Thank you. Thank you. Testing, testing, one, two, testing, testing. Can you hear me, Gacon?
Perfect. Amish dude, can you hear me? Check, check, mic check.
Okay, perfect. DM me if you've got your friend still coming.
I know that you wanted her to come, so just DM me and let me know.
Yeah, I think something happened where she was staying.
It was like a day long or so. She longer so she couldn't come okay well i think
you're okay i think we can oh actually she just popped in oh she did oh yeah there she is
you've got to um you've got to follow me and my co-host harmy to get in the uh to get on stage
please you can unfollow us after but that's part of the vetting process.
I know you were at camp, I think he said this week.
So, yeah, as soon as she follows, I'll get her on stage.
SJ, if you want a mic, if y'all want a mic, you can grab one.
If we need to rotate, we can do that.
Just, I think most of you know, but the topic tonight is we are, we have Amish dude.
He is actually from the Amish community,
and he's going to talk to us about his views and his experiences.
We're going to do a little logistics, and then we'll get started.
If you will, share out the room, re-quote it, quote post it, all the things,
and we'll get started in just a little bit. Thank you, Harmy.
I hope I've seen your name right again.
You can unfollow as soon as the space is over, but it's just part of the vetting process. Welcome, welcome everyone. Thank you so much for being here on a Thursday
evening. We're excited to have the Amish dude with us tonight. It looks like our scheduled
music guest is going to be unable to attend. She had an event at the last minute that she reached out and told me
about at the latter part of last week, and her flight has been delayed. So she was very good
about communication. So I still hope all you guys will give her a follow. That was Mella B.
She's a wonderful musician within the X music community. I was really excited. So hopefully
we'll be able to reschedule that.
But again, she did have to cancel, so that's okay. We always have a plan B. And I want to welcome
Gay Con as a guest co-host this evening. Again, typically my musician guest is the other co-host,
but since she canceled, he was willing to step in at the last minute. I'm waiting on my trusty
Brent to show up. he should be here shortly
and we'll get started thank you so much all again for being here
i'm glad to be here this is like the first time i've ever done anything like this it's gonna be
pretty fun yeah we're happy to have you Thank you. If you can, go ahead and grab it.
Amish dude, has she ever been in a space before?
You might want to back channel her and kind of explain to her what to do as far as grabbing the mic and stuff.
We're going to go ahead and get started. I believe in starting on time. I think other people will come in as they can. So again, thank you all so much for being
here. We really appreciate the fact that you've taken the time to come here in real time tonight.
Before we get started with anything else, I'm going to have Gay Con lead us in a short prayer.
let GATECON lead us in a short prayer.
All right, thank you Spunky.
And thank you all for being here.
And thank you Amish Jude for speaking to us.
So we'll start with a short little prayer here.
So, gracious, loving God,
thank you for gathering us all here safely today.
We're very grateful for this opportunity to learn,
listen and grow. Bless our speaker to learn, listen, and grow.
Bless our speaker, Amish Dude, and grant him clarity, wisdom, and grace as he shares his story and his message with all of us.
May our hearts and minds be open to receive his insight and inspiration from his story.
And let the time together here in this space be meaningful and enriching for all of us.
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Again, thank you all so much for being here for episode 14 of Something to Talk About with Spunky.
I always try to bring some interesting guests and interesting topics on these particular shows.
And so we're super excited to have the Amish dude with us here this evening.
So let me give him a little introduction.
He is known on social media, both on this platform
and on Instagram as the Amish Dude. If you're on Instagram, he's got the same profile pic,
so you can find him there. Give him a follow there as well, and go ahead and give him a follow here
too. He needs to remain anonymous, which I can appreciate that, but he was born, excuse me,
and raised Amish. And just so you know, because the
first question I asked him was, okay, seriously, if you're Amish, how the heck do you get to use
your phone? And he said he's a pro at sneaking around and hiding his phone from the bishop. So
we'll have to hear more about that. He has had a life full of challenges. So let me tell you
a little bit about that. And again, excuse this full of challenges. So let me tell you a little bit
about that. And again, excuse this cough of mine that seems to always linger. At three years old,
he fell off a 10 foot ladder. At five years old, he couldn't walk due to Lyme disease.
At 12 years old, he rolled out of a buggy and he survived all of that.
And he graduated eighth grade.
He got out of school and he's been working construction ever since.
The main, excuse me, the main thing he wants you to know tonight is that what he discusses,
his experiences, the things he shares are his and his alone.
He is not here to, quote unquote, represent the Amish community as a whole.
I'm eager to have him because I think this is going to be a really interesting conversation.
But just know he wanted me, excuse me, to reiterate that these are his experiences.
So we're going to let him kind of start.
As always, I have some audio clips and I have some songs and things like that.
But I want to let him start. If you have questions, just hold off a little bit
and let's, excuse me, get him started. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. I've got lots of
cough drops on the table, so I apologize in advance. Go ahead, Amish dude. Thank you so
much for being here tonight. We really appreciate it. Well, I'm glad to be here. It's just like,
Well, I'm glad to be here
I always wanted to do something like this
So I hope you're okay though
It sounded like you were coughing a little bit
Yeah, I have a lingering bronchitis
So cough drops are my best friend
Wow But thank you, I'm fine, I'll be okay So how do you want to kind of So cough drops are my best friend.
So how do you want to kind of, I mean, I have a slew of questions and I have some audio clips. But if you want to start a certain way or do you want me to start, I have a clip that actually I found online that supposedly, oh my gosh, this is horrible, explains the Amish.
And I kind of wanted to play it.
And then I wanted you to tell us how much of that is real and how much of that is like,
no, that's not even accurate.
It's give or take about, looks like it's about six minutes long.
In the meantime, Gatcon, will you reset the room, please?
So again, thank you all for coming.
And thank you, Amistu, for agreeing to speak.
I really look forward to it.
I set a reminder as soon as I saw Spunky Space.
So if you please, in the meantime, before Spunky grabs that clip,
go down there to the bottom right-hand corner of the space.
If you click on that, it'll open it up.
And if you could repost and quote post the space, we would really appreciate it.
It does push us up in the algorithm.
It makes a big difference.
And it gets more people in here to listen to our great conversation
and to listen to the Amish dude give his story and give his side of things.
So we would really appreciate a quote post and a repost, both or either, both preferred.
And give it a like too while you're down there. All right. Thank you so much. All right. So again,
this is a video that I found online. You never really know how accurate these things are, give or take. It's a little over five minutes, so we'll listen to it, and then we'll let Amish dude give his critique.
And what do they believe in?
Hey, it's Dan Zimmerman and welcome back to Illustrate to Educate.
In this short video, we'll dive into details of the Amish including their origins, beliefs,
Let's first begin with their origins.
The Amish are a group of traditionalist Christian Church fellowships with Swiss-German Anabaptist
The Amish trace their roots to the Anabaptist movement which emerged in the early 16th century during the Protestant Reformation.
Anabaptists were part of the Radical Reformation, distinct for their practice of adult baptism,
which opposed the common practice of infant baptism by other Christian groups.
The Amish are named after Jacob Amon, who lived from 1644 to 1730.
He was a Swiss Anabaptist leader. In 1693, Amann led a
schism within the Swiss Brethren in Switzerland, Alsace, and the Palatinate, forming a more
conservative faction that would come to be known as the Amish. The split was primarily over issues
of church discipline, including the practice of social shunning of excommunicated
In the early 18th century, facing religious persecution and economic hardship, many Amish
migrated to North America, primarily to Pennsylvania, where William Penn's policy of religious
tolerance offered a safe haven.
The first sizable group of Amish arrived in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania in the 1720s. Over the centuries, the Amish community grew and spread to other states, including Ohio,
Now let's talk about some of their beliefs and practices.
The Amish faith is rooted in the Bible and their practices are guided by the Ordnung,
an unwritten set of rules that governs all aspects of their life, including dress, technology
use and social behavior. of rules that governs all aspects of their life, including dress, technology use, and
social behavior. They believe in a literal interpretation of the scriptures and practice
a strict form of discipleship, emphasizing humility, obedience, and simplicity.
When it comes to baptism, Amish are baptized as adults, typically between the ages of 16
and 24, after a period of instruction and a decision to join
the church community. Baptism signifies a commitment to the Amish faith and lifestyle.
Amish church services are held every other Sunday in the homes of members,
rotating among households. Services, conducted in Pennsylvania German, typically last three hours
and consist of singing, scripture reading,
preaching, and prayer. Hymns are sung without musical accompaniment from the Osband, a hymnal
that dates back to the 16th century. Another important thing to know about the Amish is that
they place a high value on community and family. Large families are common, and the extended family
plays a central role in the social structure. Marriages are typically arranged within the community, and divorce is not permitted.
