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I'm doing all right. I think we can take a collective breath for a moment. The mint is live. Things are chugging along. And we made it. We made it to this crazy historic day. So congrats. Thank you. Thank you. It's been what a journey. It's been wild.
What a journey indeed. Well, ladies and gentlemen and germs and people of the internet. Thank you so much for joining us today. It's my pleasure to introduce you to an artist whose work is nothing short of extraordinary. Jeremy Coward is a contemporary artist based in
Nashville, whose diverse portfolio encompasses everything from fine art and NFTs to photography, social movements, humanitarian efforts, iPhone apps, augmented reality and performance art throughout his career, Cawart has become renowned for his ability to turn even the wildest
ideas into stunning reality, constantly pushing himself beyond his limits and forging new paths along the way. He's achieved unparalleled success while navigating life's various challenges. He has been named the internet's most influential photographer, spoken in stadiums across the globe, launched a hotel chain and even
and initiated a worldwide give-back program. His portfolio also boasts a staggering array of famous faces including Emma Stone, Gwyneth Paltrow, Barack Obama, and Taylor Swift to name a few. Howard has worked with numerous big brand names such as Nike, Gap,
Okay. Finally, his work has been published in amazing publications such as Rolling Stone, Fast Company in the New York Times, throughout it all, Cowards Unwavering Passion for both art and humanity shines through. His goal is always to bring people together through his work and we are incredibly fortunate to have him here with us today.
Welcome Jeremy. A formal. Yes, formal hello. Thank you for that crazy intro. Good to be here with you. We're thrilled to have you today. Really excited to get into it with you. And why don't we just start by
you giving us an intro in your own words. Who are you? Yeah, I'm a photographer and an artist based in Nashville, Tennessee. I'm a Nashville native and here in my whole life with the exception of one year in LA.
But yeah, I've been shooting a lot of entertainment and celebrities for a long time. A lot of humanitarian work as well. I do a lot of volunteer projects around the country for natural disaster type work. I've got four kids and I'm checking along and just trying to
make make art and put fun things into the world. So yeah, that's a short summer. It's incredible. And why don't you tell us what's happening today? Today we are live right now on the Lallith for Ores, which is a crazy idea.
January for a 10k project which sounds crazy but I just had to say that I created 10k in 10 minutes even though it's taken 10 years to learn how to do that. I was literally a decade since the first or
to do in this lighting trick. And so I had the idea to come to this like live performance or thing where I would create and again it turns out 10 minutes was a little too fast but 20 minutes turned out to be possible. And so yeah I've created this crazy system
system where I do all this stuff and we did the live event last Tuesday where I sat in front of 130 feet LED volume screen and I had about 10 images per second that I created, projecting behind me and onto my
body which was a projection screen as well as a lot of other crazy stuff happening. As I was saying, and we're going to get, oh sorry, no you're good, we'll get into the details and a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I definitely want to give you some time to talk through artistic process and just how all of this really
came together. But first I want to sort of go back in time a little bit. And can you tell us a little bit about your journey as an artist and create it really? Where did it begin? Yeah, I'm an F gosh. I fell in love with art when I was young and seventh grade and pursued it all through
high school ended up becoming a one or two year painter out of college, but became a graphic designer and then that turned into web design which eventually led me to photography, digital photography, and then photography really blew up. And then over
Of course, the time of really return to Maruti is a painter and done a lot of various things in the fine art and digital world. And so yeah, it's just mixed media these days, kind of combining all together in one.
incredible. And how did you get introduced to Web 3? I know everyone has their sort of Web 3 story. I'm curious what yours is. Yeah, first, first showed the word NFT after people. So, which was really weird. I couldn't write my mom
around it, but something about that led me to just start innovating and wondering how I could bring motion to my photography. And so I kind of had been playing with this crazy process for a few years and decided to take it to the next level and kind of came up with this
called a Latigrath which is where I can move light through a still photograph so the only motion in the photo is light. And then that kind of jumped into this face for a little while and was really overwhelmed. I didn't understand it so I kind of quit for a few months and then
December of '01, '21, sorry. Our friend Rowe told me about generative code or generative art. And went to a rat mong round around generative art. That's really when things change and I fell in love with the whole space and finally learned it properly.
