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DAZZAβS Back π Come Catch Me Up on What Iβve Missed on X ?
Recorded: Sept. 16, 2025 Duration: 3:42:16Space Recording
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What's up, Fitz? Hello, Ellie. Hello, Dominic.
Nice to be back. Dominic, give me a thumbs up if you can hear it, okay?
I'm just waiting for the car.
Yeah. What makes you journey into the night and take a light on the school of beautiful blessings?
Hello JP. And if you had a mutual flood, you'd want to show up.
That's how you try.
If you couldn't end yourself, I know the life of you.
Applying entrance to the temple is hard to face.
Trept through God's mistaken elements because the reward is well worth the journey.
Stay steadfast in your pursuit of light.
If the light is knowledge, do you want it?
And if you had it with your glory? You stay true to your quest, select a beauty that is in the musical universe and go through.
Be charged with spirit. Purify your mind. Touch your soul. And to give you the eternal joy and happiness you truly deserve.
You now have the knowledge. Do you want it? And if you had it with your foot on it,
well then you feel it.
If you just don't decide, I'm going to go with the routine.
If some fire runs within your home,
it's not with yours.
If you couldn't end yourself, I saw the life of it.
Oh, wow.
That's right, Lele.
Exciting, everybody.
I'm trying to invite Lele.
Come up, Dom.
How is everybody? It's been a while five five weeks five weeks guys five weeks i
know how did i cope i don't know how i cope i i cope because i just knew that it was just
supposed to happen i knew that it was the universe's way of telling me, you just need to stop and take a break
and stop absorbing all of this madness and this chaos.
For me, for that to happen on my birthday,
I was just like, yeah, I'm done.
I'm done.
If it's an attack, I'm done.
I'm not even going to allow it to affect me, upset me, whatever.
I really appreciated the time away.
I really took the time to process, heal, grow,
shift perspectives, work out, you know,
when I come back, how am I going to move?
You know, and AJ's always saying,
you've got to move with purpose,
you've got to move with purpose.
I feel like, yeah, he's right. I probably wasn't really moving with purpose. Do you know what I mean always saying you gotta move with purpose you gotta move with purpose as long as i feel like yeah he's right i probably wasn't really moving with purpose do you know i
mean and definitely coming back i'm gonna make sure i move with purpose but i also wanna you know
not compromise myself i was always that person who tried to bring people together and even if
people you know don't necessarily recognize that see
that appreciate it value that that's on them i'm not gonna allow that to compromise me like i see
there's been even more division even more divisiveness you know i norwood's a very close
friend to me on here and i know norwood gets affected when a lot of these political things start happening in the country and you know I just really want a space where you know people can just share
and update me catch me up on where they're at where spaces is at just bring whatever that's
why it's not really got anything in a title like I'm kind of glad that I wasn't here when the
Charlie Kirk thing happened because I'm such a sensitive.
I would have been hearing Norwood in the spaces, cussing people, shouting, swearing, whatever.
And I'd have been like, oh, my God, he's really affected.
Oh, no, I'm sad.
I would have heard, you know, people like Rachel crying.
And then I probably would have been here wanting to cry.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it would have just been too much.
It would have just been too much it would have just been too much so i i'm glad that i wasn't here for that impact but i'm grateful that i've been
brought back to allow people to you know process the best that they can because i feel like that
is a part of what i do so i know aj is kind of moving around, busy doing what he's doing.
So he will come in when he comes in.
But we've only got Norwood for about 30 minutes.
So I really want to hear from Norwood and say, hi, Norwood.
It's good to be back, man.
What did I miss?
OK, well, first of all, because I genuinely care about you, I want you to know I owe you an apology.
And I'm going to give it to you and then
I'm going to tell you why. So Darren, I'm sorry. And here's why. When we were in your birthday space,
I had a dinner I had to get to. And if you remember, I said, I can only be there for like
the first hour. And you were bumping right up to that hour. And I was waiting to like say goodbye.
and I was waiting to like say goodbye and you were talking and I didn't want to interrupt you
so I was waiting and then the space went dead and I was like this MF-er has cut the space off
his phone's died or something and I got like so upset I was like damn it I was like man screw
this and I was almost leaving I was like no it no, it's Darren. It's his birthday. I had my girlfriend. Like, my girlfriend was dressed and ready to go.
And I'm making her wait on me, which is not a thing in my world.
So she's waiting on me, right?
She's out there stomping her foot.
I'm like, babe, it's Darren's birthday.
Just he'll open the space back up.
I'll just jump in first and say goodbye.
And then we can go, right?
And so the space never opens.
The space never opens.
So I go to the DMs, and I send you a DM, what happened?
And, like, you don't respond.
And I'm like, oh, man, his phone's, like, really dead.
So then I touch on your PFP to go to your page, and it's suspended.
And I was like, oh, my gosh.
But literally, dude, I waited for, like, 15 minutes for you to reopen the space so I could say goodbye to you.
And I was getting more frustrated with you that you wouldn't open the space.
And then you went through like a banishment for a month.
So I'm sorry.
I got mad at you.
I didn't know what was going on.
But I'm glad you're back.
I'm glad you're back.
I'm glad to be back. I'm glad you're back. I'm glad to be back.
I literally just kind of got kicked out again.
I don't know if it's the app or if it's my phone.
I think my phone has got to that point where it just needs an upgrade.
I think it's just getting a bit screwed.
But luckily it didn't, you know, crash the whole space.
But what was you saying?
Let me just recap that you was pissed at me when it wasn't my fault.. But what was you saying? Let me just recap that you was
pissed at me when it wasn't my fault. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah. So I had somewhere to be, if you remember, and I can only say for like an hour and you were
talking as I was having to leave. So I was waiting for you to stop so I could say goodbye to you.
And then the space died. And so I waited and like made my girlfriend wait to like come back in and say happy birthday to you and blah, blah, blah.
And she's like, babe, let's go.
We got to go.
I was like, I know, but it's I'm like I would leave.
But it's this dude that I care about.
It's Darren.
It's his birthday.
So he'll open it right back up.
I promise.
So we waited and waited and waited.
And finally, I sent you a DM.
You didn't respond.
Then I touched your PFP and it said your account was suspended.
And I felt so bad. I was like, what happened? And like Derek immediately opened a space trying to
figure it out. People were like DMing everybody. And I'm like, what in the world? Like, how is this
possible? And so then I went to dinner that I had to go to and then came back and that's when we
were on the phone at WhatsApp afterwards. And you told me, you know, that it was true. I was like,
oh my gosh. But it was like, and then, you know, it it was true. I was like, oh my gosh, but it
was like, and then, you know, it's X, so like the conspiracy theorists are like, oh, you know,
this is a plot because of blah, blah, blah, and like before you know it, like, you know,
it's, yeah, it was crazy. Like, anyway, I'm sorry. I got really aggravated with you, dude,
because you got kicked off Twitter, and I thought that you just couldn't get your phone to work. Like, right now, I'm trying to apologize and your stupid phone isn't working. That's exactly what I'm talking about. It was not that far afield for me to think that it was your fault because you can't even make it through my apology without your janky phone breaking down. Anyway, welcome back.
do my apology without your janky phone breaking down anyway welcome back
oh thank you sorry i'm cracking up see that that's why i said even it's only 30 minutes i
need norwood here norwood such a big part of my journey he was the first person where i was doing
consistent spaces with and they were spaces on race and norwood can you understand why i kind of
pulled back from it because I'm not in America
and being a sensitive I could just feel that this is a little bit over my head even though I'm a
black person right and I look at the situation in my country we had a march Katie's here Katie
can tell you how that went with Tommy Robinson 150,000 people far right in London saying, go back to your country.
And I'm just like, shit, I'm born here, man.
And to be fair, it's not really aimed at me yet.
I think it's more like against Islam and everything, but that's scary.
And then I think about you guys and how divided your country is.
And that's why I just felt like I had to take a step back from the race spaces. But I'm going to ask you now as you're here, Norwood, you're in America. Do you think that those spaces that we were doing when I started here over a year ago now is required? What do you think?
I mean, I think that it's a great thing for you to offer. And I also think that you're in the right to guard your own mental well-being while wanting to do that so depending on the cadence of them you know i don't want you to get overwhelmed
um but yeah i mean i i thought they were great um i thought that you know we kind of scratched
on some interesting like points of view that were able to be aired that typically couldn't be aired.
And I think, you know, if you remember, one of the things we would say is like,
we kind of cracked the code because it's like a white guy and a black guy, but you're from England.
So like you can kind of get away with some ignorance and then I get away with some ignorance,
but then I can kind of use you as a shield because you are technically still black. So like the black guys on my side, when I say something honest about my own ignorance
as a white person, that a lot of times doesn't get the, get any kind of grace and not that I'm
expecting it, but it's like, if you want to hear my reality, this is my reality and I'm bringing it to you honestly.
And I think the approach that we had towards each other allowed other people to do it. So
yeah, I mean, I thought they were great. That's why I was willing to do them with you.
And I also know that they weigh very heavy on both of us. So like if you want to do them every Monday night, I'm out.
That's too often.
You know, a once a month kind of thing or whatever.
You know, I think that's great.
And, you know, some people got pretty excited in them sometimes because they really like
it's a really odd venue to be in if you're genuinely having an open discussion about an individual's reality
whatever that might be because it's so hard to off-board your perception of that person's reality
because of your own and it it takes a lot of um uh leeway or uh you know, slack to let someone else talk and really sit there and remain
in a state of reminding yourself that I'm asking this person to tell me this,
so I need to ingest it as objectively as possible. So, I mean, I'm up for it.
I mean, I'm up for anything.
You know me.
But to speak on what you were talking about with Charlie last week,
you know,
I was in a space when it happened
and I had to immediately get out.
Was you in diligent space?
Yeah, yeah.
I could tell
it was just so it was just so overwhelming that at like i couldn't even i couldn't even process it
like so could you imagine me you know how sensitive i am could you imagine me absorbing all of that
the universe protected me from being there it would have been way too overwhelming for me.
Yeah.
I actually took the next day off work.
And I'm not on Charlie's side of the aisle.
And it was just unbelievable.
Like, it was just absolutely unbelievable.
And I haven't really spoken about it because it's not really it's not it's not really something that in my in my opinion, I need to like dissect for other people.
But I will say this, like anyone who can hear me right now, you can check my pinned tweet and also check how long it's been there.
It's not something that I threw up recently.
If you tell me who you are and you're consistent, I have so much respect for that.
Regardless of your views, you could be a nun.
You could be a terrorist.
You could be a farmer.
You could be a farmer you could be a doctor like if like whatever it is if that's who
you are and you're that way consistently and you're willing to have an open dialogue about it
like i have such great respect for that even if i totally agree with you and even if i think you're
absolutely insane like if you're on either end of the
spectrum or anywhere in between like i like that is the most valuable thing to me because now i
know who i'm dealing with right and and i'm gonna return the favor like i'm gonna be me
and i'm gonna sorry there's some i think there's somebody is that margaret an amazon package
if you hear my dog yeah that's margaret that's margaret barking at the amazon guy um i have a
20 pound mini australia shepherd who thinks she's a full-grown lion um but yeah like i was i mean i
just like yeah and really i don't i don't i don't know if I'll ever really have an in-depth conversation about how I felt that day because it was just everything like, you know, that's somebody's dad.
That's somebody's hero. That's somebody's friend, you know, and it's a guy that regardless of what you think about him, like not only was he consistent, but he was asking for you to have a conversation with him.
And it's on a college campus, which in the U.S., you know, like, a college campus should be safe physically and very violent intellectually by design. It is set up for us to have a safe place to come together and let
all the points of view come out. And for it to be reversed in a setting that is designed for it,
is just, yeah, it was a lot. It is a lot. And it will be a lot for a long time. And it really devastated me.
I mean, I just had to hang up on diligent. I was like, I got in the space, like right as I found
out. And then we got the news that he had passed. And I was like, man, I got to go. And like, I mean,
I probably cried for an hour. And I've never agreed with Charlie Kirk on anything except except his worldview of be consistent and let's have a conversation.
And I'll allow that to happen. And it's just yeah, it's just heartbreaking.
Absolutely heartbreaking. Yeah, no, I agree with you.
heartbreaking yeah no i agree with you there's i didn't know much about him i think in the uk
especially if you're not like that much into social media and that you're not necessarily
going to know about him a lot of people in the uk have been like well i didn't know anything about
him but we do now kind of thing like the whole world knows about this guy and even if you don't agree with what he said no one deserves to
go out like that and i'm a black person i'm a gay person there were a lot of things that he said
that were very anti-black very anti-gay like yeah they were right but at the same time i i wouldn't
be celebrating like you see a lot of these people celebrating like that really kind of exposed the
darkness in their heart so it's it's a real weird time where so many things are just being brought up
um to our faces isn't it Nathan put thumbs down why do you put thumbs down Nathan what did I say
wrong I'm gonna try not to be sensitive that's what I'm gonna say like Daz was back yeah call
me Dazza yeah Darren was the sensitive one yeah I'm done say like das was back yeah call me dasa yeah darren was the
sensitive one yeah i'm done with all of that like that just made me way too much of a target you
know i would say it's true and and you know that norwood you you you said that to me norwood i said
that to you yeah well because because it's um it's it's one thing to be empathetic, and then it's another thing to allow somebody to beat up on you or to pull you down out of your own empathy because you're so empathic.
But I want to go back to the celebrating thing because this is the way I process this, and then I'll let others go because I don't want to dominate the space.
So being from the U.S., I was just about to graduate college when September 11th happened.
And from our perspective in the U.S., Osama bin Laden was enemy number one.
It was undoubtable.
I mean, I'm sure there's a minority of people out there that followed him and whatever.
But like the majority of the world agreed that that was a horrible person.
OK, so like in my lifetime, I would say that that would be the greatest example of like the most universally denounced person.
And my government killed him. Okay. And when Osama
bin Laden died, I didn't celebrate it. Like it was a relief that this perceived evil to me
was no longer going to attack my country, but I didn't throw a party.
I wasn't out in the street dancing.
I wasn't posting on, I think Facebook was around barely or MySpace. I wasn't posting on Facebook pictures of him.
That's just to celebrate death or to celebrate the death of somebody.
death or to celebrate the death of somebody. It's very dark. In, in, in joy is just, I mean,
It's very dark.
I don't even know what to do with that. And, and I'm talking about Osama bin Laden. Like it was,
it was a relief because he was out to kill me. Like legitimately that guy wanted to kill me and,
and my countrymen. And he was no longer able to do that. That is a sigh of relief.
But I didn't burn him in effigy or make toys showing him shot.
It's unbelievable whether you're doing that in a non-account
or people that were doing it as themselves.
It was just overwhelming, overwhelming dude, it was overwhelming.
Overwhelming at the reaction.
Totally.
Oh, we lost Bradley.
Okay, I think he had limited time.
Yeah, no, it was totally overwhelming.
And look, he's back here.
Let me just see if I can, because I know he's only got five minutes.
Come up, Bradley, and you can say hi. He's a fellow Leo.
And no, Norwood, thank you for say hi. He's a fellow Leo.
And no, Norwood, thank you for using the space to just
process all of that. I'm just going to
throw the mic to Bradley because he
hasn't got that much time. Go ahead,
Awake Coach.
Bradley, you there?
Is anyone talking i don't know i don't hear him okay maybe he's unable to unmicle let me say hi to everybody who's joined me so far we've got katie on the stage
bryce lelu dominic josh, Fitz, Nathan's in the audience.
See Jeremy's here, Jackie, Sue, Danae, Katie, JP, Ellie.
There's so many faces already.
Del as well.
Yeah.
Share out the space, guys.
It's just a pop-up, isn't it?
I literally just got my account back today.
And there's like, you've got to do a space.
You've got to do a space.
I said, yeah, why not?
Why not?
Just throwing it up there, just being sporadic and random why not why not um let
me just see he's not come back so i'm not sure what's going on there brenda's here love the new
picture brenda let's let's hear from katey then um because i know katey's always uh short on time
so katey's you're happy to see me.
Go on with your bad self, rude boy.
Brr-rup, brr-rup, brr-rup.
I am so pleased that you are back.
I am.
You have been sorely missed.
But also I think that it was a really great reprieve for you.
I wish that we could all be forced somehow into a break for a quick second.
But it's so nice to hear you sounding so refreshed, you know, with a new and different and brighter perspective.
And I've missed you you we've all missed you
there's so much that's been going on on here darren oh my gosh in your voice and i could feel
it when i came you know i was in marlin's space i was i was in coffee and bacon space with alan
and goats earlier and it still just seems like such a heavy
weight on everyone's heart you know yeah well I'm just navigating my own personal
like health situation so I'm not feeling 100% but that's probably why I sound a bit flat
but I wasn't going to miss your space, uh, for anything. So, um, that, that's probably the
energy that you can feel. Um, but, and apologies for that, but, uh, yes, so much has been going
on. Um, but also so much positive has been happening because remember like when you would
hold space and, you know, we were talking about those that were awake and so many more people have now
woken up, which is a beautiful thing.
And communicating more,
which is great about lots of different things.
Yeah.
So I'm just pleased that you're doing okay
and that you're safe.
I also was on Diligent Space
when that news broke about Charlie Kirk,
God rest his soul, God bless him,
and his family.
That was just horrific
because we were literally like, what is going on in real time?
But, you know, it just goes to show that life is precious.
And, you know, the amount of people, whether they supported Charlie Kirk's, you know, thoughts or not,
Charlie Kirk's, you know, thoughts or not, the tremendous amount of people that have stepped
forward, uh, in somewhat, I don't want to say protection, but like, like this was a decent
human being at the age of 31, who was a father and a husband. Um, and it wasn't necessary like it it just highlighted the the huge issue that this whole
big wide world faces not just the united states as even in our country darren of um
how are you feeling all right a lot of americans i get that but we're going through our own stuff
in our country that was one thing thing that I realised as well.
Like, it was absorbing too much of my own attention
and I was taking my eye off the ball
with what was happening in my country.
And look at that Tommy Robinson rally.
Did you see the optics?
How many people was there?
Well, yeah, I mean, it was quite a bit more than a hundred thousand um according to
external sources there were anywhere between one and three million people that showed up
um I think that the underlying narrative of everything really is what well of what I understand.
It is nothing even to do with anything other than the fact that
these people in positions of power, whether we're in the UK or the US,
have completely done us all in.
They want civil war, don't they?
I don't think it's they want civil war.
I think that they are Jurassic dinosaurs in positions of power.
Look, we won't make this a political space, but Keir Starmer,
I mean, he was the one that decided not to prosecute Jimmy Savile.
