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cryptopulse: bitcoin, crypto, stocks, AI, news, college is a scam
Recorded: March 21, 2025 Duration: 1:17:49Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the intertwining of traditional finance and cryptocurrency, highlighting trends such as the impact of political announcements on market volatility, the rise of Binance projects, and the potential for blockchain technology to transform healthcare. The conversation also touched on the evolving education landscape and its implications for future generations in the crypto space.
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Twice in one day. It's over.
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That's 1-800-RUGS-R-US.
And I never know
like sometimes it'll be on wi-fi
and I'm like oh I gotta get on data. And then sometimes I'm on
data and it rugs. I'm like oh I guess I should have been on wi-fi.
And I have no answers., I got to get on data. And then sometimes I'm on data and it rugs. I'm like, oh, I guess I should have been on Wi-Fi. And I have no answers.
So today I just got murdered.
So RIP is one of those things too.
It's like when you make a mistake
and you just want to throw in a towel
for like the rest of your life.
That's how I'm feeling right now.
But good thing I have some good company up here.
And I'm curious on some of the things you've been thinking
about in the last couple of days,
if you're in the markets or I know that, well,
this is maybe not as focused on you
because it was more related to crypto,
but Trump went up there, did some talking.
There's been some announcements of announcements
that might be coming today.
There's people saying that that was not all he had to say,
that he's got more coming,
but I'm curious how it's affected the normal stock market
or how the stock market has affected the crypto world.
Well, right now, Trump is talking about all kinds of stuff.
Do you have, so I don't know where to start on this, to be 100% honest.
So since we last spoke, we had the Fed meeting, right?
Jerome Powell, it went about how I think most of us on here kind of predicted, just didn't
get a whole lot of nothing.
They hid behind the data.
Powell was decently chipper, but he also mentioned some slightly concerning things.
So here we are.
We haven't gone anywhere, really.
If you look at the last, just across the market, look at the last nine trading days, which basically goes back
to the Monday before last, the opening of that week, we came down really hard. And then
since then, we've been trading at that same range. Really, we haven't really gone anywhere
in two weeks of trading. But yeah, it's I don't think anything's changed. I think the
big date today is a triple witching or quad witching.
Honestly, maybe this is the question for, uh, for the crowd here today.
Triple witching.
You have weekly, monthly and quarterly options, $4.5 trillion in the stock
market is basically expiring today.
So what happens is they roll those positions out.
They reposition themselves going forward.
So you get really choppy, bad price action today.
Erratic is always a term that I use for this.
Now it could, I guess, be considered quadwitching again,
which hasn't been a thing for the last five years or so,
because we have, I guess crypto options
are expiring as well.
So, right, I guess maybe it is technically triple which or quad which again,
instead of triple whiching.
But either way, erratic price action we get through today.
Maybe we get a little bit cleaner movement the next couple of weeks.
But really, the biggest problem right here is the uncertainty still right
with the tariffs and everything going on.
That's that is the biggest issue in the market,
there's uncertainty, market hates uncertainty.
April 2nd is like D-Day for the tariff stuff, right?
So until that really happens,
I just don't really think we go a whole lot of anywhere,
if I'm being 100% honest.
That's just kind of my thought on it.
And then like crypto itself, I actually shorted Bitcoin as you know, Cade.
Sorry to all of my friends here, but I just had to do it.
I want to absolutely ape into this thing if we see a 7271 on the front of the price.
Maybe that pains some people.
I'm very sorry, but that's just my technical analysis.
Send all your hate mail to wolfweb3. That's Cade.
Oh, it's coming.
Send all your hate mail over there.
It's coming.
Let me kick it over to Laytree.
Laytree, I'm sure you've got some thoughts
from the last day or so of everything going on.
Anything EMP said as well?
Hey, thank you for having me up here.
But yeah, I agree with Amp.
Markets can be pretty choppy during those days
when you have options expiring and some other major news,
or we are expecting something and then we
have all these really high expectations around,
you know, Trump is going to make sure that we
don't have to pay any taxes, no long-term gains and know this and know that.
And then of course those hopes are slashed
and then markets react accordingly.
So the last few days what I'm looking at
and I've been also discussing it a little bit
in my community is the way that Binance projects
are basically playing out, right?
BNB chain was big during the last bull market.
And going into this bull market,
a lot of sentiments were kind of reversed
in favor of Solana and Ethereum for the most part, right?
Everybody is going to those chains
and people are not, they were not looking at BNB chain
and BNB chain was in a consolidation
for a very long time, BNB token itself.
And so that was really the opportunity.
And I did kind of point it out to the communities
over and over again that, hey, BNB is going to have its run.
Like PancakeSwap and Uniswap is what everybody uses.
And of course, Radium, but BNB and PancakeSwap,
they are a big part of crypto.
And crypto communities love BNB chain.
So at some point, there will be a lot of volume. a big part of crypto and crypto communities love BNB chain.
So at some point, there will be a lot of volume.
So we are starting to see more volume kicking in into BNB chain.
One narrative that is playing out right now that's major is BNB, it's kind of funny.
They had actually a project called Test test token, which was Binance listed
because it was like created as a test by a Binance developer.
And they had a similar token called tutorial,
so I missed a test token.
And I'm somebody who, if I miss an opportunity,
it's not a big deal.
Like I'm not gonna try and foe my Intuit
and get a late entry, right?
I'm gonna be just moving on and find another project.
And so I got into tutorial, which I also sent out the alpha around that on one of the spaces here,
and then also in my community.
And that actually did extremely well.
It's now part of Binance alpha, so it's probably going to get a Binance listing as well.
But upwards of 20x anywhere, depending on when you entered,
20 to 50x were returns for the
community members there.
And then I'm seeing a lot more other projects that are coming out that are similar.
One was recently Binance Academy token, which is funny because somebody at Binance Academy
created a token during a tutorial.
So then somebody launched it on 4.me and basically brought it to life. Then there was a Binance GitHub has a token called Demo,
and that was also created by Binance team on the test net,
and then somebody actually launched it on the main net to 4.me.
So it's like, all right, these are plays that are super risky.
So you can't really just put in tens of thousands of dollars in it.
But if you are
into good quality memes or you know maybe want to diversify a little bit into some of the newer memes
with the understanding that it could go to zero because there is really it's almost like gambling
so you have to be cautious but a little bit safer bets than you know just blindly aping into meme
coins every single day so I got into some of those and I did send out the alpha on
it as well in the Dejan section of my community and so those projects seem to be doing well.
Everybody should have already taken their initials out on them so there's no risk,
but those are some of the plays but I'm seeing a lot more volume coming in and I think one thing
that CZ and really Binance exchange what they're really focusing on is community aspect.
They've recently started voting for delisting and listing
of projects.
And that's going to be all voted by the community.
So I'm seeing a lot more effort around the community
side of things.
And they're listing these tokens that don't really
have much of a utility.
Like TST token did not really have a utility type to it.
And so they're just going off of the community and who makes the most noise.
So it's worth kind of looking at sentimental analysis more so than anything else if you're
playing those projects.
So yeah, that's something that I wanted to throw it out there.
Also MoCover is doing pretty incredible.
That's one of my top picks for this bull run.
It's still at a very nice price point,
but they did add, I don't know if they're still there,
but it was actually added to the top 200 coins.
I don't know what their current rating is as of today,
but I did see it a couple of days ago
and it was within the top 200.
So it seems like they could be a major player
for this bull run.
And then NFTs,
of course, lots of NFTs I'm looking at. But yeah, that's, I just, I love when there are
retracements in the market because they create a lot of opportunities for us to kind of DCA.
