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DOODLES COOK & PUDGY SBT on Coffee with Captain #723 - powered by $APE
Recorded: Sept. 10, 2024 Duration: 2:11:12Space Recording
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Better leave a to the professionals
Blast by Bumby, blah blah blah
Started off with a bitch, now I got coin
I see where y'all going, been poppin' since web 1
Hella hooked on with you, I was livin' a dream
Now I'm on web 3, and it is with a seams Toppin' the pyramid one, hella hooked on with you I was livin' a dream, now I'm on web three
And it is with the seams, top in the pyramid schemes
I'm tellin' ya, I sell you a percentage on Nebula
Shout out to Vince, yo, set it up
Surfing on the web and I'm shooting at three
I've been goaded when I got my T, I'm an elegant boy
From a different planet, yeah
So I got my drink, I'm ridin' in the 1920s model T Ford
Car, era, lore Call me Levi, play'm riding in the 1920s, Model T Ford, car, era, Lord
Call me Levi, playing on the keys, boy
And I'm about to put my gloves on, if I said it then I meant that
Yeah, I like that one, I'm about to get that
Crash that whip for the drumsticks, whiplash, I'm about to get them all
Are you with that? In a white boat, surrounded by blue
I want one, but I got a cop turned, I wanna fly high in the sky
Arms out wide, tryna sewer, few more birds I feel
I'm on fire, Ricky, Bobby Cracking the pavement, Whitney, Bobby
I'm a Saki, Bomb, Hiroshima, Nagasaki
Bruce Wayne been a dog, and I keep it 101
Cause I'm feeling kinda spotty Sippin' on some rock and I'm sippin' on octane
The only thing around my neck is the block swing
Now I got coins, I see where y'all go
Been poppin' since web 1, hella hooked on web 2
I was livin' a dream, now I'm on web 3
And it is what it seems, top in the pyramid schemes
I'm tellin' ya, I sell you a percentage on Nebula
Shout out to Viz, yo, set it up
NFT, Twitter, blockchain, team with the ghosts
And we ballin' like the brown jays
Crypto, crypto, we can TM with the ghosts and we bond like the brown jays.
Crypto, crypto.
We can make a trade, get the memo.
Reviews not falling for the FOMO.
Listening to coffee with Captain.
You know we were a wide day local.
GM, GM.
Drop us a GM in the chat down below.
Give us some love on the space up top.
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We'll get rolling here in about 30 seconds. I just went and caught me a half base.
Man, I got to shout out the 40.
Starting off with a bit.
Now I got coin.
Mumbling for stream drop up top.
I'll fire one up in like five seconds.
The hoops on web two.
I was living the dream.
Now I'm on web three.
And it is with the seams.
Topping the pyramid schemes.
I'm telling you.
I sell you a percentage on Nebula.
Shout out to Vince.
Yo, set it up.
Breaking them all the tools, wine.
You got knowledge of mood, son.
I'm shocking in shades with my brother in suits.
Yeah, them blues is coming.
Even though it's hard to pick, any mighty mo.
Soda on the mix, no biting lips, it's time to go.
Index number one, no thumbs up, you gotta scroll.
Looking at the ghosts in studio, it's time to go.
Had a helmet on by myself until I met a mask that wanted to have a face off.
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Welcome to the future. Welcome to Coffee with Captain GM, GM. Thanks so much for joining us.
If you haven't done so already, please do us a favor, drop us a GM in the chat down below,
head up top, scroll all the way to the right, and give us some love on today's space. Those likes,
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hit our reminders for the remainder of the week.
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powered, presented by Harpy.
It is a Tuesday,
so we'll have our Harpy hack of the week here in a little bit.
Steve, my co-host,
is having some technical challenges.
He's probably going to leave here
and bounce back in a few minutes
to jump back up here. We'll give it a take two. But again, if you haven't done so already,
give us some love on the space up top. Hit that like post and bookmark. We would greatly appreciate
it. I have a confession to make. As soon as we make sure we'll do a mic check on Steve.
I'm Kat, by the way. Never any financial advice on this show. I don't know what we'll get into
today, but crypto is risky. NFT is risky, even though they seem to be ripping as of late
over a long enough timeline,
and most of them probably trend to zero.
So please don't put any money in any of this stuff
that you can't afford to lose.
Have some fun with it.
Hopefully you get some entertainment,
maybe some education.
Certainly protect yourself and your crypto wallets today.
But Steve, GM, have we conquered X this morning?
Oh, nope.
Ooh.
I say I heard you for like a second,
but you were very choppy.
So we'll do a take three.
Maybe bounce and come back
and we'll give it another go here in a few seconds.
X is being peculiar.
Maybe it's because I saw,
I don't know if they're correlated or not,
but I did happen to see this morning
at like 5 a.m., 5.30 a.m., Elon was doing
a stream, or actually the SpaceX account
was doing a stream that had,
it was a video stream, live video stream that had
well over a million, I think it was like 1.2
when I saw it, live viewers.
Not sure if that created
any little glitches here with
X this morning or not, but
hopefully we'll get things rolling here. If not,
one way or another, we'll figure this thing out and get things off to the races but last reminder check one check two
steve how we thinking all right well it can you hear me because it says it's adding a speaker
still but it's working yeah you're you're clear do you want to do you want to attempt the co-host
let's try the co-host let's let's send. You're going to laugh when you hear my confession this
morning.
It says Steve's
the co-host. Let's see if he can mute and unmute.
All right. It doesn't say I'm the
co-host on my screen yet. It still says I'm a speaker,
but as long as I can speak, we will
make it ride. All right. We're riding. We're riding.
It doesn't say you're a co-host of mine. Can you mute? That's the
trick. Yep, you're muted. We're good.
Awesome. Locked and loaded. Third time's the charm. So my confession, Steve,
it's actually near and dear to your heart. This is semi-embarrassing. I mean, there's no way around
it. It is very embarrassing for someone like myself who's not only been in the space since
early 2020, but hosting this show on the space for today's number 723. So 723 weekdays in a row,
on the space for today's number 723.
So 723 weekdays in a row.
Been in the space pretty active since early 2020.
And I was today's days old
when I found out that the trait that your ape is famous for
or known for,
that pays homage to the CryptoPunk trait,
is not a spinner hat.
In fact... It's a Goog a googler no it's not do you know what the trait is called in the punk collection i do i forget we don't call it spinner
hat they call it like something well they call it spinner hat in that collection i remember what
they call it in the punk collection but it's it's taken after a googler hat which is a hat they used
to give the googlers when they would start that's that's where it comes from but it's not called a spinner hat it's not called a googler hat this you is a hat they used to give to Googlers when they would start. That's where it comes from,
but it's not called a spinner hat.
It's not called a Googler hat.
You're going to feel as bad as I did
when you realize what it's actually called.
It was like one of those moments.
Do they call it like propeller hat or something?
Nope.
I know they, I've definitely read this before.
What is it?
This is amazing because I'm going to let you keep guessing
because the more guesses you make,
the better the actual answer is going to make you feel or the worse,
depending on what side you look at it.
Yeah, I don't remember.
I do remember because it's not called, I know Beanie is Beanie,
but I know it's not called Beanie as a trait, if I recall correctly.
That's the correct answer, actually.
Is it called Beanie?
And that's why Beanie is called Beanie, right?
I thought that might be.
I had no idea.
Actually, so Tyler did it because one sold for
a quarter million dollars.
He said another Grail Beanie Punk
sells. I comment. I clap back.
Are we officially calling this the Beanie trait now?
Thinking he's calling it the Beanie trait because
it was Beanie who made it infamous.
No, I had it backwards.
Beanie is actually
called... He took on the moniker Beanie
because that is the trait. The spinner hat is called a Beanie. The actual Beanie is actually called, he took on the moniker beanie because that is the trait.
The spinner hat is called a beanie.
The actual beanie is called a woven cap or knitted cap, I believe.
I should have that one figured out now as well.
But I like check Tyler.
He's like, I don't know, man.
I've always called this the beanie trait.
That's what it's called in the collection.
I've known it as nothing else other than that.
And I was like, well, what is the actual beanie hat called then?
And I had to look it up.
So yeah, I was today's days old when I found that the beanie character actually is a, you
know, comes from, takes inspiration from the beanie hat trait, which we know as the spinner
hat trait.
So this is not a, the more, you know, segment, but I feel like I've, I've gained a significant
amount of really important education in web3 and crypto this morning, Steve.
Yeah, I've actually heard that one as well.
I know because I remember early on, I remember people calling it Beanie.
That's why for a moment it clicked.
I'm like, it's not actually called a Beanie, is it?
I see Outer smashing the laugh emojis, and I can actually physically see her.
It's like I have a vision pro, and I can actually actually see outer just shaking her head at the two of us how like she's probably disgusted by the fact that we didn't
realize that that is actually the beanie trait yeah no i actually it's funny like i remember
people saying like beanie hat and we call it beanie early on when i first got it back in 2021
so i'm not i'm not shocked and as soon as like i started thinking about it i'm like all right
so it is a googler hat which i know one one of Outer's Friends has. And that's when I
learned about the Googler hat type thing. I knew that a spinner hat, it wasn't right, but it sounded
right. But as soon as I clicked for a second, I'm like, yep, everyone used to call it the beanie
back in the day. And I was like, that's right. Like, cause I'd always think it was weird.
People would be like, oh, you're beanie, beanie. And I'd be like, it's not a beanie. It's a spinner hat. Like it's a propeller hat. It's not a, like, that's not what
a beanie is. So not super shocked, but good to, good, good, good to get that sorted out, Cap.
But yeah, no, I, I, that's a, it's a classic look on the ape too. And tempers who we're having on
today tempered my ape. Also, I think Klaino's Monday as well.
So no more this week, but Klaino's Monday,
working on a couple other guests for early next week as well.
So see if we can get them through.
Because as we know, Thursday is an ApeCoin kind of day.
We're going to be going, you know, we go with Lost.
We got a bunch of you with AI.
So Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday will be potential guest day.
So get Klaino's on Monday.
We got Timpers on today, this week.
And I don't know if we have anybody else booked for the rest of the week,
but I'm looking around.
We do, but I will confirm and get back to you.
Looking forward to it, though. I mean, today is probably maybe our most overdue interview of all those legacy,
those OG 2020 crypto NFT projects. This, 2020 crypto project, NFT projects,
this one is certainly overdue.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Timpers is one of the ones, I mean, I sent a DM to Insight at one point
because Insight had always reached out.
Hey, like, you know, we would talk a little bit,
but like I never knew a lot about Timpers.
And I almost became to the point where I was embarrassed,
where, you know, I almost didn't respond or didn't do things
because I'm like, I need to research this. I need to do this. But, you know, it would didn't respond or didn't do things. Cause I'm like, I need to research this.
I need to do this, but you know, it'd be hard to find time, hard to find time.
Next thing you know, I'd be working on other stuff.
And I just never got into it because you only have so many places you can go, but the history
of them is really, really interesting.
So I'm looking forward to diving into that.
I definitely learned a lot in a sort of interview prep time that I previously didn't have.
I know other people are familiar with, so that's good.
But yeah, give us a like or retweet a comment down below as we get ready for that.
Because again, like Chimper's joining us at 9 a.m.,
so we should definitely get them up and running this morning
and definitely get some more peeps in the room as we get this thing going.
You know, I know we have about five more minutes of shenanigans for cold open as we get this thing going.
I have, I mean, I have a couple things on my list, but it's pretty light.
I mean, I have the Pudgy Penguin Soulbound token we wanted to revisit from yesterday.
Chimper's coming on.
The Machi token, which I got.
I sold like, I think, 80% of already.
So that was a successful play. I'm sitting there with a
little moon bag. Basically when it opened up, if people missed it, we'll talk about it again a
little bit, but basically it opened up at a two X from the presale. So it was distributed. I sold
half, tried to sell more, but the site wasn't letting it go through. It was sort of like a
congested network, even at 3% slippage. So I waited till later made a little bit less money selling later, uh, for the other sort of, you know, little bit of it. But I've got, I've got
like, uh, I've got like a thousand Machi left for like a little moon bag, which moon bag is such a
stupid myth. Like the moon bag, like that's something that we should probably dispel.
Everyone always says, keep a moon bag, keep a moon bag. The fuck's a moon bag. Like you keep
like a thousand out of your 5,000 distribution, your 5 000 distribution isn't going to be that much to
begin with a moon the only way you're getting a bag that's going to the moon that's actually going
to be significant in any way is if it's a major play so it's like people are always like keep a
moon bag it's like the biggest myth where like you keep a nominal amount that like it's like if this
thing 10x is i'm gonna make like a few hundred dollars yeah you keep a nominal amount that like it's like if this thing 10x is i'm gonna make like a few hundred dollars yeah you
keep a nominal amount that goes to zero usually yeah that's what a moon bag is you keep a nominal
amount to lose basically like so i'll probably end up selling the rest today at some point or
if it sees any move up because like well good on you for getting your profits back i mean that's
you can't lose at this point enjoy the free roll yeah i'm more than up i'm up i'm up a few hundred
dollars and like yeah it's like it's just funny because like, I always thought about that. People were like, well, at least
keep a little for a moon bag. I'm like, that's like for people who are rich, who have like,
you know, somebody who had like a hundred thousand Machi and sold like 50,000 of it and they're
free rolling. And I know that it didn't work that way because they had limited numbers in the
presale, but like, you know, sold like 50 or 60,000 of it. And they're like, yeah, I'm keeping
a little moon bag because then it's worth something if it, if it reallyale, but like, you know, sold like 50 or 60,000 of it. And they're like, yeah, I'm keeping a little moon bag because then it's worth something
if it, if it really moons.