He was the one that put Lord Peter Mandelson as the UK or US ambassador in the United
States, knowing full well that Lord Peter Mandelson was besties with Epstein. And Keir Starmer is the
one, no, Lord Peter Mandelson is the one that took Keir Starmer personally into Palantir.
Yeah, I'm telling you, Darren, we've got lots to catch up on.
And it is just one whole big fat fake illusion.
And we don't want to, us as we, the people, should not be controlled by fraudsters and elites
that think it's OK to do horrible things to our children.
So I know I've obviously diverted away from the Tommy Robinson march and so on and so
forth it's all connected it's all connected I just think that with I don't really know much
about Tommy to be proud of their country
and there were many people of all different races,
you know, religions, everyone from all sorts
that were there that are British
wanted to make a peaceful stand to say,
well, we're British and we're not going to be fobbed off
by you lot
anymore as in you lot as in the government that's what I took from it um but I yeah I mean who I
don't know I just it's a frightening world and place to be in and then just quickly Darren on the
topic of you posting um spaces on uh you, race and so on and so forth.
I think it's so important.
Obviously, it's entirely up to you.
But your voice carries such volume.
And it's important to, and I know it's so scary.
I mean, look, I never speak about me being Jewish I mean I say I'm Jewish
but like I eat bacon like whatever um and I'm not religious but I am Jewish and I get petrified
to even say that out loud I can't believe I've said it out loud on a recorded space because it's
scary doesn't mean that I'm all of a sudden a part of the Mossad or some crap like that but
it's important to have these conversations and to encourage people to be brave and okay in their own
skin and so on and so forth and and to open these conversations to normalize them because the more
we don't speak about stuff regularly or like in a regular tone
the more taboo it becomes if you know what I mean so I'll stand with you my friend absolutely for
whenever whatever you need. Thank you Katie. When me and Norwood was doing those waste spaces there
was something about it where like he said we just
seem to have found this secret combination that unlocks something it's really hard to explain but
I was getting overwhelmed with them um it was a lot and it's like the more you hear from
just Americans not even black Americans just, because I am so connected to
non-black Americans, right? I feel it from each side. And I know that people who are not black
in America are going through a lot of struggles when it comes to race, you know, just different
struggles. And I try to be able to hear both sides you know um but then you kind of get the black
people making you feel like why are you giving them a voice like they they shouldn't and it's
just like no but I'm trying to hear it from their perspective as well we need to be able to
let everybody have their say and that's why me and Norwood kind of come together to do it and
I don't know. I will speak with
Norwood in the back channel, but it does
feel like maybe once a
month, me and Norwood can
start doing that again because there was something.
I feel like we need that space
just to be able to come together and just
speak about this stuff.
So thank you for that, Katie. I'm going to pass
it to Melo B. I didn't even realise she was on the
stage. I'm so happy to see her better be
Darren oh my gosh, it's been so long. I'm so happy to see you on here
AJ Norwood Katie Brett like everybody in this space. I love you all
Yes, this is oh my god. I'm like so happy we're having this conversation
Because that's what we have to do. We have to keep talking.
I've gone through a whole lot of emotions over the past few days here. I can assure you that none of those emotions included celebratory feelings at all.
Um, I, I agree with Norwood, like, regardless, regardless of somebody's opinion on something,
I don't think I could ever celebrate an assassin, an assassination or a murder.
I don't think I could ever do that.
Um, especially because like, it's one thing to have a different opinion, and it's another thing to be, um, to, there's this, there's this weird thing that's happened since Charlie's murder people. But when you really like go and like digest, like actually digest what he was saying and
how he was saying it, he wasn't a man of hate.
He was a man of passion.
He spoke passionately and he spoke very eloquently.
And sometimes there's emotion that comes out when you're speaking passionately about something.
there's emotion that comes out when you're speaking passionately about something we all do it
We all do it.
does that mean that there was like significant like actual hate um i have yet to be proven of that
i would love i actually wouldn't love but if someone can prove that then that would be
helpful um i still don't think i would celebrate someone's murder um but i think like the overarching
murder. Um, but I think like the overarching theme here is divide and conquer, right? Like
it's the oldest war tactic in the book. Keep us angry with each other. Um, I, I sent AJ a message
earlier today and like, I haven't posted these feelings because I, I really think that like processing on my own without like
asking for other people's insight was necessary at the beginning. Like, I don't think it's healthy
to just go and seek other people's insight right away. I think we need to feel our own feelings
first and we need to process inward. Um, and I sent this message to AJ earlier talking about,
you know, we've all been so afraid of this social credit score system being implemented in our
countries. Everyone's terrified of that. They're terrified of social credit scores and censorship.
And we don't, we're failing to realize like we're doing that to ourselves. That's exactly what's
happened. Like social media and being constantly connected with each other in this way. We've
created our own social credit system, essentially. Likes and comments and shares, those are the
points. You know, like cancel culture, that's the repercussion. That's the punishment.
We're constantly giving our data. That's the surveillance. We're constantly being surveilled.
So there doesn't need to be a top-down approach to this like social credit system we've actually just created it
ourselves and what I think happens is when something tragic like this happens I think that
because we all have access to social media and we all have the ability to like share out our opinions so broadly immediately, um, that causes, so like there's
a problem and then that problem leads to chaos. The chaos being that nobody knows how to process,
nobody knows what to say, what to do. Some people are hiding their truth. Some people are sharing
their truth. Um, and we just land in this place of chaos, right? And that's where we're currently at.
And then what happens is a solution is proposed. That's where the top, that's where the elites
get involved in this social credit system that we've all created. So they'll say, okay,
there's all this chaos. People are going online and celebrating and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So now we're going to propose a solution. And the solution, quote unquote,
because I don't think this is a solution at all. I actually think it's like another
tactic of control. But the solution that they're trying to propose is censorship.
They're like, okay, if, you know, people are creating a list of people that have
celebrated, they're, they're like, you're going to lose your job. You're going to lose your life. Like, um, and then we don't even need the elites
to control that. Cause we're doing it. We're literally doing that to each other. And then
we ask them because we, we land in this place of chaos that we can't control anymore. And it gets
out of hand. We then look to them for help. And we're like, do something for us.
Help us.
We need regulations.
We need someone to step in and tell us how to civilize ourselves again
because we've lost it.
And the solution that they're proposing is like a censorship bill.
They're proposing an act called the Charlie Kirk Act that includes this censorship of social media. And
that's actually disgraceful. When you think about it, if an act got passed called the Charlie Kirk
Act, and in that act was a provision of censorship. That is the exact opposite of what Charlie Kirk stood for.
He didn't want censorship.
The reason he went onto these campuses was because he was like, I want to talk about
things.
He wanted people, like he started out saying, prove me wrong.
Like he genuinely wanted someone to go up and prove him wrong,
present to him information that could prove him wrong. Right. So there's no censorship in that.
That's complete open dialogue. And that's what he stood for. So the fact that they're trying to pass this in his name and censor people, um, it's like, it would actually be disgraceful and another thing I will say is
you like the answers that everybody's looking for like because we all go online the very first thing
we do when these things happen is we all go online and we're like what is everybody else
saying about this because we love this group think thing that we tend to do. It makes us feel seen. It makes us
feel heard. It makes us feel validated. But something that I think, I hope more people
have learned from this, and this is what I've learned from this, is taking a step back. And
like I said before, feeling your own feelings first, deciding what your values are, deciding what your morals are
internally, and then you can enter, you can re-enter the chaos, but you might re-enter the
chaos with a little bit more clarity and with less anger and more, you know, objectivity,
right? If you just take some time to think and feel your own feelings
and figure out what it is that aligns with your values, right? So that's how I feel about this
whole thing. Yeah, I absolutely think it's disgraceful if this bill gets passed. So
that's where I'll land my plan. And Mela, you said something great,
the problem, reaction, solution. That's the name of the game with the elites. And there's no right
left stuff. Nobody should be going around talking about right left. If anything, over the last 10
years, you should know that the right and left, they are the same animal, funded by the same
people, funded by the same organizations. And look, we're going
to see a lot more of this. I hate to say this. Why? Because this drives us to the internet.
And I think the biggest problem we have is not the deep state. It's not the cabal. It's not the
right. It's not the left. It is these phones and the control they have over all of us. We have
people on here 10, 12 hours a day.
That is something that we really have to try to figure out.
Am I right with that?
I think the biggest problem is-
I think you're a longer agent.
You say 10, 12 hours.
I think some people, like you said, 15, 20 hours, you know?
Yeah, that's on another level.
So what is this?
Why do we have these cell phones in our hand?
I tell everybody this story.
We used to have news from 5 to 7 p.m.
By the time you watched it for those two hours span, you were like, this is the worst world we live in.
What the hell is this?
But you forget about it.
Now we have these phones in our hands and we're going to be constantly fed, constant, constantly fed all these type of psychological operations.
And even the shooting itself,
it was terrible what happened to Charlie Kirk.
He seemed to be a good guy.
He was talking truth.
He was on college campuses.
He wasn't destroying these people.
I don't think he wasn't destroying these kids.
There was a little back and forth.
But anyway, when you look at the shooting itself,
there's just so many anomalies.
So they learned from the JFK assassination
that you could use that assassination for 60 years
to have people digging, digging, digging, digging.
You could have people on this app digging, digging, digging, but you'll never figure
out what's going on.
And it's leading to nowhere.
And I appreciate the Melibis of the world who create music and make this world a better
place, not for division, but just to bring people together
and to show their talents and abilities.
Everybody has these unique talents and abilities.
Offer them to people.
Get off this app.
Don't get stuck with the division
that we're dealing with right now.
You have a lot of influencers.
The influencers are bought and paid for.
I have friends who fund companies.
These companies fund other companies.
Those companies fund a lot of these influencers.
If you guys knew what was going on, you'd be disgusted.
Because the influencers have to take this information and just feed it to everybody,
feed it to everybody, feed it to everybody.
And I do believe, I hate to say this, but the next thing that goes on,
and then the influencers, it's almost like food for them now.
Yes, now I'll do another space.
I'll do another space.
Let's get more of this information,
more of this information.
It's distracting people from one of the greatest times
in the history of humanity.
The time to use this technology,
not to get trapped in it,
but to use it to leverage it,
leverage your talents and abilities.
People could get far ahead.
Don't get pulled into this.
Don't get pulled into the emotions of this either.
This is gangster stuff.
There's not good people that run things. There's gang that run things if you understand how gangsters work i've been around gangsters my whole life if you understand how they work you
understand how this world works and when somebody gets shot in front of everybody to to uh an
emotional thing you understand that there's reasons behind it that we just don't know but uh you know
i hate offering
my opinions because my opinions usually piss a lot of people off but in the end down the road
people are gonna be like oh man i think i think he was right all along but yeah darren and tom
happy you're back man back from the gutters i was so jealous that your account got suspended
i can only wish i wasn't in the gutter aj come on the gutter um yes if it's okay i'd love to just like say one last thing in
response to that um the pendulum swings back and forth guys the pendulum currently is in this place
where people like some people think that they're in the right but guess what tomorrow they're gonna
be wrong maybe not tomorrow maybe a year from now. That pendulum's going to swing. So there's people that are like, yeah, he deserved it because he
thinks A, B, C. But that A, B, C next year, two years from now is going to change. And it's going
to be whatever it is, right? So if it's not currently you that everyone is pointing fingers at and
hating for their opinion you might be the next one because the pendulum is just going to keep
swinging back and forth they love it they love the divide it's the you know our political system
has literally gone from being part i don't think it ever was you pure, but they are encouraging people to hate and to vilify and to demonize
people for literally just the sheer fact of disagreeing with you. Okay. That's insanity.
Like there is no public discourse. If people just like vilify people for disagreement,
it doesn't make sense. So if that's the case, if you subscribe
to a party, which either or doesn't really matter. And, and it's like teaching you to vilify and to
condemn people and to hate people and to wish death upon people for disagreeing with your
beliefs. I'm sorry, but you're not a part of a political party. You're a part of a cult.
Sorry, but you're not a part of a political party.
You're a part of a cult.
That's exactly what a cult is.
That's how they keep people in cults.
By training their brains, by manipulating their brains,
by running psyops to make them think that if they're not with you,
they are evil, they're villains, they deserve to die.
So it's culty it's gross so how do we do it is how do we navigate this melody what do you say dude i mean
i think the key so okay the these psyops will continue to happen. Like we don't know a history without them.
Okay. So if we think that we're going to stop that, I think we got to be a little bit more,
be a little less naive. We're never going to stop these psyops from happening,
but the way to decrease the effect of a psyop, because a psyop is only successful if it works
on the people, if it works on the people,
if it works on the masses, right? That's the only way it's successful. The only way to decrease the
effectiveness of a psyop, in my opinion, is to be aware, to step back, to stop the groupthink, to,
um, you know, practice being more objective,
to allow yourself to be wrong,
to have these open conversations,
like exactly what Charlie was doing,
like he was trying his best, he had his opinions.
Did I agree with all of those opinions?
Doesn't even matter, it really doesn't matter.
But he was trying to have public discourse
because he knew that if people weren't talking about things and allowing each other to disagree civilly, then, you know, the PSYOP just gets stronger and stronger and stronger and their influence just takes over.
Oh, I mean, when you start to just like see everything from the outside and you're like a bystander looking in and you don't take sides on things, people are going to hate you for it.
I get hate for it all the time. People in my family, people in my friends, they're like, but you can't be neutral on everything.
And I'm like, why not? Why can't I be?
Who told you that you have to make a decision on something that you
have like maybe 10% of the facts about? Who told you that? Because you don't have to. You can
literally say, I don't have enough information to have a fully informed opinion on this thing.
Therefore, I simply do not. I'm simply an observer. Like you don't have to say yes or no to everything someone says
to you. Like it's just, I don't know. It's weird to me that people think that way. Like it,
and I get it. It's a psyop. Like they love it. They want the division because how do you keep
people controlled? You keep them angry with each other they don't need to like i said
about the psyop of social media they literally don't even need to implement a social credit score
system because we've created it ourselves and we monitor it ourselves that's what like i feel like
cancel culture was like the first little test it was like okay we're gonna see if people ostracize each other
so that way we don't have to do it how can you like yeah anyways this shit pisses me off so much
no i get it there's a lot of strong emotions and you know i appreciate being able to hold a space
And, you know, I appreciate being able to hold a space a week after it's happened to allow people to really process that.
I think whilst it's happening, like what Norwood's saying, it was just way too overwhelming.
And I don't necessarily want the whole space to be about this.
I really want to share some of my insights of what kind of helped me shift my perspective.
I started reading The four agreements, you know,
I had this book for ages and there was one day where I think I just woke up.
I come out of my living room, they're just on the floor.
Like, where the hell did you come from? Like, it was just so random.
I was like, okay, well,
I guess spirit's telling me that I better read this book. Right.
So I picked up, I read it within a day, day and a half, maybe.
Yeah. And when we're talking about freedom of speech or even Patriot right now, because I was in Marlins space and that thought came to me.
I literally wrote it down, asking the question, when does freedom of speech cross the line into hate speech?
Patriot's literally got a space. It's got that freedom of speech into hate speech. Patriots literally got a space.
It's got that freedom of speech versus hate speech.
And I think of that first agreement
being impeccable with your word.
I opened this book just to kind of like
read a little bit to you guys, right?
It says the power of the word
is completely misused in hell.
We use the word to curse, to blame,
to find guilt, to destroy. Of course,
we also use it in the right way, but not too often. Mostly we use the word to spread our
personal poison, to express anger, jealousy, envy, and hate. The word is pure magic, the
most powerful gift we have as humans, and we use it against ourselves.
I just want people to really hear that
because that's the first agreement.
And I feel like when we're on these spaces,
all we really have is our word, right?
All we really have is our word.
Charlie Cook, again, all he really had,
he was using his word by ending up him getting shot by it.
It's such a powerful thing.
The other agreements were
don't take anything personal,
don't assume, and
always do your best. That is something
that I'm really going to try and
you know,
emulate, yeah? I'm going to
fall short sometimes.
If you see me start cussing and turning into a bitch,
you've just got to say, Darren, oi, remember
the first agreement? Impeccable with your to say, Darren, I remember the first agreement.
Be impeccable with your work.
And then I'll be like,
Oh yeah.
I want that first agreement in writing.
I want that shit in writing now.
AJ knows what I'm like.
I know my mouth can be foul.
Seriously.
It can be foul.
Josh knows as well,
right?
So I'm learning to not be this way.
I really have absorbed this book and be like,
it's not that I'm going to be fake,
but it's just that I'm realizing just when I go dark with my words, when I go rogue,
that's really hurtful. And then when it's really hurtful to someone else, that can then turn back
onto me. Do you know what I mean? And then it just ends up into a cycle. But if you're impeccable
with your word, if you're loving yourself with with your word and if you're putting words of love out to other people of course you're only really gonna get love back it makes so much
sense to me and i wish that i read this sooner i really want to go to soul law because she um
has had her hand up for a while so can we go over to her oh my gosh go ahead i'm so glad you're back
can you hear me okay yeah okay Yeah, we can hear you fine.
Awesome.
Okay, so much of what everybody has said has been so fucking on target.
This is exactly why they silenced Charlie Kirk.
And this whole last week, they were attacked in their neck.
The girl on the train and Charlie Kirk.
Their throat chakra, right?
Exactly.
This is like, ugh, Mella, you nailed it. Dude, Candace Owens just did
a video about this. They literally did studies on this where they would take strangers off the
street and they would put you in a room with 10 other agents, but you believed that they were just
random people off the street. And everybody got a card and it was clearly a red triangle and you see a red triangle,
but everybody in that room says that it's a square.
So when they finally get to you, that last person who's not an agent and not in on the
project, you're like, everybody's looking at a red square.
I see, or I see a red triangle
and there's a red triangle what the fuck is everybody saying a square for they will say
that there's a square even when it's not what they see just because they don't want to be that
one crazy person to point it out like they they have taken psychological psyops and put it, it's called mass mind control. And dude, I'm telling you,
all of the like Montauk project, like Project Paperclip and MKUltra, they know all of this
stuff. My grandfather was in on half of this shit. But they literally, they hack our dreamscape
as children. They know how to hack our biofield and they get into our subconscious mind through our dreams.
A lot of us were born with these natural abilities to astral project.
And we literally can like think about that movie Inception.
That one girl, she was the architect, right?
She could build the dreamscape, right?
Like some of us can literally do that. She was the architect, right? She could build the dreamscape, right?
Like some of us can literally do that.