Very nice. Very nice. Let me hit BK. BK, what's going on with you, man? What kind of things are you paying attention to in crypto land?
Absolutely nothing.
I'm writing proposals all day, every day.
I'm actually writing one right now.
As Lady Trader was speaking here, Yeah, I am, I dip in and out. I'm
really interested in the wearable devices space and you know like holodeck type
stuff that I see in the market not necessarily crypto related. I think there's going to be, you know, the, there was another, oh, Tony
Stark. That's, that's the one everybody knows. Cause I always think of minority report, you
know, but that type of technology where it's in front of you in the air, you know what
I mean? And you manipulate like this, the, the, whatever you're doing that's in the air, like how Tony Stark would take something and then toss it in the garbage.
You know what I mean? Like, I'm really, really interested in that type of tech.
And, and Sony, I mean, this is, I'm kind of derailing a little bit here, but I'm really, really excited.
Sony has this immersible video game technology.
I don't know if anyone's seen that yet.
It's absolutely insane.
It's not, you're not wearing anything.
And it's like you're standing in the game
and fighting these zombies that are running at you.
And it's like screens like all around you.
It's like totally immersible,
like video game technology.
It looks insanely cool.
Yeah, the future of gaming is gonna be pretty lit, actually.
I'm looking forward, I'm not a big gamer,
but certainly there's more tech comes out.
I mean, dude, I saw Nvidia, actually,
Em, did you see all this stuff from Nvidia?
Like in there, I'm sure you did,
but they've got this little WALL-E robot walking around, which I'm sure is just the tip of the iceberg
from things they've actually got being built.
But dude, that was like, that's kind of cool to see.
These machines and robots are really coming along.
I don't know what life is going to look like in a few years.
Yeah, it's definitely going to be wild.
It's exciting times, right?
So you always wonder, you have to tamper your expectations.
What's the timeline on some of this stuff
to actually make it out?
I mean, we've seen the same thing around with with Tesla, right?
But it is super, super cool.
So like I love watching when they have these conferences.
So like you don't really want to trade the name usually around these conferences
because things will just get whippy back and forth.
But I love to just like turn the turn the chart off of
the video for a little bit and turn on Jensen. I mean, I want to hear the guy
speak. And he's one of the, you know, most important innovators right now, I
think in the world. And so seeing all this cool stuff that they're developing,
what's coming, I love it. I'm a techie type of guy. So I love seeing all the
new the new concept things and then the things that are actually getting close to maybe being in production.
Hey, dude, did you see, I think it's Boston dynamics, that robot that was like
break dancing and like doing jujitsu moves, like all flexible and stuff.
Like following that girl around or whatever.
I saw a dance video with one behind a girl like doing a TikTok dance oh no no no this one was
like it was insane dude it did like a handstand and then went over and like
just landed on its feet and like it's it's really really smooth moving robot
like I think on the post it says
I think this was on LinkedIn actually and on the post it was like throw
Throw skin, you know clothes and a hat on this thing and it moves like just like a human does it was insane
If you find that pin that up in the nest, I'd love to take a look at that
Yeah, I think it was on on LinkedIn. I'll
I'll try and find it. I think I might have sent it to Eastern. So yeah, I'll check. I'll check for it.
Don't tell me Kate's rubbing this again.
There he is.
So okay, I was nervous.
Oh wait, can you hear me?
I can now.
Yeah, I can now.
Okay, thank God.
It's like I'm gonna have to rush to close the space and bring it back up.
It's tropic.
I was like, you're gonna have these robots rolling around your house or not.
Hey, I have to say this very quickly.
I don't know if you guys are keeping an eye on what's going on right now.
US just lifted ban against Tornado Cash.
So no ban and no sanctions against them anymore.
Not too shabby.
I think that's pretty cool.
There's a lot of people that were
afraid to build anything like that or tapping anything in like that.
I spoke to a couple of teams that were.
Trying to build an alternative to that to compete at the time, and then once that ban happened,
they kind of scrapped the idea because they thought they were going to go to jail, so that's kind of cool.
Is front end UI still banned? I mean, there's no way to access it still other than just going on chain, right?
There's no front-end UI.
Truthfully, I've never used it. I don't know if anybody else has ever used it. I just know of it.
So I don't have resources like that that needs to be obfuscated or whatever the word is in hidden.
But going back to the question that was asked before,
would I have one of these robots walking around?
I was always creeped out by them personally.
But I think probably as I age or everyone kind of forgot
about the Asimo one, which was on the Asimo robot.
When I was in school, that was like,
they've been working on these things
since like the 60s, right? You just look up Honda Asimo robot when I was in school that was like they've been working on these things since like the 60s right you just look up Honda Asimo
there's a huge timeline you can see comes all the way from like the 60s they
look like refrigerators and I was like oh yeah that'd be cool to have like
elderly people when my you know mothers like really retired and I have to go out
on the road or something have that thing around but then after the Will Smith I
robot movie came out kind of creeped me out. But yeah, one thing I will respond to that really quick
with with Lady Trader, she had mentioned BNB, right? BNB is like the ecosystem that I kind
of look at. I know I'm all over the place just responding to everything right now. One
of the ecosystems that I do follow quite closely because I'm part of this DAO called CaribDAO,
which is like educational crypto DAO in the Caribbean, just all over the islands and such.
And we were trying to get people into Bitcoin, but then of course asking
Caribbean's when you do the exchange rate, it gets really just crazy. So they
created this basically test educational token on BNB.
So because of that, it's pegged to BNB.
We always look at it and follow it
and PancakeSwap is the main swap that we use.
So that's really cool that you brought that up.
So yeah, just throw that out there really quick.
That ecosystem is definitely coming on
and it's not fading away.
No, I see you unmuted. You have any thoughts on that?
Oh shit, I did not know I'm unmuted.
Thoughts on what?
Sorry I I wasn't paying attention.
All good, all good.
It was, you know, well actually my original thing was was on the robots,
but then the topic went in two different directions,
but you don't have to respond anything.
Oh yeah, so here's here's what's funny. was on the robots, but then the topic went in two different directions, but you don't have to respond to anything. Oh, yeah.
So here's what's funny.
My girlfriend and I are still, you know, we're about to move in together this year and we're
talking about if we were to stay together, we have kids, yada, yada, yada, and talking
about colleges and stuff.
And I told her that if you thought the last 20 years was crazy in terms of change,
in terms of paradigm shifting, innovations and tech, then the next 20 years,
you can't even wrap your mind around it.
My thesis is that the higher education system that we currently have, the university four-year
model, I think it's going to, it's not going to completely die, but it's, you're going
to see a lot of colleges close their doors for the last time, right?
I just don't, I don't see how parents are going gonna be okay with their kids going to this four year
program where most don't actually learn any real any useful like real-world
skills right you can you can you can go and maybe do like finance or do some
well I guess even finance you're gonna have AI agents and you're gonna have AI tools
and you're gonna live in a world where these things
can teach you better than any human being could.
And the amount of money, the only thing I'd say is not great
or that needs to be maintained is kind of the social aspect
of students, young students
being able to interact with each other and live in a haven and all that stuff.
But I just don't see how the university model that we have today lasts.
It's broken, it's extractive, it's predatory.
I'm obviously generalizing, right?
My girlfriend's a doctor, so she benefited from the system.
But me, for example, I got an economics degree from a pretty good university.
And I know more about economics from just getting into Bitcoin than I learned about
in my four-year degree.
