My hello does change is doing a quick mind first
That's a good idea. I had a lot of issues today with spaces. Uh, I can hear you loud and clear
Yeah, it's funny. You should say that actually because when I just loaded the spaces up then, uh, it
Immediately ended and then restarted and then said play recording, but then it launched the live spaces
So i'm not really sure what's the name of that? Um, but it looks like we're getting people in now
So it seems to be working for
Uh rock drop dropped off he was right there like a moment ago
Uh, there's a bunch of uh people that were still waiting for I guess
Drug huskies. I sent you a speaker invite
What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up
Yeah, don't see your new profile picture
Oh man, I miss bit connector
Sounds like you're having a good friday, man. How's it going? Having a good day, man. I um
Got a little more sleep than usual for for these friday mornings. Uh going on six and a half hours
Um had a little break between the polygon space and this one. We normally don't normally i'm i'm late to this because we're trying to
Frantically wrap up the previous one, but we got rugged like 27 minutes before the end and we just decided
Because we couldn't get it back up and running properly to call it. So I got a little recharge time
Played with my my fishies a little bit
Uh and uh ready to uh rock and roll i'm sporting my new pfp. I think maybe that's why i'm so excited today
Jack did you say you can or can't see it
Uh, no, I can see it. Yeah
Where's the where's the dog thing, right? I'm seeing the the your your regular profile picture here
Wonderful. So some will see it some won't
Maybe i'll leave like halfway through and come back because sometimes it doesn't update or whatever. But uh,
Yeah for those who cannot see it
Doggy wizard and he's the coolest doggy wizard there's ever been
Yeah, man, I had to look twice to recognize your profile looks good
Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. I it was a mission to get this by the way
I spent you know the last weeks looking at these. This is one of the doshanal's dogs collection
Uh, and I think we'll have a bunch of them coming by today
But uh, yeah, this is one of the doshanal's dogs collection, which is uh, uh as you might have guessed a
Which are kind of cool because bitcoin ordinals are so the gas fees are so expensive
So a lot of people are coming over to doge ordinals
Hey rock that bp is looking fire. I love it the wizard
Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you
I'm really excited because me and cindy have been we watched I mentioned before rings of power the lord of the rings
series recently and then now we're going back and rewatching all the old lord all the lord of the rings movies
And then gonna do probably the hobbit movies
And then we're thinking about reading the books because I read the books and I love them and she's like should we read the books
Together i'm like hell. Yeah
The wizard team reminds me of a lot of things like wizards and dragons you might know that from uh ethereum when they launched this nft
uh play-to-earn game thing and then the bitcoin wizards, right and
Like it's a great team. I love it
Half-root wizard. Yeah, exactly. Yeah
Internet magical money. It was like a wizard
It on the bitcoin subreddit when it was a wizard drawn in paint with a yellow bitcoin
Kind of reminds me of that as well. I think that's where the inspiration for the the taproot wizards came from
Yeah, that logo that was drawn by hand
Okay, uh, let's get started
I was gonna play a hype song man. I wanted to get us all hyped up
Can I play 30 seconds while we get speakers up or a minute? What do you want? I'm looking for
Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, i'm asking you though. Do you want me to play because you gotta get people up and stuff
How long do you want to play for?
I'm looking i'm still messaging them on uh on twitter. One is sick is not going to come
The other one. I don't know. It's not response responding. We have uh
John klesky is here already as a speaker and uh waiting for musk to join that would would have been
I wanted to to get every week. We have something that that
Doesn't work out. But yeah, go on. Uh, I'll keep messaging them and uh
You you you do the music give you a chance to do your your production stuff
And then uh, once you want me to turn it off, you just let me know. All right, here we go. Yeah, sounds good
Just like the street lights lit this town Like a fire in the breeze up and down
Can't be afraid to leave this town We got this phone, I don't know how
I see them, they're here at us Three new wheels turned down the night
Only just like the sun and ice And all that we got, only I need a light
Only just like the sun and ice And all that we got, only I need a light
Only just like the sun and ice And all that we got
I need a light, only I need a light
Only just like the sun and ice And all that we got, only I need a light
Only just like the sun and ice And all that we got, only I need a light
Though we can't turn back from our sins and our endures
They know how far down they're playing
Only just like the sunrise
You know that we got it ready to end
Sometimes we got it ready to end
Sometimes we got it ready to end
Alright, shall we get started?
Yeah, unfortunately I cannot reach the people that were supposed to come up as speakers today
For some reason, one of them is unresponsive, the other one is sick as I said
And yeah, not really good
And Jock Huskies is having connection issues
No worries, we're gonna bring the fire anyway
I'm literally dancing, even though the music stopped
Hey, what's up Michael, good to have you man
Let me introduce you properly
Former VP of Engineering for DAP radar
And what is your new trading company?
Yeah, I left DAP radar to do AutoTrading.vip
It's just a VIP service for trade automation using my very own code because I'm an engineer
And let's say I know a little bit about automation
Yeah, I'm having a lot of fun with that, making profits and spending time in spaces while the algorithms make me some money
And you, I think have some context about, we'll definitely talk some ordinals today
And you have some context about that I think because DAP radar
I think you were involved in some of the analytics for them on DAP radar
Like some indexing or what were you guys doing with Orgs?
Yeah, so the thing, you know, all the ordinals basically are NFTs
DAP radar is a platform that is displaying all the activity of all assets and games
And all the DAPs on over 60 blockchains
So we had to also index everything that happens on the Bitcoin blockchain with ordinals
And ordinals are not really like a technically nice implementation of NFTs
Because it's not like you have a smart contract and it takes care of everything
You can't even give your collection a proper name, I mean back then, right?
So you have to really track every single movement of every single Satoshi that has an inscription in it
And hell is that crazy, like if you miss one Satoshi where there is an inscription in it
It might be a transfer of an NFT from one wallet to another
And if you miss that, then you lose track of the whole thing
So basically we had to go back in time, index the whole thing, make sure to not miss anything
And then when there was a spike in activity because a lot of people selling and everything
Wow, man, we had to spin up so many machines to keep up with the NFT movement simply
And then we had some issues because some other platforms show different numbers
Because it's not that straightforward as on EVM or Solana to just figure out how much volume has been moved based on per collection
So we had different numbers
For example, we were looking at numbers from, what was it named, I forgot the name
Some other platform that is doing tracking
And then we somehow agreed that they were making some mistakes with tracking
So listen, complicated, the technology is not awesome
But the people are super hyped about it
But I really hope that we can improve that in some way
Because now you can still argue, let's say you transfer an NFT to a Satoshi that is basically never going to move again
Is that basically a burn?
So we had this thing where it was transferred to a wallet that never moved anything anymore
And that wallet never bought anything for like years
Is that now a dead NFT or is it still so complicated, right?
And so I hope that we can improve the technology
But yeah, we had quite some issues tracking these things
And we still have, I mean, the company still has, I'm not there now, but it's not smooth, let's say
So we could still improve them if we want to keep them on Bitcoin
And it would be awesome from the tech point of view to just do it better
But yeah, all good, and yeah, it's getting, but it's getting a lot of adoption, so you have to
Good to know, yeah, I've heard about these indexing issues and all kinds of weird stuff
I mean, it's new technology, so it's great to see that DAP radar is working on all that
Yeah, there's a lot of people, I think, working on this stuff
That's a big part of what DoShane wants to do now, is help build DoJinals and Ordinals infrastructure
So that the community has better tooling and we can make Ordinals huge
Actually, the technology is quite bare bones
I mean, I know I'm not going to talk forever about it, but the technology is super bad, okay
But the need for it is there, right?
So it was implemented in some rudimentary way
And it's like, if you know anything about that, you're going to basically facepalm yourself
Every day when you work with Ordinals from the tech side
But there is so much demand for it that I love to see proper innovation there from DoShane, so let's go
Well, the idea is here that we, as you said, the technology is pretty bare bones for Ordinals
And you cannot do really much with them except for them existing on chain, which is great
But it is what it is, they exist there
But having really important stuff that we are starting to get really used to
In Web3, decentralized trading, etc.
That's not going to happen anytime soon, if ever, on DoJcoin network itself
I see a bunch of familiar faces in the audience
We can give some shoutouts here
We've got Pennybags, we've got the QuickSwap handle in the audience
We've got L30X6, hello there, L30
And we've got SphereKing, we've got Cryptocanuck, we've got Fern with the hearts and the 100
Sporting a Dojanels dog, what is that, like a Paris?
One of those little Paris hats or French hats
We've got L30 with the purple hearts
We've got Mason, the rain god DC with the green hearts
We've got Baby Yoda with the purple hearts, Extraterrestrial with the purple hearts
SCR with the green hearts
Dan S, sporting a Dojanels dog, is giving the thumbs ups
We've got, let's see, Genesis Block, Doge McKenzie, Doge Chain
We've got, hey I'm driving here
I think that's a reference to Rick and Morty
Hey I'm walking here, which is I think a reference to something old I forget
It's from Midnight Cowboy, when the taxi hits Dustin Hoffman
That's references on references
We've got Pennybags with the laugh emojis, we've got Geysa DC
Just while we're at it, you know the fun fact about that scene in Midnight Cowboy
Dustin Hoffman actually got hit by a taxi on the street in New York
That was his genuine reaction, it was improvised, it wasn't in the script, to get hit by a car
We've got Molly, aka B, over at Doge Tools
We've got Crypto for Life, at Liquidity for Life, aka Exit
And we've got, let's see, who else?
Madman, Sombrero, we've got someone with some music notes or something
Bartfather, Marcel's Doge Chain Paws
We've got John Sharp, the famous artist John Sharp
And we've got, he actually does a lot of graphics for Doge Chain in the community
Most of the branding that you see has been originally created by John Sharp
That you see here, the world of LDA and of the Doge Chain core team
We've got Matrix Dog 420, is that an original RDP or is that edited at all?
It's a real doge punk, NFT, which is a...
