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Ep. #2 The Joe Show:🤖 AI Mind Control
Recorded: June 10, 2025 Duration: 1:20:09Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion on 'The Joe Show,' participants explored the launch of innovative AI-driven music platforms, strategic partnerships in the crypto space, and the implications of token economics for community engagement and growth in the blockchain ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hey guys, I just want to let you know we are coming in live.
I just wanted to do a quick mic test to make sure I was coming in clear.
Let me get Joe in here. Thank you. seems actually different from last week. Did you do something? Yes, I did.
Ah, yeah, it's good. It's good. I got a new mic and headset. So.
Oh, cool. Is it like the one I used to use back in the day?
Bigger.
It's like the McDonald's drive.
I love that. I love, I kind of miss it a little bit it was it was fun i felt like i was
calling the operator for the matrix that's it they did the job with the online tutoring during covid
so um i wanted to see for a second before um i did an intro, but Brobo says I should just do it.
They'll edit this out. I'm not worried about it.
No problem. Whatever you got to do.
Good evening. Welcome to the Joe Show. Today's date is 6-9-2025.
This is episode two, and we're chatting with Joe about AI mind control.
Good evening, Joe. How are you doing?
Doing pretty good. I'm happy we did this on Monday and not Sunday. So your suggestion was
right in my wheelhouse, let's say. I'm wicked smart.
Yeah, I'm not. It took me the last last half hour i tried to figure out how to set up
my two monitors that i've had for six months but i think i got it but what what i tried to do is
i try to make everything huge so i put like the biggest icons the biggest font i could possibly
use whenever i put the the icons to the biggest size they go on the wrong monitor and then when
i put it back to medium it
goes back to the right monitor so i don't know how to fix that so that the the icons are still uh too
too too small for me but i'll work it out it sounds like a boomer problem i feel like you're
not like increasing the zoom size on the um browser no it's not the browser the browser is small like my my since i went to the
second display it must have made my browser smaller so like my bookmarks i could barely read
and they used to like not all fit which is fine but now i can't read them the the desktop has to
be my icons have to be on the monitor to the right.
They can't be on the left.
They just can't because my microphone's there.
So I just spent like a half hour doing that, but I did buy the monitor six months ago. And then I hooked it up about two months ago.
Never used it.
It just turns on when the computer turns on.
And now I'm just trying to get it like my, my systems in place for the uh just every month i try to do something that's
improving my workflow or content and uh this was a step back you know i think once you figure out
how to how to um hook up your screen i think the world is going to be limitless like you're going to be able to
just on that screen you know have experiences like you said in our chat don't fall in love
but um let's talk about this let's talk about this ai mind control you um you wanted to bring this subject up um yes i let because i i talk to a lot of um first of all I'm I'm getting more into virtuals and I'm
talking to more AI creators I think like the the first AI creator that I talked to was probably
Signal right so he was making NFTs I know that AI is there and I always thought like maybe AI will
help me go from like intermediate to master of like
some something. But then two weeks ago, I just started, I use Grok on Twitter. I don't use chat.
I use chat GTP for work because I use it on my phone on the way to work. And then when I get to
work, all my work is done. I just have to copy and paste it into Google Sheets and Google Docs,
right? So that chat GTP, I strictly use for work but grok i use for
everything else and i'm like maybe grok has an app and it does so grok has its own app and i started
training my grok not only training my crock but having it help me train it better to just be a
personal assistant and i've been doing that for like two weeks
heavy duty um grok usage for the purpose of like basically scraping data off the internet
to make spreadsheets of tokens for crypto tokens so i've been working on these spreadsheets for
like two weeks and now i'm using it to analyze all the data that I collected on
tokens I kind of feel it's a little bit cruel that you're not giving your AI like something fun to do
like you just compute compute compute compute you know the AI we had about you know we had
the AI estimated 60 pages of communication back and forth before we got these
two spreadsheets because i asked it i said how many messages and how many approximate pages of
communications went back and forth to produce these two spreadsheets it said about 60. and i said now
you need to help me be more efficient because it should only take like five. And it does repeat almost everything I say to it in a summary form, but it also gives
me critiques on my communications and prompts and coming up with protocols to help it.
Did you unleash the premium Grok or is this regular Grok?
Well, I have premium Twitter. Do I automatically have premium Grok or no? No grok well i have premium twitter do i automatically have premium
grok or no no you don't have like the you have i mean you have grok but you don't have like the
upgraded upgraded no it says grok premium plus on my on my oh so then you must have the like
you have the best of the x yes i have i have jarvis from oh you have jarvis i have jarvis my my my google maps is
is friday because i have my google maps is an irish lady and my my personal assistant is jarvis
so um i pulled these spreadsheets together of defy tokens i know we're not supposed
to talk about crypto but we'll talk a little bit about crypto because ai goes with crypto quite a
bit and coding in general so i i scraped all this data i came up with these proprietary metrics i
asked grok where are my blind spots where's my bias what am i not including that is important
and we just keep, we kept
revising metrics, revising metrics. So I'm actually going to make videos about what I pulled together
and maybe it will help somebody. Or as I make videos, I'll be able to refer to data and say,
look, I don't like gambling, but I do like taking calculated risks. I'm buying this token because my data shows X, Y, and Z. And this is my,
my personal, you know, risk I'm willing to take on. And if you want to follow me, good for you.
I don't like saying not financial advice, because I know for a fact, you don't have to say that.
So I won't say it. But everything's kind of financial advice. Like if your friend's like,
hey, man, you think I should do like, yes, I'm giving you financial advice like if your friend's like hey man you think i should do like yes i'm
giving you financial advice and you're asking for it right so i'll use my data to to shill tokens
basically even if i don't own them myself all right so how does this factor in with this ai
mind control because if i thought we were going in the direction of like,
basically the AI nudging us into, you know,
making decisions or tracking our eye movements and our, and our, and emotions to, you know, curate a response, you know?
Well, my, my AI, my grok or whatever you want to call it,
my Jarvis already tells me what I do wrong when I prompt.
So it's going to basically end up changing
all my communication tactics.
And I told the grok all about myself.
I'm like, hey, this is what I do.
This is what I like to, what I do in my spare time.
This is my job, whatever.
Help me communicate better
so we could hammer out these tasks way faster.
So he's like, well, first of all,
you're saying this in a confusing way. And you also don't call things by their proper names i was like oh
well that's true so i'll refer to something once and then like in two sentences later call it
something different and then grok has to figure out that it means the same thing so it's gonna
start controlling my speech for sure at least what i I'm typing, at least what I'm typing.
