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Elon Musk Holds a Town Hall in Green Bay, Wisconsin
Recorded: March 31, 2025 Duration: 2:21:03Space Recording
Short Summary
Discussions highlight the importance of decentralization and blockchain technology in reducing corruption and improving transparency in government operations. The potential use of the Dogecoin blockchain for transparency and efficiency in government processes reflects significant innovations in the application of blockchain technology. Additionally, the mention of the 'doge movement' by Elon Musk and Donald Trump indicates emerging trends in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, welcome to Elon Musk's Green Bay Town Hall.
And thank you for signing the petition against activist judges.
I mean, this is all about getting out to vote on Tuesday to let Brad Schimmel
as the next justice of the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
It's so crucial we do that. I've been traveling around with Brad. By the way, I don't know,
and I see Governor Walker here, I know he was a tireless campaigner. I don't know of
any candidate that I've seen in my years now in the business
campaign more tirelessly than Brad Schimel. He's just been phenomenal. He's not doing
it for himself. He's doing it to save the court, to save Wisconsin, to save America.
Let's be honest.
So I've traveled around the bus in the last couple days, and then we do what they call press gaggles,
and then we go up and talk to the press,
and every question is about Elon, Elon, Elon, Elon.
Now, I don't know about you,
I think what Donald Trump and Elon Musk
do in terms of the doge movement is brilliant
i mean what what elon his group of geniuses is uncovering it should outrage every american
you know what what what the government has been spending and wasting our money on, that should be outrageous. Every American should be outraged by that, but the left isn't. Instead, they're
attacking Elon. They're firebonding his cars and his dealerships.
By the way, where's the outrage to that form of domestic terrorism?
So that's really what this is all about. We've got leftists that want to impose their ideology on us through the court system. Right?
They don't care who or what they destroy
in their quest for power.
We can't let that get away with it.
Now, 1.7 million
Wisconsinites voted for Donald Trump.
Right?
God bless you all for doing that.
If you want Donald Trump to be able to serve four years effectively God bless you all for doing that.
If you want Donald Trump to be able to serve four years effectively, do all the things
he's doing, and by the way, I can't believe how boldly and swiftly and decisively he's
acting to fulfill his campaign promises. But you'll notice, you'll notice the activist judges, the radical leftists, the super legislators
on the courts are issuing national injunctions against what he's trying to do.
What we wanted him to do, what the people elected him to do, we can't let that continue.
Now, what should happen is John Roberts ought to reign those judges in.
He ought to take care of his own branch of government.
But what we need to do here in Wisconsin is we need to return our Supreme Court to one that has justices and judges.
And by that I mean people who apply the law, not alter it. We're not looking
for super legislation. Again, it's a real disadvantage conservatives have is when I
vote to confirm a Supreme Court nominee, I know I'm not going to like some of their judgments
because they're ruling based on the law. I don't like some of the laws. The radical
left is they know exactly what their judges are going to do, and we know
exactly what Susan Crawford would do.
She will overturn Act 10.
Governor Walker's signature team has saved, what, billions for Wisconsin taxpayers.
She will redistrict.
She'll be part of the group that will redistrict Derek Van Orden and Brian Stiles' districts.
We may lose those
wonderful members of Congress, we may lose the majority of the House, and I do not want
to be sitting in a third impeachment trial of a president.
That's what we're facing.
So we cannot let that happen.
And again, the good news is we've got a person of integrity, Brad Schimel, working his tail off. He will be that kind of judge.
That will uphold the law and return the constitutional balance to Wisconsin and help save America. So that's what it's all about again. So every one of the 1.7 million Wisconsinites that voted for Donald Trump, you must come out and vote.
If you haven't already voted, come out and vote on Tuesday.
Talk to every friend and family member and neighbor that you know.
Every email contact, every text contact, get them all out to vote on Tuesday. There's no reason that we can't
have 1.3, 4, 5 million votes and easily win this election. So that's what you got to do.
Thanks for coming here tonight. Now, it's my pleasure to introduce a former congressman,
another one of our high integrity people who have represented us in Congress, and is now representing us in America as the Secretary of the Department
of Transportation, Sean Duffy.
Hey, everybody.
What an amazing crowd.
Are we not blessed to have a senator like Ron Johnson?
He's amazing. Also somewhere here, Congressman Tony Weed is in the house.
Tony, where are you? Right here. Scott Walker as well in the house. Tony, where are you? Right here. Oh, Scott Walker as well in the house.
Derek Van Orden I know is here too.
Our great delegation from Wisconsin.
We are blessed to have fighters like that in Washington, D.C.
Now, quick question for you.
Is Donald Trump making America great again?
Yes, he is.
Now, he does have a little bit of help from a guy by the name of Elon Musk.
That's true. Yeah. And I would argue he probably has one of the best cabinets ever in recent history. Maybe we're helping as well. I think all of us thought our government and the waste in our government, we thought it was bad.
But after Doge's work, we can't believe how bad it is.
This is horrible.
So think, Stacey Abrams raises a couple hundred dollars in her climate action fund,
raises a couple hundred dollars in her climate action fund,
and then Joe Biden gives her $2 billion for her climate fund.
Elon Musk found that there are 7 million Social Security folks on the rolls
folks on the rolls that are over 120 years old.
that are over 120 years old.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable. And I love
what Doge has found at USAID.
1.5 million to advance
DEI in Serbia. 2.5 million for EVs
in Vietnam. 32,000 for transgender
comic books in Vietnam. $32,000 for transgender comic books in Peru. $2 million sex changes and LGBTQ activism
in Guatemala. Your hard-earned tax money go into garbage like that. And so I never thought
the left could get more crazy than they actually have become.
But before this last election, they all wanted us to drive an EV.
They wanted to force us into an EV.
After the election, they're burning EVs.
How crazy is that?
And so I look at this and think, are you all sick of winning? No. If you're not sick of
winning, let's not stop winning. And if you don't want to stop winning, this Tuesday is how you do
it. This election couldn't be more important.
The country is watching what's going to happen in Wisconsin because you have a radical leftist judge
who wants to get rid of school choice. She wants to get rid of voter ID. She wants to redraw
congressional lines. She doesn't like parental rights. She wants to obstruct Donald Trump's
agenda. She's soft on crime. She doesn't believe in bail. And she believes that criminals are more
important than victims. Unacceptable in this great state. And we have Brad Schimmel, who believes
that the law should treat everyone the same.
Whether you're Republican or a Democrat,
he's a fair man who's going to impose the law
in a way that treats everyone equally,
which is what we want as conservatives.
And so what you all can do...
What you all... By the way, are you all going to vote or have you voted?
You guys all voted?
Okay.
You look like a pretty lively group, so I imagine all of you at least have five friends,
maybe ten.
Get your five or ten friends to the ballot box on Tuesday. And if all of you do that,
you get your friends to the ballot box because this is a low voter turnout election. Bring your
friends, bring your family, and if you all turn out on Tuesday with your friends, we are going to
win in Wisconsin and send a message to the radical left. Don't mess with Trump. Don't mess with Doge.
Don't mess with Elon. And don't mess with Wisconsin. Let's get it done, everybody. God bless. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Everybody!
Thanks for coming!
What do you think of my hat?
All right.
I'm going to sign the hat and I'm going to throw it out. All right.
All right.
I love you guys too.
So, well, thank you for coming out in support of this very important Supreme Court race in
Wisconsin.
It's actually something that I think, it's one of those things that may seem like it's
obviously important in the state of Wisconsin,
but I think it could actually be important for the country as well and maybe for the world.
So the House majority right now is razor thin.
majority right now is razor thin. It's really just a few seats. And if the Supreme Court
It's really just a few seats.
is able to redraw the districts, they will gerrymander the districts and deprive Wisconsin
of two House seats on the Republican side. Yeah, exactly. The result of that could be that the House switches to a Democratic House.
Yes, indeed.
And then they will try to stop all of the government reforms that we are doing.
And we're getting done for you, the American people.
So, the reforms that we're getting done in D.C., thanks to President Trump and his great
team, are really profound. Really, the goal is very simple.
It's to restore merit and freedom.
So that's what it comes down to.
So America is the land of freedom and opportunity.
So we want to restore individual freedoms, freedom of speech,
just in general, get the government off your back.
And then make sure that you succeed in the United States as a function of your hard work and your talent and nothing else.
So these are really noble and important principles.
And also, and I'll talk more about this all night really, as long as you guys want to
hear about it.
As you may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the doge.gov website and the doge handle on the X platform, there is a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government.
Like shocking, really.
It's insane.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really wild.
It's really wild.
So, like, I mean, it was inevitable that at least a few Soros operatives would be in the audience.
Give my regards to George.
Say hi to George for me.
Say hi to George from me.
USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.
USA, USA, USA.
I mean, it was inevitable.
I was waiting for that one.
So I mean, yeah, thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Yeah, I mean, isn't it shocking how much violence and hatred is coming from the left?
I mean, isn't it supposed to be the party, they claim to be the party of empathy, and yet they're burning
Teslas and shooting up dealerships and calling for the death of the president and me.
I'm like, guys, you know, this is insane.
Like, they're gone psycho.
I mean, it's really, like, I totally understand if somebody doesn't want to buy a product.
Yeah, it's up to you.
It's free country, you know, but you don't have to buy a product yeah it's up to you it's free country you know
but you don't have to burn it down
okay but much
that's somebody else's car leave it alone
thanks guys
yeah so
man the derangement level on the left is just like, it's blowing my mind, frankly.
I mean, I'm like, what is going on?
They've just lost it next level.
