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EOS X Lounge: Share What You’re Building in Web3 🛠️
Recorded: May 22, 2024 Duration: 1:21:01Space Recording
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All right. We're going to get going in just a second.
Just give it a moment for some people to join in.
And then, yeah, we'll kick it off.
All right. Brandon's here. Let's bring him up.
Hey, Brandon, you should be able to speak now.
I can hear you. Is it the right microphone?
Who's like it? Excellent. Excellent.
We got Myra in the audience, Zerok, Kunitor.
Probably going to pronounce some of these names wrong.
Names in crypto are not easy to pronounce, I've noticed.
Myra, I'm liking your new profile pic. Very cool.
I'm just going to push out a little announcement around our Telegram channels.
We can jump into some conversation.
Excellent. Yeah.
So I guess this is the third installment here of the EOS X bases.
And we're going to keep it going and see if we can get some momentum growing.
So thanks for everyone that's showing up.
And go ahead and retweet and let other folks know this conversation is happening.
So we can fill up the room if we can.
Not only let people know, but also, you know, request to speak and become a part of this conversation if you want.
I'd love if people, you know, put their hands up and are like, hey, I want to talk.
Yeah, definitely.
And these conversations kind of casual.
If you guys have something you want to talk about.
Honestly, EOS related or not.
Like if you're just like, let's talk about what Bitcoin is doing.
That's fine.
Or if you have some project you're building and you want to come up and share it with the class.
Also amazing.
So feel free to just, you know, put up your hand, hit request to speak and we'll bring you up.
That's right.
Yeah.
Unlike telegram and other places, you have to actually take action to speak.
So don't hesitate to raise that hand.
And we'll bring you on stage.
And yeah.
Did you manage to shoot out some extra?
I did.
I've sent it around and we actually just had a Momoshi request to speak.
You should be, you should be able to speak now, Momoshi, if you want.
Mic check.
Hi, guys.
Thanks for joining.
How's it going?
Hi, it's going really good.
I'm from Turkey, Istanbul.
Oh, wow.
I am joining here to meet you guys.
That's awesome.
And just meet you guys and just kind of get the conversation going on.
Like, I don't know what to say.
That's okay.
What are you doing in the Web3 space?
Are you just, you know, an enthusiast or are you involved in any projects?
I am an enthusiast.
I am doing projects.
I am, I did my thesis on it.
Oh, wow.
And I'm a huge, I've been, I'm not a big coiner.
I was a light corner.
I'm a huge, I would say I'm a huge nerd.
That's what I can call myself.
A big company, yeah.
That's awesome.
It's a, it's good.
It's good in a way that I can understand what I'm talking about.
But sometimes I, I read about EOS.
Are you the actual EOS?
EOS.
Yes.
Oh my God.
Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
I'm good to meet you.
I'm Liam.
I'm personally not, not EOS.
We're all EOS.
Oh my God.
But yes, we work at the EOS Network Foundation.
So we're the foundation elected by the block producers, which are elected by the token holders
to essentially be stewards of the network and maintain the software stack, fund public goods,
handle communications.
And we're one of a few entities that kind of carry out that sort of function or, or functions
on behalf of token holders in the ecosystem.
Brandon, is there, did I miss anything there?
Oh, there's nothing missing.
And there's a gift book and there's everything about it.
And it's, it's really innovative and it's, it's something that it's distributed network
ledgers.
And that's what I like about it because without any collaboration, there's nothing.
And that's what I want to kind of creatively kind of get into my project.
It's, it's, it's about purple witches.
It's kind of creative NFTs within, um, artistic utility, uh, where it gives you a sense of,
um, when you need to go to sleep and you can go to sleep and you're insomniac.
Um, I will give you low-fi hip hop.
Nice.
With purple witches swimming underwater with betta fishes.
And there's going to be a story telling and there's going to be podcasts.
And it's coming up.
Awesome.
I was listening to low-fi music right before this call to try and get through a task that
I had to complete.
Yes.
There's like so many, uh, frequencies.
I'm researching it during my project.
It's, it gets you in a, like a really, uh, a calm mode.
And I'm trying to understand those frequencies.
I, I, I did play piano, uh, for a long time, so I, I kinda can do it, but, um, I'm trying
to research it.
It's, it's, it amazes me that it challenges me and it helps people who are insomniac because
everybody's sleeping there and you're just awake and you don't know what to do with yourself.
And you don't want to, you want to be quiet.
You don't want to make any sounds.
You want to be respectful.
So what do you do?
So what do you do?
You're just like, you're like a sculpture.
You're like, okay.
And then.
Yeah.
Sorry.
It's.
I resonate with the people who are insomniac.
I feel like this whole industry is insomnia, insomniacs.
Like web three never sleeps, you know, web three never sleeps.
And we got to tire them out to game, game finance.
We got to tire them out.
Cause it's so adrenaline.
They're constantly minting.
They're constantly like click, click, click, click, click.
Oh my God.
All the time.
Totally.
So do you have any NFTs of your, your own that are, are live in your.
I have my ladies and I have.
Spirtos.
Nice.
I'm kind of the, um, lady makers and mods.
Cool.
What are you in?
Um, on my end, uh, it's funny, we don't have too many NFTs.
Currently on the, um, on the EOS network.
Um, we get a bunch of, let's say my, uh, EOS NFT collection.
If I'm talking about EOS is like a lot of the theory, this project called Pomelo, that
was, uh, quadratic funding, uh, platform in our ecosystem.
And they had all these little astronaut NFTs.
So I have a lot of Pomelo astronauts.
Um, and, uh, outside of EOS, I collected a lot of, uh, metal labels, NFTs when they drop
things and stuff like that.
