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Ep.22 Exclusive interview with Mela Bee, Producers spotlight
Recorded: Dec. 3, 2025 Duration: 1:27:40Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion, artists and crypto enthusiasts explored the launch of Harmony Hub, a new cross-chain music NFT platform, while addressing the implications of AI in music creation and the importance of artist rights in an evolving digital landscape.
Full Transcription
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i hope I've been a real good girl, I swear. Close my eyes, pretend to sleep. I'll be waiting anxiously. Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say. so
Thank you. I'm asleep, sure it feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say.
Oh, sure it feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say.
Is it too early to wake the family?
I see the sun's begun to rise.
Stockings packed up to the brim.
Today nobody sleeps and I think it's Friday Christmas Day.
I think it's finally Christmas Day
Oh, I just love that song, Mella.
Oh, I just love it.
It just warms my heart.
It makes me want to go home
for a white Christmas. Thank you so much for coming. You guys, this is such an amazing space
already. I'm just going to shoot out some more invites. Mella, if you want to come up,
would love to have you talk about what you got cooking, girl, because, man, I'm loving what I'm hearing.
I just followed you on YouTube, and I've been just listening to all the beautiful music
that you make.
So thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Super excited to be here.
Mella, Mella, what's going on, big homie?
Oh, my God.
Hi. What's up? Oh, my God. Hi.
What's up?
Oh, you know, living the dream.
Another day in paradise, you know?
Yes, Lord.
Yes, Lord.
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited to dive in.
It's definitely an honor and a pleasure.
Definitely an honor and a pleasure.
Yeah, so I. You know I'm a Melody fan, you know
Dance and Cry is one of my favorite songs from Melody
You know, I don't think it'll ever get old to me
It's pretty dope
I love that song, you know what I mean
Yeah, I mean, it's one of my favorites too
And I'm so glad that it's been well received. It seems like everybody's receiving the early rollout of some singles from my debut album really well. I'm excited to, you know, keep it going.
Oh, Mela, I love the enthusiasm.
The sky is the limit, right?
Let's make our own story in the stars.
I really, I, Crypto Beats, do you maybe, Mela, if you don't mind,
could we maybe play that song that you were just mentioning
as we get the space kind of filled up?
Would that be okay?
Yeah, for sure.
Why, of course.
Why, of course. Why, of course.
Awesome.
Let's go.
I thought you would never ask.
So I guess I'll just do a brief intro really quick on what Harmony Hub is.
So we are a cross-chain music NFT platform.
We have EDU.
We've got our digital audio workstation.
We are just rolling out SUI Stars.
That is the opening to our DAO and the gates.
We're opening the doors to Melody Mintz.
That's our launchpad for the music artists. So we have lots of stuff kind of upcoming we're cooking on
here on Sui and building. So every single week, I'm trying to highlight artists here on the
blockchain and in Web3. And so Mela, while crypto is getting us ready, maybe if you have a minute, I'm kind of curious, how is your experience?
How is it going for you here on the blockchain?
And do you have music NFTs right now?
Are you planning on minting any of your music?
I'm kind of curious on how your journey has been so far.
Honestly, it's been great. It's been, you know, a learning process.
The, the, just like the ecosystem of music NFTs has gone through so many changes since
I got involved.
I've been involved in crypto since I guess 2021.
I've been involved in crypto since, I guess, 2021.
So it's been some time now.
And, you know, I dabbled with NFTs at the beginning,
just like JPEG NFTs,
just because I wanted to figure out how this all works.
And, you know, how I didn't want to put my music
on the blockchain right away
because obviously I'm very protective of my music.
So because everything was so new, I was like, you know what, I'm going to, I really like
like doodling and drawing and stuff.
Let's, let's make something cool.
And then I released my Goober alien collection, which was just this cute little alien thing
that I drew.
And I treated it as basically like you were kind of like entering like a reward system
with within my my ecosystem so if you owned my goober alien nfts then you'd get early access
to music you'd get um you know like in my discord you get into like the backstage pass channel
so anytime you know tickets came up or anything like
that there's like discounts on that discounts on merch so I found it very useful for just kind of
like developing a community and and building that community up so that way people could feel like
they were directly supporting me which was cool because know, like these, a lot of these platforms that,
you know, artists use for, I guess, gaining support from their community, like the traditional
web two platforms, they take such a big cut. It's like an unnecessary middleman that's taking so
much of what people are trying to direct directly give
to these artists and in return get these rewards and it's wonderful to have those platforms but i
was like huh maybe blockchain is the way to just remove that middleman and make it so that way like
people know that they're just directly supporting the artist. So that's kind of where I started with it.
I do have a couple of music NFTs that I've dropped.
So Dancing Cry being one of them, the song that we're about to play here is a music NFT
on the platform sound.xyz.
So when sound was really pumping and everything was really going well with sound, that was
where I was like, you know what? Let's test the waters. Let's see what happens with a music NFT. And, um,
I think it was, I just think it was a very early point and there were some troubles with the
platform that I didn't foresee. I don't think they, they were thinking about. And, um, I ended up having
to close my mint because what happened was my, my wallet that was connected to the mint got
compromised. And I was like, shit, I don't know what I'm supposed to do because, um, how am I
supposed to withdraw from sound dot X, Y, Z? How am I supposed to take the money from sound and
transfer it to the wallet? Um, without losing it, because it was one of those compromizations
where like they put a bot on the wallet that just anything that went into the wallet was going to
get drained. So I was like, crap, like, I don't know what to do. I didn't really think about this.
So I reached out and I was like, how do I, how do I navigate this? And honestly, I didn't really think about this. So I reached out and I was like, how do I, how do I navigate
this? And honestly, I didn't really get much help. It was just like, that sucks. Like we don't really
know how to help you because you can't change the wallet address on the contract. So I was like,
oh my God, like, did I just lock up these funds? Like, are these just going to sit on sound dot XYZ forever
and nobody's ever going to be able to touch them? And people just, I guess now people own this NFT
and they still get to have the reward system, but I'm not getting anything from it because I can't
withdraw. So I'm like, oh my God, what do I do? I ended up thinking of a workaround because so luckily on the platform, I was able to add a wallet.
I couldn't change the main wallet on the account, but I was able to add a wallet and I was able to adjust the percentages in which the funds could be distributed.
So like, you know, if you have yourself and you have your producer on there, you could go and say, okay, my producer's wallet is
not compromised. So I can change the percentage and say, you know, like I want 99.99999% to go to
the producer's wallet rather than my wallet. So I ended up doing that. And that was beautiful. I
couldn't, I couldn't completely take away that initial contract wallet. They're like a percentage
still had to go to them.
And I think it worked out to be like, it was so minuscule, like minuscule that it didn't
really matter.
I was like, okay, I guess it's just pennies, whatever.
I'm losing that.
But of course that put like a sour taste in my mouth.
I was like, oh my God, how am I supposed to prevent this from happening again?
I was like, oh my God, how am I supposed to prevent this from happening again?
Like, you know, as AI gets more involved in technology, like more risks are going to come
about.
