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D👽OM ROOM w/Eric J. Hecker @DecipheringTV
Recorded: April 17, 2025 Duration: 4:26:24Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, key figures in the crypto space explore exciting partnerships, token launches, and fundraising efforts that are shaping the future of blockchain technology. With a focus on community-driven projects and the importance of transparency, the conversation highlights emerging trends and the growing demand for talent in the industry.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. I'm well, I'm well.
Thanks for hopping in.
And we're just waiting for Sarah.
I see Eric's already joined us.
So we'll be getting started very shortly.
I'm super excited for this. can i just run my mouth and
buy time is that okay keep it up keep going um let's see i'm gonna do some co-host stuff
um did you already send uh eric if you see the mic um things can be pretty buggy on x it's best
if you just hit the mic and fringer i will
approve your request and we'll bring you up here uh i can send you an invite as well but we like
to take things one at one at a time there's like one third grade software engineer working on x
spaces um everybody uh it's wonderful to see you guys I've been swamped with my own narcissism, my self-absorption, my health issues.
Don't worry, we will not be discussing any aliens, UFOs.
It's a strictly crypto space today.
We will only be talking about tokens and meme coins.
So don't worry, I know that you guys come for the crypto and you stay for the meme coins.
There will be no guest interviews. It's just crypto today. that you guys come for the crypto and you stay for the meme coins.
There will be no guest interviews.
It's just crypto today.
And it's great to be back.
Yeah, it's great to have you back, Ulrich.
We've been missing you.
We haven't had you in a minute.
Welcome to Sarah.
Sarah's filling in for TIFF today.
I hope we get TIFF up here.
But we love Sarah.
She's a great researcher.
I appreciate having you jump up, Sarah. And we have Eric who successfully joined the space. So welcome, Eric. Eric has been in a few spaces in the last couple of weeks, but just to let you know,
Eric, we do run it just a little bit differently. This space will actually just be dedicated to you.
We want to hear your story from beginning to end, anything you're willing to share with us.
The hosts and co-hosts will have questions.
And then once that is over and we've heard your whole story, we're going to open it up for audience questions.
So welcome, Eric.
Thanks for joining us.
How are you today?
I am doing fantastic.
Happy to be here.
Looking forward to all kinds of questions. And I'll just preface it with fire away with questions because it's easier that way than me trying to figure out what folks want to know.
Yeah, perfect, perfect. We will definitely have questions for you. So go ahead, Ulrich, and then we'll get to Sarah and then we'll get started.
Go ahead, Ulrich, and then we'll get to Sarah, and then we'll get started.
Eric, it's awesome having you here.
I first remember watching you just a few days after, what's his name?
What's his name?
Grush.
After the Grush hearing, the public hearing, Greer had his own disclosure panel.
Greer had his own disclosure panel and I think along with many other people remember your account, your testimony distinctly.
It's when I started realizing Antarctica is a little bit more interesting than just being a really cold place.
And I'm excited. I also want for you to realize this is your space.
And so I'm particularly interested in what's the edge for you.
We're going to ask you some stuff about the neutrino detector.
I'd love to know about what do you think right now is the most interesting state of ufology.
But I really want to know, like, what is Eric Hecker interested in these days?
And Sarah, thank you for filling in for TIFF. And Eric, welcome to the Doom Room.
Yeah, thank you, Fringe and Doomer. Thank you for inviting me. I'm happy to be here, Eric. It's a
pleasure to meet you officially here in this Doom space. I'm excited. I've got some questions on some research that I'm doing
regarding Antarctica, regarding just a few notes that I've taken. You dropped some interesting
stuff with Gary McKinnon and NASA. So I'm down. I'm in for it. Let's do this.
awesome thanks uh or thanks sarah eric uh wow so i watched your podcast with sean ryan i think
most people in the space are going to be familiar with the basics of your story i think most of us
saw you at the greer event or on the sean ryan uh show so we have a bit of a background uh one
thing i just wanted to start with, which I don't think
has been touched on yet. And just feel free anything you're not comfortable with. I mean,
you seem really good with questions. You seem like you don't have a problem with questions. But if
you're not comfortable, obviously, feel free to skip over any questions you might get today.
I was really interested in just starting from the beginning with you. You have an interesting
history that we are aware of, but I wanted to know,
wanted to kind of start in childhood, touch on this Stargate thing, and then go from there.
So if you could tell us a bit about your childhood.
I'm wondering, did you have any childhood experiences with the phenomenon,
what your family history is like?
Do you have family in the military and intelligence agencies
and that kind of thing. Yeah, that's a whole bunch to process right there, but I guess I'll
just start with the Stargate stuff. Yeah, absolutely. When I was a kid, I was getting
pulled out of class and brought into the library at my grammar school. And what I now know to be the Monroe Institute's remote viewing protocols
are what we were in the practice of in my youth,
but they weren't being honest with me when I was a child,
so I didn't really know what was going on when I was a kid.
So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot to be said for, you know, what is consciousness and how does it truly engage with our environment.
And, you know, our government agencies have a history of, you know, investing money in these things.
Danny Jones interviewed a gentleman by the name of David Morehouse, if I remember correctly.
And, you know, he was one of the remote viewers from way back in the day with these programs.
And he's the first person I've ever seen speak publicly that stated that these programs were working with children.
So, yeah, I mean, this stuff happens.
It's part of the reason why I'm public is, you know, more light does need to be shine on the fact that these
programs a did exist and b are most likely still ongoing so we we have a responsibility as adults
to do right by the children of this planet for sure fringe can i step in with a follow-up question absolutely go ahead um eric i've heard um it makes sense that you're a gateway
kid um and so many people have have claimed to be gateway you know been selected for the gateway
program it almost feels like if somebody has walked through a gate that they think that they're a gateway person.
I've heard some, some really anomalous things about people who were legitimately in the gateway program. And they, they seem to have like different protocols sometimes. Do you, do you mind sharing?
And it doesn't have to be anomalous or high strangeness, but do you, do you mind sharing
like anything that stood out to you that was different from your regular classrooms?
Or anything that was sort of weird, missing records, something like that?
I don't know about missing records and such.
As far as different types of protocols go, what I can say is I once observed, I'm trying to find the link for it.
It's got to be out there somewhere.
But there was a YouTube video I came across once where Major Ed Dames was going through a remote viewing process with his son.
And that process that they were going through was the process that I used to do in my youth where we would utilize what's called an ideogram, which is like scribbling a line on the paper.
And then going through a series of questions where you then take the writing implement, pen, pencil, whatever it is, and put it to the ideogram and then proceed to start answering the questions.
and then proceed to start answering the questions.
And in that activity, remote viewing occurs.
Eric, was it your sense that your parents were aware
that you were in a program that was at least PSI-related?
Absolutely not.
I do not believe that my parents were properly informed
to the activities that I was partaking in.
What do you make of that?
And how do you feel about it?
And have you spoken with your,
had a chance to speak with your parents about them?
I've spoken with my father in depth on this topic and
he has confirmed that he was not aware of what was going on at the time and it uh disturbs him
greatly and it disturbs me greatly um what adults will do to children unbeknownst to the parents or
the child so yeah no this this is deeply concerning stuff um i mean this is the doom room we love
deeply concerning top conversations um so we don't have to dig deep on this but if you if you feel
open to saying more um why you think it's concerning uh i think it's it's very much in the
zeitgeist right now with um dick baker and the psionic you know egg-shaped retrievals a lot of us are curious
of like what what did what did these programs look like if if you wouldn't mind speaking a
little bit more to that great segue um you'll hear team baker and such refer to um people in in the psionic assets programs as captives slash recruits.
It's an interesting line of demarcation.
So to me, there's a lot of nefarious activities going on
with what appear to be captives in one breath and recruits on the other,
depending on, you know, if the camera's on or off, I guess. Nobody apparently gets to see the
psionic assets in whatever state of captivity slash recruitment state they might be in. So I find the fact that all of this is being secreted away
as a clear indication that these people
certainly aren't treated properly
or there'd be a greater level of transparency.
That's definitely an implication,
especially when you hear accounts such as,
and sorry, I'm going to control my notifications.
I've been running away from the filter settings.
It seems to be the case, especially when you listen to Whitley Strieber, his account of what seems to be like blatant abuse to trigger some sort of trauma and psychic higher psychic absorption potential.
The when when you allude to captives, it makes me wonder what what makes you think caused you to be
selected? Do you think it was something intellectual, like analytically, like an IQ test? Do you think
it was something more personality, like openness, creativity? Or do you think it was something genetic, something having
to do with races, blood type? What's your best sense? I was a kid and they were lying to me at
the time. I have no idea the process that was being applied to me that's that's the frustrating part is you know you know
no one's no one's telling the truth in these equations it's it's plausible deniability you
know to the umpteenth level and do was there are you able to recall anything that would would fall
squarely in the realm of abuse, emotional abuse?
Or is it just hard to remember?
Oh, no, there's tons of stuff that I recall.
But, I mean, there's no sense in beating a dead horse.
Was there psychological abuse?
Absolutely.
Was there physical abuse?
Absolutely.
Was there sexual abuse?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You know, but only lunatics need to hear the
details um i mean i i i'm not asking you to reveal them when you don't want to but i may be one of
those lunatics have you have you talked about any any of any of that stuff on on any other podcasts because for for me personally um you know there's
abuse is rampant and it's it's horrible um but the the connection you know when when we talk about
creating mancurian candidates and everything and opening up side potential the there's clearly a
connection there but the mechanism and why it's still it's it's still such
a weird enigma to me do you know what i'm saying like what for for for people who wanted to
understand more um and why this is still this seems to be systemic and still you know ritualistic
where where would you point us what would you have as research
MKUltra trauma induced mind control is the terms they use historically now
you'll see like folks like team barber talking about psionic assets being
introduced to stress inoculation it's the same thing they're inducing stress they're causing
harm so to say putting the the um the captive slash recruit in a circumstance that's you know
traumatic or uh stress inoculating as they like to put it.
So there's something to be said for this process that you can put a human, their psyche,
you know, whatever terms we can, you know, conclude work for these conversations.
But there's something that some people have been investing copious amounts of money in for decades to learn about, and it seems to be consciousness, is a lot more complex but more wholly understood by small factions of our society who are gatekeeping that information from the rest of the majority.
Eric, thank you so much for indulging my questions.
We don't wait. We don't do any small talk here.
So for the poor souls who will have to rewind the cassette tape and listen to the recording,
have mercy on them and send them a DM with the space going on.
There are 67 people in the space right now,
only seven likes and only seven retweets.
So it should be 760 likes and retweets for the number of people we have in
here.
Please DM it.
And to the 18 intelligence agencies listening anonymously,
please also forward it to your friends and French. Thanks for letting me interject. Absolutely. Jump in anytime. Sarah, jump in
anytime. So Eric, thank you. Thank you for that. Eric, I think I've seen in the past,
and it's been brought up to me that there are professional remote viewers who I have a lot of respect for who deny that there were any children
in the Stargate program. I will also say I have been convinced there were children involved in
the Stargate program. There's just too much there there. I've had personal conversations with
more than one person who has, she, this one one particular person she has way too many details
she has way too many names she has years and dates and way too much history this person I'm
close with she is not a liar and she's not the only reason I've been convinced that there was
a high side of this program where your military and professionals were involved.
And that high side wasn't, you know, all that kosher, but there was also a low side. And this
is a side where they were recruiting kids for this program. I'm convinced of it. And I appreciate
you being here telling the story. Not everyone is willing to tell this story. So thank you.
Can I ask how old you were, where this took place, and if you're willing to tell me what school you were going to, if you remember?
Pretty much, I mean, it's the way I look at it.
It's almost like aspects of some sort of program have been being applied so i just think
you know if you want to say stargate program officially um that would have been in my grammar
school um as far as where it happened i'll be as specific as long island new york um greater
specificity not being provided because i'm just not looking to put like everybody else that I was there with on blast, you know,
like once, you know, it's just, yeah, it just doesn't, it doesn't seem necessary unless we're
going to start actually looking at the topic with more people. I don't, I don't know that
greater clarification right now is going to do anything other than shine a light on people that are more victimized than the actual culprits.
And Eric, can you tell me what year that was about?
That would have been early 80s, I guess you would say it started.
Okay, thanks. And I agree with you. I think Stargate was an umbrella program. At least that's the way I understand it. It was an umbrella program. There
were many programs underneath it. Some of them were black programs. And I think they were
recruiting kids. I know not everybody believes that. I think I have reason to believe it. So
we can leave it there.
Is there anything you want to add there?
You want to talk about the protocols you were doing?
What made you recognize?
Did you recognize it in the moment?
Did you know what the goals were in the moment, or did you just recognize it later?
Like, oh, hey, that's what I used to do when I was in gate at school.
Totally did not recognize it until later on.
As a child, again, I cannot emphasize,
they were not telling me what they were up to.
So like in my brain at the time as a child,
I thought of going to the library like it was like bizarro world, like there's
Superman and then there's bizarro Superman and bizarro world where everything's just like not
right. So I went to a very old school regimented Catholic school, very German Irish community,
right is right and wrong is wrong. And you get smacked for being wrong. When I went to the library, nothing made sense
because it was like this environment of like, you know,
whatever you say is right, whatever you think is right.
Just like speak your mind, speak it quickly.
Don't think too much.
Just let us know what you're thinking and that's right.
So it was super confusing at the time because it did it it didn't
meet logic and reason to me at all at the time and i i was cognizant of that but it was still
something that i had to figure out how to just you know follow follow what i'm being told to do
like that was that was still understood in my like follow what I'm being told to do. Like that was, that was still
understood in my, like, do what you're being told to do, figure out what they expect of you and do
it, or you're probably going to get smacked. Yeah, you probably will get smacked, Eric. Okay.
Did they ever remove you from school or did most of these activities take place at school?
move you from school or did most of these activities take place at school?
They totally had activities happen off school property, usually under the auspices of being
a religious retreat. And then we would go to other facilities where I would say, I mean,
just to put it simply, atrocities would occur that no child should have
to go through. Yeah, I have to agree with you there, Eric. I've heard about some of those
atrocities. Can you say as a kid, when you were taken to these, I'm assuming you were part of
these retreats, when you were at these retreats, were these teachers,
were they people you recognized? Did you see military people? Were there other adults you
did not recognize? Who was running the retreats? We pretty much got handed off to whoever was in
charge of the facility by what I would, to the best of my recollection, would just
say was, you know, whoever the volunteer parents were for that particular event, that retreat.
One of the facilities I remember going to is actually of historical significance significance it's a facility that was uh the term was called inish fada it was
gaelic and that term meant um long island and it was owned and operated by the brady family who was
one of the richest families in the united states at the time of the construction of this property
it was the fourth largest residence in the entirety of the United States. And the Brady family was
heavily connected to the Jesuits. The Jesuits eventually got this property and in that capacity
were operating it as the St. Ignatius Loyola Retreat House. And that was a place that, yes, I used to frequent as a child on these retreats.
And there was not necessarily great activity going on for children.
Unfortunately, it's a story that's being told every day. Eric, did you have any siblings?
Do you have siblings?
I do.
And were they in gate?
I'm not going to speak for anybody else in this conversation but me.
And that's fair enough.
So my other follow-up questions that I asked you in the beginning,
you in the beginning did you have any experiences with the phenomenon as a
did you have any experiences with the phenomenon as a child?
child and do you have any family who had experiences or any family in
intelligence or in the military I do have recollections as a child of things
outside my window that were peculiar lights almost almost seemed to me like disco lights were outside my window
and then as far as um peculiar folks in the past um i'm doing research on my own grandfather
who appears to me to be some sort of uh sympathizer during World War II,
had associations with what was referred to as the German-American Bund,
and had a very interesting military career for the United States during World War II
that had him down in South America, actually, which is extremely peculiar.
South America actually which is extremely peculiar and yeah I mean I'm I'm I think my whole past path
is extremely peculiar and I'm doing due diligence to try to connect the dots to the big picture of
you know what's peculiar in you know the disclosure community contemporarily because there's a lot of folks in these conversations
that seem to be on very short leashes
because there's a lot of controlling of the narrative.
So I guess I'm just trying to come in as a rogue wave,
hopefully, to set things straight
because there's a lot of information that I think is making to the community that's manufactured by
co-intel operatives, like just counterintelligence
folks straight up seem to be filling most of the
conversation spaces that I see. And it's very frustrating to have had
an actual life experience, you know, up to and including what I discovered
at South Pole Station,
went to Washington, D.C. to testify in two separate skiffs
for the Senate Intelligence Committee and for Arrow,
and watching what's going on in the disclosure communities,
very concerning because there seems to be a lot of investment
in controlling the conversation and who seems to get the spotlight and what the majority of the community seems to get to converse about.
Well, Eric.
I just don't want us to overlook the SCIF stuff.
We definitely will not overlook the SCIF stuff.
I hear the word SCIF and my mind is stuck i was really hoping to cover a little bit
of ground before we get to the skiff stuff but i definitely have it written down and you're free
to go back to that ulrich um okay let's wrap we can wrap up the stargate thing um by the way eric
you would be not you would be surprised if you knew how many uh experiencers for lack of a better term have
a grandfather maybe a nazi sympathizer or just a nazi involved in world war ii it's actually
fascinating how many of us are out there with that weird little connection so thanks for that
um all right crissera do you have anything else on this topic or eric do you want to jump in with
anything we didn't cover on the Stargate thing?
Eric, I'm going to let you go first, my man.
I'm golden.
I'm ready for questions.
Makes it so easy for me.
We're already there, aren't we?
We're already at Nazis and Aliens Fringe.
Oh, yeah.
It's all about the nazis and the aliens um i mean uh i i'm on i'm unleashed the the over kraken has been unleashed
so you you have to reel me in fringe uh no no i'm good i wanted to hear about the stargate thing
um but yeah i mean i definitely wanted to hear about the Navy stuff and all of that, but I'm, I'm free to jump around.
Go ahead, Ulrich.
Um, Eric, what can you please share as liberally and ideally a bit more than liberally?
What have you uncovered in your research?
Uh, and let's, and let's just, let's just say it out loud.
We can say it together, right?
Like Hitler didn't kill himself at the end of
world war ii he went to argentina and he's roaming around mustache free or am i wearing a tinfoil tinfoil
hat i believe that that information was recently disclosed from the current president of Argentina. So I believe that baby's been put to bed.
Or woken up.
Do you mind sharing what you've discovered?
I didn't discover that.
I mean, everybody has suspected that Hitler probably didn't die.
But this was just information that just came out recently.
But it certainly bodes well for the conversation of how long super nefarious activities have been occurring down in the greater South America area and also Antarctica.
Yeah, I meant there was recently we have have uh jason georgiani on next week and on
the on the danny jones podcast he talked about a little bit about his take on what he thinks
hitler's role was that he was sort of put out to pasture that uh he imagines hitler or i think he
says you know hitler's's girlfriend broke up with him,
sort of lived a miserable life in Argentina.
But what is, and it doesn't have to be about Hitler,
I'm saying, what have you uncovered in your own research
in terms of your family's pedigree?
What are you able to share, willing to share?
Because I don't think it's a stretch here
that our Antarctica whistleblower
is now researching the connections to you know hitler nazi connections in argentina and then
that that's not a that's not a leap there right we we're we're so close here to uh nazi aliens antarctica uh ufo tech you know nordic communication can you can you just help
tie this bow to me or like where are the gaps and and what what things are you interested in what
are you trying to figure out because i think we're all going to have to go back with our history
teachers and relearn the 20th century in terms of what really happened what what things are you looking into
relearning all of the 20th century because everything we were taught was a lie and far be it from me to be able to encapsulate that into a couple of paragraphs as to what really occurred. That's asking a bit much.
Well, it is asking a bit much, and it's an unfair question, but Eric, if you'll indulge me,
dance with me. I pretty much only ask unfair questions, and just do your best. I want to
have the crazy conversation in this room because I don't see other people having it.
in this room because i don't see other people having it fair enough i mean i'll i'll just i
guess be as concise as possible and pull it apart as much as you want right like you don't have to
be concise this is the doom room we've got cameras and boomer strapped on we're ready for the long
haul i don't think it's far-fetched for everybody to consider that hitler might be one of the most evil people from history. So with that being said,
we're now learning that that person was lied about and covered up. There had to be
a certain amount of people completely involved with that that's a bigger number than people
would want to believe. But if we live in a society
where that type of person is covered up for what other things are they willing to cover up
i mean that's what i've learned that's direct first-hand experience that we're all going
through together if something like that can be covered up if the most evil person in history debatably
was given a pass right under our noses what else are they covering up
why i'm just gonna be messy here i'm reckless uh also the pharmacy has delayed my Vyvan subscription, so I take zero responsibility for the fact
that I can't control myself.
