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Lyndon Johnson held meetings on the toilet.
How long is he in there, brother?
He's holding meetings, plural?
It was like a thing that he did on a regular basis.
He had the door open from his toilet while he was taking a dump.
Okay, I've got my – what do I have today?
Oh, today, sir, at 5, you've got your 5 o'clock toilet and meeting with the Chinese president.
Yeah, so I started a little bit on – I don't know if you caught that.
I started talking a little bit about the Shark Tank DAO.
We can talk a little bit about that because it's the next big thing that will be happening, actually, on the chain.
That should spur some interest and volume as well.
First, it will be the first competition, let's say, and investment from the DAO.
And don't forget that you are the DAO, guys.
Every VEDC holder is a member of the DAO.
So, these – you will be able to vote on these projects and who will be able to win the big prize and help from the DAO and an investment.
So, to get started, considering that it's like meme coin season and everybody is going crazy about memes and since the market is so flat, everything is not moving.
As soon as Bitcoin hits an expected target, shorts are just waiting behind the corner.
So, we're flatlining – the market is pretty much flatlining in interest and in volume.
But meme coins are doing great.
Everybody is going crazy about them.
They're interesting to trade on because you don't have to trade on leverage to get high gains.
Some of them can make like 1,000 next.
And, yeah, it's pretty great.
They have become like a collection item for a lot of people in the space but also a speculative item as well.
So, the thing is, what we're going to do – I don't know how familiar you guys are with the previous competition that we held for the projects on the chain, which was the Battle of the Grants.
We had multiple projects compete for engagement on Twitter to get the most likes, the most retweets, the most comments.
And it went in a few rounds and after a while, the winners got – some of them got a small grant, some of them got a more substantial grant, which helped them, you know, continue building on the chain, improving their infrastructure, improving their marketing, etc.
So, this time around, this will be more focused on meme coins.
So, we're still debating on the format.
We don't have it 100% dialed in.
But the format would be somewhere between having anybody being able to apply with their meme coin.
The community can vote for them by liking them, by retweeting, etc.
And once we have met a certain threshold and after the deadline, we can count the entries and go into a second round, etc.
Until we get like three final winners that will go into the DAO.
And once in the DAO, that's where you will be deciding who will be the grand winner and get full support from the DAO, where the DAO would be able to invest in this meme coin.
And I think Rock has a couple of ideas on how we can do that.
And maybe you have, guys, some ideas on how it could be – what would be the better approach to do this.
Rock, what's your opinion on this?
Rock, what's your opinion on this?
You were asking me like what some ideas of how to carry it out are.
Once they're in the DAO, there are multiple ways that the DAO could invest in a token, for example.
Oh, like what to do with the token afterwards?
Once they're there for voting for the DAO to vote, there will be like a pool prize.
And then there are multiple things that we can do with this pool prize, like buy a certain amount of this coin over a certain amount of time, for example.
Or help with liquidity pools or directly invest in it.
I think – I really like that idea.
I've never seen it done in the industry.
But I think – because there's like – you know, a lot of time when people invest in things with projects, they try to do an OTC deal, right?
And they like – they ask for like a discount and they want an OTC deal and this and that.
But that doesn't like help with the price with the community.
So like I would say why not make it so that they're buying it from the current users, not from like an OTC deal with the project.
So like because if the DAO bought OTC over the counter, for those who don't know, like just a private deal with the project, then none of the holders really benefit because they're buying it from the project, not from the people.
And this is about the community.
So we want that – we want the DAO to buy it from the people.
And so the way I would see this going is maybe whatever amount of money the DAO decides to invest in the projects, then it would just buy on the open market over a period of time randomly so people can't really like try to front run it and then like dump afterwards or whatever, like sandwiching the trade basically, kind of like MEV on chain.
But yeah, so I think that to me seems the most interesting.
I think we should try out.
Curious what the community thinks.
But yeah, like let's say, you know, a project one and we say, okay, we're going to buy 10,000 or 2,000 or 20,000 or 100,000 depending on how big the project is and if the community is voting.
Like because it could be for a big, really big project if we get a huge project and we're in talks with some right now about coming to the chain.
And so the DAO could vote like if we're talking to a project that wants to come in the chain and launch an NFT collection or a meme coin or whatever and they're a very famous project, we could try to ask if the DAO wants to vote to give them a very large sum of money to come over.
And that that sum would be used to buy their tokens or their NFTs or maybe maybe the DAO gets like half of the mint or something or a quarter of the mint or whatever.
And then, you know, so the DAO would buy some tokens over time on an exchange over a period of time.
The reason I say over a period of time and not all at once is because then people could try to front run it.
You know, if we said, oh, we're going to buy $10,000 of tokens on Monday at 2 o'clock, well, then people will just buy the token right before then.
Then after we buy, they'll sell it.
We don't want people front running the community.
So we're front running the DAO, I should say.
So what we would do is say, OK, we're going to buy the X amount over like, you know, a month or two months or three months or whatever.
And then that way people it's harder for people to front run.
People will still kind of front run because they'll know that there's, you know, the DAO, which is a whale.
Is a big buyer in the market.
So people will be buying the token, you know, trying to kind of front run in that way, knowing that there's a big buyer.
But they won't be able to like, if they front run, they'll have to front run and hold.
They won't be able to front run and then like sell is kind of key.
So it'll actually create some hype and excitement around whatever token ends up winning.
I'm sure it'll have some big repercussions, I would think.
The idea is not only for the token that will win, but that will create some volume on the chain as well.
Show that projects can be successful on Doge chain as well.
They can get gains, which will effectively draw in some capable teams that are to create other meme coins on Doge chain.
And, you know, get the ball rolling sort of snowball effect where everybody's fighting for the next maybe DAO vote, et cetera.
So it's a way to increase not only the success of one single or three projects, for example, but it's also to get more eyes on the chain and get more teams to build, use the build at Doge, for example, to create coins and get new communities on Doge chain, which is, of course, always our biggest strength.
By the way, I was thinking of something while you were talking about the investment and how we could do it.
I was thinking, for example, we could link the amount of the investment to the number of votes.
The more votes there are, we could set like tiers.
If we reach, for example, 500 million VDC votes, the prices will be this and this.
If we reach 1 billion VDC, the price will be higher, et cetera, et cetera.
Maybe, maybe I'm just spitballing here, of course.
It's not nothing is in the books yet.
But it's something that could be an interesting mechanism for, to get more people to participate and see that actually the DAO works together with, the more people participate in it, the better the investment might come out.
It's like, I don't know, it's a little bit like quadratic funding.
Not really, but kind of similar concepts.
But, yeah, I like also the idea of, and you could do both of these potentially, but you could do something where, like, let's say you do the social contest first.
And then anyone who makes it from the social contest, like on Twitter, Reddit, et cetera, if they, like, say the final 10 projects go to the Dogegrass vote, final five or 10 or whatever.
And then based on the percentage of the votes they get, they get that much of the pie.
Let's say the total prize pool was, you know, 20,000 or 50,000 or 100.
I think the first ones we should start small, like trying this out.
But whatever the prize pool is, you know, you could say if one project gets 30% of the vote, they get 30% of the prize pool.
If one project gets 10%, they get 10% of the prize pool.
If one project gets 80% of the votes, they get 80% of the prize pool.
I think that's a cool method.
That way it's kind of like they all kind of, anyone who makes it that far in the process, they're all going to win something.
But it'll depend on how strongly the community feels about them.
That's great because I was thinking on how to divide the prize pools.
Let's say first one gets half and the other half is, you know, divided by the other two projects.
But what you're pushing out here is much more interesting because it actually shows how strong these projects are
and how much voice they have in the community, how appealing they are to VDC holders, which are the DAO.
And, yeah, this sounds pretty exciting, actually.
I'm noting everything that we're saying right now.
So, yeah, pretty cool stuff.
We would like to push the discussion around this, though, guys.
This is why we're bringing this to you and why, you know, we haven't decided.
This is why every time we try to bring the conversation to the community, because we don't want to be making these decisions alone.
We can give ideas and then we can all discuss together and then and then come up with what works best.
But, yeah, we want to really strongly push this conversation.
So in the Telegram, you know, Reddit everywhere, let's start discussing this more and try to come up with the best solution.
Because remember, guys, this is your DAO.
Nobody, no contributors, team members own the DAO.
This is your community funds that will be being invested into these projects.
So if you want it to be spent properly and have the best kind of due diligence and all that, it's up to you guys to all help us craft this system.
And that DAO fund is big.
It's 29 percent of the total market cap.
I don't know what that is right now, but I think it's like 40 million, 50 million bucks or something.
So remember, and then, you know, that could be spent over a short or long period of time.
I think it's, you know, going to be spent over a long period of time, thinking long term.
