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E.D.R: Exploring The Natural Rhythm of Action & Reflection. 🤔✨
Recorded: June 12, 2025 Duration: 3:44:43Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion, participants explored the evolving landscape of the crypto industry, touching on key topics such as project launches, partnerships, and the importance of mental health awareness. The conversation highlighted the need for personal growth and the impact of community support, emphasizing that success is not solely defined by financial metrics but also by individual fulfillment and well-being.
Full Transcription
Thank you. $25,000 plus a couple utilities. Fuck it, I pay it just to keep the tranquility. Fuck it, I let y'all do anything for yourself.
Settle down with y'all, don't want nobody grilling me.
Y'all boys lame, shit killing me.
Need to be reintroduced to humility.
I ain't looking for no hip-hop credibility.
Give a fuck who feeling me.
I'm feeling me.
I'm really him.
I'm really that remedy.
Hemadie, Chalamet, pretty girl, salivate.
On the low, off the grid, in the cut, out the way.
My primes in full swing like a Callaway.
I need a dime, Mary Dollar, New Balance makes.
You bout to let the world take my smile away.
People that betray me don't even fuckin' know that I know it's somethin' that I just follow away.
Lost a few M's on the festival, okay, and I can't wait to do the second one.
All these little high heels sittin' in the vestibule.
Welcome to a best friend, sleepin' on a sectional.
Fans still say they miss Jack with the spectacles.
Last project, I was giving you conceptual.
Next project, I'll be giving you exceptional.
Fuck, everybody got me on some pansexual.
Julie Greenwald asking if I'm on schedule.
Label ready for the next record.
I'll let you know about the ass guest sharing what they gave him last time.
That he went to renegotiate the decimals.
Every day I grow a little less accessible.
Less of a people pleaser,
less flexible, more simplistic, soulful, less technical. The world's my oyster. I'm about to get my dog a perpetual. I don't know why some of y'all skeptical. Maybe because we got the same
passion, but you never went professional. I just know it's something about me that's detestable.
New G-Wagon, that bitch is electrical. The hate got to me, but I had to act straight like I'm
trying to seem hetero. Used to kill locals, not a crime scene federal.
I'm proud of what we've done, but I'm trying to be better though.
Cause I don't really think I've made nothing incredible.
Lot of hard verses and a couple regrettable.
As far as big records go, yeah, I got a few of those.
But I ain't done nothing indisputable.
Maybe I'm delusional.
I just left the old me's funeral.
I would turn the camera on and get you more of me like I used to do.
But something about it don't seem suitable.
Something about selling myself feels you're so juvenile.
400 degrees out, my knees out, walking around Louisville.
Life's beautiful, when every impulse you have is quite doable.
I'm gonna keep telling the truth as per usual.
if the sky is pink and white if the ground is black and yellow it's the same way you showed me
Not my head, don't close my eyes, halfway on a slow motion
It's the same way you showed me
If you could fly then you'd feel south, up north's getting cold soon
The way it is we're on land, so I'm someone I'll hold true
Keep you cool when it's still alive
won't let you down when it's all downhill from here
In the wake of a hurricane
Dark skin of a summer shade
Nosedive in the flood lines
Tall tower, milk crate It's the same way you showed me.
Cannonball off the porch side, older kids trying off the roof, just the same way you showed me you were shocked.
If you could die, come back to life, upper air from the swimming pool pool You kneel down to the dry land
Kiss the earth at birth
You gave your tools just to stay alive
And make it up when the sun is ruined
That's the same way you showed
Showed
You showed
The love
Glory from your shoulders
Oh When the number strikes run in edges, maybe yes
I keep it nappy and I do what made me happy
And nobody can deny me that I'm blessed
I might be rough around the edges, maybe yes
I keep it nappy and I do what made me happy
And nobody can deny me that I'm blessed
Self-preservation, self-elevation
These kind of these may deserve celebration
No hesitation, no reservation
Go for the big leagues, no relegation
Let's celebrate life, kick back and take five
And give thanks to the source that create life
To see a sunset or see a sunrise And see my sunburn with these same eyes I'm feeling blessed. I like it. Yeah, yeah, truly Make I tell you, say my life is like a movie I never tell you all these things I don't see truly
Say my eyes don't see
Before my life come meet
Say many tries to fool me
But I did pray for my enemies and truly
And I did pray for my kids, that's my blessing
Pray for the friends at last
I pray you never see no loss
Yeah, that's why I'm precious
Feet on depression We never seen all us, yeah That's what I'm pressure, we turn to pressure
We're gonna start soon y'all I guess I had this coming, the rain was bound to fall
I'm not ready, How could you be steady? I made the bed, but I can't sleep without you messing up with me. Now I'm a mess. Ain't that funny? And I don't want to know.
I just gotta know.
Does she make you laugh?
Does she make you cry?
Does she scratch your back?
Does she make you satisfied?
Oh, are you satisfied?
Does she know your past?
Does she know your dreams? Does she know your dreams?
Would she give it all just to make you happy?
Oh, are you happy?
I know that I'm not perfect for you
I really tried how to let you slip away.
I can't bear another day.
Seems you've got new plans as you should.
Somewhere our names are etched in wood.
Ain't that funny
Ain't that funny?
Hi, y'all.
I don't want to get copyrighted, so...
Give me a second.
Yo, y'all hear me?
What's good, Kevin?
Yeah, I can hear you.
I was literally going to say that, Kev.
After all that, like after five minutes ten minutes of music
you're like I don't want to get copyrighted oh my god nah you know that that's the homegirl man
you know I wanna and I think did I play full songs with other ones I don't think I did like
I went like close to the end but I was like eh you know what I mean so yo what's up everybody
welcome man welcome welcome welcome Rachel Israel yo israel i just want to say this real quick
publicly thank you guys thank you so much because i needed that and i'll just land there
jackie i see you bonuke i see you down there why is you ready i sent you the co-host i don't know
if you can if you can't take it it's all it, it's all good, man. It's all good. We
chilling. So yeah, you know, this topic, EDR, exploring the natural rhythm of action and
reflection. And guys, my apologies if I go on a little monologue. It's only because, hey, it's
1.11 my time. So shout out to y'all. But the only reason is because this topic is very personal for
me. And I don't want to hear
myself speak the whole time. So I just want to get this shit out and then have y'all, you know,
speak and, you know, we can have a conversation as usual, housekeeping rules. Feel free to grab
a mic. Jackie, I see you're trying to come up. Let me bring you up real quick. Um, listeners,
feel free to interact with us, man. Drop your comments down in the purple pill.
You know, there might be some cheers you might hear.
You might want to reflect upon.
Or maybe your initial thoughts as the space continues to progress throughout the whole time.
And yeah, man.
And maybe some people might catch the playback and they might look at the comments.
And, you know, it might impact them as well.
So definitely interact with us.
This is a space for everybody.
So and lastly, you know, I am very structured sometimes, but I'm also very free flow with it.
So it really depends on the amount of speakers that are going to be here. You know what I mean?
Let's just keep it respectful, though. We don't have to talk over each other.
But other than that, just vibe, man, just vibe, chill, vibe, and I'm ready to hear from y'all.
So in relation to the topic, I have a little bit of notes here,
but I'm going to skim through it because I want to honor our co-hosts that are here,
as well as Reg, I see your hand.
So engaging and disengaging and reengaging, right?
So for me, when I think about engaging, the one word that comes to mind is action or being active, right?
And it could be in any situation, right?
It could be in conversations with people.
It could be pursuing projects, right?
Pursuing whatever your creative pursuits are.
It could be just working on problems.
It could be just working on problems.
It could be a math problem or it could be anything, right?
It could be a math problem or it could be anything, right?
However, I think there can be times whereby we can over-engage.
And so if we over-engage, then how do we mitigate that?
How do we alleviate that?
And so I think that's where disengaging comes into the forefront, whereby we choose to take a pause, right?
Disengaging can also mean a lot of different things, not just taking a pause, because sometimes it can come off as, oh, I'm just going to quit,
and not necessarily. But one thing I want to talk about too, an example in relation to sports,
and I'm going to just tie this to soccer. When I think about soccer, I think both
engaging and disengaging can happen at the same time, depending on one's level of awareness and
alertness, right? So there's the engaging whereby you're physically on the field, right? You're
playing, right? You're being active. However, we call it soccer IQ, right? So depending on one's
level of soccer IQ, their level of engagement in terms of how they read the game, they read the situations, the people around them, the players that they're going against, right?
How to operate in tight spaces, this and the third.
It takes a lot of focus.
A lot of focus.
You have to be really in tune.
And I think that can be applicable in different moments as well. So when we do decide to take that pause, when do we decide to re-engage into the activities that we're involved in or the conversations that maybe we decided to take a pause on, et cetera, et cetera.
So with that being said, I want to pass it over to Arnie, and I want to ask her a question too.
And then we're going to go to Wise just to check in if she wants to comment on the topic as well. But Arnie, as I was just thinking about this topic too, I know Kevin does this as well. Shout out to Kevin and the Startup Circle.
being active as space hosts.
And, you know, I just see a lot of engagement.
So I wonder, what does unwinding or taking a pause look like for you?
And, yeah, when do you pick your moments when that happens?
And then after that, we'll go to Kevin to respond.
And Reg, I saw you.
I saw you, bro.
We definitely got to go to you.
And Wise, feel free to chime in whenever.
But I definitely want to tap in from you.
And then Jackie on stage. Everybody, feel free to grab a mic. So I definitely want to tap in from you and then Jackie on stage everybody feel free to grab a mic so I definitely want to hear thoughts
on you what's good good good oh my god so happy to be here thank you so much for having me and
I can't wait to jump into the conversation first of all uh shout out to everyone who's here uh
Kevin I see you in both places it's so cool um same thing Okay. So I just want to quickly grasp that question a little bit better.
I think you asked, like, how do I manage the engagement and doing all the spaces and everything?
Is that what the question was?
Yes.
Okay, perfect.
And it could be in a general sense, too. Not just with spaces, but I thought that would be perfect because that's where I see the engagement so yeah perfect I love that question um uh okay so first of all I
live here okay I live on x I live here 24 7 I do spaces 24 7 basically um I also work um I work in
social media so being on x is never a um never a loss for me, right? I can either be working, I could be spending personal
time with my friends, I could be educating people. So being on X, like literally is never a waste for
me. And I like to, I don't like to, like, cut out my time, like, let's say, like, this is the amount
of time that I'm going to do engagement, this is the amount of time I'm going to do spaces or
whatever else, because it's all part of my life, essentially, right? Even when I'm doing research, or even when I'm meeting people and networking
with people, I am networking as a professional as well, because I work in social media, like I said,
the more people I meet, the more, more people I get to, you know, maybe work with, there's also
things that we can collaborate on. Like Kevin is a really good
example where, you know, we've been collaborating with a lot of different things. There's a lot of
things that we're cooking together in the background as well. So, you know, this is never a
like waste of time for me. And I just like to keep things flowing. I let everything and speaking of
like natural rhythm, that is my natural rhythm just to be
doing whatever comes my way, right? Like right now, I will tell you, like I'm in two spaces at
the same time, because I want to support pretty much everyone. If I can handle it, I'll do it.
I'll make it happen. You know what I mean? And I'm also like doing work in the background.
Again, comes to like, you know, social media stuff. So it all
works in synergy for me. And I just keep it that way. No, yeah, I appreciate that. And one thing
I actually forgot to touch on as well is the way I phrased this topic, right, it does come off as
cyclical in nature. But it's also nonlinear, because it's going to be relative to that
individual's experience. So I like what you just said there, because if engaging is part of your natural rhythm
and it's life-giving for you, being in constant engagement and being self-aware, okay, maybe
I need to take a pause there, if need be, then yeah, I don't think there's anything
wrong with that too.
So shout out to you.
And I want to at least say hi to Wise, because she is a co-host. So Wise, how are you doing? And then we're going to go out to you and i want to at least say hi to wise because she is
a co-host so wise how you doing then we're going to go straight to kevin and then reg
you're chilling i i guess the hearts was the response wise be chilling man she she definitely
picks a moment she doesn't like speaking for the sake of it. So I respect that. Kevin, what's good, bro? Yeah, what's good, Prez? I mean, Ani, you took the words right out
of my mouth too, is how do you combine, you know, relaxing with engaging and, you know, building your
brand here? And for me, spaces never, ever feels like work. So my situation is a little bit different
in the sense that as of over just a little over a year
ago, I moved to Mexico and there is that little bit of a language barrier where I don't speak
the language, right? I've been here for a year. I haven't, you know, practiced it one little bit.
So I don't really get to go out and really talk to a lot of people, you know, on such a casual
note. And when I do, it becomes very, very complicated to do so with having to pull up
Google Translate and, you know, it just becomes really complicated. But spaces, just like Ani was saying, X is our home. Spaces
are fantastic because it's the only place where I'm really able to go out and actually talk to
people and feel a lot more personalized with people as well. So you mix in both relaxation
because it doesn't feel like work. It just really feels like a good group of friends coming together while also gaining value building momentum and then if we look at x from a marketing
side you're being seen and you're building your authority that way as well so all these things
really really do add up so that's really just my way of relaxing but also engaging with people and
another thing i tell uh to a lot of my clients
or people within spaces as well is,
you know, the reply guy engagement part
is that people are doing it wrong
in the sense that people will set aside
eight to 10 hours every single day.
There are people doing this
who will just go on a massive engagement rampage,
but what that ends up happening
is people quickly
burn out doing that like that's not something that is super sustainable however replying is
still a really important thing to do so how do i do this when i have a little bit of downtime
just in between the day i'll go out and engage with people so for example if you're brushing
your teeth right it takes about two minutes to brush your teeth. You're able to, you know, throw out four thoughtful replies when you're brushing your
teeth or when you're microwaving or when you're microwaving your food or when you're cooking,
or if you just genuinely have a little bit of downtime, half an hour, just do a little bit
of engaging. And you don't really think about it. Like we have 24 hours in a day and that tends to
really, really add up. I'm doing about 200 replies every single day, and yet I'm still getting my work done.
I'm writing e-books.
I'm working with clients.
I'm doing client fulfillment.
I'm on one-on-one calls.
So with all these things still combined, which is work, I'm still able to really get this
done as well.
And even replying is really, really fun as well.
It's both kind of an entertainment thing for me as well. It does,
you know, naturally spike my dopamine. But at the same time, it's something that is
really, you know, building my value and the momentum and is building rapport with people
as well. So I don't necessarily just, you know, set aside time for me to relax. I just combine it
with something that I'm already doing. And what An what ani was saying it's really just combining x as a whole so that that's the way i really do relax i feel like you
have to be um in a very different mind space to really do that because i could understand from an
empathetic standpoint that it can be exhausting to be on x 24 7 but if you're just really enjoying it
you're a people person you you're a community builder,
you love being here, then I think to myself,
why not just combine the both of the relaxation sense,
but also gaining some sort of value from it.
And the worst thing that's gonna happen
at the end of the day is I'm gonna make a few friends.
And when you make a few friends on social media,
we know how far that's gonna get people.
So that's a really powerful tool right there.
So I'm gonna land my plane there.
And back to you, Prez.
Really, really appreciate you for having this space here.
And shout out to Ani.
I'm only here because of her.
But yeah, I love what you're doing here.
Kev, man, you're the space husband, right?
No, you know.
Yeah, I had to get you with that one, man. No, yeah, you know, yeah, I had to get you with that one, man.
No, yeah, you know, balance.
And I love how both of you guys said, you know, like, this is your home and being able to balance the work piece with the relaxation piece.
And I think that's tying it back to the word engagement, too, like if you're immersed in that activity that, you know, maybe is lucrative for you in a financial perspective, whatever it is, but you also have actual interest in it, then, yeah, I think you can exhibit both aspects of engaging and disengaging and disengagement being part of relaxing. So yeah, I appreciate that, man. And time management too. I definitely want
to highlight that. I think I personally don't think about it as often as I should. And kind
of like you were saying, like, even with how you might have busy schedules, whether it's school,
work, whatever it is, but if you consider the amount of free time that we might just be
either goofing off or, you know, might be doing things that we could simultaneously also
incorporate other things, right? Such as engaging, like you were saying, like replying.
Yeah, I think it can go a long way and it can alleviate one being burnt out if they're just
putting eight hours and 10 hours into something whereby they don't have that balance exhibited
for themselves. So thank you, Kevin. I really do appreciate you being here and supporting
and shout out to the Startup Circle, man man you guys do great things for the people so much love and respect to you bro I'm gonna pass
it over to Reg Reg what's good OG hey brother yeah as an elder and listening to the young
like Kevin Arnie this is why I say I don't worry about the future. I don't have to. Things come in rhythm, fashion, by natural order.
Meaning I'm 55, right? 54, about to be 55 in October.
Now, first thing I said, OK, I had a friend. I say that I say you first thing you wake up, you equate your life to time.
You on the clock. What time is it? Is it daytime, nighttime? How long did I sleep? People be like, oh, I don't believe in time. Well, why on the clock what time it is it daytime nighttime how long did I sleep people
be like oh I don't believe in time well why you ask yourself with time if you're on the clock to
get to work you're gonna go say I don't believe in time and I'll be when I'll be there no you're
fired fuck out excuse my language get out of here so saying that to say we deal with the clock we
deal with a spiritual clock in our bodies a mental clock a hunger clock because the belly says I'm
hungry go eat I need to pee go pee
I need to wash I stink so your body smells it's clock it's like smelly reg stay with me just like
now dealing with the equating people in their natural rhythm wise rhythm is she feels she
waits she sits she's wise leave me alone Prez is hosting. So he had to see, set up, let people know.
Ani says she come from spaces where it's helping. This is her job. No stress.
Kev just said I'm here because of Ani. And also so I meet people at where they are.
First and foremost, pause. I said to myself the other day, hey, Reg, you've been putting in a lot of work.
Rachel know me. Me and that girl used to fight. I love her. That's my sis.
That's why I'm glad to see her. Like, yeah, Rachel knows what's up, man.
We didn't have we didn't saw because we was also climbing the ladder to basically compartmentalize of how far we want to go.
Pause. Stay right there. Meaning meaning 2021.
I had a friend of mine. She was pregnant.
This is when I first started spaces. You know where I'm going. So we talk in time.
Something that was in her belly is walking. Hey, Uncle Reggie. I said, wait a minute, little fella.
You was in the belly when I started space. Look at you. Look at you. Look at you.
Belly when I started space. Look at you. Look at you. Look at you.
So we're talking about a seed that was in the belly when I first started space.
Now this little seed is walking. It's four years within its mix, about to be five.
They already have their phone. They already swiping. They already in techno knowledge.
So I understand. Hi, Uncle Reggie.
Hey, hey, face. You know how to FaceTime? Yeah, mommy. So, okay. Now, pause. So saying that to
say, I'm looking at a seed that was planted in 2021 right after COVID. So now I'm seeing the
growth and development of Prez, Rachel, myself. So as an elder, I don't worry about the future.
Ani's here. Ani nem got this. Kev got it.
So the people that come in here, Jackie herself, that I listen to and sometimes I pop in and check on things,
I just see that the future is bright.
It's bright. And we also have to know that we have clocks in our body.
