Like this is like I was looking through the music and I can see in the feature like is so if Elon is like taking over to it, you know, obviously it's his company now, but like
I can see like Twitter spaces and like the music section of Twitter spaces to be, you know, this can definitely be worked on. We should probably drop a note for Elon to get on that. Yeah, it should be like cooler music. They only have like four options, I think, right?
Yeah, just a couple options and that's cool, but like I can definitely see because like the way that I see it is that like Twitter spaces thus far and like we haven't started the our Twitter space is just yet just letting you guys know we're still waiting for people
to filter in. But besides that, Twitter spaces from what I've gathered, it's pretty incredible the fact that you can do live broadcast and a live setting. In terms of, because James O'Keefe is like, "France is really big on this
centralized journalism. And if you have the Twitter space component to it, then the news, the way that we perceive and digest news becomes something completely different. It's really an interesting time to be in the middle of all of that stuff.
Yeah, we're in a pretty awesome time where a lot of things are shifting. So I think we should bring us to Prima Kong up here. Can we invite them up? Oh yeah, you have to host us. Sorry.
Yeah, so I just dropped it invite to speak for Supreme Kong. So Supreme Kong's like, let us know if you can get that because I think there we go. How's it going? Can you hear us? I can hear you guys. How you guys doing?
doing well. Happy Wednesday. Or wait, it's Thursday. Happy Thursday. Happy Thursday. Thank you so much for joining us.
Yeah, absolutely. I'm about to actually run into a store super fast, but I'll be Mike Ready in five. But I do want to get positioned up here. If you do want to lob some co-hosts out, definitely happy to also help with that. But I appreciate you.
Sweet, I love it. That sounds awesome. All right, guys.
Should we get started? Because I'm going to go into the news, a little bit of some news clippings that I've gathered from the crypto news cycle that we've had since the beginning of March. Just a couple of ends and stuff. So Supreme Kongs will be ready by the time that--
We get into the NFT process of this but for now like I wanted to get into the new cycle so one of the things that I wanted to point out the obvious one is the fact that on Twitter on our Twitter spaces if you guys notice the logo it has changed from the Twitter bird to the doge coin I thought that was really interesting. What do you guys think about that?
I wonder if there's going to be some kind of dogecoin component to Twitter spaces because he's mentioned in the past that like there's got to be some kind of revenue generating structure to Twitter and some kind of capacity and I you know and he's obviously like a huge proponent of dogecoin, you know, any opportunity that
he can, like he'll tweet about Dogecoin and what have you. So the fact that the new mascot, the perceived new mascot of Twitter is now the cute doggo. I thought that was really interesting. So I kind of wonder if there's going to be some kind of like crypto Dogecoin component to Twitter and the not-too-distant future.
Do you guys have any theories about that? What I'm most curious about is what the audience thinks. If they think the Sibu Nui should be the new mascot or we can customize our own profile take as a new mascot. You guys should put it in the comment section below and let us know what you think.
That is pretty interesting. Yeah, let's get some suggestions and comments from the audience too, because I would love to hear the theories. Sorry, go on Tommy, I think I just got yours. What's funny is actually I was quite active in a Dogecoin community
back in 2014. So like shortly after Dogecoin launched, Dogecoin actually was used to measure things on like Reddit metrics because everyone used to be on Reddit way back in the day. That's where all the activity was. Now it's on Twitter. But yeah, Dogecoin actually had as many and actually in
up the technology. So the technology behind Dogecoin is pretty much the same as Bitcoin. I mean, there's some slight differences, but from taking a step back and comparing diversity to them, it's very similar to Bitcoin. But yeah, they never wanted to evolve. And so I had a lot of Dogecoin.
But I exited my position in 2017, but then I heard Elon Musk has 30% of all dogecoin. I heard that and I would not surprise me. But it's just funny to see it still kind of have clout. Mainly because of Elon Musk, I'd say.
And I know that Madam Band just joined us too, by the way, as Speaker. It's going on. Madam Band, do you have any thoughts on the whole Elon Dogecoin on Twitter? Hey, yeah. Thank you for having me up. I just thought, I think Elon's going to start the next bull run, to be honest.
I think he'll promote Bitcoin. He'll say that now that it's cleaner Bitcoin's going to be used. I think he's going to start to integrate crypto payments into Twitter. I think that's really going to set off the next boom in my opinion.
Yeah, I mean he does have that experience with PayPal so that wouldn't be a surprise if there's going to be that cryptocurrency component to Twitter. That's actually really fascinating. I also, and if you plug it into the fact that a lot of profiles that have a lot of followers, there's a feature on there where you can tip them to
as well. I wouldn't be surprised if Dogecoin would be used in this instance to allow some kind of tipping. I was just thinking back to like my early days of getting into crypto was through Robinhood. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people, like the easy access of like Robinhood apps and, you know, stocks and then having the crypto component. Dogecoin, I had a lot of
Dogecoin in Robinhood and that was my first lesson of, you know, if you don't own it in your cold wallet then technically it's not your, it's aesthetically not your bag to be honest. That was a harsh lesson but like I'm glad that like Dogecoin was like my first entry into the world of cryptocurrency.
I really wanted to point out I saw one of the audience members con Saladina, the dragon DJ you have on your profile thick is so sick. I love the front image of the perspective of how it looks.
Like sick. So I just wanted to point that out, but sorry, I'm so super happy to see everyone in the audience from Dragon Dejans to awesome Supreme Kong. And also we have a kid called Beast in here. So love to see all of that.
