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EPSTEIN: A SURVIVOR'S PERSPECTIVE • JULIETTE BRYANT
Recorded: Aug. 3, 2025 Duration: 3:27:25Space Recording
Short Summary
In a powerful discussion, survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking shared their experiences, highlighting the need for community support and awareness. The conversation also touched on partnerships aimed at raising funds for victims, the introduction of innovative tools like Grok, and the establishment of grants to support mental health initiatives for survivors.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Gracias. good weekend everybody um we are thank you for joining us please bottom right corner
repost the space we are going to be platforming one of jeffrey epstein's confirmed trafficking survivors today.
And she is very awesome.
I've been chatting in the DMs with her.
Very real, very cool.
And she does live on the other side of the world.
So I'm very grateful for her to stay up late to join us in this space.
She's in Africa. So with that being said, I think it's going to be very
interesting to hear the perspective of the people who were affected the most by Jeffrey Epstein's
network and his vile deeds. And that is, that is the survivors. That is the children who were
affected by, by what he did.
And, you know, I've heard people say that they're not children anymore. Well, these are innocents that were corrupted by or were harmed, I should say, tarnished by something very corrupt.
And they deserve their justice.
deserve their justice. And, you know, talking to people who deal with survivors and the trauma
that they experience, especially women, especially young women. She's here now. Juliette Bryant,
who's we're going to be speaking to today. I have a thread that I'm going to post out about her
during the space. Hopefully it's, it justifies her story. But we are going to hear her perspective as much as we can.
First off, let me get the Grok disclaimer out of the way.
It's just a legal thing.
Disclaimer out of the way.
It's just a legal thing.
Anyway, hear her perspective as much as we can.
Grok, go ahead and give the intro to the space.
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of the spaces as a reply. Ready for your next prompt. Thank you, Grock. I'm going to put you
on mute. And so just to be safe for this particular space, first office is the first time I've had a
survivor in my spaces like this. I'm not going to be accepting random requests to speak.
I've already sent invitations to other people that I actually haven't met or know very well.
I'm going to bring up, but I'm not going to be bringing random people up on stage just to control the conversation and make sure that Juliet feels comfortable.
Juliet, can you hear me okay?
How are you doing, hon?
Hi, Dee. I'm here. Can you hear me? Thank you again for
Yes, ma'am. Can you hear me? Yes, ma'am, I can.
Thank you again for helping to spread more information and let people know
what's actually been going on here, because as we all know, we've been very badly lied to.
And I just want to say hello to everyone. thank you for listening and thank you for caring of course of course and and i'm very great we are very grateful for your courage um i know that
you know speaking about the epstein story publicly puts a target on your back, especially for victims who are often smeared to discredit
their stories or what they went through.
And even journalists who have covered the story experience something similar.
But I can only imagine that it's not anywhere near to the degree that the women and the
children who have suffered at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein and his associates have gone through.
So thank you for your courage and speaking out and coming out here and sharing your perspective.
Stormy, do you have anything that you want to add before we get into this dialogue with Juliet?
Any reminders for our speakers or anything? That way we don't
trigger anybody. I, you know, I want to say, I think that the biggest thing is to listen to
Juliet with an open mind, accept what she has to say. Everybody's reality is their own reality.
And, and it's important that, that we hear with an open heart and an open mind and open ears.
Yeah, and just for anybody who might be a sexual abuse survivor down there, this space, we're going to be candid.
So, you know, there's going to be recounts of trafficking here.
And if you are a victim of that or if that triggers you, you know,
you might want to listen to discretion. I definitely wouldn't be listening to this around my kids.
So like parental advisory is a thing. All right. So I think that we should just, you know, be
responsible with what we hear and who we allow to hear what. That being said, Juliet, can you kind of just give us a description
of where you were at in life before you met Jeffrey Epstein,
maybe in the year before or so?
Heidi, yeah, of course.
I just turned 20.
I was studying psychology at the university in Cape Town,
and I started doing modeling on the side because, you know, I needed money to get to university and, you know, I had to earn an income.
And I'd already been scouted, in fact, years before this, when I was 14 years old.
I was approached by model, elite model management at a market in Cape Town called Green Market Square.
And they held a casting and my mother and her friend came with us
and, you know, with me.
And she just made – my mum and her friend made sure
that these guys knew they were not going to be taking me off overseas
because, you know, a lot of young people are taken overseas, you know.
My mum did protect me, of course.
But, you know, when I was 20 years old, you know,
I was scouted again by this woman called Naja Hill, basically.
Because I was doing modeling at the time.
I'd been scouted.
I won a modeling competition with store model management.
So it was a good way to earn money and to also study at the same time.
So what happened is I was out at a restaurant bar where they gave free drinks for models.
So it was obviously a place where people would have known there would be models around.
And a girl called Naja Hill approached me and said that she was here with her friend who was the king of America.
She said that his best friend was Bill Clinton.
I mean, sorry, he was here with Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey and Chris
Tucker. And she said that his best friend was Leslie Wexner, who owned Victoria's Secret.
So it seemed like very legitimate. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'd love to meet them,
you know, because I thought she said that, you know, they're sort of scouting models.
And she thinks that they would like to see my modelling book.
So what happened is we went to the restaurant where they were all having dinner.
It was about a 10-minute drive from the restaurant bar.
We were on Clouffe Street in Cape Town.
And then they were having dinner at a place called Beluga,
like a 10-minute drive away.
And we drove there and met them.
And they all stood up while they were having dinner
and shook my hand.
And it was just like,
it was very overwhelming for a young,
a young person who I'd never met any celebrities in my life. You know, it was just like, it felt like a dream. It was like crazier than a dream.
In fact,
Julia, I'm going to interject real quick.
I just want to for our audience so they can follow along because you have an
accent. So she she's telling she's recounting the story of she was she was an associate of Epstein's.
And she was recruited by Naya by saying that Epstein was
had ties with Lex Wexner and his modeling agencies,
as well as the trip that the Clinton Foundation
or associated with the Clinton Foundation,
where Chris Tucker, Kevin Spacey, a bunch of celebrities were all on this Africa trip.
So this was the same time that this was occurring. So Epstein and Clinton and some of these other celebrities were in Africa, in Cape Town, where where Juliet met them.
Go ahead, Juliet. You can pick up from there. I just want to make sure everybody's on the same page.
Thanks, Bea.
Yeah, I'm sorry for my accent.
You know I'm from South Africa.
