I can feel your pullo and into your back its door, its my end of life
♪ I say it's what you don't ♪ ♪ I can't say you deeper ♪ ♪ Tell me what you thinkin' ♪ ♪ You can't bend it until you're soft ♪ ♪ You sit on me baby, drop down a little deeper ♪
♪ And here I do the phone, you think I can tell ♪ ♪ When you want to know ♪ ♪ I'm making excuses, I don't want to lose you ♪ ♪ So I let it go, push me where it can pull me from ♪
♪ I can't believe just that ♪ (upbeat music)
Hey, hey, hey, how are you doing today? Hey, Charlie Charlie, did you like my my lead in music, my friend?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was pleasantly surprised nice Awesome that was for you my friend, you know Thank you. Thank you. All was grateful. You're welcome. You're welcome. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat a little bit about Your career as an artist and and and all of that
good stuff as well and sort of how you've been using the bonfire sites. But yeah, happy Tuesday to you and yours. Excited for this discussion today. You know, yesterday I sent out a tweet
And I asked my audience to sit. Here's a few things that I had been working on or learning recently. And they all really had to do with Bonfire by the way. But I basically was like, "Hey, I've learned how to build a web through website. I've learned how to token gate these live streams. I've learned how to
token gate my writing through discord and far and away, the most popular answer was people want to know how to create a web3 website. And so the timing of this particular space, I think, is really good for my audience.
And I'm really excited to chat with you and learn and teach and hopefully create kind of a resource that people can reach and find later if they're wanting to build their own creator website. So this should be a good one. Sound like a plan.
Hell yeah, let's go. I also got my buddy Cryptoversal bookstub stage. How we doing today Cryptoversal?
We're done great Greg. Thanks for joining us crypto versals doing some sweet things from a writer's perspective on his website and so I want to I want to pull him into this conversation and chat with them. So okay, so we're going to rock and roll on this as always.
If you have any questions, feel free to throw them into the chat. I'll be watching the chat as best I can. There is a comic cloud on the bottom right that you can click. For some reason it's not letting me click it. I don't know if anybody else is having trouble clicking that little cloud, but
If you want to click on that cloud, you know, re-tweet or quote-to-tweet or even make a comment, all of that brings more awareness to the space so we can get some of more of our friends in here and chat creating websites with the Bonfire team.
I always try to have some Q&A at the end as well. And so if you've got a question and you want to jump up here later in the show, feel free. But the agenda today is I want to chat with the Bonfire team. You kind of go over the who, what, when, where, and why of Bonfire.
on fire and how to create these websites. And then I've had some success recently using my site. I thought I could share some of the things that we've been working on. Charlie is an artist and producer in his own right and beyond being in, you know, working for
He's also a user of the site and so he's got some cool stuff on his site and then we got Cryptoversal up here as well. So, should be a fun hour of both learning what bonfire can do and then actually talking to some users that are having success on the site. So that'll be our agenda for today. How does that sound?
Sounds good. So Charlie, why don't you start share a little bit about yourself and again, I want to I want to circle back to you as a creator later in the hour, but maybe you introduce yourself a little bit. I know it's, you know, we've also
So we've got bonfire listening. If we want to have them up here, we can do that as well. If there's anybody else on the team, but yeah, introduce yourself and then talk a little bit about what you do from bonfire and then we'll get kind of chatting about bonfire in general.
Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me here. My name is Charlie Crown, I'm an artist and producer, I'm a electronic music and I've been in the music space for over 15 years. For the past few months I've been working with Bonfire
in the artist relations area, helping them get creators onboarded and also supporting creators in their web3 journey either if they are just beginning and getting familiarized with all the web3 terminology and all the
technology we have going on. And also if there are an advanced user and they are looking to create more complex drops and ideas. Bonfire for those of you who haven't had the chance to test the platform or
read about it a little bit. It's a platform to start, cultivate and reward your communities with social tokens and if these boundaries are drops without the need for code. We empower creators to be their own platforms.
by providing them with their right tools to build community and unlock the creative and economic freedom so that also includes helping new and advanced creators find revenue streams with Web3 technology. I think that's about
it. Happy to answer any questions if you have any. Yeah, so let's start with, you know, what do we mean when we say it's a Web 3 website? What separates a Web 3 website from a Web 2 website?
Yeah, basically I would say bonfire when you log in you would see your regular web building tools, text, headers, images, video embeds, the ability to connect your own domain.