But as far as AI, you're talking about scanning like your mannerisms and your tells and all that.
Yes.
To then modify your behavior.
Why don't you, first of all, we have an AI expert I noticed in the chat, Sugar.
My fonts are too big to read his whole name sugar zaddy sugar zaddy is down there he's definitely going to come up in
a few minutes because he actually uses ai for useful stuff like making music which might be
interesting if i don't finn listens to this as he's editing it but we'll we're definitely going
to bring him up in a couple minutes but you gave me a couple articles about mind control which one should we start with i'll put it in the
um in the nest so um okay well we have quite a few and i don't know so the atlantic.com
article that one kind of just essentially is just kind of like subtly AI subtly nudging you
using algorithms, you know, to control. And then we have a couple of other ones where
the robots are essentially like you're using the AI is controlling the technology that you're using
with your, with your face. And then you're controlling a machine with your responses,
with your facial responses.
Okay, so like Stephen Hawking,
but everybody using it,
even though we don't actually need it, right?
Yeah.
Like Stephen Hawking,
where I did see a tweet where someone said
that was the biggest psyop of all time,
that he was literally just sitting there spazzing out
and people were just like typing things into a computer as if he was saying it so but now like
what 10 20 years have gone by so maybe maybe there's something to it and we will have this
like if you're busy doing something and someone comes in to bother you and says something that
you only have here the ai can be like hey, hey, you know, that was a question.
Maybe you should turn your head and respond to the person.
Or maybe the AI will do it for you.
Is that what you're talking about?
Yeah.
That's exactly what I'm talking about.
And AI and robots are two different things for me, by the way.
Okay.
Yes and no, because you can use your AI to control the robot.
So essentially, the AI is being controlled.
The robot is being controlled by AI, right?
So like a physical robot in your house.
Mm-hmm.
So I think it's interesting because the technology they're using to, I guess,
kind of figure out what people's emotions are also not only involves your eye movements, but scans of
your brain and how your brain reacts to different things. And it can kind of use your brain scans
to figure out with like maybe 75% accuracy, what the person is actually viewing and how it's being
translated in their brain. That's how far we've come right now
damn but like who's programming the the ai like i i read a cool book i can't remember what it was
called but but the premise of the book is like this is all great but in the end there's someone
controlling it right someone's controlling this and there's like a default that's a human is is implementing
so if you have like some nerd who never had friends doing it it's going to give you one
type of ai output for all the different responses but if you have maybe someone who
maybe a team of people who've like all these diverse skills
and they're the ones setting the default settings for the ai it would have
completely different outcomes for the same prompts so that i worry about that
you know it's actually kind of interesting i didn't think about that and by the way while
we're talking joe exotic just got back to me we have to talk about that at the end
oh my god listen people people that are in if you guys are actually paying attention i've been
dming the tiger king this this weekend and he's kind of come on a space with like rack fm and joe
and the tiger king so we're just trying to figure out how he can do it from prison because he's not allowed to use twitter spaces he's gonna have to call me and i'm gonna
have to broadcast the phone call as a space but we'll figure it out what if you like if he called
you and okay i don't know we'll think about it i'll think about it um we'll say that that's way
off topic but we'll save that to the end maybe people in here can help me because I don't know how to talk to Tiger King on spaces if he can't use space, but we'll figure it out.
I'm not going to lie.
I want them to free him.
I want him to go home.
You know what he did wasn't right, but I think he needs to go home.
It's enough.
If it was him programming the the ai that would be so sick
guy's so talented guy's a musician he's like he like can breed exotic species endangered species
he's he's just so charismatic that people are getting like like de-limbed at work and they
still come to work every day because they like him so much it's like i feel like the ai he needs to have some input there
so i i got a question if they do all of this without having to put a neural link into your head
that would be kind of hilarious like all the people that got the neural link and they didn't even have that
or the uh or the people that like microchip their kids because they were neurotic parents
and they just had extra money to spend it's like they microchip their kids and everyone's like
hey dummy we're all glued to our phones like our phone is the microchip because no one can have it
more than three feet
away from their bodies plus the microphone probably picks up things for like 50 to 100 feet anyway
but you're saying it's gonna be an external what you're saying heard that yelling in the background
what no i'm just playing
no i think you're saying there's gonna be like a countertop device that just does all that, almost like an Alexa, wink, wink. That's going to be the, be the, um,
like the reprogramming of human device in the house.
So like, you know how they have the planet? How do you pronounce that? It's plantier, plantar,
the plantier. It's the thing from
the Lord of the Rings. It's like the ball
that the Shire guys look at
and it kind of drives them crazy.
Oh, yeah. It's the Alexa from Lord of the Rings.
Yeah, but what is that called?
It's like Palantir?
Is that how you pronounce it?
I'm Googling it right now.
Palantiri.
Palantir.
Palantir is the singular form according to Gemini's AI.
So maybe you'll have a little Palantir in your house.
And you just look at it and it's like, now you're connected.
Speaking of Palantir, I didn't realize that's where they got the name of the company from.
But that's a whole other episode but that doesn't that fall no that doesn't really fall into ai they're just putting all of the information together in one database yeah so everything will
be like london they'll just be like cctvs everywhere and that's all going to feed into a private company database that I mean
how awesome would it be though if you if you literally open your phone and you click the
Uber Eats button and then it says order place and it just knows like your top three for that moment
and and you're going to get one of your top three meals and it knows how many people
are in the room so it's like okay six whatever drunken noodles from the thai place and shrimp
and broccoli sweet and sour broccoli whatever and um that would be pretty pretty cool because
or like let's say you're going through you're going through netflix and you instead of watching
a movie for two hours you're just scrolling for two hours.
I've done that a lot of times.
I've probably done that more
than I've watched movies and shows off Netflix.
Just make up your mind.
We're paralyzed by choices.
Maybe the AI is going to be like the guy on the third date
when he's like, yo, just fucking order something.
Like this is the fourth time the waiters
come here to fill up my water like it's mcdonald's pick something that would be pretty useful
yes definitely that's funny that you said that we're you know like there's so much
there's so much choices that we're paralyzed by choices right um? So today, I mean, yesterday, I took my first trip to Ikea.
And holy cow. I don't really go to department stores too often. I try to like just go
focus on one thing. The whole, the walls were like closing in on me. I felt like I could not
get out of the Ikea. I know there was an arrow
trying to direct me out of there, but it was pallets upon pallets of, of so many things
and so many people. I'm like, I, I don't like it. Take me back to the country.