It's a sheeb with a beer, a blue hoodie, and some sunglasses
That's a pretty clean one, I like that one a lot
Richie Guru, Sphere Kings, also sporting
Sphere Kings is a little similar to the one I bought for my dad with the fishing pole and the fish
My dad doesn't have that, whatever that choker is
I don't know if that's like a BDSM choker or just like a Rottweiler Pitbull type choker or what
Well, essentially it's the same thing
The choker is the same thing
It's a dog choker, but yeah, people that are into bondage
Only 50% and we're discussing BDSM and dog chokers, welcome to Doge Chain
We've got Chris sporting a Doge Nal's dog with a nice clean little sheeb with a nice little bone
Sombrero's got a Mexican sheeb and Dan S. with the eye patch Doge Nal's dog
Alright guys, so there's been some cool news going on this week
We were actually going to talk about a lot of this in the polygon space, but it got rugged towards the end
So maybe we could carry over some of that macro news, everybody cool with the macro
That would be great, yeah sure, awesome
So this is a pretty interesting one
So the Bitcoin ETF, it's off and running
I think people don't understand how big it has actually been just because the price of Bitcoin
It was a buy the rumor sell the news event and the price of Bitcoin went down a little bit
Now it's like basically mostly like pulling back, not quite
But the size and stagnating a bit, yeah, a little pull back, a little accumulation
But the size of the CTF has actually been monstrous
So just BlackRock alone has 3 billion dollars now, net inflows of 3 billion dollars
That means it might have been like say 4 million inflows and 1 million sold maybe, whatever
If people are buying and selling, it's probably mostly inflows since it just started, right
But 3 billion dollars, which like so the Bitcoin ETFs in general
And I'm assuming BlackRock just by itself, but I don't know that for sure
But the Bitcoin ETFs in general, so to give you an idea of how big this is
In 2023, there was around 500 new ETFs issued just in general in the world
Not Bitcoin, but just general ETFs, there were 500 new ETFs in 2023
The Bitcoin ETF just in its first week of trading has surpassed all of those 500 ETFs combined for volume and inflows
All of the ETFs of every company, every BlackRock ETF, every Vanguard ETF, every single ETF
I shares all these, of 2023, Bitcoin has surpassed all of them combined
That is crazy guys, this is just so telling of what's to come
The media still manages to talk it down somehow
I've seen CNBC and CNN talking about it saying, you know, price is going down, it's pretty bad
But off to a bad start and shit like that, I don't understand
Biden declared a state of emergency over Bitcoin essentially
Sorry, he declared a state of emergency over Bitcoin energy
When he's like once, he's super late because we already passed that
Now they are using it for making energy from flares and then using that for Bitcoin mining
So we already passed that long time, I don't know what he's doing
Yeah, it's just a slow moving world
If you read the document, the actual declaration is kind of an ignorant document
It clearly speaks to whoever's written it, it clearly doesn't understand the current situation with Bitcoin mining
and the sustainability and the lengths that miners have gone to in the last five years, three years
to clean up their act to make sure that they're using renewable sources and make sure that they're using redundant energy
or energy that would otherwise be wasted, like you said, flare gas
another waste product energy that would otherwise just be lost at the pump
The miners have actually done a great job there because one thing that could have stopped
but definitely delayed Bitcoin is colliding with the green agenda
Green agenda is one of the most powerful lobbies on the planet
It's major support from huge bodies such as the WEF and so on
And so the fact that the Bitcoin miners have really tried to make that work is really great
because it means that they kind of played them at their own game in a sense
and now when they criticize them in that way, it just doesn't make any sense
Yeah, Bitcoiners are going to let some bullshit slide
Imagine if we did this, if they did the same thing
Let's take the entire financial sector, the banking sector and say they only need to use waste energy
and they only need to use renewable energy
Otherwise, we're going to tax all the banking and all the financial sector to smithereens
Why are we focusing on this?
It's something that's bad and it's a service that people need
Yearly, we waste energy on stupid stuff like billboards, like air conditioning when we don't need it
Christmas lights, I think that yearly we spend more energy on Christmas lights than on Bitcoin mining
I think it's the last phase of them fighting you, honestly, and they don't have anything else
I think that's the last straw they can hold onto
and that's already breaking and crumbling because the news are quite bullish
So I think then you win is next in my opinion, I think that's the whole story
Well, there's an article I've been reading that came out in August 3rd of 2023
Let me just see here, it's by CoinSpeaker that says that there's actually a KPMG report
that shows that Bitcoin mining is greener than gold, tourism and fashion industries
So a lot of people just don't understand, including the government, they don't understand truly how much energy
What is efficient and what is not, by comparative standards and across different industries
This was already the case when Elon started to poop on Bitcoin regarding the energy
A couple of years ago when they stopped accepting Bitcoin for Tesla
I think there were other reasons in the background that were much more plausible than the reason that he gave
Yeah, it's too wasteful and that's why he's not supporting Bitcoin anymore
One of the worst things I've heard him say
Sorry, it was one of what?
One of the worst things I've heard him say and the least educated things
He can be sometimes not ignorant but stick to an opinion on an uninformed thing
Yeah, but he got blackmailed in my opinion by his investors
Because they have this agenda of investing their funds in green companies and not in exactly the opposite
So if Tesla would become somehow non-green by putting the jacket of Bitcoin on
And so I think he was not, in my opinion, he's not really believing that stuff
He was just trying to not lose the favor of the investors, in my opinion
Yeah, I mean, look, Elon is still my favorite person on the planet
I think he's done more for the planet and that's outside of my family in Cindy, I always say
But he's done more for the planet than I think anyone else that I can think of
So he's amazing, but we make mistakes and I think his take on Bitcoin mining was a mistake
But he's also since not retracted but updated his stance recently, actually, just like a month ago
He was on a live spaces talking about that the Bitcoin community has kind of changed either the narrative
Or the actual consumption of electricity and I think it's a little both
I think because people were complaining about it, Bitcoin miners have made an extra effort to use sustainable energy
And then also sustainable energy is just like cheaper energy usually, or at least in certain areas
Because it's sometimes trapped and you can use it for Bitcoin mining
But he updated his stance on that and said it's not as much of a concern anymore, which is nice
And to add to what Penny said about these reports
So the most recent report I saw was that Bitcoin as a network uses 60% renewable energy
That's better energy, sustainable profile than generally Tesla's, the cars
Because they are just charging from grids mostly
And it's a better profile than like almost any other industry
And actually the world, the global average for sustainable energy use is 15%
So Bitcoin is four times more sustainable than the global average usage of electricity, which is pretty incredible
By the way, it looks like we've got some new speakers here
We've got Bark, we've got Breezy, hello, what's going on guys?
Can we test also the drugs because they were having some issues
I think it's cool on the...
Yeah, I'm here, you hear me?
Yeah, we can hear you a lot of people
Yeah, I got my new PSP, I'm rocking it
I think it is the greatest Dojiannals dog that's ever existed
I think it's the greatest doggy wizard that's ever existed
I go into the world and I do wizardly things
And I have some Hobbit friends, we take them on journeys
And we go into mountains and look for treasure
Yeah, just casual sheep wizard things
Let's call you Rockdowls now
I must say that your opinions seem a lot more magical than they were
You know, if you had said that a day ago, it wouldn't have had the same charm
Yo, anyone in the audience, all the Dojiannals dogs, throw up to 100
If you like Rock's new PFP, I'm gonna throw up to 100
Make sure you show them some love, that was super badass
Welcome to the Dojiannal dog fam, Rock
Super excited to have someone rocking a cool wizard like that one
Oh, Rock, have you made a tweet about it yet, dude?
No, I have not, but yeah, I can do that
You have to, man, it'll get blown up
So, it's funny because when it comes to these Dojiannals dogs or other NFT collections
You know, RDPs, which I absolutely love
And I'm not making a decision on which I love more
But I definitely have so much history with the real Dojpunks
I'll say that's still my favorite collection
But we'll see how I, over time, get to know the Dojiannals dogs community
But yeah, you guys seem super fun in the limited time we've had together
Really enjoying my time talking to you guys
But yeah, each collection
Imagine how incredible it would be if RDPs made Dojiannals on their C20 collection
That's what I'm saying, man
That would be something out of this world
And could compete with the popularity of the Dojiannal dogs, I think
Let's not get carried away
Considering the high-profile art, I think we're there
We could even work on a collection together if you guys, you know, want to do that
Oh, imagine, imagine a collab, a collab, like Friends or...
Oh, oh my God, I'm getting excited
And then maybe we could airdrop each other, you know, different pieces of each collection
To kind of piggyback off of each other and create a little bit of some FOMO and volume
And everything that comes along with it
One of the things I love about these different collections is like
When I was saying, you know, I think I have the best Dojiannals dog ever
Look, I haven't thoroughly looked through all 10,000
You know, I've probably looked at, I don't know, 500 or something
But like I truly believe, mine is my favorite one that I've seen
So it's crazy that, you know, I believe that
But, you know, I'm sure others like maybe Barc or J5 or Breezy or Drippy
Or let's look at it in the audience
We've got a bunch of... or Hay or Mopar or Roodog or Simon or Adam
Or Killer B or MC or Three-Droll or B
Wow, B, that one's pretty cool with the little spinny hat and the pink and colorful hoodie
But anyways, yeah, we've got corn, what, let's see, corn and reply and loaves and junky and savage and bow and wren
And yeah, boy, corn and dirt and rotten
And Nick and LFG and K9 and Aki and Parkour, we'll name some more later
But all these different people, I bet a lot of them think theirs is the best one
And theirs is because it's so personal, right? Like I love wizards
So I'm like, dude, fuck you guys, the wizards way cooler than all these
But, you know, I'm sure other people feel that theirs is the coolest, right?
I don't know, all I heard is fuck you
The beauty is in the eye of the beholder
There's people out there that think that their kid is the best looking for this beauty
Like my mom tells me I'm the most handsome guy on earth
But obviously, well, that might be true, that actually might be true
But no, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, man
So, everyone, that's the cool thing about art
And that's why I love art on Doge, that's why I love art on the blockchain
That's why I love, you know, I loved NFTs until...
Until I was, until I found out I was being sold a scam
And it was just a token linking to an image hosted somewhere else on the internet
But that's why I love art because I think, you know, it brings, you know,
A different level of connection to the blockchain, right?
Tokens are cool, but at the end of the day, you know, art takes it one step further
And allows you to form, you know, emotional connections with the blockchain
Which not for nothing, I think, is what brings a lot of people into the ecosystem
It brought me into the ecosystem, the art
And then I stayed for the other stuff, right?