I don't know how to protect myself and protect my community from those risks.
So I ended up taking a step back and saying, okay, going forward, I'm going to just have
to figure out how I can do this independently.
Or, you know, maybe there will be something that pops up in the future that will feel like it's like prepared to deal with those security risks.
Because to me, if I can protect my, you know, protect myself, but also I don't want to put my community at risk of anything.
That's like my biggest concern, just because that happened to me.
Like, honestly, I don't think many people were thinking about that at the time. But because I actually went
through it, I was like, okay, this needs to be top priority going forward. So yeah, I kind of
just like taken things into my own hands, which I think is the beauty of the blockchain because we, it kind of reminded me like, okay, I have to
exercise a level of self-custody intelligence. Like I need to be smart about self-custody
if I'm going to be engaging in the NFT market with my music. So I think that was a lesson that I, you know,
I just have carried forward and I'm excited to keep moving with it.
I of course have not lost my hope for the technology or the ways that I can
use it to help monetize my music, because I think it's absolutely incredible.
You just gotta,
you gotta know like how to go about it and how to be smart about it and
protect your protect yourself and protect your people.
So hopefully that answers your question.
Yeah, that totally answers my question.
Well, and I love the fact that you kind of broke it down because it is like a struggle.
And I feel you, you know, that's kind of one thing that I've kind of really made sure to do with building Harmony Hub.
Pretty much everything that you just said,
I've created tools that kind of avoid those things.
So like with building on Sui,
you know, with the NFTs,
they're actually objects, right?
So you can give them specific roles or keys, let's say,
and you can monetize your data or your assets completely decentralized.
So you can store all of your music
completely decentralized using Walrus and Seal. It's all data encrypted. So you can just give
keys like to your community, like for your listening parties. You can like, you know,
they only those people that have the keys to your music can can, you know, enjoy what you're building.
So you can really monetize, um,
what you're trying to do. So I really love that you brought that up because, um, it's hard right
here on the blockchain and feeling like your community is not safe. Um, is, is a huge, huge
no, no for me. Right. Um, like I'm very protective of my community. You can ask anybody in here.
Like I'm always like, Hey, are you guys good? Like I'm always checking in, um, you know, never trying to steer them in the wrong direction.
Um, which is why, you know, another reason why we're building on Sui as well, you know, we've
got, you know, seal, um, which is, you know, the privacy. Um, so we've got that as well,
completely decentralized private data, um, which is amazing. So hopefully looking forward that as well, completely decentralized private data, which is amazing.
So hopefully looking forward to, you know, maybe building with you Mela here on the blockchain.
I would really love to see maybe possibly some of your music on Melody Mintz.
It would be really amazing to work with you as an artist.
So just throwing that out there yeah yeah I'm excited to kind of jump back into exploring like
the opportunities that I can um you know work with other people that are smarter than me you know
like people that I don't I don't have time in the day to be like the techie person as well as being
the artist and like the entrepreneur and all the things that I do. So
yeah, that's been my struggle is like, I, as much as I want to continue to be a part of the music
NFT community and put out more music NFTs, because I do have people that would love me to do so.
I just haven't had like, the opportunity and the time to really like navigate that in a way that feels like safe and comfortable for me yet.
So I'm excited.
I want to dive in.
Yeah, let's go.
Let's go.
So Crypto Beats, are you ready to play that song that we were waiting for?
You know it.
Let's go.
This is Dancing Cry from Melody. I guess I had this coming, the rain was powerful, I'm not ready, How could you be steady?
I made the bed, but I can't sleep without you messing it up with me.
Now I'm a mess.
Ain't that funny?
And I don't want to know. I just got to know. that funny
are you Satisfied Does she know your past? Does she know your dreams?
Does she give it all just to make you happy?
Oh, are you happy?
I know that I'm not perfect for you
I really tried how to let you slip away.
I can't bear another day.
Seems you've got new plans as you should.
Somewhere our names are etched in one.
Ain't that funny?
And I don't wanna know
I just gotta know
Does she make you laugh?
Does she make you cry?
Does she scratch your mouth?
Does she make you satisfied?
Are you satisfied?
Does she know your past? Does she know your dreams?
Would she give it all just to make you happy?
Oh, are you happy?
And I don't wanna know
I just gotta know.
Does she make you laugh?
Does she make you cry?
Does she scratch your back?
Does she make you satisfied?
Are you satisfied?
Does she know your past?
Does she know your dreams? Would she give it all just to make you happy? is I'll be here, I'll be so happy, I'll be here to be
Let's go, let's go, vocals, vocals
Melody, you are hard are hard man that shit is hard man you dope as fuck to me man
you have a beautiful voice man keep up the music
keep the music up thank you appreciate that
so beautiful I see Joviak you're excited
did you want to comment girl thank you so much for coming M see Joviak. You're excited. Did you want to comment, girl? Thank you so
much for coming. Mela, Joviak is one of my community ambassadors. So I know you're excited.
She's been anticipating meeting you this week. So did you have some questions or just anything
you wanted to say to Mela?
Hi, RJ. Hi, Mela. No, I don't really have what to ask i'm just really excited to hear her
her audio it's it's so nice like the harmony in the whole song it's like very touchy i i i'm gonna
like is there some somewhere we could listen to it after the space yeah so that song is um it's out on all platforms so youtube spotify
apple music wherever you listen to music you'll you'll find it um but the best way to find my
stuff is the link in my bio so it'll take you to all of my different platforms all all my stuff is
there um but i can post stuff up at the top too if that's okay.
Yes, yes, please do that.
And yes, once again, nice to meet you.
Good to have you in the harmony space.
Nice to meet you too.
Yes, that was absolutely beautiful.
I really am curious.
What inspired you to write that song, Mella?
Yeah, so this one's a funny one because a lot of my songs come from a place of like,
um, I guess like something I'm experiencing in that moment. But this one, I picked up my guitar, I started like fiddling around with some chords. And I found this really cool progression and like little melody in there.
And I was like, hmm, this has to be like a heartbreak song. It has to be it just had that
feeling. I don't know, the vibe was telling me like you are heartbroken right now and you're watching somebody like move on without
you and you're wondering are they happy like do they like do all the things that we did do they
you know do they laugh do they cry together like all those questions that you might ask in the back
of your mind when you see somebody that you once cared about moving on And the funniest part about it to me is that I was not going through that at all
in that moment. But that was the story that kind of popped into my head in that moment. And I was
like, hey, I got to run with this. Because it just kind of happened really naturally. But then I found
myself like trying to draw from previous relationships and previous experiences and that felt really weird
because I no longer felt that way about those people and I you know happily in a
relationship with someone new so I was like okay that's not gonna work because
that feels weird I don't feel that way about those people anymore so what I did
was what I think actresses and actors do. I placed myself into this like character
and I pretended that myself and my current partner
were like broken up and I was watching him move on.
And I literally like started to cry
because I felt that heartbreak
because I was, I guess I placed myself in that mental place.