But, yeah, I think this is a great way of taking some DC liquidity, investing it into the ecosystem.
Yeah, Penny, you have your hand up.
When you see somebody that we stop talking or something like that, feel free to talk, man.
So, like, I'm just thinking out loud here, just kind of the way I've, like, envisioned or kind of dreamt about it is some kind of model where, like, it's almost like a launch pad.
And instead of delegating your VEDC to validators, that VEDC could be delegated to the projects themselves.
And then some rewards similar to the VEDC model where it spits out DC tokens.
Maybe you actually get, like, tokens of the project itself or something of that nature, some kind of mechanism involving that where you've already got your DC staked into the VEDC model system itself.
We're just creating a different layer or a different, like, a different mechanism.
I think this could be done in two different ways.
For example, it could be done through, by contacting the projects that are in the DAO.
And they do an airdrop to everybody that voted because that's why we have the VEDC.
It's so that we have on-chain proof of who voted, when, for who, et cetera.
We exactly know what happens there.
Because I had some questions earlier in Telegram.
Why don't we do it like quick swap so people can vote wherever their tokens are?
But the issue with that is that we can't do airdrops and stuff like that effectively.
At least on our side, how Dogegrass is programmed, we can do it.
But the issue is that they will lose the snapshot and they don't have the data to provide the airdrop.
So going back to what Penny was saying.
So one is airdrop from projects.
And the second one is allocating a percentage, for example, if we do over-the-time buy-ins.
As the DAO does, a percentage of the buy-in goes to the voters, for example, as an airdrop.
It might be substantial, might not be.
I'm not sure how the metrics would look.
I need to put the data on a spreadsheet.
I think it's good to take it slow with all these things.
So I think the first aspect is choosing the projects to invest in and doing the investment.
And then just putting whatever is invested, the tokens or the NFTs, putting those into the DAO treasury.
And then I think from there, we don't need to rush on what to do with those tokens.
I think just hold them for the time being and then decide over time whether the DAO wants to either airdrop those assets to the DAO, to the VE stakers or airdrop those NFTs to them or sell some and do some distribution.
I wasn't – I didn't mean that we airdrop everything.
Like a small percentage of each buy-in, for example, 10% will be redistributed to all the voters, for example.
Oh, that's what I was saying, yeah.
So that not only the DAO invests, the voters also get some of those tokens that they voted for.
That was the idea, what Penny was having as well, I think.
But you know what Penny's – yeah, what Penny said is kind of interesting, which is like it could be continuous almost.
Like you could – okay, this is kind of like – actually, this is actually very similar to what Convex does on top of Curve.
And what it results in is because the funding is being given out based on the amount of votes you have and how much – how long you've locked up in their VE model as well.
But like over time, different tokens get liquidity farming rewards based on how much of the vote they're getting.
And so in this – in the model that Penny has suggested, which is interesting, is you could have it so it's a continuous thing.
Let's say there's a certain balance – a budget similar to the network, the validator reward.
You could have some budget, say $10,000 a month, $100,000 a month, $1 million a month, whatever.
And that budget goes every month to the projects that are getting the most votes.
And those votes could be dynamic and change.
And, you know, you could have bribing and – I know bribing sounds bad, but it's weird in these Curve and VE models.
They're like somewhat common, which is where you have votes.
Like let's say you're a VE holder, a VEDC holder, and you have your vote.
Well, a project, if they really want funding, could – and some people frown upon this and some people don't.
Some people say it's just part of the economics of it.
But you can say – let's say Penny has a bunch of VEDC and a project comes to him and says, hey, like we really want, you know, you to vote for us to get, you know, investment from the Dow.
We'll, you know, we'll do this for the community and we'll – and maybe even we'll pay you for your votes.
But it's interesting because like in politics that's illegal, kind of, kind of.
I mean that's – this is what fundraising and like stuff is – and lobbying kind of all are.
They kind of are like just a formal way of doing this.
But, yeah, this is something that does happen in crypto where projects – people who have a lot of tokens will like – there's even like protocols built on top of this bribing systems.
Where people like vote – people pay people for their voting power so that they can send liquidity mining rewards to their token.
So, there's a lot to there to unpack.
But that's a pretty cool concept.
I actually really like that.
You could just like kind of automate this.
Like my kind of – my idea – well, I don't know how to like convey or express what I'm thinking exactly.
So, sorry if it kind of is all jumbled up.
But it's some kind of like system where, you know, instead of delegating to the validators, you're delegating to these projects themselves.
They're acting as kind of a custodian.
This is just like another idea.
Like they're kind of acting as a custodian or you're delegating to them but they may also be delegating to the validators.
There's recouping those rewards but then incentivizing or giving out rewards to people who, you know, are voting on their projects or have –
You're saying they're like – they're almost like – it's like almost like a republic system where you're delegating your votes to someone and then they're choosing where to put the rewards?
Like instead of delegating to the validators themselves, you could be delegating to the projects that you want to invest in.
Those projects then take those VEDCs and they have their – they can either re-delegate the VEDC to validators themselves and keep the rewards for themselves and then reimburse whoever has invested.
That doesn't work for one reason is that VEDC is not transferable.
So, you cannot give your VEDC to somebody else.
Yeah, but there's technical workarounds.
No, but I think there are technical workarounds to that.
Like escrow accounts or something like that, you think?
Escrow smart contracts, actually.
So, you put it in escrow in an escrow smart contract, for example, for that project.
And the project can use that smart contract to delegate, to validate it.
Or you could have like – it could even be a new derivative token like a DVEDC, which would be like – it's a lot of letters.
The D would be like delegated or something.
But it could be just that like your original votes are still locked.
But that you're delegating your power – it's kind of like just what we do with validators.
So, like if you delegate to validators and then like, you know, the validators, they're earning revenue from your delegation.
And then they – you know, most validators will only take a small portion.
They'll take a 3% cut or 5% cut or 7% or 10% depending on the chain and all that and the validator and how big and trusted they are.
So, like, yeah, you could have it where you delegate to the projects and then the projects are now earning the validator kind of rewards because they're delegating to the validator.
They're earning delegator rewards.
And then – I know this sounds – I'm getting a little complicated.
But then they can – they could give, say, 97% back to the person who voted for them and they keep 3% for themselves or whatever the economics end up working out as.
Yeah, and because their token – your project token stands to – hopefully if it's a good project, it stands to – you stand to make way more than the validators – than staking in the validators yourselves.
But also the projects themselves accumulating all the re-delegated or re-wrapped, whatever you want to call it, VEDC.
You could also use potentially – well, I'm not sure if you could use that to vote too, but the whole reason behind, like, kind of my thinking around this is to ensure that projects have a reason to stick around for the long term instead of ghosting or rugging or anything like that.
So, you know, and their performance also is kind of tied to those delegations as well, right?
I don't know. I was just –
Then the foundation probably could manage, like, the buying of the assets over a period of time.
The reason you kind of need a foundation and you can't, like, do it as a smart contract is that you would need randomness because if it's in a smart contract, then people could see the smart contract and know exactly what time it's going to buy.
And they could front rent and sandwich it, which is a big problem.
So, you would need some randomness so that maybe someone from the foundation would control.
And that's as a way to introduce RNG to buys in a smart contract.
I'm not sure if there is.
Something Owen, I bet, would know about.
So, Ivan, like, on the side of the team that's, like, working on all this stuff and discussing all this, what's an ETA for when we can get that started?
So, for the first social competition or something like that, however we're going to call it, we're going to find a catchy name for it anyway.
That's really close because, like, next week, middle of the next week, we can get started with that.
And as it's because the thing is that the Dogegrass multiple choice implementation will be in a couple of weeks, 10 days to be more excited.
Exactly, but a couple of weeks to be sure to be tested in the background and be sure that everything is working fine.
So, you guys, so that's pretty soon, guys.
So, if you and the audience, community members, want to have your input on this, or it doesn't have to be on the first round.
The first round could be very simple.
And then we can, like these suggestions from Pennybags and others, we can, like, build more advanced systems over time, you know, that our developers would have to work on.
But for now, immediately, once we get Dogegrass multiple answers, then we'll be able to do this first, like, more simple round.
But, yeah, if anybody has suggestions about exactly how to implement that, how to do the socials contest.
I know one problem we have had, and everybody has when you do social, like, Twitter contest type stuff, is people try to game it, right?
Now, the good thing is that even if they do game the Twitter part of it, they won't be able to game the votes.
But they could game it and get, hello, could get to the end of the contest, you know, at least to the final round.
And then they're in, and they get whatever votes they get.
Luckily, the backstop is that they can't buy fake, you know, they can't fake the actual DC votes.
But we've got to find ways to, like, make this less gameable.
We don't want people, like, buying likes or, you know, whatever.