But why do you think we're in Antarctica?
And obviously, Antarctica has some unique geomagnetic properties, some unique geographic
properties.
I think there's clear skies.
I think there's clear skies.
It makes sense for astronomical reasons.
It makes sense for astronomical reasons.
But beyond the regular stuff we get from TV and the NASA Twitter profile, what the fuck are we doing in Antarctica?
Hiding directed energy weapons systems at the South Pole Station um because who's gonna do anything about it
and um all right so i get it's a great place to hide things but you know i mean we brought up
nazis so we had to bring up aliens and we brought up argentina and we brought up antarctica
So we had to bring up aliens and we brought up Argentina and we brought up Antarctica.
Do you think that country, that continent, do you think it belongs to humans?
Because I think the reason why we're enforcing that no other countries can go there, even though no other country has the legal right to enforce anything because it doesn't belong to a country.
I think that giant piece of land, I think it doesn't belong to humans.
What do you think? Am I crazy here?
You can speculate however you want.
I mean, until we're told otherwise,
it appears to be part of the planet Earth,
which is under the purview of humanity,
and there are certain contracts amongst those humans
that are signed in the way that they are.
But what do you think, Eric?
Who do you think Antarctica belongs to?
Of the only people that we are currently aware of that exist in the conversation?
You don't think that there's like a Nordic
faction up there that
like New Schwabenland
do you think, and I'm
asking the crazy questions, but only half jokingly
does Antarctica
belong to the real Nazis?
You can keep asking
the question, I'm going to keep giving the same answer.
Okay. Okay. And Sarah, feel free to jump in here. Yeah. So some quick questions. How many other
countries exist on Antarctica other than the United States?
other than the United States? As far as signers on the Antarctic Treaty,
I don't know the current number, but I do know that the current Antarctic Treaty should be
expiring soon, and I think it'll be very interesting to see what winds up happening
over there. Okay. What do we, I guess what we're kind of getting at is Antarctica is definitely in ufology lore.
Is it true that after the World War II or even before World War II, the Nazis did go over to Antarctica?
And did you see any evidence of that while you were there?
It's my understanding that that's very historically referenceable, that the Nazis had great presence in the Antarctic continent prior to and during World War II. No one was wearing their uniforms at the Adminson Scott International South Pole Station.
But again, it was staffed by folks from countries from all over the world.
But they wore the uniforms of the Antarctic Program.
from like every nation that also had previous military affiliations
of a variety of sorts?
Absolutely.
But this is, you know, what's going on in these remote locations
is what's being presented as science through the, you know,
wonderful use of compartmentalization of information and plausible deniability.
You can put someone in one uniform and say they're no longer operating under the role of their other uniform right now.
Okay. So you were there. You were working on all of the equipment. You were a fireman. You had keys to every of the most high-tech stuff that you've
witnessed. Like, are we talking that the technology that you saw or heard of being used today,
has it been used for decades? Like, you know what I mean? Like, is this brand new equipment
that's just being used within the last 15 years?
Or are we talking like this has been going on for quite a while?
Well, obviously, the facility went in in 1957 was when the South Pole Station first became occupied and construction began.
And obviously, you know know things get added and taken
away and refurbished and stuff but in particular for the year that i was there from 2000 november
of 2010 to november of 2011 uh the ice cube neutrino detector array the the Ice Cube Laboratory, the elevated station went from construction phase
to operations and maintenance. So at that time, those items were considered brand new
and now would have been in operation for 15 years.
for 15 years. Okay. And so I guess what I'm trying to get at is, do you find that the buildings that
you worked at, the treaty that was signed, that the United States are in control and are the ones
that are the boss, basically? Or do you find that it was, it is maybe someone else who is in control,
conceivably in NHI, conceivably leftover Operation Paperclip, conceivably, you know,
pre-World War II Nazis. I'm trying to understand the historical
aspect of Antarctica before, obviously decades before you got there.
aspect of antarctica before obviously decades before you got there
like i can't speak for decades before i got there i can only speak for the time that i was there
and as communicated um to the senate intelligence committee and arrow in washington dc
we don't seem to know who is actually in control.
When you said, when you prefaced this question, it was like the government.
We don't even know if the government's in control of what's going on.
It's possible that the government issues the contract to the third party who's running everything,
but maybe the government doesn't actually know what they're actually doing out there there therein lies the problem
is that a lot of these factions have gone so black that there's no longer any oversight they're just
completely rogue and doing whatever they want to do how How do we, the people, reel this back in
now that our own government knows
that they've created aspects
that they themselves no longer have oversight
or control of?
What do we do?
The Constitution said something about tyranny
and what the people should do.
you know, for people that are, in my opinion, born into this world or even just this country,
you know, that's what they think is going on, that the Constitution is just sort of a party
favor for the United States. And, you know, basically, oh, it's fun to think about.
My question to you is regarding the idea that that doesn't even
probably exist anymore. And we can clearly see that happening every day now presently.
What is the intention of Antarctica? If, you know, I don't see anything changing with our
government to, you know, bring any light to what you experienced or what is actually happening in Antarctica.
It seems as though there's a completely different body that's in control there.
Well, the answer is very easy.
They're doing due diligence to cover up the information that's going on in regards to the actual activities of Antarctica
while they're trying to push forward a controlled narrative of other nonsense that's unsubstantiated speculation. I mean, the Arrow summary report
that came out publicly, there was a gentleman that stated with great clarity that there were
reports of victims of Havana syndrome symptoms from every single continent except for Antarctica.
That's what they said.
That's a lie.
I know it because I went and testified with great specificity about the victims of directed energy weapons suffering Havana syndrome from Antarctica.
So they're lying.
I mean, this is ridiculous at this point.
It is absolutely ridiculous.
I have other questions, but they aren't on this topic.
Doomer and Fringe, I'll send it back to you.
No, go ahead, Orc.
I would be next on the Arrow stuff, Fringe.
So take it, the Skiff and Arrow stuff.
So take it wherever you want to take it.
Yeah, go ahead, Aura.
Eric, the testimonies you gave,
I would love your thoughts on why we can't get Luna Bear and Birchette
into a skiff with Grushy Bear, with David Grush.
And I would love to know who can you...
So you said one SCIF was with the Senate Intelligence Committee,
the other one was with Arrow.
So if you could comment on the typical disclosure faces we see on TV
and what is the impediment to just getting these people in a room,
the SCIF room. And then two, what was your experience like for each of those testimonies?
And include your take on Arrow in that.
And let me know if you want me to repeat any of those questions.
and uh eric just letting you know i'm not i'm not hearing you you might still be muted on your end
did we lose the cia uh messing with my ipad did we lose eric no i don't hear eric so eric if
you're talking it's your your mic is not open uh maybe he has temporarily step away
and maybe he'll have to recycle himself so we'll see um i definitely want to
i definitely want eric to be able to i know that most of us have already
heard his story but i do want him to be able to cover his story again in general and then
obviously get into these areas of the skiff and arrow i also have a ton of questions for eric
if we get them back if you are in the audience and you're listening and you have a question for
eric please put your request in and we will be getting to you so eric welcome back i'm not sure if you were talking
during that time i was doing the phone call but then it jammed up so now i'm going to pee anyhow
um yeah uh fringe do you want me to repeat my question or do you want to
do you want to just yeah no he he might need you to repeat your question.
Yeah.
So, Eric, my interest is in your experience giving your testimony in the two SCIFs, one to the Senate Intelligence Committee and the other one to Arrow.
committee and the other one to Arrow.
My questions to you are, what do you
make of the fact that it seems as though Burchette and Luna
have yet to be able to join Grush, David Grush, in a skiff?
So what do you make of that whole thing?
And then I want to know what your experience was like
for each of those two skiffs.
And my third question is your full take on Arrow.
You know, I think we're being sabotaged.
I think somebody is calling Eric because my questions are so good, French.
I'm quite certain.
I'm quite certain that's it.
We'll wait.
I think you know what it's like when you get a phone call in the space.
It's always the CIA, and they're always calling at the worst moment.
Whoever's calling Eric's phone, can you just tune into the space and start sharing it and start paying my cell phone bills?
Because my battery keeps on draining. And Eric,
whenever we have you back, I'll repeat the questions again.
Yeah. So we've lost Eric to listener.
He probably is getting another phone call or he's stepped out temporarily, but I'm sure we'll get him back. So what do you guys think so far?
I think the Stargate stuff is interesting.
I'm always wanting to start in the beginning and, you know, hear the whole story.
But I understand that most people don't care about that part.
They just want to hear about neutrinos, which I'm totally fine with.
I think a lot of people have heard the story.
They already have the background and all that kind of stuff.
So here I think we have Eric back.
So let's see if your mic's working, Eric.
Can you hear me now? We mic's working, Eric. Can you hear me now?
We can hear you, Eric.
And this happens all the time.
Yeah, X-Bases apparently is not that great.
Yeah, but also the more disruptive the information, the more interruptions you get.
It's a good sign.
We hear, we like the war, and we like the fight.
So welcome back, Eric. No worries. I'll keep trying to get back in if it keeps happening yeah yeah and if it's the cia calling you just send them a link to the space and tell them to
tune in and we'll just bring them up as speaker you know what i mean we let give them a voice um
eric the the question i had for you is what do you make of Burchette and Luna still not being able to enter a space with David Grush?
What was your experience like testifying in both SCIFs, the Senate Intelligence one and the one with Arrow?
And what's your take on Arrow?
As far as other people and their interactions, I have no idea.
actions i have no idea as far as my take on arrow it was a total con job that gathered a whole bunch
of information from real whistleblowers and now is working with their own controlled narrative agents
regurgitating the information that they repackaged and now are disseminating through Baker and crew
wait a second wait a school you gave me so much juice we have to make it into a cocktail so let's
go in reverse order Baker is an extension of arrow. Am I understanding you correctly?
Let's go back real quickly to what was stated on Jesse Michael's show by Baker himself.
He went to the same Washington, D.C. event that I went to as a whistleblower, except the role that he was in was to gather intel on whistleblowers to either a facilitate
an arrest by the fbi or b according to the words of dr greer given in his words on the danny jones
show that baker was there to potentially perform wet work are we are we talking about barber here
eric i think we should just let's just make sure we get the right name yeah well hold on they're actually both guilty of this
because jake jake jake barber and fred baker were two folks that are now part of the sky watcher
team that went to the washington dc event to do that to the whistleblowers.
Fred Baker sat at a dinner table with me.
I guess he was assigned to me.
But now all of a sudden, the general population is having these people presented to them
as the caretakers of truth. I find it to be patently ridiculous.
So Eric, regarding that, that's a fantastical statement. And I totally can understand
where that's coming from seeing as what they did when they, their original intentions of being at
the Greer meeting. But here they are coming off to everyone as, you know,
oh, if you're a PSI asset, come in NCS,
and we're going to bring down.
What is their actual, what, in your opinion,
is their actual reasoning?
Like, are they gathering up PSI assets for an army?
Are they?
They're doing the exact same thing that arrow did to get them their
first batch of information now they need the next chapter so they're just simply putting out nets
to pull information in that's all these alien conventions seem to be that's all they're just
they're just finding out what people know and they're regurgitating it through the people that
they can spotlight and put on the platforms and. And it's just the definition of controlling the narrative.
This is co-intel pro through and through.
This is something our government has been good at for many, many decades.
It's just controlling the conversation by inserting the right personalities.
the right personalities. Heck, during the Obama administration, we had the NDAA signed that
tolerated the federal government subsidizing the news. What do people think that means,
subsidizing the news? It means they get to pay to have stories written. It means they get to
fabricate fiction and put it in the mass media for people to consume as if it's the truth.
It's called misinformation and disinformation.
How they control the narrative.
And it's not just one.
It wasn't just Obama.
I mean, we're talking pretty much every president oversees this and allows this to happen.
Am I correct in that? I would not argue that all administrations
have partaken in it.
It's of particular note
that this administration mentioned
made it legal.
And who used that phrase,
subsidizing the news
uh the the wording of the literature of the the wording of the ndaa
um that's interesting i'll i'll look into that um i just want to give people some some context so barber was recounting
his original uh original role which which was essentially to intercede on and prevent
whistleblowing and when you use the term wet works let's let's use really plain language here
use the term wet works let's let's use really plain language here um is it is it your understanding
that barker's job was to eliminate meaning kill um ufo disclosure witnesses that's my understanding
of what that term means and these are the statements coming from the folks involved in
that event that i attended so i can only take them for the words as they're
presenting that there was investigations for potential arrests and potential wet works as
an option on the table and but again um again now let's consider that these are the people that are now being put on a pedestal
for being engaged in being the whistleblower now.
What an interesting leap from one position to another.
If you can't kill him, whistleblow with him.
So do you believe, do you acceptbara's recounting of the moment when he's at
greer's disclosure event and he's being moved i think specifically by michael herrera's testimony
to switch sides um do you accept this do you think it's it's genuine and i just wanted to
give people the context that that's that's the the account you're referring to from the Jesse Michaels show.
Easy answer is hell no.
What was so compelling from Herrera's testimony that Barber, of his own statements, wasn't already cognizant of and partaking in the activity, thus making him an accessory?
There was absolutely nothing new presented. Okay. Sorry. I'll record. Yeah, go ahead, Sarah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just,
I'm trying to wrap my head around and maybe you can help me unravel this. So you have Barber who,
okay, so he's an inside op, the whole thing's an op he's bringing
in all of these assets now are
they is he is he doing this to
make a list just a list
like as if we were talking about the Marvel
Universe and we're talking comic book
issue number blah blah blah Civil
War where the government in the Marvel
Universe wants now a list of all of
the you know
you know Spider-Man and all of them just to know who has these abilities and who doesn't.
So is he just here to conjure up a list of all of the people who have abilities?
Or is he doing these types of things to not only create a list of these people that have abilities, but eventually use these people that
have these abilities later on. And in my, the way I'm looking at it, and this sounds absolutely
insane, is quite possibly to build an army of psi assets. The more you have, the more you can
control with the telepathic, you know, psi ability. These would be better questions posed in his direction. What he's up to doesn't seem to be genuine by my observations. Yeah, I mean, I believe he should be getting a lot more scrutiny than he is getting.
Yeah, he's not one to meet with anyone outside of the inner circle of soft disclosure.
Yeah, I know, because after the DC event, he reached out to me through back channels.
So did Ross Coldhart.
So did David Grush.
But because I didn't want to play ball, as they like to put it, you know, I told him, I said, my information stands on its own. I don't need you to support my information, even though they were stating, I support your information, Eric.
But they wanted me to support theirs also, which I refused to do.
So I'm not in the cool kids club.
Just like Jason Sands, who decided to come out to all of us and not do the route that was put in front of him with keeping his mouth shut and just being in a documentary, et cetera, et cetera.
You are coming out and having your voice heard to the people.
And I appreciate that.
Thank you, Eric.
um arrow are you one of the as arrow likes to phrase them interviewees in the arrow report
and do you mind disclosing your interviewing number
i i was and i i don't know my number
if if you um go through the report at some point and it doesn't have to be now, after the Doom Room, and you figure out which number you are, do you mind sharing it with us?
DMing it, posting it in the comments?
Because I find it pretty interesting.
We found out that Jason Sands was an Arrow interviewee.
I think at one point I figured out which number it was.
But you can easily find out
more blatantly the lies it's easier to pin arrow down when you know when you can put a name to the
these interviewees if they self-disclose and you can also request jason sands has requested it
michael herrera already requested his you can uh request your original original interview with them.
I have officially put that request in, but until they send me any information, I have no idea what my number would be.
Not for all interviewees, but some you can sort of figure it out on the report based on the asterisks and the footnotes and the testimonies that are correlated to the interviewees.
What report are you referring to?
The error report back from March, what was it, 2024?
The first one that we got.
I believe they omitted my information.
Oh, really? Why do you think they omitted it and what because they're lying but what did they tell you they didn't they
told you that they didn't tell me anything that's what i'm saying you're telling me
check with stuff they gave me no stuff and told me nothing they just lied I am I'm sorry
they they're such lying Fox Eric the okay and so the skip you had with with
arrow what do you think it arrows up to now is it just the regular gaslighting
brochure somebody's working on the next arrow is
working with jake barbara and his crew to control the narrative of the ufo topic and to mislead
everybody like a bunch of pied pipers and lemmings and they're doing an excellent job of it
i wanted to jump in or real quick since we're on that topic. That's one of my questions. What is the narrative you see as, what's the narrative right now coming from them as you see it, Eric?
We don't have this technology. We've never had this technology. And that's the bold face lie that they're trying to cover up is that mankind and many factions have not been wielding technology that far surpasses what the average mortgage
payer gets to play with. Ah, got it. Okay. I was a little bit confused because they do seem to be
kind of in the Greer camp now. So I was definitely confused on what that narrative
was. So I appreciate that. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, no, I pretty much asked everything.
Oh, no, I pretty much asked everything.
I guess my, so if we had Arrow and if we had Barbara in the same space,
what questions would you want to ask them,
either to reveal where they stand or if you could get an honest answer from them?
Like, what should we be asking Arrow and Barbara right now?
What was so compelling
about herrera's testimony that you decided to take everything in your life that you had previously
invested in and simply throw it away and and what about arrow specifically because this is this is
juicy stuff this is new i didn't realize that that there's an alliance with Arrow and Barber.
Would you confront them on, would you confront, beyond confronting Arrow on the existence of an NHI presence?
What else should we be asking?
I would ask them why they omitted my testimony from their report regarding activities in Antarctica,
most specifically to the victims of the United States Antarctic Program
that seem to be medically negatively impacted through proximity
to technologies that they're covering up for.
Can you say more about the impact?
Is it the IceCube neutrino detector, or is there another technology that caused this health issue?
I imagine that the other item that negatively impacted the health of the people in proximity was the ELF system.
And is that a separate technology from the neutrino detector?
It is a completely separate system.
So it's not located in the same module. It's somewhere else.
It's located at the South Pole Station.
They are their own antenna arrays.
The IceCube neutrino detector is itself a kilometer by a kilometer by a kilometer.
The ELF system, albeit a separate system and a massive, probably miles-long antenna array embedded in the ice also.
I never actually saw a layout of the ELF to my recollection.
They may overlap. I'm not certain.
But again, they're still technically separate systems.
Thank you, Eric.
Fringe, I'm a fan from starting from the very beginning,
so we're right there.
If you want to take it to the beginning,
we can totally do that.
No, I'm pretty flexible, Eric.
You've already said several things today
just in this space.
It definitely did not come out in your other interviews,
so I really appreciate you being here. I did want to just very briefly touch on
what you did in the Navy, for the Navy, where you enlisted, et cetera, and then just get straight to
being a contractor for Raytheon. Everything you saw there, anything you want to tell us that
hasn't been covered in any of the other interviews, get into the technology you saw, and then, and that's just the start of where
I want to go. Sure. The time that I spent in the Navy started in 1994. I did not have some
magnificent career in the service, but regardless, I had time in, so it is my experience.
Peculiar things did occur to me when I was in the Navy in regards to associates with
Raytheon. I had another experience where I had some lost time, but for the sake of brevity,
because you just wanted to get to the other topic, I forget where you said you wanted to go with this.
Oh, that's right, Eric. You know, those types of things are always very interesting to me because it seems like
people like you, they don't just happen.
You know, you didn't just happen to be in Antarctica, you know, seeing the stuff you
saw.
There's always a history.
There's always a childhood history.
There's always family history.
There's always, like you just mentioned, apparently missing time potentially in the
Navy. There's always a history you just mentioned, apparently missing time potentially in the Navy.