Next, let's look into their traditions and lifestyle.
Amish clothing is plain and modest, reflecting their values of humility and separation from
Men wear dark-colored suits, broad-brimmed hats, and suspenders, while women wear long
dresses with capes and bonnets.
The lack of adornment and uniformity in dress is a visual manifestation of their commitment
to community and simplicity. The Amish are known for their cautious approach to technology.
While they do not reject all modern conveniences, they selectively use technology to avoid
weakening community ties or promoting individualism. For example, they may use horse-drawn buggies instead of cars,
and while electricity from public utility lines is typically avoided,
some Amish might use batteries or generators for necessary tasks.
Traditionally, Amish communities have been agrarian,
relying on farming as their primary occupation.
However, with the rising cost of farmland, many have diversified into other businesses
such as carpentry, crafts, and construction.
Regardless of the occupation, the focus remains on manual labor and skills passed down through
When it comes to education, Amish children attend one-room schoolhouses, typically only
The curriculum emphasizes
basic reading, writing, arithmetic, and practical skills needed for Amish life. After formal
schooling, children learn trades and domestic skills through hands-on experience in the
One unique tradition of the Amish is Rumspringa, which literally means running around. It is
a period during adolescence when
Amish youth are given more freedom to explore the outside world before deciding whether to
be baptized and commit to the Amish church. This period can vary in length and experiences,
but it often includes activities like socializing with non-Amish peers and experiencing modern
conveniences. When it comes to health and medicine, the Amish use
modern medicine but often supplement it with traditional remedies. They value natural health
practices and prefer home remedies and midwifery over hospital births when possible. Genetic
disorders are more common in Amish communities due to their closed gene pool, leading to unique
medical challenges. Lastly, let's take a look at some interesting facts about the Amish.
The Amish population is growing rapidly due to high birth rates. As of 2023, there are over 350,000
Amish in North America, with new settlements continuously being established. The Amish are
known for their pacifism, refusing to bear arms or serve in the military.
Their commitment to nonviolence stems from the teachings of Jesus and their Anabaptist heritage.
While the Amish and Mennonites share common origins, they are distinct groups today.
Mennonites generally embrace more modern conveniences and are less conservative than the Amish.
Did you find this video about the Amish?
Okay, so I'm curious to know, Amish dude, what did you think? Is that pretty accurate information? It is pretty accurate. Like don't,
don't like the only thing two things that I can think of right now that they got like, well they
didn't get wrong, but like over the last 20 years or so, a lot of the Amish like go like go into a hospital there's like there's still like
some of the like old older ones that like do home birth but I say most of them probably go to a
hospital because that's I was born in a hospital all my brothers were born in a hospital now my
mom and dad they weren't they weren't born in the hospital though and then the other one was bearing arms
now one thing that that we love to do is uh go hunting like go hunting for like rapids squirrels
you take you take like usually we take it like a 22 to hunt rapids or squirrels but like
hunting deer that's a lot of fun too so we do we do like have guns and stuff so that's that's like the only
two things like that they like i guess didn't quite get right but other than that he did a pretty good
job well that's good to know because as a teacher a lot of the times the information that i find
online is not is not very accurate at all. So I'm glad to know
that. My co-host, my other co-host is in the house. Hey, Brent, I'm trying to make you speaker
and then co-host. So if you will try to grab it and get on up here, you know, I need your help,
please. So I'm very curious because I want to know more about, and I'm probably going to
mispronounce it, but Rum Springer. Am I saying that correctly,
or how do you correctly pronounce that? Well, that's like a German word, so you kind of got
it like Rum Springer. Rum Springer. Okay, I'm horrible with that, but we'll try. Okay, so
full transparency, and you know, because you know that I'm very straightforward and call it like I see it.
So we had a whole conversation in the back channel about me wanting to know if you were legit, right?
Because after looking at both of your accounts, this one and the one on Instagram, I thought perhaps you were a parody account.
And the last thing I wanted to do was have someone that wasn't like really Amish.
Right. But but you convinced us.
And basically what it what it turns out is you just have a really quirky personality.
And so you use a lot of humor and the stuff that you post.
And so that that's just it.
But you legitimately you legitimately are Amish.
You were born Amish. You have been
raised Amish. And so I just want to thank you for working with me because, you know, I am a Gen Xer
and I do have lots of questions. And the last thing I wanted to do was put on something that,
you know, that wasn't legit with legit information. So again, I appreciate your patience with me and
while we work through that. So one of the things I asked you was, again, about your phone, because I was very curious
as someone who really knows nothing about the Amish other than what you see on TV and
I was surprised that you had a phone.
I was very surprised that you had two social media accounts.
accounts. And I was happy, but surprised also that you were able to do this tonight. And so again,
And I was happy but surprised also that you were able to do this tonight.
what you basically said to me is if I got it correct, you're currently on Rum Springer,
right? You're currently participating in that. Is that right? Yes, it is. Okay. So talk to us a
little bit about that because my understanding, which again, I'm here to learn was that that happened when you when you guys and gals
turned 16 but i had no idea that it could last for what like up to four years so tell us a little bit
about that process please so damage we like like from community to community like what room spring
is it varies but most of what it 16, you, you join what you
call a youth group, which is like Rumspringa, which like every other weekend, we have like church,
and then at night, there's also like, like sing-ins where we go to, and when we're in Rumspringa,
you just, you just do all kinds of wild stuff, I mean, a lot of, a lot of Amish, when they're in Romspring, you just do all kinds of wild stuff. I mean, a lot of Amish, when they're in Romspring, they party a lot.
It's actually kind of crazy, especially in Ohio, how big they are.
And I was kind of surprised.
I had a phone for a little bit, you know, before I like made an Amish dude account.
And I was actually like really, really surprised that like more people didn't know like that us young Amish kid who's like around around 18 16 even up to 20 because like
like we have like we have phones so that that's how to like that's how you got speakers in the
back of the Buc-ee's and weekends when you go out when you go out partying but like we have to hide
all that stuff from like the parents so then so they because if they find it they take it and usually like smash it up
but yeah like most most amish that have like phones like they have snapchat so that is like
the main way like the the amish on room spring communicate is through snapchat so i've i actually
started like an like an amish dude snapchat up and there up, and there's way more Amish than I thought there was.
Because when you're Amish, you're kind of in this community, and you don't really see how many other communities there.
Because there's communities in Indiana, there's communities in Tennessee, Kentucky.
There's even somewhere out in Maryland, New York, Pennsylvania, even Florida,
like, there's Amish everywhere, I never knew that there were, like, Amish, like, everywhere like
that, even though I am Amish, because when you're, like, in a community, you don't really,
I guess you never really talk about, like, stuff outside of the community so like what rum spring is it's from from 16 to
like whenever you like join the church to get married so the main reason like people join the
church is it's like to get married right and join the church and that usually like when you join the
church is usually around 19 to 20 years old, sometimes 21. But on average, I'd say it's around like 20 years old.
So is it kind of, and again, I may be misspeaking because I'm just going off of memory.
I know the Mormon Church kind of has something where they sing their young men like on a mission, right?
And they kind of go around until I think they figure out what they
want to do and if they want to definitely commit to, if I'm saying that correctly. So is that kind
of the same thing? It's basically giving y'all an opportunity to make a decision for the rest of
your life. And then you're either deciding to go ahead and stay committed to the Amish community
in that way of life, or you're breaking away. Is that correct?
That's exactly right. And so if you leave the Amish before you join the church, you won't get shunned. Now, the shunning, like, if you can go back to your parents when you leave, when you're
on Romspringa, that, like, that varies on the parents. Like, it varies from family to family.
Some families are like, nope, never want to see you again. And other families like, hey, you can, you can come back and listen, you know, when you want to.
So it just, that varies. But like, if you leave the, like, if you join the church and then leave
the Amish, you'll, you'll be shunned. Okay. So I'm just clarifying. In other words,
you have a choice. What, what is the earliest age you can make a decision to join the church?
Like 18. Like 18 around here would be considered very young. Okay, so it's not like you're born.
You're born into the community, but you're not necessarily born into the church. You're raised
with those values, and you're raised with those traditions, but then when you hit that age, they give you a decision.
And so then you're off to do,
to experience the English life, if you will,
to do those things that you haven't done before.
And then that way, as an adult,
as they see it during that period of time,
you can weigh the pros and the cons
and make the decision that's best for you.
If you have not already joined the church
and you do that and decide to go off and
be the English, then you could come back and join the church, correct? But if you've already joined
it and you leave, then you're shunned from the church. Did I understand that correctly?