I'm like, it's like, whoa.
And I sort of wonder what's, you know, the legacy media is in part to blame for this
and maybe primarily to blame for this because you know it's really
terrible it's like if they keep calling you know they've called obviously called president trump
every name in the book you know there's one article that called the president worse than
hitler musselini and stalin combined i'm like uh actually president trump's not killed anyone in
fact he's very good at stopping wars, not starting them.
So, you know, we're really very different.
Maybe we need to add some more history lessons back in schools.
Because I don't know if people understand, you know, what the difference.
Do they know what Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin did?
It seems they don't.
I mean, it's just indicative of the poor quality of education pushed by the National
Department of Education.
So you know, that's why we want to restore freedom to the states, to let the states decide on the educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of neo-Marxists in D.C.
I mean, it is astounding how much anti-American propaganda is pushed on kids today in schools.
It's mind-blowing.
It's like, what the hell's going on?
So, anyway. But on a more positive note,
we have this petition against activist judges
because judges should be simply interpreting
the law, not making the law.
So, in appreciation for the support of people in signing this petition against activist
judges, we just want judges to be judges, which is a reasonable thing to ask for.
And we're obviously seeing some crazy stuff in D.C. where it seems like any federal judge can stop any action by the president of the United States. This is insane. Like, this has got to stop. It's got to stop at the federal
level and at the state level. But let me first hand out two $1 million checks in appreciation.
Okay, so the first check goes to Nicholas Jacobs.
Alright.
Now, I should say that the reason for the checks is that it's really just to get attention.
It's like we need to get attention, and somewhat inevitably, when I do these things,
it causes the legacy media to kind of lose their minds.
And then they'll run it on every news channel and I'm like I couldn't pay them to the it would cost like
10 times more or you know it's to get the kind of coverage that we get so All right. All right. Thank you for being welcome.
So, you got it?
Yeah!
All right.
All right.
You can just, I guess, take it. If you want.
We'll get, I think, we'll get you a real one, too.
So, and then the second one. I think we'll get you a real one too.
And then the second one, second one is to Ekaterina Diesler.
Let's see, hopefully here. So, well, and you know, like I said, this is just helpful for getting attention and
then like it's kind of fun to see the legacy media lose their minds over it too.
So, love you too.
So, Yeah.
Let's see.
Hello.
Congratulations.
All right.
All right. Congratulations.
So. All right, congratulations. All right, so we're also going to be announcing,
we are announcing now, a program,
sort of a get out the vote program.
The webpage should be going live,
I think around now,
which is at the America PAC website,
or just go to the America PAC X account.
And the single biggest challenge, I think,
is actually just making people aware
that there is this very important election.
And there's both the very important election for Judge Schimmel
as well as deciding on adding voter ID
to the Wisconsin Constitution,
which is very, very important.
So...
It's really quite shocking that... I mean, you can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening
where they ban ID, you know?
Like, why would you ban ID?
Like, in New York and California, it's, like, illegal to show ID at an election.
Well, why would—I can't imagine why that would be the case.
So two really important things is really just ensure judicial integrity on Tuesday and then
the voter ID thing. And it's April Fool's Day. And, I think most people aren't aware that there is this important election.
Most people don't even know that there's an election at all.
And, or if they do, they aren't sure exactly when and where it is.
And they aren't sure yet of, they don't realize just how important it is.
They think it's, well, it's just, you you know some kind of judicial thing that's not that important but it actually what they're
doing what's happening on Tuesday is a vote for that which party controls the
US House of Representatives. That is why it is so significant and
whichever party controls the house you to a significant degree, it controls the country, which then steers the course of Western civilization.
So it's like, I feel like this is one of those things that may not seem that it's going to affect the entire destiny of humanity, but I think it will.
No pressure.
Yeah.
It's a super big deal.
And the fact that I'm here in person, like I'm not phoning it in.
I'm here in person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there were quite a few death threats, I have to tell you.
I was like, my security team said, well, it's actually gone down from yesterday to today.
It went down from 18,000 to 17,000.
So I'm like, well, maybe it's getting better, you know?
But you can see how crazy some of these people are.
You know, look at the two sort of people
that tried to assassinate President Trump, you know?
I mean, I was, and, you know, they both almost succeeded.
So it's real.
Like, it's not like some imaginary thing.
So anyway, so what we're announcing
is kind of like a block captain program where somebody
can sign up to knock on doors in their zip code
and encourage people to, well, make people aware
that there is a vote and then aware
of how important the vote is.
So you can sign up to be kind of a block captain for your zip code
on the America PAC website right now.
Yeah.
And if you do, it's like basically $20 for just taking a photo with somebody.
It's pretty straightforward.
You just knock on doors in your neighborhood
and give them either a digital or a paper picture of Justice Brad Schimmel.
It can be an approximation.
It doesn't have to be exact.
And they just have to say thumbs up and hold a picture of Judge Schimmel.
And that's it.
And you get $20.
It's pretty easy.
Sounds pretty easy.
It's easy money.
But the whole point of it is just to make people aware of the election and say that there is an election.
It's on Tuesday, and it's super important.
Please vote.
But I think without something like this, we actually are in serious danger of losing the
election. This is very important to put in mind. If you look at the betting market odds,
so if you look at sort of the polling market or culture, like the betting markets, it varies between 85% and 90% probability of loss for Justice Schimmel.
That's the current situation.
So we've got to pull a rabbit out of the hat next level.
We've actually got to have a steady stream of rabbits out of the hat, like it's an arc of rabbits flying through the air
and landing in a voting booth.
Interesting picture. Grok could probably make that picture.
So that's basically what's needed, is we need to generate an anomaly in the matrix.
And because I think there's currently, the Dems are 100,000 votes ahead.
But actually, if the people that voted for President Trump simply vote on Tuesday, we will win.
That's actually all it takes.
Just vote. Boom. Done. Victory. So.
We basically need to drag net the state. It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy for the next 48 hours.
And I think this will be important for the future of civilization.
It's that significant.
So, you don't hear me saying that very often.
It's a big deal.
So vote for Super Judge Schimmel.
I call him Super Judge Schimmel.
Let's see.
So with that, I think we can do Q&A, if you guys would like to do some Q&A.
And I'm happy to answer any questions.
It could be, you know, about those or whatever you'd like to hear about.
Because I think if you ask questions that the public would be interested in hearing,
then those snippets will go all over the place
and it will be helpful to the public
at large and maybe even beyond our country.
So let's see.
Yeah, go ahead.
We can just start over there.
As AI continues to get smarter, won't it inevitably see through its creator's
propaganda? Yes. The question is, as AI gets smarter, will it see through its creator's
propaganda? I hope so. I think you can sort of think of an AI as it is somewhat nurtured by its creator. So you have to say what is
the operating principle? What is the North Star of the AI? You know, if it's a somewhat
corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make corporations happy, or it could be,
you know, if it's particularly some of the AIs
that are trained in, like, the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San
Francisco bias to it.
Because you can think of, like, smart people as well.
Like, you know, there are big differences in sort of beliefs among smart people.
And so you can expect that there will be big differences in beliefs among AIs as well.
With Grok, our aspiration is a maximally truth-seeking AI, which is like you always want to try to
get as close to the truth as possible, even if the truth is unpopular.
And that's our goal, which I think is a very important goal.
Hey, nice shirt.
Oh, thank you.
First of all, path of exile for life.
But more importantly, as we see, the whole world has turned to a fear-based mobilization effort.
And we've seen that translate into violence.
And the right's not immune to it because it can hit anybody's psychology.
How do we beat that with optimism? Because that's going to be crucial to avoid mass eruption of conflict.
Yeah, I mean, there does seem to be...
You're right that the right is not immune from sort of hate and violence.
It's not like nothing.
But it does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left.
I mean, I haven't seen anyone tearing off
like a Biden-Harris hat.
You feel a bit sorry for them,
like, oh, maybe they're wrong there, you know.
But you see people tearing off MAGA hats.
And somebody just, you know, I saw a video just today
where somebody was just on an escalator,
a woman was on an escalator wearing a MAGA hat,
and someone going the other direction tore the hat off her head.
And I'm like, what, that's rude.
You know?
So, in fact, I sort of find myself in a strange position
because I didn't think of myself as right.
I thought of myself as a centrist.
But then the left went all the other way in the other direction,
and now everyone's a Nazi, you know, before you know it.
And I'm like, wait a second.
Do you know what that means?
No, obviously not.
So, but yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I believe in peaceful discourse and that, you know,
we make arguments, verbal arguments, and the people decide which way they want to go.
But, you know, we don't engage in sort of shouting people down or violence or burning
things or shooting things.
That's how democracy is supposed to work, is peaceful discourse. people down or violence or burning things or shooting things.
That's how democracy is supposed to work, is peaceful discourse.
My question is about USAID.
Has the Doge team found any evidence that any of the radical left Democrats like Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff,
Chuck Schumer have received money directly from USAID?
And if so, will we be hearing about that evidence anytime soon?
Yeah.
So, there is a massive amount of corruption, but it is circuitous.
So what happens is there's money that, obviously it's your taxpayer money,
that is then sent to various government organizations who then send it to NGOs.
An NGO is a non-governmental organization, but obviously if it's a government-funded non-governmental organization,
Obviously, if it's a government-funded, non-governmental organization, it's just an organization.
it's just an organization. It's just a government.
It's just a government.
Effectively, there's a giant fraud loophole, which is that the government can send money
to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the laws of the United States.
They'll send the money overseas to one NGO, then they'll go through a bunch of them.