Oh, you're good.
I love it.
So what happened is, you know, after I met them there,
we were there for about 10 minutes while they were having dinner.
I'll also speak more slowly because maybe that helps.
Sorry, I speak fast because maybe that helps. Sorry,
I speak fast because I'm, you know, I'm in trauma, to be honest. You're good. You're absolutely good.
So what happened is from there, Naja Hill called me and she said that Epstein would like to see my modeling book and could I come for a modeling casting at the Cape Grace Hotel the next day, where they were staying.
So I was, of course, very excited.
And then she said also that Clinton was doing a speech
at the Western Cape Peninsula Technicon,
which is like a lower-income university in South Africa.
So they invited me to go watch the speech.
So, of course, I thought I thought you know he's with the
ex-president of America and with Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker and of course I wanted to go
watch the speech anyway while they did the speech um you know Clinton walked to the front of the
hall it was a very basic hall it was nothing like you'd imagine where you wouldn't imagine
a president to be in a place like that an an ex-president. And we were all sitting on plastic chairs. It was very basic. You know what I mean?
And basically, Kevin Spacey was sitting in front of me and he had a handheld device and he was like filming everyone in the hall, like all the students and stuff.
And I thought that they were like here on a philanthropy trip and they were here to help in Africa because, you know, there
were a lot of starving people in Africa, a lot of people who struggle here. So that's what I was
meant to believe was that they were here on a philanthropy trip and at the same time they were
scouting models because, you know, they sort of, it sounded like they sort of ran the world and
decided, you know, and you know, back in the day, we were all very naive.
Let's not forget.
Like, it's 2025 now.
This was in 2002.
You know, we didn't have the Internet as...
There was a basic sort of Google search.
Well, it wasn't Google.
There was some other sort of search.
But, you know, we couldn't research things.
And these people in positions of power were very much
trusted back in the day so anyway um after he gave his speech we you know um left and then went back
to the hotel where they were staying and then i went and got my modeling portfolio from my car
and i went into the hotel i was led up to the room where they were staying
and it was like they were sharing a hotel suite.
When you say they were sharing a hotel suite,
do you mean Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, and also there were these three girls
sitting along a long table, like a panel,
like a long table, like a panel of sort of modeling.
You know, they said they worked for Karen Models,
and they looked through my modeling book.
You know, it was Sarah Kellan, Andrea Metrovich, and another girl.
Sarah Kellan was Jeffrey Epstein's main assistant.
I'm just letting people know.
But, yeah, exactly.
But she posed, because this time she posed and pretended
she was a modeling agent. So it all seemed like 100% legitimate, you know, with these girls looking
through my modeling book. And as they were looking through my book, Bill Clinton walked through the
room and he said, hi, everyone. And he walked on and then he went to the left and then he went to,
you know, another room. I didn't see the room where he was. I didn't see any of the bedrooms there.
I only saw the sort of meeting area and then the sort of sitting room hall area, like, you know, a small sitting room area where I sat opposite Epstein and showed him my modeling book.
Were there other modeling candidates there as well at the same time as you?
No, they weren't.
You know, and I thought, like, I should have, like, known back then,
but I thought that they maybe had, like, the time slots arranged very well.
Because sometimes they do that with modeling,
where, like, you have a time slot, you know?
So, but there were no other models,
but they did have, like, a chair for me to sit and wait
while they got ready.
And it really, like, you know,
I hadn't been to a lot of modeling castings by then,
but I'd been to quite a few, you know.
So I knew the sort of drill.
And it was very much like any other modeling casting I've ever been to, apart from the fact that Bill Clinton walked through during it, you know.
Yeah, no, I'm sure it would have been mind blowing.
Here you are 20 years old.
You're going to meet some random modeling agent,
supposed random modeling agent at a restaurant. She's like, hey, you know, we have, you know,
Jeffrey Epstein, who is friends with Lex Wexner, can get you a job, as well as Bill Clinton and
all of these celebrities that are here for this gig, if you want to come with me right now.
I totally can see you going to check that out and and you know there's an overlaying
our overarching theme of coercion here uh that we're going to get into we got into it a little
bit last night but um coercion is where you lure somebody into a situation where they're isolated
and that's where we're going to head to in the story next um Go ahead. Let's pick up from where you were. You said that you got to
the hotel. Clinton was there. The assistant was there. There was no other models there.
And then what happened after that? So you see, after these three women looked at my book,
they told me to go through and see Epstein. So I went and I sat opposite him. They were like two
servers and I sat opposite him. And he looked at my modeling book and he said, right, he thinks I'll be perfect
for Victoria's Secret. When can I come to America? And I obviously had a pretty flexible schedule and
you know, because you know, I ended up giving up my studying for modeling because of this in fact,
fact, which is terribly sad because I wanted to help children and be an art therapist.
which is terribly sad because I wanted to help children and be an art therapist.
Anyway, I'll get there one day.
But, you know, what happened is, yeah, basically I left there and then his office started phoning
me, a woman called Leslie Graff, because I told them that I don't have money.
I can't afford a ticket.
You know, I literally had no money then.
I probably had like, you know, like $20 in my bank account.
That's all the money I had to my name. So, you know, they said that they would buy me a ticket and arrange my visa and
that all the money that was deducted, they would deduct my income from my, you know, from,
they would make, I would pay back the ticket and everything with my income when I got there and I
was modeling. So, you know, it all made sense. And then my mom even spoke to Epstein because she wanted to make sure that I'd be safe.
And he also told my mom that apart from modeling, he thought I was a clever girl and he really
wanted to try and help me like get ahead in the world and he would help pay for me to study
anything anywhere in the world. So you see, he also like, he knew with my mum that she was
sceptical of the whole modelling thing overseas. So he made it out like he was more of a philanthropist,
but I, you know, he was going to get me into modelling, but he also was going to, you know,
he thought I had potential and he wanted to pay for me to study. And so my mum obviously, you know,
she couldn't stop me from going. She was obviously a bit worried about me going overseas on my own but you know um she couldn't kill my dream of being i wanted to really
to be a i wanted to try to be a top model which obviously i never became a top model and you know
thank goodness because but you know i have much respect for top models but you know at the end I was just conned that I'm sorry real quick in retrospect now that you
you have time to kind of look at it did the whole setup you know the the recruitment at the bar
the bringing into the hotel under the pretense of modeling and hem you know the promises that
were made by Epstein did it does, does it seem, did it seem,
does it seem practiced to you by now? Like they had that whole setup as a routine or was it clunky?
