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Developing Jungle Bay Island [Episode 2]
Recorded: Jan. 30, 2026 Duration: 1:14:33Space Recording
Short Summary
Jungle Bay Island is set to launch as a community-driven platform, leveraging strategic partnerships and innovative token mechanisms to foster growth and engagement. With plans for interactive experiences and a focus on authentic community involvement, the project aims to redefine how users interact within the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. um
uh um heads up if everyone listens yeah i was i was just let some people come in because I don't
want to start too early let people uh you know share it and whatever and uh just give it like
a minute or two before we we kick off Thank you. music JP, do you have any links that people would want to reference so we can pin them and people can open them up before we start talking about it, though?
Or are you going to share as you talk?
I will send you over on Discord the link, but please share it after I introduce it so that i can talk to it before people get into the
link you know you're saying share it after we tee it up right yes i will send you the link now
but don't share it yet got it okay good to see some uh familiar jungle Bay MFers here.
We're excited, man.
Look, we got this vision that we're trying to fine-tune and chisel,
see what works, see what doesn't for Jungle Bay Island because there's a real opportunity, man, with years under our belt, building the right way
with proof of work over time under our belt for four-plus years now.
And then having linked with JP, who is a true visionary as a builder,
we see a real opportunity to,
like, look, how many of these tech,
like, clawed this and that,
and I'm, look, I'm not saying it's not amazing, right,
but what it leads to is just the slop,
just a bunch of people thinking they're a fucking genius,
typing some prompts, and then they got
a company and we're going to see a compounding of that occur and the real scarce the the scarcest
resource is going to be authentic, real community, which is hilarious because like that seems like it would
be the easiest thing, right? It seems like that's like the no brainer, but what we've seen over time
is that it's difficult to sustain and to preserve
and to establish a continuity
to different people's contributions
to whatever the project is.
And what Jungle Bay Island has come to represent
is a unifying metaphorical place
that even though these different meme projects
and art projects and whatever that our different community members are working on and passionate
about, even though that they're very different, they're not related in any way, what the thread The thread is the authentic and genuine passion for it.
That's what binds people, or that's what resonates and has made people gravitate toward what we're trying to cultivate on the island.
to life, to breed layers, to find ways to actually measurably
tee up opportunities that compound for people to benefit over time
from time holding these different projects.
And then also to have a cross-pollination and power in numbers,
rising tides lifts all ships,
mechanism in place to be able to,
if a project is planting a flag on Jungle Bay,
it means they've passed a certain threshold.
It means they've been
battle tested it means that they have um people involved that are
motherfuckers mfers to the core whether or not they're sporting one they're there they are
the way that they have um shown their character is aligned with what many of us attribute the MFers ethos to, which is, you know, buy your own bootstraps.
No one is coming to save you.
People that pursue innovation because they genuinely love it and they they're willing to put in the reps they're willing to take the the battle scars
that come with it because if they don't they'll never uh forgive themselves i think a lot of us
resonate with that i mean a lot of us it's not easy to be in crypto sometimes it's not easy to
be in crypto even in your lives around people that are otherwise
very intelligent very uh on point but they don't they just don't understand crypto never it doesn't
resonate so we gravitate to a different calling here um and that's what's something that we all
share in common especially if you're
here during these absolute bloodbaths in the market. It's not for the faint of heart.
And we don't want faint hearts around here. We want lion hearts. That's how you build
something over time. So yeah, look, it's recorded you know it's a tough time of day it's friday
morning um i think we should just uh let's see here let's i don't usually say like and share but
uh i don't know man this is this is kind of cool what we have cooking i'd like people to be able to
see it and you know what we what we're doing here right is like people to be able to see it. And, and, you know, what we, what we're doing here, right. Is we want to, we want to test these things in real time. JP,
you know, we talked during the week and we, uh, we try to put together some, some ideas and fine
tune how this is all going to come about. And then JP is able to put it into action. The goal
is that every Friday or every episode that we do these to have real-time feedback
to what we're building and try to see what works, see what doesn't adjust if needed,
which is definitely going to be needed, I'm sure.
And, you know, we're also, it helps us crystallize the best path forward for us.
And you can only do that with real input.
If we're just sitting here winging it,
going with our own opinions
and not getting the actual sentiment
and feedback from the community,
I think we're missing a major component
of what's achievable.
And I also want to say hi to my
my dog dr robotnik what's up my brother how are you
green super good to see you too how you guys doing yo my dog living life one day at a time
you know one day at a time brick by brick isn't it let's go um so yeah let's fucking and i see some people uh
some familiar jungle bay motherfuckers piling in love to see that i know it's a tough time
in the morning that's why we're recording the spaces so people that miss it are on different
time zones i see cilary in the fucking building i know it's 5 30 in the morning for him over there and i was over there down under
fucking that's that's love right there someone to wake up 5 30 on a friday just to tune in to
build on the island man you love to see it you'll love to see it i think i think i've seen a tweet
from you where the nine jungle bays were like crossed off and one was one was the
from you where the nine jungle bays were like crossed off and one was one was the giveaway
was one i mean that was the mean death match number seven um the winner was filthy tricks
we had some fucking legendary uh artists that you saw their their pieces i'm not sure actually if
you came because i did the mean death mess space after but yeah them shits are in the burn address
with a lot of others man i think there's like like 30 I've sent to the burn address so far.
The ones that are disrespected and tossed on the floor over and over and over.
It's like, fuck it.
We're going to immortalize these.
And then also the one that wins, even though it also was one of the 10 disgusting, unwanted
jungle bays, all of a sudden now it's infused with incredible art you know that the the as a
lore that's tied with it so it changes the memetics of that fucking shitty eight and makes it uh
more desirable i would say you know and then the others they're dead they're gone forever RIP JP Yeah let's
Hold on
You're rugging
I can't hear you
Say that again
You gotta do something about your
About your mic bro
I can't hear you
I don't know if it's
You there about your mic bro i can't i can't hear you i don't know if it's uh
you there
oh mayday mayday he's dropped down he's we'll uh send him i'm gonna send him uh
i mean remove him from coast and then send him
where's he at there we go i think he's yeah so like dude he this motherfucker
is built different he's been cooking bro um and we have a lot of ideas right dude who doesn't
love an idea guy right but actually putting these into into execution or actually executing on these
ideas and bringing them to a place where they're accessible.
