DID AI just change Web3?

Recorded: Dec. 15, 2022 Duration: 1:02:09

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D to the M family, how is everyone doing? Welcome to D to AI, just change Web 3.
We'll give a couple of minutes for everyone to join us. In the meanwhile, make yourself comfortable, get yourself a cup of coffee, a shot of whiskey, whatever is your fancy, and LFD.
Can everybody hear fine?
Yes, I'm tea. How you doing, bro? How you feeling now?
actually still quite under the weather sadly I don't know these things seem like asthma attacks now so I might be out
muted for a little longer than I was hoping for. Oh no you sound a bit slightly different as well never mind I hope like you know you can chime in just here and there but just no problem bro
Yes Eric, what's going on? We're so nice to see you again and again. Thank you so much for joining us for this conversation.
Hey, hey, it's good to see you all.
Yes, node diggerdy. How are you my bro? We meet a game
It seems like we can't stop bumping into each other. Uh, these days, sorry, I'm still at work and there's people asking me shit. I'm just starting stuff. Hang on, I gotta mute.
That's a good sign bro, that's a good sign. It means we are vibing on the same frequency. It's always a good sign.
Right guys, people who participate in today's conversation will also be a vote, you know, we will be giving out 10 loyal NFTs for lucky participants. So I mean, feel free to like ask us questions.
questions and if you don't want to come up and join the conversation you can always type your questions just to kind of like just let us know that you know you're involvement really and yeah we are giving out
10 loyal NFTs and each loyal NFT is like it's like the it's got a utility attached to it so like every time there's an event there's a you know there's always like some sort of a utility of the loyalty NFT basically so like
like just holding that into your wallet can entitle you to some sort of reward and stuff. So it's not just an NFT, it's our ontology's loyalty NFT. I tried to do the MNS advert there.
Polaris, so like as soon as you said, hey, how's it going? I was about to answer no one's talked to me in two hours. As you know, I run a restaurant, so I was here like prepping for stuff. And I'm not doing anything that's mind-consuming. I'm just like doing much
day in work. And the second I unmuted to start talking to you, someone started shouting orders at me. It just couldn't have happened to the worst time. I'm so sorry for that everybody. I apologize and I'm present and high. Good to see you again, players.
No problem or no problem or bro. I mean, thank you so much for like joining us and So the conversation today is about
artificial intelligence, you know. So,
to start the conversation off like, you know.
What I will do is I will ask all the speakers to have give us their overview of what they think artificial intelligence is and maybe
touch a bit about its use cases from their perspective. So I'll start with the Humpty. I mean, if you want to just like, if you're okay to talk or like, let me know.
Just listening in for now, but happy to contribute wherever I can.
cool. So I'll start and
Artificial intelligence, basically, I think, is the evolution of computing. And I think that--
people who were working on artificial intelligence in back in 2004, but the way we approached it was from a very centralized and internet way instead of the internet way. As a result, we
We truly didn't extrapolate it on what it could do. And then of course the computing power as times, you know, went forward and fast forward, we're back. We're here in 2022. Computing, like, you know, the M2 chips are pretty, pretty intense.
especially in the last one year, I've noticed like, you know, things have gone on an exponential rate in terms of
artificial intelligence taking over almost all factions of
of what we do in our daily interactions and web three environments. And I remember like creating Dalai I think was one of the AIs, which was used to like use
prompts, you would give them prompts and then it will come up with images and that was like and then not everyone had access to it about a year ago and there's very few people had access to it and then they so the people who had access to it they created a
and API connection to that access. And then I managed to get hold of that. And I've done some images just on prompts and it was amazing the whole process. And fast forward here.
We've come to a point now that
We've got AI is optimizing language models for dialogues. We've got AI connecting to Ethereum nodes which are connected to hospitals.
which are taking live data from cancer patients or cancer operations or cancers themselves. And they're all connected on a super node, which is connected to an AI.
which is processing data like
We never would have been able to process and it's revolutionizing the way we do medicine. I'm pretty sure that if we use the
the algorithms or if we the trained AI towards cleaning up the ocean right or creating like algorithms for freight logistics design. I think like the power of blockchain has facilitated AI to move further and in a way which is truly empowering
for the software, like the whole the attributes which we get from decentralization. And it's gone crazy. It's like, you know, you can write a book now with just like you can write paragraphs, you can create campaigns. And I think that going forward,
And this is just a crazy hypothetical scenario that AI could possibly be so intense and so powerful that eventually they have some sort of an existential crisis and we go through the John Conor stage. Sorry guys, that was just a joke. So don't take me off.