Was it, was the, because it sounds like it was convincing. They were able to convince you and you were able to convince your mom, even though, you know, you said that she was very skeptical.
She was very skeptical.
Does that whole routine of recruitment and enticing a model or a younger woman to leave overseas, does that seem like it had been practiced?
Definitely.
I mean, these people were smooth, smooth criminals.
You know, they were mastermind criminals.
So he also obviously paid girls to do things.
And I saw that Naja Hill later became a Fox News presenter.
I never saw her again after that trip in Africa.
You know, but.
This story has been corroborated through primary evidence, by the way, you guys.
If anybody's doubting, I'm going to post a thread on it.
With all of the receipts, you can look for yourselves.
Go ahead.
Yeah, you're right. That's a good thing to bring up um let me also say that i was represented by the boys company
they also represented virginia gaffer maria farmer annie farmer sarah ransom my name's on the flight
logs you know i i was taken to all the properties there i've got all the evidence i've got photographs
i have a photo of you on Little St. James
Island. I'm going to
do a post, a comprehensive
post about your story. It's not in-depth,
but it's going to be a thread during
this. Readers can follow along.
I'll have all of the receipts
with citations at the bottom of it.
Go ahead and pick up your left off.
I'm sorry for interrupting you. I'm just trying to make sure.
No, no, no. It's fine. i'm easy to jump back and forth through things you're
i figured out how awesome i figured out how awesome you are from the dms so all right so
let's pick up where we left off yes ma'am so so you were i forgot where we were okay okay so sorry
your mom was screwing us so basically the office the office started phoning me. Leslie Graft from his office, and they arranged me a visa, like, quick, quick.
Sent me a letter of invitation, you know.
And then within about two, three weeks, I was taken to America.
I met them on the 26th of September, 2002.
And on the 17th of October, I was taken.
And I've got all the evidence.
Also, I've got my passport still from the time.
You know, all my evidence was actually sent to New York
and analysed by lawyers.
And, you know, they checked it all.
I've got my diary from that year.
And, you know, I keep things.
And it was just lucky that I actually found the diary at the time
because I was clearing out my garage, you know,
and it fell on the floor and it has a blue butterfly on it,
which we'll get into that later.
Sorry. garage you know and it fell on the floor and it has a blue butterfly on it which we'll get into that later sorry um but basically they had me there very very quickly and then i mean i was very excited i'm getting to new york i thought wow like all my dreams are coming true and i was on
the 20-hour flight and um then i arrived there and then there was a man waiting with my name on a board
and he led me to a car,
like a nice big black car
and he drove me through New York.
He was like the driver
and I was feeling like, oh my God,
it made me feel,
because I was like a young girl who'd never,
I was like, oh my God,
I felt like a celebrity being picked up in a car like this and sorry this always makes me anxious talking about
this but anyway um well do you do you want me to kind of speak for a minute and give you okay
yep so so yes ma'am yes ma'am um so she was enticed to and and correct me if I'm wrong here, okay?
So I'm just going to kind of do an overlay.
She was enticed to the United States during this foundation event for Epstein and the Clintons and the celebrities.
And she was offered a modeling gig or a supposed modeling gig and a visa, if I'm correct,
where they had promised to get her a visa.
Yeah, they got me a visa.
Yep.
And so she was supposed to go to New York and that was where she was going to go,
you know, get her career and start working and all of this.
And then she ends up getting diverted to little St. James shortly afterwards.
And that's where things kind of get really dark now.
And I just want to remind everybody that we're talking about somebody who, and I'm sorry if I am not being, I'm a man.
So I'm sorry if I'm not being compassionate enough or if I am clunking through this.
You are being compassionate.
You're being very kind.
Okay.
And just for anybody listening,
you know, I'm learning here.
So anyways,
there is a pattern of this
with Epstein and Maxwell,
especially with Maxwell
and these other women
that would recruit for him,
including the named assistant.
Now, she was the assistant that was actually named in a 2007 child sex trafficking case where Jeffrey Epstein received the MPA, the
non-prosecuted agreement, that is so controversial because it named his four known co-conspirators
who were women. Some of them were actually victims
of themselves that had been groomed into positions of recruiting other victims.
And then they were given immunity by that deal.
And then, of course, the super controversial portion of that where the unnamed co-conspirators
were also granted immunity. When Juliet was experiencing this, she is describing their
were also granted immunity.
operation. They would travel to these different areas, Mar-a-Lago, Africa, France, New York,
Florida, and they would recruit women under the pret know, fame and money and jobs and luxury, and then traffic them,
right, and abuse them. And then often they would get these girls who are now traumatized to go out
and repeat the process. And so it's a really like horrid cycle that Epstein and his co-conspirators have put upon thousands of victims.
That's the DOJ's counting, not mine, over a thousand victims that we know of.
in vivid detail, is a firsthand experience of what it's like to be one of these women
from beginning to end, where a seemingly innocent individual approaches you about a modeling job or
whatever, brings them back to the hotel or to a private area where they can talk to Epstein,
and then they're coerced with promises of money fame or luxury into leaving wherever
they're at it could be Africa it could be Florida it could be New York it doesn't matter and then
getting them to an isolated location and so she's giving you a firsthand experience of that um do me
a favor repost the space bottom right corner if you have any questions I'm going to do questions
afterwards um if you have any questions for Juliette leave them in the bottom right corner if you have any questions i'm going to do questions afterwards um if you
have any questions for juliette leave them in the bottom right corner in the purple pill tag me and
i will take a look at them ezra do you have anything you want to add real quick
yeah i just wanted to say uh hi to juliette um me and julia have actually spoken a lot off of
x and stuff and she's been really brave and she's been very instrumental in exposing this Epstein operation.
And I'm glad that you guys are all hearing her again because her story is very similar to Virginia Giuffre in the sense where she was also approached and promised a career that would advance her.
promised a career that would advance her.
So she's very important.
So she's very important.
And if you want to later ask her about her relationship with Virginia Giuffre,
I think that's a very important topic as well.
And it's a pivotal piece to the puzzle.
Yeah, because it connects all the missing links that the audience should be aware of.
And also Juliet's story is, let me just tell the audience,
her story is very dark in the sense
There are some stuff that she has seen that people will debate about for decades because it's supernatural stuff
She talks about everything like she's an open book. That's why I like speaking to her
So if you guys want to get into that and let her speak her experience, it's gonna blow your mind
And i'll just give it back to you now
Thank you shadow. Thank you, Shadow.