Keep in mind, this is still early stages.
Like this is not what the platform is going to be.
It's just the next phase of it.
But the general idea is rewarding people,
A, that are part of the different home team projects.
So whether it's a vibe team,
vibe collection from a home team artist
or a DRB holder, a banker holder, a Pepe holder,
whatever the home team memes are
that have bungalows on Jungle Bay Island,
there will be a compounding benefit.
And there's gonna be bungalows
that we're making on the island.
Each of them will be for the individual project and in order to contribute to the project you got to burn
jungle bay memes the native token of the island so to add a different asset depending on the type
of asset is that whether it's a store whether it's a uh you know something like what what
green spurs building and the central land whatever is, it ties back to that central point for the bungalow.
You got to burn jungle Bay means
you got to put skin in the game to contribute to the bungalow.
And there's going to be access, ideally,
this is not locked in,
but the idea is that there's different parts of the island
where you're gonna,
where you're gonna be able to, uh, uh,
only access based on a heat score based on, and the heat score is, you know,
the combination of, uh, you know, the, the different tokens that you've held,
but that you've held over time. Um,
I'm trying to invite FLA up where,
so we're giving more weight to time than size so we're giving more weight to time than size
we're giving more weight to time than size and we're giving a compounding effect so if you're
holding multiple jungle bay home team projects you get a compounding effect to what's your heat
score is and what you're able to access on the island and on the island you can be able to
hopefully uh do some fun shit to mine jungle bay memes right to be able
to unlock ways to burn them and build on the bungalows i got i got two i got two things real
quick one can you pin the website or to the yeah no trust me i got that on deck i'm waiting for jp
to come back he got rugged um and then i'm gonna do. I told him I would wait for him. I don't know why.
I don't know why FLA's, though, is not coming through.
Let me cancel the invite and send it again.
Hold on.
You want to know what I've been doing?
Yeah, talk to me.
Look.
So I ended up building the island, like, the first two days.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, it actually doesn't look that bad.
Like, I don't have that much land, but I still have a lot of land.
So we're good, dude.
But, yeah, so I built it.
I deployed it.
It looks kind of nice.
I don't know if you guys check my timeline.
I don't think nobody does.
But, like, so now I'm working on the functionality i brought i got lucky um because i'm retarded you know that right um so i brought found my friend
i found my friend uh that actually taught me sdk in the central and way back when
this guy yeah bro uh this guy's still here and he's like yo i know bro i know and so i'm like
yo dude um like fuck i might have forgot a bunch of shit right um like help me out because i've
you know i haven't been in descentra in a very long time bro yeah bro this guy's like yeah bro
he's like what the fuck this is what i love doing i'm like yeah boom um so this guy's uh this guy's
working on it with me he's like yo bro i'll just fucking uh i'll just
do everything with you um shout out this guy because uh this guy's actually legend um one
of the best 3d modelers i've ever seen and game devs i've ever seen um but so i was talking to him
um because you know i was uh i was telling him i'm like yo dude uh we're trying to fucking
integrate minecraft and we're trying to integrate even to Central Land
and a bunch of shit, right?
He had some concerns
I'll wait
for JP, but
I was curious
like, you know, because obviously
bro, you gotta build this forever, right?
Yeah, and also
those were just kind of initial concepts
then we go in to actually investigate the feasibility. Okay, why is JP not able to come in? Does anyone know how to look at if somehow he got like yeah you got the little you'll see like two people together on your phone on the
bottom it's like two people you click on those two people and then scroll to the right it'll say like
removed or stuff like that send me call host i'll help you okay i got okay try now and then um got
it yeah i got some questions for you cacosta what pick your green what's up fla always good to see you
bro you too bro so um with this new clod bot is it are we able to get a bot for jungle bay
and um put the banker plug in and and we all like try to have it building also with us in public? So there's like, like there's a, you know,
the building in public is kind of,
you don't want to give it too much where everyone's just like putting their
hands on it, right?
You want to get feedback and then be able to go back to work,
come back and, and show what we've got and get input. And then, you know,
fine tune from there, et cetera, et cetera.
So I don't think it would be like, just let it go wild.
But I do think there's ways to incorporate these agents.
And I know JP has been looking into that for sure.
It's definitely a dope thing.
You know, it's nascent stages.
So we got to be careful with those types of things as well.
But it's crazy what is happening with this claudia jp good to see you back here man what what happened sorry i don't yeah i don't know what happened to be honest but
you're you're back is it okay if i post this now no wait i want to give some context. Sorry for ragging. I don't know what happened to my phone, but I'm back.
So Sigasa, when he contacted me two weeks ago to start working on Jungle Bay Island,
he sent me a bunch of context.
I asked him, send me all the context that you want me to use as the starting point of creating something that I can then show to you, to the people that will participate in this experience and more than feedback from the specific mechanics or bugs,
you know, Cicasa will post a link in a while.
And I shipped that website like three minutes ago.
You know, there will be bugs, you know, so bear with me with those bugs because I want you to like distill the underlying intention with what you will experience so that we can Jungle Bay Island matches the expectation that the community has.
You know, there will be bugs, you know.
So last week, a word that was repeated from Green, from FLA, from different people, they all talked about gamification.
Everyone said, or a lot of people said the word gamification, you know,
and so I created an implementation of a game somehow, and it will be buggy,
and it will be buggy, you know, but if it works, how I want it to work,
how I created it for it to work, there will be 55 million Jungle Bay meme tokens
for Grab on the island.
