all right hello hello good morning good evening good afternoon can everyone hear me all right
yeah all good okay nice nice um thank you everyone for joining my name is joe um i'm on the marketing
team and i've been working for say for about two years now so um it's my pleasure to be here hosting
this spaces alongside um tanya who is behind the say and marines account as well as super saiyan
bot and crypto kelly joining for we pump so hope everyone's doing all right um let's go ahead and
just uh start with introductions uh tanya would you like to introduce yourself yeah thanks so much
so i'm tanya i handle the same marines account and i've been at safe for about three months now from
the marketing team as well nice nice and uh who do we have running the super saiyan bot uh account today
hey man i'm goku from super saiyan bot i'm the founder of um super saiyan bot and also um
developers and also um yeah i'm the founder all right nice goku should be easy enough to remember
given the significance of dbz in the say ecosystem so very nice to meet you goku super excited to
hear about kind of what you're doing with super saiyan bot and more importantly like talk a little
bit about how um these bots have kind of taken over um the trading you know world and and how
we trade coins so excited to hear about that in the future and uh the you know and uh crypto kelly
from we bump how's it going um a community favorite we bump for sure hey thanks uh for having us on
i'm uh crypto kelly i'm a web3 researcher investor and advocate and i'm the marketing bd of
we bump the nft infrastructure and tooling for say and we're super excited to be working with
super saiyan bot and the say team as we keep growing the ecosystem and moving into this
next phase of the growth it's been really fun nice happy to hear that and major props to you
guys and we bump both the teams up here um i've been seeing you guys on the tl and kind of
been seeing you guys making waves um i i see tanya on me to go ahead tanya sorry to interrupt you if i did
no no all good i think we can kind of get started so i'd love to kind of know
a little bit more about both of your stories how did you guys get into crypto and yeah
um so i'm started uh in uh central exchange about um 2018 for product managers and um we built
a big part of bot for um exchange exchanges and also uh we have built a few bots for
arbitrage uh team for trading yeah so i started in crypto around like 2017 to 2018
nice nice uh similar story to myself actually uh my first nft was the pudgy penguins collection
which i definitely sold way too early um but crypto kelly what about you when was your first
um you know introduction into the crypto ecosystem what got you addicted to the space
uh similar to everyone else here i definitely started in 21 with the dogecoin craze i kind of
bought early in that and watched that whole craziness happen and it kind of showed me that
there was a lot of attention on this space and that there was something else here other than
just the normal mainstream narrative and nfts were something that really appealed to me as a
former professional musician because i saw it as a way for artists and really any kind of creative
to capture their value of their work again and um so i started looking into music nfts and then i found
pfps and my big introduction into the space was boreocu dragons on salana and i really saw
through that community that there was an entire industry in this field and that it really had
a lot of intricacy and development that was needed and so i just kind of started working my
way through and writing about my experience and now my research blog has 20 000 readers
and it's just been fun for me to be able to be myself and share everything that i'm learning
and kind of have a way to express that and share that yo what that's huge what instrument did you
play before we go over anything else i think we need to cover that i primarily was a bass player
for 25 years and then i also played guitar drums piano and sang and so i kind of did
a lot of touring with bands all over the us in different cities and then also played a solo
show when i lived in the bay i was playing in like hotels and restaurants and other random
bands and stuff that that is quite remarkable thank you for uh sharing that little bit about
your past uh crypto kelly i think we all appreciate that you become a pretty big
part of the say ecosystem so it's it's really fascinating to hear um tanya i saw you unmuted for
a second is there anything you wanted to uh add to that before we go to the next question
yeah i also wanted to know what your research blog is called
it's mostly token gated behind discords right now it's kind of a bit exclusive uh i mostly
write in the magic eden discord writing in the alpha channel there and then also in
underground dal and a few others like um we bump as well so it's mostly spread throughout
discords and then i also write medium articles as well oh wow that's really cool
thanks all right nice okay so um i guess now that we kind of know you guys a little bit there's
one thing that i want to ask you crypto kelly while i got you up here we also brought we bump
up here i don't know if alex is here or if we're just gonna have the pleasure of speaking with you