I stayed for the other stuff
I'm like, oh wow, there's actually a lot of cool things we can do here
And the art is just one element of it
But now to see art on Doge and potentially some cool shit
Collaborations on Doge chain, it gets me even more excited
So awesome to see you with that, with the new wizard PFP
I know the community is super excited
If you drop a post, we'll be watching
I got noti's on, so we'll go there
We'll rate it up and we'll show you some magic
I know you're a wizard, but we'll show you what real magic looks like
Yeah, it took me weeks to decide on one, right?
And that kind of sucked in some ways because the price just, like, kept going up as I was looking
I think when you started considering them, there were, like, a couple of thousand Doge or something like that
And, yeah, how much are they?
They were free, actually, they were free when Breezy first said it
When Breezy first said it, yeah, they were free
It was, like, a day before, when we had the spaces
It was a day before, or a couple of days before the treatment
Or it was ongoing or something like that
And now the floor is, like, 12,000 Doge
Is that the first time you had heard of it, Rock?
Yeah, when Breezy mentioned them was the first time we had heard of him, yeah
And you guys all faded, huh?
I'm sure people in the community bought them
I didn't, though, yeah, I faded it
I mean, I don't buy very many things
I'm not, like, a first mover on things
I usually wait and see how things play out
But, yeah, if we would have listened to Breezy, we would all be
Whatever the floor is times two richer
I finally see your PFP now
And, yeah, it's pretty cool
Thank you, thank you, sir
Caveman, real Dogepunk, and...
For the Fudders and the Scammers and the...
The Pump Whale Telegram groups
Which have been really, really active lately
I need to delete, like, 10, 15 messages a day
Yeah, but, yeah, I'm excited about it
It took me weeks to choose one
And then, then, if anyone remembers from the last space
We were live on the space and I was like, ooh, I'm looking at these wizard ones
I didn't say the specific one
But I was like, I think I'm gonna get one of these wizard ones
And if anybody has a really unique wizard, let me know
And then I'm looking through and I see this one
And I'm DM-ing a bunch of Dogepunk's dogs
Or DM-ing me, hey, what do you think about this one?
What do you think about this one and this one?
And then, but the main one I wanted was this one
And then someone bought it, like, within, like, a half an hour of me saying that on this basis
And to be honest, I was kind of pissed off
I was like, dude, that's messed up
I'm like, I'm trying to get in the community, I'm trying to support
And I was like, someone just sniped me to just resell it or something
And luckily, actually, the guy reached out
So I was a little bent out of shape
I was a little bummed out
I was like, man, these snipers, you know
And then the guy actually got ahold of Bark
And Bark let me know, hey, the guy got it
And he says he's not trying to mark it up
And I talked to the guy and he's like, yeah, I don't need to mark it up at all
Just, you know, whatever I paid, you know, that would be cool or whatever
Or I think he might have even implied that he could just give it to me or something
I don't know, but I was like, oh, cool, that's really cool of you
And then Bark was super cool
And I'll even cover the difference of the floor
Like, you know, how much it went up since then
And I was like, well, I don't want Bark to cover
So I was like, oh, yeah, I'll pay you some extra
So I gave him a few thousand Doge extra for the trouble
So, yeah, I'm super stoked on this guy
He's really pumped on this one
Yeah, and Doge chain builders that have built collections
Previously, as we were saying earlier, like Jokreskis, RDPs
There's going to be some narrative there
To build either a new collection
Or an alternate collection on Doge nodes on the RC20
And then bridge it over on Doge chain
So we're encouraging all builders here
That are trying to do this
That there will be eventually some incentives
To bridge over Doge nodes on Doge chain
This is like some alpha there
So take it with a little bit of grain of salt
But there will be some tools and platforms
That will be enabled on Doge chain
That bring some more utility to your NFTs
Or you can bridge them over on Doge chain
In addition to fungibles that will get more utility
By being able to be plugged into the centralizing changes
The same will be available for the NFTs
Where you can, for example, use Mantra
And do a pawn shop with your or get lending
Use them as collateral, stuff like that
So new utility is coming for your Doge nodes as well
And yeah, keep that in mind
When thinking what's next for your project
You might want to think in a broader viewpoint
As using the Dogecoin blockchain as your starting point
And then coming back to Doge chain
There will be some great synergies there
Between the two blockchains
We're always trying to build more utility
For anything that happens on Dogecoin
Whether it's the Doge cryptocurrency itself
It's going to continue like that
Yeah, Trippie, you have your hand up
Yeah, so I actually hold a couple of RDPs
From like two, three years ago
And I think my biggest issue
Was always getting on MetaMask
Having to put in the right RPC
It never really felt like Doge
So I guess my question is
Has there been any talks about bringing some
Doge chain compatibility to a Doge wallet
What, the way it'll probably end up working in the end
Is that you'll be able to bridge your Dogeanals
DRC20s and your Doge chain NFTs back and forth
You'll definitely be able to bridge your
The plan is to bridge any of your Dogeanals
From Doge to Doge chain and back
Now the question though is
Is it possible to bridge something that was
Minted natively as an NFT on Doge chain
And bring that to Dogeanals?
Yeah, we need like Doge Labs
And our devs to respond to that type of question
But technically I think it's going to be
Really, really complicated to make that happen
At least in the real near future
First step is to get the indexing working on
Towards the EVM side and back it forward
So the initial step from Dogecoin to Doge chain
And Doge chain and those assets be able to bridge back
But original Doge chain assets to go mint
On Dogecoin could be possible
But I'm not sure if anybody's working on that currently
But it could be super interesting
But that's not the first phase
So what will more likely happen is
We'll encourage Doge chain NFT creators
To create collections and start them
And this might be, I don't know, it might or it might not
But it may be a situation where in the end
The way that it usually will play out
Is someone mints them on Doge
So they live on the Doge, you know, native chain forever
And then they'll bridge them to Doge chain to the functional layer
That's probably what will happen
But it would be cool if you could make, you know, Doge NFTs
Doge chain NFTs be able to become ordinals too
That would also be very cool
Well, could you create a locker essentially
Where people would just deposit their NFT into a locker
It would almost be like an LP pool
And then the contract owner or the dev
Can then send those NFTs to the burn wallet to burn them
And then re-mint them on the other side on Dogecoin
It's just, it's difficult
And then there's just like more complications
Like creating a standard that everyone will use
And different standards could create issues
And then how does it come back or all these things
But it's definitely possible
People have taken like board apes and put them on Ethereum
Now was it centralized or decentralized
I think it's more centralized at this point
So the hardest part is making that in a decentralized way
Because they're two separate chains
They don't have the same kind of systems
But as technology gets better, we'll definitely
It's just difficult to do in a decentralized way
When you bridge your Dogecoin over to Dogecoin
Is it like a soft staking mechanism?
Will the ordinal stay within my wallet
Or will it be on your guys' and your guys' wallet
Since it's a lock and mint function
We need to mint a new asset on the side
Which is an ERC or DoG20 asset
And your Doge that you sent which is inscripted
Will go into a cold storage wallet
Like we do with the Dogecoin currently
So it goes into a cold storage wallet
Which is controlled by Dogecoin
And you have the wrapped version on Dogecoin
On your EVM wallet address on the other side
It's like Bitcoin and wrapped Bitcoin
You could kind of think of it
The asset that's on Dogecoin gets destroyed
And the asset that you sent on the Dogecoin
Blockchain is returned to your wallet
And that cold storage wallet is secure
That's just my biggest concern, I guess
I mean, secure is like a spectrum
So I guess the best way to look at it is to look at the past
You know, what we've done
So the Doge wallet has been safe
Has had between $20 to $30 million in it
And has had no hacks or anything
I mean, I would say generally secure
But I wouldn't call any bridge like totally secure
I mean, the most secure bridges in the world
I would say is probably like the
The like ETH to ZK Rollup bridges
And there's not very many of them
Second after that would probably be the ETH to Optimistic Rollup bridges
So like with many things in the space
Everything is like a spectrum
But yeah, let's give some context here
Let's not forget that these
The two bridges that you just mentioned
ETH and ZK Rollups, they're the same technology
So they can communicate with each other directly
Unlike Dogecoin, which is not doing complete
And uses script, for example
And the logic of it is completely different than EVMs like Doge
There's no real practical way to create like
A trustless bridge between these two types of blockchain
Because maybe there is, but it hasn't been done yet
I think there are some teams that are working on this for Bitcoin
And that could be probably transcribed for Dogecoin as well in the future
But as of this moment, there is no trustless bridge
That connects Dogecoin with EVMs
Or Bitcoin with EVMs directly
There's always some kind of trusted custodian in between
But I think it's very important to understand that these are spectrums
Like rap Bitcoin by BitGo is like that is a true custodian
You have to do KYC and all that
Like they are holding the Bitcoin
Other versions are maybe more decentralized
Like this polyhedra bridge
There's definitely custodial pieces to it
And then there's like decentralized rollup pieces to it
But I think so the industry is moving more and more towards decentralized
And trustless and permissionless
The only bridges that I would say are really like
What I would call maybe like 99% decentralized
Would be like either the Polygon CKEVM bridge
Or the Arbitrum to Ethereum bridge
But yeah, like Ivan was saying
Those are going from ETH to an EthL2
Not a proof of work chain to a Turing complete EVM chain
So the technology is not fully there yet
So there is some trust involved in both the Rap Doge bridge
And the new Ordinals bridge
But I mean given that it's been almost two years
And tens of millions of dollars
And maybe even if you include all volume
Maybe over $100 million of Doge and with no issues
So I think, you know, it's relatively safe
But you know, you have to realize that there is risk to any of these things
Yeah, Drippy, you have your hand up
Yeah, I just wanted to throw out there
I mean, if you guys are really, really going into this yourselves
I would really look into Emblem Vault
They've been pretty much a champion of, you know, like this cross chain of compatibility
When it comes to inscriptions
And I was actually just...