But aside from that, we have a very robust Web 3 part to the website building experience, which includes deploying your own NFT contracts or talking getting certain parts of the website so that your fans and your supporters can have access to a special
experiences and that could be live talking gated live streams talking gated chats even talking gated drops and as a necessarily have to do anything with the three you can also talking gate audio and video so to give you guys an example we've seen some artists use Poops or precincts
from showtime to give away NFTs to their audience for free and then create token-gated spaces in their bonfire sites so that fans can go in there and maybe listen to the music before it comes out or maybe listen to demos and whatnot. So the token-gating party is one of our most robust aspects and the
is clearly can be used for web 3 stuff but also to talking gate, web 2 content. And then we also have air drops to reward your community if you have an ERC 20 token or a community token. You can use our air drops feature to maybe reward your community for certain
behavior, maybe if they add your song to a Spotify playlist or maybe if they share your content somewhere else or TikTok, you know, I always like to say in these types of conversations that imagination is a limit because bonfire is built in a modular way with blocks and basically you can take off
All of our features drag and drop, mix and match and create your own experience. So that's very powerful for creators because they can not only, you know, design their site with their branding and have their own experience visually, but also in their user experience, how their fans and their community members experience
and have access to maybe things and experiences that others cannot access. And I think that's where Web3 is really powerful. How can creators use Web3 technology to further create memorable experiences for their community, either
that you either being that in real life or online. Right. I like to say, you know, Web 3 allows us to reward and engage our audiences like never before. And a website built on bonfires is exactly that. So yeah, lots of
features available in the bonfire suite of services. And I want to definitely spend some time going over there. But you know, when I think of a web 3 website, I guess one of the main things I think about is it's this ability to create a website where users can connect
with their wallet. I mean, that's essentially what really, I've to me separates right a web to from a web through web site. And I can tell you this. And I said this in my tweet yesterday, you know, 45 years old, I was in finance, I have zero technical background. I don't, I couldn't code
my way out of anything. And what is awesome about Bonfire is that it's no code tools. And so, you know, if you have some, if you just have some experience using blocks essentially, you'll be fine on Bonfire.
But the cool thing is that all of these different building blocks just come with them, this automatic ability for people with wallets to access your site. And so we've talked about this on the right three show before. But one of the beauties of Web 3 is this site.
idea of wallets and about how we can connect using wallets. And it's not necessarily going to replace email as a way to connect with our audiences, but it is an additional way that we can connect with audiences through wallets. And what's great about wallets is that we have a whole bunch of information when we get a
that's connected to our site. And then what's also great about wallets is that they usually have money in them, right? So, you know, once they are connected to your site, they are already in willing buyers of whatever it is that you might be wanting to create. So what at its very
core level about bonfire and what I really liked about it is that if you don't have a lot of technical background, if you are not a super technical person, you can still hop on to bonfire, connect your own wallet first and then
start building this website out. And when you hit Publish, boom, you've got a web3 site that your community can now connect with their wallets and you can begin to have web3 transactions through all of these different things that we're going to discuss today. Is that sort of a fair characterization of the site?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's so. Let's just again before we get to some of the benefits and I just kind of shared with them a little bit there, but why else should web three creators be thinking about building a web
I mean, if I am an artist and I'm creating things on Manifold, you know, and I've, you know, we have some poets in the audience and maybe they are creating work on Tezos, so they're creating work on foundation or there's musicians
that are creating music that are NFTs. What is the driver or what is the reason why a creator might say, you know what, it's time for me to actually build a website instead of just throwing all of this stuff out there one by one.