And if you don't understand how the game is played it is because I did my
my work wrong because I always create the experiences that I create so that the
friction is as small as possible but I think you will understand I think you will understand how
to play the game you will understand what the bungalows are. You will see
that you can post messages to bungalows. They are like very simple messages, old school tweets,
less than 280 characters. This is powered by Net Protocol. So for example, in my phone,
For example, in my phone, I use Rainbow Wallet.
And if I open the website on a browser and try to connect with Rainbow Wallet, it is buggy.
So if you have Rainbow Wallet, copy the link of the website and open it on the browser that Rainbow Wallet has.
You know, you are Web3 people.
You know how to figure things out for them to work.
Hopefully it works.
And if it doesn't work, we can still talk about what you are experiencing.
And I can still use that information as the fuel for the next version, you know.
So I think this is enough context for Cicasa to drop the link so that we can go into the link.
There is a live multiplayer game that is capped at 88 players.
So there is less than 88 people here, so we shouldn't have problems with that.
You can open the website in your browser, in the computer if you want.
You can turn on the volume so that you can hear the music, the sound effects.
You can enter the island and start digging for tokens.
I see already that there is two players inside.
Yeah, I'm in there.
So, yeah, go ahead.
So I guess, you know, and this is this is awesome as far as just like,
you know, guys, keep in mind, this is like this is a jumping off point.
And while we have been talking about it um jungle bay like like jp is who built memetic signal protocol which was our first kind of
exploration and how to like add these different reputation based time based signal based um
things into the mix but really we wanted after thinking about after seeing that it's very
difficult to have retention unless there's something that has an aligned incentive,
an opportunity to benefit from people's contributions over time, it just doesn't meet the mark.
And so while that could be integrated here, you know, we wanted to focus on something bigger that was really in our lane, too,
you know that it's this is essentially like this this binding of communities right as a in a
metaphorical place is what jungle bay has always aspired to be and so to have something like this
um it this is just a starting point right a jumping off point but um just want it we want
everyone to be a part of the process and and there's going to be different
changes to it and all that but i think like from a from a jumping off point um this is just a it's
a cool concept there's a couple things for me that uh you know immediately comes to mind but i know
that this is still early right like we're we're going uh essentially for for a prize. For me, I want, like, I like the access.
And eventually I would hope that people's combined holdings
of, you know, different Jungle Bay home team,
our collections, meme tokens, whatever,
that affects what we've discussed around a heat score
and that token gates access to these sort of mining events
where you can then get the Jungle Bay memes.
And then the thing is,
I'm seeing that you can say something in the bungalows.
I like the say something part, that's a dope idea.
But as far as being able to build,
I do think that the skin in the game component
in order to avoid slop,
that people need to burn Jungle Bay memes
in order to scale and and construct different
elements of their bungalow um is an important component that's my initial feedback but i like
this this type of um i mean i can't believe you did this in just just this week it's it's it's
brilliant um for a jumping off point uh green go ahead man yeah i was gonna say i i really like the
Yeah, I was gonna say I really like the
Notepad on the walls
That's a great idea
Because it's interactive and when people like walk by and stuff like that they'll love it
But I was gonna say
Essentially bro, I think we're really lucky
Because I've been doing this for like the past four years is fun
So what I noticed
was basically, um, people want to be involved in the creation that, that, that's basically,
because what you're looking for is the sticky feeling, quote unquote, right. Um, but so how
you get that? Sorry, go on. Well, I was going to say that the sticky feeling is critical,
but the other piece is the effortless retention.
That's the hardest part.
Something that makes people intuitively feel the urge to go
because we're so inundated with different opportunities,
different apps, all this shit, right? To get
someone to add a routine or like another touch point of engagement that's not directly connected
to, you know, X, TikTok, whatever people's normal platforms are, there needs to be an
opportunity to earn. There needs to be an opportunity to contribute there needs to be an opportunity to contribute there needs to be a a clear alignment in that what i'm doing here is directly benefiting my bags for life in many
respects you know and and i think that what jungle bay does is it acts as like almost a dog whistle
for people that um show up over time and that really actually care about these projects. And, and, and that I,
that's, it's more of a yes. And then it, then a, then a counter to what you were saying, JP,
I mean, uh, green. Yeah. So I'd like what I found is, uh, like it's still same, um, because
like people, they want to create, right. Um, with retention is people, they have ADHD or whatever, bro.
So they just move on to the next thing, right?
Yeah.
But if you give them something that they are actually enjoying, they'll stay there.
They'll stay there.
And what a lot of people actually enjoyed doing is gaining power.
One sec, sorry. Yeah. people actually enjoyed doing is like gaining power um one sec sorry
yeah all right can i say something real quick yeah of course okay so like like in the game right
when you talk to a debt relief bot and you want to ask you something there is a transaction fee
right for base right so yes what about making also part of that payment within the gas transaction
is that you have to pay some type of
jungle bay memes like to keep it jungle bay themed yeah um kind of rotating on on that token so not
only is there like a gas transaction to talk to debt relief bot but in order to unlock something
in the game it requires some jungle bay tokens so doc just to that point the the
eventual vision right is that like if somebody wants to add an essential link to the to the
lore or like a website or like a meme like a goaded meme that that should be highly of an
artist collection or like like let's say we want to add Bo Jungles to the Bo Bo thing, right?
Because it's a collaborative collection
that was part of Jungle Bay,
it's part of the story, whatever,
or an NFT project,
or they want to build out a store.
We would have different tiers
of how many Jungle Bays need to be burned,
depending on whether it's an image or a video
or a link or a site or a store
that would be able to be built there.
So like you're on point.
And that kind of feedback loop obviously affects supply of Jungle Bay memes and it benefits
everyone who's been mining them and buying them over time.
