because of retail.
Now, obviously, you have professionals that are going to switch sides.
We see what's going on, right?
You know, okay, we see where the wind is blowing.
Let's get this rolling.
And obviously, they're going to bid onto it.
But you had people calling up their portfolio managers going to their
401ks and saying I want to allocate to this that's the power of retail and when
retail really gets going in a direction it gets insane Landy can I bring this
back to Bitcoin I just have a point right like Bitcoin what's Bitcoin I'm
not familiar with this never heard of it but i just want
everyone to remember every single person here needs to remember bitcoin is the first
meme coin it only exists because of people in forums pushing this
so if you want a meme economy it's gonna happen if you make it happen
right it's gonna happen if you make it happen right it's gonna happen if you make it happen
by pushing the message and making it desirable above and beyond the system that people are
stuck inside of right so like all the conversations about the next meme coin cycle like
stop looking for like last time to happen again open your fucking minds and like push into a new fucking direction where
like you create the fucking reality that you want the same way as the fucking nerds that all of you
would have probably fucking laughed at 99 you would have laughed at and said you're fucking
idiots when they fucking launched bitcoin and we're talking about it in forums, you all would have fucking laughed. And here we are, $100,000 and nothing happened except a bunch of people believed in it and
fucking memed in it.
I have to push back a little bit on the Bitcoin as a meme coin.
One of the reasons why I categorize that differently with any proof of work.
It's an analogy though, Landy.
I understand the technicals behind it, but I'm just saying like it only succeeded due consensus of people that believe.
It did, but it was a combination, right? Because Bitcoin was a vector for value of electricity at that point and still is to a very large degree.
I totally agree. I just think it's set a precedent where now people can create these realities yes i don't know
if it's going to be fartcoin but i think there's value in like legitimate main coins and like i
mean it's up to the market to decide right andrew's lady tell you andrew's going to argue
that fartcoin is the new bitcoin that's what he keeps messaging me over and over again and you
know i just tell him like look okay it's uh is it on a proof of work network or a proof of stake
network what is it what is its real underlying value at the end of the day and its underlying value is
memetics it's the memetic sorcery that i have had to learn about by sitting in these rooms because
as a bitcoiner the very first time that i ever saw meme coins and this is the you got to remember
how old is it is it memetics or is it the first billion
dollar ticker no no it was memetics because the first time when when doge was released you got
to remember doge is also kind of proof of work right but doge has some real tech though and some
real history right but it was still it was it was considered a um it was considered a vampire meme
on a different network, right?
And the very first thing that I did when I saw it was scoff at it while I was buying it.
The reason why I was able to be successful in memes isn't because I necessarily understood them, but I understood opportunity.
stuff and go and buy this other stuff, even though I was at the time a 100% fully eyes glazed over
Bitcoin maxi that hated everyone and everything that had to do with anything else other than
Bitcoin. But I understood that if I looked at everything as a vampire attack, and if everyone
else is going to go and vampire attack it, I know how to trade this. And then slowly, I started to
look around me and understand what was actually happening. And when Doge really started to catch on from a mimetic standpoint, and I like the mimetic sorcery, as soon as I've heard Sikasa explain that, I was like, you know what, that makes sense.
Because people latched onto it. I couldn't understand why people latched onto it because
I didn't understand what was happening in culture. And once I understood what was happening in
culture, I got it. And I was like, you know what? The more stuff that comes up like this,
I'm on board and I'm going to give it a shot. And now I understand that across the different markets.
And I do the same thing like David does. You go and you look at the
holder count. Is it strong? I'm not a new pair kind of guy unless somebody is calling it out
on the timeline or I see it just really just being ravenous about getting new holders.
And then I'm like, okay, there's got to be something here. Either they're fake wallets, right? Or it's real. Does it have real memeability on the timeline? And then there's obviously a ton of tickers. And then to when Sikasa was on stage and was talking about this.
I 100% agree with him.
That's why I don't sell out of my memes.
I will take profits.
I'll scale.
I'll provide liquidity.
I'll do single-sided.
I'll do, you know, both the pair.
And I will make sure that I'm getting as much of a particular meme as I possibly can.
And I am going to take profits on it.
But that means if I really care about it, i am going to take profits on it but that
means if i really care about it i'm going to be back in buying on those dips because i want more
of that for the longer term play because i do feel like there is memes true memes that are going to
stand the test of time and doge is a good example of that and that's what you want though right a good example of that
what's that i said but like it's more difficult to find a meme that's uh gonna stand the time
for sure like you could have a project listen yeah i've lost my project my project is wrecked
and that shit was 3.5 billion last cycle so it's like there is gonna be something no one expects
that comes in the next month two or three that goes to like multiple
billions that is going to blindside everyone i agree with that i agree with that it's a monger
yeah it's not a big comment for sure there'll be more runners that's for sure i think you know
it's just quite good at these previously it used to be quite easy. It was Bitcoin and the rest.
Like you weren't going to hold anything through a bear market.
And that's still held up pretty true.
Like, I mean, you could have held, look at Atom, ETH.
But now I think, you know, we obviously I'm still in the camp of like, I hope not to sell any of my Bitcoin.
I don't want to hold anything through a bear,
but at least buy it back
because we are into multi-cycle tokens.
And that's the point CKASA was making as well.
He's got like long-term vision.