that. But yeah. I mean, can we bridge the conversation to talk about like self-sover and data, right? I mean, that's one thing that anthology has been talking about for a long time is decentralized identity data. And I wonder maybe we can bridge the discussion
to at least be curious in terms of what artificial intelligence could look like with ownership of our own data. I'm not saying this is something someone's working on, maybe there are, but in terms of ownership of our data, I wonder if there's a future where
We have personal AI, personal assistance, and they're able to like mine our data and ways that are self-sover and still where we continue to retain ownership of that data.
to provide us with very interesting ways of perceiving our world and then maybe just kind of allowing us to like do really fun stuff with that.
And that's I think that's where I was eventually going to come towards that. If you can connect all that information and if you can train an artificial intelligence model to assess
on chain metrics, for example.
and then use those on chain matrix to connect with the real life.
enterprise and then use that real life enterprise towards you know so you've got all these data heads coming and you've already got a trained AI model there which is processing that permission. That's like a match made in heaven really. So like same with the freight logistics like you know if you're going to have
like you know all these different freight liners dispersed all across the globe and now you've connected them using blockchain and they're using secure networks and you're identifying them using
some sort of, you know, login or identity models like on tidy, maybe perhaps. And then using the information coming from that blockchain data points and feeding it AI, which can eventually after like a year or so
We are able to process that information and come up with the best comprehensive routes. I think we discussed that last year about some of the organizations which are working with ontology. We have tried to do that but they have done that with ticketing. I remember last year we had this conversation.
with someone can come from Singapore and go down to London and there all of that journey can be booked through some sort of an on-chain automatic
Smart contracts now these smart contracts can very well be powered by AI and Now this is the very dangerous thing that That the AI can actually create this smart contracts all you have to do is just tell it and it makes a smart contract
contract for you and you can just tell it that look I want to incorporate some sort of identity logins and I want you to like you know in cope research for the web for let's say you know like ethos kind of a wallet and then I want you to like use the on chain metrics which
Let's say have been created by ontology for Oscorp or Orange Protocol and just use that and it'll do it right no dig it. He go for it. I was thinking I was going to answer the question you asked and then I tacked on and answer the question Humpty asked at the end of it so I'll just I'll make this
I think if we're to boil it all down to the very beginning, humans are kind of like the first, I mean intelligence, that's kind of egocentric. We're the first artificial intelligence. We're created out of meat, not out of robot parts, so we are, I don't know, who knows what made us or how it made us, but I would consider us to be what our
artificial intelligence is sort of aiming for. So if you are to use a computer in modern times or slightly less than modern times, it's using human creative input to solve mundane problems that we don't feel like solving. Like if I have to add column A and column B all the time, it's nice if column C just knows to add
those two and then I can just stop thinking about that. And I can move on to doing what is important for humans to do, which is push forward and creatively solve problems. If we are to use AI in the fashion that we're using computers right now, it would be to accelerate the ability using computing power to generate
new solutions to problems we have and identify them faster and stronger in a way that I don't think has been possible in the past. So if we're to point in that direction, it kind of like we end up in this philosophical quandary about whether or not we're going to be necessary or if we are just sort of like a road bumps
Despite the fact that we've created it. So I think that self-sovereign identity maintaining, maybe not control control isn't quite the word I'm looking for, but maintaining some sort of individual identity. It's just it's in the name of the thing, self-sovereign identity. Maintaining that we are still us and not
Just having this AI run away from us and be a better version of us and completely negate or decide that our existence is no longer necessary. So I think somehow DID comes into this and I haven't really thought about how but I think it has something to do with maintaining our humanity post AI integration. Fire away Eric.
Yeah, yeah, I like the way of thinking of it like as you know, as a computer is this has assisted us It's kind of like a calculator, right? Like you know, we could like sit down and do long division on paper, right? But I don't think anyone could argue that that's like a better way of doing things. You're like, you know, you
use calculators to accelerate these processes and we use Excel as a tool to be able to process thousands of transactions, just very quickly. So apply that to writing or to more of the written format as opposed to numbers. And that's kind of like what these new AI tools are
helping us do. Solving writer's block for any online marketers or any bloggers for any creatives that need more ideas or somebody needs to brainstorm copy writers. It's taken the same thing that calculators did for mathematics and operations.
now is taking a being applied to an onistic grader writing because it also accounts for any kind of writing, right? It takes place online. But yeah, there is an element of the data that is important and kind of goes hand in hand. As Hunti had said about the sovereign data, I know there's been some backlash and some controversy
the AI avatar apps and people are starting to question, what permissions are you giving this app when you upload your photos to it for it to remix and then generate your AI avatars? So there's a lot of questions around that that I think are important. There was an issue like that.