Sorry pal, let's go ahead. No, no, I didn't even notice until like I'm scrolling through right now and like the the it's an eclectic mix of NFT collections in in the space too as well guys. Thank you so much for joining us too, by the way. The second thing that I wanted to
The second news item that I wanted to pull from is the fact that I didn't know this and maybe it was something that was just released out into the news cycle. But the fact that like Apple has included a Bitcoin white paper in every version of Mac since 2018.
Holy cow, I had no idea that I wonder what the backstory on that is. Does anybody have any theories on that? That's a pretty interesting little tidbit there. Apple having the Bitcoin white paper included in every version of Mac.
Definitely sounds like something an engineer kind of maybe not snuck in there, but they needed a sample document for something like if you look at the file name, it's named sample doc, so they need
You did a sample document for something and an engineer was like, "Well, this is freely available. There's not going to be any copyright issue or anything like that." What a great sample document to choose.
Yeah, so basically if you're running, so if you have a Mac and it's, if you're running Mac OS 10.14 or later, you should be able to immediately open it in the previous section of your Mac book. I have a 2015 version. I should probably update my Mac so I'm now that I'm thinking about it, but I just thought that was so cool and so interesting.
Yeah, the last news item and I'm not so sure of like the story behind this and maybe some of you guys can enlighten me on the subject. I used to follow Kobe on Twitter at a certain point and I know that his Twitter is locked right now and there was some kind of controversy of some kind of hash that was
that he tweeted out and apparently there was some kind of like inner pole rumor about CZ of Binance, the CEO of Binance, was there was some kind of like, I'm not exactly sure what's going on. Do you guys have any backstory on that? Because it was just something that peaked my eye as I was scrolling through Twitter, but I don't know too much about it.
I told him that question, but I just got back so I'm ready to go. Oh, no, no, I was scrolling through Twitter and I was you know, because I'm aware of Kobe. So before the guys that don't, some of you guys that may not know Kobe is a big like crypto influencer on Twitter. So his
Our name is Jordan Fish, aka Koby. Apparently he had leaked a tweet out some kind of hash that insinuated that the CEO of Binance, CZ, was wanted by Interpol. As of now, Koby's
know, Kobe's Twitter is locked. So, you know, even if you want to go look into it, like, you can't really get the whole kind of backstory. I know that it was a big ruckus a couple days ago on Twitter, but I didn't really know too much about it. So I was just kind of like, huh, that's interesting. Is there any truth to that?
Apparently it's just a rumor though. Sorry. I don't know man. Half the people at the top are wanted by somebody. I'm just putting it out there. You know, so yeah, is it true? Nobody knows. Could it be? We're gonna have to fuck around and find out.
True words have never been spoken. Yeah, I mean, like we're all going to find out eventually right because like they're all like all like the big you know like CZ FTX like we're all kind of side-eying them these days because of what's happened, what's occurred in the space and
the last one to two years. So it's interesting times indeed. I think that 2023 is going to be one of those years where there's going to be more like surprising elements that develop. But we're definitely in the wait and see process of that. That's for sure.
I think also CZ is pretty much top of the tree when it comes to integration and crypto and he works so hard, but there's a lot of people that's out to get him, so I think there's a lot of witch hunts as well, so it's something to be careful of, I think as well.
Yeah, it's definitely like a lot of points to consider too because once you start going after like the big guys in crypto, that could really do a huge detriment in the space as it already has with the sand, bacon, free, like obviously the whole FTX debacle. Um, well, they deserve that though.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I totally agree with you on that and it's important. I rather have the sorry to call you off. I didn't mean to do that, but I rather have anyone corrupted the top crash and burn and get put to the cross and and
And us restart from a more transparency ethical level in compliance with regulators than this Wild West, you know creating fake tokens, pumping up net words, you know, like all the corruption
that you're seeing banks collapsing left and right, exchanges closing, everyone losing their all their money is because no one is auditing and checking all these MFs. And is it bad for the space short term? Sure. Long term, it propels us towards where we want to be.
Yeah, you got to weed out the bad actors in this space regardless of how big they are. And that's something that like I always keep in mind like in the back of my head is like you know what the good guys like they may you know good guys finish last but doing things the right way having some kind of like principles honesty morality those things are super crucial in the space and it's so
desperately needed. Yes, it's like short-term that you get all these bad apples at the very top that are just weeded out. But in the long term, it's so, so good for the community and the ecosystem at large by far. So yeah, if we have to go through the pain points, then so be it. We're going to be stronger in the future. 100%.
But um, yeah, Tommy. Did you have anything dad? Yeah, I was just gonna say that was really powerfully said So just wanted to acknowledge that man that is so true, you know, I mean you could actually take that same concept and apply it to
Just the world as a whole right the leaders we have for anything and Yeah, you have to have the right foundations. I'm actually seeing that a lot in other ways recently that you know the right the right foundations have to be there you can build a skyscraper
on shifting sands. By the way, can you guys hear me because I got like a call of interpretive? Lot and clear, baby. Yeah, yeah, like the right foundations are absolutely critical for anything for doing anything. You want to build a skyscraper you got to have the right
foundation. So I agree with that. And that's the same. It really struck home for me because that's what, you know, me, Ryan, Palace and our team, what we've been doing for years, you know, like, you know, it's crazy to me actually, you know, I
I actually had a million dollars stolen from me in 2017 and the HACC resented two Binance. And you could be quite honest, Binance could have been more helpful in that situation. I ended up getting a little bit of a back, but the bulk of it got away because they didn't really want to be helpful.
I have to be honest about that. That was like the worst timing for me. That was Christmas Day 2017. It was like writing the peak of the bubble and I should have really been paying attention to exiting out of my position.