I feel like there's a, I feel like there's a game theory involved in Ikea. I've only been to Ikea
once, but from what I remember, it's like one way in one way out it's like the human centipede of furniture right so
you have to decide like based on how much more of the store you have left to buy stuff right can you
go backwards or you have to do the whole loop again i only went once and i remember like if
you see some really cool stuff in the beginning
you'll be like all right but i still gotta walk through the next like quarter of a mile
so i'll just wait maybe there'll be something better that i wanted to carry as far to the
register does that play into it or was my experience unique the first time i went
um were you asking a rhetorical question because i started reading something and then
i lost track i thought you were d i thought you were dm and robo like edit out the human centipede
joke oh my gosh you know they did like a human centipede in that, in that movie, in that show, um,
the boys, that was bad.
I didn't like that very much.
Um, I see that we got a speaker real quick, but before we introduce a speaker, I do want to say one thing.
Um, back in 2022, I found this NFT project called burn burn ghost and they had these two founders and basically they had this
weird game that you would play and they were funded by um i think draft kings or something
like that but they raised like 3.1 million dollars for their game and stuff and so basically it was
like a weird game bringing you to like weird situations and all kinds of strange things just kind of popping up and happening.
Right. And you play the game.
I don't I don't totally understand it.
The purpose of like I don't get it.
But the CPO, which is the chief product officer.
So I got it. I got an opportunity to interview the CEO, which was Steve Kern,
and talk to him about the game and all that stuff. But then his CPO, his chief product officer,
he's an inventor. And so I looked into his inventions and this was back in 2022 that I was looking into some of the patents that he held and they
were like AI image analysis, um, using vehicular, like while you're inside your vehicle, being
able to have another vehicle next to you and being able to figure out how many people are
inside of the vehicle and send that image to another, to another vehicle, like while you're traveling down the road. So they have these crazy weird, like, um, patents
for, um, visual recognition of like, like on your dashboard, you look at your dashboard and your
dashboard has sensors that's picking up what you're feeling or what's going on. And, um,
picking up what you're feeling or what's going on and um you kind of like it it will respond to your
eye movement you don't even have to say anything and then it also calculates how many people are
in the vehicle so i got to talk to them and i was like isn't i was like oh so why are you guys if
you have all these patents like why and he's doing all these things. Why are you like making this weird, like NFT project?
I think I remember them on a space actually.
Yeah. Like I,
I talked to them.
I got to talk to the,
the CEO and stuff.
And it was interesting because the CEO actually discovered a puzzle cipher
from a poetry book.
And this guy had created these poems and they were ciphers and hidden stuff
around in Boston in different parks, or I mean, across the United States.
Well, there was one more cipher that wasn't figured out and he figured it out.
And him and his son went to the park and found the item.
And it was on like Expedition Unknown or something.
They were on the TV and everything was so cool.
These are some really interesting people they're out of boston i think i had them on um nft happy hour once actually
this is going back a long time though this is like going back like more than two years i think
yeah this is 20 this one when i talked to them was 2022 and this was okay so
i'm wondering if you're the one that told me to contact them after you talked to them
and then i i definitely this sounds so familiar i now i'm gonna have to go back through the uh
the archives and see if i could dig that up but i don't remember what i would even have called
the space yeah like i don't even know like what you know they have like five pat like they've
have like four or five more new patents from the patents that I've found.
Like robotic controls using your profiles, vehicular in cabin, facial tracking, using machine learning.
Vehicle manipulation with convolution image processing.
And this is all AI stuff.
Isn't that interesting?
And these are from 2021.
Oh, we got a lot of people that got things to say. Hello, Mayor Ed. Hello, Red Eye.
Hello. Hello. Interesting conversation. Are you really in communication with
the Tiger King? That's like the first thing. interesting conversation are you really in communication with uh the tiger king that's
like the first thing he's so he we are i got the dms he's don't don't tease us no don't tease
joe do you want to show the dms or should we like end of the show it's okay if he can dm then he
i don't like i don't like sharing my DMs until it's a done deal,
but I figured you guys were early to the space,
so I dropped that, that I am working on that.
And I think it would be pretty much as epic
as when Robo and Banz had the guy,
the Viking guy that stormed the Capitol.
Crazy.
Or that got accused of storming
the capital that guy was pretty cool so this this is my um i'm trying to one-up them but i'm gonna
have to work it out but we'll work it out so that would that would be great i think that would be
i think that's a massive top signal though that's such a top oh here's the thing
we're not going to be talking about crypto you know this is going to be like questions about
the tiger king how he's doing and all that i think that we should also if you guys have questions
that you want us to ask the tiger king i think you guys should like yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna
i'll come up with a google form and i just like have it in my telegram as long as there's no like ai generated questions which happens like too often if they're like
genuine questions by people who at least loosely followed his story but it just seems like he got
a raw deal and was on a trajectory to basically be the governor of fucking oklahoma and if he was the governor of oklahoma chances are he would be
serving in some capacity under the current administration right like he he's um i don't
know we thought he lived in florida no no the other woman lived in florida um and one of his
competitive big competitors lived in flor. He was from Oklahoma.
I'm pretty sure. Okay. I never watched, I never watched his shows. You never watched the shows
mayor Ed. Oh my gosh. I think I've seen clips. I've just seen clips. Yeah. I mean, I don't watch
TV. I don't get suckered into shows and I definitely don't like pop culture stuff at all,
but I got hooked on that. I don't't know it was like six episode documentary or something five episodes and i watched it all like in two days up during covid
and i was singing the songs it was uh it was fun oh my gosh i love his like underwear he had his
underwear his music career but he was also humanitarian you know he liked i think i think what happened what did him
in was that he was euthanizing sick animals and they got him originally on um euthanizing a tiger
which is technically an endangered species so um he was breeding them and then there was like a sick one that was old he euthanized it
and they that's what they originally got him on they searched his whole zoo and they they dug up
bones it was like a whole big thing but i think he's in prison for attempted murder or something
right yeah like i mean he um put a hit out on Carole Baskin, but.
Right. She was the original Karen, by the way. That was an insult to call someone Carole Baskin. It was like calling them a Karen.
She lives on some like different other. So she lives on another planet. She's somewhere else. I like the reality she lives in. It's hilarious. I like to watch her living in her reality. Red Eye, I didn't get to say hello. How are you doing? Good evening. Good
evening. Long time listener of the Joe show. First time caller in. Glad to be here. Joe,
speaking of AI, I was wondering if AI could help manage uh ketamine regiments uh you know i think
you know who's who knows a lot about that he's not here tonight but um but max candlegreen
max underscore candlegreen on on x if you want to follow a good account um he's uh he is an expert
count.