And yeah, I just like really felt it because I was
like oh my god if I ever watched him move on with somebody I would be broken so and we're happily
engaged now so I feel very uh this song is definitely like sad to me because I'm like oh my
god I wrote this as if we never like yeah so it's it's a funny one because I honestly feel like I felt what an actress might feel when they kind of place themselves into that place for playing a character.
and I hate to say this, but I role play a lot with what I do and with building.
It's kind of something that helps me with my, it's my creative side as a builder. So I like
nerd out on lore and role play and just getting into character. And so like when I heard you,
when I heard that song, I really like I felt the emotion in the song.
And I can definitely relate to pretty much everything that the song is about.
So thank you for that.
You know, and it's really challenging as an artist, right, to capture those moments in the music, the true human emotion. And I think you did that absolutely
wonderfully. So let's go. Thank you. Yeah, it is hard because sometimes you go to write a song,
at least I go to write a song, and I end up writing about things that I either,
you know, experienced a long time ago, or, you know, I'm just starting to process something,
or even sometimes I write from like a completely different perspective. And I put myself into
shoes that I've never actually been in. Like I have a song called Take Me Down,
that I have never experienced any of the things that I write about in that song,
because I'm writing from the perspective of like a criminal that robs banks and,
from the perspective of like a criminal that robs banks and you know is on the run like running from
the cops and stuff so it's just so much fun to me to do that because I don't know it's thrilling
like you really like place yourself there and you feel those what you what you I guess would think
those emotions would be um and it just kind of, it's just fun. And I think that songwriting
does not always need to come from a place of like sorrow or like in the moment processing emotions.
It doesn't always have to be that deep. Sometimes it can be you just kind of playing. I think that's
like, that's something that I'm really passionate about. And I try and encourage
my friends and my community and everybody in my life to try and do whether it's with music or
anything is to play more. Because at some point, you know, that's how we learned when we were kids,
the way that we learned and developed and grew as human beings in the early stages of our lives was through play.
So I think playing is so important and we move away from that as adults and we need to make time
for that play. Absolutely. Absolutely, Mella. And you really captured that because I mean,
it's finding something that you truly love doing, right. And finding the joy in it. Um, it really is something, it really is something to, um, it's the true version of art, right. And music. Um, it's amazing. Um, it's, it, it's, it's really crazy to me because when you're creating here right when you're creative and
like let's say for me for instance like I can't I am not a very good like artist right like I can't
draw that kind of artist but my brain like my mind is so creative and so like being able to
capture what my mind is thinking and putting that into like that passion into what I'm building has been like the most amazing part of my journey of building Harmony Hub because it's literally, you know, my story. It's like my heart on a sleeve
here, this whole project. Just everything from people telling me I couldn't do it. I didn't know
how to do it. People wouldn't help me. So I was just like all of the stuff that I've been through
from the time that I've been building for over a year now. Well, we've been building now. Most of my team is
in here. We've got Jobia, CryptoBeats, Blessed, Big Stanks, Goose Park, Rumble. He's not here,
but he's our manager. The whole team's here. We've been building silently in the background
and listening. I'm just tired of people telling me I can't do something.
And taking the talent that I have, I might not be able to draw you something,
but I can take my creative mind, and I can put it to good use, and I can actually help you build something, right? So that's just kind of my place here in this space, I guess. I'm a builder,
entrepreneur, I'm a lover, I'm a fighter. I protect my community.
I protect the people that I care about. And I also stick up for the people here, for the little people here in the space,
because it's not easy being here every day and building and growing and grinding. So I appreciate you so much for speaking up, you know, and I did see your post about like the AI music. And I'm really
kind of curious on, you know, what, how, what is your, your output on, you know, AI music? And,
you know, I know you, you're very passionate about that. So how do you feel about artists
creating music with AI? And, and I guess just kind of tell me.
Yeah, yeah.
A little bit about that.
So I'll get into it a little bit. Like there's so much that that's why I'm hosting a space on it,
to be honest, because there's just so much to, to touch on. And I guess,
I want to make a distinction between my opinion on the use of AI for play and the use of AI in
the industry because those are two very, very different things. So, you know, when it comes
to people utilizing AI for the purpose of just creative outlet and like, hey, you know what? I have this cool concept. I
don't know anything about music, but I've got this poem that I wrote and I'd love to hear somebody
sing it, but maybe they don't have like any friends in the music world. Maybe they're shy
about their words. Maybe, you know, there's some self-consciousness going on there and they just want to hop on and try something out.
Abso-fucking-lutely.
Sorry, pardon my French.
I don't know if we're allowed to swear here, but I got a bit of a...
Of course, yes.
It's okay.
Yeah.
We all cuss a little, don't we?
Yeah, yeah.
I just, I'm a passionate person and it comes out that way sometimes.
But yeah, abso-fucking-lutely.
Go, like, do your thing.
Like, it doesn't bother me like I
think as technology evolves there's going to be tools that pop up that people can utilize however
they please but this is where I start to the industry side of things is where I start to get like, not even upset. Like it's more just, I'm a forward thinker.
So I think about, okay,
what is this gonna look like five years from now?
What is this gonna look like 10 years from now?
And if we don't approach the incoming,
just like flood of AI music in the music industry,
because it's being flooded right now. It's,
I don't know what the number is, but there's an absurd amount of music being released every single
day on all streaming platforms. And there's no distinction. So yes, there's like fine print.
People will like in the description on the song, they'll put like AI supported. Okay, cool. But
most people are not, they're not looking into the music that they're listening to. They're simply just passively consuming it, right? So I guess what I'll touch
on here is like the psychological change that can happen when it comes to music. You know,
there's a study that's showing 97% of people can't tell the difference between AI music and, you know, music that is not used or that is not used AI in whatever way.
So with that, to me, that poses a risk, especially when it's being flooded so much.
Like there's just going to be music is already a very difficult lane to take.
There's a whole lot of music being released every single day.
And now that number just grew astronomically.
And it's gonna either completely flood streaming platforms
to the point that streaming platforms,
and they currently can't keep up
because they're trying to.
They're trying to like mitigate it
from overtaking the other artists, the independent artists.
And they just can't keep up.
It's just not really possible.
We don't have the infrastructure.
The technological infrastructure is not there for that.
So in my opinion, like this is a conversation we have to have.
Does it mean that people shouldn't use AI?
No, that's not what I'm saying.
Because you can use whatever tools you want.
At the end of the day, your creativity is your creativity. Whatever you choose to use is great. Do that.
But there needs to be a way to make distinctions and to also regulate, okay, who's allowed to get
involved in Grammy nominations, for example. There's an AI artist that climbed the billboard
charts, topped the billboard charts. But when you think about it, you're like, is that fair? Because if they're getting radio play, but here I am pitching my music to radio, that's not even, I'm just like a little email in their inbox and I just get skipped over, right? Like I'm every single day pitching for opportunities. Can I get on this radio station?
Can I get on this podcast? Can I, um, sync license my song for this Netflix documentary? Like every
single day working so hard to gain opportunity to monetize my music because streaming just doesn't
do that for us. Um, I shouldn't have to, like, I just don't think it's fair for me to compete with such a high
influx of AI generated music because it's already happening.