Yes, yes and no. Well, like, let's say you leave and you get shunned. Well, if you come back and
like you actually, you know, you show that you want to become Amish again, which I've actually never seen this happen.
If someone leaves for a long time, that's been part of the church.
They usually never come back.
But sometimes when they're in Romspring and they leave, it's really odd to leave the Amish.
So they come back Amish and like, they, they don't like it. So they could like come back Amish again, which, and then like,
when that happens, like the parent, everyone's like, yeah,
you can come back, you know, and they're very accepting.
Okay. Very cool. Are you okay with taking some audience questions?
I am. I love when people ask the audience questions.
Well, again, I just want to thank you. I know that this was very,
um, that you've been looking forward to, but you were also kind of nervous. And I know Harmy's in
here. Thank you, Harmy, for hanging out with us tonight in case you were, you're afraid maybe we
wouldn't understand you, but, uh, we can understand you perfectly. But yeah, Harmy, I'm just going to
let you say hi. I really appreciate you being here. Oh yeah. Hi. Sorry. I was, I've been having
technical difficulties. So I kept coming in and leaving and I don't know what's yeah. Hi. Sorry. I was, I've been having technical difficulties. So I kept
coming in and leaving and I don't know what's up. That's okay. That's X for you. I do want to ask
you one, one quick question before we get to hands. How do you know Amish dude? Um, I found him
actually in a Twitter space. Um, he, it was just like a random space and he was there and I found out he was Amish
and like no one was, no one was like psyched about that.
So I was like, can I do a Q&A with you?
So we had our own space and I used to be obsessed with the Amish.
Like I would always do school projects and stuff on it because I'm from Pennsylvania.
So I knew a lot about the Amish. So
we, um, I just like had a Q and A with him one night, kind of like this. And we just started
having spaces. Like I, I've deactivated Twitter a lot lately, but like a year ago, we would have
spaces like every night and talk about Amish life and whatever. And just kind of became,
I say I'm like his internet mom.
Well, I love that. And again, thank you so much for coming tonight. I met him in a space as well,
and just was impressed with how well he spoke, how open he was. And just, you know, he's 18,
but he's still young. You know, I'm an old one. I'm a Gen X.
I appreciate you being here tonight.
Go ahead, Jim, and then we'll go to Tiger Man.
Thanks for hanging out with us tonight.
You always organize such awesome stuff.
And this is a cool topic.
It's not really talked about enough and um appreciate
you sharing with us amish dude that's like um it almost feels kind of like an oxymoron to have
somebody that's amish in a in an x space so i was kind of excited for that and um when you were
talking about you know what it takes to stay in the community and the decision that everybody needs to make.
And you were also talking about how there's lots of Amish around the country.
I don't know. It just sparked in my brain.
I know that the Amish originated from, you know, the Dutch or the Netherlands and Germany.
And I was just kind of curious like is there still
a connection to the old world and do people from like Europe come and join the communities like
are they accepted or does that happen ever well not not that I know of. From my understanding, the Amish are strictly in the U.S.
Now, there might be some Mennonite communities.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some Mennonite communities in Europe.
But the reason the Amish came over here from Germany...
There's also Mennonites in Russia.
They had to hide their Bibles and everything like that.
The reason the Amish came over to the U.S. was because of the freedom.
You didn't have to hide it.
Before the Amish were a thing, the Anabaptists, there's a big book on it.
The Anabaptists, they were slaughtered to a certain extent.
But the Anabaptists, they were pacifists.
They would help their enemies,
and it was actually, the Anabaptists are like, it was like really, I'd say really cool.
Go ahead, Gaycon, and then we'll go with Tagerman.
Oh, thank you. You know me, Spunky. I'm going to ask a slightly political question about the Amish.
So a lot of people lump Anabaptist and Baptist together, like what we know as Baptist of the United States.
And they're very different, right? They're very different groups with different beliefs and different origins.
That's kind of not lost on some people, but I know that from what I understand, the Anabaptists and by extension the Amish don't often become political, right?
So they don't, they see a very separation of church and state and they don't like to become political, as far as I've been told.
Recently, though, we've seen the Amish community come out and vote at kind of record numbers.
So do you think that that's a new phenomenon, or do you see more people like your age
people like your age becoming more politically active or knowledgeable?
becoming more politically active or knowledgeable?
Yeah, like, ever since the smartphones, like, within the last, like, 10 years or so of smartphones,
like, some zombies got their hands on some smartphones like me,
and, like, it's just become more and more, like, apparent, like, for the election.
Now, like, sometimes, like, the church can get a little bit of a little
bit messy you could say like political in a way but like usually there's like no politics and
to be honest i'm not quite sure you know what exactly you know caused like the all omnis to
go over and vote because that's that's very rare to to see that happen and maybe it was because of
covid maybe that's like people like they saw like what happened with covid they maybe they like maybe
they blame biden but around this community like there are only like a handful that voted because
we're like a stricter community so so like no one really in our community really
voted, but like over in like PA and Ohio, I know a lot of Amish voted there.
Well, I would like to say that Scott Pressler had something to do with the huge turnout
of the Amish and PA for sure. So I think that, that he definitely gets recognition for that.
But yeah, that's a good question, Gaycon.
And yes, of course, I knew you were going to throw the politics in there.
I would expect nothing less.
Thanks for being so patient.
Well, after hearing that clip you played,
I thought, man, I sound like my family's mostly Amish
because we have a large family we homeschool
my wife focuses on trade and traditional medicine um we took a trip years ago
to Ohio and Pennsylvania and got to be among the Amish and Mennonite community. I've always appreciated the Amish.
By the way, there is a big Amish community in North Carolina as well,
and they recently were instrumental in helping rebuild western North Carolina when it was flooded.
And so I'm very much appreciative.
And I grew up in a Baptist church. I'm not a Baptist
now but I grew up so the Baptist came out of the Anabaptist movement and so there's very similar
beliefs in the Amish and Mennonite and Baptist community. The Baptists are not pacifists, and they do vote.
But recently, the Amish did start voting.
But one of the things, by the way, and Amish make the best bread.
My goodness, I'll never forget that.
I don't know what that restaurant was in Pennsylvania that I ate at,
but they had the best food.
It was fresh, and I just enjoyed it. But
tell me, I'd like to know more as far as trades. Um, you know, cause I see that that's very much
needed in the United States. And I think that even though you have a, quote, an eighth grade education, you have a much higher education than what is perceived, at least in the traditional education system.
It used to be that education did focus on trade, and the Amis have continued to do so.
So maybe what types of trade other than
construction? My son actually has his own construction company. So he kind of went the
trade route. So I'd be interested to know a lot about the trade and maybe the how you worship, how you worship.
So the trades, like, so back in the 80s and 90s, when my dad was growing up, like back then, like almost every Amish was like, from this, from like an older order Amish, like
And most of them were like milking cows, milking cows, until,
like, roughly, roughly around the 2010s, maybe in, like, five years earlier, like, 2005, like,
the, like, it wasn't, you couldn't really make necessarily a living off of just, you know,
milking cows, you had to get, like, way more cows, so what the Amish started to do was branch off into other, like other things,
which like cap and tree, like making, making furniture, that was already a thing, but like
it's gotten way, way bigger since then, like most Amish and like old order, new order do construction,
they either, it's either making furniture, there's some some still farm like some still have cows but most
of them they do construction and the furniture there's also some have like farmers markets and
right now my mind is going a little bit blank on all the other things well there's that let's wait
um i know you wanted to know about worship but let's wait tiger man because i have a section and
we'll uh we'll discuss that in a minute. So hang tight and you can ask that question again. Once again, I just want to welcome everyone. Thank
you so much for hanging out with us tonight. Anytime you join us in real time, it really
does mean a lot. I realize that there's like a bajillion other spaces going on now on this
platform. The platform is super saturated with spaces. And so when you take the time to be here
in real time, it really does mean a lot. If you would, please go down there to that little purple pill and repost and quote
post the space. The reason we ask you to do that is it does push us up in the algorithm. It gets
more people in here in real time for the conversation. And it also extends the reach
because we have a lot of people that go back later and listen to the recording. One of the
questions I wanted to ask you, Amish dude,
is with regard to, I guess it's been several years now,
but we've seen an influx of kind of some of the reality TV shows, right?
You have like the Amish Mafia,
and I think there were a few other from that.
So I'm going to play a little song.
It's kind of a little parody.
And I want you to think about what my question is,
how based on truth are those shows, right?
Because I would think that it's kind of like
with all these other reality TV shows,
there's kind of a little give and take there, right?
You kind of have to take all that with a grain of salt.
I want you to think about why I play this weird Al Yankovich song
As I walk through the valley where I harvest my grain,
I take a look at my wife and realize she's very plain,
but that's just perfect for an Amish like me.