And we also have to know that we have clocks in our body.
I just broke down the hunger clock, the working man clock, the working woman clock, the minister clock, the cycle clock.
So we have these wheels. We're in the Tropic of Cancer.
June 6th. The six is equation. It's a serpentine. It's a helix form.
This is why we're in the middle of the latitude of cancer, the tropic.
Now we know what tropical means. Tropic can be many things, many colors, many prisms.
That's why I charged my crystals yesterday and I sent the video in our group chat.
So you guys check that out wise. So these things was of the strawberry moon.
And I got a lot of strawberries at the at the at the place that we pass our food.
Got a lot of strawberries at the place that we pass our food.
So I'm just looking at the future being bright, taking a step, pausing.
Spaces can't get out of hand.
So this is where we got prominent people like yourself to put a therapeutic spiritual room together amongst me going through all this stuff happening in L.A.
Right in the mix.
And Reggie still find peace.
So you never you got to find peace. We all say peace, right in the mix, and Reggie still find peace. So you never, you got to find
peace. We all say peace, right? But find it. It's okay. Wars happen. War. Good God,
what is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again. So we had this stuff happening all
watch the watchtower. I know I'm a little older than y'all guys, but I saw this
with the Vietnam thing of the so-called flower movement and hippie movement. But at that time,
you had spiritual people who were segueing people to say, hey, no more war, let's make love.
So out of this love triangle came the beautiful music, Janis Joplin, so forth and so on. And I
land with this because
i got to get to work i love you guys keep it going press what we saw in the music industry
of the beetle counterculture we're seeing now with these young kids so i tell people now
revolutions not necessarily has to mean violence what's going to come up out of this is flower
children spiritual journeys i have people that mean as well and last but least soccer brother you absolutely right because
i'm a sportsman and i played competitive sports all my life and i understand locking in and i'll
never forget we used to go to a high school they used to get on us man i remember it was made i
don't i don't want to paraphrase.
I'm paraphrasing, but I remember being at the free throw, and I was like,
Coach was like, hey, man, I need you to make these.
Can you get them?
I said, I got them, Coach.
But I was nervous because I knew I bummed at the free throw line.
I can go to the hole, but I remember being at that line, locking in.
I blocked out everything.
I just said, make it, man.
I said, no, I told the team. I said, I make it, man. I said, no, I told the team
I said, I'll make them.
I'll make them. And I made the free throws, right?
We ended up going to overtime and losing,
but I remember I got us two overtime.
It was something, they came down, missed the shot,
we went to OT. Saying that to say
is, you can lock in.
And soccer is a thing that if you don't put
effort in, you can just go get
a sweat, but you're not going to get that.
I know what that is.
Press kicking that soccer ball up and down, grabbing that ball, moving it with your left leg, right leg, switching it.
Brother, it takes endurance and perseverance to lock in.
So I just want to land with that, man.
Love you guys. Keep it going, man.
I got to get back to work.
All right.
Yo, Reg, can I ask you a quick question?
Oh, did he leave?
Oh, you already dipped.
I appreciate it, man, when Reg comes through and drops his wisdom.
Yeah.
Anyone on the panel has any thoughts on what he just shared?
He dropped some wisdom and dipped, didn't he?
I just wanted to say, hey, I came in here because, you know, I follow you, Prez, and I've subscribed to Ani, and I've followed Wise Muse.
And I was interested in the topic, the natural rhythm of action and reflection. I had my fourth space Tuesday and it went well. spoke I see she's in here I mean love her so it's just interesting how since I
did that just reflecting on that and seeing the actions of people now that I
am have hosted and they have seen that I have the ability to
host and hold space and
It's just it's it's just I'm in this reflecting zone right now and
So I'm just kind of taking it all in but I really wanted to come up and say hey and support the space and
I'm just of be here.
But thanks for the mic.
No, yeah.
Thank you for being here.
What are some initial thoughts that have been coming to your mind in relation to the reflective process?
And then we'll go to Ani.
Well, just where do I want to go from here and not because, you know,'ve noticed some they roll in I don't want to say packs
but they do group circles um whatever you want to call it and then um whether or not I want to stay kind of more of a lone wolf and make sure I keep my creative identity my own.
And so I think because now people are like, do you want to do things with me, you know, in the X spaces kind of group thing and you know I don't
really know if I want to be affiliated with a group just yet and so it's one of
those things that's where kind of hair I'm at on the whole and I don't I don't
want it like I know I'm here to network and I'm here to do all those things but it's also you know what is too much sharing like you know where to draw the lines and setting boundaries you know and then me learning what my boundaries even are because it's one of those things things are constantly changing so and
just but trying to be loyal to the people that I've you know loyal to myself
and loyal to the friendships that I feel that I've made or that I'm trying to
make and I'm trying to grow so I'm really just trying to reflect on what type of host because I guess
I mean it'll be the next one I do will be my fifth and it's like just what do I really want to
be um because I'm creating I guess a reputation or you know a. And I'm kind of at that reflecting on who, what am I other than just me.
You know, really, ultimately, I'm just me.
But it's really what I want Jackie Sue on X, I guess, to be going forward as the host of my own thing.
And not being sucked in into anything.
I mean, just, I don't know, keeping my own mind amidst the chaos that can be on X, I guess.
That's kind of where I'm reflecting on.
That's where I'm at right now.
Feedback and feedback is welcome.
Critique is welcome.
Advice is welcome. Any of feedback is welcome. Critique is welcome. Advice is welcome.
Any of that is welcome.
And I appreciate it because the people that have been around longer, you know, some things I will always take.
Advice is to not maybe stumble in something, but I realize I do have to use my own mind and will,
but I just wanted to land there. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Jackie. I completely,
100% resonate with your share from start to finish. It can be tough. It can be tough,
especially when there's attachments, right, involved or perceived attachments involved as well. And I think,
yeah, honoring your independent creative identity as a host, I think, yeah, that's,
that's, you know, super important. And also recognizing the people who want to socially
support you. And I know there's some people in this room, like you name drop Rachel,
there's people that, you know, that definitely will be on board with what you do. Feel free to drop that space in the nest, you know, so people can catch the playback. I definitely want to catch the
playback. And from me to you, I definitely want to come through and support you however I can come
through and support too, you know. So shout out to you and I appreciate you being here in this space.
In terms of advice, I definitely want to go to Ani because I'm pretty sure she might have some things to say. And then, yeah. Go ahead, Ani. Yeah. It was awesome hearing from you, Jackie
Sue. So it kind of like gave me an idea. There is a lot of things that we could do where
we can help you kind of like find your voice as a host. You know, we do subscriber only spaces
where we could probably bring you in
as like a third co-host,
allow you to, you know,
just get used to some of the UI
and how to handle things.
I literally was just DMing Kevin.
That's like, the idea just came to me.
I was like, damn, we should do this with people
because like, you know,
we are kind of like seasoned spaces hosts
and we've been doing these every single day.
And that's another form of value that we can bring to people, you know, we are kind of like seasoned spaces hosts and we've been doing these every single day. And that's some, that's another form of value that we can bring to people, you know?
So I would 100% like have to love to have you as like our third co-host and just show
you around, like, you know, allow you to kind of like get into that role of co-hosting because
that's what lets you go to go to that next step of hosting your own spaces.
And then as for feedback, I would love to tell you,
like you articulate your words very, very well.
You speak very concisely.
You haven't lost your train of thoughts.
And, you know, like I really, really like hearing from you.
I really, really, you know, think that people will love
when you do host your own spaces or even co-host
because you are very calm. And I think you
are able to, um, commend the, uh, commend the room in a way that most people don't really know how
to do. So that would be my feedback. Like you're great. And I think some of the things that you're
thinking about how to find your, how to find your flow is going to come with practice. So I would
definitely say like host more spaces or at least speak, or at least like, you know, try to be co-hosts with people more and
more. That way you'll get, like, you'll find your own voice very, very fast and you're doing really
well. Thank you. You're right. Because little things like hosting my own space, it's so funny
because I don't even know how to, like, if someone asked me to post something
in the nest, I don't even know how to do little, little things like that.
And it's one of those ridiculous things that, yes, the idea of having, I mean, any space
host, having those regular, um, reaching out to the new people and helping them along.
Because a lot of, you know, they don't do that.
And I think that's always something that is needed on this app.
So thank you.
Yeah, definitely.
No problem.
Definitely welcome in any of my subscriber only spaces and just let me
know that you'll be there and i'll make make sure that we keep that third co-host seat open for you
so we can um do that but kevin um if you want to jump into the conversation go ahead
no i was just saying that's awesome because subscriber spaces are they're definitely
beginner friendly because it tends to just be a small group of people we're all there to learn
and uh really just be able to help one another out as well.
So, Ani, that's a very interesting pitch in the matter as well.
Yeah, and I think that's something that a lot of people can get a lot of value from us as well.
That's awesome.
And you'll be there for our subscriber-only space later, Ani, right?
Yeah.
Why wouldn't I be?
Okay, perfect.
I thought you were interviewing me.
Imagine I didn't show up.
No, because I thought you said you were going to have a space with Wolf at four.
I have multiple spaces every day.
So you're just going to dual wield that one as well.
Okay, I'm just making sure.
Yeah, no, the other one I really don't have to speak on,
so I'll definitely pay way more attention to the subscriber-only space.
So, like I said, yep.
Okay, perfect.
Four o'clock EST.
Shameless pitch.
Yeah, drop that.
Actually, you should drop that in the purple pill
so people can go say it reminders.
But, yeah, subscribe to Kevin
because we've been collaborating a lot on, you know,
not just spaces like we've been doing.
I dropped an e-book, actually, which I just pinned up top,
kind of about how to get to that point
of hosting your own spaces.
And then there's a bunch of tips in there from Kevin.
And then there's a link to Kevin's like e-book collection
where you can kind of go and see what he's been dropping.
There's a lot of alpha
that he's been dropping through e-books.
So definitely subscribe to him.
And at the very least, if you don't want to subscribe,
go ahead and download those e-books because they're absolutely valuable content.
And they're free.
So you guys can go check them out.
Thank you, Ani and Kevin.
Appreciate that.
And thank you for reflecting back to Jackie.
Jackie, one last thing I'll add as well is, and then we'll go to Wise, and then I see my posture.
Is that your name? Yes, my posture.
Rachel is on stage. Jackie, you know, I guess being like a baby as a space host, right? We can
all keep on learning the technical aspects of things, but I just want to highlight, you know,
you as a person. And I've seen your co-host, I think, in. Heat's space, and I felt like you were killing it. So it's one thing
to honor, you know, maybe the fear of the unknown and trying to juggle, you know, your individuality
and how that comes across as a host. But I just want to highlight, at least from what I've seen
on my end as a speaker or as a co-host, like, I feel like you're killing it. So yeah, just keep
on being you. And I know there's people in this room that are definitely going to support you with that process as well. So thank you for being here.
Wise, what's good? I want to tell Jackie I love her and I'm so proud of her because
I've known her for a while on this app and I watched her grow and she's somebody that I feel like I care about a lot and this is what I
would tell her or anyone else about what I've learned about being on Twitter for the year and
a half I have been on here now. So these are all the notes I just wrote down just now. Okay, so
the thing that I feel like resonates with me the most right now is I want to talk about is the fact that it's a full moon.
It's about release.
I just went through a big comb through of people that I was following that I really didn't resonate with anymore.
Releasing followers that you don't want or need on your page anymore is very important.
It's important to go through and comb through and, you know, get some of the accounts that you don't really, you know,
interact with or you haven't really talked to them or, you know, like, stop blocking people and then
like taking them off your follower account. That's a normal thing to do. That's a reasonable, you
know, thing to do. Also, the fact that your followers and people that you're following are
not the same audience sometimes. Just because someone follows you that you're following are not the same audience sometimes
just because someone follows you or you're following them doesn't necessarily mean that
you guys are friends or that you talk or you know that you're involved with each other's content
so just be mindful of that too with like the releasing followers that just you know or
communities even to like communities is a really good place
to network without having to follow each other back, without having to, you know, like have a
check mark and manage the community yourself or things like that too. The thing I was going to
say after the communities is even like the DM chat groups, I get added to a lot of group chats now, and I wasn't
used to that at first. The first group chat I was ever in was a really nice, respectful one,
but, you know, like, they teach you a lot of things in these group chats, the way that people
act with each other, the way that they treat each other, the way that when someone adds you to a
group chat and you don't know a whole bunch of people in there sometimes. So every community, every DM chat group, those are very big on this side.
Once you start getting more attention and more people around you,
you might randomly get added to them or be asked or peer pressured to join them.
That definitely happens.
I was also going to talk about taking breaks and ghosting social media.
You can take whole three-month, six-month breaks from social media, ghost everyone, and come back and have a totally different following account.
Or, like I said, releasing those followers and just feel like you haven't talked to them in a long time.
They didn't really check on you.
I don't know why my voice just seized up.
I'm like, oh my goodness.
I think that means something for somebody.
You know, when people don't check up on you while you have been ghosting social media, it kind of makes it obvious that, you know, you might want to release some of those accounts.
And then what I also want to talk about, too, is like the fact that we exchange information on here.
Don't forget to shamelessly plug your other projects and other apps you're on, because people have told me many fucking times.
Because people have told me many fucking times, sorry for cursing, that they would come to another app or a platform just to talk to me, just to be around me, just to see what I'm doing, what I'm talking about.
Sorry for cursing.
So don't ever forget to put your buy me coffee, a link tree, and don't forget to use AI art for branding.
AI art for branding. I remember when I was talking to Prez about three months ago, I was literally
telling him and some other people in a space that I wanted to work on my branding. I wanted to work
on the way that I promote myself. I wanted to work on my content. And that's what I've been doing for
the past three months. And I've definitely blown up since the last like three months for sure.
I definitely just hit 1k followers. So like, don't forget to use AI. Don't forget to exchange information.
Don't forget that there are communities or chat rooms.
Don't forget to shamelessly plug and don't forget to release and comb through your followers and your following.
No, that's awesome. Go ahead, Jackie.
Yes. I just want to say, I mean, so many things that, yes, because everything that you were saying is happening.
But I'm not, see, I'm used to more being, like I can hang out in the groups, but I'm more like, you know, I think of things like on my own.
You know, I come up with my ideas kind of on my own.
So to be, although I can work with people, I love to work with people.
I want to do that.
I was the manager of the salon, so that's my experience and probably why I make it a point to be clear and things like that.
And why I can talk to a wide variety of people because, I mean, that's just what I had to do.
But some of these, I mean, some of it does feel like some of it can be social pressure.
And it's one of those things that I'm not really used to social pressure, honestly.
And that's kind of new.
So when you said that, it's like, I don't want to shut anybody off because at the same time, I'm trying to grow my account.
So it's one of those things that I do want to say I want to be a yes person.
But at the same time, I don't want to be one of those people that doesn't remember to set boundaries because I'm going to have to set boundaries.
And that's just one of those things that I'll have to remember, I guess, to be actively thinking about and purging followers.
I do. I do. I'm kind of picky about who I follow in the first place. I kind of learned that
the hard way. I guess we learn that through experience, but at the same time, usually I'll
wait until I resonate with someone, but then I might get a different vibe and I will unfollow.
I mean, I'll admit that because, I mean, I'm keeping it real. I mean, sometimes I'll hear them and I'll think that, yeah, but then I'll hear them and I'm like, no, that's like no way.
And I mean, that is something that I don't know if that's good or bad for my account, but that is something that, you know, I mean, I came here, I pay.
I don't get paid to be on this app.
So I do it for fun.
I do it to be social.
It's one of those things that I pay for premium because I like the premium features of, I like, I mean, I like the app.
I like the app.
so I can't knock it there and I like I don't mind paying through the web for
So I can't knock it there.
for it but I want I want the people that want to be successful to be
successful and I appreciate the spaces like this and the people like this that
are willing to help like Ani I mean like she gives great tips on basically everything
and um as far as growing and I know because Alex Finn not I mean I'm going to name drop because I
I'm not even sure if I follow him but I'm sure I do follow him because everybody on X kind of
follows him because he's such a big deal because he's such a success story um but Ani um is really familiar with him and so I look at Ani this could be I
don't know but I look like I get a lot of his wisdom by being friends with her and I also by
being like I look at it as a networking thing and a
creative circle. I really do see the community part of it. And that's one of the things I love
about X. And I just want to be smart. I don't want to make some of the really rookie mistakes that you make when you're getting first starting into it so that's just
where I'm at but I thank you for the feedback and you know still like I said anybody that wants to
offer that's more experienced than I am you know I am always open to it and appreciate it. I see a lot of faces in here.
Like I see Nick and Israel.
I mean, they're space hosts that, I mean, I look to and I love going to their spaces when I can.
Oh, were you done, Jackie?
No, I did.
Dropped my phone for a minute.
I had to get something to drink.
But, yeah, I just wanted to land there that I respect the way your host spaces.
And I just want to learn from you guys. So really, I'm just like an ear wanting to soak up information. And now I'm done. I just wanted to chime in and say, thanks for saying
that about Alex, because he's actually a mentor to me. I never used to know anything that I know about social media today
before I kind of discovered his content. And obviously while learning from him, you know,
being involved in his community, I became friends with him and we're like really close friends now.
And, you know, there's stuff that I'm doing with CreatorBuddy with him, like beta testing and stuff
like that. Some of these opportunities would never have came if I hadn't met Alex. So it really means a
lot to me that you said that you see a lot of his content in me because, you know, he's a mentor,
and I absolutely respect the heck out of him. I definitely do. I mean, that's one of the things
because of me being like new and kind of nervous and shy to speak. He's always been super supportive of small accounts. And I know
that he, if I had the courage, he would let me up, but I know that he's a big deal. So I don't
want to come up there and be stupid. You know what I mean? Have you seen you, Jackie? You would not
be stupid. Come on. You have to come on the space. Well, it's just, it's my, it's my thoughts.
on the space? Well, it's just, it's my, it's my thoughts. So, I mean, I've, I've worked my way
up to it and, but he's a, he's a big deal to me. And, um, I've watched you in his spaces and
I was like, I mean, you've been like a mentor to me. And so it's just kind of funny how it just
kind of works and it makes this little circle of, um,, to me, success or what I, the way I look at
it, but thank you. But yeah, I've noticed it and I'm glad because I was hoping like,
is this going to be perceived well, but it's, you know, the way I feel. So thank you.
Thank you, Jackie. Appreciate that. And you guys heard, man, feel free to give her feedback.
Jackie, if you don't mind, post that space at least in the comment section and then we'll put it up in the nest for you, okay? And yeah, to tap in with Rachel too because she's been on stage and I see Mela as well so why is you know the word
release where would that fall under EDR is it more disengaging for you or is it it's more the
reflection the full moon is a reflection because the moon the new moon is a portal it's so it's
like a hole in the sky it's resetting the full moon is a portal. It's like a hole in the sky. It's resetting. The full moon is fruition,
manifestation coming to completion.
It's reflection.
The full moon is known as the chaotic or the crazy
because it pulls on the water the most.
That's when people get into like car accidents.
Like that's when trouble arises.
That's when people get aggressive, emotional.
That's the reflection. That's the reflection.
