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Domainer Club & $5 .com Friday
Recorded: July 18, 2025 Duration: 1:50:30Space Recording
Short Summary
Unstoppable Domains has launched a new domain club offering $5 .com registrations any day of the week, enhancing user engagement and growth potential. The introduction of innovative features like in-marketplace chat and a portfolio analyzer reflects a trend towards more accessible and user-friendly domain registration options, positioning the platform for increased adoption and profitability.
Full Transcription
what's up y'all and you guys are fast you guys need to do something other than hang
out on twitter other your click on the draw king i saw you've been doing quite well in the
dn arena rankings everyone just knows who King is. Very recognizable face. And folks, if you
guys want to come up and chat, by all means, I'm inviting you both now. We're going to
get Ishmaelie in here shortly. Let's see
there we go there's this just sent you the invite
gotta get the ud account
gm brady gm everyone what's up z. What's up, Zerk? What's up, King?
GM, my friend. What's going on over there on the West Coast?
Just a regular Friday. Great weather. You know, we have the best summers out here.
We're just making fun of Zerk in the group chat because we're like, don't try to sell names to domainers.
Oh, he's trying to sell domains to domainers?
Yeah, it's like the hardest thing to do.
Selling domains to domainers.
Yeah, it's like, it's one of those things.
It's like, it works sometimes, but it's not a good strategy, right?
Well, you just have to get an amazing entry if you're going to sell to domainers
because that means you're selling wholesale pricing.
I mean, I just, from my experience,
what I've learned is avoid buying names for domainers.
You know what I mean?
There are names that you can sell to domainers, obviously.
Like I know Duval just joined. He sold a name to Rick Schwartz for twoers. You know what I mean? There are names that you can sell to domainers, obviously. Like, I know Duval just joined. He sold a name to Rick Schwartz for two grand, Ernesto.ai.
And I'm pretty sure that was a hand registration. So it's doable. You just have to concede a lot
of profits. And it can't be like a name that has the word name or domain in it.
Yeah. It's, I mean,
it's the same thing of people like responding with their domain names
underneath domain or tweets. It's like, you're in the echo chamber, man.
You got to get out of there. Like no one,
your end users are not hanging out on domain Twitter. Your,
your end users are, you know, probably not even on Twitter at all. So you just gotta, you gotta hanging out on domain Twitter. Your end users are, you know,
probably not even on Twitter at all.
So you just got to break out of your bubble.
And yeah, to be fair, you know,
if you get some quality domain oriented domains,
you know, for a marketplace or something else,
like it's good because you've you're you've got distribution because you
know you're already plugged into the network of domainers but um yeah that's just such a tiny
market it's it's weird to concentrate a lot of your bets there i i i had registered on chain
domains on xyz and i offered it for free to Matt and he was like, no, I'll pass.
You know what I mean?
It's almost like Domainer.
You're so generous
by registering that for $3 and offering it
for free. Wow.
Yeah, what a gift.
It's like
when you receive a Christmas
gift and it's like this
big package and there's some bullshit in it.
But no, the point is, I mean, I know you guys use on-chain domains in your branding.
And so I figured, OK, let me offer this to someone that will be a fit for.
But, you know, the point is people, domainers are very savvy.
They already know what names they want to build on.
And they're pretty you know
they're just not buying names from other domainers they feel like i know what you got it for them i'm
just gonna go buy myself or find something similar yeah exactly yeah i think people people have some
like uh confirmation bias.
They think the industry is a lot bigger than they think.
And so they think like, oh, because I care about this industry and I'm very plugged into
it that a lot of people are.
And it's actually quite small.
I think there's only probably 10,000 pro domainers in the world.
So it's, it's fairly close knit.
And then a lot of amateurs,
of course, after that, I think you and I were talking, I think GoDaddy's domain club,
discount club has a hundred thousand or so members, um, which is a lot of people. Uh,
and I think the breakeven point is 25.com renewals per year to break even on the domainer club price.
dot com renewals per year to break even on the Domainer Club price so you know
you can assume some 100,000 people have 25 domains in their amateur
domainers but yeah I mean it's it's it's not that big a space at the end of the
day right one second yeah take your time people trickling in here uh folks if you got some topics
you want to talk about uh some domains you want feedback on or or uh price recommendations on
feel free to raise your hand or ask to speak and we can let you up and and shoot the shit with you um so updates it is five
dollar dot com friday and a lot of you are already in the domain club domain club that we just rolled
out on wednesday at unstoppable uh and this gives you an even higher tier of access beyond
the regular promos that we do like five dollar dotcom Friday and the $5.52.com transfers. And
this means, so if you're in the club, you get $5.coms any day of the week, not just on Fridays.
So if you see that drop name or one of your names, just can't wait till Friday,
you no longer have to wait. It also increases your limits. So on $5 Fridays, we have 100 domain per week per user limit.
And if you're in the club, you get an extra 100 that you can purchase throughout the week.
So higher limits for our trusted domain or club members.
And you also get some other nice add-ons so you get one dollar dot
xyz we had to put down xyz off the site for a while because we were seeing some abuse with them
at our one dollar price point and so we're only letting you register these $1 XYZs if we trust you and we know you.
And so that's what this club is all about, having a high trust community of domainers that we know.
It also gets you access to special beta features like our portfolio analyzer, which will recommend you domains based on the portfolio that you have at
UD. So lots of good stuff. And we're also going to roll out a private domainer chat as well,
so that you guys can share alpha and get the latest news from us and just, yeah, be treated
with the white gloves that you deserve as a high value domain. So that's some
of what we've been working on. We also rolled out marketplace chat this week, which is very
exciting. Previously, we had self brokerage, but you had to use an email proxy. So the email,
like the inquiries on your lander would go through an email proxy and get forwarded to your personal email.
But that was clunky and not very good UX.
So we just rolled out the in-marketplace chat.
And you can see that on my recent tweets.
But that allows you to send messages and keep organized all the various leads that you have,
both for you trying to purchase domains
as well as you trying to sell domains
and respond directly inside the app.
So a lot more coming there,
like integrating it directly with offers
and being able to see various stats
at the high level of all the different chats that you're in.
the different chats that you're in um but yeah that's a that's a big step forward um we also
But yeah, that's a big step forward.
rolled out a new bulk search so that you can uh make big orders more easily so check that out
and some updates to presets and some other things uh so lots of good updates coming through
unstoppable uh i can also say that we are looking to integrate the Afternet network quite soon.
I know that's like a big, you know, issue that any domain is going to have moving their domains over to us.
So stay tuned on that.
We should have that out the door in maybe a month or so.
We should have that out the door in maybe a month or so.
And then, you know, I think at that point, we've become, you know, a fairly competitive marketplace.
And we you can rely on us for, you know, all all your domaining needs.
Ish, I'm curious, you know, as you try out Unstoppable, are there any other features that you guys are you're looking to to
see from us anything else i think that's a ton of innovation brother like the fact that you guys
in my opinion have the best value with five dollar friday and you're extending that to all days of
the week um i mean i let that sink in you know no one else is offering dot coms for five bucks
and it was restricted to just fridays and now you can do that any day of the week
that's super impressive um i think people should really really take advantage of that you know
the truth is if you're a domain investor you probably have a decent volume of domains and
the renewals are like the achilles heel like i woke up this morning to go take a piss and go
daddy already got me for 250. like damn renewals you know it's like damn can i can i wash my face
before you take money out of my i mean i'm sure you guys all relate to that you know what i mean
it's the commitment that we make as domainers.
But I think like with your transfer ends, it's a no-brainer.
If I can save half of that, you know, why not do it?
And I think the gridlock that I had before was just not having access to after mix distribution.
And I know that you guys are adding that.
So just the combination of all these new features just makes it irresistible
um and i'm pretty sure that the word would get around and people would take action unless you
like wasting money um you know convenience and complete complacency you know will cost you money
sometimes and sometimes you just got to do the needed to save money.
Cause like, if you have a thousand domains and you're saving half for renewals,
it's pretty significant.
Totally. Yeah. Someone yesterday, as we,
as I announced chat being rolled out on the marketplace compared us to Dan.com
and that, that just made my heart swell. You know, like that's,
that's exactly the experience and the comparison that we're we're gunning for we want to be the marketplace that's putting you
in the driver's seat that's not nickel and diming you that's uh you know really just gunning for
uh an innovative user experience um and that lets you you know do do business your way uh and we
don't want to be uh like some incumbents where we're really squeezing you
for all your worth and trying to intermediate and force ourselves in between you and the buyer at
the expense of the user experience. So, you know, that's the experience we're going for.
we're going for i know there's a lot of ground still to cover to to get to the level of dan
I know there's a lot of ground still to cover to get to the level of Dan,
um but i think we're getting there uh slowly but surely i see zerg's in here what's up zerk
hey what's up guys i don't know how i got up on stage i was jumping in and out of the spaces i
couldn't hear anything and then realized i was on mute but um yeah just anyone here
i guess i need to start taking advantage of these five dollar fridays though because on mute, but They're not just anyone here. I guess
I need to start taking advantage of these $5
Fridays, though, because Ish Millie says
my portfolio is too small.
Wow.
I mean, you know your portfolio is too small.
You can't talk about a man's portfolio like that, Ish.
Yeah, take the pills.
Yeah, they've got solutions for that, Zerk.
You know?
It's called $5 Friday. Yeah, it's like the five dollar friday pills you'll be all right um i mean you talk about it like we can have an open dialogue about that like i
i'm not the one to talk about people's portfolio size but we have a group chat that we all
sort of like you know joke around and share tips
and insights and i just you know i see zerk pushing the same names and i'm like man are these
only names you have these are good names but you know i think i think we all know that it's a it's
a sell-through rate game and you have to have a certain threshold of names. Otherwise, it's just more difficult to be profitable at this business.