Do any of the women on stage have anything to add?
Sally or Stormy?
I just want to remind the audience that joined us a little bit later to, you know, listen to this with an open mind and an open heart.
You know, I just did a post about this.
You have to meet people where they're at and accept their experience as what they experienced.
And try not to judge.
And we're here to listen.
Definitely listen with a compassionate heart.
Do you feel comfortable describing what happened in New York now?
Yeah.
Thank you, Dean.
Thank you everyone also for, you know, for speaking and for being here.
So, you know, what happened is the black car drove me to 301 East 66th Street,
which is like a modeling apartment that Epstein apparently owned.
And I went to the concierge and they gave me a key to my own apartment.
And I was like so excited.
I was like, oh, my God, my own apartment.
Because, you know, I'd always lived with my family.
I'd never, ever traveled overseas before, you know, or on my own.
But so I walked into the apartment and then I put my things down.
And suddenly the phone rang.
Within about five minutes, the phone rang.
And it was Sarah Kellan again.
And she said, pack your things, we're going to the Caribbean.
So I assumed it was for like a modeling job
or, you know, I didn't have a phone with me there.
It wasn't the times when you could take a phone
and have roaming.
You know, we had basic phones back in the day,
like Nokia phones.
You couldn't take photos of them.
Everyone remembers, you know, 2002.
But anyway, so, you know, I just, basically the car came back and got me and then drove me to
Teterborough airport. And then I got onto the airplane, you know, no bags were checked, no
passports were checked or anything. And Epstein, I patted the chair next to him and I went and sat there.
And Sarah Kellan and Andrea Metrovich were on the plane on the left-hand side.
And then as the plane took off, he started touching me in between my legs.
I was wearing jeans and I just got such a horrible fight.
I was just like, oh my God.
You know, I suddenly realized that I hadn't been taken there for modeling at all.
And then I'd been completely conned.
And I suddenly realized like, oh my God, my family might never see me again.
And a sense of panic went through me.
And even more frightening is that my name actually wasn't on that flight log.
And I didn't know that then.
I just only realized it all these years later, you know, through when the lawyers track everything.
They check my passport and the flight logs.
My name's not on that flight log, and I was on that flight.
So it brings into question every single one of Epstein's flight logs.
Because basically, if they had killed me, if I tried to fight them or, like, not complied, I would have died, basically.
Because, you know, it makes you wonder how many other people might have been taken there.
You know, it makes you wonder how many other people might have been taken there.
If they're taking someone for the first time and they're worried the person might sort of object,
then they're just going to deal with them.
They just chuck them in the ocean or, you know, chuck them up and feed them to the sharks.
I don't know.
Or eat them.
I don't know what these people are capable of.
Sorry.
This all makes me anxious.
But anyway.
You're okay.
You know, I just.
You're doing great, by the way. Thank you. Thank you're okay you know i just i really doing great by the
way thank you thank you so much so i just realized if you want to yell at me or call me names if that
makes you feel a little bit better sometimes people sometimes that relaxes people on stage
and so if you feel the need go ahead i understand no you're very kind and thank you so much for
listening and for also helping to spread awareness you you know, and to let everyone know the truth of what actually was going on there.
Because the victims haven't been able to speak out in the media.
You know, they wouldn't let me speak out.
And so I started speaking out on X and then I got blocked again and again.
But I just kept going because, you know, I'm a single mom.
My little boy's got autism and I'm at home with my little boy all the time. And, you know, ever since they gave me settlement money, I was already a businesswoman before Epstein and everything.
Well, I mean, after Epstein, you know, obviously, but before I got the settlement money because, you know, they gave me $900,000 through the Epstein fund.
And then they gave me $1.1 million through the JP Morgan fund, You know, and a lot of the real victims weren't even compensated properly
because luckily I had evidence.
You know, I had my photographs and also because I was taken there from Africa.
You see, a lot of girls who were just driven down the road
or went with their friends, they might not have evidence.
Sorry, now I've lost track, but I haven't actually lost track.
I know exactly who we are.
So I landed on the island basically with these, you know, criminals.
And I was told to stay in this chalet.
And, you know, on the wall was this artwork with like a walrus.
It looked like it was trying to rape like a young girl.
And she had like ECG things on her.
It was like a very frightening place to be, basically.
And, you know, the first day it was just myself and Sarah Killen and Andrei Metrovich and, of course, the staff.
You know, he always had staff running his properties and a chef making food.
And then I started getting called to his bedroom where he would like, you know, I don't like talking about the sexual stuff.
You can skip that part.
We all know.
Like a lot of people say, was he doing some sort of sex magic you know he was trying to like force orgasms from girls it was
like well that's what he did with me but anyway i started getting called to his room and then the
next day another girl arrived and while we were watching the movie she started giving him a blow
job so you know i was just like i'm petrified because I'd only ever had two boyfriends before this. I was an innocent 20 year old, you know, and I know a lot of
20 year olds are innocent, but I don't know. About the, about the, the isolation,
when this was happening, you know, you get called to his room. You already, as soon as you,
as you said, as soon as you're on the flight, you're, you're trapped, right? And so
you, you knew, you said that you knew you'd been conned, you get to the island, you're really
isolated now. Was there a, a major fear of what could happen if you weren't, if you had fought
back or if you were resistance? Like, what was the feel of, if you can describe it. And if, of course,
if it bothers you don't, but I really want to hone in on the fear of isolation. Um, and what
might happen if you did not go along with what was occurring. That's a good question. Cause
basically that wasn't an option, not around people like this. Um, there was, you know,
there was a very sort of strange atmosphere around them and you just knew
that you didn't want to cross them.
They were very, very dangerous
and frightening.
And people, like even the staff,
were very careful around them.
You know, like everyone
was very careful around these people.
They weren't the kind of people
where you're going to start
trying to fight them
because, you know,
they've got everything
very well arranged.
And it's when you're trapped on a place like that, like on this island, you know, it's like, how are you going to get away?
You know what I mean?
I can't swim off there.
I wouldn't know which direction to swim in.
I'm not a good swimmer anyway.
You said that there was other girls that were brought on there.
Did you speak in private with any of these other girls
who were stuck out there on the island at all?
Well, whenever the other girls and I hang out,
because there were more girls coming all the time.
I saw many girls coming, but I never saw any girls getting traffic to anyone other than Epstein.