But like, I think the moon bag is the biggest myth in, in web three where anybody who like,
it's all relative to what your wallet size is.
But like, if you don't have a wallet of extreme size with, uh, with, with some tokens, like
there's no such thing.
So I'll probably end up selling the rest today and just booking the rest of that win and
calling it a day and being like, all right, you know,
didn't quite made my money back and then made, you know,
a couple hundred bucks and I'll make a few hundred more.
And then we'll figure out where else in the ecosystem that money goes.
Cause it's kind of found money, which was nice. But, and by the way,
good for people who are in it, who are playing the game,
who are betting on it. It may be the next 100x. I just don't know.
But I just, I'm, I don't, I've said it before.
I'll say it again.
I don't have the stomach for meme coins.
Like, I'm in like one meme coin right now because of a, you know, a friend was like,
hey, like, you know, check this out.
Like, I'm kind of working with it.
I'm like, okay, I'll buy a little bit for support.
But like, I am not one to be in there.
I am not one to be in there I am
I am terrible at getting in and out.
terrible at getting in and out
I don't like to
like
if it 2x's I immediately want to sell half
but you know and some people are like that's a smart
move and other people are like that's not how you make money
and so like never get the same advice
but I always sell if it goes 2x to get myself
free rolling and then
I keep selling on the way up I'm watching the chart
constantly and my favorite moment
in a meme coin,
win or lose, is when I fucking sell it.
Yeah, oof.
I had, like I said earlier,
I picked up that one that you're referencing.
Had even looked at it.
I shouldn't have opened the wall.
I just looked at it now.
Oof.
Yeah, I said this. I'm not playing the game
because I don't feel like I'm getting it in plus EV anywhere.
And like, I don't know, man, I struggle.
Like, I want to support people.
I just, I'm not made for the meme coin streets.
Maybe that changes with Ape Chain and Ape Express,
and I play around a little bit over there.
I just, all pump funda is turning out right now as losers.
Like, it's just, it is what it is.
Like, look at the data.
It's not looking good and
and when you have majors ripping when you have i mean speaking of ripping i'm not not even
exaggerating not because it's sponsoring the show but i believe ape chain is or ape is probably the
best performing crypto asset over the last week it's pretty it's going bananas yeah it's it's
it's like it's interesting it's like i'm similar lord it's like i'm not knocking people who are playing in the meme coins i'm not good enough to be in the three percent that win
i'm in the 97 that lose i can't constantly watch charts and then like so like i'm just i'm very
bad at it and i'm not like it's an openly admitting i i just prefer something that there's there's more
substance to right i i don't know if a chain is a hit or if those syncs actually stand up
and Ape continues to be used for years to come.
But what I do know,
I'm 100% certain
that there will be far more uses,
like dozens,
if not hundreds of more uses for that token,
than there will 99.9% of meme coins
that get created on PumpFun or somewhere else.
And to me, that's,
if the token is going to be used,
there is a far greater chance
that it maintains or even appreciates in value
over a long enough timeline.
Like, it's just, I'm much more,
I'm not one for governance tokens,
but I do see value in utility and in gaming tokens. To me, it
makes more rational and logical
sense. I know this is probably the most mid-curve
take I've ever had. It's just
how my brain works is,
okay, I can see there's a path
to this actually working out
with some underlying fundamentals.
Where with a meme coin, it's
you've got
to catch lightning in a bottle. You gotta get lucky
and hope to hit on one of the ones
that catch the zeitgeist in sticks.
Very, very, very, very, very hard to do.
One in like,
at this point,
it's probably like one in,
I don't know,
a million?
One in 100,000
will actually catch
any sort of,
any sort of sustainable attention share?
I don't know.
Yeah,
and like everybody, like, I hear people being, Oh, set stop losses and gains where you
sell and all these things. It's like, I just, I don't want, if I wanted to be a full-time
trader setting stop losses and I would just be a full-time trader and trad fi already.
Like that would have happened already because I was involved, uh, deeply with trad fi in,
in, in the fact that it became like my major hobby was I listened to CNBC. I listened
to podcasts. I studied my stocks. I was always playing around in that market. I was teaching
other people. I was considering being a financial advisor as a job. If I wanted to be doing that
sort of thing, reading charts and setting all sorts of, then I would have just become a
traditional trader. I didn't. To me, it know, to me, it's like the community aspect is fun.
The utility aspect is fun. Like what this technology does to advance society is fun.
And I'm not knocking people who are in the mean streets. Like I said, like good for them. Like
it's the same way. Like when people are like, Hey, like you don't like, I've never played,
I've never played craps. I've never played, you know, I've done the roulette wheel very few times.
Like I've basically done a little bit of blackjack, some slots and some poker.
Like I like being in casinos.
I like playing around in casinos.
I'll hang around with my friends around things.
But like, you know, like it's interesting because it's like the only spot where it's
like if I go to a casino in Vegas with my friends and I'm like, I'm going to hit the
sports book, then maybe the poker room, then I might play some blackjack.
And people are like, what?
You don't play, you don't play slots and you don't play, uh, you know, like three card poker. Wow. What a
loser. Like it's the only place in web three where it's like, if you're not playing around in like
these streets, they're like, you just don't get it. You're not in the culture. And like, I, I,
I actually, I think it's cool. People are enjoying it. I think it's cool. People are having fun.
Like the meme going streets, not only has it spawned an entire fun,
like sort of like group of people who are trading in the streets and having fun with it,
it's spawned an entire group of content creators. Like GG does like an update on like meme coins,
like every day. Like it's, it's, so it's great that all these things exist. Like I'm not telling
people not to have fun with it. It's just, it's interesting. I'll be like, it's not for me. I've
tried it. I'm not good. And people will be like, you just don't get it, man. It's like,
it's not about getting it. It's about understanding. Like, I don't want to do
something where I'm in the three percent. Like, again, it's similar to like, like a sports
gambling or sports betting. Like I just understand what I can do and what I can't do. I don't bet
with size in either of those because I know people like you and Bunchu exist in the sports
betting and daily fantasy streets respectively, respectfully.
And betting with any sort of size is a losing proposition for me.
I want to bet $5 here and there, get excited about a game and call it a day.
So it's just, it's interesting to me that people, people tend to like, you know, people
tend to like jump on people who aren't like deep in the meme coin streets.
I just, I can't be in that 3% of people who are victorious there. So it's just not for me. I'm constantly watching the
charts and then I'm happy when I sell. Yeah. I don't even watch the charts. I just like,
I just, I have such a, I don't know what the word is, but it's like, I'm apathetic. Is that the
right word? Like I just, it doesn't do it for me. I don't even enjoy it. So it's just like,
I'm throwing money at something. If it hits, it's it's a win if it misses it's an l like and it's just like i actually whereas like dfs or something like that
i actually enjoy the journey regardless of the outcome but hey a couple things real quick steve
i know i know we talked a lot of doodles yesterday but i see austin out there it was great to hear
from him on modern market uh also shout out we haven't seen a wild poppy for a while. So just going to quickly recognize those two legends in the crowd.
And yeah, I didn't know if there's anything on, as far as like news today,
I didn't know if there's anything on the doodles front that we needed to circle back to,
if you think we covered it all yesterday.
And then what else do you have on your list today?
Yeah, I mean, we spent some deep time on doodles yesterday.
It was a good conversation for sure about sort of the model they're building,
seeing how they're rewarding holders.
I think the big unlock for me, again, might be a video or a long thread or something,
was the idea that, you know, with Doodles, it's like it creates this new model
where it's like, you know, if you're part of this emerging media brand,
which is, you know, we talked about the accomplishment and what they did.
It's like the idea that there's two ways to sort of participate
and be part of what they're doing. Like there's multiple ways. But if you want to be like, you look at the they did it's like the idea that there's two ways to sort of participate and be part of what they're doing like there's multiple ways but if you want to be like
you look at the movie it's like there are people who you buy a grail and you sort of get that rookie
card that one of 15 mellows of one of 15 do you think this this news this momentum is what because
like the floors up like 20 of a night we haven't seen moves like this in a while i'm assuming it's
a little bit of like a flop lag on on the weekend is is this is this something else unrelated it's got to be related to this weekend and all their
stacking wins right i think i think it's a lag like market where we have this gun shy market
that isn't always sure quite where to go with things and it's like the more people are seeing
like oh we're seeing like the local toronto news stations and which is a major market covering this
thing and those videos are getting in time.
Like the images are merging.
People are like, oh shit.
Like they're hobnobbing with actual like real, you know, filmmakers.
And so I think that part of it is, is interesting to people.
And they're starting to realize it's there, but it is funny because we talked about it
yesterday.
You buy the floors, you can send them to space.
You can accrue your space miles, but like, you know, it's like, if you want to buy those
one of 15 mellows, it's like getting those rare rookie cards.
And if you want to buy one of those 15 skellows it's like getting those rare rookie cards and if you want to buy one of those 15 skellies it's like those rare rookie
cards those rares are going to be in and you can spend up or you can participate in the community
and get yourself to be a part of it and i think that that's cool when you see like the roops and
the nezes of the world who have a cameo in the movie and it's like yeah you got in the movie
because you got in the short film because you were participatory in the community and they got you in there.
So I think it's just a new model where like it's one of those, you know, Julian said on this show, participation is the meta.
He talked about sort of the, you know, what you're buying, what you're doing and how they can make sure they reward those people.
And you're starting to see that come to fruition early on.
My biggest thing was, you know, I couldn't make it because of some personal stuff
and then I got sick anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered.
But I just, I mean, I was saying to Don yesterday,
biggest bag fumble of my life.
I've been to like every major doodles moment, it feels like.
Like I was there in Austin, Texas
for the first South by Southwest
sort of crazy IRL experience.
A big fumble, man.
Knowing you, we would have Pharrell on the show this week
had you been there.
Yeah, it was bad, man. But it was like, I mean i mean i couldn't make it but it's like i sat there and
saw the pictures and it was like ah fuck man like it was like just one of those ones where
it's like this is like like i was there for that and i was there for the chain smokers concert and
the introduction of the julian's major moment and that was you know and somehow ended up in there
with the team and like the vip area for that made no sense but i was up there with b love and you know uh it was like those that are new here
that aren't aware of what julian's major moment is that steve's referring to that's the powerpoint
steve gets gets uh gets really excited for powerpoints it was julian's major moment was a
powerpoint presentation it was awesome it was i mean it was like it was like hey this is what
we're gonna do and it's funny hearing him be like, yeah, you know, we should have set better expectations.
I'm like, my expectations were set perfectly accordingly to that.
You brought in Pharrell, you brought in Alexis Ohaney,
and you introduced the direction you're going.
You talked about building an actual fucking business.
You built an actual business.
Then you went ahead and got yourself in the Toronto International Film Festival.
So like, to me, that was a cool moment.
It's like, it's like I was there for that.
And then I was there for the opening of camp and, you know, all these different things. And then it's like, you know, project gray.
And then it's like, I end up, you know, missing the biggest moment, the culmination of the thing
I wrote up like for, I think for a long time, maybe even still my top thread I ever put out
from like an impressions perspective was on that doodles presentation. Julian did it just absolutely cooked. And you know,
I took pictures of slides and I put it out there.
Like that was my top thread for a while.
So it's like to see the culmination of that a few years,
a couple of years later and be like, well, fuck, like miss that one.
Like that's what I thought was the coolest thing is you hear Austin talking
about it in the team. Like many of them, like this is,
this is the moment that they've been working towards for a couple of years. And that's pretty cool. Whether you're a doodles holder,
whether you're in the community or not, you got to love when a team works on something for years
and it's so well received at launch. Yeah, no, it's, it's, you know,
shout out to them. So congrats on that. Um, you'd love to see that, uh, you know,
kind of things come to fruition for all of Web3.
So, and just, again, cool to see the way you can participate,
where you can be part of the story by buying, sort of,
or part of the story by participating.
It, like, lets you earn by being a true community member.
And I think that they're just doing things on such a higher level
than almost every single community out there,
like, respectfully to everybody out there building stuff.
So just really, really impressive.
But I saw Mackie fly up, saw his hand jump up.
I have a couple other items, but I know we have a...
Chimbers coming up in a half hour, but I want to get to Mackie.
Because, I mean, look, I don't have a ton on my list this morning.
Like I said, I got the Punchy Penguin Soulbound I'd love to hit on.
Monty Token if we want to go there, but relatively light list. Mac EGM.
Good morning, Steve. Good morning, Cap. I want to go back to the meme coin talk.
If we travel back to 2021 NFT bull run time, I felt so much FOMO,
not trading NFTs.
And I still feel a little bit of FOMO,
not trading memes.
I'm trading at a much smaller amount.
Basically I have like a,
effectively a budget.
I'm doing quotation fingers when I say budget,
budget that limits
how much I can actually put into this because I lost
a lot of money in NFTs
I round tripped a lot of stuff
and if I would have just stayed in ETH
which is already a hugely risky asset
like right
I would be up
and it's just it is so frustrating
that people think that just because you don't
trade meme
coins you're not part of the culture and sure it exposes you to the weird and occasionally dark
corners of our space but like i'm just i don't know i don't know where i'm going with this other
than just trade safe folks don't trade you're already in crypto it's risky enough like don't trade. You're already in crypto. It's risky enough. Like, don't feel the pressure
to push you into the trenches. Don't fall for it. You don't need to. You don't need to. I promise.