And stuff like that.
But, uh, yeah.
So is it, is it like, is, is the NFTs are like whimsical?
Like, is it, is it nice?
Does it make you feel good?
They do.
Yeah.
I do like them.
Um, one of my other favorite artists in our ecosystem, kind of adjacent to EOS is big
GUI.
And he, uh, is, his art's all like pixel art, which is very, super fun.
Um, and, uh, yeah.
It's so hard to do it.
Brandon, what would, what would you think are some of the top NFT, uh, collections in
the EOS ecosystem?
We don't really, we're really kind of like that area.
I definitely think it's going to be, uh, oh my God.
I am so biased, but it's, my thing is meme coins and meme coins in general.
All the ones are going to be legends.
All the ones.
I think I'm biased.
I'm a meme coiner.
I am biased.
It's not like there's the only, I can't say crypto punks.
Okay.
Now it's crypto punks, but like, they're going to get, they're going to be so worn out from
any kind of content, but meme coins is community.
Everybody's doing the same thing.
Everybody's working for the same thing.
It's like, uh, building a pyramid.
Almost everybody did within collaboration and look what they did.
They build a pyramid.
Oh, I'm not saying pyramid as like a, uh, in a, in a subliminal sense.
I'm saying in a way that when there's collaboration, like you can make pyramid in a really antique,
uh, ages, people can do whatever they put their mind into within collaboration.
And what I see crypto punks is everywhere.
I see Frank is doing so good.
I hear Frank all the time with the gods.
They did so good in a way that they're so genuine.
I'm not going to show them, but I've been here for a long time.
What I can say, he was transparent.
He was, he was like, he was not like Polly.
He was not like Polly at all.
He, Polly was just like going at it.
I understand Polly was saying something really rational as well, but it's not what you say.
It's how you say it.
So Polly was kind of like weird, but in the sense like the gods was giving us like a sense of sympathy and calmness and giving us trust to actually invest it.
And so I focused on, in a way, in a social engineering aspect of it, and then, uh, really see the generations of how we're really transforming.
It's so great.
We never give up.
We fucking never give up.
We never give up.
We evolve from our dust.
It's crazy.
And that's what really gets me the adrenaline from.
Oh, it's not a recorded space.
I'm sorry.
I don't think they're all recorded.
Yeah, it's okay.
Um, well, that's something we definitely have in common is we never give up.
Um, EOS never gives up.
And yeah, the, I'm not familiar.
I'm not familiar.
It's super familiar with a lot of the people that you're referencing.
Um, in the main coin scene is basically crypto, uh, community.
And they're the ones to basically collaborate and get the ERC 404.
I know it's not really 404.
It's not really successful, but within collaboration of ERCs, there was another something innovative, innovative, something evolved.
And it's called ERC 404.
I know it's not really good at this time, but I am so hopeful to see people collaborating their powers together.
And then do something innovative again.
Cool.
Yeah.
I've heard a little bit about ERC 404.
Definitely not my domain of expertise, but, um, yeah, I love, I love all the innovation and different forms and that are coming out, especially for containing all this digital art.
Um, and I'm thinking about NFT stuff, um, um, EOS has kind of lagged on NFT, um, creation and we, we have atomic hub and, um, which we share in common with wax as well.
so mostly the nft standard on eos is atomic hub and then there's also simple assets
um so where's the assets coming from usually like um is it from i want to go into eos so
yeah here i'll share let's see if i can find a link um if you go to eos.atomichub.io
that'll be a good place to start um i will go ahead and find a one of their there was like a
just trading it's not something you cannot it's not like plate to earn or like nfts it's not like
something like that now there's like like i said eos is kind of like late to the game on nfts um
we kind of had all the ingredients for it it just didn't really take off on eos i guess our focus
was elsewhere and um there are some really innovative nft projects launching um using eos or
eosio rather antelope tech but um yeah we're kind of in an interesting space now um with ram
so ram is ram is like thank you so much for letting me speak by the way yeah i'm gonna make my research
uh venome foundation uh i'm gonna go through the crypto rank right now and then make my research
thank you love joy i followed you and yeah everyone it's nice to meet you yeah great to
meet you too and um feel free to jump back in if you want i'm gonna share a link and uh i'm just
gonna pin it to the chat here for you and anybody else who wants to to learn more about yours and
connect deeper with the community you can come to our uh join our telegram group and uh it should be
let me see share in space how do i do this technology well should be shared at the top
somewhere there yeah it shows up in the banner slider thing you go up to the banner and flip
through there's something that says toxic community conversations when we host a weekly event on
telegram so feel free to join there as well memoshi and hopefully we'll chat with you more soon
yeah i love the name memoshi by the way that's a great name um thank you thank you hey we got
andrew here andrew as a call feel free to request to speak and i'll i'll bring you up
and yeah anyone that wants to chime in go ahead and request to speak see troy nat
idnos idnos x is that some play on nas x maybe john feel free to jump in if you are so inclined
i pulled up my uh nfts brandon after we were chatting about it i was like what do i have on
on eos on the tom i totally forgot about the whole uh eos community nft project the eos moments you
know all the like oh yeah i've got a lot of those and uh also nfts are like moments of your life too
it's not like it's not just something that you monetize it's something that comes from you
uh genuinely and you go back and then you're like oh my god i was i was drawing this and then now
it's like oh my god i am actually so better okay my mind works if you really you really see your
growth within your nfts as well it's not just monetization it's all aspects of your life that is
putting together in a pot and then thrown on a canvas it's like that totally a bit of a time
capsule i'm i'm scrolling through my nft collection right now on eos and seeing um we used nfts for
membership for a community so everyone's got their like headshot um so we've all got so it's kind of
cool i can see everybody from the community that that uh from those days it's kind of like scroll
back through memory lane kind of fun andrew's up here now hey andrew how's it going