He would start calling all the girls to his room one at a time through the day.
It was always in the day, not in the night that he'd call us to the room. But you see, what he would do is he had
assistants, like people like Sarah Killen and that girl, Andrea Metrovich, that would be like
following us around. So they're like, it was like to blend, you know, there'd be like a few other
young girls, you know, there would be a few girls who were like 22, 23 that had been working for
him. And then there was me who was 20. there was like Teela Davies who was 17.
The youngest girl I met there was 17, you know,
and we were very much being sort of watched.
And that's another interesting point
that actually someone brought up recently on an interview is,
you know, we were all put in these chalets,
but we never went and hung out in each other's chalets.
Like I didn't do that, you know.
It wasn't like girls like hanging out and talking we were all very very frightened and we just did what we
were told to do and so you were kept separated from the other girls even though you were there
at the same time that's what she's trying to say i have a question about the watching did you notice
um a lot of surveillance equipment cameras did? Did you ever happen upon cameras in your room or see them in the hallways?
Were you aware that you were under a lot of surveillance when you were there on the island or in the residences?
Well, one always felt that one was under surveillance.
But in New York, I was taken to the New York mansion and there they had a whole room full of cameras.
The security man showed me it because the one night I climbed out and had a cigarette in the night and then he was questioning me if I'd opened a window or something.
The security man. And then he showed me all the TVs and, you know, he said that he had the same setup at his house in New Jersey.
It was like a whole room just like full of like at least like 40 TV screens.
So everything was very much being monitored.
That was for sure.
So that's another part of the isolation and coercion aspect of it.
So you get picked up in New York, you get flown to, under the pretense of modeling,
you get taken to New York under the pretense of getting a visa,
being a model, getting a gig, right?
And then you get instantly shuttled down to,
or flown down to Little St. James and the Virgin Islands,
completely isolated, even though there are other girls,
as young as 17, as you just stated, right, that are down there.
Yeah.
Yep.
And you're constantly being monitored by both 17's assistants, his handlers, as well as the surveillance system, which you were shown in New York and told that it was at all of his residences.
I think that's a key, a very important detail that we need to look at later.
I want to ask you another thing.
Did you meet Ghislaine Maxwell?
When did you, you know, did you meet her in New York at all?
Was she on the plane?
I spent a lot of time around her because when I was taken to the island,
she came in on like, I think it must have been like day three or day four,
she arrived.
Because, you know, I spent about three months around them altogether.
Of that time, she was there for at least 60%, 70% of the time.
It was unusual for her not to be around.
But I didn't have a lot to do with her.
I used to see her at lunches and dinners.
But her and Sarah Kellan seemed very close.
Her and Sarah Kellan seemed very close.
And I just, I was in love with them.
What was your, how are they,
like what was your perception of how Jeffrey Epstein behaved, right?
Was he very, was he like overly charming?
Was he aggressive?
I mean, in public and obviously, you know,
I don't want you to dive into private too much,
but I want to know if he's putting on a facade, you know,
for when he's around his staff and,
and maybe like the pilot or other people, um,
what was his demeanor like? And the same question for Glenn Maxwell.
Well, they were both very, very confident. You know,
Epstein was a very confident guy and, um,
he used to like crack jokes and be like cruel to people in a funny way. Like, you know, he was a very confident guy and he used to like crack jokes and be like cruel to people in a
funny way. Like, you know, he was a very clever mastermind man. And it was, you know, at the time
I was 20 years old and he was 49. So he was obviously, you know, it was just, you know,
very, very scary being there. And yeah. And I mean, Maxwell was very, very very frightening as well but I was just like too
scared to even really speak to her much to be honest I was just too scared of her and I just
like used to avoid them I used to just try to stay away until I was called to his room and stuff
I used to spend a lot of time on my own like going walking and I found like disposable cameras there
and I used to take photos um with those cameras and which I'm very grateful that I've got, you know, because it was good to have the evidence, you know, with the law.
Yes, ma'am. It was very, like a lot of people say, a lot of the girls developed sort of Stockholm Syndrome
where you started to think, okay, these people,
that's also the thing, at that age,
you don't really realize you've been captured.
I was like, I just thought that the presidents of America
and these people just did what they liked with people.
I didn't, coming from Africa, I didn't know.
And I think also a lot of the girls were just grateful
to have food on the table.
You know, he used to target girls who came from families
where they were struggling, where they didn't have a lot of money.
Another thing I noticed is that a lot of the girls didn't have fathers
that were very much present in their lives.
So he used to just sort of target people who were really in a, already in a state. Like I was already in a state.
Vulnerable state. Yep. Yeah. And they sort of,
they knew how to pick people like that.
Like they're not going to go for someone who comes from a family where,
where things are all good and it's like solid family, you know,
it was like he picked people who were from a broken time, you know?
So Jeffrey Epstein had, yeah, I do.
I do.
And it's sick that they, you know, that's a very predatory practice and MO,
modus operandi, where they find people of a particular income class or family structure,
even, as you said, you know, a lot of the, a lot of the women didn't
have fathers and they, they prey upon these women who are girls, kids in many cases, uh, who are in
vulnerable circumstances. Uh, I have one more question about the staff. Now there's a lot of
staff on Jeffrey Epstein's Island, even in his his new york mansion uh but especially on his island you
know there was a main mansion and then there was i think i think eight or more private residences
which were you know of their own homes like kind of like cabins or or smaller houses where guests
and staff would stay um did you know there i believe that there are maybe even dozens to hundreds of people employed
at his island residence. Did you ever develop a rapport with any of the staff at all,
maybe in secret? Or did you find any kind of solace from the environment in any of his staff?
Or did they kind of turn a blind eye to what was going on around them?
I'm very curious about these people, you know, to have been so close
and even living on the island when a lot of this was occurring
and they just kind of never reported it or, you know, turned him in.
It's very interesting detail for me.
Did you ever talk to any of the staff in a way that seemed, you know, turned him in. It was, it's very interesting detail for me. Did you ever talk to any of the staff in a way that seemed, you know, friendly or have, have a rapport with them at all?
That's an excellent question, Dee, because actually at the island, there was a husband and
wife who were from South Africa running the island, you know, and I'm from South Africa,
and their names were Miles and Kathy Alexander.
So it made me feel like a little safer that there were people from my home area, you know,
who were there.
And also he'd brought a butler with him from the Cape Grace Hotel, a guy called, I think
his name was Michael Liffman.