You know, I don't know what that magic number is.
And I think it varies from the other factors like name quality, your pricing, you know, the visibility.
You know, there's so many things to consider.
But I do know that there's a certain amount of names in in terms of portfolio size
that's somewhat inadequate you know what i mean what are you guys thoughts on that anybody else
wants to come on stage i see some good friends here laser ai bruce darcy paul with lots of
hand from you guys i'm going to shout out a bunch of invites um you, I think that portfolio size definitely matters, you
know, um, you know, do you want to keep it lean? Of course, but there's a certain
amount of names that you're not going to have any impact. And even if you do
make a sale, it's not enough to get you over. Like you have a hundred names and
have a 1% sell through rate. You sell one name a year. Congratulations, and...
It also depends on what you're selling it for.
So there are people that have very few names,
but they have such good quality names
that it doesn't...
They're sort of immune to the quantity thing, right?
But if you have bread and butter names
like most of us do,
then I think you have to have an adequate amount,
and I think the Fight All of Friday thing is a way to level them.
While you're waiting for guys to come up,
what number do you think is the appropriate number?
Like 800, 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 names?
I mean, how much are you trying to make?
Well, I would, like, you know, for me,
this isn't my only source of income so like i i buy domains
here and there i've sold three this year and i had 60 at the beginning of the year and i have
about 200 so i've already made my profit and i'm covering my renewal costs for the year for all my
names but um in order to make like let's say an additional five figures maybe low six figures to cover your
costs and make money doing this every year what do you think is a good portfolio size and i'm not
just saying buying names but like you know buying quality two word generics and brandables
i've learned that what i think is quality might be trash Even for me like a year later. I'm like, what was I thinking? So I think quality is very subjective, you know, um
There are names that I bought last week and I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have bought that and
There are names that I dropped. I was just Nicole would go daddy like hey
I want to renew that name again and like oh, it's gonna cost you it's past the redemption period and blah blah blah
But whatever the point is, you know, quality is very subjective.
And I think you have to be very careful in what you call a quality name.
You know what I mean? I mean, but in terms of like, what's the number?
I'll revert to someone like Bruce for an answer because I'm still trying to figure that out, you know.
But personally, I don't feel comfortable having over 5 000 names i've never had that many
but there are people that they seem to have consistency because they have a lot of names you
know um i keep my i think the most i've ever had is about 3 500 names and i was like whoa whoa
we're speeding let's let's let's slow it down because i don't like paying renewals i it really sucks but you know it's part of the
game and so it's like for me it's like one of the things i realized was i can minimize the renewal
cost by having mostly dot coms right and i want to buy dot coms i have a high probability of
reselling and pricing them in a way where i'm attracting buyers not scaring them
off you know um you know i had an inquiry for a name this week that came in at five grand and i
you know i was like oh can you offer 25 and she was like i'll pass and i was like yo listen if i
accept the 5 000 how soon can you pay if you see what i'm saying like it's like we have to be very
careful how we price names and you know our greed and all these things you know factor into how profitable you are but in terms
of like how many names you need i don't know bruce what are your thoughts
i guess it's whatever makes you feel comfortable you know so you know to me i couldn't uh you know
i have about 500 names right now because I'm buying and selling every day.
I don't think I could sleep a night if I had, you know, three to five thousand names and I knew that I had to renew.
And, you know, for the outbounding that I do, you know, I'll buy the X amount of names.
I know that I'm going to outbound and, you know, I'll get my drops that I'm going to, because I'm outbounding seven days a week, I'll find my drops that I'm going to pick up. But it's going to be what's going to make you feel comfortable. Again, like I said, if I had 5,000 names, there having the 500. And I know that out of the 500, there's, you know,
100 that are just names I'm going to list and leave alone and not worry about.
And then the other ones I'm going to outbound.
So it's, it's where your comfort zone is.
So you're basically buying eggs and making omelets.
Oh, but I'm making good omelets. I got some egg whites. I got some, you know, I'm making, you know, I'm making some good omelets oh but i'm making good omelets i got some egg whites i got some you know
i'm making some good omelets yeah straight to the kitchen right and those omelets that i'm selling
enable me to buy the bigger names right yeah so and some people just some people just buy
you know i think you know we always hear that the win isn't buying.
So, but I have to admit that buying can be very addictive.
You have to be very disciplined.
There are days I just don't even look at the drops because I don't want to be tempted to get in a chase for a name. Like, you have to go weeks without even looking at what's available.
Otherwise, you're going to get tempted.
It's just so easy to buy a name and talk yourself into it.
And, you know, like, even if it's a $1 name, you're buying it for $16.
Well, tell you how crazy this shit is, okay?
I was bidding on baseballai.com the other day.
And I had to go to get something done at the in an emergency at the dentist office
and they said they were going to maybe have to do a root canal but they're going to try to save
a tooth that I chipped and my art this art this auction ended at 3 30 and I am in the chair as she's drilling away with my phone in my hand at 325.
Okay.
And I couldn't even talk.
I couldn't, I couldn't look at my phone.
I couldn't see what I was going to get out bed.
And I'm saying, okay, I'm going to get that beep on my watch.
If I'm going to get out big, cause I had a proxy bit in there.
And then she kept on drilling.
And I didn't, I said said you know what the hell with
i'm just gonna if i get it i get it and uh but the i'm sitting there getting drilled by a my
dentist and i'm worried about if i'm gonna get a domain name that's how crazy this business is
and i got it and they saved the tooth so I was happy all the way around What a day
For those of you listening at home
This is not advisable
Do not try to replicate
Bidding while you're on anesthetic
Is not advisable
So be careful
This is only for professionals like Bruce
Yeah she shot me up pretty good
With that Novocaine shit
My mouth is frozen
So I couldn't even talk at all
i felt like billy crystal in that movie analyzed this when he was at the sushi table
and shit was flying out of his mouth and i wanted to say to my the dentist just stop for a second
but you know you know i was putting domains ahead of my health that's showing your age here bruce
what was that you're showing your age here with that movie reference
i'm not ashamed of my age over there pal go sell a name and stop worried about my age
let me see that gold tooth you just got replaced in there i got i got the grill going on
it's an old man's game zerk i don't know you noticed. It's all boomers as far as you can see
in Domaining.
We're going to have a boomer's dinner at
NamesCon.
Yeah, if you go to NamesCon, it's
BoomerFest for sure.
Yeah, that boomer
dinner is going to be the earlier word special, too.
It's going to be a bread lobby.
5.30. They have something a bread robbery. Hey, listen.
5.30.
They have something in the name's going to call Friends Day.
We're going to get linked at night at 8 o'clock, okay?
They have something in the name's going to call Friends Day.
What the fuck are we talking about here?
Friends Day?
And it was in Austin in the fucking heat.
I was like, I'll pass a map, bro.
Yeah, but it's a boomer fest for sure.
It's like, you know, most domainers are older, man.
They've been around.
It took a lot of patience.
The most successful domainers are like
they've spent a lot of money
and time, or both.
It just didn't happen
overnight for them, you know what I mean?
I mean, Bruce, how long have you been domaining?
About
18 years.
There you go.
What about you, Zerk?
He's longer than me.
I'm ashamed to say it, but yeah, longer than him.
I was just looking at my NamesPro account.
I had an account in 2007, and then
before that, I had an account at
DNForum. But again, I was
mostly buying names to develop websites.
I worked for
doing e-commerce and
all that stuff, and I was mostly looking for the guy I was working for.
And I guarantee if you go to Name Pros, he's probably still in the same names back then as he is today.
Yeah, no lie.
I do own a good amount of fucking names that I had back then for like 20 years now.
You know, in all seriousness, he does have some great fucking names.
seriousness, he does have some great fucking
names.
He does. Yeah, Zerg, so you had
He does.
60 at the start of the year,
and that drove you three sales over
the year. That's a pretty damn good sell-through
rate over the first
couple of months of 2025.
So, I mean,
how did you first target
picking up those 60 names,
and then how did that give you
confidence to start ramping up
your purchases over the past couple of months you started talking to be honest yeah talking with
bruce was definitely motivating but uh out of those 60 names i only had like maybe 15 for sale
because the other 45 plus names i've used for my my businesses and And so those were names that I bought.
The ones that sold were what?
One was from 2017 that I paid like $30 for and I sold it for $3,600.
And then another one is that I bought for $3,500 and I sold to our friend here for the LTO deal for $7,500.
And another name that I probably paid reg fee for, and I sold it
for 3,000, all came in on inbounds. You know, one was actually through text. Somebody in Canada
text me and was like, hey, I want this name. I see you have it on after Nick. Can we work out a deal
so you don't get hit with the fees? And we were able to work it out. And there were names that honestly, I wasn't expecting
to sell either. They were just like, I've already bought them and I've been paying,
you know, right? The renewal fees on them. And I'm the type of person who once I register a name,
I'm never letting it go. Once you register a name, you're never letting it go?
Yeah, man. It's hard for me to let go. I'm kind of a hoard never letting it go. Yeah, man.
It's hard for me to let go.
I'm kind of a hoarder when it comes to these digital assets.
That's the new Adam right there.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
When did you notice you have this problem of not letting go?
I think you have to let go of names.
I don't know.
Push the therapist's name on him right now, okay?
Because that's what I'm using.
The thing is that...
Attachment is the source of all suffering, sir.
What's that, Brady?
What did you say?
Attachment is the source of all suffering.
Yeah, like, you got to detach, man.