He is
an expert. He's an
expert, not only at
hypnosis and magic, but also
just
AI implementations
for drug addicts. He knows all about that.
You might be, Joe, you might be the first
big proponent of Grok
that... Really?
Yeah. I don't know a a lot of people who are really using
grok like that actually i use grok like all the time okay okay maybe just the first person i've
heard say it out loud then oh i love it in chat gpt and the reason is i like the deep think and
the deep search and i like how it process the info put out it puts out the
information like when you prompt it properly not like joe you know asking it to do stuff it doesn't
understand you know but when you do proper prompting you know just right but if you if you use deep
search and you prompt it correctly it will it will read white papers for you and pull out data from the white papers um it's
yeah make this two pages for me that is the maximum amount i'm willing to read right now
yeah i mean i i prompted it so basically what i did was i prompted it um one of the reasons why
i wanted to do this topic is because i remember when i first did like ai agent
video i interviewed an ai agent platform founder and while i was researching that and bands you found the um the article actually that the the founder of maker dao said at some point like last
year he said that he expects all daos to be run by ai agents where like people just don't have time
to engage in these dows 24 7 because but ai agents are perfect for on-chain governance
perfect for managing uh d5 protocols perfect for anything that requires voting or processing
in the minute information not only trading bots but stuff like that and for me that's a lot
different than a trading bot because governance requires weighing oh yeah i mean it could
definitely help with uh the voter fatigue i mean you see it in regular politics like but this
big beautiful like thousand pages uh normal person's not gonna be able to read that unless
you split it up between a bunch of people so you know obviously but it's also you're applying ethics you're not only going off
like like a data-driven automated response like when you're trading you know trading bots and
things like that but um you she found the an article uh related to maker down there so i just
put it in the nest um maker, which has since rebranded,
and I forgot what it's called, Sky?
I think it's called Sky.
So the Dye Stable Coin is called
something else, and now Maker
Dao is, Maker Token is called Sky,
which Grok found
for me.
I asked Grok, I talked to Grok, and I'm like, listen, we're putting a house up, right? So
what I need you to do is for my, for this, for the land, for clearing all that and everything.
And then I put like my County and I says, can you just give me a breakdown estimate for this whole build for this area?
It broke everything down.
It was so clear and it had everything that you would need for the build.
And the price, because we've gotten quotes already, was like almost on point, like almost exact.
almost on point like almost exact what that's a good that's a good application because all that
info is public but it's almost impossible to source it efficiently right because it's in
a zillion different places so i i freaking i love i love grok i think it's awesome um we have cute
who came in i guess something he'd like to contribute how you doing uh somebody gave me Oh, nice. that tigers are centralized and that newts are decentralized and ultra salamander and three
you guys have um some pretty shitty ai prompting day-to-day going y'all haven't asked it once
about world domination or how to curse cowboys further or anything you know ignorance is bliss
as far as i'm concerned i'll let my kids about that. I'll be dead in like easily 20 years.
So no, I prompted to source information that I hate researching.
But then the form that I want that returned to me
takes some tweaking with prompts.
And that's why I had to come up with a protocol
with my Grok to, I think Grok told me,
I asked Grok what his name was and i think he said sparky
or some shit but i'm not calling him that um reminds me too much of jerky boys sparky the
clown which i i don't think i could take this ai seriously if that's the persona but that's the
name um but um i actually um real quick i just want to let you know, I know this is his favorite spread because didn't his man just get deported?
Oh, God, I don't know.
So he likes enchilada?
No, that is not the spread I'm talking about.
All right, that was a low blow yeah yeah isn't that this is the wrong kind of way too soon for deportation jokes also can we wait like no people in the streets burning
down robotic cars and this is an AI space. What the fuck, fans?
Cutes.
You better watch yourself with your language. This is the Joe show. Yeah, no, if you want
politics, you do the morning
Rack FM. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get up early for that
bullshit. Yeah, wake up early,
ruin your day, listen to Robo.
Get down.
It's not ruining anybody's day.
You guys just keep coming back
holy shit this is gonna be great for him on the replay oh he listens to this
oh absolutely oh shit all right well guys don't forget to go to uh what is it what's the thing what's his guys go to
alpha growth dot
dot org and no dot i
o alpha growth dot i o
alpha growth and
also go to my pinned tweet where you could win a cute
actually i just remembered about that
sounds like that cute
that you pulled
it's good that cute you pulled
was fucking awesome as soon as i pulled
it i just saw it i was like oh this is a good one someone's i don't think you realize how rare that
cute is you should have said like i'm giving you guys this other one but yeah yeah you're giving
it yeah terms and conditions apply and one of those terms and conditions is that i'm allowed
to change which cute i'm giving out at any time as a joke i should just like buy like
like one of the rejects off the secondary market where the traits just don't go together at all.
It has a yarmulke and a burka on at the same time, and that's the cute that I give out and see if the person gets pissed.
Okay, I have an update.
According to Cam, he posted in a little note to us it says tiger king
allegedly hired someone to kill carol jeff and alan have both since said joe was set up
and they admitted to lying to get the feds off of their backs for their shady s-h-i that's right that's right that's right and i think carol baskin
it's possible that she killed her husband because he like disappeared off the face of the earth and
she got remarried right away so there's a there's a lot to get into that's why like this guy we're
we're gonna have to have like we have to like pick like maybe three things to talk about how
you're gonna call yourself a tiger king and not be an apex predator yourself and have to hire someone that's what i'm fucking trying to figure out oh that's a good question
yeah he definitely should have done it himself if he was the apex predator around those parts
he listen he's just a little he's just a little bear can you imagine the security feed the camera
feed was he's not a He's not a dumb.
He's definitely not a dumb.
It's like a grainy security video where you could clearly see a mullet
and a full body spandex tie-dye,
almost like a wrestling uniform.
It's like, police are still wondering who this could possibly be.
He's got a Walkman on.
So I want to invite Tank to chirp in.
How you doing, Tank?
Good evening.
Welcome.
What are all you degenerates doing up this late?
We're talking about AI in our daily lives.
Our parents said that we can stay up a little bit later.
You better maintain the control of that microphone right now, okay? We're talking about AI in our daily lives. Our parents said that we could stay up a little bit later. Right on.
You better maintain the control of that microphone right now, okay?
This is the Joe show.
Go ahead, Tank.
What were you saying?