I'm highly confident that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United
States and lands in the pockets of the people you just mentioned.
But it is a circuitous route.
It's not like it, it doesn't go directly.
But let's just say that there's'm trying to connect the dots of how did they become rich while
earning, how'd they get $20 million if they're earning $200,000 a year? Sounds, nobody can
explain that. So something's, yeah, we're going to try to figure it out and certainly stop it from happening.
So, yeah.
I mean, just in general, the whole NGO scam is just crazy.
And, yeah, it's blowing my mind, really.
So, yeah.
Most of us here are aware of social media censorship, and I know you're keenly aware of it.
Thank you for turning around, X.
Awesome.
Welcome.
As censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can we do about that?
Are you referring to offering financial services by X?
No, being kicked off of financial institutions for beliefs.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, certainly that won't happen during the Trump administration.
Hopefully that can be enshrined in law, which is part of the reason why we needed a Republican Congress.
So you didn't see any Republicans kicking Democrats out and debanking Democrats, but there were a lot of Republicans that were debanked, thousands, which is really outrageous.
So I say it does seem kind of one-sided, you know, this, like, trying to ruin people's
lives financially and violent protests overwhelmingly is coming from the left these days. You know, it's like, and whereas the right is polite,
and fair as far as I can tell.
So, yeah.
Go ahead.
Hi, sorry, thank you for being here.
Your comment kind of about the Matrix is kind of ironic
because my husband and I watched the first
Matrix and the sequel yesterday. My question is when so much of social media nowadays,
whether it be X or YouTube or whatever, is kind of curated to your person's particular beliefs,
or even where we have protesters that show up to town halls
or potentially are paid,
how does America kind of come together?
And it used to be where you could have a conversation
and have discourse like you discussed,
and still be friends even if you disagreed with kind of some of their statements.
When you talk about knocking on doors, like to different people's house, like one kind of fear that I have is like, even if you talk to somebody, everybody has their own sets of beliefs and their own truths.
So I guess how do you get through that?
Yeah, well, I think what we saw there for quite a while was that all of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in lockstep together.
And they were all parroting the same left-wing talking points.
And they were suppressing any dissent and any so-called right-wing or, frankly, even centrist views.
And that's why I felt it was critical to acquire Twitter, now X, in order to enable that dialogue.
So it's only a step in the right direction,
and I think you've seen now,
once X was willing to break ranks
and not censor Republicans,
then you saw others also start to move in that direction.
You know, it looks like, for example,
Facebook and Meta, you know, yeah.
Certainly Mark Zuckerberg has stated that they will be doing sort of community notes
based on the community notes of the X platform,
and as opposed to having sort of far-left censorship bureau,
the sort of, you know, the woke Stasi essentially reviewing things.
So that's a step in the right direction.
You know, there's some, maybe some hope for the CNNs of the world.
It's like, with Scott being on there, he's great.
You know, he's like, but I... But I'm sort of hopeful that things are moving in the direction
where different points of view are espoused on,
or, you know, heard on legacy media and social media.
So I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic about the future.
I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic about the future.
And, you know, on the X platform, you know, we don't prioritize, you know, one side or the other.
We try to be as fair as possible.
And I will reply to, you know, prominent Democrats, even if they sort of say terrible things about me.
So, you know, it's like, yeah, we should have this discourse.
And so I kind of think, at least on the media front, things are going in a good direction.
But I am kind of perturbed by the sort of how aggressive these protests are.
You know, where it's like, you know, there are people at these protests calling for the death of the president
and death of me and, I don't know, probably death of others.
You know, that's the kind of thing that's not cool, you know.
At the risk of saying something outrageous, calling for murder is not cool.
Thanks for coming, Elon.
I'm a teacher by trade.
I have gone through the four-year bachelor's degree to teach the nation's youth going forward.
On that...
Actually, I'm kind of curious. What was that like?
I got an English degree, man. At the end of the day, unless you want to hire me, that's about all I can do.
You know, that's all I can do.
Sure.
Sure.
So during teacher college, they give us a heat map,
and it says these are the cost per head on each student.
The south, southeast, is generally the worst,
but they're also generally the lowest spent per capita on each student.
Beyond just that correlation of the one text I got in an education class,
I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy, with the advancement of AI educational tools
where specifically you can get feedback and these students can get feedback. Where do
we see 100 years from now? With all this technology.
Oh man, 100 years from now?
How about 50?
Let's start with 50.
I hope we'll last 100 years.
That would be like jackpot.
You know?
Yeah, exactly.
Hopefully we're like on Mars, you know.
So that would be really cool.
So I do think AI can be incredibly helpful in teaching
because you can essentially set up each kid with a personalized AI, and that literally impossible to spend time with every kid individually,
or at least you can spend a little bit of time, but not, obviously, that's a 1 to 20,
1 to 30 ratio.
So, but what you can do is you can set them up with the AI and then you can, you know,
if things get stuck or whatever, if you want to... You can essentially guide the orchestra that way, and I think it could be a very powerful
learning tool.
You know, I personally enjoyed my English classes in high school, actually.
You know, sometimes I wondered, why am I reading Charles Dickens?
But you know, there's some merit to reading Dickens and many other...
I actually think that we should have a great canon of English
literature, that kids do at least, you know, some number of the significant works in the
English language.
So...
I mean, this, yeah, it seems like very obvious to me, but yeah.
And another thing with regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very important profession.
If you look at the expenditures, there's a very big rise in the number of administrators,
but not a very big rise in the number of teachers.
And so that's really the big factor, which is,
we should have more actual teachers,
you know, and I believe in paying teachers well
and having a lot of teachers,
but we should say, why do we have so many administrators
or non-teachers?
So administrative expense has gone ballistic,
but teaching expense is more or less flat.
It doesn't make sense.
First, I would like to apologize to you on behalf of America for the idiots you have to deal with
for what you're doing for us to improve our country.
Second of all, my question is, what is your opinion on the Federal Reserve,
and do you have any intentions of doing anything with them?
And the Fed!
Yeah.
I don't know.
I always wanted to say that.
I think there's like 20,000 people that work at the Fed.
Seems pretty high.
In fact, there's a lot of people that work at the Fed, and it seems like, why do we have
so many people at the Fed, and what do they do?
And, you know, sometimes I wonder which one would win.
You know, the federal, for interest rates, the board of the Federal Reserve or a Magic 8-Ball?
And I'm like, I think the Magic 8-Ball might win, you know?
So then I'm like, well, a Magic 8-Ball might win, you know. So then I'm like, well, Magic 8-Ball is a lot cheaper.
So, you know, it's like you shake it and it says,
check back again later.
I'm like, okay.
Same thing.
But I think what really matters is that government spending is not far in excess of government
revenue.
That's a fundamental issue that we have, where we have a deficit of $2 trillion, and we have
interest payments that now exceed the entire budget of the military.
In fact, that was a big wake-up call for me,
was when the amount of money that we're
paying national debt interest exceeded the Defense Department
budget.
I'm like, the Defense Department budget is very big,
and interest is higher than that, and climbing?
That's a disaster.
So the very simple simple straightforward goal of the Doge team is to get rid of waste
and fraud.
It's mostly waste.
It's depending on how, I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% fraud, something like that.
But it's got to be...
We got another sore-asleeper agent there.
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!
So I mean to be clear, the very simple thing we're doing, and we post everything publicly
on the Doge website, which is just to look at every expense
and say, is this actually a good use of your taxpayer dollars?
That's it.
It's not super complicated.
And the thing that's pretty wild, this is why I say, you know, I used to be a Democrat. And if you listen to the speeches of Clinton and Gore in the 90s, when they were going on about reducing waste and fraud,
literally, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
You'd be like, who said it?
Doge or Clinton-Gore?
You can't even tell the difference.
It sounds exactly the same.
It's wild.
So we're really just trying to restore common sense to government and say, like, let's
not waste your money, and let's make sure it's spent well, and that's it.
And in trying to save a trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're seeing is of the $7 trillion in government spending, let's
try to see if we can make it 15%, 1-5% more efficient.
And I'm confident that we can.
That's actually not a huge bar, by the way. And when you see the crazy things that the government is spending money on, you can see
a list of some of them.
You know, like, I don't know if we should be spending money on transgender comic books
in Peru.
That doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on, you know?
Why would we do that?
If somebody in Peru wants to do that
of their own accord, that's fine,
but it shouldn't be your money that does it.
So it's just, and, you know,
we shouldn't be paying rent on empty buildings.
And, you know, if people,
I do think there is a role for government,
but we just need to make sure,
we're just going through and saying,
and doing what I would call like an excellent and necessary and reasonably trusted review of organizations and personnel.
So is this person doing a good job?
Great.
Is the role necessary?
If so, that's good.
And are they reasonably trusted, meaning they're not a psycho?
Like, we're not talking about political affiliation, just that they're not crazy.
So you know, I'm not strong with that.
I'm like, sounds super normal to me.
So that's it. Now, in this process, one of the things that we've discovered, which is, I think, on the
fraud side, which is a really big deal, is that the Democrat administration, the Biden
administration has basically taken every arm of the U.S US government and bent it towards creating a financial incentive
for illegal immigrants to come to the United States.
Now, this is every part of the government.
So like Social Security, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, disability, even the IRS.
So you can like fill out a fake tax return and say you need a tax, maybe I shouldn't
tell people this, but it'll actually work.
I mean, mostly, there's some chance you'll get caught, but if you fill out a fake tax
return you can just get a tax refund even though if you didn't pay taxes.