Like, you've had names since 2007,
and you're not letting it go.
The funny part is, is that i actually did finally this year drop like eight names that i've had forever that's it you know what we're gonna work on this it's a
start it's a start yo eight out of you know less than 200 names that's not that's that's a that's
a good start did you cry i did I like wept as I saw the emails
come in. They're like, hey, are you sure
you don't want to lose this fucking name?
It's about to be canceled. The 10,000 emails
that GoDaddy sends you.
This name can
still sell for $1,200.
This is the appraisal value.
They're so manipulative.
Those motherfuckers.
No, that's crazy man i i personally i purge names
like crazy what last thing you want to do is have a domain constipation or bloated portfolio
like i look at the names that i was buying in 2021 and i'm like damn i was so stupid like what
was i thinking you feel me so it's like me, that's like a signal of growth.
When you look at those names that you had,
and of course there's some good ones there,
but you're able to easily spot the bad ones.
And, you know, the way I look at it is like,
even if you drop a name,
you're just basically substituting it with a different name,
with a better name.
You're replacing it with a better name, excuse me.
So I think, to me, once you figure that out, you're not really losing anything.
Like, let's say you have 200 names and you drop 10 names.
Just take that.
Look at it.
Like, okay, that's 10 names.
I don't have to renew and I can go buy 10 better names or, you know, acquire 10 better names, whether it's hand registration or names that are more relevant with the times, you know, or with the current trends.
So I don't have a problem dropping names.
Sometimes I'll drop names that I haven't paid a couple of hundred dollars for because I'm like, I don't want to get tricked because I overpaid for it to make a commitment to keep a name for another four or five years.
Oh, hell no.
You see, I can't do that one.
I pay a couple hundred for it.
That one's going to the fucking grave with me.
But I'm actually the opposite of you, man.
I had 800 to 1,000 names.
Back in 2015, I kind of went crazy and started just buying names a lot.
And I have the biggest regret of dropping them
after like two or three years
because now they're great names.
And some of them I sold really cheap.
Like I had a bunch of premium four letters, you know?
And I sold them very fucking cheap
to now that they're probably like floor price,
three grand, five grand.
And I hurt just thinking about them
and going through my CETO history
and seeing them
on there and not owning them anymore when i look at the expired auction sometimes i see names that
i used to own and nothing makes me feel better when i see them at 11 and nobody wants them i'm
like yeah i was right yeah well how about if you see names that are expired and you say god that's a great name i'm gonna go buy it and you realize it was your name
that you let us fire that's called dementia that's what happens when you get become a boomer
yeah you got to take some pills some memory pills sniff rosemary that's not a good thing
it's like we're in a doctor's office the therapist office the domain room what's going on anybody
else wants to come out here and confess I see a bunch of domainers I Darcy what's up, man? You came up earlier. Any recent sales that you guys are excited about?
Nothing?
I'm going to have one today.
I know.
That's the attitude. Did you hear that?
Man, you
went over Zerk with
a higher vibration. It was going to say
sales. You guys have that?
And you asserted, I'm going to have one today.
What's that?
I don't want the negativity shit in this room.
You hear that, Zerk?
Now, Brady,
talk to us about the chat feature.
Are you guys going to restrict
certain words, or can we just
talk openly and freely with prospects?
So, currently, it's open season, and you can say whatever you want but uh yeah we're gonna have to
scrub contact details being traded in the chat um at least that's how it looks right now uh it's
just i mean it's just unfortunately that's how it's gonna have to work like that we have to
make sure the transactions are happening on our marketplace.
I mean, the other way it can happen is like we make it so easy that you just want to,
even when you're pushing domains, you would just prefer to sell it on our marketplace
because the fees are so low and because it makes it so easy rather than, you know,
collecting your payment via PayPal and having to trust that the
guy is going to, you know, come through on his payment or you're going to come through on the
domain push. So, I mean, that's our goal, but it makes it a lot easier if we just, you know,
keep everything on the marketplace. So, yeah, that's what's going to come soon. We're also
going to make like offers much more tightly integrated into chat.
I mean, this is all standard fare at AfterNick and other marketplaces.
So we're just taking some time to get caught up to those experiences so that it's nice and seamless and you can track all your leads in one place.
How do people find out more about your main club is there a website or
you can dm me there's uh i'll put out a blog post at some point but uh it's basically just my tweet
uh is is how we've announced it so far so announcement yeah and it's invite only right can people apply to
join
yeah if you're
if you
you know if you've got a sizable portfolio
then we're happy to
hear you out so just shoot me a DM
and we can
see if you're a good fit
I'm sorry I'm sorry no no go ahead man and we can see if you're a good fit.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, no, go ahead, man.
Go ahead.
On our back end of the database, where it has, you know,
you go to my domains, and the first thing comes up is all.
So, you know, way back in the day, I bought all this, you know,
.eth shit.
How can I – and they're expired.
How can I just – why don't they just go away?
Oh, expired.eth are still going?
Yeah, like
ETH names that are long gone.
I didn't even ever...
They're just in there.
There is a toggle between all
Web3 and DNS.
I got that, but
all should not include names that, in my mind,
that expired.
And those
are just the ETH?
Yeah. Okay, interesting.
Yeah, I agree. That shouldn't be in there.
Let me take a look at that. I mean, I literally
get PTSD if I look at that shit.
It does the same
in OpenSea. I think it's because
it's probably like an on-chain situation
and somebody has to remove it.
Because when I go in OpenSea,
I see ETH names that I don't have anymore in my account.
Yeah, it looks like I still have a couple that are still,
you know, like till 2029 or 2030.
What was I thinking?
I'm long in there.
Yeah.
Who knows?
I mean, Bruce, there's an ETH Maxie that's very, an ENS maximalist that's very close to the Trump administration has been working with them on the freedom first liberty financial whatever the fuck
thing so uh you know decent chance that we see you know more adoption there and ens is still
quite strong within the ethereum community um the base team which is coinbase is is rolling
out their app and trying to make crypto very accessible to the masses.
And they incorporate the names.
So, yeah, there's still hope there for the .eth.
I don't think they'll ever die.
I just think that there's a strong community of people that love dot eth and you got to respect that i just think
that they um they're just another you know i i look at it like it's another cld you know and
it's everything is not for everybody you know what i mean so there are a lot of people that
are still going to be like don't eat maxis and i wish them all the best man i think with ethereum going up
there'll definitely be um a lot of noise about dot eat and you know who knows that could take
it to the next level but it's been dead for a while and right now with ethereum showing some
good you know upswing and looking really good in the coming weeks or months.
I think that will have some sort of
trickle-down effect.
I wish them all the best, man. I just think that
when it comes to domains
in general,
.ether can't fuck with .coms.
Let's just keep them 100.
They're not even fucking with .ai's.
If you see an opportunity to pick up like certain type of dot eat names they still
have a lot of value i think i have about 30 left um that i believe are still decent names um if i
could do it over again i would have just bought the ones that were like five dollar renewals
because that's where it became kind of like annoying $640 renewals and you know a bunch of
oh yeah it's gonna be worth more than a house in Manhattan a lot of delusion but I think overall
all that has settled down and you know we'll see what happens but my money's on dot-com baby
the other thing is dot eth will never become an ICANN TLD also. It's too close to .et, I guess, Ethiopian CCTLD,
and so it can never become an ICANN TLD.
I mean, it doesn't have to be an ICANN TLD to be successful.
It's already a successful platform, right?
Ethereum Naming Service is super successful.
They've done very well
individually a lot of people
go fucked myself included
and so it's like that's what you have to sort of
like understand a platform
versus your
bags are two different things
yeah
but positive news for the whole industry
you know Unstoppable's Web3 TLDs as well the more Yeah, but positive news for the whole industry.
Unstoppable's Web3 TLDs as well.
The more rising tide lifts all ships kind of thing.
You guys have a shitload of extensions. You guys released another one called Desai or something you say?
That's right.
Decentralized Science. Another one called DSAI or something you say? That's right. Yeah.
Decentralized science.
Yep.
Unclear if they're going to ICANN with that one.
I'm not sure.
But yeah, yeah, lots of partner TLDs coming out all the time.
People really love the value of being
able to rep their community online
and show off their domain as a flex.
The Web1 vision of your website being your presence online and being your identity is still alive and well with these Web3 domains.
What do you guys think this name is worth Web1 with the number
1.com
Well that feels
Like a trend that's come and gone
Web1 I mean it could be rebranded
Beyond the
You know traditional meaning of Web1
Meaning the early days of the internet
Yeah but Web1 yeah you could brand that in a bunch of different ways.
It could be like some foundation for internet development. It could be, uh, you know some kind of kumbaya bullshit trying to like limit censorship or uh encourage internet
freedom fight name collisions one web one web one protocol right right hey ragu what's up man
hi hi hello everyone i was trying to struggle to up, but I could not be able to make it.
But anyways, I'm not well today, but I have a question to ask Brady about unstoppable domains.
So, Brady, I'm Raghu, and you probably know me.
I've been transferring domains from the last few months to you, and it is great.
to you. And it is great. Like I'm saving a little bit money. I, I transferred probably
Like, I'm saving a little bit of money.
close to a hundred already, and I have more to do, a lot more to do. And, but I missed
out a few opportunities when you had this 50 domains, free transfer and all that. And
then I was talking to someone, he said he said well maybe this opportunity come back again
and then they said well if you already started um then you can go back and then take that
benefit of 50 domains and all that is there any possibility for me to take that adventure still
or do i have to open up another account because Because I can open up a multiple account.
Am I or not?
Hey, Raghu.
Nice to meet you.
Yeah, opening several accounts to milk that promo is against the terms.