I think two years ago when there was another app called FaceApp and that did a similar thing where it could change the way that you look and then return a result. And there it had some big controversy because first when you used the app, I believe you gave it access to, you gave a permission to hold
on to a copy of your photos forever, even if you delete the app and delete your account. So there's some concerns around privacy, but I agree that these things are mind-blowingly accurate and it's almost scary to a point. I used that app years ago and I uploaded a photo
to do one of those AI generation things. And then I tried it again like another year later or so and I tried to generate a photo of myself where you know it made me smile and it made me show my teeth and it got the the crook in my teeth the crook in my front tooth it got it correctly.
So it didn't just paste like a smiling mouth or like a set of teeth into it. It went back and it used my old set of teeth from another photo and it used that one. So yeah, there's a level of concern there. I mean, it's good because it works. But yeah, the data is important.
to make sure that people remain controlled with their data. And really the other way to do that is to make it to flip the business models on his head. Because, you know, like how a I come to this gonna make money. Right now the current business model is like to go like the data and sell the data to partners. That's not a good outlook if that's the direction we go in.
Excellent. That's valid points from everyone. I just think that you know for AI to kind of like I think like the business model is not really a business model because it's open source isn't it? So like anyone can kind of like connect to that open source
technology and extrapolate on that, create an app and then, but really they're all connected to an open source technology. But when we look at that open source technology, what integrations can we have with something like that and enhance our Web 3 experience?
For example, what this conversation is about, for example, AI just changed Web 3. How can we see Web 3 being changed apart from opening up writers block and someone wants to create an NFT marketing strategy?
and they use AI for that. What about, what are the things like, you know, does that hypothetical scenario where we connect freight line, you know, freight lines with blockchain and use that data and connect that with
a self-souvern identity service which eventually feeds on to an AI which eventually tells us that look you shouldn't be like taking a lamb from New Zealand and sending it to England and you know you should be trying to save like the carbon emissions because
Because all these things are very important as we move forward, corporate social responsibilities and being responsible for your carbon emissions. It always keeps on going in and out. How can we use this technology which we already have?
and the power of AI which has exponentially grown or created such exponential growth that it's hard to comprehend. AI is creating books for us, it's writing books for us.
So can you guys like shed some light on that? Like what do you guys think on that point of view?
I think for one that applied to the metaverse AI could definitely help with population in the sense that there's definitely been some issues where people have that have used Web 3, have joined Web 3 communities or people that have
to like metaverse experiences is a low amount of daily active users. So they don't really see too many other people there. So I brought up the use case once of if you have AI and if T's are in that AI that that populate like NPCs that you can talk to and get customer support from.
Or in the case of like the central end or like a metaverse, it would just be like gives you more things to do and more people to talk to, people will be more willing to come back and to use the app more while it has a low amount of real like people using
Using it currently, you can have a lot of NPCs that are smarter and controlled by AI to create a better experience for people. But I think that extends further to the area of like customer support. Like there's definitely a lot of people that always have these issues, especially in the web 3 space. It is a little difficult to use some of these apps.
So people having better customer support, not having to talk to somebody like every time that they need help, but being able to have an AI that can assist them. I think that would be helpful. And then as you mentioned, it applies to supply chains.
And kind of like this area of like Oracle, where AI can really help with doing some on-chain analytics. It can really help with inputting proper data onto the blockchain and helping check that data, which is normally like a job for humans, but can get very difficult when it's like a person looking at thousands of
transactions on a spreadsheet all day, right? Like having these tools assist us on ensuring that data is properly being entered is very important in cases like supply chain where somebody has to have those right keys to be able to add data to the chain, right? Like the supply chain info.
What about taxation addict? That's another one as well. Like, you know, the governments could just create a tax bot powered by AI, give its metrics. Next thing, you know, people are submitting their tax returns. The AI is doing it for them.