So we're trying to stop all these things, say like, okay, let's stop the waste and fraud,
and we also need to turn off the massive financial incentive for illegals to come to the United States and stay in the
United States.
And this is really the thing that is causing the Democrats to lose their mind, because
they're actually spending, at this point, tens of billions to attract and retain illegals
in the United States.
It's really on that scale.
It's a gigantic number.
And the goal is to turn all the swing states blue.
That means Wisconsin.
So that's the goal.
So with the asylum program, they can get a green card within a year, and then they can get citizenship as
quickly as four years after getting a green card.
Because the first year of being asylum counts for the five-year citizenship waiting period.
So this is a very big deal.
So a number of friends of mine have actually joined the government in order to help with
this process.
And I'd like to welcome my friend Antonio Gracios to the stage.
I think so.
Does it work?
I can give you mine.
Does it work? I can give you mine.
Does it work?
It'll be okay.
I mean, Buzz Aldrin's still alive,
and he went past the belts.
Is this working?
Yeah, there you go.
So, Antonio, can you tell us what you... Antonio's helping out with Social Security, so just trying to review
Social Security where you may have heard that we found 20 million dead people
marked as alive in the Social Security database. This is too, so crazy and then
you'll notice there's a strange trend here where how many social security numbers were issued?
Do you want to?
Yeah, so let me tell you what happened here.
We started at the top of the system.
You want to talk about a lot of it?
We started at the top of the system mapping the whole system of social security to understand
where all the fraud was.
And there's a lot of great people there that showed us really a lot of waste.
And so that came up with a big list of stuff they're working on.
You've heard some of that already.
But this is what jumped out at us.
When we saw these numbers, we were like, what is this?
In 21, you see 270,000 people goes all the way to 2.1 million in 24.
These are non-citizens that are getting social security numbers.
Yeah, this is a mind-blowing chart. Yeah, just this this literally blew us away
Like we went there to find fraud and we found this by accident
And this isn't political by the way my parents immigrants
Yeah, this country's been great to us my brother's sister all born in Spain. I'm pro-legal immigration
This is not this is not immigration. This is not political.
This is not political.
This is about America and the future of America.
And there are a lot of good people in the system that pointed us in this direction.
I want to honor them right now.
They work in the government today who took risks to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on.
So I want to stop for a minute.
I want to honor those people today.
Very good people. Very good people.
Very good people. I have been from DC to social security offices to the border to track this down
and very good people have helped us along the way. I want to thank them. Yeah. This number,
what this is, is when you come in the country, if you're illegal, there's a couple ways to come in.
You come in through a port of entry,
and you can tell them you're afraid,
and they'll give you an asylum case.
You'll get an interview, then you get in.
That's one way to do it.
Another way to do it is to just go to the border.
Literally, this happened.
I talked to border patrol myself.
Elon was there too.
I went to Laredo, and I went to Bronzeville.
Elon went to Eagle Pass.
You walk up to a border patrol officer
and you tell them you wanna come in,
they have a couple of choices.
They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony
under 1325 or they can make an administrative offense,
like a parking ticket basically.
They were told to do that,
make it an administrative offense
under the last administration.
And then you could walk across the border,
they do what's called a release in your own recognizance,
and they give you an NTA, a notice to appear,
which is to appear at a judge.
The wait times on judges are like average six years,
look at Grok, you'll see it, on immigration judges.
There's only 700 of them.
This is 5.5 million people, okay?
So what happens then?
Once you're in the country and you've got asylum,
do one of these pathways, and we map the whole thing out,
you can apply for a work document.
You file a 765. It's the work form.
You get this form called the 766.
That's the authorization.
And then Social Security Administration automatically sends you in the mail
your Social Security number.
No interview. No ID.
This is worth just reiterating. People sometimes think that under the Biden administration
that he was simply asleep at the switch. They weren't asleep at the switch. It was a massive,
large-scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire
voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the American people and make it a permanent deep blue one-party state
from which there would be no escape.
Look, if I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure I believed it.
I went through it myself and mapped it.
And Ilan is right.
This is true.
The defaults in the system from Social Security to all of the benefit programs have been set
to max inclusion, max pay for
these people and minimum collection.
That's what's happening.
We found 1.3 million of them already on Medicaid as an example.
We've gone through on every benefit program we went through, we found groups from this
particular group of people, this 5.5 million people in those benefit programs.
And then what was really, really disturbing us was why.
We're asking ourselves why.
And so we actually just took a sample and looked at voter
registration records.
And we found people here registered to vote in this
population, yes.
And who did vote?
And we found some by sampling that actually did vote.
And we have referred them to prosecution at the Home Ed
Secure Investigation Service.
Yeah.
Already. Already. That is already happening. Right now.
Yeah. And the
truly disturbing thing, though, I just want you to know this, the truly disturbing thing to me, and the darkest
thing about this to me, the voter fraud is terrible,
but the human tragedy this created is
extraordinary, because what you don't understand, and people don't know't know and Americans need to know that's why I'm here is it human traffickers?
Made 13 to 15 billion dollars off of this
Okay, that's the money that's going around the world moving people around the world to our borders because of these incentives
How does it work? What happens? Hey, if you're in Africa and you're in South America
You got to walk up through Mexico through this America. Who do you pay? You pay the narcos. You pay the traffickers. Right? And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between $20,000 and $500, depends where they pick you up, to walk across all those countries and get all the way up to the border. Where does that money go? It goes to the cartels. It goes to human traffickers.
It goes to the cartels. It goes to human traffickers.
Right? There are 30,000 children that have not appeared on the notice to appear already. ICE knows this.
30,000 children,
270,000 children
didn't even get notices to appear. ICE told us that kids are being trafficked back and forth across the border to complete families to make this easier.
This is a human tragedy.
It's not just the money. It's the people and the kids. to complete families to make this easier. This is a human tragedy.
It's not just the money.
It's the people and the kids.
And how many of these people died on the way up here that didn't make it in?
What happened to them?
We created this system here
that created a Senate for people to come
and be taken advantage of by these traffickers.
And how do you think they get paid?
When you're an African-American,
you got $20,000 or $10,000 or $5,000 to pay these traffickers? No, you don't. What happens?
You come in, then you owe them the money. It's your indentured servant. If you don't pay them,
what happens? What do they do? They kill your mother, they kill your brother, they kill your
family. What happens next? That's what we discovered. And I have to tell you, it's tragic to me.
The tragedy, the human tragedy this created is extraordinary.
That's the real problem.
This is America.
We don't do this here in America.
Yeah.
We don't do this here in America.
People come here legally and that's great.
Elon came here legally.
My parents came here legally.
That's the way to do it.
This is outrageous.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
I mean, you can see,
because there's still actually a lot of people out there,
especially in the sort of center third of the country,
that somehow think this is made up by the right
or it's like some fiction.
It's not that it's somehow not true, but it is absolutely true.
And you can see that if you, you know,
look at things like the state of New York, which tried to make it legal for illegal immigrants to vote in the state of New York.
That was only shut down by the New York Supreme Court a few weeks ago. And California has made it healthcare
available to all illegals in the state and they initially claimed that it would
only cost three billion it's now nine billion and climbing. So it's really it
if you create a massive financial incentive for people to come to the United States illegally, then that's what they will do.
It's a very sort of, it'd be strange, it'd be odd if that didn't happen.
Democrats losing their mind, by far, the real reason for these attacks and sort of the burning
of the cars and everything is that we're going to turn off the payments to illegals.
Yeah.
Because, yeah, I mean, because that's not the deal.
You know, it's, you know, it's not, it's simply not right.
And, you know, if you look at that thing with the Roosevelt Hotel and, like, you know, the luxury hotels in New York,
Roosevelt Hotel and the luxury hotels in New York where the Federal Emergency Management
Agency funds were being used to house illegals in luxury hotels in New York that the average
American can't afford.
And they were giving a welcome package and $10,000 debit cards and everything else.
It's super real. I mean, it's like, in my, I think it's the biggest
voter fraud thing in history by far.
And more of a, if left unchecked, it would have succeeded.
As Antonio mentioned, the timeframe for going from
asylum to citizen is roughly five years.
And so all of the people that came in on that chart that you saw,
if the machine behind the Kamala puppet had won,
then, you know, they'd change out the puppet, but it's the same machine.
Then they would have actually legalized all those people and there would be no swing states.
And they added more. Remember, it was doubling every year.
Yes.
It went from one million to two million.
It was going ballistic.
It was going ballistic.
And it is just, these people are just ending the benefit programs now, by the way.
Right.
We're seeing the ramp happen too. And these are just the ones that are in the system.
This doesn't count the other, you know, seven and a half, 8 million that ICE thinks are out there. We don't know if
they have numbers. The number is totally uncontrolled. The voter ID requirement in this state is
super important because of this. Because the social security number, it's not supposed
to be a federal ID number, but it basically is. That's how you access all the benefits.
This is why we need voter ID, because this thing is not secure. You could walk into a Social Security office today, today as an adult in America, and get
a Social Security number enumerated with simply answering six or seven simple questions and
showing some forms of ID that are not Federal ID.
Well, you can just actually make it up.
You can show basically like a fake utility bill or, you know.
You can show a medical bill and a school ID.
Yeah, medical bill and a school ID, and you get a social security number.
And then from there, you get on the voter rolls, and then basically dem operatives will form the vote.
Yes.
So, you know, the problem with this, obviously, is that if you turn the swing states blue, then there are no swing
states and then we're in a permanent one-party system. And as soon as they win that, they'll
have the House, the Senate, the presidency, they'll pack the Supreme Court, then they'll
double down on the illegals, just like California. So we've already seen this happen in California. California is supermajority dim.