That's a very good question Greg. I would say one of the main reasons I would strongly suggest creators to create a website is because right now everything on Web 3 is very fragmented so if you want to maybe do or deploy a account
track you can use minplex or you can use manifold or like there's a lot of platforms that do this currently and then you would usually have your community communicate on channels like discord or telegrams and then if you want to do a live stream maybe you go on your platform like whoop or maybe you would do like
a metaverse show on the central end. But then for your minting experience, you would usually take advantage of Manifold's feature of mint pages, and that's technically a website, but it would be like a manifold, a slash, your username, it's not technically your domain. So if you
you as a creator are looking for having a more branded experience, like "having a headquarter, like a hub for your community to gather and experience the myriad of experiences that you are going to create for them in one place, I would say the perfect
a place to do that would be a website and certainly a website that has some web 3 capabilities. So like you can have your web to audience still go to your website and maybe experience some audio, some video, maybe even access some stuff for free that could be like
I'm on the live stream or something like that kind of like the patreon model where you have some sort of content always have a level for free, but then Through collecting NFTs or tokens you can enable these spaces for great experiences so maybe
You create this hub or this headquarters for your community to gather in and maybe you have a weekly talking gated livestream where you talk to them and some questions Maybe show them how you make music or maybe Something similar to what you did last week Greg, which is you know, maybe you do a
mirror article about a certain topic and then if I as a reader want to go more in depth then I can collect that article and then use that article that I have collected now on Optimism to access a master class on Bonfire and then also interact in a chat with other people that are in the class as well
But then maybe if I miss the class, the class is recorded and then with my token on Optimism, I can always access that video whenever I want because you know I'm part of the community and then Greg because he's using Bonfire and creating all these experiences besides watching video I can also
also maybe read some articles that maybe are private and members only. Imagination is really the limit here and we've seen many artists in the fire use the same tools in different ways and to be honest sometimes it's the creator and the artist that surprises with the use cases with some
use cases that we haven't even think about. So yeah, it's pretty interesting to see how artists and creators of all types have seen one-fire sort of like HQ on Hub for their community to create these experiences, even physical stuff or IRL stuff like maybe claiming
to a show or claiming a merch store or having access to an invitation to someplace to have dinner with your favorite artist. Yeah, I think you spoke about it at the beginning, right? It's about branding and having a personal website as your hub goes a long way towards starting to build
a brand. I remember not too long ago, I guess it's maybe been a hot minute now, but I had somebody sort of reach out to me and they were a little aggressive in the DMs. The guy was like, "Hey, I see your content. I like it." But you know, you don't have a website.
And like, where is this and where is that and how can you be on here and not have this and it was it was a little aggressive, but you know, I was open. I was trying to be curious, not judgmental. And after a while, I was like, okay, tell me a little bit more about that. And you know, quite frankly, he was right. And one of the things I think we do is creators.
is that we live in our own world, right? And we really think everyone knows exactly what we're up to, right? I feel like everyone should just know, right? Because I'm doing this every day. And so it's like, well, yeah, don't you know that I have a podcast that comes out on Fridays and then I do a Twitter
But the bottom line is that we're all fighting for attention and we do have to make it easy for people to find out what we're up to and what we're doing. And so, you know, what I know is that the right three.io is where I want to
continue to build and create this one stop shop for people to find out who I am and what I'm up to because that is still where consumers want to go. They might see you on Twitter or they might find you, you know, anywhere on the internet, but there still has to be like this
this one hub to go to. And as we've already said, if you can then turn that hub into some Web 3 tools with token gating and NFTs and wallets and the whole thing, then that's obviously just an added benefit. Okay, so you, you know,
Charlie, you're a musician. Cryptoversal and I are writers. And so we're using it. Bonfire in general. Who is bonfire good for? Who's sort of the ideal creator for using bonfire?
I think Bonfire is perfect for really any type of person or brand that it's creating content or creating value or interstitial value.
building an audience or a community and that can mean several things you know writers musicians journalists video producers you name it you have some artists on the platform as well right
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So yeah, it's basically for any person or brand really Interested in building an audience and maybe engaging with their community on a much deeper level Yeah, agreed so and you've shared a few things already, but let's let's talk about some of the the use cases some of the you know
are some of the attributes or some of the tools that you can build on Bonfire that are some of the most popular that people use. I know you've mentioned a few already, but let's go over them again and maybe just a little bit more detail.
Yeah, absolutely. So apart from your web building tooling that you would generally find in platforms like Weeks or Squarespace, you know, text, buttons and beds, calories, audio video, all that good stuff.
There's a very robust and on growing Web3 aspect of bonfire which is you know you can create your own NFT drops We have integrations now with sound and decent so you can use either or to deploy your contracts and then import
them on bonfire but then if you don't want to use this end or sound we also have our own NFT drops feature built on top of the sound protocol which you can use to deploy your own contracts. If you want to do fixed additions, open additions you can do everything right now from your bonfire dashboard.
And then because it is your website, you can have the minting experience be on a page like you would create a page with your branding with your logo with all your brand assets and then have a minting experience go down there. But then also you have features like drop subscriptions and drop notifications where
You can enable this to let your fans and supporters sign up to receive notifications whenever you're dropping something or doing anything on one fire and you can edit these emails and you know basically have full control of how you communicate with your fans and how they receive these notifications whenever something's happening on one fire.
