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DeSci, What did you get done this week? #3 (try 2)
Recorded: March 7, 2025 Duration: 0:29:39Space Recording
Short Summary
Fringe Protocol and Kirtopia's bio-dow auction mark new project launches in the ecosystem. Peptide Dow is exploring partnerships with leading institutions, highlighting strategic collaborations. The narrative around decentralized science (D-SI) is shifting towards greater awareness, indicating an emerging trend. Optimism about the long-term impact of D-SI projects suggests potential growth in the space.
Full Transcription
Hello, welcome back to this episode of DISA. What did you get done this week? This is episode number three and Erin McGuinness behind the account today.
I feel like there are so many cool updates being announced this week, as well as lots of recaps from ETH Denver last week as well.
And I know there are a whole bunch of really cool things.
People are making progress on behind the scenes.
Overall structure of this event each week every Friday is about 90 seconds to two minutes for each project to share what they got done this week.
And to give kind of those updates into the ecosystem so others can know how to best collaborate and also get hype about what each project is building.
I guess on that note, happy to welcome some folks up or invite you guys up to speak and give some of those updates as well.
Or any other upcoming events that you know about too.
I think these spaces are a great time to share about upcoming things happening that either you might be hosting or you know might be happening in the ecosystem as well.
Cool. Peptide Dow are you synced up right now? Can you hear?
Yeah, all good. Can you hear me? Yes, welcome.
Hi. So are we doing the what did you get done this week?
Yes. Update. Okay, well, it was a very busy, but a very fruitful week for peptide Dow.
Because we were at ETH Denver.
which I'm sure many others were to, yeah, it was just incredible to connect with other people in the D-Sy space and listen to so many informative talks and hear about what people are working on.
It's truly super exciting.
But I'd say, what did we get done?
Well...
We were on a panel and we also did a pitch, which was super exciting. We connected with
a lot of cool individuals for some potential collaborations, which are in the works, which is
really exciting. And I met some great VCs and also some really interesting people in
crypto who are now just learning about.
the depths of D.S.I. Which is super exciting. I think last, at the end of last year, when I was in Southeast Asia, people in Crypto generally were less familiar with what D.Ci is, but now there's a lot more awareness, which is really exciting.
And yeah, so it was basically a massive networking session for us getting our core mission out there so people know about us and, you know, are excited about us.
So, yeah, that was kind of our week.
I could go into more detail, but I'm going to keep it brief.
That's amazing.
Yeah, I feel like there were so many super cool connections made as well as other things that are starting to be in the works.
Are there any hints or teasers you can share of any possible collaborations, things we can be keeping our eye out for coming through Peptide Dow's pipeline?
Sure. Wow. I mean, there's so many. They're all in the very early stages, seeing if, you know, collaboration will be possible. But maybe I'll give some hints towards peptide manufacturing. Some other hints towards men's sexual health.
and some partnerships with some leading, like, top institutions in the world, which is really exciting.
So I'll just keep it at that.
I feel like that's such a wide range.
That's amazing.
Super excited to see what's coming down the pipeline there.
And I know we've also discussed getting some things going,
getting the next generation of scientists and people possibly interested in DSI into the broader ecosystem as well,
introducing them into different possibilities down this path.
So personally, I'm super excited for what's to come on that front as well.
Yeah, I'm super excited as well. I think it's so important to, you know, be open to a next generation of scientists and innovators in the space of DISA because
It's a very embracing community and, you know, being a very young founder myself, it was just so exciting to know that I can innovate and disrupt and be involved in science now and I didn't have to spend years doing a PhD.
So, yeah, definitely excited to be bringing on board this next generation of scientists.
Awesome. I think I might have been muted, maybe Rug pulled myself, but yeah, super excited for what's coming down the pipeline there and for more scientists to explore the pathways within D.C. as well.
Cool. For anyone just joining in.
This is a weekly space to kind of share different updates from different projects.
So people within the ecosystem can stay updated.
If you have any questions about DCI as well, this is a bit more of a free-flowing space.
So that's...
It's a good place to ask some of those questions.
Yesterday, there was a space.
I can pin this up above.
On WTF is D-SI.
So that's a really great episode to kind of create that introduction into D-SI and get an understanding of...
of what's all happening in the ecosystem, different kind of pillars that are supporting the whole movement.