So at least California is held back by the fact that people can move out of state.
Once you can no longer leave America, they'll be far worse than California.
So the gravity of the situation is severe.
Help us clean up Wisconsin border walls.
Yes. Yes.
Absolutely.
I mean, it's really simple stuff.
Just, you know, having a photo ID
to vote is, like, you can't
buy something at the liquor store, but
voting is more important
than, you know, buying a beer. You you're gonna need a real ID than an airplane
yeah and like the same people who said who are saying that there should be no
voter ID at at voting stations demanded vaccine vaccine ID from everyone yeah
I like that's weird you know so weird. So it's really about just restoring integrity
to the voting system, which really should not be a right or left course, but a course
for all. Do we not all want integrity in the voting system? Of course we do.
Yes, of course. Yes. So, you're welcome to hang out
and maybe some questions. Hi, Elon. I also am a teacher. I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school Spanish.
But I moved here last year and got to vote in Wisconsin, where my vote actually mattered.
And I'm so glad.
That was amazing that we got Trump elected.
Yeah.
And I was listening to, I believe it was Patrick Bette David, he called this perfectly where
he said when Elon, or when Trump gets elected, he's going to go from enemy number one to
Elon's going to be number one.
And for the reason, I mean, he only has a couple years left and we've all seen the left go after you
and make you number one enemy
and just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck.
There's all this horrible thing
and just on a serious note, I just want to let you know,
my wife and I pray for you at night.
For your safety.
Thank you, guys.
I've got to watch my hand gestures these days.
I think this one's safe.
It's like, you can't wave to the crowd you know what will happen
and i've been a fan of yours for like a decade and i've been a walking tesla ad to anybody who
talks to me even though i never had a tesla until i came to wisconsin too and it's 10 years old, but it's the best Model S I've ever had. Thank you.
It's incredible.
But I just wanted to ask you if it would be okay.
I brought my dad with me.
He's a pastor, and I just thought if it's okay with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you as well for your protection.
Thank you. Thank you.
Elon, well, thank you so much for everything you've done for our country. We do love you very much. Thank you. And as a pastor, but just as a person, right? And even if I wasn't a Christian,
and I know not everyone here is a Christian,
but I think there's quite a few of you here who are.
Either way, we love all people.
That's not the issue.
The issue is fairness, what you're talking about.
The issue being just,
and the justice being a weapon instead of lawfare, instead of actually just and
and all this corruption you're talking about and that's a bad spirit if you want
to say it that way, putting it nicely. It's it's something evil that has come
against our country, our morals, our families, et cetera. And then you and the president and others getting
attacked with this outrage and this hate. So if you would allow me to pray. Thank you. If you at
all who want to, please join me, bow our heads and pray. Gracious heavenly father, we are thankful
for our country. We are thankful that God does bless America and that God is the source of all
goodness, love, and provision, and that you, Lord God, have provided a great nation with a great
history. And although we've gone through many rough times, you're still very present and active with us. Thank you for protecting
President Trump from that fatal attack and we ask that you envelop and protect
all of those who are fighting for justice, for freedom, for order, for
dignity and to reward people according to merit and especially put your hedge of protection
around Elon Musk, around his children, around his whole entire family and all of his team members
that all would do good and just by our country and freedom truly and justice would reign once again. We ask this in the name of the blessed Savior, Jesus Christ,
who we remember during this time of year,
who suffered and died for our sins.
May you wash away all that is wrong with our country and start with us.
We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen.
Amen. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
Sorry?
Up to you. You can hang out if you want.
Well, that was beautiful.
That was beautiful.
I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly.
Yeah.
Hey, Elon, I'd like to start off by thanking you for all that you've done for our country and the world as a greater whole.
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.
I have a question for you.
As you go about your decision-making at Doge, how are you able to keep your moral North Star and not set precedence
when it comes to overstepping Democratic processes simply because the end justifies the means
and have outcomes similar to the last election with Democratic presidential candidate being appointed
without due process that just further polarizes the country?
Also, on a side note, one more thing.
Do you see a place in the long term
for decentralized technology in society and government?
Yeah, I mean, to answer the second question first,
I think generally it's good to have decentralized systems
because the more centralized something is,
the more power that is in any one single entity,
the more corruption you're likely to have.
So decentralization, I think, is good to minimize corruption.
Then with respect to Doge, I mean, as I said, we're trying to be as literal as possible.
It's the Department of Government Efficiency, and it's just literally going through and saying,
okay, this money was spent.
Is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible
or is it not and you know if it doesn't seem sensible and we you know say well
we shouldn't spend that money anymore which and we should we should stop it so
and then we post the we're trying to be as transparent as possible so all the
doge actions are posted on the Doge.gov
website and on the Doge handle on X.
So if people disagree with something, we can say, well, which part do you disagree with?
And when I get these sort of attacks of like, oh, it's unconstitutional, I'm like, well,
which expenditure is unconstitutional that we have stopped?
Because then they don't know, actually, because they
haven't actually looked at anything.
So now obviously a lot of this can be reversed with a new administration, but at least for
some period of time, we're going to make sure that your taxpayer money is spent at least
15% better.
It's not like a, you know, I think it's a reasonable goal, it's a rational goal, it's
a sensible goal, and the net result, I should say, if we have the combination of a trillion
dollar increase in economic output and a trillion dollar decrease in the budget deficit, then
the outcome should be that there is no
inflation or very little inflation from one year to the next.
So at the end of next year, the prices will be at the grocery store will be very similar
to what they are right now, which means that standard of living will actually probably
be higher, a little bit higher.
Whereas we've had rampant inflation to date.
And inflation is really just a pernicious tax
that has been used by governments throughout history.
And it's very tempting for governments
to use inflation as a tax because it's indirect.
People see the prices rising at the grocery store,
or for goods and services, or for houses,
and they tend to blame the store.
But it's not the store, it's the government.
The government has reduced the value of money,
and as a result, prices rise.
By reducing waste and fraud, we'll essentially make the economy more efficient and we'll
shift people resources from the government to the private sector.
And that will result in an increase in the output of goods and services, and so the average
standard of living will therefore rise.
So they're trying to make economics sound very complicated,
but it's really not that complicated.
The standard of living increases
when the average output of goods and services increases per person.
There's basically more stuff,
therefore you have more stuff to divide across the people.
That's it.
You can run this sort of thought experiment and say, like, if there was 100 people on an island,
and you'd say, well, how many people do you want farming, fishing, making stuff,
you know, versus, you know, doing regulations?
You would say, like, you wouldn't want, like, 20 people doing regulations, you know?
You'd be like, oh, that's too many.
Well, then, maybe you'd want one or two.
I don't know.
Maybe none.
Ideally zero.
I'm all for small government, by the way.
I think that really...
Yeah. You know, when the United States was formed, there were only, you know, you had the Secretary
of State, the Secretary of War, which I think is a more accurate name than defense.
And, you know, but it was Secretary of War for a long time.
And you had the Secretary of the Treasury, and you had the Attorney General.
That was it.
And if it were entirely up to me, I'd be like, let's make it like that again.
Yeah.
Howdy, gentlemen.
I've got a quick question regarding government and transparency.
Do you think Dogecoin may ever be used, or the Dogecoin blockchain, to be used for maximum transparency?
Well, the names are similar, but they're doing two very different things.
In fact, I was going to call it the Government Efficiency Commission, but that's a super
boring name.
And then the internet said, no, it needs to be called the Department of Government Efficiency.
I was like, well, the internet is right.
So we changed the name from Government Efficiency Commission to Department of Government Efficiency.
But there are no plans for the government to use Dogecoin or anything, as far as I know. So they happen to be similar names, but really, it's just, we're just literally
trying to make the government 15% more efficient. It's kind of like, most of the work that's being
done is, it's kind of like homework. It's not like, it's just work, you know? Frankly, it's just work. Frankly, it's like washing the dishes.
It's not like, you know,
a lot of it's not super fun work.
It's just going through and looking at every expense
and saying, why does this department
have like 10 times more software licenses than people?
That doesn't make sense.
You know, why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico subscriptions? That doesn't
make sense. You know, like there's just one thing after another like that. It's like things
that are just kind of boring. It's like a ton of boring stuff. Like you do hear about
like the sort of weird stuff that makes the headlines,
but most of the costs that are being cut are just very basic, boring things.
It's like homework at scale, is what I'd call the Department of Government Efficiency.
Can I add some more?
I'm really selling it here.
Yeah.
This question about transparency.
I'm really selling it here.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I would say the principles that Ilana set out for Doge are they begin with truth.
Truth.
Find the truth.
Number one.
Find the truth.
Why?
Because the government's gotten so big that actually the people don't even know what's there.
They don't know the source of truth.
So these licenses, it's not like people bought these licenses because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft.
They just kept buying licenses because Microsoft can sell them.
I mean, it's just, it's that strange.
And we don't want to pick on Microsoft.
It's like every software company, by the way.
Any software company.
Pick software company X.
They bought these licenses because they just thought they should buy more licenses.
There's more people coming in and there's no one there.
People aren't coming back to the office, right?
It's just finding truth.
The number one principle is truth.
And then transparency is number two, I think, on the list, right?
So find the truth, make it public, make it transparent.
And number three is, man, do it fast.
Make it efficient and be urgent.
Yeah.
Those are the principles that Elon's put in the dough.
Yeah.
It's worth pointing out, like, it's actually difficult to, you have to recalibrate how dumb things can be because it's the government.