one of us howdy how's it going yo good to hear you i don't uh i don't really have anything specific
but i just thought i'd say i thought i'd say hey nice see ya
all right get out of here andrew no just kidding um
hey what are you doing up here
stop hogging the mic and kick me out if you need to
not at all with a with a voice like that we can't we can't remove you
it's would be criminal i love your pfp it's it's unbelievably so good
i can't i'm like i i was drinking my i was drinking my martini and i'm like i was choking on
it fog man and you got a blue thick on it yes elon musk this is perfect
hi andrew nice to meet you i followed you yeah good to meet you too that's not my real hair
but it is my real mustache that's your real mustache okay i have
two questions i have so many questions but i'm going to ask you two questions
sure number one
how do you drink milk
i don't generally drink milk but uh straws are very helpful for
things like like uh smoothies that kind of thing
okay number two it could be a personal question
codes of ethics i apologize beforehand what is your uh your partner or your
girlfriend think about this uh mustache
uh my wife is actually a big fan of it that's the reason why i have it
i shaved it as a joke and he was like oh you should keep that
i'm like all right
he had to grow it back
perfect dedication that works so well
it's nice to have that kind of support you know
yeah yeah she won't she accepts you the way you are but like oh my god
doesn't even itch like fuck man
that it's not not too bad actually
andrew is the best i wouldn't know i'm judging you i apologize but
that was the only quite two questions thank you
all good appreciate the questions
yeah i mean uh facial hair is uh i don't want to say you know
um a requirement in the eos ecosystem because we have people without facial
hair but there's a lot of facial hair i feel like in our
community at least uh you know amongst the the guys
people who can grow facial hair
well yeah i mean the ceo
that means yes is not growing facial hair is that what it means
no our c the ceo of the eos network foundation is
all actually known as big beard and samurai
and if you look at his
yeah yeah so we've got
kind of like hogwarts or like
yeah we got big beard front and center
i think i think i shared one of his tweets but i'll share another one of his tweets so you can
click your way there
it's crazy like
they um they have to clean their hair and they have to clean their um
mustache and their um
yeah face
and so long how the fuck
can that happen
it's crazy to me
i'm sorry i'm questioning really useless things it could be a really
informative conversation here as a recorded space guys
i'm bullish on
what do you say
i say i love i love every person equally i respect but come on man
there's always a but
um yeah
we got one more person up here just requested to speak uh
idnas or idnas
welcome
idnas x
i don't know i feel like i want to pronounce the x
but maybe you can tell us
is the x silent
idnas
idnas
idnas
is he hearing us
maybe not
sometimes when you switch from listener to speaker there's like a little
break in the audio so
oh yeah
it usually doesn't last as long but
feel free to unmute and jump in if you want
idnas
yeah
did you guys uh
here it's uh it's pizza day today isn't it bitcoin pizza day
well i'll be darned it is
now i feel like i need to go get a pizza
yeah
i got sicilian
like
mixed
hello everyone do you hear me
ah we do
yeah hello
oh sorry for my english it's not
maybe perfect because i'm from belgium but
i just have a question
thank you
hi to belgium i'm from turkey
yeah nice to meet you
i just have a question for
for the ears because
i just
don't understand
how it's possible for the prices
everything
move
everything move
uh eve says
many things on twitter and
nothing move on the prices
i hold
eos now
four years or five years
i don't understand what's happening
on the prices
price is usually not a good indicator of the
you know
health of an ecosystem
i find
yes of course
you know
investors
people
in the crypto space in general
love to
watch price
talk price
and see things move
how much did you invest
yeah yeah yeah but i understand
i understand
i i do crypto
many years now
i understand that
but the move
it's very very very
input
doesn't exist
like
you see
if la rose
made
a lot of
tweets
and nothing
nothing
nothing move
that's
unbelievable
is it a problem
anywhere
aware
because
are you
familiar with the new tokenomics proposal
that is
being
contemplated right now
yeah
the atsh
it's
22 dollar
i think
it's something like that
and we are like
one dollar
what's happening
i don't believe anymore
on eos
i feel bad
i have
it's a long winding
it's a long winding story
but we're in the midst of a
pretty epic comeback
right now
you should
you should read up on the
tokenomics proposal
that's going through
there's going to be a
an msig put up
cap the supply
of eos
one thing right now
is that eos
been inflating
at three percent
per year
basically
and no one ever really knew it
but we have a
billion
total max supply
currently
so the new tokenomics
proposal
would
would change the max supply
billion
instead of this
inflation
coming out of
basically
it's like compound
annual inflation
is what's happening
right now
three percent
so one percent
is going to
the block producers
two percent
is going
between the
eos network
foundation
and eos labs
and so this new
tokenomics proposal
would cap the supply
at 2.1
billion
it would
mint the difference
between where we
we're at now
and the 2.1
put those in buckets
basically vesting
for 24 years
on a halving schedule
so that's going to
release
to fund
staking
rewards
to fund
the eos network
foundation
to fund
so ui
ui and ux
development
that's what you're saying
well i'm saying
we've kind of been
in a really weird
space
i mean
to really answer your question
i have to tell
like the long
winding tale
i'm trying to avoid that
but um
suffice it to say
like you know
eos is the only
layer one blockchain
that i'm aware of
that
it didn't launch
with a foundation
it didn't launch
with um
it's like stewards
of the network
kind of broke up
with the
entity
the founding entity
that
that
developed the software
and the community
essentially took control
of the network
forked the code base
antelope
code base
eos network
foundation engineers
have been
developing that
code base
and now we're
moving on to
some new
tokenomics
so a bit of a
reform
currently
underway
at the same time
you should
keep an eye
on the ram
system
right now
we've got
eos is kind
of unique
in the blockchain
space
also in that
we have
a ram
which is like
a decentralized
state
essentially
decentralized
memory
so like a
dpin or
decentralized
physical
infrastructure
so when you
own eos ram
you own
kind of a piece
of real estate
that is
memory
on this
distributed
network
in december
passed
an msig
to stop
inflation
of ram
which had
been
inflating
since
i don't know
for five years