Like, and all humans can create in the astral.
But they do that.
They tether in into our etheric body and they put up blocks and they, you know, you get repetitive nightmare loops.
And it just feeds our fear.
And literally, we're going to see more of this.
Absolutely.
Like they have primed us. That's why we all have these phones in our pocket when they're constantly radiating us and giving us cancer and fucking.
They don't care because it's part of the plan.
They need us to be on this drip feed of their propaganda.
Otherwise, their plan goes kaput.
Because they need us to construct it for them.
And to play it out.
It's us literally building our own reality.
So you need to take your fucking reality back.
Like, I'm serious.
You start doing, like, energetic cleansing.
Grounding.
When you first learn astral project, if you haven't done your shadow work and gone through your dark night of the soul,
you're going to see shadow people and demonic entities because they're your attachments.
It's all, they're all your own projections and addictions.
Anyway, so I like to do subconscious reprogramming a lot.
There's great meditations out there.
You just put them on because you have to start exactly.
It's what you put out that you will get back. And the best place to start, most of us, our inner critic is our parents' voice.
A lot of times for women,
it's our father who is our inner critic, the voice that we hear. And you need to start doing that deep
core trauma work and heal your inner child, integrate your subconscious, and really look
at yourself as a whole person, an integrated person, because you, your scars are all there for
a reason. You wouldn't be who you are today if you hadn't have gone through the hardships,
like literally, then you become the diamond, the multi multifaceted, multidimensional diamond,
right? And you have that clarity. When you take all of the walls down around your heart and you live open,
fully open, you can be your own human lie detector. Like, you know, when someone is not speaking
in truth and in authenticity. And, you know, the only way to make money is to sell a lie because the truth is free.
The truth will set you free every time.
So, you know, I actually I've been obsessed.
My daughter wants to be Rumi, the main girl from K-pop Demon Hunters for Halloween this year.
And I seriously love that movie so much because it shows the grid perfectly.
This trio of songstresses, they literally use their voices to sing,
and it creates this vibrational web.
It's a grid.
And they fight demons with their voices.
Yes, and they manifest their light
weapons out of this grid and the grid actually keeps the demons out so that's why the prime
evil shadow force creates a demonic boy band to start fighting them and attacking the fans
because they start mind controlling the fans um but the lead girl is part demon and she was raised to hide it her entire life.
But when she finally embraces it and shows it unapologetically to her fans and her friends and they accept her and love her for it anyway, the grid turns gold and they literally create new diamond earth.
And it's great because you see the fans in the crowd, their heart chakras light up.
And at the very end, they all start humming and singing with her in the final song.
It's so cute.
But it's, I think, really profound and relevant to what's going on and what the collective is going through right
now because you literally are the writer of your own story and they need your you know signature
to sign off on on their synthetic future because when you're a happy healthy you know human being
you can't you can't be fucked with like you just you know um so anyway
I'm sorry I know that was a little bit of a long share everybody said some really really great
things um and I yeah my heart goes out to everybody I know it's been a really really tough
last couple of weeks but um I love you guys and they're trying to they want us all to be racist and against each
other just remember that and i love you don't fall for it no there's a lot there's a lot to process
and work through 100 i i appreciate that i mean for me coming back after five weeks it's just like
oh my god it does feel like a lot has changed energetically. I know Norwood is only supposed to stay with us for 30 minutes,
and he's been an hour already.
He can't take himself away,
but I have a feeling that this hand is him letting us know that he's got to go.
But he's been so patient and so kind being here.
Norwood, over to you.
My hand is up to tell you goodbye because I have to go,
and I waited this one out only because I was waiting to tell you goodbye
on your birthday when
your space crashed so I was like damn it if it crashes before I get to say goodbye I mean I'm
gonna be even more pissed than I was then but it's still glad to have you back uh good to see you
thanks for the invite uh we'll talk later you know about the space you want to do that sounds great
uh I hope everybody has a great rest of their week and uh I'll see you next time Darren We'll talk later, you know, about the space you want to do. That sounds great.
I hope everybody has a great rest of their week.
And I'll see you next time, Darren.
Thanks, Norwood.
Love you, man.
Have a good one.
And I'll speak to you soon.
All right?
Take care.
AJ, who was next?
Oh, man. I am the worst co-host in the game i had two of them for a fight for it i had two of the
biggest co-hosts on on my stage i had norwood and aj and both of them are rubbish at actually
helping me manage but they always seem to find themselves on the worst it's so funny it's all
right aj i've got it i've got it i think we're gonna go to li this. It's all right, AJ. I've got it. I've got it. I think we're going to go to Leeloo
because she's been up here for a while.
And Leeloo's another one
who's really helped me
through these five weeks
get through this.
Even though I don't really think
I needed it.
Like, I was good.
I was just like,
yeah, man, everyone's freaking out.
Calm down.
It's all right.
But I had my...
And thank you, Leeloo.
And thank you, Leeloo,
for helping Darren through this
because he was like, you know,
you were in contact with him.
I appreciate that. I appreciate the people helping Darren in the background.
Because then it gives me less of a headache. But thank you, Leeloo.
I do give AJ a lot of headache. And do you want to know why?
Noor was just gone, right? But let me tell you why.
When me and Noor would first connect, Noor would said to me, he was like,
if me and you are going to be friends, don't and you're gonna be friends don't expect nothing from
me and i won't expect nothing from you as literally what norwood said to me yeah he said don't don't
expect nothing from me and i won't expect nothing from you and i feel like with aj aj's this kind
of person where it's like he just lets everyone be his friend right and he kind of sells you the
world right he's like everyone's like aj's like a salesperson that that is aj so he he kind of sells you the world, right? Everyone's like, AJ's like a salesperson.
That is AJ. So he's kind of like, oh, but bro, you said this and now you're doing that.
It's just that kind of situation, I think, you know? Norwood, I remember there was one time when Norwood disappeared for about two months. And I was like, Norwood, where'd you
go? He didn't say nothing. And I was kind of hurt, yeah? The man said to me, he goes, remember what I said to you?
Don't expect nothing from me.
I won't expect nothing from you.
And I was like, you know what?
He did say that.
And there you go.
There was no hurt.
There was no pain.
So I just want to say it's expectations.
And I've got to also learn to manage my own expectations when it comes to people.
I love AJ so much.
I don't like sharing him.
I don't, right?
I'm just going to put it out there.
And AJ's everyone's friend.
So what are you doing?
He's my friend.
Fuck off.
Leave him alone.
Like, oh, look, I swore.
Josh, I swore.
Slap me.
I'm not being impeccable with my word.
But that's what it is.
And I'll be honest and I'll be open.
But I'm not going to be as sensitive as I was.
I accept he's this, you know, big, grandiose figure.
Everyone loves him.
But as he always says, he hasn't left my side as well.
So I do love you, AJ.
And I am going to try not to give you so much of a hard time.
You are a diamond.
Let's go to Lili.
Over to you, Lili.
Bonsoir, Darren.
Bonsoir, AJ.
Bonsoir, everyone. Yeah.ir, AJ. Bonsoir, everyone.
Yeah, I'm so happy that you're back.
I mean, we've been in touch all the time,
but I think that it is fair.
And I miss you on here
because I told you you are a voice.
I told you you are a content creator
and you are an influencer.
And I think it's really important to say that because not everyone calling himself or herself a content creator or an influencer is.
And actually, back 10 years ago, 15 years ago, with the rise of Instagram and social media,
people did not like to be called influencer because they thought that
they were influencing people because they were just thinking that there was no definition of that
so then they called themselves content creators and now nowadays everybody thinks they are creating
something on raising voices or doing anything but they are not doing anything it's a void and some of them are doing like charlie kirk he was a
political influencer or candace owens also i'm kind of afraid for her because you know afraid
for who candies yeah because i am as well she's on that level, isn't she? She's going, because, you know, first of all, she went after Brigitte Macron.
She's getting sued by them currently, too.
That was what I was talking about.
I did a comparative law case in one of my space because that's my field.
And I explained to my French followers who think she's good and think that Brigitte Macron is a man.
But personally, I don't want to get involved in that story because I think whatever people
want to do, they do.
But I know for a fact, based on the law, that I know that she's going to lose it all because
they are going financially against her.
But that's another topic.
What I wanted to say, apart from being happy that you
were here, that I told you this afternoon, you have the power to hold such conversation.
The conversation we need to have on this platform, especially, that is not doing bans.
Right now, many influencers, I don't remember the guy, the guy that is just like
Charlie Kirk and just like those political influencers raising voices, TikTok is taking
their video down. So we know for a fact that Meta is not on Instagram or TikTok agreeing these kind of topics to be seen by many, many, many people.
X is allowing it. And I'm telling you that because in France, our freedom of speech is based on the
law. So it's not like in the United States, we cannot say whatever we want. We don't have hate speech. You can be sued for that. And I wanted to highlight
this in your space because I feel like I can talk my way, but I'm still being very careful.
And I was listening to Melabi, and it was really interesting, by the way,
And it was really interesting, by the way.
And also to AJ and Norwood and the voices that I've heard, soul lore.
People choose also, to me, in my opinion, to follow.
And I'm telling you that from my French perspective.
To me, they are trying to raise civil war between people in Europe. Yes,
they are. To me, European Council or whatever, they are trying to make a European federation.
They want the United States of Europe. This is not just a dream or just blah, blah, blah from
whoever you think that is raising voices on the Internet.
It's not that. It's just based on the laws.
There have been texts, laws on the European level that allowed many immigrants to come in Europe and it raised violence.
in Europe, and it raised violence. These are the numbers. And the people we saw,
These are the numbers.
like 100,000 people in the UK, patriots, that American words based on American history,
these are the people that are like, you're not going to take our culture away from us.
You're not going to take our sovereignty away from us. But we know
for a fact that they have been building with text and laws, these kind of, you have to be alone
scheme. Like bringing violence and making a lot of people coming from different cultures in European countries,
such as France or such as England, will kind of take the culture of the people that have been living there for centuries.
So they have the patriots calling themselves patriots, fighting for the right to keep their culture,
because they are afraid of the foreigner and they think that he's
stealing their jobs but a parallel to that is that the economy is taking us down France is down
Fitch just said that we were like a negative so nobody will ever buy again our debt. So we are going not to be able to pay the people
that are working for the states.
We do not have hospital like it was.
We do not have education as it was.
We are running our full prime minister
and our president is using the constitution
against what used to be done in the country,
so that the country is just fighting for a survival and the people are lost.
Is it a psyop? Is it a political way with the elites?
I'm telling you, I'm part of the elites.
If you look at my degree and my career, I've been in the political field since 15 years.
and my career.
I've been in a political field since 15 years.
It's my family, left family,
like party socialist, we call it in France.
But I do not have those parties anymore
because I'm just like Norwood,
left, right, far, left, far, right,
all the same to me,
all trying to say what they have.
And now we can see that it's not working anymore. And I'm telling you,
I've been really saddened by the death of this father that was Charlie Kirk. And I love the fact
that he was talking to other teenagers or adults or whatever, trying to use his right to freedom
of speech. But I can also tell you that when I posted something on my profile,
I'm nobody here,
but I said, I'm sad.
People went after me.
How can you?
How could you?
He was this and he was that.
And when I'm telling them
what you are doing is against freedom of speech,
they're just telling me,
no, you cannot agree with this monster.
And Trump is Hitler. And this is on
French national news. And why am I telling you that? Because I said it in other American spaces,
you guys have power and freedom. We don't. And I'm a liar. And I'm telling you that.
And I told Darren. And I see now people in my country fighting for the flag, the French flag. And I'm telling them, you have the right to hold your flag wherever you go. That's the law. And they're like, no, there are forces that are against us trying to steal France from us. No, there's not.
There's not, but it's too late.
And I won't save everyone.
I will, first of all, save me and my family.
And I will try to have that voice that are some people trying to silence me.
But I'm kind of knowing the law, know where to go.
But I can also tell you that on a daily basis in my country, journalists, engineers, people with, you know, just common sense telling things
on social media that are taken by the police because that's our world. So when I'm listening
to you guys saying we need to continue to have those conversations, yes, you do. Not only for
you, not for Charlie's memory or legacy or whatever you think you need to do.
But because we need you to have that anchor and to still fight and to find our way around.
Because, and this will be the end of my too long speech, they are going to do war against Russia.
Everything is going that way.
The law, the prime minister of France,
the new one, the defense one,
who sent, you know,
just want to go to war.
And we know that.
We've seen it.
We just told so many people on this platform,
and thanks to Elon Musk, we can say it.
And what are we going to do with the war? People are going to die, and we are going to be very sad and very alone.
When in that time, what we need is to stand up together.
And there will be people that won't do it. And that's fine.
But thanks to the internet,
thanks to the digital world,
I'm here.
And I can talk to Darren.
I can listen to AJ, to Noah, to whoever's here
and have that breath of fresh air
just like I did when I was in the pandemic,
lockdown,
and I decided to create this AI as Lilou because she had that path on the internet.
So keep on being on spaces held by people like Darren just to have conversation that will show that there will still be hope.
Thank you so much, Lilou, for that. Lilou, I think I have a question Thank you. Thank you so much,
Leilu, for that. Leilu, I think I have a question
for you. Are you afraid
of your job if you say something?
Well, you know,
I'm a lot afraid of losing it.
No, I'm not afraid of losing it
because, first of all, I'm on AI,
but I can tell
you that I've been doxxed twice.
They even doxxed my children.
And they found some stuff about me, but they didn't find me.
And they cannot find me.
So, yeah, I'm not afraid because I know what I'm saying and I know the law.
saying and I know the law.
So, no, you're right, right?
So know you're right, right?
the time and the war
coming, I'm like
being very careful,
to be honest.
Appreciate that. Thank you so much.
That was great. Thank you.
Thank you, Lele.
We've got Santino come up here.
As he says, he, he's all right.
He says he can say hello.
He's on his way to the gym.
I said, you don't even have to talk, Santino.
But I just had Norwood and AJ, two big co-os on spaces,
and I've got another co-o with me.
Santino, it's good to have you here.
Missed you.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm about to leave very soon, but I wanted to come and just show you my support
And I'm happy to be up here
I did miss you very much actually
I want you to know that
And when that happened I was very very upset
I did DM some people
And I was actually really upset and distraught
I couldn't believe that happened to you
Because you're a kind, kind man
And I can't believe
That what
Extent people will go to
Just you know
Whatever but anyway
Thank you so much for having me up here and you know we are going through
Sometimes with social media
And censorship and what we can and cannot say
And where do we go here this is really
A great topic so thank you so much for having me up here
You're welcome
And you know what yeah
i don't even hold in my mind that you know people try to get me off the platform and people reported
me and all of this stuff i've heard from x i never said this in the beginning once again
i never heard this in the beginning like never said this in the beginning but what they've been
saying to me is that they think that it was some inauthentic activity.
I don't know if it was that other account that got made and all of their stuff.
All of that, I'm just like, whatever.
You know, if people are really going to have the time to do all of that, to try and get me off the platform,
it's just like, wow, I don't care who it is not going into
the conspiracies or whatever i think we all get attacked but it also could just be the algorithm
it also could just be the ai you know i think they've changed in the their process the ai has
been doing a lot of the suspensions and what they were saying to me is that they just think that I got caught up
in it I really want to you know come back in a fresh state of mind in a more positive state of
mind I think my sensitivities was really holding a lot of the negative on here and sometimes it
was coming out in my spaces and I don't want to be that way. And for me, with everything that's happening in my country, in Lilo's country, in you guys' country,
I think we really do need to just try and stay as optimistic as we can.
So I'm going to play this track. It's from Sound of Blackness, Optimistic.
We'll just have a little music break and then we'll get back to everyone speaking. Oh Oh, yeah. Music Oh, Oh Oh remember that one sentino i have to hear a bit more sentino's voice i know this guy is the gym
do you remember that chant santino that's an old dude a bit more Santino's voice because I know he's going to the gym. Do you remember that track Santino?
That's so old, isn't it?
I do.
It's a very old song
and I was just listening to it
and going, wow.
It was a great song.
Are you calling Santino old?
Is that what you're doing, Darren?
It's good to be the shit store, AJ.
Well, Santino,
you have very big spaces
and you guys were just talking about music
well santino um you have melo b here melo b is the number one singer songwriter not only on x
not only on social media but i think one of the best in the world right now she has a single
coming out september 26th somebody should shoot it up in the jumbotron if you listen to it you'll
know what i'm saying i just want to give her a a shout out. I'm sure Santino's heard Melo B sing.
Have you heard Melo B sing?
I would love for Melo B to sing me a song
if she's got the time, if she's in the right place.
That would be...
I just wanted to play that track
because I was going through what songs am I going to play?
To whom comes in, I've got a track for him.
And do you know what, AJ?
I've never actually been inspired to do a track for you.
A track will come for you at some point, AJ.
A track will come for you.
But I feel like for me, when the energy just starts feeling heavy,
I'm really able to just break it and transmute it with music.
You know, that's what I do.
Josh, my friend here as well, he creates amazing tracks.
I'm going to come to Josh quickly and then we'll go to Melo B
because Josh has been up here for a while.
I know this is his nap time. Josh and I were very close to Stonk
and I don't know how many of you lot know Stonk, but
he was on my birthday space, right? And all I remember is I
had all these big personalities. Stonk was a big guy, he was a big personality, but
he was just humble, right? I had Santino there, Green Man,
Norwood, AJ, Derek was there.
Southern was bouncing around.
Josh was on the stage.
And I had John Strada from the UFO community.
He could talk for everybody, right?
And Stonk was just there with his hand up.
Never forget.
And then when I was coming to him, and then the space crashed.
And out of everybody, I was just like, shit, I didn't get to hear from was just like shit i didn't get to hear from
stunk i didn't get to hear from stunk and when i was coming back he was the first person i was
gonna message be like bro i really want to hear from you don't come in my space all that time
and what did i hear sadly we lost him on a motorbike accident when josh told me josh
i'm gonna pass it to josh wasn't i not in in bits? I didn't realise how much he mattered to me.
So when people turn around, they're like, it's just social media. It's just social media.
Please don't say that. So many of us are connected. So many of us really have found friends on this app.
And when we lose somebody, what am I supposed to say? Oh, well, it's just social media.
He's not a real person.
He's a real person.
He had a whole heap of children, grandchildren.
And I'm still so saddened by that.
So I needed to stay away as well to process that.
You know, it's so sad.
He was on my space and I didn't get to hear him.
I'm always going to live with that upset as well.