You can display your collectors as well. You can run contests and reward winners with anything from NFTs to ERC20s to even physical items that they can claim in token-gated pages. You can also use our AirDrop feature review
community token, ERC-20 token, you can use our ad-rope feature to maybe let people claim rewards for engaging or behaving a certain way. Maybe you want to reward the people that repost, retweet your tweets, maybe you want to reward people that contributed
to something in your community, maybe you are doing like a writing contest or like gathering ideas for a new book or stuff like that, then you can reward the winners. White Lee's the wallets and let them claim on our drop in the form of ERC-20 tokens. Aside from that, we have really great partnerships for
So right now you can embed posts from Lens directly on your PONFIRE website and also use buttons to let people follow you on social media and Lens as well. So it's very well interconnected. We are working on
a lot of integrations that are coming very soon. And actually, today, we announced the rollout. It's now live of our new threads feature, which is, you know, you're already used that on your masterclass. But yeah, it's basically
If I were to say something all threads, it's a chat feature similar to what you see on other live streaming platforms, but it's independent for every page. So you can have maybe a conversation for a masterclass, but maybe you have a different chat for drop specific chats.
So every drop can have its own chat. So we're basically building all these tools so that creators have more freedom and can create sort of this very intuitive and very interactive experiences for fans where maybe you're not only minting on NFT but also throughout the minting experience you're also participating in
a chat, people are getting hyped, maybe you as an artist are sharing some cool music or cool writing or maybe something that's very exclusive to the people that are connected to the chat. You can also talk and get all these features so they can, let's say you are having a minting experience on Bonfire and maybe the live
stream and the chat is talking about it. So like if I want to watch the listening party and participating in the chat, I need to collect first and then once I collect, I will have access to the party. So as I said before, really imagination is the limit here and I always like to see what creates
and maybe together explore ways in which we can make these experiences much more engaging and intuitive for us. Yeah, the chat font, the chat font show was super cool. It was, it was high quality, it was awesome. It was, yeah, that's a great,
And the idea that you could be chatting with your community during a event is obviously super cool. I really love that idea a lot. And to be clear, you can also import, you know,
know, NFT collections that you've already done. I mean, for example, you guys were one of the first ones to build and have optimism available so that I could build around Mirror. And so that's awesome. So I can import my Mirror contracts, my
your essays and then use those for token gates or use those for live streams or use those for however I want. So I have not yet used the actual minting functions inside of my website but that's on my to-do list for April but it's clear
So, just so the audience understands that you all have some awesome creative contract creation tools, but if you've already have contracts, you've already got an audience built somewhere else and you want to import those, it's easy, easy, easy to do it, or if you're more comfortable with them
a man of old or something like that, you can continue there and just import those contracts in. But one of the things that I think I think about this a lot, Charlie, and I'm sure Bonfire is thinking the same way, which is that, you know, as creators, the real, the real important part, I think, around
monetization is when we can begin to control like the entire ecosystem of our creative world. And I really think that that's where as content creators, whether we're writers, artists, musicians, poets, whatever, I think that's what we
really have to be thinking about is creating an ecosystem where we are connecting with people and we're also able to mint and we're also able to communicate and we're able to do everything from one place. And what's unique about Bonfire is that you can bring in brand that you're
So there's some other websites out there that are doing that, but you know, I own right three.io and I couldn't build an entire ecosystem around right three where it's all of my community, it's all of my minting, it's all of my tools, it's everything, and it's all in one ecosystem. And that is really conceptual.
I think the fly will affect that will lead to monetization because as you are creating more value, more people are coming and connecting with you. And then as you have more people connecting with you, the more you're able to create value. And that's just sort of that fly will affect. And bonfire really
is like ready to go. You have to admit, just even in the last six to nine months where you guys have gone is really incredible because you've really created this place now that creators can come and really they can do it. It's all there, right? I mean it's ready to rock and roll.