and so
as soon as
the inflation
stopped
a lot of
interest
kind of
returned
to ram
as this
kind of
foundational
element
of the
network
hold on
a second
opened my
door
i need
to fix
that
yeah
the cats
are listening
so i guess
i'm just
trying to
illustrate
that
don't
don't
don't
lose
hope
on eos
we just
a few
setbacks
but um
there's
a very
motivated
very
galvanized
community
uprising
currently
underway
and a
lot of
interest
you'll
notice
actually
one of
things
i shared
up above
is kind
inching
let's
see here
and get
to it
i think
honestly
if i
buy the
project
first
love it
just
afraid
when
burn
percent
prices
percent
down
that
just
that
kind
things
make
a little
problem
investor
because
it's
serious
when
have
like
vitalik
never
things
like
says
understand
what
mean
what's
serious
about
think
lost
a lot
credibility
look
every
comments
everything
mean
just
take
exception
characterization
the burn
the 80
percent
burn
as opposed
just
reducing
total
supply
supply
what
what is
disagree
with
just
trying
understand
repeat
please
well you
said he
lost
credibility
but i
don't
really
understand
what
lost
credibility
because
everything
he says
everything
he do
on twitter
like
publish
like
event
like
marketing
communication
years
everything
goes down
stop it
yeah
yeah
lost
credibility
from
people
lost
credibility
from
credibility
from
what
what's
credibility
what
is it
just
just
just read
just read
the things
he writes
on twitter
i don't
really
follow
we're
we're
actually
going ahead
with
everything
that's
been
said
everything
tweeted
about
actually
coming
i think
i think
we need
more
more
credibility
whoa
what is
that
because
yeah
yeah
credibility
guys
because
the market
like
the market
you don't
have any
more credibility
for people
okay
go to
binance
in what
sense
and go
trade there
like
what are
you doing
here
you're
here
well
i'm just
curious
because
what do
you mean
because i
have
because
have
don't
blame
on us
i hate
these
kind
people
because
because
hate
people
they're
like
losing
they're
coming
here
then
they're
just
like
it's
not like
fucking
hating
something
hating
i don't
i don't
be angry
i'm sorry
no need
i'm honest
yeah
no so
i get it
so like
i have
i have
more than
from eos
and i
have more
like i
seen
lost
i buy
deep
i buy
deep
i buy
deep
and you
see like
twitter
from eve
you see
twitter
from eve
you see
twitter
from all
company
from all
but nothing
moves
well
no we don't
have a
discord
right now
telegram
we're
we're on
telegram
underscore
global
currently
where the
party's
and we
have a
chat there
tomorrow
if anyone
wants to
come by
i'll talk
with you
guys
but i
it's not
like it's
it's not
good like
go to
telegram
with this
shit
you know
what i'm
saying
like just
just go
go go
to dms
we're trying
to fucking
fuck this
shit up
well i
think um
i think
we're gonna
have an
answer for
what you
perceive as
lack of
credibility
i mean
i can
already answer
right now
in terms of
eos credibility
as a
as like a
battle tested
layer one
blockchain
that's been
up and running
non-stop for
five plus years
now like
two thousand
some days
we're
you know
technologically
speaking i
don't think
there's any
you know
issues no
one can
really come
after eos on
a technological
front um
we lost a
step or two
when we had
a bit of a
internal
battle you
know we
we lost
um we
lost a few
steps when
um they
who shall
not be
named
ran off
with a
giant treasury
and we
haven't had
a massive
treasury since
then so
um what's
kind of
happening
right now
is a bit
of a
reboot
on eos
and i
think you're
going to
see the
results of
that pretty
soon
i just want
to jump in
and also say
as the you
know moderator
of this event
that nothing
said on this
financial advice
investing in
crypto assets
is extremely
dangerous and
no one on
the eos
network foundation
or any leader
within the
eos ecosystem
will ever
recommend that
you purchase
eos you make
your own
financial decisions
and um now
i'll step away
from that and
just say that
because of that
and because we
can't actually be
speaking about
price um and
even beyond that
just my own
personal sort of
beliefs within
the web 3
space um is
that like there
are so many
more valuable
metrics to be
looking at when
it comes to
actually measuring
the health of
an ecosystem um
and if you look
at things like
our you know
uh github
commits right
or the projects
that have launched
on the ecosystem
within the past
six months
to a year
right
um look at
things like
the most recent
report from
asari on the
eos ecosystem
and all of
the in-depth
data analysis
that they do
that they've
done there
um there's a lot
of things to be
optimistic about
right now
and uh so
again i think
like just
looking at
price and
reacting to
price is
actually uh
one of the
ways that i've
seen a lot of
projects fail
in the space
right because
they're oh
price is going
down i gotta
do this or
do this as
opposed to
thinking what
is the problem
we're trying
to solve
and um
and uh
and how are
we going to
achieve that
and get there
over a long
term uh
you know
macro uh
timeline and
uh as far as
i'm concerned
and as far as
what i've seen
um you know
eos has
continued to
grow steadily
with its
community with
the amount
of development
going on
um all these
really important
things that you
want to see
within a
healthy ecosystem
economy and
society
right
so again
it's like
i think
it's it's an
oversimplification
to just look
at price
and then say
you know
why not
go up
and uh
one thing
that i'll
just share
here in the
space
is the
recent
massari report
here
let me see
if i can pull
that up
yeah
pin that to
the top
here
new address
is up
115 percent
in q1
revenue
was up
three
80 percent
eocvm tvl
was up
10 percent
so there are
a lot of
you know
things to be
optimistic about
i think
i would
dive deeper
into that
report
if you're
interested
in looking
closer there
and then
again
i'll just
say like
as a
as a
general
mindset
thing
in the
space
we need
to be
working
towards
finding
finding
ways
to measure
impact
impact
metrics
very
important
i think
we go
blind
looking at
looking at
price
consistently
not just
as not
just not
just saying
that as
i'm saying
that as
an entire
industry
right
as opposed
to thinking
about
where
are the
products
and the
resources
that are
being used
creating
the most
impact
and how
can we
continue
to create
you know
more
impact
yeah
not financial
advice
people don't
don't
don't invest
in in
in crypto
assets
more than
you're
willing to
lose
that is
dangerous
and i don't
think
i've ever
seen
guys
guys it's
not that i
know that
notice and
it's not
losing money
the problem
the problem
is price
is saying
how much
investor
you have
that's
the reason
real
so you
say a lot
of things
but on
true you
don't have
investor
and before
on last
years before
you have a lot
of market
so you lost
a lot of
money on
the market
you lost
a lot of
investor
that just
i'm telling
prices and
lost money
it's my
problem
it's not
yours
so i