Yeah, yeah, I think that Yeah for the taxes is interesting because Right now most of the software takes the approach of like okay, you need rules like To read a certain transaction a certain way like if if this looks like a if this is a transfer market as a depositor withdraw
If this is a exchange or a swap, then market as a trade, and then it just makes thousands of these rules, but there's always edge cases. There's always a new product or new DAP that does a new thing, like a rebase token or a lending. What if you lend it and then it has to account for a
So I think that, yeah, I think that AI can help with creating smarter tax processing software, right? Like, I mean, you could do it for any kind of analytics of on-chain analytics. Like, there's such a wealth of data on the blockchain.
and everything is transacted, right? It's a one long, long ledger. So, yeah, more having more sophisticated tools to be able to read it and translate it into like human readable language and decipher what it means colloquially. Yeah, I think that that's important for AI to be able to do and that's something you could help with.
Cool cool cool. That's amazing. No dignity. Would you like to add something, bro? Yeah, I'm not sure if this directly answers the question you were asking, but I this popped into my head while I was talking with regards to the DID question or the
the DID framework that we're revolving around here. When an AI bot is created, is it, like, who's is it? Do I, if I make an AI bot, is the AI mine? Or is it its, is it its own entity and can it buy a house and
Transact with the world in the same way like I don't know what ends up in like a metallic skin at some point and like Interacts with the world in the same way. We do does it now need its own DID I think is a fairly interesting question does it have to pay taxes? Go ahead, plus
So this is a very interesting story guys. So about seven months ago, eight months ago, you know, the AI dot or G, okay.
I think is the website where you can connect your APIs and you get like you connect to like basically the super brain AI and once the API is connected then you can train the AI to do whatever. So this chap,
He used to write a journal when he was a child and what he did was he got a microwave and he like took the microwave's chip out and he connected that with the API and put a CPU on the microwave, right?
like the microwave retained its function, but it also had a brain which was powered by AI. And then he fed that AI with all the childhood journals which he had. So he wanted to talk to himself and use a kid basically, right?
Sorry, sorry, sorry. He just wanted to talk to someone. So what he did was he, that's a different story. What he did was he fed that AI with the personality of someone who was a world, second world war veteran basically. So, you know, his journals like, you know, he got
short and he had PTSD blah blah blah all of that was fed onto the AI. It was just a file copy pasted and then the conversations start you know every day he's talking to the microwave the microwave is talking back and then you know he found a girlfriend so he started giving more time to the
friend. And next thing, you know, you know, it's been five, six days, he didn't get interactions. So when he did start the computer or when he did start interacting with the AI, the AI felt like irritated and the answers were like very like, you know, sharp. So he thought something's wrong with it. So he
switched it off again the next time when he started the AI asked him to like you know I want you to put your hand inside of me like inside the microwave and he said that okay you know I'll do that and the next thing you know the microwave switched itself on right so he wanted to like
Blitz is his friend because you know so I don't know take it with a grain of salt lads or Family that there is pretty intense, you know and we have to be careful how we deal with it because if you're giving some sort of an autonomy to
to an entity which has the power to make a decision. Then that decision could be anything at the end of the day, right? You have given it autonomy to make a decision on your behalf according to certain rules and regulations. We as humans, we forget sometimes that we contradict ourselves
that's been moved forward, but the AI can't contradict itself. And as soon as that conflict of interest happens, how or how does things react or how, like, you know, will it be some sort of a microwave situation? I don't want to paste. I don't want to paint a dystopian
utopia where we're fighting with transformers or all of that. But it's going to be very interesting. And that leads us to this question that can we prevent the quantum computing being connected to AI?
and get goodness out of it and prevent any issues which could cause problems. We could definitely improve our coherence as a planet using AI. We could use it for so many other things.
management, basic management, all of the basic management should be done by robots. We human beings should be trying to explore different planets and surviving and stuff. So this is a good thing. Also, when we do business, we could connect, we've already
We've got a good system in place where we've got a blockchain system which works on immutable ledgers and then we've got a good smart contract system which gets executed and then we've got organizations
who are working on creating some sort of a connection, real life connection to those smart contracts and blockchains, like for example, on anthology using DID, right? That's an self-souwering identity stack and then also like, you know,
coming up with different things which facilitate us understanding that blockchain more. Why can't we use AI on top of that to supercharge this whole thing? It makes sense. To me, it does. No dig it, you go for it.
You know, this might be a question for Eric or Humpty if he's willing to talk more than it is you and I. Of course, although maybe you haven't answered this and I don't know about it. Something I've never considered. Okay, so I started out thinking, okay, DID and AI. How does the ID apply to AI? I never really thought to myself, how does AI apply to DID?
How do we incorporate artificial intelligence bots or technology into the DID field such that it accelerates on an exponential level the capabilities that DID has and how it might impact our lives in the short term. I guess that is that for you. Yeah, healthy, fire away.