Yeah, I think everyone can relate to the sort of feeling of being underwater or being super overwhelmed and you first enter this space I mean all of a sudden you know someone will be explaining to you what an NFT is and how it works and then just a flip gets like a switch gets flipped rather and all of a sudden there's this entirely new way
language that people are speaking all around you and you're like, "What's going on?" And it's really crazy because words just mean something totally different here. Mending is something totally different than what it is outside of this space and then it becomes normal pretty quickly. So it is scary how quickly it's sort of like, I don't know, catches up
with you I guess and it sort of takes over everything. It's really crazy and pretty immersive. Well that's amazing. Can you tell everyone here what your first sort of foray was into bringing your work to up blockchain yourself?
How I brought it again. Yeah, so what was your first collection when you dropped on the block team? Yes, I think the very first one was on OpenC was my first attempt and I dropped a collection called Soul as well, which was just 40 days
photographs that I had taken in my studio and that was truly before I had any idea of what I was doing. But I actually did sell out. There are just these really artistic shots of dancers that I took. And then I think even
I tried another collection early on. So yeah, it was a very half-ported attempt because again, I was intimidated by the level of talent in the vocabulary. And so it wasn't until Block Queens, which even the Block Queens isn't my first collection,
I feel like it's my first collection because that's when I understood what I was doing. I understood the blockchain, I understood the entities and block queens were released a year ago, February, or a collection of a thousand, mixed media, truly mixed media entities that are fully interactive so you can move
them around and scroll and zoom in and zoom out. They're fully 3D NFTs, but they didn't use 3D. They just use scans of my paintings and photographs. That's what I consider to really be my
first collection. Nice. That's really awesome. And what led you or what was sort of the inspiration for us that we're seeing today? Yeah. It started with the technical side of the idea, which was being able to
create this tin-k and the short amount of time that I've never seen or heard of being done before. And so I jumped into that and then I later realized that, oh, this actually ties into everything else I do in a way of connecting humanity.
within a forest you're going to see once it reveals that I'm projecting all kinds of different humans onto me. Humans that were created like line drawings, line drawings of other men and people and men that were created with AI. And so yeah, it's kind of
my way of just trying to represent my love of people and all of humanity. And so because I didn't want to just be the Jeremy Kilmer show shooting cell portraits, I really wanted it to represent other people, other places, and so that was kind of the goal behind it.
That's amazing. And are there, and I know we just talked about this in another space, so I don't want me to get bored of me. But can you talk a little bit about sort of like artistic inspiration, either in your sort of like surrounding art scenes?
So whether that's in Nashville or during your time in LA, if there are specific artists or shows that have really spoken to you in recent days, years that have sort of helped inspire some of the work that you're doing or inspire your creativity. Yeah, I mean, you know, the old figures.
It's so close that inspiration is everywhere, but I really do feel that way. And especially in the NFT space, inspiration is everywhere I'm constantly inspired by my fellow photographers and artists. They fan of Refeat, and at all they fan of God.
So many artists there's no there's no shortage of level clear silver has been doing You know so many others so many painters like my my whole feed when I look at Instagram is just all all art when I look at open
and see when I look at any platform, this is all art and so I'm constantly taking it and there's a lot of you don't want to get overwhelmed, you don't want to get jealous or intimidated. You want to stay in an inspiration place and so I try to stay in that right mindset of being inspired
Yeah, definitely, you know, I've actually never never thought about that before but it is really important I think just the mindset that you have when you're surrounding yourself with other people doing really incredible things just staying in that inspiration mindset over a competitive mindset
or an MV as mindset I think. It's really easy to get caught up in both of those, especially as it pertains to like being in social media or in the digital space, but to your point, inspiration really is everywhere as long as you sort of take it as inspiration. So that's a really important message. I love that. Very cool.
All right, talk us through the artistic process for this collection at Adnazian Police. It's such a crazy thing that you put on. It really was performance art.
It's photography. It combines all of the mediums that you've worked in throughout your career. So I'm excited for you to dive in and talk through how this all came together and what the artistic process was like.
Yeah, I've been doing, you know, portraits from a studio for the public for the last few years and that process keeps getting weirder and weirder and weirder. Like I'll just slowly add
New elements to the whole process and It just got to a point recently where I was like man this thing is cooked like it's ready to show to the world
as a project and so yeah, it's when I think about the process itself, it's, you know, me with probably 150 plus images projecting onto my body at about 10 frames per second. The same thing happening on the background, which was, you know,
130 foot wide projection screen even though even though I was only using a small part of that I still had that brightness of the LED volume screen behind me and then I had in my left hand I was actually holding a laser that I was shooting into the lens what you're not supposed to do
because it could ruin the camera sensor but I was doing that anyway. And then on my right hand I was holding a remote, firing the camera on burst mode, it really fast-speed. And then I had multiple lighting setups firing at different times as a form of
rarity and then I had a different literal hat that I'll change so I'd stop the camera from firing and then I'll change hat, stop the camera, change hat so I'll probably war eight hats during the process and then there's the different way
that I edited the photos so there's about eight different photo editing styles mixed in there that are part of the Rarity traits as well and then I think I'm forgetting a couple things we are we rarely was like a really big part of the concept
and the performance itself. And then we had to have a team of literally like 30 people over the past week, manually assigning raided trades to each and every photo. So it was just wow, the whole thing was wow.