You can look up Jake.XBT as well
He's pretty much, you know, like I guess they're community guy or whatever
I've had a lot of conversations with him about this sort of thing
But not regarding Doge, so
See, there's like, even if you're working in this space
You might not know everybody else that's doing stuff
And they could have already built some things that you're trying to build
So it's always really important that we try to, you know, all work together
And if there's cool technologies, yeah, let's share
And let's share our findings with each other
And then try to, you know, push this forward faster
If we all work together on this, you know
Doge chain and Doge Labs and Doge and those dogs
And maybe this Emblem people, then we'll be able to solve these problems a lot faster
That's drippy. Emblem Vault is what allows you to wrap Bitcoin ordinals into
Like an ETH, like an ETH, right?
I'm not 100% sure, I do know, however
Like, I mean, it kind of acts like a wallet, pretty much
Yeah, it's not, it's not ZK yet
So it's the same as we are actually currently doing
So it doesn't really change the narrative
I mean, we don't know that, we haven't dug into it
So maybe it does use some interesting technologies that we don't know about
I'm looking at it now, but it does seem like pretty much the same thing
As a custodial bridge, but for NFTs
Like, there are different types of bridges, for example
There's no bridges as well
Like, the multi-chain bridge, for example, that collapsed
And we don't know if the CCP took the money or the founders took the money
Anyway, it was really bad for...
Doge Chain was not that bad for Doge Chain, it was bad
But for example, it almost destroyed Phantom Network
Because most of the liquidity was drained
Like, tens of millions of dollars, if not hundreds
And how this worked was that
When you use the bridge, you send
assets from one chain, let's say, into a smart contract
They get locked into that smart contract
And new assets are minted on the receiver chain
Once the smart contract interacts
But somebody has control of the smart contract
And it was multi-chain that had keys
And they can actually drain the funds from the smart contract
Somebody got the hand of the keys
They just drained the funds on the east, east side
Which are the initial assets that go through the bridge
It's like somebody would drain the USDT that you cannot create
Since it's Tether that creates the USDT initially
So everything on the other chains became worthless
And that's what we were trying to avoid
Even this polyhedra bridge that we're bringing for
Polyhedra is actually integrating those chains
And it doesn't work like this
A level above regarding trustlessness
Instead of waiting for a person or a smart contract
Or an automation to validate
Or like centralized validators or something like that
If there's proof of the transaction
And take humans out of the interaction
And look, I want to jump in
Where we're talking about security
And we're talking about the Doge Labs browser extension
And how to do proper settings on it
And we're talking about all these risks
And we don't mean to scare people
But we want everyone to understand all these
But you really should in this space understand all the risks
That you're taking when you're in this space
So we're not trying to scare people
But we do want to educate people
And I know it's not like the Fun Height Party stuff
But it is important that we understand this stuff
Go ahead, Michael, what's up, man?
Yeah, I wasn't sure if you want to continue to talk about security
Because as an engineer, you know, I want to say a few things to that
Nothing bad, just to clarify
So, you know, whenever you have a bridge, it doesn't matter if it's ZK or not, yeah
There is some coordinator machine, a computer in between
It's a program that has permission to burn and mint, let's say, tokens, right?
Because when you bridge from one side to another
On one side, you have to burn, and on the other side, you have to mint
And then you go the other direction, it's the same, right?
And because the chains cannot talk to each other
And I have developed this stuff, okay?
So, like, this is the context I'm giving you
So, you know, hopefully...
You built, I think, the bridge for DAP Radar, right?
Because of multi-chain, we got fucked there, we lost funds in multi-chain
And so we had to build a new one, so I did that
And so, basically, there is a machine that says, like, a server or a program
That actually talks to both of these contracts on both the chains
And it tells one to burn and the other one to mint
Now, if it's done in a bad way, then a developer that works for that project
For example, a developer at DAP Radar, if we didn't do it right, it can simply mint himself
Familiar tokens on the other chain or whatever, you know?
Because it's just a computer, you can tell him to do whatever you want
Of course, you can do it in the right way
And that doesn't have anything to do with the chain itself
But with the security of this coordinator machine that is in between these chains, right?
The bridges, that's the bridge operation
So it's quite complex, that's why also Vitalik himself said that
Bridges can never be 100% secure, which is also why Rock explains it in this way
That it's 99%, something like that, because it can never be 100%
I mean, at least not with the technology we have today
And that's the truth, right? So just keep that in mind
Yeah, I would say, like, using rollups is the closest to 100% we've gotten
But it has limitations because it's not all chains
But there are definitely people building that
I mean, and we're doing a lot of research on this
Hey, we didn't talk, we got, like, I think kind of cut off on the macro stuff
But I'd like to go more to some of this macro stuff
There's some cool stuff happening
Yeah, Javier Millet said that
Unless any of the community, if you guys have questions about this stuff, by the way
You could leave them in the comments and we'll read them
But yeah, Javier Millet, new president of Argentina, libertarian
One of the first libertarian presidents of a real, like, non-third world nation in a long time
Some interesting stuff he's been doing
So people speculated that Javier would make Bitcoin legal tender
And he, because he had said great things about Bitcoin previously
And then he was talking about moving from the Argentinian, what is it, is it a peso, I think
Whatever it is, to U.S. dollars, right?
And he's trying to gain favor with the U.S. and, you know, whatever, NATO and everything
And so he got elected, he won by a landslide, they call it, you know, whatever
Not a landslide, but I think 56% of the total vote
He then said he's going to destroy all these government agencies
He's fired in, he's been in office 50 days
And he's fired 50,000 government employees
So he's shrunk their government by 50,000 in 50 days
That's 1,000 people a day he's firing
Pretty interesting, depending on your political stances
And if you like big government or you like small government
You can see that as a good thing or a bad thing
I generally think that's a great thing
But then he said something, I think just in the last day
He said, or he changed a policy and said
He did the same thing that President Bukele from El Salvador did
Which is they made no capital gains on Bitcoin
So you can go there, live there
And they're encouraging people to come
And I know in El Salvador they're highly encouraging people to come live there
And they're giving visas and stuff for entrepreneurs
And tech people and investors
And they're saying, please
No, no, crypto is not really
Bitcoin, but also, I mean, they're also tech
So they've gotten lower on taxes for tech companies
So I don't know, would you, could, would
I don't know if they're like maxis
They definitely have some maxis advising them
Like Max Keiser, the maxi
And he's like the advisor to Bukele on this stuff
And he definitely is going to try to push him to not allow any
You know what they would call shitcoins
No Doze, sorry, no Ethereum
No Polygon, no Quick, no DC
But I don't know if that's his actual stance
But that's what Max Keiser is saying, like Bitcoin-only stuff
But they said tech companies
So how you could argue, if it's tech companies
Then how could they turn away a Doge
How could they turn away, you know, a Doge company
Or, you know, any Ethereum stuff
I don't see how they could turn it away
Because it's obviously tech, even if it's not Bitcoin
Because it's Bitcoin and tech companies
Mille, yeah, by doing no capital gains on Bitcoin
They're saying, look, come here, buy Bitcoin, hold Bitcoin
And if it goes to a million dollars, cool
You're rich and you don't pay us any taxes
Come live here, come spend your money here
Well, yeah, it's quite clever
Because you're going to spend, you know, obviously
For your lifestyle, if Bitcoin has a million dollars
You're going to spend money in the country
Which is going to help, you know, their labor market
You're going to spend taxes
You're going to pay taxes in other ways
Like indirect taxes, for example, you know
Like value-added tax on food and so on
And so, yeah, you're going to contribute to the economy
Definitely, even though that's the tax cut
In the purest sense, obviously
And then just on the tech company thing
I think that's a great point
Like, you know, FinTech companies are massive
They're like a huge part of tech companies
I think, you know, doing that kind of
He's saying that he's opened the door to crypto
In a sense, you know, because those two things work really well together
And then, you know, tech companies as well
So that's really interesting
And I think if anybody hasn't watched
Havi MLA's speech at the WEF
Somebody did a great job of translating it into English
And using AI to recreate what Havi MLA's voice would be like
If he was speaking the speech in English
Which was a really cool thing to do
And, you know, it shows how advanced the sort of AI voice tech is getting
Because it sounded really seamless when I watched it anyway
And I would definitely urge anybody to go and watch that
It's probably one of the most powerful speeches I've ever heard by a world leader
And so I would definitely recommend that
Davos too, like that was crazy
He was basically telling a bunch of like elites
Like that they were the problem in the world
Like he was on a stage with all these elites
You know, to go to this, you have to pay like 40,000
Even if you're invited and you're a big person in the world
You got to pay $40,000 to come to speak at the Savannah, right?
But, you know, this is definitely the elites
And he got up on stage and I don't know if they knew he was going to say this stuff
But he basically said governments are like a parasite on their citizenry
And that elites have like taken over the world
And are like hurting the common man and all this crazy stuff
And I was just like I was watching it with my jaw just drop
Like holy shit, he just got on stage and just like
And all these people were like just watching and they weren't even
They weren't booing or anything
I think even some people were clapping and people were just like wow
This guy's really just telling the truth about you know
Some of the stuff that a lot of these elites have been doing
So yeah, that was really really interesting to see
And we're seeing that a lot
And we're seeing it on the left, we're seeing it on the right
All over the world people are saying hey
We don't trust the government, we don't trust these elites
Too many like big tech companies are harvesting our data
And you know we have no privacy, the government is surveilling us
Everyone's being taxed to death and people don't trust it anymore
So I think we're going to see a big reckoning, a big pendulum swing
You're going to see a lot more of these like anti-government politicians
Which is very interesting
Or at least maybe not anti-government but you know
Wanting smaller government or at least in the minimum less corruption
Man I hope the US doesn't go there and create some freedom
Because it's like the running gag of when the US doesn't like something
Like the IMF or you know you're not using our dollars
You're not taking any loans from us because you're using crypto
Oh you don't want the central bank either
Fuck right, stuff like that
Oh you don't like how the west is dominating or you know kind of yeah
Usually the US goes and creates freedom
That's like the official title
Of course the idea is to get rid of these people that create this new world order
Here I'll illustrate a picture that you may be describing
It's like there's maybe a meme where they show like
Yeah you know we're bringing freedom to this country
And then it just shows like you know a city just demolished
And some kids on the ground
I think the joke was like there was some oil
There was some oil and then
So I found some oil and then you see some America
Like a person like it says US
I'm gonna go there and create some freedom
Look I love America by the way I think it's the greatest country on the planet
I want to be clear about that
But yeah there's plenty of corruption and there's too much war and I'm not a fan
No but honestly like he's super cool
I love the guy because he's honest
And he's fighting the fight that
Like I think it's the zeitgeist that he's also hitting perfectly
It's just that you know he's so radical
Doing everything at once right
Like wants to get rid of central banks
Wants to get rid of, wants to allow crypto
Wants to you know eradicate a lot of government
But usually you get killed for something like that okay
I mean I hope he survives it because I really like what he's doing
But also I'm a bit afraid of his health you know what I'm saying
Because he's pissing a lot of people off that have a lot of power
Well he did something very smart
When he went on this campaign
He said we want to align with the US
And we want to make the US dollar our currency
We want to dollarize and we want to get rid of our currency
We want to be you know we want to strengthen relationships with the US
So even if the US didn't like some of the things he was saying
And other elites might not
If you make such a strong stance to ally with the US
Which means they're taxing your people through inflation
So now he's basically saying hey we are willing to pay the US
If the US will like kind of protect us
And let us do what we want here to like
Oh I didn't know that he actually embraces the dollar in my bed
Okay yeah that's a good move actually
That creates less enemies
So did you hear that FTX is planning to
Apparently repay its customers in full
They're repaying everybody's deposits in full
But a Bitcoin price of 18k
It's not in full what the hell?