So I think a lot of these degrees and a lot of the information that people are learning
is useless and they get out into the real world
and they're buried in debt
and you can't default on your student loans.
So it's basically indentured servitude.
And I just, yeah, I think that
tying it back to the robotics thing,
we're probably gonna see a lot of what was depicted in shows like
the Jetsons, maybe not to that degree, but a lot of that come to fruition.
Little robots that do things around the house for you, AI agents that complete tasks for
you.
It's going to be a different world.
I think a lot of people aren't ready or just can't really imagine.
Right, 20 years ago was what, 2005? 30 years ago, let's just do 30 years ago. 30 years ago I was
five years old. I remember life without the internet. I remember life when there were no
cell phones. I mean I know there were cell phones in the 90s, but not at like mass scale. I remember being bored. Like I remember sitting on a planet being so
fucking bored. I had to use a Game Boy or something. But I played with my Game Boy or something. But
so to think about how much the world has changed in the last 30 years and just knowing that the
years and just knowing that the rate of change is exponential, the next 30 years, I think
the next 15 years will probably be like the last 30 years, maybe the last 10 years. I
don't know. I don't know what the rate is. But the next 30 years, it is going to be night
and day. You won't recognize the world we live in.
Yeah, what you think, Entropic? Yeah, I was going to respond to that really quick.
I think even though the sentiments for college might shift, I think the thing that's keeping
the whole scam going more than anything, and it's not just in the US, it's creeping globally,
is student loans.
As long as the banks are willing to loan for it and pushing that as
a good investment, it's going to keep pushing people towards a culture. Because I thought
it would have phased out with millennials. Now that we're having the ones that started
young are having kids that are going to college. And I'm shocked to see a lot of my friends
that are pushing the same narrative that was on us, when the ones that are the
first ones out the gate actually didn't finish college. I was like, that's really funny that
they have blue collar jobs and what have you, and they're making money hand over fist, yet
they're pushing the whole college narrative on them. And it's the whole lone thing. But
anyways, as someone who literally I saw the whole education system was broken since
I was in high school because I could sleep my way to the merit roll. And it's like, you know, I,
when I came home with the yearbook, most likely to sleep through graduation, my mother's like,
is this what you're going to school for? I was like, no, I go to school to play football. I won't
lie. Like, it means school is a complete joke. And my mother was like so disappointed in me. And I
go to college and it was the same exact thing.
I could sleep my way to good school, good grades.
And it's like, once you figure out how to play the game,
but anyways, so I totally agree with you,
but as long as loans are there and they're easy to get
and it's like international, okay, if the US says,
you know what, we can teach our kids this stuff
and we won't, then they'll just open up the floodgates and students from all over the world that know that if
they get their education in the US, it's more universal than getting it in one specific
country.
They're just going to take the loans and then go there anyway.
So until that loan pipeline stops, the Ponzi is going to keep going.
Yeah, it's a good point.
But sorry, Lady Trader had her hand up.
Let's go to her and then I'll circle back.
Hey, this discussion just brought back so many old memories.
So I think the system is here that actually does benefit certain people.
It does.
Most people do not benefit from it, but this is how the system is set up.
So going back years and years and years ago, when I got into the university,
I actually earned a full scholarship to attend the university. I had really awesome grades
in high school. So when I got into the college, you know, I was actually on a student visa.
And so with the student visas, you can't do certain things. You can't qualify for all of
the scholarships that you would qualify if you were a citizen. And so for me, that was a big hurdle because it's like, all right, yes, I earned a scholarship,
but I can't make more money in scholarships because if that was available to me, then I
don't even know I'd be a money making machine. I did have somebody in my class who actually got,
who was a US citizen. He earned a lot of scholarships every time. And he actually,
the US citizen, he earned a lot of scholarships every time.
And he actually, not only did he take all of the scholarships
that he won, but he also maximized all of the student
loans, which I thought was really stupid back then.
But man, this guy, when he graduated,
he had a huge stock portfolio.
He paid off his debt right away, and then he moved on.
But from my side, I actually graduated debt free,
thankfully.
My husband, he was the same way,
he graduated debt-free as well.
But it was actually, the system does reward you
when you're a good student.
But one thing I did notice, like when I first started,
I was a freshman in college, got into a math class.
And when I got the books, I was like, oh my God,
this is something I've already done
in like fourth grade back home.
So why am I repeating all of these things?
So I actually had to go back and test out of it.
And I, you know, I talked to the Dean of that department
and I said, I've already done all of this work
in fourth grade.
And so they said, oh, okay, you can go and, you know
just go through a test and we'll just give you credit for it.
So I went ahead and I just, you know
did that test and I passed and they said, all right
now you can go to the next grade.
Well, the next class,
the next level was again, it was so easy.
I'm like, well, I've already done this one.
So they then again, like after I
found back so much, they let me take another test.
Then I went to the third one and they said,
no more, we can't let you pass this one.
Like you got to, you got to attend this one.
It's mandatory. And so I had to still push for it,
but they wouldn't let me.
But the first week I was actually done
with the entire syllabus.
I sent it to my teacher and she said,
yeah, just show up for your midterms
and show up for your finals and you're good to go.
And so I think the system is there.
It rewards you if you are a really awesome student
and it rewards you if you are a US citizen.
There's really no excuse if you are getting into debt
and it's gonna sounds a little bit harsh, but I'm gonna say it. If you are a US citizen, there's really no excuse if you are getting into debt. And I'm, you know, it's kind of sounds a little bit harsh, but I'm going to say it.
If you are a really awesome student, you will not acquire debt.
There are ways to go around it.
But again, I'm not of the opinion that the four year school is mandatory
or it should be mandatory.
I think there are so many ways where people can make a lot of money.
It does add a little bit of value, right?
It does.
I think it added a ton of value to me, myself, and what I was able to accomplish
because I was working at a top hedge fund
right out of college, all of these things.
And so I think it opened up a lot of gates for me,
but I would have still done better.
I think it wouldn't have mattered.
Maybe I would have gotten there a little bit later,
but at the end of the day, it's up to you.
end of the day, it's up to you.
So those are just my takes on it.
So those are just my takes on it.
It just brought back so many memories.
It just brought back so many memories.
Yeah, so, I mean, this is a really interesting bit
of information that Lady Trader just shared,
because I also took advantage of scholarships.
Basically, my last two years of university were free and I was
able to do an abroad program my last semester where we went. It's called
semester C. I don't know if you guys have heard of it but it was all paid for and
if you are, I mean I want to keep my own horn, but if you're like relatively
clever and you know how to use the system to your advantage,
then yeah, it's a great experience.
I mean, I left college with no debt either and most of it was paid for and I went in
state.
So it's awesome.
I think that we are exceptional people like Lady Trader and people like her friends and
people, my girlfriend, there are exceptions to the rule, right?
There are people who know how to game the system
because the system is already gaming you.
You might as well game the system instead.
But I think that's a vast minority.
Most people I know around me, and it's not,
I don't wanna, you know, at the end of the day,
you are responsible for your own decisions. So I, you know, at the end of the day, you are responsible for your own decisions.
So I, you know, if you want to go out of state to some party school or you like the football
team in Alabama, but you live in Virginia, and you want to just go down to Alabama and
pay whatever 40 grand a year, that's a stupid decision, in my opinion, right?
Unless you're going to do something very specific and you have a plan.
But most of the people I know are still paying off their student debts.
And I know folks that didn't go to college that have higher paying jobs than those folks.
So while I think that there are outliers that do benefit from the system. To be honest, I'm jealous of guys like Cade and Sam from Wolf Financial who were in their
early 20s.
