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Cup of JOE w/ W3JOE / Ep. 5 ft. @kryptobaby777
Recorded: Aug. 6, 2025 Duration: 0:58:33Space Recording
Short Summary
In this engaging episode of Cup of Joe with Web3 Joe, industry leaders discuss the evolving landscape of Web3 careers, emphasizing the importance of networking, continuous learning, and maintaining a strong reputation. With insights on upcoming events and the shift from trading to building sustainable careers, this conversation is a must-listen for crypto enthusiasts looking to navigate the Web3 space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. I'm People not be shy, I just shy Well, I'm climbing over that wall
I remember, yes, I remember, yes, I remember it all
Swear the hype be too tall, so lights are down where I fall
Down low, down low, let the medicine be on call
Feeling like you hot enough to melt, yeah Can't trust no one, you can't even trust yourself, yeah I'm gonna be alright. All right. I know all the cities, no surprise though You're gonna miss my eyes
I don't know about people, not me, I just got to
Roll up
Roll up
I can't see you now, I don't know. You see me now, I don't know.
G-M-G-A-G-E.
What is going on, ladies and gentlemen?
Thank you for joining me for another episode of Cup of Joe with Web3 Joe. That's Web3 Job Ops and Events.
I'm Gambler, your host. We are here every Wednesday, every Friday at 1230 p.m. Eastern.
That's 930 a.m. Pacific for our friends on the West Coast. And these spaces are powered by none other than web3 job ops and events your hub
headquarters home base for web3 talent and recruitment and once again we run these spaces
every week twice a week doing our best to bring on leaders in the space who have gotten their foot in the door at Web3 companies, legitimate teams, and have actually
succeeded in adding value, becoming a part of the team and pushing the space forward
in their own way.
So excited to have you all here with us today.
Love to see the room filling up.
Shout out Nikki.
Shout out Min.
Blessing.
Sid.
Sham.
Shout out Sailor.
Shout out Mystic.
Everybody in here here anybody listening to
recording any of our friends on YouTube and Spotify because we do share these spaces on
YouTube and Spotify as well check us out we appreciate you being here and let's go ahead
and oh a couple quick announcements I did pin up top the spaces promos. If you guys could share those out, give us some love comments. Always appreciated. Also, a couple open job opportunities that we're also going to be hosting uh an event uh around eath
nyc or eath new york next week so that's pinned up top as well feel free to rsvp now without
further ado let's say hello and happy belated birthday to miss kb kb how are you doing happy
wednesday thank you for joining us today yeah what's what's up, Jim, Jim? Thank you. And yeah,
thank you for having me. Yeah, of course. Happy to have you here with us. I know you've been a
part of the Monad team for a minute. More recently, I have to find out exactly how recently I saw
Kuru Exchange enter your bio. So I know you talk the talk, you walk the walk, and I've had the
pleasure of meeting you in person. So shout out to you. Thank you for coming out, taking the time and sitting down with us for a bit.
One more reminder, folks, if you're listening, shout out to Space.
Leave us a like, leave us a comment.
And later on, we'll have an opportunity for you guys to jump up, join the conversation as well,
because we love hearing from you as well.
So Ms. KB, to get us started, could you give us a brief background,
a little bit on your story and how you made it to this crazy place called Web3?
Yeah, definitely. But just to correct you, so I'm not on the Monad team.
It's also pronounced Monad, not Monad, because ticker Mon.
But yeah, so I interned for Monad for a few months, about five months, I think.
And then that's when I got my position at Kuru. So I do work for the Kuru team full time.
And right now I'm a Monad alumni, as you like to call them. But they have like a really kind of
great, it's like not even an official program, but that's what I felt that I went through. And, you know, they really do like nurture the people who are in the community. So, you know, obviously, I work in the ecosystem now. And that's essentially how that works. But yeah, so the journey, I always need to like, this is always a funny question because I'm like,
oh man, I always get asked this, right?
And I need to figure out a way to make it short.
But I mean, you know, I think COVID times 2020, I bought Doge really early, like, you
know, under a penny.
And I was just curious on, I was doing a little bit of the robin hood stocks
and i'm like well what's this crypto shit and bitcoin ethereum chain link ada you know i was
like my left curved brain was like i don't understand any of this um but i understood
dogecoin i understood memes um so that's why i went with Doge at the time and I didn't have a lot of
money. So nothing really happened. And then for like six months, and then the whole Elon thing
happened, we all know how that went. And so yeah, I saw an opportunity of like, wow, like you really
can make money here. And I think that in the beginning, we are we all are here for money and
opportunity, right. and but then you
essentially learn um so i started like learning about just crypto blockchain i got into the nft
space um and that was some hard lessons as well but you know going into the nft space and just
buying into these things obviously to get an roi, you, you know, I ran into just like
community stuff and, you know, meeting other like-minded people, meeting people in the space.