Josh, I'd love to hear from you, and then
we'll pass it to Melody. And Bryce,
I don't know why you're not putting your hand up. I was going to send
you to co-host, but you didn't respond,
so Santino came in and he stole
it away from you. But I love Bryce.
Bryce really got me through all of this as well.
And I'm happy to see everyone here.
Josh, how are you doing, man?
Well, number one, I'm shocked that we're having this space right now.
Welcome back, my friend.
It's good to see you.
It's good to hear your voice.
You always tell me in the back channels, Josh, I miss your voice.
I miss your voice.
And I always miss your voice.
But I'm going to say hello to the ladies first.
Um, LB, it's good to see you beautiful soul. It's good to be, see you. Um, Leeloo, you know,
I love you so much. It's good to see you. Um, and then all the gentlemen in the room, um,
And then all the gentlemen in the room, AJ, what's up, brother?
Santino, it's good to see you.
Bryce.
Oh, they're both Italians, the two Italian co-hosts.
Yeah, well, I have an Italian wifey, so I catch that.
They're fiery, aren't they?
They're fiery.
Oh, I can't put enough uh uh uh sauces on that to
calm the fire down um but um um so just real quick in response uh i was shocked to get the
information darren that you shared with me that you were back online and i saw it and i'm like
what and we was just talking last night, wasn't we, Josh?
Like I said, when it's the right time, it will happen, isn't it?
Hey, it's in God's standard time is how I believe.
In God's standard time, he will provide when he's ready.
And what have you missed on X?
Mostly spaces are even more glitchy than ever. So I'm glad that you haven't had any glitches in this space right now. But you know what, Darren, I agree 1000% what Melody was sharing about the pendulum and that the pendulum is constantly swaying left and right
and how do we find our middle ground and darren you and i have been talking and i'm not even
going to call you darren it's daza now that's ah that's i gotta say it. I don't have the English accent. That's just the carefree, happy-go-lucky one.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, but it's Darren 2.0.
And I'm really excited to see what comes out of this transition
because you and I have talked for a couple of weeks privately
to see where you bring things because you do have a presence.
You do have a presence.
And I want to see where Darren has grown.
And let's see this new version of you.
I'm excited.
Yeah, today, well, not today. This week has been a tough week,
um, for a lot of us. And Darren, I, I, I know,
ah, you're going to make me tear up, bro. Um, you know how important Stonk was to you and myself. My battle. I mean, I called Darren privately my battle.
I'm an army veteran. And if I call somebody my battle, it means something. And Darren asked me
sometimes, am I still your battle? I'm like, dude, once you become a battle and you get that tattooed on you, you're always my battle.
Always.
And I will always show up.
And so Darren knows that this is normally my time where I have to take my sacred rest.
And I'm like, what? It's been weeks. I cannot
miss this conversation. I can't miss it. I have to show up for my battle because that's what
battles do. I got to show up and show support. So Darren, all I really wanted to say to you today
is that I'm really excited that you're back. I'm excited to
experience your growth. And I think anybody that had any preconceived ideas or thoughts,
Darren's a new man, and I can attest to this. Darren's a new man, and he's going to show up
to this. Darren's a new man, and he's going to show up in a better version. Not a different
version, but a better version because he's grown a lot in the last couple of weeks. And I want to
be here to support that and help it grow and help water it. And just because Darren means a lot to
me. If I can share that. Darren, you mean a lot to me.
If I can share that, Darren, you mean a lot to me and I'm going to say it publicly.
You mean a lot to me, bro.
I'll pick Josh.
I know.
And I just, I want to be here for you.
And, um, I know a lot of you, um, in this conversation, you know, you guys are all beautiful individuals. And I think
Sol was saying it. We got to look beyond the dust and let it settle to be able to see clearly with, you know, um, our goggles on that.
I'm sorry, Darren,
I'm getting really emotional because I'm so excited that you're back. Um,
we didn't expect it. Did we? I was just talking yesterday.
Yeah, we were just talking yesterday and I'm just, I'm,
I'm so excited for you you i'm excited for the community
um that we have you back because you are an influence um
i don't know bro you just mean a lot to me so i'm gonna land there
thank you and josh um you mean a lot to him because he's always
thanking you and he was
thanking Norwood, he's thanking a lot of people but he's
like you know I spoke to Josh, he says to do this
and Josh you have great music and you're in the creative
spaces and again I really appreciate
that, these Charlie Kirk things
these things that happen they could tear us apart
or they could bring us together and it's people
like you that help bring us all together, great
and thank you guys for that.
Appreciate it.
You know, before we go to Millipi,
I'll just say to Josh, like,
we've definitely had our ups and downs.
And whenever we lose someone, it really...
Oh, you have ups and downs.
Surprising.
Surprising, surprising.
And I'm still going to have ups and downs.
Like, I'm not perfect.
And I am fiery, but I am going to try and live by those four agreements. surprising surprising surprising and i'm still gonna have ups and downs like i'm not perfect and
i am fiery but i am gonna try and live by those four agreements i will say them again to remain
impeccable with your word to don't take anything personal to not assume and to always do your best
i so wish i read that book ages ago, but you know what? It came at the right time.
It came at the right time. And you know, it's something that I'm going to live by and share
as well to inspire. You know, I think there's so much stuff that gets constellated energetically
on these spaces. I was doing Clubhouse a little bit. I saw Bridget. Bridget's here. Yeah,
Bridget, I was doing Clubhouse. It has changed so much.get bridget's here but yeah bridget i was doing clubhouse it has changed so much i missed x i did but i just knew that i wasn't supposed to be here until i
worked through a lot of the stuff that i was just holding you know i was able to realize i was being
too hard on some people i was being too hard on myself people. I was being too hard on myself. I wasn't doing my best.
You know, there was just so much soul searching
that this time away from X allowed me to do.
And then we lost stunk
and then it just put so much into perspective
because no matter how bad things can get,
you know, you still got life.
And when you have life, there's hope.
Doesn't matter how bad things get, you know.
As long as you have life, you have hope. It doesn't matter how bad things get, you know? As long as you have life, you have hope.
Once that's taken away, it is no more,
and I think Stonks' death, as sad as it is,
and I'm getting goosebumps because I can feel his presence,
it was a blessing for me to come at that time
because it just allowed me to reset,
reset how I move, reset how I present myself in my work,
with my family and with you guys.
And I just knew that the universe will bring me back at the time and it's
right. So I hope you all can feel that.
I'd love to go back to Melody.
Not sure if she's got a song.
And look, we've got skinny up here finding wisdom as well.
It's lovely. Oh my God. Truth is here as well.
Love you, Matthew. He spoke hawaiian to me
today that was awesome melby over to you awesome thank you yeah i would love to play you guys a
song um uh if it's okay first i did want to say something on the topic go ahead and then play a
song up to you cool thank you uh yeah because i i just started like pondering the question that AJ asked me, like, what is the solution, right? And like, that's a very convoluted question. There's so many different solutions. But something that came to mind was like, what is actually happening right now? And I feel like we're being trained backwards out of our human instincts. So like, we're being numbed to violence and cruelty. But then at the
same time, we're being we're being told to be fragile to words and open debate, right? So I
feel like that's very backwards, we should always remain fragile and and terrified of violence,
because that's what, you know, ruins a society. And we should not be
fragile to debate, but actually encourage debate, even if it means we all disagree, because that's
what's built our civilization. Yes, there was violence involved in the building of these
civilizations, but I think unity is the thing that brings people together and actually causes peace,
right? If the violence can't go on forever, in, in order for things to settle at the end of the day, it's conversation,
it's discourse, it's debate that brings us to a place of unity where we can all coexist. Does
that mean that we all have to agree? Absolutely not. That's literally what coexisting is. We are
all going to be different. We all have different journeys. We all have different truths. Our job isn't to figure out how to create one universal truth,
but rather to create a place that's safe for people to live their own version of reality
and their own truth. So that's kind of how I stand on that and that solution. Like,
what does that really look like? I think we're going to have to
stop normalizing violence. Like the fact that I didn't even have to like, I don't know about you
guys, but that video of Charlie popped up on my feed and there was no warning. There was no,
hey, you're about to watch somebody get, you know what I mean? Like I wasn't warned of that. And
I was just shown that like
out of the blue. And I'm like, oh my God, like I, I genuinely felt like a feeling of like being
traumatized by just even like seeing that on my phone. Imagine what the people there felt like,
right? And like, we need to, I don't know, we need to stop making this so normal. Um, my friend came
up to me,
I was at a gig the other day and he's like, he was all shaken up. And I was like, are you okay,
dude? And he's like, um, this was the day. I think this was the day after it happened.
And I'm like, are you okay? And he's like, honestly, someone showed me that video today
and I didn't see it yet. And I can't get the image out of my head.
see it yet and I can't get the image out of my head and like that's terrible that's terrible
I I feel that too like I just I don't know if you guys feel that but like it's been sitting with me
and doesn't I've had like terrible dreams over the past few days so something Leloo said
was it Leloo I think it might've been soul was up here earlier.
Yeah, soul or said something about how they're like
hacking into our subconscious and our dreams and stuff.
And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what's happening.
Like we are being desensitized to violence
or we are being traumatized by it.
It's one or the other.
Some people are so desensitized to it
while other people are just so traumatized
by what's happening. And it shouldn't be normal. We shouldn't, we shouldn't open our
phones and just have that in the palm of our hands. You know, it just shouldn't be normal.
Um, the other thing is like treating disagreement as danger is that's dangerous in my opinion so we need to start
approaching things with curiosity rather than judgment we need to like we can't cancel people
or you know cause people to lose their kids their jobs their lives because we disagree with them
that's so dangerous so I think those are like the two, I guess like upfront solutions that pop to my mind.
But spaces like this is a part of that, literally.
Like Darren, props to you for hosting this space
because I'm not gonna lie to you.
I've wanted to host a space over the past week
because I'm like, oh my God,
like I have so much to say
and I have so much to talk about. And I currently live in this weird place where I, I have a lot of
opinions, but I'm so terrified to say them. I'm not scared here because I, I just feel, um, like
you guys hear me and you understand and yeah, sure. It's recorded. People could go back and listen.
If they decide they don't like something I say, then that's their problem. But I've been so afraid
to host a space because being a musician, I've been told like, you know, you gotta be careful.
You have to be super careful with what you let people know about you. Um, and I don't want to
do that anymore. Like I really, I don't know how to approach it, but I don't want to do that anymore. Like, I really, I don't know how to approach it,
but I don't want to do that anymore because that's what everyone's doing.
Like, notice how all of your favorite celebrities,
like the ones that are like musicians, actors,
a lot of your favorite music artists and actors and stuff,
they're silent right now.
They're not saying anything
because they're absolutely terrified.
They're like, I'm going to lose my job.
There's so many people out there that are terrified to say anything.
What, terrified of being cancelled?
Yes, yes, and not even cancelled by, you know,
whatever you want to call these forces of power,
whether it's the government or the corporations,
whatever you want to call these forces of power,
not even cancelled by them, but canceled by each other. Like we are literally
ostracizing each other to the point that people no longer speak their truth. There's a statistic
here in Canada. Guys, I'm telling you, don't do the fucking censorship stuff in your country,
if you can avoid it, because it's gotten pretty bad here like people have lost
their children like their kids have been taken away from them because they disagree with gender
ideology being taught in schools and when their kid you know goes to the teacher and says hey this
is how i feel about who i am the teacher has a right here to hide that from the parents.
Same in France.
Sorry, say that again.
It's the same in France.
Is it?
Yeah, they are teaching like age three years old children that everything about how to be sexual, how they can be a girl or a boy, how to be, you know, transgender and stuff like that. And it's a law and it is written in the law that the parents will not know
where the teachers are going to tell the children that and they cannot do anything against that.
And if you go against the government, it takes some time. But at the end of the day, if you disagree with that,
same if you have an autism child or autistic child or ADHD,
if you disagree with what the government decided for your kid,
well, they're going to take the children away from you.
That's the truth.
And that's the law.
Yeah.
And this is where it's scary, right right? Because, um, to my understanding,
this isn't happening in the States. Like you guys have, uh, you know, you haven't like censored
yourselves that drastically, like parents aren't allowed to say how they feel about this stuff
because they will, they can potentially lose their kids here um so if you
can do everything within your power to stop that from happening because in my opinion like yes um
adults are you know they can be politically involved but when we start to politicize little
kids and and we involve them in our antics of you know know, me versus you, I'm right, you're wrong. When we
start to involve little, they're literally babies, guys. Like, they're literally children.
Like, then we're crossing this line of indoctrination, right? If we bring this into schools how is that any different than what they did in residential
schools how is that any different it's not it's the same thing but like I said the pendulum
swings so it might not be the same topic it might not be the same values and morals and
you know it might not be all that stuff but it is at its essence it's indoctrination
of children and removing them from their families if they don't conform to what you think they should
be and that is terrifying so that's what i wanted to talk about um sorry that it's so dark and gloomy
but i will lift your hearts with a song if you would like is that cool yeah love it okay
you play silly games yeah i have uh a song coming out i need to like calm down though you know like
i get worked up having these conversations i need to take some deep breaths
you sing amazing all Alright, thank you.
Yeah, so this one's called Silly Games. It's coming out on September 26th. We could play a coconut, you always win, oh it's not fair
But it's okay, I love that smile, I'll always stare promise me you'll never leave
oh do you still care
I know that you say it
I wanna see it
I want you to cry So I know that you love me
I want you to hurt
So I know that you care
I want you to fight
When you get angry
So I know that your heart is still there
I've been hurt, I've been wronged
I've played along to those silly games
On the surface it seems so perfect
Until it's too late
Too late
Maybe we could say the things
We seem to hide away
Hide away We seem to hide away, hide away
You and me, we are a team and this year ain't a child's play that you're saying, but I want to see it.
I want you to cry, so I know that you love me.
I want you to hurt, so I know that you care
I want you to fight
When you get angry
So I know that your heart is still there
So I know that your heart is still there
I mean, it's just amazing.
You see all this shit in the world, all the division,
but we could just let them do that.
Let them play their silly games.
And then we could come together like that,
listen to the music and we could just sing.
I liken it to like the Grinch that stole Christmas.
Give him all the gifts.
Jesus said it, give Satan his world.
We make our own world.
We come together.
We help each other.
We all have difference of opinions.
Those difference of opinions, they help us.
They help us learn from each other.
We all have the same opinion we wouldn't learn.
But again, while they're creating hell on earth,
people like Melody are creating heaven. And I find that to be the most beautiful thing. Thank you so much, Melody. We love you.
It was, I don't think I've heard that song before. I feel like AJ already knew which
song you was going to sing. Like, so tap 10, I was like, what are you going to sing this one?
I was like, go AJ.
It's my favorite song.
What was the name of that song?
That song's called Silly Games.
It's coming out on September 26th.
That's why he knew.
It's the next release.
So I'm out in the spaces playing it,
hoping that people will listen to it when it comes out.
But I will say I have never sat and played that song
with the lens that I just had on.
And I was like, oh my God, these lyrics apply so heavily to what's going on right now.
Like when we see people so desensitized and so like okay with violence and stuff like that.
I'm like, no, like I want to see that this hurts you.
So that way I know your heart is still alive
that's how I was taking that in that moment when I was singing that and I was like
oh my god I couldn't sing properly because I was on the verge of tears so
and I felt that oh my god I felt that too I felt that you felt that there was something different
like wow as you're explaining that that's why I had to ask you because I'm like
that really touched me in a way that I'm just like all of your songs touch me but
that one touched me more and basically what you're saying is after what's happened
you saw it through a different lens and your emotions were even more
connected to the song wow wow okay I need to process that. That was incredible.
Thank you. I mean, that's really cool. Like hearing you guys say that you were kind of feeling that too is really cool.
I don't know if everybody else felt that,
but maybe we're all just kind of on the same wavelength right now.
But yeah, like that's my favorite thing about music is it's like,
it taps into the words that we don't have in the moment sometimes regardless of like
language barriers regardless of political barriers regardless of you know whatever your values are
like everybody can listen to a song and interpret interpret it in their own way and it can it can
touch them so that's like my favorite thing about being a musician but yeah thank you for letting me play that um yeah i'm all like in my feels now so i
need to recover thank you for sharing your gift that was amazing josh go ahead josh because i
know you gotta go so it's nap time and then i really want to hear from dj and fitz had his hand up for a long time
i know it's his world all right all right just because i know the dj is in a meeting but yeah
fitz was here from the beginning josh do you need to go i just wanted to say really quickly
melby that was beautiful thank you for sharing that with all of us. I didn't process.
I can't wait to go back to the recording and listen to the actual lyrics.
But you're right.
Music brings us to a center.
And it helps us process.
And what I felt from listening to you share the acoustic guitar and just singing,
it brought me to a center of peace.
So you were talking about that pendulum.
And then I responded with trying to find center.
It helps me come back to center so I can recalibrate which direction I need to go,
left or right, metaphorically left or right.
And that was great.
I just wanted to share that.
Thank you, Melody, for sharing with us.
Thank you, Josh.
Let's go to Fitz, because he has had his hand up for a while,
and I sometimes don't see people.
It's really hard to explain.
Fitz, thank you for pointing that out, AJ. Fitz, go ahead.
Hey, Darren. Daza.
Am I saying that correctly? Daza?
Yes, not Daza. I don't know
why you Americans say Daza.
Josh says it like that. Dominic says it. It's Daza.
Daza. Daza.
Yeah, Daza.
Daza.
no worries about waiting to speak.
I've been enjoying the conversation.
And wow, what a performance.
You have a new subscriber in me, Melo B.
I did not intend to rhyme there, but I guess I do when I have the time.
No, this has been an amazing space.
It's so good to have you back on the platform.
Daza.
And yeah, I guess as an American,
I could comment somewhat about the Charlie Kirk situation.
See, I get flustered even just trying to talk about it.
I don't know.
I don't really have that much to add.
It's awful.
It's a terrible situation.
I'm saddened by my country.
I'm saddened that it happened at all,
that somebody was murdered for essentially sharing their viewpoints.
Yeah, it's just a sad sad state of affairs um yeah what else to say about it i don't know everybody's been saying a bunch
about it and um it's tough um yeah i'm just really happy that you're back on the platform man and um
i'm glad to be here. And you're awesome.
And I love being in your spaces.
I think that you provide an immense amount of value to the platform.
So basically just glad you're back.
And yeah, not much else besides that.
Just enjoying listening to the conversation as well.
You actually, this conversation just kind
of got me going uh i was doing a little bit of work on uh on my project that i'm working on
um so yeah it's just been nice and um yeah good good that you're back and good that you're uh
hosting spaces again and uh looking to many, many more.