know that
i can
i can
buy i can
sell
no problem
for i'm
just asking
how it's
possible to
go to
22 dollars
to to
one dollar
so i guess
you is
on this
on this
bull
on this
bull run
on this
bull market
so let's
pivot
the place
and the place
and the place
had had
before
years
with now
it's too
too too
that's
that's
incredible
that's
just
saying
saying
something
like
don't
because
lost
money
i have
money
it's
a problem
money
i know
if i buy
and if
i sell
again
just
how it's
incredible
to to
to lost
that much
investor
i would
let's
change
topic
okay
with
this
welcome
i was
going to
during
that
last
topic
we had
a bunch
other
people
requested
speak
i'd love
to hear
from
them
i'm not
sure
like it's
cube based
right now
welcome
yeah
together
at first
it was
really
it's
very
interesting
it's
the first
time
i really
understand
blockchain
i still
believe
that's
reason
built
platform
on it
it's
called
cube
based
still
development
there's
prototype
already
out there
that
can be
tested
example
yeah
i use
i use
interlob
framework
crypto
network
media
like
videos
pictures
stored
i don't
know
i have
problem
something
i will
goodbye
thank
all right
sorry
cubase
cubase
is kind
well
in us
if you
want to
hang
around
i think
you're
getting
a nice
testimony
from
somebody
who's
actually
developer
also
i was
going to
that
that
thing
when i
got on
soapbox
for a
second
there
i'll
never
tell
anyone
token
because
that's
irresponsible
even
sorry
but the
thing
i will
tell
people
build
would
really
love
more
builders
calipers
within
your
ecosystem
i really
love
technology
and i'm
also happy
that
they're still
developing
because at
first i
used really
only the
frog
sheathed
from
yeah
from
and then i
found out
okay there's a new one
antelope and of course then i use this one right now
because there are still um improvements and that's pretty nice
um yeah so currently i um the project is running well but i'm searching
someone who understands more uh of smart contracts than me about this because i built
a smart contract uh that is working fine but um actually i need a little bit
more help for someone who have a deeper look at this so i also want to
yes when did you launch um actually there's uh no no fixed date now yeah but um i would
say uh in the end of this year or beginning of next year so this is the um the goal that
i said so is your project is it cube based is that what the project's called as well
yes yes yes it's uh it's cube based uh dot com actually and it's it's built in
flutter if you know this so that's also a pretty nice technology so that you just have
one code base and can um deploy native apps in all almost every uh platform that's out
there like android and ios or windows app also cool and also that's um the actually main thing that i
concentrate right now that it's running on android and in in web because this is um yeah of course
the the biggest user base yeah totally that makes sense that's really cool so what's your
what's like the give give us the elevator pitch what's the your base is trying to solve or what
is it ah yes yeah sure sure um so one special um thing in this uh or in this platform is that um
um it's it's it's decentralized of course the thing is it's clear um so there is uh no uh government
or no institute that can um try to to block content so like if you have facebook or you have instagram
or any other uh company that runs like a platform image image board where it's it's the handling is
like tiktok if you try it so then then you will see it it's a kind of this so that you're swiping or
youtube shorts i think this is uh can be the the thing that's that's going on also is um yeah almost
every big application here something like like this right now this is swiping and yeah the image and
videos you can swipe on and uh the the with the report system so of course uh this may be a content
that's um not measurable with bar it's it's against the rules then um there are selected trust us or
people who um are elected to um to vote about this this content is really uh against the law against
the rules that's out there and it's it's always our odd number so like seven or five so there's always
and they have a time slot of 24 hours so 24 hours a half and um if it's get get later than this then
the content gets not deleted
looks really cool i'm on the site right now it looks really cool um one thing i wanted to ask
though is do you have plans to integrate like an anchor wallet login or um token pocket or one of the
eos wallet logins because a lot of people aren't going to be comfortable putting in a private key
actually i i would love to do this but currently i don't know if this is possible if it's possible to
implement this in flutter because um yeah it's you say one another in flutter in flutter yes that's
the framework it's from from google it's uh yeah oh the framework that's uh is running on this
i see yeah are you in the um antelope developer chat that would be a good place to ask i am yes i am
yeah they have on tuesdays they have their uh they give like a telegram conversation let me find the
time for that uh tuesdays at three eastern um and usually nathan's there so i'd encourage you to join
join that voice chat when it happens and ask nathan i'm sure he'd be able to help you figure that out
um so you you mean if i have questions about how i can properly solve problems in my contract then he
probably can help you with this he definitely would yeah okay yeah nathan james he's the head of dev rel
and um he uh he hosts this voice chat this developer round table in the antelope developers telegram
that's the the that would be at antelope devs on telegram and uh every tuesday at 3 p.m eastern so
um actually i yeah i already um wrote him but he didn't answer but uh it was a dm so well but
probably it's the best when i joining this um yeah try joining that thing that's uh is more useful of
course then he also um if you're in the eos global telegram group we have our community chat tomorrow
at uh also at 3 p.m eastern and um he's usually around there so you could always show up there too
and i'm sure he'd he'd be happy to sort of help you figure out some stuff yeah we're in the midst of
like a huge tokenomics revamp and i know he's deep in that too so don't um he's usually pretty good
good about getting back to people eventually but right yeah right now we're all pretty heads down
in this tokenomics revamp so um but yeah joining one of these voice chats and talking also i don't
know if you're you you're probably familiar with wharf kit the uh it's the javascript framework or what
it is yeah it's the um something eos antelope sdks so it's um let's see if i can unfortunately their
twitter account has just been permanently suspended so i can't really share the twitter link but
it's wharf kit.com um like w h a r f k i t dot com modular sdk for antelope web apps so like if you