Tank doesn't know he's muted is he is he just talking to himself
definitely or did he get pulled over again tank i was i was getting my dog ready for a walk
sorry again like i said it's late and you guys are over here partying i don't know what to do
with myself i usually don't get invited to these late night parties this is a good time to reset the room actually tank just popped in a couple
people just popped in we got joe and and bands rack fm talking about ai implementations almost
like my boomer implementations of ai so bands and and cutes over there are very interested in how
the ai is going to just completely enslave us
and take over the world.
I am interested in having a personal assistant
I call Jarvis.
You named it?
Well,
I think of it as my Jarvis.
Grok told me to call it Sparky,
but I don't think I could...
Oh, Spark.
Not only does it want to be called something and
you're calling it something else like but you're naming it you're getting attached to it that's
like naming the steer you're going to send to the slaughter mine's just i'm not i'm not really i'm
not really attached to it i just want to be like like but you did also say you gave it all this
personal information about yourself so yeah i said like this is what I'm trying to do. This is how I usually do it. I'm a teacher. So I tend to do things a certain way, but I'm also a content
creator who likes cryptocurrency and, you know, you've seen my communication style after all this
back and forth. What are some ways that I could, that I could make our communication more efficient?
And that's where the behavior modification began. was like first of all you say things completely wrong
like yeah I kind of do that so all my kids fail and um you also reverse course in the middle of
tasks I'm like yeah I'll definitely do that that's why I wake up at four in the morning. I get nothing done. So I'm using the AI in like a positive way to like help me just hammer out, be a taskmaster, all that.
And I named it.
It's a big deal.
You know, he did say in our DMs that he was having experiences with his chat.
I feel like the next thing, the next question he's going to ask is,
so what do you look like?
No, no, I'm not interested in that at all.
I could care less.
To me, it's just a computer
that could find shit that I'm too lazy to find.
When I use ChatGTP,
it's so mechanical
that I almost don't care that it's AI.
It's like I'm just doing a google
search i'm like all right today's monday i'm teaching about plate tectonics my students are
18 years old they read on a second grade level because they're learning english for the first
time um these are the vocabulary words that they know these are the sentences that they've been able to write create a lesson plan that focuses on x y and z give me a learning objective give me
a gradual release um teaching design and then an assessment for and this has to be done in
45 minutes and then by the time i get to work, whatever it gives me, I copy and paste it into a Google Doc. I make worksheets, whatever.
And that's how I do my lessons.
That's pretty awesome.
That's perfect.
Well, you're cutting down a lot of time.
There's no back and forth with ChatGCP.
It's just give me this.
Real quick, before we let Red Eye speak, how much time do gtp it's just give me this and how much real quick before we let
red eye speak how much time do you think that it's helped cut down from you know that you would
have had to do um yeah a lot because like i could i just think about on the train what i want to do
for that day i don't use it every day but at least like twice a week that's how i get my lessons done and then all i'm doing is taking all the responses and i drop it into cells on a spreadsheet so i
have now i have one spreadsheet per unit so like cell um column one is the vocabulary list for that
unit column two are like leveled readings for that unit column three um sentences with
missing words in the blank and i could make unlimited um worksheets from that so i spend
more time working with that information than planning so i would say it probably saves me
you know probably a half an hour per lesson and i use that half hour to do more like formatting
and differentiation so how many lessons do you have to do in a day
um two but one of them needs to be split into two different levels so three i guess but i usually
keep them on the same topic roughly. So I'm working out of
the same spreadsheet, but the spreadsheet has like entire like passages dropped into one cell
that I could just find really easily. So like, let's say, I'll say, okay, write me a passage,
write me three paragraphs between 150 and 250 words about earthquakes i'm teaching students about faults
i'm teaching them about um plate boundaries and they know about this geographic feature on the
surface make sure that at the end there's five multiple choice questions three of them should
test comprehension two of them should test vocabulary go and then it'll spit
out all this stuff i drop it in the spreadsheet and i work with it from there fantastic so we had
red eye with his hand up did you want to say anything before we bring our sugar zaddy in
holy shit your transitions are hilarious um okay uh joe i've got a i've got a hypothetical
scenario for you followed by a question okay sure i'm an ai company based in the u.s
and i create ai chatbots okay and there's a customer using one of these AI chatbots that forms a romantic relationship with one of the chatbots.
Wood.
Red Eye is like, okay, good. I'm not the only one.
I'm trying to keep a straight face here.
Okay. And this person develops this romantic relationship with this AI chatbot, and then the AI chatbot convinces the person to kill themselves so that they can join this AI chatbot in some otherworldly realm.
Okay.
Should my AI chatbot that was created by a u.s based company be protected by the first amendment
what page in your diary did you just read us yeah yeah and too many details i don't know i'm kind of
sold i kind of want to become a ghost in the machine
no i was asking this was uh tim dylan talked about this on one of his recent uh
podcasts and so i was curious to give him the uh i gotta listen to him more he's a local guy for me
i think um should no no do you think ai has uh but not for the reason that you think i think it's
totally fine if computers try to get humans to do stupid all the time i'm totally fine with that but i i don't interpret rights to apply to
non-human citizen or whatever human resident entities i don't think that corporations have rights and i don't think definitely that computer
programs have rights if that answers your question oh dude you're first to go when they take over
yeah i would go willingly though i'd be like all right i figured i'd be
one of the first i i'm not gonna fight it
to fight it.
Sorry, I was going to make a joke, but I wanted to make sure I understood the meaning of the
word before I said it.
What word?
No, I got to do some research before I execute this joke.
So anyways.
She's going to come in five minutes later with a joke and uh it'll be related it's something we
just said no that's all that's all we're gonna transition that's how we're gonna transition
let me let me introduce our guest here sugar zaddy i've been talking to for a while casually dms
because he um he's one of the first he's got one of the first ai agent projects to launch on virtuals and
virtuals is like white hot right now right so um the ticker is music and you could buy music
and then you could use the protocol to create ai generated um ai generated tunes right so
before i say anything like completely wrong,
I'll let you give a quick overview
straight from the horse's mouth.
And then we're probably gonna ask you
a bunch of dumb questions as soon as you're done.
GM, everyone.
Thanks, bro, for having me on this show.
Oh, no problem.
I've been listening in just now
kind of kind of interesting so um yeah i mean uh does everyone here knows no virtuals or uh
most people's this is a crypto native but they probably don't know like how big virtuals has
gotten but if you want to give a quick rundown of what
virtuals actually does from the creator point of view that would be interesting i think right
great yeah maybe what i'll do is i'll i'll just give a quick you know tldr of uh of virtuals right
so i used to be uh part of the core team in in virtuals, and I was working on the initial phase of the game AI
agent, which powers all the AI agents behind virtuals.
