DevNTell - @Filecoin Onchain Cloud Explained: Verifiable Decentralized Cloud for Web3 Builders feat. @truckerfling | Host: @narb_s

Recorded: April 3, 2026 Duration: 0:31:55
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EMGM, welcome to what's going to be another fantastic episode of DevIntel.
So if you didn't know, DevIntel is a 30-minute podcast held every week, allowing founders,
hackers, and anyone in between the opportunity to come on the show and showcase what they
And today, I'm excited to welcome Sarah Thiam, who is head of DevRel at Filecoin, who will
be introducing us to Filecoin OnChain Cloud.
So if you aren't aware, Filecoin Onchain Cloud provides transparent storage,
retrieval and payments on the Filecoin network.
Stick around for today's episode,
you'll get to meet Sarah,
learn all about Filecoin Onchain Cloud,
and how you can get started using it today.
All right, let's get into it. GM, GM, or GN in your case, Sarah.
Welcome to the show.
Excited to have you on today.
Yeah, GM, GM.
Thanks for having me, NARP.
The intro video always gets me.
It's such a mood setter.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you got to start with a bang, right?
But yes, it's wonderful to have you on the show.
And thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to do so. I'm really interested for myself and the audience here today to learn all about Filecoin on Chain Cloud.
I know it's a relatively new platform,
so it's really exciting to kind of deep dive there.
But before we get into that, would you just
like to give an introduction about yourself?
Yeah, of course.
Thanks for having me today.
My name is Sarah.
I'm the head of DefRel for Filecoin.
Filecoin is a network of, it's now a blockchain,
but it's also supported by a network of different companies and entities, because we are truly decentralized in that way.
So in a sense, I'm also a founder. I lead my own entity called Phil Builders or PhilB, and we are the defile team for Filecoin.
So we are a team of six of us, and we've been supporting Filecoin for the past two years on our own.
And prior to that, I was part of the Protocol Labs team before we became separate entities as a network, also doing DevRel at Filecoin.
So that's my background.
And before that, I was previously at Microsoft and also working at the Singapore government.
And, yeah, it's been a long time in tech moving across the space from Web 2 all the way to Web 3.
And, yeah, now everything is becoming AI.
So we're all there.
Know how you feel.
So that's kind of my background.
And it seems you've been well-traveled in the tech scene, certainly, and had your fresh share of experiences, I guess.
certainly, and had your fresh share of experiences.
I guess, what was your kind of aha moment
that you kind of said, oh yeah,
tech is the right step for me.
I guess what inspired you to get into tech?
I think my first day into tech
is probably not the best indication.
The first day into tech was the day that Windows 10 launched
and I was the program manager for it. So, you know, not indicative of why I chose to join tech. But I think it's
just, I think I came in at a time when cloud computing was becoming really big. So for those
that are going through the AI boom right now, if you were around doing cloud compute, you know what
I mean. It was probably a smaller scale, but it was also the word on everyone's mouth like oh cloud compute um so back then i was like hey tech's gonna be
everywhere it's not gonna be an industry on its own the same way that ai is going to be everywhere
and not an industry on its own and i just thought it made a lot of sense to to jump into it and get
to understand like in a sense the fundamentals of something that everyone's going to be using
um because everyone always turns to you and like,
how does this actually work?
And you see the applications of it.
And to understand what's going on under the hood
and infrastructure behind it and what actually, what
are the privacy, security costs, and all of these other
considerations is super interesting.
So that's how I chose Tech as my career,
and I've never really looked back.
Yeah. This is the way to see the line from the Star Wars universe.
Yeah, I feel like you've probably been in tech the same amount of time as me.
I think it's probably about 10 years, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, about 10 years, maybe 11.
But yeah, I've never looked back.
I don't know how I would survive in any other spot for this.
Yeah, and I guess you mentioned it.
From Microsoft, you made your way to the Filecoin Protocol Labs universe.
I guess for people who are watching today who might be new to the blockchain side of the tech spectrum,
what would be your high-level kind of overview or not overview, sorry,
definition of kind of what decentralized storage is, kind of setting the scene for Filecoin itself?
Yeah, that's a great question.
Decentralized storage is actually a really interesting concept.
It's also one of the reasons why when I pivoted from Web2 into Web3, I actually, so I was very fortunate.
Protocol Labs was my first choice and I got in.
I was very, very lucky.
I did not expect to be able to work with such amazing people and such excellent engineers at the time.