Well technically it is right
Because if you add 10 Bitcoin
You're going to get the value of 10 Bitcoin back
But you're going to get it back at
How about getting the 10 Bitcoin back
In Bitcoin what the hell?
I mean like the in between would be
Maybe not in full like let's say
I don't know when it collapsed
But like let's say the price collapsed
But if the price collapsed at 60k
And now you're saying oh we're going to give you 18k
Well how about just give us what it is today at 43k
That would be to make the most like
But I think it actually collapsed maybe
So reading between the lines a little bit
The reason they've been able to say they can repay
Credit as in full is because they've been
Selling you know they held a load of grayscale
Shares and stuff which obviously have gone up
With the price of Bitcoin
Oh and the premium got the gap
And obviously those shares have been
Pretty illiquid until you know like
The recent recent stuff with the ETFs
And all that kind of stuff so
Essentially they've been able to
Finally exit that position
And then that's kind of repaid
The the deficit that they had essentially
Well that's what I've heard anyway
But it's kind of interesting so
If you was if you was trading FTX
The kind of lawsuit that's going on there
You might be getting some good news
But also kind of bad news
Because you missed out on a whole year of
I guess it's positive that you're not making a loss
I was trained to make a loss
That's bullshit but yeah that's at least
I mean look at some point
You're losing an unrealized gain
You're not in an actual loss right
No I was just going to say to frame it
This is just before FTX collapsed
In November of 2022 I think
And then you'll get you know
You'll probably get 100k back
Wait why would you get 100k back
At like probably 40 to something k then
20k or 16k or something like that
Yeah that's the price they wanted right
I think FTX actually pushed it under
It was around there anyway so
So you're getting what you would have got
Yeah if you would have cashed out on the day
You know a year of unrealized
Crypto gains essentially that
But weren't they the ones who actually
Tanked the Bitcoin price to begin with
So now they want to refund people
Back at and peg it to that same price
Or it could have just been like
The market reacting to the news right
We don't know what was going on
Internally at the time but
I mean it's good news right
If you're a creditor there
And you were screwed over by the whole thing
It's really positive for you
Because you're going to get some
Some funds back in the future I imagine
But also it's kind of bittersweet
Because you know if you would have held
In any other exchange that didn't collapse
Or if you would have just held self custody
That there was like OTC options
For selling FTX accounts and claims
And I don't know what happened with that
Those were changing hands for like
So it's interesting to see like
How that's played out because
People buying those OTC accounts
Like with the current price
They're going to be refunded at
Less than the current price
So the people who bought those OTC accounts
Speculate and would have probably
So that's kind of interesting as well
It depends on what they bought them for
He had a account with like
I want to say he got like
That it was worth or something
Has more than doubled since then
So it's kind of interesting
Like the game theory there
But I mean the positive side is
You know the market's finally
Dealt with that whole situation
And the lawsuits and stuff
So that's really positive right
Of the end of the bear market
As we prepare for the bull cycle
You need to get rid of all this stuff
That's a really positive thing
The waste from the destroyed companies
But it's definitely like positive
From a market efficiency point of view
That that's getting resolved
Well I just hope people learn
From these things that happened right
And often times people don't
Is a good lesson for everyone listening
But when the bull market comes again
Learn something from the previous lessons
And the best way to do that is
You don't have to experience lessons yourself
I always wanted to experience things myself
And then if I got in trouble for it
Then I would not do it again right
Invest money and trust someone
And then they would screw me over
Or I'd lend someone money
And then they'd screw me over
It took all those lessons for me to learn
But what I started figuring out
You don't need to go through these lessons yourself
Information on the internet
That you can learn mistakes
Stupid people don't learn from their mistakes
And I'm just making this up right now
Smart people learn from their mistakes
Learn from others' mistakes
Yeah, researching before you get
For example, knock on wood
I've learned from other people's mistakes
Not to get scammed in the crypto world
Even though I'm in it like since 2011
And fortunately I've always been like super paranoid
That I've never gotten like
Somebody that managed to steal my data
Or make me click on a stupid link
This is because I've seen it happen to so many people
And I've managed to avoid it
You never know what's going to happen
I might fall for an elaborate scam
They have been becoming more and more elaborate
Rock, learning from other people's mistakes
Is even more efficient than learning from your own
And there's so many books you could read
And it's not just about crypto
Things like Art of War by Sun Tzu
And like there's an infinite amount of
I think books are so important
If you're not that into books
Well, you could do audio books
But if you're not into that
There's every way you want to digest information
Read books and learn from others' mistakes
It's not famous, same, right?
Well, it's like those who don't learn
The lessons of history are doomed to repeat it
And I know you read a lot, Jack
A lot more when I was younger
I can read like 10, 15 pages
Honestly, my reading amount went through the roof
When I started using Audible
And this is going to sound like a plug for Audible
I'm not sponsored by them
I have no offense to that company
If you've got a busy life
And like we all have in the modern world
You're working all the time
You're trying to work out
And all that kind of stuff
Audible is like the best tool for efficiency
You want to constantly be learning stuff
But you're always like in the middle of a million things
So like listening to an audio book
While you're doing the dishes
While you're preparing a meal
And in three of those hours
And you're also doing other things
And that's super efficient
And if you get used to Audible
Just like you can get used to reading quickly
You can also increase the speed
So the Audible book can be listened to
Or whatever you're comfortable with
Instead of it being six hours
Now it's seven and a half hours
Which is just amazing returns on your time
And if you're learning something
That's really valuable for your work life
That's going to be valuable for your work life
One and a half times faster than normal
Super efficient use of time
Either your top three books in general
People could learn some lessons from
Be doomed to repeat history
I've got so many good books
Which is pretty interesting
I would recommend everybody
Is the sovereign individual
Actually written in the 90s
With blockchain technology
That talks about the future
Recommend that definitely
Safedene's an amazing writer
If you listen to any of his
That's the number one book
That is the first book you should read
The first book you should read
With some of his stances on
Should be too involved in it
You should understand about
To wake people up to crypto
It's a great foundational piece
Like for people that have
I've read a lot of this stuff
Like maybe they come from
They've been into Austrian
Economics and that for a while
Like the start of the book
Because it gets into like
That have been used as money
And all this kind of stuff
Like you'll be very familiar with
Like any of Ray Dalio's works
Five decades of investing
And so that's really valuable
But I could go on and on man
For people in this space right now
Yeah the Bitcoin standard
The first like five chapters
Don't even talk about Bitcoin
The foundation that you need to understand
Super important to understand
Why Bitcoin is so powerful
These people don't understand
Why money is worth anything
Yeah most of that stuff applies to Doge
Most of the Bitcoin standard
I mean you could have written it as the Doge standard
Would really apply to Doge as well
But not much else in the industry
I would say the most decentralized
I won't say a full stance
But like between Ethereum and Doge
If you put a gun to my head
I would probably say that Doge is more decentralized
But for different reasons right
So it's really interesting that
So like in my opinion the reason Doge
So obviously Bitcoin was decentralized
Because nobody cared about magical internet money
And it changed hands for free for like
You know three or four years
Before people started establishing a price
But Doge is more decentralized
Than most crypto currencies
Because everybody thought it was a stupid joke coin
And nobody took it seriously for a long time
And while it still is a joke coin
The kind of like weird thing that's emerged out of this
Is now it's one of the most decentralized crypto currencies
Because nobody took it seriously for so long
And he was able to mine it in the same way that you mine Bitcoin
By a roundabout silly route
It ended up one of the most decentralized crypto currencies
That and obviously very publicly
The founders sold all their coins
Because the fact that it survived
And they didn't get those coins in a pre-mine
But this is where like you know
The decentralization emerged out of the meme
In a way that with Bitcoin
It didn't, it was decentralized from the start
It was just that nobody cared about crypto
Because it didn't exist before Bitcoin
So yeah, it's very interesting
But I'd probably agree with you about Doge being more decentralized than ETH
By the way, not on a per wallet basis
Because you can go on like you know
Like analytic sites and see like these massive wallets
But it's usually like Robin Hood central wallet
So not on a per wallet basis maybe
But probably in the number of users
And the way that they interact on a daily basis
Mainly because there's not a great deal that you can do with Doge
So whereas ETH is used for all kinds of things
Yeah, it's not Doge isn't
The network isn't fought over in the same way
And so we're changing that
You can actually do things with your Doge
And now there's way more holders of Doge
I mean just on Doge chain
Over time how many wallets we've had
Because you know some of them are like
You know duplicate wallets or things like that
There's like 11 million wallets
At least a million of those would be real
And so that's a million people holding Doge
How many people are holding Doge
Because they got into Ordinals
Maybe the number's not massive yet
Rock what's your take on OKX
Announcing Doge-Nal's implementation this week
We had an OKX speaker on the Polygon space
Hey maybe I can get him on this space
Let me put some messages in
But yeah I mean that's super cool
I think they're very smart
We're doing the same thing
We think it's going to be big
And we're trying to get involved
And then you have Magic Eden kind of like that little
That maybe they're getting involved in
So I think the smart people
Are the ones who get involved early in this
Like maybe Doge-Nal's fails
I'm going to take the asymmetrical bet that it doesn't
And that it's going to get bigger and bigger
And I think Bitcoin Ordinals too
But I think a lot of people are discounting it
I think people are starting to see that it's real
Most people I ask honestly don't even know that they exist
So like you know I've been asking a bunch of friends recently
Like oh you know about Doge-Nal's
What do you think about Doge-Nal's
And I'm like you know like Bitcoin Ordinals but for Doge
And a lot of people don't even know frankly
I think most of the people I'm asking don't know
So I think that's a good thing though
That means we have like plenty of people to like win over
That means we're still early
Yeah and there honestly aren't that many projects
Launching on Bitcoin Ordinals right now
Because it's so expensive to inscribe over there
So all those people that can't afford the fees over
And Bitcoin Ordinals are going to come right over here
We full on need to be marketing to Bitcoin Ordinals community
And showing them that they can do all that over here
I've always held this kind of belief or idea that you know
Dogecoin and Ordinals or Doge-Nals could essentially be used as a
The internet as we see it now or the new internet that we're trying to build in web 3
As it kind of being the internet's repository of data
Because if you can inscribe things directly on a Dogecoin