I think it's okay if people, like, last time there was some debate about people, like, commenting more than once or, like, people, like, trying to push people to vote and stuff.
I think that's, I don't know, maybe not the commenting more than once, but, like, pushing people to vote and campaigning, I think that's all good.
But, like, get out there in the public and, like, you know, start thinking about that.
When you're building stuff for the community, start thinking that, like, in the future, people are going to be voting where the DAO invests.
Well, then, hopefully, you guys are doing good for the community.
You're involved in getting people to get out and vote.
All these things and, like, you know, make a name for yourself or for your project so that when the votes come, you know, people know your name and people trust you and know that you've been around for a while and that you're, you know, that if they invest in you or your project or the project that you love, that, you know, there'll be a good ROI that they can trust that you're legitimate.
If you're, like, you know, if you're out there and you're a project and you, like, never say anything or never are involved in the community and then you come and try to ask for votes, you're probably not going to get very many votes.
So, you've got to be active and out there helping other projects, you know, kind of campaigning like a political campaign.
Yeah, and what you said earlier that the rewards would be linked to the number of votes that each project gets.
Percentage, for example, is an incentive to not game the system because once you get into the VDC model, there's no gaming anymore.
You actually need to have been in front of the community, build that community, show that you're there for them.
Show your project, explain that your project is viable and why, etc.
So, once you're in the VDC model, there's no gaming and the real good project will get most of the votes and you'll get nothing.
So, the idea is not to game the Twitter likes and retweets that amounts to nothing in the end.
Because once you're there, it's too challenging to game anything anymore.
Ivan, for the first one, I think we're leaning towards, and the community can weigh in on this, but I think the first one, because we're in kind of meme season right now, I think the first one is going to be focused, is it going to be solely on meme coins?
Yeah, we will focus on meme coins for the first, but as we go forward, this is not, you know, exclusive to memes.
This is for all the projects that are building on the chain and we can do themed, for example, competitions or votes on Dell, depending on how many projects there are in each category.
For example, gaming, I don't know, tools, etc.
NFTs, I'm very excited to participate in the NFT one.
I think we got a lot of really cool NFTs on those chains.
And there are some even cooler, maybe not cooler, but there are some really good ones coming up as well.
That's some alpha that we have that we're building some stuff here with some pretty big names in the industry.
And hopefully they'll join us, which would spur some momentum for the NFT ecosystem and help out the other projects that are there.
Because they're so awesome, but they don't have enough exposure at the moment because of the low volume.
But this volume will not stay like this.
I mean, the whole industry, NFT ecosystem, across all blockchains is pretty much suffering at the moment due to the market conditions, etc.
They're highly speculative, not very liquid as well.
Even Stellana, which was the biggest, I think, well, second behind Ethereum, but the biggest non-Ethereum chain volume for a long time.
Their volume is down on NFTs.
I don't know when I last checked, but it was something crazy, like 90-something percent their volume was down.
It's just like this happens in the...
Especially with NFTs, because to be honest, NFTs are very speculative, right?
So, you know, you're going to like volume on, you know, Bitcoin and ETH and Matic and things are...
They've held actually pretty decently.
You know, the prices aren't doing so well, but their volume is still surprisingly like decent.
And at times, even hitting like volumes that were similar...
To the bull market, yeah.
Similar to the bull market at like peak...
But that's like peak times, right?
But, yeah, NFTs have really been hit across the industry pretty badly.
There's some memes in the industry that are popping off for sure.
Speaking of, if you want to leave in the comments or if you want to get up and speak, let me know.
What should I be buying here, guys?
I don't really look at it as like a serious investment.
Ivan, what do you see on Doe's chain?
What name was that meme point for me?
I've seen a few pop-up that are really interesting.
FPP has really cool tokenomics.
And we have the Pennybags here.
That's the creator together with some other ambassadors.
Jimbo from Pudoge, I think, as well.
And some other guys that are pretty trustworthy.
They have pretty cool tokenomics with buybacks, burning, etc.
So, I'm not really super familiar with everything that goes on with the transaction.
But it's pretty interesting.
And it's very community-oriented.
Then we have Grimace coin.
I don't know if we have some people.
I contacted them to get them on the spaces.
But I guess they weren't able to join.
It went from one penny to about $10.
Yeah, I've been hearing people talking about that one quite a bit.
Which has been getting some volume as well.
Yesterday or the day before, we had Pepe Doge.
That's on the top of my head.
And, of course, you got El Peperino, which is my coin that I created for a tutorial.
The community even created a Telegram group for me.
I didn't have time to create a website or anything like that.
I mean, I know it wasn't even a reel.
Like, you were just doing it for a tutorial.
So, I did it with the Builder Doge.
I put some money in liquidity on QuickSwap.
You know, it's a meme coin.
It's, you know, my Twitter handle is ElDudorino.
So, Pepe was the thing that was happening at the moment.
So, El Peperino, why not?
Oh, yeah, yeah, right, right.
And, you know, I remember something about KibbeSwap.
They had some issues with the front end once again.
I was going to ask you guys about that.
If you guys know anything, what's going on with that?
I have no idea, to be honest.
I pinged the guys from the exchange in our group, but I haven't had any response yet.
But I know that Jim from Pudoge, he created, like, a front end that uses the…
Yeah, Jim went ahead and created, like, a fork for KibbeSwap, and we made it.
It's pretty much KibbeSwap now.
My phone's dying, so now my speaker's off and I'm having trouble hearing.
I have to hold it to my ear while I'm walking.
I'm going to walk back to my house and plug in.
But who is that speaking?
Okay, and you said that KibbeSwap, someone else made a front end for it for in case these guys are unreliable.
Yeah, so Jim from Pudoge has been helping us out a lot over in…
Or helping me out a lot, I should say, on Kibbe.
He went ahead and created his, like, our own fork swap for KibbeSwap since it's down right now.
You know, we've been in the KibbeSwap.
So we've been in the KibbeSwap, you know, we're trying to let all…
You know, because a lot of people in KibbeSwap has been in a panic about the whole situation.
So we're trying to, you know, trying to incentivize them and, you know, let them know that we have a working swap.
You know, it works perfectly fine.
So if anybody, you know, needs to trade, you know, anything on KibbeSwap, they can go ahead and go to swap.
And all their liquidity is there on because you're just plugging the front end.
I think Jim is here so he can explain better.
Yeah, I was about to say.
Yeah, it's basically the same thing as KibbeSwap, but I noticed that they use a custom RPC and there was something with the SSL that was causing it not to work.
So all I did was download all the files for the site and I changed the RPC to Anchor and, you know, made a few visual changes.
You know, otherwise it's basically KibbeSwap.
I will say, I will say I appreciate you helping the community with that.
Everybody just know, though, that like we can't, you know, nobody should be trusted in this space.
I should warn that if someone makes their own front end, you do kind of have to trust that person because they could inject malicious code and you may think that you're doing a swap or but you may be like handing tokens over.
So there is a possibility of that with people that run front ends.
I just want to put that out there.
I'm not suggesting that you're doing that, Jim.
And I greatly appreciate you helping people out with that.
But just remember that there is some risk when you anytime you any time.
And that's not just for this.
This is not just if you make a front end for something that's already deployed.
But anything, anytime you're using crypto, you have to know who you're connecting to, what websites you're connecting to and have some trust there.
There are some ways you can alleviate that risk.
And that's that you can make several wallets within one ledger on one MetaMask.
You could have, say, three wallets and one wallet is like your vault wallet.
That wallet you only do send and receives.
The next wallet is like a wallet you connect only to very trusted sites like blue chip sites.
And then you could have another third wallet that's like connecting to sites you may not know or trust.
And you want to so you only leave a certain amount of assets in that wallet.
That way, if there was some kind of like exploit that they could only take small amounts.
So there's like you can make several wallets within MetaMask, as many as you want.
You could have 10 tiers if you want, going from less risky to full degen.
But, yeah, something to keep in mind when you're connecting.
This is a great idea for a blog post.
I can make a blog post about this and how to add layers of security and organize your MetaMask so that, you know, you keep one of these wallets is linked to your ledger or your treasure.
So you need to, you know, confirm transactions on your hardware wallet.
For it, then you send to your second level where you connect to trusted websites like QuickSwap, Uniswap, etc.
And then you have the third level wallet where you connect to, you know, more degen stuff that might just disappear.
Maybe we could just say less battle tested, you know.
The more years something has been around, the more you can trust it.
You know, it's the Lindy effect, right?
The longer something is alive, the more likely it'll live longer.
The longer it's here, it's becoming more difficult and impossible to kill or destroy.
Yeah, and about people making their own front ends, just when you go to make a transaction, always make sure that it's interacting with the – you can see the contract it's interacting with when you go to make a transaction in MetaMask.
And, you know, you can see that it's interacting with Kibble.