And the reason why I chose it was because I looked across the Web3 space and what attracted me to Web3 and blockchain was the idea of sovereignty and working in
Bang before also being very fortunate there you kind of see how it's a huge machine and it's great
but it's also a few companies making a lot of decisions that influence a large part of the
tech sector and you know a lot of us know this firsthand, right? Like there's not really many options out there.
And so the question then came up with like with cloud computing
and a lot of data going into the cloud,
like who actually owns this data?
And I think in the past, even in the past six months,
I think in Q4 last year, when AWS went down,
a bunch of servers went down, a bunch of websites went down,
everybody was affected.
And these things happen from time to time.
And if it happens on a larger scale or if it happens for a longer time,
then that can really impact a lot of people's infrastructure, lives, everything, right?
So it is very important to have decentralized infrastructure sitting somewhere,
even though for various reasons, usability and these things are still progressing.
We all know this in the blockchain space. It will take time, but it's good to have alternatives.
And so with data being so important, storage is definitely a key component to the stack.
And I looked at the options out there and I was like, you know, decentralized storage
in itself is just important for censorship resistance.
That's really important.
When governments go down, you can see, like, during times of crisis, there are certain nations or countries or situations where people have used
different applications like Blue Sky or which Blue Sky actually uses IPF as
a falcoin, which is awesome.
And that's what enables them to communicate with each other and spread the message.
Right. And so you can see the importance of this.
And so that's what really attracted me to decentralized storage and
the importance behind it.
Yeah, I mean, it's a lot. It's decentralized storage and the importance behind it. Yeah.
I mean, it's a lot there.
I can keep going on, but that's why I was like, this seems like cool stuff that needs to get done.
Yeah, yeah, certainly.
And when I was first getting into the blockchain scene, I mean, I started with the Bitcoin white paper and Ethereum white paper as well.
But then what really caught
my eye, it was decentralized storage. Like I got into Arweave, I got into Filecoin. I just thought
the concept was like really cool. Now IPFS as well. I know it's not exactly storage, but it all kind
of works together. And you mentioned it briefly there. We have seen a lot of these AWSs, the Azures, what have you,
kind of going down a little bit more frequently
than what I recall in recent memory.
I think whether or not it's distributed to AI
or maybe people are using these agents in nefarious ways
to hack or DDoS these platforms.
But yeah, definitely having these decentralized alternatives seems very important,
especially in this day and age.
I think 100%.
I think maybe, I think what you mentioned is probably a good hint
that maybe why these things are happening more often.
Like I think, and I don't think it's anyone's like,
or any infrastructure's like, you know,
flaws or anything.
It's just, it's an unprecedented amount of data
that is being generated with AI,
both on like the amount that is needed to run the AI
and the amount that AI outputs.
And if you think of the current options that we have,
it's just not going to be enough
at the exponential speed that it's growing.
And we will need like, you know,
if multiple like peoples or, let's just say,
common man's computers need to be used for data as well,
or storage, that might even become an extremely important
option to have.
So yeah, even more so today.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think it's a good segue. So when I first started learning about, well, going into the protocol labs universe, obviously there's IPFS, there's Filecoin, and then the Filecoin virtual machine.
in a single place and making it easier for developers to kind of get access to this.
So yeah, I'll let you take the reins and tell us all about Filecoin Unchain Club.
Yeah, where do I begin?
I feel like I've been in Web3 for like five years, but it's only been like three.
And in that time, I've seen, I think I've been in a really privileged position
to see how Filecoin has evolved
actually really a lot
like the day that I joined Protocol Labs
and the Filecoin project
was a few months right before
the Filecoin virtual machine was going to be launched
back then this was like
late 2022, early 2023
and what Filecoin is really aiming for first of all let's just start
with like ipfs falcoin um and i'll try to be as high level as i possibly can but i do think that
the lore is like interesting and important context for how we arrived at falcoin on chain cloud
and also even until today i think people do, and it is a very understandable confusion,
maybe a mistake on our part, but people do think that IPFS is Filecoin and they are interchangeable. And like you said, NARP, I think you're exactly right. They're not the same. IPFS is a peer-to-peer
network. It's not blockchain. It does allow you to store, but more like cash, and then retrieve
it really quickly in a peer-to-peer network. But it doesn't mean that your data is guaranteed to be stored forever unless you're using like
a guaranteed paid service like for example, Pinata and so on, right?
Or in Europe.
Falcon on the other hand is backed by a blockchain and it is inspired by IPFS.