But I was distracted by this theft is a million dollars and I had a million dollars stolen from me before so I was like I got to take this really seriously and work with you know I Worked the secret service and all this who on and I never got my money back by the way The the
They got a couple people in prison and I never got my money back. I'm just sharing this with you guys because this is the justice system. I've actually seen in more ways recently, in other ways, that the justice system
Even in the real world like I have so I invested in like 50 ICOs you guys in 2017 and As you guys know so many of those were scams as we're discussing So sometimes we'll do that with NFTs now they make an NFT and they take the money and run and they're gone. They're anonymously disappeared
And then they do it again with another NFT project and we do it like 10 times over there's people doing that right now and NFTs Which you know it's like my mind is tired to uncover those people But you know at being being all these ICOs I invest in guys a lot of them were scams and these were the hard ones
to get into. I was able to get into it because I was actively YouTube-ing as a crypto YouTuber at the time, which I've shifted my focus to building for the past few years. But yeah, all those projects. So only a couple of them are based in the US, and you wouldn't believe, like, one of them, I got the judge.
That I gave SPF the bail the bail out, you know who I don't know if you guys heard what happened to SPF but the first judge you got gave him a bail like you shouldn't have got a bail You know they gave him a bail and then there was such outrage and then they ended up like are
switching the judge, but he already had the bail. So I got that first judge that Sam Bingham freed had, like yeah that case is going nowhere. And the other guy judges like something similar on the other post like the scammers are all based in the US, you know,
They did their corporation through the Cook Islands. And so my lawyer argued, like, "Hey, this is all in the US, all the... everyone's in the US. This should be handled in the US." And the judge was like, "No, I gotta go to the Cook Islands." And there was some law professor watching the case.
and he was like writing a blog on it. He's like a university professor. It's a university and he's just like blown away at how this judge behaves. So I'm just telling this to you guys because this is governance in the real world and then governance in crypto is even worse. There's no protection.
That's actually what the forefront of what our organization has done is building decentralized governance on Ethereum. We have actually pretty much stopped crime. I can't say all crime, but compared to what's going on on every other blockchain, we have done that better than anyone in the world, and I'm super proud of that.
I just want it to because we just pulled up another speaker up on here that I think I wanted to add some more input to what you were talking about here, Tommy. The period you just got up to speak. Do you have any thoughts on that? Absolutely not. I really don't. I don't know on any thoughts on what he said at all. I was doing the like who emojis his eyes?
I love those. I was just going to share my own life stories. Last night I was talking to Draco. Ooh, crank that NFT. And I'm doing his second release. So it's going to be in good hands with the art that it's going to come out really dope.
Um, at least as you know, a second one. And I'm really excited. I'm excited for M.O.C. next week. I'm excited for the communities in here and the people in here and that we all basically really support one another and love one another and that that's beautiful to see for real. Oh, I appreciate you, man. And how
a bit time at NFT NYC too by the way that's gonna be that is going to be like yeah let's like if you have amazing you gonna be there no no I have some other things to do with the next coming weeks and stuff but yeah definitely have a great time I'm going I'm showing to I mean I'm a meatner with soldier boy just so if y'all don't understand drako this name soldier or soldier boy go
about a name drago like if you know I'm not like goes by name drago and me not with him and a few other people in shit and it should be really fun a lot of fun and I'm so excited it's a bummer you're not gonna be there though like it'd be dope yeah so yeah boy did something dope then he released a 3d collection yeah yeah and so like
last night, me and him were talking or whatever and I'm going to do his artwork for his second release. Yeah, thank you. Oh, that's so great. Oh, how the best time, by the way, how the best time. I mean, we're also, I don't know if you checked that art page, but we're also doing 3D 3D's a new meta, but we've been doing it for like almost two years.
Yeah, check it out. He was interested in some 3d like that what he's trying to do right now for his second one is like more tune base like and like I felt the vibe since he said that I was like he's looking at my page. He's looking at my page You know and but he still isn't a 3d art. I do 3d art as well
but like definitely would need some help to do something on that level with him because like he meant it out in like two hours or something saying like do made like a million dollars in a day but he is the innovator. No he didn't. He made $9,560. No you're not counting the creator fees. No no no.
So you're missing out so it meant it out and everybody starts selling their NFTs for X amount of price right he still gets a crater fee for that so Yeah, it wasn't just not yeah, well okay 80 Ethan volume times that by the percent maybe he made 15 20 grand but okay, well 20 grand
One day I'm sorry I was overexaggerated with the million so let's say 20 grand a one day that is substantial that is amazing for anybody to do 20 grand and their first release to first met ever and One day and it just shows He's
I feel really bad doing this but he's been in this space since 2021. This is like his eighth NFC project and he back like 15 coins that went to zero in 21 and 22 so I don't know if you know I love his music but if on a space you're gonna say things that aren't true I just
I thought it was his first one so don't give me wrong so you're correcting me on something I did not know so but but neither there right like neither here there I am going to make sure that the art going forward right that he's paying me for is dopast fuck because that's
what I like to do is art. So, you know, if the art maybe wasn't as that great in the past and stuff, it's like just best believe this second release is gonna be ill. It's gonna, like, I've been working on it today and like, I really take a lot of crap
attitude and passion when someone is willing to pay me for my time right they're paying me for my time to create art I pour my heart out into it and I don't care who my client is if it's so your boy or somebody that's not a known artist or whatever I pour my heart out into it so the second release is gonna be a dope ass collage of some really cool
pictures is going to be unique. That sounds so awesome. Yeah. Best of luck to you by the way on that next chapter for sure. Thank you. Thank you. I wanted to pass this on over to our next speaker that just got up to speak. I think the name is Crypto Will erupt. Do you have any thoughts on this or anything that was talked about previously? I'm not ready.