But just to be safe, it's good to make sure you revoke your approvals.
I mean, MetaMask has gotten better lately.
Now, when you go to make an approval, it doesn't just, you know, approve a shit ton of whatever token.
It does the exact amount that you need to swap.
But it's always good to go to revoke.cash and make sure you revoke all your old approvals.
Hey, Jim, I've got a session for you.
I've heard about sites where you revoke like that.
But aren't there – I think it might be natively built in MetaMask now.
You could remove – okay, maybe not.
You're removing connected sites.
I'm actually not sure if that's the same as revoking an approval.
If you're disconnected, you're just not connected to the site.
But if you give permission to your address to interact with a smart contract, it remains in the background if you're not connected to the website at that point.
So you need to use like tools to revoke the permissions actually that you give to your wallet.
Because when you do a transaction, sometimes MetaMask will tell you, yeah, this app is requesting from you to give it permission to do this, do that, spend your tokens, etc.
So first of all, first thing you need to do is read carefully what it asks you to do and what permissions you are giving it.
And next is when you have any doubts about this website or this smart contract is to find a tool that will revoke these permissions and allow you to, you know, completely disconnect your address from this wallet.
I got a question about revoking the access when you're using ledger devices because I've tried using sites like revoke.cash, etc.
After having used some smart contracts and I don't get the option to revoke access, maybe because it's like the ledger itself requires manual approval for every set of transactions anyway.
Even if you give it, even if you give the smart contract any permissions, those permissions are void through the ledger.
You need to be physically push the button and confirm the transaction, confirm whether it's, even if it's in the background, you know, you don't see it.
You need to push the button, anything that happens, any funds that move on your wallet, you need to physically approve it on your ledger or your treasurer or anything like that.
Yeah, so that's why, like, I don't know, man, no financial advice or anything, but I've been using a ledger ever since I embarked on DeFi and entered the chain.
This was the chain that I experimented and got me into DeFi, and, you know, from the very beginning, I set up the ledger to be linked with Metamask.
I wouldn't have it any other way, man, like, spend the extra $100 or whatever it costs to get a hardware wallet, and it's just, it's an insurance policy.
People, you know, people spend like $1,500 for a ledger wallet to keep their money in their pocket.
It's the same thing, you know, it's something to keep your money in something, you know.
Except for here you could hold millions or billions of dollars in a ledger wallet.
Exactly, and not only it's somewhere that you can hold, it secures your funds, it secures them so that nobody else can access them ever.
Unless it's ledger, because apparently ledger can send the portions of your seed phrase to the government or something, I don't know.
Well, in their defense, if people didn't follow that, it sounds like you still have to approve to export the private key,
but it's still scary that nobody ever thought you could even export a private key from a ledger, but, yeah.
The thing is, even if it's on approval, it's a function nobody needs for a hardware wallet.
Even if I understand their vision, they want to onboard more people that are not familiar with blockchain technology
and that they don't understand that they need to keep their seed phrase, you know, safe at all times,
that they need to keep it in safe or they need to separate it into different secure spaces,
laminate if it's on paper or use a metal key or something like that.
But, yeah, it's a hassle, but you are your own bank in blockchain.
That's the whole idea of it.
And having Ledger, which is a hardware wallet, which is supposed to never send out any information about your funds or seed phrase,
especially your seed phrase or your private key, outside of that hardware wallet,
it's just ridiculous that it exists even as an opt-in.
Yeah, I was a little bit, like, I'll be honest with you, when I was doing all my research and when I purchased the Ledger,
that was the thing that immediately popped out to me, even as a newbie.
I was like, why are they placing so much importance on putting your seed phrase down on a physical piece of paper,
which I understand, right?
You know, that's the best way to secure it.
You don't want anything stored digitally that could be compromised, right?
So physical is always the best way.
But the fact that they had a seed phrase recovery program or option,
right away that was kind of surprising to me because...
To me, it's not surprising to me.
It's a red flag for me, which means that they have some access to it.
Nobody should have access to it.
But I think Penny is talking about something different, though, Penny.
Are you talking about the fact that you write your words down?
I'm basically saying, like, despite the fact that they've instructed new users to only keep their seed phrase on physical paper
and totally offline, they still offer you, like, they make it clearly apparent to users that you can somehow recover the seed phrase.
So how can that be possible if you were to only back it up via, you know, a physical piece of paper or otherwise?
The hardware wallet saves your seed phrase.
It doesn't hold coins or anything like that.
It's just an interface between your wallet and your blockchain so that you can handle your assets, etc.
And what it holds is your private key.
It encrypts it and it holds it offline, which is the main purpose of it.
You know it on a piece of paper.
You need to understand the technology that why you're doing this, why you're noting it on a piece of paper,
why you need to tell your wife where you hide it, because if you get hit by a bus, it's over.
Nobody knows where it is and they cannot access your 10,000 Bitcoin.
But the fact that they added this recovery option where they actually send a portion of your seed phrase in three different custodian places
is a red flag to me, especially that on interviews, they push them a little harder.
You know, the ledger execs, interviewers push them a bit harder and they ask them,
what if somebody subpoenas you to provide these?
Yeah, they said, yeah, we will be obliged to do it.
Especially this came at a very weird timing when the European Union voted for a law
which requires like wallet providers, DeFi, centralized exchanges,
everybody that holds funds to KYC their users.
And this came like two days after.
So it was really weird timing.
Wait, wait, wait, say that again.
So there was a law that was passed in the EU that requires wallet providers
and centralized exchanges to KYC.
Everybody that was already...
Even wallet providers, yeah.
Like hardware wallet, et cetera?
It's vague because they don't, they seem to not understand the technology
because even if a wallet provider is just providing you an interface to, you know,
communicate with the blockchain, they don't have your data.
Those that comply, nobody will actually use them.
Before you continue, by the way, if anyone in the audience wants to join in
on the conversation, feel free to request and we'll bring you up
and you can jump in, chat anytime.
We want this to be a conversation of the whole community.
By the way, I love all the Doge, our Doge chain NFTs in the audience.
I think, I don't know why, but this one just grows on me every time I see it.
But Shibby's little, what is that?
Is it like, I don't know what that is.
Yeah, he has like bags under his eyes and he's smoking a cigarette.
He looks like he had a long binger night.
It's the bear market PFP.
Yeah, I was just going to say, this is his bear market PFP.
He's got, I think he's got the most, he's got one of the most expensive ones
or he's got the Jesus RDP actually.
There's more than one of that.
Is there just one of that one?
I think it's high up there in the rarity.
I'm not sure which one was it exactly, but I know it's pretty rare,
Yeah, I'll look it up just out of curiosity.
I think it's like number 10 or something, something close to that.
And Sphere King, how do you interpret your own RDP?
Is that a, like, what is that?
Like a kinky, what is it, BDM fisherman?
It's actually perfect because like in real life, I'm a big time fisher.
So when I got that RDP, it was, like, meant to be.
I actually, yeah, I bought my dad a laser eye fisherman RDP because he's a Bitcoiner and he's a big fisherman.
He's been taking me fishing.
We do mostly deep sea fishing.
We're actually setting up a trip right now.
So if anyone's in California and wants to go on a three-day fishing trip, we're going to be going probably out of, like, San Diego looking for probably albacore and some bluefin and maybe yellowtail.
Rock, on the other hand, is a real-life Jedi.
So that's why he has a lightsaber.
And I like the green because it's like Baby Yoda.
Oh, the green lightsaber is Luke Skywalker, man.
They could have gotten an actor or somebody that looks like him or something like that.
So it's always, like, uncanny valley with these CGI stuff, AI deepfakes.
I mean, it looks pretty realistic.
It looks pretty realistic, but it just misses one thing that makes it super weird, you know, when you look at him.
There's just that one little thing that makes it weird.
It's much better than it was, like, Leia and Tarkin in Rogue One, for example.
But this one is already better.
You see the technology evolving.
So maybe in, like, 10 years we'll have the real actors.
You won't be able to tell the difference.
I don't even think 10 years, man.
But just a little throwback to that.
I don't want to ruin it, actually, if people haven't seen Mandalorian.
Turn the speaker off if you don't want me to spoil Mandalorian.
But the scene where – or the episode where Luke Skywalker goes to Baby Yoda, basically, and he's supposed to be training him.
And he says – and then Mandalorian comes and drops off this, like, Beskar chainmail thing for Baby Yoda, like a gift for him because he doesn't want to see him and distract him from his Jedi training.
And he gives him this little Beskar chainmail.
Mando doesn't actually go talk to him.
He just gives it to the lady, and she goes to give it to Luke to give to him.
And Luke is like, okay, this is going to distract him.
He's going to think of Mando because Mando is like Baby Yoda's adopted dad.