Sure, it's interesting. And yes, you could catch something that's a big win. But
I've been doing this again for like three months. I ain't caught shit. So maybe I'm just bad. It
could be a skill issue. Yeah, it's hard because it needs to be like a
full-time job and you need to be certain chats and there's all these things that like I just
don't have time to dig in through so at least for me personally it's not like I said I booked my win
on Machi like glad I did it um you know I ended up basically turning into a 2x more or less like
a little bit less than a 2x I sold the rest this morning so it's like you know got I ended up basically turning into a two X more or less, like a little bit less than a two X. I sold the rest this morning. So it's like, you know, got my money back, sat with the rest
and then sold it for nearly a two X and called it a day. And it's now sitting in blast, getting
native yield, grabbing me points. I'll probably pull a little bit off there at some point, but
it's just, it's not for me. And I think like your point about like, I mean, I think we all,
at least I speak for myself,
I certainly round tripped a ton of stuff back in the day. Right. I mean, that's something that I've,
I've been, um, you know, I've been certainly, uh, guilty of like, and, and I don't get upset about
like the ape or like the doodle or, you know, some of the ones that I talk about that I'm like,
I use these, I like these, I'm not going to be upset about my, I'm not going to be
upset about my, my sort of like activity on those. It's like, I always use this as an example. I'm
not trying to knock them when I say it, I'm sure people get sick of hearing it, but it's like,
you know, the gutter cat, like I, I, that went to like 10 ETH and I wasn't that participatory
in the community. And it was never really like, I don't give off gutter cat vibes, even though I like
hanging out with people in the community. And I thought they were great. And sure enough,
that was one that just absolutely eventually dipped. And I bought it at like two East,
saw it shoot up and be felt like really good about it is one of my biggest purchases to this day,
buying something for two East, you know, saw it fire up, go past 10 East, felt like I was a genius.
It was like, this thing's going to be the next one.
We're betting on it, like doing like what Bored Apes did at some point. And then ended up selling
it at one ETH when ETH was worth less money. And it's like, I did that with many NFTs. And like,
I just, my, I said to people before my part of my goal in this market, I'm not going to be the guy
that is not taking profits. I'm going to take profits at various times. I'm
not going to feel guilty about it. It doesn't mean that I don't like what people have or what
they sell. It's like, like with the Machi token last cycle, I would have just held all of it.
And I would have just watched it keep going. And I'd be like, Oh, it's down, but that's okay.
This time it opened immediately sold half. Cause it was at a two X, um, tried to sell a little bit
more, but that didn't work. Went, uh, cause I had to be out of pocket yesterday for a little bit.
And so I was, you know, I was away from the computer and my phone largely for a few hours
and came back, sold that second amount that I said.
And this morning I sold the rest.
Not going to look in the rear view mirror.
I'm going to look in the windshield and say, I got the win.
Congratulations.
Like nobody ever got hurt taking a profit.
And so we win from there.
So for me to like, I just want to take the learning and move it on to the next, move the needle forward on it.
So I don't know.
Let me tell you a sad story real quick.
I just sold one of my invisible friends that I minted and round tripped for less than what I minted it for.
It makes you feel better.
I actually, I can't make this up.
This is a true story.
One of my orders yesterday that I shipped out,
one of my board shorters,
which by the way are finally landing.
Shout out to Dort and Bunch
who grabbed some shots of their orders
that landed yesterday.
One of the orders yesterday,
I included an Invisible Friends hoodie.
And like, if it makes you feel better, Mackie,
I think I spent $500 on two hoodie bundles.
And I didn't even get to mint.
I didn't get to mint.
I spent $500 for the privilege of buying a couple of hoodie bundles
just for a raffle for an attempt to mint.
That's how crazy the NFT mania was.
We were dropping hundreds of
dollars on merch that i've never worn but i did so just for the chance to get a whitelist mint like
the things we were doing back then were absolute and then we would probably pay like 800 in gas
to mint the thing like it was just absolutely silly steve i think think Mackie summed up my feelings about meme coins. And like,
even knowing I knew about the Machi token, I went to the pre-sale site, I got an error,
I got a glitch, it didn't work. So I didn't, I didn't participate in the pre-sale. I knew about
it. I knew it would probably be a positive trade. I didn't do it. I was, you know, apathetic to going back and taking any action to
actually solve out the tech issue. And I don't care. Like I have zero FOMO despite knowing that,
oh, I just, I did, I just passed on actually an easy two X and I don't care. Like I just, it's,
it's completely become just not my journey and I'm fine with that.
Yeah. Like people have different ways that they approach the space and approach
this world.
And it's funny.
You talk about the crazy merch.
I'm sitting here staring at bags of medium sized mutant eight merch.
One from that collaboration they did with like the almost like creepy 1940
style skulls that were like old steamboat Mickey art.
I forget what that was,
but all of those,
I actually had that jacket.
I gave it to tivo um i
mean that's actually like a real collaboration not my journey like i actually pass on that one
because i don't i don't jam with that style but that's actually like mcbess is a real brand like
that's actually a real collaboration they did that you know holds up way better than you know
five hundred dollars for a couple of merch bundles that are, are like not worth the cost of shipping today.
Yeah.
So, so I don't know.
Like it's just, it's, yeah, the McBeth one, I, I tried on the jacket and I was like, I
want to be a jean jacket guy.
At least the moment doesn't seem a jean jacket guy.
Tebow seems like he could pull off much more.
Tebow's a fucking jean jacket, jean jacket guy.
And in his hay, he had a, he had a little bit of a Tom Brady look to him.
So he's doing just fine.
So I ended up, I ended up giving that to him. I don't think I've ever told that before, but I ended up just being like, fuck it. I've got this thing. I'll just Brady look to him. So he's doing just fine. Um, so I, I ended up, uh, I ended up giving that to him. Uh, I don't think I've ever told that before, but I ended up just being like,
fuck it. I've got this thing. I'll just give it to him. And then, cause he was trying to buy it
for me. And then I have a bunch of merch, a mutant merchant on the floor, which will probably be the,
I'll use it for giveaways at some point. I don't know. Like people should, you know what you should
do for welcome apes. I'll, I'll do that. And I'll go to Poppy. I'll say this should be, this is my suggestion for Welcome Apes.
Do a collection where ThankApe sponsors,
ThankApe or someone should sponsor,
they should sponsor buying this stuff.
A merch buyback.
Yep, a merch buyback.
Buyback merch that other people in the community no longer want,
and then use that to give away to Welcome Apes.
I love it.
Yeah, that's a brilliant idea.
At a small percentage in Ape, because it was sold in ApeCoin way back in the day a lot of it and so god knows how much i spent
on it when you look to win ape coin moon but like you know basically that mcbess hoodie was 72 000
that mcbess uh jacket 72 grand i think so yeah yeah it's yeah it was it was the price of like
two board apes but i would i would say like if Welcome Apes is like a buyback that puts in a thing for a buyback,
you get your merch. When the merch
is received with certain information,
you transfer the Apes to the wallet. It's going to
be like maybe 30%.
It's like 30%
of what the actual
price is or retail. I don't know.
Do it at some discount and then
have Think Ape cover the shipping and
you ship the merch to new Apes from Welcome Ape, whether it's Mutant or BoredApe or whatever, and have different prices for different things, have certain limits on it.
And then I bet you a lot of people will come out of the woodwork, buy it, grab it.
A lot of people will take the ape coin and then everybody wins.
Because like I'm probably going to use this for giveaways at some point because it's still literally fully in the bags.
I just bought a bunch of shit and they got here and I was like, I'm not going to wear any of this.
I should have sold this A for like $25.
But, um, Poppy, GM, feel free to take us any direction you want them.
We'll go pudgy in a minute.
GM, guys.
Yeah, you know, I figured what great timing.
It's been a crazy summer and I haven't been able to get on the show too much.
But the day I get on.
Guy has a kid and thinks he can start sleeping in or something.
Oh, dude.
What a lifestyle change, you know?
I think it's impossible to be a DJ when you're a kid.
People will try.
They'll fail.
It's one or the other.
But I get on the show and we're talking about round trips.
This one was for me?
Was this show for me?
So I'm the, I probably round tripped way too much.
You know, it was like two weeks ago.
I was looking at apes and I'm like, dude, there's some good opportunity.
You know, there's some really nice ones, very close to the floor and flippable territory.
So I just go on this heater of like
seven days. I think I've made probably 10 ETH. And then I was talking with my buddies and he's like,
he's like, dude, you're so excited. And I was like, because I've been losing ETH for two years,
flipping apes. Um, it felt good. It felt good to, good to to do something you know get a little something back
but um so there's the my round trip story but yeah in terms of meme stuff i mean i i remember being
on the show probably six months ago we were talking like is it meme coin season meme coin
season's about to kick up and all this stuff i think it probably lasted a little bit too long um i've heard some pretty
serious like horror stories uh yesterday i was talking to one of my friends he had a
really nice bag probably worth six figures of nfts put them on loans to do meme coins and
to do meme coins and is down almost 200 now total lost all his stuff couldn't pay back the loans um
and i i've that's that's probably the most extreme one but i get stories like that you know guys that
sold quirks or other things to go do you know meme coins or whatever and it just would have been
better off sticking to eth like baki said or um sticking to their nfts it's i don't know i feel
i feel much better when the season is over so um i know it's fun like yeah everybody's out chasing
the big dub um but but there's so much of that mentality like most meme coins are created just
for that run and that adrenaline that pump which means that the intention for most people is to
to get a two three four x if you have people that are in it for 10x but you have people that are in
it for 2x the 2xers are taking it and the 10xers are usually left holding the bag, waiting for that 10 X.
So it's been a really interesting time,
but I'm glad to see the strength and kind of,
I'll call it the attention going.
So like copy,
am I,
can I ask a question then real quick on that?
Cause like you said something there that,
cause I'm,
I'm so ignorant on the meme coin streets.
It's like,
I get fucking made fun of when i'm dropping and
selling on my 2x by people because like i still like i'll give you an example like the ones that
i've got you gotta have one of the two strategies right like that's the only way you can play this
game is you take the 2x to 2 3x and you and you move on or you hold for that 10x 100x 1000x
knowing that 90 percent of them are going to go to zero but you get lucky and the one goes to you
know 100 million or a billion dollar cap, that's how you win.
But most lose at that.
That's a loser's game.
You're not going to bat 200.
You're way below the Mendoza line.
You have to talk about bankroll management
and make sure that you're not –
you can never go all-in on any of those plays
because most of them are going to lose.
And you've got to be okay with that.
Or you just, you book the two X's.
Right.
Yeah.
I think just to double tap that, look, I bet if you ran a case study of, and this is for
someone way smarter than me, a data guy or girl.
So if you ran numbers on meme coins that 2x versus even 3 versus 5 versus 10, right?
Even if you just ran three or four different metrics, even project tokens, stuff like that.
I mean, any token doesn't even have to be a meme coin.
If you run numbers on stuff that 2x, 3x, 5, and 10,
and if you had even more dynamic numbers, great. I think you'd be surprised that my guess would be,
and this is subjective, but my guess would be most of them stall right after the 2x mark,
right after the 2x mark, then a decent percent might get to a 3x. And I think very, very, very
few get to, you know, the bigger numbers. Now, of course, we're not talking about,
you know, when the coin drops, and then at 10x is, I mean, that's probably one buy.
But from, you know, like a common buying place where maybe public pours in, are you getting, is the average person getting any more than, you know, a 2 or 3x?
I think a great strategy would be to be in every coin, spread across the board, and pull out a 2x.
I think that's probably the only, like, winning strategy if you were to do it across a thousand meme coins, let's say.
So I don't think it's a stupid thing i actually think it's smart my mentor who's a 30 plus year
trader he i found him when i was dead broke about 10 years ago and um took me and a group of friends
under his wing and we helped him in return build up the company that's still doing very well today um
he told me something in the very beginning because i had a i was learning how to trade forex foreign
exchange in the beginning and um i i remember like one of my trades i it was like gbp usd and i was
i was in a buy as i just remember like the the letters are blue if you're buying they're red if
you're selling right and so I was gonna buy and I think I was up a significant amount and I asked
him I'm like what should I do now you know like it's my first winning one of my first winning
trades you don't know what to do right I think this is very relative to trading meme coins as
well um you're like what do I do and he's like well you need to start booking
partials as he said you can never go broke taking profits and i for some reason out of many many
lessons in my life that that always rings true to me it's like you can never go broke taking profits
um which is also why i normally like on the nft side why i normally
have one or two or three of a project or not just one but multiple of a project that i that i want
to be a part of because you know you have two or three you don't feel so guilty about selling on
momentum or booking up a little bit of a win. So I think in terms of meme coins,
that discipline isn't there because people marry them.
And it's harder to marry that, in my opinion,
because you could just click a button
and exit your entire position.
Whereas NFTs, they're more collectibles.
You know, people sell typically a lot more strategically
unless they're farming for a token that's worth nothing.