I started going to events, you know, based around NFT NYC and things like that. And,
you know, we went into that really big bear market and you just kind of you just there's like a world
that i'm like all right i'm in it and now i lost all my money and i need to make it back right
um so it's just yeah right like that's you just trauma bonded you i mean that's how we met right
gambler like um that's how i know you through this like bottom with the bear ftx solano's eight
dollars and that was like a good year and a half of us just coping. And in
that time, you essentially you I just I built my account inadvertently, I made a brand around
Pikachu. I was just really having a lot of fun, you know, while not, you know, while we weren't
having money, I was working IRL as well. And, and then just being here in the space, they always
say, it's time in the market, not time in the market. So I definitely, you know, doing ordinals,
and getting into some early coins, I was able to get back into the game, and continue to like be
on chain. And so from there, I was able to bounce around from chain to chain.
I, you know, still going to events and, you know, doing Twitter spaces,
which is, you know, I think crypto and social media,
crypto and Twitter have a very, very interesting correlation and coexistence.
And that's where you just communicate and like, you know, find out
about these new things and, you know, you know, keep clicking, click, click some buttons. And
that's essentially how I found Monad. And through just like Twitter and connections and, and my
networks. And yeah, like found Monad. And there's a story about that i can tell you guys
about later but um but yeah that's basically like i just stumbled my way into this into this
position and into this space um so yeah that's a gist of it so it's monad are you sure you're
not trolling me right now no 100 100 so i said monad for like
a good five months um and that was like doing twitter spaces and everything and then there's
this interview i don't know if there's a few of you guys in the in the audience um in the community
if you if you know which interview i'm talking about uh there's like a 60 second interview with keone and um they ask is it monad or monad
and he goes monad so ever since then i'm like oh fuck i've been saying this shit wrong uh sorry for
my language um and uh yeah so it's monad and it makes sense because you wouldn't say ticker moan
you know like you're gonna say i don't know if that's why it makes yeah you're gonna say ticker mon that makes sense mana i don't know if that's why it makes sense but i'm gonna let
you have that one because i have a follow-up and then we need to get back on track do you say jif
or do you say gif gif see well it's jif so if you wanna i'm just letting you know it's good
the same logic you just used the the dude who created the term GIF says it's GIF.
Damn it.
I don't know what to tell you.
Did he really?
But, yeah, yeah, that's actually one of those really random facts that I have to know.
All right, so I guess I'll say GIF.
You either hate me or love me if you're hearing this right now in the audience.
Listen, don't kill the messenger.
I'm just letting you know.
I'm just letting you know.
Look it up. Google it. Ask Chagip Petit. We're going to keep it pushing.
But I do relate to a lot of what you said. I actually got in with Doge as well. I didn't
get in super early, but I got in just early enough to write it up. I think Elon was going to make me
rich. He did not make me rich. But I stuck around and I was like, all right, well, what can I do?
And I want to ask you, because like, again, being part of that same class, like, would you have it any other way?
Like if you could, because I always say I came in just in time to be ex of liquidity.
But I say that as a joke. And like you said, I took that time to stick around, learn, connect with people.
And that's what's given me the opportunities that I have today.
So, like, how do you feel? Would you have it any other way if
you could go back and be like, okay, maybe you get in at the beginning of the bowl instead?
Or are you kind of happy with the path you ended up with?
I mean, if I could have been class of 2017, like, I would have taken that for sure. If I would have
known more. Yeah, like, I think that I mean, that's just a
that's like a hard question, right?
Because you with every cycle you you gain and you learn, right?
And even like this technically being our second cycle, like I still had a lot of fucking
hard lessons.
Like I fucked up a lot.
So I keep cursing, but like, I like I messed up a lot.
So, you know, I think that with this space, there comes experience. So it would have been better if I came in earlier, 100%. Because you're only as good as like your experiences and your time. Right? Like they say, like, if you do 10,000 hours of one thing, you're you're a professional, you're an expert, right? So the longer you're in this
place, the longer you understand, the better you are. So like, yes, like I would 100% would have,
you know, would have rather been in this a lot earlier than I was, you know, you knew about
crypto, like I knew about crypto during Silk Road, but like, I was too paranoid to use that and I didn't understand it so if I did I'd be hella
rich so um yeah but and you know I definitely am grateful for when I did get in because it would
be hard to get in now and I know there's some questions we'll touch on that as well.
Yeah I think I definitely would love to just have been here earlier but I think I definitely would love to just have been here earlier, but I think like for me,
at least for me getting in when I got in,
I think was good because I think if I would have gotten in at the beginning
of the bowl,
like I would have been more focused on trading.
Whereas since I got in kind of near the top or whatever,
and then I would add all that bear to kind of,
if you want to be here,
you got to be doing something other than trading often, especially if you want to sustain. So like for me, I think that specifically
helped me establish the mindset. I think I would have made it here eventually anyway,
but I think it might have taken longer if I was like distracted by the glitz and glam of the bull.
Whereas the way that I came in, I kind of, this is kind of the first bull that I'm experiencing
since, you know, whenever it started, whenever you want to say it started a year or two years ago.
But yeah, one more question. And then I want to get into like the practical stuff of like
getting hired. Do you have any like milestones that you're like, especially proud of over these
last few years in crypto? I mean, I would, I would say going from just like crypto degen to full-time career in crypto is like a giant milestone and one that I didn't really anticipate.
And yeah, like, you know, I guess like my follower count is okay.
All right, here we go with the follower count.
Yeah, and you know what?
You were somebody that kind of never saw yourself going down this path, right?