And Luke basically tells Baby Yoda, I was so fucked.
I was like, I'm done watching this show when this happened.
But Luke tells Baby Yoda, basically, you either have to – here, you can take – Mando gave you this chainmail.
Or you can take this lightsaber.
And he gives him a little mini lightsaber for Baby Yoda.
And it's like – you're going to ask a little kid, do you want the chainmail or the lightsaber?
And I was so pissed off because – and again, spoiler, turn your phone off if you don't want to hear this.
But then – and I think, like, the next episode, Baby Yoda shows up.
I swear I cried like a little bitch.
I mean, Cindy and I – Cindy and I.
Baby Yoda shows up with the chainmail to Mando and basically told Luke to fuck off.
He doesn't want to be a Jedi anymore.
It is the greatest love story of all time.
This is in Boba Fett, I think.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Boba Fett, by the way, it's Mandalorian 2.5, I think.
Because Boba – dude, that was great, though.
It was nothing – I like the show.
Like, the first two episodes, it doesn't – not a lot of it happens.
You know, Boba Fett just prances around and does – and is a hot.
But it actually developed a little bit in the later episodes.
We were not even – we were like – yeah, Cindy and I had just got done watching Mando,
which is just, like, incredible.
And then we were watching Boba Fett and we're like, yeah, this is cool.
We weren't, like, that into it, you know.
And then all of a sudden, Mando and Baby Yoda come into the show and we're just like –
because someone told us, keep watching it.
And I think they knew how much we loved Mando and they didn't want to spoil it for us.
And so they told us, keep watching it.
You got to keep watching it.
It gets good because I think we stopped watching it.
And then Baby Yoda and Mandalorian come into it and take over the whole series.
Yeah, it was difficult to push through at the beginning.
First, I think I saw the first episode and then two weeks after I saw the second episode.
And then somebody said, yeah, it actually gets better.
Said, yeah, I'm two episodes in.
And, yeah, it got better.
What do you think about the whole Disney, like, taking over Star Wars?
And, like, it's definitely changed the feel of it.
But, I mean, I don't know.
I'm thoroughly enjoying it.
There are some hits and misses.
The sequels are missed for me.
The first one, Force Awakens, was pretty good.
You know, it set up a lot of stuff that could happen.
Then you had The Last Jedi who crapped on Luke and all that he stood for.
Like, in The Last Jedi, he sees that Ben is dreaming about something.
Luke Skywalker would never do that.
He helped his dad, who was fucking Dark Vader, come back from the dark side.
And he was going to kill Ben, a kid, because he had dreams of the dark side.
I mean, that was completely out of it.
You mean that new guy that was turning evil?
The guy's sister, the girl's brother?
Yeah, but Luke was a different person now, too.
Like, he's not the same person he was when he tried to bring Dark Vader back.
I don't know, and the last movie was completely bullshit.
Like, he was, dude, Luke was a pussy, man.
Like, Palpatine returned.
He abandoned the Force, too.
Like, he's a totally changed, he's like a broken human being in that.
There's no reason for it.
The reasons they give you are really bullshit.
Why did Yoda go into, after Yoda, after episode, I think episode three, when all the Jedi kids are killed and all that.
Yeah, he wanted to do kind of thing.
Master, whatever, that guy.
And then he goes into exile.
How is Yoda going into exile and not helping?
The Empire is the problem.
And Yoda, he feels like he's alone.
Yoda just goes, I'm turning tail and running, and he goes into a swampland?
But, yeah, Luke, the thing is that Luke should have, you know, been a bigger man than Yoda and not do that.
Especially that there wasn't, like, an Empire going after him.
He destroyed the Empire almost single-handedly together with the Rebellion.
So, he suddenly tries to recreate a Jedi Order.
Something goes wrong, and he just goes into exile.
Yeah, that pissed me off.
And the end, I mean, the last movie, Palpatine somehow returns.
It was such complete bullshit.
It was everything, like, they had no beginning, no ending.
They didn't know anything what to do with it.
But then we had the Mandalorian, which was pretty great.
We had Boba Fett, which was mid.
It was okay because of the Mandalorian.
We had Obi-Wan, which was really rough at the beginning.
But the final couple of episodes saved it when Vader comes in.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
But, yeah, the first three, four episodes are super slow.
And they have no meaning.
It could have been a movie.
Maybe there's the Bad Batch, which is an animated series.
There's a Sokka coming in.
But that's, like, more grown-up.
It's more of a grown-up series, like, starts of the rebellion against the Empire,
You've seen Rogue One, right?
Honestly, it's getting kind of crazy.
If you haven't seen Rogue One, you're missing one of the better Star Wars movies that exist,
It's one of seven, eight, or nine, right?
This one is a standalone.
It's about when they get the plans for the first Death Star, when they destroy the first
You should watch it, like today.
I don't think I have seen it.
I'm looking at the actors and actresses.
But you know what's really cool?
Man, I wish I could pin the link.
But it was like showing all the history of all Star Wars films, shows, everything, and
it puts them in a timeline.
And you could see, like, it really helps a lot because there's so many series and miniseries
and even the cartoons and everything.
It gets so crazy that it's really hard to put together the timelines of like, wait, when
You know, I'm trying to figure all this out.
There was this one YouTube I found that put it really well in like, I think, 10 minutes.
And it shows this like on a paper, like a physical timeline of like, okay, this is when this
Anyways, I wish I could explain what I'm visualizing here.
It helped me really put a lot of stuff together.
It doesn't span that long.
The whole thing, even though there's so many series, it's only like a...
It's like 100 years or something of story.
Yeah, something like less, maybe even.
And for example, The Clone Wars, the animated series is actually one of the better things
that you need to watch from start to finish.
I know the first season can be a little bit rough animation wise, but then it develops.
Some of the best canon arcs are in that.
Like you learn more about the clones.
You learn more about the Nightsisters, Darth Maul, et cetera.
It's really, really well done.
Then you have Star Wars Rebels, which is a pretty great animated series as well.
Again, first season pretty mid, and then it develops really, really cool.
And there's Thrawn, the main villain, which will come back in the next movie.
Have you all seen the Obi-Wan TV series?
Yeah, it was okay, I guess.
The beginning was pretty rough, but the last couple of episodes were great.
The beginning was kind of slow, but it ended pretty good.
And I'm pretty sure I heard that they're creating a season two for it.
I think they're done with it.
Because I thought they were in talks about it.
Well, sometimes, even if they cancel things, they do still do it later.
It gets picked up, right?
Well, in this case, it wouldn't...
And this is what I was going to say.
It's like sometimes another studio, but in this case, I guess not.
Because Star Wars owns it.
I'm going to reiterate, if somebody hasn't seen Rogue One, by the way, watch it right
away, because it's one of the best Star Wars movies to exist, in my opinion.
Even if there are no Jedis and no Force, but it's a great Star Wars movie.
Speaking of Disney, Cindy is working on Tron 3 for Disney right now.
She's doing the casting for it.
I actually like the second one.
The CGI was pretty rough, but...
Have you seen the first one?
No, I mean, the CGI was okay.
The world building, et cetera, was pretty well done.
Otherwise, it was pretty good.
If you go back and watch the first one, you'll see what cringey CGI looks like.
I mean, I can't believe it.
I remember the 70s or something.
I went back to watch the first one, and I was like...
I mean, not just the graphics, but, like, it's a little cheesy.
It's like that's kind of how things were in the 70s, I guess, and 80s.
It was a little more cheesy, like cheesier lines and stuff.
I remember really enjoying it as a kid.
But now, you know, kind of film has stepped up its game so much.
After watching the second one, then going back and watching the first one, you know, because
Cindy's working on the third one now, so we wanted to go back and recap the first
And I was like, this is a...
It's pretty cringy to watch.
It's like, you know, it's a piece of film history.
It's the first movie made with almost all CGI.
It's rough to rewatch now.
It hasn't aged that well.
As you say, it's not only the CGI.
It's also the lines and it's a pretty basic story, you know, of the hero saving the world.
I always try to, like, get a little bit of credit.
I try to sneak in some suggestions to Cindy and hope it gets to her boss about, like, recommending
people for the films and shows she's working on.
And I recommended Michelle from Kitco News as they were looking for, like, an anchor for
And I was trying to push her on the end of the fray.
I've tried to recommend a lot.
Captain Hook was Jude Law, who I love.
I don't think he's a good Captain Hook.
So I was pushing for Jim Carrey, and she was talking with her team about it, and they were
actually, like, really considering Jim Carrey, and then they ended up going with Jude Law.
Jude Law's just too serious for Captain Hook.
I think Jim Carrey would have been, like, more silly and fun with the kids and stuff.
More, like, weird and energetic.
Isn't he, like, retired now?
Yeah, but he was on the table, so they must have been talking to him.