But it also gives a real ability to show skin in the game and contribute to making each person's respective passion project or whatever
their whatever meme they're most hyped on or whatever art collection if they're a vibe market
artist and they have their own collection there whatever it is that they care about most they'll
have the ability to you know burn the jungle bay memes to get them and and since they've been holding these tokens over time they'll have frictionless and and free opportunities to
mine the jungle bay memes so there's a lot of touch points where people can benefit that are dynamic. Yeah. Like for me,
I try to
create and design
from the
simplest
system can be
to understand
through that frictionless
simplicity if there is
actual demand
and intention for something to exist.
So, for example, in this current implementation of the game
that you can play here, there is an underlying smart contract
that I deployed on base where you could create a bungalow
paying with Jungle main memes.
So if you go around the map and you eventually find Baila,
that is like this green wisp that is...
Yeah, just to add there, Baila is going to be the kind of island muse character.
And so JP is posturing her to be kind of the tour guide for anyone that's new there and be able to
I mean, dude, with what we can do with these 3D videos and stuff, like there's a lot of really cool
shit to get people to like really have a true love for this beautiful creative muse that inhabits
the island. Go ahead JP. So I see her as the host of the Jungle Bay Island. So in this
game that you can play, in the link that we share, you can find Baila and you can talk to Baila,
and eventually you can create a bungalow talking to Baila and writing to the smart contract that
you want to create a bungalow for that you need like the
chain where the collection or whatever is and then the token address associated with the
collection or with the token or whatever that bungalow will represent so in the like and for
that process you need to pay a given amount of Jungle Bay memes and the token you need to pay.
Okay, that's one part.
I would say you need to burn, though, because I do like the psychological difference
because it is contributing to the island, right, when you're burning,
as opposed to that you're just doing a transaction, even though it technically is.
There's a different nuance to it.
No, but in the logic of the smart contract burning and transactions are
different things and if you want that action to be burning those tokens that could be burning
tokens you know that's a design decision that we need to make but in this case it's a collective
when when people are burning right what like you're essentially contributing to the the greater
to you're contributing to the island you're you're giving you're eliminating supply from the native token
and then you know obviously we know that what that that means so i think like that group effort
of doing that in that way is like the skin in the game sweet spot yeah yeah for sure so like that's
part of like the design that like this is a first implementation of this and I will deploy like tens of smart contracts playing around and finding that sweet spot of what wants to be built, you know, but like, okay, we have the permissionless creation of bungalows.
That is something that could happen now. And if you can go to Bela and create a
bungalow on the smart contract, you know, I'm talking at a smart contract level. And then when
you go into a bungalow in the game and you write on this text box, right now you don't have to pay
any jungle bay memes or burn any jungle main memes because I wanted to create a frictionless way for people to create
those messages so that we can understand if there is actual interest on doing that or there is a
different way through which people will contribute to different bungalows and right now I don't know
like which is the way that people want to contribute to bungalows I don't know which is the way that people want to contribute to bungalows.
I don't know what is building a bungalow or co-creating a bungalow.
What is the action that artists or users or whatever,
what is the action that we do in order to co-create?
That is an open question.
If there is ideas, you know, you need to teach them blender JP. That's,
that's what they're looking for. Um, to, I do think that's a, that's a,
like it's an ideal thing, but people just don't have the patience.
Like there's the short attention span of people that are going to be interacting
or not, are not going to be technically
inclined to do that bro it's like we we we spend don't nobody want to learn blender niggas want to
hop in the game and play nobody want to learn blender niggas to learn blender on youtube
that that's it like we i i i love this sentiment right like i totally agree he's green that like
that would be an ideal situation but i
like and i know that it's getting easier too as well right but i do think that like the the more
barriers that you have for people to just make it accessible the the more people you lose because
the way the people act is like if they can't get in two seconds they're out you know what i mean
like that's just real realistic i'm very sad like yeah
like nobody jumped me right like because right now i just got jumped by three people yeah so i'll say
this basically um if you if you just like make them buy the buildings um you will lose retention because the sticky feeling and the retention is like created by
the person actually gaining value bro and i'm telling you bro like i know it's a it's very
intimidating to like learn and stuff but it'll take you like 30 minutes bro like we spend years
learning like all the difficult difficult blockchain things. 30 minutes in Blender, you can do Minecraft stuff.
Yeah, but that's tricky.
A good example of why virality happens is Cloud.
You know, this bot framework that has gone extremely viral the last days.
has gone extremely viral the last days.
And the reason why it has happened
is because you literally need to install it
through one command.
Like it sets itself up
even from a computer
that doesn't have any interaction
with anything before.
Like yesterday I rebooted an old MacBook Air
and I ran the only command
that the website tells me,
and everything happened downstream
from that only one command.
And that is what people want nowadays.
Like, they don't want to learn something new.
To be clear, though, right?
Because I think there's a lot of substance
to what Green said.
To have the optionality, right?
If someone has that skill set because it's
like the idea behind jungle bay island is like everyone has their different skill sets their
abilities their interests whatever and this like this community effort to add what you can what
resonates is is what yields something because people are not waiting for other people to save
them right so like to have the ability to scale out different types of blender landscapes, that would be another touch point where you burn Jungle Bay memes to be able to unlock that and then to start cooking for the community.
And it's not buying a bungalow.
It's burning to unlock an asset or adding an to for the entire you know community to benefit from your
expertise yeah it's essentially it's like this bro um because we've had tokens in the metaverse
before right and we've had lots of time to learn from them as well and their models um and and
that's why i'm sharing this with you guys um it is basically, you know, the people need a reason to stay there, bro,
right? Like getting them to spend Jungle Bay memes on things. That's easy, bro. That's easy.
Like, for example, think about it like this. If they know how to build their house, right,
they're going to need decorations, right? And the decorations are the ones that are actually going
to need the details and stuff like that. You can definitely have people do that or like spend Jungle Bay memes on that or even skins, right?
Even skins, like let's say you go make like Bobo skins or like Pepe skins or Wojak skins, right?
Or whatever, dude.
You know, they can spend Jungle Bay memes on that.