Netflix is currently outsourcing.
They're trying to move away from hiring actual composers to score their films because it's
cheaper to just use AI.
So that's taking jobs away from composers.
Then there's radio stations that are playing a certain percentage of AI music and allowing for
that music to climb the charts. And that's taking opportunities away from artists that are pushing
their music to radio. It's just, I just feel like there needs, we, we kind of have to get a grasp on this
now because if it moves really, it keeps moving faster and faster.
I'm talking like by the day it's moving faster and faster because AI is growing so quickly.
We've never seen AI grow at the speed.
We've never seen any form of technology grow and impact our culture at the speed that AI is. It's never,
ever happened. So a lot of people like to compare it. They'll say, okay, but what about this? What
about social media? You know, social media did this. No, it didn't because it took two years
for Instagram to hit a hundred million users. Okay. It took two months for chat gpt to hit 100 million users so and it's just getting
faster so if we the music industry is already just like riddled with all these people that
are trying to cut corners so that way artists don't get paid it's just been a fact. We've been fighting as artists to get control back,
to be compensated fairly for such a long time.
But now I'm like, okay, so instead of compensating us fairly,
these labels are like, well, screw it.
Like we don't even need to sign artists because we can use AI to just like drive up our profit on artists
that we already own because they own their likeness. They've signed contracts that mean
like this is where I'm like, okay, the contract law has to catch up. Our regulatory systems on
contract law have to catch up to this because currently artists are like, wait a second, if my label
owns my likeness, doesn't that mean, because this isn't written, but if they own the likeness
of an artist, does that mean that they can pump up like 2,000 songs from that artist
using AI and then just make a shit ton of money off of them
without their say? Like, are we taking away rights from those artists by
placing the opportunity in these labels laps to just like extract? Like, it's just,
it's interesting. So yeah, I touched on a lot of things there. No, I, I, I know. And it's very frustrating, you know, and I think a part of it is, you know,
us as, um, you know, producers, musicians, and, you know, platforms, um, for music artists need
to create a new standard, uh, for the upcoming music that's coming out, um, for the upcoming music that's coming out, for the released music that's coming out.
Like for me, for Harmony Hub, Mela, you know,
so if you go to Mint,
let's say you have a Suno account, right?
And you go and you make it an AI song through Suno.
I can't legally upload that
unless you pay for the premium membership, right?
And you get the rights
to that song. So I mean, there are like weird ways that, you know, people can do it. But
it just really, really, really makes it challenging. It does make it challenging.
And it takes away the true art of the music, I believe. But there are also amazing tools,
like you said, that people can
utilize as well. Like I know a lot of people don't have access to, you know, studios and whatnot. And
so those tools are, you know, nice to have if you want to create something or music or just put,
you know, anything, art in general. But creating a new standard is definitely something that needs to be done.
Um, and, and I, it starts with us, you know, it starts with, it starts with pushing back
and it starts with people actually taking control back of their data. Right. And saying, you know
what, um, I'm not going to put my stuff on YouTube anymore. Um, if you want to see my content,
you're going to have to go here and, and, you know, and a lot of creators are going to have
to go that route in order for it to work. Um, but unfortunately, like as far as the influx goes,
you know, you really can't control that. So like, it's, it's just great. I don't know.
Yeah. It's really hard. it is hard as far as you know
navigating especially with the blockchains but I think that blockchain is future you know especially
with decentralization and in keeping those hands out of out of the you know the baskets
is definitely necessary you know I I'm not a music artist myself. I do write music. I'm, you know, working
on setting up my studio and stuff like that. But, you know, I haven't gone down those narrow roads
like a lot of you guys have. And it really sucks just kind of hearing what you have to go through
and the struggles that you do as an artist just in real, and, you know, here in Web3 as well. It can
be very frustrating, you know, and not everybody is like millionaires, right? Like, not all of us
can afford to go pay these huge, you know, marketing companies to go do all this stuff for
us. And, you know, even if you did, like, would you be satisfied? Like you said, Mella, like,
you give someone rights to your music, next thing you know, they're creating, you know,
content without your permission and
so it's just I don't know yeah it's a it's a whole just cluster mess of of just who can make
the most money and where they can get it right yeah and but like the the thing that scares me too
is like the concentration of profit is gonna it's gonna just like there's the music industry is this weird place where like the music industry executives the
people at the top obviously they have like the most right like they're making so much money that
they're even signing artists like real music music, like actual like independent musicians.
They'll sign a small artist knowing that they're not going to put marketing
budget into that artist because they can write it off as a loss.
If that artist puts out an album and the album doesn't make them any money.
So if we already have stuff like that happening,
I just, I can only imagine how it's going to get worse, right?
So like I said before, artists have been fighting this for so long.
They're trying to get out of bad deals, trying to sign better ones, trying to gain their rights back, their freedoms, their creative freedoms too.
Trying to get that back
um this poses a risk because it's like well they they might not really need us anymore
like if especially if 97 of people consuming music can't tell the difference between AI music and, you know, human made music,
then and it's only going to get better. I think about artists like Halsey, for example.
She's in a deal with whatever label she's with now. I can't remember which label it is. But
she, she's not allowed to write an album right now because her previous
album didn't give them the numbers that they wanted. So instead of her writing an album,
they could, if they wanted to, they could be like, you know what, we're going to use your likeness.
We're going to use your voice and we're going to make an AI album. And it's going to be an,
it's going to be a Halsey album.
So completely removing her from the creative process altogether
because they own her likeness.
That to me is like, that's scary.
I would not want to be in one of those deals right now
because the fine print was not written to account for this.
And things have moved so quickly that we need to we need to go back and like you know adjust
some of these contracts so that way artists are protected that's where my passion is completely
100 completely 100 percent agree with you which is another reason why i created harmony hub as well
because i sat back and listened to the community for over six months um the music community. And so I just started building.
I've literally just been building ever since.
Here we are a year later.
So anyways, I'm going to give an opportunity for some of our other speakers.
If you guys have any questions or comments for Mela, we do have Big Stanks up here.
We have Blessed and James.
I hope you all are doing well.
Stanks, did you want to comment and say hi to Mela? I hope you're doing well today.
It's music space, isn't it?
Yeah, GM, GM is how I'm going to help. I don't know if you guys can hear me.
I'm currently in the bar, I touch my phone. There is no power supply around me
So I have to come out and I figured out that oh how many of spaces going on?
I thought you guys should jam some of our music there
This is some music that we just play. It's a throwback music and it's inspirational. It's you know music is story
It's inspirational.
It's, you know, music is story.
It's inspirational.
I feel like in every music you listen to, there is a story in every one of it.
Like, I love music.
I just love music so much.
And I feel like being creative is something I can dwell in.
And music is life.
I love music because I listen to this song.
I remember, oh, I was doing this particular thing in this song. Oh, I listened to this song I remember oh I was doing this particular thing in this song oh I listen to this song oh yeah my mom
we're dancing to this song oh my god you see music reminds you of the past of the
good moments the bad moments the moments where you're doing this the moments when
you're doing that you know I just love. So thank you so much for putting up such an amazing space.