I think they were talking...
I might get her in trouble.
I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about this.
Some Disney alpha here, guys.
Unexpected Disney alpha on the Doge chain Twitter spaces.
Yeah, she's done a few things for Disney.
She did Cowboy Bebop for Netflix, the anime cult classic.
I think it's coming out this year is Hunger Games, a prequel.
It's the story of President Snow and how he became, like, the weird, evil guy he is now.
And then Planet of the Apes, she's doing a new Planet of the Apes, I think, that she did is coming out this year.
Yeah, she's the cool one in the relationship, for sure.
I'm the nerd talking about Baby Yoda on a Twitter spaces.
That was quite a parenthesis, by the way, guys.
I don't know if I should be sorry or glad about it, but just wanted to say, return to you to a more topic, real quick, regarding growth, community growth on Doge chain and increasing, like, engagement.
We are working on making some campaigns with Airlift, which were here on the last week's spaces.
They presented their product.
And we are going to push out some engagement campaigns, giveaways, NFT giveaways, et cetera, token giveaways as well for people that, you know, engage with our Twitter, create wallets on Doge chain.
First, we'll do some simple stuff, and then we can try with some more complicated things like trading, competitions, maybe holding, daily check-ins, et cetera.
But we're working on creating some interesting campaigns that will engage people outside of Doge chain as well.
I know it's a challenging thing right now with the market being as it is.
We had a little bit of hope at one point when we got to 30K almost.
But it has been rough in the markets for a lot of projects, especially altcoins.
Bitcoin, Ethereum are holding well, but most of the market is suffering because there's very little interest in speculation, except for meme coins, you know, exit liquidity, et cetera.
But, yeah, Rockies, by the way, his phone died, and he's reconnecting now that he's putting it on charge, I guess.
Yeah, that's about the growth, guys.
So we'll keep you posted.
It should be pretty much simultaneous with the meme coin competition that will, you know, segue into the DAO.
So we might see new users come onto the chain that will also be exposed to the DAO and the meme coin competition as well.
So let's hope that all of these marketing efforts will spur some growth, spur some interest, and keep the ball rolling on Doge chain.
Hey, would it be cool if I talk about KD a little bit?
Are we getting close to that, Tom?
We can do the shit control down.
By the way, I don't know if anybody else in the audience is a meme coin creator here.
And please do request to speak if you are, and you'll have your five minutes to talk about your project.
Tell me what meme coins to buy, guys.
The ones I'm looking at from today, what you guys mentioned.
We have Kibby on Quicksal.
We got LP, actually, on, like, multiple DEXs right now.
Okay, so is that the Kibby of the new UI for Kibbleswap?
Yeah, well, so I created Kibby off the build of Doge, and I kind of went, you know, the name, I got the name Kibby because I launched on Kibbleswap.
And our logo is, the logo that I got for it is AI generated, so it's, like, one of a kind.
You know, it's not like a copy and paste or anything like that.
But, yeah, so right now we got multiple LP on, our LP on multiple DEXs at the moment.
I'm pretty sure we got LP on every single DEX on Dodge, Shane.
If you got some on Kibbleswap, I'll check it out.
I don't know what it is, so I'm going to have to look first.
But, you know, maybe I buy it smaller.
Maybe I buy 20 bucks or 100 bucks or a couple hundred bucks or something.
But I always feel like seeing you.
You've been in our spaces forever, man.
I'll have to check this one out first, though.
So, everybody frontrun Kibble on Kikswap right now.
I'm going myself, going to frontrun Rock's purchase.
Well, I know TDH also just got on Kikswap recently.
So, I still need to buy some of that.
And I'm going to get some F Pepe, definitely.
Those are two that I'm definitely getting.
Grimace, I keep hearing about.
So, maybe I should get a little of that.
And don't, guys, I'm not going to buy millions of dollars, okay?
But don't get too excited.
But I'll buy a little bit.
I've got to look into it a little more first.
But definitely F Pepe and TDH token.
If you got any questions, just feel free to DM me.
I'll answer anything that you have questions for.
Yeah, talk about it in the official chat, too.
I know that Grimace is in talks with Mantra to create their NFT collection in addition to their token as well.
So, I guess they will continue supporting the project as it goes on.
It looks like they're in for the long term.
This is not financial advice or anything like that.
I'm just giving you the information that I have.
So, the Grimace one, is that like after that McDonald's character?
Anybody, do we have anyone else who wants to get up and speak?
I know we've been letting the community up.
Anyone else want to come chill anything?
Comments on how great Baby Yoda is?
I'm telling you, it's that, dude, Baby Yoda and Mandalorian is the greatest.
Cindy said this and I copy her now.
But Baby Yoda and Mandalorian is the greatest love story ever told.
I'm assuming you've seen the ending of the most recent season?
But don't say it if I, if, because I.
Okay, I have a problem with hoarding.
So, I have this thing where like I try not to finish things that I really like because I try to save them.
Like if, like, let's say there's one episode left.
Like this happened with Breaking Bad.
I think I had two episodes left and I told Cindy, hey, let's not finish tonight.
It was like, you know, it was a weeknight and I was like, I don't want to, let's wait until, you know, the weekend or, and then we'll have some wine and we'll finish it like in style.
Because I liked it so much.
And then like for some, for some reason we didn't that weekend and then it got pushed off.
And then like, well, I ended up never watching the end of Breaking Bad.
It's like one of my favorite series of all time.
The same thing with Final Fantasy VII, the video game.
I got to the end where you're supposed to fight Sephiroth in the, in the, um, the cave, in the ancient cave or whatever.
And, uh, I was like, you know what?
I don't want to beat the game yet.
So I went, I was like, I'm going to go master the game.
I'm going to try to get all the items and kill all the, the, the weapons, the main monsters and stuff.
And then I'll, I'll go beat Sephiroth later.
That happened to me like three times.
I've still never beat Final Fantasy VII.
You know, you know, that's, that's like, uh, uh, an ADHD, uh, type of thing.
I have the same issue and I had been diagnosed like recently with this and like, I play, I play, I have this problem with, with Assassin's Creed games and stuff that appears on your map everywhere.
You know, you need to do everything before you go forward in the story.
I think for me it's an OCD thing.
I think I definitely have a little bit of, um, obsessive compulsive, not obsessive compulsive disorder, but I have obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
It's like kind of being a perfectionist about things and not wanting to like, you know, you have to get it perfect, you know?
Yeah, that's, that's, that's what I have.
When I have like a million objectives on, on, on a map, I usually start doing the smallest ones and I get bored.
And of course, like how many hours can you play a game to finish, to finish like 60, 80 hours.
But then there's the, the, the extra 40 hours of story that you need to do, but you've already played the game so long and you get bored of it and you never do it.
And, uh, but that's what, that's what happens to me as well.
So I play games like, uh, I, I, like Elden Ring, I finished it, but I've never gone back to it because I have to do everything again and I just can't bear to do it again.
Uh, for example, I get, I got the latest Street Fighter and I'm going to stick to that because that's like skill and you need to trade and that's all, you know?
And you play other people and, uh, you don't, you have no 100,000 quests that you need to do.
You just stick to your character, stick to a couple of characters and you learn them and then you fight other people and that's fine.
Final Fantasy 10, uh, and nine.
I never actually finished the final, the final, uh, bosses because that same thing.
I was trying to like master the game, the, actually an odd one, the Bible.
I read the entire Bible except for a book of Revelation.
I never finished that, uh, uh, when I was young.
Uh, so yeah, I don't know.
And I didn't even realize I was doing this, uh, until later in life.
I was like, I started putting the pieces together.
I didn't finish Breaking Bad, didn't finish Final Fantasy, all these things.
And I can, I can look and it's like, uh, it's like a thing constantly in my life.
I like, I always have to master things.
I don't want to finish something unmastered.
Uh, it's, it's like a weird, uh, a weird trait.
Yeah, I got, I got the same issue.
Speaking of, uh, game story, I got, I, I do the exact same things.
I've got like a, I've got a whole library of games that have never actually, uh, beat because
of the problem that I have.
But like, like I'm talking like thousands of dollars worth of video games that are just
like sitting there and I've never beaten any of them.
Um, but, uh, speaking of video games, uh, the one that just recently launched is Diablo
So if there's any hardcore, wasn't Elon talking about that one even?
But why is Elon talking about that?
He does that guy don't have time for games.
If he's on video games, you better get off the video games and he better fix Twitter
Then he can play some games.
But yeah, it's, it's been in development for like 12 years now.
I've been waiting for it ever since, uh, like Diablo two was my favorite, I think out
But, uh, yeah, I've got Diablo four now.
I bought the deluxe version and I went all out.
So if anybody's playing Diablo four, feel free.
I can hop on and play with you guys.