But I found the buildings, the buildings is basically like they didn't even do you need to like empower them, bro.
And I know I know everybody runs and like, you know, that we have three people right now get scared because I mentioned the word blender.
I'm telling you, bro, like you don't even need Claude, bro.
I was trying to teach people blender four years ago, bro.
Right. It takes you 30 minutes, bro, to actually learn.
It's not about being scared.
It's about fluidity.
Bro, you're scared, bro.
Rodney, I'm going to teach you Blender.
Hold on.
It's not about being scared.
It's like, okay, if niggas want to use Blender, okay, there's an option to use.
Right, the optionality.
Do whatever you want.
And if you don't, then you don't.
So both parties are satisfied.
It's not even like a discussion because bro said if you want to use blender bop bop bop that could
be an option but like nigga i don't want to go to force people to you're gonna lose no blender
you're inevitably you're gonna lose people that just don't have that desire and whether or not
you because because contextualizing it okay it only takes 30 minutes a lot of people don't have
the touch point for someone to contextualize that for them.
If they're just coming in via just learning about it on a space or whatever.
We don't have the benefit of just being everyone understanding that intuitively.
So there needs to be a frictionless entry point and then an optionality to do what you said.
to do what you said, you know?
And also, like, Blender is an example of a tool
that can be used to create.
And there is people that create using Blender
and there is people that create using other tools.
Like, for example, this is a 2D game
and there are 2D assets that people could create
for this 2D game. Those are different instances of something, I would say, more architectural about what Jungle Bay Island wants to be,
as a place where people gather to do something, as a place where we invite artists to do something,
as an economy that could be co-created.
But how is that economy created?
How is this transformed into something that is sustainable
and that invites people in, makes them belong,
and actually gives them something to look up
or to look for when interacting with what this island is.
And also the one piece that really hasn't been hammered, I think is the most like frictionless and impactful is like you've already been, you've been holding drb you've been holding you know greens vibe market uh log
grounds vibe market collection uh filthies uh uh vibe market collection you've been holding both
jungles you've been holding different touch points that are part of the jungle bay home team you know
their their respective independent works now you just plug you just jump into Jungle Bay Island and you immediately have the ability to
access ways to mine Jungle Bay memes, which is real money. You can sell it if you want.
So there is an incentive and it's a reward base, but it's the threshold for the people
that are going to have the higher heat scores
based on, you know, the different holdings
as well as an engagement component on the timeline,
how long they've been engaging with Jungle Bay, et cetera.
That's something that people can benefit from
from the work they've already put in
that they didn't have an expectation
to be able to benefit from.
You know what I mean?
So I think that that element too can be very powerful
because it already acts as a filter that people have held
during these tough times.
And if they're still holding by the time this is up and running
in that way, and that have been like, it's indicative that
they're built different.
Yeah, I think that the
It's still important to like focus on like where you're building though
right dude like think about it we're trying to integrate crypto things into into minecraft pro
no it's not minecraft minecraft was just like uh it was more so the the gamification of uh
searching for or mining for treasure not like move remove minecraft from the situation as a
server or whatever i'm talking about just the the feeling you get from um searching for stuff and
finding it and and doing so on an island setting so it doesn't have to be hosted in minecraft or
whatever the third party is it's it's whatever the most frictionless way to have people enjoy the beauty and the hunt of it.
You know what I mean?
Whatever that satisfying, like in Minecraft, that was an example.
Because when you're hitting those mines and you see the blocks break and you see these gems,
they're hard to get.
It's that psychological sweet spot that they hit to be able to unlock that and to keep people, you know,
mining, even though you just hit rocks for a long time,
right?
So it's more just the sentiment of it.
Yeah.
The only reason I brought that up is because Minecraft
is anti-crypto, right?
So we can have a server there, but like long-term,
it's going to be hard.
Totally.
And that, yeah, I definitely wanted to clarify that piece.
We're not stuck to that at all.
That was more just like the experience
piece.
Go ahead.
Well, I ain't going to mention it.
I was talking to Baylor and I noticed something, but
like bro said, it's going to be buggy.
No, mention it though.
The bugs are helpful.
There's no keyboard on mobile
when you're talking to Baylor to hit enter
or anything. There's no keyboard.
There's keyboard when you pop in the houses
for the net protocol message
but not when you talk to Baylor.
You can't hit enter
to continue the conversation on mobile.
But you don't have points?
Or sorry, like a next arrow yeah no
there's not there's nothing for mobile he's correct yeah yeah okay thank you for uh yeah
the other thing right so okay i remember h wonder was before he rugged puzzle place he had a fucking
great idea right yeah of puzzle world right and h100 basically like
in puzzle world which was kind of like whatever it was puzzle world but a lot of the transactions
and things that you needed to build shit like the money would go to like this tower that was in the
middle of the arena in puzzle world right and this tower held all the east and like completing certain
missions or at certain time points this tower would emit benefits towards the users in puzzle
world so it just got me thinking right um what about something like that whereas in in um jungle
bay island right maybe there's like this whatever whatever, centerpiece, whatever, the main island, whatever, where, like, you know how when you say you burn Jungle Bay memes?
What if a portion, some or all, whatever, what if when you burn it, it goes towards the, let's just call it centerpiece of Jungle Bay.
DMT Lagoon.
We have the DMT Lagoon as that, yeah.
Okay, okay, I don't know about DMT Lagoon.
Yeah.
But yeah, keep going as far as like what, like because-
Well, I was just saying in comparison to that, I was just thinking like, you know, like instead
of like the burn, technically it is a burn, but it gets burned towards, I'm calling it
the centerpiece.
It gets burned towards the centerpiece.
And then within Jungle Bay Island, if you do like certain tasks or certain milestones or whatever, then that emits like rewards, maybe burn some still, but hands out rewards to active users of it.