I'm Ella.
I'm big thanks.
And I am delighted to be part of Harmony Hub.
And I listen to how you love music.
And it's amazing how you all are, you know, cooking up amazing stuff to give the community one thing to listen to and get to end while listening you know it's amazing
i love the creativity i love the building i love the ideas and i'm always happy and delighted to
be part of you know such an amazing thing i'm getting to learn i guess if i have any question
i'll just raise up my hand and try to be in a conducive environment so you can hear me properly
and i ask some questions.
Thank you so much once again.
Hi, Joby Akka.
Awesome, Stanks.
I love your enthusiasm today and I love the vibes.
Your background music is vibing.
I love it.
I'm like, I was kind of like dancing in my kitchen, like, let's go, right?
I needed that little uplifting beat, buddy.
Let's freaking go.
Blessed, how are you on this fine day?
I hope you're doing well.
Gem, I'm on it.
Gem, Kibriak.
Gem, everyone.
I want to speak to our listener section.
And Sumela B, yeah, Gemela B.
I love your song.
I actually love your song.
Listening to it, just give me that vibe. I don't know how to explain it, but I really love that. I love what song like I actually love your song like listening to it like just
give me that vibe I don't know how to explain it but I really love that I love
what you said yeah so it's a good day by here and I'm actually enjoying my time
on this space let's go guys let's go blessed so blessed is part of the
harmony team as well and he is required to bring his Blessed laugh into every single one of our spaces because he just has the most contagious laugh.
And I just love him dearly. Thank you so much, Blessed. He's always bringing the heat.
We do have AJ and James. How are you guys doing today? I think James was first, then we'll bring it to AJ.
have aj and james how are you guys doing today i think james was first then we'll bring it to aj
are you with us james
all right we'll go to aj aj are you with us yes yes yes i'm a huge fan of melody. And I know I hear this AI music. It just doesn't have, it's like, you know, I, I kind of like crave the live stuff a little
bit, like the live in-person stuff.
Like I kind of like crave that.
And, um, I don't know what we're going to do here because you even have this in writing.
You have it everywhere.
You even see it on people's posts, like this AI posts.
Eventually we're starting to catch on to it.
At first it sounds great. No doubt you're captured. You're like, wow, this AI posts. Eventually we're starting to catch on to it. At first, it sounds great.
No doubt.
You're captured.
You're like, wow, this sounds good.
But after a while, like your soul,
like kind of rejects it a little bit.
I think that's what's going to happen with music.
I think that's going to happen with writing.
And eventually we're going to crave like that,
that person, you know,
and that I'm not going to say not perfection,
but like, you know, not that AI stuff.
I don't know, but I'm a huge fan of Melody.
I got her as being not only the number one singer songwriter on this app, but you know,
one of the best, you know, really even perhaps in this world.
And, um, and it's interesting.
So I'm just here and Melo, you're awesome.
And, uh, thank you for putting this together.
Thanks, AJ.
Love you, dude.
Of course. Yes. That minute I heard Mela sing her beautiful Christmas song, I was like, I need her. I need an interview. I like instantly was like, this girl
is amazing. I need to meet her and get to know her a little better. And I look forward to hearing
more of your music, Mela, by the way. And I'm just throwing this out there Mela um if you want to sing
your song live today that would be really amazing just throwing that out there if you can't
I totally understand um but it would be an amazing way to close the space out today
um you don't have to answer now but um it would be really really great I do see Danger Devin down
there man that dude is rocking I just love his spaces as well. Devin, I see you, buddy.
Thanks for coming in. It's important. We got Essen, Mira Dejan. Man, Mira Dejan, that guy never
skips a beat on the timeline. He is one of the most supportive people here in the spaces. Thank
you, Mira, for coming in today. Rumble, I'm not sure what you're doing, but I miss your voice
today. Rumble is our community manager. He is always ready to rumble.
So James, are you with us now? Yeah. Check one, two, check one, two,
mic chat. Can you hear me harmony? Everybody? Yeah, I got you. I got you. What's going down,
James? Well, listen, I, I am, I'm torn on the whole AI thing just because of my involvement over the years in music.
I can see everybody's side as to why there's worry about it.
But like, you know, AJ brought up an excellent point.
Hey, AJ, how you doing?
Mella, you know I love you.
Mella's the best artist on X right now in the female genres.
She is an incredible writer and has every reason to have the feelings
and the fears that she has about the future of music.
Now, there probably are ways that it can be done after listening
to the interview that Mella had.
Mella posted a thing about the interview with the guy from Suno and I listened to it and his interview changed some of my thoughts but
the problems that he said he was facing I could understand uh I just want to say one thing to
Mela Mela if you're not I don't know if you're aware but even though the Grammys they make it
a big deal in the industry Grammys are voted on by the musicians' peers and others in the industry only.
I know, of course, if you're looking at contracts,
if you have a Grammy, your next contract, the rollover,
you can demand, oh, well, I'm a Grammy winner now.
But I think when it comes to, like people took people's choice awards and stuff like that
even though some of that is rigged as it is it is more of a
Populous vote as to the talent that they hear
As a music producer and as a as a I guess you could say just a guitar player
I'm not a singer. I couldn't sing to save my life. That happened after everything dropped down below.
But as a producer, if I had to bring an artist into the studio,
and if I used Union Guys because it was from a label,
I would have to pay every one of those guys somewhere in a ridiculous amount
of $2.5 an hour plus for every hour I have
a band in that studio and those are guys that I got to call in that don't know the material yet
maybe I got to send them a tape maybe they got to go over it in their headphones and beat under
their drum pad or maybe guy you know maybe they had it down maybe they didn't but then there's the creative
the creative things the interaction between two musicians three musicians and then the ideas start
coming and that's that's the thing that i think with ai i could i could say okay look i have a
fantastic singer like mella mella's a guitar player and a singer.
She can do it both.
I could take Mela's tracks, put it into the proper AI.
Let's just say Suno since it's, you know, the beast we're talking about.
And I can go through several genres of that music like this.
From the soft sweetness that she would sing and
everything else.
Soul.
Now to me,
soul is when something's not to the clock.
All right.
It may,
it's tempo may go a little bit.
It's,
you can hear the feeling in the voice.
There's a soul.
Mella's got just incredible talent.
So there's others out there too.
I've heard on x that actually
use ai and have sang into the ai had the ai create their voice for the songs that they
wrote using it for the thing there's others that took the tracks as stems because i think the
premium membership gives you something like uh 12 stems or something like that of your music that you could take, put it in your own DAW, pop up to that microphone, do solos over it, do your vocals over it, do your guitar over it, do whatever you want.
So I can see both sides of the sword there, especially as a musician and as a producer. Cost effective, yes. But yeah,
we have to look at that. Well, is there a soul in that music? Is it moving you more than four
on the floor? And I think that's a big part of what AI probably hasn't really captured yet.
It can mimic, but can it duplicate? Now it can duplicate but
can it deliver the soul that's involved in music? Will it actually move you? If you're
worried about awards and money and profit, I don't even know how to approach that because the market is definitely inundated.
