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DeSci what did you get done this week? #5
Recorded: March 21, 2025 Duration: 0:55:57Space Recording
Short Summary
The conversation highlighted a new project launch aimed at funding decentralized science initiatives, the launch of the Megapy token, and the use of innovative governance mechanisms like conviction voting. Trends in DCI and NeuroTech events were noted, alongside challenges such as NIH budget cuts impacting research. Smaller universities are seen as potential leaders in innovation due to their agility. Various grant opportunities, including the D-Sai Gitcoin round, are supporting projects in the ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Yeah, hi everyone, so pardon me, there's, I think there's an issue with your mic,
because I couldn't hear anything, but what's some like, like distorted noise.
Yes, it's not getting better, I mean, it's...
All right. Is it any better, any worse?
Yeah, it's excellent enough.
Okay, perfect. I took off some headphones, so that might have been the issue.
Okay.
Cool. Well, I'll just repeat a basic beginning intro. Welcome to the D-Symec. This week is
episode five of what did you get done this week. Space to dive into project updates, as well
as upcoming deadlines or events. Rakan, I believe you might be involved with some things
that have upcoming deadlines. And also would love to hear any other updates for
from your side if you want to kick some things off?
Yeah, yes, thank you.
So I joined today specifically to talk about this new project of mine
that we started with Lundco.
And it is a framework to fund the decentralized science initiatives in novel ways.
And so we basically envision like a framework where projects are not isolated from each other,
but kind of support each other, like standing shoulder to shoulder in a designated space
and where projects receive continuous support through...
through streaming mechanisms and once the projects are mature enough, they return,
they give back to the community to support more projects and this creates the flywheel effect
and it becomes a hyperstructure in a sort in a mathematical sense. So and to kickstart that we
We spend some time actually devising our
our concept and our documentation.
And the last time we spoke a few weeks ago,
we had a draft of our white paper.
And we actually advanced quite a lot since then,
because like exactly precisely one week ago on March 14th,
on the Pi Day, we launched our token.
and the token's name is Megapy because the total supply is 3.14 million tokens.
basically one million pie tokens.
And we are happy to have first contributors.
And a few days ago, we distributed our first batch of tokens to our first supporters.
And we have established in the process of establishing our governance on gardens, actually.
And it's a super interesting platform because it allows to,
to use a conviction voting for decision making.
And I, this is, this is something that you don't
see that much in D-Sai because most established organizations they use the simple
token-weighted voting, which is not optimal and with conviction voting we believe it's like a better
it has a better mechanics to capture actually the community desire towards certain outcomes and it has a
like a number of benefits in comparison to just basic
pocket-weighted voting.
And so these are our developments.
And so we hope to garner interest from projects
that are looking to be supported continuously
in the course of upcoming few months.
And we have a feedback forum
posted on our website, which is hyperdeside.xyZ, and we are looking forward to supporting
Dyside projects and be the part of our experiment. Thanks.
Amazing. Super great updates. Are there any links or tweets that we might be able to pin here
for people to find out more information?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So should I post it myself?
Yeah, I'll be posting it in.
Great. Yeah.
Cool.
Those are super great updates and I think some really awesome mechanisms to try and
help continue pushing DCI forward.
So excited to see how that all plays out and what types of projects or advancements
might be able to be supported through that.
Yes, totally. So I invite everyone to look at our website. I'll be posting the link shortly and subscribe and we'll try to be involved. We'll be posting our updates regularly.
And we are looking forward to having more supporters on board and distributing more tokens and
We invite everyone to join us on gardens as well and see where everything goes.
Maybe we have something interesting on our hands.
Yeah, thanks.
Cool. Awesome.
I wanted to invite Pamela or Sean up here as well.
I feel like I've seen a couple interesting posts from you, Sean, over the last handful of days.
So I would love to also chat about anything that might be top of mind within the D-Sy space for either of you.