From my perspective, I define that as kind of the intersection of communities and people,
coordination with incentive alignment mixed with some of that data infrastructure, technological infrastructure layer, and
and then just making sure all of those kind of financial incentives or other reputational incentives are also in place to appropriately support different scientists or data contributors too.
and a whole bunch of different examples of what that can look like throughout the whole ecosystem.
So I've pinned up above that space or event from yesterday, so definitely recommend checking that out if you have not already.
Cool, earlier today, we got a brief update from Fringe Protocol.
They just launched today, so that's another really cool update from the ecosystem.
Happy to kind of share that into this space since they were on earlier as well.
Let me find that post. I know
Yes, No Error also had a really cool update.
They were just posted in nature and had some cool commentary there,
how that might be able to change some of the scientific landscape.
So excited to see updates kind of from all different angles throughout the D-size space right now.
Another happening this week, Kirtopia and rare diseases.
Their bio-dow has an auction open on Solana right now.
Let's see if we can get these pinned here.
So those are a few other updates that I know are top of mind within the D-Sai ecosystem right now.
A lot of really cool things going on at the moment.
A few different updates on Mew's Matrix, causality network side of things, also on a personal
front.
Spent a bunch of good time in Denver.
Got to meet some of the peptide Dow team, which was super awesome.
Super cool to be able to meet in person.
There were a whole bunch of really cool orosai events tying into longevity in the greater
D-Sized space too.
a few different combos going with different kind of regional hubs on the Muse Matrix front to get more D-SI fellowship cohorts going in person.
have come over to LA right now and have some convos going with different communities here,
possibly with a smarter with science community.
So definitely be on the lookout for that.
And then on the causality network side of things,
continuing to mostly chat with different chains and make sure that the scientific data,
they're kind of...
kind of onboarding into their ecosystem or different DCI projects they're supporting are just sound DCI projects.
So those were some of main focuses on those two fronts this week.
If any of you know folks in the L.A. area or in San Francisco as well, there's some cool D.S.I. or science projects.
kind of generally related events coming up over the next few days next week, also pairing with
the ethosf week going on next week. So those are a few different. If you know people in those
areas would love to send invites out for them to join those events too.
Hannah, while you're here, would love for you to share any other takeaways you might have had from your time in Denver, any other interesting trends or convos or sentiments about D.S.I. as well. Definitely.
I think Denver was a great place to connect with people.
I mean, I don't know how you feel, Aaron, but it felt like there was a lot of people attending in the DISA events, which was so nice to see.
It always makes me happy when there's like no empty theatres when people are speaking.
So it was so nice to see a lot of faces there.
General sentiment, I mean, maybe this is something that I touched on earlier, but definitely
more people in crypto, because I was going to a few crypto events as well, it wasn't just
D-SI.
And yeah, when I was speaking to people about the project that I'm working on, Peptide Dow,
and that it's in the decentralized science ecosystem, they seem to know a lot about D-SI,
but I think the first project that came to mind was Bioproticle.
So it's nice to see that the narrative is shifting in a way that people are becoming more aware.
But from other people that I spoke to, some also said that, like, you know,
oh, it's all memes and like meme coins and stuff, which was disappointing to hear, of course,
because, you know, the majority of it's not.
There's people who are doing real science and actually making progress.
So I think general sentiment is that more people are aware of what D-Sy is.
However, what they do know is that they may see it as like some kind of meme.
Some people see it as like meme coins, but then there's other people that see it as, you know,
all this is a really exciting space because it's the, it's one of the few, um,
It's one of the few niches that are actually tackling real world issues, which is also very exciting.
So I think...
We need to continue building and continue pushing the narrative that we're actually doing real science,
that we're making a difference in the world, and hopefully people will view it less as meme coins.
I don't know how you feel about this, Aaron.
I think it's a generally really fascinating topic to get into, probably not on the theme of what did you get done this week.
But I think it's really interesting to see how this narrative is going to evolve as DISA grows.
Yeah, I definitely had a lot of similar convos as well.
I felt like I had to be doing a lot of like D-SI janitorial services of just cleaning up the reputation in the broader ecosystem that all they'd been exposed to so far was just the meme coin element of what's being built in D-SI and, um,
And once I told them like, hey, actually there's a ton of other projects and they're doing all these different types of things.