Um, I'm, uh, I'm a super, super big Diablo fan, but I just can't get into that.
Uh, they, they have to, to many predatory, uh, practices, you know, pay to win and stuff
And I'm just not into it.
Well, all the online stuff that the, the, the seasons, et cetera, just, it's tiring for
The, the, the, the game that actually hit the perfect balance for me, uh, of, you know,
side quests and story and presentation, et cetera.
It was Ghost of Tsushima.
I don't know if you guys have played it.
If you want to be a samurai in real, in, in a video game, that's the game that you should
play and that, that had just not too many, uh, side quests, uh, side quests were meaningful.
They, you know, they added to the story and relationships with the characters.
And that was just like a perfect balance of good gameplay, good presentation and, and,
And once I finished it, I wouldn't play it anymore because that's it.
You know, you, you've done enough.
It, it becomes repetitive otherwise, but that, that struck, struck a good balance for
And, uh, we had Lisa up and we were talking about character flaws and I don't know why
I wanted to ask Lisa if she has any character flaws.
Um, but then she just left who anybody here.
Let's see, uh, Penny, what's your worst character flaw?
Probably being a perfectionist.
Uh, just, um, bro, that's like a job interview.
You can't, you can't answer like that's, that's a, that's like, they're like, what's your worst
trait in a job interview?
And you're like, I, I, I'm always, I'm on time too much.
It would probably be like, I probably think too much.
Like I, I, I probably like, that's one of my major problems.
I'd say, um, and so I like, so I have like, inaction is a problem, uh, for me, but when
I act, it's, it's like, once I've made a decision, I've made it, like, I've already
went through the motion of thinking of like 20 to 50 different alternative scenarios.
And I, I've already thought 20 steps ahead.
And so when I pull the trigger, it's just boom, but like that, it can be crippling.
So sometimes like it prevents me from, um, from performing well on certain things or,
uh, um, being able to make decisions in, in, you know, uh, in a, in a short amount of
time in order to take advantage, let's say of, uh, market conditions or otherwise.
That happens to me too, quite a bit, but I learned like too, you can't succeed in business
So you have to, like, I've found that making, you know, 90% thought out, uh, decision is,
is better than like, think, trying to think a hundred percent, but never actually executing.
You have to execute, right.
You have to come to the closest, the best conclusion you can have and hopefully have
Like, you know, most decisions made it like, uh, quick swap, et cetera, you know, dose chain
Like I don't make myself, I, I try to have the best person in that field, you know,
like if it's a development thing, I'm not trying to make that decision.
I have, you know, one of my, I put that to my best developers or if it's a, you know,
a marketing thing, you know, if it's a, there's like so many facets of marketing.
I'm the CEO of Lunar Digital Assets, you know, a marketing and incubation firm, but I don't
know the best ways to do SEO.
I don't know the best ways to make a graphic.
I don't know the best memeology.
I don't know that, you know, all that, like, but I, you just have to surround yourself
with really good people who can make those decisions.
And you gotta, like, you gotta, you gotta learn to lean on them and trust them.
And, uh, just, yeah, always like, it's always, uh, it's a goal, a good goal, gold, sorry.
It's a good goal to always be, or have that, uh, to, to know that you're, you're not the
smartest person in the room.
Because you don't want to be the smartest person.
You want to hire people smarter than you.
So it's, you don't need to, sometimes people have to remind themselves just that, you know,
you don't, you don't need to know the answers to everything.
And by the way, uh, crypto Canuck, you came on the, the polygon spaces and then, I don't
know, you, you might've dropped off or we didn't get a chance to let you speak.
Uh, we got to get you on that polygon spaces sometime.
And if you want to come back up here, if you have anything to say, uh, but Lisa, so I
don't, I don't know why we randomly, I was saying we should ask, what is Lisa, what is
give us one of your character flaws, Lisa?
My personal character flaw.
Expose yourself to us here.
That's a good one though.
I think we were on a call earlier and she didn't speak by the way.
So I don't know about that.
That was nothing for me to say at that moment.
I'm absorbing, but I mean, in general.
When I'm talking to people, like I tend to share more than I could.
I like that about people.
You know, in society, it could be kind of frowned upon.
Like, you know, it's like, Hey, don't, don't like say something that might offend someone.
But I think in like, in life and relationships and business, et cetera, and politics, especially,
I wish people would say the things that people are like scared to say.
Like, that's how you like, let's use examples in business.
If you're, if you're like, you know, on a board of directors and you guys are afraid
to tell another one, like if they're messing up or, you know, they're, you know, there's
a better way to do things.
If you're just like trying to be politically correct with each other all the time, you're
not going to make progress.
You have to be open to that criticism on both sides.
Like, you know, you have to be, have the, the, you know, be brave enough to criticize, you
know, the people around you, but in a respectful way.
And then they have to be, you know, like man enough to like our woman and I'm not to like
take offense and, and like correct it or make it better.
That goes like, like, go ahead, Lisa.
No, I was just agreeing with you.
Like I saw this thing with Elon, um, the other day and he was, someone asked him, um, like,
yeah, but don't you think the things you're saying, like that could affect your shareholders
and like, you know, that can make the price of your stock go down.
Don't you think you should maybe not say all the things that you say?
And he said, look, I'm going to say, like, I'm going to say what I believe and what's true
And if, if that means I make less money, I don't give a shit like, and I was like, Oh
my, I, that, I love that, man.
Like be, be honest, be transparent.
And if it means, Oh, Oh, your stock might go a little down.
I think your stock will do better in the end because people respect you.
We need that in politicians.
That's, that's the, the, the positive way of, of, of, of, of this.
The, the, the positive side of side of, but when you say too much about yourself to
people, they, I can understand that they can exploit this against you.
And that, that could be an issue, but yeah, I think transparency, I think it's a net positive
Like, I think, look, you can't expose everything about yourself.
We all have our secrets, but like, I think the more people are like just open books, Cindy
We, we moved in together last year and you know, we were a little worried, like could,
could it mess with the romance or like the lust and stuff.
And last night we were just talking about, man, I can't believe we're like happier that
I've never been this happy.
And we like, we love living together.
And she's like, yeah, it's cause this is maybe a little much for space, but she said,
yeah, it's cause you were, you were like, you, you never like hid yourself from me.
You're like, you didn't care.
You farted in front of me and you like all these, like, you know, like all of our flaws,
we just exposed to each other early on.
That's important when you're like in relationships with a partner or, you know, in business or
in politics or, you know, the relationship between a president and his people.
And like, that's the problem with politics right now is there's no fucking honesty.
And I, that's, that's one of the reasons I would like to go into politics at some point
is like to try to help bring some, some more transparency and like openness and honesty
I think like that's, I think that's why, like, whether you like him or not, a lot of people
like Trump, cause he was at least open about things, right?
He wasn't like hiding behind things so much and you, you can hate him.
And he said a lot of dumb shit and whatever, but he at least was honest.
So you got to give him that, uh, at least for the more honest than many other politicians,
Well, yeah, it was for sure.
Like authenticity is such a huge, huge thing.
You can't, you can't be wearing a mask all the time and, uh, people can see through that.
And, you know, I used to feel when I was young, I, I really, I remember thinking about this
too, like feeling like, and, and I still sometimes feel like this, um, like in society, we really
are like forced to wear masks.
I remember definitely in like high school and stuff feeling like I couldn't be myself.
I had to like, you know, I was always kind of like, I felt like I was like a closet nerd.
I was like a jock on the wrestling team, but like, I couldn't talk like, you know, to all
these guys in like public, you know, in front of people at school about like being, you
know, a raid leader in a video game and like spending, you know, so many hours on it.
Like I played one time, uh, EverQuest, I was camping this, this item and I, I spent 56
hours straight without sleep camping this thing.
And, um, like I, you know, as, as like, uh, on the wrestling team, I couldn't like, you
know, I had to like kind of hide that.
And I was always like a closet nerd.
And I just remember being young that like kind of messes with you when you're like trying
to hide things and you're afraid of what people are going to think about you.
And as I've gotten older, I don't know, I just don't care as much.
I think it's, it's just, it's a better to be transparent if you be, and if you're a
good person and you do the right things and being transparent, you shouldn't be ashamed
anyways, but we do have to like, we do have to wear masks in public in a lot of ways.
And a lot of people do, I hate it.
And it's like, we've got to be so politically correct, you know, things like things that
comedians would joke about, like why when a comedian jokes about it, it's funny and it's
But in regular life, we can't say those things, you know, why is there this, we have to have
this filter that we're not allowed to say the things we're actually thinking.
But like, that's one good thing about comedy is that it's, it is like an equalizer.
It allows people to at least say the things that they may be thinking that, you know, might
But in that realm, I guess you're allowed to do it, which is, it's the, at least we have
that start censoring comedians.