So don't do that.
What you can do is you can refer other new customers
and earn some free credit that way. And it's a very easy
referral to make because who doesn't want 50 free transfers? And so you can, I mean, I talked to a
guy today and he's referred 25 people and he got upwards of $2,500 in account credit by giving away this amazing deal of 50 free transfers to people.
So that's a way for you to earn some credit.
Yeah, because the 50 free deal is explicitly for new customers
as a way to get people in to try us.
So yeah, that's what I would recommend is doing that.
Yeah. in to try us so yeah that's what i would recommend is doing that um yeah but i mean should be easy enough for you to you know get into some of your domain or group chats and right
who doesn't want that benefit yeah that's fine that's fine i'll start doing that and do it other
way around like that no issue now yeah again i'm really happy to move my domains because i'm saving some money
now but i noticed um i could do dot com dot net dot org right not only dot com correct
yeah so the transfer discounts uh and the 50 free well you're not talking about the 53 but you're talking about the the transfer
discounts yeah so every transfer gets 553 or it's it's to be precise it's 50 off the cost of the
transfer up to five dollars and 53 cents right that's that's what gets discounted off of the
regular transfer price and so that applies to all tlds yeah all tlds that's right yeah oh i didn't
know that because i was putting behind other tlds i thought you can only do like um um i do have
some other dot ca names i have dot tv names i have dot io, I have other extensions as well. So I can pick up any extension and use that?
No issue? I didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Every transfer that you make gets up to $553
in discounts off when you transfer in. So that applies to all 160 or so tlds that we support uh yeah so very
widespread that has a limit of two thousand dollars in discounts so more or less 370 ish
transfers uh if you're maxing it out every time so yeah lots of benefits to be had there
uh but ragu i'm curious, you know, like,
how has your experience been? What are your favorite parts of Unstoppable? What are your
least favorite parts? Like anything you're hoping to see from us? Yeah, so I can give you a little
bit feedback. One thing I noticed, it is a little bit slow when he's recognizing the authorization
codes. It's going through that process.
It's not that quick.
And after that, I notice it's still processing after I pay for it and all that.
But I think this is normal.
I'm not too sure.
And that's one thing I noticed. So sometimes it doesn't do quickly enough.
But it's quick enough for me to do this anyway versus other transfers I did before with other registrar so that's still
okay um and again before but not anymore I I was I was trying to do 10 at a time or maybe a little
bit more 10 at a time and I I it throws me off and even today matter of fact I was one of the dot org
he didn't pick it up. And I tried three times.
And he says, oh, this authorization is already usable.
And then it emptied my cart.
So I don't know if it's a glitch or if I'm doing something wrong.
So I can't tell you.
But once in a while that happens.
So if I put, let's say, eight names and maybe six will go through and two will not
go through. And then I have to, a few hours later, I have to redo that again. I'm not too sure why
it's me or it's the glitch. I'm not too sure, but it happens. Even today it happened. The .org,
one of my name, I was trying to transfer and he didn't pick it up from this five transfer i did today
gotcha okay well i'll uh connect with you offline we'll see what's going on there
but i appreciate you telling me how about the marketplace have you had any sales with us uh
i haven't reached there yet and sooner or later i will because i have my own landing page, which I'm experimenting and it's working out for me.
And I'm trying to sell domains.
I don't want to do it through Afternic or any other platform.
So I want to do my own.
And, and it's simply because I want to know who is offering and who is,
who I'm talking to.
So I don't know if in your marketplace, do you have that feature where I can speak
directly with a buyer or not?
Yeah, yeah. We were saying earlier, we just Wednesday launched chat.
So self brokerage, anyone can directly chat with you.
You can directly chat with any other seller through our marketplace.
And so, yeah, you can you can have, you can have full unfiltered communications. Well, in the future, maybe
a little bit filtered if you're exchanging contact info or something, but at least for now, you know,
you don't have to rely on a broker. You don't have to worry if the broker is like advertising other
names that aren't your names to this buyer. And you can be sure that you're in the driver's seat
and maximizing your own sales.
So do I still have to change my DNS to you
or it can be work other way around?
So at least I can use it in multiple marketplace.
Is that possible?
Or I do have to direct redirect to your site?
So currently we don't let you list for sale if you don't have the domain at unstoppable but soon that will be allowed and at that point yes you'll be
able to receive messages even if the domain is not unstoppable or if it doesn't use our name servers
so yes you'll have maximum flexibility there to use our chat, even if you're not using our name servers or not transferred in.
Great.
So again, thank you for that information.
And last thing about this, I read a few emails as well.
And this domain club you're promoting, what is that about?
I'm poor in reading.
I just read the message.
You're offering something for club members.
Is any fee involved is any
what's the benefit i see a benefit you can do five day any day registration other than that
what else and uh is any membership fee to this so yes there's no membership fee uh in the future
maybe a year from now we will tack on a membership a membership fee to get access to these promos.
But for now, you know, this is just a gift to our high value domainers.
And so, yes, you're correct. You get on top of $5 Fridays, which everyone gets access to.
You get, as part of the domainer club, $ $5.com any day of the week and that's an extra hundred
on top of the hundred limit that's on Fridays. So $5.com every day. You also get up to a
hundred $1 XYZ throughout the week any day of the week. And then you also get access
to some beta features like our portfolio analyzer, which gives you suggestions based on your portfolio and access to our domain or chat and some other freebies coming soon.
So, yeah, you know, if you have a sizable portfolio with us, shoot me a DM and I can try to get you in there.
Yeah, so that's the Domainer Club in a nutshell.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Good to you guys.
Continue.
Yeah.
Thanks, Regu.
Appreciate your time.
Hey, Domain, do I see you out of your hand out for a while?
Thanks for your patience.
What's up?
That's not a problem.
Hi, guys.
Hope you are doing good.
Hope your day is going as planned.
So I have two comments for Brady if he would like to give an insight about them.
So the first thing is about the Friday deal.
So why can't just a unstoppable domain make it like two days in a week, like Tuesday or Monday and Friday,
that would be awesome.
And the second thing is why only.com?
Like we know.com is the strongest TLD and maybe we can get in the future,
the org, the AI, maybe, I don't know.
It was just those comments that i wanted to
point out and thank you guys sure i appreciate the questions um you know a lot of this just
comes down to cost and simplicity of implementation for us um you know a dot ais costs 70 bucks a
year uh and so offering those for $5 is really untenable.
Yes, you're right.
Maybe let's just talk about .org, maybe,
or .now, or the other ones.
I'm sorry to cut you off, Brady,
but just not talk about .ai because you are right.
Yeah, I agree.
They are really really really expensive uh but uh
if we talk if we talk about the org and that now and the other tlds maybe we can in the future have
offers in in those clds sure yeah we're we're open to it uh we're just you know we're keeping it
simple obviously dot com is the the bulk of the market and so it's just easy for us to uh to do one of these uh it's also confusing for users if you have
you know five concurrent promos happening at a single time i've gotten this feedback already
you know people worry about they think the terms of one apply to the terms of another promo and so it's just a
a lot of things to juggle and keeping it to dot coms and just one day of the week on friday uh
it's just nice and simple and uh and keeps things neat for people but if you're a high value domainer
let's get you in the in the domainer club and then you can get five dollar dot com in the day of the week. Sure, sure.
Thank you, Brady, for the input.
And, yeah, thank you, guys.
Sure.
Thanks for the question.
Well, I mean, how else is your experience at Unstoppable?
Any recent sales you want to speak to or, you know,
recent trends that you've been hopping on?
Let me tell you this, Brady.
I just signed up yesterday for Instapable domains.
So I'm just new.
I'm just exploring the website.
I don't know if you can, like, show me something that I can benefit from it.
I just bought, I think, yesterday two domains on the Friday deal. That was really amazing. And that's it. I just bought I think yesterday two domains on the Friday deal.
That was really amazing.
And that's it. So I'm
just exploring things on the
website right now.
Yeah. Great.
Well, welcome. We're glad to have you.
Thank you. Thank you, Brady. Thank you.
The way
he says Brady, I know he's Arab.
Are you Arab?
I would say Italian
or does it make any difference?
no it doesn't
we're all one
I'm just curious
I like to pick where people's accents are from
that's how my Arab friends talk
what's up Brady?
it's all love brother
you don't have to disclose
I'd rather call him Brandy
than anything else.
I get Brandy a lot.
You thought he was Italian, right?
I didn't get it.
His name is Ismail, so he's allowed to racially profile you.
Don't worry.
I'm not racially profiling.
I'm the fuck out of here.
I just said, is he Arab?
You know what I mean?
That's all.
Ish is the meme of the guy. It's just the meme of the guy.
It's like a Chad on the computer.
He's like researching
various world
like global history
of various cultures so I can be more
accurately racist online.
Oh God.
He's like, what does it matter?
I'm like, my man.
It's all good here.
We are, you know, we're all in it for the name of the game.
We're here to play the domain game and win
and get some financial freedom for ourselves.
And that is a cross-border, cross-ethnic goal of ours.
So, yeah, not a problem.
But, Brady, let me answer him.
Yes, I am, Adam.
That's not a question.
Hey, Falhalic, Habibi, Mati Mishkela, you know, come on.
I knew it, man.
That's not a question.
It's the way he said the Brady, Brady, Brady, you know.
That's not a question that I can escape from come on
like
My salary or my income for this month. So yeah, I
Didn't even ask your name. Can you imagine?
Domain dealer. It's all good brother. I'm'm going to show you a follow, by the way.
So follow me back.
I'll follow back.
I'll make sure to follow back.
Thank you, guys.
It's all good.
Yeah, anybody else?