I appreciate that, Fitch.
You know, when you were speaking, something came to me
because I know obviously everyone is holding so much pain and trauma and hurt.
But where do we go from here?
Like, if you saw the, I'm not sure many of you have,
saw his wife Erica's speech.
Oh my God, like, she gave me goosebumps.
You could feel that she's going to turn this tragedy into something so powerful.
And that's something that I'm good at doing.
In terms of the pain and the trauma that I go through,
I'm able to, like like go away and alchemise
it and turn it into something powerful and I feel like this is really what we need to get our minds
our hearts and our beings to like it's a bad thing yeah process that pain process that darkness but
how do we now use that energy that's being built within us
and turn it into a positive turn it into something powerful centina i'm going to pass it to you over
to no i was just gonna say um you know with charlie kirk he had a mission um he had a voice
and he he gave that voice to others it was um i don't want to you want to use the word
responsibility but he felt like it was a responsibility to uphold what he was bringing to his followers and the people who looked up to him and giving them a voice.
I wanted to ask Fitz, do you believe that this has actually brought people more together or separated more?
separated more. What are your thoughts on that Fitz? Cause you were sort of like, um, you didn't
What are your thoughts on that, Fitz?
want to elaborate, but I wanted to ask you, do you believe that this, I believe this is bringing
people more together. I think they're realizing, um, life they're realizing, um, on a bigger picture,
um, that he was married, that he's leaving two children behind. Um, you know, we talk about
everything else, but, um, the children is so sad because, you know, when you think about the children, it's, you know, their birthdays, their high school, they graduate,
the sweet 16s, the marriage, they've lost their father. So I just want to ask you, do you think
that this is, even though it's sad, do you think it's bringing people closer together?
Yeah, have people become more unified as a result of this? I'd like to think that that's possible. Whether or not they have, I don't know. I think it's still just too early to tell. And there's plenty of division out there still.
I can only really speak for myself and what I can do.
And that's pretty much just try to interact with people in a positive, uplifting way, help people however I can.
And yeah, it's weird because it was a heavy week for me.
Other than that, like, I don't want to go too much into it.
that like i don't want to go too much into it but uh my nephew basically was uh in an accident
and he was drunk behind the wheel and like just being an idiot you know so it's just like super
heavy week just all around um uh and i'm just trying to process it the best that i can and
be uplifting to people as much as i can um And I feel like at least that's going to have some
kind of effect and just try to inspire others and hang out with others and be around others that
are also trying to do that. As far as a large scale, like in the United States as a whole,
what's going to happen and what is happening, I have no clue.
Like, it's still just too raw, I think, to really fully understand what's going to happen next.
I will say that, yes, his wife's speech was very powerful.
Yeah.
So I hope things get better.
I hope things feel more unified after this.
I hope that people come together and stop seeing that which divides us as larger than that which unites us.
Because to me, somehow, at some deep level,
it's like we're still the United States of America, right?
Like, we have United in the fucking name.
Like, come on.
Like, let's be United, please.
So, yeah.
100%.
Thanks.
Thanks for that, Fitz.
And great question, Sentinel.
I want to go to Skinny because he's had his hand up for a while,
and we're going to hear from Truth,
and then we're going to go to my buddy DJ Skinny.
Missed you, man.
Oh, boy.
Welcome back, Darren.
Where's goats?
Get goats in there.
Did I do that right?
That one, yeah.
You Americans don't say it right, but it's fine.
I'm going to get used to it.
I'll get used to it.
It's okay.
I don't know.
We'll make something else up.
You know how it goes.
Nicknames just go.
They are what they are.
Lilu, my mother was from France.
And it kind of makes me want to cry.
Listen to her talk with that English with a heavy French accent.
So thanks for that today.
I needed to hear that.
And the lovely music lady,
those first four notes you hit
sounded exactly like one of my absolute favorite Merle Haggard songs.
My favorite memory.
I don't know what you're doing with that guitar,
but it's one of the most earthly, grounded,
I don't even know what that is.
I don't know if that's tuning or the chords,
the particular chords you're playing,
but stellar, by the way, in a booming voice.
That's excellent.
So if anybody's sensitive here,
you might want to plug your ears for a second.
I'm just going to be me.
Darren, we were very busy while you were gone.
We fixed retard.
Everybody knows what they're talking about.
We got rid of all the feds,
and there are no more bots on this platform.
So, you know, we can all just run around naked.
That would be never a lot.
It's fine.
I said some things the other night, and I will stand by them.
I had the opposite reaction to the Mrs. Kirk.
As far as being desensitized,
eight years old, I saw my mom covered in a sheet with just her head showing on a cold steel table
and I couldn't touch her. My little brother did. That wasn't desensitizing. That was a
rooting in reality. I always wanted to be a soldier. I didn't find out until it was too late that I couldn't, like literally couldn't, um, be a soldier, but you know, we grew up hunting and fishing and doing some other things.
And then when you think you're going to want to be a soldier, you might want to look at some old
footage. Uh, Vietnam was a intensive course of self.
I took it on myself in high school because my dad was drafted.
And as a young boy, seeing him at the traveling wall,
watching grown men and women weep like babies,
it threw me into a course of, of, of study, very intense study.
We do get desensitized, uh, but dehumanization is another thing, right?
So can I tolerate a level of violence?
Absolutely.
Um, unfortunately, like the job I have, one of our old safety videos, they literally, they showed you about 10 minutes of people dying on the job.
That's not to desensitize.
That's to make it real.
So I think it's in how certain people digest things. Um, there's some exceptionally positive things coming out of a absolutely horrific and unnecessary
event.
I can't be more encouraged for the human race.
And as we saw, I don't know what day it is because I've been working six days a week.
I think it was Sunday.
We saw, I don't know if there's a separate one going around.
We saw the Smith month, right? This needs, this needs to make a severe comeback in America
as in 2012, somewhere between 2011 and 2013, Smithmont Modernization Act allowed the news to propagandize the people.
And in turn, if you look at what happened, they never, ever, ever would have had dancing doctors and nurses had it not been for Smith Munt.
There'd be a whole lot of things. This term hate speech, do you know what that is?
No matter what you say, whether it's based in fact or feelings, if it hurts my feelings, now it's hate speech.
In America, the founding fathers were exceptionally, exceptionally thoughtful.
This is important.
Thinking, logic, common logic must rule the day again.
Common sense must rule the day again. Common sense must rule the day again.
Because some of us have had to keep our mouths shut since the late 90s, the 2000s.
And I'm not talking about conspiracy stuff. I'm talking about kids who grew up outside of a big city in the real world
where we killed animals that we ate right we actually did that ourselves
in small towns where if you were a big f up you couldn't get a job to save your freaking life because of peer pressure because all eyes on you all the time
and we got told no a whole lot so until we get back to a world where parents start saying no again
sorry to say none of this changes None of it
And I don't like it
But I'm not scared to say anything
Freedom of speech is freedom of speech
That's not going to change
What will be changing is
The fact that basically
The major news outlets
Worldwide by the way
Have been propagandizing Libeling people fact that basically the major news outlets worldwide, by the way,
have been propagandizing, libeling people day in, day out with no fact and telling people that certain things were going to happen when they weren't or vice versa.
or vice versa.
And I've had it. I've literally had it.
I've literally had it.
But a whole bunch of people
got together this weekend
and I hope it continues.
I hope we don't need
another Charlie Kirk.
I hope this actual infection spreads.
Which is just respect.
We don't have to agree on a damn thing.
Not one thing.
But what we do have to do is respect
another person's individual freedom to do whatever
so long as they not be harming another individual.
It's just the basics, man.
What you think, where you worship, all of that, that was written into the Constitution for a reason, because it's none of your effing business.
And if you can't agree on that fact, you still haven't read the Constitution, you're not taking the entire scope of how and why it was written.
It's an amazing piece of work, you guys.
The world's screaming for their Constitution. I'll tell you that. And to see what happened in
England as a result, well, not as a result. They were going to do that anyways. But you can't tell me that Charlie's death didn't have something to do with England this weekend.
Australia.
All over the place.
Global.
So for that, I'm proud of people.
I'm proud of them for putting boots on the ground.
And nobody got freaking hurt.
Nobody burned a city down to prove their point.
They just got out and they did something together.
There's no reason to burn your town down.
There's literally no reason to burn your town down.
And as I listen to people banty about,
about civil war and all this,
all the garbage again.
No. How about garbage again. No.
How about that one?
You know why?
Because there's no winners in that situation.
Nobody effing wins.
Nobody wins.
So, all of the good things that happened this weekend,
that's the essence of winning.
Everybody won,
including the people who didn't agree.
You know why?
Because nobody ruined their home,
their business.
They won because they got to see what it looks like to be civil
and to show dissent,
good, love, and respect, even though we can't agree so I
don't know that's where I'm at but I will reiterate I felt that 48 hour after what she did. No. Sorry.
Sorry.
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Okay.
I'm not buying that shit.
What are you saying?
It was too soon after his death for her to come out? There is no emotion.
There's no emotion in it, Darren.
I'm sorry, dude.
That's one of the fakest things I've ever seen in my life.
And I didn't have to watch it, by the way, folks.
I didn't get to see a part of it until Monday.
I listened to it on the way home from work.
Free of judgment, I listened to it.
And it stinks on ice. That's me, though. So we don't
have to agree, right? And we can remain civil. I think it stinks. I think the whole thing stinks.
But that's just me. And that's what makes me very proud to be an American. Nobody can take away my opinion or my ability to say a damned word,
nor will I ever shut my mouth ever. And we've gone around tiptoeing around for 35 years in
this country, almost 40 years tiptoeing around. Oh my, Oh, how dare you? Yeah. Yeah. No, that's not a dare
I'm done man, I'm raising two little girls in the world that's been created right now
You better believe
That I am preparing them
For what we have at hand while at the same token spent this token spending as much time
enlightening them to the way it could be the way we had it as children this world was pretty effing grand for us 80s kids late 70s early 80s everything was up up up up
up, up.
But we have realities that we have to face right now.
So it's my godly duty as a man to teach my daughters the same thing,
black and white.
Bullshit.
I call it where I see it.
So they're not floored at 30, at 25.
Floored when something real happens.
I don't shelter
my kids from real.
with that, I've gone on long enough.
But I'm glad to see you back, Darren.
Thanks, Ethan.
You know,
I feel you
when you're talking about
you don't buy it, the speech
that she done 42 hours
afterwards, that was the first thought that came to my
mind, like what, she's come up
and when I saw it behind the podium
it did look
kind of staged, I'm not
going to lie, but the word still had
impact, it did, just listening
to what you're saying, I'm just like, okay,
it wasn't just me who thought that, you know?
I've heard from other, I was watching it with some family members.
And a lot of the girls in that, they were like, yeah, but, you know,
a woman's scorned, you know, she's hurt,
and she's going to come back with a vengeance and everything.
But I just, I don't know.
There was something that, yeah.
And I agree on the effectiveness of what you just said as well, right?
It was a timing thing.
What my issue is with all of it is like it was more than 50% of sales pitch.
But by the same token, there are people that are grieving like he was one of their own.
And I'm sorry, but the essence of grooming is when people are completely discombobulated that you start programming.
me. And I find a great deal of shame in that. You have to let people digest.
And I find a great deal of shame in that.
There's a period of mourning, yes? I grieved my mom for I don't even know how long. I still
grieve her now at 47 years old, 39 years later, at times times in my own way. But the time for anybody to talk to
me about anything, even inside of a week after the most important person of my life ate a bullet,
it wasn't five days. It wasn't 48 hours. It wasn't a month. Leave me the F alone.
This is what I find dastardly in it and repulsive. But effective, yep, it worked.
So good for them. That's, that's their business. Can I, can I ask a question on
this? I'm cause I'm sitting here, like I'm so invested in what you're saying because I remember
having like a weird gut feeling when I, I didn't listen to it at first. It was, I saw the video and
heard her speaking at the same time. I immediately, I remember having this immediate,
weird gut feeling, but I went on to watch the video
and listen, and by the end of it, I was like,
I'm in tears, I'm like, you know,
just kind of like feeling a lot of feelings,
so I didn't really have time to like process
what I just absorbed.
So I'm like really hearing what you're saying
and kind of resonating with it
because of that gut feeling I had.
But I wonder if, I wonder if part of the reason that was done so soon and felt very like,
okay, we're, we just got to get something out here.
Like it's gonna, like, I guarantee you that was like, just like, you know, scripteded to some degree whether she wrote it herself or with some help I don't know I don't
know what I would even be able to do in that moment because I'd be fucking a mess sorry pardon
my French um but I wonder if they were seeing the response like the the celebratory response that was happening. And that was like a reactive video.
That's a good point, you know.
Yeah, I hear where you're coming from
because for her to go through all of that pain and grief
and then there's people literally like dancing on his grave,
I can kind of see why it was like a countermeasure as well.
So yeah, that's shifted something to me.
Thanks for that, Melody.
Let me throw it to Truth, Matthew.
I know you ain't got that much time
and we've got JP on stage as well.
I think we're going to go to DJ after Truth.
How do you always know how much time everybody has?
I don't get it.
Because they messaged me.
You like the time key?
You like the silent time man or something?
They literally messaged me.
I'm trying to have a cue,
but then I get messages like,
Darren, I haven't got that much time.
Can I do it?
Do you know what I mean?
So it's one of those ones, isn't it?
So it's fine.
And Truth's one of my buddies.
He's got such a deep voice
and he does his Bible classes.
I just saw Gypsy come in and she disappeared
Truth you need to get her back in there
Over to you Matthew
Hey Darren
It's Jane and all I want to say
Is God bless you
And I am so happy
That you're back
X was not the same without you
There was an empty space
In the late afternoon where i couldn't find
a good space to go to and and i kept looking for darren and darren wasn't there so welcome back
home buddy you were missed by a lot of us thank you jane i appreciate that. But I definitely needed that time for me. And I was lucky to have DJ and AJ and Josh and Lelu and Dominic.
So many people that were still very much connected to me.
And they were surprised that I was just so cool.
They're like, why are you so cool?
I'm like, because I know that this is happening for a reason.
And I will get my account back.
And when my account comes back it
means that it's the time for me to come back and i just had to just be patient and know that their
process was happening do you know what i mean so i appreciate that but you know that was i needed
that time for me um but nice to see you jane um thank you for being up here truth over to you
hey darren like everybody's saying it saying, it's always so great to hear your voice again.
You always keep a really good energy about your spaces.
Santino, haven't seen you in a while.
I know you're so busy doing stuff, but it's good to hear you too.
You're always a good voice of reason.
He's walking to the gym now.
Are we still listening now? Are we still listening? It's good to hear you too. You're always a good voice of reason. He's walking to the gym now.
Are we still listening now?
Are we still listening?
Poor Leeloo.
Everybody says, excuse my French.
Poor girl.
Pick on her.
Pick on the French.
I did want to say a couple of things, though.
Mela, first time I've seen you, I I'm you know I guess I'm out of out of touch if you're if you're doing well uh but your your voice uh the fact that we didn't
listen to some uh highly overproduced uh you know record or whatever uh you you genuinely have a a very uh beautiful voice i wanted to point that out
uh i i would love to do a duet with you and throw some low stuff in there for you
but um anyway you know we've been obviously talking uh as a whole as people regarding this whole um
as a whole, as people regarding this whole horrifying assassination of Charlie.
And I keep trying to tell people, you know, I'm hoping that we don't lose the message, right?
I put on my little profile, just, you know, and it doesn't matter, but they may have killed a messenger, but they've only amplified his message.
And if we get lost in the hows, the whys, all this kind of stuff,
it seems like a lot of people, of course, the knee-jerk reaction
to want to have his killer be killed.
They're talking about the death penalty, the whole nine.
And that almost makes me kind of sick in a sense of, hey, as much as I feel the same, my knee-jerk reaction is that.
And, you know, for the kid's father and parents it's still a kid i would love to get to
talking to that kid and find out how did he get to that place those are the ones responsible
whoever was feeding him this line of was he turned my fear uh you know what i None of us know. He wasn't, but his boyfriend was.
It came out in the court docs.
Oh, is that what it was, Jeremy?
Right.
Yeah, and that's, you know,
again, those details,
they're going to come out.
How much can we really believe
from, you know, our own government?
Unfortunately, there's not much
we can really verify, right?
So we're always going to be in the
dark i think this is going to turn into another jfk conspiracy theory type thing which is unfortunate
you know but again all that crap this is about distraction and this is continuously about
trying to sorry i gotta calm down it's trying to separate sorry, I got to calm down.
It's trying to separate everybody.
This division, it goes from one damn thing to the next.
Now, sure, idealistically, you know,
we try to put it Democrat, Republican, you know, left,
whatever the, just whatever they come up with.
I think we're talking about a very minute, small group of people.
When you look at the entire population of our country, the entire world,
to me, the line is drawn in the sand.
We're actually going to see pure evil and good
and does that mean that all people that are on the left or vote democrat or bad people
absolutely freaking not but if they win
oh what what happened hi jane where's he gone What happened?
AJ, where's he gone?
Don't go.
He did say, he did say,
let me try and see.
Are you going to just
take the call just like that?
They've silenced him.
The platform has decided they don't like his opinion
and they, you know.
I was really getting into
what he was saying. I was too.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
There he is.
You're back.
Do you remember what you were saying?
You're killing the truth.
Keep going. I didn't know
where you guys got me cut off. I apologize.
Does anybody remember? It was all left, right.
Left, right. Yeah, see?
This is what happens, is when you start
speaking the truth, they cut you off.
Right? So,
it's a shame that we're seeing this division
constantly happen.
It's always going to be something else. I'm actually
waiting for something to happen
to quote-unquote somebody on the left. Almost
just to try to get empathy or sympathy for the other side.
But again, it keeps dividing us. It's either you believe in this
republic, you believe in what it stands for, you're doing
your best to be a good American.
And what does American mean? Read the damn Declaration of Independence. Read the Constitution.
Really do the research yourself instead of coming to conclusions half-witted. And this is the beauty
and I'm hoping that the message that Charlie was bringing, he saw the problem.
He saw the corruption and the brainwashing happening in our schools.
If you haven't been to Turning Point USA, definitely go to their website.
The work that that company has been doing, he confronted the problem and went directly to the students.
And a lot of us, including myself,
have kind of put the Gen Z to the wayside, like there's no hope for them, whatnot. He didn't do
that. He attacked the problem going, hey, you guys are being brainwashed. I want to show you
alternatives. But he didn't ever say that you're wrong for thinking the way you do. He was trying to understand that. And I
try to live myself by the seek first to understand, then to be understood. And that's a hard
way to truly live your life. We're lacking in integrity. We're lacking in just loving one another.