Yeah, absolutely. I really agree with what you just said and for me it's also the fact that we are building kind of like with open walls. We don't want to build kind of like this closed garden where you need to do
your contracts on Bonfire or where you only can't talk and engage stuff that you did on Bonfire or where you can only import things that have to do anything with Bonfire. So by building on top of the Ethereum blockchain and its multiple layer 2s,
We are subscribing very strongly to the ethos of interoperability, open and permissionless access. So yeah, it doesn't matter if you deploy your contract on bonfire using our own feature or if you deploy your contract using minplex or descent or
or your open C or mirror or you know you name it you can deploy your contract anywhere you like anywhere you feel comfortable and then on bonfire you can just copy and paste the address of your contract and use it to talk and gate stuff right of the gate very
easily with a very easy to follow, um, article in our knowledge base. So yeah, we like to empower creators to find and build their communities and also to find new revenue sources and, you know, achieve their financial independence and sovereignty and
and honor their creative freedom. So yeah, we're just building the tools for creators to feel empowered. And we don't want to close our gap right on. Well, this is a good time to bring in crypto-versal.
So, Cryptoversal, I love what you're building on your sites. I said in a tweet, I think early in the week, you know, not only are you taking some great stories and creating NFT books, but you're using
using it on your website. You're starting to, you know, the same thing I'm just saying, right? You're building an ecosystem on your site. You're also using dark blocks to integrate and encrypt. And so tell us a little bit about, give us a short intro of who you are. And then tell us a little bit about how you're using your bonfire site.
Absolutely, thanks, Rick. So I'm Greg from Cryptoversal. I have been exploring Web 3 publishing for almost two years now and it's been sort of a thought experiment until now because the tools
have been a little bit out of reach and now they seem to be here including Bonfire as sort of the Web 3 hub and Dark Block as the encryption decryption protocol and smart contracts are easily
easier to mint and it seems to all come together so that all the thinking and brainstorming and practice can be put in practice. And using the bonfire site as the hub of this is our publishing company.
This is, I want it to be decentralized and I want it to have a community feel to it. So what does the community want from a publishing site? What do you want to see in the books? What books do you want to see? If you have a book that you want to publish through Cryptoversal
books, how can we make that happen? What's the best blockchain, what's the best format, what's the best way to put it out? So we're just at the beginning of what I see as just a period that could potentially be enormous growth.
in terms of the variety of what we're putting out and the variety of platforms and formats and features. And it's very exciting to have a place to put all of that that has the features that we can use to build on.
And the community features and the web series features already built in so that we can just have this space. And so, you know, basically, even just this week,
Just today I put out the first Ethereum-based token book. And just last week I put out the first polygon-based token book. And still in the process of collecting a bunch of them together so that I can say, "I have a publishing house."
because I have this library of books. It's going to be amazing. And I'm excited to have everyone here just at the beginning of it so that you can see how it started. And this is it. This is how it started. And I noticed a couple things.
I want to dive into it. First of all, with the drop that you have today, just like a whole host of extras. NFT books for the win. We love our NFT books. I'm speaking in New York all about NFT books. We get to reward and engage readers like never
before. And so, you know, talk a little bit about how, again, from a Web 3 perspective, it's not like you're like setting up this mini Amazon where I just get to like buy a book and then read it. You know, Web 3 offers us this opportunity to add so much more
So talk a little bit about this latest drop and what you're able to offer readers like some of that utility. And then I want to talk a little bit about the importance of Darkblocks to the book sort of the NFT book game. So chat a little bit about that.
Oh yeah, it's so it's really great because I have a subscription token and it didn't start off as a subscription token. It just started off as oh I'd like to put together a token and send it out to some friends. It was a it was a New Year's present and then what do you build on that every every
Everything in Web 3 is potentially something that's a platform to build something else. So I put it on the bonfire site as you can mint it right on the bonfire site. And then if you do at the end of the month, at the end of every month, everyone
has one of these gets a bonus, gets something, either their token gets upgraded on dark block with some content that they can unlock or they get an air drop. This month end of March everyone got an air drop of an NFT book. It was Moby Dick on Polygon and I worked
I formatted it specifically to look good, looking at it on a screen, opening it up through Web 3. And it's on our weave and it's going to be an heirloom to last forever. And that's what would Dark Block really be.
really shines through because it encrypts content and it puts in its on our weave and it's enduring and it is the next generation of ebooks. It's all the innovation that we haven't had in traditional ebooks for the past 10 or 15 years because
the centralized environment of the publishing industry has had no incentive to innovate and give us new features and new products. Yeah, right on. And again, to Charlie's point earlier, here's Darkblocks, which, you know, doesn't, isn't associated with bonfire in any way.