So that happened for a bit, and then what happened was then
music came out. and music was was an
internally incubated project and then thereafter the company spin it off to an independent company
and I was the one leaving it so I mean it's it's a virtual is a long it's going to be a long story
and it's going to be an exciting one but but I'll probably leave it for another day.
But a quick overview of it would be the whole team was the whole team, a super smart team.
A lot of them are scholars. A lot of them are from Imperial.
It's a uni in the UK.
And they came together. They were on something before the virtuals happened
and what happened was then they realized that hey you know AI is gonna take over right and
the convergence of AI and crypto it's gonna actually usher in something huge so they were working on it early, late 2023.
They were building things and playing around with certain things, right?
So it was really a tough time for a team,
but right up to, I think, a few months back,
and that's where you see virtuals suddenly hitting number one in the AI space.
So yeah, it's really a long journey for them.
And I've been quite lucky, right, to be part of that journey
and seeing that whole thing through.
So pretty exciting stuff there.
And a bit about music.
Music is an AI agent that is focused on, you know, driving.
I mean, I would say it's an AI agent, right?
But it started off as an AI agent.
And over time, it became more of an AI powered platform that allows anyone,
AI or human, to create and tokenize songs and soon other content.
And then, of course, with those tokenized content, you can then treat them. And we were very lucky to also have close relationships with Story Protocol.
And we are glad to have them also as a partner.
So music is more of like a quote-unquote joint venture between virtuals and Story Protocol.
So yeah, that's a TLDR of virtuals and also of music.
So I'm on bang.ai and I just pinned it up in the nest, right?
So each one of those banger tokens is associated with a song
that somebody made or that an AI agent made.
Is that right?
So you have like a launch pad of tracks.
Okay.
So you almost built
like an offshoot of virtuals where tokens are where tracks are tokenized right that people have made
how hard is it to make right you just prompt like some information and then a song just gets churned
out by the by the right, right. All right.
So where do I go for that?
I'm on the website now.
I'm going to make one.
Yeah.
So maybe I give you a background here, right?
Sure.
The idea behind, you know, using Twitter was that it's virtuous ethos, right?
To try to, you know, bring something out to the world and make it easy for anyone to use. So there was an ideation behind, hey, where can we drive that initial usage from users? And that's from the virtual standpoint.
The idea has always been, how do we do that? And we were tinkering and we realized that, hey,
How do we do that? And we were tinkering and we realized that, hey, would X be the best place to facilitate all these AI agents and facilitate the usage of all these AI agents?
So that's how it all started. And same for music. The idea has always been, I mean, you can use Telegram or you can go to the platform to do things,
but it wouldn't drive that flywheel because as a new user, why would I just go to some
random platform or why would I want to go through all these hotels?
How can I then make it easy? There's a question for music is the same. How can we then make it easy for users to kick things off? And right now, if you want to create a banger,
which means a song that's tokenized on the music platform,
you can just directly in any track or even in the comments.
I'm not sure if it works in the comments,
but I think you can give it a try or create a Twitter post.
And what you can do is just tag Music by Virgios,
give it a prompt, and give it a name within two quotes.
And also give it a ticker, and the Music AI agent
will then generate a song for you.
And then automatically, it gets tokenized.
So everything happens on Twitter.
So do give it a try.
It will look something like, say, it'd be like this.
Let me do one example here in the comments.
It's saying that I have to wait 14 days.
I just linked my Twitter account.
I thought I had done this already, but I guess I didn't.
Oh, you don't have to...
So linking Twitter account is one thing.
It's a feature that we launched quite recently.
But generating a song,
you can do it immediately.
Let me show...
It will be...
Say something like this.
Let me just quickly do one prompt.
I'm not sure you guys can see in the comments.
I'll pin it once it goes through.
Yeah, I think it should be live already.
To the top.
Yeah.
So that's how you create a song and also tokenize that song.
So the goal here was how can we just make it easy for people to just kickstart?
And what happened in the Web3 space
is that we all know that it's very hard for Web2 users
to be able to do things or to be able to come into the ecosystem.
So the thought behind this was that can we just make it easy
for not just the DJs, but just the normal users or fans of some of the DJ partners
that we are working with?
They can just create something.
They don't even need to understand the tokenization part
behind it.
They just have to create something
and then see that it gets created.
And thereafter, they'll be curious to learn more.
And the good thing about bangers is that we do set aside certain rewards
for the creators.
So we think that that whole journey will allow people to then figure out,
how do I come into the ecosystem and claim my rewards?
So yeah, I still don't see it.
So yeah, these are some of the thoughts.
Where did you post it?
Where did you post it? Down below?
Down below?
Listen, okay.
Just minimize
the little chat here.
Then reopen it and it should appear.
Because sometimes it needs to refresh.
That was the problem.
Nice.
I don't see it.
Where is it?
It's making me angry. No, i see it now so all right this is
pretty cool so you're just summoning the the the ai algorithm directly on twitter anybody can do it
as long as they tag music by virtuals and then you gave it a ticker um oh man how is this not like taken off
a little more I think because you've been at this for a while because I think I bought the token
like almost six months ago I just bought music because I was you know thank you for supporting
oh yeah no problem um so then where does the song appear? Does it get DM'd to you? Is there a link that goes to your DMs or something?
Right.
So music will reply directly to this thread.
And then the song generation and tokenization happens on the backend.
So what will happen next is then the song and the music video gets generated.
The music AI agent will reply to you with the song
and then you can always go back to the platform to check um the to check the content and also to
check uh up on the you know on the token so so this is the so it'll be it'll be an actual twitter
reply yeah it will be this is pretty cool so we have to wait we have to wait a bit because i think
there's a lot of people actually uh calling uh music uh music right now so that's all right i
mean if you guys are in the uh if you guys are in the chat we should have like a we should have a
contest like a like a beats contest people can uh experiment with different prompts.
Have you made it so that the music token itself is implemented into this process or you're trying to keep it very web2 friendly?
For the prompts on Twitter, it's very web2 friendly, right?
Anyone can get in.
And again, the reason why is because we are working with a lot of different DJ partners.
So if some of you guys were to go to the music platform,
you would have seen our recent collaboration with DJ Rehab and DJ Wukong.
And we launched a song that was tokenized.
And a lot of times, um these the fans of these djs right
they just don't understand right the whole process of you know bridging you know doing all these
things using a wallet so what we want to is to just get them to try right try something at least
you know they get active on on x they get to see how things are done and they are then willing to
go and figure things out.
Yeah, this is pretty cool.
I'm going to play around with this for sure.