I see Darcy's up on stage.
What's up, Darcy?
What's up, Amit?
What's up, Darcy?
Go ahead.
Hey, Ish.
What's up?
How's your day going?
Not bad, man.
All good.
So there's one thing that I would like to bring to Brady's attention.
I recently tried to register a domain and I have noticed there is a slight delay for the domain registration.
And what's happening is in that time window, most of the domains they're skipping.
I registered one recently and i got an email
there's this unstoppable domain order update that it's unavailable now so can it be fixed or is it
is it something that it cannot be yeah this is unfortunately an issue with uh granzy who is our
backend rsp provider and um is largely of our hands. So we're working on
replacing this entirely so that we own the full stack and we can improve the performance here.
So yeah, unfortunately, there is just a slight delay in when you submit the order and when the
name actually gets registered. I know that's a problem. It's been brought to our attention
and rest assured we're looking at it uh but yeah it's it's
gonna take a little bit of time to fix unfortunately um so yeah just be just be careful announcing
names but uh you know immediately after you register them and it should be okay
uh i registered name fresh from the drop list so there's there's a lot of chance that other
people are looking at it as well so i I'm always in that kind of category.
Otherwise, I wanted to ask, what is the ET on the API?
Or if you guys are planning to bring one?
Yeah, that's a good question.
It's really not on our radar right now.
Not a request we get a ton.
You would be looking to just register names via the api
or manage your domains as well i am doing that with the dynarot right now so yeah it's very
convenient because it happens instantaneously and i love that to happen to unstoppable because
that's one register that's looking after the people who are looking for domains and like yeah of course right yeah it's it's not a request we've gotten a lot so far um
bulk you know the bulk csv upload it for search is is generally enough for most people um as we
pull on more like institutional clients like really big players that have a programmatic
uh you know registration flow uh this could be something we implement it's not all that
complicated to do um we just need to find the time to do it and right now it just doesn't make sense
for us but maybe maybe like by the end of this year we'll revisit that and it could come sooner you know if we try
to onboard a big client and and they want an API we could spin it up in a in two weeks or so so
stay tuned yeah anybody else would be interested in an API sounds like the rest of you guys are manually registering, I would imagine.
What other programs are you using, Amit? Are you programmatically scraping the expires list
and sifting through those?
How else are you automating a lot of your domain workflow?
So I don't need to scrape the bad list because drop
catch provides it every day what i'm doing is running a program for the valuations of it
the valuation is mostly stupid but it separates the good domain from the bad
so that's something that i'm doing these days yeah and do you use some other tool to calculate that estimated price or are you doing that
on your own?
Right now what I'm doing is I have a locally installed Olama and I have its API with me.
I have explained the program, the little LLM, a little bit of things and it's giving me
valuation based on those.
So I'm just sending the request to the API to the old Llama and my local host, and it's
giving me back the price.
And the domains are getting sorted in that order.
It's not perfect, but it's getting better.
Yeah, especially Llama. not perfect but it's it's it's getting better yeah especially llama llama's very outdated at
this point um i mean even deep seek you could run locally and and you can run it locally other other
systems are too large for my system to run i am running an m2 so okay will i get an m4 so other systems are out of my reach yeah that makes sense uh
well the good news is i mean price per token is dropping dramatically uh as these guys compete
like hell to bring machine god to the fore so you'll be a winner there uh it'll be cheap enough
It'll be cheap enough. Did you guys see this? So Greg Eisenberg, who's a big tech Twitter,
like indie hacker influencer, he has this list of to package that into a SaaS and sell a subscription for it.
And it's, you know, it's a nice idea.
And I'm sure many a domainer has thought about this. all see a bunch of various expired domains lists that, you know, scammers and earnest
domainers alike all put out in their newsletters. But I mean, I made a post about this, but the core
problem with trying to package that up as a SaaS is that, you know, anyone who is building a good enough algorithm to detect solid expired domains
would be much better off buying the domains and hoarding them for themselves
rather than selling access to the list. And of course, the list itself gets worse and gets more
picked over the more users that you add to the platform so it has
these like negative network effects where the product gets infinitely worse the more users you
add on to it um and you're just better off you know hoarding the tech for yourself and that's
unfortunately that that dynamic that we see in a lot of the domain industry where i'm sure
you know the guys at huge domains uh and uh
and some of the other big players in the industry uh titan research and the others uh you know all
these guys are much better off hoarding you know their scraping tech and and their pricing algorithms
rather than packaging up and offering it to the rest of the uh the industry as a sass
because uh you know the market's so illiquid and every name that they recommend they might as well
just pick it up for themselves um so it was an interesting you know just way to to lens some of
the bad incentives in the industry i'm wondering if you guys saw that. Yes. I'm on namesmack specifically. That was what came out of that suite.
This guy.
Yeah. I put it together in like 12 hours. It was very impressive.
Yeah. I haven't followed him since yesterday,
but I know that he said that he already was at a thousand dollars in revenue.
Now that doesn't mean that it's a, it's a hit of an idea, but you know,
I think that with AI agents and just a shift in perspective,
not everyone wants to be a domainer. There are people out there that just want to offer tools
for domainers. And there are people that curate names or people that build marketplaces,
appraisal tools, and all type of different approaches. Right.
So I think it's sort of like inspiring to see how quickly you execute it.
It's a reflection of the power of AI agents as well. But you're right.
There are definitely holes in the business idea from looking inside.
But remember, the average person out there doesn't even know that you can make a
living from buying and selling domain names people just want to curate names for other reasons like
they want names with good backlinks to get themselves more visibility or they just want to
use this tool to identify names that can help them with their organic you know their seo and other factors so i think
there's definitely a market for it um but it's not us you know it's not domain flippers necessarily
uh i took a look at greg's software name snack this ishmel is talking about and i can tell you
that it's not built for domainers. It's built for indie hackers.
They are showing you the domains two months old.
The domains that we will never even register, even $5.
So it's basically a tool for his own audience.
Yeah, and if you notice that the domains have like a domain,
they show a matrix like the domain score,
the backlink quantity or quality of the backlinks.
This is more catered towards, like you said,
end users, like indie hackers.
So I don't think it's for domain flippers.
But what else did you notice?
Because I haven't really... I want to tell you one thing
that I've been trying to work with Majestic API for a while
and I know you cannot get so many domains output very soon so I can I can safely tell you that
the metrics that are showing in that software are randomly generated metrics and I have nothing to
do with the reality. Wow strong indictment um yeah mean, I would give them the benefit of the doubt, you
know, the products all of 24 hours old. And these, these are also guys that don't know anything about
domain trading, they just haven't talked to users, they don't have the workflow of the user in their
mind, because they're not a domainer. And so, you know, I would give them the benefit of the doubt
if they actually do, you know, continue development.
I have no doubt that he could get something interesting.
Now, but I mean, the critical piece is that, you know,
he needs to basically integrate it with Dropcatch
because all the best names that are going to the drop
are going to auction on Dropcatch.
And so that's where you need to be for the most part to catch anything worthwhile.
If there's a two-month-old name that's been dropped, it's dropped and it's been hanging out there for a reason.
The industry is very competitive around efficiently up, efficiently picking up any domains that
should be picked up.
And so it's not as easy as just servicing these metrics and finding gems.
I think any innovation in this direction is welcome.
He basically involved a lot of people into understanding that domains are important and
that it's good for domainers business
maybe those
i'm gonna mute you
i think that was ragu anyway go ahead i'm saying any any any innovation in that that direction is welcomed he probably brought the
spotlight to domains for some time and i hope his software works so other indie hackers and other
developers that are in his contact they understand the value of domains when they'll not find very
good ones in a software yeah so amit if you're if you're waving a magic wand and you make drop catch and your uh you know
expired name parsing uh tool set better like what are the what are the workflows what are the
questions you want answered what kind of features would you want to see in your ideal tool here
your ideal tool here.
An ideal tool for what? For registration?
No, for finding good expired names and catching them.
I don't think there are more metrics.
We all know we see backlinks, we see trust flow,
we see search volume, we see CPC.
But at the end, it comes down to your basic knowledge.
Like Ismaili has great knowledge about
expo domains conference domains so he can pick those domains which i'll not even look at he has
more information about medical terms the domains that go for for high cpc it comes down to a
person's knowledge there's not a lot we can do from this point on. Yeah.
And that's the other thing is like, if Dropcatch adds new features
to help you scan through the expires and the drop list more efficiently,
then there's no more edge for anyone.
So any series domainer is praying that Drop drop catch doesn't add new features so that
There's less competition in your niche and you can hoard all that for yourself
So again, just very strange incentives, you know, like Bloomberg terminal doesn't have this problem
In fungible markets, there's not the same level of competitiveness because you know any two stocks are the exact same uh
but uh yeah it's interesting so i put something up named snag he said he has 500 users
about three percent of them have subscribed he's charging 49 bucks a month so three percent is what 15 people you know 49 bucks a month i
don't know what his churn is going to be like but it's not a bad start but you know in the next post
he said okay how are we going to market this other than constantly tweeting about it so i think it's
a lot of people just being curious like what is he building um but in terms of skill in this there might be a challenge
and i know that there are a lot of people that curate names the model is you know you
even even expired domains.net the way they make money is when you click on the link of the names
that you see to get a percentage from the transaction so it's like the affiliate marketing model and some
people will curate names and they're hoping that you click the link i think dnx kind of works the
same way if i'm not mistaken um that you click the link so that they get a percentage of the revenue
so i don't know if he has that embedded in his formula but you know just to have a paywall
is pretty impressive,
considering that expired domains is free.
But most people do not.
They just want it done for them
as much as possible.