I wish this was a thing when I was in my early 20s.
I was trying to figure out what the hell I really enjoyed, even after college, even with
a pretty
good degree, doing different jobs and stuff.
But if crypto was the thing when I was like 18, 19, and I got into it the way that I got
into it in like 2018, 2019, I would have never gone to college.
Fuck that.
Or maybe I would have.
Maybe I would have gotten some fun degree and like been around young people.
I don't know. But again, I'd be going there to socialize and you know, have I still think it's
important to have that experience of being around young like-minded people
and being in this haven, this educational haven.
I still love higher education.
I think learning how to read and write.
I know it seems simple, but a lot of people are not strong in either of them.
Learning how to read and write is extremely important.
I got very good at both of those in college.
I wasn't that great at reading until I got to college because I was forced to read.
But I think the university model, generally speaking, is broken.
And I think that it's gonna, a lot of it's gonna be replaced,
a lot of it's gonna be replaced by the innovations
we're gonna see coming out in the next 10 years.
And maybe it'll be supplemented,
but I think now more than ever,
you don't need to go to college to be successful.
In fact, some of the most successful people I know
didn't even go to college or dropped out.
Lady Trader?
Yeah, I just wanted to add that, you know, one more thing that people do, you already mentioned this a little bit,
but going into college debt are really, really expensive.
I mean, you could literally go to like a small town and you'll have a beautiful life.
There's not gonna be, you know, there's not gonna be parties and all of that, of course.
But, you know, I was not like a person who would go to parties anyway.
For me, it was studying and that was my job.
So I would study.
But if you are a U.S. citizen, you're not on a student visa.
You are like you have so much flexibility.
You can go to a smaller, you know, community college.
You could you don't have to take the entire, you know, the 12 credits
or whatever the full time is nowadays.
Back then, it was 12. You had to take 12 credit hours.
You cannot work more than 20 hours a week.
You can only work on campus.
But the US citizens don't have all of those things.
Like there is no excuse.
US citizens can go and work off campus.
They could have a business, do whatever they need to do.
They don't have to be student full time.
They can live wherever they want.
They don't have to pay expenses of the dorm necessarily.
They could live off campus.
Lots of freedom that I saw that US citizens had.
And that made me like, you know, sometimes I would be,
I would see these people complaining about it
and I'd be like, my God, like I wish that was my life
because that would have made things so much easier for me.
And so I think it just depends on, you know,
look at what the students, you know,
who come here on a student visa have to go through.
And then, but yeah, I agree with you.
Like you don't necessarily have to go through college nowadays.
Back then, I think it was a much bigger deal.
But also nowadays, I mean, you talk to the kids, like my daughter, the other day, she was editing a video for YouTube.
She's like, mama, I'm going to put this video on YouTube.
And I'm like, oh my God, like, where did the time go when the kids wanted to be doctors?
And, you know, these things is like, okay, she's already working on some YouTube video
and I'm like, that's incredible.
She's pretty smart and you know,
she wants to get into science and all of that.
But again, at the end of the day,
a lot of kids are talking about how they can make content,
how can they become content creators?
How could they, you know, trade stocks?
Like she's interested in crypto,
she's interested in NFTs
and she wants to have her own NFT collection.
So nowadays kids are really smart and they want to use technology to their advantage.
And I think we are living in an era where college is optional.
I don't think it's a scam.
I think you could really benefit from it if you know how to.
But again, it's not unnecessary.
What can I say?
I'll just say really quick, I'll just add on something.
All right. So you probably can't tell just, you know, based on my accent, whatever, when
I actually I went through college as an international student. So I relate a lot to that. And the
sales pitch that was used for me to actually come back to Jamaica, literally, was we're
sitting at the graduation, my father was like, what's that person doing? What's that person doing?
I was like, I don't know.
He starts to point to all the international students.
And we had a huge Chinese delegation
that went to school with all the business guys
that were in the business school.
And they're all going back to China.
They're international students.
So he was like, okay,
you're American friends that are here.
I was like, okay, how'd they get through school?
And all these, most of my friends had loans and so forth. So here I am, technically an international
student, right? And he was like, well, they're all going back to school, you're debt free,
what are you going to do with the rest of your life? And that was the recruitment pitch
to come back to Jamaica, right? So long story short, yes, I understand all that stuff. And
I did go through like all the hard way, like in the sense that I did not have
like all of the whatever like that was opened up to me. But at
the same time, I knew how to work the system. I clipped out
of a whole bunch of things he figured out. I was like, well,
even if I don't study for Cleps, I just take a whole bunch of
Cleps, I can get out of classes, I was an RA, I was playing on
the football team, all these different things, right? So it
worked out. So yes, there's ways to get it.
And the main reason why I went to college, I won't lie, is so I could play football.
That was it.
Because I saw it was completely pointless.
My father is a person that he left school at nine years old and had to start working
then.
And he's by far the most successful person that I know.
And I looked at that not saying that everyone can do that, because he's an exception. I was like, well, if he could do it, I know it's
possible. Therefore, anyone that's depending on just college to be successful is absolutely
crazy. But at the same time, I understand it serves this purpose for other people. But
yeah, if I was crypto was around back then and all that stuff, it would have been a great
option. But to be honest, the model of it, and I told everyone this going into
it, including like, if you read my papers and everything, I
never thought I was going to finish college, in the sense
that the entire time I was there, I was starting businesses
failing, bankrupting, I just knew I was gonna be like Michael
Dell and all those guys that got their billion dollar idea before
they finished. And I just had the plan. I
know that sounds nuts. I wanted to leave school with the company that I started
while I was just playing football and having fun in college but it was never
about school whatsoever. That was never the plan. Obviously didn't work out and I
did graduate but I've never used my degree ever because I've always worked,
I've always done different projects and all those things. Do I regret going to college? No, I played football. So I got my
goal accomplished. So yeah, with that said, I know we kind of went way off the rails,
but this was a fun conversation. I won't lie. I really enjoyed it.
Asset mental.
Hey guys, uninvited guest here. But I've been part of your spaces recently and amazing
spaces overall.
So thank you for having me here again.
I think this topic is very close to my heart.
College maybe back in the day gave us information that we could use to catapult ourselves professionally.
But right now, information is democratized, right?
There's the Internet.
So one does not really require college to get somewhere in life.
But on the hindsight, if you go to see an Ivy League,
you're not paying for the college itself.
I feel like you're paying for the network so that you
can build the next Facebook or the next OpenAI, right? So I would say that the students choosing
college as a way to further their profession or earn a buck or two or make a difference.
There are other ways right now and college is not the only way. So I super recommend
people to use the internet and not be complacent because we are all on essentially the same
starting ground in this in the sense that information is available to everyone. You can
become a scientist or whatever your heart desires, right? So I definitely agree, but you know the other thing,
I come from India, right?
And we have a big network of IITs
where people like Sundar Pichai,
I don't know if Sundar Pichai,
but the top CEOs in the US, right?
Who come out of, the people who come out of IIT
go into like being the top CEOs in US and India, etc.
So college in that sense, it also teaches you work ethic.
So a quality college teaches you work ethic, but that can be learned on your own.
So you don't essentially need a college.
What you're paying for is the network.
So those are my two cents.
I completely agree with you.
The work ethic that I learned at university, I didn't have prior to that.
And I'm not saying all of it, right?
I never meant to insinuate,
yeah, that all of it's bad.
The work ethic was great.
I wish the information that I was being taught
was more useful.
So, four years, and so I find that there was a
lot of good that I got in the university system. But the
information in those four years, it didn't give me what I needed.