Pamela, if you're able to share any updates on the Muse Matrix cohort side of things, as well as from the Athena Dow.
recent reports, would love to hear those updates as well as anything else. Cool. I guess I can share some different upcoming events. Orsci has their hub in Boston. Now getting more and more activated. I know stays having an event with them or maybe they just recently did. Um,
So those are a couple things to keep on the radar.
I'm in San Francisco right now and we'll be having probably some more DCI and NeuroTech events in the upcoming weeks.
So that should be a fun time too.
And then obviously, D-Syde-London, which is April 12th and 13th.
If you're looking for an excuse to go to the UK or have interest in getting involved, definitely reach out and can get you looped into those combos.
But welcome, Pamela and Sean.
Pamela, if you want to kick some updates off, that'd be awesome.
Yeah, thank you, Erin. Good to hear you and hello everyone.
Yeah, so we're here, there is a student revolution.
So the university where we were supposed to start the cohort is closed for the students, but we find another place.
So remember the Mexican cohort is starting in 31.
of this month and we are going to start with some workshops more focused on programming in D-Sai.
in different languages and also in different blockchings like ICP,
Stellar, Ethereum, Bitcoin.
And it's very interesting because we are going to go deep dive
into the code to boil some daps in DISA
and also to understand what is behind to smart contracts
that protects the IP in some data, scientific data.
So yeah, basically we are working on that and also we have the DISA day the next month in Mexico during ETH Cinco de Mayo and we
We are waiting for some sponsors to start the track the DISA track so also we are going to have a
mentorship there if you are interested in participate in the area of like an AI agents or more focus on
daps in Dysai, please don't hesitate to reach out to Dysa Mexico or me.
And what else? I think it's all. We are writing code and we are excited for that.
Because I think like the biologist, like biologists, it's an amazing thing to start to coding and start to teach others how to code.
to link blockchain with science. So yeah. Amazing, super great updates and didn't, I guess,
fully know about some of the, like, student or university shutdown. So how are, how is that
side of things going?
Yeah, I think the director of the university, she said that she wants to talk with the students and take all the petitions that they want.
But these don't happen, so the students are there, so waiting for all the things that they want happen.
So I think it's good.
It's talk about, good about the students because they have conscience and they want to change inside.
Also, it's a good opportunity to have this type of free education.
So let's see we can do inside of this movement.
Like we don't have the normal classes, but we can have.
other type of free classes like about blockchain or muse matrix.
But it's interesting and I think they will change something around the installation because it's more focused in the area of science, of course, because we don't have enough materials or things to do our practices.
It's good. It's a good movement. For me, it's a good news.
That's great, Ben. Yeah, sometimes it takes some of those shifts or bigger action to be able to make some of those changes.
So hopefully that keeps progressing in a beneficial direction overall.
Exactly.
Amazing.
Sean, would love to pass it over to you.
Welcome.
Hope you're doing them.
Sure.
Thank you very much.
And as usual, I'm still working on the second edition of Blockchain for Medical Research book.
I love the forums that you and others host because I get to hear about all kinds of great projects that I'm,
diving into as time allows. I had a busy week teaching students this week, so I got to
spend a lot of time going through their references and their literature, which reminded me of
the vastness of the science that we need to
engage with with D.S.I. And so, you know, it's a, it's a long-term effort. And there's big picture
visions and there's individual projects and these bottom up and top down come together.
A couple of announcements, and I forget if the paper had been published last week, but I published
a conceptual framework on technology-assisted biomedical research. I call the framework
science in Machina, it's really taking the five layers of trust that are built into our current
system of biomedical research, then looking at how automated complex information processing
and usually in the form of AI and how automated governance and compliance with that governance
usually in a D-Sai way can fit into there.
It's also got a call for papers.
I put these both up in the chat related to AI and D-Sai.
If anyone has papers that they think fit that description,
please submit them.
That'll be open for the next six months or so.
We're also with a group I'm part of in Pittsburgh,
Praxis Science, setting up a refuge for scientists.