So I think, yeah, that just summarizes, Steve, like, I don't think it's a bad thing. I think
it's a smart thing. And yeah, maybe it moons, you know, maybe you missed the five to 10 X,
but I think more times than not, you're going to book the two to three X and you'll be happy
with the decision in 30 to 60 days. No, that's, that's the way I do it, man. That's, that's usually my go-to.
My go-to is like, I want to sell the two acts. And it's funny, like a couple of years ago,
I would have been more pissed or I would have been more like, Oh man, these people are telling
me I shouldn't be selling. But nowadays I'm like, fuck it. Like my strategy, generally speaking,
is like, if a two acts, I get my money back at least sometimes I sell more. And then from then it's like, uh, if a two X's again, like, I mean that, that get rich
Nick coin that cooked for a while, I sold a two X, sold a two X, sold a two X. I sold
two X like five times. I cost myself like a 40 X or something, but I did it in my comfort
level. And I, um, you know, it's not, it's not easy. Um, it's just a different world,
but it's not my world to operate in.
I just don't play meme coins.
Mechie, get in here, then I want to hit
Austin just to get his thoughts on the weekend
because he had quite the weekend.
And then we will, we got to do
Harpy Hack of the Week before we get into
our guest in a little bit here and try to
hit Pudgy Penguin's Soulbound Token if we can.
We're never going to hit Pudgy
Soulbound Tokens for the record. But I did want if we can. We're never going to hit Pudgy Soulbound tokens for the record.
But I did want to say that, yes, I was going to let Austin go in first
because he did have a hell of a weekend.
Instead, I'm going to say this fun little tidbit that I discovered.
So, Steve, what the meme coin trenches slash streets will call you is a jeet,
which apparently is slang for an indian person
uh but also in hindi means victory uh so you win you win all right i'm a proud jeep um
you're basically derrick jeter yeah i i yeah derrick jeter call me derrick jeter because i'm
sending those meme coins into the into the ether as i make my profits. Austin, I want to kick it over to you because you had quite the weekend, brought your parents. That was very cool to see to the premiere. We're seeing it all over the timeline. Doodles are cooking. People feeling good about the premiere. Tell us a little bit about the premiere from your eyes and kind of what you felt that over, because it's got to be the culmination of a lot of work. I've been lucky
enough to see a little bit of the behind the scenes at times. And, you know, this is sort of
the culmination of your work. Plus, you know, the, you know, seeing the community come out and not
just get respected and kind of, you know, put on a pedestal and walk that sort of, you know, pink
carpet, but seeing the community sort of be supported, you know, have people be in the movie, like tell me sort of your takeaways
and maybe some things, maybe some people aren't thinking about that you're seeing from the weekend.
GM, GM, thank you for having me, Steve. You were, you were missed, uh, but get that things come up.
We'll have to get you to the next film premiere. Um, yeah mean, it was the culmination of, I think,
what a lot of people in the community were hoping to see
when they first got into the project,
like what seemed like a crazy pipe dream
when it was just an NFT collection has now come to fruition.
And it takes a lot of self-talk and motivation
and clear determination and staying on mission
time and time again when the market may move on
and people are focused on other things.
We stayed down with the community and made this a reality.
And I think the message all weekend was to try to stay present,
try to stay in the moment.
I think it's really easy to look forward of all the work
that we still have to do.
Obviously, we're not satisfied with just putting out a film premiere.
We have much bigger aspirations,
but I had several moments with different team members, just
making sure that they could just take a moment and appreciate how crazy a journey this has been
for us about to be approaching three years as a company and to now be premiering a film
in front of the biggest industry titans in the world is something that's an achievement and
definitely wanted to to stay present in it I was really grateful to be able to bring my parents
and actually show them what I do because it could be a little hard to explain as I'm sure anyone
who's tried to explain web3 to their normie friends uh or or significant others or parents has done uh so
it was really special for for me to have them there and uh have so many members of the community
like come up and introduce themselves and it was it was a really really cool moment and
yeah i think for like in terms of what it was like on the ground it really was the community being hand in hand with industry executives,
artists, like on the same floor. It was having them directly be a part of our biggest moment
to actually be a part of the film itself. I strategically lined myself up behind some
community members that I knew would be in the film that didn't necessarily know when the moments would be dropping, just so that I could see their reactions.
And that certainly did not disappoint.
And it's something that's going to stick with me for a very long time.
But I was telling everyone, because obviously there are some nerves going into it, but we
had the biggest home field advantage
that you could imagine, right?
Like having our entire,
like so many members of our community
there at the film screening,
like that's not typically how like these things go.
They're usually in like very stilted rooms
of executives like sitting
and then maybe there's like a pause at the end.
Whereas like we had our community members like jumping and shouting and hollering's like a pause at the end whereas like we had our community
members like jumping and shouting and hollering at like all of the big moments uh and it really
that the energy was kinetic i mean to the point that like pharrell even you know talked to julian
and was like this is the lightning in the bottle like this is like that you have such a strong
community that's going to bat for you like no no one else has this, no new IP, no, no existing IP.
Like it is so, so rare and special. And he, in his words were, you know,
you guys are the next Taylor Swift and you don't even know it yet. Like that's,
that's the level of like fandom and community that we, that we have here.
And to cultivate that is like the number one, number one priority. So yeah,
it was really special. Julian was supposed
to come back to Miami on Sunday because he's got to go to LA for another event later this week.
He stayed in Toronto because there was so much follow-up to do. And we've had some really great
and productive meetings with a lot of executives that were there. So this is everything that we were hoping for,
and it feels like it's closing the end of the first chapter, if you will,
and going to be opening up the start of a much bigger and better second one.
It's cool to watch the machine work together.
It is, and I don't mean that in a big, monolithic way,
but it's cool to watch.
I know how hard the ENG team works.
I know how hard you work.
I know how hard Kat and team are working. And then you see like PR getting to
work and you're seeing the stories come out and you're seeing all these different things that,
you know, come to fruition that don't just accidentally happen. And, you know, one of the
takeaways, which, you know, again, I've been meaning to, um, you know, again, I've been meaning
to like, kind of get the, uh, you know, get the, uh, the, the sort of a threat or something out
on, but I'm thinking how to do it is the discussion we had yesterday was it's like this model where it's like we made this
comparison it sort of clicked for us where it's like you know you buy the jordan rookie card
because it's sort of this rare rookie card and it's a cool opportunity and like when you when
you crack when you crack a bunch of um because we'd seen doodles grail sell and yesterday as
of yesterday we hadn't seen a big floor runner answer was like well we're seeing grail sell and
grails are in the movie so mellows in the movie in some variation
of mellow there's like 12 or 13 that exists in some variation of skelly there's like 14 that
exists so it's like the two ways you could find yourself in the ip you're creating is one you
find those super rare characters which make sense to feature and you could have some variation of
them and that's the sort of the pay up method.
We'll call it the Blondie method actually for now. So you could use the Blondie method and get in there. And obviously Blondie is a community member, but she's obviously a whale as well,
who has some great ones. Um, you know, we liked the Blondie, but it's like, she, you know, she
goes and she says, I'm going to get those grails. Those grails are important. And like, you know,
she has a mellow and mel's in the movie. The other way is like what you said, when you saw the
community members, which is, you know, when you have have a nez or roops or someone else who's participatory
and you want to find a way to show them love you bring them into this this property where they then
see themselves on screen effectively and i think it's a model we've never seen before where you
know occasionally you'd see a fan and there would be a cool story like once every 10 years of like, oh, a fan got to be an extra in a TV show
they were a fan of.
But like, this is quite literally,
and tell me if we're reading this wrong,
this is quite literally like,
you looked at your community,
you saw some community members who were participating,
you found places where they fit seamlessly into this film,
and then you inserted them into the film.
And it's like, you can participate,
be part of the community just by loving doodles.
And that can lead to things like this.
Not to say like results atypical,
don't try this at home,
but like not that people should expect it.
But it feels like a different type of fandom model
that we haven't seen before.
Are we reading this way wrong or does this feel good?
No, I think that's spot on.
I mean, participation has always been the alpha
showing up, being an active member of
the community.
We look for those individuals when we are looking at different placements or collaborations
or things to do together and how to support and not just in the content, but just overall
like developing their businesses, putting on events.
So like whether it's Deep Hangster with Get Toasty and trying to like
highlight him in the product to what Doodless has been doing with Dude Ranch
and giving him a platform to like put on those events alongside all the Doodles
events. There's just, if you find,
like find your lane in the community and like we will find you and do our best to give you a platform and elevate you.
There's a space for everyone.
And it's been really exciting to see not just the OGs,
but so much new blood come into the community and raise their hand and want
to want to participate and find ways to be involved in this thing.
Like those are,
those are the people that we're looking for to prop up and know that they have
a home here.
It's very cool. And it's like, you talk about just getting started. The other thing about it
that I think is interesting, and I will, obviously we're not going to ask for alpha this morning and
we'll have you, you know, y'all are always welcome back on the show as we kind of talk through,
you know, all things doodles and kind of, you know, watch what happens. But it's like,
the other thing about like, think the brand and again tell
me if i'm playing this back wrong is like you talk about you know i see the end of the beginning a
lot for a lot of people and you know squint is the end of the beginning wait till you see what
the middle looks like it's like it feels like with doodles what y'all are doing is like not just like
hey we try to give this movie congrats we did it all right end of the project we're done everything's
good it's like you're not a project you're're a company, you're a brand. And like, there's still stuff to happen
for the rest. This wasn't like, this is the culmination. We're taking the next three months
off to fuck off to the beach. Like there's still a lot going on after this. It wasn't like this was
the culmination and that was that. And we've delivered. It's like, you now have more things
going in business plans that extend out years. And I just think it's so unique to this space, right? Like you're not thinking about like, like you mentioned
being present in the moment and enjoying that. Did you find it like, not hard, but like, at least
for me personally, so maybe I'm projecting, I'll like have those, those milestone moments where I'm
like, that was cool. My book came out next week. I'm like, shit, what do I need to do next? Are you
kind of like already like, do you at least take a moment to need to do next are you kind of like already like do you at
least take a moment to enjoy it or you focus on like what the next business you know like okay
we've got like five other things to execute on i mean i'm literally getting on a flight tomorrow
morning to go to ohio to meet with the product design and engineering guys because we've got like
some big uh some big things we need to to get fully uh built out through the end of this year. So, no, it was very much like I'm going to enjoy this moment in the moment.
And then the second I woke up, it was back to the grind.
And all of our, like, group chats as a team were flooded with, you know,
things to both enjoy and appreciate, but also, like, that we've got to keep moving.
uh, to, to both enjoy and appreciate, but also like that we've got to keep moving. We're,
I feel very fortunate that like, we spent a lot of time like really honing in on how to operate,
like as a business, how to operate with the community. Um, and now like, we're going to
be in a place where I think our shipping cadence will be second to none. Uh, we're not going away.
This isn't even the end of the
go-to-market for this film. We still have to premiere it on Doodles TV this Friday. Then it
has to go to YouTube. We still have a partnership as part of this go-to-market campaign. We still
have another music video. And then we've got some more surprises through the end of the year. So
it's only speeding up. It was really funny. Kat and I had a moment with our project manager,
Claire, who some of the community got to meet this weekend. It is absolutely a driving force
of a lot of what we are able to get done. And we were going through our content calendar
through basically June next year. It's a lot. And I think there was one moment,
she's like, oh, great. I don't see anything in February. I can maybe take a day off And I think there was like one moment, uh, she's like, Oh great. Like I don't
see anything in February. Like I can maybe take a day off. I was like, Oh no, that's a mistake.
Like, like, don't worry. We have, we have something like every month. So, uh, it's going
to be a lot of fun. If you're, if you're jumping on now, if you're finding, you know, that you want
to get interested in, in doodles, you know, talk to people of the community, go on the website, create an avatar,
buy some wearables and just start to start to get involved.
Cause it's only, it's only going to pick up.
And it's, it's a great time to be a doodle.
Love that. Well, look, congrats on an awesome weekend.
Really cool to see everything that's coming out in the timeline.
It's something that I think,
I don't understand how doodles continue to be like,
not that I wouldn't say the best kept secret NFTs,
people know who they are,
but you know,
people not realizing all the things that are being built in the fandom that's being created over there.
I know my family loves the brands.
my kids love the brand.
I love the brand.
Obviously Dawn loves the brand.
It's her PFP.
And it's just,
it's a very cool thing to see.
So congrats on everything y'all accomplished.
Try to get some rest and enjoy the victory.
And then, you know, onto the next,
because obviously job's not finished.
We appreciate you.
Let's, let's do this cap.
Let's, I want to hit the pudgy soul bound,
but let's do harpy hack of the week.
Then we're going to hit pudgy soul bound for five to seven minutes.
Then we'll do, I told chimbers between nine and nine 15. So we'll, we'll go no later than nine 15,
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That's harpy.io, H-A-R-P-I-E.io. Cap, we had that one coming from Harpy in real time
about yesterday, day before. And it was one of those ones where you just got to be careful out
there, man. It scares me because I'm like, do I have old screenshots somewhere on my phone from when I was new in web three? So now I'm searching my phone the same way
this sort of, um, uh, the same way this malware would through my photos, trying to see if I can
find those images. And yeah, I, it's just, it's something that I need to be more conscious of
for myself. Cause I write things down and I haven't stored in, you know, areas in multiple
places and you can be so safe, but you know know this is one of those ones that scares you because it's like if someone gets in your phone
you realize how quickly you give those permissions so uh harpy hack of the week but I'll throw it to
you cap and then maybe I don't know if you want to take us into pudgy soulbound for about
five to seven minutes because I know Husker's been waiting on that one yeah we can hit on it
real quick I don't have much else to add but I'm happy to get Husker's uh thoughts on it the other
like in world news piece that I'll add,
I pinned up a post up top from Mando.