It didn't, you know, I two years in crypto, I learned more about
economics, probably like one year in crypto, I learned more about economics,
probably like one year in crypto than I did in my college. I think it needs to be reformed
maybe. My girlfriend said, well, if I wanted to go to medical school, why did they make
me take physics? I hated physics. There's all these classes that are unnecessary to the path you want to go to, but they make you
take them because they want to keep you there for longer.
BK, just on my guys.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Got you. Got you. No, I wanted to be respectful for asset because I think it's his first time up here
Yeah
Listen, this is something near and dear to my heart. The whole educational system is one big scam
all you have to do is a little bit of history go go on the internet like asset saying and
saying and you know search for verifiable evidence and facts.
And you know search search for verifiable
Obviously everybody has their own opinions but the facts remain that the General Education
Board is responsible for the educational system in this country.
Started in 1902 Rockefeller created it.
This is a guy who on record stated that he doesn't want a nation, he doesn't
want to create a nation of thinkers, he wants to create a nation of workers. And that's
why the educational system is based on a type of education called rote memorization. Right? It's not really learning. It's just memorizing. And to Noah's point,
why do you think that they make you take all of these other things? Like if you're in physics,
why do you need all these other classes? Like why isn't there more targeted education? And then
Why, why isn't there more targeted education?
And then one simple fact, what the hell is $500 about a book?
Why is a book called-
Oh my God, don't get me started on that bullshit.
Um, sorry, BK, I'll let you finish.
I just-
No, no, no worries.
You know, what actually directed me towards that, that, towards this way of thinking and actually going into research and, you know, looking a little bit deeper into it was when you remember back when I can't remember the name of the platform, but they were trying to sell used books so that students could go and sell their books and they like banned it.
And I was like, wait, what are they doing?
You know, and then I figured out the reason they ask you what your degree is, you know,
what do you want to major in? Right? It's because then now you become a number, you know, of how
many dollars they know immediately by your major or what you want to get a degree in,
they know how much they're gonna charge you.
So right away, right off the bat,
they know how much money they're gonna juice from you.
But yeah, the books, I mean,
that's a glaring obvious thing.
And then the fact that for so long,
they wouldn't let people sell their books, you know, to new students.
You know, you have to sell them back to the store or something if they even had that available. But yeah,
check it out, General Education Board 1902, Rockefeller.
This is a guy that did not care about giving you, you know, information to make independent decisions.
And that's why, you know, to this day, you don't see them teaching too much financial independence.
You know, it's all about how you can go work for somebody, right? And then when you hear the
statement of Rockefeller saying,
I wanna create a nation of workers, not thinkers,
you know, it's just easy to put that puzzle together.
100%, right?
Mobi, if I may.
So what they essentially want you to do is be in the box
and not be out of the box thinkers.
Touching upon a touchy subject,
it's the subject of psychedelics.
And that is why psychedelics are essentially banned
so that you become the cog in the machine
and the capitalistic machine.
And essentially people like Rockefeller,
they portray an image wherein they're grade A philanthropists,
but at the end of the day,
they just want you to be trapped in the system.
And college is a scam guys, college is a scam.
But if you go to the right colleges,
you're exposed to a network.
Other than that, I think you have the resources
to become a complete effective human being
without a college.
Yeah, I just wanna piggyback off of that.
I think certain colleges,
I saw I have friends that, two of my best friends went to
HBS Harvard Business School and
When they were there I asked them if they're learning a lot and they said not really
right all the stuff that they were learning at Harvard Business School was
Was the stuff that they learned working on Wall Street over the last two three years
one was that private equity,
other one was iBanking. And they said they went for the network, they went to meet people.
And a lot of the friends they met, a lot of the connections they made at HBS, they're
those, those people they work with, they get into deals with their best friends with. And
so that's why I would go to grad school, I would go to grad school to network with people.
I think that certain degrees need to be reformed in a way where you are just learning stuff.
I think reading and writing are important.
So I think everyone in college should be required to take some sort of a writing course because
it'll transcend that niche and it'll help you in other areas of your life.
Even trying to formulate thoughts when having a debate or a conversation or trying to get
what's in your head out on paper or out in words, writing helps a lot with that.
It's so important to learn how to write.
Noah, what's your thought about free education?
So this is what I feel about free education.
I think that doctors, nurses, and certain engineers, I think doctors should have free
education and I think nurses should have free education.
I know that might be a hot take, but other than that, no, because the thing is, there's
so many degrees that are—I think about it very economically.
I know almost for a fact that a doctor is going to tangibly give back to their community,
but someone that studies economics or business or finance, I don't know that for a fact.
So I think it's unfair to,
I mean, it'd probably be the American taxpayer that's subsidizing this. So I think it's unfair
to the American taxpayer. But I certainly think that I have a lot of I mean, watching my girlfriend
go through residency, I have a lot of thoughts about the path to becoming a doctor. It's another
conversation. I think residency is way too intense for no reason. And I think it deters a lot of really brilliant minds from becoming doctors because they're
thinking to themselves, well, why wouldn't I just go work on Wall Street for 10 years
rather than be in school for 10 years?
I get much more ahead.
But we need great doctors and we don't need that path to be bottlenecked.
So that's what I think about for education.
I don't think it should be for every degree or I think it should be very certain paths.
Mainly healthcare industry.
Nurses also, like nurses need to,
I think nurses need to be paid more
because they're not paid enough for the bullshit
they have to deal with every day.
I don't know about the-
I know, I was gonna say really quick.
I don't need to speak. Oops, sorry, you're breaking up. But yeah- I was gonna say-
Oops, sorry, you're breaking up. But yeah, I was gonna say respond directly to the residency thing
is the uh Because of that that whole residency thing
You know how many people that I know that wanted to be general practitioners that wanted to like treat kids or do things in their neighborhood?
that that you know like things that they weren't
Privileged to you because they didn't have insurance or their parents weren't rich enough
They want to just have like a nice affordable thing
but when they do the math like they do they see how long residency is gonna do they crunch out all the numbers and
everything and even if they they still decide to be a doctor instead of
following that dream of having affordable health care in their neighborhood they go into like
the most lucrative specialist field,
right, because once you do that, the 10 year thing and like the residency,
and like you just said, they compare it to like,
okay, my friends that are, you know,
they didn't even finish school and they're in Wall Street,
this is what they're making,
they just crunch out some numbers.
And it's like deterring those people from doing it
So yeah
100 agree with you on that one in that regards because the people that want to be just like general doctors
So many of them end up as specialists or in different fields because of that grueling process
And I I don't think that is necessarily a good thing the argument they could use on the counter side is well
If you want someone that's saving lives and cutting people open and doing all
These things wouldn't you want them to have that extra ten years of experience?
Well, yes, you could put it that way
But then at the same time if you're taking them away from earning income
And starting their families and doing all those other things and then it's like counterproductive
Tropic like my my girl my girl's been in residency for she's about to finish her third year and they pay them dog shit like they get paid I mean they
get paid like 60k a year and they're doing I mean they're essentially doing
the job of a hospitalist like you're doing a job of a hospital doctor it
doesn't make any sense there's no reason why she shouldn't be be compensated the
way that a doctor should be so it's it's an exploitive system
It's I don't want to say it's extractive
but it's exploitive and it is extractive slightly because these people are being worked to the bone and
Me when I watch this I say well, I don't want my kids to be doctors. Fuck this. This is this is too much and
You know my best friends the ones that I told you guys about the ones that went to HBS
Their dad was a doctor.