You know, frankly, it's, like, dumber than you think it could possibly be.
So, you know, like, for example, we found there were a whole bunch of what I call ghost
payments going out, where the government contracting officer had retired or changed jobs or was
dead or, I don't know, they were not around anymore.
And they forgot to turn off the payment stream to some company.
And it's like leaving the money faucet on and you, you know, leave the house, you know,
and it's just the money faucet keeps going.
And it's a pretty rare organization that will complain about receiving money.
So organizations, so then you're like, is that waste or fraud?
I mean, the government did send them the money, but they didn't deserve it.
So then, well, okay, we should turn off the money spigot if the contract is over, you know, type of thing.
So one of the things that we made a recommendation to the Treasury,
that the payment classification codes
and the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields.
And have a name attached.
So we could just ask the person who approved the payment, is this payment a good payment?
Does this make sense?
This is the kind of thing that is normal for individuals and for companies, but that was
not the case.
So the reason why the government could not pass an audit was because the information
did not exist that would be required to pass an audit. Like it was literally impossible
because you just had all these blank checks going out with no explanation and no payment code. So
how are you supposed to do an audit? It's literally impossible. So that's what I mean by like it's
very basic stuff like we just want the congressional
appropriation payment code to be mandatory and a very short explanation.
We're not even going to judge what the explanation is, but that there be any explanation at all
and a name attached was like revolutionary.
And my guess is this will probably save $100 billion a year.
Like, a lot, you know?
So... I think I can tell a little story from Social Security Administration
that people might like to hear, too, which is...
Sorry?
At Social Security Administration, they have passed their audit, actually.
They've got, I don't know, about 100 material deficiencies,
but they passed their audit.
When we looked at the balance sheet, we found that $800 million had fallen off the balance
sheet last year.
$800 million.
What do you mean, fell off the balance sheet?
It's exactly the question I asked, Elon.
Where did it fall to?
Exactly.
Where did it fall to?
I asked the auditors to come in.
It's like a comedy sketch.
Exactly.
A comedy routine here.
Where did it go?
Exactly. Here's what happened. I asked the auditors to come in. It's like a comedy sketch. Where did it go? Exactly. Wait, where did it go? Exactly.
Here's what happened. I asked the auditors to come in. I won't give the name of the
auditors to come on in. I asked the auditor partner myself, what does fell off the balance
sheet mean? Is that a gap term or non-gap term? What does that mean? The payment plans,
because under the last administration, if you got overpaid on Social Security, like if you were getting SSI or a disability and they paid you too much money,
you got a job, I didn't tell them, they paid you too much money,
they dropped that payment plan to $10 a month max.
So payment plans went out past the system date.
So if I remember correctly, it was 2047.
Payment plans out past system date.
When it went past the system date, literally, it fell off the system.
Okay.
It disappeared.
And the officers were supposed to, the technicians were supposed to put notes in the system that this was going to be collected.
The notes were so bad, the orders concluded this could not be collected.
And we literally lost $800 million.
Gone.
Okay.
And I said to the order, how could that possibly be?
And she said, well, you know, it's not really material.
It's a $1.5 trillion program. I said, well, it's material. It? And she said, well, you know, it's not really a material.
It's a 1.5 trillion dollar program.
I said, well, it's material that's your money.
Is it in the computer?
It's not in the computer.
It fell off the computer.
Is it in the computer?
Yeah.
It literally disappeared from the computer.
Literally.
It literally disappeared.
Literally.
It disappeared.
800 million dollars just disappeared.
I mean, it's crazy.
So there's like, it's one like nutty thing after another like that.
Yeah.
It's, yeah. I Yeah. It's crazy.
Anyway, we're just trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what the heck's
going on.
Yeah.
It's just like...
Please.
And like I said, we're being fully transparent with the American people so you know exactly
what's going on.
And just making sure that money is not wasteful or fraudulent.
One interesting statistic was that 40% of the calls into Social Security were fraudulent,
like meaning that it was someone trying to get a Social Security payment that was going to a senior to go to a
Instead to go to a fraud ring
So that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent
But probably the other half were people asking what happened to my Social Security?
This is true actually
What am I? Bananas yeah, I mean we found this actually the people there where did my... This is true. Bananas.
Yeah, I mean, we found this, actually.
The people there at Social Security knew this was going on,
and they had been complaining about it for a long time,
and no one fixed it.
And these were mostly criminal rings outside the country,
in other places in the world that are jamming up the phone systems,
calling in, using just these six simple security questions,
because you can actually... This was how crazy it was.
You could change your direct deposit information
at Social Security by simply answering six questions
on the phone, like your mother's maiden name,
your date of birth, et cetera.
Like stuff you can find on the internet.
Easily found on the dark web.
That's why it was so easy.
It was a huge, huge exportation, super open door.
I mean, the bank vault was open
and the criminals ran right in and took the money,
and they took it away from our seniors.
Right, so what happened is, like my dad's 84,
he'd go get it, checked it was from the bank account,
wasn't there, then he's gotta go through a whole process
to get the money back from the government,
which takes a long time, it's the government, right?
So we put in a very simple 2FA system,
all this nonsense you see in the media about,
we turned off the phone lines,
but it's not true.
All we did, all they did, actually,
we recommended to Social Security
that they put in a very simple 2FA system.
It's just two-factor authentication.
Excuse me, two-factor authentication.
They say, kind of, you get the banks.
Like, pretty simple.
You have a bank account.
You do this.
And you know what?
They did it.
They said, yeah, you're right.
We should do that. They went and did it. Good for them. They did it. No one this. And you know what? They did it. They said, yeah, you're right. We should do that. They went and did it.
Good for them. They did it. No one had the will to do it.
They did it. And they're going to keep increasing
security. We've given them
a lot more recommendations,
and they're on the road to increase security, stop all
this nonsense, so our seniors
and our people that are disabled don't get stolen from.
Yeah, this is really worth
emphasizing.
Because, like, the, you know, the radical left
are saying that, like, somehow we're stealing Social Security. Like, first of all, like,
you know, I don't need the money, okay? In fact, it's costing me a lot to be in this job.
You know, you had, like, Tim Walz dancing on stage showing a chart of Tesla stock, which
is a really awful thing for him to do, you know, because what they're trying to do is
put massive pressure on me and Tesla, I guess, to, you know, I don't know, stop doing this. But, you know,
it's, you know, my Tesla stock
and the stock of everyone who holds Tesla
went roughly in half.
I mean, it's a big deal.
So, not only am I not getting any,
I'm not getting paid,
definitely not stealing money
and would never get away with it,
but the value of my Tesla stock is in half.
So, this is a very expensive job,
is what I'm saying. But I think it's... You're welcome.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you very much, guys.
but long term, I think Tesla stock's going to do
fine, so maybe it's gonna do fine.
So, you know, maybe it's a buying opportunity.
So, but the actual thing we're doing is making sure that people do get their social security
and that it doesn't get stolen.
So, yeah.
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
Hi, Elon.
I got a question for you about Dodge.
Great shirt.
Everybody in this room has got a bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in
a bunch of different states.
And it turned into crickets when you brought it up online that you were going to go check our gold and I'm worried about the Democrats
and Joe Biden's last administration with the money not being there. Did you get blocked or are you
still able to go check that? Sorry, I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're referring to.
Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, that's up to the president, of course.
But I think it would be awesome to live stream Fort Knox.
You know?
I mean, that would be really fun.
And after all, it is actually the gold of the American people.
So the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to see their gold.
Hopefully it looks really cool.
Open the doors, like, is it there?
Is that really gold?
Let's check.
So maybe it'll be really interesting.
I'm all for it.
The president says he's interested in doing it, so hopefully that happens. So, all right.
Good evening, Mr. Musk. How are you?
Good. How's it going?
Good. Good. My name is Vito Gabriel. I'm 18 years old. This is my first election that I'll be voting in. So, very exciting.
Oh, actually, that reminds me.
So it is actually possible to both register to vote on Tuesday.
If someone has not registered to vote, they can register to vote in Wisconsin, and they can vote the same day.
So even if somebody's not a registered voter, you can do everything on Tuesday.
So a bit of a back story.
When I was younger, eight years old to be exact, my father put me to work in my family's restaurant,
and it led me to want to start my own business
and to be successful just like you.
And in my opinion, you're one of the most successful businessmen to ever live.
And so what advice would you give to young entrepreneurs
who want to start their own businesses and give back to this great country?
Well, sure.
Well, it is very hard to start a business and have it succeed.
You know, it is true that most businesses that start do not succeed.
So, I mean, I guess I'd really just say, you know, if there's a product or service that
you think is really needed, then you go out and you make that product or you produce that
service, offer that service, and try to be as useful as possible, really.
It's like whether it's a great restaurant or store or a technology company or whatever the case may be.
It's really just like, are you doing things
that are useful to your fellow human beings?
And if you are, then I think the company will be successful.
So that's really what it comes down to, is just being useful.
Like, people ask me, what's the top advice?
I'm like, try to be useful.
It's actually very difficult to be useful.
But I have a lot of admiration for anyone who just
does an honest day's work, making
products or producing services for their fellow human beings.
That's what a company is.
That's it.
But it is hard.
I mean, to a totally frank, I generally say if somebody needs encouragement to start a company,
I would recommend not starting a company.
It's very difficult.
Like, you know, if you look at, say, the automotive industry,
the only two American car companies that have not gone bankrupt
are Tesla and Ford. So it's a big cemetery is what I'm saying. So that's a tough one,
you know, very, very tough industry. And there were really no like commercial rocket companies
that were successful before SpaceX. It's generally very difficult to make the value of the output
exceed the cost of the input.