today but what in the world is a cw 404 is there like a tldr you can give me the audience i know
maybe we talked about this a little bit last spaces but i think it would be a good refresher
i know that goku can probably go into a bit more specifics because that's kind of what he's
working on right now but my basic understanding of it is that there is the nft that also is a token
and so the tokens are basically you set an amount so let's say one nft is 10 000 tokens
and if you have 10 000 of the token which you can buy on a dex the nft appears in your wallet
and it's kind of generative like that but if you sell like a thousand of that and of that token
then the nft is burned so it's a way for people to incrementally build up their token accumulation
in a fractionalized way to get a whole nft instead of having to buy for the whole thing all at once
and then there's a lot of arbitrage too that can happen between the nft sales on the marketplace
and then the token sales on the dex and it seems pretty complicated in terms of you have to have a
lot of variables with the lp and having a lot of things figured out beforehand also i think it's
going to have some interesting implications with rarity as well i think it's going to maybe help
the generative art community kind of find more of a way to have more liquidity in their art
because then rarity won't matter as much as just the generation that happens individually so
i'm sure that goku can talk about it more but that's kind of my basic understanding
yeah thank you thank you for that context yeah i'd love to hear more from you goku as well if
you have anything to share but it seems like this might be the innovation in nfts that
myself and a lot of other people have been waiting for something new to bring to the space outside
of what we've currently been doing which i think has been awesome but something new and exciting
goku do you have anything to add about the cw 404 which is a really sick name by the way i like that
yeah man um so yeah it's like um crypto kelly said but um uh originally for the 404 contract is
from pandora so they set as one tokens to one nfts so whenever your wallet hold one
tokens then the contract will like mean you um one nfts so uh in cw44 we have a lot of flexibility
on the amount of how much of the token you hold and contract will like mean you
one nfts so um this gives us a lot of flexibility and also um a huge
advance to to play around like we can have like one billions of tokens we have we can have like
10 billions or one trillions of the tokens and we can like set a different amount of
the the tokens eligible to the contract will mean you one nfts so in pandora it's just like 10k
tokens if i'm not mistaken so it can grow your communities and also your holder base to
like super huge it can be a token base of um how how you see on meme coin or community coin
or any kind of coin they are they're holding a mouse because if it's an nfts project you only
can have like few keys or you can only have like few hundreds of holders but if
with cw44 maybe you can have like 10 000 20 000 or 100 000 of holders but this depends on
the holding fractions of the nfts or the whole like uh full piece of the nfts so yeah i mean
see the the the four four four protocol is super sick and super innovations to bring
liquidity and also the flexibility on um how a creator and how holders can
maximize all like all their aiming can can become true
yeah for sure i think it's a really cool way to also grow the community uh for nft projects
and so i also wanted to ask you a little bit more you know um focused on what you're building
with super saiyan bots so i wanted to understand you know how does using a telegram board to trade
coins actually increase user experience yep um so partially i have built a few bots for
a change team and also arbitrage team but more is like cli base or
um a web base but is totally for pro traders and when it comes to
like using wallet and go to dex to execute a trade there's a lot of factors that you need to be
um they'd be watching like slippage or gas fees like how in solana right now
there's only way to trade is using the bot you you you can't swap normally from
from dexes when you wanted to like swap a mem coin or super trending coin because the
the dexes and also the contract will will be occupied by all the bots so
we we wanted to um simplify a lot of um the steps of trading so you just go into your telegram
just copy the contract address you just paste and in whatever amount you want to buy hit the buy
button three seconds yeah the TS is done so um it's like how bomb bot and also maestro bot on
ethereum so i think i think this will be the the trend for future of trading because
we need to like simplify as much as possible of the step so yeah i think this is what we are
we are building and also increasing all the experience
it it almost seems like i have my own personal broker in telegram and basically it's like my
own little assistant that kind of helps me you know get my transactions through and kind of
get me the price that i'm quoted for instead of um kind of sitting at the dex uh ui and just
trying to spam transactions through so it seems like a really unique the question i have is is there