And have it live on chain
You know data can be inscribed in many different ways
It could be audio, it could be video, it could be an image
We're starting to see actual games being run on Doge-Nals themselves
Like they recently released the Doom
And I'm sure a lot more emulators and things of that nature could be inscribed
So that's where I see it kind of like heading from here on out
And in a completely decentralized fashion at that
I'm just thinking like 10 years
You know a 10 year projection from now
And I'm super excited about them
And then I see Dogecoin is acting as a layer too
To bridge those Doge-Nals over
To make them Ethereum smart contract capable
And to provide further utility and enhancements to them
To bridge them over to different chains
So like I'm super excited
And that's where I see kind of the future heading
And I agree with you Rock
Like there's a lot of similarities between Bitcoin and Dogecoin
And there should be because they're forks essentially of one another are they not
So they're borrowing the same kind of concepts and tech
And they have the same fundamentals except for a couple of attributes that are changed between the two
Like for instance Dogecoin is inflationary
In the sense that you can mine so many extra per year
But that just only strengthens the narrative of it being used as a potential repository for data in the future
Because if we can mine more of those coins over time
As you know like storage space is always ever increasing as well
And soon we'll have different things inscribed on the chain
Completely decentralized like people should be putting their wills
Their marriage certificates, titles and deeds
There's a lot of things that can be done directly on a blockchain
That like I'm super excited for
And I just see a lot of different industries employing in the future
So that's why I want to get involved in Web3 more
That's where I see things heading
And I'm just happy to be alive and well to live and breathe it right now
At this juncture and at this point in of history
And to be at this point in time and to be part of its history
So that's what I'm super bullish for
Sorry I just wanted to get that out
Well what these dogeanals and ordinals do is they immortalize information on the internet
Which that wasn't the case before
There was nothing on the internet that was immortal
It could be deleted off of a server
This is the first time we ever have had something that can be truly immortalized
So that's a really important thing
So yeah, definitely that you just brought up a cool concept
When Cindy and I get married
Definitely need to put it on the blockchain for sure
As an ordinal or as a dogeanal or as both
But yeah, because why would you want to have your marriage certificate somewhere
That could be like deleted or hacked or something
Like immortalized on the blockchain
If it doesn't last, are you going to put the divorce certificate on the blockchain as well?
Yo Rock, you can actually
I'm just kidding man, I'm just kidding
You can actually inscribe directly in the OKX app
Instead of a pre-note, you should get her to sign a smart contract
Wait, Breezy, you can make in descriptions on OKX's website on their sex
I'm going to reach out to them because this could be really cool
Maybe we could partner because
QuickSwap is going to be the main decks on their new chain
Their X1 chain, which is built using Polygon CDK
Which will be married to DogeChain through the ZK bridges
And then maybe we can do some kind of partnership with where their
Let's see, I don't know, there's a lot of things we could do there
We could have dogeanals come through our bridge either to DogeChain or the X1
Ideally, we would want them to come through DogeChain and then float to the rest of the EVM world
But we want us to be the gateway
But yeah, there's a lot we could do there, I'll talk to them about it
Man, I can't believe I didn't ask them, they were just on our spaces like two hours ago on Polygon
Yeah, I know Bark has been in talks with them as well
Yeah, any word from that Bark, anything you can tell us about OKX, this new dogeanals there?
Bark, you're muted if you're speaking or if you're having technical difficulties
Hey, sorry, I'm at the appointment right now, doctor appointment
No worries, everything's good, I'm just hanging up my volume
Yeah, no, it's cool, bro, we're talking to them right now, but definitely just introductory rock
We got to blow this up, a lot of cool collab opportunities
Yeah, I'll definitely, if I see any of you guys tweet about it or like, we should definitely amplify this
This is a really big deal, this is a huge deal
Yeah, they were engaging with Bark's tweets yesterday, shouting the follow and everything, so they see us for sure
Wow, that's so cool that they're so early to that
It's smart of them, it shows they're good business people
Because it's very early for dogeanals to take a stance so early
I mean, there's only, you know, what, 80 million market cap for all of dogeanals
And they're enabling it and enabling inscriptions that early
I mean, you could see a huge flood of liquidity
I mean, they're the third largest exchange in the world by spot volume
This is a serious thing, so that's
I think that for Asians, it's the number one
Binance is really getting the numbers globally
Coinbase is getting it from the US
And, OK, it's like the major Asian exchange for the eastern part of the world, of the globe
By the way, if anybody else from the audience, anyone from the community wants to come up
Go ahead and request and we can bring some people up
We're going to wrap it up here pretty soon
But we'll read some comments, we'll do some shout outs
And we'll bring up some community members here at the end
But go ahead, Dojmao, you've got your hand up, what's up?
What up, Pam? Great space, dude
Yeah, so I just wanted to drop another dope-ass book that a lot of people should read
And that's 1984 by George Orwell
It literally, literally shows the exact replica of our society currently
And if you haven't read it, you need to take the time to invest a little bit of your life into reading that book
Because I'm going to tell you what, that book will literally explain exactly why your life is the way it fucking is
And the way society currently is, and how it will be in the future
No bullshit, that's just pure honesty
So check it out, enlighten yourself, learn a little bit, and let's go
Yeah, that's a really good one
You know, a lot of the stuff we talk about here, where we're talking about distrust in the government
You could basically learn all about it from reading George Orwell's 1984, for sure
Sometimes these spaces become a 1984, like, explainer video
Do you know, I'll just, play devil's advocate for that
Has anybody here read Brave New World?
Well, multiple times, just to fill you guys in
Brave New World is a much more plausible, I think, version of a dystopian future
Where, instead of being controlled by brute force and tyrannical government, as they are in 1984
The sort of, you know, Soviet regime gone mad, it's depicted in 1984
Instead, the people in Brave New World are controlled with vices and pleasure and drugs
And I think that that much more closely mirrors the society that we're developing into
Which is where people are still very much controlled in the same way that they are in 1984
But instead, they don't know they're controlled, and they're just distracted and numb, basically
And I think that's much more realistic
It's also a bit more terrifying, because you could see that easily happening
In a way that, you know, a tyrannical government people would resist
But instead, if the government, it seems like the government is just trying to keep you happy and content
Then, who would resist that?
Yeah, what's the, why not, why not actually have a government that actually wants to keep you happy for once
Instead of wanting to exploit you to the bone
Even if they're lying to you, you know, you're happy, everything is good
But that control system is a lot more interesting
I think that's the one that the world controllers, if you want to use a reference from Brave New World
What they're leaning into, right, the WEF, the world controllers, they're leaning into the pleasure model
Which is that everybody has the things that they want
They get, you know, like, you know, fast food
And they get dopamine on social media, and they get gaming
And all this kind of stuff, and they get, you know, universal basic income
And they get all kinds of stuff
And then, in that way, that you don't pursue your real goals
And you don't, you know, go after the things that matter in life
And you don't try and challenge the status quo
We're still not there, though, I think
They're not trying to actively keep people happy
They could manipulate a large portion of the population
Global population with, as you said, like video games
Recreational drugs, music, music and stuff
And just give them stuff that they like
So that they do what you want
We're kind of doing it ourselves, in some ways, through shorts
I think shorts are really bad
Like, watching TikTok is super bad for your brain
And it, you know, you condition your brain not to focus for more than, like, 30 seconds on a thing
And when you need to focus on something more than 30 seconds on a thing like when you work or something like that
You need, like, a certain time for adaptation before you can actually focus for more than
Bro, when you said that earlier, you can't move more than 15 pages
No, that's because of short-term dopamine, man
No, that's because I fall asleep
Yeah, but that's why you're falling asleep
Like, shorts give you such rapid dopamine that a book is slow
A book is character development
But you're too used to, I'm seeing it in a lot of aspects
Bro, I fall asleep in front of TikTok as well
Like, 10 minutes in it is the same
It's just that I'm tired and I'm old
You don't have to give the exact date if you don't want to
You know the worst part about it is, as well
This, like, military-grade weaponized algorithm gives you exactly what you want to see
Over and over again, in abundance
And so, whatever that is for you
It just gives you 15-second clips of exactly what your brain wants over and over again
So it's like a mix of Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan and some other stuff
But that's dead annoying because your brain isn't capable of saying
Okay, I don't want to see this right now while I'm trying to do this task or whatever
And the best way to, the only way, in fact, I think, to win that game is just not play it
So, like, delete the app, right? Don't play the game
It's like drugs or alcohol, you know
This is why cocaine is dangerous for people because you get some, you feel great
And then you want more 10 minutes later
And then you want more 10 minutes later
And same with alcohol, you know
I don't have that issue with cocaine, but I don't do cocaine
But, like, alcohol, I definitely am the type that wants to keep the party going
Once I have a beer, then maybe I want another beer, then maybe I want another
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not, like, drinking like crazy
I drink, on average, like, two to six beers depending on, you know, if we're at a concert or something
But I definitely, we're humans
And, you know, you get some dope meat and then you want some more
And that's what these suits do
It's also some, there's some genetics involved
Some people are, like, more inclined to become alcoholics or addicts
Than others on how your brain connects and how it actually accepts dopamine and creates it
I heard a good analogy for alcohol, for example
If you can think of alcohol like a sandwich
Because when you, today, you might want a sandwich
But tomorrow, you might not want the same sandwich, you know
As an alcoholic or a dry addict, if you're drinking one beer
You'd like two, three, four, five beers
You're not gonna eat five sandwiches unless you're, like
Morbidly obese and weigh 500 pounds or something like that
But you're not going to eat them, again, the same sandwiches tomorrow
And five of them, and the day after, and the day after, and the day after
So, the way that your brain is wired
For some people, some people think of alcohol
Like, they can have fun today with it
And tomorrow, they don't need to
It doesn't, like, wire, their brain doesn't require that dopamine that alcohol provides
And others, they become alcoholics because that's all they think of
They need that drink or they need that fix, you know
But hard drugs is different
Hard drugs is different because they're addictive on a different level as well
But for alcohol, you know, you can, it's legal
Although I think it should be more controlled, in my opinion
There's different kinds of alcoholics, right?