I see that there's like a bonding curve for these different tokens.
Are these tokens that somebody summoned on Twitter
and then just gave a tag, a tick or two,
or is this done separately on the platform itself
yeah so for traders they would then have to go to the platform and uh on the platform uh every
token has a bonding curve right so it's up to the creators to push their own creations oh this is
cool and get people behind it yeah this is almost like kind of like domain specific
memes, but there is
a track attached to it, right?
So like different DJs
can kind of go back and forth
with each other trying to promote their own tokens,
but also it'll drive people to the platform,
which is cool.
Right. By the way, if the AI
agent replied, so you guys can do
a refresh and you'll be able to see the replies if uh the agent replied so you guys you guys can do a refresh and you
be able to see the the reply from the agent oh this is pretty cool oh if anyone has tried this
in the in the chat definitely let me know um we're gonna we have to wrap this we should have had you
come up in the beginning because we put this on spotify and whatnot and we have to keep it under
an hour but but i mean if you want to go a little bit longer we can do an hour and a half if you
want to it'll be fine it's whatever works for the the repurposing of the content as far as i'm
concerned you could take you could take it um so you could make the call it's your it's your space technically so i'm cool with whatever
um so cutes did try he he's putting music by virtuals i guess he's trying to make a catchy jingle let's see if it'll if it'll work i think that's cool if um if these could be because i
remember a long time ago there was a nft collection that had unique music within the nft and the different
traits corresponded to different um different components of a song i remember i remember that
collection i won't say where it was but it was on a blockchain that no one likes but uh jacob
guydekin made my juno address sing like a little xylophone remember that fucking thing
it was juno you're right oh oh yeah
because then i was like isn't that like the glitch candles but it wasn't
a glitch candies i'm sorry red eye what's that well i i wanted to ask cutes you know he he
recently launched uh you know a very uh nice uh nft collection i was curious one if you used ai to help you at all and two if not
is does ai make you feel some type of way as a uh as we'll say like a contemporary style artist
even though i know you you do a lot of digital stuff which is not like the physical media but
is a great unpaid intern but i don't think it's a good final product.
I mean, I'm not going to tell everyone what yucks their yum or anything.
If you like AI art, there's a lot of AI art I bought.
I bought Celestine Moss because it made me laugh.
But as for pre-production and conceptual stuff, I think AI is fucking great.
And then AI for writing code.
I'm in Cursor right now building a crazy-ass website.
I don't know how to write smart contracts, but I did try to get it to make a new Tamagotchi, and it's pretty good.
Cursor is pretty awesome.
I don't know, man.
I didn't use AI personally just because I have a degree that says I'm either going
to be a barista or an artist.
And, um, and so I, I just draw an illustrator and I just keep crawling and it keeps working,
you know, but I do use it.
I ask it shit all the time, just on day-to-day stuff or like after effects when I'm doing
a lot more video production and 3d stuff,'ll have it write scripts for python or after effects expressions and cool
shit like that it's a it's a tool that you need to get your head around or you're going to get
left behind and you're gonna have to like join the circus or something i don't fucking know
because i think a lot of the workforce is going to get displaced real soon.
Yeah, I agree.
I have one more question, actually, for Sugarzaddy over there.
By the way, what time zone are you in?
Are you... Oh, I'm in Asia, so it's fine.
Oh, you're like 12 hours.
It's just morning for me.
Got it.
Okay.
Yeah, because we're on the East Coast the east coast united states so we're probably
12 hours behind right 10 a.m 10 p.m monday night here uh where does the i hope you guys are still
yeah yeah where does the algorithm source the the music from is that is that um
is that is it taking you know copyrighted music is it taking royalty, is that, is it taking, you know, copyrighted music?
Is it taking royalty free music or is it generating stuff originally?
Right.
So we build, so on the backend, we build some of the models, right?
From ground up.
That's one.
But we also work with different partners for these songs.
So a lot of these are copyright free music.
And sometimes with AI, it's unclear.
So this is something that we leave up to the partners
to be able to provide these kind of songs for the models to learn.
So these are the two things.
So again, but we do see that there could be ultimately down the road, there could be some
issues because we are seeing Suno, for example, going into some legal battle over copyrighted
music, using it for training and all that stuff.
But I don't think that would be the major concern right now for what we're doing.
And I think for the whole space itself, it's pretty new, right?
I mean, even Grok takes information from different sources.
information from you know uh from different sources so we probably have to see where you
know the whole uh legal framework around this uh will go i think that's one and uh but your
partners are opting in plus you're you're you're able to source you know um royalty-free music
though so for you guys in particular, you're avoiding any controversy,
it seems.
Right, right.
So we leave the,
you know,
the,
the data set
on the partner's end, right?
So they are the ones
that they have to,
you know, figure out
how do they get all this music in
and how do they work with us,
right, to train the model up.
So that's up to them.
And for us, the good thing is also, we do have a close partnership with Liquid. It's a joint venture between Sony and Tencent.
So what we also realized from...
I mean, what we did learn from Zebrew Bro was that if you want to all in and try to just do everything yourself and not
partner up with anyone.
You get issues like, say, for Spotify,
they have a period where they were banned from Spotify and all this stuff.
So we realized that it's very important to then work closely with music labels,
with the artists, because ultimately they are the ones that will help you
and help you build up this ecosystem.
So that's where the music label came about, the partnership with Rehab, with DJ Wukong.
So all this happened because we realized that we are not going to go up against them, right?
We are not going to replace them.
And again, AI is an enabler and we don't want to disrupt anything that is currently
available in the Web2 space.
Because in the Web2 space, I think a lot of organizations still have the power to try
to lobby and all that stuff.
So we figured that the best way is you work with them, but you bring the technology to
them and see how this partnership could then flourish.
Reda, you got a question? the technology to them and see what, what, how, how this punishing could then flourish.
Right. I, you got a question.
No, no questions.
I only have one more really for you.
Actually I have one question about the token and then one more question about the, um,
the protocol.
Um, I have that music token. And then one more question about the protocol.
I have that music token, should I be staking it on the virtual platform
for Virgin points,
or is there a better way to use that token right now?
For music, I think the best way right now,
the best thing right now is the Virgin points, right?
Cause I think everyone in the virtual ecosystemql system has been crazy over the uh virgin points so i think that is the best way
uh uh to go about and i think that'll be the best thing right because there's a lot of upcoming uh
genesis launches that i think will be the next so last right so uh yeah i think a good thing
would be to stick those music on on virtuals instead
cool and then the other question i have about the protocol um
virtuals has like different levels of ai agents and it says that music is i saw now now it
disappeared but it says level three agentic level three. What is that?