You know I shun fancy things like electricity.
At 4.30 in the morning, I'm milking cows, Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows.
Fool, and I've been milking and plowing so long that even Ezekiel thinks that my mind is gone.
I'm a man of the land, I'm into disciplines, Got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin.
But if I finish all of my chores and you finish dine, then tonight we're gonna party like it's 1699.
We've been spending most our lives living in an Amish paradise.
A chin-bell who wants to work twice living in an Amish paradise.
It's hard-working sacrifice living in an Amish paradise. It's hard work and sacrifice, living in an Amish paradise.
We sell quips at discount price, living in an Amish paradise.
A local boy kicked me in the butt last week.
I just smiled at him and I turned the other cheek.
I really don't care, in fact, I wish him well.
Cause I'll be laughing my head off when he's burning in hell.
But I ain't never punched a tourist even if he deserves it.
An Amish with a tool to know that's observed off.
I never wear buttons, but I got a cool hat.
And my homies agree, I really look good in black, fool.
If you come to visit, you'll be bored to tears.
We haven't even paid the phone bill in 300 years.
But we ain't really quaint, so please don't point and stare.
We're just technologically impaired.
There's no phone, no lights, no motor car, not a single luxury.
Like Robinson Crusoe, it's as primitive as can be.
We've been spending most our lives living in an Amish Paradise.
We're just plain and simple kinds living in an Amish Paradise.
There's no time but sitting by living in an Amish Paradise.
We don't fight, we all play nice, living in an obvious paradise.
Hitching up the buggy, churning lots of butter, raise the barn on Monday, soon I'll raise another.
Think you're really righteous, think you're pure in heart? Well I know I'm a million times as humble as thou art.
I'm the pious guy, the little omelette wannabe, like on my knees day and night, scoring points for the afterlife.
So don't be vain, and don't be whiny, or else my brother I might have to get medieval on your hiney.
We better spend the most our lives living in an Irish paradise.
We're all crazy men in the night living in an Irish paradise.
Now there's no constant traffic lights living in an Irish paradise. paradise
all right and just so you know everything's everything's tongue in cheek. I have much respect for you,
the Amish dude. That was just a little tongue in cheek. I believe if we can't add humor to everything, then there's just not, I don't know what we're doing. We have some new people in the
audience and also on stage. So I just want to remind everyone, this is a structured space.
Please do not unmute your mic unless you've raised your hand and you've been called upon.
And we do have a specific topic tonight.
So our topic is that we have Amish dude as our guest.
He's sharing information and his experiences about the Amish community.
It's taken us a long time to set up this space.
So if you're here, if you're on stage,
I do ask that you respect those expectations. If not, you're more than welcome to hit the leave
button and leave. Just know that no trolling and nothing like that will be tolerated. That's just
not how we roll in my structured spaces. All right, so I'm going to unmute everyone and ask Amis
the question before I played that song. And again, I hope you know that's all tongue in cheek.
How much reality is there really on those reality TV shows like the Amis Mafia?
Now, I don't watch any TV shows.
The only TV show I did watch a little bit of was Breaking Amish.
And a lot of that stuff is there's a lot
of it like how does it it's like it's like not true like because some of them like the age the
age of like they're way older than the age some of the age that some of them had they should like
they should have been either like out of the the community or either be a member of the church.
Now, Amish Mafia, that is completely fabricated.
But the people that were in the Amish Mafia, a lot of them were ex-Amish.
That's how they could speak Amish.
And you can also hear in the accents. Any Amish person, you can hear in the accents. shiitsawana indiana like there's a lot of english people like so english people is like anyone
that's like not amish but if you're from like a different country we'll call you like uh
like from that country if you're from australia we'll call you australia australian that that's
just i don't know that's always how it's been and so like if you if you're around a lot of english
people you do you do lose the accent a little bit.
But for the main part, it sticks around because the way the Amish work is...
I was actually lucky enough because my mom helped clean at a restaurant.
She helped clean sometimes.
So I got to hang around English people when I was at a younger age.
So I could speak english way better than
like some others could i could like it was i guess it was easy for me to learn because by the time i
was four or five i was speaking two different languages now my english wasn't very good though
but i but i managed though and that that's why why and how like where the accent comes from
So why and how, like, where the accent comes from?
And I actually find that you're very, very easy to understand.
I kind of figured that, you know, they sensationalize so many things, right, for television, especially for those reality TV shows.
But you mentioned language.
And so I have this very short clip.
It's less than a minute about the different languages that the Amish community often speaks. So let's listen to that. And then you can give your
thoughts on that as well. That's someone who speaks three languages, but never brags about it.
That's the Amish. Yep. Every single one of them. First, there's Pennsylvania Dutch. It's their home language, spoken around the table in the barn.
It's how they talk to each other, like family. Then comes English, learned in school, used with
outsiders, when they got a deal with the English world. It's not their first tongue, but they speak
it just fine. And a third, High German. that's the church language, used for hymns,
scripture, and worship. Old, formal, sacred, three languages, each with a purpose, none
wasted, not to impress, just to live and connect with God, family, and strangers.
So is that accurate? Do y'all typically speak three languages?
So the funny thing is about German is I know how to read German
Like we learn that every Friday at school.
So we like German reading, German spelling.
Basically, that was the day where we like practice I guess German you
could say and that's one thing like I guess I never really thought a point of like learning it
because like I didn't understand what it means like I like I could pronounce all the words but
I never understood like exactly what it meant so like in church when when they're preaching so sometimes they'll mix in some
like pennsylvania dutch but like most of it is like in high german like all the hymns are sung
in high german like all the religious stuff isn't isn't like high german and now when i hear a
german person speak i can pick up some of it but most of it I cannot pick up. But, like, Pennsylvania Dutch is actually, it should be called Pennsylvania German,
but it's called Pennsylvania Dutch.
It's actually a dialect from German.
So there's a little bit of a correlation there.
And, yeah, like, there's, I can't speak German in any way, but I can read German.
But, like, I don't really understand any of it, though, if that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Kind of, and I'm going to ask this and then Tigerman can jump in if it doesn't cover what he wanted to know.
So I'm curious, y'all are not, if I got this correct, you're not born into the church,
but you're born and you take part in the church until you reach the age where you go off and then you make the determination whether or not you want to commit to the church for your lifetime.
But my question is, as you're growing up in the church with your family, talk to me about that, because you've mentioned the bishop several times, and especially, I guess, on the TV shows that I know aren't necessarily realistic, right?
especially, I guess, on the TV shows that I know aren't necessarily realistic, right?
But they've talked about the bishop, and he's kind of, I guess, like the head of the church,
and he's the one that you said you kind of have to run around and make sure he's not seeing your
phone and not catching you doing some of the things that you're doing. So kind of talk to us
a little bit about that, I guess, authority, if you want to call it that, or just how
things are set up in the church with regard to, I know the men are the main focus, and just that sort of thing. If you can
speak to that, please. So when you're like a kid, you don't really deal with the bishop.
Like, don't like, so let's say I would do something like really bad. And then so the
bishop would come to my parents if my
parents wouldn't do anything about it like the bishop would like come to my parents and like
have a talk with them but when it comes to making rules and stuff like hey like something new popped
up and then like some people are like some are like hey let's put this in and then others are like no that that's i guess you could say
that's too worldly and then you have like a vote but the bishop is kind of like the head guy he's
the one that has the the like the church district he's like he kind of runs the church district
and he and he's the one that marries like every single person that gets married he's the one that
some people say the Amish like don't pay taxes and stuff like some do like some people like some
Amish don't file taxes but the only taxes that we're like exempt from legally is is called social
social security taxes those are the only taxes and so the way you get exempt from that is when you join the
church. And then only then if the bishop like writes like a letter, I guess, to the government,
I think, and then the government sends sends it back with like all the paperwork with your name
on it, probably your Social Security, too. And then you're exempt from paying Social Security
tax. And then, oh yeah, the bishop.
So, like, right now I don't really have to worry about the bishop,
not necessarily, because I'm not a part of the church yet.
So, like, the only people I have to, like, really worry about would be my parents.
I know, but you told me several times they're hiding that phone from the bishop.
Because when I guess and I'm calling us the English, which is what y'all typically refer
to us as, I guess that's kind of we relate to that, right?
The bishop is us kind of thinking maybe collectively that he's like the head that
you've got to, you know, got to always hide from kind of always that big guy, right? The big brother
or the person that's looking out to make sure you guys are doing things the way you're supposed to
do them. Tigerman, did you have something specific about their worship or something that, that I didn't reach that you wanted to ask him?
Well, does the bishop make the final call? I've always seen like there's a group of like elders or bishops that, and then there's one head bishop
and they make the rules for the community.