We call it terminus off of Asimov's.
end-aligned planet that was also the start of the first foundation for any sci-fi fans.
Right now it's a Discord channel. We're setting up some in-person events in Pittsburgh
for people in science who maybe are adjusting to a new reality. So, you know, networking, a collaboration,
job skills and those things are what we're aiming to provide.
So check that out.
Like I said, the Discord channel is up.
You can give feedback on the website.
I put that in the chat as well.
And then another group out of DC that I'm part of
is called AI Mind Systems Foundation.
And we've gotten
some traction over the last several months, but definitely in the last few weeks with some government agencies that in order to adapt to a new reality of more efficiency are looking at our health care and life sciences focused efforts to give individual patients control of their own data, especially in DOD and VA. That has a concept that we've been talking about with people for five years now, but it's starting to
come in demand for the new reality.
So I don't really have much.
I can share on that besides we're being invited in some conversations,
which have been exciting.
So that's what I've got,
but I love seeing all the activity and all the great work
and the great forums on D.Sai here.
So appreciate it.
Amazing. Added those up above. So for anyone that is interested in either submitting a paper or supporting some of these efforts, definitely take a look through the different pin tweets or posts up above. Pamela shared some from Ducine, Mexico as well.
Okay.
And then also a post about Hyper D-Di and some of the grants framework that RACON is working on.
Sean would love to stay updated with especially some of the points you were making towards the end.
So looking forward to when you can share, when there are more public things, seeing what's happening with that group, too.
I did post a link to a write-up, a customer write-up that Intel did of us,
which has some of the general concepts and frameworks.
So that will give you at least a sense of what I'm talking about.
But that's the AI Mind Systems Foundation,
where I'm co-founder and chief scientific officer.
Amazing. Super cool.
So many awesome ways for...
scientists as well as different D-Sai project builders and founders to get involved.
And now I see a couple more names down in the audience of different founders and projects.
So if you're in a location where you're able to speak,
I'd love to hear some updates from your site as well.
Otherwise, for you...
feel free to post anything down below in the replies,
and we can get that pinned up above or shared out here too.
Cool.
In the meantime, for those of you up on stage right now,
are there any other...
topics or themes that seem to be a bit more recurring or popping up, whether that's directly
in the D-Sy space, maybe broader conversations that just seem to be pretty top of mind or
something that you might be spending some time thinking on lately.
I guess from my perspective, there seems to be a growing appetite for traditional scientists
as well as doctors to be able to get involved with startups and looking for more mechanisms
to get involved.
I've had a few conversations on that type of theme over the past week or so.
So I didn't know if there's anything kind of coming into your guys' spheres.
Go for it.
So one thing that I've been noticing, this is just more of a general trend that, you know,
it doesn't speak to, you know, a confirmed fact, but, you know, obviously NIH budget cuts have,
in the biomedical sciences, really put a damper on.
planning for research here in the United States.
I know talking to people in different journals,
they're seeing almost down 90% journal submissions from last year.
So I think there's going to be disruption that feeds out into the journal,
the publishing industry, which definitely opens up some opportunities for different DSI approaches.
But at the same time, engaging with those
those universities with the with the traditional science,
especially where you know,
you may be raising funds for a rare disease,
but you don't have the funds to, you know,
fill a whole lab with all the equipment that you need.
Partnering with universities often makes sense.
But what I'm seeing is, here in Pittsburgh,
University of Pittsburgh gets 700 million in NIH funds.
They're taking a major hit.
There's, they've frozen,
hiring, they're going to need new ideas. But when people are in panic mode, we learned during
the, you know, the pandemic, they don't always have the capacity mentally or financially to go after
new approaches. And so they kind of freeze. But what I'm seeing is in some of the smaller
universities, my own Duquesne University, where I'm just an adjunct professor, there's less
of a reliance. Duquesne got, you know, the
under $2 million from the federal government or from the NIH last year for biomedical funding and does a lot of its own internal funding.