There's always a history there. It doesn't just happen. It almost seems orchestrated to me. So
those are details I'm always interested in that other people might not be. Were you on duty,
off duty during the missing time incident? And you don't need to heavily go into it. I'm just
curious about it. Oh, no worries. And you are right. It is extremely peculiar how all of these things interconnect because now going back to remote viewing,
there's information coming to light about how a lot of the remote viewing
studies had to do with figuring out ways to communicate with submariners. So again,
was I being programmed as a child for an activity that I was being slated for in the future in the
submarine service? Hard to say. I'm working on connecting those dots. As far as the lost time event goes,
it happened at the New London train station. I was officially off service at the time,
but I did have circumstance where I met a peculiar gentleman who was feigning to be the executive officer of one of the boats in dock there in the lower subbase.
And, you know, it was all shenanigans.
But long story short, I did wind up losing 20 minutes in communication with that person.
So that new, you were at, were you at the Groton nuclear base there for submarines?
That's correct.
Yeah, that's where my father was.
When I had my very first experience with the phenomenon, my father was actually deployed
on a nuclear submarine right outside of Groton submarine base.
Interesting.
Okay, so you were in the Navy and you had some interesting experiences there.
And then how'd you end up becoming a contractor for Raytheon?
I was looking for work online
and came across a job that was posted
out of Centennial, Colorado.
And then when they contacted me back,
they informed me that in reality,
the jobs were in Antarctica.
And I wound up getting a position at South Pole Station for a summer
season by contract and during my summer season I officially got my winter contract and wound
up staying there for an entire year. Perfect and so what do you want to tell us about that year? I
know it's been covered before but I think it would be awesome just to kind of go through it again. Mostly just that there's three directed energy weapons systems that
I came across in my experience. I brought that information to Washington, D.C., and I'm learning
that the disclosure community is a freaking landmine. It's a minefield of just trying to figure out who's actually interested
in the truth and willing to push things forwards versus people that are trying to slow your roll
and blow your legs out from under you. What I'm learning right now is, you know, we always need
to prioritize our problems. And when I first got involved with this disclosure debacle, I really
thought that the information that I had was super important and we needed to deal with it and
prioritize it. But now having tried to get any amount of truth through this disclosure minefield,
I'm learning that first we kind of need to figure out a way to clear a path through the minefield for any truth.
The amount of resistance to the ability for truth to get to the masses appears to me to be more the priority now.
That we, the people, need to always know where to focus our energies to gain ground and i feel like the fight for truth
is um at the front lines right now and people really need to pay very careful attention
to their roles in these activities eric what you just said is at the very heart of what i care about um what truth if you had to
pick one uh if you had and it's unfair if you had to pick one would would you focus on and how
what is your current thinking on how to go about purveying that truth making making that breakthrough there are factions on this planet that have monopolized
technologies that are beyond your wildest dreams and we the people deserve to not be so wholly
deceived um that's basically the problem at hand and and and what do you think we need to do how
do we go about bringing that truth is it is it a blog is it a podcast is an is it an x space
what's what's what's the best tool for disclosure right now uh every single individual needs to start carrying their own fucking weight and doing whatever they think
is best instead of doing what they're told to do.
Thanks, Eric. Sorry, I just had to interject. Jump in there, Sarah.
thanks thanks eric sorry i just had to had an eject jump in there sir
yeah sure i have a question for you eric um in your sean ryan interview you brought up uh gary
mckinnon uh and how he hacked the nasa uh website and found a list of off-world space fleets and the captains of the ship. And then you said very confidently,
we have a fleet out there.
I'm wondering if you could go into more detail about this.
I mean, that's pretty much the details right there.
I mean, Gary McKinnon found the spreadsheet
with the names of the ships and their respective captains and
it makes sense to me that the existence of them would require a means of communication
and the context for which I was bringing it up was the capacity for the iceCube Neutrino Detector Array to be utilized for faster-than-light
quantum-entangled communications.
So it's just kind of like,
what's the term that they use?
Like standing on the shoulders
of those that have come before me,
just giving respect to the information
that he had already released
and taking it a step further?
Okay, yeah. I guess for me, this is the first time that I heard that it was a list of an off-world
space fleet. I had always heard that it was a picture of a UFO, like a perfect 4K, amazing,
you know, picture. So that to me is new. My follow up regarding this is what's your take on that? Do you have any other experience or evidence towards us actually having an off? happened in the early 90s.
That would mean that we've had an off-world space fleet in the 80s, maybe the 70s.
What's your take on this?
Do you stand by it?
Do you think that we have continuously
an off-world space fleet out there?
Yeah, I mean, there's tons of research
from folks out there that have done due diligence,
like...
1954, so we have to consider, you know,
in the 1980s, there was a statement made that, you know,
the military-industrial complex
is gaining ground technologically at a rate of 50 years to one compared to the civilian population.
Well, how long was that going on for?
We do have Tiff who just joined us.
Welcome, Tiff. i think we just lost her
oh rick we just lost her she'll be she'll be back um the the the technologies eric so we'll get into
the ice cube neutrino detector uh and the i think it stands for what extremely low frequency array
um but in terms of the other ones you mentioned that are out of this world
what are we talking about like an uh like over unity use of energy that can just destroy a planet
like a death star something that can completely annihilate the entire universe
Give me give me a scale of like how crazy are we talking?
give me give me a scale of like how crazy are we talking
I'm a fan of let's think about it as crazy as we can and kill until we can reduce down things on the list of
Possibilities that are less probable since they're lying to us currently
We shouldn't trust that they're not hiding anything
trust that they're not hiding anything um specific but everything that we can think of
until proven otherwise like why are they hiding it
but do you do you have any intuitions uh yourself i mean you you are the person who discovered the
ice cube neutrino my intuition is that they're up to no good
or they wouldn't be hiding it and and um what are the possible reasons on the table
for why they're hiding it my my personal belief is that doing doing horrible things
um with the capacity of massive plausible deniability
with the capacity of massive plausible deniability?
Such as trafficking people, using them for psionics?
Such as everything that we can possibly think of
until we can reduce off the table things that don't make so much sense.
I'm simply opening the door to people to consider more possibilities
than they previously considered. I do not want
to start negating any of those possibilities. I think we should consider every single one of them.
This is a whole new chapter of reality that these technologies open up.
Eric, I have a question from the the audience it's one of our technical guys
um who tracks the the over unity technologies and the mh370 case um i'd love to know
what your take is if you know what i'm referring to the orb videos showing uh it's a highly contested video showing three orbs essentially zapping
uh a plane away presumably mh370 and the question i have from this person is about the iscarian
radio array known as ara do you know anything about it does it have a similar um transmitting
function like the ice cube neutrino detector does it cause earthquakes and does it
interface with human consciousness not familiar with this in the slightest
totally fair and have you heard of the um we have to bring this up we're forced to bring up the
words ashton forbes and mh370 on on every ufo x space do you do you have a take on this
uh i interviewed with ashton but he was interviewing me um i don't really follow much of the mh370 stuff to be honest so i wouldn't really wouldn't really have an angle on it i'm
angle on it. I'm not following it. Yeah, totally fair.
not following it yeah totally fair
Eric, since we're talking about this, you know, potential for some off-world capabilities,
do you, I know you're concerned about their motives, but do you think part of their motives
might be this breakaway civilization to get off
world uh just to save themselves from the potential of cataclysmic earth changes um or
what else do you think could be a motive there besides besides your typical normal
stuff that's happening on this planet i don't i don't find this typical or normal.
I mean, it's just deception. It's in a way just enslaving a certain aspect of the population through the monopoly of technology.
So, I mean, that's what's going on.
People can make of it what they wish
and by the way eric uh i think me and and uh doomer and also tiff for sure i'm not sure about
sarah i happen to know that our people have tech beyond our wildest dreams and there's a lot of
times i'm in ufo spaces saying you don't understand that could be actually be arctic and it's almost impossible to tell the difference right here's a perfect
example is the f-117 became operational in like the early 1970s but the general population of
the planet didn't get to become privy to it publicly until around what like 1994-ish 95.
1994-ish, 95.
So up until then, you know, if people saw the activities of an F-117, there would have been many factions involved in convincing that person that what they saw was a UFO.
I mean, we know that Rick Doty operated in this capacity for many years.
years are we to believe that this activity is still not going on you know that there's not just
Are we to believe that this activity is still not going on?
simply you know military planes flying around that we're not going to know about publicly for another
20 years that we currently have agents going yep that's a ufo yep that's a ufo because you know
national security requires us to call it a ufo versus admitting to the technologies that we
currently can wield i mean this is it's what's going on right now in disclosures is completely ridiculous.
This is so scripted it's not even funny.
And just simply, you know, I get that other people may not see it this way,
but as a whistleblower who has themselves gone and met with other whistleblowers,
gone through the process of Arrow, experienced what those engagements bore fruit on,
and then to see how they then spread it out to the community
is just frankly appalling.
And then to watch the community eat it up
with apparently no semblance of discernment
to realize that they're being served a shit sandwich.
I'm quite certain there are people in this room who realize we're being served a shit sandwich,
but thanks, Eric. I happen to agree with you. I can get unpopular sometimes because I will say,
well, you know, it's probably our tech. But that doesn't mean there's no non-human tech.
There is non-human tech. It's just that a lot of what we're seeing out there and dealing with is
human tech. I'm not trying to say there's nothing off we're all about. I'm not going in that
direction at all. I'm open-minded to all possibility exists always, but it appears to me that we're
simply looking at the majority of activity that's been being defined as UFO or contemporarily UAP is in reality just technology that nefarious factions are wielding.
And now they're trying to cover their ass because there's a lot of liability that's going to be laid at the feet of these people that have been involved, these corporations.
at the feet of these people that have been involved, these corporations, and they're
just simply trying to distance themselves or delay the unveiling of all these activities
so they can get their fucking legal cases in order.
Holy shit.
Yeah, I agree with you on that, Eric.
It's unfortunate, but I think that's going to end up on the side of truth there.
So quickly before we get, I think Sarah has a hand up and we're going to get into the neutrino stuff.
Do you, is there any possibility in your mind or in your personal opinion that there is a small
faction of humanity actually trying to develop this tech for our own good, for our own benefit,
for the benefit of humanity?
Or do you see it all or most as just these black tech programs, you know, during their breakaway
civilization stuff? I absolutely have hope and believe that there are always good people also
behind the scenes doing good things and trying to
Follow right thought by right action. I am not a cynic
Absolutely believe that we can win this war on the truth
Just as much as there are bad folks that like
Infiltrating things that are good to try to control the narrative. I also believe that there
are very intelligent, good people that are cognizant of the fact of having to infiltrate
the more shadowy aspects of reality so that we can be properly informed and figure out the right
actions to make. Eric, Fringe asked my question and i was i was being a little bit
manipulative by not asking it i just i don't like to be the guy who asks about the pole shift so
french thank you for for asking my favorite question but we just had uh geomagnetic storms
yesterday that were more severe than they were supposed to be no space Weather Center kept on updating the index, increasing the severity.
Do you have any perspective on the current geomagnetic excursion and the severity of threat it is to this entire planet?
I am not currently aware of the state of the union of the geomagnetic aspects of this planet,
but there is certainly enough reference material for the history that it is an important topic.
I do believe that the geomagnetic aspect of our planet may have a shifting capacity to it it makes sense and it stands to reason that we need to look at a lot of the
history of the geography however you want to put it the plates moving and things like that
as an example currently you know the the antarctic continent currently at the south pole
is for the most part below sea level. If there happened to
be a different continental plate there that wasn't below sea level, it stands to reason that even
more ice could be accumulated, therefore depleting the oceans of the planet, changing sea levels.
There's all kinds of conversations that can be had about the great flood
and what caused it and science to be applied.
So these are wonderful conversations,
and I do believe that there is a serious concern
that the history of our planet and cycles of calamity
are also being hidden from the general population, not just monopoly of technology. Monopoly of information seems to be at the root of all of our problems contemporarily.
but the monopoly of information seems to be at the root of all of our problems.
Would you include amnesia as a form of monopoly on information,
enforced amnesia, wiping of minds?
Would that fall in the same purview of censorship?
It appears to be more a forced amnesia, so to say.
Yeah, I almost think of it in the biblical statement,
like the fall of man um seems
to be from a level of understanding that we once had achieved and we're no longer there and um
where where do you think nh i fits into this whole forced amnesia uh the monopoly on on information you know there
clearly is a higher or there clearly is a more informed intelligence here why why their
ambivalence toward their own disclosure and what do you make of it and what should we do about it
toward their own disclosure?
And what do you make of it?
And what should we do about it?
I guess, I don't know.
It's, how do I put it?
It seems to me that like,
as you're getting, as we're discussing here,
that there's different,
I guess you would say classes of people on this planet on many levels.
But a lot of those classes seem to actually be predicated not so much by wealth, but by understanding of reality.
So again, it goes back to that monopoly of the truth and what the value of monopolizing the truth is, I guess.
These are very challenging positions for us to find ourselves in because it basically is ludicrous.
There's responsible parties that don't want to be held accountable.
there's responsible parties that don't want to be held accountable and do you think one of those
responsible parties might be non non-human this is a this is a theme that's coming up a lot in the
ufo community there's a danny jones interview where he's interviewing strever and whitley
strever and whitley strever says make no mistake the grays are entirely in control of the rollout of disclosure and you know
if I we all of us have likely all of us have witnessed varying forms of child abuse in public
and including myself I've I've regrettably not done anything but there's a level at some point
like if I if I saw somebody like spank a child like most of the time unfortunately
i've just walked by and continued on i'm no longer that person but now if we saw somebody take out a
gun and shoot a child like we would we would do something and if we saw a family that said like
oh don't read don't open up a book all books are evil we would we would probably take a book
and would be like start learning how to read like not all books are evil right there's the the state
of humanity currently is is almost like parents that won't let their children become literate and
i i'm impressed to ask myself is there some accountability on nhi that are silent right now
because the amnesia seems to be what the chains of slavery are actually made of
did we lose eric to another phone call
did we lose eric to another phone call
yes it appears the the cia does not want me asking my questions french
um and when i find them i will i will kidnap them like they did the the ceo of uh of coinbase
or was it ledger i can't remember um eric are you are you back
i wonder if he's going to end up needing uh to recycle hopefully we get tiff back up here
i think we did ask a couple of the poll shift questions um tiff tiff was kind of interested
in and we're always interested in those um i find it interesting. While we're waiting for Eric to come back up,
he might have to recycle.
First of all, if you're listening
and you have a question for Eric, please be patient.
We will definitely be getting to you.
He obviously loves to entertain questions,
so just make sure you have it all lined up,
put in your request,
and we'll be getting to you very shortly.
I'm so interested in this Barbara Baker connection because I was so much seeing that these
two kind of on the same side as Greer, you know, go out, call the aliens. Aliens are the good guys.
They're our friends. And, you know, just call them down, call them to supper type thing. So I kind of
all saw them in the same light. But it's very interesting to hear from Eric because there is a separation there.
Greer is willing to talk about the human tech.
And as much as I disagree with Greer and very likely Eric, by the way, on the NHI themselves,
because I can promise you there's a nefarious side to the NHI.
No one will ever convince me otherwise. It is very interesting to hear that the
Jake Barber and the Fred Baker, is it Fred Baker? The Barber Baker crew is not interested at all
in the human tech. So I found that fascinating. I'm glad eric's here i think we have him back so go
ahead orrick hey eric can you can you hear me i can hear you again um do you need me to repeat
my question please do i apologize to chop that a whole bunch of stuff no no don't apologize it's
totally fine we're used to these interruptions um so i'm i'm asking
i'm basically saying i was alluding to the danny jones interview with whitley streber where whitley
says make no mistake the grays are in control of disclosure here and considering that the shackles
of humanity seem to be um a monopoly on information and an enforced amnesia what do you what do you make of a more
informed intelligence not breaking disclosure to sort of intercede on the the abuse that that
happens in many ways due to this monopoly of information i think we should focus our attention
on actionable intelligence instead of unsubstantiated speculation.
That's totally fair.
But what is your take on NHI?
I'm just curious.
I imagine other people want to know.
NHI seems to be much less of a threat than our own people lying to us.
NHI seems to be much less of a threat than our own people lying to us.
And what role do you feel like they play?
Do you think they're just non-interventional, or do you feel like they have a bigger role in our history?
Not really a concern of mine, because it doesn't seem to be anything currently other than unsubstantiated speculation when we have
actionable intelligence that's right in front of us i suggest we deal with the actionable
intelligence first and um i'm i'm not being adversarial here um eric but i i have to play
the role of of i mean i'm somebody who's genuinely curious or even if i don't play the role of, I mean, I'm somebody who's genuinely curious, or even if I don't play the role of somebody else,
I find your experience is very interesting.
I find the South Pole, and I'm the one who interjected the aliens into the Nazi story,
but it's hard to not talk about aliens when we're talking about advanced tech,
Antarctica, Hitler, Argentina. Isn't it a little bit weird that we're not about advanced tech antarctica hitler argentina isn't it a little bit weird that
we're not even willing to can we go here can we just speculate or have some fun a little bit
like is it okay to ask questions about the the nhI stuff because i feel like
it's it i i do feel like there's a role there somewhere for for nhI
you could ask whatever you want but i only have experience in
certain things um i'll tell you in terms of like hard information um the human genome
is essentially proof of extraterrestrial intervention um where the only primate species, if you include Neanderthalensis and Denisovans,
that have 46 chromosomes. Every other primate has 48, and there is no neo-Darwinian or classically
Darwinian evolutionary explanation for the evolution of chromosome 2, the way it exists,
and the chromosome count reduction and in fact your
blood and my blood are proof of extraterrestrial intervention um it's probabilistically zero
that the current human genome could even exist without artificial intervention from a more
informed species and therefore I think it it
does no longer felt falls in the realm of speculation I would I would love to know your
thoughts on if what I'm saying is true what it would mean for the NHI presence here if they
engineered our our genome all right I have no idea what you're expecting of me on that um that has nothing to do with
my experience so i wouldn't really have any thoughts on that yeah that's that's totally
fair i uh i spend a lot of time thinking about it because it seems like the cataclysms being purged, the frequency and the severity of multiple cataclysmic cycles, as well as advanced ancient civilizations, the reason that these are denied seem to be directly related to the NHi presence here on on earth and because it relates to advanced technology
this is the this is the reason why i brought it up but um let's move to the uh the ice cube
neutrino detector and um i think oh i would i would love to know your thoughts on the findings
about the pyramid do you have any thoughts about that i think that's super at least adjacent to
what we're about to talk about yeah i think the
pyramid in antarctica is a worthy topic of conversation as well um i happen to have through
a former crew member of mine from the antarctic program access to a massive panoramic image of
some mountains that happened to depict the the pyramid right in the mountain range so
you know i'm i'm not opposed to the idea of there having been pyramids in antarctica i'm not opposed
to greater antiquity on this planet than what we've been told um it certainly seems like we've been lied to in many ways
do you have an image uh that's on your timeline or that you can um that you can post here in the space i do not it's just basically like the largest panoramic photograph i've ever seen in my life
um and it does not do well for like taking a picture of it and trying to post it and share it
yeah that's uh that's totally fine um do you have any other thoughts uh either the the recent
disclosure of the the the tech that's i can't remember how many feet below ground of the Pyramid of Giza or any more thoughts on the pyramids in Antarctica.
Nothing in particular, just other than these are all worthy topics of trying to figure out the actual truth to our past that we seemingly have been deceived about.
Yeah, absolutely.
Fringe, where do you want to take it?
Are we going straight to the South Pole now
and the IceCube neutrino detector?
Yeah, I'd love to hear about the weapon.
What's it being used for?
Obviously, Eric, just some of this is opinion.
Some of this is knowledge.
What's the weapon?
What's it being used for?
What are they going to do with it?
Who's they?
Are we talking about Raytheon?
Is it a conglomerate?
That kind of stuff.
Thanks, Ulrich.
They seems to be undefined currently.
And the State of the Union appears to be, you know, when you say, like, you know, what can it do?
Like, you know, what can it do?
Currently seems to be earthquakes, long-range communications, and like an air traffic control tower for exotic propulsion systems.
And that would be in regards to the Ice Cube Neutrino Detector Array. detector array. Then you have the ELF system, which is a whole other manifold directed energy
weapons platform, submarine communications systems. There's a laser that fires out of a
building at the South Pole Station known as ARO, the Atmospheric Research Observatory. I mean,
there's just so much going on that, you know, as I mentioned earlier,
we have actionable intelligence here.