But Mela, an artist like Mela who had that niche of liveness and purity, I think they'll remain.
But we're going to have to find an avenue for them to actually shine in because,, I mean, like every generation has, has grown up on their style of music.
Right now,
the biggest style of music is like ultra music fest music,
all the DJ stuff, everything else.
And when they stumble upon something like Mela, they're like, Oh damn.
Well, that's really, that's really beautiful and pretty.
How about that?
And to be honest the
first track i heard of mella was nothing like what i heard her do in spaces in her christmas
tune and stuff like that i was like mella was that that she goes yeah that's not like holy
crap and that's a tune that's on youtube and it was very futuristic it was transient it was
trances i don't know what the right word would be for that but it was it was beautifully done
and done with the right people behind it live you know and or whatever they use um i'm ranting and
raving but that i i would love to talk to the guy that owns suno because i have an idea that would
help him get out of his lawsuits with the r-a-r-i-a-a or whatever the hell that uh the recording
arts industry is there is a way i believe that if someone pulled up a prompt in an ai that used a
famous artist's name or a particular song in its description, then the Suno AI should
automatically add a fee for using that artist's name or the artist's style of their performance.
I don't know if that makes sense, but I think that would be something that Suno should consider.
So artists like Melody and and everybody else if someone says
oh i just heard an artist like meli b oh i want to do a song like meli b oh really okay well now
if you say that then suno ai says hey that's a buck for meli b etc etc so i'll just drop it there
and i'm sorry I diatribe.
I love that. Thank you for like all your insight there. Like you bring up a lot of points that I'm,
I'm excited to dive into this really. Like, I think this is going to require more than just
one conversation. Everything is so convoluted. There's so many, like, what if this, what if that,
like, what's going to happen when this happens? Like there's so many of those questions. And
just to like be clear
I am I know the grant like the grammys the award shows all that stuff I don't even think that
they're like um pure in in like any sense like I think all that stuff has been just like not
pure for the longest time um so it's not even, that's not my biggest concern. I think if I had to like
tier my biggest concerns, my top tier concern would be the psychological impact that it has
on human consumption of music. Because if that statistic is true, I'm not saying it's 100% true our souls like literally in my opinion music
is the way into the soul and it's the way to express the soul that might sound different to
everybody in their head like whatever it is that a soul is to you in your mind that's what i'm
talking to i'm referring to i'm not like referring to it in like a religious sense. So like removing spirit,
removing soul from music and, and flooding the places that people consume music the most with
AI generated music is going to cause like this sense of distrust. It's going to cause people to,
I already have people, this is my biggest pet peeve. I already have people that have commented
on my YouTube music and said, Oh wow. AI ai is getting really good do you know what kind of slap in the face
that is like and look look wait wait back up right there that's not that you could say that's a slap
in the face because you're like well don't they understand what it went into doing that but at the
same time that could also be the biggest compliment yeah because that's how you could it sounded i could think of it as a compliment but
the reason it hurts is because if i did make that like i think it's because so much blood sweat
tears resources time money energy from the people i worked with like all of those things combined
that's literally like
putting your soul into music. Like you're putting so much energy into that music. So if, if there's
just this general distrust of the music, um, that's coming out, if people just start to just
assume that everything is AI, if something sounds really good and they're just like, oh, wow,
AI is getting really good. That's just, it's just painful. It's honestly, it's just painful.
I guess I could see it as a compliment because they're like, oh my God, wow, this is really
good. It must be AI. I guess I could see it as a compliment if I want to see it optimistically.
And part of me does. I'm like, cool. I guess they're not dissing me they're saying it's good but i i don't want to be recognized for sounding polished i want to be
recognized for the soul that i put into my music so if someone jumps to the conclusion that i'm a
bot it just it feels icky it doesn't feel right so i i'm you there, but I think that's something that the platforms that feature said music
should make sure that there's like a graphic or something that literally states AI or human.
You know what I mean?
Definitely on the platform.
So that way, I mean, let's face it.
A lot of people, even though we all scroll on our screens,
we usually just play music in the background while we're scrolling.
So half the time, they're not even looking at the fucking site
that they're scrolling on or streaming from.
And that's a problem as well.
But, I mean, the only other thing I can put in is to put in an audible thing
at the beginning or end of a song.
This is an AI track.
Boom.
You know what I mean? Absolutely. an audible thing at the beginning or end of a song this is an ai track boom and then and you know
what i mean absolutely something as simple as that would probably you know ease ease the concerns and
like you're saying because i said the same thing at the beginning of my diatribe we all connect
with music via our soul that's that's i mean if it you, it moves you. The point is that, you know, we've been so tricked by AI visually. And you know, that frequency is everything. I mean, science has proven they've they've they've they've dissected every frequency that triggers an emotion within us and everything.
there's no reason why that AI can't be generating that frequency that does it.
You know, I mean, the whole Monarch Ultra, whatever the fucking, you know, all that crap.
But I am 100 on board with you, Mella, as far as being the original soul-bearing artist, you know, of your concerns and stuff like that.
But I think that the solutions should be very simple if you're going
to label it a not lay if you're going to you if you're going to create an ai it should be labeled
ai if it's you know if you're if you're basing it off of a known artist sign artist talent or a
particular song you should be charged for that for using that style for using their and if you use their voice
if you say oh i want the what the fuck whoever the fuck star is at the moment to sing it
then they should say oh well if you want it to sound like mellow b that's going to cost you
three hundred dollars yeah and just for the track and you should need permission i think you should
you should need permission because some artists don't want
their voice. Like personally, I would be, yes, I would be flattered. It would be very flattering
if someone was like, Hey, I wrote the song. I want Melo B to sing it. If you want me to sing it,
come to me, ask me to sing it. I'll go into the studio. You want to pay for my studio time,
ask me to sing your song and we'll see if that happens. But I don't, I don't want my voice to
be on something that i never had a say
in because what if that something is is pushing a message that i completely disagree with you know
also well look at look at look at how that could be done you could the suno or whatever ai could
say okay look if you're going to use mella b's voice to sing this in the style of Melody, then this is the contract.
The contract is you pay an upfront fee of $300 and then any royalties received, 60% goes to the artist, 40% goes to you for writing the song.