You know, Jesus, if you read the Bible,
and if you haven't, I encourage you to do so.
It doesn't matter what your belief is.
If you consider that your enemy,
well, read about it to find out how bad it really is.
Come to your own conclusions, not just what you hear.
But Jesus, when asked from his disciples, what are the greatest commandments?
He said, love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself.
Right now, we're not being very damn neighborly.
We're just, again, coming to conclusions and splitting us, you know, down
the middle, so to speak. And it's bullshit. I'm tired of it. You know, what was Charlie's message?
Why was his impact? Why did he impact the entire globe as much as he did? Because his message was
pure. You know, he constantly talked about his relationship with christ but didn't try to push it
on people and he wanted to help the youth by trying to understand and listen to what where
they were coming from and then point out hey you know what probably not a good way to think
what about this you know he came back with fact and not hyperbole.
Man, I was just trying to come up here to say hello to Mella and tell her I loved her voice.
I didn't mean to go off here.
I thought you missed me as well.
I know you got so many people.
He just paid for Mella.
I love him.
He only came up for Mella.
Like, what about me?
I can't blame him.
I cannot blame him.
I'm not going to be sensitive anymore.
It's fine. It's fine.
Mela's amazing. She's amazing.
And she is, sings like an
angel. So, oh my god, to whom's here?
But to whom, just hold
I've been
passing so many people.
Dante's been here for a while as well.
DJ, let me just go to Dante quickly
and then we're going to go to DJ. Like, DJ, can you wait one more time? Is that alright? Dante's been waiting for a while as well. DJ, let me just go to Dante quickly and then we're going to go to DJ. DJ, can you
wait one more time? Is that alright?
Dante's been waiting for ages
and JP's here as well. You're
good, brother. You're good. Thank you,
DJ. I missed your voice, DJ.
I'll come to you in a second, but I don't want to
lose Dante. You're doing a great job.
Keep it up, brother.
Oh, look, there's Dante. Dante,
over to you and then we'll try and get through the rest of these hands.
Good to see you to him.
Hey, man, I'll be real quick.
It's so nice to see you back.
But the only reason why I really am here is because if you remember at your birthday bash,
I was the one speaking when we went into an alternate universe.
And then, you know, Uncle...
Was it you?
It was me.
It was my fault.
And then in the hood where I grew up, you know, we called that the uncle went on vacation for a little while.
So you went on vacation for a little while.
You must have been a bad boy.
So I just came up to try to get you back to vacation.
But I think you had enough vacation, it sounds like.
So, yeah, you know, like we're all saying here, Mellaby and everyone, you know, we all have good hearts here and we don't want to see what's happened become a commonplace.
We've been cutting each other's heads off for far too long.
We're a lot smarter, I like to think, and we're getting a lot smarter by the minute.
And I think if we practice the piece that we speak of, we have a great chance, you know, guys,
because we know what the bad things in the world are. I don't think that the people who are causing all that hurt that we are speaking of
in this world that we live in right now sleep too well at night. Let's be honest, they don't.
But if you're a good person with good morals, and you shouldn't have to worry so much. And I think
we all sleep pretty good at night, even if we've witnessed a lot of trauma in our life, if we're good people.
So protect yourselves always.
That's what I have to add.
And have faith that, in my faith, I have faith that justice comes for all who are evil to all of the living.
There's nowhere to hide from that.
Nowhere.
So continue to be beautiful people
Darren I'm so glad you're back
I didn't get a chance because I was speaking
And you know
So happy birthday five weeks later
God bless you and God bless everyone in this space
I'll tell you that
See he was the only one who wished me happy birthday
You all knew what happened
Dante is the only one who wished me happy birthday
But it's fine.
I'm not going to be a diva.
It's all right.
It's all right.
It's a new Daza.
New Daza.
DJ, finally, over to you.
To whom we're coming to you soon.
JP as well.
And Elder Max.
Yep, sure.
We got Derek up here.
What's up, Derek?
Oh, say that again, AJ?
And we got Derek up here.
Say, what's up, Derek? Oh, Derek. Oh, my God. It's because he changed his again, AJ? And we got Derek up here. Say, what's up, Derek?
Oh, Derek.
Oh, my God.
It's because he changed his picture, AJ.
Derek.
We've got Derek here as well.
Some great people, man.
We'll hear from Derek soon.
DJ, how you been, man?
I'm great, brother.
You see how the beautiful people surround you.
It's so good to have you back.
I've missed you.
I mean, even though we've been talking, it's just great to have you back. I've missed you. I mean, even though we've been talking,
it's just great to have you back on the platform. I think you can see that us people that thrive on
positive energy really, really missed you and needed you. And it's just, I'm blessed, man. I keep getting goosebumps.
But that's really all that I wanted to add.
I don't, I just, I'm so happy you're back.
And I, you know, I got happy tears, brother, happy tears.
We tried to do a mental health space and it just did not feel the same without me. You wasn't feeling it.
It was not the same it
was not god you're making me feel bad no i don't want to make you feel bad it's not your fault it's
you know the ex-orvalords and um you know those terrible people in the background that you know
try to tear people down and tear down their energies and all that bullshit. It sucks.
But I'm just so glad you're back, man.
I've missed you, brother.
I've missed you.
I've missed you even though we practically talk daily,
but it's just good to have you back sharing the same love.
And I know, I mean, you know that people have been asking about you,
and it's just great, man.
I'm just so glad.
It's a great day for you and a great day for X, a great day for the world.
My world's realigned.
And I think that's what, you know, that's a positive.
That's a good thing.
And, yeah, man, I'm just so, I'm so proud of you for sticking through it. And I'm really, really glad that you had some personal time to just, uh,
you know, kind of get, um, I guess, uh, well, take a break. I mean, we all need a break and,
um, I'm glad you got one. And even though it was not on the best of terms,
maybe it was truly needed.
You never know.
The stars align in strange ways.
And that's a great thing for a lot of us.
And I don't know.
I'm going to ramble if I don't shut up.
You're funny.
But no, it was needed.
And you know, because you were speaking with me.
Was I not as cool as a cucumber?
Was I stressing out?
Was I like, oh my God, I need to get back there.
Like, I knew that it was happening for a reason.
Right, DJ?
Yeah, 100%. Yeah, you were, I mean, you really work.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, I think everyone was like, what the fuck?
And we were all stressed out more than you.
But I mean, that goes to show you how much we love you and respect you
and how much we appreciate you in our lives.
And, yeah, you have a lot of people that have your back, man,
and that really, really love you.
And I hate using the word need, but I think that's okay in this situation because, you know, you've become a great friend to me, a great friend to a lot of people in here.
And I think that's extremely evident.
And, you know, what a great thing to bring people back to unity.
And, you know, your core here is solidified even stronger.
I think you have a solid foundation of people you know you can trust.
And, you know,
I'll protect you. I mean,
you know,
to my best ability. I think
you know that.
And hopefully you know that through your
core here. Love you, brother.
And I'm just going to call you D.
I can't do it.
D'Azha.
D'Azha. D'A I can't you don't know you Americans
just call me that's what Bridget calls me out there just call me you know like you
know he says Dominic you know I have a yeah you know my most respected clients
Dominique and so you know I, it's embedded in my brain.
But I don't know, man.
Yeah, the Americans, it just does all, does all. It sounds wrong.
It's funny, though.
You'll get used to it.
You'll get used to it.
Love you, DJ.
Thank you for coming on.
We need to think of a title for the Men's Mental Health Space on Saturday.
I'm looking forward to doing that.
I was thinking maybe around the trauma or something I don't know let's put our thinking heads together
and and and pull off a good space I know it's been five weeks and I felt bad that I couldn't be there
but you know sometimes you you've got to fill up your own cup before you can be out there
filling up others right and I just knew that I needed that time just for me. So I appreciate
you, man. I'll probably speak to you tomorrow or something. All right. So now I've lost
the order. I felt like there was someone. Is it JP? Do I go to JP and then Elder Max
and then to whom? Because I always go to to whom? To whom? Just tell me, are you driving?
I haven't heard this man's voice in ages. Sorry, guys. One second.
Are you driving Tahoe?
You are driving. So do you need
to go now? He wants to roast me, guys.
He had a roast waiting for me
for my birthday.
Oh, don't let him
out. Get him
Tahoe. I only got
about 20 minutes left.
Alright, JP. We're going to JP.
Go ahead, JP.
I'll just check in to see to whom I'm driving.
JP actually stayed on the stage.
JP, over to you.
Good to see you, man.
Yeah, good to see you.
What's up, my neurodivergent?
See, I used the N-word finally, and it worked.
We need to do the neurodivergent spaces.
You know, JP, could you see that Charlie Kirk was neurodivergent?
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's pretty obvious at this point.
I mean...
100%.
It's funny.
My wife and I were talking about it, and it's almost like there's this superpower we have now,
and you can walk around and just look at people and tell who's neurodivergent and who's neurotypical,
and you're probably right most of the time.
100%. right most of the time 100 100 what have i missed on on the spaces jp like would you think that it
was good that i wasn't actually here when all of that went down last week well i mean you could go
watch the real housewives and you get about just as much drama so you can catch up on that um
you know it's it's one of those things i think at this point
being just being in the logical neurodivergent space seems to be pretty safe and and looking
at all these these events and just kind of looking at everything with just uh if it doesn't make
sense it probably doesn't make sense and at some point it will make sense the only thing that makes
sense is the present that we're in right now and where we're at and just kind of watching all of these things.
And this Charlie Kirk thing, it almost seems like an op because, I mean, my mom's asking, who's this Charlie Kirk fella?
And all these people are like investigating him now.
But when you pull up Charlie Kirk videos, all you pull up is all of these videos where he's debating people and he's doing it with kindness and passion and love.
And he said, if you disagree with me, come to the front of the line.
You're the people I want to talk to first.
And he never punches down.
And I think that's a really positive message for us to be putting out.
And no churches burned down yesterday.
No malls were looted.
No neighborhoods were on fire.
No one got beat up over the last week.
So it's also showing that there's two sides of the coin.
We can disagree on things, but it doesn't mean we need to necessarily take it to
the extremes right so i think this whole process is about finding the balance about finding the
ying and the yang finding that chakra where we're we're not extreme left or extreme right because i
don't think there's much difference between the extreme left and extreme right at this point i
think it's time to separate from the lunatics and find that consensus of the crowd that's in the middle.
Be okay with liberal-leaning ideas and ideologies.
And also be fine with conservative-leaning ideologies, right?
And all of those things.
And find that balance and that harmony where everybody has a win and everybody takes a loss.
So I think that's just kind of, I think, Darren, resetting your batteries and doing what you did is good things.
I hear a little bit more pep in your step right now than last time I heard you.
So this is very draining.
And if we really think about it, we are the energy of the world.
We are the batteries of the world.
And sometimes we've got to put our batteries, which are us, in the charger if we're going to keep driving, you know, keep moving forward.
So I'm glad that you're back.
I'm glad that you're charged.
I'm glad that Dahoon's here, but I'm glad that everybody has come back and everybody's here right now.
But it's good to hear you, buddy.
You too, JP.
And the thing with me, right, is I always put other people ahead of me.
Like, it's literally what I do in my job like working in mental health for
all of these things always that they're with the family at the weekend and stuff like that i never
really took the time for me and i'm doing the spaces i was doing like for three sometimes for
a week and i think for that to happen on my birthday i just knew that it was some higher
power that was saying just stop just take some time for you i've been doing the reading i've
been getting more on youtube
i now know a lot of the who a lot of these influencers were that you lot are talking about
i didn't even realize who a lot of these people were to be honest i'll just get wrapped up and
caught up in spaces but now i'm like okay yeah and i now know which videos to go to and stuff like
that like i was telling you jp that um whitney webb oh my god like another neurodivergent one how does she hold all that
information jp incredible so yeah i'm definitely going to be doing more spaces where it's going to
be less emotion based and more exploring the information and going down some more rabbit
holes because i feel like there's people in my corner that can really help me understand more. Go ahead, JP. We're starting anew.
Have you ever watched Kill Tony?
It's this comedian podcast.
And what they do is they call random comedians up from a bucket.
And then the comedian gets one minute of uninterrupted time.
So Shep and I are going to start a space where we're going to do it where people get to come up and have one minute of uninterrupted time.
But then we'll conduct an interview afterwards and keep it short so it's more of a conversation.
We really want to start building things, and we've got to stop letting people tear them down in the middle of building.
So I understand a lot of people like to do that, but it's time for us to start building the future that we want
because there's going to be a time and place shortly where we have to come up with ideas and if we haven't had any discussion on
any ideas we're going to like a bunch of buffoons so i think that it's time to build spaces with
builders and not people that just want to distract or tear down i love that jp sorry to interrupt i
just that's an amazing concept i stole it from jp. Yeah, JP's very good at letting people build.
He's also very good at shutting them down
if they're trying to derail a space.
That's JP's thing.
I was so scared of him at first
because I'm like, oh my God,
this guy is just really aggressive.
But people call me aggressive
and it's not aggressive.
He's just very assertive
because he knows where he wants the space to go.
And if someone is derailing it,
he's like,
just bring that,
take that bullshit somewhere else.
So I appreciate JP and we'll be doing more neurodivergent spaces as well.
So thank you for coming,
man.
I missed you.
It's good to see you.
Elder Max,
we're going to go to you and then we're going to hear from my buddy to whom?
Go ahead.
Elder Max.
See, he's been waiting for so long, he probably wasn't ready.
You know, when you've been waiting for so long, it's like, oh, my God, they're calling me?
Like, he's probably not even listening.
I'm good.
I was trying to get the mic to get unstuck.
Lord have mercy.
Now, I appreciate it, Darren.
Satina, I'll see you over there.
Respecting the host and co-host.
Everybody in the space.
I hope everybody's doing fine this evening.
Don't forget AJ. AJ's up here as well with us.
I said host and co-host.
I'm only joking.
You're trying to pick on me, man.
Mel, that's my first time
hearing you sing.
When you said you was going to sing, I was like, oh oh my god I didn't know whether to take the headphones off put them down or
give me a drink or what right then when I heard your voice I said wait a minute
I have hit my headphones back on even let me have a good cigar and pour me a
shot and just sat back so yeah you yeah, you have a beautiful voice.
Beautiful voice. And I sent you a message
in your DM
where I can
purchase some of your music.
I would love to play that.
Yeah, that was
real good.
Listen,
I'm 62 years old.
She's probably just stepped away from the phone
too, as you're saying this, but we'll let it know.
That's the way it always works.
Right.
But, um, I'm 62 years old, um, retired military U S army, retired at the rank of a command
Sergeant major.
Um, I've been to a lot of fronts where
humanity can be
between each other.
For his bodies.
Hold on.
I got an incoming call.
Lord have mercy.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you.
Yeah, I had a phone call.
Of all times, they go all right, they wait for me.
I've been in a lot of countries, so what mankind can do to each other as far as inflicting harm,
the way they do children in battle zones, women, all that, you know, I've had confirmed
kills under my belt and had to deal with that. And I'm saying all this to say, you know,
I thought I've seen it all. But to be in peacetime now and to see how a man's life could be taken just because somebody disagrees with him on a simple debate.
I mean, debates have been going on since the beginning of time.
Rome, Greece, you name it.
Ancient India. um rome greece you name it um ancient uh india it was a way of debating what best ways to go about doing something and um if you lose a debate it's not that oh i think we watched again
oh can you hear me now hear Yeah, you're perfect now.
Yeah, and as far as debates go,
it's not that you should hate the one that wins the debate,
but maybe look in the mirror and say your arguments really wasn't that good.
Maybe you need to go back and do your homework.
It's sad.
It's sad, and I tell people you didn't have to like the man, but where's your humanity at? I mean, you don't have no humanity towards a fellow human being. there's a lot of sickness here and i don't my grandchildren
my children around any of this sicknesses going on the things that we allow nowadays we would
never allow when i was growing up and who say it's okay it's not okay there is an actual sickness that needs to be dealt with.
By peaceful means, yes.
But when you have somebody doing what they're doing, taking up arms against you,
then you need to rethink that.
You know what I'm saying?
And as far as Ms. Kirk's speech. Um, I know I didn't really grieve, uh, my mother's passing until three weeks later
because I had a lot to do, of course, keeping the family together.
Um, then when my wife passed with cancer, um, it took two weeks to grieve because I was so,
you know, of course her burial, uh, looking after my grandkids and my kids, comforting them.
I didn't get that chance.
And then it wasn't to like two weeks later, I broke down.
Everybody with everybody is different.
But as far as her speech went, you have to put yourself in her shoes.
She is now the poster child for a big organization
that her husband started, a movement with ideals
as far as how we came up with Americans
and make Americans beautiful.
I mean, our country beautiful and
I think it was more or less her trying to reach out to those members and
reassuring them is the movement's going to go on and trying to say you know hey
it's okay this is how we're gonna forward, you know, for squashing any violence that could
have happened.
I mean, because this organization has so many people that it wouldn't took much to get it
started.
You know what I'm saying?
During this time, there was threats made against HCVUs and that's even more sad
because people want to try to say well Kirk and we have our HCVU you know
that's only people taking advantage of the unrest you know without what happened
and they're taking advantage of that and by them
doing me calling the ACVUs and making threats they want to get something
started that's all that is yeah I was really sad about the humanity that we
was given to each other as far as its death I thought we could do better I guess not but it's gonna make
me look at a lot of people I had some people and follow me here on the X and
that's okay nobody's paying my house those are nothing like that so I don't
I don't care I'm not gonna associate with people like that like I said
you don't have to agree with a person
but just the
respect you give each other goes a long
way we can disagree
and both go home
but the things that we agree upon
is the things that we can build on
and maybe who knows
after a time of us talking
one might
see the other one's way of
thinking you see I'm saying but you never know if you turn your back on the
person just don't want to hear because of their color because the way they think
something don't know better I mean I had to change a lot of soldiers mind coming
in basic training in the Army.
You would believe the kind of hangups they had in basic training.
You had to basically become their father and teach them the right ways.
So yeah, it's sad what happened.
I think we need to start giving each other grace and move a different way.
And I'll land with that.
Thanks for allowing me to speak.
You're welcome.
Thanks for your patience.
I appreciate all of you that have come up in there.
But, yeah, no, a lot of wisdom in that share.
Thank you, Elder Max.
All right, so we're coming to Tahun.
We're going to play him this track. Just because he's just such a cool thing.