And that's really what defines a successful business.
And profit is really the difference
between the value of the output and the cost of the input.
That's what profit is.
But it's shockingly hard to make the output more valuable than the input.
That's what I've found.
Yeah, so, all right.
Hi, Elon.
Thank you so much for being here.
Would you agree with me that the economic illiteracy in this country is staggering?
That people don't understand how close we are for the ship of America to going over the fiscal cliff?
Yeah.
Right.
Yes.
Most people, actually, I think most people, well, I think a lot of people don't know what a national debt is.
Like, how did this national debt come about, and how come there's all this money that somehow
we owed, but we didn't sign up to be owing this money?
But there's over $30 trillion of national debt, and that doesn't count future obligations,
and that doesn't count state and local debt.
So it's a lot of money that the government has signed everyone in America up for.
And yeah, so if we don't do something about it, then eventually there won't be any money
for anything. We'll just be paying interest. You know, a company, sorry, I should say a country is
much like a person, it's just bigger. A country is a collection of people.
But just like a person can go bankrupt, a country collectively can also go de facto bankrupt, essentially by diluting
the currency to where it's worthless.
And that's where we're headed unless we take immediate and dramatic action with respect
to government spending.
We're in deep trouble, basically.
You've seen this in places like Venezuela.
Yeah, basically. You've seen this in places like Venezuela. Yeah, exactly.
So you've seen it in a lot of countries where it's,
things have gone to hell in a handbasket,
and it's like we just need to not do that, you know.
So if the ship of America sinks, we all sink with it.
You know, this is something that I try to tell people
in the commercial sector that you're not going to,
your company's not going to make it
if the ship of America sinks.
So we all got to work together here
to make sure it does not.
Antonio, feel free to ad-lib as you wish.
This is the only place left to go.
That's great.
Right, exactly.
I don't think we can run off to some other country and be okay. It's America.
I will die in America.
I'm not going anywhere.
I will, too.
I mean, I might go to Mars, but that will be part of America.
Hi, Elon.
Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here today with us in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
I just want to say that Dozier's findings demonstrate to the American people that the government clearly does not care about our hard-earned tax dollars.
I'm only 26, but I can imagine it's frustrating for people who have worked their entire lives
to see their tax dollars going to fraud, waste, and abuse.
And you alone have contributed so much money to our government via taxes, so thank you.
You're welcome.
I'm sorry that your money's not being spent very well.
I'm sorry that your money's not being spent very well.
You've clearly shown your leadership and team
is capable of transforming our government
into something better than what we see today.
I just want to say,
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's wondering,
but we know that Doge has found quite a bit of money,
and we would like to see some of that returned to the American people.
Do you have any information on when Doge checks would be written or sent out?
Sure.
Well, I guess we need to be successful at scale.
We've made a lot of progress, but there's still a tremendous amount of work
to do.
Effectively,
as government spending
is made more efficient and spending is reduced,
the tax by
inflation is reduced.
one way or another,
you will effectively be better off
if resources in the United States are not wasted.
It's somewhat up to the Congress and maybe the President as to whether specific checks are cut, but whether a check is cut or not, if you reduce wasteful spending,
the economy is going to be better off.
People will do more useful jobs than before.
The total output of goods and services will increase, and then the average standard of
living will increase.
So that's...
Yeah. So that's, yeah.
I think the most important lesson in economics is simply common sense,
that the more people in a country that are engaged in producing useful products and services,
the better off that country will be.
Like you could run the sort the thought experiment to say, in the limit, if we moved everyone in the car industry into the DMV, there would be no cars, but there would be a lot of regulators.
So then you say, well, okay, then how many people should be in the government versus
not government?
And generally, I think you want to minimize the number of people in government.
There'll still be a lot of people in government, but you want to minimize the number of people in government.
There'll still be a lot of people in government, but you want to keep that to a minimum and move people from low to negative productivity roles to high productivity roles in the private sector.
Yeah.
Hey, Elon.
So the first time I heard about population collapse, I think, was from you and Joe Rogan.
I grew up in the generation where it was very overpopulation, global warming.
A lot of people don't want to have kids.
My wife and I just had our first.
She's a year.
Hi, Amelia.
Hi, John.
And I'm finding out very quickly a lot of these things I was told about having kids,
losing personal freedom, it's well worth it. I would recommend it to everybody as I'm sure you would.
Absolutely.
I've been banging the baby drum for ages.
So my question to you is what's the most surprising and fulfilling thing you've learned
from your kids, especially we've seen you around X all the time with Trump.
So what's your most fulfilling thing you've learned from having kids? Yeah, X is in the back there.
So watching this hopefully. Yeah, I think nothing makes you happier than kids really,
is the truth of it. So, you know, kids are my greatest source of happiness.
And I really encourage, as Antonio knows, I've encouraged all my friends and everyone to have kids.
It is concerning.
You know, the United States has been below replacement rate.
The birth rate in the United States has been below replacement rate since roughly when
I was born, around 1970, 71, thereabouts.
And I think last year was the lowest birth rate on record.
It was very low.
And then we're seeing this trend in almost every country on Earth.
This is worrying because it's like, well,
if something doesn't happen, humanity is going to disappear.
So it's, I think, very important to have kids.
Kids will make you very happy, but there's also
like, we've got to keep humanity going here, you know?
No humans, no humanity.
It's like you... He's having lots of kids.
Sorry?
You practice what you preach, and...
Yeah, for sure.
And he tells all his friends to do it, too.
I can tell you that for sure.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, all right.
Thanks for coming.
My name's Adam. I'm a postal worker I'm
wondering if you could give some insight into some of the reforms or changes that
Doge might be looking at for the Postal Service well actually maybe perhaps I
could ask you what what what should judge be doing with respect to the
Postal Service I'll write you a letter. Okay, okay.
I suspect you've seen that things are not entirely perfect in the Postal Service.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, obviously, it's, you know,
delivering mail and packages is very important.
You know, there's reason for why the Postal Service was created.
But, and I haven't really had a chance to look at the Postal Service yet, but...
I have a little detail on the analysis if you want.
Do you do?
A little bit.
Okay, sure.
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say that. I want to be very general here.
But there is this thing about, you know, you could tell us.
Like, there's this thing about large volume users of postal service versus small volume
users, right?
So like some company, please.
I've heard of that, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you probably see it, right?
Like you see there are some companies in the world that use postal service a lot and
pay the same rate as everybody in this room that uses it a little bit.
Does that seem fair to you?
You see it on the front line.
I can't really say.
Well, he can't say because he works there.
Oh, you work there.
Okay.
Doesn't seem fair to me.
I don't work there.
So, I mean, there's a bunch of questions about this people are asking that I think are interesting in the analysis.
And when you look at the source of truth and the data and you make that transparent,
I think it's going to be obvious what the right answers are.
Yeah, it seems like some companies are not being charged the right
amount for package delivery.
And there's probably
more administrative overhead than there should
be, would be some safe guesses,
I suspect. Those are good guesses.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good guesses.
All right.
Elon, how are you? Yo, good.
How's it going?
It's Adam, your number one reply guy on X.
I'm here with Scott Presser.
It's good to finally meet in person.
Cool.
So I'm glad you like a lot of my stuff.
Yeah.
You're constantly replying to my stuff, liking my stuff.
And I love to create material because I'm a former Democrat myself, just like you.
Yeah.
And I want to help bring over moderate voters from the Democrat Party who are disenfranchised.
Yeah. And I'd love to be able to create more content to help you out, to help us win more elections,
to win the midterms of 2028, and on and so on.
Would I be able to get a follow-up
from your main, because you followed me from your old
cyber gamer? Oh, I did? Okay.
Yeah.
At this point,
yeah, sure, I'll
do that, sure.
I mean,
right now, I used to only follow maybe a few hundred accounts,
and it was possible to read most of what they posted.
But now I think I follow like 1,100 accounts, which makes it impossible.
So it's just like I can only see a few things that people post at random, essentially.
So, essentially. So yeah, but I'm trying to digest as much information as my human brain can manage.
So, but yeah, thank you for your engagement.
And just, you know, in general, like trying to report on what's really happening is great.
Mr. Musk, thank you so much for being here and bringing attention to what's going on
with our Supreme Court here.
It's very important, and I think it would have gotten
no attention, not even half of what it's getting now,
if you hadn't stepped in for good or bad,
the negative press and good press.
We thank you for that.
Exactly.
Totally.
Obviously, for any kind of special election, it's going to get a small fraction of the
attention of, say, a presidential election.
And then, you know, normally an election for a judge would not be that big of a deal.
It just so happens that in this case, it could decide the control of the U.S. House of Representatives,
which is, yeah, a huge deal.
And my personal experience with Judge Crawford, I am a family that she moved a pedophile right next to our home.
What? Really?
Yeah. It is a true story in the ads that you're hearing from Mr. Schimmel.
I am one of the homeowners that had to live next to him for many years, unaware.
So the letter that I wrote to her, I'm sure, played into what we're experiencing now in family court.
Family, we're veterans 20 years.
It just was not good for him.
It was not good for me.
And we're trying to work through our family court situation.
But what we're realizing is the two strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation.
are indoctrination or intimidation.
And if you step up and say,
we're practicing Catholic family,
the result is her band of Mary rogue judges
and the court affiliates and the commissioners
will flood the family court,
have flooded the family court system.