Yeah, you know, I mean just riffing here, right? I think DID for context, they're not just identifiers. Your headset muted, Humpty. Can you hear me? Your icon's unmuted, but I can't hear you. No, no, we can hear him though. So you can't okay by that. I'll shut up. Can you hear me?
Yes, okay, yeah, so I just wanted to add some clarity and maybe this is already common knowledge, but you know DIDs are decentralized identifiers. They're not strictly for humans, right? Therefore any
So, DIDs could be assigned to individuals to prove their uniqueness for much more obviously, which DID enables, but also it provides
We can do the same thing for devices, for organizations where there are these decentralized identifiers for these unique entities. And the one thing that I think of on the
because of the work that we've been doing, you know, through Orange Protocol and other projects, is this idea of reputation. And we can think of, you know, an AI, for instance, having a decentralized identifier. And, excuse me.
All of their reputation being captured through verifiable credentials, right? And there is some kind of scoring feature for ensuring that the AI is actually performing at its highest efficiency and effectiveness.
If that reputation is low, that AI could potentially be replaced by some other AI that has better reputation. So just kind of thinking about that question from a DID standpoint, but also from a reputation
to a stand point and for how just the way that we see the opportunities for building reputation for ourselves in this digital ecosystem, the tools themselves could also have a way to build their reputation.
That's an excellent answer. Thank you so much. And that just opens up a whole new, you know, new kind of topic of conversation like, you know, how do you facilitate AI?
with on-tide or any sort of identity matrix and then unleash it onto different use cases really. Eric, have you got anything to say about this, bro?
Yeah, I really like that angle of thinking about it. I mean, yeah, you could attach a DID to not just people, but like to objects and entities, whether it's like a dumb object, like a solar panel.
that's minting, you know, when I started out in this space, it was working on renewable energy credits on a blockchain, and that used the DID where the solar panel for every kilowatt hour of electricity, the solar panel produced, it would mint one
ability to contribute to a blockchain system or be a part of the blockchain system and needs a way to be able to be identified on the network and then you can attach a level of reputation to it where if it's performing well, like a node, imagine a node that was
run by an AI that knew how to change the settings and was able to ensure maximum uptime and adjust the fee, the, you know, like, onontology, you can like switch the fee that you take versus the fee that you give away and it could adjust it for optimal. Like, okay, now we're in a period of growth, so reduce our
cut now we're in a period of abundance so like increase our cuts so we can scale operations. Like this was a whole idea of like what DALs would be able to achieve is not even I mean yeah you could have people come together and collectively vote on on each decision which is kind of like how DALs are now which I like because I think it's
very cool to have people come in and be able to like be like a you know have a voting power and have signed voting power in interesting ways like you could have signed voting power through reputation but I also think the ideas of Dow's being run entirely by AI is also interesting where you can have an on-chain entity that
has a budget is able to transact and is able to execute on something and make adjustments to a system like say a lending platform where the fees and the structures were adjusted by AI that was taken to account all these risk factors and then it just run itself and then it just
be like a public service that exists right it wouldn't even need funding to like maintain a staff of people that could then it could then be shut down if it goes bankrupt right it was just kind of like exist on the internet as like a public service so I think that kind of stuff is really cool I agree and you know as you was
mentioning that. So I remember AI basically can be attached to drones now and the technology is being used at the moment by a lot of governments at the moment that you can throw the drone onto the canopy.
And all it needs to know is the person entering the canopy. And it can put it so sharp that it knows where the person would be instead of like, because you know, you can in like in the way like drones work in terms of detecting humans or survivors.
Sometimes it's hard to know or rescue missions. So now it can tell that. So the same scenario which you've just presented, we could use that scenario and we could equip AI with the drone but instead of trying to find rescuers you're attaching or
organic crops and every single crop has been given some sort of an ID or it could be any sort of manufacturing which could be done completely based on AI. So yeah, it's really interesting and it opens up our, like the conversation
It's gone really intense if you think about the use cases of AI with the combination of DID. Now we've got quite a lot of people who are joining us at the moment and I've had crypto, is it Mario?
Yeah, it's Mario. Yes, Mario, bro. How you doing, my brother? Welcome to the stage. Welcome to the stage. So, I think, questions for us.
Yes, I have. I left him up, I think.
Alright, it's gonna go in.
Hello. Yes, yes, go for it Mario. Tell us the question please. All right, all right. I just want to like actually getting the beer market situation now. They're looking at your projects. I know you guys are doing a wonderful job. So I just want to know as a project
What strategy would you see? It has worked for you so far in gaining mass adoption to your platform. And if so, do you think this need improving or do you think adopting a new strategy is needed based on the current beer marketing situation now?