He was like Epstein's butler for a bit, you know, so he'd bought this butler from the hotel.
So there were some South Africans around that made me feel like a little safer.
But, you know, I was still very, very frightened.
But it seems like, you know, a lot of these people who went to work for him were trapped, much like the girls he took there, if you ask me.
I mean, I guess what people need to do is look into
bank accounts and see who was paid what. You know, at the island, the South Africans,
like, and I could see that they sort of didn't want to really see what was going on, but
they were like, they were kind to us, you know, these people. But I think they were
also somehow trapped. It's like, imagine if a man and woman are offered a job on an island
you know and then suddenly you go
and it sounds like the most amazing job
where you're going to be earning a lot of money
you can send the money home
because in South Africa a lot of people struggle financially
and then they sort of get there
and they didn't realise
they also probably got conned like me.
They got told, oh, this man's like friends with the president.
And then suddenly they get there and they're bringing these girls in and out.
And it's like, what do they do? How do they get away?
I don't think that the staff are complicit.
I think it was more the, you know, they had to turn a blind eye because they were petrified, much like I was, much like all the victims were, much like anyone who came into these people's paths were terrified of them.
Like being around them, you felt like a mouse with a snake, you know, you know, like when a snake's going to strike.
You don't mess around with people like that, basically.
No, you don't.
No, you don't.
And I can understand your, the intimidation factor that's present there. Go ahead, Shadow, of course. So based on everything you witnessed, saw and experienced and obviously went through all that, do you know if there was any other clients that you would know that are alive today that could possibly that you know are involved with Epstein?
If you want to name them, that would be nice.
If not, that's okay too.
I'm just asking to see.
I don't want you to do anything that's going to make you liable or put you in arms away.
I just want to throw that out there. So if you don't feel you to do anything that's going to put you, make you liable or put you in arms away. I just want to throw that out there.
So if you don't feel comfortable naming anybody.
I speak the truth.
And if the truth bothers them, then fuck them.
Sorry to swear.
But, you know, I didn't see any girls being trafficked to other men.
As I've already said, I met Epstein with Bill Clinton and Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker.
When I was taken to the island, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell was there
and Sarah Killen, and there were young girls coming and going all the time.
I was also taken to Palm Beach, and I met, like, the Dubin family,
the woman, Eva Dubin, who used to be married to him and her daughter.
I mean, not married to him, sorry.
She used to be his girlfriend, Epstein's girlfriend, and her daughter, Selena.
And I also met Michael Bay, the movie producer.
I met him in New Mexico,
the man who made the movie The Island about human cloning,
which, you know, is very relevant to what we're talking about here as well
with the eugenics, transhumanism,
and what's really been going on underneath the island in New Mexico
and probably other properties too.
I met many scientists, you know, I met scientists in New Mexico.
I met scientists in the Caribbean on the island.
You went to his New Mexico residence?
Yeah, I was taken to all the properties over the time, to Paris, New Mexico,
New York, Palm Beach, and God, how could I figure it out?
If you don't mind, can we just, if you can kind of just give us, walk us through a timeline
of where you were taking, so you go from New York, so there's a New York residence, that's
interesting, I didn't know that you had been to all of the residences. So Jeffrey Epstein's main trafficking residences and locations were Palm Beach in Florida, but he got busted in 2007 from victims.
And he moved his operations out of Florida. He socialized in Florida, but he continues operations in Little St. James and New Mexico, which is New Mexico
is like a major one for me because we know a little about it and it's so remote and there
are so many. It's so close to the border and it also has an airstrip and a helicopter pad
and it's very, it's up in the mountains, very secluded. Can you elaborate what your experience was like?
Of course, if you don't feel comfortable,
can you elaborate on what your experience was like
at New Mexico?
Because it is such an
obscure
figure in this story.
And as much information as we can get about
it is great.
Sure, G.
Well, that's the last place that they ever took me to, actually.
And I always thought I was only there for a few days,
but when I look back on my passport,
it seems like I was there for about 10 days,
which almost creeps me out because I don't remember being there for so long.
But at that time, he had that girl, Nadia Monchenko,
the young girl with the blonde hair. She was 17 or so at that time, he had that girl, Nadia Monchenko, the young girl with the blonde hair.
She was 17 also at the time.
And she told me he'd send her to have a nose job.
And, you know, apparently she was like a pilot after that.
That was the last time when I saw them.
And it was just like it was very, very weird at New Mexico.
It was just like, it was very, very weird at New Mexico.
That's when I met Michael Bay.
That's when I met Michael Bay.
But I saw Michael Bay later on after that because I was taken to Hollywood after all of this, actually.
But that's a whole other conversation.
But basically, Michael Bay was staying there.
I met him in the kitchen.
And then Epstein wanted us to watch the movie The Rock.
You know, the movie about Alcatraz with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage?
Michael Bay made the movie. It's an excellent movie because Epstein was like bragging that
Michael Bay was staying there and we all got to watch this movie. So while we were watching the
movie I went outside for a cigarette and I closed the door and then while I was standing outside I
saw like three lights like in a triangle formation and they started moving
strangely and then flying around.
Was Michael...
So you mean
Michael Bay, the director, correct?
Yeah, that one.
The guy who made Transformers
and all these movies about robotic
clones.
And that's a whole other aspect of why I think the untold story of the New Mexico Ranch,
it's called Zorro Ranch for our listeners.
And we've done a deep dive space on that.
If you go look at my highlights, you can explore that with us.
But there is, you know, an element.
The locations are very crucial.
If you think about it this way, you have the most affluent areas in the country.
You have the New Mexico's Oro Ranch, which is just a hop, skip and a jump from from LA, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley, and the Mexico
border. There's also the Florida Keys, right? Yeah, the Caribbean's, right? Virgin Islands,
I'm sorry, where they have another airstrip. So they can fly traffic people internationally from the east and on the west
they can fly people in from california and who knows where and up through mexico
into this location that's secluded up in the mountains you can have hollywood people there
you can have silicon valley tech ceos many people don't know't know Jeffrey Epstein was very much involved with artificial intelligence.
And he was actually a an investor into Valar Ventures, which is one of the the adjacent programs from Peter Thiel and Palantir,
which is a whole nother rabbit hole, a whole nother conversation, which I've been covering.
rabbit hole, a whole other conversation, which I've been covering, but it's all linked together.