They're not like in a negative way, just that you're not like the same company or anything. But because Darkblocks is building and Bonfire is building and they're both in this Web 3 ethos, here all of a sudden now we can get both of these technologies talking to each other and working together to build on top of each other.
best of Web 3. It's just one of those things where like it's just so cool and exciting and I just don't I feel like a lot of people don't even even recognize how cool and exciting some of the stuff being built is and how you know none of us need to be VC backed
with millions of dollars to do this. We're all just getting this done as individual creators, which is the ethos of Web 3, which is this empowerment of the creator economy, and it's being done in real time. You can add your dark block app to your no-code bonfire site tonight. Give yourself
four or five hours and you'll have it up and running. I promise, which is awesome and crazy. So Charlie, take your bonfire relations hat off and put your musician artist hat on. For those of you that may not have heard
And my intro music was some music created and produced by Charlie and a talented artist in his own right who also has his own bonfire site.
Talk to us a little bit about just your journey as a Web3 creative and how you've used bonfire for your creator success.
Absolutely happy to. Yeah, to get started, I would say my web journey started at the top of 2020. I was just browsing the internet and I found this thing called Ethereum and I was like, "Oh, I think I've heard this in the past, but it's popping up into my feed."
quite often I'm going to take a look and then I remember my friend Cooper Turley he was also talking about all these things called NFTs and music and wallets and you know decentralized platforms and all that stuff and I became just curious and I
started asking questions and before you know it I was already I already had a metamask while in my phone I was already connecting to sites like OpenC and participating in communities in Discord like catalogs on account you name it but yeah I became really interested
in NFTs and crypto in general first, but what really clicked for me in terms of music was how can artists like myself can incorporate blockchain technology into their projects to further build their community
reward their most active fans and you know really really lean into this concept of the 1000 true fans. How can I as a creator find who those fans are? How can I develop maybe deeper relationships with them and how can I maybe meet them someday?
and reward them because we as producers and artists, we create a lot of content and a lot of art, but really what makes our careers possible is our fans, especially in music and writing. Fans are the ones who buy the books, fans are the ones who buy the merch.
fans are the ones who drive four hours to go to a show, fans are the ones that listen to my music when they are in shower, when they are at work, when they are commuting to the work. So really my career would say wouldn't be possible without them. And for quite a while I thought that
not knowing who they are and not being able to thank them personally for making this possible. It's kind of like unfair. And then it's also, you know, fans are generally behaving and taking certain actions on a daily basis without asking anything in return. You know, fans are adding my music to the play
fans are presaving my song on Spotify before it comes out. Fans are sharing my music with their friends. But I have no visibility on any of these activities. All I get from Spotify is a top 10 of CDs where my music is being listened to at the top 10 countries and then maybe the people's average
age of what people listen to my music but I don't really know who my true fans are. So that's when really the Web3 module clicked in which is creating this in tandem of Web2. I'm not a subscriber of just you know ditching Web2 to the trash and focusing on the Web3. I think they will work together
for a very long time at least. And it's how can I make my music, you know, take advantage of the virality and distribution of Web 2, but take advantage of the relationship, community building and monetization of Web 3, find those thousand true fans and not only be able to build a relationship with them, but
also reward them for all the engagement and behavior they've been engaging in since they discovered my music and that could be you know rewarding them for presiding my song on Spotify and then throughout talking and getting paid on my own fireside let them listen to the song before it comes out or maybe
host a live stream that stuck in Gated and showed them how I made the song and how the song came about. It's really up to the artist to what they create, but yeah, that's when really Web 3 clicked for me and since then I've been in slowly building this infrastructure where I'm still using Instagram and I'm still using Twitter, I'm still focusing
using heavy promotion on Spotify and web tools, digital streaming platforms. But I'm also trying to find who are those people that really join my music to the point that they want to collect it and how can I use the technology to give them access to really amazing experiences that you wouldn't be able to have any other way.
feel like music is really having its moment. I think the NFT industry maybe was led with art and profile picks being part of that art and visualization but I feel like music is starting to have
And it's been going on for a while, but there's just a lot of exciting things happening in music. And we've already mentioned Lens, but I know and watch a lot of really successful things happening with Lens. And I know that there's a lot of I think there's a lot of collectors who are starting to see the value of music. And so, you know, my whole
is that as art and music, you know, very soon then people begin to value the writing part of it as well. I think it's just a matter of time until, you know, again, it gets back to this collector's mindset and this ownership mindset of just owning experiences and owning a piece of our favorite creators and
Yes, I can listen to your music for free, but if I really jive with the music and I really really like it, I can have a deeper relationship with the artists and the creators by minting and collecting their work. And that just makes a lot of sense to me. I mean, we've been collecting
musical things forever, you know, whether that's a set list from a musician or a jacket that they wear or something. I was just at the country music hall of fame here in Nashville and it's just a huge building of collectibles.