That's the reflection, you know?
I hear you.
I feel you.
Yeah, yeah.
Reflection.
That caught me off guard completely.
Yeah.
No, I like that.
That makes a lot of sense.
Tim, what's good, bro?
Not much.
How's it going, Prez?
Lilla B, Nick,
Jackie, Israel,
Sienna. How you guys all done?
I'm barely awake. I just came up
to say hi, you know, because
you know, like,
you're my boy, so
I just wanted to come up and say hi real quick.
But, like, I'm barely awake.
How's your day going though?
I'm sure you got a question for me.
I'm doing well, man.
Well, I'm present.
You know what I mean?
This is my way of engaging, right?
So yeah, man.
How about you?
What's your natural rhythm of action and reflection?
Me, you know me i try to take my time but you know you push the wrong button you know you I try to look back at situations and see what I did wrong and, you know, improve
upon it. But yeah, like I came in late, so I'm not exactly sure where you're at on it.
You know, I just came in to say hi to you real quick, you know, you're my boy.
And I appreciate that.
Nah, man, you know, I said earlier on in the space, it's going to be free flow.
You know, I want and encourage that verse perspective.
So actually, I think your share makes a lot of sense.
I think upon reflection, we can always think about how we can improve so that when we choose to re-engage, you know, we're able to refine our methods a little bit more.
So, nah, that works, bro. That works.
So, thank you, bro. Thank you for coming up to say hi and supporting the space.
Rachel, I see you. Do you have anything you want to share at all?
I see you came up on stage.
Hello. You're talking to me, Rachel.
Yeah, I'm talking to you, Rachel.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is amazing.
One thing I want to mention is that each of the women I'm thinking about is Ani, Wisemune, and Jackie.
and Jackie, you all have a way and a manner about you that is so authentic and you all
speak in such a peaceful, calm manner that it's very inspiring to me.
it helps me because it's easier to it's easy to emulate when I feel your
your frequency of um peace it helps me to feel peaceful because honestly um
I don't think it's any secret that I'm like a silent girl in the room I just like to come and
listen in my mind I'm very active in my mind I'm totally a silent girl in the room. I just like to come and listen. In my mind, I'm very active. In my mind, I'm totally engaging with all of you.
And I do, you know, do the emojis and respond. But I, when I'm listening to somebody, I'm not
looking at my phone. I look away from my phone. And so I want to make it clear that if I'm here and I'm not completely responding in time,
I am engaging with you with my frequency in my mind. And I hope you understand that.
The other thing is that I wanted to mention what Jackie was talking about is, yes, I'm here.
I know why I came here.
I'm happy that I'm finally among people that I feel comfortable with and that appreciate what we all appreciate what each other are trying to do.
And that's so encouraging.
But I also relate to it.
It's like, yes, there's so much I want to share.
There's so much to say, but it's a moment at a time.
It's a moment at a time, and it's a flow.
And so this has all been very encouraging.
I did purchase the e-book from Ani, and I plan to review that, and I do plan to make an appointment with you.
And I'm interested in attending Jackie, your spaces, and learning.
I'm interested in learning how to co-host at first.
I'm still learning that.
Eventually, perhaps I'd host a space that I don't know.
I really don't know.
I might just want to be in collaboration and teamwork with people all the time because I just don't see it yet.
But I do see myself here with you all.
I do see myself growing with you all.
And I'm very excited for the future.
So thank you. I'll land it there.
Thank you for having me and thank you for letting me speak.
Yeah, thank you for being here. You know, what I took from your share was one,
finding, you know, picking your moment, right? You know, in terms of when to speak and when not to speak. And it sounds like
you're very intentional about that. And, you know, also like reframing the word, what engagement
looks like for us individually as well. You know, and I think showing your presence perhaps is also
a form of engagement. And I think that's what I got from your share. So thank you. And I'm sorry
if I did put you on the spot, but I saw you came up on stage so I
was like oh you know let me let me just see let me just see if she wants to speak so thank you
I do I do want to speak I really really do and I appreciate the encouragement because without it I
would not have I would not and it's not just today it's every time without the encouragement of you
all I would not have done it but I had to I knew I had to I knew that it was part of the encouragement of you all, I would not have done it, but I had to,
I knew I had to, I knew that it was part of the part of my, my journey. And I'm so grateful. I
don't know how, if you can feel my heart right now, but I'm so open and grateful to all of you.
So thank you very much. I'm so glad to speak when you asked me. Thank you.
No, thank you. And you know, that just sparked a thought, you know, I think we're exploring this topic from the internal side of things, what's within our
locus of control, but the external, right? Like how people can be motivators in order to push us
to either engage or re-engage. So the act of me, you know, asking you, hey, you want to chime in,
you know, that prompted you and that gave you that little push for you to want to engage in a different way
because you already said
you were engaging in your own way
by being silent and, you know,
having your presence.
So, yeah, I think the external
or the external factors
can also be a huge part of this topic as well.
Jackie, I see you got your hand up
and then I see Colby and Krypton on stage.
And yeah, we'll go in that order.
Actually, before you go to,
I just want to shout out to everybody that's here. I see Rose. I see Mike. Mike and Arnie
hosted a wonderful space yesterday on Lucid Dreaming. So y'all catch the playback on that.
I see Richard. I see Nick. I call him the book, man, man, man of wisdom. Tim is still here.
Sienna is still here. Ashley, Nola, Lola, Avni, D, Potency, Eduardo. I think you were
here early in the space. Cold Breeze. LMS. I like that. AI, Ghost, and Innocent. Thank you guys for
being here and supporting the space. Again, I just want to reiterate as listeners, this is your space
too. It's an interactive space. So feel free to comment down on the Purple Pill if you got any
thoughts, anything that you've heard, or just your own personal initial thoughts to the topic, okay?
So with that being said, we'll go to Jackie. And then, yeah, if there's anybody on stage that
wants to chime in, feel free to do so. And I see Mike on stage too.
I just wanted to comment back to Rachel because I am the same way, and that is exactly like I
needed to be pulled out of my shell or asked or it's like
Ani has actually done that because she has given me a mic or you know sent a mic request to me
before and because I did want to speak I was just scared and so to have someone give you that
opportunity or like give you the offer of, hey, do you want to
speak?
You know, this is like a save, you know, I'm going to, you know, it's just a nice flow
and you're going to be, I mean, it's just, it's just one of those things.
Like it is a very nice, soothing energy.
I mean, it is.
And that action creates another action. So I really did. I do.
And anytime if she wanted to DM me and like, we could learn together, I'd be so willing to
co-host and learn together, even at the very basic part. I mean, I'm so up for that.
So I just wanted to say that back.
Man, look at what Ani, Kevin, and Wise have done for this space.
You know, as we're engaging, we're networking too.
So it's just, it's nice to see people just, you know, network and feel comfortable and feel,
I don't want to use the word safe necessarily, but it sounds like that, you know, people do feel safe. And I'm glad that, you know, you guys are here to contribute to the
frequency of this space. So thank you guys so much. Let me tap in with Mike. I hated using that word
to safe. Did you hear the hesitation when I said it? I felt it. I felt it. Yeah. And you know,
even safety is going to be relative to that individual too. So yeah, but thank you, Jackie.
Appreciate that. Mike, what's up, man? How are you doing, Mike?
Peace, everybody. I just had to jump in and overcoming my fear has come about kind of in an organic way.
I'm old enough, I'm in my 60s, that when I reflect back, I've made so many mistakes and I've screwed up so many things,
screwed up so many things. And that's always led to my best learning. The breakthroughs that I've
and that's always led to my best learning.
had have come not from my successes, but from the mistakes. And so anybody that's kind of on the
edge that's letting their ego or their fear of looking foolish hold them back, embrace it,
jump in. I'm now in a better mindset because I embrace the mistakes. I'm
jumping in and I'm trying to make as many mistakes as fast as I can because that's forcing me to grow
every day. So peace to the Ski Bum Nation. I love you all. What a beautiful space, Prez.
Thank you, man. I appreciate that. And, you know, I talked about sports early on,
and I know you're into winter sports. Has that contributed at all to your learning and, you know,
your reflective process as well? Yeah, absolutely. And one of the things that I love about the winter
sports, particularly my skiing, is that it's not, I played football, I played all the typical sort of
male ego sports, but skiing is something where you're competing with yourself. And in fact,
all the years that I taught, I tried to convince my students that the best skier on the mountain
is the one with the biggest grin on their face. So yeah, I make mistakes. I had a
season ending crash last February that made me stop and reflect on why I'm doing what I'm doing
at my age. I've had seven orthopedic surgeries. I always joke that as long as they keep putting
me back together, man, I'm strapping on the boards and heading back out there. And it's for
those special moments when you push yourself just a little bit farther than you think you can go
that, well, that's what, quite frankly, that's what makes me feel alive. And it's the same thing
with Ani was the one who was instrumental in giving me the nudge to go ahead and host my own first space and to get involved in the community.
And it has opened up a whole new world for me.
I enjoy X and the banter and all of that and creating content.
But I've just fallen in love with the spaces because of the deep connection that people
are able to make.
And also, quite frankly, a lot of the, I don't know what it is,
the genuine openness and the generosity of everybody that's sharing and participating.
It's very cool. And I haven't, not that I'm a social media expert or butterfly by any stretch,
but after years of dabbling, this is really my first experience of embracing it and getting
involved.
And it's been here on this platform and in these rooms.
I'll land it there.
Thank you, Mike.
I appreciate that.
And I appreciate you being here.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
I think the words perseverance and resiliency were used early on in this space.
And yeah, you know, when you go through injuries or when you go through
adverse experience, especially through sports, it definitely can put you in that reflective
process. And man, I just loved how you tied it all together, man, coupled with, you know,
just reflecting in general outside of that too. So thank you for being here. You know, it was
dope being alongside you and Ani in that dream space. I learned quite a bit from everybody and
including you and some of the stuff that you were reflecting back to people.
So, man, just grateful that we can connect, man, you know, and hopefully we'll hear more from you as well.
So thank you for being here.
I want to tap in with Mela because Mela came up and then she went down.
And then, you know, based on what Jackie and Rachel was saying, I was like, you know what, man? Shoot, I'm going to be active and send the mic back to her.
So I don't know if she just came back up because of her, like, out of her own will or if it
was because I sent her the mic.
But hey, either way, she's here.
So yeah, I just want to say hi to her and see what her thoughts are.
And then I see some other people on stage, man.
Feel free to keep your hands up if you want to speak so we can get to y'all as well.
What's good, Mella?
Mella B, welcome. Hey welcome hey hey how's everybody doing great now that you're here are you gonna sing for us today oh boy um yeah I could sing something for sure I haven't been uh I haven't even picked
up my guitar today I've been busy but I would love to um I reposted the space this is me
encouraging everybody to repost the space get more more people in here. Prez is an incredible host. Ani,
Wise Muse, you guys are awesome. I appreciate the space and the conversation here has been
incredible. I've been kind of like just sitting back and taking in everybody's perspective.
I like the topic today, the natural rhythm of action and reflection. It's very cool. And it's funny, like it's kind of like a synchronicity with a conversation I was having with Dakota before I even entered the space. So it's weird. It's very weird. We were literally having this conversation about kind of aligns with it about like, just kind of removing the fear of failure can be difficult for
some people. And it was difficult for me for a long time. But failure is actually such a
powerful learning curve, right? Like you learn from your failures. It sounds super cliche,
because it is super cliche. It is something that we hear time and time again, especially from our
elders. Come on, you got to fail, you got to fail to learn. You got to fail to learn. But it's so, so true. And
the reflection that comes from failure is so, it can be powerful if you let it be powerful.
Sometimes it's not powerful if you don't allow it to be. But yeah, I've had my fair share of failures. I've had stuff not work out. I've
gotten frustrated. I've had to reflect and go back to the drawing board. And usually,
at least personal experience has taught me that sometimes the failures come from either lack of preparation or lack of alignment.
And by alignment, I mean like it was something I wasn't supposed to succeed with.
In my eyes, it's like there's things that are yours and there's things that are not.
And the things that are yours will find you and you'll find them eventually
and maybe it'll take 50 60 70 failures until you find them but eventually you'll you'll get there
and it kind of like having that perspective this was the conversation Dakota and I were having
having that perspective has taught me to be less afraid of failure because hypothetically if I'm 80, if I'm 80
tries away from my, my success and I'm going to fail 80 times, then damn, I want to get those 80
times out of the way. Right? Like I just want to try and try and try and fail and fail and fail and
get that stuff out of the way. So that way I can, I can be in my, um, in my, I don't want to say final form, but like where I'm supposed to be. Right.
So, yeah. And, and that does require some reflection. I think that would be like the
most crucial piece of the puzzle when it comes to failure and trying things out is like having the self-awareness to be able to sit back and look at the situation
from a bird's eye view and like almost remove your emotions, remove yourself, remove yourself
from the situation and just look at the situation itself for what it is. And that to me has made things less scary it's less serious so hypothetically
like like tonight I'm going to do this competition um and it's like a songwriters competition there's
16 contestants um and of course I go in with like like, the mentality of, like, I got this, like, I put that mentality
on, for sure, like, that's something that I'm putting on, I got this, I'm good, I'm gonna win,
but if I don't win, I'm not gonna be, like, upset about it, because I'll be able to learn from that
experience, I'll be able to sit back and reflect and be like, okay, what could I have done better,
should I have picked a different song, why didn't this song perform the way that I wanted to? Was
I not in the right mindset? Was it, you know, the room? Was it the judge? Was it the type of music
just didn't suit the environment? And I've been able to take away that same, like that ability
to reflect on my performances has made me a better performer. So every single time I go up on stage,
I feel better. I feel more prepared. I feel more confident. And then eventually I'm just like,
kind of at this point of like, nothing can stop me. Nothing can get in my way because
things have tried before to get in my way and they didn't stop me. So yeah, I guess that's kind of what I wanted to offer here. It's like
the reflection is a very big piece of the puzzle, in my opinion, because sometimes you do need to
pivot and being able to be adaptable and to pivot and to kind of like reflect and see where
you went wrong, because you're allowed to be wrong.
You're allowed to make mistakes. But I think the most important thing is being able to learn from
those mistakes and be realistic with yourself. Sometimes it's tough love, right? Sometimes you
have to give yourself some tough love. And I've definitely done that with myself. There's been
times I remember playing a gig in Toronto at one of the most legendary stages, Horseshoe Tavern, and I was so excited for this gig, but I was also so nervous.
Um, it was like one of, oh, did I just, oh, okay. Um, you guys can still hear me, right?
Okay, cool. Yeah, so I was really excited for this gig.
excited for this gig and I got off stage and in my head because I was nervous because I went into
it with this negative mentality like this isn't going to be good this is going to suck like I
definitely went into it with this negative mentality um and in my head it didn't go well
because I got off stage and I was like, oh my God, like,
how could anybody sit there and watch that? That was terrible. Like I, I get down on myself for
sure. Sometimes, um, at least I, I used to more often than now, but then I walked out into the
crowd after performing and I had all these random people come up to me and like, I'd never met them
before. They had no, they didn't need to come up to me, but they had all these random people come up to me and like, I'd never met them before. They had no, they didn't
need to come up to me, but they had all these random people come up to me all excited. Like,
oh my God, that was incredible. The music is incredible. You did so well, like giving me
compliments, giving me flowers. And I was like, whoa, like my mentality is the thing holding me
back from really enjoying this experience here. Like, you, sometimes you
have to get out of your own way. And so, like, yes, there are days where I go perform and I'm like,
I have performed this song 50 times in the past two weeks. Does it excite me the same way as it
did the first time I performed it? Maybe not. Some days it does. Some days it doesn't. Some days I'm like,
man, this song sucks. Like, even though I wrote it, and I know I love the song deep down, I love it,
but there are going to be times where you don't feel 100% confident, or you don't feel
yourself, or your art, or whatever you created, and you don't feel it. But much like I say in, if you know my
song, The Optimist, I say in the second verse, sometimes, or how does the lyric go? I think
there's power in letting our demons in. Let them sit a bit, like treat them as good friends in need,
let them sit a bit. That's what I say in my song. and that's like what I'm trying to say here is like
you're allowed to feel those negative feelings but for me personally if you let them sit for too long
like that's when things can kind of start to go bad so like yes let those feelings in let yourself
feel that shit it's important to feel that stuff because that's what's going to
make you a better performer or a better actor or a better writer or whatever it is that you do
whatever it is you do to create you can let those negative feelings in because guess what you might
go write something you might create something out of that feeling but then once once it feels like
it's been sitting for too long and you'll know you'll be like okay i've been on the couch for like three days like i gotta do something about this once that feeling has felt like it's
it's sat with you for too long and it's kind of like taking over and um kind of like
just like persuading you out of your truth that's when there's a problem. That's when that negative thinking
becomes a problem. Toxic positivity is a thing. Like, you can't always be 100% positive because
that's just not reality. It's just not reality. If anybody tells you they're 100% positive 100%
of the time, I can tell you right now they're lying to you. So even if they don't let that
shit out, like, it's happening. It's in the back of their head. So yeah, I's even if they don't let that shit out, like it's happening, it's in
the back of their head. So yeah, I guess this is my long winded way of saying that it's sometimes
you you can let those things in, but you got to let yourself you got to get out of your own way
sometimes. And I think that comes with like, I don't know, the term discipline kind of pops into my head.
Learning to be disciplined is what has taught me to keep going and to reflect and to practice some tough love with myself every now and then.
So I'll land my plane there.
Thank you, Mela. Such a powerful share. You know, I want to touch on a few points here,
and I want to ask you a question as well. I might tie some of this to what Jackie was saying in
relation to feedback, because it just sparked a thought there. So yeah, lack of preparation and
misalignment, right? It sounds like that can be some of the determining factors that leads us to failure, right?
And then how do we deal with it?
If we're less afraid of it, then maybe perhaps we can be able to exert ourselves in a way
whereby we can still be active while honoring those feelings.
So kind of like you were saying, it's important to acknowledge the feelings that we feel. The, what was the lyric you said? Power in letting in the
demons in a little bit, but don't sit in it in a way whereby now it forces you not to be active,
right? And it made me think about, like, the fixed mindset versus growth mindset, right? And
Jackie asking for feedback and being open to feedback or critiques,
that's a form of growth mindset, right? And I think it's not only just the feedback that we
receive from others, but what are we telling ourselves to? And everything is a balance,
right? You know, we also have to be gentle with ourselves, kind of like you said, toxic positivity
can be, you know, not a good thing. But I also think there can be dangers with
reflecting on ourselves in a way whereby we're not gentle with ourselves as well. So trying to
keep a sense of realism while knowing that there might be assumptions and biases in relation to
how we view ourselves can be tricky. But I think as long as we try to exhibit that as much as we
can, then, you know, perhaps we're able to bridge the gap.
So with that being said, Melody, I do wonder, though, flipping the failure aspect of things, how about with success?
Do you choose to reflect on that as well?
It's harder. I would say it's harder to reflect on success than it is with failure.
I would say it's harder to reflect on success than it is with failure.
I think it's a very human thing to feel negative feelings more deeply
than we feel positive feelings.
I learned that in psychology.