So the location though, the, you know, the, the access and the convenience of that secluded
location with the resources of a helicopter pad and a strip, an airstrip right there on the property.
It is an 8,000 acre property. I mean, this is a massive property up in the mountains, very secluded and very controlled. And it's surrounded by state land, which was also leased out in a way that other people weren't allowed on it. didn't they didn't confiscate anything when they raided they didn't really even raid they went
there and they examined but they didn't take anything and that left the door open for people
to come and confiscate evidence before the feds could get to it so largely a lot of the sex
trafficking crimes or victims accounts have gone uninvestigated and unprosecuted because the feds didn't do their job
or their due diligence going there and getting um getting evidence again you heard you heard uh
juliet tell you you know that a security guy took her into the New York security room, showed her all the cameras,
said that the entire house was wired up, and all of Jeffrey Epstein's residences were wired up the same way.
So it doesn't matter where they're at.
If they're in the Virgin Islands and they have people out there, it's all being recorded.
If they're in New York City and these New York City guys, the famous people around there,
lawyers, attorneys, CEOs, whoever, politicians, royalty,
it's all recorded. Same thing for the Palm Beach, all the Palm Beach Richies, the people who are in
that social orbit of very wealthy and affluent individuals, it's all recorded. And especially
the New Mexico ranch, where we know that it was recorded. We have accounts.
We have an inventory list from the FBI says that there was many DVDs,
documents, evidence of surveillance that came up missing or were tampered with
before they could get in there and confiscate it all.
And that would be the West Coast operations, Silicon Valley, San Francisco, Hollywood, L.A., you know, or any of the operations that occurred over the border.
So this is a huge piece of the puzzle that we need to get down to.
I'm just talking about Epstein overall.
Is there any other place that you want to talk about?
France? You said that you were at France.
Or if you want to describe that experience as well.
I don't know how much more time we have with you.
I know it's late where you're at.
So whenever you feel like that you are running out of time, just let me know and I will wind things down.
Thanks, Dee.
No, I've got a few hours to still speak.
We'll see, you know, how we go.
But basically, let's talk more about New Mexico, like what you're saying. Epstein's Loro Ranch is directly in between Roswell and Dulce Base,
which is also highly suspicious. With this sort of UFO I saw, and then I've got weird memories of
weird things that happened to me there. We won't go into that now. We'll talk about it another time.
But Epstein also has the Butterfly Trust with JP Morgan.
It's human trafficking. They're obviously hiding a lot
of stuff here. And also another thing I want to bring up is that they moved very
quickly. When I was taken there with them,
we would always move every five like from place to place on his airplane.
And his airplane was never checked.
Our passports weren't checked.
So they could have been transporting anything in that airplane, basically.
They had two airplanes.
But, you know, like I said earlier, they took me to New York, New Mexico, the island, Palm Beach and Paris.
On the one time back from Paris to New York, we stopped off in Newfoundland apparently to refill.
But planes don't need to refill when they come from Paris to New York, do they?
You know, there's a lot of stuff that you look into.
It's kind of weird.
Did you spend the night at any locations while you were traveling to France?
I was made to stay at Maxwell's apartment, which was very near.
It was in Avenue de Fache.
I can't remember.
It was near to some main point in Paris.
Avenue de Fache. Yeah. near to some main point in Paris. Avenue de Fogh.
Yeah, but we weren't really allowed out.
Like, we went out with his assistants watching us.
Like, we were allowed to go.
We went to the Louvre, you know, the museum.
I love museums.
And we went for coffee.
And that was, like, the only times we were allowed out there.
But when I walked down the passageway, I saw, like,
there were a lot of models staying there, like, in the rooms in the rooms i saw like at least five rooms of models staying there
and the models couldn't really speak much english that's that's interesting uh what was your how
long did you stay at the france because the france apartment is something i know you know we've looked
at a lot of his residences in depth.
And there's a lot of information except for about New York, but New Mexico.
But there is still some information about New Mexico, but hardly any information about France, because France doesn't really have a open like FOIA process that is as efficient as the United States is.
There are a lot more closed mouth about what happens over there, especially if you're a
foreigner trying to get information.
So how long did you stay at the France or the Paris apartment, and what was that like?
You know, what you just said about france is so interesting because i've actually
had quite a few people from france helping and messaging me and they've tried to get me in touch
with lawyers because apparently i could start a lawsuit on french soil you know but i don't know
who to trust or what to do you know i mean i i don't know how to um i'm not i'm not well versed
with legal things would definitely only trust people who you already trust in that regard.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, because they were asking me for like 14,000 euros for a lawsuit.
And, you know, I was just like, you know, I can't spend my money that I've got for my child on a lawsuit that, you know, I obviously want to help.
I mean, if it was going to bring more information, I'd willingly spend the money.
But I don't want to be like I'm conned again.
You know, it's like fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes, ma'am.
Anyway, yeah.
But I was probably there for about five days.
I'm not too sure.
I need to check exactly on my passport and the dates.
But it was definitely like no longer than like a week
because basically they arranged me a Shenzhen visa to get there, you know.
So, yeah, and that's actually weird.
Why would they have given me a visa, got arranged the visa for me
and everything to get me there?
Anyway, so, yeah, they flew me there and then, you know,
then he also there were these other girls that were sort of working with him at the time,
like a girl called Magali Blashon and another girl called Deborah Anselm.
Cause I didn't realize cause I'm, you know,
he had like Magali following me around.
I was only allowed three cigarettes a day and he was like forcing me to do like
gym training and stuff. Cause he was still trying to make it out.
Like he was going to like, um, get me into modeling, you know, he was like trying to make it out like he was gonna like um get me into modeling you know he was like uh it was just very weird yeah to keep you to keep you
to keep you baited yeah and you know that's the other thing like we wouldn't love out any alcohol
there or anything they were very strict like i never ever once had a drink around epstein i never
saw anyone having a drink there um you know, and drugs, absolutely not. You know, it was
absolutely not allowed. But that's also, you know, like the whole thing with the Butterfly
Trust and if they were perhaps taking victims' eggs, which is what it seems like
they were doing, they would want the victims in good health condition.
They wouldn't want, you know, alcohol. They want prime eggs.
Because, you know, that's what the whole thing, the horror story points to, is that they were, in fact, they've got a genetics farm, a cloning laboratory.
As we all know, they cloned Dolly the Sheep in 1996.
In 1997, Bill Clinton banned the use of federal funds for human cloning.
Yes, they did.