So, you know, as we move into more digital realms, why wouldn't we also want to collect the digital aspects of our favorite creators just like we do the physical? It seems obvious to me, but then again, I'm the right three guys. So obviously it makes sense.
sense to me, but we'll get there. We'll get the rest of the world there soon. So yeah, absolutely. Greg, let me just add something there that just came to mind and it's like collecting is a very human aspect. As species we've been collecting
since forever. That could be seashells and gold and rise to modern times where people collect maybe short losses from the cities they visit or maybe they collect harrow cafe t-shirts for every hotel they stay in.
And collecting is very human and you know people have been collecting art collecting newspapers collecting magazines and stuff like that but music in this context I think personally it's one of those very neglected and undervalued forms of art where we went from selling vinyl in the 50s for
$40 to selling CDs and cassettes for 20 bucks to selling songs for 99 cents on iTunes to basically begging for one cent per stream on a Spotify and to basically right now some people are talking about making music just free and making it valuable to own So yeah, we're slowly walking to a world where music is
free and artists are just going to have to monetize any other ways. So that's why we're seeing this kind of like boom and hype around music and fts because it's all of these independent artists that have been for years neglected by the music industry finally finding a home for their community, finding a place
to reward their 1000 true fans and finally having a way to make enough revenue to make a living off of their music without the need to have a 9 to 5 they hate during the week. So that's the excitement around it because for years artists have
been trying to make a living off of music but basically the only way was to sign with a major label and get a million dollars in advance and start touring the world. Otherwise you probably have to have like a side gig because music just doesn't give enough to make a living, especially if you live in the US. So yeah that's what I
I believe it's the hype behind music NFTs and I think we are slowly coming back to A time where people actively collect music they like. And it's finally getting out of the, oh this is what could happen, this is what Web3 technology
We will allow, but with Bonfire and with other sites to be fair, but with Bonfire, it's now. We are able to do it now. And I think that's a large reason why we're starting to see the success of some of these creators is because, quite frankly, for a while, it's just the technology has been clunky.
and it's not like it's still like perfect. We still have a ways to go, but I will continue to say this until the sun comes up tomorrow. But if I can do this stuff, anybody can do it. Anybody can do it because I'm as you know least technical person out there. There, you know, with no code tools
and what not, we're able to do some awesome things. And I'll just finish by saying that a couple of things up on fire has allowed me to do that I think are very, very cool. We've talked about the live stream already, but for me, your integration with Mirror has been truly phenomenal.
And quite frankly, Bonfire is like from what I can tell, one of the first Web 3 companies to really embrace Mirror and optimism and is really aggressively building in that way. And I hope that it pays off because Mirror is a fantastic writing platform
It's probably, I don't think it's probably. In my opinion, it's the most well-respected writing platform in Web3. It has lots of users, it has lots of collectors. So, so many things in Web3 come with trust. And I think people can trust Mirror to know that it's
It's a legitimate publishing platform. It's a legitimate collecting platform. And now with Bonfire, I can say, hey, if you have collected my writing, then come over to my write3.io and I can give you a token-gated experience.
It's bonfire is also how I gated my discord. And so again, I'm fairly certain that I'm the first person to ever gate a discord with their writing collection from mirror. And so, you know, if you want to hop into my discord where we're talking
about all things right three. We're talking about poetry and of teas. We're talking about book and of teas. We're talking about decentralized media like lens and farcaster and we're having awesome discussions about all sorts of things in right three right now. If you want to do that, you have to collect
of my mirror essays and go through the bonfire bot to verify that asset and then you can hop into the discord. That is mind-blowing, right? I mean, isn't that, I mean, that is such a unique and cool idea that we were never, you know, we couldn't do that. I couldn't even do that 30 days ago, 45 days ago, but we can do that now.