Like I kind of remember when you first went off with Monad,
you were a little bit hesitant, if I remember correctly, correct me if I'm wrong,
but this wasn't always the plan, right?
And now it seems like you were made for it the entire time.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to succumb to the vcs but now i'm fully fully fully vc funded
um but it's not so bad over here no i mean like you know i think it's not even about that it was
more so i've i've been in crypto and i did work kind of obscure jobs previously um and i think
the hardest thing for me and like with crypto and like morals in general, is that a lot of this is like vapor, right? And so my biggest issue with just working in anything in this industry was that like, it wasn't sustainable, and it was vapor, and it wasn't going to last, right? And so like, I didn't want to put my name behind that. And I just wanted peace. And also, you know, this industry is kind of ran by clowns and, like, nothing serious and people just want money.
And there's a lot of people that try to, like, leverage, you know, and extract.
And I'm a yapper and I'm active and I have a decent platform.
So there were people in the past that would try to leverage that.
So that was more so, like, what like what I didn't like want to happen but
with monad like I obviously went into it being like okay like how can I be early to something
because my experience being early with ordinals was so net net positive for me that um I was like where like what can I do next um and just kind of
reading into it I'm like oh like I get this like I saw the vision pretty early on um for like what
they wanted to do and and this is more so on like a 10-year timeline not like a year timeline
um so I was like I was I am bullish on it and at the time I was and so I really just wanted to you know get and go with the community and I was given an opportunity that I know that I had said that like I wasn't going to work in Web3 but it was an opportunity that I had to just kind of like put that aside and take essentially.
So I ran with it.
They gave you an offer you couldn't refuse, it sounds like.
I mean, it wasn't even that big of an offer.
It was just kind of like, you know, get in with like, you know, just kind of, hey, like, you know, interning with, you know, a really big L1. And there's,
it's not even that, like, I mean, I was interning, right, wasn't even crazy pay at the time. And so
now, like, you know, now I'm happy with what I have with Kuru, right? So, and but it's not even,
it's still pretty modest, to be honest, because like we are a startup, you know, and so those are things you have to remember.
And I think the biggest shift in my mindset, which is like a lot healthier, is that, you know, you kind of come into and especially like a lot of people in this space are very immature and not even like in like emotionally immature but like financially immature um with
not not much life experience and so you kind of go into this with the mindset also like there's a
lot of desperation here and just with the way society is and and jobs right so like you kind
of come in here being like I need to make a million dollars off like the $10 that I have, right? And so like you,
and that's everybody that's mean, like me too, like, I turned my $200 in doge into money that
I've never seen before. And I'm like, how do I get more of this? Because I, you know, I, you know,
I'm fucking just, you know, an American in this like crazy country, everything's expensive.
an American in this like crazy country everything's expensive um and so and so anyways yeah
I'm rambling but basically you go into this wanting to make a million dollars make 10 million
dollars retire and leave off of just clicking a button and like that mentality is so toxic and so
unhealthy and honestly is not like it's just not feasible and that's how everyone just loses
their money and that's how you get depression and that's how you lose and so now like I was
because of like these opportunities because of this these jobs and careers I am able to shift
my mind to being like well if I work really hard and I can make this amount of money a year, right, that
is above average salary in America.
I get to do remotely in my room.
I get to meet people around the world and I can continue building this career.
You can get, you know, equity, you can do this.
So like, you know, I've shifted my whole mindset to be like, well, I don't really need a 1000X.
Like, I have a really good full-time job that I love and that I'm good at.
So that's kind of where I'm like, this kind of shifted where, like, I'm good.
Like, 1000X would be nice.
Like, don't get me wrong.
But, like, you know, if it comes, it comes.
Yeah.
And when I said they gave you an offer you couldn't refuse, I definitely met like the
whole package, right?
Like the opportunity in itself and the way that it's paid off in you now being able to
work with Kuro and all the amazing connections that you made along the way, the value you've
added.
And that's really what I wanted to get to, right?
Because I know people are listening who are curious to know how they could do something
similar. You also touched earlier on like the fact that you kind of fell into it, which is something
a lot of people say. And I think, tell me what you think about this. But I think part of the
reason people say that is because this space, more than any other space, I would say, really rewards
those who are authentic and actually want to add value and push things forward.
And so when people are naturally that way, they end up with these stories where they're at Kuru Exchange and they're saying, oh, I just fell into it.
And some people may be listening and sometimes us ourselves may be looking back like, how did I get here?
Right. But that's why we want to have these conversations to kind of make it that much more practical and easy for people to understand. So
on that note, like, what is some advice you have, KB, for people listening to get their foot in the
door, get that conversation started with the team they potentially would like to work for?