That really is crazy. So a few things to unpack here. So to recap, it was you sitting in front of the camera, the camera is firing on burst mode. So just tons of pictures being taken in a really short period of time.
there's things being projected onto you and your background. So there are tons of different images. So the goal here being that you're capturing, you know, entirely unique images throughout, like, while everything is sort of bursting around you.
That's your capturing these tiny little moments in time that are totally fleeting. And this all happened in front of a live audience of 150 plus people. Exactly. It's crazy. When you were pitching this to people, how hard was it for you to
not too hard. I mean there's a lot of creative people in Nashville and so I mean it was definitely crazy. I think people were drawn to it just because it was so wildly different and we don't that's not something we have and so you know
So yeah, I mean, it was definitely a weird idea, but thankfully people got excited and assembled a pretty amazing team from the video production. The event producers, they get all thankfully, came together one way or another. Yeah, it definitely did. Well, I haven't asked this before and
I'm going a little off script here, but I am curious, since we're based in Nashville, how big of a role, if at all, does music play in sort of daily inspiration? Since it's really, you can't escape it in that town. Yeah, you definitely can. I mean, I work alone in a big old studio that I'm in right now.
And I'm in a listen to music all day every day. So I guess it, uh, you know, it's a massive part of my creative process because if I'm not in the right mindset or the right vibe happening, I don't know that I'd make good art, you know, so I would say music does play a good percent percentage.
it. Although during that worst performance, I had my friend, Christina Spanay. I chose to have her music playing. She's a classical composer and pianist, which I don't really usually listen to classical music, but when I heard her music, I just knew it was
like the perfect match. It just made it feel very, very high-end finer, which was just such a beautiful contrast to what I was doing. And so yeah, she was the perfect fit and I was so grateful to have her be a part.
That's amazing. I love that. This is such an incredible sort of performance and obviously the visual art that comes out of it is truly stunning. So really just want to give you some flowers because this is a
an enormous undertaking, crazy artistic process, really original, really unique, something that I don't think anyone has seen before. So it's really, really incredible what you were able to pull off. It's really exciting. Thank you, thank you.
of course. Okay, I want to talk through rarity a little bit more because it's a buzz word in this space. It's really hard to escape. Everyone wants to understand, you know, how rarity plays a role in in collections that are along
from the blockchain. So I'm curious, the process that you set rarity, like by which you set rarity within your collection is super complex, really manual. Can you just walk us through how it works and what that process was like a little bit more
Yeah, I mean like that voice crack and it turns out I'm just now going through puberty at 45 years old so my voice is cracking because you've been on the spaces on top Yeah, no rarity was this a really fun
fun challenge to think about a minute. It took a while, you know, two years ago for me to really run my wander on where rarity and what mattered. But essentially the more rare piece you get out of a collection, the more valuable it is. And so I just love that kind of like super complicated matter.
problem of figuring out how do you do that within a photography project that is happening over 20 minutes and then after the fact thinking through that from a perspective of you know photo editing and lighting setups and all
the different things that I did. I'm really proud of how it all came out. There's actually a few one of ones in the collection. There's 140 that I did end up using generative code to remix them with rectangles and squares.
then there's like 10 that I made using a generative code with like paint splatters, you know, so they're definitely many levels of, you know, one-of-ones rare super-rares, then there's like photo editing, there's styles that I only use three first 10 of the time, some that I use 10
percent of the time. So yeah, it was a well-crazy idea. That's pretty insane. I don't thank you for too many NFT collections that are manually inputting rarity into a physically generated, generative collection. So
Really, really awesome to see. Okay, I know it's been a really long, long few days leading up to the drop, a long day so far. So I don't want to take up too much of your time. So let's get into the sort of the nitty gritty details of the drop. So we've had our block mean holders allowless phase that happened earlier this morning at 10
We are in our Allalus phase now at 11 a.m. We are five minutes out from the public stage, which I am super excited about. Are there any sort of mechanics that you want to walk through or anything that you would like to share as far as the details of minting?