We have referenceable science.
We have a location.
We could go invade the South Pole and turn things off.
You know, everybody remembers the big joke of, you know of invade Area 51.
I mean, technically, these are locations where we know stuff is going on.
That's like the definition of actionable intelligence. The problem in the disclosure community seems to be that we keep discussing the unsubstantiated speculations of supposed whistleblowers that have yet to provide any actionable intelligence.
According to Jake Barber's information,
where should we go?
Where should we invade?
Who's the problem in the equation?
Or is he just providing unsubstantiated speculation
that's not actionable intelligence?
Because I know of a facility, I know of a location, I know of technologies, I've provided the information to the authorities.
The question remains, why have they not acted on it?
remains, why have they not acted on it?
What do you think the answer is to that, Eric?
What are your thoughts on that?
Are there a bunch of lying scumbags that are pretending like they're gathering information
for good purposes, while instead they're just controlling the narrative by stepping up folks
and investing in things like Skywatcher and Jake Barber.
And why do you think that is?
I mean, do you think they are powerless?
To lie to the people to continue to monopolize the technology.
Okay.
So do you think our private corporations have just completely outpaced our military
and our government people and that they might actually...
Absolutely 100%. The military-indust industrial complex is at the helm so do you think they just might
uh not have any power at all the people you reported to correct
go ahead ulrich uh you want to talk about this weapon i'd like to hear uh you know the details on it and all that yeah awesome yeah absolutely and just one last thing before we get
to the weapon i'm looking through our listeners tuning in they actually have a bunch of questions
and we'll also as long as you're comfortable with it eric will bring up people for for live q a so
if we're not going through all of them nobody should be dismayed um you'll you'll get a chance to interact with Eric live um but I wanted to know your take on
the drones um do you have any and and I'm sorry if I'm breaking the NHI rule here but do you do
you have a perspective on the drones do you think some of them are NHI is it all you know clandestine
black tech totally all of our stuff the government knows
every single thing that's flying over those facilities otherwise they'd be shooting them
down actively they're lying through their teeth as usual and and you don't think that they've
tried to shoot them down you think they've identified them as as our own contractors correct
down you think they've identified them as as our own contractors correct all right um yeah um so
and correct me where i'm mistaken here it's been a while i paid keen attention to uh both your
interview with sean ryan and of course your your original testimony at greer's conference but
wherever i've i've gotten the details mixed up please jump in and correct the record eric um but
my general understanding is you were in antarctica you had full access to all of the rooms at the
facility at raytheon and you also had access to the the specs of the the so-called doms what is it digital optical modules and you overheard that the misuse or the
accidental operation of the ice cube neutrino detector which doesn't only receive but also
transmits uh signals uh caused the earthquake in was it scandinavia and that this weapon also has the
ability not just to cause earthquakes but to act maybe i think that's the the extremely low
frequency one so separate separate tech but has the ability to act as a directed energy weapon
and uh cause cause damage to human consciousness is that a is that a fair summary
that was a lot going on in there there was um a lot that was accurate and a couple of things that
were less than accurate but it was hard to uh dial it all in well feel free to correct at any time
anything that i where i missed the mark enough. I'm challenged to go back and
pull out which part was which.
What is...
But that's like a fair summary, like background
context, right? Close enough,
I guess I would say.
Okay.
One of the things that you got wrong
was it wasn't Scandin scandinavia it was new
zealand i always get this wrong and i fear being labeled as racist i always mix up the ikea
countries um so so it was uh which one was it again i'm already doing it uh it was actually
new zealand so in february of 2011 there were two earthquake events that occurred in christner
christ church new zealand that were uh induced earthquakes caused by the ice cube neutrino
detector in its transmit capacity um when you were giving your testimony what was the reaction of the people in the room
uh the in the skiffs the folks in the skiffs um well in the in the senate intelligence committee
skiff there was one gentleman who was like a well i shouldn't say like he was a scientist and he was like an
interpreter for the other people in the room which to the best of my recollection there was maybe
four to six other people in the room um listening to the testimony and in the set intelligence
committee skiff the scientist was,
for like the best way to put it, I would say it was almost like, um,
like a kid in the, like he was,
I was saying, and then they were I don't they're pretty I would almost say like they were just diplomatic you know like thank you for sharing that with us like they they see therapists being
told something crazy but they can't show their real yeah like they were very unemotionally
attached compared to the scientist guy but now that was the senate intelligence
committee that was one skiff then the arrow skiff um there were two investigators who seemed from
my perspective a lot more confused about the information I was sharing with them
than the scientist in the Senate Intelligence Committee, SCIF.
What do you make of that?
Shouldn't there be somebody in Arrow, if they're in on the con,
that is not confused or not surprised?
What do you make of this um this you know this disparity
the disparity on my end I think that my information is just so out in left field to begin with
I'm never surprised when people are surprised by my info was there any talk of detection of UFOs through the S-cube neutrino detector?
Absolutely. That was covered with great clarity in both skiffs.
If this is a contractor, Raytheon, are they detecting other contractors' UFOs or NHI entry UFOs?
I believe that this facility would capture the activity of all factions, exotically propelled vehicles, which is why this information is so secreted because it actually pulls back the veil on what's really
going on in disclosure instead of the fucking bullshit sandwich everybody's eating up.
And, um, was, were there any people who were angry in the room?
Was there anybody who was hearing stuff, especially in the Senate Intelligence one,
where they felt they were getting new intel from you when they should have been apprised of the intel internally?
From my perspective, it seemed like they were the greatest amount of their agitation was based in the reality that it was it was like once again, they were being presented information that confirmed that there are rogue factions operating without oversight.
That seems to be what they're pissed about.
And is your take still with the new Trump administration that more or less these technologies, I'm going to label them asymmetric or singularity technologies, are such a step change ahead of what the U.S. government proper or the U.S. military proper has,
that essentially one or more rogue contractors have our government and our nation by the balls.
Is that still the case politically, according to your understanding?
I do not believe anybody has this by the balls if i'm not
mistaken this past week president trump has made some statement to the effect of we have technologies
and weapons that you can't imagine watch out there was talk of space and time technologies
uh what's your take on this is one of the the listener questions
why why is he bringing this up right now i mean it's such a vague reference it's so weird it's
almost out of star wars why why do you think he made that announcement what do you think he's
alluding to and what do you think the public is making of this uh it's not a vague reference at
all it's very pointed the public's making nothing of it It's not a vague reference at all. It's very pointed. The public's
making nothing of it because the public's fucking retarded. And what I make of it is that we are
currently in the throes of war at a level of technology that most people are unbeknownst of.
And that is the state of the union that nobody seems to be paying attention to because there are factions that are invested heavily in that are trying to convince people that mankind does not have this technology.
You used my favorite word, which is war.
Can you map out what do you think is the landscape of this war to the best of your speculation or knowledge?
Directed energy weapons are being wielded by many factions.
And we, the people, the average mortgage payers of the planet are caught in the crossfire and have no idea.
Because the wounds of war are not what we're familiar with conventionally.
Conventionally, they're no longer bullet holes because they're not conventional weapons.
They're no longer bullet holes because they're not conventional weapons.
They are directed energy weapons.
And the wounds of war and the walking wounded of the contemporary battlefield are not what people are familiar with.
Let's take the U.S. government or the military wielded by the Trump administration.
Who are they? give me an adversary
who are they at war with when they're using these directed energy weapons
all of the nation states are at war with the people of the planet this is nothing to do with
nation states or geographical boundaries thereof. This is much higher level than that.
This is a form of classism that the majority of people are not indulging in conversationally.
And so the war is against the common man and woman? Is government against the common man and woman?
the common man and woman?
Is government against the common man and woman?
Governments are puppets in the equation.
The problem comes from much higher up.
If governments are puppets,
wouldn't that kind of mean
our government, you know,
something has us by the balls?
Yes.
Who do you think is more at the top here is it is it lockheed and martin is it the military the military industrial complex until a more guilty culprit can be found
yeah yeah so so i'm not completely off base here. Like you, you think that they're more likely really in control of disclosure than any of our,
our politicians.
They certainly can afford to be.
Fringe, handing, handing the mic back over to you. Let me know if I, if I didn't cover anything.
Yeah. Thanks, Eric. So my question, Eric, is how did you end up getting to the SCIF what was the
process uh did somebody bring you there uh was it just connections who did you report to that
kind of thing um and then did someone vet your intelligence before you made it into the SCIF
how did that go uh I got into the SCiffs through Greer. He was my connection.
As far as any vetting they did on me, I have no idea what they did.
And how about the intelligence itself?
Has anybody looked at it and looked at your claims that are being made for this weapon
and kind of trying to put any pieces together on that?
Apparently, it would appear that Arrow, at the very least, is doing their best to cover it up.
Okay, Sarah, do you have anything on this topic before I ask a couple of last questions before we get to the audience? Yeah, I do. Eric, I'm curious.
I very much appreciate your insight on the Barber Baker gang. So, you know, it is not,
you know, over our heads here in the community to know that there is absolutely a sigh of soft disclosure happening. To me, for me personally,
this was a red flag when Grush came up to speak. It was like, why is he allowed to say the things
that he's allowed to say? You know, multi-dimensions, we have crap, we have bodies,
etc., etc. This is July 2023. And then as we move forward through the past two years of history, we can clearly make sense of a soft disclosure thing happening in regards to people coming forward. James Fox's documentary, The Program, which in my opinion is just an open window into the inner
circle of those who are doing soft disclosure. Now, recently, or should I say in the last couple
of months, Lou Elizondo was asked his opinion on Jake Barber, and he went on to say that he has not
been in talks with him. So inevitably, that would mean that the two are separate groups of some sort of SIOP-y soft disclosure or even controlling of the information.
My question to you regarding all of this is you've given us the idea of what the Barbara Baker gang is doing. Can you, from your perspective and being a whistleblower on the inside,
give us a breakdown of what the Howe put-offs,
the Jay Strattons, the Lou Elizondo,
that basic group,
what is their soft disclosure?
What is their PSYOP?
What are you seeing?
And can you untangle that for us?
It appears to me that they're all working with due diligence to cover up for factions that have massive liabilities for the activities they've all been involved with for decades.
Okay. Yeah. So then, so then basically they're trying to control, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're
controlling the information that's coming out. I mean, it's obvious when you have whistleblowers
in, in the fall and, and I know this Jason Sands being one of them who, you know, him and many
people on his behalf reaching out to the committee that held the
November 13th congressional hearings to say, I am a whistleblower. I will sit there on November
13th, go under oath and tell you everything under oath. And Jason wasn't alone. There were many
others that they did not give a seat to, including the Immaculate Constellation whistleblower.
the Immaculate Constellation whistleblower.
Instead, they have Lou Elizondo, some guy from NASA trying to get some money, and Schellenberger,
who wasn't even the person who was in charge of the actual Immaculate Constellation whistleblower.
So you're just saying that this is all for the case, that they are all working to control this. And this is not necessarily for the people,
but it's really for their own selves,
for their own selfish reasons to hide what they've done.
None of this production comes without cost.
Massive cost.
So it's very interesting having gone to Washington, D.C.
and seen a bunch of whistleblowers show up.
And now I get to observe which ones get invested in.
Because, again, there's a massive cost to these productions to make these shows, to disclose to people.
These things take many man hours worth of labor.
No one's volunteering all of their time to these efforts.
The vast majority of people are making copious amounts of money in these disclosure circles so to me it's just a follow the money thing as
usual i mean in december i'm sorry in june of 2023 um on Are the testimonies of the other whistleblowers less important? or are we finding out that there are factions moving throughout the disclosure community
and just seeing who they can connect to?
Thank you. I really appreciate your guidance on this. And from what I'm taking from you,
and it's really inspiring me right now, is the very sense that here we are spending all of our time on Lou Elizondo
and his imminent book when really we should be going back to the Greer June 2023
whistleblower convention and digging through those guys.
Is it a coincidence that immediately on the heels of Greer's event was when Grush became public?
I mean, to me, it just looked like somebody was attempting to steal the limelight from one conversation and apply it to another.
It's, to me, the definition of controlling the narrative.
To me, the definition of controlling the narrative.
Who can invest more money to make sure that the people that they put at the podiums are the ones that the most people hear?
I mean, this goes right back to what we were saying earlier about the NDAA and subsidizing the news.
Are we to believe that podcasters, alien conventions, these things that take money, investment, and man hours of labor are off limits for these factions that we're learning are already operating without oversight to do things like run directed energy weapons platforms. Well, if they're going to run directed energy weapons platforms, wouldn't it be wise for them to run intelligence operations and counterintelligence operations to make certain that those technologies are, you know, well hidden?
Yes, yes.
Thank you for, I'm sorry, I'm making a list of notes, some things I need to follow up
with. Eric, thank you. Thanks, Sarah. I'm going to get to a final few questions. You might not
have the answer to, Eric, but I'll ask them anyway. And then we'll just hit Ulrich and Sarah one more
time. And right after that, we're going to be getting to audience questions.
Eric, how are we looking on time today?
I am doing good so far.
Okay, awesome.
Okay, so just a few last questions.
One of them is, do you think the technology that we're getting is being seeded by the NHI or a breakaway civilization or
something to that effect.
I think that, can you hear me?
Yeah, we got you.
I think that the information that we are being seeded is from technology that
has been being wielded by mankind for many decades.
Right back to the monopoly of technology thing again.
We are nowhere near.
Again, not to say that there's no such thing as UFOs and off-world technology.
I'm just trying to emphasize that we've been deep in this stuff for so many decades that we're just buffering out information
from the stuff that has been being utilized by the factions without oversight.
Okay, and then taking all the human technology into consideration, the voice to skull,
the human military abductions, and Havana syndrome.
Are you aware of any technologies out there that can be used to stop this or to mitigate these technologies being used against us?
Even better than that.
We have techniques that are better than technologies because technologies are simply bastardizations of old techniques the ancient
mystery schools used to teach know thyself so this is one of the things they don't want us to know
that if you actually are introspective enough and do the work so to say which is at this stage of the game due to outside influences
rather exhaustive but functional nonetheless know thyself so that would be specifically i'm
i'm gonna guess against like a voice to skull type technology. Are you aware of anything that can mitigate Havana syndrome from being in the proximity of these technologies?
I think it goes right back again to know thyself.
If people are aware of what these technologies are, how they function, and can make the distinction between what is themselves and what is intrusive um that kind of levels the playing
field okay fair enough uh orec sarah do you guys have anything else before we get to questions
um what what should we be asking you eric
What should we be asking you, Eric?
I'm not quite certain.
What should I have covered more about the IceCube neutrino detector or the ELF device?
What did I sort of leave on the table?
Oh, I don't think you left anything on the table in regards to those topics. I can only hope that the general audience understands that there are levels of technologies that exist,
that they may not necessarily understand how they work, but they need to consider the implications
and should also consider what they as an individual should choose to do next
with that understanding.
I would love to ask you two questions.
What have other interviews fail?
What have they missed?
What have they sort of like not gotten?
What have they not dug deep enough into
whenever they've
talked to you and i'm gonna ask you the peter teal question what belief or knowledge do you hold
um that most people would disagree with
oh geez um you lost i i forgot what the first question was oh the first question is like what
where what is it that other interviews have missed like what have they not asked you or
i think what most people aren't digging deep enough into is the reality that the disclosure community for the most part has been um infiltrated bought and sold
and is being run by um the same rogue factions that the u.s government is concerned about
yeah you definitely answer the question one quite quite there yeah and question number two is what
what do you believe where most people would disagree with you on um yeah or what knowledge you hold that's that's you know that that most
people would be blown away by or would disagree with or would be considered just batshit crazy
that there happened to be evil enough people on this planet to be doing the activities that i
suggest are going on.
Eric, thank you so much for indulging my questions and tolerating me. Fringe, no further questions,
Your Honor. Sarah, go ahead. Yes, Eric, so of all of the whistleblowers that you have met with that have publicly came forward, whether that be at the Stephen Greer, who should I be reaching out to follow up with after I leave this space
that attention has not been brought to?
I guess in the framework of your question, I guess I would say enough attention has already been brought to the whistleblowers that have come public relative to the pertinence of the information they have provided.
partners of the information they have provided.
I'm looking for names of people who are already publicly out there that you've met with that you think need a voice and need a stage, need a space to come forward in a protective way and to speak their truth here with us.
way and to speak their truth here with us.
In the vein of your question, which I appreciate because it matters, right?
I would say me.
By God, you do.
Right.
In the grand scheme of this conversation and having communicated with other whistleblowers about this very thing
um why like Michael Herrera DC long people that I I sat next to in Washington DC agree
right that their information comes with no proof so they don't understand why people are paying more attention to their information versus mine.
So my brain immediately goes to, as always, we should pay more attention to people that have actionable intelligence than people who possess unsubstantiated speculation.
So I would actually just reverse the question to you.
Who do you see in the community that comes to the table
with immediately actionable intelligence
instead of unsubstantiated speculation?
Well, okay, I would actually throw that question right back to you
in the sense
that, uh, so you've, you are that person that has the substantial information. What am I to do with
that? Since you've already taken the steps that I, as a little person here with barely a voice,
you've gone and done. Like, it seems as though everything that you can within the government to bring the knowledge
to them so i have no power there all i can do here is just give a voice maybe to maybe a couple
hundred fifty people that want to join a space i'm in so that's what what i'm asking like i don't
have i need direction the problem with most folks is they're seeking direction versus finding their own path.
I wholly suggest you take this information and do whatever you think is best and do it immediately.
Sarah, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm just, I, I, well, what I do is not, you know, I, I'm going to, I'm going to sit here.
I'm going to ask you the questions. I'm going to make the notes. I'm going to add you to my
spreadsheet. Um, and I'm going to ask you for who I should be talking to next. That's all that I can do.
I don't have a mountain to move regarding anything other than that.
Fair question.
Totally fair question.
And I wish I had greater specificity, but I would leave it with I think that you should dial in your conversations to people that have actionable intelligence and ignore
people who have unsubstantiated speculations. And so who do you know as a, other than yourself,
as a whistleblower who has come publicly forward that has the actual substantial
evidence that I can meet with or talk with. Nobody.
Not one person.
Okay.
Okay.
Sorry.
I'm very.
You tried, Sarah.
You tried.
Eric is just, you know, Eric's Eric.
Is this an unfair answer?
Again, my question remains on the table to everybody in this room, everybody here right now.
You chime in with who has provided actionable intelligence.
No, it's not an unfair thing.
What it is is truly just desperation, you know, may I say?
It's truly just disappointment. Not in you not not in in any
it's just that that uh you know it's just i totally i totally get it i share the same
disappointment because here i am you know screaming from the mountaintops proverbially
with actionable intelligence and watching everybody ignore it because they adore the unsubstantiated speculation is nauseating
um eric is is should we should should we just be building our own ice cube neutrino detector
at this point and proving what it does would would that make a difference no what we should
be doing is um figuratively throwing tomatoes at the people at the podiums that are speaking with unsubstantiated speculation.
We should be laughing at them, shaming them, and they shouldn't be tolerated in these communities.
What about David Grush? What's your take on him? He submitted evidence, but not- Total con job set up, fed to discount the conversations that were happening that mattered.
I don't think we have to wonder where Eric stands on most of these things.
Well, I did want the clip recorded so that it can go viral.
Oh, there we go.
I've been enjoying this.
And I completely been enjoying this. Uh,
and I,
I completely understand the frustration.
Imagine testifying,
you know,
getting into two skiffs.
Most people don't even make it into one,
getting into two skiffs with,
with what he believes is actionable intelligence.
And here we are what a year or so later.
And it appears that nothing has been done.
I mean,
I'm shocked.
Yeah.
I mean,
seriously, put, put, I mean, for real, put yourself in my shoes just like you did.
I mean, how am I supposed to feel about this stuff?