The SEC has made
$4.68 billion
from crypto
firms this year.
It's the large majority of their
income. Now, I don't know what the budget
for the SEC looks like,
but I got to imagine
that it's not
too much greater than
$4.6 billion. Essentially,
the TLDR is, crypto
is essentially funding the SEC,
it appears.
Nice. Harpy, get in here. I saw your hand go up.
Hello, hello.
Me behind the Harpy handle.
I just wanted to add, too,
about seed phrases phrases your photos thing
um the big obviously on android malware but like the the importance of making sure the
phrases aren't on any photos like whether that's on dropbox or on your google drive because again
like retroactively um a lot of that photo content is being updated and tagged
and like run through useful AI platforms
to help make it easier for you to find your own photos.
But that same exact technology
also does make it very easy to distinguish
what is a seed phrase.
So like not only your own phone pictures,
but like anything on your Google Drive,
honestly, like anything sitting in your email too, because like, as we use AI to go backwards and aggregate all the data
that we do have available, um, all those little vulnerabilities are going to become more and more
prevalent. So just adding that. And I'm terrified if you're going to token 2049, um, I'll post our,
uh, brunch event with boys club, but, um But yeah, make sure you guys don't have your seed
phrases in any of your old folders. Great, great, great advice. And Steve,
I think it's like some of this 101 onboarding stuff, we can't forget about it. It was one of
the things that did stick with me early on that shout out to, it was probably Bunch and Chamber,
and I can't believe I'm doing this, but I probably got to give a little bit of credit
to the Bankless Boys. It was one of the things that early on got etched in my brain, so much so that
when I was attempting to onboard my friends into the space, one of the first things I would tell
them is, don't take a picture. Don't save your seed phrase anywhere electronically. Only write
it down. And this AI stuff is only going to get better and better and better. And if you
ever have a picture of your seed-braced stores in any of these cloud services, all it takes is
one exploit, one hack of those services, and you're likely to get drained. This AI tech is
advancing it. If they get a hack, consider your wallet drained. I feel that's where we're heading to is a nefarious actor, if they get access to
any of your clouds, if your seed phrase is in there, they're going to get it.
Yeah, it's terrifying. It's something that
absolutely is something that I need to go back and just do a double check
because I don't think I have anything, but I know back in the day before and early on
I was sort of you know i was i
was you just didn't know any better you're like oh this is a prudent move to make sure i don't
lose this and then you realize later on no that's the worst possible thing you can do so i'll be
paying attention to that um i do want to hit pudgy soulbound we'll get chimpers up here uh insight
and uh get get insight and uh up here uh for sure but in the next, I'd say, like, let's spend five minutes on Pudgy Soulbound,
five to ten, and then...
Just real quick, hot off the press, actually,
speaking of in-real-life friends,
my brother actually just informed me
that, I don't know if you've seen this,
but our guy, Drew the Barman,
is gifting those master-to-sealer tokens
shares in his business venture.
Currently, those shares are valued at about $1K,
plus a pair of shoes,
to which my brother says this is the most Web3 thing ever.
You get about $1,000 worth of equity in his distillery business
and a pair of shoes.
No idea what the shoes look like or what they are,
but yeah, we should probably get our guy, Drew the Barman, back on here for an update at some point in the future yeah we should do that i
need to follow up with him i've seen some announcements in the discord and then i'm like
i'm gonna follow up on that and then i don't make a note and i forget about it until i see another
announcement so i gotta get on that because i definitely have those tokens and need to go and
get my equity and more importantly my shoes because i love a good pair of uh i love some good uh
some good merch but let's let's hitgy's Soulbound real quick on that.
Yeah, again, for people who missed, I just think it's a cool thing.
Pudgy's gave a Soulbound token to someone who's held for 1,000 days.
You talk about loyalty and people who are maybe at that 700 days
who are more likely to hold for another year probably makes sense
because when you think about how they're going to reward people,
whether it's through token or other utility,
this is a very logical thing that if I were running an NFT brand, I would copy because
it's like your reward, it's a way to, you want to find your loyalist holders with the blockchain.
I know if you can combine wallets and figure that thing out, because like I said, hot wall
to cold wall for various things early on, like, but if you can give someone like, Hey,
these are my two wallets, it's bounced around, It hasn't sold. It feels like a smart move that you can reward in a lot of ways. And it's pretty
easy to program against and being soul bound. It shows the type of person you are. And besides
that, I think of, you know, I guess my commentary is like, if you're talking to like, whether it's
an investor or, you know, a partner to work with them and you're like, Hey, what type of customer
are you looking for? Well,
you want the most loyal customer, right? You want someone who's going to stay with your brand,
who's going to use it, who's going to get excited about it. I think if you see someone who has a
thousand days holding their pudgy penguin, shows a pretty loyal customer, which I think is also a
good sort of, you know, partnership push for them. So it's a lot of, a lot of goodness there,
but Husker, I want to, I know you want to hit on it yesterday. So let me kick it over to you to get
any thoughts in that you want to get in and then we'll kind of keep, keep going
from there. Yeah. Thanks guys. And good morning, by the way. So just one thing that I want to bring
up is the fact that if you have like moved your token around, there was actually a form to fill
out. I just reposted it not too long ago. So I'd highly recommend everyone go and check that out.
If you've held for a thousand days, but you maybe split it. I know I sent a couple of my penguins
like vault wallets and stuff like that just to maintain security especially just
to clean stuff up quite honestly and then you just got to remember too that we've been doing this now
for a long time kind of talked about it yesterday in terms of the first token was actually released
back in 2022 uh so absolutely try to like stack those uh sbts if you can just because especially with the abstract, you never know when they're going to drop a token.
And then also the other thing that they're doing is if you've held that for a thousand days, there's actually another form for you to fill out inside that initial thread where they ask you, like, hey, is there a significant date, like a birthday or an anniversary?
That kind of opens up the possibility for them to maybe send out some merch or some other like kind of just things
to thank you for being a long-term holder.
So some things that people might not be tracking,
but definitely some perks
coming to long-term budget holders.
You see, to me,
this is exactly what NFTs are supposed to be.
I love this because this is exactly
what NFTs are supposed to be to me.
It's, you know,
it's the idea that you can ultimately take something with a, you know, a soulbound token like this that says, hey,
this person's a holder. They've been a long-term holder. They've stacked several soulbound tokens
or like at least, you know, one soulbound token. And they can say, you know what, like we, you
know, we're looking at you and saying that we know that you care about us. Like the birthday thing, it's brilliant.
Like, that's the idea.
It's like, you know, I talk about artists all the time.
It's like Mr. Beast, Taylor Swift, you know, like these, all these brands, they can't tell
you who their number one fans are.
They can't.
If they wanted to, they couldn't.
But you're able through Pudgy to say, no, no, no, this is a data non-fakeable thing that
you have had this thing
for over three or no, three years, not over three years. We've had this thing for almost three years,
a thousand days. Like that feels like a pretty significant number. Congrats. Like we want to
reward you. And so to me, this is how you do web three, right? Personally, like this is a
very smart execution by Pudgy Penguins. And again, if I were advising other projects,
I would say do something like this for people who are your sort of like OGs
because this is how you reward them.
And obviously we have to see what they do with it.
This is assuming they do something with it,
but I don't think Luke is doing this for nothing.
So I think it's a smart play.
And if I were, again, if I were an NFT project,
I would be considering doing this for OG holders because it just shows, again, the data on loyalty
and then do they redeem it? Because again, you might get one of these, the wall is kind of static
and someone doesn't fill it out. But if people are redeeming things and you can slowly build this up,
and then if you make the sort of motivation good enough for people, well, then people are going to
want to hold even longer. So I think it's smart.
Again, I'd love to see like Bored Apes do this and some other projects as well,
but I think it's very, very cool.
Cap, any thoughts on that?
Oh, go ahead, Cap.
I was just going to say, if you haven't yet,
get your OG badge from OtherPage.
As opposed to doing it natively themselves,
they've leaned into OtherPage.
That's my, we haven't had an official announcement
or communication,
but my read is that BoardApeYachtClub and Yuga Corporate is not going down
this path per se outside of their, you know, the PO apps you can claim for
attending the board meetings and the ApeFest, et cetera.
But I think on the badges and more like the Soulbound token front,
they don't want to step on other pages' toes and are allowing them to build out that collector profile.
And you can collect a...
It's a good question.
Actually, I don't believe it's soulbound,
but you certainly can get your OG badge via other page.
Yeah.
So I think it's just, again, to me, that's the alpha
is thinking about that in kind of a a smart meaningful way so i i find
uh i find that yeah pretty pretty awesome uh again good job uh good on the um you know good on on
luca for thinking of this and again if i were if i were thinking long and hard about this i would
most definitely be doing this if i am a uh if i am a pudgy holder i would grab my badge and if i
were other projects i'd be doing this.
But look, that said, let's swing over to our guests here a little bit.
It's really cool.
It's good that they've done Soul Bounds before as well.
And I think that Soul Bound, we talked about Soul Bound on our The More You Know yesterday.
I think it is a very useful tool to say not everything is meant to be bought, sold, and traded.
And some things are just there for credential purposes or other purposes that maybe don't need to be sold.
But I'm really excited to actually pivot over to our guests.
So, you know, Chimpers is a, you know, it's one of those ones, I mentioned it earlier.
I have seen Chimpers on the timeline for a long time.
I have DMed with Insight.
I have seen, you know, all the Chimpifications that are going on,
and I've almost been embarrassed because I haven't dug as deep into what Chimpers is doing as I
should. And it's almost at the point where it's like, you have the DM, you think about it,
I'm going to dig into this, then tomorrow comes and you forget about it and you don't. And it's
like one that just seemingly continues to build and continues to bring things out.
Insight, GM, welcome to the show.
To start off with this thing,
because I think I heard from some of our audiences
we were talking about this
that a lot of them weren't as familiar as well.
But before we get to the sort of what Chimbers is doing now,
before we get to sort of the Boring Ape Chronicles
and sort of what that evolved into
and being Gargis' favorite artist
and Gordon, working with Gordon on the cover of the Rolling Stone and all that good stuff.
I want to talk about the before the before. I want to talk about the YouTube channel and Twitch
and all that stuff. So do you mind giving us a background of yourself,
uh, Timpers, and then, you know, the before you were in this world?
Yeah, no, absolutely. Um, it's It's great to finally be up and appreciate you guys
giving us the chance to chat about all things Chimpers. But yeah, I think Timpers is the one
who has the interesting story, not me. I'm just the twin brother who has kind of tagged along and
been strung along the way. But no, he started way back before Web3, obviously,
in kind of YouTube content creation.
And one of the things that he's always done is create art.
And whether that is through gaming, whether that's through streaming,
he wanted to kind of build up his content creation skills.
And that led him to creating a YouTube channel where he was creating banners
and tutorials for people who want to create content,
teaching them how to do that in an easy to digest way.
And that kind of led him to grow in this YouTube channel, teaching them pixel art
and all things kind of content to 40,000 subscribers for a few years.
And by doing that, he was able to kind of navigate this YouTube realm,
working with top YouTubers and streamers like Pokimane or Tfue, DanTDM,
big gamers, big streamers that all kind of worked with him to get streaming packages
and different kind of art designs.
And yeah, by that time, he was very much, I think, kind of cemented with the community.
Obviously, community building was a big part of that journey, not just the creation of art.
And he built this great following and that led him to working towards joining the
FaZe clan. I'm sure many people know about FaZe. They have a, they did have, I'm not sure if it's
still ongoing, but a fun series called FaZe 5 where you could participate, join to become a potential
recruit of FaZe and you know he went on this journey got to the top 100 of that series and had almost kind of
joined FaZe made you know a big name for himself on Twitter at the same time and yeah around that
time in 2021 all of those things had come together and he was you know kind of disappointed with the
way it turned out he was really set on joining that kind of YouTube community, despite continuing his own kind of content creation. And around 2021,
he stumbled across NFTs, almost like a destined calling, really, as that journey kind of one door
closed, another one opened. And yeah, he stumbled acrossfts on the timeline on twitter and yeah all
things kind of progressed from there and um for myself you know i've always been invested in what
timpus is doing we're obviously twin brothers and whether that's the youtube series the streaming
um you know back in those years i was always there supporting following on the sidelines
and um you know when he did join the nft space we had both just graduated from university
and um i was on you know set on my kind of graduate career um at the same time looking
at what he was doing like what what the hell is going on with nfts timpers is just you know creating art
he's just sold an artwork in an auction on foundation for two weeks and you know this is
you know completely bamboozling to him and i and you know i set up a twitter page as well
to you know continue supporting what he was doing and um thought I'd use my English language degree to some use,
create a newsletter on Substack and start writing about NFTs. And I was able to grow my account
early in the 2021 kind of frenzy of, you know, total, you know, growth of accounts and people
trying to interact with NFTs. And yeah, that kind of both led us into,
you know, community building and just Web3 in general, really.