uh want to set up a session key or some way for people to like sign in um authorize certain transactions
um that they don't have to like repeatedly authorize they can just authorize for the whole session
um that's pretty cool so then they can look in the code or what do you know i mean like yeah well
like say you have a user i mean somebody brought up an example recently of like a like a shooter game
um they're showing like every every every time like they shoot is like an action on the chain but you
don't want to have to have the user click authorize every time they want to shoot so you can sign
a session key and you can the user can authorize that type of action for the entire time that they're
logged in let's say so that when they click the button it can still happen on chain but they don't
have to like authorize that type of action repeatedly again and again um so it's one it's one way that um
yeah this i definitely encourage you to look into wharf and there's also like a telegram channel too
there aaron cox the lead developer there is very good helping with questions and stuff i like your
project and do you mean i can do this with the sdk or what do you mean yeah it is talking about sdk
right yeah yep exactly wharf wharf kit is the sdk for antelope um right now we went without an sdk
or as any sdk is of any anything substantial for a really long time so it's pretty exciting
one uh special thing is also that you can uh earn money with this later of course if you uh get
voted or the content that you upload is what product although it's it's upvoted then you can
so this is the plan you can do this later of course you can change this against any any other currencies
cryptocurrencies or fiat money or something like this also the trust of people who google this
get rewarded of course for their work cool pretty nice yeah like i like it so far what i'm seeing here
um yeah i'd just say that one i mean i would um yeah just like having people authenticate through a
wallet that they're already trusting as opposed to like putting the private key in on a website would
be the main barrier to entry that i see but other than that this looks really cool but i hope you don't
use firefox don't you because i actually i found out today that it's it's not on firefox there are
some problems so if you if it's not running well on web then chrome that's the best yeah i'm on brave
currently um right based in chromium so but yeah you can also create account if you want test account
uh if you are interested without without a private key uh it's in private keys generated locally on your
browser and then it's uh there's one an ip oh click sign up then you can create an account ah i see i
clicked sign up and now it's taken me to this whole other create account thing
interesting interesting also a captcha of course yes i see the capture the bots not always yeah
it's a funny it's a funny capture yeah it's memes it's actually it's cool that always another meme pops out
interesting oh interesting so you're creating eos accounts
you're creating an antelope account on the chain yes the chain that they're running oh you're running a
private chain yes yes yes yes exactly ah super cool interesting very good demonstration of how to use
antelope tech so how do you view this as integrating with eos or any other um
of the antelope chains or will it just be a standalone private chain what's your vision for that
uh i would hope that i can uh do an exchange later on or that the token can be exchanged
uh something like this or also that um the the development of the antelope framework is um get support
also so i think that it's also um pretty important so it's of course it's it's kind of a no it's it's a
fog of the fog of the chain currently um of the of the eos of the main net of course
um but i think that it's um also possible to um to work together to to bring this in the yeah
later this projects um get big off something like this
uh yeah super cool i mean well i mean it's impressive that you just spun up a instance of
antelope uh leap whatever you're running five probably um to begin with not a lot of people
are even capable of doing that so very cool there's some other interesting projects running private
instances of yes is there any that you can recommend to look look at well i mean the first one that
comes to mind is is is shintai um they're using they're using antelope for rwas so they have like a
private um version of the blockchain running on their own network and then they they can um
uh interoperate with all the other chains as well um so that's kind of cool but they're
they have to for compliance reasons they need to be not on a you know not running their core business
logic on a uh on a permissionless public ledger essentially but they can use permissionless public
ledgers for certain aspects of their operations so that's kind of cool like a hybrid approach
um so it's actually for companies right yeah shintai yeah shintai is a company
using using antelope uh well i i mean the the um that's the user base the companies
or is this the main um or is this also for for normal people to use um yeah i actually think they're
are developing something for retail investors and stuff um on their platform they have kind of
i'll let you go down the shintai rabbit hole you'll have to check check them out there like at shintai.com
or io or whatever but um i don't want to plug them too hard here today but um it's an it's an
interesting project um worth looking at and um yeah i just like the idea of public the the public
slash private chain sort of thing and i think with um upcoming changes uh introducing instant finality
and this new consensus algorithm um with the next with the coming hard fork that we're headed towards in
late july um we're moving a little closer to this sort of horizontal scalability of the network um
through side chains so that's going to be really interesting um because through ibc interblock chain
communication um and instant finality you theoretically don't need to worry about um like latency or
throughput issues on side chains anymore depending on who the validators of the side chain are and how
that's all incentivized i think that's kind of the tricky part to work out is who's going to run the
side chains you know are they going to be the same operators running the main uh net or how it's gonna
like the economic uh part of that is probably the trickier part at this point but that remains to be
seen i just find it fascinating
horizontal scalability that is
but uh yeah really cool um you should yeah come on our other chat tomorrow if you can on telegram and
um yeah i'd love for you to connect with nathan james and
show him what you're working on so uh nathan is from the um the else foundation right yep he's the
director of developer relations yeah at the eos network foundation so if you've been going to