I mean, seriously, if you folks were in my shoes,
if you had life experience like I had,
if you had intelligence, documented stuff, and you went there,
and then this is what became of it, this a total circus to me to me it's obvious
so then yeah i hear you and i appreciate that you're willing to give and give time you know
just to the smaller community um you know people who are willing to listen to what you have to say
we probably don't have a whole lot of power but you know just just word of mouth and getting
getting the word out and all of that i think think we have, we have way more power than we appreciate. And this is why I love engaging in these environments,
because this is really what it boils down to is it's a, we, the people thing. And if we
understood how much we are the majority, we would realize how easy this problem is to rectify.
Fair enough. But then the follow-up question is, again, like Sarah said, what are the steps? What
are the steps we can take to rectify it, in your opinion? Become unmanageable so stop doing what you're told to do by any definition stop looking outwardly
for direction start looking inwardly towards what one individual thinks they should do by their own
choice with the information that they're learning from their life experience. It's about empowering people to decide to do with what they know.
Okay, Eric, we're going to be letting people up in the order received.
And while we're doing that, I do have two last questions.
It's from our co-host.
She's not here today.
She's usually up here on the panel, but she wasn't able to join us today.
So the first one is, you've hinted at interspecies communication technology.
Did you witness or hear about direct interactions with non-human entities?
If so, what were their characteristics and what was the agenda behind these interactions?
their characteristics and what was the agenda behind these interactions?
I don't recall ever intimating anything about interspecies communications,
just communications from ourselves to ourselves.
So when you were saying that, that, that,
I think it was the neutrino neutrino detector was used for communications.
You're saying that's us to ourselves. Is that
correct? That would be my understanding. Okay. And then the next one is, and this is the final
one before we get to, we just brought Jay just up. Describe a moment at the South Pole where you felt
something was deliberately hidden from you. Can you confirm or elaborate on a specific incident involving a restricted area or anomalous event?
Sure. And this is something I've been completely public about previously.
When I discovered that the ELF system was actually operational versus off.
So that was a circumstance where I realized things were not as presented.
All right, Eric, thanks for indulging us. I appreciate you going through that whole thing.
And we have some audience questions coming up. Go ahead, Jay, just.
Okay. So earlier in the conversation, you said that basically the House committee, like when they had the whole Grush thing, or no, actually when they had Lou Elizondo, you said that basically it was a setup.
It was a setup and that there were firsthand witnesses that they could have put instead.
And I know Sarah asked you this, but you must have said that from somewhere besides yourself.
Who else would you have liked to seen put up there?
I guess I don't know of anybody that I would like to see up there I don't I
don't know of anybody else that has actionable intelligence so with all the
time like hanging out with Greer and Greer's camp and like meeting Michael
Herrera and other whistleblowers there's no other people like Grush claims.
He has how many whistleblowers?
Like you never met those people.
And if Grush,
I think,
I think Grush is full of crap and a fed shill.
I mean,
I mean,
I see no value to him in the conversation.
I see him as a detriment.
How is he a show?
Because he was presented on the heels of the presentation of people a week beforehand
who had direct firsthand experience when he did not. So it was an invested effort to steal the stage, so to say.
Okay, so my other question is, when you were in the skip,
were you with senators or Congress?
I don't know which.
In regards to the Senate Intelligence Committee,
I do not know who the people were. In regards to Arrow, I am not allowed to discuss who I communicated with.
Right. Okay. Okay. So when you see Rubio, who is now, what is he now?
He is, what is he?
Secretary of State.
Right.
Okay.
So when you see he's now Secretary of State, but he's also come out for disclosure, what do you make of that?
Because obviously he's been informed. have had these technologies for many decades and there are many that don't
want to be found liable to their activities for all of these decades of
action so I don't think much of him or his involvement it appears to be part of
the cover-up and part of the oh look, did you know there's a thing called a UFO?
We're going to start looking into it.
It's a joke.
And I don't think that they disregard the history.
I do.
Okay, that's fair.
Thanks, J. Just.
Are you still going? Do you still have have i know you have a whole list yeah i probably
could stay up but uh you can drop me and um okay fringe um can we just give people an overview of
how many people are in the queue because you know currently we have eight million people in the queue
i just want people to know when they're getting closer yes we have eight million people in the queue. I just want people to know when they're getting closer. Yes, we have 8 million people in the queue, and we will bring up each and every one of you if
you're just patient enough. If you can just be patient, we appreciate it. Eric, were you able
to present evidence, just documentation, anything at all besides your opinion of what happened,
anything at all besides your opinion of what happened,
your opinion of what you saw?
Absolutely.
I had documentation.
I had maps.
I had information for them.
Correct.
Okay, thank you.
Sarah and Fringe, I'll let you handle the approval of the requests,
and I'll just jump in when things get rowdy and exciting.
All right.
We have Experience.
Experience, welcome to the space.
Go ahead.
Peace.
What up, everybody?
Just a couple of detailed questions for you, Eric.
I know you had two SCIF meetings, one with Arrow.
My first question is, did you already request your MFR from Arrow?
I just recently did request it.
Okay, cool.
So that's a good thing.
The other question I had is, when you were stationed in the South Pole, and I didn't watch the Sean Ryan episode.
I remember watching the Greer thing in D.C. way back when.
But you were there as a firefighter slash plumber,
is that correct? Yep, technically that's what my contract had me as. In greater specificity,
I did operate outside of the role of a tradesman of a plumber fixing additional items that were you know other trades technically
even though i was contracted as a plumber i operated under the role of what they referred to
as a ut a utilities technician which basically just meant i was responsible for fixing everything not
just plumbing gotcha all right and so my question is with the technology that you
came across or came in contact to or exposed to um being that your role was a ut you weren't
operating this equipment or doing maintenance on it you were in contact with people that were or
i'm assuming scientists or some other kind of engineers around this equipment and during your
time of whistleblowing or even the crew that you're associated with,
did you reach out to anyone else to kind of like come out with you or corroborate your whistleblowing?
Oh, absolutely. Yes, of course.
Yep. That's the best way of putting it is that I worked in very close proximity to the operators of these systems.
I was not necessarily responsible for the maintenance of the system,
I guess you would say, as much as the facility, the building,
that the system resided in.
So I would make sure that the building was up and running,
whereas the operators were
more involved in the handling the operations and maintenance of the system for sure um did i have
conversations with folks about these systems how they functioned and what they really do absolutely
and uh the last part of it where i asked if know, when you were coming out as a whistleblower, did you reach out to anybody that you worked with at the facility, either with your crew or some of the scientists to kind of come out with you or corroborate your story?
I absolutely did.
And some did not want to go public.
Some did not want to go public.
One person, a former crew member, actually did come to Washington, D.C.
because there were some aspects of my story that she could corroborate,
although her role, like many others at the facility, were limited.
So there were certain parts of my story that she couldn't corroborate
because she wasn't privy to. Gotcha. Okay's all i got appreciate it guys thanks experience thanks eric for hanging
in there uh let's see we're going to just be adding a couple more people up hopefully in the
order that you put in but um you know we're doing our best. Go ahead, Dory. Welcome to the space.
Dory, your mic is not open.
We cannot hear you.
And we might have to drop Dory down and bring someone else up. All right, Syed, welcome to the space. Do you have a question for Eric?
I wanted to mention that I live very close to Area 51, about 50 miles as the crow flies.
We have radar tracker 24, which is what the pilots use
to make sure they're not coming too close to each other
and they communicate with each other.
It shows them the tail numbers.
And we're late night people, and twice we have seen
what comes out of Area 51. It has tail numbers on it. We always assumed they had reverse engineered it, but that doesn't have to be the case. is at least 2,000 years in advance of what our regular military uses and what the regular
military is even aware of. It is anti-magnetic and anti-gravitational, and it has no lights.
I don't know what pilots it, but it's got to be in some kind of a container or it's
but it's got to be in some kind of a container or it's moved by intuition.
I don't know how they pilot the thing, but we've seen it twice,
and it can do things the rest of our flights, our F-22s and so on, cannot do.
I was so excited.
I even forgot to pick up my iPhone to take pictures of what the laptop was showing us.
But we have that kind of technology.
And I was so blown away.
All I can tell you about is that I saw it.
I can't show you it.
You either believe me or you don't, but I am backing up, Eric, that our government has stuff that is beyond belief.
We have stuff that is so amazing.
It's incredible.
And I'll just leave it there.
That's all I have to add to the conversation. But Eric, I believe everything you're telling us because I've seen something with my own eyes that blew my mind.
Thank you, Saeed.
I appreciate you chiming in with that.
We do have Dory back.
Go ahead, Dory.
Thank you, Fringe.
Hello, Eric.
Eric, you are an awesome, amazing guest. I agree with you. I'm wondering, are you aware of the president of Lucis Trust, Christine Morgan?
I'm not familiar with Christine Morgan, and the Lucis Trust only sounds vaguely familiar.
Okay.
She gave an hour interview a couple of years ago, and I foolishly did not save the file.
And a couple of months ago, I went back to retrieve it, and it has been scrubbed, including
off the podcaster's platforms.
He took it down from all of his platforms.
She basically, in that interview, explained how the leaders of the UN get together
and they do a meditation where they connect with non-human intelligences.
with non-human intelligences. Now, this is a thing that was set forth many decades ago
by Blavatsky, Hitler, and on and on. Bailey, Besant, they crafted this deal.
After Roswell, they found Velcro, Kevlar, and Kevlar vests weren't even used for, well, Fringe would know, what, 80s for police vests.
And this was 47.
They found these things.
They are hiding things from us.
And you guys, you have to, we all have to start to, as Eric said earlier, see through this bullshit sandwich they've been feeding us.
Thank you, Eric. I wish I could find that interview. If I could rip it from, if I can find
it and get it in my hot little hands, I would love for you to listen to exactly what they do
and what their plans are and how they believe that their privilege to manipulate the human genome,
plants, animals, and everything else to suit their future humanity in an ascended state.
So that's part of the upper, upper, you know, I mean, we're talking UN, right?
So anyway, thank you very much.
Thank you, Fringe.
Thank you, Doomer.
Thank you, Sarah.
I appreciate it. Thanks, Dory. I think it's not popular in the UFO community to say, yeah, I think
that's human tech. I say it all the time. I say it a lot. As a matter of fact, I would say we see
human tech much more than we actually see the actual non-human tech. And it's not a popular
thing to say in ufology, but it is what
it is. So thanks, Dori. Yeah. One more thing. Yes, you're right. It's not popular. However,
there was a detail in the Rendlesham Forest incident where the witnesses saw symbols glowing.
One guy even said like almost through a skin on this saucer-shaped craft and Skunk Works revealed that they have had that technology.
They put out an article two years ago that they have this glowing skin with the symbols on it.
And I went, oh, isn't that interesting?
Thanks.
Oh, I saw that.
Thanks, Dory.
Who do we have?
We have City Takes.
Welcome to the space.
You have a question for Eric.
Hi, Eric.
Could you explain a little bit about the technology
behind that earthquake generating machine? You said that it was neutrinos do you
like do you know understand a little bit about the physics of how that works
i didn't say that it was neutrinos that were being used in its offensive capacity um as far as trying
to explain the technicalities of it i would just um point people in the
direction of realizing they need to study nikola tesla and a lot more about what this phenomenon
is that we reap the benefit of known as um electricity and that we need to respect that
there are other phenomena that are yet to be wholly discussed publicly that uh will reap us
other benefits that are as peculiar as electricity when it was first presented to us
okay makes sense so it's like a an alternative form of power or energy, as you say.
Or phenomenon, just for lack of better terms.
Like electricity is a phenomenon that we all reap the benefit of.
We use it every single day. But how many of the average individuals that utilize electricity every day can actually explain to you how this phenomenon is corralled, utilized, functioned. So I believe we're just turning a page
contemporarily into a new direction where we're going to have new phenomena that we're going to
have to become comfortable with. Like just like when electricity first came out, right? Imagine
the way the world was, the context, the environment. When electricity first came out, did the average person
really understand electricity while they were first using it? So I believe we're about to have
a transitionary stage. Hopefully, my belief is that this technology will become available to the
masses and that, albeit confusing in the the beginning we will be able to reap the
benefits of these new phenomena and technologies does that um involve like zero point energy and
what's your opinion on the new thing that people are focusing on like consciousness and telepathy
the new thing that people are focusing on like consciousness and telepathy
there's nothing new under the sun when it comes to energy nikola tesla stated many years ago
that listening to mankind complain about a lack of energy was like listening to a man who's
meandering down a stream in the canoe complain that he's thirsty so when it comes to like zero point energy or
whatever term you want to fill in the blank with energy is not a problem mismanagement
of energy is and that's currently the state of the problem with most of society today,
going back to the monopolization of technologies. Buckminster Fuller said back in the 1950s,
if I remember correctly, that we've already reached a state of, you know, industrial advancement, technological achievement, that the vast majority
of people on the planet should be reaping all of the possible benefits that we can imagine
off of a fraction of the effort required before. Yet we didn't see that come to fruition. Instead of a single family household being able to provide for eight children, now we have double income families that can barely get by supporting one child.
it's just that simple to think that things are getting harder instead of easier is off the wall
we're being mismanaged there's a con job going on
yeah um so you're saying that we lack efficiency in our energy systems basically
and i had a second part of my question where i was asking about consciousness and we lack honesty we lack honesty in our
understanding of how these systems work we are being forced to adhere to concepts that are over
a hundred years old and we're being forced to pretend that no advancements have been made
i see um so um what are your thoughts on consciousness and telepathy and those things
that have emerged recently consciousness is probably the most important conversation that
almost nobody is having we can see in greater antiquity it was more the primary purpose of most conversations that people had in a day.
But now we find ourselves succumbing to conversations of ridiculousness instead of things that matter.
Consciousness is key to a lot more than most people want to engage.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Citi. Thank you, Eric. We have Nathaniel with us. Welcome, Nathaniel. Do you have a question for Eric?
Hi, yes. The first one would be short, perhaps.
uh eric are you familiar with uh something called a hydrino h-y-d-r-i-n-o proposed by mills have you
ever heard that in the rooms or anything that you might have been around or maybe
talks of the hydrogen atom at large i feel like just recently i was in some sort of a room where this was being discussed, but I was not completely following the conversation.
All right.
The second question would be since there's an effort to do, let's call it a Greer model of live open know, disclosure of, say, a technology that could
be beneficial as a means of getting it out there.
You know, contrasting with institutions, you might have seen that clip of the White House
press secretary or whoever it was saying, you know, we can do space-time engineering
now.
And it seems, you know, how Putoff has talked about the importance of going
to universities and telling them it's okay to talk about the Aether. You know, there's extended
electrodynamics, there's papers coming out of China and Russia. I would like your take on how you see
the field of this thing breaking down on one hand and then advancing on another or any other thing you'd like to say
I guess in the vein of your question which is hard to answer I don't have a great one I guess my brain goes towards I would like to see less people paying paying attention to or giving credence to what we would previously consider academia
or the supposed authorities on these topics, because it appears from my perspective
that these are one in the same for who have been deceiving us for decades
so it seems ridiculous to me to inquire to them those that have lied to us for so long
about what the truth is i think we need to really start um again shaming these people
for the roles that they
have been involved in for decades
which is deception
of the masses
Thank you
Hear, hear
Thank you, Nathaniel you're here.
Thank you, Nathaniel.
Chris, welcome to the space.
You have a question for Eric.
Hi, Eric.
Great.
Been watching you for years, man.
Thanks for doing what you're doing and taking the hard steps out there. You mentioned Nikola Tesla.
Have you got any other recommendations for
legitimate study? First of all,
I guess that's my first question. Absolutely.
Victor Schauerberger and T. Townsend Brown
would also be worthy avenues of study.
Okay, thank you. Those are already well dug into. Next question would be a shield for Havana syndrome,
like for,
from,
from ambient radiation.
Like if you created your own field,
could you keep yourself safe from that stuff?
I do.
I follow what you're saying.
And I think on many levels,
since, since we can consider what is being intrusively applied contemporarily is through a technological means.
First and foremost would mean that there should be an anti-technology to it.
tie technology to it absolutely i believe that that's possible second to that i believe that
Absolutely, I believe that that's possible.
these technologies are simply bastardizations of ancient techniques and that the techniques
themselves are more powerful than the bastardized technologies so if people can become adept in the ancient techniques, they can also accomplish
what is needed. Which techniques do you yourself study? Know thyself.
You mentioned. Okay. And last question, Which version of the ontology do you find most truthful?
has had access to these technologies for quite some time.
And what we are witnessing contemporarily is unfortunately the observation of massive investment for those that are trying to cover their culpable asses from the liability of the actions they've been involved with for decades.
Thank you very much for your time and your answers.
If you're ever driving on the highway back up to Alaska,
you've got an overnight spot if you need.
What area are we talking about?
Because I do travel.
I'm in Williams Lake.
So if you're driving through BC up there,
you've got a bed and breakfast to stay at.
You got it. You never know where I roam, and I may take you up on that someday, Sarah.
I really appreciate the questions, and have an excellent day.
Thank you, Chris. Go ahead and jump in, Sarah.
Yeah, sure. Eric, I am curious. What are the dates of your two skips, please?
It would have been early June of 2023. I apologize. I can't think of the specific dates at the moment.
Was it before or after the June 12th Greer?
That was the same event.
So you went to the SCIF after the Greer?
Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. I see what you're saying.
So it would have been, I went to the SCIFs a couple of days before the Greer National Press Club disclosure event.
Both SCIFs?
Correct.
And one was with congressional members of the Senate
and one was with...
One was with, by definition, this is what I was told,
one was with the Senate Intelligence Committee
and the other one was AARO, A-A-R-O.
Okay, and then one more question just to follow up on this. The evidence that, so you say,
you know, that you are the only person, the only whistleblower that has come forward with
actual evidence. You must have provided this evidence, obviously, in the SCIFs. Am I correct?
To have provided this evidence, obviously, in the SCIFs.
Am I correct?
Yeah, absolutely.
And publicly for many years prior.
Oh, okay.
Where can I go?
Sorry, I should have asked this earlier.
Where can I go to find all of your evidence?
My website, deciphering.tv, is where I have been putting out most of the information.
I would say, actually, let me rephrase this.
My website, deciphering.tv, is where I have been putting out information most recently,
say for maybe about the last year and a half to two years.
Prior to that, I had been utilizing a YouTube page called
Deciphering My Experience. So between the two of those, anybody can go back and basically follow
the progression of my effort to try to connect the dots on all of these topics.
Perfect. And then one more quick one.
Did you personally meet Jake Barber?
Have you personally sat across from him?
To be completely honest,
it sounds like he made it a point to cross my path
at that DC event,
even though I don't recall it.
Like that was like their whole thing.
Like I do recall Fred Baker sitting at the dinner table with me.
I've communicated with him since the event.
I do know that Jake Barber went there to make contact with me, and it seems to have occurred.
But to be honest, I don't actually recall talking to Jake, even though I believe it wholly happened.
That's crazy, because you know, he has that look.
You wouldn't forget it, you know?
I would like to think so, too.
I totally, totally see where you're coming from on that one. And yes, it kind of freaks me out that I'm like, I really believe he talked to me and I don't recall it.
Thank you, Eric.
Thank you, Fringe.
Awesome.
Timothy, welcome to the space.
Do you have a question for Eric.
Timothy, I'm not sure if your mic is open.
Oh, there we have you.
Go ahead.
Yes.
Eric, thank you for your service.
Greatly appreciate it.
I've been following you for some time. My question is, do you think that we are being prepared to an extent for a contention in the near future?
I don't know what you mean by contention in the near future, I guess.
Possibly an event or whether it be natural natural or manmade in the very near future. You know, I, um, I follow the solar, uh, cycles and there's a lot of talk of the 20, early 2030s
of something happening. And I'm just thinking with everything coming out, are we being prepared?
And I take the position where we go either to God or we go to the other way.
Fair enough. that the current controllers of the narrative may put forth an effort with the monopolized technology
to fabricate an event that they hope will allow them to get everybody to align
under what they afford as the best option at the time.
what they afford as the best option at the time.
Understood and appreciated.
And I'm a big fan of yours again
and a big follower of Hermetic Principles.
And hopefully it helps everybody else.
There is a lot to be said for ancient Hermetic Principles.
Yes, thank you.
Thank you, Timothy. Fly, welcome to this space. Yes, thank you.
Thank you, Timothy.
Fly, welcome to this space.
Do you have a question for Eric?
Yes, thank you very much.