So normally these smaller universities trail behind the big universities, but I think they are less...
less damaged by the current disruption in the biomedical sciences at least and i think they may be
able to more adequately lead the way in um novel approaches uh you know i was talking with a you know a
colleague the other day and i was uh you know comparing it to when the asteroids hit and you know
in the you know whether this is how
what happened to the story we tell and the asteroids hit and the, you know, the dinosaurs were wiped out,
but the small mammals that were agile were able to, you know, burrow in and survive and, you know,
resulted in humans, rise of humans. I think the small universities are more agile, more independently
funded or funded across multiple sources and are going to be less frozen over the next year or so
in trying new things. So I encourage people, I mean, obviously, if you've got,
contacted a university, a big university, and they've got funding outstanding.
But maybe when you're reaching out and trying to find people to work with,
don't forget about the little universities because I think they're going to have a
nimbleness that mirrors that of D.Sai.
And they may be the right kind of partners that,
you know, that bridge between D.Sai and TradSai needs in the coming year or so.
So just thought.
That's a really interesting perspective.
And I think,
really good balance that some of these other universities that might be used to some of those bigger budgets might feel a bit paralyzed by the current landscape and other ones that didn't take as big of a hit or blow.
able to just kind of continue moving forward and might be more responsive to different invitations or opportunities to engage.
I feel like that point hasn't really come up in conversations, at least on some of these these design my conversations.
So that's a really interesting perspective.
Pamela, Rakan, Pure Air, if you have any additional thoughts along this line or other thoughts as well of things you're seeing, I'd love to hear your perspective too.
Erin, can you hear me?
Yes, welcome.
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks guys.
And this is Yi from Peoria.
I'm one of the co-founder there.
And I want to share this week I was in the Vila Institute, which is one of the bigger biodiversity
conference.
And it's quite well, it's organized in Switzerland.
And I got a chance to sit down with the editor-in-chief, Maglana, who is the editor-in-chief of nature.
the whole nature portfolio.
And we discussed quite a few things.
But one thing which I find is interesting
for the design space is collaboration.
My personal view is, sorry, I didn't get a name,
the previous gentleman who mentioned the small university,
lack of funding.
Actually, lack of funding is across a lot of place,
but smaller university might be particularly badly hit.
But meanwhile, during, so she made a keynote speech.
Her speech was about how to collaborate between different research organizations, different NGO, different university,
in this, when with this funding card, with this unstable environment.
And then for me, when we are building on the D-Sy space, yes, we can say short academia,
but in reality, I think it's more important to collaborate with them and explain to them that
By the way, you have funding cards here, but there is a community here potentially.
You can publish or you can do peer reviews and you can access to additional funding.
And because I think she was not fully aware about the yes and no reference by the nature,
but then we were discussing some other things.
She got really interesting and then I showed the guy's yes and so did on the nature,
a feature on the by the nature report and she was quite impressed.
And she's certainly getting more interested in the design space.
So I think for me, just want to add the point about the collaboration.
I think that's important. That's it from it.
Yeah, this week we had Adam Draper on on Wednesday, who's been very much pushing the short academia narrative.
But I think part of it is, at least in the broader ecosystem, I think there's still a lot of energy of like, okay, we have to collaborate with some of these different opportunities or structures that still exist.
and also keep pushing the bounds forward.
So I think there's space kind of across the board for each of those,
each of those different approaches to really be part of the whole equation of making science better and getting better science out there.
Cool.
Yeah.
Open litter map would love for you to share any thoughts from your side or updates of things that you might have gotten done this week. Any upcoming events to welcome.
Hey everybody, thanks for having me.
Sean here from Open LetterMap and LitterCoin.
Just on the collaboration front with universities,
I would love to partner with universities,
but here in Ireland it's actually not possible.
To partner with the university,
you have to transfer your IP.
your intellectual property and that is fundamentally incompatible with my open science and open code ethos.
A few years ago, I partnered with the University College Dublin, who took inspiration from my work, used my app,
They applied to Science Foundation, Ireland, received over 200,000 euros in grant money.