I think the only source I've got from that is it's great when communities work together. I think that's what Supreme Kongs is all about. I got the invite from Cyrus in there at Discord and that's what I'm up here. But I think over the next year or so the projects that will succeed are the good projects that work together and continue to grow.
Super well said by the way and I think that's actually like the perfect segue into our next section of this Twitter space talking about our NFT projects. So let's talk about Dragon Dejans and Supreme Kongs. I wanted to discuss a little bit about the Dragon Dejans process here or the Dragon Dejans collection that we have.
Tommy, did you want to speak upon that? Because I wanted to ask you guys what inspired you guys to create this collection? Sure, I'll just give a quick background. So we, I kind of deejined the NFT space in fall 2021, but a lot of people came in and it originally, you know, and I'm from like the, the old
The OG crypto space on which is the royalty system being a revenue generating system is massive like speaking of dogecoin You know what what it made dogecoin or ridiculously powerful if dogecoin had royalties I wonder if they'll do an NFT one day That would be insane because that's actually one of the biggest issues with dogecoin. There's no revenue system, you know
So, but if they were an NFT, they'd have millions and millions of dollars of revenue and could do all sorts of cool stuff. You know, like they even even back then they did the Jamaican Bob said to you and like they raised $50,000 as from donations from the community to do that. They were trying to do cool stuff. This was like really early in the history of Dogecoin, like the first you
months their existence. But anyway, so to drag in DGen, so you've got an NFT space and I was like, you know, and if you guys haven't seen a movie called Ready Player One, everyone should watch that movie because it's an awesome movie and it's kind of about the metaverse, so it kind of gives you some visions of what's to come in the metaverse.
but I was watching that movie and I was like man what would I be in the metaverse and the answer is like this badass dragon huminoid you know who just you know just looks like someone you know on a fuck with you know with like a big ass weapon on his back there's something like that and that was kind of the that was kind of the
is something that would be cool to be as a metaverse character, I'd be like, so that's how I created, or started creating Dragon DGNs and the team joined in and we have a good number of people working on it and even Ryan who, Ryan's like an extremely strong intact across the board.
and plugging him into DragonBGens, he helps like the randomizations of our traits is like super advanced rank, it speaks more to that, but it's really one of the kind of most advanced NFT projects made in terms of what's gone into both the randomization
process and how much work that's done into this. We've put we've been building this since December 2021. This is when I when I actually started building it and what are we now like April 2023? So a year and a couple months we've been putting nonstop work in the building these and that's why
That's why you see so much attention to detail. You can see my profile picture is one of these dragons. I change them periodically, just the cool ones I find. We paid a ton of attention to detail. They're not going to be perfect. Nothing's perfect. But even the weapon straps.
were going to have the same kind of weapon straps. But now I was like, oh, we should have different, even different weapon straps. So we have even different versions of weapon straps. And for the weapons, like just gone into a ton of detail here. So I mean, or good, whoever's speaking. Yeah, sure. Oh, shit. Sorry. Really quick. Yeah, really quick.
though before we get into it. I just want to let people know if you guys have a question, drop it in the comments section and we will answer them at the end. But Supreme Cons, go on, go ahead, sorry for, for cutting in there. No, I think our minds are so insane that like we're hyper-tyled in right now. But I was just going to ask Tommy, like what's your position in that company? I was
and dragon degen. Are you the owner? Are you on the team? What's up?
Yeah, I'm like the creator behind the whole ecosystem I guess. So yeah, to give a little background. By the way, can you guys hear me cut out for sex? I want to make sure. No, no, no, I can hear you. So give a quick background. So again, I've been actually a number of us have been in crypto for a while.
like I've been in crypto since 2012 Ryan's actually been in crypto since 2011 but we met in 2017 I was doing YouTube videos and it was the 4th of July and I just had this inspiration and like I need to make a blockchain like no one else is going to make and I couldn't really explain it I saw it as a blockchain to kind
to help liberate humanity. And that turned out to be true because we are at the forefront of decentralized governance. So you guys, some of our contracts were a huge quantum leap in crypto. And I saw that whole thing coming and I had bets and other pots besides Ethereum, which I bet in the Ethereum ICO. But that was a big
Then we did a ton of dev building our block training system and then we're like, and then we built the great security and we're like, all right, so now we need a great application for the security and NFTs will be like perfect. So we're actually building an NFT marketplace, which our marketplace is focused on protecting royalties.
we can do because we have decentralized governance and also protecting users. So we've been building that marketplace and then we're like, all right, and we also want to have our brand ambassadors, our NFT to represent us and that's where Dragon Degens were like, all right, we want to make brand ambassadors, these are going to be the Dragon Degens. And so we put just as much care into
The Dragon D Gen is, you know, as everything else we do. And that's why we have kind of a more advanced product, I guess, than most people with NFTs. But there's a whole organization behind it. It's not just, you know, some random, you know, anonymous person, you know. I think that's pretty cool.