It uses the core technology that IPFS uses,
like Merkle trees and PCIDs, to be able to store your data
and make sure that there's data integrity.
But there is also the backing of an entire economic network
of storage providers secured by the blockchain,
so they cannot actually lose your data,
or they will get slashed really, really badly and penalized.
So that is the core difference.
And even until today, people are not
very clear on the difference.
They do work hand in hand.
Filecoin does use IPFS.
IPFS does use Filecoin.
Filecoin on JnCloud does change a little bit of that as well
and helps to merge the two together.
I do remember last year in Argentina,
we got Filecoin on JnCloud pre-launched
during Argentina DevCon.
And at our field Dev Summit, was like um Juan Bennett who is
the founder for IPFS and Filecoin was he was in the room and he was like finally after six years
IPFS and Filecoin can finally work together like things from IPFS can be backed up to Filecoin
and we were like oh my gosh yeah it took us six years what um so that's and I'll allude to that
I'm alluding to the Filecoin on cloud, but that's how we got there.
So Falcon and IPFS are separate.
Falcon came about because IPFS saw the need for economic guarantees.
Then after about four years of Falcon, three years of Falcon running,
we saw a need to be able to run smart contracts on Falcon because people were asking, like, we can't go around making storage deals
by manually contacting through phone or email
a storage provider and being like, hey, can you store my data, dude?
Like, yeah, sure.
That's just not going to cut it, right?
So it has to be programmable to be able to be scalable.
And so retroactively, we built a virtual machine that is EBM compatible.
It went into Filecoin.
And so that's how we came with FBM.
And so that is also the basis
for why we have the file point on chain cloud today or are able to have it because you could
finally um run smart contracts and deploy them on file coin and fbm was really cool but also we were
held back a little it ran for about two years um we had a ton of builders we had a lot of different
people building applications i myself was uh being the team that ran three to four early
builder cohorts.
And so we had a bunch of builders that built with us
for six to nine months and went really, really far
and have continued to build, which is awesome to see.
But also we received a lot of good feedback
that is just still not fast enough.
Because Filecoin as a network was originally built with,
I think we also were the pioneers, one of the
pioneers to have ZK proofs way before ZK proofs were a thing. And we use ZK proofs within the
storage proofs that we have on Falcon blockchain. So storage providers will be required to provide
a ZK proof, which is computationally extremely heavy. And it takes like hours for them to complete
that challenge to show that they have the proof to show that they have the data available um and that led to storage deals being like it would take 24 to 72 hours
even with the fbm like you programmatically set it and be like store my data at 12 o'clock and it
would start your data but then you probably have to wait three days for your data to be stored which
is like you know back in pigeon days when we're like sending pigeons with letters, which is not what we want.
We shouldn't be there, right?
So we're like, okay, we definitely need to fix this.
Retriever is equally painful.
So right now, the only use case that we have is for really, really large data and mostly
cold storage.
And we have worked in many institutions.
We've worked with MT in New York.
We have several use cases.
We have Berkeley.
We have a few other universities
and storing a bunch of institutional data,
but it's meant for archiving and not really meant for them
to see it at any one point of time.
And so we wanted to shift into how can we allow developers
to use storage and retrieval, which
is what they really want, on the go and really, really fast.
And so we started designing, I think,
sometime early 2025, late 2024,
we started designing the Falcon on ChainCloud.
This was led by our crypto economic lab
within Protocol Labs.
One of the researchers, Nikola,
he came out with the thesis of like,
we should have Falcon on ChainCloud.
Think of it as a marketplace
with a bunch of storage retrieval services
within that marketplace that run as smart
contracts and it's all modular components and in the future you know falcon can do what falcon does
best and provide storage and retrieval first and if there are other options in the future for like
compute smart contracts imagine so you are able to run compute next to the data that is being stored
like a single storage provider could do data and compute physically where the data is being stored which will reduce cost and speed drastically so that is the vision
and so the fill off team which is the core dev team within filecoin again we are many different
entities today so that's the fill off team and that's run by molly and jennifer and they have
been building doing some incredible work with the engineering team they've been building out
the falcon on jane cloud and that is we today have storage and retrieval ready and that has building, doing some incredible work with the engineering team. They've been building out the Falcon on Jane Cloud.
And that is we today have storage and retrieval ready.
And that has allowed us to not only two things, two very key things.
The first one is to store data on a much smaller scale.