You guys are doing a great job today, definitely.
Eric, this is more of just kind of asking your opinion.
How do you feel about this whole Elon Musk SpaceX, right? Because we know the technology exists
that we no longer need chemical rockets.
Do you think he was placed in his position?
Or, you know, what is this about?
I agree.
Chemical rockets are antiquated technology
and a total farce at this point
to even be in the conversation.
And it certainly appears that elon is involved in some
sort of collusion to lead the general population to believe that this is the current limit of man's
advancement technologically and it's very sad to see that people believe that
absolutely and one last thing um some years ago the uh creator of that movie zero point james allen
his death is kind of mysterious right he kind of he had uh got cancer just out of nowhere and
it progressed at an unnatural rate do they have technology that may be able to do something similar to that?
My understanding is they have all kinds of technologies that can do things similar to that and much worse.
Yeah. All right. Amen. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody.
I really appreciate the time.
Thank you. Fly, Diozhan, welcome to the space.
You have a question for Eric.
Yes. Thank you, Fly. Diogen, welcome to the space. You have a question for Eric. Yes, thank you. So, as you said, Eric, the ice cube technology is a neutrino detector.
So, there is no emission. There is no... So, in order to understand the relation with the earthquake, I would like you to explain to
me how is it possible because to my understanding of this technology, as you said, there is
also no neutrino emission.
So is it a scalar waves or and also to what purpose do you think it's a uh collateral damage or they
are doing something that caused this earthquake or they are just aiming like a the purpose of uh
direct energy weapon to make this earthquake for what purpose i mean against uh new zealand i just
trying to understand thank you
you got it and i i want to apologize your questions came in very garbled i'm very happy to answer them
if you could be as so kind as to just simply um give me one question at a time and I will do my best to answer it, sir.
So why would you or we speak about the Ice Cube technology because this technology is just detecting. So which technology, uh, I mean,
maybe you can talk about that or that are causing the earthquake,
because in order to add that, you must have some emission, maybe not a neutrino,
because obviously we don't have this technology yet.
Okay. Follow that question. Question number one, clearly stated, copy that,
um, on my website at deciphering.tv in the archive section, you can look up the DOM document. So what you suggested was that the device is simply a passive listening device. And that is contrary to the information that I have provided is that it also has the capacity to transmit. So that's therein lies exactly what I'm trying to put out publicly,
is that it is not simply just passively listening.
Does that cover question one?
Yes.
And so the question two would be,
do you think it's a collateral damage, this earthquake, or this is just the goal of the operation?
It would seem that earthquake capacity would be part of the desired application of effects.
Even though the primary being science,
I would say that there are secondary and tertiary applications,
and earthquakes appears to be one of them.
And I would, I guess, agree with you
that even just the idea of an earthquake
is inherently collateral damage?
Yeah, because you know which purpose you have to make that to New Zealand, which is a friend of the USA. Also, Antarctica, there is this treaty.
So France have a part of it.
We call it Adélie land.
So we have some rights, but we all agree with other country
to make the purpose to go on Antarctica
is always based on scientific uh argument or reason there is no uh searching for
minerals there is no personal interest that's that's that's the presentation i would agree
with you that that's exactly how it's presented is that it is for scientific research. It is for collaboration.
One of the tenets of the Antarctic Treaty
is that each of the signers of the Antarctic Treaty
reserves the right to go to any of the other facilities
and get involved with inspections
to make sure that everybody's
adhering to the treaty, but no one's doing that.
So it seems like everybody's just agreeing to not look at what
anybody else is doing.
Okay.
So I will go to your decipher check.
Thanks, Diogen. UFO, Sarah, jump in.
Yeah, thank you. Eric, so it's come to my attention that actually it is okay for you to let us know who you met with in both skiffs.
So I'm curious if you can let me know who was in the first congressional skiff that you were in
and then which members of Arrow you met with in the second skiff.
First of all, I spoke in the Senate Intelligence Committee.
And as far as skiffs go, one was the Senate Intelligence
Committee, the second one was Arrow, and there is absolutely nothing that you've come across
that states that I am allowed to communicate with who I spoke with at that facility that
supersedes the paperwork that says I'm absolutely not allowed to.
Okay, because I have someone who is, that you absolutely can.
You tell me who that person is.
I'm just saying that you can absolutely tell us.
No, I cannot. No, I cannot.
No, I cannot.
I signed paperwork.
I signed paperwork.
They said I absolutely cannot or I'm in trouble.
So since I was there and I signed that paperwork,
I know whoever it is that you're talking to is completely full of shit.
I know whoever it is that you're talking to is completely full of shit.
Well, I would like to cross-reference that.
You're cross-referencing it right now.
I was in the SCIF.
I signed paperwork that says I am not allowed.
Yes, but you don't remember the exact dates of them.
It doesn't matter if I remember the exact dates of them.
I remember precisely that I had a conversation
with two investigators from Arrow
that said with great specificity,
I am never to discuss publicly who they are.
You're attempting to tell me that didn't happen.
Go fuck yourself.
How are we doing there, Sarah?
I'm good.
I believe that that's allowed to be said,
and I was going to cross-reference check the calendars
to make sure that this happened.
I mean, I do this for whoever I'm looking for.
By all means, try to prove that it didn't happen.
I'm not...
This isn't a guest.
I'm just saying.
By all means.
I'm just...
I speak with great candor. I apologize. I'm just saying. By all means. I speak with great candor.
I apologize.
I'm a very passionate person.
But what's being presented right now is that you're telling me that someone told you that I'm allowed to do something that I was told specifically I can't.
How do you think that looks from my perspective?
Well, that's fine.
We can have completely different perspectives on this.
Absolutely, because I was there and told not to discuss it.
I'm telling you that, you know,
anyone from this community can tell you I stand with whistleblowers.
Fair enough.
And again, I apologize.
I have no idea who you are.
I'm just going off of this conversation right now.
Correct.
Correct.
And in order for me to go forward and be able to stand on my own and say, hey, this guy
is real, I would like to be able to back all of your stuff.
No problem.
Yeah.
So go back to the person that told you that and tell them they're totally full of shit
because you spoke to the guy that was in the skiff.
I am absolutely going to quote you on that one. There you go. Yeah. Tell them they're full of shit because you spoke to the guy that was in the skiff. I am absolutely gonna quote you.
There you go. Yeah, tell them they're full of shit. Oh, I'm so happy we worked that out. Okay,
who do we have? We have Miss McGillicuddy and then I think we have an audience question.
Hi everybody. Hello Eric. Thank you French and Doom and Sarah for having the space.
I kind of wanted to go have a question off of what Dory alluded earlier in regards to
a very much fully concurred, disappeared interview involving someone with the Lucius Trust.
interview involving someone with the Lucius Trust. In the interview, it kind of spilled
beans in regards to very esoteric occult ritualistic behaviors in what we would maybe
consider the above the military industrial complex. People that Eric, you had mentioned
kind of are the ones doing whatever they're doing here.
What, if any, were your experiences in witnessing any esoteric, occult, ritualistic
things in and around you, anything of that nature? And this does include many processes or protocols, quote, quote, Tim Taylor, that people use for the CE5 stuff.
So I'm wondering if you have the ability to answer that, if you if you witnessed and or saw anything of that nature.
And maybe perhaps secondary question is that the darker or I guess you said evil, behind, excuse me, I have a cold,
is that perhaps because it is involved with the, quote, evil behind why all of these technologies
and these things are hidden from us?
Because some of us out here think so.
So I'm just wondering what your opinion and if you'd witnessed any of that.
I'm going to do my best on that one. I apologize, folks. I am a bit challenged to answer questions when they're a bit longer and complex.
If people want to be very direct, I'll be happy to answer as fast as I can and then get to the second, third, fourth. I'm game.
I'd be happy to answer as fast as I can and then get to the second, third, fourth game.
But in regards to this, I think I got it.
But if I don't answer your question appropriately enough, let me know.
But I think I got it.
So in regards to CE5 stuff, I've tried CE5 stuff.
It hasn't worked for me.
That's my current position on that.
my current position on that. As far as ritualistic stuff and it mattering, I do believe there is
something to be said for things like that. I believe it has to do with more things that I
was involved with as a child, which I would again say, you know, we don't really need to get into
the details of it, but I would say
that I was involved in things that were negative for a child that I would say were aligned with
things that were ritualistic. So I believe there's conversations that do need to be had
about the value of these things and what the implications are.
about the value of these things and what the implications are.
Yeah, thank you.
I just, I do want to know if,
I brought up the CE5 because that's what we're dealing with here in the
psionics.
But those much like what you kind of alluded to earlier are tied to
ancient mystery school stuff.
And I guess I wanted to know if you witnessed anything in the guise of that
realm.
And,
you know,
yeah,
if you witnessed any of that,
in regards to the application of CE five stuff,
I would have to say I'm zero for zero.
Technically.
Um, I, I have tried, I'm open to
the possibility of it. Um, but it has yet to be something that has been battlefield effective for
me. Okay. And, um, there, uh, you know, they've, a lot of people in of people in upper echelons have depended on the masses being what is known as and what they call a cult blind, unaware of symbolism and, you know, calling cards, as well as all the way to rituals and sigils.
Were you privy to anything of that nature?
to anything of that nature. There are a number of, there's an old episode from the confessionals
that was interviewed by, he interviewed a soldier and Tony was talking to him in regards to seeing
something in a fallen craft. And he was there for retrieval, had an experience as well as came
across what a scientist with him referred to as Enochian
language. That's the only reason why I'm asking if you've witnessed any kind of, you know, symbolism,
anything of that nature, because there's a lot that even experiencers have witnessed involving
sigils, symbols, language. There's a big DMT experiment with lasers that is showing that.
Uh, there's a big tmt dmt experiment with lasers that is showing that. Um, i've been doing some research on that involving
Stuff that my autistic son has been telling me so i'm just wondering if there is uh
If you've seen anything to that nature doesn't have to be the ce5 stuff
um, some of these things are are, uh, you know as easy as those people meditating that that woman was speaking of in that in that video that dory mentioned
so, um my my life appears to be um a whole bunch of symbols sigils and experiences that i am
i'm actively trying to decipher i pay attention to these things they happen with great regularity
um but again i mean that's why i started out as a YouTube page with the term deciphering my experience because I'm actively going through trying to figure out all of those things you just mentioned.
Thank you very much for answering my questions.
And so candidly and honestly.
And thank you for being
here thank you for letting me speak everybody thank you miss mcgillicuddy aaron welcome to
the space you have a question for eric yeah thank you um i'd like to start with a statement real
quick and then leading the question just to break it up so it's not kind of a monologue
um eric i've only mentioned one other space i haven't had a chance to look into research i
appreciate hearing more details here tonight of just your your specific narrative story and
where you're coming from what you're bringing forward and i find it hilarious this disagreeableness
of your personality like it doesn't bother me at all it really doesn't like parsing the nuances
from the facts you're presenting and i also appreciate the way that you like you want to
stick to what you know and not speculate and work on actionable intelligence. I just want to tell you
I appreciate you holistically just as a person, man.
And I know you've encountered, I think
you've shared before, just, you know, some people
have a hard time getting past
the personality and seeing what actually is relevant
to the data in the conversation.
I appreciate that. Thanks
for seeing me as someone who's just
doing due diligence that's all
i can do yeah and i think it's a person uh perfectly reasonable for a legitimate hypothetical
legitimate whistleblower to be in a public recorded space talking about evidence to bring
forward that could put them in danger in a very matter-of-factual way and just not wanting to go
out of that lane so i think it's totally reasonable so i think a lot of people don't realize too like
i'm i'm not in these circles
to make friends and if people appreciated how many times bad people reach out to me under the
false pretense of attempting to be friends they really might have a little bit more insight to
the angle from which I operate from yeah exactly that so one of the things that you said that stood
out to me was two things and again
i'm not i don't want you to go far into speculating but just i don't know if you have additional
information maybe something i missed when i initially heard it that you observed uh a
communication or someone shared with you a communication and it was an intergalactic or
intergalactic actual communication like that was the title of it that was the transmission there's
some technology there that we don't even understand like that definitely sparked my interest could
you elaborate on that part i do not recall ever making such a statement
did i mishear that does anyone remember anything like that
erin can you can you repeat that last thing what was the statement you remembered yeah that there
is at one point of just the things you're sharing i mean earlier this has got to be an hour plus ago
um overseeing or hearing from someone some kind of the tech one of the technologies that you were
describing or something was some kind of intergalactic or intergalactic communication
or something that had happened or that happens regularly or something my misrepresent maybe in the or something category
you might have heard earlier we were referencing that um gary mckinnon spoke of an off world fleet
of spaceships and that the south pole station would be the facility that had the capacity to communicate with them.
Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, that articulation, that dynamic makes sense.
So there being technology here specific to Antarctica beyond just the neutrino dynamic detectors,
that there's definitely been things you've come across, either have evidence for directly,
or at least, you know, I've come across firsthand word of mouth or something that you've heard of these additional advanced technologies, primarily
the folks on them, either around the world from the US
or international collaborations.
A lot of it seems to be in Antarctica. Is that correct?
Works for me.
Okay.
Yeah, that's about all I have. That's what stood out
to me. Thanks, guys.
Thanks, Aaron.
Harbinger, welcome to the space.
Do you have a question for Eric?
Yeah.
So with the transient lunar phenomena, where we see bunches of things lighting up on the moon, most likely UFOs and all that good stuff,
can you comment on how far potentially the range of these things can go?
I mean, we have Joe McGonigal saying that there's pyramids on Mars.
And that's my first question.
I'm not following what that question was, sir.
I apologize.
You say we can detect UFOs, let's say, on Earth.
Can it detect as far as things on the moon and even farther?
Oh, okay. I think I follow what you're saying. Um, so the neutrino detector as an array
is detecting neutrinos locally at its site, which is 90 degrees south, uh, South Pole station of this planet.
What occurs in that activity is it learns the trajectory from which the neutrino came,
which certainly, um, is not limited by distance.
Great. Um, and then second question, uh, kind of just looking at how we have, let's say adversaries out there who are investing and kind of just looking at who sort of just the investment of war and technology coming here in the next few years or potentially whatever could happen.
could happen how do you look at all of that knowing potentially we could just be in the
judson's age 100 years ago just any general comments on could it be that an adversary is
catching up and that's what's maybe causing disclosure or anything like that thank you
i guess i'm not following the the application adversary in this equation.
I'm sorry.
Can you give me more clarification?
Essentially.
China is catching up to the United States.
And if there is war, just any kind of comments on with the cabal
and how far the technology they could have.
Is it just a waste?
I think what I would start with is not limiting things to nation
states. They're puppets and things are way above that. We certainly need to be more aware of what
technologies exist, how reality functions, and we need to get beyond the mismanagement and or monopolization
of information does that help yes thank you
thank you harbinger and i think you also had the question i think you put it in the chat
um eric do you think that human technology
is on parity with non-human technology or do you have any opinion on that i would imagine that there
has to be many non-human technologies from civilizations that have been around since time immemorial that would make us pale in comparison to their abilities?
Yeah, actually, now I think about it, yeah, the question I was, I think I was really trying to
ask is looking at like quantum computing. Some people think as we, as we get to the AI singularity,
is that really the point in which maybe let's say they would want to flip the
switch and turn on an alien invasion or a fake alien invasion? And do you have any comments on
that? Thank you. Yeah, I think way too many people think of they as a singular activity.
I think they as many factions fighting to be king of the mountain and because we the majority of people do not
appreciate the activity of the many factions of the minority we keep looking for a culprit
when there's many okay great yeah just yeah if we with the singularity could build ufos we could
potentially be a threat to them and so maybe yeah like you say something could happen
if if we the majority of people on the planet had access to the monopolized technologies, those that monopolize the technologies
wouldn't reap the benefit that the monopoly provides.
And we, the people who lack that information,
lack an appreciation for what that monopoly provides.
Great. Thank you.
Thank you, Harbinger.
Ulrich, put your mic open.
I just wanted to give a nod to Harbinger.
I'm on team anti...
I think that from an NHI perspective
that it's complex,
that there's...
This is just my perspective that there's
warring factions and that there is an effort from one faction to prevent us from becoming singularity
civilization right so i i know where you're coming from but i think eric you're you're very much
you know just nuts and bolts give me the hard hard cold facts are so I understand the perspective
thanks yeah I mean I think that's something that's lacking in society contemporarily
unfortunately is that you know a lot of people will you know come to the table with considerations
and opinions but in reality those things should be destroyed by people with experience and opinions, but in reality, those things should be destroyed
by people with experience and facts.
Yeah, and there's no way that it could hurt us
to be more empiricism-minded, right?
I think that's totally fair.
Nothing wrong with being factually based, right?
Yeah, I mean, it's hard for me to clutch my pearls with that statement. That's totally fair. Nothing wrong with being factually based, right?
Yeah, I mean, it's hard for me to clutch my pearls with that statement.
Ulrich, you're going to have to save all of those juicy questions.
You've got to save those for Giorgiani.
He'll answer all that stuff.
Oh, we will go.
We will definitely.
The problem with the Giorgiani space fringe is that it's 21 hours too short right but we will get as many in there as we as we can uh i'm a speculation guy eric um
and and i i do agree that there should have been a much greater reaction to especially the the specs
that you put out regarding the dom and we we do live in a world where people are psyoped and people aren't really
first principles thinkers when when somebody proves to them that they've been lied to people
are just like well let me just default back to authority right so i just want to affirm yeah
there's a a gaslighting of all of humanity and it is this gaslighting that for me uh forces me into speculation uh
because i do think it's not just humans brainwashing us i think there's some aliens
brainwashing us and i think um speculation cannot be the basis for fact but when you
have an absence of evidence it's it's also partly unavoidable yeah and i'm not even opposed to that but my my brain still goes to like um
priorities right if it turns out that there are aliens brainwashing us i believe that that would
mean that there's also humans brainwashing us working with those aliens and we have to go
through steps we have to get through obstacle number one before we get through obstacle number two,
and that's just the reality of life.
The vast majority of our problems
contemporarily are imposed by other humans,
not non-human intelligence.
So to me, we have to overcome obstacle number one
and then worry about obstacle number two.
I totally agree with this problem-solving approach.
That's totally fair.
Yeah, I think just in general, this is just a general comment.
Eric, we are wrapping up on questions.
We don't have any more questions in the queue.
I think in general, the community in general wants whistleblowers.
They want whistleblowers. They want wants whistleblowers. They want whistleblowers. They want firsthand
whistleblowers, but I've only been around the community for about two years and there's never
been a whistleblower that was good enough for the community. So no matter what happens in this
space of ufology, no whistleblower is good enough everyone is lying everyone is grifting he could
never have done that i worked that same job and that couldn't have happened i mean we just keep
hearing this constantly um now i'm not someone who believes every person is telling the entire
truth about everything either but it just seems to me that there is no witness or whistleblower
who's been good enough for this community, since I've been around anyway.
Well, that's a fair assessment because, again, back to the conversation of who has provided actionable intelligence or not.
These are very fair questions to be asked.
And I agree with you.
99.9% of people in the disclosure circles have provided zero actionable intelligence.
Therein lies the problem.
It looks like we have a couple more questions.
Eric, are you okay for a few more minutes?
I'm game.
All right, excellent.
Chris, welcome back.
Well, I'm going to take the opportunity if nobody else wants to ask questions.
In the neutrino front, Eric, are you aware of the works of Bob Greenier?
I have not heard of this person.
Okay. You might. He's deep into the neutrinos and what we've been talking about today.
Do you think it's solely position on the Earth that allows them to set the array up there?
And is it got to do with the ice as a capture?
Or just as a holder for such a large array
um what was the the first part of that question well the neutrino array down there do you think
um i'm aware of like i remember the geometry stuff that you've gone through before
do you oh well that's right is it is there pertinence to its location yes i i do believe
there is pertinence to the um location of this device being at 90 degrees south geomagnetic on
the south pole and follow-up question would be do you think that the move for the continent of Greenland is connected to this kind of detection broadcast array?
I think the acquisition of Greenland is indicative of other nefarious activities that have yet to be divulged, and they're attempting to try to cover it up before it's found out.
Well said, sir.