So someone selects the names
and then they just go pick what they want.
But I like what you said, Brady, about the more this grows,
the less effective it is.
Yeah.
And I, you know, I really admire, uh,
Josh's, uh, gung ho approach and just spinning something together.
I mean, it's, I mean i mean one it's just an insane
uh you know testament to how cheap it is to replicate software these days i mean you can
vibe code these things in 12 hours or whatever this guy did and it's more or less i mean it's more or less, I mean, it's not necessarily on par, but it's, it's close to on par with,
you know, some industry leading tools, uh, and marketplaces. And it just shows you that like,
in a world where the cost of developing software goes to zero, uh, distribution matters more than
anything. And so you're just going gonna have tens and tens of of these
clones and marketplaces popping up all over the place in any kind of SAS but
what's gonna matter is like are they actually iterating and talking to users
and like building a fully integrated solution and are they getting
distribution and getting access to users on a recurring basis.
It's not enough just to build the product anymore because anyone can do that with the words,
you know, in a matter of hours. But yeah, I mean, props to them. It just takes,
you know, it's the meme where like, you're like going to go fight the industry and then you're
like, damn, industry got hands.
But it's not enough to just vibe code something because you realize there's a Matryoshka doll set of all these problems and user flows that need to be addressed.
And you can't just vibe code something and make a really compelling product product right off the bat but i do i mean props to these guys for for going after it yeah i think i was just saying that
was it yesterday or recently i can't remember when like we need more like amit was saying we
need more innovation in this space because you know the general perception about domains are
far from the reality
there are a lot of people that think this is just a bunch of squatters they they're very
ignorant to just the in and outs of domain investing and i don't know if that's a good
or bad thing i don't know how much it impacts us but anyone who is building around the space
is going to you know essentially just in correcting some of the false perceptions
about domain investing, you know?
And the indie hacker community specifically is very, very,
they're quite frugal, you know, not necessarily because they're bad people
because, you know, they're mostly experiments
and not everything they do is going to work out.
So the more educated they are to the utility of a domain and how it could be advantageous for them to get better quality names, it should be supported.
I noticed that a lot of people are like, what is he doing? He doesn't know anything about the business.
I noticed that a lot of people are like, what is he doing?
He doesn't know anything about the business.
But this is, they're more, I don't want to use the word, I'll just say accidental domainers than intentional domainers.
You know, you talk to people that are like entrepreneurs, they have 20, 30, 50 domain names.
Anytime they have an idea, they know that i have to go register a domain
right but some of us just take it to a different level where we're intentional about it you know
what i mean so these people are domainers by default too and they're always looking for better
names because you know they they understand that the name that they wanted cost a lot of money i
was talking to luca nets today and i was sharing with him that um you know crypto dot bot sold for 250 grand and it was i told you because about a month
ago it was like what do you think about dot bot and i was i just found it as an interesting thing
like he's so convinced that dot bots is going to be the next thing and i was explaining to him like crypto dot bots is an abnormally
the renewal is 5 400 but saluka 5 400 ain't right so he was like this weekend i'm gonna spend 50
000 on dot bots names and i'm not gonna be able to convince him not to right he's gonna have to learn
that you know he's either right or wrong? But this is just how people approach domain.
Some of them are builders.
Most of them are builders, and they're like visionaries, and they're saying, okay, you know what?
Maybe I'm going to build something with this in the next two, three years, or my peers will, and I want to acquire those names.
And I want to acquire those names.
And more of them are becoming more aware that if they position themselves early, that it could be a lucrative bet.
So I think it's a good thing for domain investing.
I want to see more people building around domains.
And that's why I love what you guys are doing.
It can't just be business as usual right we complain so much about after nick and go daddy
and you know but when when people try to innovate we we you know we're somewhat critical but i think
we should support them as much as possible hey guys uh what do you think about this uh back order
anybody going to reinvent it or are they going to just die down
just like GoDaddy and everybody else getting out of that business
of backorder domaining?
Brady, what do you think about this?
You're innovating about this facility of backordering domain
and getting it, not all these major players like all these auctioneers and making tons of money,
rather than they should go to individuals,
whoever looking for a name for a long time.
Yeah, I don't know enough about backordering.
Potentially, it's just gotten so competitive
that it's just harder to backorder because so many
domains now just go to auction on the drop um but i don't know i don't know that well enough
we haven't quite gotten there on our product roadmap i mean help me understand backordering is
uh you if the domain drops and expires you can basically pre-register it, and then the registrar will try to register it after it drops?
Well, I've been told, and I'm experiencing backorder system since mid-90s, matter of fact, and I got it very easily at that time.
There was only a few players, and it was easy.
You backorder a domain name for 100 bucks
or something like that, 80 bucks or something,
and a week later, you get it.
Then they came up with the idea of, okay,
if it's multiple people, you will be able to bid
with that others, whoever back order the same domain name.
Then the third thing came up, all these major people like,
I don't want to say the names of these registrars,
and they have 500 different registrars or registry where they get in
because it's a matter of microseconds when this domain gets deleted.
I mean, what's the difference between backordering and dropcatching?
It sounds like the same thing.
Is it just different terminology?
I cannot answer you that.
Someone else probably may say it.
But it's probably the same thing,
but they have a better mechanism and heavy-duty coding and software,
which is the use and heavy machines, whatever.
I don't know.
And they get it before anybody else.
Because I told you, it's a matter of microseconds
when it drops and all that.
But so it's not a fair game, I see it in a broader way,
because who makes money in the end?
Like I'm hoping to make money because I forget this domain name,
I can sell it, I can use it and make money.
But these people, they put it publicly,
even you're not backorder that domain name and it's open for public to join
and bid war and win that domain name once they catch that domain name.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm looking at it now.
It might just be the same thing.
I think backordering feels like more of putting a reservation down
while it's not yet expired.
I don't know.
How early can you say you want to drop catch a name?
Pending delete, I believe.
After the grace period, it goes to pending delete.
And then it has another time or like a week or 10 days or nine days before
it drops right now, you know, I see you got your hand up.
It sounds sounds so easy.
Okay.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay.
So backorder is basically, forcing registrations using the ERP protocol.
Hold on Amit, one second.
Let me finish.
So what I'm trying to say is, what I figured out is simple. It depends how much bandwidth or power of this,
I call it machines or computing,
how fast you can get in the line and grab that domain name.
And that API or that coding, it is very, very costly.
But it's supposed to be easy to develop this in these days well i'm talking about back
old days you know what i mean so now but people have syndicate and i can tell you the company was
a pool.com was one of the company was doing this and then um um then this go daddy came into the
picture and then they because imagine their machinery and their coding and their software engineers working behind it.
But it should be changed by now.
But something else, because I think everybody can try and they get tickets, like a point.
Like, okay, you can only look for this domain name five times only or ten times only but that ten times
is not enough so what happened is if you have a 500 registrar so you have a
times 500 the capacity to go in front of the line and get that domain name yes
you know what I mean so that that part it is very crucial. And somehow the winning people are the who got most money to develop this software or mechanism.
But I don't know if a guy like me can buy an API for like $50,000 and start this business.
You know what I mean?
You cannot, Raghu.
Yeah, it's very to rephrase what ragu is saying uh basically there's an ican rule that
says that every domain has to go through a standard expiration process and then after a
domain goes through uh expiration and then the grace period and then pending delete periods
and then the grace period and then pending delete periods.
Then it goes to general availability and the registry that is Verisign,
the people that own .com or .org or what have you.
Registry cannot auction off.
Well, I think it depends on the registry.
But .com, for example, cannot auction off the domain themselves.
dot com for example cannot auction off the domain themselves instead they have to have it be a
lottery where anyone who pings their registry any registrar that pings their registry at the exact
right moment uh can register the name um at at whatever the the fee is that's absolutely correct
absolutely correct and and because it's this like you know know, ICANN is trying to make it fair.
They don't want Verisign to be able to auction off these massive domain sales.
I mean, you see these drop names go for $600,000 last month.
I forget which ones they were.
But I mean, there are some massive auctions at Dropcatch.
And it's unbelievable.
But all that money goes to Drop catch not to verisign that's
right who actually owns the the real estate the dot com um you know keep in mind domainers you
only rent from verisign you only rent from the registry you don't actually own it so uh it's
all the drop catching industry is just downstream of this one very simple ICANN rule that says it has to go to a lottery. And that's why people like drop catch.com have thousands of ICANN accredited
registrar licenses so that they can take part in that lottery and just brute force spam every
registry API to try to catch it at the right moment. Yes, so how come they don't regulate that? And if they recognize it, you and me can recognize this.
Why are they not doing anything about it?
Like you look at the GoDaddy auctions, right?
The expiring names.
The domain is sitting with the GoDaddy,
and after 30 days, they do whatever they want
before even get deletion period, right?
So that's okay.
I can understand up to some point
how they're making millions and
millions of dollars on a weekly or monthly basis. But this part, they should recognize this and say,
look, this should be allowed. And now it's a different subject. We're going to talk about
the policies and I'm not getting into that. But technical part we should able to understand it how that
thing works and then maybe invest some money and codes and engineer reasonably and get this job
done. I mean we're lucky that they have the rule at all because the alternative is that there's no
I mean like VeriSign just opens up the auction themselves.
And I mean, it would be more or less the same dynamic.
It's just you would not have dropcatch.com be a thing.
That entire industry would be wiped out.
And instead, all of that profit would go back to VeriSign. And you would probably have less freedom and fewer players in the market.
And so, you know, it's a weird rule, but it's honestly for Domainer's benefit
that VeriSign has, you know, some checks on their power.