I think each community has possibly different rules,
or they may have many of the same ones,
but there are maybe a little bit different in some communities.
And then also, what would be like a traditional service?
I mean, you said you had not joined the church, so maybe how would a traditional service be? I mean, typically, I have attended a Mennonite service.
I'm not sure if it's the same, but maybe you could explain that.
So the way the church system works is you have preachers and you also have a deacon.
Now, the deacon is kind of the guy who goes out, let's say someone's not obeying the rules,
and then they go out for the bishop to have a talk with people who are not obeying the rules
and kind of, I guess, put them in their place.
And it's kind of when a new thing comes in, it's kind of collective.
It's not just like the elders.
It's kind of a community vote.
And the way that, like, the church service works is so the church is always on what we would call slow time,
which would be right now it would be
what we call slow time would be instead of it being nine o'clock it would still be eight o'clock
so there's like an hour behind so like church church time always stays the same it never changes
so like usually you go you get church, and the church usually starts
around, like, it's usually, it's like nine o'clock, roughly, sometimes a little bit early,
sometimes a little bit later, and then you go in, and then you sit, and then they start preaching
for a little bit, and after they're done with that, they start singing.
And then halfway when you're singing, the bishop and the preachers,
and sometimes the deacon, he doesn't always, but then they go upstairs.
I'm not quite sure what they do, though.
They go upstairs, and what I'm guessing they do is like see what they're gonna what
they're gonna preach about today and then like right around was it like 10 30 i believe
they come down and then you stop like singing hymns and then they preach for like 45 minutes to an hour and then right after that we do one final hymn and then
after that's done we go out and then we're out for a little bit until like lunch is ready but
there's also like if you're a member of the church when you like so all after the last hymns like
finish like everyone that's like not a member or the boys, I would be considered like the boys because I'm in Rome Spring.
We'd go out, but then they'd also close the doors and they'd just sit in silence for 10 to 15 minutes.
It varies. But then right after that, we'll go outside for a while and then go in and eat, say a prayer before we start eating.
And then after we're done eating, say another prayer.
And then church is over from there, which usually is around 12 and 1 o'clock.
And so your hymns, y'all do not use music for your hymns?
Did I understand that correctly?
And they're all sung in German.
And the way it works is someone...
the first word, one person sings.
And then the rest of the words in that line, everyone else sings,
if that makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of like what we do in the Catholic Church is we have a
responsorial psalm, and it's sung, and sometimes a cappella, sometimes with music, but they sing
part of it, and then we sing a version of it, repetitive, and they sing. So I guess it would
kind of be like that. Tigerman,
I know you had a follow-up, but let's go ahead. I've got some other new speakers on stage. Let's
get their questions, and we'll definitely come back to you. So let's go with Jimmy, and then
we'll go with Joe, and then we'll come back to Tigerman. So go ahead, Jimmy. Welcome to stage.
What questions do you have for Amish Dude? So I'm pretty much just wondering, where's your head at about becoming, like, or staying
Amish or becoming English? To be honest, it's a big decision to make. I couldn't, right now,
I couldn't tell you, like, exactly if, like, if I wanted to stay Amish or leave.
I'm seeing what's out there.
And some of the stuff is like, I don't know.
And then it kind of, I guess, grounds you.
And it makes you realize how precious we are.
to realize like how precious like we are because we're we're like it's almost like
we're we don't eat processed foods like all that kind of stuff so we're like natural so
if i were to say right now like i'd say i'd say amish but you know that can always change
that can always change like but it's it's a very a very big decision. So I can't say for sure yet. difference between us. And they were very, very protective. She homeschooled my nephews,
her sons, and this was way before all of that was even like the popular thing to do, right?
And I always, in my worldly self, ha ha, I thought, my gosh, my sister and her husband
live in a bubble. Like, I really did not understand. I was like, oh, my nephews are not going to be, you
know, they're not going to be socialized. They're not going to know. And the older I got, the more
I grew to appreciate what they were doing for their family. Right. Because ultimately what they
were doing is they were honoring and recognizing that family unit and protecting it. And now she let them go to high school.
One of them is a doctor. The other one is this huge cyber guy. So they were not in any way,
nothing's wrong with them, right? They were raised just fine. And I really have a deeper
appreciation for kind of the bubble, if you will, that they put around their family to protect them. And so I think of that in many ways, like the Amish, right?
Y'all are in this protection and some people look at it and they don't understand it.
But I would think that that would be just something beautiful as you're trying to decide
which way you're trying to go.
which way you're trying to go.
like the damage to very well is like morals.
Like I've seen some people,
like I don't like the church,
it seems like some people like don't have morals,
like on the internet I've seen.
like the internet is just, it blows my mind.
The internet, my dear, is a hot mess.
The internet is a hot mess full of thirst traps
and all kind of stuff that your sweet little innocent self,
even at the age of 18, does not need to know.
But that's coming from a Gen Xer.
Let me get to some of these hands before they start sending me some unnice DMs.
We'll go with Joe, and then we'll go to Joker. And welcome, everybody. Thanks again for being here. Please
take a minute to share out the space, quote, post it, repost it, all the things, and thanks for
being with us. Go ahead, Joe. Thanks for being here tonight. What questions do you have for the
Amish dude? Well, one thing I was, there are a couple of things. One, I I remember going to Latin masses every now
and again, um, just cause they still had them when I was growing up. They still have them,
but I don't go to them because I don't understand them. But, but that, that would be the same thing,
a similar thing to what Amish dude is going through or has been through where the whole church thing is done in high German.
But what they did in the Latin mass was they would do all the formal stuff would be in Latin.
But the homily or when when the priest in our case, the priest was giving the homily.
That would be done in the native language in my for my parents
that would have been because they're from austria it would have been german but here in the united
states they would do it in english unless it was in a spanish community when they do it in spanish
um is that how i i don't i don't know the entire pro and I'm basing this on the framework that I have of, you know, what happens at a Mass.
And is it, you know, because we go through the process, they go through the process of blessing the Eucharist for Holy Communion, things like that.
Do you have a similar thing in the Amish Church?
I have no idea. things like that. Do you have a similar thing in the Amish church?
I have no idea. Like Catholic, Protestant, I have no idea how those work. Okay, so what we have is we have what's called communion, and we believe that it's the body of Christ.
And so we actually, it's like a sacrament, and so we go through that.
But only Catholics that believe that can partake in that.
So it'd be something along those lines. But you're just not familiar with that.
But you might want to give Joe a follow. I'm going to go ahead and get to the next question, Joe.
But y'all might want to follow each other and perhaps.
Well, the only other thing I want to do is also extend the thanks for what you guys did for people in Western North Carolina.
extend the thanks for what you guys did for people in Western North Carolina, what the Amish people
did to help those in Western North Carolina, because that was just amazing. It was one of the,
like, I saw that happen. That's like the Cajun Navy in the hurricanes.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Were you aware of what was going on there, Amish dude? I'm sure you were.
And Joker, I've got you next.
Yeah. Amish, you were aware of that?
Yeah, I thought it was amazing.
I was really, really happy to see the stuff like that.
Well, but it doesn't surprise me.
I think that that's what your community does.
They just step up and help.
Go ahead, Joker, and thanks for being here, my dear.
I'll just say what's up and show support.
I can't be here long because I'm going to take my old ass to bed.
But, yeah, I just wanted to say I admire the Amish for all their discipline
and their hesitancy to follow world trends as far as technology goes because anybody who's been around
before 1990 knows how destructive the internet has been since it's it's came on the scene so i
respect the amish and i appreciate what you guys have done like he said in in carolina and uh voting
in pennsylvania yeah like it's it's really amazing what other like what other communities have done
and I'm guessing if I didn't have social media I would have never seen what happened in like
North Carolina. Like we would have never known about it. Yeah, because how would you have,
right? You wouldn't have had that information at all. No. The only way would be.
Which is a huge newspaper.
I don't pay attention to it.
We have a Papa too. Yeah. grandpa, he gets it, and it's like, there's like Amish from all around the US.
Yeah, and it's, that's like, that's the only way, I think.
All right, Bubba, thanks for joining us, as always.
Hey, you watch who you call papa now.
Hey, Spunky. Hey, Yamiche. Nice to meet you. Here's my first question for you for the night. All right. You got to do one question at a time. There's two
questions at a time. I will. I will. No, no, no. You're running. You're running. I know.
I know. Okay. All right. You have the best questions, but I'm just saying, you got to do one at a time.
Within the Amish community over the last two decades, there have been 52 cases of child
sexual abuse prosecuted. It's probably a bigger problem within the Amish community
because it goes unreported.