Um, it, I think it depends on like the level that you're at um and kind of like you know I know it's
it's very hard for like smaller accounts um and I guess I'll just share um what happened with me
and so and it wasn't it's a little it was a little different right because the beautiful
thing about web3 is that like we are such a small and like niche industry. And so like these big CEOs and employers are pretty easily accessible. If you don't have like an inner connection, especially if they're active, like online. And so if you're trying to like reach someone in particular, or, you know, stand out to,
you know, to a company or to an employer, I would definitely start with putting their notifications
on, on Twitter, and, you know, stay in tune with like what they're doing. If it's not that CEO,
you know, in particular, people that work under that CEO that work with that company,
there's a ton of growth people. And so just like follow the people that are like involved in particular, people that work under that CEO that work with that company, there's a kind of growth people. And so just like follow the people that are like involved in this like protocol that
you're trying to like, reach out to and just be in tune what they're doing, be in tune with their
tweeting, and like where they're at. And so then at some point, you'll be able to kind of find something in common to to catch their attention and so like
um and so I'll share like my kind of what I did where I told you that I wasn't really looking for
a job at Monad at the time I was I don't know what I was doing um shout out Venom in the crowd
he was the one that was kind of like you should get in with monad and he always like has seen like
potential like in me and like my growth and i'm just like all right like like what's this like
monad thing about but um tunes was one of the accounts i had followed because he was growth
and i you know so obviously he has he's a giant account. There's a lot of people trying to get his attention. Um, and so whatever I followed him into a space. And so this was like alpha space.
And this was right. I think when Monad was doing their, um, really big campaign, I think thread
guy had just gotten hired and, you know, everyone's like kind of bullshitting on this space and not many people
are really knowing what monad is but i knew because i did some research and i just was like
everyone's like oh yo what's up kb and i'm like yo why do you guys want to talk to me like tunes
is on this space like tunes like tell us about monad and it just kind of gave him this like intro
um at the time and we just like bullshitted on this space for like an hour or two or something.
And then from there, he had followed me back.
And we talked about a Telegram chat, right?
Like there is a Telegram chat still still going.
And and yeah, like I DM him and was like, hey, like, so nice to connect.
So funny.
Like, so like networking things right now. I'm like, hey, like, so nice to connect. So funny. Like, there's a little like
networking things right now. I'm like, fuck you, Toons. But like, you know, at the time, like, oh,
so nice to connect, like, blah, blah, whatever. Like, I would love to join like your community.
And that's how I got in the in the chat. And then like two weeks and then like I and then I invited
him on a space with like my friends. Because know I'm like oh like you know this paradigm back
like L1 and like whatever and I was like Toons you want to like come to like our space um and so
after that he just kind of saw like he saw talent right he knew what he was doing like this was his
job he was building the ecosystem and he saw that I could hold to space he saw that I could yap he
saw that I took initiative and I was just doing me I was
just like you know okay how can I get my friends a wait list you know like how can I how can I do
this like that was just what the vibe was right we're getting that's just what we were doing
and by doing that you're just like inadvertently being a leader for community of your friends
um and yeah like Toons is a very smart guy and he was like yeah i need
her on the community team uh for this intern chat and that's just kind of how it happened um so that
you know like that that's like my best piece of advice is like you know study what you're true
you're trying to like you know don, don't just cold DM like,
like I want to be a mod, like GM sir, can I mod for you?
Like bro, you don't even know I'm a fucking girl, like get out of my face, you know?
So there's a, you'd be surprised, like people just don't give effort and so just like put a little bit of effort into it and like it will go a long way.
So that's my advice.
That is a really good advice.
And it's it's it covered themes that we've heard on this show before.
And I think it almost boils down to like be authentic.
Right. Because you genuinely had interest in my in monad.
I'm going to I don't have to train my brain to say monad.
But you had to genuinely have interest in monad. I'm going to, I don't have to train my brain to say Monad, but you had to
genuinely have interest in Monad and do your research, have those connections with Alpha,
actually be the individual that you are, where you can request up. They add you up on stage.
They listen to you when KBN Mutes and says, Hey, why haven't you guys started talking to tunes?
And so you were, you were ready ready you were prepared for the opportunity you were
being authentic you were you were being prepared making sure you were prepared and then you were
actually extending that olive branch right jumping up on stage sending that corporate dm you know
that we hate but that's how you get conversations started and then you get to you know hopefully get
closer relationships later uh but that's how it's done. It's like be authentic, be prepared, and then actually shoot the shot.
So I think that there's a lot in your story that people can pick up on
and hopefully use in their strategies of getting their foot in the door.
And sometimes and often there's a reason that that phrase is popular, right?
Like getting your foot in the door.
Because once you can get that foot in the door, you know, you can kind of wiggle.
It's a lot easier to wiggle yourself in than it is if the door is just closed in your face.
So create opportunities.
Be prepared.
Be authentic.
All lessons we can learn from Miss KB.
Now, KB, you got your foot in the door.
You were ready.
You jumped up on the space.
You got the conversation going.
Now it's interview time. So what are some some tips what is some advice you have for people listening
whether it be on interview questions you might hear or ways that they can prepare to go into the
interview and be successful oh man i never really got interviewed i don't't know. That's good insight.
That's good insight, too.
I was with Kuru.
I was interviewed.
But even with Kuru, too, it was, again, when you're...
It's hard to say this without sounding like an asshole.
But when you're good talent and you're sought out after, it's almost like the company's interviewing for you,
right? And like, but then there is like etiquette that you need to, because like, you can also like
mess it up and be like, oh, you know, obviously go to interview, like, clean and proper, you know,
go in with like knowing what you're doing. I think there's like both sides to this, right?
knowing what you're doing. I think there's like both sides to this, right? And so, you know, I was,
I don't even have a resume. Like, that was another thing that you had in your questions,
like, I don't even have a resume. And it was, you know, I, the whole thing was like, so seamless.