I joined all of the calls, shared all of my ideas, and was unable to receive a penny of funding.
The professor offered me a contract to join the university, but if you join an institution here, it is required that all of the IP you generate is owned by the institution.
despite 95% of the web being built with open source code,
it turns out that when your monetary paradigm is not open source,
the custodians of that monetary system have a vested interest
to restrict access to open source code.
That's my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory anyway,
but I think it holds some legitimacy.
I'm pioneering citizen science here in Ireland since 2008.
I thought the launch of the iPhone was a significant event for humanity.
We now have 5 billion people connected online.
Most of us have not received any training.
There's institutions that claim authority over health and education,
who have not lifted a finger of consideration when eight-year-olds get always online access
to unlimited doom scrolling machines.
And as custodians of digital technology and as the world's first globally connected generation, I think we have a responsibility to fill the gaps and do things, orders of magnitude better.
So my app, it's about collecting data on litter, but that's just the first application.
This is a real world.
engagement, it's inclusive, it's empirical, right? There's a lot of talk in the science community
about climate change, but CO2 is an invisible odorless molecule floating around in the sky at a
parts per million. I'm interested in the empirical real litter and plastic pollution that you can
see and pick up. It's got a very low barrier to entry. But yeah, I'm working on a huge refactor version 5
and we're migrating from very simple tags,
which are mutually exclusive.
So you might have a photo of litter.
And you could add a tag like a beer bottle,
coffee cut, Budweiser, but there's no relationship between them.
And in the newer system, there's going to be relationships between tags.
So we're going to create much better quality data.
And this is like open litter map.
It's post open street map.
It was invented as the the real time integration layer for open street map.
So it's quite academic.
And I need to transcend now.
It's academic philosophy.
So I'm pivoting soon to litter week.
It's a new campaign.
So most week-long interventions happen at specific weeks, but with the litter week challenge, you decide what week you want to take the challenge and you can repeat it and it's flexible and it allows for more social inclusion in science. I think citizen science is
crypto's biggest opportunity. It's Web 2's biggest opportunity. It's humanity's biggest opportunity.
Because there's 5 billion people connected online. We have yet to scratch the surface of what humanity's data collection capacity is actually capable of.
and what it requires, I think, is a compelling narrative,
which I think hopefully will be litter week,
and an incentive, we've got Littercoin,
world's first geospatially produced climate currency.
So yeah, a lot going on.
I work by day as a software developer,
so I'm lucky to get five or six hours per week,
but that's what I do with my free time.
Everything's open source.
and yeah, trying to empower people to remove their devices from their faces and actually rediscover
the real world around us. Cheers. That's amazing. Thanks so much for joining in and sharing a bit
about your project. That's mind-blowing to me that all of the
All of the IP has to be transferred into Irish university systems.
Is that for all of the universities or just public ones or within a private system or is it kind of universal across the board?
It's universal in Ireland anyway.
We basically just copy whatever England does traditionally.
So, yeah, they haven't figured out open source.
There's no open source public offices.
There's been a few academics talking about it for years,
but these institutions just move so painfully slow.
It's not an option yet.
But I'm pioneering citizen science by myself here in this country
and doing things I think better than all of the public institutions combined.
So they're going to have to catch up sooner or later.
I did have an email for the first time from a new minister for science and innovation who follows me on X and he's definitely interested.
But there's lots more to do.
Any progress would be great.
Yeah, always lots more to do.
I think I saw pure air come off mute and then after that would love to throw it over to Sean.
I think I saw you had a hand up.
I just want to add, so I'm on the advisory board of Imperial College Business School.
So I think nowadays the UK education, the university they are changing.
There is a pre-contract process.
I think as we can discuss, we can make sure that documented well,
what's our own contributions on this research process.
what we want to achieve, and we agree with the university,
there could be a split.
It can be a IP speed, it can be a revenue split,
but that's something can be done nowadays,
at least with Imperial.
Cool, awesome.