With the Bishop being the center focus of the community,
and how much does he take advantage
to cover up sexual abuse of children within the community?
OK, I'm muting. And this is what I want to know.
We're not an echo chamber, but at the same time I did.
This is the first time Amish dude has done a space.
And so even though I can appreciate your question, I'm going to reiterate what I told him because he is 18 years old.
This is his first space. He's not used to necessarily fielding questions like this.
So Amish dude, you are not in any way obligated to answer that question.
If you want to, you're welcome to. If you don't, then we will move on.
And I ask that those types of questions not be asked.
But I completely respect you.
And so, Amish dude, if you want to answer that question, give me a thumbs up.
If you want to pass it, give me a thumbs down, and we will move forward.
So he's giving the thumbs up.
Again, I do not like echo chambers, but I 100% respect the people that take their time to come into my spaces, and I always want to make sure that they are respected. Bubba, you know I love you, but I had to make that
disclaimer, so we'll continue with the conversation. Again, it is a recorded space, and Amish, you are
not obligated to answer anything that you do not want to answer, you can halt the conversation at any time.
And so now I'll unmute everyone.
I'll answer that to my best ability from what I know.
Now, that does happen from community to community here and there.
But in my community, do I know that that has ever happened?
I've never known that that has happened in this community.
I've known that it has happened in other communities,
so I can't really say anything on it
because I don't really know anything about it.
Okay, let's go on to Jimmy.
I'm actually not quite sure what my question was.
Every space has one of those, right?
You put your hand up and then we're like, what the heck happened?
Okay, let's lighten the mood a little bit.
So what I did, Amish dude, is I found one of your little clips on social media.
This is from several months ago.
And it is you doing a a tick tock challenge i guess
with uh with your brother so let's take a listen and then i want to talk to you a little bit about
um a recent concert that you went to all right dr kelly nominated me for the ice bucket challenge
so i guess i gotta do it but little does he know my weekly bath is coming up so this is gonna be
perfect then i won't have to take my weekly shower anymore i can just do the ice bucket challenge
so i got my little brother here and he's gonna do that my little brother and you can see he's
really happy to do this do it wow wow oh right gotta, I gotta nominate some people yet. So I want to nominate Mr. Fat Cheeto. Oh yeah. And then Lovina and Theo Vaughn.
I kind of like that a bit more.
I'm going to nominate Amish you too because I won't have to take my weekly bath in here.
So you guys can see he's got a great sense of humor.
He's got that quirky sense of humor.
So I really love that about him.
And your brother took advantage of that opportunity and not allowing you to have to later go back and take your weekly
bath so he threw several buckets uh several buckets at you how cold was that water uh
like we we let like the water run off i don't know how cold it was but we like let it run off
and stuff because we didn't have ice so we just let it run off well i thought it was pretty funny
and and were you joshing about your weekly bath,
or do you guys take a weekly bath?
Now, there's like one or two people that,
this is kind of where I got it.
There's this one older guy,
and he one time, I thought it was really funny,
he one time said, man, I wish it was Saturday
Now, he maybe did, but most Amish around here, like, if it's, like, really sweaty, like, through the summer, it's, like, maybe every other.
But most times, like, every night.
But, like, through the winter, like, it's every other or, like, maybe even, like maybe even like three days when you're like not sweating and stuff.
But that's just kind of like a running joke in like the Amish community.
And who the heck is Mr. Cheeto?
He's kind of like a comedian.
He posts like videos about doing HVAC.
Well, he's like, they're satire.
They're, like, you should, he, like, bypasses, like, electrical meters.
I thought it was really funny.
Is he one of yours that you guys repost each other on Instagram that I've seen?
Is he kind of an older Gen Xer, a white guy, kind of chunky?
He's got a blue hat on. I know who you're talking about.
All right, so it brings me to Theo Vaughn. Theo Vaughn is too young for me, but I've always had
a little crush on him. He's from Louisiana, and I think he's funny as heck. I'm all about a good
sense of humor. So you recently went to one of his events, so talk to me about that. You got a shirt
look at him so how did you have that opportunity talk to us a little bit about that and and it
looked uh looked like Theo was as down to earth as you think he might be yeah it was very very nice
uh you like I was amazed it was like it was like my first time ever meeting like
like someone like that so what happened was I was on Instagram all of a sudden.
Well, to start off, I didn't know who Theo Vaughn was, but Harmi introduced me to him because she was like, you're kind of like him in a way.
Almost like the way you talk and stuff.
And so I saw it saw it was like it
was like not too far away so what i did so i decided to buy the tickets but i i should have
been thinking because i didn't have like anyone to take me yet so i call up one of my cousins who's
both of his parents are like ex-sommish and stuff. So like he's completely English.
And so I called him to see if he wants to go.
So he came and picked me up. And then we went to like I think it was Minneapolis.
To like this huge stadium.
Like they had like elevators, long lines of stairs. They even had a bridge thing over the road where
there was glass and stuff where you could walk over. I thought he was really funny too.
That's the first concert I've ever been to. I had a lot of fun.
Did he ask you questions?
Like, were you the first, like, Amish person he had met?
I think I was, like, he never told me if I was or not,
but I think he was, like, really, really surprised to see me there
because, like, he even wanted my phone number and uh he gave me
like a free t-shirt and hat and he even gave my cousin like a free t-shirt and hat but yeah i'll
i'll be post uh i haven't made like a little video about it i have to post it on youtube yet
i'll probably post it on here too so and then you guys can go see go look at it and i like it was like i i had like a lot a lot
of fun it was it was like out of this world experience well i love that harmy harmy if
you're still able to talk what made what made you think of him and your comparison of of theo
with him because i agree with you they've got that quirky sense of humor not to call out Amish
dude but I'd have never said that he reminded me of Theo Vaughn I just thought that he would like
him because he's like goofy and um I mean Amish dude's hilarious don't get me wrong but Theo Vaughn
is like says crazy stuff Amish dude just very silly I mean, Theo's silly too. So just a good
sense of humor. You know, I thought I'd like him. Yeah, I agree that the good sense of humor. I
think that's so important. I wanted to ask you, Amish dude, when it comes to the English,
what is one of the biggest misconceptions that you think we, the English, have about you guys, the Amish?
What's one of the biggest misconceptions that you want to kind of set the record straight?
From the last couple months, I'd say, like, the biggest one, even sometimes in public, like, I get, like, you're not Amish, you have a phone. So I think that's, like, the biggest one, even sometimes in public, I get like, you're not Amish, you have a phone.
So I think that's like the biggest one.
Because I think there's, it's actually probably a very strong stereotype that Amish don't have phones.
Which, like, from my knowledge, like most Amish who have like businesses, they have like a phone shack, like end of their driveway.
Or like, they have some sort of phone, but not a smartphone. Like, those are prohibited.
So are there different than, because the way it was explained to me, but it could be incorrectly,
was that like, technology is now more accepted by some in Amish communities than it used to be. But there's also almost like a tier,
if you will, whereas some, and I don't know if you'd call them groups or clans or whatever the case may be, but whereas some are more apt to have like certain technology, whereas some don't use
technology at all. So can you kind of speak to that a little bit to get us a better understanding?
technology at all. So can you kind of speak to that a little bit to get us a better understanding?
Yeah, so there's different types of Amish. Like, there's even, like, Amish, like, there's new order,
and there's old order, and there's also, like, the strictest Amish, which I come from, which would
be called Swarton Trooper Amish. Now, these are even generalized group, because you have beach
Amish, like, you have have all these i can't even name
them all there's all these different amish and plus every single community that is has that
a name to it is slightly different so there's not a single i don't think there's a single amish
community that is same like that there's always like the tiniest rule that's a little bit different
from here and there but there's new order the people that were building stuff in north carolina i'd say they're new order i might
be wrong because it's it it's it's actually like crazy like how many different amish communities
there are and one thing i see happening a lot is uh like one serial type goes for all Amish because there's Amish in Ohio that
they they have like lap like computers for their businesses they have electricity and like
that's like they're basically in they're almost English but they still speak the language and
they still kind of live the lifestyle like when people would see people like when English people
would see Amish people like that they would call them they're not Amish which they I'd say they still are they're
just higher up like maybe new order or old order is a bit stricter but that's still way newer than
than what would what you call a swarting trooper okay and are you and do when someone says that
do you take that like as almost because you're using the do you, when someone says that, do you take that like as almost, because you're using the word stereotype.
So when someone says that, do you get like offended by that?
Or do you just take it as, well, you know what, they just don't know.
And it's just a lack of knowledge.
Well, it, it depends like on how the person takes it.
Well, if you explain it and they still do it,
yet, like, it doesn't offend me,
but it annoys me a little bit.
But I guess, like, they don't know better.