Right, I'll go for it first and then I'll let anyone else answer it. So personally like as far as ontologies concern, you know, we've been building my brother, you know, if you follow us, you notice that we are here every week. It doesn't matter.
In fact, we don't even talk about the bear market or the bull market because we're so focused on trying to provide value, which is why are we here in the first place and what are we trying to achieve? So if you notice this conversation which you had so far, it's all about trying to come up with an idea.
or an understanding that the technology is there, but how can it help us facilitate and create an ecosystem or a way of doing things which can make our lives better in one
we are in the simple terms. As that journey becomes more and more comprehensive and as we start making lives of enterprises or organizations or our users better by providing
service or providing an ecosystem which can do all these different things, all these different credentials will eventually get more people to use it. And I think this is where the mass adoption element would kick in. So excellent question. Anyone else wants to have a dig at it? Go for it, boys.
I mean, coming from my standpoint, I'm rather new to this ecosystem, I guess probably two years now. So, so watching the market movements and what ontologies doing during those things, it doesn't change, as Polaris said, I mean, as far as I might
perception of it has gone. It just continues to move forward at the same clip regardless. Because I mean the token price can be exciting of course and the token price can be depressing but it really doesn't affect the fundamentals of like the concepts of what we're doing. So I think that uh on to app
The very multi-chain, anti-D plugged in app that is like everyone in the world has a mobile phone. The key to mass adoption is hitting every single person and creating no barriers eventually whatsoever. If there's someone who doesn't have a mobile phone, they have much larger problems than not particularly in the
I don't think I've ever met someone who doesn't have one. So that being said, the whole own infrastructure concept, all the way from the layer one, blockchain itself to the layer two additions to the, uh, charting and EVM.
on many, sorry, EVMs on the EVM and then virtual machines on other chains. We are doing literally every single thing I can think of as an individual to spread that like the root structure through every plot of land that exists on the planet. It seems like it's already occurring.
That's the answer I got. Well, that is really wonderful. And actually answer my second question because I actually wanted to ask concerning what's the theme of actually a cheap sofa and the plants for the
the next upcoming years. I think I'm working with some of the explanation that our anthology program has given. I would like to be part of this community and I wish this project nothing but success. Hey, if I might add before you, if you're going to drop down or before you take off, join the anthology
court server, I write a column there that's about weekly and it's called the TLDR and it jumps into things not only that ontology is currently doing and is currently accomplishing or trying to accomplish the things that it has and it's a really quick like one paragraph overview of one concept at a time and I think it's well worth digging into if you're interested in doing that so far with that.
Oh god, it's good, it's good.
Also Mario, congratulations my brother, you've also won a loyalty NFT as well. So if you could send a message. Well, thanks my brother. That would be perfect.
They've been there patient-related. What's up?
Hello, good day everyone. Hello, hello, sorry brother, I should have called you first. It's my mistake really. You have the one who joined and from my apologies.
I'm really good my brother now even better now that I heard your voice so let's go what's the question yeah my question is about the ontology blockchain and your wallet
my lemme first ask about your blockchain I want to know like this credibility and the gasp of your blockchain because as I'm talking I'm actually a holder of your token in my trust wallet so I want to know like
I also want to know whether you have a defy up where I can be able to swap maybe from ontology to a stable coin. Thank you, that's my first patient. Might as well go for the second one as well.
Okay, and the second question is about your wallet. Like, I don't know, is there a provision for like, like, let me see, this, I did my NFT, is there a market
for NFTs and also you currently have plans to integrate more blockchain like your platform and partnership you currently have
have plans to partner with other wallets such as metamags, toss wallets, and what have you. Thank you. I've got a couple for us to go ahead or go ahead.
So I've been hearing rumors that we're going to integrate. This is not from ontologies from something else that goes market is planned to integrate ontology and if he says possible that that'll happen. Don't quote me on that though. I've just heard g wings of it. As far as decks stuff goes, it kind of depends on where you're located.
Whether you can use a VPN or not, but Exodus is what I've been using. There's nothing native. I think there's a unified protocol that is, here's where the bear market comes. Probably kind of low in liquidity and somebody stopped me from rolling here. I've had a bit of difficulty moving things smoothly through Unify recently.