And it was like, okay, like, you know, I'm like, all right, well, what, like, what is, you know,
what are we working for? And what are we doing? And like, what is your position? And so like you know I'm like all right well what like what is you know what are we working for and what are we doing and like what is your position and so you know just be like as honest
as you can for like what you want to do right like um part of my position was like being and
you can fake it till you make it but you also like want to be like honest with people right
and so like you know part of my uh job is being on the Discord. I'm like, hey, listen, like, I will do it.
But like, I don't know anything about Discord.
So like, I'm not gonna, I can't set this up.
Yeah, fucking soul style's like, yeah, she doesn't.
Like, I can't set this up.
Like, you need top notch security.
Like, you know, so like, there's like, definitely things that I was like, I can do that for you, for sure.
definitely things that I was like, I can do that for you for sure. But like, you need to like do
But like, you need to like, do this for me.
this for me. So yeah, I think like, just know what you're going in for. And also like chat GPT is
your best friend. Like, you know, you can ask chat GPT, like, you know, just little tips and
tricks. And I think people, you know, definitely don't, don't obviously write a resume. We just chat GPT.
Like you got to give it some of your personality, but, um, but yeah, I think I always just go
into interviews like myself and, you know, you can't be, you got to be confident.
And I know that's like really hard because it can be really nerve wracking.
Um, so it might be like really shit advice on my part. But yeah, I don't know. I just
was kind of thrown into all of it. So if you're, you know, if they want you, they want you. And so,
you know, definitely just have confidence in yourself, I think.
Well, confidence for sure. And I think one way, one place that confidence comes from
is like self-awareness, right? So like, if you're again, genuine and authentic and you
actually care about the team you're going for, and you actually are capable to do what
you got to do then, and you have that self-awareness, then it should be that much easier for you
to be confident, right?
The other thing you noted is like, you don't even have a resume.
In your specific unique case, they were almost pitching to you, right?
They were very interested in you.
They saw what you could do, what you were already doing without being paid, and they
saw where you could add to the team.
In my experience, I think a little bit too many people think that they can get away with not having a resume if they're like really going for it.
And that isn't the case for you.
Like you said, it kind of fell into just being yourself.
But I think people listening should consider, again, back to that self-awareness.
How big is your account?
How much engagement are you really getting?
You know, maybe you used to get a bunch of, do you show up to events?
Do people know you?
Are you welcome on spaces stages?
And for every single team that you're going for, those things are going to matter at different levels.
And only you are going to know.
You're going to know better than anybody.
So just be self-aware.
Don't be big-headed.
And then be ready to humble yourself too, right?
Like even KB said when she went for Kuru, there was still an interview.
There's still formalities that you have to do. Don't put yourself above things, right? Like even KB said, when she went for Kuru, there was still an interview, there's still formalities that you have to do. Don't put yourself above things, right? So
great advice. Now, we're about halfway through this space, by the way. Shout out to everybody
for listening. Shout out to our incredible guest, KB. Shout out, Teacher, Jessica. Shout out,
Iceman. Shout out, Diggy, Sunwind, Moon, Blessing, Sid. Shout out, Iceman. Shout out, Diggy, Sun, Wind, Moon, Blessing, Sid.
Shout out to the cats, Drakey, Two Time, Sham, Slow, Brother.
Everybody listening, anybody listening to the recording, anybody on YouTube or Spotify, we appreciate you.
And we will start accepting people to jump up, join the stage, ask any questions, contribute.
I know a bunch of you listening have experience in this world as well and have something to add.
But if you have something to ask, we'd love to hear from you also. Moving forward, where are we at?
What are some good ways to negotiate an offer, KB? I have a feeling this ties to like self-awareness
as well. What are some tips that people can keep in mind
when it's finally time to negotiate that offer yeah I think um like stand stand your ground
and like you know always shoot higher they're gonna negotiate lower or like you know um stand
your ground you know this there isn't as much talent in this industry as you would think.
And like companies need, like in my line of work, at least in like marketing, community lead, like,
you know, these things, I can't speak on like developers or devs or anything like that.