Real quick, Eric, just to clear up any confusion that might have come from that last question with Sarah, did the Aero people, and I'm going back to the SCIF testimony here, did the Aero people tell you you could not discuss the names of either party, of the congressional people who are supposed to be public, and also the Aero SCIF?
Real quick, Eric, just to clear up any confusion that might have come from that last question with Sarah.
Or was it just your impression that you couldn't discuss the
names of anyone who was involved in either of those briefings? It was very clear from the Arrow
personnel that I was not to discuss the Arrow personnel involved. Okay, got it. Are you able
to tell us who was in the congressional SCIF? I am able to in as far as I'm under no NDA to not discuss who they are.
I just don't remember their names. I don't recall.
Okay, fair enough. I just wanted to clear that up. I think there was just some misunderstanding there.
Fair enough. I just wanted to clear that up. I think there was just some misunderstanding there.
No worries. And for clarification, too, I don't even remember the as soon as the dudes in Arrow were like, you're not allowed to discuss who we are.
I was very happy to be like, I'm not even going to try to remember who you are then because I'm not looking to get in trouble for this stupid detail.
Yeah, totally. And as far as the congressional members, did it seem like anyone you were already familiar with?
Or did it just seem like no names?
Or was it staffers?
I mean, do you even know?
It did not seem like, I shouldn't say seem.
It was not anybody in that room that I was previously familiar with.
Okay, fair enough.
Thanks for that.
Aaron, were you up next uh yeah i believe so thanks
um so uh i mean we're three and a half hours in now so i'm trying to conglomerate kind of all the
dynamics and things that have been shared eric but out of all the things you shared obviously
some things that can be uh confirmed in some ways publicly public information but what are the
primary things that you've shared that are uh not publicly accessible information beyond your personal
experiences or stories but actual documents or evidence that will lead to things you're saying
is my first question
i i think i'm not quite following your question sir sir. I apologize. Like, um, in, in the way I'm receiving, it was like, almost like, what do you know?
That's not available.
But yet I think the vast majority of what I know is available, which is the peculiarity.
Uh, which will not be a peculiarity, but also like kind of Adrian right information saturation
so that if you're just paying attention the info maybe is out there so that's I mean one
hand that's good right so if whistleblowers come forward in all realms and spheres they can share
a story and it's easier for people to find corroborating information but sometimes
whistleblowers come forward with not just their own personal stories or experiences but additional
documents over time or pictures they've taken or things just along the way.
I just, I don't remember.
Besides what's also...
Okay, so what you're providing for your whistleblowing dynamic is your personal experiences in the situations you've been in.
No, I also have documentation on my website.
Okay, but we're pulling all from publicly internet accessible places.
There's not additional documentation you're adding personally because of your
experience that only you have access to
because you pulled this out of the system because of your
access and have added this to
documentation. Does that make sense? Like you're on unique
because of your...
Yes, I think I know where you're going. Yes.
Okay.
Following that vein, my unique experience
exclusively provided me
the understanding to go to public information that was available and bring it to light.
Okay.
All right.
No, that makes sense.
Okay.
That part's that part.
The second part would be when you say actionable intelligence, to me, I guess I was trying to piece that together.
To me, that means like judicially prosecutable evidence.
So do you feel like what you've compiled from the Internet and also personal experience, I feel I can confirm that.
And obviously the skiffs, I get that, too.
But that's why you're the only whistleblower.
You feel like you've compiled enough Internet evidence from the Internet.
Plus, your experience is it's the only judicially, whether it's America, whatever court system, it's judicially prosecutable evidence.
That's what you mean by actionable intelligence?
I guess in that vein also, I would say what I mean by actionable intelligence is an actual location with actual nefarious activities that are worthy of further inspection so by all means yes invade the south pole station because
i've provided actionable intelligence to a legitimate location unlike all the other
whistleblowers who have done nothing of the such okay i got i got you i think i see what
serious saying in that like the information you're providing, at the very least, even if it's not through some mainstream, you know, I don't even remember an email, Luna something, you know, TV, whistleblower, congressional hearing, whatever, even through even sharing, because you've been in three hours, three and a half hours.
Not every human does this.
It may, I guess, be a grifting or something.
I did take the time to go to Washington, D.C. and give this testimony to the parties that claimed they were going to do something with it.
What else am I supposed to do?
Yeah, no, fair enough.
And that's what I'm saying.
So it sounds like to me what you're making, actual intelligence to you is what you piece together is some form, shape or form or entity, whether it's through a judicial america system whether it's through some even now because you've shared it some kind of independent
private entity goes and actually invades or whatever does some kind of mission in art
antarctica retrieves more evidence or something the fact that you're whistleblowing you're trying
to get people in general wherever it comes from to pay more attention to what's going on in
antarctica am I summarizing that?
Okay.
Work works for me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
People should be doing something about this because this, this is the
definition of actionable intelligence.
Unlike the information that others have provided that did not give us a location,
a system, a group of personnel to address. address i mean no one else is saying here's where
the problem is yeah no that i mean that works for me man i mean at least for summarizing i just want
to make sure i'm understanding your correct where you come from and what you're trying to say and so
yeah absolutely i i have a location and i have documentation that provides that this location is worthy of action.
Nobody else seems to be doing the same.
Gotcha.
Okay, I'll throw one last question.
I'll go get two hands.
So even with all that said, no one you've come across, there's no one.
Do you not go across YouTube looking for similar information?
You've come across not a single person.
You're like, I think that guy's onto something legit.
I don't know who he is or whatever.
There's no one else you've looked into, not a single person you could refer to.
It's interesting to go talk to or look at.
Incorrect.
People can go inquire with Dark Journalist.
He's doing exemplary work in regards to how Antarctica incorporates to all of the historical activities
that we are now having come to fruition contemporarily. Other folks that people could
look into are Michael Schrat, Joseph P. Farrell, Walter Bosley. All of these people seem to be doing great research in regards to a history of decades of activity of high technology up to and including things like the term breakaway civilizations.
Awesome. Well said. That's what I was looking for. Thank you for elaborating on the dynamics you feel are valid and helpful.
So I think that probably helps other people. So that's it for me, guys.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, Aaron.
Sarah, Sarah B., welcome to the space.
Hey, thanks for holding the space.
I meant, sorry, I heard a little tidbit
about Greenland get brought up.
And I was wondering if, Eric,
if you've heard any interesting rumors
or offhanded remarks about this interesting city under the ice called Camp Century
in Greenland that was kind of written about
November 2024. Yeah, absolutely.
It's been written about exhaustively for years before that as
well. I can attest to the information that I have seen
about the construction of that facility
being identical to the construction of the facility at the South Pole Station.
So it begs the question, how similar are these facilities when the facility in Greenland was
known to harbor a nuclear power supply and nuclear armaments? So, you know, this is where we get into what's
what's really what's really going on in this world and who's telling the truth and how many people
actually have direct first-hand experience and actionable intelligence versus how many are just operating in disclosure circles because they
have a vested interest to assist in covering the fucking corporate liability of the asses they work
for. Thank you for your response. Cause I wanted to say thank you for mentioning that this is not
the first time they said they rediscovered this whole
camp century business like they're kind of framing it that way when i know john keel literally talked
about this facility back in the 70s you know so i appreciate your feedback on that eric
thank you sarah eric how are you doing we have a couple more people are requesting. How are you feeling on time? I'm doing great. Fire away.
All right.
Let's see who we got. I think it's going to be Dakota.
He's in La La Land.
Dakota, welcome to the space.
Do you have a question for Eric?
Dakota Bruh.
Is that it?
Is it Dakota Bruh? There might be more to that name. I can't
see it from where I'm at. How is your mic working, Dakota?
Hey. Hey, sorry about that. My mic was off. Thanks for the time, Eric. I just had a really
quick question. I noticed Giorgiani was mentioned earlier, and part of his theory is that
Antarctica is actually Atlantis
and if all the ice melted
we'd find a whole bunch of megalithic structures and stuff
I was just wondering about your thoughts on that
I'm open to that level of possibility for sure
okay that was my only question
thanks For sure. Okay. That was my only question. Thanks.
Thank you, Dakota. Your mic's still open.
I can close it for you if you don't hear me.
Uh, Casey, welcome to the space.
Do you have a question for Eric?
Oh yeah.
Um, really for appreciate you for doing this space, Eric.
I saw you on Emma's, um, you, you did Emma's, you did a full interview with Emma, right?
Yes, that's correct.
Yeah, I'm an interviewee.
I did a three-hour interview with Emma as well,
and I wanted to reach out to you with a couple of questions very very specific. So my background is 29 years. I've been providing free support to survivors
of sexual trauma, primarily through Hollywood. But in the last, I'm going to say six years,
I've been working with a lot of abductees and there's a lot of overlap between the MKUltra
between the MKUltra, Ritual Abuse and Area 51.
And so given your firsthand knowledge
and with my knowledge of working with survivors for 29 years,
I've worked firsthand with a lot of people
who feel that they were hybridized,
augmented genetically by these networks,
be it the MyLab systems or satanic
ritual abuse or all of them working together with the Luciferian Brotherhood that runs the planet,
so forth. So my question is, is it all one nefarious group of individuals? know demons aliens are aliens demons and and what is your spiritual perspective on that
i think we get um all too often involved with trying to reduce all of our problems down to
one group i think that's a huge mistake. I think there are many competing factions vying for whatever you want to call it, the power of the people.
Okay, so having said that, knowing that Underdog was right, that there really is a group of individuals that are trying to take over the globe and enslave us all.
through MKUltra, torture-based mind control, that so forth,
in order to hybridize humanity for alien beings?
Nothing, I guess.
Have you considered maybe, like, I'd love to sit down with you
and compare notes because I think there's a lot of overlap.
So I'll just say what I'm thinking, that is that um you look to the news and
notice kepler 2 is all over the news have you noticed like that i'm sorry i didn't catch that
because it was i said have you noticed that kepler 2 is all over the news right now
um no i haven't i'm really going back to my own experiences but so what what i'm just going to say
and i've said this in many ufo rooms is that have you considered that gray aliens are probably
human dolphin hybrids and that the tall whites are probably definitely not they're definitely
not so let me explain something to you do you know why the tall whites wear
go ahead casey uh we'll let thomas come back up in a minute go ahead and finish your question Do you know why the tall whites were?
Go ahead, Casey.
We'll let Thomas come back up in a minute.
Go ahead and finish your question.
Okay, so what are your feelings?
Because I've worked with a lot of survivors, super soldier survivors, who have been augmented, and I believe that I was as well.
My mother was MKUltred.
So with these hybridization programs and working with
humanity again um what are your feelings about the possibility that gray aliens are dolphin
human hybrids that tall whites are beluga human hybrids that sasquatch are wolf human hybrids
and um what do you know if anything at, about the hybridization program with these various genetic programs?
I know nothing about them.
I don't see anybody bringing up any actionable intelligence on them.
And with that being said, I suggest we prioritize our efforts and energies on things that are more actionable
intelligence. Okay, and my last question to you is, have you seen any of the testimonies from the
50voices.org? And if so, have you seen any correlation between people who were tortured in satanic ritual abuse and alien abductees?
I guess I'm not familiar with this 50 voices angle either.
Yeah, I would encourage you to check that out because there's a lot of overlap.
And so ever since I saw your interview on Emma, I've been wanting to reach out to you.
So, yeah, thank you for your time.
I appreciate you.
Thank you, Casey.
We have Thomas.
Thomas, welcome to the space.
Do you have a question for Eric?
Thomas, are you with us?
Are you just going to play music for us?
Are you with us now?
Sorry, sorry. I was talking to you. Are you with us? Are you just going to play music for us? Are you with that? Hello? Sorry.
Sorry.
I was talking to you.
Thomas.
Wait.
This guy's reminding me of that pirate.
What's the movie?
Johnny Depp movie?
The pirate?
Yeah.
Thomas, if you have a question or if you can get your AI DJ under control We'll give you another chance
First of all if you call me a bot one more time this really is starting to piss me off
You know being called a fucking robot all the time
Oh hold on where where's the drop down button? I haven't dropped anybody down in ages fringe
Can you I just dropped him down and then I let him back up so I mean
Can you even do this from an iPadad i said you're a idj i
assume you have some robot that didn't call you a robot all right so we'll we'll put him a little
put him a little time out uh who's who's next french yeah that's it we got thomas
coming weirdly hot first of all you you are an egotistic prick
Can you please
Can you announce it one second
I need to
I'll give you a chance to speak
You're an absolute egotistic idiot
You're the perfect 1% of humanity
I mean, you know
You see your ego
Yeah, it's what's going to do
Does anybody know
Is he talking to you Ulrich
oh my gosh he got through the mute button
is he talking to you Ulrich or is he talking to Eric
do we know because he's gotten through the mute button
he's got superpowers
somebody with a big ego is being attacked
and now we don't know whether it's me or Eric
next time you try and put me in time out
I will literally pull your ass right into
oh it's you Ulrich it's you, Ulrich. It's you.
It's me. Yeah, Eric.
I'll pull your fucking bitch ass into the horizon.
I'll give you a chance to speak, I promise.
I won't even interrupt you.
Do you know how to fucking rotate you?
Do you know how to rotate?
I just want to notate in my man journal.
You know what?
I'll be quiet.
What would you like me to call you?
Strawberry? Omega?
That's a good point.
Now mute yourself.
Yeah, yeah.
And I'll have a conversation.
There's plenty of room in the world
for the unintelligent also.
Well, I don't know about that, Eric.
You and I might disagree.
I think there shouldn't be this much room.
This is probably irresponsible.
But Strawberry, sweetheart, go ahead.
What's your question for Eric?
First of all, don't call me sweetheart.
Right?
Because I'm not no sweetheart.
Only my wife can call me sweetheart, right?
I suppose that, right?
So calm your Sam Smith self down.
Stop Sam Smithing.
Strawberry it is.
Strawberry, what is your question for Eric?
I don't have a question for Eric.
I just want to say whoever said time out, yeah.
They are hilarious.
Do you know what time out?
Do you know how to fucking bend time?
Do you understand anything about quantum mechanics?
Yeah.
Do you understand my Kepler 2? i could be wrong but my understanding is
is there a way around this ridiculousness yeah he's gone just indulging me i just wanted a fish
to dangle on on a string for a little bit
i thought you had to alter the refraction index and uh change c i thought that's how you distort
time um but it could i could be mistaken there eric i want to say thank you for coming into the
doom room and we do have a question from harbinger uh go ahead harbinger uh yeah so uh for the skywatcher company obviously jake barber's
part of it um he's not the one you know he's not i guess i should say the leader or whatever it is but
um what's your thought on as they are just assessing and they're saying hey this could
be both blue and red or um nh i what's your thought on skywatchers just taking just kind of a neutral
approach to,
or at least attempting to take a neutral approach to just assessing what's
in our skies.
I don't think they're taking a neutral approach and I think they're total
fucking con jobs.
Thanks.
Tell us. I mean, you gotta love the honesty here. You guys. Yeah. Thanks. Tell us how you really feel.
I mean, you've got to love the honesty here, you guys.
Eder, is it Eder?
Eder, you might be our last question.
Eder, do you have a question for Eric?
No, not now.
I just want to listen to you.
Okay, perfect.
I do see Sarah with her hand up, Sarah B.
Oh, I don't see Sarah B. Thanks.
All right, go ahead, Sarah.
So that was a really funny response to the Skywatcher thing.
I would say I loved the egg.
I think that it started out weird and zany but now
it's all just like oh it's not as weird and high strange as i thought it could be
but whatever i mean people think it's not weird and it's just it's just so it's it's like there's
a lot of camo and like humvees and weird headgear and they're all in the desert and it's a lot of
like really buff military men
it's very it's called it's called production yeah you know what i mean it feels like strange right
and i'm yeah it's called production it's called it's called it's called all the world is a stage
yeah that's what i was going to kind of ask you eric because that's kind of the vibe i'm feeling
right now with this whole narrative push and i was wondering if you well you know your philosophy
of our reality do you find it to be
kind of akin to a matrix
or strange hologram or anything
like that like what's your read on
all of this phenomenon
and stuff it appears everybody's very happy
to eat a bullshit sandwich served by
Jake Barber and company and Arrow
we do have some buff military men who are tuning in i i just
want to state that creatine nitric oxide and a great workout routine do not destroy psionic
abilities i just want to point that out i would i would remind all of these people that they took an oath to protect everybody against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Again, I have no problem with the people.
I don't know them, but it's very particular theme, right?
Is what I was trying to maybe convey.
What's the particular theme
you're conveying well you know like the sky watcher thing it's very i don't know it has a
certain flavor of i don't know very militarized sort of thing right and like an operation officials
you know that operation yes yeah and it's it feels like the... Well, I'd love to hear from anthropologists,
biologists, and like scholars
and academics, but there's just a lot of ammo.
But instead you get to hear from Jake
Barber, who's a helicopter pilot.
So it feels like I'm getting 2% of the
story with no nuance, and they're filling in
the story for me.
Yep.
since we're on this topic... Oh,ah go ahead oh no i was just agreeing sorry
frange go ahead so since we're on the topic of skywatcher so it was my impression eric that
barber and baker and coleheart and all of them were actually on board with the nefarious human
activities because i could have sworn i heard coleheart kind of switch over from believing Coolheart and all of them were actually on board with the nefarious human activities.
Because I could have sworn I heard Coolheart kind of switch over from believing that the
NHI were nefarious to directing it more toward human activities.
Are you saying that that's not the case or that's just not what's being presented to
I'm not following how you presented that there.
I apologize.
No, it's probably me.
So I'm trying to differentiate between Barber and Baker and the whole Skywatcher crew versus what you're saying here today.
I think you're kind of in the Greer camp, right?
That's most, if not all of the nefarious activities, the abduction activities, et cetera, is being perpetrated by humans.
And it's been in the last few months that I've heard Coldheart,
who's on the Jake Barber crew, kind of saying the same thing.
So I thought you guys were all on the same page there.
Well, no, we're not all on the same page
because everybody else seems to be kind of teetering, right?
Actually, I shouldn't say everybody else is teetering.
I'm of the opinion that it's mostly human activity.
Greer seems to be teetering.
And the Barber Colt Heart crew seems to be of the opinion that it's not man-made and we don't have the technology that's what i
mean the ufos that they're coming across is that what you mean right yes got it got it got it okay
yeah i think i understand harbinger go ahead um have you ever heard of the theory of directed
energy being used on 9-11 and have any opinions on it oh i've I've totally heard it, and I believe it's a worthy topic of discussion.
I'm trying to remember who, was it Dr. Judy Wood, if I remember correctly?
Yes.
Did the documentary Irrefutable, where she discusses the concept of directed energy weapons being applied for that event.
So, yeah, I'm open to the concept.
Jessica, I can't see a hand up. Did you have a question for Eric?
Oops, I did. Yes, are you able to hear me? Yep, go right ahead.
So I guess I thought that Barber was one of the first people to mention psionic assets or like to speak about psionics.
And so to me, that was sort of his purpose. Like I'm sure some of the stuff he said was fabricated.
I think he even mentioned that that's just kind of how it works.
Like if you want to talk about this stuff as an ex-intelligence agent and you want to write a book or something,
you have to make it fiction in some sense. So I did think that he was doing some of that,
like trying to weave in fiction with the truth. But the psionic asset part, I'm on board with to the degree that I also think it's mostly human driven. And I feel like there probably is a big disagreement at some of the
highest levels about how much to disclose to the public, because due to the fact that right now
people are saying it's alien or they don't know what it is, that prevents it from being shot down
a lot of the time, right? So it gives, it probably gives whoever has this technology the ability to be safer than they would otherwise.
If you know for sure that that's an enemy craft, then you're going to react differently, right?
So I'm not really sure what the right answer is. I kind of feel like everyone that has spoken out
has furthered the conversation, but I just don't know how we're ever going to get to like, okay,
this is the answer. This is what we do.
If no one's really able to tell the full truth, it seems.
Well, if nobody's able to get through the filters of telling the truth,
which in this conversation seems to be Arrow,
if a whole bunch of whistleblowers go to Arrow, give their testimony, and then those whistleblowers are not tapped to then move that information forwards.
Instead, that testimony is taken and then rewritten and handed to other supposed whistleblowers to disseminate i would say we got a real fucking serious problem in the disclosure
community because the people that gave the information aren't the ones that are being
forwarded to the community we're getting intermediaries how come
was that helpful for you jessica
Was that helpful for you, Jessica?