And then we're going to hear from Tahun.
Ready or not, here I come.
You can't hide.
Yes, Tahun.
Gonna find you and take it slowly.
Ready or not, here I i know you can't hide gonna find you and make you want me
now that i escaped sleepwalk awake those who correlate know the world they kick
jail bars ain't gold gates those who fake they break When they meet their 400 pound lady, if I could rule the world
Everyone would have a gun in together of course
When you D up and on their hearts
Kick a rhyme, drink and move and shine
I pour a sip on the concrete
For the deceased, but no don't we
Why clefts in the state of sleep
Thinking about the robbery that I did last week
Money in the bag, banka look like a drag
I wanna play with pelicas from here to Baghdad.
Gun blast, think fast, I think I'm hit. My girl pinch my hips to see if I still exist. I think not.
I'll send a letter to my prince. A born again, a hooligan, only to be king again.
Ready or not, here I come. You can't hide Gonna find you
And take it slowly
What's up, To whom?
Hello, hello
Hi, To whom gets his own welcoming song?
That's messed up, man
Shut up
Where's To whom?
Seriously, yeah
Oh, thanks for listening
You're not To whom, I don't know who you are
So get off stage
To whom are you there
Oh hello Darren
It's been a while
Watch how you drive
Darren it's been a lot It's been a lot It's been a lot
It's been a lot
Since you've been on this platform
Darren
I separated
I separated with my wife
I haven't seen my kids in two weeks
Been drinking
Drinking and driving
Relapse, hard drugs
Now I'm just fucking around I'm just fucking around
I'm just fucking around
I've been winning
I've been winning
my life is incredible
and I want to say that Darren Effect had nothing to do with it
I'm gonna be that guy AJ
I'm gonna be that guy Darren
had nothing to do with it
I'm wearing fucking
I'm wearing the most gold aviators on my face right
now so crazy Bottega's life is nothing but amazing I've been winning I'm in my creative
man era 2.0 which I'm sure you heard about Darren but there's a lot to talk about.
I don't got too much time.
I'm pulling into the driveway to get greeted by my family, my kids.
But I want to just say welcome back.
You give me a call so I can give you shit and then get you caught up of what's going on. I it while I'm because ready or not I make
tracks like I'm homeless one of my favorite one of my favorite songs this
guy's meticulous he thinks he's gonna come back and curate curate hot to whom
introduction I'll hijack this mug cuz I'm nothing but energy as of lately. I know.
That was my rose.
Welcome back.
That's my rose.
You're so funny.
Oh, man. He got me with that.
I was like,
yo, if you need somebody to talk to,
but to whom has been asking about you
this whole entire time?
Yeah, how's he doing?
Where's he at?
How's he doing?
Yeah, I appreciate that to whom.
AJ, how good was he?
What was the honking?
How good was the honky?
Part of my acting skills.
The honky,
fake yelling.
Yeah, you know,
the picture,
like I'm crazy.
I was like,
I don't like his body
in the bar.
I was like,
damn,
maybe I can go out with him.
That's what I was thinking.
I've got all these Italians now.
DJ's Italians and Tino's Italian. AJ's Italian, Tuhun's Italian.
Shit, there's a bit of a pattern here, isn't there?
Okay, I see it, I see it, I see it.
No, but Tuhun, one of my closest friends on here,
and I don't even know the guy's fucking name,
let alone have his number.
So when that happens, all these guys,
I'm able to call them, speak with them.
I speak to him all the time.
The man spoils me.
And then this happens,
I can't get through to him.
And I'm like,
I'm not even going to ask anybody.
I think I did say to Southern,
see if he can get his number,
but no number came back.
So I'm like,
well,
I'm just going to have to wait
till I get back on the platform.
It's good to hear your voice,
man.
But yeah, it's been a while
i was gonna call your work you know you're a very public guy with your name and everything
you're what i was gonna call your work and roast you but i'm like no you know what i don't know
you know you know what you know i'm a researcher man i can find i can find out what you're eating
hey man i'm 20 years deep in this
mug you know but nonetheless I'm like you know what I think every action
there's a reaction everything happens for a reason so I'm like this is gonna
subside and nonetheless I'm glad this happened and every relationship right
every relationship there comes a point where you know friendship
is tested and there's a break and not to say there was there was anything like with malintent
but um you know i can't wait for you and i to continue our weekly conversations we talk like
three four times a week man even long even maybe five days. So I think
it was necessary for us to
have this little hiatus, and
I'm looking forward to it, brother. I really
am. I'm glad you're back, but I'm pulling into
the driveway. You guys have yourself
a wonderful rest of space.
We're going to trip tomorrow.
They're yelling at my driveway right now as I
pulled up, man. I appreciate you guys.
All right.
Good to see him.
Yeah, he's such a cool, cool guy.
He got me, man.
Did he get you?
What were you thinking?
You were like, holy shit.
No, because I could tell that he was playing.
I could tell.
That's why I just stayed silent because I'm like, nah,
he's not the kind of guy that will come up on stage and just go,
go there. Do you know what I mean? That is not to him. He's probably one of the most private people.
So when he started saying all of that, I was like, this guy's just pulling on leg. He's a joker,
but no, he's, he's, he's funny. He's funny. I see AJ, he liked that track because I knew that was
his vibe. So there you go. I thought you liked hip hop AJ. I was playing it for you as well. I love hip hop. Hip hop's my favorite. Put a little Wu-Tang maybe. I'm from was his vibe. So there you go. I thought you liked hip hop, AJ. I was playing it for you as well.
I love hip hop.
Hip hop's my favorite.
Put a little Wu-Tang maybe.
I'm from Staten Island.
You know, like Wu-Tang.
A Biggie.
I think he might be from Queen to the Bronx.
I think two homes from the Bronx.
You lot are from New York.
I'm surprised.
I'm sort of like, I'm not saying anything anyway.
It's lovely having all of you here.
I feel like I need to get to Derek,
and then we're going to hear from Buddy,
and then we're going to wind down,
because it's three hours already.
Thank you, Centino.
Thank you, AJ.
Thank you, Leeloo.
Truth.
Oh, my God, there's peace as well.
That guy is a psychic.
Melody B's down in the audience.
Vince is here.
Hello, Vince.
Goats came by.
Goats came by.
Ryan, look, Goats is here.
Goats, get on the stage.
You know, he was sending me messages on Telegram.
He's just like, you're just not coming back, are you?
I'm like, all in due time.
All in due time.
I was in no rush to get back.
Like, when the time was right, the time was right.
And today, the universe blessed me with all of a sudden I'm seeing my notifications come through.
I was like, oh, wow.
Okay.
It's been activated.
Brilliant.
Buddy, I'm going to come to you soon.
Let's hear from Derek.
Derek, I've missed you.
How you been?
Is the cartel still on your case, Derek?
Well, I wear a disguise now and, you know, I've changed.
So you wouldn't recognize me. Well, you might rate this minute. But, yeah. So I'm a disguise now and, you know, I've changed. So you wouldn't recognize me.
Well, you might right this minute.
But yeah, so I'm OK for now.
I've just been busy.
I've been busy, man.
I'm working on five different projects at one time and enjoying it.
It's the time.
How have you been, man?
You disappeared and they booted you out.
I tried to get in touch with you.
Just wanted to give you some encouragement.
Well, Dr. Rochnap, when it was happening, Derek,
Dr. Rochnap was trying to get me on an alt account, you know,
carrying my cash and everything.
I was on the phone for about an hour.
I created four different accounts for you.
I know.
There was all these different spaces.
Everyone was trying to get me on an alt account.
I just didn't want to.
I was just like, you know what?
I'm not bothered. Let me have a break. It was just too much do know what i mean all these attacks all this like ducking and dying i was just like fuck it it's
i'm done like let me just have some me time and and everyone trying to get me back and i'm like no
no i'm not ready every week aj was like when you come back, when you come back, no, no, no.
When it gets reinstated, then that's
the time. So five weeks, Derek,
you know, I feel like a new person.
Missed all of you lot.
We definitely need to do Spaces
About Nothing again, Derek. It's been a while,
hasn't it?
You know,
sorry. Hey, guys, sorry.
Hey, guys.
Sorry, I'm on a desktop right now. And, you know, the X desktop app for this thing is like the redheaded stepchild.
No offense, Leeloo.
Love you.
Derek.
That's hate speech, Derek.
No, I was a redheaded stepchild.
Are you kidding me?
I was denied.
I was redheaded.
Born redheaded born redheaded
but i'm not well something happened to me i turned i turned sicilian i don't know what happened
but uh yeah no we definitely need to do a space about nothing because if anybody knows anything about nothing nothing is everything and everything is nothing. So that's where it takes place.
100%. It's good that you're still with us.
You're safe.
And as much as there's been all this craziness going on,
Derek is still going strong.
So love you, Derek.
Looking forward to doing more spaces with you soon.
Likewise.
Yeah.
Just let me know when you've got time and we'll do it.
We'll do the space about nothing.
As long as everybody here joins and says nothing about nothing.
Nothing about Derek's spaces about nothing ultimately turn into spaces
about everything and anything.
We need to get Norwood on it.
Like, yeah, Norwood can really hold that space with us.
So I'm looking forward to that, Derek.
Let's hear from Buddy.
And we've got Marlon on the stage as well.
My God, Marlon's here.
Come to Marlon after Buddy.
Buddy is another one.
I was saying this to AJ, yeah?
Out of all of you guys that have tried to help me see sense
when I'm just holding on to all this bullshit, yeah?
None of you could get through to me
the way how Buddy was able to get through to me.
And I don't know how Buddy was able to do it,
but Buddy, as much as he's so loving and kind,
when he talks to me, he talks to me like,
just fix up, kind of, just look, stop it.
It's not just all about you.
Like, I'm like, all right, buddy.
Do you know what I mean?
I swear, I just shed a tear one time
when he was giving me a telling off. But sometimes the hard truths are important. And I think, you know, when we're
talking about freedom of speech and everything, that's really what I'm sitting back and I'm
realising, you know, like, I'm going to say this honestly, like, as a black person, right,
I feel like there were certain things that were said, like that Charlie Cook would say.
And I'm sitting there, I'm listening.
I'm like, yeah, that feels like a bit of a dog whistle.
Yeah, that feels a bit racist.
But I was watching it with some of my family and that.
We had to be honest.
We had to be, do you know what?
All the guys really trying to say at some points, right,
is a lot of it's in the past.
We can move on
and we have the same opportunities today.
And as much as the past is difficult,
when are we going to be able to let go of the past
and move forward?
I can understand that and I can see that.
But I'm just saying from a black person,
I know how sometimes
when you haven't processed certain things,
you hear someone who doesn't come from your community say that, and it just comes across
as offensive. But at the same time, I'm saying to all of you lot now, I recognize that as a
community, there are certain things that we have to just be able to just move on and let go.
Otherwise, we're always going to just be stuck in this situation where what
someone says something and you just get triggered and then you just get
emotional.
And it's just like,
I really took that time to recognize that I don't want to be like that on
this platform.
I don't want to be like that in my work.
I don't want to be reactive.
And this is what buddy says to me.
Do you want to be reacting?
Do you want to always retaliate or do you want to inspire? And I love
you for that, buddy. That is something that has really integrated into my soul. So I'm going to
pass it over to buddy. This man's got so much wisdom. Over to you, buddy. I love you, brother.
Welcome back. And you know, if this life is about learning and becoming a better person over time,
you really do what very few people do,
is took an honest introspection
and took the value of this time away
and allowed yourself to look back at social media
as a mirror and allowed to give,
you gave yourself grace, you gave others grace.
And then you're embracing by hosting a room again,
that this is, you know, as much as we don't like to think so, this is mass media.
There's a bunch of people in this room listening right now.
And, you know, we can let others undermine our goals to, you know, inspire and uplift or, you know, we can be triggered.
And you really did a growth process that very few people do
in a very short period of time.
And you were very earnest with yourself.
And I just wanted to commend you
for doing what few people do,
especially in that period of time.
And people will see, you know,
your growth.
And we're all growing in this process.
You know, I love the Lionsgate room
where we all got to communicate
and kind of grow,
be really raw and honest, you know.
And I thought that was pretty fucking amazing.
So I love you, brother, and I love you guys.
Love you, AJ.
Love you all speakers, everyone in the room.
Thank you, buddy.
AJ, I feel like that's when buddy really saw,
like, you know, what you kind of brought to the table.
There's me, he's like, no, no, get from my nerves.
AJ, no, no.
And it's like, Darren, AJ loves you. I can see it. I can feel it. I'm like, no, no, get from my nerves. AJ, no, no, no. And they're like, Darren, AJ loves you.
I can see it.
I can feel it.
I'm like, no, he doesn't.
I think it's a shit.
Do you know what I mean?
I apologise for my hot heads.
Do you know what I mean?
And me always sometimes seeing the worst in people.
Buddy's helped me see that.
You've just got to love people where they're at.
And with my sensitivities, it's a blessing and it's a curse.
And he's really helped me recognize
that not everyone's going to be able
to meet me where I'm at on that level,
but it doesn't mean that they're not trying.
And I really took this time away
to just be able to just meet everyone
where they're at.
So AJ, you want to say anything to Buddy
before I go to Marlon?
No, I really do appreciate Buddy.
He's really a mentor to all of us.
He keeps harmony and balance on this app.
I find people that can keep harmony almost gods on this app.
This app, you know, we could all go right.
We could all go left.
I'm not talking about politically, ideologically.
But you got people like Buddy who could be able to make sense out of the emotions here.
And really what everyone's talking about is sometimes Darren,
you know, complains to me and I don't feed into his feelings. I try to be almost emotionless with
him and say, no, what are you thinking about that? Think about this. I try to help people,
including Darren, including myself to focus on what they want, not to look back. You know,
Darren has brought so many people on this app together.
And look, a lot of us are from different circles, all different circles.
And this guy has the ability to pull everybody from those different circles together.
I find that to be a talent that I don't know anybody who else really has it like that.
You know, you have certain people that have their own belief systems.
They bring a certain crowd.
But Darren brings people from the mental health.
He brings people from the Trump side, from the left, from this, from that, and brings everybody together.
And I just, I get so mad at Darren because I'm like, you fool.
You're fumbling one of the greatest operations of all time in the age of information by bringing all of you together.
And you can't get your head together.
And he doesn't, you know, he wasn't liking that a few times. but in the end he knows it's right. And buddy knows that's right to come
together, keep doing what you're doing, bring people together. Like you always have brought
and you're doing something for humanity that I will echo in eternity, man, you've done a great
job doing it. You keep your head together and you'll be one of the greatest people on this app,
bringing all these different groups together. I would have never met half the people I know had it not been for you so I appreciate you
I appreciate that and yeah it's just not looking backwards isn't it and that's what I was trying
to say sometimes you get a bit triggered you get a bit in your own head in your own feelings and
whatnot and sensitivity is definitely a blessing and a curse but i took
that time away to just really release a lot of the stuff that was just being stuck on me and around
me just don't need it anymore marlin where you gone marlin come on i said marlin you wasn't on
the stage for that long he's probably at work matthew do you think he's at work uh i wanted
to hear from getting home from work probably is he getting home from work? All right, well, we'll see if Marley comes back up.
It's always a spot for Marley.
And you as well, Goats.
It'll be good to hear from you.
I'm going to be wrapping up soon.
Santino's on the treadmill.
Darren, I didn't know you were black.
It's a shock and surprise to me.
You didn't know I'm black.
I'm way blacker than him. There's no way. I'm way blacker than him there's no way i'm way blacker than you bro you lot stop it like seriously
i i kind of i'm very aware of you know that conversation of race like centino norwood was
in the space earlier and we were saying because we used to do the spaces on race about a year ago we do think
that it's a topic that we want to bring back the way me and Norwood used to do it you know and uh
I think that I think it's time I think it's time like it's good to laugh about it but it's also
important to I think hold those spaces where people can have those conversations we've done
it with uh Truth and Gypsy and Marlin we had race space, but we didn't have Norwood there.
I think we do it with Norwood.
That's going to be even more powerful.
So, look, we've got Marlon back.
Go ahead, Marlon.
I'm sorry, Darren.
You know what?
I'm on my way to a meeting.
I had a couple of phone calls coming in, so I'm sorry about that.
Look, I'm just happy you're back, man.
All right?
So, it was great to see
you show up today and um you know look i don't i don't think you need to be um searched through
your feelings you know what to do and you've been doing it since the beginning darren so
i'm proud of you and happy to have you back i'm coming from marlin that just means the world to me like this man runs these spaces
it's so like a tight ship like they're so educational such a community but you cannot
swear do not swear in marlin's space the moment you swear he's like and the way he does it like
everyone just knows it it happens very rarely but there was one time where someone pissed him off and i heard
marlin say the f word you remember that marlin that's hilarious thank you darren i appreciate
that and hey it's just i just don't think it's the right public forum it's that's the way if i
went to a town hall meeting i would not be talking like that so it's the way i consider this app you know that's the way i want to treat it so and uh saint tino av truth good to see you all and uh darren
i'm actually going to political event for my governor here and i'm just about ready to park
the truck all right we'll have a good event i hope the meeting goes well and i'm happy to be back you
know i i'm in marlin's spaces nearly every. Even if it's just for half an hour,
I just need to just be around Marlon's energy.
He's just got such an amazing energy
and he really brings some great people together
in his community.
So if you haven't followed Marlon, give him a follow.
If you haven't followed Santino, AJ, Melo B, Truth,
Derek, Leeloo, DJ, Goats, Buddy,
there's so many amazing people.
Look, Matt's here as well
Matt, he's probably at work as well
Matt's another one of my friends
who's given me that
space for me to process
what I needed to, so I love
you all, I appreciate you all. Vince has come up as well
Vince, we'll get to you soon. Let's hear from
Peace and then we'll hear from Vince
and then we're going to close up. Hey, can I play a song
out before you... Yeah, you can play the closing song. No problem, Derek. Over to you, please.
Hey, Darren and AJ and everybody. It's good to see you. You guys know that I don't do these spaces
very often. I just wanted to say that Darren, you are an amazing energy. And when you set aside fear, you will be unstoppable.
I don't, you're going to have to figure out what that means for you. But it's just,
you know, we're going to be facing a lot of interesting and scary things in the next
few months and years and you know the thing is what they're going to try to do is to make you
afraid and force you into a fear response and so the truth of all of it is that we are immortal beings and this is not who
we are um it's a place that we all came to to um to learn and share because you know when you're
in paradise you you don't understand fear you don't't understand, um, uh, you know, uh, rejection. And, uh, all I can
say is that Darren, when you set aside fear and you have every reason to do so,
you're going to be more powerful than you can even imagine.