That's a whole different thing. But at least in like my line of work, like what I do,
you know, like they need kind of like guerrilla marketing, like boots on the ground,
DGENs, and there really isn't as much as like you would think there is that are good and also that
are like, that have a good reputation. So like, you know, and work out a deal, like work out a
deal where over time you can grow your salary increase with, like, performance
reviews. While I don't necessarily have a traditional resume, I do have a baller performance
review on my performance over the year with analytics and, you know, connections and things
that I've done over time for Kuru. And so then and then back into like
what I was saying before, like, chat GPT is also your best friend. In these situations,
you always want to have something written out. And so it can write in a professional manner and
create contracts for you for exactly what you're looking for. And so it's like, I want this number with
this equity over time. And like, I want like these reviews, and be able to increase by that time,
because a lot of the time, you know, if you're working for a startup, there may not be a revenue
stream, right? So like, you have to take that into consideration. So always, when you're negotiating
your price, make sure that like, if they can't pay what you want, and or like, if they're essentially giving you some, you know, like a trial period, just make
sure there's always room for these performance reviews so that you can grow your salary over
time as well. Yeah, that's a that's a great tip. I remember when it kind of hit me that I could do
that, right? That like, that's kind of the alternative
to like, can I get paid more? No. Okay. Then the conversation doesn't have to end there. It can be,
okay, well, like, what would you be looking for? What can I show to you? What can I bring to you
as evidence to get me to this point, then to this point, then to this point? Or is that also not
possible or on the table? Because like, you want to know that too they'll tell you um so
really really great tip kb uh moving forward to our theme of the week so every week we try to have
a theme related to getting work getting started in web 3 working in web 3 uh and this week it's
web 2 versus web 3 so kb what are some misconceptions? You touched on it a little bit before,
but maybe you can expand on that. What are some misconceptions folks may have about working in
Web 3? So, I think the misconceptions about working Web three like all right my contract says like 40
hours a week but like that I'm working but there is no like nine to five eight hour days here like
you cannot shut off at 5 p.m and I see this kind of um when people from web two try to come and
work at web three like my my founder, our devs,
all our company partners, like we're all in complete different time zones. I was sending
work DMs at 1am last night. So like, you know, if you can't handle that, then like, you know,
like the work never really stops. And you have to be able to like set aside time for yourself to
like find balance. Like if you don't want to work on the weekends, like set aside time for yourself to like find balance like if
you don't want to work on the weekends like that's that's like okay right but you have to make sure
you like you know it's like I'll get to this but you you know but you can but there's some times
where you do have to work on the weekends or there's some times where like I need to do something
and I need to you know I need to work out something with Daniel, who is like, you know, my right hand man assistant, you know, mod and crew. And, you know, he's in Indonesia. So like, I have to be up
at 1am working some shit out with him. So that I he can like, you know, do it while I'm sleeping,
and I wake up in the morning, and then I get to it. So like, you know, that I think that's probably
the biggest, biggest misconception is that, you know, it's maybe that it's easy. And it, you know, I think that's probably the biggest misconception is that, you know, it's maybe that it's easy and, you know, it's just very demanding and time consuming.
Yeah, that one seems to come up.
I think it might have come up every single time we've done this show so far.
We're on episode five of like just understanding that part of like being a part of this global community is being a part of a global community, which
means 24 different time zones all around the world. And if you want to get things done,
you're, you know, that's not always going to fit between a structured like nine to five,
like you said. So that's definitely one of the, and also I think that's coupled and related
to like another misconception, which we've heard before from our other guests of like,
which we've heard before from our other guests of like,
some people might think that working full time in Web3 is a lot,
maybe even mostly of just shit posting and, you know, modding a Discord.
And that is, that has a place and a role.
And it's definitely important, I would say.
But I would even say most roles are not like that.
And most roles you have to really want to be here, right? If you're looking for something easy,
I don't think that Web3 is going to give you that. But if you're looking for something
worthwhile, and that you get that much more fulfillment out of from still working harder,
but you get X's, you know, exponential more fulfillment, I think, for me, it's worth it.
And like, I love it here. So that's why we're. I think for me, it's worth it. And I love it here.
So that's why we're having these conversations.
So if you're interested, maybe you can get involved one way or another.
What are some nuances to getting hired in Web3 that aren't as prominent in Web2?
Again, you covered a few of them already, but just to double back,
what are some things that may be different
or specific to getting hired in Web 3
compared to Web 2?
I think the biggest one is that
you don't need a college degree
to land a six-figure job.
Okay, what do you need?
You just need to be hungry oh come on give the people a little bit more than hungry you're right you're right but like on a practical level i mean like i i think that um
i mean kind of like everything that I've been saying, right?
Like, maybe I'm like a unicorn in this or something.
But, you know, just, I don't know, being...
What you need is, at least in my line of work, right?
Like, you just need to be a good fucking person and like not scam anybody
like it's so like the bar is so extremely low here and you know that is what I'm saying in the
sense of like you know you don't need like you know all you need to land these like crazy jobs is dedication, commitment, being genuine, and like not scamming people and having like a good reputation.
A reputation here is worth everything.
And then yes, a large account does help.
So like build your account, right?
Like if you're a low follower account like
start building it right start making connections with people and you know do it that way like I
was I had a you know my account was like I think at like 12k or something before monad um it wasn't
you know and so like getting kind of having that power and I don't do like rage baby stuff I don't
do like farming stuff right so like there's a way to grow your account that could be you know
not the best way or like maybe a little bit of a net negative um but you know when you're doing
things like organically like it does kind of help with um with, with, like, the hires and everything, so, um, yeah, you don't need,
like, you don't really need that much experience either, you know, like, just, um, and, and, yeah,
like, anything is kind of, I think this, this space has, like, a lot of opportunity for a lot
of people, and there's a lot of people here who don't want to work and don't have work ethic,
and they are just trying
to make a $10, you know, $10 into a million and like leave. So like, if you have work ethic,
if you're, you know, if you're here to, to, you know, for the long haul and are a good person,
like, I think good things will happen. I agree. Uh, now let's say you have a friend
who has an offer. They kind of fell into it like you. So they weren't out here like, you know, grinding for it and super, maybe super intentionally. But a team, reputable team, sought out to them, saw their talent and put an offer on the table. What is some advice that you would give this friend before they decide whether or not to accept the offer?
that you would give this friend before they decide whether or not to accept the offer?