I don't know how true that is for everybody.
They say in, well, our initial automatic thoughts are negative and it's usually around i
don't know don't quote me on the percentage but it's 80 to 85 percent of our automatic thoughts
are negative so obviously if you're not aware to that that can definitely yeah well and it's
disruption i it makes sense i read the book sapiens and like, uh, it kind of makes sense from a survival, like
ingrained in our DNA is, you know, the will to survive. Right. So we always have to be on the
lookout for, um, risk and potential, you know, dangerous situations. So for us to be in this
protective mindset, I would, I mean, that's, that's a positive way of seeing it. It's a protective
mindset, right? So in that protective mindset, we're always thinking about how we can maintain
or how we can protect what's ours. So our livelihood, our shelter, our food, we're always
in this mindset of how we can protect that. So I think that, like, my answer
to that is, yes, I try to reflect on success. But then the question of like, well, what is success?
That kind of pops into my mind. Because it's same thing with what is failure because if you think about it from a philosophical perspective
if oh sorry my laundry machine is buzzing and that's really annoying I'm so sorry
uh that's very long um but yeah like if you think of failure as like a learning experience then
is it really failing you know like that's kind of like a philosophical way of seeing it. So I think it's
just important to constantly be reflecting, um, and to be almost like,
hmm, how can I put this? Instead of seeing it as failure or success, it's literally just being analytical and being reflective in a general sense.
You know, does that make sense?
Yeah, makes sense.
And, you know, I do agree with that.
I think ongoing reflection and being intentional about that is definitely, definitely
a thing that I try and practice. I'm not perfect at it myself, you know, but I always try and catch
myself with it. And it's important, man. It really is important. You know, you learn more about
yourself that way. And you also learn about yourself in relation to others. And when I think
about music, you know, it's very, very easy to, especially when you're on the brink of something,
to give up, you know, and I liked what you had said with the example of like, I think, what was
it? You said, like, you know, you might try something 80 times, or you might be 80 tries away
from whatever that, you know, success point looks like for you. Maybe what if you give up on that
79th try, you know, and you're just that close. So I think, yeah, you know, success point looks like for you. Maybe what if you give up on that 79th try,
you know, and you're just that close. So I think, yeah, you know, being active,
being intentional about being active, sitting with your feelings, but then having that ongoing
reflective process is always going to be crucial to whatever is one's individual pathway is in
life. So now I appreciate that, Mela. I really do. Okay. So I see Interstellar got his
hand up. Oh, is it she? My bad. He or she. And then we'll go to Crypto is on stage as well. And
then Colby, I see your request. We'll bring you back up. So Interstellar, how's it going? How
are you doing today? Hey, yeah, no, it's definitely a he. I was going to say, in terms of failure, yeah, like giving up, that really truly is the only failure in life is when people do give up on their dreams and their aspirations.
And more importantly, never trying in the first place.
people's fear of failure prevents them from doing a lot of meaningful and fulfilling activities or, you know, plans that they've kind of had, you know.
And, you know, they say the best way to kind of get over that is just to dive, you know, dive on in and, you know, go from there and have it be a learning process, which life in itself is just one big grand lesson that we're all going through.
So, you know, you can't let your fear of, you know,
things not going the way that you would hope, you know, hold you back,
because it's like you're just going to miss out on so much.
So I think, you know, for the most parts you know and then too like people were
saying like reframing your um interpretation of the outcome of what you've received you know to
kind of look at that maybe it wasn't a complete failure and if you try again you might get to
where you want it to be or even better you never
know so um but that is like the logical you know brain there at work trying to prevent people from
ultimately you know dying of whatever the you know the perceived threat is even if it's just like
you know social embarrassment is something the worst, you know, that people these days have to deal with or, you know, minor type stuff like that.
But, you know, it's evolution is I don't think it's quite caught up with, you know, modern society.
And we still sort of live in like a reptilian brains. Right.
And we still sort of live in like our reptilian brains, right?
So we're trying to, you know, just kind of, you know, pick and choose our battles in life.
And, you know, there's just so much on people's plates these days.
It's like they're just not focused on like what they need to be.
And then going after is like a whole nother, you know, issue.
But, yeah, I think that, you know, failure definitely is like the signpost
to success as, you know, to quote whoever the hell said that, but I like that one.
Yeah, thank you, Interstellar. And what's your personal experience in relation to this topic?
You have anything to share in regards to that as well?
You have anything to share in regards to that as well?
In regards to failure?
In regards to failure?
Well, not just necessarily failure, but just action and reflection and engaging, disengaging and reengaging.
Oh, I do it every day, bro.
Yeah. How does that? Can you give us an example?
Can you give us an example of an experience of how you do that?
Can you give us an example of an experience of how you do that?
Oh, everything.
Like interpersonal relationships, just whatever, you know, little to big.
Anything that comes to mind offhand, I mean.
Yeah, so let's direct your focus to that, interpersonal relationships.
So how do you explore the natural rhythm of action and reflection in regards to that?
Well, I think when it comes to people, you know, you have to take them with a grain of salt.
You know, you have to, you know, take what you can from them that's positive.
Ignore the negative, which is, you know, very basic stuff.
But, you know, no relationship is perfect.
You have to, I don't know,
people are constantly changing.
I mean, a lot of the personality will stay the same,
but in terms of everything that people have going on
and everything and connecting
you know on that personal level it is it's it's very much like um i just used this quote recently too it's like trying to thread a thread a needle with a bullet right sometimes trying to get stuff
to line up in terms of you know everything but if you you know i don't know i think patience is is a good virtue to have for when it comes to
things like people and um dealing with uh you know some of the aspects that are involved with that so
um you know a lot of the time if you do just sit back things will you know unfold and kind of solve
themselves in terms of you know speaking about speaking
on success there so um i don't know i think sometimes
it's not what you say it's more of what you don't say that can think that can be helpful and i think
a lot of people are you know so consumed with immediate gratification and trying to
you know get get that instant you know solution to their problems so when it comes to people
um you know i think if you give them their space or um you know even even just if you want to think of that as like respect, right?
Like, as, you know, someone in this space that is being respectful and stuff,
and likewise, you would hope that they would do the same with you.
But I'm just saying, you know, if you can, you know,
I think the best thing you can do with anybody is to try to understand them.
And, you know, they do say that, you know,
today's expectations lead to tomorrow's regrets.
Or I'm sorry, is it resentment?
Today's expectations lead to tomorrow's resentments.
So, you know, you can't put anything on someone else, right?
someone else right you have to have responsibility for your own actions and you know i think the key
You have to have responsibility for your own actions.
to life is like the middle of the road meeting people halfway and you know just trying to to
compromise and you know that'll that'll take you that'll take you far you know
yeah thank you interstellar compromise patient right i think you know i didn't even think about
the word patience i was thinking about extending grace to others just like how i would want to
receive grace from others as well but patience yeah patience is definitely a crucial crucial
word so yeah appreciate you answering that question, man. Sure.
Yeah, man.
Thank you for being here.
So, Ahmed, I see you got your hand up, but I want to tap in with Colby and Crypto because they've been on stage for a while, if they have anything to say.
But if not, then we'll go to you, Ahmed.
Colby, what's up?
Hey, how you doing, man?
How's it going, man?
I'm okay.
How you doing? How you doing today? Good it going man i'm okay how you doing how you doing today
good good oh hold up sorry i was getting feedback in my headset
oh um yeah no but i've been hearing you guys speak about like just you know resiliency
in general and um you know something i always come back to when, you know, I'm struggling in those moments is just general philosophies.
And recently I've been looking into Buddhism in general and, you know, especially the part about how, you know, suffering is something that is an inherent part of our existence whether you know
it's through sickness old age you know to you know our death at the eventual end you know it's the
two things that uh we'll all have to face one day you know it's it's unavoidable. Um, and you know, the cause of it is desire and, you know, craving for,
you know, um,
worldly possessions and that attachment to power. Um,
but circling back to fear, you know, it,
it shapes us in a way.
Sorry, I'm losing my track of thought a little bit.
Give me one second.
Okay, but overcoming fear through action is something that i've been you know thinking about a lot in my life recently um and i guess a story to tie it back to would be you know all my
life i had like the worst fear of heights um public speaking's a good one to mention as well
but um you know all my life i had a fear of heights i'm from
orlando so theme park capital the u.s and um growing up around all these roller coasters
never wanted to ride any of them you know uh 18th birthday came around it was around covid time
and uh i was like okay you know there's not much to do can't really go out not many you know
okay, there's not much to do.
Can't really go out.
Not many events to go out to.
So what could I do?
My buddy joked, knowing my fear of heights,
and said skydiving would be the right option.
And I went through with it, bought the tickets that night.
We went out. We did it from 18,000
feet. And, you know, I wasn't really, really thinking about what I was doing until, you know,
you start signing those packets of waivers. I don't know if anyone here has been, but they,
they throw you a book to sign pretty much, you know?
But again, it wasn't really thinking much about it.
Just kind of, you know, going skydiving with the boys.
And then that plane starts taking off and you get that feeling in your stomach,
that pit, your ears start popping a little bit.
And you get up to the top and that door opens
and, you know,
you know,
you're going out,
start walking towards the edge.
And at that point,
I mean,
that's where,
you know,
they go,
they say on three and they go three and they just run because,
you know,
they don't want people to grab
and those first like i don't know 10 seconds out the air or out the plane um it's like a
pit and you're like you're just they got that stomach drop feeling like on a roller coaster
that got that stomach drop feeling like on a roller coaster and you know eventually it subsides
and you can appreciate the view and the experience that you're going through um
and because you know there's only there's only two results right you either make it on the ground
and you had the best time of your life or you fail which you know doesn't
doesn't end the best for you but you know it's not it's not your problem anymore so the the best thing to do in those moments of fear doubt and
uncertainty is to just accept what's going to come and keep pushing through and enjoy
the moments that you can get out of it if that that makes sense. And I didn't ramble too much.
No, thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
I'd missed, it kind of cut off for me,
but when you started off, you shared about the roller coaster,
and I was wondering, so when you turned 18,
did you initially take that initiative to want to go on the roller coaster?
Or was it your friends that kind of gave you that gentle nudge?
Well, I don't want to say some alcoholic beverages were involved the night before, but they may have been consumed.
And my buddies threw the idea out. you know i i agreed it's it's about
willing to say yes to more things and that's what it was about i mean it it was it was you know just
the start of covid you know i was i was class of 21 so i mean't really, didn't really get to experience much of that. You know, I was just
looking for the little bit of excitement, right. And said, yes. And it, it's kind of like a mantra
I've started. I'm 22 now. So, I mean, it's something I've kept with for, sorry, I was
getting a phone call. Um, but it's something I've kept with me for a while. And it's had great returns. I mean, just in my life in general, just living with that mantra and that experience.
influences and substances can, I guess, you know, catapult us to do certain actions.
I'm not, I am not going to advise that, okay? I'm not going to advise that. It's not the moral of the story.
No, I know, I know, I know that's not what you're doing, and I know that's not the moral of the story,
but I'm just, you know, I'm highlighting that, you know, sometimes that happens for people, you know, but...
No, it does. It does take that little extra boost, the little liquid courage, you know, just to get you moving. I mean, it's just about saying yes and keeping it pushing. Just take
those steps. Don't flake, you know? A lot of people tend to say, like, I could have
just said, yeah, that's great, and then woke up the next morning and gone, I'm not doing
this. Like, are you crazy?
Yeah, I said yes, but like, it's about the follow through at the end of the day.
And what you'll learn through the process of that and just living your life
and to the most you can live it to is, you know, that's how you get the most out of it.
Yeah, the follow through, you know, you mentioned acceptance,
acceptance of what is to come through and mantras. Yeah.
Mantra is a definitely, definitely good, a good practice tool to have,
you know, in one's tool book in terms of, you know, being active or taking action.
So thank you, Colby. I appreciate you for sharing your story.
Okay. We'll go to, let's go to appreciate you for sharing your story. Okay, we'll go to...
Let's go to Ahmed because he already had his hand up.
But I definitely want to tap in with crypto as well afterwards, okay?
So Ahmed, how are you doing?
I'm doing good.
Am I audible to you guys?
Say that again.
Am I audible to you?
Can you hear me?
It's a little bit muffled.
It's muffled.
Just give me a minute.
Is it okay now?
It's still a little bit muffled.
I think my mic is a little bit, you know. i usually use this mic but
yeah no worries achmed maybe try sort that out and then we'll come back to you okay
is it okay now still some noise still some noise a little bit i can hear you okay a little bit yeah you you can you can move forward
like you can move a bit like the other guys i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna fix this mic maybe it's not
my day today yeah and then we'll come back to you okay let's go to yeah no worries let's go to
crypto if crypto is willing to share you've been on stage for a while and i see dean came up on
stage and i definitely want to tap in with our co-hosts anny and wise as well and of course
kevin as well too so let's go crypto how are you doing i'm good thanks how are you doing i'm doing Well, man, I'm engaging.
Yeah.
I actually like the conversations that I hear.
So, yeah, I'm Bobby Andrea.
I'm from Africa, Zambia, to be specific.
And this page is actually like a new Twitter twitter page i opened it's actually a charity
charity fund i'm trying to to start for for like my country using crypto to like try and help out
the vulnerable especially the girls in the streets and like the elderlies even these women at the
maternity but yeah i actually love the conversation in this space because i can relate
to what most of the people are talking about and it's good to see that certain paths it's not only
you who's in that position you know so hearing about these other situations from other people
it's actually it's actually good to know that there are also people out there that go through certain things, you know.
Like everybody's saying, it's okay to fail, you just don't have to stay in the failure lane, you know.
Other than that, I'm just here to engage and listen. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Crypto. What part of Zambia are you from?
I'm from Nusaka.
Ah, the capital, right? The capital city. Yeah.
Yeah, man. I actually, so my great grandma, yeah, my great grandma was full Zambian. So
I have a little bit of Zambian blood in me as well, but I'm Tanzanian. Nice, bro. Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you, bro.
I'll give you a follow, just to learn.
Oh, yeah, a lyricist.
Nice.
I also make music on the side.
Awesome.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate that.
Okay, let's go back to Ahmed.
But before that, I just want to highlight other people that have been coming through the room. I see Anika here, Rose is here, Melissa here, Steve is here. Steve, you're welcome to
come up and speak, man. I know one of my last spaces you weren't able to, so definitely want
to, I've been thinking about that a lot, so feel free to come up whenever, man, and we'll get to
you. Ezreal, Habibi, Nola, Arsai, Deep, Joshua, Kachi, Eduardo, Coldbread, Dolvins, Jackie, Beloved, LME,
CXD, The Natural, and Kachi again, man.
Thank you all for being here.
So, Ahmed, is your mic okay?
Yeah.
Is that okay now?
I've changed the room now.
Yeah, much better.
Much better.
Okay.
So, I am basically juggling with my thoughts probably thinking
how i can contribute to this space i'm 27 i was born in december 97 so
i think i'm much older than a lot of guys in this space.
I'm actually older than you, actually, for a few months.
Yeah, yeah.
So most of the time, I find people are mostly Gen Z over the internet.
But that's okay if like age is just a number
we are old like our experience say how old we are or our behavior say how old we are but that's okay
there's something different so I was just juggling with my thoughts I'm a software developer and i see like you are a lyricist and one of our very
beautiful speaker was a songwriter so very creative people here and i like being around
these creative people so this uh this space is about exploring natural rhythm of action and reflection.
I have been a procrastinator all my life and I've been a very shit worker.
I think I would have achieved so much if I have put more effort.
So this is some kind of a regret that I keep with myself.
But I also keep reminding myself that it's never too late.
I just realized I've been recently active on Twitter for like the past six days because I've started building in public.
So I just got this idea by watching some of the podcasts and motivations that I have to build in public so i just got this idea by watching some of the podcasts and motivations
that i have to build in public so if anybody who is a developer here in this space
who knows what building in public basically means so you are building a product and also posting the public so i i just uh realized that this my account on twitter was i i basically joined in
2015 the same year i started coding and i got 100 followers after 10 years and i just realized i
asked myself it's been 10 years i've been on this platform but i never built a personal brand for
myself never ever like i've been coding for nine years now i've been working in the industry for
three years i've been teaching kids in a remote area for like five years so community wise i was
good when i was in degree degree, I got dropped out.
But then I got admission back in another university.
I started a society there.
I taught my fellow students, started a society.
Did very good.
And even I was a very good speaker there.
But over the internet, I did not achieve much.
Like this, there is a space in my heart there's a gap in my heart
like i should have done better on the internet because i believe that i belong to the internet
like what i am right now i could would have been much more than that this is what i these are just
the thoughts uh i've been juggling right now so i hope i'm i'm
contributing to this space like there there have been very really good speakers they have shared
very very good things shared very good experience i hope my experience also counts as a contribution
but so another thing i just want to share is
So another thing I just want to share is, like, what I can say.
I also lost my train of thoughts, like this Cody guy who was speaking just before me.
Just give me a minute.
No problem.
I'm just going to quickly chime in and let you guys know.
If you guys are enjoying the space, definitely go and hit that repost button.
So you press can get some exposure.
And, you know, this is a really, really good conversation.
And everybody gets to bring value in here.
So definitely go ahead and share that space out.
Don't forget to follow your hosts.
Obviously, Prez and Wise Muse, they have been, you know, they're here to like, you know, like they're here for free.
So that one follow button could mean a lot to them.
So definitely hit that follow, hit that repost,
share your thoughts on the space with your audience
and don't forget to shout them out.
And also wanted to say that I do have to leave Prez
and Kevin too, because we have a sub only space.
If anyone's interested in that, definitely uh chime in we have we'll
probably go on for an hour so i'm definitely not saying like leave this and go there but um but
yeah we usually talk about um branding and today we're actually talking about how to build your
personal brand on the on um on x and if you subscribe to kevin you get entry on there and
blah blah but otherwise um don't want to really make it about me. There are a couple things on the Jumbotron.
Like I have a, how to host a space ebook that you guys can take advantage of, which is a good
resource. Uh, Melo B was up here when, uh, she was, she's a singer, she's a musician. Like,
you know, she has amazing music. So go, uh, if you feel the, amazing music. Go ahead and go support her because her music is amazing. I pinned that up top as well. Prez, I don't know what to pin for you, dude. I wish you had some kind of an amazing intro. Hopefully, maybe that's your homework there. We talk about personal branding all the time, but your homework would be to create a pinned post that talks about you,
yourself, and what you like to do, what your purpose is on X. So we can like, you know,
pin you up and show you off to people because you are doing amazing things here. You know,
you're an amazing speaker. You're hosting spaces like this that bring value to people. So,
you know, we want to highlight you as much as possible. But for now, I will go ahead and pin up the pin post that he has
and definitely go follow Prez and connect with him. And other than that, I'm going to shut up
and I will be leaving within the next five or six minutes. But if you have any questions,
I'm happy to answer them before I go. Thank you, Ani. And Achmed, thank you for your share. I
appreciate that. Big one yeah big ups big
ups guys big ups guys for the host to the co-host very good work you're you guys are doing really
appreciate that thank you for giving me the chance I just lost my thought but it's okay I have shared
enough with you guys and you can go ahead and move forward with the space thank you guys love you
guys yeah thank you Ahmed appreciate that and I just want to highlight, too, you know, my intentions for any space I host.