docs.eosnetwork.com that's that's his domain which i can probably share a link somewhere
um all our documentation and so forth is living there for the most part
let's see here
are you familiar with dweb also or um bbs network because they've taken another interesting approach
which is they're running they're doing all their accounts like through smart contract on
so they're creating virtual accounts essentially and they're using oh yeah um dweb let's see i think
it's al herzog and dweb let me see it's been a while since i've been to their website
or yeah so if you go to dweb.io d-e-w-e-b.io
this is a really cool model um
they've way they've got this set up is yeah developers and operators and marketers so
essentially they've got people that are kind of functioning like
hmm i mean the operator is functioning like the custodians of the smart contract but all the data
is written to chain it's just on um it's through virtual accounts so you don't have to worry about
creating accounts and managing permissions and all that stuff and they have social login they have a
mobile app now their their main kind of use case for this right now is the bbs network um
let me find the address to that but i just watched an interview with a ali of the day
and he's apparently partnered with somebody and they're going to launch i don't know if it's going
to be another version of bbs network or something bigger but it's kind of another media
app where they you can do video responses and things to other people let me see here
i can find it for you yeah bbs network.io
um yeah check out how they're doing it very interesting yep so this is basically built on dweb
essentially which is this idea of like um yeah there's also like a really cool old interview
we did with al i'll try to find that one share it too we'll get an idea what he's about
actually liam i wonder if al is going to be at um consensus anyone going to consensus this year
coming up next week already
and if anyone wants to chat i haven't been paying too much attention to the
boxes but if you request to speak guys yeah throw your hand up speak if you want
otherwise we're just here talking to ourselves into cube based so based
um it's it's funny that the cto of bbs network had only only shaved the half half of his head
uh did you see a picture somewhere on that it's always a good uh good sign when the cto is kind
of crazy oh yeah yeah yeah israel levin yeah yeah yeah so that's al herzog and
well it's funny he's pictured it just like loops again and again it's like the team is bigger than it
is but it's just the same people over and over again um yeah al herzog from basically a bank whore
so kind of an og in the crypto space
he's always up to something
i'm gonna find that old interview we did on youtube and share it
it's hard to find old um i gotta go through the twitter advanced search to find our old tweet about it
but yeah anything else anyone's kind of curious to chat about or know about so there are um not that
much project it's going out that developing on on antelope right or is this just um or obviously i
missing i something out or i'm something what was the question on antelope or on eos in particular yes
yes so in some seven years ago i know that there was a lot of development
you know but now it's i don't know if i miss something no you didn't miss anything
and just that um you missed like a dark period in eos history that
and now we've kind of come back there's a community-led foundation and we finally have
sdks proper sdks we have a web ide we have we have actually the tools that you need to build on eos now
whereas before it was like everyone had to roll their own you know everything um like um upland is
a good example of that you know upland the metaverse uh game world super app however they build themselves
they had to build all their own tools they have like their whole own suite of sdks that they built
in order to interact with the blockchain because of the time what what existed wasn't sufficient so
when the eos network um got stood up um uh when it was formed um i'm sorry the eos network foundation
we undertook a series of blue papers to try and identify like some of the gaps that we needed to fill
and one of those things was sdks um there's a whole bunch of other if you go through our blog
on eos network.com you'll see way back a bunch of blue papers that basically set like a development
roadmap for the last couple years for what needed to get built um so there's been kind of a renaissance
as far as the building the tools that we need to build on eos but um we're still kind of in that
early phase of the rebirth in terms of new applications and stuff coming to light on eos
because it's the first time it's been easy to build on um and i use the term easy really uh
in quotation marks but at least all the tools are there now um so i don't know how you came at it or
got into building an antelope or what your background is but you don't seem phased you know
i'm i'm absolutely optimistic about this friend or about antelope do you know something or i never
understood or do you know something about power power apps because i never really understand this
what this is story yeah originally eos launched with a staking model where you staked for resources
so you staked eos and you'd get like a sort of commensurate amount of
resources depending on how much eos you locked up but that got abused um because people basically
were kind of incentivized to just use all the you know resources they could whether it was for spam or
anything um and so at some point it was suggested this other model which is more kind of what people
are familiar with which is like a gas model essentially so the power-up is kind of like a gas
model so we have three main resources on eos um you're probably pretty familiar at this point but
pretty familiar yeah but it's only staking right now yeah no staking is so it's like 99 um power up
one percent staking so theoretically if you had enough eos you could stake and you know it'd probably
take a couple hundred thousand eos to stake and get enough resources to to operate what you need to
operate um don't quote me on those numbers exactly but it's a large sum of eos so that parameter can
shift and people have discussed possibly tweaking it back to like 80 20 or something so that staking would
give you some resources um if you staked enough um but right now it's all pretty much power up so
you know in a wallet like anchor or um token pocket or um wombat and then so you can so you can still
stake right you can stake but it takes an exorbitant amount of eos to like get a meaningful amount of
resources out of the deal because the ratio is flipped basically the power-up model is functionally
like the the main game in town if to and it's so it's a rental market you rent access to cpu net and
yeah for 24 hours right yeah um just smart yeah and there's also talk about bundling cpu and net