And when we were kids, he'd say, don't become a doctor.
Don't do it.
Because it's such a grueling path.
And a lot of people get out of medical school or rather get out of residency with debt.
And they're not being paid as much.
So yeah, I think even though a specialist needs to go through extra work, I think the
surgeon should be doing eight years of residency because you're
cutting people open. But the surgeon should also be compensated for their time. They shouldn't
be getting paid dog shit. Prometheus, what's going on? Prometheus?
Okay, I can keep ranting.
Hey, hey, sorry, bro.
Sorry, I was just getting to the mic button.
It takes a while.
Good to see you, fam.
How you doing?
Gab, good to see you.
Cade, good to see you.
Lady Trader, the whole crew is here.
Nah, I completely agree, bro.
Look, I want all of you guys to help if you want to.
Okay, I want to create a healing center in the world.
I want to create a healing center in the world.
I want to create a healing center in the world.
I want to create a healing center in the world.
I want to create a healing center in the world.
I want to create a healing center in the world. I want to create a healing center in the world. I want to create a healing center in the world. I want to create a healing center in the world, I want all of you guys to help if you want
to. Okay, I want to create a healing center in Washington, D.C., where we treat PTSD soldiers
and whatnot. I want it totally crypto centric. And I want to pay the nurses exactly what
they deserve. Okay. A hundred came minimum per nurse. And, you know, like, rather than complaining
about this shit, look, we've got the capital,
we've got the network, we've got the drive, folks.
Let's get together, band together as a band of brothers
and kick some ass of this pathetic,
pharmaceutical, phony industry that keeps poisoning us,
that keeps lying to us, that stacks all this BS,
you know, day in, day out, like fuck these guys.
Sorry, I'm on my chant today, but you know,
like honestly, like this medical system
is not a healing system.
We need, let's get rid of hospitals altogether.
That's why I call it a healing center.
Let's have lots of animals there.
We're going a little, sorry, sorry,
I'll let you finish. I'm sorry.
I know, I know. I'm taking this whole conversation in another direction, but since you were on your
soapbox with nurses, like it's just one of those things, man. It gets under my skin as well.
Hey, we're going to start talking about vaccines too, Noah. It's a little aggressive to go. I'm
with you. It's interesting because my my girlfriend tries to anytime I have like a
headache or something she tries to give me pill like an aspirin
or whatever she was trying to help me but I've always been
very I want to do things as naturally as I possibly can. But
I think I don't maybe you're being hyperbolic but I don't
think we should get rid of hospitals and I do think that
modern medicine has its place and I'll be damned like if I have the flu and if I have COVID,
I want Paxlovid, I want I want Tamiflu, I want I want this stuff that's going to make
me get better quickly. I've tried a lot of natural over over the years, I've definitely
tried natural remedies when I'm aggressively sick and they don't fucking work.
I don't care what anyone says, they don't work.
It's, it's, it's to the science.
So let's not get rid of.
I hear you look, look, there's some of it that is,
but there's also a lot of it that isn't, you know,
that we have to find, we need a new research division.
Like, like you're saying, Noah, like we need to like discern
between where modern medicine definitely has its place, okay? Like if you get your fingers cut off,
you want a quality surgeon who's been through the mill, obviously knows their shit, like my uncle,
who's a world-class urologist. But like, you know, there's also the other side of the equation, which is that there's, you know, why was Ivermectin banned during COVID?
Like we all need to ask these questions because we've all lost loved ones.
We know people have been damaged by the shock.
So like this is, it's high time we as an industry, because like the capital is on our side, folks. Okay? Each of you guys are going to be mega fucking millionaires, if not billionaires by the time, you know, like 10, 15 years from now. All right? So like,
including me. And so like, you know, when we have this capital, what are we going to use it for?
Let's use it to completely revolutionize health. Well, how did we make it? How did we make it here?
Well, how did we make it? How did we make it here? How did we make it without the modern
medicine? You know, the way that they act is like without Tylenol and all of this crap,
like we wouldn't survive, you know, and it's just it's completely been monetized. And I
agree. I agree that that, you agree that hospitals can't get rid of
because the surgeon's there,
but the pharmaceutical industry is destroying our bodies.
And Noah, my question to you is
one of the greatest things to combat sickness
is that's the thing too, is how you look at sickness, right?
And I know you don't want to go too far into this, but sickness is really the body detoxifying,
getting rid of the toxins, whether it's through the air, through the food.
And that's another thing to discuss is the food, right?
Not just the pharmaceuticals, but the actual food.
But Noah, my question to you directly would be, have you ever tried fasting?
Yeah, so we intermittent fasts here and there. My dad has been fasting for Ramadan. He's 81, or he's 80 now and he's still doing it. It's crazy. So yeah, I know I've been around,
I've been around fasting. I've never fasted for a long period of time.
It's not really my thing and I'm not a religious person,
but I participated in fasting during periods of my life
if I wanted to do with my dad here and there.
And look, I like doing things naturally, right?
So let's say that someone's depressed
and I don't believe in just giving them medication right away,
like go get some sun, go exercise.
Go, oh, you're depressed?
Oh, maybe it's because you don't have a job
and you're sitting at home all day.
Maybe you're just sad, you're not depressed.
So I think certain things are overdiagnosed.
And I hate the idea of children being given stimulants like Adderall. I think
it's disgusting. I think that the kid can't sit still because he's a kid and he's not
supposed to sit still for eight hours a day or nine hours, however long they're in elementary
school for. He's supposed to be running around outside. So that's how I feel about that.
However, I do think that there's things that modern medicine fixes that you're just not
going to get.
It's a good suggestion.
How did we get here without modern medicine for thousands of years?
Well, people used to die at age 30 or age 50,
and people used to die from things like polio.
I don't want to get too aggressive and say that.
My dad got really sick a couple of times the last two years.
If it wasn't for modern medicine,
he would have probably died.
The last thing I would have done when he was that
sick is like, hey, let me find the healing center, because I just don't think we're
there yet. Right. And
yeah, I think even Steve Jobs, I think if I'm don't correct me if I'm wrong, but
he rejected chemo in the beginning, he wanted to he wanted to try an alternative
method. And by the time he went to do chemo is too late. So I don't know, I just think that I just think that modern
medicine it needs more. It needs more reformation, but I don't want to throw the baby out with
the bathwater.
Yeah, I would just say anybody research Dr. Sabe. Dr. SabeE-B-I, his case, they took him to court because he said he cured AIDS,
herpes, diabetes, everything.
They took him to court and it was dismissed.
So in other words, he won the case because he was able to unequivocally prove that there
are cures and natural cures for all of these things. And Noah, I would say they've really convinced us
that we are not incredible beings,
incredible self-healing beings.
And I don't wanna get like too hippie on you,
but bro, we have so much power within our bodies
and we can heal ourselves.
You just have to give it a chance
and get rid of the toxins.
That's what fasting and long-term fasting does.
So I'm familiar with Dr. Sebi.
Amen, okay.
His whole notion was cancer and disease cannot survive
in an alkaline body.
And he promoted the plant-based diet and all this stuff.
I remember him quite vividly actually.
I agree, right? Like diet,
and one of the things that I can't stand is when I see an unhealthy doctor, right? Because
you're supposed to be this guru of health and just wellness and you don't know the first thing about eating.
My girl's been learning a lot about diet and she's specializing in obesity medicine because
we have a huge obesity epidemic in this country.
It's insane.
But yeah, diet, exercise, these things are all important.