That's awesome. So you said real quick, before we get into the, you know, the journey into NFTs
that you both took, you said you were, you know, looking at this graduate career, this degree,
you mentioned English degree. What was your plan if you didn't get involved in NFTs? Like what was your, what was your goal?
Sure. Yeah. So I was applying for, um, kind of copywriting roles, marketing, those sorts of,
um, things. So as soon as we graduated from university, I was actually working in a restaurant, building up my portfolio and really trying to get some experience.
And, you know, the Web3 side of things was never the intention of kind of supporting Timpers, creating, you know, some, you know, experience
through writing and building out this kind of passion sort of newsletter. And yeah, for me,
it was always just to go into that kind of, you know, real world job when we had graduated and
it was never really to go ahead with Tim timpers it was only you know during 2021 when
he had you know kicked off the board and it chronicles that that kind of was presented as
an opportunity and um yeah for me it you know it could have been completely different yeah talk
about the board eight chronicles and the journey that that took y'all on, because I think that was the interesting part is that, you know, I don't know if you're aware of this, Cap, but sort of Bored Ape origins before Timpers, including both of us have a original Timpers in our household.
But before Timpers existed, it was Bored Ape Chronicles and into the Bored Ape community.
Talk about what that journey is and sort of where that led you
and ultimately getting you some love from the founders.
Yeah, no, it was definitely a really important one.
And Tim has started his sort of Web3 journey as just an artist,
but naturally he wanted to, you know, community build.
And it's quite hard to do that with you know one of ones and you know
just standalone art pieces um so he began joining different nft communities early on he joined you
know all of the the ones that kind of released in the early days whether it was like the wizards or
wicked craniums etc but the one that did mint and that he fell in love with was the Bored Apes
and he wanted to build his kind of web3 digital identity around that so alongside you know
becoming one of the the founders of founding artists of nouns and the the artwork that he
was doing he really wanted to kind of hone in on the
Bored Ape community side of things that's what he spent a lot of time doing and just hanging in the
discord connecting with the community and yeah it led to him creating a homage piece around the
Bored Apes he created a pixel art featuring different apes he asked them on the timeline
you know who wants to feature in one of my artworks and it got you know a huge amount of love and attention and um just from
there it kind of became natural to him that it had to be a bigger project and that's where it
evolved into the boring ape chronicles um which was yeah passion project, an artwork series that kind of blended storytelling and lore
with different community experiences. And it was a very tight-knit community of just 100 collectors.
So over the course of a year, we was able to create this artwork series, different chapters
of lore, taking these holders on a journey, bringing their rapes to life,
and having fun with just the gamification side of things, creating animated productions,
creating an e-book. And yeah, the kind of Bored Ape roots is definitely a big part of
the DNA and what kind of inspired us to continue creating onwards.
what kind of inspired us to continue creating onwards.
And then Garga named Timpers as his favorite artist somewhere, right?
And then he also designed the cover for the Rolling Stone that we all saw,
that big Rolling Stone, which I didn't know until recently.
Is that all true?
Yeah, he was lucky to get a lot of love from the Bored Apes at the time,
and still today, obviously.
But this was back in the day when the Bored Ape account was, you know, engaging with, you know, sorts of things like that.
And, yeah, you know, he got a lot of love from the founders, Gaga and Gordon.
And I remember, you know, one day, just a random day, he just put in our group chat that Gordon has just messaged him that he wants to feature on this exciting project, the Rolling Stone magazine.
You can't tell anyone about it. Rare, I believe, alongside all of the other artworks and artists that featured in that magazine.
And yeah, he had that really awesome opportunity.
And yeah, I think that's one of the things that kind of brought the love to Timpers in the first place was that kind of community experience and the closeness to the
team, the whole ecosystem really was giving him a lot of love. And it was just, I think,
a privilege for him to be able to work on all of those things. And yeah, it was definitely a really
exciting moment for him, I'm sure. So you have this in with this amazing community that is really obviously supporting.
The founders are loving y'all.
What made you want to say, you know what?
We want to get a 3D pixel art collection out there.
We've been doing pixel art with the board of storytelling.
We want to do our own thing.
We want to sort of jump from this nest of what we're doing here
within as community contributors, and we want to build out something
and just see if it lands.
What goes through your mind when you're thinking about something like that?
Because obviously things were going really well with the Bored Apes,
really well with the art, really well with the community.
So what makes you jump to do that?
Yeah, I think it was always just Timper's desire and passion to create.
And obviously with initially the Boreknit Chronicles and also, you know, some might be familiar with him working on the nouns as one of the artists there.
He had the opportunity to create some of the traits for the character collection there as well.
And both of those things were amazing and absolutely loved the journey of doing them.
But I think his sort of passion always led him to a desire of wanting to create a character IP for his own,
as opposed to, you know, doing it for something else.
And yeah, that's really what led to the birth of Jimpers it was always that
natural next step and evolution you know we we'd created this amazing community we've you know
created you know this awesome kind of foundation it was you know how can we create something that
you know is unique and his own IP?
And it took him a long time, obviously, after the series ended with the Boring Ape Chronicles,
that first artwork series, the lore kind of led us to a new door, a new portal to something new.
And he had been exploring different characters and for quite a long time, even through the duration of the series, it was always just something at the top of his mind. And I think it just kind of landed on, you know, timpers, what rhymes with timpers and it was chimpers.
So it had to be a primate. It had to be chimps.
And, yeah, I think he really wanted to do something again that builds on the pillars of
what we'd created with the series and it was art storytelling and all of those different things
that deeply resonated with the community that we'd built already and yeah always the goal to try and
create a character IP that can grow you know much bigger than the artwork series that was that original stepping stone.
Yeah. So talk about like, you talk about creating a character series.
So for those who maybe aren't familiar with getting a good history background,
which I always like to do with our audiences, because I know for me and a lot of other people,
there's so much to learn and keep up with around here that it's hard to do it all.
And so it's good, and I appreciate that.
So for those people who maybe aren't as familiar or don't know Chimpers in general, we have that background.
So now, let's say somebody hears this and they're like, all right, we got these twin brothers who are absolute chads coming out with their own collection after being super involved.
Can we double-
For a second, is there some secret that I'm not aware of that to be a, what is now becoming a world-renowned artist in Web3?
If you have a twin, your odds of that accomplishment are like 10x.
What is it with the twin artists in this space, Steve?
Burnt Toast, by the way, is the other one he's referring to we we actually met burnt toast
i had never met burnt toast in person it's it's like without question my my favorite most awkward
interaction with you of all time which there's not many awkward interactions with you most are just
you know you're like you're that social butterfly and things are just slow that was with that was
hands down the most awkward in real life interaction we've ever had yeah we had a moment
for people who don't know just to give caps background then we'll jump back to chimpers
basically we were at um doodle putt and i saw burnt toast and i went up and i was like yo man
like good to see you and he was like no i'm not actually burnt toast i'm his twin brother and i
was like ha ha ha no no no great
to finally meet you man this is pretty cool like you know like this whole thing you must be proud
it's awesome to see everything you put together he'd be like no really I am his twin brother I'm
like oh shit and I talked to him for a while and we had a good conversation we hung out he's a cool
dude I kind of picked up on it we left later I don't know if Cap had gotten help from one of his
favorite flowers or something,
but we walked away and Cap was just like, Cap still thought that it was burnt toast at one point when we had walked away. Probably 10 minutes later, or maybe it was later that night. He's like,
no, when we met burnt toast, I was like, no, that was his twin brother. He's like, oh, he was joking.
I was like, no, he was not joking. That was his twin brother. So he does indeed have the twin.
It was an easy one to sort of, but yeah have the twin it was a uh easy one to
sort of uh but yeah no it's it's a it's a weird coincidence apparently uh twin twins are uh twins
are not an anomaly in web 3 to be wildly successful but um yeah that that's right i forgot about that
cap that was that was a that was an interesting one um chimpers i do want to our chimpers inside
i do want to get back to you about chimperspers and get kind of back to like this sort of what is like.
So somebody buys this.
You have this brand that you're building.
You talk about storytelling.
You talk about building sort of and creating.
You talk about the desire of your twin brother to create and the fact that you have, which is amazing, by the way, that in twins, you guys have such great complementary skills to be able to say you know he does one aspect i do another aspect and we're able to actually have complimentary
skills to succeed so you're doing this you're building this brand so if somebody sees it on
the timeline they like the art the pixel art is undeniably very very cool and how it's done
what are people like what are some of the things chimpers are doing like when you're when you're
in the community what are the sort of things thatimpers are doing? Like when you're, when you're in the community, what are the sort of things that Chimpers is building and doing? Yeah, no,
absolutely. Um, I think, uh, Chimpers over the past two years has been, yeah, growing the ecosystem
with games, with, um, you know, collectibles, um, products and all sorts of things. But I think
originally like harking back to the first year
was the the dojo and the DNA of Chimpers is built on this kind of vivid world of
an anime kind of inspired world of adventure and training within the dojo and we created this hub
called the dojo obviously and within that you could battle every day versus other chimps
you could play our arcade mini games and you could experience a whole number of other community sort
of initiatives and features you know and bringing the chimps to life through animated forms
all sorts of things like that and we were able to create some really fun experiences like the
adventure series which was kind of a snakes and ladders sort of game board idea where you could
you know with your chimp every day roll your dice and you know kind of traverse this digital board
and win rewards along the way but also learn more about the chimps story with a chapter of lore
released at the end of every adventure um so really tying in all the different pillars of
our gaming and experience that we'd always been focused on but for us it was um expanding beyond
that and i think in the kind of end of 2022 2023 era was that kind of turning point for us to kind of focus outwards at the
same time, try to grow the brand. The mission for us was always to bring Chimpers to life as a
multimedia brand and to do that we needed to focus outwards and we've had a number of different sort
of key initiatives to help us do that, including
partnering with our licensing team, Playwell, who are a team who's been working with us
the past year.
You know, they've been helping us on all strategy and branding, and they've got decades of experience
with Disney and Warner.
And just some highlights with them, they've helped us to bring things to life in the real
world through Noun's Deli pop-up in Melbourne. and just some highlights with them. They've helped us to bring things to life in the real world
through Noun's Deli pop-up in Melbourne.
We exhibited at the licensing show in Vegas.
We launched our first plush with U2s,
which is a really great collectible soft line, hard line company
and bringing all of that to life through meaningful touch points not just for the
web through community but anywhere outside of that and that was totally linked to our content
creation at the same time it's how we can evolve chimpers through these experiences in the community
to beyond that and that's where we created our instagram and tick tock and focused on how we can bring um the characters to life in a friendly um you know front-facing way for people to learn
more about chimpers outside of web3 and we've amassed over a million followers on those
accounts in the past year and you know helping people to fall in love with the chimps characters
at its core and um you know those things are really important for us as we continue
to grow the brand but yeah it's all kind of rooted again in fun. We have gaming obviously working
with Reboot at the moment to bring our hyper casual games that we made in the dojo to you know
there get paid arcade and bring Chimpers to life through fun experiences,
connecting to new audiences, obviously the Reboots vision as well, and bringing that all to life. And I think finally, again, is Collectibles. We're launching an app today, bringing the Chimpers
storytelling to life through this hub, where you'll be able to rip pact, you'll be able to collect digital and physical cards and all of that is incubating community members, artists,
supporting them through helping them to collect and create at the same time and expanding the
Chimpers IP and it's built on base, again not just for Web3 but looking to
onboard collectors on chain outside of just the Web3 community but also via our socials channels
through partnerships and more so yeah we're always looking at ways to bring Chimpers to life through
these world building and community engagement formats and And yeah, there's always a lot of exciting things going on in Chimpers.
I think those are just some highlights, but there's always something going on.
And I think that's what makes Chimpers super special is that despite the bear market ensuing
and all of the things kind of taking people's attention away, navigating them elsewhere.
We've always remained consistent with our vision and the community building side of
things has always been a deep part of what we've done and engaging the Chimpers community
in everything to keep them strong members of the community.
So yeah, there's definitely always a lot going on
and I'm sure I'm rambling. No, I mean, this is like, this is actually kind of like, that's a
great way to put it because I think not the rambling part, but at the end there, when you
kind of mentioned the, you know, the piece about like how I was like, I was like, you're like,
I'm rambling. I'm like, that's a good way to put it. Not what I meant. What I meant was it's a good
way to put it as far as there's always something going on, because I think that's the thing that was like almost overwhelming to me is I would see the timeline. I'm like, it's a good way to put it. Not what I meant. What I meant was it's a good way to put it as far as there's always something going on, because I think that's the thing that was like
almost overwhelming to me is I would see the timeline. I'm like, it feels like Chimper's
always has something going on. Why do I feel like I can't keep up? And I think, you know,
that's just sort of, you know, that obviously it's a me issue. But when I look at it, like,
I think the gaming is something I'd love to dig in a little bit more. You talked about how you're
working with Reboot. You know, we're friends with Reboot. We're friends with them over there.
We've worked with them on some things.
So we love the Reboot.
But obviously you have like,
I think the gaming is a,
it feels like it's something
that you guys have been really kind of
pounding the table on a little bit.
So you've got the gaming thing.
Talk about the types of games you build,
what they are, how people play them, where it integrates the IP, because I think the gaming part is, I think,
to me, one of the more interesting aspects of what y'all are working on. Yeah, no, for sure.
It's definitely always been an important pillar. And when we started Chimpers, you know, we created
these mini games, these short form addicting formats that kind of were inspired by just the nostalgic retro games that you play in arcades and bringing those to life through the Chimper's lens.