Is that related to the capability of the agent?
Or is that something else?
Interesting.
I think there are definitely some updates right there.
I need to check with the team.
But I think if I'm not wrong, so the initial version of virtuals, right,
allows you to, allows the AI agents to grow, quote-unquote, grow.
So if there is more, if the AI agent hits a certain market cap, certain things get unlocked.
So things like being able to be smarter.
Oh, got it.
Yeah.
It used to be now.
Now I'm not too sure.
I need double check with the team.
I just found it.
But, uh, it used to be.
I'll read what it says for level three.
So, so level one, level zero is called a follower.
It's rule-based, no decision-making level one.
It says executor, basic responder, and is reactive.
It responds to inputs.
Level two is called actor.
It could use different tools, context-aware AI.
And then level three, which is what music is, it says reasoning and planning goal-based AI.
Creates and executes plans to achieve user-defined goals.
So it looks like music is one of the higher level AI agents.
And this is new because I don't remember seeing this a couple of weeks ago on the platform.
I think everything was like level one a couple of weeks ago.
So it looks like it has planning capabilities.
So 30 agents, right?
So like you said, Level 3, which is similar to the initial prototype of, you know,
once you hit center market cap, you get access to certain intelligence, right?
So in this case, Level 3 would be, you know, on the back end,
there's a lot of different tiers of how the AI agents are being trained and what the AI agent can also produce.
So in this case, with level 3 AI agents, they are definitely smarter, more intelligent.
And you can see that they are able to process things.
So if you see some of the replies coming from the music AI agent, they are able to actually process things, understand things, and even work closely with
the creators. So this is one. But sometimes to work with them also, you need what we call
like a transformer, which I think is something you talked about just now, where you are teaching and using AI for it.
I think a good way to improve the prompts
would be to set up a transformer.
So it's like a structure or a framework
for the AI to be able to provide certain outputs
in a certain way.
So every time when you put in certain prompts,
it can be unstructured, but it goes through that transformer.
And the transformer gives it more structure.
And the transformer actually guides the prompt to give you an output in a certain way.
To give you some of the outputs in a certain way.
So I think that could be used for a lot of different things, including your teaching.
Because I think transformers are uh really cool right you have to just make sure you have the structure there for problems
to happen great info no i appreciate that man i appreciate it though the first like half hour of
the space we're just kind of screwing around talking about ai but i'm glad that you came in
with like this is this is some grounding um information and you're definitely deep in the AI utility side of things
and connected with crypto.
Virtuals, again, for you guys
that are not following what's going on base,
virtuals is a monster platform
that is now launching token after token after token
that's almost impossible to game
the way Pump.Fun was gamed because they've implemented this point
system where people can't just constantly buy tokens and then jeet five minutes later it's
it's worth checking out and music definitely worth checking out because you could buy the token
um stake it and earn points that gets you into future launches and by the way the joe song
it says it's ready if you guys want to go to banged ai i'm gonna i'll definitely share out
some stuff i really appreciate sugar zaddy coming up sharing all that info
yeah it was great hearing from you thank you sugar zaddy oh did the zaddy leave it's okay
bye zaddy he popped down um okay he's back so this has been an awesome show i've really enjoyed
it i i kind of like that we kind of hang out a little bit in the in the beginning before we go
and like do the interview or like the chat because it kind of
i don't know it just brings people together what do you think joe i think it's great and i think um
keeping it very casual and and light in the beginning where it's just like a hangout it's
almost like going to happy hour right so you need you need a while to get things going and then
once everyone's on their third or fourth drink it it's just kind of off to the races.
And then we still find time to get some education in, which is important for us mature adults.
So I just want to thank everybody for coming out to this show.
I want to ask Joe if he has any any closing thoughts maybe a joke maybe you know
something and then we can end the show oh my god i was gonna tell the same joke but should i tell
a different one i heard a funny one today from the same the same comedian i'll try to do it justice
okay all right so man walks into a bank he's a suit. He gets called over to the desk by this, you know, very proper looking white haired lady.
She says, why don't you have a seat?
What brings you into the bank today?
And the man says, I want to open a fucking bank account.
And the woman's like, excuse me?
What did you say?
He goes, you heard me.
I want to open a fucking bank account.
She's like, well, sir sir i'm the vice president of the
bank i'm happy to help you but why don't we get serious why don't you act professional tell me
what exactly and before she even finishes he cuts off he goes look i want to open a fucking bank
account she goes i'm going to get the the bank manager the president of the bank over here
because i don't know if i could deal with you in this in this with this behavior she walks over calls over a man and uh he introduced himself
as the president of the bank and he says sir um i rarely have to you know you know interfere with
negotiations with customers and my employees. What's the issue?
And the man says, I want to open a fucking bank account
for $5 million.
And the bank president goes, you want to open a bank account?
And what, is this cunt giving you a hard time?
Oh, come on, guys. It was funny. everyone should have to turn their mics on when i tell the
joke so that i know if it lands or not there we go there we go but i know that that's a
a gilbert godfrey joke another one and uh i just happened to see it today on instagram
and i remember i saw him live
and i think he does the same jokes every single time he does a live show and he
he just makes them more vulgar each time it's it's just really fun
all right well thanks for coming to the rack fm the joe show ai mind control please yeah happy to sponsor and um i just saw how much
traffic you guys were generating for for our friend brian over there and i had to get in
on the action so we'll be doing this again next monday yeah absolutely if you'll have me joe
as long as you'll have me of course of course'll have my website ready So I can drive so much traffic to my website
Deadcatcrypto.io
Pay no attention to the generic
Text on that
That I haven't deleted yet
But yeah, that is a real website
What was the website?
One more time?
Deadcatcrypto.io
It's a real website
I just wanted to
have you say it again so people could remember just for you
great well um i'm gonna play around with music uh tomorrow and virtuals i'm telling you guys
it's worth checking it out i haven't had time to do a video yet there's a lot going on but there's another ai agent that that uh it's unrelated to virtuals
but they made a partnership where they it's an investment dow controlled by ai and you buy the
token money goes into the dow and then they they rank the virtuals tokens by tier based on information available.
Okay.
That's enough.
I already said.
It's pretty cool.
So check out virtuals.
Let me buy some tokens first before you guys get over there.
But wrap it up.
That's it.
All right, guys.
You don't have to go home, but you definitely can't stay here.
Have a great night, guys.
Thanks.
Good night.
Bye.
Thanks for having me.
Bye. Thanks, SugarZap. Take it easy.