You know what i mean everything can be can be smoothed over i believe okay because you know
i don't i don't think we're ever going to be able to fight that battle i mean not fight it but beat
the beast we'll be able to compromise with the beast that we turn to as long as the compromise is fared and agreed upon
but of course they you know your legal world and all the other shit but i think uh if our if
musicians unions gotten involved and stuff like that which every artist should be part of a
recording thing you know ascap etc bmi then those are the people that you have to fucking bug okay those are the
people you got to go after because they're the ones with the lawyers that could say hey our members
of music who you're basing your fucking you're letting your clients ai off of okay they're
getting fucking pissed all right and they're about to either boycott us this out of the
other thing a lawyer up to take us out of the rights of using their music they're all going
independent they're all going nft they're all going this way and that way we don't want that
because they make more money off of dues and whatever percentage and shit like that
it is a complicated minefield but it's not that it can't be negated as or
navigated unless you really think it through as to every aspect you have to go down at the point
of creation if they say mellow b 300 bucks added added to that tracks price directly you get let's say you get 295 and suno takes five bucks for you know
whatever processing power it took to create my list voice i don't know maybe i smoke a little
bit too much today matter of fact i probably gotta smoke a little bit more just to calm down because
you got me so wound up i love it thank you thank it. Thank you. Thank you for your insight. I'm going to throw it back to Harmony because we could talk about this forever. You're right. I know. And am I bad
for bringing it up, Mella? But I did see your post and I was like, I'm really curious on what
you think about it because I'm very passionate about it as well. And James, you have some solid
points. And I'm just going to throw this out there um i do have a functioning daw
okay for harmony hub that's in beta right now um and so the goal is to make and mint music right
on chain using the daw right so that's going to be like the collaborative space for the music
artists like what you were talking about like different artists collaborating together on one DAW. So that's like kind of the goal right now. But if you're interested,
I would love to chat with you if you have some free time. I loved everything that you were
talking about as far as musicians, AI, everything. And I think you're very knowledgeable. Anyways,
I just would really love to chat with you. And if you're interested in checking out the DAW, the mobile version is not quite ready.
So if on your PC, you can just go to DAW.MelodyMints.xyz.
It is a professional DAW. You don't have to connect your wallet or anything.
You can literally you can upload your files. You can actually save them as well. But like I said, it is in beta, but I am looking for producers to test this dot out
because I need to know what it's missing, what we need to add, if there's any functions we should
add. James, I am looking to update my mobile version, you know, as far as, you know, functionality.
So like, if you have any ideas as far as how the artist can, you know, mobily be able to do those things using a DAW or producing music via mobily.
Any insight I'm looking for, any input from the, you know, from anybody that has any music experience.
It sounds like you're very knowledgeable.
So, I'm sorry.
I'm ranting. just throwing that out there.
I appreciate the offer, but I'm going to just warn you,
I am an old school guy, okay?
Yeah, totally.
I actually just signed up for Suno
and I tried to pay for the premium account
to do some work and see what happens.
But of course, they didn't take the credit card on Black Friday.
And I was like, well, that's pretty ironic.
Such a deal and I won't take the card.
But yeah, so I can only tell you what, as a producer,
what I would like to see if it's not already there and the functions.
So, I mean, I would be very interested in taking a peek at it
and hearing more about how that would function.
Yes. Yeah, because, you know, I mean, that would be very interested in taking a peek at it and hearing more about how that would function. Yes.
Yeah, because, you know, I mean, that would be like a collaborative space.
So like Mela, like you're talking AI.
Okay, so let's say Mela monetizes all of her music now on chain, completely decentralized.
I'm just throwing that as an example.
Okay.
Mela takes all of her music off of all major streaming platforms, right?
She monetizes her music.
Then what she does is she reaches out to these places and she sells her sounds.
She sells her music.
And, you know, however, James, like, I was just trying to create like this picture in my brain of like how you were talking and how that would work and function as far as blockchain and having music artists actually taking control back of their music and monetizing their music for multiple gains,
you know, cause 90%, you guys should be making at least, you know, 80 to 90% of your revenue.
Okay. There's just no, unless you're collaborating with several different artists,
you know, there's, there's no reason for it.
There just honestly isn't.
As a platform, for me personally, there's no reason for it.
It's just crazy.
Let me give you some just immediate advice.
I would immediately reach out if you're building such a platform for that is to actually get those,
the ASCAP and BMI behind you right now in development and partner with them.
So it's part of the NFT that tracks it. You know what I mean?
If you could partner with someone like that,
that already has all their,
their artists out there in the world around the world,
because don't we also have like the European one?
I can't remember what it's called,
but you have the main,
you know,
the three ones that track the sales and the publishing and the TV.
And if it's used for this and used for that.
Okay.
Yeah.
They would be,
they would be your middlemen for for the collection of the uh of
whatever money is you know what i mean and it's all aboard and it's it's on the books and it's
this and it's that and it's verified uh mella got 20 million plays on this day here and this on a or
they took 15 seconds of her song and put it in this this background music on
some show you know what i mean because that's how stuff gets placed or at least reported when it
does right so if you don't have representation like that it's very difficult to collect your fees
now i know i understand that nfts you could put particular
contracts attached at different levels for the price of the nft but those would have to be like
what one-off prices to use it like let's say i'm a music supervisor okay um i have three programs
oh i found these i found these four or five tracks and now i gotta on nfts now do i buy them outright
that says i could use them in four productions uh for a limited scope of 15 seconds of this or
you understand what i'm talking about minutiae of contracts that's why you see 50 page contracts
you know what i mean you're like what the fuck what is all right yeah well and i think that's why you see 50 page contracts you know what i mean you're like what the fuck what is all
right yeah well and i think that's kind of like the joys of you know blockchain as well as you
can you know if you know how to build smart contracts and write them um effectively um it
does kind of help bridge that gap um but no what i was what i was gonna say is, I was just going to say, so I did partner up with Musica Labs and Volume LLC.
They are offering and did a cure, all of those things that you're talking about.
They're offering white label, copyright, and publishing services.
So we will offer those services.
They won't be mandatory, but for artists like Mela, if she's looking to
take her career further and needing those services, then she could at that point say, hey,
you know, Musica, I'm interested in your, you know, in your services, you know, how can I take my
career further and let's get this stuff going. And then from that point, there would be a fee,
you know, on top of that. So, you know, I'm not sure exactly how much they're charging, but I know that, you know, it's at least 30% for those things.
It's not cheap to accure those contracts, like you're saying, James.
So, you know, that's where the fees come in.
You know, it's easy to get your music out there, but you do have to pay as an artist to actually take those next steps.
I mean, so it does make it challenging challenging but it doesn't happen overnight either you know it doesn't happen overnight you
have to organically grow your community right as an artist and you have to put the work in
you know you have to be here like Milla how many spaces you hit in a week as an artist like how
often you on the timeline I mean it's a lot I mean it's it's less now that
I'm more busy in real life stuff but um at one point I was spending like 64 hours a week
on uh spaces so that was a lot yeah so it's a lot of work you know it's a lot of work so like I get
where you're coming from as far as the AI and and and, you know, like, that's why, like, I love the fact that the soul, the soul music, it's like soul food.
You know, you can't, AI is never going to be able to replace that.
You guys, I don't care what they say.
It's never, AI is never going to be able to replace a human being.
Um, if you use AI like a tool, like it's meant to be used, um, it can help you do a lot of
things, but if you're trying to use it for be used, it can help you do a lot of things. But if you're
trying to use it for things that are going to help you make money, chances are it's only going to
last you a short period of time and it's going to end. So, you know, it's not organic. It's fake.
And it's like you're living a lie, right? At some point, you're going to get called out like,
oh, you're AI. Because you're not going to be in spaces like Mella singing live.