You know, you asked if your contribution was worthy.
It was worthy. And I appreciate you being here, supporting the space.
Man, I'm all about diverse perspectives.
And, you know, you mentioned the word procrastination.
You know, that's another word, you know, that I didn't even think about in relation to this topic.
So I think that was very, very relevant amongst other things that you mentioned to keep on doing the things that you're doing.
You know, don't hold on to the regret of the Internet stuff.
And, you know, there's two people here who can definitely help you with that as well.
So, you know, tap into their spaces, you know, Ani and Kevin.
I want to pass it to Kevin.
And I see Sister Donika is on stage too.
But, you know, since Kevin's about to dip, man, I just want to hear his final thoughts as well.
And then we'll keep on going with the show.
What's good, Kevin?
Oh, he might be in another space already.
Okay.
All right.
Never mind.
But, you know, his presence.
He might be in a meeting, honestly.
Okay.
No worries.
Well, tell him, you know, thank you. I appreciate him being here. And, yeah, you know his presence he might be in a meeting honestly okay no worries well tell
him you know thank you i appreciate him being here and yeah you know always a pleasure you know i
really do appreciate it okay so i see let's see let's go to the natural and then we'll go to
donika and then raul came up on stage early on and then jack i see you too okay so we'll go in that
order what's up the natural what's up my brother so i'm about 20 years on you i'm in i'm 47
i've lived a pretty interesting life and had all the same thoughts and worries and fears that i've
been hearing today and i've been working um I've been doing Vipassana meditation for
about 15 years, over 8,000 hours. I do a lot of work with people. And there's something that
I've got to share when I hear this, all these things, because I can share with you now. I wish,
like I do my son, I try to give everybody the lessons I've learned so that you don't have to
learn them the hard way too. You know, you can one fear fear is like a big rock in a river it causes energy to flow around it it
creates an eddy behind it and get you and you can get caught up in that right and that's that so
that creates turbulence in your life the fear does so it's beautiful to see kobe you taking the
initiative and moving through some of your fear and
going for it and and realizing that a lot of this limitation that we have is literally mental
it's just mental ideas and things that have come into our space and programming from when we're
children and other experiences you know so it's beautiful that you're doing that ahmed for me well
for me for fear for me too I've had to
get over a lot of fear uh when I used to first get on spaces my hands would get really sweaty
and all this stuff I had a different account and I did a lot of big things years ago and and it was
like then I finally got over those fears because once you get aligned with who you are this is
where I'm going to go with Ahmed um once you start getting aligned with who you are and how you know what that is,
is that you're happy.
You have a general level of happiness
through your life.
We're always going to have these challenges, right?
But these experiences,
like I have not good enough on the internet yet
or I'm not doing this or that, whatever.
I want to tell you all something very special.
Every experience that each of you have had, the different lives we've lived, every single
experience you individually have had has the wisdom in it for you to be your best person
right now.
Every individual experience is equal in that manner.
It doesn't matter what you're experiencing, whether it's something so super special over
or where you think it's better than someone else.
It doesn't matter because each of the lessons that each of us have have the
wisdom in it and what happens is that if we're not in alignment with with truth reality or we
have some other uh story along with what we're experiencing that's not aligned with truth
is that that wisdom is buried within you. It's buried within that experience.
And when you go and you begin to investigate who you are a little more,
doing things like for me, it's Vipassana.
I try to transcend the mind.
I get beyond those thoughts because then when I come back out of that state of being,
what's real is left.
And everything that was just my ideas, they're not there anymore. So what's real will always be here that was just my ideas they're not there anymore you know so
what's real will always be here and you are not your thoughts and you'll find that out that what's
real will always be here you can literally let go of all the things you're carrying all the ideas
about not being good enough all these different things because what's our real goal isn't isn't
to compare ourselves to people in a fiction society that's creating money and following this and claiming this sort of success is having lots of money and
bank accounts and and power right so the real reality is when that's not there anymore i know
people collectively there were billionaires in my lifetime i don't know them anymore but i've been
around and it doesn't matter that they have money because their happiness starts from within themselves.
And their alignment with what their real integrity is, if they're doing what's right in life,
if they're making these choices on a daily basis for themselves that are good.
Like these are the types of things that are going to get you into that happiness that will attract you
and develop you into the being you're supposed to be and that you know you were when you were born. We have to be careful of the programming that's been going on continuously in social media,
on the news, everywhere that will distract you from the real reality that when you discover
that alignment is where it's at, that everything that's true and real is always there, even if I
was not to be living right now, it's still true for you to find.
So that means that everything is objectively true, isn't of my mind. My ego can go away. I can attract more of that and realize that I can relax and get my nervous system calm enough to
where I don't have these fears overtaking my mind. I don't have these negative self-talks
overtaking my mind. I'm aligning myself negative self-talks overtaking my mind.
I'm aligning myself.
And when I go out of alignment, I come back in.
And how you know is your nervous system.
Your nervous system is your guidance system.
If it's calm and you feel relaxed and good and centered,
then you're aligned.
If it's getting anxiety and it's doing other things
and you're not feeling very,
you're feeling anxious and things, you're not in alignment.
So I just want to share that with all y'all young men and women here.
And I hope that will resonate in you and you can take those seeds and farm them.
Thank you, The Natural.
I appreciate that.
You know, what's real will always be here and you're not your thoughts.
I really like that. And, you know, we did talk about misalignment early on I want to spit
this poem before Arnie and Kevin dip I know down a tight schedule and it was
some are you dipping right away silly okay cool yeah Perez if I could just
chive in we have a space scheduled so we do have to go before the set time so I
appreciate you for having me I heard you called on me earlier.
I've just been doing some work in the background, but I've been listening.
The space has been really, really fun and really, really learned a lot, guys.
So, yeah, we're going to head out to our sub-only space.
So thanks again, man.
The space has been really fun, and I hope to see you around.
Peace.
Yeah, thank you, man.
Appreciate that.
Thank you, Arnie, as well well for co-hosting alongside me
and wise as well so yeah tap into what they do man tap into the branding everything they do they
definitely help a lot of people so yeah okay actually we'll go to donika and then we'll go to
i believe it was raul and then is jack still on stage? I don't know if Jack is still
on stage, but okay, we'll go to Donika and then Raul afterwards, okay? And then maybe I'll spit
my poem afterwards. Hi, Donika. Hi, Praze. How you doing? So good to see you. I just have been
following you, and I just love what you're doing in the community.
Always so kind and caring.
And the group of friends that you always surround yourself, they're so positive and uplifting.
I saw Kevin in here too and Jackie and Love Troll, so many beautiful faces.
But hello and thank you for letting me co-host because I love coming and helping, but you are doing a fantastic job by yourself.
So exploring the natural rhythm of action and reflection.
me, I've been a teacher, biology, chemistry teacher for over 35 years, but I'm a mindfulness
coach and public speaker. This has been going for 15 years. And what I see, it is when you are in
the flow with your thoughts, with your emotions, and with timing. It is so good because people can receive you.
But when we try so hard and your energy and your thoughts and your body is not aligned,
your deliverance doesn't come across as authentic or just to be that confident person.
authentic or just to be that confident person.
So before we start doing all these spaces, we start talking, be that person within you.
Then learn how to listen more.
Appreciate people, then give you feedback and ask more questions.
My father used to say, honey, listen twice and speak once. But when you speak, that is
going to be the stamp in envelope. Because if you don't speak right, that envelope will come back to
you. And it says wrong address. So when we deliver, we have to think, is it going to touch somebody? Has a purpose, that word or that sentence that you are sharing, that your story.
And always see your audience.
Who is that for?
Because when we come in this social media,
not everybody wants to listen to me,
but they can receive that message from you so good.
So the tone, the pace pace the pitch is very important and how you build this connection
with people is very important if you come for money forget it but if you come to monetize that
spiritual wealth and the people are going to receive you because we connect from a place where we belong and we all are the same.
We're a spiritual being.
Then we are learning our lessons and we're just bringing the puzzles of pieces together as old and complete.
When you start with that mindset and at the end of the day you reflect,
what did I do for myself? Did I help somebody else through my action? Are my decisions that I make,
they are reflecting, who am I? Authentic, unique. Am I helping myself? How people see me?
unique? Am I helping myself? How people see me? And then don't do it from a selfish point,
but do it because you're doing the right thing. Being a teacher, you are on a platform for six
hours than I teach. And when you are coach, we are parents, grandparents, brothers, sister,
because we are a little bit older. But if that inner child is not healed,
and you still continue to give the wrong message to the adults,
then we do more damage.
So reflect on yourself.
Do that inventory of your body, mind, and soul,
how you speak to yourself and how you deliver to others.
If you are hurt, sometimes we can do more damage when we talk.
And if you do that reflection and you accept yourself with kindness and compassion without judgment,
but you are mindful, I mean, then you have space for others not to change, but to be who they are.
So that's always for me action our decision
making but make the decision first for yourself and second for people that are around you because
it's going to affect you and it's going to affect others if i am angry and I punish my kids because I'm angry and I have my own
problem, they'll be confused and say, Ms. Gunther, what's going on? And they know how to read me.
So if I have any situation, I say, today I'm sad. Something happened. So their compassion is,
okay, Ms. Gunther is not feeling good. Let's be quiet. So open that communication
and be open for feedback because the growth and transformation is on asking questions,
allowing people to see you and sometimes to correct. So this is what I want to say and I
have a small poem for you and I'll close my mouth and be quiet.
So this is called, team your fears and turn into your power.
When shadows whisper in your ear and doubt becomes a voice you hear,
don't run, don't hide, don't shrink or cover. It's time to team your fears
and turn to power. The fear that says you are not enough, that life is hard, the road too rough.
It's just a mirror asking you to see the fire you are walking through.
Invite your fear to sit beside.
Look it calmly in the eyes.
Ask it was.
It is what is here to teach.
What strength is trying to help you reach?
For fear when faced becomes a guide, not something dark you must deny.
It points you to the inner key, the truth you are more than just can see.
Each heartbeat racing every doubt is strength in silence screaming out your courage growth with every scar
you are not just wounded you are a star so take that fear and lace your shoes it's time to walk
in battle truth you are not a captive of the hour. Teem your fears and turn into your power. Thank you.
Thank you, Donica. Yeah, I don't think I have to spit a poem no more after that. I think that
that was powerful. Can you say the name of the poem again?
Can you say the name of the poem again?
Turn your fear into the power.
Turn your fear into the power.
Yeah, wow.
The synchronicities in this space, guys.
The stuff that we've talked about.
And I think a lot of it was captured in that poem, you know, from some of the shares that we heard.
So, Danica, thank you so much for, you know, first accepting the co-host and also sharing your share.
And you have a lot of experience, man.
And being in education, doing the things that you do, you know, you're very, very humble, too.
But I know you also honor your own divine sovereignty.
So thank you for always sharing and doing the things that you do for people, not just on this app, but off the app too, because I definitely want to highlight that too. So yeah, we got Raul and then we'll go to Kachi.
Hi, Press. Thanks for letting me speak. And Donika, a very beautiful message. You know,
in this time, we as a humanity have reached to the point that we need to remind ourselves
who we are our potential because the level of self-doubt self-reflection like self-doubt is so
high nowadays you know like people are literally struggling a lot inside their heart and most of the time they don't share actually you know
i see people don't share until it's like the extreme you know then they start speaking that
yeah i'm also facing problem i'm having self-doubt and in this time you know we need to remind
ourselves our real potential i i personally read a lot even even in asian text
and see the human the human potential is so strong that uh our ancestors used to be so powerful that
if i tell you like the things they were able to do nowadays we call it as a myth that it's not
possible that's a level we have reached that we we won't even accept that it was possible.
And now in the time of internet, social media,
we are constantly losing our energy
way more than we recharge ourselves.
And that's one of the top reasons that a lot of time
we are always self-doubting that, can I do this?
Is it possible? Why am I failing?
We have lost so much of that in this competitive environment where most of the people just talk about, I achieved this, I achieved this.
Nobody talks about their failure, which creates a theory in people's mind that they all are winning you know but i'm
always losing but in reality to win that certain exam or to achieve something they worked so hard
but they don't share you know that i worked i worked like 16 hours a day for two years to
achieve this they just show the result and in social, it is creating so much self-doubt
in people that they don't even want to work hard to think that, oh, I think it's easy. For example,
you know, in movies, if you see hackers show that they hacked a certain system. But in reality,
to achieve that as a hacker, you know, it will take you years and years to even find solutions.
It will take you years and years to even find solutions.
So in this time where our self-doubt is really going down and we are losing our capacity to, even the knowledge of capacity to achieve something, we really need to remind ourselves that, hey, man, your potential is so high, you know, like, for example, I will, I will show you like,
there are so many examples in Asian texts, for example, like example of yogis where,
where they mastered hunger, thirst, they literally because you know, according to science,
according to science, everything we see is just energies vibrating at certain frequencies.
Everything we see is just energies vibrating at certain frequencies.
If you can create those energies at those frequencies, you can manifest reality.
Because reality is basically an illusion.
It's all energy.
So if you can vibrate those energies, because nuclear scientists, even know quantum scientists they do these experiments they
create electron proton just by vibrating energies similarly we can do that through our mind but
obviously you know you have to develop those capabilities you can literally create things out
of nothing just like economy you know we see money money is nothing money is created out of nothing
actually you know it's just economics they they said okay this is the currency Money is created out of nothing, actually. It's just economics. They said, okay, this is the currency.
This is going to be backed by gold.
Okay, now it's not backed by gold.
We can print infinite.
We just increase the debt ceiling.
We print trillions of dollars.
We shift inflation to other countries.
It's all out of nothing.
Similarly, you can create energies at a certain frequency to make things what you want.
That's why we say that we should speak positive. Why?
Because, you know, voice, our voice energy, it is called Shabda Brahm in Sanskrit.
And Brahm is eternal. Brahm is what is made up of you, me, everything is made up of Brahm, including sound.
So if you speak positive, it creates that energy around you.
So now if you speak positive, your energy will be positive.
People around you, their energy will also be affected by your energy.
So being you positive, you are helping others also being positive.
And if you are negative, people around you will also get affected by it and if you are
already surrounded by negative people then you are doomed you know so you have to have positivity for
yourself so that you can also help others you know so there's a lot to you know uh speak on this and
donika you know amazing point you know you brought that you need to have you need to have that, you know, self-care first, you know, self-care.
When you have self-care, you can also care for others.
But these days, you know, people are not even thinking about their health, their mental health, their even physical health until it reaches to a certain point then they realize that they have to do it but I think we need to
be aware of
first at least about ourselves
because then our consciousness level
will go to the point
where we will even start helping others
that's all, thank you
Thank you Ro
thank you for your share man
yeah, self-doubt
and how that can affect us and our actions that we take or don't choose to take.
And, you know, you mentioned energy, frequency, vibration, scientists, and also how speaking positive not only helps you, but it can also affect your sphere of influence with others as well.
So, yeah, man, great, great thoughts.
You know, I think everything is a balance, too, right?
You know, Melody mentioned earlier on in the space about toxic positivity too. So just
being aware of that and yeah, perhaps that can propel us with our routine of being active or
being in action and also being reflective. So I appreciate that, Cheryl. Yeah, Tonika, you got any thoughts? And then we'll go to Kachi.
Yes, very nice, Cher.
And I just love everything you said.
But the point is self-care is very important because more than we can give, especially youth, because they already are confused.
I work with teenagers.
They still don't know the self. They are exploring.
They are more under the peer pressure. And if they don't know who they are, they're going to be really influenced. And if the friends are not in the healthy way, they just like games and, you know,
start experimenting things. They are going to be the very first victim
and to suffer with that mental health.
So it's always good when they come in the morning,
we just do feeling check.
How are you feeling today?
Who can help you?
And what is your goal for today?
Some breathing techniques.
I always do positive affirmation of I am.
In the beginning, it was was like I am strong I'm
stupid I am important I'm confident I'm fed I heard all of them I say until we change the how we talk
we can do the affirmation because you have to believe it first to receive it. Because everything you say, I'm in front of the classroom.
I'm the mirror.
And then it's coming to me.
I don't want that.
Because I'm sending you positive words, positive energy.
So what I'm sending to Miss Gunther.
And that is when they got it.
Oh, it's going to affect her.
And if it affects me, it's going to affect you all day
because my mood is not going to be good.
My energy is going to be low.
So if we can reduce that and it can bring the awareness
and we start practicing.
They say happy wife, happy life, you know.
But how about happy me, you happy us all of together
so you can see in social media too you go to some spaces you just want to sit down there and listen
and you don't want to talk it is so good correct mark you come and speak but there are some rooms
you go five minutes say man i don't want this on
my shoulder i don't want to take this because we are like sponges and you walk because you want to
keep that energy but at the same time you don't want to bring your low energy to somebody else
so if it's something negative go release it somewhere but if you are the Debbie Downer that carry every day
just please don't take that on other people do that inner work because self-care and wellness
is the new wealth it was but it is right now because we need to think what I'm doing for myself. Am I affecting others? Because it's just that
the power, the electricity, one part of the neighborhood, the electricity, the power is
down, it's going to affect the home, it's going to affect the neighborhood. The same thing is for
the energy that we share with others. Yeah, thank you, Donika. And you know, what's important too is that, you know,
we're all exploring this topic as adults and our own experiences. But yeah, what about the kiddos,
you know, and how they choose to reflect? And like, what are the external influences that kind
of help that? I like what you said, happy me, happy you, and then being mindful of our own energy and
how we're feeling and how that can, you know, affect others if we're not mindful of that,
you know, and so it's always important to exhibit self-care. Kind of like you said, wellness is the
new wealth, and yeah, it's important, man. It really is important, and kids, I feel like it's
not only about, like, what they might bring to us if they have low energy, even if we're positively affirming them.
I think, too, it's recognizing how much sometimes we do need to be that anchor for them because they are sponges.
And just having that balance, I think, definitely, definitely makes sense. But knowing that you're so experienced with that population through education, I think it's wonderful that you do the check-ins before you even start school.
Because, yeah, you know, not every kid is going to come in there all happy and whatever, whatever.
And you don't know what other externalities they're dealing with.
Not everybody comes from like a cookie-cutter, silver spoon household, you know, two parents, you know.
Like there's so many factors that maybe a kid might be dealing with. And just having that one person to be like, how, you know, two parents, you know, like there's so many factors that maybe
a kid might be dealing with. And just having that one person to be like, how are you doing today?
How are you feeling? You know, it can go a long way. And perhaps that can also promote those
aspects of the energy shifting, even if they come to you with low energy, but like, oh man,
you checked in on me and it was authentic and it was like whatever, yeah, it would go a long way.
But with adults, sometimes if you're not mindful of that, whether it's a space or whether it's just in conversation,
it's like, yeah, man, that energy can definitely rub off on others.
So, okay.
Raul, I see your hand, but I see Kachi and Meta requested.
I want to go to Kachi because Kachi had been waiting for a bit.