So, my friend, nothing can touch you.
Nothing can hurt you unless you allow it.
Wow.
I'm going to have to kind of sit with that one and let that resonate for a bit.
I feel like, yeah, there's a lot of fear, you know?
I've had to go through a lot, you know?
But I think it's about controlling it, isn't it?
You know?
And not letting it overtake it.
Darren, it's not about controlling it.
You don't have to control anything.
All you have to do is breathe and live and be fearless. I mean, your human body, black, white, otherwise, you're a tremendous talent
that you haven't even begun to understand yet. If you just set aside the fear, you will be unstoppable and you'll take your place
where you need to. What's coming up is going to be really scary. So if we allow ourselves to be sucked in to the fear, which is how they control us, how they've always controlled us, that third dimension hate, then, you know, they own us and they can't own us without our own consent.
So and I am attacked by demons a lot.
You know, I'm nobody special.
I'm poor and I'm old.
But when demons attack me, I simply tell them, you have no power over me.
you have no power over me and I brush them aside.
And I brush them aside.
And, you know, when we understand that we have that kind of power,
every one of us listening to my voice has that kind of power,
then the demons become irrelevant.
I mean, they can run in their little squirrel cage and do whatever they want to do.
But, you know, life is not about fear.
It's about love. It's about calmness. It's about silence. It's about those moments where we
communicate with our loved ones without saying a word. It makes me emotional to think about how pure that is.
And we all have gifts if we allow that pure heart to exist in this dimension without fear.
I love that.
Buddy is what he's saying, resonating.
Well, you know, 100%.
Great to hear all this love in the room and wisdom.
I mean, let's face it, I'm basically a soldier.
But the truth of the matter is being a soldier is not going to make the world peaceful.
Being a human, and that's the toughest thing in the world,
being a human is going to solve the problems of the world.
When we stop trying to say, well, I'm smarter, I'm faster, I've got bigger guns, I've got this
and that. And of course, we have to be strong in those ways. But we also have to recognize that moment when we say to people, you have nothing to fear from me. And I hope in
time you'll understand. So fear is the way they seduce us into slavery. Because, I mean, we can't, I mean, I remember before I came here, I remember
being in heaven. And it makes me understand that my death is not important. And I wish that
everybody could understand and remember where they came from and who they are. And fear would no longer allow them to manipulate us
into the crap that we deal with every day.
Memento miori.
Say that again, DJ?
Memento mi ori.
You know, fear not death.
Everything that peace through strength
I've said has just really resonated.
I love everything that you have said.
I appreciate you, man.
All right, well, you know, I feel exposed speaking this long,
so I'm going to kind of sit back and let everybody talk. But you know, I don exposed speaking this long, so I'm going to kind of sit back and let everybody
talk. But, you know, I don't say much. But within this group and within humanity, we
have the tools to just set aside their crap. And all we have to do, I mean, we don't have to be weak.
And, you know, I mean, I'm the crazy old guy that none of the, I mean, I live in a pretty
crappy section of town and none of the drug addicts or any of that will mess with me because
they know that I have no ill will towards them.
That I have no ill will towards them, but if they move against me, then I'm not afraid to be ruthless.
So, I mean, life is here in the third dimension.
Life is understanding that our goal is to escape to a better way of life without fear.
But while we're here, we have to be able to, without passion or hate, deal with everybody else's shit in a way that's not going to consume our naivete or our pure heart.
That was amazing.
And that really resonated.
I'm going to let Derek play his song.
And then we've got Vince, then Buddy.
And then we're going to hear some final thoughts from Santino and AJ.
And then we're going to hear some final thoughts from Santino and AJ. And then we're going to close out with Melo B.
who did I,
who did I say?
Oh my God.
I just said all those names.
Derek.
You said Derek.
All right.
There you go.
There you go.
He's been a co-host.
There you go.
Derek,
you got your song ready for us,
bud.
It's ready.
Go ahead, Derek.
Love to hear it.
I wrote it.
I wrote it. Thank you. Governments claim their own land. There's violence, suffering the physical law.
The voters are other expenses are the threat of the border. The straw lines, we're not at the right anymore.
And yet we are told to fight his heart to flee, to obey,
for something not for silver, to begin with again.
And then comes the great life.
Fiat's, paper, digits, counterfeit dress, that's value.
The leash of kings, the color of bankers.
They make us trade our lives for it, as if it were real, but it is not. And so, you're reaching, completely.
No man, I'm not this yet. The audio is off. The shit
no we do not so we do not so we do not
so we do not
anyways it won't wait for us
for you guys time
love you Darren
yeah you're welcome Derek
it's a little bit muffled
but we did
we did hear it
so thank you
thank you for that
glad you was able to
share that with us Derek
and be safe out there in Mexico
alright so it was Vince,
and then Buddy. We've got Arius come up in here, and Melody. Vince, good to see you, man. How you
been? Hey, pleasure to see you again. I've been great, man. I just wanted to say welcome back,
and I'm looking forward to see what you bring to the table from here on out. As always, you know,
you're a great guy, great mind here on on x i appreciate what you do and everything so happy to be here and what
a pleasant surprise so welcome back thanks vince how's game tech i think he's doing well i'm not
sure is he still on the apps until you know knows game tech something Santi knows everybody. Is he still doing his spaces?
He is.
Game tech, yes, he is doing his spaces.
Sorry, I'm just focused on this.
I don't want to fall off this machine.
Yeah, he is still doing his spaces.
He did that on purpose, Darren, I know you did.
Santi knows on the treadmill. I'll just play with him.
No, it's good to see you, Vince.
It's good to see you.
And yeah, no, I had a bit of a break.
It was definitely unexpected.
But what was required for me to just, you know,
transmute a lot of icky, energetic stuff
and come back more fresh and more myself, right?
So I appreciate all of you guys coming and welcoming me back
and also updating me and all what's going on in X.
Not like I didn't know.
Obviously, everyone knows what's gone down with the Charlie Kirk stuff.
But coming here, it goes deeper, doesn't it?
All of the conversations, all of the conspiracies,
it's just like, just today my mind is already like,
and you lot have gone through this for like the past week, so yeah, it's nice to have a space where
we can just kind of release and process it a bit, so nice to see you Vince, go ahead buddy.
Thank you for letting me speak again brother, you know, as Peacemaker was speaking,
there's wise words, it made me think about fear and a lot of different things and you know as peacemaker was speaking um there's wise words it made me think about fear
and a lot of different things and you know kind of even a motto maybe of this room or a theme of
this room today and hopefully is you know if you're learning you can never fail and we're all
learning and you know if we're thinking we're failing we're wrong if we're learning because you know even exculpatory data
is valuable to improvement and getting better so if you can't fail you can try the impossible
you can try the extraordinary and the impossible only lives in your fears i've seen extraordinary
things i'm an old feller too um and i live in a very what's essentially a war zone in America, the Bronx. I could
tell you about two shootings within one block in, you know, one week, literally within one
block. And you learn and you see people do the extraordinary. I see you guys do the extraordinary
and I see stuff with phenomena and other stuff that's just mind boggling. So I know that
the impossible only lives in your fears. So, you know,
let's do this.
Love you guys.
Love you too,
buddy. Such a
pillar of the
UFO community, and now you've become
a rock for me.
Like, seriously, if I
don't hear from him, I'm like, buddy.
Where's buddy? Do you know what I mean?
He's like such an amazing guy.
So thank you.
Thank you, buddy.
And all that wisdom and strength and grit that you have, I appreciate it.
Arius, did you want to go?
And then we've got coach with his hands up.
What's up, man?
Haven't seen you in a while, bro.
How you doing?
Hey, listen, Not much, man.
Just watching how everybody's taking...
They're trying to navigate through the broad ideas of what could have happened, what might be happening.
and it's interesting to just listen to people's perspectives um so as to
And it's interesting to just listen to people's perspectives.
gives me like it gives me like an idea of where the playground is at so if the plague and i call
it a playground because you know you got your far left and you got your far right and then the
playgrounds have every everything in between um And it's just interesting, man.
I had to take some time to myself as well.
So you're not alone in that.
Did he cut out?
I think so. I thought it was just me oh he's he's um gone down to listener well
thank you arios we are going to wrap up i think he was just coming to welcome me back i appreciate
all of you guys that come and you know welcome me back it's been such a lovely space and i'm
looking forward to all of the different spaces that we're all going to collaborate on together.
I co-host with so many of you and that's what I like.
I don't like just having, like, you know, just two people that I co-host with.
I can understand why people do that because you create this kind of, you know, click, tight knit group and community where people don't really seem to be able to kind of like
worm their way in like i i'm not going to co-host with everybody but i still all of you on here
other than peace i think i've i've worked with i'm going to continue to do that why because i
like shifting the energy and i think everyone that you work with is different brings different
flavors and different spaces so i'm looking forward to it we haven't done a space
in a while goats me you dj men's mental health space i know you've been missing me we're gonna
do that saturday goats have you been gone darren shut up what's up hey i you know i already got my
welcome back with you this morning,
so I let everybody else get their hellos in and everything this morning.
What's up, Santino?
What's up, AJ?
Everybody down there.
Truth, DJ, Mel, Alien.
Was you happy to see me? Was you happy to see me this morning?
Was you surprised?
I mean, you know, it was just another Tuesday.
You know, whatever. It was all right Yes, yes, darren. Yes. I was happy to see you. I was very surprised this morning to see you popping
Alan said there's a no way this motherfucker didn't message me first. Come on
Yeah, so yeah, it was good to see you man. Good to see you. Um
Yeah, I tell you what dude, uh uh the men have been going crazy in here
the last like three weeks i mean they're just going off off the fucking wall they don't even
know what to do so yeah we gotta start some men's mental health spaces back up dj dj and and jeremy
have been been carrying the load in the recovery spaces for us that's uh that's that's that's
keeping us going yeah so missed some stories, though.
You missed some stuff, Darren.
You missed some stuff.
I know, but that's what it's like.
When you're not here, you're forgotten kind of thing, isn't it?
And I don't necessarily need to be caught up.
I was dealing with my real life, right?
I'm back now, and I'll just flow gently back into the swing of things, right?
So what are we're gonna do we need to think of a
title for for saturday me and dj will say maybe something around trauma or something i feel like
there's a lot of trauma that is being constellated i feel like america's literally being traumatized
with what's happened so maybe something about how we deal with trauma. I'll tell you about some trauma. I, were you, were you here? Did you,
did you catch my, uh, my interaction at the grocery store with the, uh,
the, the short one?
What the midget coach, the midget.
Yeah. Did you, did you, you heard that? Okay. Okay.
I wasn't sure if you were here or not.
You told me guys. That was funny.
Okay. All right. All right. I won't retell.
Good to have you back, Darren.
It's lovely to be back. And it's always,
this man makes me laugh so much. He's just,
he's that one that when I'm down and when I'm sad,
I can message him and I'm like, go, just tell me a joke.
I don't even have to tell him what I'm going through.
He's able to lift me up just with his personality and his character.
Like, you know, like AJ, AJ just kind of like, I always felt like he's invalid to lift me up just with his personality and his character. Like, you know, like AJ,
AJ just kind of like,
I always felt like he's invalidating my feelings,
but he's just being strong and trying to toughing me up.
And he's not letting me fall into an emotional abyss.
Like I get it now.
I get it.
Buddy,
someone is like,
you got a bogey in your nose.
It's not all about you.
Sort yourself out.
I appreciate it.
Tough love. Tough love, Darren. Tough love.
It's been tough love. And I was like, do you know what?
I'll give you all a break from me because I'm so dramatic. Yeah.
I'm going away and let me sort myself out and I'll come back when the
universe brings me back and I'll come back less sensitive, more stronger,
more focused on the purpose, more focused on the intelligence.
Still having that heart, but
not being overtaken by it.
It's about balance, isn't it?
And I feel like my time away has really
helped me see that that's what's required
balance for all of us, you know?
So I just want to see if there's any closing
thoughts from
Santino and AJ. I don't know if
Santino's still on the treadmill but any closing
thoughts before we um hear the lovely melo piece can i get in one one more before the co-host here
real quick and then of course of course yeah yeah so so you know a lot of the gen xers we talk about
like you know the hard growing up right like the boot in the ass right that's what i was the boot
in the ass well you know the boot in the ass it really is That's what I was, the boot in the ass. Well, you know, the boot in the ass, it really is a hell of an analogy for a good way to raise a child.
Because what the boot, if you think about it literally, the boot in the ass, okay? So the
boot makes contact with the ass, right? And that lets you know that you've done something wrong.
You fucked up because there's a little pain when the boot hits the ass, right?
But then what it does is it lifts you up and it propels you forward That's that's the beauty of the boot net. It's not a boot on your neck
It's it's it's pain to let you know you fucked up, but then it's also a gentle little push forward
I really love it
Sometimes we have to be pulled back before we can be propelled forward right and sometimes you have to know when the universe is creating those
moments for you to be able to take that pause so that you can really process and the only way is
forward from that point you know and that's definitely what I thought was happening for me that sometimes we can get too caught up in in these spaces too um distracted with all of the
other people's dramas stories and emotions and me being a highly sensitive that was definitely
happening to me and I was giving too much of my own energy away and I needed to be able to just
take stock and recalibrate and come back with more focus and more
of myself. Do you know what I mean? I feel like it was just getting too clouded. So yeah,
it was definitely needed. Thank you for that, coach. I'm looking forward to the space
on Saturday. Santino, any final thoughts and then we'll go to AJ?
Yeah, thank you so much for having me up here, i'm sorry hey jay it's rubbing off on me what
you were doing thank you so much darren for having me up here one thing you need to know
is that you are definitely definitely missed i'm right now in the washroom because it's really
loud out there and noon chest but while i was working i was still listening to you i still
respect you and i still appreciate you i think now we have to start really appreciating each other,
appreciating what we bring to spaces,
bring to a platform,
not disrespecting each other.
You're greatly missed.
I want you to know that.
You bring something really important to spaces,
to X in general,
just your presence,
you as a human being.
And that's really, really,
it's really, really important. so I'm just letting you know that
And thank you everybody for coming all the listeners that came in
All the speakers everything I really
Appreciate you and sorry I wasn't talking
Along because I was walking going to the gym all that blah
Blah blah stuff and boy doing
Chess is like a bummer it hurts
Anyway
Thank you so much go ahead AJ sorry
Keep getting pumped Santinoino keep getting pumped and
i missed all of you like when i went back into alan's space and i just heard alan's voice and
um goats was there and some of the few others i was like oh my god i haven't heard these guys
in a while there's just something about everyone's distinct voice that it really does
capture us it really does and And you lot miss me.
I miss all of you, seriously.
But it's nice to know that I have a place here.
I feel that is important because I feel like sometimes things can happen
and you don't feel appreciated or you feel like people have taken you
for granted, you know?
And I feel like I just needed to just really not be put in that position
anymore.
So I appreciate you for saying that, Santino.
You know, I've got, you know, Tracy and Coffee and Bacon, right?
She used to get on the elliptical in the morning.
And I've got a recording of her on the elliptical because, you know, that out of breath voice is, you know, can be.
And I'm just I was just hearing Santino there.
And I may have to make a recording of you, Sant be and i'm just i was just hearing santino there and i may have to
make a recording of you santino i'm telling you everything's always so sexual with this man you
see that i'll just go just stop it stop it all right aj any final words listen great space um
again they try to distract us we stay focused they we stay focused they try to distract us. We stay focused. We stay focused. They try to divide us.
We come together.
They poison the food.
We try to create our own food.
They make satanic music and we bring in somebody like Mela B to bring in the music of the angels to bring in that light side.
They do it loud.
They do it on TV.
They do it in front of everybody.
We shut up and we do it silently together.
And before you know, we'll sneak in a new world underneath their nose that's
how we went i love you guys melo b i'm so sorry to keep you waiting girl let me just say um thank
you to those that are still here truth love you matthew he spoke to me in hawaiian today uh that
was amazing thank you guys thank you dj buddyitas, Rabbit. Vince is still here, Skinny. Matt as
well, going to speak with you soon. Del's still here.
Danae, everyone who stayed,
it's been a lovely welcome
back space. We're going to be playing
that. Love you too, DJ.
We're going to be playing that with the lovely Mel
Bean and I'm going to close the space, guys. So
Mel Bean, thank you for being there. Thank you for
all the contributions. It was so heartfelt
and thoughtful. But then, most importantly, thank you for your song and sharing your gift with us over to
thank you thanks for coming back Darren you have been missed it's always good to hear your voice
and um but I always encourage people to take some time you know it's important. We got to take time to bask in our emotions,
understand them for ourselves,
and then we can reenter the chaos a little bit
with a little bit more clarity, hopefully.
I definitely should have tuned my guitar before,
but this is a good opportunity.
Well, Melby, I have a stupid question for you.
I have a stupid question for you.
Yeah, what's up?
Like, what microphone do you have?
Like, how are you able to do that? i'm great i'm literally on my iphone
like with like uh speakers you have like the wires or you have like bluetooth
nothing i'm just literally like my phone is in front of me um on a stand like i have this little
stand that i put it in all right sometimes sometimes it's just like I'll put like two pillows in front of me
And that's like my mic stand and I just put my phone on those two pillows
It's very fancy guys. It's genius. It's genius. It's so fancy
Anyways
Fuck I haven't sang this song in a long time
It's it's one of mine.
And it's... I forgot about it.
And I'm gonna try and get through it.
You'll see why. How'd we get here? I know there's more left untold. They've taken our souls. I'm
dealing as untold. May I raise a fist or a question that is too close to the line, I've come to realize
We hold our own disgrace, we've seen our better days
But this hope I do maintain will make it out, make it out alive Some say it's just fate Must I participate in death before dishonor
If your honor is a fool And I don't like it here
I've become so insincere
And I can fake a smile like it's my day job
We hold our own disgrace
We've seen our better days
This hope I do maintain
We'll make it out, make it out alive
Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh-oh
Oh-oh-oh-oh, we'll make it out, make it out alive
Make it out alive
We hold our own disgrace
We've seen our better days
But this hope I do maintain Oh my God. I'm just like crying. I can't sing.
That was beautiful. Thank you for that.
Thank you everyone for coming and welcoming me back and I'll see you all
again soon.
Thank you so much. Mello. Love you, Darren. Love you, everybody. Love you too. I'll see you all again soon. Take care. Mello, thank you so much, Mello.
Love you, Darren.
Love you, everybody.
Love you, too.
Adrian, I'll give you a quick call.
Take care.