a specific reason that telegram was chosen for this can this be done in you know maybe discord
for example or something else or is it just because every crypto native has a tg i'm kind of
curious about that yeah so um talk about the um communications apps like tigrams discord or whatsapp
or even vchat so um if a normal person i mean a newbies or normies come to cryptos since when
when i started my my crypto journey when i first tried using discord i was like super panicked for
a week because i i don't know what to do i'm super like there's a lot of things to to take care
on discord like channels like like all the groups and like a lot of messages in many many kind of
um channels and servers so if you are not familiar with discord you you you need to
take a long time to learn the process of using commands in discord and um why we build on
diagram is because of the open api their flexibility of api and how you can build
um apps and also um using the api to build apps and throw into diagrams if if whatsapp is
allow us to build like this i will build on whatsapp because the the largest the largest
communication apps is whatsapp and diagrams so um to to adopt and also onboard as much as
people i think telegram is the the best way to to onboard them in trading since using our
telegram bots okay okay makes makes uh makes total sense just kind of the convenience of telegram
wechat would be ideal since it has the most user base but just with how telegram is set up and
their apis and all that stuff that's beyond my scope it's easier so okay good to know thank you
for uh the transparency um tony i didn't know if you wanted to kind of go ahead with the next
question yeah so actually i really uh relate to your story of how you mentioned that when you first
kind of got into the space and you were really freaked out with the discord servers and because
i know it can be quite overwhelming for anyone who's new to the space and so what i really
wanted to ask you was you know did you have any funny or interesting nft related experiences
that you can share that both of you can share um crypto kelly and goku uh from when you guys
first got into the space yeah i think i think the first first thing is of course um nft because
when i started in crypto there's no nfts so when um when i first see nfts
on if and i don't know what is that i was like why people buying jpeg or png for for this price
and slowly by like going with the times and there's a lot of project that popping off
then i started to like collect or mean like a lot of projects so um when when i started collecting
nfts i bought a lot of shit like i see the arts like oh this is nice this is nice but
all all the arts like super rock or their fake fake collections but i spent a lot of monies like
i think like 30k on buying rug and also buying those fake collections
and yeah i see a lot of um like celebrities feeling like they are nfts collections then i
just just for more going in and spend another like 100k on order nfts so yeah i think i think
this is this is the the process of enormous coming in cryptos because there's a lot of like
similar things and um a lot of fake collections
yeah for sure i think everyone kind of goes through this process how about you cryptor kelly
this space is nothing but entertaining all the time i feel like there's always something amusing
happening and i think the first concept i had to grasp was just how does this picture have value
and i think it made sense to me through music of course like this is someone's art it's someone's
work um so thinking about it from the creative side and uh i just really the the i would say
the things that have impacted me the most have been seeing that even though people look at this
space as like a giant online casino there is an actual professionalism and industry here
surrounding this because the underlying technology has so many uses and um that's something that
really grabbed me and i liked the aspect of like okay the tokens make sense as a financial product
but having the nft add art to it was really interesting to me and i think we've seen how
it has so much emotional resonance with people where they become like extremely tribal between
their collections because they have so much emotional resonance with that image and that's
just something that i really found was interesting and like with bo riyoku was a very interesting mint
to me because the mint just kind of happened and then all of a sudden it was blowing up
and that was really surprising i had never seen something like that in my life like wow this
thing went from 260 to 50 000 all at like within the span of a month and a half or something so
it was really crazy to see that there was this amount of money in something that was like just a
pixelated dragon and it's just really funny to me what people can throw money into because of
the aspect of speculation or they have a higher risk tolerance because they understand
like something that a lot of other people don't at least normal people especially
hey what 100 agree with with both you guys there i actually got hired at say labs because i met
somebody who was working at say in an nft discord so i think one of the most like underrated