So, yeah, I don't know if there's even better alternatives there.
Yeah, I just want to say something, Amit.
But last thing, what would be the benefit for the very sign to hold these names back
and what they're going to do with it same thing auction it out and and or keep it or what they're
going to do yeah imagine i mean that's six hundred thousand these these domains that go to drop
catching and rack up you know million dollar price tags at the auction all that money could be could
be verisign so verisign would be very glad to not have that rule so that they could
auction it off themselves instead of letting Dropcatch catch it and then sell it off for that
ludicrous amount so uh yeah that's that's why Verisign would want to do that um and Verisign
can't do premium pricing also uh that's another you know i can rule that's specifically targeting verisign as a registry
okay i mean because otherwise i mean they're already a money printer there's a reason
uh that uh you know warren buffett owns uh some significant percentage of air signs because they
have a almost a pure monopoly on uh uh you know internet real estate and dot com so i thought was american play
fair game to the rest of the world okay and uh all this nuclear and all this mr trump tariff and all
that doesn't seems like it's more like a not democracy there it is more like a i don't know
then well make america great again yeah we, we could definitely use with some new entrants
and not to fear, but Unstoppable's, you know,
coming in and being aggressive with our pricing.
And, you know, we're also going to the ICANN auctions
and we're taking a stab at king.com there as well.
But Amit, so back to backord versus uh drop catching could you chime in there
educate me please yeah see uh today i'll tell you about the drops that took place today
a lot of domains were caught by drop catch there's this registrar called drop catch 872
there's this registrar called drop catch 872 i can see here drop catch 1508 so they are paying
for all these registrars too i can it's it's not easy for anybody to build these there are somewhere
around 2000 i've counted for drop catch somewhere around 700 for snap names and about 500 for g name
so they are brute forcing the thing calling the ERP protocol again
and again through all these registrars they own and it's this industry cannot
be replaced until a very big player comes who is willing to spend millions
and millions of dollars right and contrast that with backordering does
backordering happen through a real registrar but
like before the domain gets to the drop you can back order anytime you can back order a domain
that might expire three years from now today it's just like insurance if you have the domain
that you know you want to buy just put it on a back back order and the registrar knows that if
this domain drops you they have to register it.
And if more than two people register it, it goes for the auction.
But that's pre-drop, right?
That's like the domain is expired but hasn't been deleted yet.
That's when the registrar will start those auctions, right?
Like a closeout, expiring auction. The auction starts when the registrar will start those auctions, right? Like a closeout, expiring auction.
The auction starts when the registrar have the domain.
When they catch the domain, the auction starts.
Auction doesn't start before that.
Right. Well, I mean, the domain could already be at the registrar.
I'm going to jump in because I know the answer to that.
Perfect.
Hey guys, by the way. Sorry, I was off and on with phone calls before with family health stuff, but I'm going to try and clear up this thing.
So when you backorder at GoDaddy, which is no longer a thing, well, will no longer be a thing.
They're kind of, you have grandfather credits, but it's going to expire in August.
But in the past, when you backorder from GoDaddy, yes, Brady, what you're talking about did happen.
when you backorder from GoDaddy, yes, Brady, what you're talking about did happen. They would
actually apply the backorder to the expiration auctions, which kind of sucked because if you
want to backorder something quietly, that didn't exist with GoDaddy because there would automatically
be a bid. And as we all know, in GoDaddy expiration auctions, the moment there's a bid,
there's like a hundred times more eyeballs on it. Right. So that kind of, that's kind of.
So yeah. So as soon as you back order it
it it will go to auction meaning other people will see it so yeah so if the domain wasn't
expired yet then it just you're you know your back order just sits there at godaddy but then
at a certain point you know when it expires after 12 26 days expiration when the domain goes into
the listings that that first bid gets applied for you.
So it kind of sucks because again, it gives people nine days and a lot of
people search for domains with bids.
So it's just like, so you didn't want to do that, but, uh, GoDaddy is no
longer doing back orders, uh, as of, you know, in a couple of months, I think
it's August, something that you have, if you still have credits left to use them
up, so it's no longer a thing.
And so, but how how how it works is like
every registrar has two lines to verisign to register domains right and like huge domains or
you know the drop you know they have uh they have um literally they bought up like the lines of like
500 i don't know how many it's a huge number of other registrars they bought up some defunct
registrars the lines for that.
So they have like a thousand connections to Verisign.
So even if you built the best algorithm possible, there are some people who are
doing very well with like a limited number of connections, but they just have the raw
connections, right?
So they can even be a little bit slower, but still get a lot more because they have
these like 1000 connections, whereas other people have, you know, usually two or sometimes, you know,
they'll buy out from other companies, whatever it is.
So they'll have maybe like a dozen or whatnot.
So that's why it's quite different.
And the one thing I have to semi correct you on is that Verisign does not own .com, right?
Verisign does not own .com, right?
Verisign are the caretakers of .com.
Verisign are the caretakers of .com.
It's not like the other new NGTLDs that they bought.
They paid the auction price for it, right?
With the understanding they could change the pricing, whatever it is.
Verisign, they're the caretakers of .com.
And with their agreement with the Department of Commerce, which, you know, unfortunately,
the prices are going up, you know, four times every six years me i i don't it's not justified but you know that's another
discussion for the other day however whatever that price is the wholesale price they cannot charge
more than that so it's not that they can't auction the you know the expired dot coms off it's just
that if they do they can't charge more than the registration fee. So there's no point in them doing it.
Right.
So that's where it becomes a little bit of a game and they, you know, they want to be registrar.
And I think there's a rule change that they can be registrar, but they wouldn't be able to be a registrar for.com names.
And which, which again, what's the point of being a registrar if you can't, you know, have your clients register.com names.
So again, it's, it's all these little things that kind of fit in together.
Like it's the Department of Commerce that sets the limit.
And that's why there's they don't because they really want to auction stuff off.
Right.
They at one point they were talking about doing one of the one letters.
I think it was O.com.
They wanted to auction off for charity, right?
Because they just wanted to get the ball rolling and go, OK, well,
they want to be able to get different price points. it's really really important that we understand that no they
do not own.com verisign does not own.com we the world owns.com and they are the caretakers for it
and that's a huge difference that we really have we can't ignore because you know again they want
to roll over the prices and put prices up and it's no, no, no, it's not the same thing. And that's one problem with, with ICANN is that they're trying
to structure all the top level domains, whether it be NGTLDs or the classic ones or whatever you
want to call them, and then try to package them into as, as, you know, limited number of
differentiators. Like, and like, that's what's happening with a couple of the older extensions
is that the, like the,
some of the rules, not the pricing rules, but some of the other rules are getting changed.
And it's just, we got to be careful.
And again, I don't know which exactly extensions there are, but there's some people really
good in this industry who are keeping an eye out.
And whenever you hear these people ramble on a bit, it's important to listen to them
and to like, they say, well, do this, do that, or send a letter to ICANN.
It's important we do that sometimes.
Ramble over. Hi, by the way the way yeah thank you for the ramble uh very informative and i appreciate the nuance uh you know it's easy enough to say vera sign owns it but uh that it is
it is true they i think they have a lease on the uh on the tld uh that they get i mean at the end
of the day it's like they get a grant from the US government
to run this business.
It is more or less like being the power company, right?
Like you have a natural monopoly
because of the network effects
and because of the cost of running that infrastructure.
And so the government highly regulates it
because it is like absolutely critical
global infrastructure for the modern age.
And you would best believe that, you know,
if we broke out in World War III, you know,
the DOD would be getting their dirty little fingers
into ICANN policy and working with VeriSign
to potentially shut down websites on, you know,
foreign actors that they want to censor and whatnot. And so it's really all downstream of,
like, projecting American power. And it's, you know, it's good for Americans and people that
are aligned with the liberal world order that, you know, the West does have power over this.
And also, and we don't see like absolutely awful, you know, censorship on the internet,
you know, for the most part, things that happen on the dark web are pretty, pretty salacious, like dark pools and hit men and, you know, child pornography and things like this.
So for the most part, we have a somewhat free internet.
It's just, you know, VeriSign tends to renseek there
and there has to be a balance of play.
But yeah, I appreciate all that, Arif.
I mean, I am curious why they don't support
back orders anymore at GoDaddy.
Yeah, it's very curious.
It's too much of a pain in the butt for them.
They have a lot of connections,
like they're registering domains all the time right um it's a good question though because uh i mean they
they might they might have shut it down because they would rather warehouse the domains for
themselves uh and they don't want you know more people uh on there i mean i don't know if that
were true they wouldn't have the the expiring au either. So I don't think that's a good explanation. Well, the expiring auctions for them.
Can I just chime in, guys? Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, sorry. I've only got a couple of
minutes left. I didn't want to miss, I think, incredible conversation. Really, really informative.
I knew you could invest in domains. Who knew there was a whole side hustle or livelihood to be made in domains?
The reason I'm up and I wanted to ask the question, our platform enables zero code decommerce deployment.
And what I really want to do is be able to give the ownership of the brands to to the brands, you know, like our brand uh or certainly our white label solutions and i wondered
like is there a way to integrate like a domain buying system so they can be added to the pages
that we offer our brands we currently got about 30 brands live um and there's more coming but
this is something i really wanted to be able to to offer them um and so kind of that's my question
yeah we can we can definitely talk about that with Unstoppable.
I'll shoot you a DM to Unify account right now
and we can talk about that.
But we're certainly interested in, you know,
allowing all kinds of no-code tools, zero-code tools
or any kind of tools where small businesses are getting started.