So there is no longer a minimum limit of like four gigabytes
of data, which developers for the two years that they were building
struggled, really struggled to be able to hit 4GB to store,
which is insane.
That's like a movie.
That's like a 180p movie.
And they just didn't start that, right?
So that has been reduced.
You can now store a minimum of 127 bytes,
which is a lot smaller.
And at the same time, we actually came out
with a new proof format that is very similar to the previous ZK
proof that I mentioned, because that actually interacts with the original consensus whereas now we have proof of data
possession and i know i'm saying a lot of words but tldr is like we have new proof format that's
a lot lighter and the same storage providers that have their physical hardware can now provide much
lighter proofs um it's a lot faster people with even smaller amounts of data storage can actually
participate as storage providers,
so we can have more.
And that allows your data to be stored much quicker.
We're down to seconds now rather than the hours I mentioned
before, which is insane.
72 hours down to, I don't know, I think the fastest,
we got close to just under a minute,
and we're still improving that drastically, which
is best improvement award.
In retrieval, we have a CDN now, a custom CDN
that has been built called Filebeam.
And that allows you to retrieve your data in under 10 seconds.
And we're continuously reducing the time to first byte.
And that is also complementary as part
of the Filecoin on Chain Cloud.
So all in all, you're able to store smaller data,
and also store it and retrieve it really, really quickly.
I can talk more about cost, but TLDR, like that's the evolution to the point of me seeing FOC being launched in 2026, 2025, 2026.
We just went to mainnet last month.
So that was really, really huge for us.
That's amazing.
That's quite the timeline and yeah i i remember just like
watching as as like all the different solutions around like the the filecoin ecosystem kind of
started to evolve everything kind of seemed at that time like to be its own kind of thing
but now like it was all puzzle pieces kind of coming together and i think this
is awesome to see um and uh it is it is like i said the law the law is important and the law
it's a lot it's a lot of law of course yeah the lord that that that's what that's what uh that's
what uh makes your brand kind of stick out right right? It's the lore behind it all.
But you mentioned that before we went on air,
you also have a couple of newer ways beyond what developers are accustomed to interacting
with Falcon today in CLI and MCP tool.
Did you want to get into that a little bit?
Yeah, for sure.
So with the Falcon on ChainCloud, we've actually...
So a few months ago, I think late last year, we pushed out an SDK.
So Philby and PhilAus worked together to ship mostly PhilAus,
and then Philby has been aggressively testing it and also improving it,
shipped the Synapse SDK, Synapse like the brain connection points um synapse one of our
engineers i think rod chose it um but it's called the synapse sdk and so it it was meant to be um
the easiest way they so we never had a native sdk for powerpoint uh for fpm um and we thought that
it would make developers life so much easier and And this is slightly before the AI boom hit.
So we developed the Signapse SDK.
It has been continuously evolving.
It's actually done some amazing work there.
And I can explain a little bit more about the architecture of the Farcoin
on-chain cloud in a bit.
But ever since we had the SDK, it's been well used at, I think,
quite a few hackathons.
We had about 100-plus projects building
of it since we shipped it last Q4.
And then moving ahead into this Q1 with my team, Philby, has actually Nick on my team
is an amazing engineer.
He's actually designed and shipped the FOC Falcon on Chain Cloud.
We actually fully encourage people to say what the fork.
We get it all.
We'll take the fucking cloud back.
Fully encourage you to say that.
So he built the Falk Storage MCP server sometime
December, January, and we tested it out.
And it actually made it really easy.
It's not hosted.
You have to host it yourself.
But once you have it hosted, it's actually really easy
to get your dev up and running.
So we have a lot of projects that we see coming in.
Builders that come into test, they usually first pass
is to build a storage simple,box style storage application. It used to take them about 24 to
48 hours to figure it out and build it with the FBM. And with just a sign of CESCK, it would be
down to 24. But now with MCP, it's like two hours, they're done, or even faster. And then just last
month, or I think actually three weeks ago, we shipped, Nick has
shipped the FOC CLI. So that actually contains an agent skill that your agent can easily download
and start shipping because everyone is now, who's coding? If you're on this podcast and you're coding,
FYI, you got to start prompting prompts only or agent skills only, right? And so we have the FOC
CLI for your agent to use. And that basically we've tested it.
We have an agent running and testing in the background.
From the time it hits the documentation fresh,
uses the skill, takes about stores
and receives the first piece of data.
I think it takes about seven minutes.
And I think the fastest resource five minutes.
So yeah, that should shortcut all your building.