I think don't sell yourself short. I mean, I definitely have a lawyer. So get a lawyer to
look over your contracts. You know, especially like, I think there's a lot of, again, immaturity
and inexperience, like even for me, right? Like I,
I was a wedding photographer, I'm still a wedding photographer, I still work IRL,
right? So like, this is all very new for me as well. I'm, you know, I don't, I didn't have a lot
of experience. I just had experience in this space. But when you're dealing with big money,
when you're dealing with companies, you're dealing with contracts, like, always like, you know,
find a lawyer, you know, and make sure you know what you're signing, and what you're dealing with contracts, like, always, like, you know, find a lawyer,
you know, and make sure you know what you're signing, and what you're signing up for, and be 100% that, like, you're aligning with this product and this project. You know, you can't, if you don't,
if you're not passionate about something, and you're trying to sell it, then, like, you're just
not going to have a good time. You know, like,
for me, like, Kuru made sense, because like, I, you know, I'm not trading right now, but I love
trading like before, and you know, buying mean coins. And I get it, it makes sense. Like this,
this makes sense to me. I've never staked a coin in my life. So I'm working for a staking protocol,
I just wouldn't wouldn't align for me. So like, you know, just little things like that,
um, make a big difference. Absolutely. Don't sell yourself short. And then like,
just make sure that it's actually what you want to do. Right. Uh, great advice. I've got a couple
more questions. If anybody wants to jump up now would be the time to hit that request button,
join the conversation. Otherwise we are going to start winding down, but Ms. KB, this is our hot sip tip of the day. It's like Web3 Joe, brew, coffee. We've got the
coffee thing going. In like 15 to 30 seconds, what advice, again, you've been giving us nothing
but advice this entire 45 minutes, but like 15 to 30 seconds, top of mind, what advice would you give to people listening right now who want to start or advance their career in Web3?
Read and write, learn, be patient, move slowly with caution, do not quit your day job. Like I still
work full-time IRL and I don't think I'll quit my day job for at least another three years
until I'm like a hundred percent comfortable in my position here. And so, and with that,
like if you are coming from a place of desperation, you're not going to attract the abundance you're looking for.
So, you know, don't be desperate.
Boom.
Banger.
Banger advice.
I love that you started with read.
That's one thing we don't do enough of in 2025.
I know I don't.
We got headphones up here.
Headphone, how are you doing?
Thank you
for joining the stage. What would you like to add? Hi. Hi, guys. I'm Sol Sol. You can call me Sol Sol.
Hi, KB. Happy to see you here, as always, in the spaces. KB, I have a question about being dogs and not be dogs. Do you see any difference
for getting opportunities in Web3
if you are dogs?
Like, you know,
some projects do not trust you
because they don't know you.
They haven't seen your face or your ideas.
Do you think that you got dogs got more opportunities
yeah I do I'm not gonna lie and say no um I think being docs in this space is a very like catch-22
um and it is risky and it's a little, it's like mildly annoying.
Um, but, um, but yeah, I think that when speaking on spaces and being doxxed is probably the two biggest hacks to growing your account because that will separate you into just being
an alt account or being this or being that, right?
So like, you know, people hear your voice, and then they see your photos, and then you go to IRL
events. I think also on the cherry to that is also IRL events. Like that's how, you know,
Gambler and I, like we, like we met IRL, right? Like, so, um, this is probably, like, the, the
formula for everything. Like, every time I go to an IRL event, I get, I get, like, offers, at least
three offers every time. Like, and I'm, like, you know, so that's, and there is something in that.
But, like, I don't think it's, like, impossible, Like Daniel, who works for me, you know, like he works for Kuru and but he's kind of like
my hire essentially, like, he's not doxed IRL, but like, he did dox to us in an interview,
right?
So like, if you are wanting to work in this industry, like you're gonna, you know, you
definitely are going to need to like dox to who you are working for, because like you're gonna you know you definitely are going to need to like dox to who you are
working for because like you do like you you want that connection and you don't want to work for
somebody who isn't doxed either and you want to give like you know you're gonna have your contract
like I'm fully contracted like all my info address all that good stuff so like you know it gets to a
point and when you're working and who you're working for. So like, be careful. Are you, would you work for somebody that you're not comfortable giving your information
to? If you're not, then you probably shouldn't work for them. Right. So like there, you know,
that's kind of a big thing. Um, but I do respect people not being docs. Like, but there's plenty
of people though, that are docks on the timeline that
have like full-time jobs here though so it's not like the all-in like you don't have to just to
get these opportunities but um I think in the beginning for me I docked pretty early on
it was probably a big help
you're right now I get it when you told us you need a lawyer you just check all the contract
with your lawyer because this is pretty sensitive having your information through the web 3 is a
little bit risky and yeah you you just made a perfect decision for that thank you
yeah great great question uh sol. Thanks for coming up with that
one. I'm going to save that one for future episodes because it's a really good question.