aspects of the nft space has nothing to do with like the underlying technology but like the
community building and just like the sense of belonging that it kind of provides
you know a lot of us especially with the pandemic that we had we were kind of
home bodies and we were all looking for like a sense of belonging a place of belonging and
trading was fun and you know the nfts are volatile so you can lose a lot but you can make a lot
and stuff like that added aspect but the community is definitely the my favorite part so
um yeah enough of enough hijacking the spaces uh tommy would you like to do a special segment
which is a new part of the ecosystem spaces maybe yeah for sure so we have a really exciting new
segment that we've added to our ecosystem amas and it's like a rapid fire so i'm just gonna
shoot some questions and uh i'd love both of you to answer as fast as possible uh goku and
krypto kelly so should we get started okay what was the first nft that you both bought
i think it's something like a monkey or a ape something i forget the collection names
that that's a that's a pretty safe bet that's like 90 percent of the collections
a hard work you krypto kelly it was this uh project on ethereum called cool cows and i had no clue what
i was doing i like managed to get eith onto my metamask and i spent like 330 dollars and they
just hard rubbed right away welcome to energy here you go you know yeah sounds about right
okay okay what's your current favorite nft project azuki okay yeah that's a good one
how about you there's so many there's so many but um i would say clainosaurus is definitely
up there because i see so much potential in them okay next question joe would you like to uh do
you have something to add no i was just i mean don't know they both of them didn't say any
same projects my heart's broken we're early we still have a lot of space to grow
i can't pick a favorite yeah i love them all
yeah uh okay what's the weirdest thing you've heard of being turned into an nft
um daily selfie guy i mean i mean the guy with his daily selfie photos oh yeah i remember that one
he's he's back i saw him i saw him on the feed today he's back i just read it
i guess i would say it's the i mean it's funny to see all the animals but i like the funnier ones
are the human ones on salana in like 2022 there was stock tylers and like that random dude in
like a bunch of different outfits and i just thought that was so hilarious and like unique to the space
yeah yeah yeah for sure okay next question are meme coins here to stay or will market bad
um i would say it's to market fat okay
i think yeah we're definitely heading into a different direction um the
the meme coins have an appeal to a certain type of trader but all of the institutional money coming
into bitcoin gives like at least crypto a legitimacy so it's been really cool to see that shift in the
institutional mindset and i think meme coins are just the speculators trying to grab as much as
they can as fast as they can before the real like huge bull run starts yep yep yeah totally
agree okay last question what change would you like to see happening in the nft space
um more flexibility i guess
i definitely would like to see more 404 experimentation i think it's still new
it's still early but it would be awesome to see more reputable artists kind of figuring
out how their generative art can be used in this way and i know it's a bit complicated but
i would love to see that yeah for sure i definitely think it's a really cool kind of
innovation that's happening in this space so i personally would also want to see more of that
hey i have a quick question about 404 that i think would be helpful context for the audience as well
is this something that like for example could i take my wee bump sloth and one day if you guys
decide to make it 404 could you or does it have to be a collection that mints with the 404 standard
from day one um or is there a way to wrap existing collections for example
i think this is small questions to be bummed
i would say that from what i know it would be very complicated to kind of back uh backwards
compatibility the nfts but maybe somebody will do it eventually and right now the way that the
liquidity pool is structured and stuff it really is so much easier to do it all at the same time
right off the bat okay okay makes sense um tanya what do you think if we let up some of the say
community to ask some questions themselves and then we'll wrap up the spaces and let these teams
head off before the weekend does that sound like a good plan yeah sounds good i see we already have
a request from josh so i'm gonna add him as a speaker but for anyone else who might have
questions please feel free to request
how's it going josh are you with us i know you've been requesting for a while
so i'm not sure if you uh are still here
um we will have people there from save labs phillip will be there i might be there i'm not
sure yet we'll see but i would love to see the say community the last say events i went to were
last year in the bear market and we were not that cool at the time when we tell you guys
it was not it would not be the same experience as it is today so we'll see we'll see um i did
bring up someone else katelyn gm nice cal if you have any questions for the teams here