So if you're deaf, please look out for those two things that NAP will be sharing.
That's one of the easiest things to use.
And you will be utilizing the Synapse SDK under the hood.
Yeah, amazing.
I love this all.
I love where all of this is headed.
And yes, definitely, if you're watching, listening to this,
those resources will be in the description of this podcast below.
Definitely check them out.
But you alluded to it before, Sarah.
I think it would be awesome to kind of get a high-level overview
of what the architecture of FOC looks like.
FOC looks like.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, definitely.
So there are a few.
So there are a few.
Kiso, as I mentioned earlier, the FOC stack
is intended to be a modular marketplace of several smart
contracts that allow you to put bits and pieces together
to build your own custom solution, whether it's
and it's all data related.
If it's storage only, retrieval only, storage retrieval,
if you want to build your own compute, you can.
And they should all work together.
But there's some core components within the FOC stack.
The first one being Filecoin Warm Storage Service.
The name might change, but right now it's called FWSS.
This is the main smart contract that
allows you to store your data.
So this fully just focuses on taking your data, prepping it,
storing it, and sending the proof, sending
it as a piece of data to the storage provider and then receiving back the proof.
So this is what that main storage, that FWSS smart contract is for.
So that's the first one.
Then that store.
So the second one would be around pay.
So we have a smart contract called BalkanPay, and this is also a very key contract.
I agree with even more important as the backbone of FOC rather than the storage contract,
because this is all about your payment and your money and where it will sit.
So what it allows you to do is to hold your own wallet.
The way that FOC works, we've also designed it in a way that it only pays upon verification.
So only at the point when the storage provider returns the proof of storage or the proof of data possession,
it's called PDP in FOC, only then can they receive the payment and only then does the
customer's funds actually get paid across. So until then if nobody sends the proof back,
you're not actually paying for anything, you don't pay anyone, you don't pay us, we don't handle
anything, it goes through the Filecoin Pay storage contract. So that is the Filecoin Pay storage
contract that's paid. And then the third component that I'll talk about
is not a smart contract.
This one is a CDN that we have.
So I mentioned earlier, Dunar,
that because Falcoin wanted to reach the speeds
that were requested by developers,
we actually had a team that was building PhilBeam.
The team is now part of PhilAus,
but this previously used to be a separate team, and now they've become part of PhilAus as well.
And it's called the CDN itself is called Filecoin Beam.
And so the interesting thing is that it actually allows you to retrieve your data at much lower rates compared to other alternatives out there in the market.
It's actually pretty comparable to AWS and slightly cheaper.
It's actually pretty comparable to AWS and slightly cheaper.
And it's constantly improving its speed.
Like currently it's about one second to retrieve a small piece of 1 MB, I think 10 MB data.
But we're getting faster and faster and even lower over time.
So those are the three components, store, pay, and retrieve in FOC as of today.
And we're continuously trying to expand that.
Right now we're very interested in looking into compute options or how we can add that as an additional component
to the marketplace.
We're actually looking out for partners
that we could work with, and we would
love to see even more use cases come up from builders
on how they want to use storage and compute.
But as of today, that's the current stack.
And yeah, it certainly seems like there's a nice set of puzzle pieces, a formula, if you will, kind of coming together for people to start building agents on with FOC.
I guess from your perspective, have you kind of seen a rise in interest in building agents around Filecoin?
a rise in interest in building agents around Filecoin?
Yeah, I think we are, honestly, we have been really happy with the reception when it came
into the agent side of things.
So, you know, AI boom and all, and then people started talking about, oh, what does a decentralized
AI stack look like?
And I think, well, shout out to Nada if you ever sees this, but thank you for tweeting about Filecoin IPFS as part of the dream team, yeah, the DEI or decentralized agent stack.
So, Filecoin IPFS is very well recognized.
I think if you ask builders in general on Web3, decentralized storage-wise, who would
Most of the time, the first answer that comes
is Filecoin IPFS, and we're glad to have
such brand recognition.
Of course, we backed it up with the stack
that we have available today, but we do see many builders
interested in building agents.
We actually have a really cool demo using Filecoin PIN,
which I don't think I have time to show,
but I can very quickly talk about it,
and actually it is very quickly executed as well.
So if you are using ERC-8004, we've been partnering very closely with the team.
We actually think we were, yeah, in Argentina, we were part of the agent day.
And then also recently, we did a synthesis hackathon with EF and also was very closely
working with them for their launch.