And great answer on your end, KB. We're winding down, gang. If anybody wants to jump up,
hit that request button. Now would be the time. Shout out to our friends listening, teacher,
Nikki, Kells, Jessica, Diggy, Iceman, Moss, Shoutout, Sun, Wind, Moon, Blessing,
Cats, Slow, everybody listening, we appreciate you being here.
We are getting to the final few minutes.
KB, we're winding down.
Any final thoughts?
You've given us so much game, so much insight in these last 45 minutes or so.
Any final thoughts you'd like to double click on or highlight before we get up out of here?
Um, my final thoughts.
Also, I did write something here that I thought was interesting.
But yeah, be careful what you um yeah be careful what you tweet
be careful what you tweet uh don't create enemies and don't scam and know your worth
the reputation is everything and also like this is a very small space so you never know who you're being mean to. You never know, like, you know, any of that
stuff. So treat this as a small town, right? And you never know who someone knows. And, you know,
just be respectful, especially to women in Web3. There's, you know, that's such a corny statement,
but there isn't like a lot of us here. And I also know there's a lot of cultural differences,
and, but that doesn't really make an excuse for behavior. So if you do come from a different culture, right, and you want to
make it in the space, understand that it is a global industry. And while maybe some things are
okay in your world, it may not be okay in other people's world. And so you know not don't only learn about crypto like
just learn about like self-awareness and learn about worldwide culture and um respect in
this industry because like as a you know a woman with some power right and some status right um
some power right and some status right um there is that you kind of run into unfortunately and
um i will never react on the timeline but i will always send out a a silent army
to kind of destroy you from within so just be be weary. Be mindful, ladies and gentlemen, be mindful on the
timeline. Be mindful at IRL events. Keep your hands to yourself. Remember that global community
that we're talking about. Your culture is beautiful. All our cultures are beautiful.
When we come together, we want to do our best to make all of us feel comfortable
and welcome so we can all benefit to this dope thing we got going here right so we can get more
kbs and more amazing people like teacher and nikki and and jessica and all these amazing people out
and uh us contributing to the greater good as corny as that sounds and of course in the final
minutes we do have a hard stop in about five minutes but we got a few new speakers on stage and i want to do my best to get to all of them uh let's throw it over
to blade then we will go sarah then slow blade how are you doing thanks for joining us what would
you like to add i'm great well i was doing great until you shouted out everyone but me and i was
like yo what the fuck i need to hop on the stage tell them i knew that's what it would
take i knew that's what it would take blade so now that yeah i got what if you thought of the
conversation you're getting a lot of thumbs down let us know how's that making you feel
bro i'm used to it you know i'm saying like kb and her army that she threatened everybody with
bro that army comes for me on there daily every day i wake up and i see death threats from them
you know what i'm saying and i'm still here i'm still standing wait deserved is kb gang
is kb gang stalking you bro kb is a gang leader you guys just don't know about it gang leader
nah dude that's crazy i just wanted to make a comment on on her gang stalking threat that it
was very based and uh i'm interested
in the dynamics of that like what sort of situation she has uh orchestrated for that
very base kb uh good job with the gang stalking that's all all i had to say
to piggyback on acer as if stalking wasn't scary enough now we have a new we have gang stalking well gang stalking
is like different like usually it's people who um are like paranoid psychotics when people say
like there's two like there's internet gang stalking which is like actual to mansplain this
i'm sorry if you already know it sounded like you didn't so that's why there's like gang stalking
where people are crazy and they think they're being like followed by the fbi when like really no one cares about them and then there's gang stalking like you actually
orchestrate a bunch of people to like fuck with somebody online uh very subtly and it sounds like
that's what kb is doing in that space good job kb
sarah uh is that accurate i feel like you you might have some insight here. No, it's accurate and deserved.
Are you a part of the KB gang? I don't know if you can share that with us or not.
No comment.
This is turning into an episode of Gangland. We're going to have to cover you guys.
I love it.
Sham, how are you doing? Thanks for joining the stage. What would you like to add?
Yeah, I'm just a guy from another country that KB is talking about.
So I'm the gang from overseas.
So don't fuck with KB.
But KB, when are you going to come back to Singapore, man?
I know.
I think...
Come back.
I know.
I had to come back.
There's something going on with Monad.
But I don't think I'm going this year.
Maybe next year.
We're trying to wait until Mainnet, you know.
And then I think once Mainnet hits and we're live,
we'll probably be doing a lot more trips.
When event in the United States?
I know, I know.
We need more people.
Really?
I'm down, Sarah.
We can plan something.
I think, I mean,
there has to be some type of mainnet event,
probably like in Neatwick or something
is what I'm assuming,
but I know nothing.
I know nothing.
Okay.
That's fair.
All right, ladies and gentlemen,
JPEGs and meme enjoyers, KB gang and non-affiliates. Thank you for coming out. This has been Cup of Joe with Web3 Joe, episode five, with none other than the legend, Miss KB Crypto Baby. Make sure
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And again, shout out to all the legends that join the stage as well.
Everybody listening to the recording.
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We will be back this Friday at the same time, 930 a.m. Pacific, 1230 p.m. Eastern.
Until then, ladies and gentlemen, on losing you.
Old complications come too soon.
Wait, it was just hanging.
I guess I'll hold on to.
Damn.
The people that know my face,
here that I won't forget.
Too soon, I can't keep on losing. Thank you.