You're not going to be doing all this stuff and performing and getting your music out there and doing, you know, live performances at weddings or whatever you're doing as an artist. You're not
going to do those things if you're making AI music. And that's just, that's just the story
behind it. Um, so I'll just leave it at that. Um, so Malad, did you want to close? We normally try
to keep the space at an hour. We obviously are over that. It's just been an amazing conversation.
So, um, did you want to close us out with your beautiful song today? Yeah, sure. Like, okay,
awesome. Let's do this. Okay. So I'm going to tune up as I speak to be effective with my usage of time.
Thank you so much for hosting this space.
I know there's like, we could have probably had this conversation for six hours because, I don't know.
I'm a passionate person.
I've been doing this for a very long time.
And I'm excited about how, honestly, I'm excited about how technology is evolving to make my life easier.
I'm honestly, I'm excited about how like technology is evolving to make my life easier.
Um, but I also want to be very careful and, uh, protect real music and protect real artists
as best as I can.
So I'm doing what I can.
I appreciate the opportunity to talk about that stuff.
Um, and if it's okay, I'll plug, I am hosting a space on this later today. So I would
love, yes. Any information you want to put up in the, in the nest, please feel free. Um, and then
guys, I am going to just go ahead and end the space after Mella's song. Okay. So if you have
any questions, uh, I guess now would be a good time before she, she sweeps us all off of our feet with her
beautiful voice
I only got one question
Melobeat we gotta
get a collab I need to hear you on
that hip hop beat or that R&B
beat you know doing your thing
putting a little bit of soul to it maybe I can
get a bar or two from you you know what I'm
saying you know cause I'm due for
Melobeat here alright yeah slide into the DMs in a bar or two for me. You know what I'm saying? You know, because I'm due for a melody here. Alright, yeah.
Slide into the DMs.
Don't use an AI version
of my voice, please.
Just hit me up.
Yeah, for sure. Let's talk
about it. But yeah, if there's any other questions
I'm happy to answer.
Sounds like we're good. Sounds like we're good.
Yeah, we're good.
Let's go.
All right.
So this song is called Feels Like Christmas.
And I'm really stoked to say that it's performing very well in its first week. I've hung the stockings, got the fire lit
Mom's got hot chocolate on the way. It's the best time of the year. We've got everybody
here. Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say.
Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say
I hope Kris Kringle got my letter
I've been a real good girl, I swear
Close my eyes, pretend to sleep I'll be waiting anxiously Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say Mmm, da da da
Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say
I think I heard footsteps on the rooftop
I left out all his favorite treats
Glass of milk and four cookies
Hope he thinks that I'm asleep
Sure feels like Christmas Eve I'd say
Sure feels like Christmas Eve, I'd say.
Think I heard footsteps on the rooftop.
I left out all his favorite treats.
Glass of milk for cookies. Hope he thinks that I'm asleep. Treats For cookies
Hope he thinks that I must sleep
Sure feels like Christmas Eve
I'd say
Sure feels like Christmas Eve
I'd say
Is it too early to wake the family?
I see the sun's begun to rise
Stockings packed up to the brim
Today nobody sleeps and
I think it's finally Christmas Day
I think it's finally Christmas I think it's finally Christmas
I think it's finally Christmas Day
I think it's finally Christmas Day wow wow that was so beautiful mella i'm like shedding a tear you have such a beautiful voice
i'm like admire you so much right now i've been trying to play my guitar so badly and you just inspired me so,
so much.
Thank you for sharing that.
We have some anxious hands up.
We'll go ahead with big stanks and bless them.
We'll close the space out guys.
Oh no,
we're closing the space.
Oh no.
Oh my God.
That was some mind-blowing performance like i would say it's mind-blowing performance
oh my god damn um that was a very very good one miller i really really really really really
oh jubiak did you did you hear that jubiak it's not like I'm shaming you, you know, Joviak, we are homies, but
did you? Oh my god!
I really loved
the performance, Mela.
I was going to sing,
actually, but
close enough, I wish there was
power supply for me to, you know,
be active. I've not been, you know,
too active with spaces these days because of
the whole
situation that is, you that is going on around.
But I believe it's just for the main time.
We're going to go through it.
We're going to roll through it.
We're going to overcome it.
I believe they'll work on the lights and we'll have lights once again.
So that was awesome, Mela.
I really loved, like, I didn't get to listen from the beginning, but the
closing part, the strings
oh my god, that was some good
instrument there.
Thank you so much for sharing that.
Looking forward to more spaces with you.
Thank you so much, Amoni, for putting up
such an amazing space for us to
come showcase our talent.
Thank you, Stinks.
It's great. Thank you.
Go ahead, Blessed. Or Mela, us to you know thank you go ahead bless it or mella did you want to come yeah i just wanted to say thank you i appreciate that i'm first saying anything can you hear this like if you hear this like it is me clapping for you can you hear that yeah i'm not saying to be honest
like uh you know your voice your voice i can't use my soul i don't know how to explain it you know
like you know someone having a bad day and listening to some kind of voice and we're just
like give you that healing you need and just don't know how to explain it like i really love that
voice like uh i'm actually
not talking about the sound now i'm just talking about your voice like your voice it would just
like give this healing and i i'll just love to hear you sing like i'll just love to hear you
sing on most previous like i love it no no no no i'm being honest here i'm being honest here you
know if i want to laugh i'm going to laugh. But yeah, I'm not laughing because
I love that boy.
See, Mella.
Mella swooned all the
boys. They're speechless.
Let's go. You guys,
I did put...
I put her song
up in the nest so you can listen
to it all day. Share it with your
friends. Stream it as much as you want
let's go antichrist i saw your hand up and then i'm sure milla has to get going she has a very
busy day you guys um so antichrist go ahead and then we'll go ahead and close it up
okay okay jim everybody um i came up because of that beautiful voice bro that voice was
i don't even know the adjective to qualify it but bro that was a
heavenly like as somebody that doesn't believe in the concept of everyone else but
living the concept of everyone else but that voice is heavily the guitar everything fantastic
fantastical yes that's that's what i came to say fantastic good work let me let me say this guy
let me say this guy before i leave please and Jobiak I'll be moving to Jobiak
Jobiak please if you can't sing like Mela
if you can't sing like Mela B
please don't sing at all please
so Mela in case you didn't know
we used to do a
sing it live space
and we tried but
our voices aren't nearly as
beautiful as yours.
So we always have to flip each other crap.
But thank you guys so much for coming today.
It has been an absolutely amazing space.
And thank you again, Mella, for coming.
CryptoBeats, Stanks, Blessed, James, AJ, Antichrist, Brokey, Rumble, Goose, Danger, Monjiro, Jonas, Olive, Skellis, Essen.
Thank you guys so much. It means the world to us for your support. Rumble, Goose, Danger, Monjiro, Jonas, Olive, Skellis, Essin.
Thank you guys so much.
It means the world to us for your support.
Again, if you aren't following Mella, do so.
Her music is up top.
Share that.
It is the holiday season.
I know I'm going to be listening to it on Christmas and pretty much up until Christmas and maybe even after.
So let's go.
Thank you guys so much.
Much love.
I appreciate every single one of you.
Thank you so much.