together so that people don't have to think about two separate resources because in reality most wallets
are doing that now anyway where you just buy cpu and it throws in a little bit of net for you
um and it would just greatly simple simplify things to treat it all like one just one resource instead of
two separate resources but that's a that's a after the next that's after hard fork and after tokenomics
kind of thing there's like a whole list of uh little improvements i think that the network can make
um ui and ux is a big focus for the next phase um and that has to do you know like a lot people are
talking about creating like a light account system and making it a lot easier to just create accounts on
eos and get get in the door and not have to deal with uh all this stuff that eos requires but
you know it's kind of like a trade-off right we have such a really cool permission flexible
permission structure but it it's like with great power comes great responsibility you know um requires a
a lot of a lot of figuring out to to work it if you're not a developer um it can i mean i find it
pretty easy but i've been in the space for so long that i don't remember what it was like before
so but yeah what do you think what are some improvements that uh you'd like to see um
on antelope on on the way eos functions now
anything currently no no
is there any so i i saw there are there were a lot of some speed improvements
for transactions for the new uh leap it's pretty nice
but i i also um saw that this um oh it's it's not that new but there is a new um
um type of showing the private key right those like a vision two
of of private keys or are you not familiar with this i saw like a different public key standard is
that what you're talking about but yeah it's a proper key i don't know i don't have any changes
to the key structure or anything okay um i could be missing something though um
yeah my brain's so deep in tokenomics i haven't thought about the underlying code base in a while um
uh but uh the main things coming with the next um upgrade
will be uh so which is we're spring spring 1.0 so we're going from leap 5 to spring 1.0 we just
released an article about that today um that's more to do with uh instant finality and kind of a whole
overhaul to the consensus algorithm and uh
the result you know the bls host functions and all the stuff that that entails for privacy and security
so real nerdy stuff that you'll probably really love
and most people will be like what
it's kind of interesting like we're getting to a point where the back end tech stack is so mature
it's going to be so mature now uh we can start working on some of these nice to haves
um so that'll be great
go ahead nope sorry i was gonna say we should probably wrap up soon we're a little past the hour
i also thought about developing a game on eos that's pretty funny
it's a meme arena so like you you can fight memes can fight against each other
hmm like me also pretty funny
so like you can have a fight again uh either mass against paper frog or something like this
that'd be great you should 100 do that yeah
um let me see here there is a really cool game being built so what i was saying before that
we didn't really have the tools like developers didn't have the tools they needed to build
you know apps there wasn't like a standard set of tools now with wharf kit
it it's interesting because the main team behind wharf kit is gray mass the people behind anchor
wallet and other things
and aaron cox he's the the lead developer there the head on show guy i don't know what his actual
title is if he's ceo or what but anyway he uh he's been building wharf kit for so long he's
finally building a game on eos using the tools that he built to build applications so we've kindly
gotten to that point and it's called a shipload i'm gonna see if i can find an actual i'm failing to
like pull up these links fast enough but uh probably it's because wharf got banned from x somehow that was
sad let me see if i can find a maybe gray mass did something about shipload on
um but it's uh using generative um what did he call it procedurally generated uh game map so it's like
uh it's able to be very uh not memory intensive because everything's kind of procedurally generated
on the fly and and uh yeah picking his brain at some point would probably be really good if you can
did you already uh try it out the game um the game isn't launched yet what they've done is they
they released a um they released a token distribution method for like a provably fair token distribution
um called uh droplets so in on the droplets site basically if you if you hold or own eos ram you can
you can um mint droplets like inscriptions kind of and each droplet is unique and then if you
stake those droplets um every day you can claim this from this token distribution so it's kind of like
a new airdrop method where it's like an opt-in thing so you just need to hold ram and put it in the
and use it to mint droplets and you can get the ram back it doesn't destroy it or anything it just
temporarily occupies it and then um you can opt in and receive scrap which is the token that you're
going to be using in this game but the game also won't require that you have any familiarity with
blockchain he's building it in a way that should be pretty accessible to anybody um it just has that
here it is i'm gonna but there's no no beta right so nothing to test on um i'm gonna
no not yet let's see if i can share why can't i share to the
um what's going on here
maybe i need to be in this other window
but do you know uh a time slot where this will published
the game because but now i cannot find anything to to this
Yeah, so it's time for me to go.
So I would say thank you to everyone.
Thanks for chatting.
Q-based?
What was your actual name?
Should we just call you Q-based?
No, that's fine for the beginning, sure, sure.
Yeah, so thank you a lot for the talk.
Yeah, hopefully we'll see you tomorrow on our community call.
Just joining Telegram at 3 p.m. Eastern.
Yep.
All right.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
All right, I think we're going to wrap things up.
Thanks, everyone, for joining.
This was lots of fun, and we'll, well, next week we won't be here.
Brandon and I will be in Texas.
Yeehaw, out of consensus.
But staff will be here, so this event will still be going on.
So, yeah, keep the good times going, and come out to join the Telegram chat, EOS underscore
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Stay in the loop with everything else that we've got going on.
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feel free to keep your eyes out for us and say hey.
All right.
Did I forget anything, Brandon?
He might be gone.
All right.
We're just going to wrap up.
Thanks, guys.
Take care.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