Yeah, I think there is more kind of experimentation
with some of the different models happening,
just as there are more different business models
across the board as well,
but Sean, I feel like you have some good knowledge in this space.
Yeah, I wanted to comment on that too. It's definitely a challenge area. And while it's not as absolute in the United States as all the universities, most of the major universities are pretty grabby with IP when it comes to any research spinning into, you know, into spinoffs. I know people who've
who've literally taken three to five years of leave
from the university to go start their own company
because they would be owned by the university otherwise.
And then I know people who've created their own company
while at the university,
and the university becomes an impediment to,
monetizing that or commercializing it because the university is one of the worst partners in the world to have and and and their tech transfer offices aren't um they aren't very good at navigating the entrepreneurpreneur your landscape they like to say we're the big kid in the room and we own everything um the the the the path
around that or through that, at least in the states that I've found,
is one, you have to be selective with the universities.
Two, if you need someone's brain power from the university,
get them to moonlight outside rather than you working with them internally.
Now, if you're getting generally typical sources
of funding into the university,
you're going to be playing by the university's rules.
But if you're bringing in funding through a Dow,
if you're bringing in funding from a D-Sy approach
and you wanna work with someone in the university,
It's a little tedious, but you can work with the tech transfer office to set up different
methodologies and different contracting.
I think that was what was being said before, different contracting methodologies, but it takes
time and it takes effort.
And it's one of those walls that's going to have to be brought down and brought down with
funding from atypical sources, which is where as the current universities are having
trouble because if you're if you're losing a few hundred million dollars that you're used to having, you need help.
But they're also not quick to learn new tricks, but the smaller universities, I think, are a better approach, at least in the states.
But you need to talk to the people who are there. You need to understand what their tech transfer offices stance on IP is and how flexible that is.
And then you have to negotiate.
appropriately and and bring resources to the table. So I think it's, uh, it's, it's, it definitely is an
uphill challenge to bridge across trad, and D.Sai, but there's, you know, there's,
several hundred billion dollars worth of infrastructure sitting in
TradSai universities along with probably 95% of trained scientists.
So depending upon what you're doing, that's where the bulk of the brain
power and existing infrastructure resources are.
So unless we're going to replicate all of that in DSI,
building across that is going to be necessary.
And it's going to take time and it's going to take some learning processes on both sides.
Definitely.
I know that within the D-size space, there have been some different projects that have...
like successfully built out collaborations with different universities,
but always getting that first project kind of through the system within that university
system, like if it's a whole kind of connected ecosystem or that individual school always is a big
lift at the beginning. So hopefully as more projects are collaborating in kind of
overall mutually beneficial ways.
We'll be able to see more acceleration there.
Rock on.
Yeah, thanks.
I just wanted to comment on...
the situation with the universities.
So there's like high demand of high demand on board the scientists to the Web3.
Yeah.
And there are specific hurdles to that, like in terms of, it's not evident, it's not like right
the way obvious what needs to be done.
So there are.
There are quite good onboarding vehicles such as Muse Matrix actually to provide the necessary
education to scientists that want to work in a VAP3.
However, like on the other hand, there's a
There's a question of funding and actually our framework is designed to address this gap specifically.
So we are aiming to support scientists that are willing to work in Web3 by continuously helping them out with funds.
So we envision it as some sort of like a salary.
Okay, with basically no strings attached.
The only requirement is that when the project matures enough, like down the line, when it's financially sustainable and independent, it actually on a voluntary basis contributes back to the community.
So that's the only requirement and that's the framework that we want to test.
So I invite everyone on this call to actually look at our documentation and maybe apply for this first rounds of our...
for childs. Yeah, thanks. Awesome. Yeah, I feel like this is a really important overall conversation to be had and ensuring kind of updates or progress or routes of navigating each of these different university systems will help us all keep pushing forward.
Ed, wanted to welcome you up to the stage as well.
Thanks for having me up, Aaron.
Yeah, things are going pretty well with my project.