And here are different things I'm supporting and involved with that.
At a deeper level, they're like, oh, wow, that's super cool.
So I think a lot of it comes back to more of that sharing and invitation in and,
learning from the meme coin ecosystem of how to get viral effects to get some of this to expand
out into their mind space as well.
Yeah, it's a shame that we like have to convince people that D-Sy is actually real science.
But I think it's because the ecosystem is so small.
You know, there's so few projects that exist relative to all the other, I guess, avenues in crypto, right?
So I think it's because it's so tiny.
All eyes are on us and every move is kind of being watched.
So, and that includes the bad, the good and the bad.
So I think when people see the bad, they're like, oh my gosh, okay, it's all meme coins.
But I think, you know, science takes time and the results will prove themselves.
So, yeah.
Yeah, hoping for that as well. And I think long term, they definitely will. But we just need to make sure the projects doing really cool stuff are able to be supported long enough to make it around until then.
Do you have any ideas maybe leaning into some of the next gen conversation as well around how to do a better job of this as an ecosystem?
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I can kind of draw from my personal experience here because I found out about the D-SI space kind of mid last year and I was,
Honestly, everyone was so embracing and welcoming and that was so nice to see.
And I'd been considering a PhD for a very long time.
My background's in biomedical science.
And I've worked in various labs in the UK.
But yeah, I was considering a PhD and I was like, do I really have to spend, you know, four, five years on...
a single thing that moves very slowly and to have, you know, relatively small impact when you
compare it to the world of D-Sai. And I was able to get involved straight away. And I, you know,
worked with Cerebram Dow and one of the working groups on the deal flow. And I was like,
this is so exciting because I can actually do science now. And I can, you know, build and innovate and disrupt and
That was really exciting for me, but back at university, no one knew what DISA was.
A few people knew what crypto was, but no one had any idea what DECI was.
And even now to this day, when I speak to my friends, I'm like, you guys, you know, I'm trying to teach them about it and I want them to know more because it's not, this kind of information isn't really accessible to people at university or even at high school as well.
Yeah.
because it's not the traditional pathway, right?
So less people know about it and I wish that more did.
So I'd really like to develop kind of like a movement where
younger people can get involved very freely and young people are educated about DCI
and understand what is the space, how they can get involved,
you know, why it's an alternative,
and just make sure that this younger generation, this next generation of scientists, have the knowledge to be able to enter the D-Sy ecosystem if they want to.
So, yeah, that's kind of my take on it, and I'm really excited to be able to spread the word of D-Sai to my generation and younger.
Love that. Yeah, that really is what will allow this to continue forward.
Do you think the wording or phrasing of D.S.I.
Will resonate with that audience because some people, I guess just in different types of sectors,
like it's more or less appealing to them.
Do you have any gut reactions to like the word D.S.I. and...
if that is good
like wording to lead with for
onboarding kind of the next genin.
I think
it's more about like understanding
what the word means
rather than the way it sounds.
because when I first heard the word desai, I had no clue.
I mean, I knew it standard for decentralized science once I did some research,
but I had no clue what that actually meant or what it meant to be decentralized.
Because, you know, growing up and being taught in school,
you never get taught about decentralization.
So you never really get taught about centralization either.
in the context that, you know, there is centralisation versus decentralisation.
It's more so just this is science, but it's a traditional science world.
So I think it's more so being able to understand what DCI actually means.
And that comes with understanding the problems in traditional science,
like all this gatekeeping and siloing of information and problems with
you know, research is getting funding and research is having to spend 30% of their time looking at grants instead of doing science.
It's about understanding the fundamental problems with the way science works now and how D-SI solves those problems.
I think another thing that adds to the mix is the fact that kind of just within the people I know my age in their early 20s or even younger,
what?
generally are not super active on Twitter and I feel like this is where most of the information about DCI resides.
So I think it's also about expanding to different social media platforms that's able to target this kind of younger generation so they're more aware.
I know.
A lot of people my age, we spend time on like Instagram and TikTok and not a lot of time on Twitter.
So I think it's about expanding beyond Twitter to these other social media platforms so that we can engage some younger people so they can understand what DISA is.