I used to think that I was an alcoholic when I was young
My father was an alcoholic
And then ironically, was hit and killed by a drunk driver when he was sober for years
But I used to think I was an alcoholic when I was younger
Because I would, like, you know, I was in a fraternity
And I would party on the weekends and drink a lot when I would drink
But I never would drink like during the week
Never in my life have I ever, like, had a craving
Oh, I want a beer on, well, maybe I've thought about it
But I don't actually drink on a weekday usually
But when I do drink, I like to drink a lot
Or I used to when I was younger
Now, I don't know, maybe Cindy's just tamed me a bit
But I don't know, I guess you could kind of outgrow it, too
Where I still love alcohol, don't get me wrong
But I don't, like, it's just
I don't go to the level I used to
I guess it helps that I stopped drinking hard alcohol
I only drink beer, and you can't really get that drunk from beer
You know, because you get too old
The conversation went into a weird, weird direction
It started with Brave New World
And now we are talking about alcoholics and everything
Okay, Brave New World, though
One that came to my mind while you were explaining it
Has anyone read The Giver?
It's like a dystopian, it's like a world
Where they're trying to create, like, order
They kind of, like, remove people's ability to see, like, color
And have too much emotion
And there's, yeah, they have a concept called sameness
Everybody should, like, be kind of the same
And people shouldn't stand out
You don't want to be, like, too unique
And then you find out, like, halfway or more
Through the book, or towards the end
The kid is starting to find out
The kid's supposed to be the receiver of the memories
Of the time before the sameness
So he's supposed to, like, keep all these memories
Because people aren't supposed to know these memories
Of what things were like before
But then he sees that they start, like, if there's babies
And, like, one is too unique, they'll just kill the baby
But did anyone ever see The Giver?
It's a movie, right? Also?
Yeah, they did make a movie out of it, actually
Yeah, I thought the movie was really good, yeah
I might have to watch that again
Because I, yeah, my attention span for books isn't as good
I do love audiobooks, though
Jack was so on point with that
Yeah, just, I got to the point
Now, I haven't been going to the gym as much
So it's not as good anymore
But when I was going to the gym, you know, very consistently
I got to the point where I was going through
Four or five audiobooks a month
Because every time I went to the gym, that was my rule
I only listened to audiobooks at the gym
And, you know, I could get through easily four, sometimes six books in a month
I mean, and some of these were, you know, large books
Yeah, Audible is really an awesome hack
If you can't find yourself, like, reading real books
Audible is a great alternative
And you can double your time, like Jack said, you know
If you spend three hours reading a book
Well, okay, you're reading three hours reading a book
If you spend three hours at the gym, that's three hours at the gym
If you do both, it's kind of like you got six hours
Yeah, and some people actually retain information a lot better
Like, it all depends on what kind of a learner you are
I know for me, I had, when I was younger, I had a little bit of a learning disability
And it was later found that
I still kind of do, but, like, what I'll say, though, is that
Like, after I went through a battery of tests, because I had to go into this whole facility and everything
And they tested me and the IQ and all this and that
And came to the conclusion that I was more of an auditory learner
So for me, I have kind of this ability where I'm able to almost frame things back in my mind
In terms of, like, audio responses, almost like
People having photographic memory, only I do it with audio
So I personally, I learn a lot better through spoken word and through audio
Well, hence why we see you on all Twitter spaces
And same with me, man, I'm definitely more an audible learner
I like to talk, I like to listen, that's how I like to learn
Most of my learning is, like, listening to YouTube in the background while I'm doing things
Yeah, one of the good tests that you can actually conduct on yourself or get somebody to help you out
To see if you're more of an auditory learner or not is if you're having a conversation with somebody
And if they track your eye movements, and while you're being spoken to
Or you're trying to retain information, if you are constantly moving your eyes from left to right
While the person is speaking, that's usually indicative that you're more of an auditory learner
You're trying to process that information, and you're actually storing that information in a little drawer in your mind
So that you can come back to it at another point
But, yeah, that's just one of the tricks that they taught me
Myself, as recently, for example, diagnosed ADHD
A lot of the stuff that I used to have trouble with in my life when I was younger
Actually came, like, was, ah, that's why, you know
For example, like, getting nervous when you're concentrating on something somebody else is trying to speak
Not being able to do one thing at a time, you're doing, like, ten things at a time
It's like a superpower, don't get me wrong
But people don't understand this, it's not the standard
And it just doesn't work for them like that, and they don't expect, like, teachers
And they don't expect you to perform in the way you do
Because you're doing it in a different way
And, yeah, these types of ways that you learn and you accept knowledge
For example, if you're a reader, I'm a reader, for example
I learn by reading, I read really fast
And I absorb the information like that
Through hearing, for example, I don't because I'm a visual
If I hear it, I will forget about it
Like, if I don't take notes of something, I will forget completely about it
In, like, ten minutes because my attention will be drawn by something else
And so this hyperfocus comes when I read
And it's interesting to see that there are people on the other side of the spectrum
That were completely different than from what I experienced in my life
An interesting fact, for example, my wife doesn't have an inner voice
I have never understood how this is possible
What does that mean, you think?
That means that people don't talk to themselves when they think
They don't talk to themselves, they don't talk to themselves when they stop talking
For example, when I'm thinking about something, somebody's talking in my head
They see images instead, they don't talk to themselves
No, no, no, no, this is the real thing
You know about the inner voice thing
And then there's a joke, right, that people don't have inner voices at NPCs
They just run the script, right
I'll tell this to my wife
I have a major problem with this too
I constantly have conversations or discourse in my own head
When I'm assessing a problem or I'm thinking about a solution
I'm having a conversation with myself and weighing out the different outcomes
Even being adversarial to myself, all within my head
I ask people this question too, whether they do it as well or not
Whether this is normal or not
I seem to over-utilize it to the point where it drives me a little bit insane or mad
That's what kind of wears me personally down throughout the day
When I'm trying to retain a lot of different information
Having to make so many different decisions
You're arguing with yourself
Yeah, and then I'm just arguing with myself
But in the end, it's usually the outcome is amazing
It's just your open-minded too
But I've never heard of somebody not having an inner voice either
And I guess this is what you get when you come to the Doge Chain Spaces, right?
You get a little bit of help with your ADHD
You know, your ideal political stuff
You get some Doge Chain updates
And you get a lot of great PFPs
I think we can slowly start wrapping it up, by the way
I think we didn't give any airtime to the drug huskies, by the way
We wanted to discuss more about the Doge Chain and stuff
Before we wrap up, let's talk a little bit with drug huskies
Penny also has an update about RDPs
So let's get more focused here before we finish
Over to you then, drug clusters
Hey guys, so yeah, we're an NFT collection on Doge Chain, of course
And we also have our own token that is listed on QuickSwap
And yeah, so we had some problems a couple of months ago
With one of our devs that took some money away from us
From a locker, an NFT locker
And we got that locker up again
There were still funds in it
And people who had TDH in that locker, they can now get them out
Go to the drug huskies group
The link is there to the site to withdraw your TDH
And that's a part of our refund plan that's already done
So there will be a part two also
But we are still working on that
And yeah, maybe one day, guys, ordinal guys, we will work together
You'll never know, we're in that group with other Doge Chain projects
And you guys, so we're open to speak a bit
Sorry guys, I have a little bit of some cold
I'm glad your community was able to get that locker back
Yeah, that's absolutely great
And that guy, he just finished his studies
And he really did a great job
Yeah, I was able to recover my TDH the other day
And I was surprised it was still there
And just totally what you guys have been through
And what you've done for the community to date
And what you continue to do for the community is just
You know, everybody's got to start taking notes here
Yeah, it's been a hard year
Our first year of existence
But hey, we're still here
And we're building together with Geyser
We're leading this project now
And we're trying to make the best of it with limited funds
But we're still here, guys
You guys are definitely, oh geez, at this point on Doge Chain
So I don't have to worry about that if I'm just a normal TDH holder
I just, I never staked mine or anything
I just bought it and I just have it in a wallet
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to worry
It was an NFT locker or you staked your TDH
And you got an NFT as a reward
And yeah, so the rewards are not available anymore
But you can still get your TDH out
But if you're a holder, you don't have to be afraid of anything
There's no problem for you
Awesome, thanks for the update
I'm glad to see you guys got that, that's really cool
Always good to hear these community wins
Penny, you had something to update about RDPs?
Yeah, so we got a super simple giveaway that I encourage everybody to take part in
All you got to do is just like the post, tag somebody that you love with a couple words of appreciation
From our main account, which is at reallabs underscore one on X
And we'll be giving away a couple of RDPs as well as RSPs which are on Shiberium
So there's two collections actually, there's RDPs
Which were 10,000 NFT collection on Doge Chain
And then there's a 11,111 piece collection on Shiberium
And for those that don't know much about either collection
Both collections were minted out
I believe the Doge Chain RDP collection was minted out within 22 hours
And the Real Shiba Punks collection was minted out within 4 hours
And yeah, you can check them both out
And we actually airdropped over 50% of the supply of Real Shiba Punks to RDPs
So for every individual who held one RDP, they got one RSP
And then we did an additional airdropped where if they held two RDPs, they would get an additional RSP
I have more than one wallet, but I think in one of my wallets I have at least a couple hundred RDPs
Is it not like per how many you have?