But other than that, like, if you explain it
and they understand, like, that doesn't bother me at all.
Okay, that's a perfectly fair answer.
Because I would like to think that no one would intentionally say something to tick you off or to be offensive, right? I think it comes from a place of just not knowing. And it's kind of like me putting you through the third degree about, are you sure you're Amish? Are you a parody account?
And I'm sure at one point, and it's okay, there was probably some aggravation with me as well
because I kept harping on it. But it's like, you don't, I just didn't know. And some of the things
like in my mind that I think of being quote, unquote, Amish that I saw on your accounts and
saw you doing, it confused me, right? But now, as I'm seeking to understand, it's just letting me know that that's why, you
know, a space like this is really good, because it gives people an opportunity, like Carmi
said, to talk to you and kind of to get to know you.
I see your hand, Jimmy, so go ahead.
Did you have something else you wanted to ask Amistud?
Well, going off of what you said a little bit ago, is there any misconceptions English have about Amish?
Or, I mean, Amish have about English?
Yeah, Amish have about English. That's what I thought he meant. The opposite.
Like maybe something that you thought that like was, oh, that's stereotypic English.
But as you're as you're doing spaces like this and you've got to know Harmy and you've kind of interacted in spaces with more English, you've kind of realized like, oh, you know what?
That was kind of a stereotype on my part
yeah like the only like i'm trying to uh
i'm trying to think of like some right now but i i don't i can't really think of
any right now yeah that's good yeah that's okay think about it. We can come back to it. Go ahead, Tigerman, and then we'll go to Bob.
So I've heard you mention party several times.
So I'm interested in what is an Amish party like and also dating?
Maybe you can speak to how Amish date.
I'm going to have to tell you the same thing I told Bubba.
One question, so pick which one.
Well, I mean, that kind of goes along with it, Spunky.
Dating and partying kind of go together.
Partying and dating go along?
Well, you take your date to a party.
They kind of do something.
I just didn't want Bubba to think I was showing favoritism.
Yeah, so the parties, if you want a very simple,
it's just a bunch of Amish kids with big stereos and just listening to music and most times drinking alcohol.
That sounds like the 80s.
Basically, a boombox alcohol and music.
Well, now it's like there's sometimes vapes there too so
like since okay so are the vapes like regular cigarettes are they vaping some weed
no they're like they're like regular i think yeah okay okay because you know a lot of vapors they
got the weed going on oh really maybe not in the omish community but in the english community for sure oh
huh all right did that answer your question tiger are you confident to know about the
parties with the dating i don't want to ask another question because i'll get beat up
oh you'll be okay y'all got y'all know to have thick skin in my spaces the rest of you in trouble
go ahead bob how are you and thank you welcome to stage what you what you want to ask amish dude
yeah i just want to go back he was talking about like the different sex of uh you know different
types of amish people but i was interested to know if he'd ever met anyone out of the hutterite
community um they're they're kind of similar but a different i had the pleasure of meeting somebody
and i just didn't know the difference between the two you know i wonder about i've always wondered
and now i got the opportunity and i thank you for coming on here buddy uh i have a lot of fun
like being on my phone so uh so to be honest i don't know much about the, like, I don't really know anything about the Hodorites. Like, all I know
like the Amish have like New Order, Old
Order, they're just another sect of
like Mennonites, you'd say.
about what I've figured out, man.
Thanks for answering my question.
Yeah, because I don't, to be honest, I don't know too much about like mennonites because there's not really any around
them i have an aunt that's that's like holerman which is like another sect of mennonites and
there's also horse and bucky mennonites but, but most Mennonites, they dress modestly, and then they drive cars.
Some Mennonites are not allowed to listen to music off of the radio.
They can only listen to gospel music, and some are not allowed to date.
So it varies, but there's also some that would be called horse and bucky Mennonites.
Those are the ones that drive Horse and Bucky.
So it's vast. It's very vast.
So you may have already answered this, and I may have missed it,
but were the Mennonites at one time part of the Amish community,
and they broke off, or have they always been separate?
So the way it worked was, from my understanding,
all this stuff I learned on my phone because we don't get,
I never got taught history in school, but I always loved history.
I like looking at history.
So the way it worked was back, someone earlier said it was like
when the Protestants, there was like a group of people who didn't want to, like, didn't want to, want the church and the government to intermingle, so the Antibaptists were a thing, which they were, they weren't going to get baptized until they were of age, and would be responsible for, you know, their decision,
would be responsible for, you know, their decision.
And then after a while, after the Anabaptists were a thing,
the Mennonites became a thing.
And then, was it 100 years after the Mennonites were created,
there was a group of people who was thinking like the Mennonites are going,
they're going, a word, a lack of better words would be,
they're getting too worldly.
And this was back in like the 16 or 1700s.
But it was back in that time.
And then the Amish split off of that.
So the Amish were like the last part of the entire Anabaptist tree off of, what was it, Protestant or Catholic church? I'm not quite sure.
Because any church outside of the Amish, I don't really understand.
Yeah, that's fair enough. That's a good, and I love that if you know the answer,
you give the answer, and if you don't, you just admit it. That's the way to be, right?
I always say there's way too many people that try to pull the wool over people's eyes. We call them
the experts of X, right? So thank you for not pretending to be an expert when in fact you just
are telling us what you know and not trying to pull the wool over anybody else's eyes. That's
always the way to be. Let me take a minute to let Gacon reset the room and then if you will,
Gacon or Brent, you guys call on Kevin. I need to run and check on something real quick,
so keep it going and I'll be right back. All right, thank you again everyone for being here
to listen to this great space and thank you again Amish Jude for answering all of our
questions and being a great willing speaker please everyone in the
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which we have thoroughly enjoyed.
So we would really, really appreciate if you guys do us that favor,
repost, quote, post the space,
and we will go back and repost your quote posts.
So I think as Spunky is away, Brent, do you want to,
do you want to do the honors?
Yeah. Hey, Kevinvin you're next and go ahead and ask your question for the amish dude all right my only question is quick easy answer i don't know whether or not they follow the bible
or if that's what they believe in and i wanted to just share with him that Minneapolis has those things over the roads
it's called a skyway and downtown they've got 80 blocks approximately that are connected by those
for the reason of the winters there uh oftentimes get 30 to 40 below zero with a 10 mile an hour
breeze you got 10 50 below chill factor so the sidewalks are slippery and
it's not pleasant to walk outside so those skyways are real convenient in the winter time
and thanks for the space wow i i never knew that before so like the your question on like
if that like the hamees believe in the bible yes that like the hame Amish believe in the Bible, yes, the Amish do believe in God.
Now, a lot of the way the Amish are when it comes to doing with the Bible, it's more of like, here's a few parts out of the Bible.
And then there's rules by it.
But in our Amish community, there's rules by it, but, like, there's, in, in our Amish
communities, there's, like, no Bible studies, nothing like that, but there's other, like,
some other communities, they do have Bible studies, and, uh, because some of the stricter
ones, like, the ones that we are in, sometimes, like, the Bible studies are, like, forbidden
for some reason, I'm not quite sure why, but that's the way it is.
But yes, we do believe in God.
And hopefully that answers your question.
Anyone else here care to ask your question
or want to come up on stage and ask,
please request a mic and we'll gather you right up.
I guess I'll jump in and ask a question since Spunky's still gone.
So kind of with regard to what Kevin just asked, what you mentioned earlier, how the church services work and how the preaching sort of works.
Do you guys talk about, like, Bible passages through the preaching?
Like, do they preach about the Bible passages?
Or is that something you don't know because maybe they're speaking in the high German and you're not quite sure?
you know like i i understand when they're like when they're when they're preaching you can piece
things together and like clearly understand it but yes that's they they read like straight out
of the bible when they're preaching and then also they like point out like what you can learn from
it and like the lessons from it like let's say dan, when Daniel was, you know, stuck with those lions, like,
if you truly believe in God, you know, anything's possible. Even, you know, not getting eaten by
lions. Awesome. Thank you. Well, and with all the experiences, for those that didn't hear
the list of things that Amish dude has been through at such an early age in his life, let me recap that for you.
At three years old, he fell off a 10-foot ladder.
At five years old, he couldn't walk due to Lyme disease.
At 12 years old, he rolled out of the buggy um so he's had he's had a lot
uh a lot of challenges and so I'm sure you must attribute uh your faith to how you got through a
lot of that correct yeah yeah so I I can tell you guys the story of when I rolled the buggy so
I was one morning it was it was a I think it was
like a Friday morning or was it Thursday I'm not quite sure anymore but it was one morning this
we had this horse I was like 12 years old and I was driving me and my little brother we were
driving to school and we were going up this hill and all of a sudden this horse he spooked
something in the ditch I think I to this day i still don't know what it was
but yeah so this we're going up this hill all of a sudden this horse stopped a little bit he didn't
stop for long and this horse all of a sudden he turned right right into the ditch and it was kind
it was a bit steep so it was it was a yard though it's's like someone lived on the hill there. And they quickly turned to the right, and they tipped the bucky.