But if you're using ERC-A004, which is agent registry,
to register your agent on a blockchain,
to register its identity,
you can actually take the metadata URI of your agent card
and you can actually store that to IPFS.
Before you, if you can store IPFS using Filecoin PIN.
Don't get confused if I want to say IPFS.
I'll quickly talk about Filecoin Pin, which is opening up yet another branch of lore.
But very quickly, Filecoin Pin is like I mentioned earlier that IPFS and Filecoin has always dreamed of being merged together.
Of course, they are two separate technologies.
But with Filecoin Pin, it was actually an application that we wanted to use as a demo for the FOC stack.
And so the first thing we thought of was how do you connect an IPFS interface or people using IPFS,
have it pinned onto an IPFS node so as to be cached very quickly,
but to have it also automatically backed up the Filecoin
at a very, very low cost,
such that all your IPFS storage can actually be guaranteed
and stocked permanently on Filecoin,
as long as you pay for that storage.
So that's Filecoin PIN.
But as I go back to your agent stack,
if you're using your agent card,
you can store it onto IPFS and Filecoin
using Filecoin PIN, which is very easy to use.
As a CLI, again, you could use any of the resources
I mentioned earlier as well.
And then you could instantly register that
and your agent card is basically registered
and stored forever.
So your agent never really disappears and you don't really have to pay that high an amount,
it's almost negligible. So yeah, I think that's like the dream case and I think many developers
are very excited about that. Other things that we're looking at here as well, like we do see many
devs when we see, we ran synthesis recently, we're doing a few more hackathons coming up,
and I think a lot of the use cases that we see is to store agent metadata.
So agent logs are also something that's being stored.
Episodic memory for agents.
Maybe also, like, the context of the conversations, the outputs.
Still pretty light, still within the KB to GB range.
But all this is being stored on FOC today.
And I think further, we're looking into the market
for AI around vector databases, which
is larger and larger amounts of data that we expect.
There's also a very healthy ratio between hot storage
and cold storage for vector databases.
So we think that we could really play a big part there.
Because Falcon is the largest decentralized storage network.
In terms of storage capacity, we have
exabytes of data available.
So we're really interested in today's use cases
and then also synthetic data.
So something that we're looking into because it also
touches on the hot storage to cold storage
and from small to large pieces.
So I think these are some of the use cases
that we're very interested in for AI.
And I guess, are you guys looking for contributors
to help build that out or any specific grants
programs for people to kind of get involved?
Yeah, I'm actually working on a grants program right now.
So I guess it's on me.
I'm also currently on vacation.
Yeah, give me like a week.
Yeah, I'll come back.
But we're working on something right now. I think we we think is very interesting about this grant program is that
um and i think in the this is less file coin centric but more like general space for developers
it's grants usually went to building and apply applications so more build focus
but now we're actually very curious about how can we be more gtm focused with teams given what ai
has transformed for everyone.
Of course, we still want really impactful use cases.
We still want a high level of technical skill and understanding.
But we know people can build faster than ever, and we're more interested in detraction.
So we're looking at milestone-based traction and how best we can support you with the GRAND program if you're building on FOC.
So do look out for that.
We will be keeping an eye out for any teams that participate
in the hackathons that we're running.
We just ran PR Genesis and we just finished Genesis.
We're looking at a few more coming up.
So stay tuned on the Falkoin account
if any hackathons are coming up.
And my team's six people.
If you win, we'll see you.
We'll know who you are.
If you apply for the grants, we'll also know who you are.
So yeah, just stay locked in. And we'll definitely take note of you. And apply for the grants, we'll also know who you are. So yeah, just stay locked in
and we'll definitely take note of you.
And if you're interested, come talk to us
and we're more than happy to help you grow.
Wonderfully said.
And yeah, you answered my last question as well.
So there you go.
That's where you can follow Sarah
and all the great stuff Filecoin
and the Filecoin
Oz network is kind of building.
So definitely get involved.
Filecoin, like we mentioned, and you heard in the lore, has grown quite a bit since the
early days.
So no better time than now to get building.
Sarah, thank you so much for taking the time
out of your vacation
to come talk to us today
I really enjoyed our chat and I know our audience
Thanks so much, Nath
I did very much too and yeah, thank you for having me
and thank you for having us
For sure, my pleasure
and yeah, with that, I just want to wish everybody
a very happy Friday,
happy weekend, wherever you may be. And we'll catch you back here for another great episode
next week. Until then, have a good one, folks. Cheers. Bye.