Regenerative agriculture is really catching on over the winter course off season.
We have a lot of our farmer consultants that sort of travel the world and put on talks to help spread what we're doing and gain interest around the world.
And it really is catching on.
It's just had so much success.
And of course, now the public's really starting to understand the quality of food that we get more and more data in through our metabolomics work that really shows the difference in food quality that we can produce if we change the way we grow food, the power of the microbiome.
And, of course, people are getting into their gut microbiome, so they're starting to understand that.
Nutrient density continues to shock us the difference when we change our practices, how much better our food can be.
We just had a podcast out a little over a week ago with a citrus grower that used to actually work in the pesticide industry for many years.
And he decided to retire a bit early and
had some land and wanted to grow some citrus and connected in with some regenerative ag people.
And spent a year or so before he finished up, kind of watching podcasts, listening to what we're doing.
And so he's now into his, he had his first harvest this last year and he
found a farm that was commercial real close to him that was growing the same varieties that he was growing
and sent the samples off to labs to get analyzed.
And he was just shocked again at the variation.
Basically, he was expecting maybe a 50% or maybe 100% increase in some of the things that you think are important in any particular produce like citrus.
And it ended up averaging out at 800%.
And many things were much, much higher than that.
And he did some marketing.
He had to charge quite a bit of money for him for the first year
because it's first year a crop.
And he's put a lot of effort into growing it.
So he was charging a decent amount.
But he sold out.
And everybody was just ecstatic with what...
what they got. He did some taste tests, in fact, with people where he would give them a sample of one of his,
as I said, same variety. And he had grown in the same area, same environment.
They'd give a sample of the commercial grown and people would say, oh, this is pretty good.
And then he'd give a sample of what he grew and they were just, everybody was just like blown away, you know.
the aroma, the aftertaste, the depth of the flavor.
And of course, now we're realizing we're really starting to get some attention from the medical community.
because we realized that, you know, the food we've been eating is really quite hollow.
And it's probably had an awful lot to do with their health.
So I'm just waiting for our young CEO that's a part of the project who's in a scholarship
program in China right now.
So it makes it really hard to get him on a space because of the time difference and
get him back in closer to our time frame so that we can work a lot more.
It's difficult when you're 12 hours apart trying to get things done.
And we're getting a lot of interest, I think, maybe because of this funding problem with universities and stuff,
we're getting a lot more interest from...
young people that were, you know, in grad school or whatever and they don't have the projects,
they don't have the opportunities that they had and are thinking about, you know, doing some
things in the outside world, even if just temporarily getting some experience that way.
So maybe we can get some good minds that way.
that normally would have ended up in grad programs or even working longer in labs at universities or something,
get them out into the D-Sai world outside of academia.
So things are looking good for, and spring is sprung.
So things will start happening again soon in the farming community.
That's great. I feel like I've had a handful of convos over the past couple days as well, just on not necessarily like scientific convos, but just about how much we should really be focusing on the sources of the foods we're eating and just what a wide spectrum of from a nutritional quality as well as like other chemicals that might be on it.
And how much of a toll that can be taking on our health. So.
Hopefully that will become easier for people to continue navigating as these convos are happening more frequently or at larger scales.
And I mean, all that comes back to a lot of the work you're doing.
So thanks for sharing all those updates.
I see a couple other folks down below, Lilypad.
If you're able to share any updates from your side, welcome.
Good to see you.
D-side Gitcoin as well.
I believe the Gitcoin around Gigi 23 is open right now.
So that's a great place to get some additional support and amplification for especially
super early stage projects.
And I think there are a few other platforms looking to help at that stage to continue pushing DCI projects forward.
But that one's open right now.
I think I saw, at least for some of the rounds, it might be open until the 31st, so about another 10 days.
So definitely get any applications in there.
I feel like we covered a lot during this convos, some great updates as well as some good discussion on just how to engage with universities and kind of the traditional ecosystem.
D-Sigget coin, welcome.
Thank you.