it what this gets you, your community, just sort of explaining a little bit more about what, find one of these things does for you as a holder. Yeah, I mean, it's actually been amazing because you know, with a lot of TNK projects, there's all kinds of utility
assumed in part of the project. But ever since I started, you know, it's the ORIS process, which has been months in the making, you know, literally one single person has asked about utility, which is crazy and meaningful because what that means is
that people do realize that this is just a historic effort. I know that the art stand alone adds the utility, which was the dream and the idea and the goal. And so yeah, if you're owning this, you're owning something that hopefully will go down as a sport project, you know, been
Ben Strauss from Transant Labs just this morning tweeted that you know this is a project that people talk about for years to come which obviously don't know if that's true but I would hope that to be the case and so yeah it's a it's an art project I do have crazy
really really exciting ideas for utility at various levels of its success but that obviously is just going to be a timing thing and feel a market does and you know I'll play all that by ear but there are certainly no shortage of ways that I want to take care
my community just as I've done with the Block Queen's community, trying to reward them with free ors today. There's going to be all kinds of ideas for ors holders moving forward, but again, that'll be a TBD market type situation, but I'm really really excited for what I had
Yeah, we love teasing a little bit alpha. So obviously so much more to come. Tons of amazing community perks, so to speak, with pulling these. You have done an amazing job managing your community. Clearly your holders are really devoted to your work. And rightfully so, and I think, you know, I
I do think that what people have been saying, like the press feedback has been really amazing around this collection. And I do think that it is really historic, you know, for one reason or another. You're capturing a moment in time and, you know, simultaneously reflecting on you and your own sort of career and journey as an artist, really leveraging a lot of the work
and style that is so uniquely yours and applying that to what is sort of the story of Web 3 and NFTs and this crazy journey that we've all sort of been along for the ride on. I think, you know, they're the 10K sort of sentiment and the 10K meta that we saw really
the web 3 and a t space is something that people are going to be talking about forever and having you put such a fine art sort of reflection and capturing what that sort of ethos is in this fine art way is really
unique is really exciting. I think the holders of this are very lucky for many reasons, but they really are going to be capturing a piece of history. So it's an amazing collector opportunity. It's so cool. Thank you. It's awesome. I want to talk a little bit and this is something I ask a lot of
artists that I speak with. A little bit about sort of like the business of art because I think something that a lot of people overlook who are not artists themselves is sort of the entrepreneurial spirit and grit that you have to have as an artist in general, both either Web 2 or Web 3. But I'm curious like
to explore a little bit about your experience as like being in the business of art and how that has you know maybe altered who you are as a creative or how you think about things or how you ins like in you know conceptualize projects but just curious to hear
your take and what that journey is in like for you so far. Yeah, the business of our man, I wish we didn't have to think of it like that, but obviously we do. Yeah, I mean, it's a grind. There's no doubt to make a living as
an artist. And so, yeah, just always trying to, I mean, I kind of like that pressure because especially having a family, you know, the pressure to provide and figure it out is, it's just like forced innovation. Like you got to figure it out, you got to hustle like, like I'm a hunter.
woods going to find the next kill you know and like how do we scramble and figure that out and so I've been doing that in various ways for 20 years and and it's it's never easy but I do I do love it I always say that I'm you know my
The way my worst day is working for myself, I always say better than my best day is working for somebody else. I wouldn't trade this for anything. I love the hustle, love the chaos of it all.
And it just is what it is. It will be interesting moving forward to see where things go with AI and how it's going to affect creators. But I'm confident and hopeful that we'll pivot and learn to adapt and figure it out.
Definitely. And you touched on AI, and I don't want to go down too deep and see down the rabbit hole here. But you leveraged AI a bit in this process of creating this collection. So I'm curious, sort of, your take and how that played a role in this collection and what your sort of thoughts on AI are overall.