And then I want to hear from Meta and then we'll go back to you. Okay, Raul? What's go to Kachi because Kachi had been waiting for a bit and then I want to hear from meta and then we'll go back to you okay roll what's good Kachi welcome Kachi
word of Kachi can you hear? Can anybody else hear me?
Okay, let's go to Meta, and then we'll go to Raul, and then Kachi, if you want to speak, just put your hand up, and we'll go to you, okay?
What's good, Meta?
Hey, Prez. Hey, Donica. Good to see you both. Wonderful space. Yeah, I was just going to add on to the concept of, you know, being a teacher and working with younger people. And I think, yeah, I taught at university level for 10 years. And what I realized was that I was the forever learner.
Because I think over time, you realize that, you know,
I had a lot of experience with the particular subject that I taught,
which was ceramics, but I think the students taught me how to better be a better learner, how to learn how to learn,
and how to approach things in so many different
ways. I think that's kind of what's laying the foundation. I didn't realize that even as you
hear me talk in different spaces, the things that I orbit around, which is dependence,
independence, interdependence, and higher interdependence. I'm just starting to understand and the intertwining
of it all. It comes from, again, mutual understanding and who and what we are,
that we're never really alone. It's respecting all people at all ages, all nationalities,
and realizing that we all have something to bring to the table.
And I think the learning models are changing too, you know, and they do as long as you allow for
mutual respect because, you know, it just, I think that I'm amazed, you know, at so many times that
I taught this pretty much the same course for 10 years, and every year I would
approach it and go, I'm interested in knowing what the universe has to share with me and how I need
to learn and learn how to learn better. And there would always be a new challenge or a new dilemma
to the situation. And I don't even think that, you know, that sometimes the students were
never really aware, but it would present itself on a growth experience for me and for them
mutually. And so it's not really, you know, I'm here to hand down my great knowledge. No, I'm here
to share the fact that I may have some experience and some of the experience that I share may hold
value in which that you get a better experience as you move forward through the experience of
learning these particular techniques. But I'm not, you know, a master in that way,
but I will do my best to listen. And I think that that's, you know,
the best thing to do is to learn to listen,
to learn to listen and learn how to listen better
in all different ways.
And I think that that's kind of what I'm coming
to the understanding of.
And, you know, it could be listening to God.
It could be listening to your neighbor.
It could be listening to your dog. It could be listening to your dog.
It could be listening to your child.
And everyone has a mutual lesson to share if you're willing to open your ears.
But I was going to share a little poem here.
I'm sure someone will know.
I saw one of your posts, Donica,
and I pulled this poem off my fridge because I think it's very fitting
because it was, you paraphrased one of the lines on it.
And if you don't mind, Prez, I'll share it with everyone
because I think it's very fitting.
And it kind of goes like, you don't mind, right?
No, yeah, go ahead. But real quick before you share I just want to
just say yeah I think guys maybe we'll go for another
30 to 45 minutes so listeners if you want to come up
and speak now is the chance to do so and yeah man
meta yeah hit it bro. Yeah it's
I'll just read the poem and then I'll give its context.
It's called Anyway, and some of you have probably heard it.
People are often unreasonable, illogic, and self-centered.
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives.
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies.
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you.
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight.
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous. Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow. Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough. Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God.
It is never between you and them anyway.
Yeah, this and at the bottom it says,
Mother Teresa hung a copy of this poem on the wall of her orphanage.
She found it in Calcutta its source is unknown so yeah thank you for letting me share
wow dang and its sources it's wow it's unknown that's man man yeah these poems definitely been
hitting differently for me and yeah meta you, being a forever learner, the levels of dependence that you've mentioned before.
I quickly want to ask you before we go to Rahul, what does higher interdependence look like for you?
That's a great question. I would say interdependence is understanding all of life and you're intertwining with,
and higher interdependence is understanding your dependence with Gaia and your interdependence
with the cosmos. So each one is an, what I realized and I visualize it as from a mathematical term is a different order of magnitude,
sort of sphere within the spheres. So you see dependency is, and it's same, similar, I used to
use an analogy of like a sandbox. When you're a baby, you're in a little tiny sandbox or, you know,
or you're very close to your mother. Then you go into a crib. And then from a crib, you go into a crib and then from a crib you go into a room then from a room you expand your
perceptual awareness into a house and so on so forth right into your city into your town and so
that inter that those dependent words as well are all intertwined like you know onion shells like
dependent interdependent sorry dependent, interdependent, and then higher is like cosmic.
So it's understanding the math, and it's very subtle. I think as we age and mature and bloom
into those different levels, it's a perceptual awareness of how the cosmos interacts with the planet, which interacts with us, which we then
share these different wisdoms in different levels and are different. Because we all bloom in
different styles and we're all at different levels of blooming as well. So coming to some
people will share certain aspects of that interdependence on that level. And then someone will share a higher
interdependent level, how it connects up to cosmos, and then bring it right back to, you know,
maybe early childhood experience of the dependency. And they are all intertwined and interconnected.
And it's not that we see them as higher or lower, They're just, they're interwoven within each other. And that's what I'm understanding now, that interconnectedness
of those. So it's not a matter of a hierarchy or a pyramid. It's that we see each other all as
equal within those different spheres. And we just perceive our awareness, spheres of awareness
will just expand further as we share and inter-share
between each other more and more and i think that's what's happening now we're we're that
that awakening is just the putting the puzzles together to those higher um higher interdependent
realms that we and that we've always been there we We're just remembering. I hope that answers your question.
Sorry, it was a little long-winded.
No, you're good. Thank you.
I appreciate that, yeah.
And I appreciate the clarification, too,
in terms of how it might be perceived
in a hierarchical nature
and it's not supposed to be that way.
And yeah, I thought about conscious expansion, too,
either as an individual or part of the collective right as
it being tied to the term higher interdependence so thank you man i really do appreciate that let's
go to raul and then i don't know who else is on stage but yeah we'll go to raul for now
yeah actually i just uh wanted to share something like uh you know, like Donika is working with young people these days
with kids also and seeing problems at hand. I have actually worked at an ad tech where I used to
talk to probably not 100, I think thousands of users because by the time I was there, we had 24,000 users. And I basically used to building AI-related courses, but I used to talk to them, you know, to understand their problems.
And many times they used to openly share the problems, the phase, and mental issues were one of the top problems.
You know, they are not able to handle stress.
And I can't blame them because, you know, nobody is teaching them how to solve these problems.
Because at education institutions, we just teach art, math, science, languages.
We don't teach the real life problems and how to deal with it.
They have so many problems, so many problems.
You know, these schools, I mean, I'm from Indiaia so i know these schools are charging so much money
i mean parents are literally paying money to teach their kids just to prepare for a job not prepare
for a life and they don't wake up even at a point when something happens they're like why did it
happen they don't even think why it happened actually they are you know like the lifestyle we have nowadays is like you know you you just want
to give job to others you know like you want your kids to learn from school and then you want your
kids to learn from other tutors you don't do not teach your kids the problems you have faced in your life how to
deal with it to your you know kids so that they understand how life works what happens if something
goes wrong what happens if you don't succeed in something you know nobody teaches us how to handle
failure and especially you know i i don't know i can't even blame them also because probably their
parents also didn't teach them, you know.
So it's like a vicious cycle.
So now people who are into these things now, they understand these things.
Then they teach their kids, you know.
So if we fix this current young generation, our next generation will be safe.
But our previous generations, they were just focused on probably you know being financially
stable and solve the those problems and they forgot that these things also matter because
they they were raised at a time probably 80s 90s when we didn't have a lot of problems because there
was no internet there was no social media and it came recently so i least i know my parents they didn't face any problems so they
never thought that these can even exist you know but it is existing i was lucky to explore and find
all the answers by myself but not everybody can be that lucky because it is a very hard path and i wish i feel that i wish i would have got some guidance
that's why i work on sharing my knowledge as much as i can so that i can also help others
but you know i see a lot of people are waking up and sharing these things i've been in india you
know honestly speaking i was checking on google search, the search mental health and India's search ranking was really low.
Like nobody cares actually still here now.
It's it will take some time probably, you know, but I see in the West it's very people are talking openly now and sharing these things.
Even on threats, I see people are sharing their feelings and, you know, exploring how to solve these problems.
But these problems can be solved very easily.
You need to fix certain things, but the problem is, again, knowledge.
We have so much noise on the Internet now to find the right answer,
what and it should be even customized also because we all have different different problems
and it should be even customized also because we all have different problems.
it needs to be customized and we all have different uh level of understanding so you know
like i feel that if we we need to customize this and we can use all the existing technologies to
do that and that's where something i i will not do and i'm trying to do so So yeah, Donika, you know, you can speak. Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah, go ahead, Donika.
Oh, no, I want to apply, Rahul, because Rahul touched everything you're supposed to take this,
snap it, everything that Rahul said, and put it in every social media than you are Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn and everything.
So to bring awareness to educators and to parents.
And what it touched my heart is my parents had a good life and didn't teach me all of this.
70% of the students that I work, they come from rural area.
Okay, I work in school district.
And most of them, they don't know how to write a check. They don't know how to balance money.
They don't know how to talk about confidence. They don't know how to go out there for interview.
So what I, because they are eighth grade, they are 13, 14, ready to go in high school and look for the first job i taught them how to dress for that how to talk we just put a team of kids with the three people
then they are going take you for interview how to present yourself how to come in time
how to call back and to see if you get the job, how to write a check. And they were like, wow, they were exposed to a different world.
I came from third world country from Albania.
So when I came in America, I didn't know English.
But they get so inspired when you tell your story.
And they build that relationship and they trust you because I walk through that life.
I did it and I came to the other side.
And I put things that I work because, you know, I'm a public speaker
and I put pictures of what I've done in schools that I've done,
speaking gigs that I've done.
And the kids always stare in there and say,
Miss Gunther, one day I want to be like you.
I say you already are because you inspire me right now to be a better person.
But when you become like me or I inspire you, you know so much more.
So we have to bring that awareness.
There are teachers that have a happy life and never have to go through
anything so there are two kind of teachers teacher then come and do the job and they have the life
like easy and they like to do it and there are teachers then they really live that life
and they are there for the kids because we have seen both kinds okay so more than you open up and more than you let the kids to
talk because they want to be seen heard and value and let them to take the action let them to be
creative let them to reflect if they make mistakes and to understand that there's part of life and you go home and you say man I helped somebody
and for the one that are parents please never cut the kids in the middle if they want to talk
drop everything I'll tell you my daughter is 25 but one time she was talking talking and was very
important our topic and I was busy I was doing
something in my mind about money I'm single mom and I have to write like a check and she was so
hurt and she said mother did you hear me what I said I said yes she said the repeat and I was so
embarrassed cut on my own life and I said baby I'm very sorry and she went upstairs crying I said I'm so
sorry I never do that and that was the biggest lesson when she talked I look right in her eyes
and I just never interrupt her until she's done so sometimes kids can be the best teacher and the
best life school so thank youul. Absolutely love what you said.
Yeah, Rahul, you want to respond?
Yeah, like, you know, talking to, you know, young people while actually I was building
products, I never thought that it would just open another dimension for me
to explore because personally I have been exploring yoga and meditation from past 20 years
it has I have been lucky actually in all of that I have been very lucky that I got things when I
didn't even know the importance of it and it helped me to work in corporate with different different situations
and I'm very I used to be very shy person introvert in terms of talking you know I was not a person
who go up only in any space and share these things you know I changed a lot I later on I realized that this is neuroplasticity in neurological terms and how you achieve that.
So personally, yoga, meditation, reading, journaling, writing, you know, a lot of things
I have been doing and understanding how it can help a person in dealing with different things.
understanding how it can help a person in dealing with different different things
that's why i read a lot and it helps me i now i openly go and talk with people uh with anyone i
can talk with anyone now without you know i'm not shy anymore the way i used to be so that's why
like i'm kind of working on these things now uh which i never thought i would actually i thought
my life would be like i would be just doing a job that's it but i left my job last year to you know explore a different space
of entrepreneurship and it is very beautiful because i i see that the thing i'm doing now it
is more uh mentally making me happy even though financially it's not and nothing right now but i know you know money comes when
the main thing is satisfaction there is a saying in sanskrit that a person who is satisfied
he's happier than those you know who probably live in heaven because even people in heaven
are not satisfied they are competing with each other so if you are satisfied on earth
your situation is better than the king of heaven.
Thank you. Thank you, Prez. Thank you, Danica.
I absolutely love what you said. Yeah, Prez, I didn't know if you heard, but go ahead.
I don't want to take over. Thank you again.
No, no, you're good. No, don't know for some reason i had mic issues
i was just gonna say no shout out to i see some people down there in the room aj no ken y'all
more than welcome to come up shall i see you as well has been here for a while breaker nola has
been here for a while kiva kim del thank you for your comment man appreciate that and a little miss
yeah man feel free to grab a mic we're going to be closing probably in the next 15 or 20. I want to honor other people's time and what they want to
do as well. But definitely want to hear you guys chime in on this topic. So yeah, Donica, you want
to share something back to Roel and then we'll go to AJ? Yeah, I love what he said because it is very important.
I was talking to my vice principal today in school and he said,
Ms. Gunther, you're always so positive, giving compliment to others.
How do you do that?
I said, mindfulness.
He helped me in meditation.
He said, I actually was like, I used to be angry before,
but I started following this guy.
I don't know if you know his name is
Sadhguru I said oh man he's one of my first mentors for me and he said I started walking
start journaling I'm doing breathing techniques and I said have you ever done tapping he said no
that is new for me I said and this is what what what is what we need to do when the new school year starts.
We have to do all of that breathing and tapping and, you know,
all the techniques that can help us to be more mindful, more present, and more aware.
And Rahul touched many of that.
But I'm going close with a poem from a good friend of mine, Dale, and he's here. And he's a beautiful writer,
but he sent me this poem and wants me to recite. It's called Breathe.
The breath. Sorry, Dale, I'm going to read for you. The breath. So for anybody, then,
you know, if it's morning, afternoon,
whenever you are, just put both of your hands in your heart and let that heart to rest for a bit
and give and honor your breath. The breath, a silent tide, it ebbs and flows through caverns deep where no one goes. A whisper caught in flesh and bone,
a flitting guest yet all our own. A dense, soft, a fragile thread, a lifeline spoon from blue to red. In every rise a world is born,
in every fall a veil is torn. The wind within, it knows no cage, a restless scribe on life's blank page.
It hums through reeds of lung and throat, its swell of gift, its sight a plea, the breath, the pulse of being free.
End poem by Del.
Thank you, Del. Just breathe and let go.
Just breathe and let go. Thank you, Del. Thank you for sharing that, man. And thank you. Yeah,
that's, yeah, just breathe and let go. I got to remind myself that sometimes too, you know,
AJ, I know you're having trouble coming up, man.
Or are you here?
I can't tell.
But if you are, I mean, if you want to come back, I definitely want to hear your points before we close out, bro.
Meta, I saw you put your hand up originally when Donika was speaking.
Did you want to share anything?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, no, I had another thing to add.
This is what I've jot down, vibed with me here. We are co-creators, co-dreaming, dream weaving together. And it's okay to be in the center of
your being. Nowhere, nothing to do, but be yourself. Ta-da! That's what I wrote down. Thanks for letting me share.
Yo, I wasn't expecting the ta-da! Hey, but that's like exploring that childlike quality, right?
Like that, you know, the inner child, like, yeah, man, just stuff like that, I feel like
just goes a long way. That made me feel happy. You know what I mean? So yeah, thank yeah, man, just stuff like that, I feel like just goes a long way. That made me feel
happy. You know what I mean? So yeah, thank you, man. I appreciate that. You know, I want to read
something that I saw. I won't read any poem because honestly, I think Donika killed it and
Del's poem too. And yeah, I don't really need to share mine. I'll share it in another space. But I
saw this image yesterday and I think it kind of ties to the topic. So I don't really need to share mine. I'll share it in another space. But I saw this image yesterday, and I think it kind of ties to the topic.
So I don't know what you guys' thoughts might be.
But you are not a machine.
You are a soul who needs music, connection, sunsets, laughter, and small pockets of joy.
Prioritize them like your life depends on it because it does.
Life isn't meant to be a cycle of stress and survival.
Pause, look up, let the
sunset remind you. You're here to live, not just to hustle. Life is not a to-do list. It's a gift.
Walk slower, hug longer, laugh louder, love deeper. The clock may be ticking, but your presence is
timeless. We've been conditioned to believe that constant productivity equals worth, but humans weren't designed for endless output. We need moments of wonder,
connection, and rest, not as rewards for hard work, but as essential ingredients for a meaningful
life. So yeah, yeah, I thought that to be very, very interesting. And as I was reflecting upon
this topic, I was like, yeah, man, I definitely want to at least share that in the space so yeah what are you guys's thoughts aj
able to come up yeah go ahead monica i would love if aj come, yeah, because he's so amazing too. I like his soul is in fire when he speaks. So AJ, you go. I'll honor you and after I can talk.
Hello, AJ. Welcome to the space. Take the mic and share with us. Look like he's his mic is not working.
Yeah, AJ, we can't hear you, man.
You want to get off the app completely
and then come back and then we'll get
you right back up? Because I think
sometimes that's usually the case.
But we definitely want to hear from you, man.
And Mela, you're welcome to
close us out. I know people had asked
for you to sing, but no worries as well later on.
But yeah, AJ, definitely come through, bro.
I'm not closing the space until you come back and speak.
So yeah, I mean, Donika, if you want to chime in on what you wanted to share in the meantime.
Yes, what you were reading, it was so beautiful because it reminds me that our emotions, our feelings, seasons, you know, we change, we evolve, we plant the seeds. With time, don't grow. But maybe they will come next season.
But as long as we nurture, we use the fertilizer, we give what they need, they will grow.
And some need the rest.
More rest than others. Just like our spiritual journey has phases.
It's like our spiritual journey has phases.
Sometimes we flourish.
Another time we need stillness and reflection.
What is working for me?
What is not working?
So when we know we can nurture more,
we can give more attention to the one that are not flourishing,
to that part of life that is not flourishing,
because it comes with a reflection.
And for harvesting to come, you know, we need to do our job.
And when we do the job right, what happens?
The growth, and we cannot stop the growth.
But every time you feel that, you know i'm not growing i'm stuck
oh my god i'm going like hamster in will no then some faces need more time and more than you invest You know then will come, the results will come, will show up.
Just trust the timing.
Trust the timing. You can't pressure anything because with time, we are growing and we understand more.
And wisdom is not in five-year-old kids.
They have to go through so much.
Oh, he's like a, or she's like an old soul.
But they don't understand.
So when you go through all the stages and phases
and you have that compassion and understanding and forgiveness
and you know more and you release that pure aim
and your aura extends so much, you know why? Because you release that pure aim.
And your aura extends so much.
You know why?
Because you are happy with yourself.
You are happy with the process.
You don't compare yourself with anybody.
You just reflect every single day and say,
I'm okay where I am.
I can get better.
So know that you are all and complete.
And whatever action you take today, reflect on them.
Don't do it to please others, because that is a wrongdoing.
Do it for yourself.
Thank you, Donika.
And you know, I think there was a phrase that mentions, I think, comparison is the thief of joy, if I'm correct.