And also incentivizes people to come on board, knowing that if they do certain things, like then they get rewarded from the yeah and here's the thing like the the
issue i've had watching these different like and some of them have been like you look at wolf
there's a lot that have been really like like smart on the surface ponzi-nomics types
of structures right but i do think from a long-term standpoint to be able to have it
tied as far as the reward capability tied to your,
just how you have been holding, right? How you've been, and then having a compounding effect for if
you're holding multiple projects, if you're holding a Jungle Bay, if you're holding, you know,
DRB, you're holding Banker, you're holding Pepe, you're holding, you know, Meta8s,
Island Vibe Market Collection.
Like each of these tokens can be added
and weighted from a time perspective
to be able to give the heat score
and then to only be able to access
certain mining areas on Jungle Bay Island
with a threshold of like,
let's say 69 degrees or whatever, 40 degrees.
You have to have 50 degrees
to be able to go to this part,
to access the caves, to access the caves to access
the lagoon and there's different amounts of jungle bay memes that can be bind on those in those areas
all right cool now the game session had ended and i was number one it said
no it's not a test i sent jungle bay memes memes to it yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also saw that.
And I was expecting you to work.
Now we're going to get dumped on, goddammit.
But it didn't work.
Hell yeah, hell yeah, it didn't work.
I was going to say, I was going to work.
How many points did you have, dawg?
Oh, okay.
Y'all, I was over here killing shit.
How many points did you have?
I had 3,000 points and it kept taking my money away.
Fuck. Fuck.
Sorry.
So please send me your address later via DM so that I can distribute the tokens.
I was expecting this moment with a little bit of nervousness and it didn't work.
My fault.
Sorry.
That's why we're doing these spaces, man.
Luckily, we got
motherfuckers like...
I don't even build on the test.
A lot of times, if I'm building something,
you're going to run into...
To me, personally,
that's how you
find out the issues quick
and then you're able to fix them directly because
it's in real time live
that's why i think banker has such a a leg up from all these other um you know new agents that
are coming on board because they have stress tested this shit in public on the timeline
and dealt with a lot of shit right but they've they've adjusted because they had that you know
real time feedback that that a lot of people don't take the time to facilitate
or they don't, you know, make the effort to do that
because they want to keep it closed, you know,
keep it behind closed doors.
That's why I love that.
Hey, I got another thing.
I was trying to, like, jump on Doc and take his points.
Is there a way where we could, like, run into each other
and do a battle?
Yo, that's funny
do some sort of some sort to get different weapons and stuff like that maybe someday
it's definitely worth noting right to have be able to to you know put it up for his way i was
following him around i'm like man what if you were able to do like a like a you know you both
agree to a duel and the winner gets like an X amount of however much you're wagering up
and you guys do some sort of target practice.
But that's the thing, right?
It shouldn't be on JP to do that shit.
It should be like,
if you want that, right, FLA,
then build it.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like build a mechanism
or build something within the game
that allows you to do that.
And then when we want a duel, we come to FLA house.
You ain't even got to be home.
The thing is, you got to have,
there has to be a quality control to the experience, right?
We got to stand on what is being presented to the community.
So there's a, I think like there's a sweet spot there.
And I do think like, let's say you had that game.
Like, I think that that would need to function on the island because you need to be able to pass somebody.
Hold up. If I build my bungalow and I charge you to come in, what's in my house?
But that's what I want to make clear. The bungalow is an individual.
It's for each of these different projects that are home team projects.
So you would you would contribute to, you contribute to the Jungle Bay project
and you put the
billboards. So I could put
the chess game in there possibly
if people wanted to come play
chess. They'd come to Jungle Bay
bungalow to play chess.
Exactly.
I think
that there is a slight danger in limiting how this wants to evolve.
We don't know if the final form of Jungle Bay Island is full of bungalows from projects,
or maybe FLA wants to have a bungalow, and he wants to pay artists for pieces of art for his bungalow.
And he wants to create custom experiences inside his bungalow.
And maybe that is a way to make this sustainable on the long term.
The issue I have with that, JP, is that when new people come and they're just going into these random bungalows there it's it's
it scatters it too much the to be able to have the the um larger projects be the the convergence
point for the community members they still would be able to say you know this created by and then
you're at handle or whatever but i but i i think or you know, built by this person for the Jungle Bay bungalow, for the DRB bungalow.
But I don't, I think that if we scatter it out like that and we, like, it's going to be just a bunch of kind of places where, like, people will come and then they kind of forget about it because there's not many people coming through or whatever like if we can the more we can unify these community efforts under the umbrellas of whatever the project is i think that's a stickier
and more scalable um structure i i don't think they are like mutually exclusive for example right
like you have a room there right fla has uh rents a room there or builds a room there. No, and it could be that like the main island that you go when you go into the main website,
for example, the one that we are seeing on this game,
that is like the simplest expression of the island.
It's 2D, you know, it's very simple, very raw,
but you can understand that there is like a central map
where there is 12 bungalows that are associated with projects.
Okay, that's the main link, you know?
But it could be that there is memetics.lat slash user slash FL8321,
and he can reference that link from the outside.
You can only enter his bungalow if he shares the link on the outside.
There is no way to enter his house from the main island, but his house exists within this ecosystem.
And that is like a story that is moving into, you know?
Well, dude, if that's doable, I would structure it as his, not his house, but his room in the bungalow, right?
His lounge or something like that.
But what I would do is, I mean, is it feasible?
Because I don't know if this is technically feasible.
Could FLA be like, you know, I just made a new chess game
or I just made a new first person shooter game or whatever.
But in my lounge, in the Jungle Bay bungalow or in the Bobo bungalow, but you can only access if you hold DRB and you hold like X token.
Like, could you token gate your lounge?
Of course. And it is very important to, I mean, at least I try to make sense of the world that is unfolding and its chaotic nature through stories, you know.
And Jungle Bay Island is a story that we are telling and that allow us members of it to create a shared narrative about, for example, our relationship to creating stuff with AI. So any person, right now,
you saw like the Google announcement yesterday that you can create worlds with a prompt, you know,
that is coming. And in that world, how can we make sense of that world? We need stories, like
humans are wired for understanding reality through stories.