Hi, Erin. Thank you.
Sorry, thanks.
I just suddenly joined into this AMA.
So I'm not sure if this is probable right times to share this.
message during design with episodes.
Yes, thanks for your introduction.
This is Chief Evil behind Design GIC-Con working groups right now.
And this is the fifth time that we run the community runs
who supports the design projects during the GICON grant.
In, in, in, in, in our summary that in the past, we hold four different rounds and in total, we support over 200 projects over there and overall matching fund is over 700 K.
And this is a fifth time and that we look for.
holding community around which supports the design projects.
So this time we have the 5K matching fund on the set of chain,
which is we allocate in USD growth dollar.
So that's why we want to support the USD growth dollar,
which is the only one that stable cause that they can
re-impose their revenue back to support the public goals ecosystem.
And once your application is eligible, which is, for example, have a three milestone on the Kama gap,
and also you have the contributing in design ecosystem, at least six months to one year,
which is eligible to participate these rounds.
So I just shares the link in this space at this moment.
Thanks for everyone, for providing these opportunities to let me share about this message to all the different design projects, fund us here.
Thank you.
Awesome. Thanks for having that link ready and being able to share it here. Always such a great ecosystem to build out those connections and get that support. So thank you for making all of this possible and continue to be possible through each of the different Gekcoin rounds.
Yeah, and thank you for your research contribution about the design landscape analysis, which is very important insight.
So this is, I would say it is unique.
analysis that you send out the questionnaire for all the participants in the Gigi in the
Kikon grant community before and then ask for full detail information and doing the analysis
over there combined with the other contributor so it's good to have a look about the
design landscape analysis by a rent and you will have a full picture about design of
course it is
I guess you are doing the second phase, which is looking in more depth in the whole ecosystem,
not only the kick-on desire worlds.
Yeah, so I would like to look forward for your probably thing about the second phase.
Yeah, so a while back we did an analysis of like,
projects from D-SI projects from the D-Sai ecosystem,
did a landscape report or analysis there.
And then the second phase was actually completed a little while ago.
So there's a publication out on that as well.
I think some of the future phases of it might be a little bit like,
split up between some of the different authors that had contributed to the earlier phases.
So lots more perspectives to be shared on DISA landscape progress.
And I think at least I've seen more articles written by more and more voices, which is great to have
a wider range of different perspectives, covering what they're seeing in the D-Sy space, rather than it being a bit so centralized.
So a lot of cool reports coming out.
On the flip side, though, I feel like I've also seen a good number of reports that
aren't as grounded in the reality of the DCI ecosystem as I would like, or they're super biased
towards a couple projects that, I mean, it's likely sponsored, but so hopefully we'll see
good reporting or analyses on the DCI ecosystem continuing as the space keeps growing.
Awesome. Well, thank you for some of those updates. I have a couple minutes left before the top of the hour.
If there are any other thoughts anyone has on things top of mind in the D-Sai ecosystem right now,
or maybe any other updates or upcoming things that you might have forgotten to share or remember now.
Would love to hear any of that before we sign off.
Feel free to just come off mute if you have anything.
All right.
Otherwise, thanks for the combo.
We'll be back here next week, Wednesday, focused on D-Sign Next.
With Hannah from Peptide Dow, she's leading that community, and it's really focused on the next generation of scientists, as well as D-Sai builders, and creating space for them to really kind of...
find their foothold and keep moving forward or help welcome them into the larger D-Sai ecosystem.
So if you have any ties to different student communities or younger founders that might have ties into the D-Sai space,
would really love for you to share that invitation for them to join that conversation.
That will be at 12 p.m. Eastern time.
on Wednesday, so the typical time there. And then we'll be back next Friday with
what did you get done this week, episode number six. So definitely share it with any other
projects that are doing awesome things that you think we all need to stay updated on their
latest progress too. Wonderful. Thanks so much for joining everyone. I hope you have a great weekend.
Thank you, Irene. Bye-bye, everyone. Thanks. Bye.