But to Andrew's point,
like, oh, you could just sell your bitcoin and buy more back but
i've never said sell your bitcoin i would never sell your book i said that i wouldn't purchase
bitcoin right now right like for me i would rather take that money and use in the trenches that's
only because i got bitcoin like around 25 000 so like it's a valid point because i've also been
there yeah you want to sell the top because you'll buy more back lower which is a like a good strategy like maybe not all your bitcoin but some of it
because the the dip's gonna happen you know what it is hold on if we hit super cycle mode
or maybe it's only a 30 dip but you waiting you're waiting for 70, you're basically fucked.
Here's the gamble that you're taking on, though, with that Bitcoin situation.
You could do that previous cycles.
Now, listen, it might happen this cycle where Bitcoin does do a good pullback,
and you have that money that you scaled out of
in terms of you know the memes and all that other right and you can go purchase bitcoin
but who's to say that bitcoin doesn't continue to just go up just like gold did obviously we spoke
about this so many times the same way that gold you know the same way that gold did after its etf
you know approval and just
continues to go up and up and up and up and up so like it's a tricky play man that that's why the
markets are tricky i i would i would say that you know you should have bitcoin um you should try to
acquire as much bitcoin as possible but you know to some people you know what it is to some people when they look
at it and when you say buy bitcoin right they're like okay great i know what bitcoin's worth but
i'm gonna make so much money here that like i really don't care about bitcoin because i've
never seen this amount of money in my entire life so there's a lot of like a lot of people have a
lot of different thoughts until they actually believe
in what bitcoin does they won't ever take bitcoin seriously but that that starts with us like that
starts in these type of like spaces these type of rooms that continuously talk about strategies and
and break down you know break down this ecosystem in layman's terms
for people to understand.
That's all.
But that's a tricky one, man.
I don't know.
Who bought Bitcoin over 100K up here?
I don't think anyone bought Bitcoin over 100K up here.
How do you know?
I bought Bitcoin all the way from $500 to $110K
because I don't fucking sell it.
I just keep buying it.
And I do want to say something.
If you guys needed a symbol to
understand that dollar cost averaging is probably one of the best ways to move forward with a long
term hold like bitcoin you know the whole stock market crashed like a week or two ago everyone
was talking about that being like the fourth or fifth recession most like millennials and gen z's
have gone through in their life and that was a absolute
buying opportunity and then two days following the crash 5.5 trillion dollars were added to the
stock market that money trickles through all of these different economies right so that money
doesn't just stay in the stock market that money starts moving around and personally i've heard
from everybody why you shouldn't buy Bitcoin. I've
heard it from a brother who has been in the tech space for a long time. And his argument was,
it's an out of date system. No one's going to use it. No one wants to use it for real estate
or supply chain logistics, this, that, and the third. But now look at all these big
companies investing in it and telling their people that are high up in their
companies to diversify into it before they get retail into it it's just a numbers game man just
keep buying it don't sell it well i want to take this time because it's uh two minutes so obviously
two uh 12 30 i want to take this time and thank everybody who joined the conversation today.
We will be back.
I took an hour.
I'm an hour late because I wanted to enjoy the sun, so I don't give a fuck.
But we will be back at 930 a.m. Eastern Standard Time tomorrow.
Knowledgeable motherfuckers. follow everybody that was up here
okay you had an opportunity and a chance to follow everybody again you don't have to agree
with everybody's assessment about the markets but you can note it down and then at the end of the
day this is what i do i'm telling you exactly how i roll i have two ears and one mouth. I will sit back as I'm working out even today,
listening to fucking people talk. If I miss something, I'm going to replay this room and
jot it down. And at the end of the night, I'll throw that shit into an AI fucking platform
and see what I can come up with and see what I can research to see if somebody was onto something.
research to see if somebody was onto something like you have these fucking tools ai is an assistant
you can it's like having you guys have have been lonely for a very long time okay you haven't ever
touched the girls you know anything okay so like you might as well use this ai fucking tool not to
create your fucking post because we know that you just didn't graduate from harvard okay we heard you speak
before we take that asset put all that shit in from today's fucking conversations and see if you
have the right game plan that's it you'll be able to live better no seriously and if you want to play
in the trenches play in the trenches andrew does okay he puts on a fucking mask. Fucking, he fucking darkens his fucking room.
He's in a dark room.
And he's on his computer staring for the next fucking pair.
Okay?
Like, you could do that also.
If you got the time to do that, do it.
Nobody should be telling you what the fuck you should be doing with your money.
Nobody should ever fucking self-shame you.
That if you ever fucking touch something
you're a bad person that fuck everybody this is about you changing your fucking life and your
family's life you do everything possible legally to do that okay every single one of you
motherfuckers can make millions of dollars if you choose to do so. I'm being serious. I think the opportunity for everybody here to make millions of dollars is here for you. It's
really up to you to see if you have that determination and that drive to get that.
That's really it. You think people who are millionaires out here are smarter than you?
Most of them are not. They have the will. They will themselves. They've sat in rooms. They've listened and they front run your positions
or the positions that are being talked about. And they get out. They're the first ones to get out
at a certain point and they don't go trying to catch the motherfucking top. Anyway, thank you
very much. You know the shows.
You know the shows that are on. You can go ahead
and tune into them, okay?
You can tune into all these shows.
Fuck, let me break them down real quick.
Fuck. I'm tired.
You know what? You know the shows. Go replay.
Go look at the G Media fucking account.
I got a list of all the fucking shows that are on.
Shout out to everybody that participates love you motherfuckers and on that note bobo is gonna make
you fucking cry okay and i'm not talking about it going down to zero bobo's gonna make you
fucking cry you're gonna live with fucking massive regrets and i am here for it and i hope you clip
this up because i'm going to be a petty son of a bitch when that shit fucking happens
It's not be for just billions is billions and bobo billions. It is