The Jungle Bay Island could be that story,
and the lounge of FLA inside the Jungle Bay Island
could be the entry point into his creative expression.
It could happen.
Yeah, for sure.
I love that. I love that. That's really cool. Yeah, man, I think that, you know, this is obviously, I'm wrapping my head around how this continues to scale. And one thing too,
with just adding those like video elements and how we can
do these world builder things eventually and that's going to become easier and easier to do
i would imagine this there is a path here to make this eventually feel like you're traversing an
actual island and you're going to these bungalows etc etc right yeah i mean, this website that you're accessing here is a 1955 game. Maybe I'm wrong. I was born in 1991, but this is like playing a video game in 25 years and the capacity of AI for creating those experiences
will evolve extremely exponentially. Like that will get crazy soon, very soon, you know, and
we are somehow preparing for that world. And like, we need to understand I mean we can't understand how to prepare for that world
it's completely mind-blowing we cannot understand it you know yeah I think that the exponential
nature of how these things are being upgraded like a lot of us see the writing on the wall
and we're trying to prepare accordingly and that's why like tethering it to real substance and is going to be the
arbitrage that Jungle Bay Island has because all everyone's going to have access to these tools.
So then the only differentiator is going to be, is there a real actual like community? Is there
a real foundation? And when you can then have a binding in a very like non or unobtrusive way to these unrelated projects and tokens,
that has a subliminal ascension effect just by power in numbers, you know?
Yeah, for sure.
And for example, today we were playing the game that I created and I presented inside the island.
But nothing limits us so that in three more weeks we could play like the game that Dr. Rob created using cloud, whatever, you know, it's an example.
samples, you know, but we could have this weekly ritual of gathering to play a game with friends
on the internet, be created by members of the community. And that could create like something
important that is related to rituals and about like doing stuff together. And that is what
the island is about for me. You know, it's a place for harnessing vibes, you know.
Yeah. Let me ask you
something um because this just sparked an idea and again this could be a dumb question i'm not
a technical right but it is is there a way that let's say somebody creates a game that's super
dope and there is a a way to to profit from it and that that makes. Is there a way to do a rev share with the creator and the island?
So the island takes benefits, like the island treasury gets a small percentage,
but they're actually able to, in the contract of it,
have a monetization component for the respective builder.
Yeah, for sure.
For example, I got into Net Protocol because of building this. Like when you go into a bungalow now, you can write a message and the smart contract inside the Net Protocol infra, the smart contract that I created for the bungalows is called an app inside net protocol. So the current implementation of Jungle Bay Island is called an app inside net protocol.
So it could be that what you just said, there is a model on which Jungle Bay Island is infrastructure for people to create experiences that are woven through the architecture
that Jungle Bay Island provides.
Man.
I don't know how to do that.
I got chills thinking about it.
That would be so crazy if it ends up just adding new...
Really, the whole intention is giving creators and builders
as many resources
and support and elevation as possible. I think like a lot of the home team artists have seen
a benefit of just like participating in the island because there's a cross pollination of exposure
that highlights their independent work and doesn't necessarily like cloak them and just being part of jungle
bay like we've been very intentional about that so to to be able to extend to builders in that way
and to give like the opportunity to have a convergence point right the jungle bay island as a
as a place to to for these builders to cook and not have to be on their you know out in the ocean
on their own trying to create a place where people come and fuck around and find out.
That is a very compelling, you know, set of ingredients.
Yeah, for sure.
And like to be completely clear,
I don't have a clue on how to build that.
You know, I don't know.
But I also don't have limits in my relationship with AI for using it to build things.
And that's the invitation that I want to bring everyone that is listening here.
Like there is no limitation in the world that is unfolding more than you and your capacity for believing in creating things, you know?
Yeah.
And I want to, I I wanna just quickly reset the room
because there's new people that are joined.
I've seen some motherfuckers that I love to see in here.
Shout out my God, Charlie, for sure.
On the top of the mountain is the working,
super, super rough building point
for what Jungle Bay Island is gonna become.
There was a game that was live for 30 minutes where you could mine Jungle Bay Island is going to become. There was a game that was live for 30 minutes
where you could mine Jungle Bay memes
and JP has been cooking.
And what we're really trying to do is build in public
and to get immediate community feedback.
Also, like, just like, even through this conversation,
Doc, FLA has some incredible points
that, like, we're definitely going to, like, they that like, we're definitely gonna,
like they definitely influence how we're gonna,
you know, how we are gonna approach this
and what's actually possible.
And just really, really crystallizing
like the most fruitful path, right?
And that's just the effort that's gonna be done
with these weekly spaces to just kind of,
for JP to, you know, get the feedback.
Think about it. He's deep in meditation. Sometimes he he takes this.
That's why I love this motherfucker. This is this is this really means something to him building and why why he's building. And he and like a lot of us resonate that. Like, this isn't just to fucking make something that could be cool. This is to do something that's like,
makes motherfuckers feel spiritually aligned in a way that is like inspiring and fun and a way
where they can also, if they put in the effort where they can benefit themselves. And that,
I think, you know, when that gets continually expanded,
you know, foundationally,
there's more ways to sustain it
as a project at large
and as a convergence point
for creators and artists
and do so in a way
that's actually feasible
from a revenue and growth standpoint.
Yeah, I just wanted to reset the room just in case people uh
or were just coming in and they were trying to click the link and then they were seeing that
there was nothing going on there that that 30 minutes had expired no but as doctor said before
the timer reset and now it's uh like there is 13 minutes left so it's still going
that's different from what I expected
but that's cool because
people can understand
what we are talking about
great
yeah and I also don't want to keep people
here for too long I appreciate everyone
that's come if there's anyone else that has questions
I saw Clinton
or Diamond Hands you came up what's up man how you doing yeah secret how you doing bro i'm good man how about
yourself yeah i'm good happy new year bro happy new year good to see you man so so i was testing
the game you know yeah i played the first set i played the first sets i got the reward but when
i was about to claim it, it failed.