Yeah, I uh, I've been pretty hesitant to embrace the whole AI thing. Um, but with Horus, it really, really did make sense because I'm using about eight different processes and what I do. And only one of them really contained AI, but
And it was just a perfect partner also considering the time crunch because this is a massive effort of very ambitious and I just simply ran out of time until I was able to utilize AI as part of the projection methods. A lot of the projection I'd say it's about how
my own art, photography and paintings and polarids, and then the other half is using the eye. I was able to create these crazy one-line drawings of humans, literally one sketch of humans that really added a lot
the process because now looking at the final oris it's really rad to see kind of the final results and what they look like in AI play the massive part of that. I think my biggest concern about AI, whether you love AI or hate it, I don't think anybody can disagree with
the idea that you know, you're from now when every kid and every adult and every person on the planet has you know chat GPT times 10 and mid-journey times whatever it's about then and everybody can literally produce amazing visuals
music videos at the few words typed, like we're going to be so inundated with amazing art that what I fear is the actual human made art is no longer going to be impressive or interesting even because you know for the last
that's what since social media has existed 2007 were in awe of each other's work. You know, we love looking at photos and paintings and art and things that humans make. And so moving forward, human art is just no longer going to wow us because we're so inundated
with AI, everything is going to be amazing. And when everything is amazing, nothing is amazing. So I think that's my main point of sadness, if you will. And I don't know, it's just, it's going to be interesting. I mean, artists or artists were created for a reason. Hopefully we'll pivot and figure out a new way
to make a living but yeah I'm both concerned and excited about it. Yeah I think that's a fair assessment and a fair perspective. I think you know as you were able to leverage Web 3 and sort of use this as a new way to share your work
and get new collectors and reach new audiences, I think the same sort of applies to any new technology, right? Whether it's AI or just a new sort of like technological medium. Artists have a way of being really nimble and you
using it to propel their art forward and using technology to propel their art forward. So I am hopeful and cautiously optimistic that we will see a lot of really incredible things come from the artists that we love and respect and really want to see Excel and are able to really
like leverages tool to just continue creating new art and being sort of a source of inspiration overall. I agree though. It is simultaneously scary because they could very easily take over who's to say it. But if they're listening,
We're really big fans. We love the robots and we're grateful for all the things that it's doing for us and the world I guess right now. We want to stand there good side. Okay, so I want to invite some people up from the audience.
to ask questions if there are any, I see some friends in here. If anyone does have any questions, I think we have a few that we've shared already. Let me just accept this co-host so I can invite some people up, make sure that we don't get any craziness up here.
any questions and Jeremy if you've any thoughts while I sort through I just realized I just realized that public meant is live from Trump oh my gosh yes this is why I need to have a jingle from when public sales go live right public meant is live so everyone go to open see its
on the homepage, you cannot miss it. The public sale is live. Make sure that you mint a piece of this historic collection. It's amazing art. It's just an amazing thing to be a collector of and it's just incredible, incredible work. So make sure you go mint.
Okay, um, we have quite a few requests here sorting through. This is a recorded space, so please, please, please keep that in mind when coming up.
and asking questions. Let's keep the focus on the artist please and on this amazing collection so I will bring up our friend Joe.
I think Joe is connecting.
He's in the Pepe and now I'm just breaking even. But my intent is to pick one up at some point and yeah, a huge Nashville voice for artists and just keep doing what you're doing in your Austin journey. Thank you. That means a lot, man. Appreciate it.
Thanks, Joe. Do you have a question for artists today? Or just in full hours? Either way works for us. Yeah, just flowers and I know it's a very technical thing, but Jeremy, what would you say like the two most, if somebody wanted to maybe
follow in this footsteps recreate this what would you say the two most or three most important tools are to do it I'm not gonna lie I was multiple attacking say that last four or more time what would you say the two
or three most important maybe like software tools like Mac app or photo editing or like if somebody wanted to try to do this what would you say is important for a very basic one.
for a photographer? Yeah.
I mean, for me, I use a program called Capture One Pro. I think most beginners and people are using Lightroom. You know, cameras, good dreams, a million different directions. But yeah, for the Mac, I'm using Capture One Pro and Photoshop.
two things and very little Photoshop these days actually it's mostly done in Capture and Pearl. I just see a Photoshop for any skin retouching that might need to happen so. Amazing. I love a process question. Thank you Joe. Matt
Matt let's see who Matt lack I have invited you up to see do you have a question. Hey Jeremy's Matt Matt lack again. Well, what's up man? Good to hear from you. Thanks for all your help with stuff man and just blown away by this whole process. I do have a couple questions that you may not answer but we'll see.
First off, the projector that is shooting on you. What's the like, lumens on that? Like, how, how brighter are you shooting that? Because it's just so vivid. Yeah, that one, that's a good question actually. I think that one is
If I remember correctly 2000 lumens, awesome.