But I'll tell you what what man, no one is invincible
and sometimes you just need a little bit of that regulated pharmaceutical drug action
to keep you well.
I think my perspective has changed a lot because I think before, I used to think a lot like
you guys, right?
But I've been in situations and I've seen family members in situations where
they're really, really sick.
And if they didn't get hospitalized, they might've not made it.
So Mobi, I have a few thoughts on this, right?
So we can't trash the alternative medicine, neither the allopathic or the
modern healthcare system.
Now, if you have a cut leg or a cut finger,
you need to have a heart bypass,
you gotta go to modern medicine.
But you can't take pill for every little thing
and depend on the modern medicine infrastructure.
Because essentially what you're doing is
that you're delaying your healing, right?
And you're hooked to paying them so that you can sustain.
Now, just some side note,
I've done my RYT and RYT 200 in yoga,
and I do I do know a little bit of Ayurveda. And in Ayurveda, there's something called the Dosa
system, right, which is like Vata Pitta Kapha, which is the different levels that we need to
optimize in our body to live harmoniously. Now someone said that by 30 or 40 people used to die
back in the day. That's true. But those 30 and 40 years, they would qualitatively live well.
No microplastics in their food,
you know, like wholesome food, no pesticides, X, Y, Z.
And then they might get a smallpox or something and poof, gone.
But these days, people live till about 90 or 80 years.
But a significant portion of 30, 40 years is just stretched, right, they're living but not
really living, if you get my drift. So let's not judge quality and quantity together. Modern medicine
definitely has its place in the current infrastructure, in the current set up, societal set up,
but I think it's on us as humans like Wim Hof does. So they did a study in Netherlands wherein
they, through his consent, they shot him
with a dose of E. coli, right?
So the guy has mastered breath work to such an extent
that he was physically, consciously able to
eject it out of the body.
So it's on YouTube.
So we are, like someone said, we're incredibly,
incredibly, incredibly powerful beings
and the metaphysical sense of God
or God in everyday things, right?
It comes through attention and putting work in your body,
energetically building yourself.
So you can heal yourself through a lot of things,
through a lot of alchemizing the way your life is set up
and you don't necessarily have to deal, I mean,
rely on modern healthcare infrastructure
all the time.
So my point ties down to modern healthcare treats things at a symptomatic level and to
your own alchemy of what works for you, treats you on a holistic level and essentially cures
you paving the pathway for a holistic life.
Prometheus or I think Tropic, I don't know who was first.
Tropic, go ahead bro. Yeah, well I forgot what I was going to say but my mind actually just went to, if you guys ever heard the joke that like you know what do you call the person that graduates
the bottom of their, their med school?
And obviously the answer is a doctor.
So someone's doctor out there is like, you know, the one who just coasted
through, did absolutely nothing.
And so, yeah, there is the balance.
There are the good ones.
They're absolutely, yeah, we want to look to them and, and, uh, get the advice
from them, but then there is that one that just barely made it through
is just a piece of like mess.
Like they come in, they're all in sloppy,
they're not eating right for themselves
and they coasted through.
But guess what?
They're a doctor and somebody's doctor that's on this panel
or in this room is probably that doctor.
Just keep that in mind.
So do you wanna take everything they say as gospel?
No, take everything with a grain of salt
and just hope that you have a good one
and then cross-re reference that and get a second
opinion and all that stuff because
Just like schools, you know
we open this thing up with like a huge rant against school and all that stuff and I'm very critical of school and
It's it's important to say that like do I think the entire system is a waste?
No, would I have done it or recommend my kids or whoever to go into it?
Like I won't push them to, but if they choose to, okay, cool.
That's their whole thing, like taking out a loan for it now.
But yeah, I wouldn't throw out the baby with the bath water.
There's good, there's the bad and the same thing with the whole natural
things is gluing all this together.
Right.
The natural stuff.
Yes.
You know, I'm in Jamaica right now where like they say square per square mile.
There's the most like pharmaceutical plants and stuff
is that there's people from all over the world study this stuff from Switzerland and God
knows where they're coming here because like they could find the mushrooms, they could
find all the pharmaceutical plants and everything and they can recreate these medicines that
are more potent. So am I throwing anything out? No, it's all here. It's all good. And you just
have to kind of pick and choose what you're going to do and who you're going to follow and who you're
going to listen to and not be an extremist in anything. It's kind of like being a maxi in crypto,
right? It's like you can be gung-ho about one particular thing and so excited about one
particular technology, but if it doesn't solve the problem that you're trying to solve, well,
then there's going to be cracks in your maxi armor,
right, so with that whole thing,
I'll just land plain there and say,
you have to pick and choose
what you're trying to accomplish
and what's the best way to do that,
and I think at the end of the day,
the only maxi or the only thing you should be so gung-ho
about and so locked into
is finding the solution for your problem,
and each problem is unique.
And I think just being able to analyze it,
step back unemotionally and just say,
all right, you know what?
For this particular situation, this path,
this thing I'm trying to solve right now,
maybe it would be okay to go down this route,
even though it's not the one that I'm most favorable for,
but it works for this situation.
That's where I kind of think most things end up.
I love it.
That was a great summary.
And I think that you kind of highlighted what we mostly all agree on.
I do believe that a hybrid approach is necessary based on each case.
And I want to kind of link medicine to blockchain.
And I think that's also an interesting topic.
By the way, we got the champ Scotty Pippen in the audience there.
So Scotty, if you want to come up and have a conversation with us, I'll show you an invite.
Yeah.
What do you guys think about blockchain technology revolutionizing medical infrastructure
and kind of the way that patient data is stored and the way that patient data is available
to doctors across multiple countries?
Because right now, actually, my girlfriend wrote a paper on this that we're going to
publish in the next couple of days.
But I think that it's something that needs to be done sooner rather than later.
So that if you're in Thailand, for example, and God forbid you break your leg or something
and you need emergency surgery, the doctor there can, using some sort of a ZK tech, ZK
proof or ZK tech, I'm not sure of the nuances, can look up your information and look up
what you're allergic to, what you're not allergic to,
what your previous medical history,
I think this is really important.
I'm curious to know what you guys think about
the timeline for this being implemented.
Yeah, great question there, Noah.
And if we look at medical chain,
if we look at Guard Time, Basel IQ, like
all these medically oriented blockchain protocols that have been launched, that's exactly what
they're doing. Like they're having that kind of integrated identity across different marketplaces,
across different situations implemented on chain. And I think that's phenomenal.
I think when that even comes further along with AI,
we're gonna do an AI space in an hour folks,
you know, a little pitch there for everyone,
but like, you know, like it's gonna be phenomenal.
Like on the one hand, you know,
I think the biggest thing
that we can provide as an industry is one,
this, as you mentioned, this kind of data
synchronicity across different mediums
through a single ZK knowledge identity.
But also, I think we can revolutionize, you know, like costs and integrate different
processes.
Like, for example, you know, why is it you have to fill out a bunch of fucking forms
when you're at the emergency?
Like, you know, it should be a single as, you know, an NFT click or whatever.
And then, you know, like your health insurance is up, your, you know, like your data, your
previous records, all that stuff needs to be up.
So I think this is a very promising avenue of pioneering and what Tropic said earlier as well,
so eloquently. Let's have a mixed martial arts approach to this, okay? Where a particular
solution is more valid, like, yeah, sure, let, let's go down, you know, modern medicine and all of that, but not to, you know, dilute what BK said as well as someone who lost his sense of smell
during COVID. I fasted and prayed and three days later, no kidding, guys, like, I lost my sense of
smell for a good month. I couldn't smell the garbage. I couldn't smell the roses. Three days
later, that thing came back and it was you know due to diet and
fasting and so we have these remarkable abilities inside of us and we do need to
teach that to the next generation and also develop the whole healthcare sector
across identity and across and lowering costs as well I think we can do a big
job in that direction as well.
in that direction as well.