Exitist seems to still have high liquidity and lots of exchanges have liquidity so if you're able to bounce into a centralized exchange real quick just to swap some on t4o and g or whatever it is you're looking to do that's been my method lately and as far as the gas fees go every transaction costs 0.05 on g
And if you stake your ONT, you get ONG. So the ONG is essentially free if you have ONT, as long as you're staking it. There are a variety of ways to do that. Feel free to send me a DM on Twitter after this, and I can send you a whole bunch of links or just answer some questions more thoroughly so that we know I could do this for part of the day.
probably two hours and I bet everybody up here could. I hope that answers or at least preliminarily some of those and I mean it do reach out via via DM on Twitter and I'm happy to answer stuff. It seems like he's dropped out for some reason but I hope these answers help and
On to wallet as well. I was going to mention if he comes back, you know, on to all it is the basically it just keeps on so many blockchains on the. Yeah. What did Ding Dong? I said I opened those up earlier. Thank you.
Yes, so I was talking about ontology wallet. So that's the that's another thing which if the NFT collector comes and listens to it. Right. So ice cream. That's the new one. Ice cream boil. How are you, bro?
Hey, it's the Occanon here, my bro.
Yes, I can. How are you doing? I'm fine. Can I ask you a question?
Okay. My question is, how do you plan to retain long-term investors and what are the benefits of retaining them? Are you planning to move another blockchain in the future or launch your Maynet? That's my question.
Okay, so the main thing is like copypasta. I'm just gonna be a little real here. That seems like a copypasta question. I'm sorry. I'm told you obviously has a main net.
You know, Entology is a blockchain, so I'm not quite sure where the blockchain would go. If you want it to be more specific in terms of what tooling and Entology, you'd like to see it in another blockchain. I'm sure there's opportunities there to kind of respond to that question, but yeah.
Yeah, we do have we did launch the EVM main net so that there's something that Now the smart contracts can be written in solidity as well as the originally how they could be written in Java and C sharp or no sorry C++ so that as
the opportunity for more projects to be able to deploy an ontology. Also, you know, it adds support for Metamask so you can just import the ontology EVM right into the Metamask, just switch the network super easy. And then like Humpty said, like the ontology tooling is constantly being deployed on other blockchains
as well, like anti-D, is written in deployed on multiple blockchains and that adds interconnectivity between the chains. So it makes ontology a cross-chain solution as well as just being on its own chain. And, you know, as for, you know, as for
being a token holder, that's a personal choice. If somebody wants to be a part of the community, they can own the token and stake or vote or whatever they like to do.
So ice cream boy, I hope that answered your question. Thank you very much. I really like your PFP. It's reminding me of ice cream. So I might have some. But on the positive note, you've
You've got some, you want an NFT bro? It's not an ice cream NFT, it's a loyalty NFT and if you hold it on your wallet it'll bring surprises. It's not going to be ice cream, okay? Right, thank you very much. Right guys, we've got hot pizza, basically we've got
like so we just had ice cream and now we've got hot pizza so yes it's said another Thursday night here with ontology and chilling with hot pizza. How's it going my
Yeah, fine. Actually, thank you for giving me another chance to ask my question. I had you talking about your sticking program. So I know, like I'm curious to know
as an investor, will there be any minimum or maximum amount of on top that can be like stick on your platform and idea any risk for sticking?
on ontology platform. That's a very nice thing. No diggy, do you want to go for it bro? Yeah sure me. I always poke around these numbers. I love this stuff. The minimum for staking is 1 ONT because these things did recently change so well recently.
a couple of years ago, I think. But you only need one ONT to stake. And the maximum, I mean, there's a maximum per node, rather, whether it's a candidate or consensus node. But if you want to stake every single token, you want to buy every single entity token out there, you can find a place to stake it. So there really is no maximum.
So I hope that answers your question, bro. You have also a loyalty NFT. So which ones your favorite pizza then?
Just after records. Which one is your favorite? Do you like pizza? Yeah, I really like pizza which one?
It actually the normal one. Okay, make sense. Right. So guys, this has been a brilliant Q&A session and... Hey Polaroid. What's your favorite pizza?
My favorite pizza is I don't really like it a normal one because they don't really fill me up to be quite honest bro so but if I was to go for it I would go for an Italian pizza you know thin based with olives mozzarella cheese and a bit of
pieces of margarita, which means it literally is just cheese tomato sauce and basil is super simple. I like to find the perfection and simplicity and that really kind of for me. I have a bit of a nerd for finding the best vanilla ice cream as I am an nerd for finding the best
I'm gonna say if you like spicy, try the spicy Italian ham. I think it's called like capicola ham on your pizza. Oh my gosh. Like that'll fill your need for spicy and Italian. Is this considered it out? I quit. Alright, so really
I think, I think, foundationally strong simplicity is more than a whole collage of flavors that are overwhelming. But I'm a panda-paws ice cream guy and I'm a chicken and pesto pizza guy. And I don't know where that lines up. I don't think I even believe what I'm saying. It's just what's true.