So you get one no matter how many you held
That was our first qualifier or airdrop
So that we would include anybody regardless of how many RDPs they held
But we gave additional RSPs for every two that you held of RDPs
So if you have like hundreds and they're distributed amongst multiple wallets
I would go and check and connect to Shiberium or go check out your wallet
Because it should be the same address as with Doge Chain
Because they're both EVM compatible wallets
And just plug that in, check it up on the Shiberium scanner
And then you should see how many RSPs you may have
And they're not clones, they're different?
Yeah, they're entirely different, they're similar in style
So I have a bunch of NFTs waiting that I haven't seen that could have crazy traits
Yeah, there's crazy traits on the RSP collection
Yeah, they're visually similar in some ways
But they're different enough to have their own unique identities
I think I heard that they would
Do any of them have like my two favorite traits are the laser eyes and the lightsaber
Do any of them have those or is it completely different traits?
There are no lightsabers, that's an RDP exclusive
Yeah, so that's like one of the exclusive ones
And I don't think there's hoodies either
I could be wrong, but I don't think there's hoodies either on real Shiba Punks
But there are the laser eyes
And we've got other mixes as well like in the bunch where there's even aliens
And there's motorcycle traits
There's a lot of wild different traits on the RSP line
But yeah, you should check them out
And yeah, I encourage everybody to just enter the contest
And yeah, we want to see people become part of our community
And want to see you rocking hopefully our PFPs
Hey, thanks for the updates
Does anyone from Dojianals dogs want to talk about anything else that's going on?
I know we talked about OKX
Does anyone else want to talk about anything going on on Dojianals this week?
Bark is at the doctor, so maybe he can't speak up
Maybe next time we'll prep everyone and let them know
Hey, if you've got any updates, it's a good place to give updates to the community
Alright guys, I think we're probably good for the day
Hope everyone has a great weekend
Rock, just make sure you check your Dojianal wallet
Wait, how would you even know what my Dojianal wallet is?
Because I know what Dojianal dog rocking
How the hell would you find that?
I knew someone would do it
Do you know who the holder of the dox is?
Well, you dox yourself once you have an NFT
Unless you push it into another wallet
But everybody knows what wallet holds that NFT
I guess I did try to obfuscate it a little
But I don't care if people can know my wallet, it's fine
Yeah, I'll check that out, man
What do I got, bro? What do I got?
Are you just going to tease me?
I sent you a little cherry airdrop of the poisonous cherries
We haven't launched the full collection yet
That was the little 44 collection
I sent you one of the airdrop ones
And then we're still working on our full collection to drop on Dojianal soon
I think I'm on number 98, so we're getting there
Usually if people ask me if they can give me a gift
I don't know, I don't want people to think I'm like
I don't want to feel pressured into supporting a project or something
Or I don't want people drawing
So he must invest in this project
So usually I don't do that, but I appreciate it
And I'll accept since you already sent it
If I actually like the art and stuff
Maybe I will say something nice about it or whatever
Yeah, you did say that the last time we were up
So that's why I sent it your way
You were looking at all the stuff we were doing
Yeah, I mean you guys got boobies
I am a fan of the boobies
Yeah, fan of boobies as well
I'm going to get some boobies
My mom is trying to call me
Yeah, I was just going to say
Maybe because Bark isn't here
But they haven't dropped any major alpha
Just some things that they are currently working on
Seeing that they have good ideas that they're coming out with
Still at a great entry point
The community is fucking amazing
Everybody is really outgoing
Everybody tries to uplift everybody
So if you are looking for a new Doge project
That you want to get invested in
It's a pretty awesome community
This is one of them for sure
Like Rocky found out you obviously join
But you can also always tune into their spaces
They have spaces all day long
And then in between we try to join in other Dogecoin
Or Doge ordinal conversations
And just keep spreading the knowledge around
Because that's the most important part of this
Is educating and onboarding new people
So other than that it was a great space
And I love meeting all these new people
And reaching out and getting to know one another
I guess one thing I'll jump in and say
And this is something I was actually talking to Bark
On a phone call recently about
At some point, I mean look at
Doge No Dogs have had a crazy run
Picking at like thirteen, fourteen hundred dollars
Like thirteen or fourteen hundred for mine
Or fifteen hundred something
But to go on such an epic run
You know, everybody in the community needs to be prepared
That these runs never last forever
And there will always be pullbacks
And then that becomes a test of
You know, the community's strength
Does everyone start dumping when the price pulls back
Do people that were very positive
Start turning negative in the threads
So it's a good test of people's strength
You know, Doge No Dogs have had a little pullback here
Which I can't believe it didn't happen sooner
They've just performed so crazy well
For such a new collection
But now we're going to get to see
This is a test Doge No Dogs
Are you here for the long term?
Or are you a fair weather fan
How does this affect your demeanor
Because it hurts to see stuff go down right
It's not down that much by the way
So it's not that bad of a test
But you know, it's always good to see like
What is the community like made of
Yep, hundred percent right
And I'm there with you guys now so
Hey, let's talk a little bit more in that group
Do we have on Telegram guys
Collab with the Doge chain builders
Doge chain with Doge No builders
I think there's a lot of synergy there
We're working on the utility
So you can get everything prepared
And I think we can do some
And push the entire Doge coin
More utility, versatility, etc.
For the naysayers and the Doge Maxis
They don't like Doge No's
And they think that you're eating up
The blockchain space for nonsense
Which I don't think it's nonsense
Yeah, yeah, we got a scaling layer
You have a narrative there as well
Get collabing, get started on all of that
We can move mountains together guys
We're two huge and strong
Loyal communities of Sheebs
On Doge chain and Doge No's
I think we can do great stuff together
To push Doge to a new level
With that, thank you everybody
Let's get people pushing for
Because I know it's kind of like Doge chain
And like people have been
When we first were wanting to introduce
EIP1559 to Doge chain to burn Doge
People like the hardcore Doge Maxis
Were crying about it because they said
No, we want inflation because
We want it to be a currency not hoarded
But I just generally disagree there
So I would love to hear from Doge No's
Dogs in the forums and on Twitter
And Telegram Discord everywhere
Like what do you guys think?
That's not the best outcome
Well, Doge is Doge, you know
Somebody that doesn't use a wallet
That indexes inscriptions
Might burn a Doge with inscriptions in it
So we need to think of that
So we need to think of that issue
I don't think that would be such an issue
The gas is being spent on Doge chain
Where that's not, I don't think that's it
That won't be an issue on Doge chain
Because they'll have to be technically
Yeah, Doge chain should know
There would be wrapped Doge accumulated
Then say like once a month
All the wrapped Doge would get converted
To true proof of work Doge
So if people think that's a cool idea
Let us know if you think it's a bad idea
Because you want Doge to stay inflationary
I don't like holding an asset that's inflationary
I don't, I'm not a big fan of that
I would rather, I think like over time
Lowering inflation is a good thing
Just like Bitcoin, just like Ethereum is doing
So I think we should, I think we should do EIP 1559
But I'm curious what other people are saying
Do you remember the DogeX?
DogeX, that's in a burned wallet
That's a bunch of Doge that was burned
When they try to do something with it
There's been, there's been several people who have
Wanted to burn Doge over the years
And there's been some that have
Then there were some that said they wouldn't
Is that what you're talking about?
I don't, I don't remember
So there is a, yeah there is a wall out there
With a bunch of Doge in it called DogeX
With something that's burned
It's just a burned wallet
Well it has to be a burned dress
When people kind of consider the burned address
You know Satoshi's wallets
They see that as kind of a burn
But that's not necessarily a burn
Because those could come back
If Satoshi ever comes back
It's, I believe that you just send it to 0X
And then it ends with a 1
Just because you know that's not owned by anyone
It's like, you couldn't, you couldn't create that, you know
But anyways, it's just a nuance
But no, I'll look into that
We talked about it in Doge
When I was in the Doge community
Like years, yeah like years ago
Like this was like maybe two years ago
That we were discussing that whole thing
When we had developers coming in from, from Doge
From Doge into the spaces and talking about it
But I, I just, that's what I'm saying
And I've never really delved into it
I just know that it's there
And that I was told that it was basically something that had failed
So it was all sent to that burned wallet
Like, and it's just sitting there
Well, what was, what was DogeX though?
Was it some people trying to
Yeah, they were trying to make something else
Like a split off for something
And then eventually, like I said
So I don't know if the foundation said no
But you know, I don't think it was supported
So it was just, it was burned
There's a weird thing about the community
Where some people don't like burns
I'm all for like, hey, let's burn some Doge
And make our Doge worth more
But you know, let's see what everyone thinks
Okay guys, we're pretty far into this
Over two hours plus three hours on the polygon one
So yeah, have a good weekend guys
We're going to call it here
Thanks everyone for coming
Bye guys, I won't be here next week
So I'll be missing you for one week
Jack and Rock will entertain you next week
Oh, let's read really quick some comments from the audience
I'll just read a handful since we're trying to wrap up here
Wow, crypto Rocky looking good king
The first book you should be coming into crypto
You're a wizard, Cryptorike
Alright, I'm not going to read any about me anymore
Alright, I will read these
And post a picture of the whole spaces
BTC and Doge could be considered the most decentralized because the founders have exited
the project in their positions long before they caught on with the mainstream
Doge McKenzie, Doge chain says
We're ready to inscribe on DRC 20
And tagged very Doge Labs
Everyone doing good today
Ink posted a cool Rasta hat
And posted a Doge-Nal's dog
And then Killer Beast did that meme from Drake
Where he is in the orange puffy jacket
I think you guys hopefully know what I'm saying
Okay, we got a bunch more MC
I'm not going to read all these guys
I'm just going to shout people out
Lost connection on the way to work
What a pleasure coming up
Yeah, pleasure having you, Drippy
How to adopt a Doge-Nal's dog
It is the wizard I was looking for
This is the one I was trying to find
Gangster napper with some cool sunglasses
I got to show that to Cindy, man
I'm going to stop reading
See you in two weeks, guys
Thanks, Poisonous Pin-Ups
You came up but didn't speak
And everyone in the audience