Yeah, so we encountered a bug and that's one of the downsides, but just realistic, you know, parts of our elements of trying to build in public is inevitably when we're shipping these things in real time, we're that we have encountered. So, you know, JP definitely has noted that.
And you might have missed, we were talking about that earlier
when we were going to do the claim part.
But yeah, that's what has happened on that.
This is all very...
What's that?
Has it been resolved? The issue, the bug, has it been resolved the issue the book has it been resolved
oh yeah yeah all this oh okay this is all this is all um you know just just working on it in
real time and around and finding out and uh you know as long as the context is said that like
that's what this is which we tried to do from the from the outset, people, I think that resonate with the builders strife of, you know, having to uh because it's fun man to to try to
solve problems and to improve and to figure out the best path and to do so in a collaborative
um venue so that's kind of the intention of these uh spaces yeah if you were expecting to win some
jungle bay memes please dm me with your wallet and I will I will reach back to you
Yeah
Yeah, are you referring to me no like to anyone that is listening and that play the game as long as you got the score as long as you
Actually got the score you gotta you know
You know, you know know i noticed i came second
in the last game i came second but i can't even check leaderboard i can't even check my previous
score you understand everything just cleared so i have to start all over again yeah don't don't
worry like don't sweat the details i i will ask jp you gotta follow jp you to follow me back. Okay. Huh?
Yeah, Doc is a worthwhile follow.
That motherfucker is built different.
Yeah, so I want to, before we wrap it up, I want to ask if anyone has more ideas,
more feedback of the underlying direction of this game.
You know, it's a place like Sigasa,
on the context that he sent to me,
he spoke about the island being a place where you can return
and that has life of its own
and that feels that time goes by, you know?
And I, like this game is the simplest expression of something that resembles that.
You know, it's not that completely like it's it's not persistent.
It will stop existing.
But just like this happened two days ago, like two days ago, I had like a breakthrough idea
where I realized that the island could be a two dimensional world.
I always thought about it as a spatial world
that you needed to go through like in 3D.
And two days ago I was like, fuck,
like old school games were 2D, you know?
And that's easier to build in resources.
Like, it's cheaper in every sense.
So that's why this is a 2D, and I don't close the door for, like, the, like, formal, quote-unquote,
implementation of the island to be in this first phase 2D world.
Like it could be fun 2D world on which you enter a bungalow and you are like shown something
inside that bungalow, you know, and that's something that I need to understand how to
portray or what is the shape it wants to take.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But this is like the simplest expression of that.
So if anyone has ideas or how do you envision bungalows or how do you envision the island,
please let us know now and if there is no one, we can wrap it up.
Awesome. I mean, I think, well, FLA and Dimez,
if you guys have something to say, go ahead.
No, no.
Well, we appreciate all the contributions in the space.
There's been a lot of great ideas here.
And I just, yeah, I appreciate everyone coming through.
And I think that there's a lot to work with, even just from what we discussed.
And hopefully next week we'll be coming back to you with some upgrades, some changes, some new problems, new ideas.
And really just.
Oh, one last thing.
Yeah, go ahead.
And I'm pretty sure that this is gonna change but like so like
you know how we got the little avatars right now yeah like yeah there's an option when you sign in
where it checks you know if you have a jungle bay and then allows you to pick what jungle bay you
want to walk around the world in you know what i mean yes love that yeah yeah for sure I actually wanted to implement also a multiplier for your
points based on the amount of jungle base that you have but I like I didn't I
couldn't make it in time but that's a great idea yeah and you know that
hopefully we'll be able to do something like how banker has the uh verify different wallets you buy just the
sign only and and not um have like have to connect the wallet so you can benefit your heat score can
come from you know all the the different wallets that you have um and and you know if you're holding
uh you know whatever whatever it is and to have the compounding um piece of it when you're holding
multiple jungle bay home team projects or artist collections um or you know as well as um just
just over time the time piece and also like like son don't got to do it alone too like you know
like contracts a lot that's that's like you know my thing too for real for like, you know, like, contracts a lot, that's, like, you know, my thing, too, for real.
So, like, if you ever, you know, not health, but, you know, to ease the light, you know, ease the burden,
then contracts is something, like, that's what I'm proficient at the most.
That's dope.
Amazing.
Appreciate it, Doc.
Yeah.
As always.
Guys, this was a successful episode, too.
JP, you're a legend man i'm honored to
have you as a such a formative and fundamental um piece of the of the jungle bay island story and
and how we're gonna scale it out um and uh i'm excited for what's possible here i just you get
enough stick figures and stick figure related motherfuckers together over time and you can
actually add some
cool shit we weave in that protocol app maybe we even get a little sauce from here's my eth mf for
gpt we definitely gotta add uh the the gm uh to uh uh to the fucking home team means we're gonna
do a bungalow for that for sure i saw here's my here fucking legend in the building. And let's see where we go with this, guys.
It's going to be something that I think has a lot of potential,
but it really, the execution is everything.
It has to memetically slap.
And anything but that is just, it's not good enough.
If people aren't showing up and they aren't loving it,
it's just not good enough and we need to improve.
And that's always been the mentality.
That's been the mentality through the blood and the mud here.
And it will always be the case.
So I'm going to leave you guys with that.
And I appreciate everyone coming through.
We'll see you on Jungle Bay Island next week.
Yeah, we will.
Like, I put it as a mission to myself.
I told Sikasa two weeks ago that each Friday
there will be something new for you to play with.
I don't know what it will be.
This week it was this game.
Next week it will be something different
and we will keep evolving based on that.
Hopefully making things that bring value
to the life of this community and from there outwards.
So thank you for coming.
Thank you for being here and hope you have a great weekend.
We'll see you motherfuckers soon.
Bye. Thank you.