hi thank you i hope i hope you hear me look i i'm going to be very very short i just found out
about say and uh last night i bought something on gate io i don't know if i did it good or not
the gate io was the best option for me and uh i also like nfts so i have some here and there
i don't have uh i don't have the ones that i always dream about right but there's time
and i wanted to ask you what's the wallet uh that i can use or what marketplace that i can browse
around and find new collections and find out about about this network if you can help me i'll be
grateful yeah uh i think crypto kelly would you like to give him the brief introduction for context
um katelyn this is uh um one of the top projects on the say ecosystem and they also provide a lot
of the infrastructure um that allows nft teams to mint in the say ecosystem so they're a really
big player here so um go ahead crypto kelly compass wallet is probably the easiest to use
with say right now and then um the major exchanges are palette and uh there's another one called
digora but uh palette seems to have the the a lot of the market share right now so that's
kind of the two places that you want to go if you want to get an entity good good thank you
and i wanted to ask you like i i only own like nfts on the multiverse x i don't know if you know
it about the eagle and stuff like that so basically we have the exporter wallet right
and uh from the exporter you can basically browse around like everything you can go on
the marketplace on multiple marketplaces you can go on everything you can send messages to the
sellers you can uh i think for some collections even you can modify the royalty uh percentage and
stuff like that i'm curious if this is also possible over here so if you can tell me
not yeah uh that would definitely be a project for somebody to do i think say has a lot of
market share open for wallets and uh compass is really working well right now but it doesn't
have a lot of the functionalities of the major players like metamask or phantom yeah
yeah so that means that we need to find the right people right so we can all grow together
yeah if i can help man i don't know i mean i'm here to learn things you know i mean i'm a very
very busy individual i would like to i would like to know more about crypto and nfts and stuff like
that but i really don't have time like basically when i have time i'm on it but you know how it is
sometimes when you get the information from 100 sources your mind gets blown you know you're just
you're just dead you just don't know what to understand anymore but slowly slowly we will
get there but uh yeah anyway thank you thank you very much i will check it now and uh also yeah
i don't think and i don't want to say stupid thing but i don't think that there's a problem
that i bought it from gate are you right like probably later i can move it to to the compass
wallet or stuff yeah not at all friend it's a pretty reputable exchange and thanks for coming
up and asking um your question i think your pfp is a cow cow i think the multiverse i think you'll
like it here i'd say because similar to multiverse the nft ecosystem here is very robust and it's
definitely a big part of the sei community so i think you'll enjoy it amazing amazing thank you
thank you thank you thank you all right i got dog wiz good uh good morning mr dob how's it going
nice pfc thank you thank you appreciate it yeah i just changed it the other day
and thank you hey man job thank you for having the space guys crypto kelly you know super saying thank
you guys for showing up appreciate you guys and all you do um really quick i i wanted to give
some feedback to super saiyan bot if that's okay yeah man yeah so so i was using your bot right
and on telegram and it's great but can i offer some advice please just let me drop the ca
anywhere in the chat don't make me go and hit buy to sell and then tell me like
hey now you can input the token like no we need speed and this is the fastest chain i just want
to throw that ca right in there have that shit pop up and me hit that buy button as fast as
possible that's all thank you yeah man that's our next update you're rebooking on it
awesome oh that's great i love that i love that you guys are already aware of that so thank you thank
you yeah no problem thanks for the feedback thank you dog wiz appreciate you and everything
you do for the ecosystem man um thomas crypto boy a man who goes by many names good morning
gm gm yeah i think i i just want to i don't know when to carry the same name around
yeah so that's actually true so shout out to everyone shout out to every contributor within
the ecosystem tell you like when can i meet you this is my question who me yeah shoot man i don't
know we're kind of across the world right now i think uh you gotta come across the pond or i gotta
come across the pond one or the other brother okay all right all right so so i didn't really
have a question that was my question dude hey i appreciate you bro this is a fun spaces man
one day we will meet it's been a few years now we've been working together to grow the
ecosystem so one day brother we'll make it happen yeah definitely yeah
nice i we got up clark here clark a very pivotal player in the sei ecosystem would you like to