That's when things are, that's when you're, you know, you're in like 1984, a totalitarian
So yeah, you may as well filter or art at that point, like, you know, take away freedom
of expression altogether.
Um, yeah, I, I want to give some examples, but I don't want to like start choosing political
So I won't, but there are some examples of people like doing stuff like that.
Trying to like burn old art because like whatever reasons, uh, it's a little dangerous slope
I don't think we should cover up history.
You know, I think, uh, we should look at history and look at the mistakes we made in
history and then find ways to be better about it.
But if you start burning books or burning art or burning historic things, uh, I don't
I don't know if that's a, I don't know if that's the way to do it.
It's like hiding that it's like hiding your past.
It's like, it's like, you know, like, uh, a little kid, like, like poops his pants and
like berries it on, puts it under the bed or something like, so no one sees it, like
hiding your shame, I guess.
I think, I think history is so important because, uh, like whether people like it or
not, uh, you know, history does tend to repeat itself.
Um, and the only way that you can learn from mistakes is by looking at, you know, what was
And there's a lot that can be learned from the past, uh, that should be guiding you or
dictating you as to, you know, what, what type of actions or how you should handle things
accordingly, uh, in the future.
There's so many, I like Ray Dalio talks about this a lot, these big cycles, and it has to
do with, uh, basically that after a generation, people forget about big, bad things that happen
like big, you know, depressions or crashes and things.
And so then it like replays itself basically because the, you know, the human, uh, what
do they call like the kindred spirits, like of investors and human, uh, like psychology
and behaviors, like they kind of, these things play out again.
And it takes like, if, if it was within your generation or maybe your mom, you know, grandma's
generation and they have talked about it, then maybe you're worried about that thing.
Like whether it was inflation or the great depression or war or, you know, censorship of
freedom of speech or things, but then after enough time, people forget about it and then
So yeah, you got to study history and you got to go back quite a ways.
Like, uh, you know, I think studying at least, you know, 500,000 years is a good thing to
do, especially in financial markets actually.
We really sidetracked a lot today.
Star Wars, Baby Yoda, Disney.
Uh, we did talk about the DAO a lot.
For next week, by the way, we have a couple of projects lined up to, uh, to present, uh,
their deployment on the chain.
Uh, so, uh, yeah, that will, that one will be, uh, maybe more structured because we have,
uh, we have some guests there today.
We had, uh, Jack, which is, who is absent because, uh, he's having a baby.
I DM Jack and I'm like, Hey man, I like, I was like, I wanted to talk about like kind
of current, he's like one, a person I go to, to hear his thoughts on like the current market
conditions and like the macro like stuff.
Sometimes he's pretty good with that stuff, follows it pretty well.
And I was like, man, where are you?
I wanted to ask you about something today.
And he's like, bro, like my wife is literally having my baby right now.
Like, and I was like, I totally forgot.
So everybody can congratulate Jack, uh, tomorrow or today or maybe now, uh, cause he's, he's
popping out a third baby, third baby in a year and five months, by the way, it's not
even, it doesn't sound possible.
But he had twins and now, you know, not long later, uh, having his, uh, his third kid.
Yeah, guys, let's, uh, let's wrap it up for today.
I think, uh, we had, uh, we had a good run and, um, we'll be, we'll be back next week,
uh, like every week and, uh, we'll be presenting, uh, all that we talked about, like the, uh,
airlift campaigns, uh, MuneCoin competitions, et cetera, the, the DAO that is upcoming, uh,
the, with more concrete data, like, uh, they, they should be already been, been launched and,
uh, we can discuss that at, at that time.
Plus the project that we'll be presenting some, let's give a shout out to audience members
Um, thank you, uh, Pennybags and Lisa Marie and Sphere King and, and, uh, Pudoge who spoke.
Richie, I don't know if you got a chance to say anything.
Did you have something to say?
Um, nobody was talking about the rumor of GTA 6 and all about crypto.
So, is that bullish for us?
There's a rumor that the money and, uh, items might be, uh, like blockchain, uh, or
purchasable or NFTs or something like that.
But let's, let's take it with a grain of salt because, you know, AAA, uh, publishers,
we've, we've seen a lot of rumors about them, uh, until now.
That would be so cool, man.
But that would be, that would be huge because GTA is known to be, uh, some of the, one of
the biggest sellers, if not the biggest seller of, of video games ever.
And, uh, I haven't played the online one, but I often, uh, not often, but I've, I've seen,
I don't know why it pops up on my algorithm, but I'll sometimes watch like people doing stuff
I mean, it's that entertaining that you could watch someone playing it and like people
doing weird stuff in it with mods and stuff.
Um, I was a big fan of like, uh, I played, what was it?
God, all the way going back, I think Grand Theft Auto, like maybe was it three and four
and vice city maybe like 20, 30 years ago.
Four, four is with the Nico village.
The, it was, it was pretty cool.
It had the first euphoria engine, uh, you know, where physics.
Uh, were, were pretty much realistic on how people react to when you push them, et cetera.
That was, that was like real revolutionary at that time.
And, and, you know, they evolved that into GTA five and then Red Dead Redemption two, Red
What is, uh, Vice City, you're, you're skipping Vice City.
Vice City is before that.
Vice City is like, uh, after, uh, after GTA three.
And then we had GTA San Andreas.
Was five the one where you're the black guy?
That's, that's, I think it's the best one, by the way.
That is the best one, man.
The, uh, there was, uh, the, that relaunch they did, like the remaster, which sucks, man.
And how, how could they do that?
But the, the, the remaster sucks.
That's the one I, I think I have the best memories of.
It was the eighties, you know, Miami, et cetera.
It was, it was pretty great.
Did you guys hear about, uh, like the, they're, they're going to be integrating NFT.
Nike, Nike is going to be integrating, uh, their swoosh NFTs into, I believe the, uh, EA Sports FIFA titles.
So that was huge news that just came, came out.
The Polygon, the Polygon NFTs?
Uh, I think they are, they may be the Polygon NFTs.
I'd have to check, but they're integrating them in there.
They will be integrating them into a future FIFA game.
So that's, that's going to be the NFT integration into, um, you know, traditional, uh, gaming that we were kind of, we've been all, uh, waiting for.
By the way, uh, speaking of, um, Vice City, I'm pretty sure this song was in it.
I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I'm going to see, this is Herbie Hancock, really old, uh, like 1983 stuff.
But here, I'll, well, actually, if anyone has anything else to say, and then we'll play us out on this song.
And this is actually, I'm pretty sure this was in Vice City, and I'm going to see this, this, uh, this guy live, uh, in Los Angeles, I think in September.
But, uh, anyone have anything else to say before we play us out on some music?
I just want to tell you to make sure that you finish watching Breaking Bad.
Uh, I know, but now I got to rewatch the whole thing.
I restarted it because I was like, I was like, I don't remember everything that happened.
It's not going to be the same.
So, yeah, that's on my list.
I restarted it a couple times and still, and every time I don't finish, I have to, like, restart it again.
Here, all right, we'll play us out.
I hope you guys walked, got a couple miles in on that, on this, this spaces.
Yeah, happy Friday, guys.
There's a lot of Polygon spaces before this, too, man.
I see some people been here, like, the whole, like, five hours with us from Polygon to DogeChain.
Yeah, guys, thank you for that commitment.
Yeah, it means a lot to us.
We see you guys in the audience.
Yeah, actually, real quick, before we put that song on, let's do quick shout-outs to the audience members.
We've got Neat, we've got DogeChainReport, we've got Patrick, ToadSir, CryptoConnect, Shibi, Rainbow, DogeBears, DogeGang, S-E-A-I-O, with the pink hair, Lorenz, Druggist, DC, TDH Advocate.
Okay, did I say DogeGang?
I think Extra Terce Trails, Pop-In Doge, Weed420Cuba, okay, of Doge, JustTheBreeze66, who has a DogeChain Chimps.
By the way, I see so many DogeChain NFTs, like, on, and, like, so many DogeChain specific.
I think DogeChain has more community member, like, run Twitters than, like, Quickswap that has millions of users.
So, we have a really, like, cool community here.
I see them all over the internet, like, DogeChain, like, you know, whatever, it's DogeChain Enthusiast, DogeChain Ambassador, DogeChain, you know, just DogeChain NFTs.
Like, it's really cool that even in the internet.
All right, we'll finish naming people.
We've got TheMasagos, we've got EonCat, we've got YachtyDC, Tipsy, Jared, HDogFrogHeart, who has DC hashtag, 404, FantasyNFT5, Jay, GemHunter, TienFam, and John Noble.
All right, guys, have a good one.
And tell me in the comments or on Telegram, is this from Vice City?
Because I think it is, and I'm going to see these guys, so I'm excited.