I'm going to assume it was.
Eric, I think we just, oh, that's okay.
Sometimes, where's your?
Yeah, no, I was just, yeah, go ahead.
I was on mute.
I apologize, but I think you're right.
Like, I think they're deliberately avoiding letting firsthand witnesses or people with
firsthand stories, you know, speak to the people that are gathering
this information. So I guess we can put in something online. But yeah.
Right. So there were other whistleblowers that went to Washington, D.C. with me to testify.
Okay. How come the general public isn't having those people presented to them with the same level of investment of other selected individuals that didn't actually go and testify, i.e. Jake Barber, i.e. Fred Baker. I mean, what the hell is going on in disclosure?
And how come the general community isn't up in arms about this debacle?
It blows my mind.
Yeah, it's definitely a limited hangout, as they say, I guess.
That's a good way to put it, Jessica.
Definitely living in hangout. it's kind of what i was
kind of referencing before i mean if you see what's happening behind the scenes in the community
they they are you know reaching out to people who have been involved in mk ultra programs to come
forward to be uh their psionic assets so just that right right there is a problem. Eric, I think we just
kind of skipped over some breaking news. You just broke some news in the space. And that was,
you said Greer is teetering. Can you keep going on that?
I think so.
I mean, in as far as the information about Jake Barber and, I mean, how I got to Washington, D.C., where things are at now, Greer seems to be somewhat in between supporting what Jake Barber says and going against him.
So I guess that would be where I would say he's kind of teetering
because Jake seems to be of the position that we do not have these technologies available to the general population.
Well, I shouldn't say the general population.
The elite groups of the planet. Does that make sense?
Where Barbara's stating to the contrary and Greer seems to be kind of in between.
Okay.
I definitely misunderstood that one.
So, but Greer still then of the opinion that the non-humans or the aliens, whatever you want to call them,
are benevolent.
That does seem to be his position on it, that they're benevolent, but also the least amount
of activity that's being observed, whereas Barbara's coming from the angle of humanity in total doesn't have this stuff.
Yes, that makes sense. Thank you.
J.J., go ahead.
Okay, so I asked you before who else has testified.
You just said you had a whole slew of other people
coming to testify with you.
So, did you not meet those
people? Like, how do you know
there were others?
I did meet
them.
So, they were first-hand witnesses,
you're saying?
Yeah, these were folks that
testified to having first-hand encounters
okay so okay because before you said there weren't you were the only one
that's all these these these were these were other people's first-hand encounters who admittedly
first-hand encounters who admittedly had no proof.
I see.
So you're saying they just had their stories?
Yeah, I mean, they have their experiences,
but admittedly they have no proof to back up their own experiences.
Okay.
And another thing is you said Barber thinks that they don't have the tech, whereas I think
when he was talking to, like, maybe I'm wrong, but I think when he was talking to Coldheart,
he did say that they had, like, 12 of these eggs in the garage or something.
Like, they're nothing.
They're, like, throwaways.
So I don't really see where he's
saying what you're you're saying he said like I'm not on anyone he I I I get where you're coming
from but he never stated this is our text so therein lies the discrepancy you're identifying
the discrepancy you're identifying he has yet to make that leap to say this is technology we have
he is literally coming from the opposing side saying this is no technology that we know of
therein lies the lie uh i don't know i'd have to re-see the the whole interview but i mean to admit that they've got
the tech that's one thing and maybe there's like dobster maybe he's not allowed to say certain
things so that he's not a whistleblower and he's just admitting to what he's allowed to
which makes him full of crap in this conversation Jay you good
Yeah
Yeah I'm fine
You can keep going
I know what you're saying Jay
I think
I think Barbara has mentioned
Classified craft
That he's dealt with
Out on the range or wherever it was.
I don't know what else to say.
So maybe it's just the level of technology that they're not admitting.
He says, exactly.
He says they're classified and they're not allowed to admit to it,
which goes to show he is a man on a short leash and simply doing what he's told
and isn't a whistleblower.
He is operating under somebody else's authority for what he's allowed to say.
Jay, you good on that?
Yeah, so my question is, this might be some sort of soft disclosure.
I don't know.
It could be, you know, like, basically they're trying to say, look, you're not there.
That's exactly what they're trying to say, look, you're not there. That's exactly what they're doing.
Therein lies the problem,
is they're controlling the narrative of where people look.
That's the problem.
Right.
I mean, I'm of a wait and see kind of.
I've already waited and seen. jake barber has already stated publicly
that he went to washington dc in june of 2023 to gather information on the actual whistleblowers
to help facilitate fbi arrests and or according to dr greer to perform wet works jake barber is
a fucking scumbag and should be treated accordingly.
I mean, I can
appreciate that position, Eric.
It's personal for you.
It's very personal. I got skin in the game
on this one.
What about Rush?
Everyone
loves Rush. Nobody
says a bad word about him.
I do. I do. and how is it that everybody
has this opinion without an amount of investment in that opinion existing
the fact that he came forward when nobody else did uh came forward when nobody else did he came
forward a week after everyone else did.
But that was just scheduling.
It didn't have anything to do with.
That was scheduling that had everything to do with.
Okay, let's move on.
We have two more hands up.
Harbinger and then Daz.
I'm sure you have, but how many times have you been threatened, and in which manner,
if you can say?
I can't even begin to count the amount of times that I have been threatened, and in
the amount of manners, I guess I would say probably all.
Thank you. manners i guess i would say probably all thank you thank you harbinger does welcome to the space
hi there um yeah i just want to ask a question um so to get this right from eric all the whistleblowers that have come forward
over the last 18 months the ones that have credible records that we've all seen um you know
and they've all been backed up by some very credible people he's saying that they are not
giving any actionable intelligence even though we've had them say, Jake Barbara said he can walk Congress into
the facilities to show them the craft, where the craft are, who's working on the craft.
He's claiming that that's not actionable evidence yet.
And he also said just now that he and his friends went to get their testimony, but all
they have is stories with nothing to back up.
And he's claiming he's the whistleblower and they're not,
they're not the whistleblowers.
Yeah. And I, I just want to add to Eric, uh, Daz,
you bring up some really great points, Eric.
I'd like to hear your feedback on this because also Jason Sands,
when he gave his, um, uh,
when he, ah, my mind's going, uh, when he gave his testimony, he gave them places and locations and whatnot.
I mean, and I've seen his paperwork.
So that's sort of where I am right now.
And I back Jason on many things just based on seeing all of his paperwork.
So, Daz, I think you bring up some great points.
Over to you, Eric.
What was the question?
The question was, all the witnesses that have come forward,
the whistleblowers that come
forward, Grush and all the others over the last 18 months have provided to Congress
testimony of where the craft, the bodies and everything are, who's working on them, how
they're working on them.
They've provided actionable data.
You're claiming you are the only one out there that's providing actionable data. And then you also say that when you and your friends went to get this testimony,
you had nothing to back up your stories.
So how are you the only valid whistleblower out there and everyone else isn't?
Well, for starters, you misconstrued a lot of the information that was presented.
lot of the information that was presented. That's your error. I certainly did not say that I had
That's your error.
no information to back up what I said. I certainly accused other parties of not having information to
back up what they said. And the way that I can prove that is I can provide a location right now. It's called 90 degrees south.
That's a location that is worthy of discussion.
You had mentioned that other people have provided locations
worthy of consideration.
I have yet to hear those locations.
So I, um, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm mean that they haven't provided i'm not believing that you
have this supposed actionable intelligence nor that it was provided i thumb my nose at that
statement but anyone can like like i can say okay you know i'm a whistleblower i can provide
actionable data of area 51 and give you coordinates that i pick off of a map just
like you're you're doing that's not actionable data these people have that's not just what i'm
doing you're laying you're laying you're laying false accusations at my friend well yes because
you said your friends had no data i didn't say my friends i I said me. I said I have actionable intelligence.
You are totally bastardizing the conversation.
That's not what I said.
That's not what I said.
You said your friends that you took out no data.
No, I didn't say that.
I never would say such a thing.
You said it.
I never said that I had no information.
And I never said I was speaking on your behalf. I never said that i had no information and i never said i was speaking on the data i never said such a thing and does do me a favor eric and does both of you have enough
time to speak i just wanted one by one all right so i'm i'm going to give a a recap i never spoke
on behalf of anybody else and i never said that i had no information to back up what i said this person's out of their mind so i'm i'm just going to give a recap and both of you can have
the opinion that each of you are out of your mind but there's no need for the the talking over so
i'm going to try to step in here as as a ringleader my my understanding eric of what you're saying is the aero interviewees that with exception to you
there was no actionable intelligence provided and i think this is what daz is recapping got it i can
copy that i can follow that they're not my friends um these are other whistleblowers so yes there are
liberties being taken here that i disagree with. Okay.
And Daz, is that a fair recap of what you were paraphrasing?
Yes, it's a fair recap.
He's saying that the people we know with credible records that have provided to Congress actionable data,
he's saying that they haven't,
and his people that he took with him have
and they obviously didn't.
Yes, I'm saying that yes,
I would agree with that statement. They do not
have actionable intelligence. That is
correct. But you're also
saying that you're the
only whistleblower with actionable data
and that's not correct.
I would disagree with you and say
that is correct.
Eric, just before you respond,
Daz, I don't think that,
even though Eric is associated with them,
I don't think that they're like one entourage.
I don't think he took the other, you know,
Arrow interviewees with him.
Like, he's, you know what I mean?
I think he's spoken with them.
They might be friends,
but I don't think that they're like one unit. i think that and eric what i understand that yeah please please
it's it's it's difficult enough right right now sarah i'll let you jump in but let let me try to
handle this right now um so eric's position is the the 40plus whistleblowers, the witnesses that are provided via Grush,
that because the public hasn't seen this evidence, your take is, Eric, that this evidence isn't
substantial because it could just entirely be invented, right? But if it was substantial,
then it would be legitimate. But because we can't see it, it's not really substantiated evidence. And Daz, your take is coordinates are not enough to say substantiated
evidence. I could go to Google Maps and provide the coordinates for Area 51. The interesting thing
I would like to know is beyond what we've heard in interviews, let's say, Eric, was there, what evidence do we not know of, or are we missing
that was provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee in the SCIF, and or Arrow in the
SCIF? And then I'll let both of you respond to each other.
Let me see if I can help with the confusion on this, maybe. Michael Herrera is somebody
who gave testimony in Washington, D.C. alongside me. Michael Herrera is somebody who gave testimony in Washington, D.C. alongside me.
Michael Herrera is somebody who I would consider a friend of mine. Michael Herrera is someone who agrees with me that his testimony lacks actionable intelligence unlike my testimony.
Does that help? Yeah that that position is is fair
but in in terms of the intelligence that you provided to the two skips is there anything
um that we that we missed that we're misinterpreting is it more actionable than simply simply like a set of coordinates it sounds to me like everybody's missing um the pertinence
of apparently what a set of coordinates means entirely that's what it sounds like to me
and and that's fair that's like like like like like michael herrera's testimony right so michael
herrera gave his testimony but in reality we can all agree there's nothing that can be done
with his testimony there's no actions to be taken at the moment with his testimony, Michael Herrera agrees with me that my testimony
is actionable because we have a location and technologies and personnel that can
be addressed through action.
How people, how people are missing this blows my mind
and that's totally fair i'm just summarizing the arguments because i i don't think there's a
need for for you guys to talk over each other i'm really just trying to play referee here
um be beyond the coordinates and i'm not going to trivialize them all right because you were
you were there you were on site um was there anything else that you provided them uh was it specs of the
of the doms was there anything else that they they took into custody in terms of evidence yes
absolutely there was other evidence i provided um are you permitted uh to talk of uh any of that
yeah absolutely that evidence has been available for years prior to me giving it in Washington, D.C.
It's on my website in the archive section.
It's called the DOM document.
Thank you so much.
And I want to give Daz a chance to fully respond.
Everybody, please let Daz speak uninterrupted.
And then I think we can move on after that.
Daz, go ahead.
Yeah, I still disagree in that Eric's statements were, you know,
all the other whistleblowers haven't provided actionable evidence,
and he has.
They provided facilities of where this kind of activity was happening,
who was doing it, and what they were doing
And even several congress members have said that they've received that information
They too now know where this kind of stuff's happening
So that is absolutely actionable evidence
It's just that that hasn't been made public to us yet
But that's because it's going through specifics in congress
So his statements that he's the only whistleblower of actionable evidence
is just incorrect.
You literally just said that they haven't made it public yet.
My information is public.
So you're supporting my position that my information
is the only public actionable intelligence.
All right. Well, those two positions are clear.
You gentlemen are both entitled to your opinions.
UFO Center, thank you for letting me step in and try to be a referee here.
And then I'll hand it back over to you.
And then I think Jessica has her hand up after that as well.
well. Oh, no, I was trying to clarify. I agreed with Daz. I think I just don't remember you
Oh, no, I was trying to clarify. I agreed with Daz.
saying public every time you would say, I'm sorry, Eric, you know, that you were the,
this entire time I've been only hearing you say, I am the only one that has substantial evidence,
which is fine. I do look forward to, and I'm going to ask you, once you receive your
Arrow testimony back, will you be making that public? And if you do, would you please let us
know in the community? I'm very excited to see that. I absolutely plan on making it public. I'm
not the person in the community that says that I can't say things. I'm very public with all information that comes to me
as fast as I receive it, unlike other people who say I'm not allowed to discuss that.
I'm good. Thank you.
Jessica, and then I believe we have Harbinger, and I think that's the last of the questions.
Jessica, go ahead.
Sure, thank you.
I'm definitely someone who has no restrictions, sort of, because I'm not in the intelligence
community, but I do know that the retaliation is very well real, and I also know that this
started on U.S. soil earlier than they're admitting to and that the
intelligence community did in fact take action. So there's evidence they investigated, there's
evidence that they tried to cover it up, there's evidence of you know sort of the lies that they
told to tell that out um to cover it up both in writing and in terms of other people hearing.
There's people who have observed things
like all this was kind of under wraps, even before the Havana syndrome stuff started happening.
And then, you know, we had a couple years of that investigation sort of being obstructed and put off
until I think they wanted to, you know, to wait until Trump was out of office to really get that going.
And then it kind of got wrapped up in a very unsatisfactory way.
And then all of a sudden, we're just talking about UFOs and NHI.
But I think the reality is, and we know that that investigation was muddled too, right?
They threw long COVID in there and just a bunch of things to make it as confusing as possible
and easy to dismiss as
psychogenic, even though we know it's not. And I think there's some real overlap between
AHI and UFO. So I was just wondering if there's even been any talk of that, because to me,
one of the ways to get this hard evidence is to say, okay, we know that this, you know,
these health effects that were observable and documented on U.S. soil and
elsewhere happened on X date and X time. And then, you know, if we have the satellite footage to
match up with that, you know, that's a way of kind of getting at this problem, I feel like,
with more evidence. But I feel like I haven't even heard that talked about, so I don't know
if it's happening at all. It's totally happening. And the Department
of Defense put out a document, which is also in the archive section of my website at deciphering.tv,
where it gives an avenue for employees of the Department of Defense and their families to
report anomalous health incidents, i.e. Havana syndrome symptoms. So yeah, this stuff is as real as real can be
because this is, you know, the world that we live in now and the folks that have to deal with this
stuff in the front lines absolutely are and the rest are just caught in the crossfire.
Yeah. Well, that's good to hear. They're trying at least. Thank you.
Yeah. Well, that's good to hear they're trying at least. Thank you.
Thank you, Jessica. Where are we at? I don't see any hands. Is that, is that the last question?
No, it's not the last question. Harbinger is jumping in with the last question.
Where did you find out about the cabal? Was when you were down there was someone told you is it
something you discovered were you shown or was it yeah just kind of curious how you found that out
um i guess i don't believe in the term the cabal is a singular problem
The ball is a singular problem.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know if that answers it, but.
I think when people try to use terms like the gobal,
they're trying to reduce all of the problems of humanity into one group.
And I think that's a mistake.
I just simply think there's many groups involved in things that are the woes of humanity.
Okay.
But, um, those, those groups, uh, was that something again, were you just specifically
told about them or was it a deduction that you made?
having, you know, grown up in New York and lived through the 9-11 debacle.
I was certainly aware that we were being lied to about stuff prior to this angle of concern.
Okay. So you weren't told down in Antarctica specifically about them. Okay, thank you.
Thank you, Harbinger.
Oh, go ahead, Eric.
Yeah, I just want to say, yeah, I was certainly aware that we, the people of this planet,
had a problem with truth prior to my understanding of the South Pole dilemma.
Thank you, Eric.
Eric, is there anything we didn't cover that you wanted to say today?
No, I think this is a wonderful conversation.
I think hopefully it'll open a lot of people's eyes to a different way of looking at things. is really coming from a genuine position, has firsthand experience, has actionable intelligence
and who doesn't.
And please, by all means, start shaming the scumbags in the community that are coming
to the table with nothing but intentions to muddy the waters.
Thank you, Eric.
Ulrich, you're up.
Eric, thank you for having the courage
to enter the Doom Room.
Many do not.
Please tune in next week
to our highly speculative
and contentious interview
with Jason.
Wait, wait, wait. Is it going to be contentious interview with Jason. Wait, wait, wait.
Is it going to be contentious with Jorjani?
It might be controversial,
but I hope it's not going to be contentious.
No, no, but I'm sure the comments will be contentious
and I'm sure it'll be controversial.
No, I don't think there'll be any contention
between Jorjiani and myself.
I might ask him why he never responded to my email
from three years ago,
but I'm very much looking forward to it.
And Eric, I hope you become a regular to the Doom.
Yeah, actually, I just recently had Giorgiani come on my radar
and I thought he was a wonderful intellect.
So I highly recommend people take a listen to that gentleman
because I believe that his perspective is very interesting.
I'm a little bit surprised to hear you say that
because he's filled with speculation,
and I'm you know positively surprised
um and thanks for having the the courage to be in the arena i for me um it matters much more
whether somebody's willing to be to be faced in the arena in the in the public forum and a lot of
times you know we i'm still waiting for for grush to find his x account and uh for for your your
typical whistleblowers to be more engaged in spaces.
So I'm very grateful that you're,
you're willing to engage with the public.
Thank you very much for having me today.
I really do appreciate this.
I know a lot of these topics are challenging and I can be very curt with
people, but it's only because I have a passion for the truth.
And that's, this is the place uh where where you can be that and uh everybody currently on stage and who spoke prior uh please
do follow everyone here um especially Eric Daz Jessica J just Harbinger uh and Dakota give them
a follow back uh you don't need to give Strawberry Omega a follow back if you want to.
It's a free world. But with the exception of this person, please be generous with your follows
and hand the mic over to you, Sarah. Yeah, no, I want to say thanks to Fringe and
Doomer for having me here today. Eric, if you do remember the congressional people in your skiff, that would be awesome. I am a, you know, I stand with whistleblowers whenever someone comes in and tries to tear them down.
I like to be able to have the information at hand to be able to stand up for them and back them up, which is why I was asking you about your skiffs.
back them up, which is why I was asking you about your skiffs. I am, you know, I look at
whistleblowers as, you know, courageous because they're coming forward, putting their own risks,
you know, their own life lives at risk. And so if you do remember that, that would be great.
You know, anything flights to DC, you know, all that kind of good stuff. That way,
you know, just in case, it's always good to have people on your side when you are trying to,
you know, stand up and tell the truth. Thank you, Ulrich. Thank you, Sarah, as always,
for being here. We did miss Tiff today. We'll have Tiff back next week for the Georgiani space.
Hope everybody tunes into that.
Thank you for being here, Eric.
Thank you for answering questions.
Like Ulrich said, not everyone is willing to do that, and that's okay,
but it's always amazing and wonderful when people are willing to answer questions
and spaces because that's what makes us a little bit different than a podcast.
Podcasts are great, but it's not the town square that spaces are.
So thank you so much
for being here, Eric. I appreciate it. Thanks for everyone who was listening, everyone who tuned in,
and we will see you guys next week. Good night.
Thank you, French. Have a great night, folks.
And thank you, Eric and Sarah.