introduce yourself sir hey guys how's it going today good brother good how are you not too bad i
just wanted to uh to poke my head in about catalin's question um so i i do some work with
the cappies team uh one of the aspects of what i do over on on that team is i write
educational content uh for the sei ecosystem so if you check out the cappies twitter page
scroll all the way down to the bottom um i think a lot of the things that you were looking for
are going to be spelled out in a really nice uh educational video with uh with an actor kind
of talking through everything um we're going to be putting out another one today actually
maybe tomorrow but i think later today it's actually going to be a 10 minute educational video
about everything that you would need to know about v2 and we want to make it fun so we're
actually gonna we actually have an actor that's just eating progressively spicier and spicier
wings throughout the explanation until he basically can't talk anymore so i hope you guys enjoy it
hey that sounds super sick man i'm i'm excited to see that i will reply to you
right after the spaces and we'll get that kind of uh situated so the sei community can see that
appreciate you coming up here bro sounds good hope you're doing well you as well man okay we got
one more speaker and then maybe we'll wrap it up and i would say touch grass this weekend but
it just snowed here in the midwest so just enjoy the weekend i should say so let's bring up this
last speaker and then we'll give some time back to the team no don't worry don't don't cry stu
all right can you how you doing what's up man
go ahead oh it's me yes sir oh my gosh i'm so sorry dude i was having like connection issues
it said i was a listener so i was like fumbling around okay good um thanks for having me on um
nice to meet you guys gm gm um quick questions so in terms of if i want to find more information
on just small events or say events going on in nyc um i'm going to be there and i want to
kind of know you know where i could find more information on that stuff either with you guys
or with you know partnerships and stuff like that yeah definitely i would just follow the
account i'm speaking on we're going to be posting similar to what we did to denver um
kind of the luma events and all the side events will be at um on the sei main page twitter this
one i'm speaking on with the gold tick so um just stay tuned all the content's ready so we'll just be
shipping in at an appropriate time which what a win is nfd i'm gonna see like next week two weeks
so soon awesome yeah i'm excited i'm excited to meet some of you guys i'm excited to meet
some other projects um i've been talking with pallet too i know that there i guess something's
going on so uh i'm excited to you know just vibe out so thank you hey thank you great question i
i think this is a good point to kind of end on like the sei team and the sei ecosystem is
like we we really really appreciate the nft culture that is happening on sei i think a lot of
you guys saw the most recent coin gecko ranking where we were ranked number eight most popular
blockchains by interest and i don't think that would have been possible without all the exciting
nft kind of happening is going on in the ecosystem so um and meme coins as well all the d-gen activities
frankly so thank you guys for you know sticking with the sei community sticking with the sei
ecosystem trying out the chain using the stuff that we're building and for coming to these spaces
and and uh listening to these teams so enough rambling on my end i'll give the the stage to
the teams to give some closing statements and then we'll wrap it up uh go ahead webo
i totally agree with you there um it's been amazing to watch the journey so far and to see how
much sei is kind of speed running the nft market life cycle because of the technology and the ease
of use and the accessibility and so it's been really cool to watch how fast everything is
going and i'm super excited for the future and also uh i'll be there nft nyc so let's meet
ups to anybody else uh hit me up and you can show me why i should be back in america for the first
time in three years awesome man awesome i might make the trip to nyc just to meet you it would
be it'd be remarkable um super saying a lot you got any closing statements before we wrap up the stage
yeah um i think i think sei is super great to build so um yeah let's let's make sei define
sei stronger even from now to v2 i think there's a lot of possibility to build on v2
so if there's any project that wanted to build on sei you can start now and drop in um sei discord
and ask about how to build on v2 we are excited to meet you guys
awesome man it was very nice to meet you as well and a special thank you to tanya for joining
me as a co-host from the sein marines account thank you so much tanya i appreciate it i
might have to make this a regular thing thanks so much for having me and thank you to everyone
who joined uh and of course we really appreciate me bum and super sein bot for coming on uh yeah
and thanks joe thank you guys we'll see everyone in discord or on twitter or around try to go
outside this weekend remember what it looks like that's all i ask so cheers everybody take care