And I think, yeah, I've had moments in my life too.
I've had to reflect upon that, you know,
not just like, let's say, with space hosting,
but just in general, like, how am I showing up?
And am I okay with the here and now, regardless of whatever?
And I think it's not just about comparing oneself to others, but comparing yourself to yourself, too.
And I think sometimes I can be a good thing, but sometimes I can be very dangerous.
So with what I'm hearing, with what you're saying, you know, the value and the importance of being content with where you're at,
but also know that you
might have different phases in life that you exhibit growth. And, you know, just trust the
perfect timing, you know, trust that it will come. But tying it back to what Mela said, you know,
you might be that close to being on the brink of success, whatever success is for you or whatever
it is that you're trying to achieve. But the minute you give up or the minute you display a lack of being content
with where you're at in the here and now,
then I think that can be very, very crippling if you're not aware to that.
So thank you, Donika, and I appreciate you reflecting back to the piece.
Maybe I'll post it on the Purple Peel so people can download.
Yeah, okay, you put in hundreds.
Yeah, I'll post it in the Purple Peel.
Let's go to AJ, man.
Thank you for being here, bro. How are you doing today your day my man what's going on uh it's non-stop by me all the time but uh man appreciate you appreciate you holding spots
hi donica hi everyone wise muse mella b in the house as is asriel's in the house i know enoch
was here before i left but um but you brought up something great
press press like what what is success to us like what do you think success is
because that's a good question oh man you putting me on the spot
nah man i'm gonna cop out it and just you know steal the melody playbook you know
shit mentioned and i also do believe this too. I think with everything, number one, it's going to be relative to that
individual, right? So what success might look like for me might be different for you and for others.
And again, like what's the philosophical, the perceptual filters that we're putting on success
or failure. And that's what Melody kind of chimed in on. I think for me, success,
at least with my own subjective experience,
just me as me,
I think trying,
just the act of trying and pushing forward,
regardless of anticipation of outcome, right?
Whether an outcome might be bad or good,
I think just continue to
push forward. And that's something I've had to literally like, keep on like reflecting for
myself. Like, sometimes I feel like I am making incremental changes in my life, you know, like
with school and like with, you know, trying to focus on music and, you know, being around likes
of Melody and, you know, other people are like, dang, man, that's, you know, these people are motivators. You're a motivator, AJ.
So, and, you know, we talked about the external piece and how that can perhaps catapult us when
sometimes we're not able to exhibit our own natural rhythm of action and reflection, let alone how it
pertains to success. So I think for me, just taking action steps, you know, being patient with the process,
I think, and honoring what you've achieved, whatever achievements might look like for you,
you know, and it doesn't have to be achievements from a societal standard. It could be something
as spirituality, knowing that I've grown closer to source. That could be a form of success,
right? So there's so many layers to that, but I hope I'm answering your question, AJ.
Yeah, that's the question I had.
I really thought success was that work
as you can't open a business in 20 years as possible.
But I started to realize like,
oh, shit, you can't put it.
Yeah, I can't. I started to realize I thought you were trying to put it. Yeah, I had to.
I thought I had to.
I had to.
Oh, no.
He's rugged.
He's rugged.
Oh, no.
As usual.
Yeah, AJ, what's up?
Mic check one, two.
Oh, no. All right, AJ, you're going you're gonna have to recycle bro i definitely want you to uh land your plane but mella you came up on stage what's up
yeah i just uh well first i heard my name and i was like oh hi hello i'm just getting ready for
this competition so i've been listening in the background and didn't want to take up room on the stage if I couldn't speak, but then you guys brought up the
concept of success, and I've been kind of thinking about it since we've been having this conversation.
And like I said before, I think it's a very philosophical question, and everybody probably has their own interpretation of it but if success
has no end point and stretches on eternally then in my opinion it can't just be like a destination
it has to be something else completely um because I don't think it's like a box that you check off
I don't think that that's true because you're then what what happens when you check that box
are you now just like void is every action just like do I don't know like I just don't think that
success is a box that you check off I think that it's like a way of being um and yeah I guess that
sounds kind of corny but like when when success eternal, it's how you show up every day.
It's how aligned you are with what matters to you.
It's how you like choose.
It's the choices you make.
It's how you choose to live in your truth regardless of the outcome.
So I think actually success is completely independent of the outcomes.
Whatever the outcome is doesn't really matter because you are currently, if you are choosing to pursue what it is that you love,
if you're choosing to pursue something that excites you and you are on that path and you choose that thing every day,
that to me is like its own level of success um and then
it kind of like becomes reframed right we were talking about framing things earlier
um so then like success becomes reframed from being something that you achieve to something that you embody.
And it just becomes like a part of your being.
And I think that there's like a lot of peace that comes with seeing success that way.
Because then you kind of like return to your power of choice.
And like I said, like if you're waking up and you're choosing yourself every
single day and choosing to do what you love every single day, and you go to bed happy,
knowing that you worked towards that, then I think that that is success. I think if you can
go to sleep happy and fulfilled and feeling like you accomplished something on your path
that aligns with you.
I think that you are successful.
Especially because of the fact that you don't know if you even have tomorrow.
Like you don't know if you're going to wake up every day.
Life can end in a split second.
You really just don't know.
So if success is a destination and you don't get tomorrow.
Then that would be like a really grim way of seeing life. I think that there's people that maybe, um, maybe there's certain boxes that
they haven't checked off that were on their list of things that they might have deemed to be like
successful in their eyes, but I don't think that they're any less successful if they
don't get the opportunity to check those boxes off I think if they were living in their truth
and they were aligned with that that journey then yeah I think they are successful
thank you Mela I want to read Donika's comment that she put. She said, success is a journey, walked at your own pace, living in joy, gratitude and grace.
And, you know, I think it does tie back to what you're saying.
You know, there's a difference between the path versus the destination.
And it did make me just reflect in the moment now, like, yeah, how many times do I think about the destination?
do I think about the destination? And, you know, if tomorrow is not promised, you know,
I think it is important to reframe what success looks like. And AJ, again, I think answering your
question, now I'm thinking about it, bro, even though I might have some of these anchors, right,
for myself, and even some of the things that Melody was saying I can resonate with,
I think based on the lack of destination and being on the path or being on
the journey, I think that's just going to be an ongoing, revolving thing for me in terms of
defining what success is, just like how our pathways are always going to be an ongoing,
evolving journey too. So yeah, maybe I don't know what success truly looks like for me. And that's
probably the most
honest answer i can give you know just hearing about just what melo just shared and donica's
comment as well just tying the two together so yeah man aj you here man you're good yeah i
apologize guys i ruin every space doing this i don't know what happens but um yeah these are
just great and questions uh and answers, actually.
Yeah, really, you guys said the journey is the destination.
In my book, I write that.
That's secret number six.
The journey is the destination.
The path is the process.
The journey itself is the best part.
You have musicians like the band Queen.
I said this often.
I feel bad saying these stories because I know Mel and everybody heard this.
The press heard this. But you have the band Queen. They said this often. I feel bad saying these stories because I know Mel and everybody heard this and press heard this, but you know, you have the band Queen. They made their first album,
you know, it kind of like it did well, but not great, whatever the case is. Then they went to
the second album. Then on their third album, it was like all or nothing. And they wound up having
tremendous success. However, the best part of their journey was looking back at those first albums when they
were struggling so hard and they were working and they were trying to figure it out. And I think
there's something to that. And I know Mella said something about fulfillment. You know, the older
I get, I feel like success is fulfillment. I think it's success could be the wrong word, like
fulfillment, being okay with your journey and where you are and knowing you're in the right place at the right time, you know, but there is one element that I'm a little stuck on.
And that's the idea of actual greatness and really getting to the upper ends of success.
That is, you know how people have mantras like, Oh, I am, I am splendid. I am great. You know,
I am this, I am that real greatness. Isn't that greatness is,
I will not be denied. That's the mantra. I will not be denied. I will not be denied.
That's greatness. So I don't know. I'm just throwing that stuff out there, but yeah,
love you guys land. Love you, bro. And, uh, Hey, I definitely want to tap in with you later, man.
I need to have that convoy. So just text me when you're free and then
we'll definitely have that conversation. But no, I appreciate that. Let's go to Donika and then
we'll go to, I'm pretty sure Mela wants to probably reflect back and then we'll go to Raul
and Meta and then we'll have closing thoughts from Wise and Donika again. Thank you guys for being
here. Yeah, I'm just, I love what Mela said and AJ it is about journey and I want to put the motherhood
I always wanted to be a mother but oh my god I read so many books when I was pregnant
and I thought that I'm going to be the best mother because I already know everything from the books but when you become mother oh my god need patience
you are up baby cry and all of that you have a husband you have a family you have other duty
and is nothing in the book you need to be in the journey you need to to see how is it and you know
parents when they have a second child it know. Parents when they have a second child.
It gets easier.
And when they have the third child.
Oh much easier.
They know how to do it.
But it's all about the journey.
Because it gets easier.
And this is how we gain the lessons.
The wisdom.
And we become better to help others.
So nothing in this world happened by accident. It is part of the
journey. And everybody's journey is different. This is why we all can say, I'm a big brother,
big sister, I'm a mother, I'm a teacher. But guess what? You have your own experience. How I teach,
you don't. Because it's personal.
So it's a personal journey.
But it's very good to share.
Because when we share, we intertwine the story.
So if it's a missing piece of puzzle somewhere, it's going to fit in.
Because you're sharing that missing puzzle.
So keep sharing and don't be shy too.
Thank you. Thank you, Donica. you sharing that missing puzzle so keep sharing and don't be shy too thank you thank you donica let's go to mala and then roll and then meta cool yeah it's it's so true right
when you like if you fixate on what success is then you almost you end up more lost sometimes
i like that example of motherhood like i'm a mom, but I can see myself being that way. Um, like reading all the books and like learning everything I could possibly
learn. And then I could see myself just being like, shit, this doesn't apply. My kid's got
some weird stuff about them, but, uh, yeah, I can see that happening. Um, so I wanted to cut,
I know we're going to close out soon, so I apologize for bringing this up but I kind of wanted to bring your time go ahead okay okay so I
wanted to bring in the concept of money because I think you know when people
think of success they think of money so kind of what I was saying before it was
like if success is eternal if it's a way of being and
becoming, then in my opinion, I think money just becomes a tool. It's not a scoreboard.
But like in the real world, especially as like an artist myself, it's not really that simple,
right? Because money is like a means to an end or a means to pursue what it is that you love to do what what brings
you that excitement so in my opinion money isn't success itself you could be the richest person on
the planet and still be absolutely miserable um and there's there's people like that like we know
that um but the thing is it does allow you to keep showing up to your purpose, right?
Like, it buys you time, space, in my case, instruments, studio, hours, the ability to rest, right?
Like, we don't even think about that.
Like, rest is productive because you need to reset yourself.
because you need to reset yourself.
So yeah, because money can buy you those things,
it can almost like provide you the freedom
to live in your truth and to live in your alignment.
It's just sort of like a man-made part of the process.
But then it does kind of help you sustain that eternal pursuit which like that
pursuit is success so if you have the means to be able to attain the ability to pursue what it is
you love to do then then you're good um so i see it as like a way to fuel almost like fuel for the
mission right like if you thought about like a car,
you're not going to, well, like the gas helps the car move, right? The car wouldn't work without
the gas. I kind of think of it that way. But there's a bit of a trap there because when money
becomes the metric, like it's measurable, right? That's why the concept of success is so hard to figure out and to discuss because there's
this measurable thing that's so deeply intertwined in all of our versions of success and that's
money.
So it becomes really tempting to define our value based on money.
attempting to define our value based on money. But if you start chasing money instead of,
you know, depth, then you're kind of losing the whole point, right? So yeah, I just kind of wanted
to bring that up. I think money is a byproduct of resonance. I think that the goal isn't to get rich,
it's to create something so authentic and real that
people want to support it. And then that support allows you to just keep creating something real
and to be living in your authenticity. So yeah, it's kind of like an amplifier,
not an instrument. It's an amplifier.
Nah, yeah, those are dope thoughts, Miller. It's not an instrument, it's an amplifier. Nah, yeah, those are dope thoughts, Mela.
It's not an instrument, it's an amplifier.
You know, money can maybe perhaps, you know, contribute to you having a purposeful lifestyle.
However, it doesn't necessarily equate to success because not everybody that has money is fulfilled, right?
And if we're saying fulfillment
is a huge part of success, then yeah, I think it is important to, you know, add that to the
conversation as well. So thank you for sharing that. Let's go to Raul and then Meta. And guys,
I mean, I'm not like that, that pressed on a hard stop. I'm just, you know, trying to honor
everybody's time as well. I see Krista's here. Shannon is here
as well. Breaker.
Inokin is here. Nola, Dev
and Treatu. Thank you guys for supporting.
But yeah, man, after these hands
we'll probably have our closing
thoughts from everybody on the panel
and our co-hosts. And then yeah.
Raul, go ahead.
Actually, I just wanted to share something
like I usually read about
a lot of people uh from asian times to now if you see for example you know it's an amazing perception
like how um you know we as individual we know about the problems we are facing whether we are
whether we are happy or not but from others point of view they see you either
successful or not successful for example we see billionaires as like successful people but if you
look at closely they have so many problems they are very unhappy from their life they are always
stressed some of them may be happy but they they will be having some unique problems that we can't even think about you know and i i have
read about so many kings like uh they were always uh uh they were always uh anxious stressed about
taking others kingdom for example uh for example alexander if you have heard about alexander name
he when he was uh entering in indian region back in that time He met a lot of yogis at the time. So
he was a bit conscious person also. So he used to talk to them. And one of the yogi
said to him that you are simply wasting your time. You tried to acquire this kingdom, then
your previous kingdom get into problem, then you need to go and fix that. You are just
wondering, you know, you are simply wasting your time.
And he kind of thought about that.
But eventually, when he died, he literally mentioned that,
I feel that I actually wasted my time in just fighting wars and taking over the kingdom.
I didn't enjoy my life.
But for people, for historians, they see Alexander the Great, he was a successful person.
For people, for historians, they see Alexander the Great, he was a successful person, but his own words, his own story, if you see their own opinion, their mindset, it's different.
Similarly, you can see with so many other kings.
So eventually, when it comes to successful, what others see, it's totally useless.
totally useless you know it's just what's in your heart you may not be having uh millions of dollars
It's just what's in your heart.
but you might be the most happiest person on this planet and you you probably leave this planet with
joy with a with a with a peace in your mind you know and there is a very beautiful sanskrit verse
i have read which says that the state of your mind at the time of death decide what's gonna be your next
journey let's say if you are a billionaire and your state of mind is you know terrible you are
just stressed you are just unhappy with your life most likely you will your next journey will be
downwards not as a billionaire for sure now at the same time you might be very most happiest
person on this planet you your mental pieces like
you know i'm happy whatever i have your journey is most likely is going to be upward in your next
life you know so the state of mind decide what's what what do you really want and where do you
want to go whether upward or downward in consciousness so eventually success as you know obviously it's individual you know
some people might see it as money as a success but trust me when they get money they realize that
it's not success so eventually on the on the global level on the surface on the deep level
we all have you know we all want to be happy eventually you know whether it's through money
whether it's through power fame eventually we want to be happy.
And sooner or later we find out that it lies in satisfaction.
Thank you, Raul.
Appreciate that.
Let's go to Meta.
Success. Yeah, I kind of, I boiled it down, wrote it down. And it's interesting because you've all sort of orbited the same thought that I had. And it goes like this. Success is being orbitally centered in your now as we change.
And that's whether you're five, you're 50, 105.
Centered in your now in the flow of I am.
So we mentioned earlier, I don't know, Prez.
And that is a good place to be in the I don't know. And then back to the poem I read earlier, anyway, and I wrote down, I am flows anyway. Let go and let God.
Centered in what you said earlier, Raul, which is centered in your heart, orbitally, in your now.
Because everybody's now is different.
And you know when you're not in your now.
Or you understand.
Sorry, I didn't use the word know.
I don't like using that word often.
I would rather use understanding.
And then you understand your flow in the I am.
So it's an ongoing thing cultivating that centeredness.
You know, sometimes we wake up and we're off.
And what is this that's taking us this way or that way?
And we focus on that.
But if we focus on our centeredness in our present moment,
we are there to observe and observe our being,
our orbital being as we flow through
and as we shift and change. And I'll land it there.
Thank you for letting me share, Perez. Some wonderful speakers. Thank you all for speaking
and all the listeners as well. Thank you. praise do you want to say something mark very good share i always love your poems i love your
share but i don't know where praise is.
Oh, sorry, y'all.
I got bumped out. Oh, I was like, I can't be rugged.
This can't be me.
I got bumped out, man.
I was like, what the heck?
It's okay.
This is why you need the co-host.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Okay, so Tamara, I see you down there.
We're probably going to close.
Who else came up?
If you can keep it very, very, very short, Alien Light, I saw your request too, brother.
I definitely want you to come up and speak, but, you know, we are going to be closing.
So let's see.
I'll send you the invite, man.
I want to honor you as well.
But AJ, do you want to quickly chime in on the what raul had said before and meta thank
you for sharing oh man i missed a little bit but joe bravo was talking about alexander yeah
you went to india yeah man and they had these yogis that they weren't moving the brahmins they
weren't moving from the path and the army's like you're not going to move for alexander
like we won't move for anybody and then they're're like, what are you talking? And then Alexander went to meet him.
And he, and he tried to, he's like, why won't you move? And Calenius, I think his name was
something along the lines of that said, well, we feel no need to conquer the world. We conquered
ourselves. And Alexander loved that and said, if wasn't alexander i would want to be you
calenius or whatever his name was but uh i love that man automatic follow that made my day
no that's awesome thank you i just appreciate that mr mic drop yeah guys you know let me let
me try and recap some of the stuff that, you know, we heard today.
You know, it was really, really, thank you guys, first and foremost.
Thank you to everybody that came up and shared.
I want to start off with Ani and Kevin and how they supported the space.
Ani being our co-host.
Wise as well.
Wise has picked her moments, man.
And every time she spoke, you know, it was very, very powerful as well. Donika, thank you as well for filling picked her moments man and every time she spoke you know it was very very
powerful as well donika thank you as well for filling in it wasn't planned you know and gracing
us with your presence your personal experiences and of course the poems mella as well man everything
you shared was very relevant and everybody in the space meta everybody that came through earlier on
krista i hope next time you can come through, man.
Definitely want to hear your thoughts.
You have a lot of wisdom.
Definitely appreciate that.
Enokin, I will be hitting you up soon, brother.
And yeah, everybody.
So Tamra, I see you.
You want to come up?
If you can keep it short, and then I will do my recap,
and then we'll do final closing thoughts from the panel.
And then, yeah, I think we should be good to go.
What's up, Tamara? Tamara? Miss Sweeney? No, I'm here. I'm here. Sorry, I was looking
back through my notes a little bit, you know i appreciate this channel because and you're
inspiring others to recognize their own strength i was sort of looking into the the um the natural
rhythm and action of reflection uh i was trying to understand it myself so i was looking into the
google aspects of it you know and i just wanted to share what they share.