And so I believe I got dragged in the bucky a little bit because it happened so fast.
It was like three seconds, like boom, boom, boom.
And then the bucky was going away, I was left on the left on the grass now this horse he tipped the
bucky and they ran like he ran down the hill and then he ran through a fence and then stopped
and me out from getting dragged I strained my back a little bit and got a concussion so that day I
couldn't keep any food down anything I tried to eat eat. I just, you know, puked it out.
And my little brother, he got really lucky.
Like, he got bruises on his legs and stuff, but, like, it wasn't hurt at all.
But later that night, since I couldn't keep anything down anymore, you know, I had to go to the ER.
But it was, like, the emergency thing at the hospital, and they gave me like,
they had like stuff in a bag, and they put that stuff in my arm, and then a couple hours later,
they let me go out, because like there was nothing, we thought maybe there was something like,
make sure there's nothing like internal bleeding or anything like that, just like a minor concussion,
internal bleeding or anything like that, just like a minor concussion, and, and, uh, and
a sore back for a couple days, and the first thing, the first thing I ate after I got off
the hospital was, uh, we went to a gas station, and I got myself a cheeseburger, and I think
it was pop, and then that was, that was really good, so I kinda had a, that, the day started
off kinda bad, but it ended off in a pretty good way, cause I kind of had a, the day started off kind of bad,
but it ended off in a pretty good way because I got to eat a cheeseburger.
But I had a lot of fun, well, eating the cheeseburger I did
because I could keep the food down.
And you guys don't do fast food often, right?
So that was like a real treat.
It was like, I don't think I could often, right? So that was like a real treat. Yeah, it was.
I don't think I could eat it every day,
Well, I bet some of the people in this space eat cheeseburgers just about every single day.
So see, look how good we have it.
Look how good we have it.
So talk to me a little bit.
We only have about 15 minutes left.
Everybody knows I'm the timekeeper.
I want to value your time. time and again thank you so much excuse me for coming but um okay let's get to
lockjaw and then we'll uh kind of wind things up go ahead lockjaw every time i see your name i have
to laugh i mean seriously that's a great name people People often wish I had Lockjaw.
I'm just going to throw that out there.
Well, they tried it, and they failed with me.
So when you get your rumspring, those who decide to go with the English,
is there already a place set up for them to live and they just
got to find a job or do they got to go through like everything?
They got to find a house, job, all that.
So when you leave Thamish, you're basically on your own.
Like you are on your own, but most times the person that picks you up, like, because you
kind of, when you leave Th you leave damage you sneak out of
damage you don't tell anyone when you do it because like they wouldn't let you if uh if you
told them right and so you you do sneak you do sneak out someone picks you up now most times
they're not uh like there's already a place place where other ex-Amish are.
Where, like, most times when someone does leave the Amish, they already have, like, they already have a job.
They already have a place to stay.
So they're all ready to, like, rock and roll in the English world.
Did we lose you or were you finished saying what you were trying to say?
Did you have a follow-up there?
Does anybody, Tigerman, did you have another question?
If you have another question, go ahead.
Do it now or forever hold your tongue.
Listen, I swear you are my wife's twin sister.
Well, now, where are you?
You sound like you're taking a shower.
No, that's my wife in there.
She's blow-drying her hair, I guess, but... Well, Lord, where are you? You sound like you're taking a shower. No, that's my wife in there. She's blow-drying her hair, I guess.
Well, Lord have mercy. You're going to have to mute up and go someplace else. We can't even hardly hear you.
I'm sorry. You asked me a question, so I'm answering it.
Well, hurry up. Go, because now we can't even hardly hear you.
Okay. okay i don't have a question though but now i've enjoyed listening i've enjoyed listening and learning about the amish tonight like i said i appreciate the amish and we have a
amish community in our area in our state and uh actually they make really fine quality furniture
i've they have they make the most comfortable and i'm talking about wooden
chairs that you will ever sit in i mean absolutely phenomenal
well you are uh you're into what aren't you into carpentry didn't you tell me your
construction armistead which one is construction i, I like frame houses, put roofs on it.
I have no experience in building furniture, but I have experience in helping X how many
like deliver it out west.
Like a couple of years ago, I went like twice out west, like helping people deliver furniture
like in-house where you walk in people's houses.
Well, you knock first, of course, and then you put it together like the table and stuff you mean the Amish knock on the
doors like everybody else I don't just bust up into somebody's house not when it's like stranger's
house but but yeah I went with one time I went with someone English and the other time I went
with someone ex-Amish we went out west like to California and Utah Nevada and
we delivered furniture and I had a lot of fun doing that but yeah so Amish furniture there's
like there's it's unmatched there's no other furniture like that well I just want to thank
you again for your time I want to thank you for your patience because I am full of questions, right?
And I was very, very concerned that you were possibly a parody account and all that stuff.
So Amish dude, you are good in my book and I would love to have you back anytime.
Of course, you're welcome to space as always.
And I just really appreciate you taking these questions and answering them so candidly.
So I want to honor that. Gay Con, any final thoughts or any final questions for Amish Dude?
We really, I really appreciate it. I was going to come, I was going to come listen anyway when I saw
Spunky put it on her timeline, so I'm glad I could step in and co-host at the last minute, and I
appreciate all your honesty and your answers.
And I appreciate the follow.
All right, Brent, what you got to say?
It's been a great space, huh?
Hey, and I'm going to apologize too to the Amish dude because I kind of felt the same
And that's why we had like a little group chat there today so I appreciate you being very respectful and attending and one thing I do want
to say is being I live in Pennsylvania I'll say I'm surrounded by a lot of like Amish and
even some Mennonites and actually I'm sure you've probably heard maybe some have it but
we had a farm here at the Amos Miller Farm I'm sure maybe you probably heard, maybe some have it, but we had a farm here, the Amos Miller Farm.
I'm sure maybe you might have heard of it, but he had had raids with the federal government with their overreach programs and all that.
And he actually did gain some traction from Thomas Massey, clear down Kentucky, clear up here in Pennsylvania when some of our useless people did very little for them so
uh I'll say like I said you guys do a great job with like uh not not in all the uh technology
stuff and I really appreciate the fact of like how hard working they are because like I said
I'm surrounded by them I know the ones you build houses, sort of almost like what you do. And I appreciate you coming in and giving us your time.
You have any closing thoughts, Amish dude?
I guess thank you for having me.
And I look forward to doing more, guess non-amish things and i guess i probably i probably
want to help with uh people thinking i'm not amish but i i like doing it i have like a i don't know
i just love doing things i've never done before well i love that and i love that you're so young
and so open to it so we do appreciate you i going to give a shout out to my good friend down there, Army.
I hadn't seen him in a while.
Roy, I love you and we miss you.
For you guys that don't know, he used to be one of my co-hosts and he still has a spot
on stage anytime he wants it.
You guys look around this space.
We have tons of great Patriots in here.
We've got a lot of space hosts.
We've got a lot of other people.
I don't know why the hell he hopped out, but I'm playing his song anyway. Roy, I hope you're in the
basement somewhere listening along with those nine other Anons that like to be down there tonight for
whatever reason. But this one's going out to all our military, to all our veterans. We love you and
we support you always. And you guys, thanks again for being here being here tonight again it means a lot when you come
in real time we want to thank everybody that goes back and listens to the recording um everybody
that came to support us tonight and and brent you know gay con you know i couldn't do these spaces
without you but above all just all the listeners that come every single time we see you down there
we appreciate you and these spaces are for you.
Roy, get your ass back in here. There you are. This one's going out to you. Love you. Get off
social media for the weekend. Unplug. Go touch the grass. Go hug the neck of somebody you love
and stay off of X at least until my next space. Have a good one, you guys.
Going out to you, Roy. Big love.
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A hundred stripes, a hundred stories.
It's the pledge of allegiance on the 4th of July.
It's some handwritten letters from home it's some sleepless nights alone it's his newborn baby he
left with his wife mr. red and white and blue
to the swamps of Louisiana
Golden Coast of California.
Uncle Sam's the only family he's got.
His purple heartbeat won't stop.
And his 18th birthday was the day he was born. Oh Baby, you're gonna cry.
He was a man of the house when you were born. His family is proud but torn.
If you knew him, you would understand.
He was raised on how to be brave, just to see the fly away.
And then he came home with only one name. one you'll pay you
he's Marching line! Marching line!