How do you not get that to spill over on the background? Yeah, great question. The background is just so broken that it kind of overpowers the the brown one and and it did a little bit, but I had to do some puttush off trickery.
to essentially mask out the background like a Jew basically trace myself to where the foreground projector would only hit me and not the background. Got you. Got you. So you did that ahead of time. Yeah. Okay.
and then would you be willing to share your camera settings? I mean, I can. I don't know if anybody cares. They're kind of irrelevant, but yeah, I think I was maybe
$1,000.00 at like F3.5 shutter speed I think was $1.25.00. Okay, I believe. Okay. Now why would you say that that doesn't matter that much what you're doing?
It just as I mean it's the age old like what your camera sure questions, you know, I mean it really is more about the art. But yeah, I mean camera cameras settings were I wanted to choose slower so that I can
these for more blurry stuff, but we had to hit the amount of photos in 20 minutes. So I have to keep it faster, etc. That's cool. Awesome, man. Well, I've picked up three already, man. I appreciate it. Amazing. Yeah, so grateful. Yeah, and I hope to run into it, VCon.
Yeah, I'll be there. All right. Look forward to it. Thanks for having me at. Thank you. Thanks Matt. All right. I'm gonna take a just a couple more questions here. Adam, I know you've been waiting patiently. So feel free to pop up and ask questions. Oh, did you do I need to read you? All right. In the meantime,
time let's add we had someone else so is chaotic sorry Jeremy all right Adam ask me to have the free our final question so make it a good one I'll try so I heard you
talking about business a bit. The aspect of business I guess and how it applies to art and I think that's extremely important when it comes to open sea, when it comes
photography, you know. So I guess what part of like what did you have to apply to business from business?
Like did you write a business plan a marketing plan like Or was it just art for the sick of art? I mean not just obviously, but I'm very interested in this and I love some fans
family members in the art scene that have been successful. And so, yeah, I'm just, but not, I don't know if they're doing any of these or not.
you know, we talk every once in a while. So I guess I just think as I'll run it out with this. I feel that, you know, we have to always remember
The entrepreneurial spirit is live in all of us.
If you're an artist, how did you actually, I guess,
put those two together. If that makes sense. That's a great question, Adam, yeah. And just to maybe me maybe reframe this a little bit Jeremy, what was perhaps your process for balancing creativity with business as we started touching on earlier? Thanks. Perfect. Yeah.
Thank you so much. Yeah, I think it's just years of learning not just about business, but about marketing and story and branding, you know, a former graphic designer. And so I had to learn how to sell products for clients.
and I had to learn how to tell a story through all kinds of other ways of learning. But yeah, I'm in my 40s now, I've been doing this for 20 years. So eventually you used to learn how to do business.
But it is hard, you know, like even with a whore, if it's been 95%, maybe 98% not great. It's just been a ton of work, ton of business work, and learning it teams and partners.
And then like, you know, getting to do a little bit of the creative, but learning to get everybody behind the creative and get everybody behind vision. And yeah, I think all that is just acquired over time and, you know, it's definitely a hard thing to learn, learn the business side.
That's awesome. That's a perfect answer, Jeremy. And, you know, just to add on to that, having worked with you to bring this one to life has been really, it's just been amazing to see sort of your process as an artist, as a manager of community, as a thought leader, and, you know, just as an
I think you you're able to wear so many hats which is really nicely displayed in this collection actually as you have physically switched hats While you're in this event in this process, so You know as an artist and as a person who is doing art as a
as their full-time job, it is incredible to see just how much that you need to deal with on a day-to-day basis, fallously handling problems of your community, fallously bringing this to life, executing on the art, executing on the drop mechanics, really everything down to
the really unglamorous and degraded details of the tech behind all of this. So I know it takes a village, but you're really, you know, handling all of this in a really incredible way. So it's been awesome to see you at work. It's been awesome to bring this to life. I want to kick it back over to you for any close
closing remarks since I know it has been a long one and I want to give you some time to relax a bit while the mince is happening. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, closing remarks will just be, yeah, go check it out, reveal being a couple of days. I'm really excited about that when the NFT actually starts
showing all the crazy variety and diversity of the project. Crazy proud of it. So yeah, y'all definitely just check it out and definitely watch the videos. That's a main thing on the OpenC Drop page. There are some extraordinary videos that my friends that evolved studios
created for this project they are just insanely talented and I just couldn't be more proud of the execution and all of that so definitely be sure to check this out. It's an incredible collection an incredible drop and absolutely yeah go
It's on the open it's on open these home page. You can't miss it and you're definitely not going to want to miss out on the chance to make your so make sure to check it out and thank you so much for the time today Jeremy really excited about this one and thank you everyone for joining us today for this incredible conversation excited to see you all next time.
All right, thank you. See you. - Thank you.