Attraction involves a complex interplay of physical, emotional, and chemical factors,
including sharing interests and proximity, which can create a strong connection between individuals.
Reflection, on the other hand, is the practice of evaluating experiences and emotions,
allowing for personal growth and deeper understanding and relationships. I really feel that, you know, we're stepping into relationships
via Twitter or other social media aspects. And I also believe that, you know, we need to inspire
others to recognize their own strength, right? A lot of us are stepping into lack right
now, going through the politics and everything else. But I think that we need to believe in
ourselves a little bit more, because I think that we have so much potentiality within self,
that when we step into our own strength, we create the narrative we want to shift into.
So it's sort of letting go of all those fear-based paradigms and stepping
into our strength, you know, believing ourselves so much, you know, Yeshua, the Ascended Masters,
they did it, that's a little woo-woo, but we all have that potentiality within ourselves. So
I am guided to people who are inspiring others to recognize their own strength because i think that
is a potentiality of self-awareness and believing in ourselves so much that we can create change so
i i would just suggest everyone step out of the fear believing yourself and you know what if you
die tomorrow so freaking be it who are you in this now moment and thank you wow aj man you see how tamra talk today man she kept a short nice sweet and concise i appreciate
that tamra and yeah you know some of the things that you shared um were definitely echoed in this
space in terms of externalities the inspirations that we have, right? And yeah, trying to not live in fear because
that can definitely dysregulate us as well. So thank you for sharing. Appreciate you being here.
And yeah, guys, let me try and recap some of the stuff that we've heard today, right? So some of
the things that came about were connecting, lack of preparation and misalignment may lead to failure, right? Being
less afraid of failure, especially when reflecting. You have to be able to pivot when you've made
mistakes or when you know that you're wrong. We talked about having a negative mentality and the
importance of growth mindset, right? So being open to feedback, not just from others, but also what
you tell yourself. I'd asked Mella early on about success,
and she mentioned discipline and the power of letting in the demons a little bit, but also
not just feeling your negative feelings, but not just sitting through it. I just mentioned now,
external influences. Don't give up. It's not too late. How listening is a form of engagement,
procrastination. What's real will always be here,
and you're not your thoughts. Self-doubt and how speaking positive helps you and can also affect
your sphere of influence with others, but also recognizing toxic positivity. Donika mentioned
happy me, happy you, and the importance of being mindful, right, while exhibiting self-care and
wellness, right? Being a forever learner was mentioned in the space.
I'd ask Meta as well, what does high interdependence look like? And he bought the
cosmic, esoteric side of it as well. The importance of recognizing how we need stillness
and how that can be able to nurture other people that are around us, especially the people who
need our support, filling our cup essentially before we fill others' cups, right? And recognizing that
we won't be able to stop our growth the more we invest, no matter how slow these phases that
Darnika had mentioned, but we have to just trust the timing and the importance of contentment and
being in the here and now. Darnika also mentioned something that I thought was really, really nice to hear.
Your aura expands when you're happy with yourself.
Your aura expands when you're happy with yourself.
And I think that is a wonderful way
of just tying everything together.
So with that being said, guys, I am very, very grateful.
I am in the frequency of gratitude.
I can't express how grateful I am for everything
and everyone's share,
the people that came in and out. Shout out to my brother, Lepto Kinetic. He's one of the most
intellectual people I've met on this app. So tap in with him. He has a lot of knowledge,
a lot of wisdom. And all the people that came through to listen, Shannon, I see you.
Rachel, you were up here. You shared. You had the gentle nudge to share, right? So thank you, Ezreal. You've been here for a while.
Breaker, Inokin, that's my guy.
Nola, Tree2 as well.
Thank you, everybody, for sharing, supporting in however you want to do support.
And I know I'm going to do a lot of reflecting so I can keep on moving forward with my actions.
So with that being said, I want to go across the room, the panel you guys got any final thoughts and then we'll go back to our co-host
And then yeah, Mela
I know you're about to compete
But you're welcome to sing but no pressure because I know you're about to compete
So thank you for just honoring us with your presence. All right guys, let's go around the room whoever wants to share anything feel free
I'll be fast. I just want to share Mela has a single that just came came out. And I'll tell you what, she's building these networks on here.
And it's one of the most like virtuous ways to build, especially in the music industry.
So I'll stick it in the Jumbotron.
But, you know, listen to a single on SoundCloud, leave a review.
You know what I mean?
And just support her.
You support each other on here.
You wind up building a whole new world. And that's success if anything love you guys thank you AJ I appreciate
that definitely put uh Mella's stuff up there and AJ you got anything coming up in the near future
what's going on with you yo I got the best audiobook in the history of audiobooks coming
out right now written with the help of the number one ET channel
on this planet.
It's not only my book, but it's a whole other book of information with Bashar's top, top
material.
So, you know, it's really, it's interesting stuff because as we're doing this, the people
that assist me in writing this book, they're out winning championships, Stanley Cup championships.
They're going to World Seer.
It's crazy. You wouldn't even believe it. It's a very, it's crazy. It's awesome.
I'm seeing this in real time. So yeah, I'll let you guys know when that's coming out.
Maybe when we get the Philly guys against the New York guys, we'll get a mega rap battle.
I'll sponsor it. You know, we'll do it like that. How about that?
AJ, we need that phone call, man. Right after this space. I'll call you right after this space.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, that would be awesome, man.
And, you know, you always uplift and support others, man.
And I definitely want you to get your flowers too, bro.
However, we can support you in your own way.
You know, I know I'm definitely there.
So, yeah, man.
And, yo, guys, follow AJ.
You know, what's it called?
Toggle the notification bell. I don't know what people say. But, yeah, stay tuned, man. And yo, guys, follow AJ, you know, what's it called? Toggle the notification bell. I don't know what people say. But yeah, stay tuned, man. Stay tuned. Okay, let's see. Who else wants to go? Mela, you want to go? You good? often reluctant so I really do appreciate it um yeah it's been an incredible space we've talked
about a lot of really incredible topics and stuff that I know I'm going to reflect on and I hope
everybody else does the same um what do I want to close with here I think what I want to close with is, um, sorry, I'm mixing up mac and cheese.
So if you guys can hear that, it's mac and cheese. Okay. Um, I think what I want to close
with is like being okay with the unknown is like a beautiful thing. We talked about this and,
you know, we don't always know what our
version of success is going to look like. Maybe down the road, something might completely change
and your eyes might completely open to something new that you didn't even consider. So always be
open to pivoting and changing perspectives because I know I'm, I'm much different than I was, you know, even two
years ago and I'm doing things differently. So yeah, just being open and reflecting in a,
in an open mindset, I think is really important. Thank you, Mella. I appreciate that. And good
luck today. Go kill it, man. Get, man, listen, if you win, we win. So, you know what I mean?
And yeah, feel free to share some of that money too you know i mean like i'm not gonna i will oh my gosh
you know what i'm i'm nervous but i'm not at the same time because i did a lot of competitions when
i was a kid so this is kind of just like part of who i am it's what i do um but whatever happens
i'll be happy with it.
It's going to be a learning experience regardless.
I get to meet a bunch of other musicians in my community that I've never met before.
There's like 16 of us.
So the way I see it, I'm about to make like 15 friends.
So that's a win in my eyes.
I'm winning.
No, that's awesome.
And you know, tying back to what AJ had said early on, Mela, I kind
of planted the seeds based on our conversation yesterday. You know, I talked to the head arch
of the Batarap group that I'm affiliated with. So whenever you're ready and you're ready to step
outside, you know, we'll have that conversation. So just want to let you know that, just keep that
in the back of the mind. Oh guys, before we go to the rest of the panel too, I just want to let you know that. Just keep that in the back of the mind. Oh, guys, before we go to the rest of the panel, too, I just want to announce this as well, because this was my intention as well for this space.
based on ABA, Autism and Awareness.
ABA stands for Applied Behavioral Analysis,
which is a behavioral approach that's used,
especially with kids on the spectrum.
And I'll be having a guest, a good friend of mine.
You know, she's actually a homegirl of mine,
but obviously on this space, I'm gonna be professional
and call a doctor this, doctor that.
But she's really my homegirl.
I worked with her as a behavior practitioner alongside her.
Her expertise and her knowledge is phenomenal. But for me, what drew me to her is how heart-centered
she is. So I want to invite her to meet us, the ex-people. She's spoken on panels before.
So hopefully you guys can tap into that space. And she's also worked with a lot of diverse,
different communities as well. So I just want to announce that I won't go into super details yet in terms of like everyone that's going to be involved and stuff like that, because I want to iron out the kinks.
But yeah, man, this will be my last space until then.
So you'll probably just see me as a speaker or as a listener or if I'm invited to co-host, you know, I'm always willing to do that as well.
But yeah, man, that space is probably going to be one of my most important spaces to date, I feel, in relation to humanity.
So if you guys got family members or friends who might be interested in the topic, just keep that in the loop as well.
So yeah, with that being said, Mera, Raul, you guys got any final closing thoughts?
Yeah, actually, it was really an interesting space to come and today, you know, we discussed
really beautiful, deep topics, like it literally acted as like a self reflection, you know,
talking about success, satisfaction.
And like, even with Donika, we discussed so much like the problems revolving around these days,
especially with Gen Generation. So that was really interesting. Thanks to Melabi because
because of Melabi, I could see this space going on. She was the connecting point for here. And
congratulations to Melabi for her events. I actually came to see her profile also recently and i saw her singing it's really
beautiful uh and uh and anyone who is interested in you know health this space so uh i'm actually
you know writing a lot on these topics so if you would like to read you know uh you can connect
with me also and you know yeah it's uh it was really a beautiful space and uh you know, you can connect with me also. And, you know, yeah, it's, it was really a
beautiful space and, you know, very excited to join next time also.
Thank you, Ro. I'm glad Mello is a connection point there. And yeah, I just gave you a follow,
brother. So hopefully you can come back, not just with my spaces, but all these people here,
you know, they're hosts in their own right. Donika hosts wonderful spaces as well. So
tap into, you know, her space. Yeah, I definitely felt the connection there when you guys were going
back and forth. So definitely tap into her spaces as well. Meta, you got anything for us?
Absolutely. One, I would like to thank you for holding the space. I think it was a wonderful
space. I love the recap as well. It was wonderful to hear all the different insights that you kept notes on,
which was really refreshing for those that didn't get to hear the earlier part of your space.
But yeah, I'd like to leave everyone with a couple words.
Keep cultivating and honoring your authentic being.
Keep understanding the difference between being and doing.
And I look at it from a reinterpretation of the art of living or surviving.
Art of living is your being.
Surviving is the doing.
And you are not the maps.
You are the territory.
Don't ever forget that.
And keep celebrating your life.
Because, you know, no matter what it is that you're doing, that is not your
true essence, but you can, you can celebrate that, but it, at the core of it, find that center within
your now of your being. I think that that's what we're looking for and learning to remember, to
remember that at your center. Thank you for having me up as a speaker. As always, Prez, I love
connecting with you and look forward to the next spaces. Take care, everyone. Thank you, Metta. Connecting with the center of your now
and within your being. I know I butchered that, but thank you, Metta. I appreciate that, man.
Talk about reflection, man. Metta always makes me reflect every single time, every time he shares.
So appreciate you always supporting, man. And kind of like you've always told me reflect every single time, every time he shares. So appreciate you always supporting,
man. And kind of like you've always told me, man, just being able to be interdependent as part of
a collective while honoring our individuality and our individual experiences as we come together as
well. So I appreciate that. Wise, wise, wise. Miss Wise Muse. What's up, man?
You've been chilling.
You know, you picked your moments.
Are you here?
Are you good?
Are you in another space?
Wise, are you here?
I hope you're here.
I'm not in no damn other space.
I've been here the whole time.
I'm just quiet.
I'm very, like, I listen to everything I care about.
Like, you know, I care about the listeners.
Nah, I know, man.
I'm just messing.
Any final thoughts from your end?
What are you thinking?
And then we'll go to Donica.
Come on, Wise.
Come on, Wise.
You got to give us final thoughts.
What am I supposed to say?
This is a beautiful space.
I love it.
Everybody came up and they channeled something beautiful.
Like, you know, I just be part of the community.
I'll be listening.
I'll be, you know, if I like the speakers, I'm going to send them, you know, that follow.
Nah, yeah, I appreciate that, you know.
Nah, we had to get your final thoughts.
I get, you know, being quiet and stuff.
But, you know, kind of like what someone had said earlier on.
I had to give you that gentle nudge, man. You're up here, your co-host, and, you know,
I do respect every time you do share. I really do, so I just want to highlight that, but I
appreciate you just wanting to be in listening mode, so I want to honor that, too. Donica,
you got any final thoughts for us? I do. Priz, thank you so much for hosting these spaces.
It takes a lot for me i've been like
almost four years hosting every monday spaces and it takes a lot of time and energy and you know to
please everybody to check everybody but you're doing a great job fantastic wisdom thank you so
much for co-hosting and man i feel you Sometimes I just want to listen and not talking at all and inhale,
but it was pleasure co-hosting with you.
Mela, good luck with your competition.
You're going to do it.
Don't be afraid.
Those 10 friends can multiply in 100 friends.
Go with your heart.
Share what is inside you.
Remember why you created that song, who you want to deliver.
And all the angels and God are behind you.
They put you in that platform to connect with people that have the same story like you.
You're going to do fantastic.
AJ, my goodness, you know I like you.
I like when you share.
Good luck with your book.
I would love to have a copy of that.
Mine is about to come.
One with poetry and one with books.
But I love how you, you know, support Mila and talk about the space and everything.
It's like no being selfish in there, but being selfless, but kind to others and uplifting others.
It's beautiful.
To my co-host and my good friend, Meta.
Mark, you are amazing.
And I always think that we are just extension of threads, you know.
You can make a scarf.
You can make a sweatshirt.
It's going to be a hole if the thread is not there, you know.
We skip one of them so let's
continue to hold each other's hand to hold each other accountable and lift each other up because
it is amazing rahul my goodness i know how old are you honey but you are old soul and you're just
really so curious and you have created that fountain of knowledge you are like
the water in the fountain that always goes and goes in flow like you cannot stop it's like
like the guides talking to you and you want to share i love that
for everybody dale thank you for sharing your poem and And I'm going close with this from my side, you know.
I think I'm the oldest one in here.
I'm not saying my age, but teaching 35 years, do the math.
So it is very important for us as a human being, as a soul in here, to grow and transform.
But growth requires reflection and action.
We can take action, but if we fail when we take action,
reflect with compassion, without judgment.
So reflection without action is stagnation.
Action without reflection is chaos.
So we need that framework.
We need that schedule.
What am I going to do?
But when reflection and action work together,
they create a transformation.
That garden is going to grow, is going to transform
because we are nurturing.
We are just giving what is necessary, just like our
mind. When we give good thoughts, positivity, you know, we do that, you know, meditation and we do
journaling and we release and forgive, it is beautiful. So each day is a new beginning to start over. And your future is today, is now.
So at the end of the day, release open space in your mind to refill.
Because for eight hours, six hours, you go sleep.
We need to have room for new information to come.
So with the negative one to be replaced with something positive.
So that mindfulness, a reflection, it help us to learn. Mindfulness, action, it help us to lead.
And when they combine together, consciously, we create new chapter. Something new is going to grow and my quote for today I can share with you is
is mine
let your reflection be the compass
in your action
the journey toward the truth
reflect with intention
act with purpose
that's how you turn
awareness into
transformation
thank you and have a blessed day.
Thank you so much.
Raul, did you want to reflect quickly back to her?
Just one thing, Donika.
You know, we all are energies, you know, we have no age.
But yeah, the age of my physical body is 31 but i have stopped
looking at age now because i feel that we are immortals you know playing in this universe
which is material actually you know it comes and goes but we stay always you want to play
with different different roles today you are donika next time i could be donika you know. We are just going different, different bodies and, you know, enjoy this game
because we love playing. So, that's the thing, you know. And I'm really happy that I came into
this space, met so many beautiful people. Thanks to Melavi, you know, I literally owe you.
beautiful people. Thanks to Melabi, you know, I literally owe you.
Man, I just want to add, just hearing Raul speak, I already know AJ is going to be tapped in. Like,
the stuff that you're sharing, like, I just, that just sounds like AJ's talk right there,
you know what I mean? So, no, thank you, Mel, you know, for the connection, you know, Raul,
I'm glad that you stumbled upon this space. And yeah, man, feel free to connect with whoever you know you resonate with as well.
So much appreciated, brother.
Much appreciated.
Guys, I think we're going to close out.
You know, usually I have music at the end, but, you know, I think I'll just.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm like literally like putting makeup on and getting ready so that way I can just head out.
So I'm so sorry.
No, no, no, you're good. I mean, yeah, once I realized you're at the competition, I was like,
oh yeah, I forgot about that. She did mention that yesterday. So now that is a priority. You know,
you, man, you sing in a bunch of spaces. So, you know, nah, it's all good completely.
You know, guys, I want to close in two minutes because it'll be 4.44 my time, and I
want to close during an angel number. You know what I mean? I think that will be the best way
to do so. Wise, you got something to say? What's up? Okay. So I want to tell you guys something
that I was going through in the background of the space while y'all wasn't really listening,
but I accidentally deleted my website and then
I had to log back into my email and find my, oh my God, it was such a hassle. But, um, yeah,
that's what I was dealing with. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. I feel it. I feel it. That,
that explains a lot. It's fine now. It's fine now.
All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. I appreciate that. You cool with me though that you cool with me though you cool with me though
nah nah yeah i appreciate that yeah man you know tying it back to the topic of the space
the externalities man that can that can affect us and they can you know whatever but i think
when you're aware of it you know it's always good to acknowledge the things that might affect us in
terms of the external but again
kind of what Mela said earlier on don't sit with it
Mela what song are you singing
tonight
I know I'm going to sing
The Optimist and then I'm kind of torn
on what the second song is going to be
because I've got two
so if you have a
suggestion let me know oh it's gonna be hard for you man you got
yeah more to give i like that one too i mean it's hard it's hard to pick because i have
i have my favorites everyone else has their favorites. It's very difficult. So I honestly
might just go with my gut and go up there and then play whatever comes to whatever happens,
you know? Yeah, that intuition, man. For sure. I kind of also want to see what the vibe is. Like,
I want to go and like watch other people and like see what see what the vibe is. I want to go and watch other people and see what the vibe is.
Read the room.
100%.
Man, you stay focused.
Get your makeup on and shit.
And we'll be supporting you in spirit.
Okay?
You definitely, definitely will be thinking of you.
Ira, we want to keep it under 30 seconds.
And then we'll close.
I want to target that 4.44.
What's up?
Just wanted to say the energy of the space was so good that I was supposed to sleep one and a half hour ago.
It's 3.15 a.m. in India and I'm still up and I'm not feeling sleepy.
Man, I'm glad that this space could do that for you.
And shout out to how you contributed to the space, man.
It's been a mutual energy exchange.
So with that being said, I will close the space, man. It's been a mutual energy exchange. So with that being said,
I will close the space, guys. Thank y'all. Feel free to give me feedback, connect with me in the
DMs, and I'll catch y'all soon enough. Take care. Bye-bye.