We want to offer you guys an API to allow your customers
to register domains and look through our marketplace. So let me send you a DM right now businesses are getting started uh we want to offer you guys an api to allow your customers to
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now and we can talk about a potential partnership i love it thank you so much we're here to uh to
take back what shopify stole and make it decentralized hell yeah i love it i'll send
you that dm right now thanks for dropping in. Appreciate the time. Thanks again, guys.
Yeah.
Did you say VeriSign is not a registry?
They're not allowed to be a registrar.
Yeah.
Technically, they're a registry.
They operate. They're not a registrar.
They want to be a registrar.
And at one point, I think they were actually granting permission, but just not for .com.
But again, what's the point of being a registrar if you can't sell .com? I think back in the day, they did have the biggest registrar as well.
And then some regulation passed or a rule got passed, and then they weren't allowed to be biggest registrar as well. And then some reg regulation passed or a rule got
passed and then they weren't allowed to be a registrar also. I don't know if they never were,
but maybe in the history when things got split off, because, you know, ICANN didn't exist at
one point, right? In the nineties and that got created. And then, you know, it was a network
solutions was like pretty much the only one they split off from something
else. And there's a lot, a lot of splitting that happened in the nineties. Right. But you know,
overall it's really, you're very, very, they, they, they want to get into every aspect of it,
but you know, even on, on for a while, like when GoDaddy tried to become a registry, right. Cause
they are a registry now, but, but they, but they have very strict rules in that,
like the registry side and the registrar side are not really supposed to talk to each other.
And it's supposed to be like a, you know, a wall and it's, you know, is it true? Does it,
you know, how much protection is there for the rest of us? There's consumer protection rules,
right? That are supposed to be in place to prevent different levels from, you know,
kind of working together and, you know and and bring up
prices for consumers but you know we'll see i don't know how that got to be allowed but it's
gonna be more and more and we'll see again like i i have i have issues with that but you know it is
what it is yeah because godaddy operates as a registry and registrar for dot club yeah about
i think it's about five other clds CLDs. Maybe a little bit more
than that. Yeah, they have like DocTV, DocCo,
Doc Club.
I forget what the other ones are, but yeah, they have a few.
I think they have Doc Gay. No, no,
I think Porkborn.
Doesn't Porkborn run Doc Gay?
And they're also a registrar? Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, so it's like, you
can play both. But I think
Verisime was restricted from being a
registrar because of their their operate operator status of dot com and actually if dot gay i i don't
know if it's actually pork bun that owns it or it's just like the same owners right but even then
like the i can when they do their background checks they that does count for something right
you can't just sneak stuff in like that so it's probably been approved you know and plus it's not one of the
biggest registries either so you know at a certain point when they're small enough it's yeah okay it's
let it go but you know when bigger bigger uh like dot com that's just you know it's the that's half
the internet right so it's it's a fascinating case study on economic policy. I mean, you can look at all the regulations on VeriSign and throughout the domains industry,
and you can liken it to rent control and zoning laws in a city.
So again, let's look at the rules on VeriSign.
VeriSign is not, you know, they have very strict price controls
where they're only allowed to do
slight price increases over
a set number of years.
Those have to be signed off on.
I think Trump approved
a longstanding block on price increases
starting in 2016 or 2017 or so.
And now, like, imagine...
It's the opposite of that.
It was the earlier years, um, that the
prices were not going up and it was Trump that, uh, uh, um, his, uh, industry lifted
the block and walked it.
Yeah.
So that's, that's what, that's what I said.
Okay.
I thought you meant the opposite.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, and also like, like we were talking about, they can't do premium pricing.
Uh, they can't reclaim drops and. They can't reclaim drops and sell them
at a premium. And so all of this is akin to rent control more or less in a city.
So if you have rent control in a city, it seems great. What's the guy,
Mehmad Zorani in New York City is like, we're going to freeze the rent.
You know, that's going to solve all our economic problems. You're just like, oh,
why didn't I think of that? We'll just say no one can raise any prices. Well, that's not,
you know, if you look at, you know, economic history, typically that doesn't work out in
your favor in the long run. And the problem is that when you freeze rents, you're basically
not allowing the property owners to get the fair market value for their property. And this also
means that if prices aren't going up, then demand isn't fleeing to other alternatives.
And that just puts a damper
on investment across the variety of competitors that there could be. And let me let me just
bear this out. And if you if you take this to the domains industry, what you can see is, well,
if VeriSign were increasing prices on dot coms to their heart's content to whatever the market clearing rate on dot coms would be, then you would drive a lot more people to cheaper extensions like the dot xyz, the dot orgs, the like the premium real estate and not everyone you know wants to afford the premium real estate but instead you have this basically like long like managed uh like uh rent
seeking that verisign does where there's not much competition because verisign doesn't raise their
prices so it's like well why not just stick on dot com it's only 11 anyway and then you end up
you know in in your attempt to try to make a more competitive market by preventing them from, uh, raising their prices.
What you have actually done is prevented, uh, new competitors from propping up because why would they switch?
The prices aren't high enough to warrant them switching.
And so it has this very counter intuitive effect.
I'm going to jump in because like, first of all, like, again, they don't own the.com namespace we do.
Uh, and then also the, yeah, but how much, how much of the profit do you see
from the costs are going down?
And at one point, I don't know if it's the case right now, but at one point,
a few years ago, uh, Verisign was the most profitable company, uh, for employee.
Like they're just a cash cow.
And the thing is, again, they don't own it.
They didn't pay for it.
They were given the contract.
And again, it's ours.
So as a public interest in the world,
why hasn't-
They're classified as the operator of the dot com.
Why hasn't this uh contract been
like gone for tender right to get the the lowest bidders like i'm the first person will say
bear sign technically has done a good job like we haven't had any major internet outages or dot-com
outages or whatever it is but at the same time you know there how much is a premium on that there's
there's competitors who say they can come in and do it for like two dollars wholesale or three
dollars wholesale right and that's and it's why aren't we, there's competitors who say they can come in and do it for like $2 wholesale or $3 wholesale.
Right.
And that's, and it's, why aren't we investing in that?
Like, yeah, if they can't provide the security for that, then okay.
Yeah.
You don't give it to those people at the lower price, but at the same time, there's
a lot of other competitors out there who, you know, the registrar registry services,
right.
Who, who are doing a good job at the other extensions and who could probably do the
same thing for $2 wholesale, $3 wholesale.
And again, it belongs to us.
And to compare.com to the other ones
is still not a fair comparison.
Every TLD is a little bit different.
Some are interchangeable, others are not.
But again, it's in our interest
for the prices to go down for the users of the world.
You know, again, like as the end user, right, as a domain investor, it's a different thing, you know.
But, you know, as an end user and people of the world using the Internet, you know, it's we want the lowest prices possible.
auction for their ng tlds yes they have a right to make a profit and their right to you know do
their whatever pricing is with the given rules that were there when they you know paid at the
auction but again not going to confuse things verisign did not go through that process right
and they do not have the right to uh uh to increase arbitrarily you know thankfully there were some
rules in place but again these seven percent four out of six years
it's more than inflation so like and their costs in technology costs is a downward cost right the
cost of technology these days it just keeps going down so like again they have no justification for
increasing prices and there's no reason for it yeah i mean i i'm not sitting here being a VeriSign apologist. Don't get me wrong. They were in a very privileged position to be in the right place at the people around the world that are using the internet.
I mean, it's like, it's very similar to a lot of these defense contracts. Like,
there's, you know, two or three defense primes in Lockheed Martin, or, you know, the Raytheons of
the world, and only two or three of them can even afford to build the technology and make the bids for these
DOD contracts. There's basically no competition. They do cost plus accounting. And so the price
is just in plate. And of course, the government has no profit incentive. They don't care if costs
run high. They don't see any benefit for keeping a lean operation. And so it just goes on unchecked.
And, you know, these guys who are in lucky enough positions that are networked and win these
contracts, you know, laugh their way to the bank. And so I'm totally down for more competition.
And we would see much, much more competitive pricing if Verisign wasn't in this king made
position by having that contract.
But guys, we've had a great little space here.
Arif, it was great to chat and to hear some extra nuance there.
But yeah, guys, it's $5.com Friday.
Drop over by Unstoppable.
And let me know if you need to get into the Domainer Club
if you feel that we've left you out.
Again, it is, you know, you have to have a certain number of domains with us and to be a high value domainer.
But we can work with you.
And, yeah, any closing thoughts from you, Ish, Arif, Amit, and the rest of the gang here?
No, it's been fun.
Always good to talk domains.
Great participation today.
I just think in summary,
what you guys are offering is super generous.
For those that didn't hear earlier,
we have an opportunity to now buy
Doc Homes every day for five bucks,
not just Fridays.
And some other CODs like XYZ.
I'd love to connect you guys with an extension that I work with.
It's a CCTLD.
I think they were listening.
I don't know.
I think you talked to them, .cv.
Yeah, we've talked to them.
I don't think we've integrated, actually.
Yeah, it would be nice to integrate them.
And I think that, you know, ultimately, you know,
you guys are building a competitive product brick by brick. I like the grassroots approach. And, you know, there's an incentive for all of us to tell more people about UD. Raghu talked about that, you know, you get the credit.
credit so it's it's it's like kind of like a refreshing to see something being built in this
manner um where it's like you guys are building it with the community and rewarding people for
participation by getting cheaper pricing and reducing their expenses domaining is fun um you
can um make money with hand regist, but just do the due diligence.
Don't get attached to your names, guys.
They're just names.
There are many more.
Do the due diligence.
Price them to sell.
Make profits.
Don't be too gritty.
And hopefully you guys will make more sales.
Well put-ish.
All right, guys.
Happy Friday.
Get out there and touch some grass this weekend.