Absolutely. I know we've chatted through that a little bit as well. And I think there's so much footage out there of different conversations about DCI that even just splicing some of that into clips and posting that could be a first step. Then obviously getting voices.
and kind of leaders that people can see themselves in and relate to in a much deeper level,
will be able to create that connection even more and probably do a much better job of onboarding all those folks.
And so excited, you're so excited about this topic.
Yeah, I'm definitely very excited.
I can't wait to jump on it and begin.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely, definitely.
I guess on kind of the university front of things, are there any...
like clubs or do you think having like ambassadors or being top down from professors?
Do you have any insights into or inclinations into how some of that outreach might be most engaging?
Or do you think it really does start from like TikTok or other social media platforms and then
words spreading through that type of route?
I think it could be done both ways.
I mean, I know from like a personal point of view,
I went to King's College London and so that allows me to be very connected there.
I know ambassadors there who are actually one of the ambassadors for kings and kind of leadership there, he's actually in crypto, which is quite funny.
So, yeah, I think there's, you can definitely do it kind of the top down approach and go through the institutions, although generally it's not easy to go top down via institutions.
But I think like leveraging...
each of our personal connections with universities might be a good way.
I think there's a lot of societies as well.
I think that's a good way to enter.
There are so many societies on so many different topics.
And I think that's a good way to create more of like an informal.
a positive learning space for students.
But at the same time, I think bottom up is also really interesting.
I mean, social media, especially like platforms like TikTok have a lot of opportunity to gain exposure.
Like a lot of videos go viral.
So I think that's also another great way to get exposure from the bottom up.
But at the end of the day...
A lot of people, I'd say on a more global level, TikTok and Instagram and kind of the social media bottom up approach is probably best.
But for more targeted learning and depth of knowledge, I think the top down approach is better, if that makes sense.
Definitely, definitely. Yeah, I feel like effort on all sides is probably the winning strategy, but starting there makes sense to kind of get some of that outreach or get some of the conversation into the right years of the right people.
Cool. Well, I think this was a really solid dive into how might we be able to engage the next generation of scientists or de-scientists coming into the space and
I'm excited for what else is to come on that front.
Definitely follow along with Peptide Dow and the D-Sai Mic account to stay updated on some of those
kind of broader, more public conversations that we're finalizing the dates for some of that right now.
And if you know of any kind of earlier career, younger scientists or developers as well who might be interested in D-SI,
definitely funnel them over this way and we can get them kind of introduced into the right people
or right projects, whatever is most aligned with them. And we just want that good talent to be
having that impact. And I really believe that DECI is a great way to be able to help enable it
as well.
If you haven't yet checked out some of the things I pinned up above, these are a couple of different recaps of things that have happened this week as well from the broader D-Sy ecosystem.
So definitely check out and scroll through some of those posts.
I can pin them all or post them all down below as well.
So those are some of the things I've been keeping my eye out on over the past week
or that have come across my radar.
Hannah, are there any other things that you've been seeing in the ecosystem?
I do know you've been tied up at Denver though, so totally understand
if it's not necessarily tweets or posts to pin.
Honestly, I wish I was more aware of what was going on.
I'm very laser-focused at the moment on what's going on with peptide Dow.
I'm sure you're a better source of knowledge, to be honest.
But I guess just like final remarks is it was super great to connect with you
and connect with everyone in Denver and hear about the latest,
spiciest upcoming projects.
Yeah.
and yeah, super excited for the realm of DCI.
I have to actually hop off now.
But thank you so much, Erin.
Yeah, thanks so much for joining.
I do know a couple people have reached out recently as well with some super spicy DCI topics.
So we'll probably have some fun convos over the next couple weeks on those fronts as well.
Awesome. Well, thanks so much to everyone for tuning in. If you know of any other updates, definitely feel free to post those down below. And we'll see you back here next week, Wednesday, for the regular weekly session at...
5 p.m. UTC and then on Friday still trying to figure out a good time that accommodates
different time schedules or time zones and but we'll be back with week number four
D-Sai what did you get done this week so thanks so much everyone for tuning in
And if you have any other ideas or thoughts on these topics or on DSI generally or verifying scientific data, community building, or expanding the DSI ecosystem, definitely reach out to me at Erin McGuinness.
Thanks. Have a good weekend. Bye.