And yeah, we released a number of those over the several months.
And I think, yeah, I think it was last year that we officially announced the partnership with Reboot.
But they had come to us with the idea of, you know, the
app that they're building, the Get Paid Arcade. And, you know, for them, they wanted to bring
games to life that were, you know, easy to engage with, not kind of strenuous games that you have
to spend a lot of time on, but more so games that are addicting easy and quick to play
and things that you can have fun with and the games that we had built over like the course of
Chimpers all kind of fit that category and essentially what they're doing is is revamping
all of these mini games that we've created adding additional layers of engagement, ways to play, kind of bringing the mechanics to life a bit more, really revamping the whole process really.
And with that, we'll be launching on reboot in the next couple of months.
I think they have a few launches obviously with Battleplan and Ape Chain.
they have a few launches obviously with battle plan and ape chain and then chimpers will be coming
with our first game rise of the undead which um is the very first game that we released as well
which is very much inspired by space invaders and you'll be able to play you'll be able to
learn by playing and i think that's the the special part you know, it's cater people on chain playing games is
something that resonated with us as well because that's something that is extremely important for
Chimpers and yeah we're just super excited because we've been you know working with them for the past
few several months now and seeing it all come to fruition and they've been teasing things here and
there and it's yeah all coming together in a really fun way.
So definitely excited for it.
If someone wants to play these games, do they need to have a Chimpers?
How does somebody get involved with playing the games that are coming out?
Because I think that part is super interesting.
For those of us onboarding people into Web3,
gaming still to me is about as logical of a road as there can be sure yeah yeah i mean anybody right
now can play the original games on our website but with reboot um anybody will be able to play it and
it's that kind of onboarding funnel through the email kind of um you know web 2.5 sort of approach
of you know you just need your email to log in
and it'll create a wallet on the back end for you and it's you know that seamless way of getting
on board and you don't need a chimpers to play it's you know open to anybody and everyone and
there'll be tournaments and there'll be you know ways to you know just stay engaged but anybody
will be able to play and obviously by holding
the chimpers there's you know kind of little benefits or perks i should say that you can get
for playing at the same time but um yeah anybody will be able to play and i think that's the the
really important part what role does community feedback play in the development of the games
the features i mean you mentioned the community uh several times like what's play in the development of the games, the features?
I mean, you mentioned the community several times.
What sort of the role of the community would you say in this whole story?
Yeah, no, it's integral.
We've always kept our heads to the ground in terms of collaborating with the community, you know,
iterating things with the community. And it started, you know, back with the Boring Ape Chronicles
being that intimate, small, tight-knit community where feedback is, you know, every day in the
Discord and sessions. And even with Chimpers, we have, you know, monthly connections with the
community. We try our hardest to, you know, let them in and build in public, let them explore everything that we're working on.
But yeah, it's definitely key.
And I think some of the biggest changes within Chimpers has come from the community.
I think, as I mentioned earlier, with the adventure series that we had when we first started the project,
it was a really fun layer of experience but it wasn't necessarily hitting the marks for
onboarding and getting the word out there about Chimpers and I think there was a lot of collectors
and community members that loved that experience, but there
were equally a large amount of people that voiced the opinion that we should explore
other things as well.
That was one of the key cornerstones that led us to exploring the brand building and
the content side through our socials and putting our heads together about how we can bring Chimpers to life through
new forms of discovery through our kind of licensing approach as well so yeah I think
wherever we can we try our best to keep the community at the heart and the core and I think
one of the special things about Chimpers is the you, it's not just Timpers who is a part of the artistic journey.
We have, over the past two years, involved the community in all aspects of building out the project, whether that's, you know, animations.
The content that you see on Instagram and TikTok came from a community member who had been creating derivatives around Chimpers early on.
And we brought them on board to join the team to help us do that.
And that's been extended across, you know, all sorts of things,
whether that's, you know, activations that we do in real life events
or even with the upcoming Collectible Card app that we're launching.
They're going to be integral parts of that,
featuring artists within the community to drop
chimpers sets as well as beyond that so yeah i'd say that the community are definitely
um you know hand in hand with everything that we do yeah i feel like for y'all it's like there's
always um you know there's always like sort of this collectability in this community involvement where you're hitting on these pillars because i'm hearing you know there's always, you know, there's always like sort of this collectability in this community
involvement where you're hitting on these pillars because I'm hearing, you know, there's the gaming
pillar, there's sort of the community pillar, there's this collectability pillar, and there's
sort of this art and storytelling pillar. And all of them sort of connect together to kind of build
a brand very similar to even the conversation we're having with Austin this morning. With that
said, like, one of the things that's really interesting that I, at least for me
personally, is that you all have been very much involved with other communities. Obviously,
there is a sort of a Bored Ape Yacht Club, sort of early sort of connection point there. So you
all have that. But at the same time, you have sort of these other, you know,
you have this community going on. How does the community feel? Is there enough crossover with
other communities? Like, how does your community feel about some of the, you know, sort of,
you know, integrations or things that you're doing with say, you know, like, you know,
you see a board, a yacht club, you see, you know, other people on the top, like, you know,
is it, are they like, Hey, come one, come all. Are they like, Hey, we should be focusing more on the community. Like, talk to me a little bit
about how you approach that. Yeah. Um, I think the, the collaborative aspect of Chimpers,
not only within the community, but like broader within web three has always been a key focus for us. And I think that's what makes Chimpa special. It's that kind of mindset of going further together, really, and honing in on what makes Web3 culture energy. And I think we always try to bring that to the table,
whether that's, you know, like you see with the timeline at the moment
and Timper's Chimpification Spree.
I think, you know, doing things like that is what makes, you know,
being a community member special.
And I think, you know, they're very much for it.
You know, it amplifies the Chimpers message
while staying true to
what we're continuing to do. It's just keeping the fun to what we're doing really.
It definitely helps to keep you relevant within the space and keeping yourselves at the top of
everyone's minds. i think with those sorts
of collaborations it's important and i think with our card app launching um today and our first drop
tomorrow being arcade degen that's inspired by the artwork that timpers had made which features
a number of different web3 communities all in this arcade, you know, all together, you know, just pushing that kind of collaborative energy.
And with that, all the cards are inspired by these different communities.
You know, Forgotten Room Wizards, Wrecked Guy, Creeps, The Plague, etc.
uh creeps the plague etc and you know i think bringing that to life in a way that people can
collect and cherish is going to be really fun because when you bring you know into the picture
brands and communities that people already have affinities for and within web3 it's natural
everybody has crossovers between communities you know i think the the mentality of just being a maxi of one community
you know can sometimes be you know it's important but i think the the crossover between communities
is just natural and i think leveraging that is something that we've always tried to do and
with the arcade degen drop tomorrow it's definitely um you know rooted within that. And yeah, I think we're always just trying to stay fun.
I think that's probably the most important aspect.
The collaboration over competition is something that a lot of people talk the talk, but not
everybody walks the walk.
So I respect that for sure.
Was there any points?
One of the things I've been asking founders a lot lately, because I'm always curious about this is, you know, you build this
thriving community during a bull market, things are going about as well as humanly possible.
You've got, you know, the, you know, sort of top, you know, Board of Yacht Club, who is sort of the
top, you know, sort of NFT brand saying, Hey, like, we want you to work with us. You're our
favorite, you know, you know, your, your brother is their favorite artist and you're, they're, you know, designing the Rolling Stone, then you to work with us. You're our favorite. Your brother is their favorite artist.
They're designing the Rolling Stone.
Then you launched a successful thing.
But were there points in the bear market where it was like, man, I don't know if this is for us anymore.
This is just not that you're trying to rug or anything like that. But it's like, is there a point in the bear market when you're down and you're like, things just aren't going well?
Money's not easy for a lot of people.
Community and vibes are down. Was there ever a point when you're like, shit,
can we get through this thing? Yeah, I think the, the bear market definitely difficult period for any project. I'm sure anybody can attest to that. It's, you know, you know you know extremely difficult when the you know community uh you know kind of
losing interest um there's you know different matters fleeting you know here there and everywhere
and um yeah you know you just really have to focus and you know it's you know it wouldn't say
that we didn't struggle i think for sure like every day is you know, it's, you know, wouldn't say that we didn't struggle, I think for sure, like every day is, you know, new challenges.
And we've always, you know, just came to the table with, you know, just sticking to the plan.
And for us, we didn't follow those trends or matters.
And during the tough times where, you know, perhaps people were losing interest or, you know, not as engaged, I think it just made us want to double down more so on the people who were engaged.
And always thinking about how we can take chimpers, you know, to a wider mindshare.
And there was never a time like during the past two years that that's ever been a question for us.
You mentioned like people looking to, you know,
like take an easy way out or like give up.
I don't think that's ever for us been an option.
I think whenever there is kind of tough times
and, you know, it might sound cliche,
but it is just something that spurs us on
more than ever and then when the the good times do come like you say you enjoy those moments
you know you guys spoke to Austin earlier about the the big event last night absolutely incredible
milestone and I think you know you just have to keep going and with that in mind you know for us
we'll have those moments and they'll keep on coming but you just have to keep working hard
and staying true to the vision and make sure that you keep the community in mind at every step of
the way and there's definitely difficult conversations and you have to take them head
on and we've never really shied away from that I to take them head on. And we've never
really shied away from that. I think during the bear market is when we've spoken to the community
the most and got their feedback and thoughts. And yeah, I think it's definitely difficult
and a challenge, but it's never kind of, you know, deterred us.
Yeah, that's, that's, I mean, it is something that is,
you know, when you see it, it's like, it's easy to think like, you know, because we've seen a lot
of founders throw in the towel, we've seen some who have tried really hard for a while,
and eventually throw in the towel, some much quicker. And it's funny, because the, the FUD,
we, you know, I always, you know, try to remind people, the reason why people can FUD their favorite founders
nowadays is because they're still here, because they haven't left.
You can't FUD the ones that left and rugged at various points.
And so it's not an enviable position at times to just deal with people who are beating down
the gates trying to kind of come for whatever. And I guess with that part, you talked about the community feedback.
How do you separate the signal from the noise with the people who are saying,
yes, these people are the true fans. We know that versus somebody who is just,
you know, annoyed their bag is down. They're looking for a reason to sell. Like,
how do you separate the signal from the noise as somebody who is in the trenches on that every day? Yeah, no, it's, um, you have to just keep an open mind. I think you
can never really, um, you know, dismiss somebody's, um, feedback or, you know, I think everything is
valid in some way, like even if, you know, perhaps they're not as deeply rooted or engaged or even care necessarily about the project.
I'm sure that there's always something that you can take away from what they're trying to say and what, you know, they're trying to get across.
But like you say, you do have to just, you know, focus on the people who are here every single day, the ones that are engaged, and they're the
ones who will definitely be giving you the most honest and true feedback. And yeah, like you say,
you just have to separate it. And for me, it's, you know, just being open-minded, taking everything
on board. But when you go to the drawing board and look at that,
I think you give attention to the aspects
that you think will bring the most change
and the best ways that you can really adapt.
But yeah, I think, again, it's definitely a tough one
because everybody here has different motives.
You know, there's the collectors, there's the artists who enjoy the art of the collection.
There's, you know, traders, there's, you know, a whole array of different people,
all with varying sorts of opinions, all sorts of varying visions, I guess,
for what they want to see in the project. But I guess,
again, it also starts at the top. And that's why we try our best to build in public, share
these monthly video updates, share, you know, monthly AMAs, you know, just being hyper engaged
with the community. And I think when you share the vision of where you want to go,
I think everybody will align and it's a lot easier to cultivate the community and,
you know, separate the kind of real community members from, you know, people who aren't
necessarily as engaged really. But yeah, I think that would probably be the best sort of,
But yeah, I think that would probably be the best sort of advice, I suppose.
Yeah, it's hard, but I appreciate what you said there because one of the things I've often said on this show know, I'm on the right side of this one, they think that for a reason.
And I really need to do my best to understand why they think that, because that's going to help me get to the root core of what I'm trying to solve.
And I like that, you know, approach that you take there as well and kind of thinking of it almost that way.
So I think that makes a lot of sense.
So, you know, you've given us, I think, a lot of good information about the history,
where you're at now, what you're doing. I'm curious about the future. If you were to snap
your fingers and we'll get back to sort of making sure people know kind of where to go,
especially with, you know, the cards and everything else you have going on. I want to make sure we
give, you know, the shout out to sort of even the news of the day action.
But like for anybody who is saying like, you know, they're looking at Chimpers
and they're like looking at it from a long-term perspective.
Like if you're snapping your fingers and it's five years from now,
two years from now, three years from now, whatever time frame you want to use,
what is the, you know, where is Chimpers?
What is Chimpers doing?
Give me the details on the sort of the where Chimpers is at in three to five years in your dream scenario.
and, you know, bringing Chimpers to be a true multimedia brand
and one that people know and love and can discover, you know,
within Web3 but outside of Web3 as well through all of the kind of activations
that we're doing on that Web2 side as well.
And, yeah, you know, I think the the steps that we're we're taking now we are building
a really solid foundation with the the brand licensing expansion and um you know these events
that we're attending and um we've just signed um a partnership deal with a soft line and hard line
um a soft line company um to create us the physical arm of Chimpers,
who can help us bring to life the physical arm
through specialty and online.