And so, you know, if we, as writers want to build communities around our writing, we have to have these tools available to us to do it. And so I appreciate Bonfire for allowing that process. And I would just share with anybody who might be listening to this or in the audience, you know,
So I think token gating is part of the Web 3 monetization model, but I think it's also part of just the Web 3 way that we can go about things. You know, offer things for free, but then give extras for those that choose to collect.
And I think that's true for our writing, it's true for our art, it's true for our poetry, it's true for our music, you know, quite frankly, everything that we do digitally from here on out, you might as well just assume it's going to be free and just be okay with it, you know. So there's no reason to think
that it's not. The digital world is going to continue to open up. Consumers are going to want things for free. My opinion is just give into it. It's fine. You want to read my blog post. It's free. Nobody deal. But we can offer more to our audiences if they choose to collect. That becomes our monetization model. It also becomes
our community building model and that's how we can sustain ourselves as creators going forward. So I appreciate Bonfire very much. I think what they're doing is amazing and I'm excited that we have the tools available to do it now, whereas we haven't in the past. So we've got Charlie up here. We've got Cryptoversal myself.
You've got three users of Bonfire. If you've got questions about Bonfire, anything about how we've built these websites or who these websites are for or ideas that you're thinking about and wanting to know the capabilities of, come on up here.
to ask a question, love to have you up on stage. Feel free to ask away. We'll do our best to answer. Charlie is a wealth of knowledge and Charlie, you and I, you know, you're help with the livestream and the site and all of that was invaluable. Tell me a little bit about
You launch chat today or the threads today. What are some other items on the roadmap in the future that you guys would like to see added to the bonfire tool set?
Sorry, there was a question for me. Yeah. Yeah, so we did indeed launch threads today. It's basically our innovative chat feature that takes
community engagement to the next level I would say. As Bonfire we truly believe that community engagement is a vital aspect of the creator economy and basically threats is our
very like one of our major steps towards building more social experiences in Bonfire. I cannot mention much about what we have in the story for the roadmap, but there's definitely some cool announcement and a very important announcement coming on tomorrow, so it's in tune for that.
But yeah, we like to give a general overview of what we're building. Definitely more customization coming to Bonfire, more cool integrations coming as well besides the send and sound. And yeah, definitely more features.
to turn from part of the most social platform. You can't drop any early alpha for the right three community Charlie. I see I see how it is. Okay, we'll wait. I can't. I would have to ask for authorization and then it may take somewhere around five to ten minutes.
uh, uh, cryptoversal, uh, give us, give us your last word, share with us where we can find your work and any, uh, party thoughts that you might have, uh, about bonfire and sort of creator, uh, websites. Yes, sir. So my bonfire site is at
cryptaversalbooks.io. Today's drop is Carmilla by Sherdon Leffanue. This is the vampire story that inspired Brahms Stoker's Dracula. The midpage has a thread on it.
has the thread feature on it. So if you jump over there and have some questions about the book or have some questions about me or or crypt reversal books, you can ask it in the thread and I'll see it now and we can chat in the thread and keep the conversation going. That's so cool. I
just said hello on your site by the way you and I can nerd out on your on your thread I love it that's awesome thanks for being up here appreciate it Charlie give you the last word tell us a little bit about where we can find you know bonfire and if someone's listening to
to this. Where do they need to go and to get started and give us all the details on Bonfire? My pleasure Bonfire right now, since December is open for everybody. It's open to the public. So if anybody of you guys
want to go and create your account and get started messing around with bonfire you can go to bonfire.xwc and you can just sign in and get going you can also find us on twitter @bonfire_tweets and me personally if you have any questions I'm happy to be around
resource if you have any questions, if you have any ideas or just basically you want to jam about what you can build on PONFIRE. I'm always available through my DMs. My Twitter handle is @ITSCharlieCround and yeah, I'm happy to hear from you guys, happy to be
resource for your experience with Bonfire. And yeah, I'm here to help. Anyway, I can. Nice. Excellent. Well, another great, right three show, an excellent overview of Bonfire. I love everything that you guys are building. And it's exciting.
that the tools are now available for us to build. And so thank you so much, Charlie. Thank you, Cryptoversal. Thanks to all of you on the audience today. I hope this was a valuable use of your time.
We'll have the replay on podcast later in the week, but with that said enjoy your Tuesday Let's go out and continue to build and write Web 3 together enjoy the day y'all
Thanks Greg. Thank you for having me. You bet. Bye guys.