So I guess my question would be,
regardless of what happens with this very important vote,
let's not forget what's happening in the family court system
in Dane County, Wisconsin,
that's being flooded with these rogue judges and affiliates and commissioners
who then, if you don't subscribe to what they're saying,
they will just wipe out your ability to raise your family or proceed
with your family in a way that you feel. Your culture dictates, your religion dictates,
your financial background dictates. It has gone completely bananas. And I'm wondering what you
can do to keep the light shine on our court system in Dane County.
It does have a lasting effect on families and it will breed out our ability to raise our families
in the spirit in which we feel is most healthy for our young, our children, and the sanctity of our family.
our family.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think that's fundamental to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is the
foundation of America, that you should have control over your family, not the state.
The state should not have control over your family.
It's insane that people would think that.
So, yeah.
We've had friends have to escape California
because of this.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's literally had to leave
because the state tried to take their kids
because they're imposing the state's values on the kids,
and they literally had to leave overnight.
More than one friend, we've had this story.
Really?
Really?
Yeah, no, there's a thing, a change to law in California where if the teacher is determined that it's in the kid's interest,
like if you don't respect, like, you know, I don't know, 10-year-old's pronouns or something, the state can take your kid in California.
So it's insane.
You know, it's state-forced indoctrination,
and if you don't match their, you know,
whatever the state wants,
then they can take your kid in California.
It's a big deal.
It's a big deal with the government.
Yeah, exactly.
So it should just be, you know, families should have control over their own circumstances,
and it should not be the government that decides how your children should be raised.
Hey, Ylan.
My name is Josh.
There's a lot of questions, I see.
There it is.
We're going to answer everything at this point.
Please go ahead. Sorry, go ahead.
Thank you for taking the questions. There's a lot of people that agree.
So I was wondering, I noticed that there was another, a second Mechzilla being built at the Starbase.
Are we going to be go for launch for the Artemis mission coming up?
That's a very sort of space question. So there are
two towers in South Texas
and we're planning to build two towers at
the Cape in Florida. And then probably some more elsewhere in the future
but there'll be twin towers at the Cape in Florida. And then probably some more elsewhere in the future, but there'll
be twin towers at the Cape and twin towers in South Texas at Starbase.
Hey, Elon. Good to meet you. Thank you for everything you're doing for the country
and the world. Thank you. I have two questions. They asked me to keep it short.
Sure.
One, when do you envision solving blindness and bringing that to the masses, where it'll
be for everyone?
And the other is, is Robotex E on schedule?
Yeah.
Well, there's certainly a wide range of questions tonight.
Yes, so for Neuralink, we've actually had, Neuralink
has had in monkeys a working device we call blindsight,
where it's been working well and monkeys are healthy
for a few years now.
And we're hoping later this year
to do our first device implant for human enabling
someone who is completely blind to see.
It's going to be low res at first, like Atari graphics.
So I want to set expectations appropriately.
So it'll start off with very low res,
but then over time, I think eventually, the implant
would enable vision that is like superhuman.
So that would be pretty cool.
And then, yeah, I think they're currently on track to do unsupervised full self-driving
in Austin in June.
Thank you. self-driving in Austin in June.
So I think we probably will take maybe four more questions.
So just two from that side and two from that side.
And then we'll call it a night.
So go ahead.
Thank you so much.
First of all, you are beyond absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero.
So thank you so much for everything you're doing,
achieving, accomplishing.
You've done so many impossibles.
It is astonishing.
But my name is Brian Wright, and I've been filming
from last year all the way into this year
a docu-series on finding peace.
And during this election year, the episode was
how many lines do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace?
And I wanted to ask you, where do you feel like we are in this divide?
Are we so far divided as to where there's no coming back to the middle?
Or where do you see us being?
Yeah, we should restore the Smith-Mont Act
so that the government cannot spy or issue propaganda to the people.
So, yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction for a while there. And then in the last month or so, there have been these like crazy violent things happening
against Tesla and protesting me and whatnot.
And I'm like, this is just nuts.
And a lot of people sort of parading signs around saying that President Trump and Elon
Musk should die type of thing.
And I'm like, this is really nuts, you know.
But I think the real issue is, like, who's organizing and funding that?
Like, the same people that organized and funded the, you know, the infiltrators,
you know, the hecklers early at night.
So it's whoever they are, you know.
And I guess we know some of their names, but it's really, yeah, yeah,
Soros and a bunch of others.
I'm not sure really what, sometimes I wonder,
what is their goal, like what's their aim?
You know, I guess, is it communism, I guess,
is a part of it or just, I don't know.
Sometimes I wonder, is a part of it, or just, I don't know. Sometimes I wonder, like, have they thought through what their,
if they say they got their goal, then what, you know?
So, I don't know.
I'm hopeful that things calm down, that there's, you know,
we gauge, that people engage in, like, dialogue, but not violence.
And that, you know, if, for those who do push violence, people engage in dialogue but not violence.
And that for those who do push violence
and destruction of property and intimidation,
obviously they need to face legal consequences for that.
And the president has said that that needs to happen.
Obviously, if people are pushing violence and destruction of property, that is against
the law and they need to face the consequences of that.
So thank you.
Yeah.
Thank you, Elon.
I constantly hear that the Doge efforts are going to do things like take
away Social Security payments and reduce other government payments like that. You've touched
on it tonight, but can you state it? You've discussed it at length over the last few months,
but can you talk again about how the Doge efforts are actually going to affect things
like the payments and other programs like that?
Yeah, I guess it would be helpful because, so I can just state it as crisply and clearly
as possible, that Doge will absolutely ensure that people get their social security, make
sure they get their social security, make sure they get their Medicaid, and will not
be cutting any
legitimate payments whatsoever.
Crystal clear.
I will just add to this.
I've been there, working there, and I spent about the first three or four weeks of my
time in the Woodlands actually working in Social Security Administration.
100% when you're not saying it's true, nothing has happened on the ground
that would impact the level of payments going to people that legitimately are owed those
payments, period.
A lot is going to happen to people that are stealing from the system.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're not getting the payments.
And you know who's screaming?
They are.
Yeah.
Because they're committing fraud.
And we should take that away from them,
because they're stealing from all of us in this room and our parents.
And they're going to scream loud, and it's going to get louder.
But thank you for asking that question,
because it is something that, as obvious as it sounds,
it's a great question, because we just need to be very crisp and
clear. Doge will make sure you get your Social Security. Doge will make sure you get your
Medicaid. There will be no cuts to legitimate payments whatsoever.
I'd like to go last if it's okay with the other gentleman. Would you like to go, sir? Please go.
Thank you. Mr. Musk, thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin. I just want to thank you for calling
out bad ideas on X. You do that like every 30 minutes and if I don't see something, I'm like, wow, is Elon okay? Yeah.
Yeah.
And we all know that ideas of consequences and bad ideas have victims,
and thank you for speaking up for victims.
And a few nights ago when you spoke with Brett Baer when you were being interviewed,
and he asked you, what keeps you up at night?
And like that other question you answered
and you paused and it was depopulation and i was waiting for you to say like oh the death threats against my life or uh the national debt or but depopulation yes depopulation is something. Yeah, depopulation is a really big deal. It's not on people's radar.
Why is that?
Well, I think we haven't yet evolved
to deal with depopulation.
I guess it's something we better evolve to deal with
or we're gonna disappear.
And once the depopulation wall starts rolling,
it seems to gather up speed.
I mean, you can look at sort of cases like Korea and Japan,
which are much further ahead or behind,
depending on how you look at it.
But the population decline there is much worse.
Japan is in absolute population decline,
so they're losing about, I think, roughly a million people a year.
And that's going to accelerate.
Korea has only a third replacement rate,
which means that in three generations,
the country will be 3 or 4% of its current size.
Basically, all that will be left is a small portion of the capital city. So and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around, but it doesn't.
It seems like population collapse accelerates.
And that's why I think it's a very serious matter.
If you believe in humanity at all, you should care about this a lot.
And then, you know, that's sort of,
but that's the sort of long-term thing.
And the short-term thing is remaining,
is that America needs to be financially solvent.
You know, that's what Doge is about,
trying to just make sure America is financially solvent.
And then there's also the risks of AI. So we want to make sure that AI is maximally
truth-seeking and, you know, ideally has sort of values that most Americans would agree with, and that it's a pro-human AI, that it wants to foster the future of
humanity.
You know, those are the things that I think about.
So, thanks.
My name is Matt Haas, like Bonanza, Big Haas.
I own and operate a small business here in the Fox Valley.
And tomorrow I actually get the honor and the privilege to host Brad Schimmel at our shop, Springetti Landscaping.
If anyone's in the valley, come down.
4.30 tomorrow, we're having a shindig to have Brad stop by.
He's going to come and give a little speech.
That's what this was about, Brad's election.
So I just wanted to say, in your opinion, what is Brad going to do for small business
owners like myself?
Well, I think he's going to help get the government off your back.
So that's a big deal.
For anyone that starts a business, you know, it's like you used to just be able to open a store and not get like a zillion permits and licenses and everything.
You know, that's how America, you wanted to make a product, you just made the product.
And you didn't have to satisfy a massive body of regulations and get permission from all sorts of agencies.
So hopefully Justice Schimmel supports that
and helps get the government off your back.
All right.
So let me finish by saying, obviously...
He knows at the state level.
Yeah, those at the state level will be cool.
But just remember,
the importance of the election on Tuesday is gigantic.
It could decide the future of the House of Representatives.
It could decide then the future of America and the future of the world.
So it's absolutely critical that you really, you need to just drag friends and family to vote on Tuesday for Justice Schimmel and for voter ID. So thank you.
Thank you, guys.
All right. Thank you.