Right on. I think we went a little bit over because we started late.
But yeah, I was gonna say I can't see all the speakers. I'm getting rugs tremendously bad on
spaces today. I've had two spaces in a row rug on me. I think Shaolin's on stage or he was in the
past. He may have dropped down. If Shaolin's up here, I would love to get his take on some of the
thoughts and get some thoughts over from him. If he's not on stage,
then I guess I'll just work my case and give up on my entire life.
No, thank you. No, I think these topics are really interesting because, you know, it really kind of
hits home. I actually have a lot of family and a lot of close friends that are in the medical field,
and I agree with a lot of the sentiment, you know, that the healthcare system is broken.
One, it should be universal, right? We need to give access to everyone
as possible. You know, what I will tell you, I like the shift, is kind of these memberships,
right? So basically these practitioners, whether it's nurses, doctors, and other areas, medicine,
where people are able to go a little bit deeper and away from the traditional hospitals, you know, I think they're really necessary when it comes to like getting a specialist and having that
networking contact in the facilities. But in terms of actual day to day care, doctors,
nurses that are part of these like clubs, right, and some of them actually are doing
it with NFTs. So that's kind of cool, too. It's kind of taking more of a personal approach
of really attacking, you know,
the problem with personal care.
And when you have this membership, you know,
obviously you go through your healthcare
and you do the normal bit, but you know,
you pay anywhere from like a hundred to a thousand dollars
a year to have access to them in a way
that makes it relatable, right?
I think the biggest problem when you go
to these larger hospitals is that you're basically a number,
you're a metric for them to be able to get in, get out,
and get paid.
But the reality is a lot of the bullshit that they deal with
is being kind of like the psychiatrist, right?
Actually being able to spend the time and diagnose
and see what's going on mentally, right?
Health-wise, and then kind of figuring out,
where the physical parts land and sometimes it's in between.
So, that being said, I think,
if we were to kind of lean into this
and kind of go into the DSAI approach
and allow funding where people can,
provide grants and provide opportunities
with actual funding, both as part of the system,
as well as from a grant perspective, you can take a lot of the money and empower these doctors to do the thing
so that they can actually focus on their jobs and not worried about being underpaid,
but more importantly, delivering on the actual medicine that they're there for.
So I think, you know, this is a great topic.
I definitely appreciate the politics involved, but, you know, I think the reality is,
is we have to kind of go down to the lowest common denominator in terms of you know actual proper health care in the first place,
and then actually talk about some of these applications in these ways that kind of drive it.
I think you know if we can provide decentralization in some form or some fashion, you know unfortunately
you know being the based in the U.S. I know that's never going to happen because it's too much of a
money machine, but you know maybe these places that do have universal health care and
governments apply these application with, you know, education partners,
institutions, you know, things like that.
I think you can start seeing a difference and having the impact that it should have.
But yeah, no, I'm here for it and love the conversation.
Appreciate you, Kate.
Love it. And I was going to say, I don't know if Efe's still with us.
I know he's busy trading March Madness right now.
But Efe, if you had any thoughts on this topic in general, we'd love to get some.
If not, I'm happy to close us out.
Or if there's any final takes, we'd love to get those.
But if you got any, we'd love to hear from you.
No, right now I'm just on Robinhood trading March Madness because that's the level of
degen that I am at right now.
And the fact that they added this is probably the worst and greatest thing ever at the same
time.
Yeah, I got $2 in Dogecoin the other day for some kind of trivia thing that I played.
I think it was like a week or two ago.
I really like these things that these engagements they put on where they probably get half a million
people or millions of people on the platform all at once to participate in a live event.
I think it's a good idea. And I'm sure it's for like certain KPIs they want to be able
to bring in a certain amount of people for whatever reason. But I like the campaigns.
I think they're fun. And
Did you see the kid that used perplexity to win the trivia and he won Bitcoin and, um,
he was publicly posted and then, um, Vlad handled it very well.
They actually ended up meeting each other in person.
It was, it was really cool.
They handled it very well.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He used perplexity AI in real time to get all of the answers correct.
And when, win the Bitcoin.
It was like $1,100 or something, I think.
That is very cool.
That is very cool. Did not know that.
By the way, if anyone else has any final thoughts,
shout out to Scottie Pippen down there in the audience as well.
Shout out to those.
Hey, Scottie Pippen, Hamburg, Arkansas, baby, UCA.
That's my guy.
Let's go.
I see Pramath is unmuted though.
No, just very quickly guys.
On this day, 19 years ago, Jack tweeted, just setting up my Twitter with his first ever
tweet.
So, and we're using that same legacy platform in a different way.
Thanks to Elon.
So big thanks to, you know, the builders out here, you know,
like builders make the world of a difference and keep building guys.
We're this, this, there's an infinite horizon.
Don't, don't listen to the negative Nancy's just, just keep building.
Did you see the replies of Justin sun trying to buy the tweet once for half a
million again for a million.
Yeah bro I saw that.
What like as an NFT? What do you mean buy the tweet? How would you buy the tweet?
I don't get it either. I just saw him, I just, I clicked on it because I saw the tweet as well
and underneath it Justin Sun once in 2021 and then again was like I'll buy your tweet for
half a million and then he offered a million after that. It's pretty funny. I don't really get it either
Yeah, they had turned it into an NFT
They just screenshot it basically and then I put it on chain and that was during the time when they were selling
You know all the YouTube memes like the Charlie got my finger and all that stuff. That was right after the whole
Beable things when everyone was just going crazy
Perfect. I forgot about that whole air that part of crypto and
NFTs that was wild. I remember when all that was going down. Yeah, I kind of forgot about that whole that whole
Dang, wow, that threw me back dude
Man that's funny Noah
Was there any final thoughts or any announcements things you want to let people know about before we wrap? No, no, that's funny. Noah, was there any final thoughts or any announcements, things
you want to let people know about before we wrap?
No, no, everything's good. Guys, be safe out there. Nothing is financial advice on these
spaces. Just keep that in mind. And the name of the game in crypto is survival. Make sure
you're not over-leveraged and make sure you can survive through these choppy periods.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Righto, well listen, I appreciate everyone who came through. Appreciate over leveraged and make sure you can survive through these choppy periods.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Right out. Well, listen, I appreciate everyone who came through. Appreciate you, Wolf, Emp. Appreciate you, Moby, Noah, Prometheus, Shalan, Tropic, BK, Acid Mantle.
I had a few others come through as well. Shout out to all of you.
Definitely give them a follow if you're in the space.
Definitely want to be following these people. They're in a lot of spaces.
So if you like these conversations, they're oftentimes on panels just like this that are
great conversation.
We host spaces all the time here at Wolf Crypto.
We have full financial for the stock world.
Mobi Media covers a lot of things in crypto.
Definitely give us a follow.
We're hosting tons of spaces and content.
And yeah, man, we got spaces every single day here.
I'm going to jump over to Lady Trader's space here
in just a second, actually, she's hosting.
So I'll catch you guys over there on the next one.
Happy Crypto Pulse Friday.
We'll catch you in the next one.
AI is the next space, by the way, in about 40 minutes.
We'll be hosting that space on Wolf Crypto.
So we'll catch you there for that as well.
Take care.
See you guys, bye-bye.
Bye, guys.