Yeah. Supreme cons. You got your hand raised. Yeah, even as a co-host for the culture. But for your marketplace that you're making, how are you going to incentivize a user to list on your exchange versus going to blur or OS
for zero. And before you answer, yes, anyone can say first 30 days, whatever lists, you get, you know, raffle it off for an eith or a rare token or this and that, but, you know, how do you keep that continued like, you know, loyalty to your own exchange versus
0% and more profits. Totally. That is a great question. So I think this, um, some degree it's a philosophical thing of, all right, we stand by royalties like this is how we do things. If no one else is going to do things right, we don't care. We're going to do things right. That means royalties. I don't care if we're getting less revenue. You know, I know we're not being as#
and open-sea charging 0% or 0.5%. But the point of it is, think of it this way. We know users have been getting scammed in crypto for years, but one thing I didn't see until six months ago is I didn't see business as getting scammed. That's what's happening today. You see the collections are actually businesses and those businesses bring
all their users with them. So if any of those collections, flash businesses say, hey, you know, I'm not okay with you guys stealing my royalties. I'm going to upgrade my contract. I'm going to migrate my contract. I'm going to put an operator filter and block everyone who's not paying royalties. That's how shift changes. That's how things change. And that's what we're going to
That's what we're doing. But we're doing that within the NFT space, like people already in the NFT space. But truly the big opportunity is not that people already in the NFT space. It's the 99% of people who aren't in the NFT space. So the real big go-to-market strategy is to go to all these big brands and influencers, say YouTubers,
or TikTokers, got millions of followers and being like, "Hey, you should do an NFT because an NFT is one of the best revenue generating products you have. It's a membership, an NFT to its core is a membership card to a community. That's what an NFT is in Assassin's. It's current form. So it's like basically
Having these big uterus big brands be like hey, let's get a membership card for your community You need to provide regular content for it that are you know regular perks for the for the holders But you get the royalties and those royalties are powerful. That's that's how board apes went from being worth nothing to four billion dollars in 11 months. It's because they had a hundred million dollars
of royalties put a 40x multiplier on it for a billion dollars. So the power is in the royalties. And that's how we... Tom, I have a question. Question for you to follow up because you did such a great answer on the first one. Again, emphasizing even harder that you still can't really force a whole other to go through you.
only try to incentivize them, motivate them, appeal to their inner support us so we can keep developing for you. But even then, you'll get maybe 10, 15, 20%. I don't want to -- I'm just being conservative here. What's your stance on redeploying your Genesis contract versus spending the money
to create your own market place which you then cannot control a user selling versus if you redeploy you would then as long as that user is using that exchange, right? Like you would have guaranteed royalties on every transaction. Ryan may answer this better.
in me, but just to make sure I see it correctly. So my understanding is, as long as the original contract is there, that other people can get away with trading it, and that's the problem. So redeploying the contract allows you to put that operator filter in place to block marketplaces, as far as building
your own marketplace, I don't think that's going to happen. Just tell you, as someone who's been building a marketplace, we've been building our marketplace in September 2021, so we've been building it for like a year and a half. And it's almost complete. Our marketplace, we have like the best features of blur, batch listing, batch buying, we're having a big liquidity incentive
having a cleaner experience kind of like open sea. That's the essence of a marketplace. But so anyway, I don't think building a marketplace is, I mean, it's not an easy endeavor. I think I'd have a service. I might think, oh, just build a marketplace. But a lot that goes into it. But let me pivot to Ryan. Ryan speaks really well of this stuff.
Yeah, and it's a good question. These are, you know, this whole royalties thing is probably the biggest open question in the NFT space there is at the moment, right? And we've got a bunch of projects that are wondering how they're going to generate revenue, how the project's going to survive, because their whole business model was just upended.
by the decisions of Blair and OpenC. Remains to see how the industry will play out, but I can say from our side, redeploying a contract is something that we're actually looking at helping some collections do, even, because as Tommy mentioned,
We do stand by this stance that we should be paying royalties. So there are collections out there that we can help with that. I mean, the plague is that it, I think the plague is the latest, largest volume
collection to redeploy. If you go look at there, I don't know if the redeployment's happened yet, but they put up like an updated metadata image and said on this date redeployment will happen and this NFT will be worth zero. Don't buy anything until we redeploy. And I thought that was amazing.
while they're top 100 on OpenC, you would go and see that on their OpenC. So people are redeploying because the way they figure it is like, "Alright, well, we've already gone two months without royalties." Well, from my ecosystem, that could be a 20 to 30K range, right, or more. That's a lot of things.
So at some point as a project, you're going to have to decide to make that, you know, because if you don't, next thing you know, another year goes by. Yep. Yeah, it's like an existential problem for a lot of projects really.
And to some degree, depending on how well you prepare for change in the beginning, can set you up for success in this. Contracts that are upgradable might have a lot easier time with this than the contracts that kind of set in stone.
And this just really kind of brings home the point about about energy about governance like we see NFTs, you know some NFT communities have their own governance on the energy blockchain. We have an implementation of it that's governance wide, but the point is is that you know for a while there was this trend in NFTs.
that like, oh, we should make everything immutable. I think it started by some guy who like rugged his collection or something and just like deleted all the images or whatever. So, you know, even OpenSee has this freeze the metadata thing. But honestly, in my opinion, we got to move away from that.
that mindset because the solution to, I don't want to get rubbed, isn't we need to write stuff in stone so that it's hard to fix problems later on. The solution is we need good governance so that we can fix problems later on. So if you're building a contract now, that's what I would really urge, think about governance.
think about how you can upgrade that contract, think about how the future is going to look. This whole, let's write it in stone narrative, in my opinion, it's over, I think the future is governance. That kind of stuff, projects that built with governance and with upgradability.
are going to have a bit of an easier time projects that haven't and have to go through some kind of redeployment. They might have to do something like, yeah, stop trading on this day. This project is going to be worthless and you're just kind of relying on the community to hopefully get that message and like, you know, it's going to be a little bit messy.
Yeah, I mean I'll end it with this right people like Frank bridging over from being the top products on Salona To Ethereum and and polygon and you know, it really kind of inspires you in these moments to take that chance
to take that faith to be on the front edge of technology and and and really be future focused and thinking ahead of time. So Ryan, yeah, it was great picking your brain. I want to love the mic back to gonna make it. Yeah, I actually had a question for you, Supreme Kong. I actually have a lot of questions.
in that vein, how do you plan to scale your project? And also, 'cause I'm looking through the great images in your collection, what inspired you guys to create this collection? All of these cons look sick. What are your plans to scale the project?