And bringing all of that together,
I think step by step, incrementally,
is what we're trying to focus on.
And at the end of the day,
see Chimpers come to life as yeah a true um character
brand that is um loved by everyone really and leveraging all of the the elements of web 3 um
and this you know new wave of fandom really is the goal for us and And, you know, I have high sky ideas and a vision of where we are.
But like I say, it's, you know, step by step and we will get there surely as the way that
we continue to build.
So, yeah, definitely excited for everything that's coming with Jimpers and, yeah, you
know, a lot more to come where that came from.
Awesome.
No, it's really cool to hear about it and kind of like let our audience get fully educated on everything that's going on.
I know it's on base.
It looks great, obviously.
Everything you all do looks great.
It always is fun.
But for people wanting to do the collectible card app on RKDGen, what is the action they should take today, tomorrow, et cetera,
to start ripping packs?
Yeah, for sure.
So today we're launching the app.
Everybody will be able to sign up and register for future drops.
And that will be Chimpers related.
It will be Web3 collaborative related and even brand collaboration related.
Tomorrow is the first drop that we have, which is RKD Gen.
And that was a legacy one that was tied to an artwork allow list.
So that is the first one that, you know, the snapshot's been done and it will roll out tomorrow.
But ahead from that, there'll be a number of other drops that you'll be able to see on the app itself.
And you'll be able to stay up to date with all of the upcoming drops that we have.
And there's several in the pipeline.
And all you need to do is just stay tuned for the announcement today.
We'll be putting out a demo video.
And, yeah, stay tuned for for everything
to come and it is on base so um yeah everything is you know base related but uh there'll be ways
for you to log in whether that's through metamask whether that's through email or coinbase smart
wallet um the onboarding sort of layer is going to be super seamless. And yeah, there's, you know,
anybody can get involved, Web3 or your family and friends, get them on the app as well. But yeah,
stay tuned today for the announcement really is the best starting point.
It's awesome. Well, look, thanks for coming on. Getting up early with us in the morning,
giving us the download, talking a little bit about what it is, getting all of us educated
so I no longer have to be an uncultured swine who no longer can answer fully
what Chimper's is.
Cap, any other thoughts before we let Insight get out of here?
Yeah, my thought that I could, it just kept going back to hearing Insight talk
and not to our, you know, the meeting we had yesterday,
but between what Doodles is doing
with Chimpers,
the conversation we had yesterday,
I believe Insight called it
create and collect.
This path, this vision,
I think I may be seeing
potentially the next quote-unquote meta of NFTs and specifically
NFT collecting and onboarding, like how this cycle unfolds, assuming we get... And man,
it really feels like things are heating back up again between all these grails purchased,
the floor is looking green. It just sentiment is absolutely coming back. The question is,
sentiment is absolutely coming back. The question is, do we find more active participants?
And I can't help but think how doodles and chimpers, and again, the conversation we had
yesterday, the barrier of entry, both from a cost and a technical aptitude standpoint,
has gotten lowered.
I feel like it's gotten lowered almost all the way to Web2.
And the tech's been obfuscated while still building on-chain,
still leveraging the rails.
It really does feel like we're at that point
to where it's not a crazy ask.
It's not a huge hurdle to get involved, to get started.
It really, it's starting to feel so much
like a Web2 experience that most people, you know,
are very comfortable and familiar with.
And this idea of, hey, you don't need to go drop
a hundred grand to get, you know, active
and start participating in these communities.
Rather, price points that, you know,
I don't want to say everyone,
but most are much more comfortable with.
I just, this idea, this top of funnel, this create and collect, I don't know.
Do you think this, am I onto something here?
Do you think we could be looking at the next phase of NFTs, if you will?
I mean, I just, I think we're growing.
I think it's growing pains like anything else.
It's like, you know, I go back to my, you know,
boring typical example, but I'm, you know,
you and I are boomers in this space being in our forties.
And like, I remember the mid nineties
when I was 12, 13 years old making websites.
And we remember logging onto AOL
and there was like a crackling sound.
And then you had, you know, if you got a phone call, you got kicked off the internet.
And when you're coding HTML, if one character was off, the whole thing turned into like
just jumbled.
And then we got, you know, then we got, you know, sort of, you know, things like Squarespace
exists now and, you know, sort of the originals.
And so I think like you start to see what gets created out of this thing.
And I think, yes, I think, you know, we went through this painful early phase and web three is, has,
you know, for, for a long time, been a giant German shepherd puppy with massive paws that
eventually started to grow into, you know, a bigger dog. And at some point it's going to mature
to the point where people are just using the technology. And that is what mass adoption truly
looks like.
And it's things like this we talked about today with Chimpers.
It's the way we talked about doodles.
It's the idea that, you know, you can be a successful Web3 native brand,
hyper-focusing on holders who are here,
but the cost and tech barrier is always going to be there
until people start to build out tools.
And, you know, the call we had yesterday,
things that we've been looking at as far as like, you know,
like people give shit to blast, what pac-man's doing with trying to create
sort of the mobile and and the uh and the and the wallet app what magic eden's doing with their
wallet app there is this large grab towards the tech that exists today and moving towards a way
to be able to say to your friends jump on here and you know i know you were a fan of the sort
of the magic eden product that they dropped where they were dropping, you know, where they were dropping sort of like NFTs,
almost like pump dot fund. But like for that generation of that people, the people we talked
about earlier who are trading meme coins, they're probably like, cool, there's a product I can tell
my friends, hey, jump in this thing with me. For people like us, we want more club-based utility
oftentimes. We like the entertainment, we like things like what Chimpers are building, what
Doodles are building, what Klainos are building, what Doodles are building,
what Klainos are building,
who we're having on, I think, next Monday.
And so I think, like,
those things are, like, a good example of, like,
yeah, like, that's what we want.
But to your point, like,
I think we're entering another phase.
Are there more participants?
I don't know.
Like, I don't know if there's going to be
a ton more participants,
but if we get a few more
and some more people jump in, it's good.
But I think, you know, like, the one thing that's, you know, predictable is that everything's
completely unpredictable. We never know what this next phase is going to look like. If we did,
everybody would have been rich off the last phase. So, you know, when I think about the ways that
NFTs are going to be applied, the reason why I write the book, the reason why we do the show,
the reason why we talk to people, it's like, it's because like, when you get more big brains in thinking about it, they think of
ways to use the technology, the information, the data in ways we never dreamed of. And I think that
that's what I'm looking for next is like, I don't know what's going to come next. I like to stay on
the edge to stay as close to the rails as possible. So we know what's going on. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, like the next phase of, you know, AI
and crypto and sort of Web3 in general.
I don't know what they're going to look like, but I think we are entering whatever it is
because, you know, bull markets bring in more participants, participants become interested
innovators, they become interested, you know, active members.
And then that leads us to where we are.
Like, you know, whatever brought funds members. And then that leads us to where we are like,
you know, whatever brought funds in, like we now have token proof. And so I just think it's like,
you know, you, you see what brings people to the table, what brings people into these,
into this space. And then when the next phase starts, we end up with new innovators,
new smart people, and new people saying, you know what I can build in this space.
And I just, I want people who are going to be a, look, look, if someone's dream is to be a data scientist at an insurance company,
God bless, go do it. That's awesome. I'm happy for you. I'm happy you found your thing.
But if there's that data science, a person who's going to be a data scientist at an insurance
company who has this early stage tech itch, I'd love for them to come into Web3 and, you know,
say like, you know what, if I work in this space, I can work on something that could change the world down the line. And I think that that's pretty cool. So long-winded
way of saying I do think we're entering it, but I think it's impossible to predict. Everyone's
using the term consumer crypto now. It's just like mass adoption all over again. And I don't
know what that looks like. So I think that things like base, what Jimbers is building on base,
I think that's an example of like, it's accessible. It's something people can use a little easier. It's something people are more familiar with. People trust Coinbase. So I think we're, I think we're getting there, but I, I'm just like, for me personally, and I'll kind of land the plane on this cap. Like, I'm so excited to be here at a time when I get to witness all of this happening and I'm going to remember, you know, the things
that succeeded, the things that failed, the things that look like they were left for dead,
that then came back, all of those, everything in between. And that's what excites me is we get to
see innovation and builders in real time and learn from them. And that's why I'm just excited to be
here to cover it. So I don't know, I'll kind of land the plane on that. Yeah. Very much exciting time to be here.
I, A,
appreciate your time today.
Shout out to Austin as well for joining
us earlier.
This is...
I don't know.
I'm cautiously optimistic
heading in. I keep saying it
really feels like things have
shifted.
That said, I don't want to... What I don't want to see happen is get back into a world where it's
overhyped and hyper-financialized where every activation, every product that chipped, everything feels like a letdown
because it doesn't send the floor price mooning. So I think you said it earlier,
part of it just like, I feel like the space maturing at large. And I
also think maybe one of the intended or unintended consequences of
some of these pack rips and these lower, I think it's going
to take away some of these pack rips and these lower, I think it's going to take away some of that overly financialized element
that the space had in 2020.
I think it will bring in more of the collect things you want to collect
because you really want to collect them,
whether it's the art or it ties into some game or whatever it may be.
I just feel this feels right as opposed to,
you know, six-figure avatars for a video game.
100%.
I think that's it.
I think this is like the way to go.
So no, I appreciate Insight for joining us this morning,
learning more about Chimpers.
You know, got our Harpy hack of the weekend,
a very relevant one.
Shout out to Loathe, by the way.
I don't know if Loathe's still out there,
but I got a DM from Loathe
specifically saying this might make,
it was before Harpy
had actually sent me the initial,
because Harpy had sent me a DM
that we posted yesterday.
And before that,
we had, I had gotten the DM from Loathe
as a listener and a community member
and somebody who's in here every day, we appreciate it.
Loathe drops a, you know,
hey, this might make a good Harpy hack of the week.
And it's always cool seeing that when it's like,
you know, we were telling someone yesterday,
it's like, it's cool when we create a sponsor segment
where people have sponsor recognition.
They're not like, this is a good hack of the week.
They're like, this is a good Harpy hack of the week. I actually took a screenshot of it. We'll share
with y'all, but like those sort of moments just warm my heart with joy, but shout out to Loathe
as well. And that's kind of what we try to do is we want these to be parts of the show that people
get excited about. They listen for that gives them some sort of information, like realizing
our audience is very information based and they enjoy that social currency of knowing stuff like things like the more, you know, and a heartbeat hack of the week and potentially some
other segments we're looking at coming up in the future. Um, obviously the ape coin segments we
talk about like with our title sponsor, but even some other ones we're talking about when we
optimize, when we're looking for sponsors, we're not just like, who's going to pay us money. We
actually try to think about like, who, what can we do with a sponsor that is going to bring recognition to the
sponsor, but also add to the show. And, you know,
hearing the hack of the week, you know,
having someone DM me and say Harpy hack of the week or having people say,
Hey, you know, this might be a good ENS. The more, you know,
it's like people don't just recognize the segment.
They recognize the sponsor,
which is like part of the goal that we're having here. And so I,
I appreciate that from Lowe that you're still out there.
Shout out.
I'll send him a DM and let him know I got him shout out the end of the show.
I meant to shout him out when we did it because he sent it before Harpy and was like, hey,
check this one out.
Maybe a good Harpy hack of the week.
And like I said, it always tickles me when we see the sponsor called out in the segment
because that's the goal of what we're trying to do.
And also it shows that someone was like, hey, this might be a good segment for the show
and they enjoyed enough to care and engage.
So appreciate that from our audience.
Always feel free to send us Hacks You See
for Hack of the Week, ENS More You Knows,
like whatever it is, like we always do appreciate getting those.
Look, that said, Cap, probably a good place
to put a pin in this sucker.
Great show today.
I think, you know, we had a lot of talk about kind of a lot of things from meme coins to doodles again.
Thanks to Austin for coming up.
I'm sure he's exhausted and gotten to the pudgy penguin soulbound.
Thanks for coming back up this morning to chat about that.
Pretty good show.
And then I don't know if we have a guest tomorrow, but if we do, we'll work that in.
Then Thursday into eight coins and AI.
And then Friday,
next thing you know,
it's the weekend.
I will be just a heads up to you.
I will be available for all shows this week,
but I will be probably at a different location Friday morning,
but it should be no problem,
but won't have my normal setup.
So we'll see how that goes.
Stream drop is live. Stream drop up. Go get your stream drop. Thanks everyone who came by this
morning. Again, like pretty good conversation start to finish. Excited for, look, seeing the
crypto markets heat up is fun. I would like the blast token to do something so I could sell and
get out. I'm being transparent about that. Holding it for those two X points. And I was like, the
markets will move up and the blast token to move up. It'm being transparent about that, holding it for those two X points. And I was like, the markets will move up
and the blast token will move up.
It is not played out that way.
It continues to move down.
So can the devs do something for me
so that I can sell at least a portion of this?
I am over allocated for my comfort level there.
So somebody help me there.
But, you know, things moving up.
Ape is cooking.
Markets are looking good.
NFT grails are starting to go.
Grails, a lot of times,
are leaders into the next level of things.
Cool seeing some consolidation into the communities.
The builders being recognized.
Doodles getting love.
They deserve all the love.
With that said,
we'll send everybody off another day.
We'll talk to you bright and early tomorrow morning at 8 a.m.
Eastern time.
Have a wonderful,
wonderful day,
everybody.
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