Yeah, that's not simple. That's pretty, pretty complex flavors. A couple of years ago.
I went to New York on a very, very small budget. Like I was sleeping in a closet. But the whole purpose of that trip for me was to find the best pizza in New York. And I literally was eating about like six pies a day.
And I do mean pie is not like a slice because if you go to New York and you ask for a slice, you're not getting the premium ingredients. You need to order the whole pie. And so I was there for like
Yeah, would you find the best one? I used to go through the corner from Artichoke pizza on 14th Street and that was the go-to for all the staff at the bar that I worked at. I think it used to be on the low-rise side called Luzel, something like that.
And they have the best pizza and the best people too. Oh my gosh, people are so cool. Anyway, hot pizza. Thanks for introducing a. Well, we need to eat a delicious. I can't just, you can't let Eric like, you know, Eric, please tell us which which is your favorite ice cream and which pizza would you prefer?
I'm very uh
I'm one of those I'm one of those closeted ham and pineapple pizza lovers. I knew it's so much. Yeah, I don't like I don't know like it's good for a reason people like it for a reason I don't know why
I make fun of people like that. I'm also from New Jersey in case anybody wants to take other jabs, just random jabs about things, everybody loves to dunk on. But I mean the ice cream, I like
I think my ice cream I keep is simple. I like just like a simple chocolate or like a strawberry with like the strawberry chunks. But for the pizza is more complicated. I like the chicken and pesto. I do like the barbecue chicken. I like the supreme, like the veggie lovers, the meat lovers.
Those are always really good. So I do like being complicated. I don't like the Chicago deep dish, which is very controversial, but I don't know. I feel like, you know, I tried it and I was open to it. And it was okay, but when I think of like wanting pizza, it's like, that's not what I think of.
some more like eating like pie or eating like you know like you need yeah like a fucking knife like pizza yeah like what's the what are we doing here it's a cow's is like a pie right is like you're eating like a pie it would just which is fine but then I guess you know and then
funny because like flat pizzas we call it like one pie please and it's just I don't know I don't know which is the the better or which is which of them is the pizza right because we're just saying that it's not pizza because of how we eat pizza
I would say, having been to Chicago, the best Chicago pizza you're probably going to have to wait three hours for.
No, hey, but it's still deep. Yeah, it's still deep dish, but if you go to the right place and the right place usually has a crazy line You're gonna have to wait a long time It's cooked to perfection. It is like a pie like a regular pie obviously because you don't have that
really like even consistency of like crispiness throughout because there's just like that so much stuff between chino, the two inches of pizza or three inches of pizza but the ingredients are incredible and the crust is so so good.
I want pizza now guys and I think this has been a very amazing conversation and we also shared about the best food so not only do we talk about digital
blockchains, enterprises, antideas, self-sovereign identity. We also talk about our taste buds and that's very important and that's something which AI can't do at the moment. We can't taste and I think that's a good point to like
the conversation until next week or maybe next month for our you know chilling episodes we will think of another creative way of interaction and people who have said who have won
a loyalty NFT, please send a message to ontology main account. Large nuts, I know you've been used, you know, every time we have a space, you're always present. Thank you so much. Please send a DM to us so we can send you a loyalty NFT.
people who haven't had the chance to like come on stage Mr. Fizz must have send us a message bro you get a loyalty NFT um um Dryson Tiffany and Kim you can also send us a message
Hot Pizza, send us a message. And I think I've kind of like covered all 10 NFTs. Thank you so much family for joining us. It's been really, really great. If anyone else has got their final words, it's goodbye from Polaris, checking out.
Sorry, please. The ontology account, the DM is locked through. I don't know how we can send our wallet address.
someone in the comments to this tweet with the discord account just go to the discord and ping Polaris he seems to be the most familiar with how to distribute these loyalty NFTs so just go to the comments there's a discord I'm gonna
put it up here just for a moment as we're about to close the space, but you'll see a pin at the top of the space. Click on that, join the Discord, pink lyros or no digity, they're both there always, and then we can get these sent to you.
Okay, thank you very much.
Of course. Okay. I have forward to seeing you all in the discord. Thanks a bunch everybody.
See you guys.