Yeah, that's a great question. So my name is Cyrus, Cyrus Abraham. You know, I'm now the owner and new founder of the project, but I didn't create the Genesis collection in February of 2022. I actually maxed many of this motherfucker, you know, to the language like, I maxed many of
and then became a community manager two weeks later and then a month later I was the owner of the project. So it was kind of crazy to be honest. And now in a couple of days it's like my one year anniversary as a founder of the project and we started out
you know, one collection, we have four, they're all doing great, they're all connected, you know, we have our own tech, and you know, we really focused on building our staking out. It's not like a simple staking, like in terms of coding it, like it took some time, it's layered, but front facing, it's smooth,
It's nice there's a gamification, you know, there's a lot going on and We really focus on tech but also our community and product structure So our core team consists of holders, you know, so I looked around like who are the best what this is like going back a year ago like who are the best holders in this jungle, you know, and then boom
you're on the team, right? And then about six months later, we decided to, excuse me, decentralized how decisions are made in the project and have more people influencing trajectory, right? Like how do you empower the individual to have like true stake? And what
going outside of just holding the asset in their wallets. So we build councils, there's seven of them, and all seven councils have up to five holders on them. And then basically what goes on is every week we talk on calls with the core team, we're playing stuff out, you know, we disseminate information, and you know, they wrap
We present also the will of our wider holders in our world wide. And so that's what's really cool is like instead of being in team of five people, we're about a team of 40 right now. You know, all holder ran all running the project. There's no moderators and there's no community managers, right, which is ironic because that was CM.
But the way that I perceive the space moving is through a form of governance, through a form of decentralizing the processes, by keeping it efficient. But also, how do you build your project to last longer than you? Like if I were to die in a year from now, God forbid. What happens to my people, my project, the brand?
I would need to make sure that the system and architectures in place where the holders know exactly what to do. They know how to run it. They know how to implement it. There's all these other things going on. So different form of organization than you see in most projects. And where do you scale from here? Was your second question?
But yeah, now that like you've given me that backstory too, I also have other questions for you, but like yeah go on like how do you scale you know What are you plan to do with like scaling the project? Yeah, so what we're gonna start doing is Licensing out our technology
So like thankfully, you know, we've built a lot of custom code, you know, you can't just copy paste this, you know, it takes time, it takes a lot of time, a lot of revisions. And a lot of parts that did have been like, hey, can we also have our own token jungle, which is database token is on year C20, but I'll tie that in soon.
Projects are like, can we get your staking but white labeled for us? Can we get your marketplace white labeled for us? Like, can we, you know, do any of the things that you guys are doing? We've always said no because we're like, it gives us the upper edge and we didn't want to really give that coat away. Then they took our roll to the way.
Right, and then we're like well, how do we really you know make sure like Thankfully we have mint proceeds like we're good For a long time, but the way that we look at it is that we want the business to build us on revenue right to be worth more to to attract more top mind so You know starting soon. I do
We're going to start licensing on that tech, products are going to be able to start paying to get everything white labeled. If they need our dev team to cost them things that's going to cost, it goes straight back to our project, otherwise when our core team implements new futures,
they're paying a member of what we're building, then we can either roll it out to them at no cost to them or they can choose to keep it disabled. So they also get to keep growing as our team keep building out the tech. So some really crazy, crazy, crazy things that we're cooking up and that's how we're going to scale, be to be at least
Okay, so I'm assuming in this process and that was like thank you so much for that for that backstory and that information too because now I want to ask you like what are the challenges that you faced like thus far?
with like leading up into this point because I can imagine with the innovation that's coming on with this collection on your end, there's gotta be some challenges. Like, what are they? Like, what are the hurdles that you've had to face with this?
A lot of hurdles to be honest as it's been about a year. But you know, everything I would say like trust internally and externally. So like when you first take over a rug project, the entire external Twitter is already written and you offer dead.
And then you have to resurrect the inside and build that you know connection build that trust You know build a sentiment back up and then once you're so dominant that people can't ignore you They see you through progress and action and the water tourist space, you know throws you love starts a doctor
you and then you've officially un-rugged your project in my eyes. Your bubble mint prices, volumes are good. Green checks across the board. That's kind of my thought process to how we got here and what you got to do.
I have to agree with that. Like your sentiments on trust, trust is such a big issue, not just like an NFTs, but just like crypto in general. And if something it's hard to gain that back with any kind of project that's had like a rug in the past and you have to build the trust back, you know, and
That's why I always say, like the projects, it doesn't matter if it's DeFi projects or cryptocurrency projects or even just NFTs. If you do things right, that is the way forward. That's the way to go. Have your principles, have your ethics in place and the rest will follow. The community will
follow to as well. I wanted to shift this back to Dragon Dejans because the artwork that we've seen thus far is pretty incredible. I think it's pretty badass, like the dragons themselves. What makes the artwork different from the current projects?
I'll jump in on this one a bit. We were talking about 3D earlier and 3D art is just difficult for a number of reasons. But now, if you picture the way that 2D art fits together on an NFT,
layers kind of stack on top of each other and they fit together, you know, in two dimensions. But to fit together in three dimensions just adds a whole other layer of complexity to everything. And what we've done here with this collection is something really remarkable. I think we have
We have 1,900 approximately 1,900 individual pieces that fit together, which is a huge number of renders, just astronomical number of renders. The number of possibilities for this collection is really insane.
So that results in like all these dragons each one looks super unique. But in order to make that work, not only do we have to do that, we had to build some customer and the miser technology so that these pieces fit together in the right way because like not everything is going to work with everything else. Like once you put, you know, a certain
shirt on one of these dragons that the sling holds a weapon may not fit, you know, every shirt exactly the same because some of the shirts are different. So the randomizer technology had to accommodate this as well. So to be able to, you know, randomize and generate
these dragons out of such a huge array of pieces and then have all this logic about like what fits with what really results in just some incredible looking art like when we were doing some test generation batches and man all these dragons just look amazing.
I wanted to, because I know that we just pulled up again, crypto will erupt. Did you have any additional feedback or comments on what we were talking about previously?
I just wanted to say with regards to what Cyrus was saying with regards to Supreme Commons in particular. I'm a pretty big holder in that community and the only reason I'm a big holder in that community is because of Cyrus Titan and a few of the other legends in there. What they say they do, they actually
do, which means a lot in this space, with the most recent mint of SK2 successfully minting out as well, and the amount of NFTs that they gave away to the community in that, it shows me that they're people that you can actually trust, to celebrate that fact, I just swept another
SK2 which puts me on 204 SK2s. The price isn't going to stay low for this long. I say you've got a couple of weeks maximum before we start going to the moon with that project and that's across all tokens so get behind them now.
I love that with that being said though for supreme cons how many one of ones are there in your collection? Yeah great great question and there's 10 in the genesis and 10 in supreme cons too.
And then for dragon deagens, how many one of ones are there in the collection?
from what I've seen thus far, like both collections, like they both look sick. Like they both look like they both look so so good. Like it's just like, oh my gosh, it's goosebumps. Like yeah. I mean, just look at the comments. I love the comments. There's a ton of drag advantage and a ton of supreme colleagues
being wrapped, the communities are insane. It's so awesome to see that the activation and engagement from everyone in the comments section. So yeah, keep that up guys. It's awesome to see. Also, I wanted to ask a drag in DGINs too, because obviously, people
we're going to ask us, what is the tie between drag and deejans and they're going to make it NFT marketplace? Yeah, because we're sharing some key components here. I think the one key component is the referral tree. Yeah, if you guys want to talk a little bit about that, I think that's pretty much crucial info too.
Yeah, so if you guys don't know how we're releasing these dragons, we're doing a pretty innovative kind of wave releasing them. So we're doing an air drop. We did an air drop for going to make it before where we air dropped. So that was our first air drop. We're going to make it and draw just a pretty good following for it, but we air dropped.
based on OpenC volume and we're going to do that for Dragon Dejans as well. It will be OpenC volume from start of OpenC until October of last year. That's because we're planning on doing another one for the more recent volume. But we're also air dropping it to a bunch of collections.
about 40 collections and I'm actually going to see if I can get you guys on their Supreme Kongs. We're trying to get everything ready to go to get it out the door but that would be awesome to get you guys in there. But everyone, everyone of those collections will get some dragon blood.
It won't be enough to them into dragon right directly, but if you refer someone you get 50% of the dragon blood that they claim. So it's a pretty big kind of referral bonus and then it's like a paid forward system. So like if they refer someone you get 30% of that and if they refer someone
someone to get 15% of that. So it goes several levels deep. So, and then that's that same referral tree as the referral tree for going to make it as well too, which our marketplace is going to be a revenue sharing marketplace where if you refer someone you get basically 20% of the fees
they pay the marketplace. That's why I'm saying Dragon Degen are brain ambassadors of the gonna make it marketplace. These are same referral tree for the distribution for Dragon Degen as for revenue sharing on gonna make it. So yeah, so keep your eye out for
of the air drop it's going to make you know a good amount of noise. We don't have the launch date nailed down completely we're either we're kind of looking at either 420 or May the 4th you know May the 4th you with you so like one of those two days is going to be the launch date just depending how we have everything ready.
And I met a man. I know you have your hand raised. Did you want to comment?
Yeah, I've just got a question for Cyrus if that's okay. Oh, yeah, you're Cyrus. What time is it? It's...concisan out here in La Hona!
I'm so glad that we have that recorded for this Twitter space. You guys should definitely take that clip and then use it however way that you will. It's actually yelled across Twitter spaces. Over the last year, there's actually a conversation challenge that people go on mega spaces and try to beat the
length of it. I think it's like 50 seconds at this point. So with his even videos of people running through castles and cafes and stores and like you know there's um the other day Brady Donovan in the crowd he ripped off his shirt like full-on hauled like ripped it to shreds off his body while yelling Kong season. So it's a thing.
Excuse me sir, this is a Denny's Like you're like in the middle of a Denny's or like in the middle of like Target and they're just a random person like yelling about Kong season. I love that. That's so great. I Wanted to um I wanted to
segue into our next, you know, just to reset the room here and now that we've talked a little bit of our collections and stuff, I wanted to talk about alpha. So now that, you know, we're kind of like getting to like the closing of this Twitter space. So SupremeCon, do you guys have any any alpha, any leaks on future product development?
Yeah, so I mean in the next 30 days, we just expanded our dev team so we just executed was really really amazing like I would say get involved, get active, see the commuter right vibe for you and then after that it's right now you just want to stack on these tokens because the use case is coming at jungle, you're going to need
We're already ahead of the game when it comes to most people trying to do what we do. So if you're not tapped in tap in if you're already tapped in turn up and I mentioned earlier licensing as well and that's going to be huge. When you start seeing a bunch of projects rocking our tech and a bunch of cash flow coming into it's going to make some heads up.
turns. So we're very excited about that. And you know, we just also took over a company called BCIRL based out in Hawaii. They're the top premium physical collectible company right now for the kick called beast. And so it will come from that as well as also going to benefit the jungle. So just a whole lot of alpha.
supreme cons like what you guys are doing with not just with the tech but with the collection itself and then with the community that's how you do it in web 3 like so many communities and so many NFT projects are wondering how do we leverage this like how do we scale up like how do we get some kind of like revenue system or whatever in place
so the community can benefit from it. You guys are literally doing it. So like props to you because it's hard. Like it's such a hard process. Like and you guys know like you guys have been through the challenges and what have you. But yeah, that is how it's done. So if you're listening out there, you're
thinking about setting up an NFT collection, how do we scale up? The playbook is really supreme cons. Check out what they're doing because that's literally how it's done. But I wanted to also ask Tommy and then also drag indisions, what's the alpha weeks that we have for future project development?
Well, I don't know how much we should... I guess we can. When we launch Dragons, we're going to have a competition that goes along with it as well as we're going to be announcing a kind of a sale to Mint or Dragons cheaper.
you get all the dragon blood, but if you hold onto it for a few months you'll be able to mint it cheaper. So I don't know, that's just off the top of my head.
then off marketplace fees. I think we forgot to mention that. Yeah, so yeah, these guys also got 50% off on marketplace fees as well too. So yeah, I could call what's going to be on GMI. So thank you, GMI. That's how we're also interrelated with GMI.
And then I also, 'cause we just pulled up Darius to chat. Hey Darius, did you have any comments? (screams)
What up family how we doing brother doing good man just calling out on the jungle meeting some new friends Welcome, yeah, we're about to wrap it up. Let me give you a call. We'll be representing live in NET and YC but can we hear each other?
I think we can, but I was just going to say like give you a proper intro. You're an absolute legend. You know, like this man has done so much for the Kongs. He's deeply involved. He's one of our top artists as well and community leads and so I just want to introduce him. But Darius, yo, hey, what are we saying?
Oh yeah, just saying we're just coming off a nice long week in FTLA. My I'm in FT week and the cons will be representing hard and heavy out here in FT and why we got the official
concave going down. We might still have a sofa. That's a little bit of alpha. And Kashi, you don't have a place to rest your head. And then why we might have that available. Tap into the jungle. Shish!
You guys heard it here. If you're looking for a couch slide in those, the end is with Darius. Let's go.
Let's go. You know I could always run us out with a song too man if you like.
So before you consider saying no, I just want to say this is the hottest track you'll ever hear today like it's I said today so I can't lose on this bet, but yeah if you can be so kind to indulge him
Let's hear it. I wanna hear it.
Hey yo, you heard it first, this dive in deep. With the Dragon Dejans, we're gonna make it. And Supreme Kongs, we are here. This is Litty Gang with Darius, illitered producer. Shhh!
They don't fuck them now, they know that You know you don't fuck them now, right?
She's feeling that the cinnamon way up with the money to send in there Let it get real quick. What you know about the drug is you feel the hand just in the tie like a silly fan Yeah, off at the top with a cylinder. Yeah, we're gonna be on the boss investing just about it. He does go call shit. I'm a somewhere high that son hit the cross the end get it then they do this. They love money low
I'm like a blockchain, piece of mine is the copat You know the shine that's a low gain, all heat no propane Top off with a headline, ball hard of a foul line Girl starvation grow done, get a rock soft in the boot side O's in the flow with a hit again I'm bomb with the Olympic a million, drop it to cool down
We is in, let it get, let it get, rock in the back, I'll hit it again, I'm on the street and then I'll send a man, I'm aware of what the money is sending in, let it get The darkest we ends up, yeah we know we're getting us, as shots on my AI, that this shit ain't land the, we're sick of for wetland's up, and for what's like gender
Yeah, fuck us on Splinter, got that body of wet, sir Highlights, let it dim some, February, calm, and the air one Boy, life, come and get some, bar, like the Elon Shopping Street for the airtime First class in a recline, top shelf, never-declined, let it get, we're a rewind
I'm not a baby, she's shot by the fanny like waffles spaghetti I said if you ready then you should come get it they lit it the telephone card and come fanny don't hit up the cell at the end got the teddy my baby girl lit it again holes on the floor with the heat again I bomb with the Ella McAmelia drop it the coupe yeah we is then lit it again lit it again racks in the back with the heat again
Darius, oh my god. Where do we even go from there? Do we take questions? Do we end the spaces? I think that deserves a round of applause to everyone. Thank you, Darius, for that. That was awesome. That was fantastic.
Oh, yeah, there's much more coming by the way family. I just shot you a follow dragon gonna make it. You know, you got to follow tapping to the jungle man. We go on crazy out here. We sold out It's literally 420 atos the song is called lit and there's
for 20 man. I got men to shout out to the family that supported me. Available on all marketplaces. We out here. Let's go. All right. Any other questions from the audience before we wrap this up?
That was like a showstopper. That's like a mic drop right there. I don't think there's anywhere else that we go. It was a great space. Thanks for having us. Clongs in, clongs out, and we'll see you in the jungle. Hey, great meeting you guys. We'll catch you then.
Awesome. Sweet, sounds good. Okay, yeah, let's wrap up this Twitter space for here guys. Thank you so much for joining us and you can follow us. Where can they follow you, SupremeCon? They can follow me by hitting this beautiful
face followed his voice and smack that follow hit that bell you're not gonna want to miss it trust and yeah we'll see you outside in dragon deans where can we where can we follow you yeah just click on
on the logo and you just follow us on Twitter and you know you want to follow the journey because you know we're coming to Ethereum blockchain relatively or really soon here so don't miss the journey.
I love it. I love it. Okay guys, let's wrap it up here. We will catch you in the jungle and elsewhere. Take care.