Did the, you know, I'm detecting a theme here. They used federal funds for human turning. Yes, they did.
I'm detecting a theme here.
You said that they moved you around quickly. I imagine that is probably a tactic to maintain secrecy, right?
So if you're constantly being moved around quickly, right, and circulating, then that probably minimizes
the chance of, like, law enforcement catching on to what's going on, of you, like, developing a
rapport maybe with locals around you to where you can, you know, you start talking about what
you're experiencing, right, is, real quick real quick when i ask anthony because he's
a border reporter and has covered a lot of trafficking anthony with the cartels and the
human trafficking we see across the border um is it is it normal for them to frequently move
trafficked women around like that in a short order of time to kind of maintain secrecy
order of time to kind of maintain secrecy? Absolutely. And not just south of the border,
also up here in the U.S. Unfortunately, there are a lot of situations like that.
And that's why it's kind of hard sometimes for law enforcement to keep track of these
individuals because they're constantly on the go, always on the move, trying to avoid
to avoid any kind of detection or any kind of apprehensions you're absolutely correct yeah that's
any kind of detection or any kind of apprehensions. You're absolutely correct.
and that was kind of when she said that um when you said that julia uh i instantly was like that
sounds like a tactic for trafficking um from what i've read uh real quick julia do you mind if we
take a panel question we have a speaker on stage that has her hand no not at all but i just want
to say something very quickly is that you know if they were doing organ harvesting and moving eggs and that would
make sense why they were traveling so quickly and why things weren't getting checked on the planes
you know it wasn't just about trafficking you know they could have you know god knows what they were
doing god knows who was on the airplane i don't know i didn't check the whole airplane but you
know if these people were moving humans and moving organs or whatever they were
moving, that's what makes sense for them to move so quickly.
Yeah. Any criminal, any criminal activity they might be up to.
Well, that's what would make sense. And thank you again, Dee. And yeah,
let's go. Yes, ma'am. Thank you so much.
And just to kind of touch on what you just, on this organ trafficking, you and I actually, you might not have known at the time, but the locations that I took you to was actually one of the highest known to the FBI organ trafficking routes that we were actually covering.
I remember that.
Those couple of days that you were out there with me.
Yeah, I figured that out after we went.
I don't know.
I went to the southern border to one of the most cartel-controlled areas
of the southern border during Biden's administration.
There was really no, there was no authority,
U.S. authority on the border
and the cartels controlled everything.
And I got a very firsthand look at the operations
that were going on down there.
And it's very disturbing.
And organ trafficking is definitely a thing.
Go ahead, I'm sorry, Anthony.
Sorry, Red, I have to jump in one more second.
Sorry, Al Chapa, Escobar, they were all working with the FBI, with the government, it appears. go ahead i'm sorry anthony sorry right i have to i have to jump in one more second sorry al chapa
escobar they were all working with the fbi with the government it appears you know these guys
were bringing stuff and there was no one checking them coming in with the drugs you know drug
trafficking human trafficking there's a lot of money in this business and i'm so sorry to butt
in again but you know and also no i didn't know this until we started covering this the human
trafficking especially sex trafficking operation, just that single operation.
We're not counting drugs or organ harvesting or anything else.
The sex trafficking.
Yeah, I know.
I understand.
I understand.
But just so that we can get a picture for my audience.
Sex trafficking alone has an annual revenue in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
Okay, they estimate between 200 and 300 billion dollars a year, okay, of just sex trafficking.
That's not including all of the other adjacent trafficking crimes that occur, organ harvesting,
drug trafficking, right the sex trafficking industry that one alone is an estimated 200
to 300 billion dollars a year i just like and when you think about the scope of jeffrey epstein's
operation and the level of cover-up we're seeing with this case i want you to have that in the back of your minds, that this is a
$200 billion to $300 billion operation overall every single year, and why individuals might
have a strong incentive both in and out of the government to keep it hidden from us.
Go ahead, Noamers.
And also Bill Clinton was involved with cocaine trafficking
through Arkansas. If people look it up,
apparently Bill Clinton was
involved with drugs coming
into Arkansas. Everyone can look it up online.
You know, and also
Epstein and J.P.
Morgan is $1 billion worth of human
trafficking transactions between their
accounts. Let me just repeat that.
$1 billion worth of human trafficking That's fact. They need, you know, there's a level of accountability here where that's all documented because of how banks are regulated.
There's no reason that the government couldn't use those financial transactions and the witness testimony and bring these facilitators of trafficking to justice, but are choosing not to do so.
And we can get into that towards the end of the space, because I have a lot to say about the lack of accountability when it comes to Epstein and his operations. No mercy. Go ahead. You can go ahead and ask your question now.
I would just ask that you be very mindful and respectful of our abuse survivor on stage.
Yes, I definitely understand. Can you guys hear me? Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you so much,
Juliet, for coming on. I am impassioned with this topic because as a survivor myself, I know what the doing and how are you coping with all of this now that it's back into the mainstream media and it's like every day being spoken about?
How are you coping with this?
That's number one.
And number two, you mentioned earlier about a Jersey house.
I never knew that there was a house, that he had a house in Jersey.
I always knew the Paris, the New York, the New Mexico,
and the Virgin Islands. I never knew that there was like, in the West Palm Beach, I never knew
that there was anything going on in Jersey. Thank you, Mercy, for being so kind. Is Mercy
still on here? Yes, here you are, Mercy. Yes, ma'am, she is. Thank you for being so kind. Is Missy still on here? Yes, here you are, Missy. Yes, ma'am, she is.
Thank you for being kind.
And, you know, it's been very difficult
going through all of this, to be honest.
It's been horrible.
You know, when I came back from there,
I was shattered.
You know, I was hospitalized 10 times
with serious panic attacks.
I spent about seven years after coming back
from that horrible place,
feeling like I was going to die every day.
I was put on tranquilizers for a year.
That's why I stand against pills unless it's absolutely necessary.
You know, I'm 43 now.
This happened when I was 20.
I'm still, you know, every day I'm getting stronger.
And I'm so sorry that you've also been abused and through pain.
And I send you lots of love.
And I know that a lot of people who are listening here have been abused in some way.
You know, and what I just want to say is that it's time for demons to go down
and for angels to come up and help us and make change
change because it's been very painful for a lot of people. Also what you were saying
because it's been very painful for a lot of people.
with the staff, what were you saying about the staff? Sorry, I got distracted.
No, the house in Jersey. I didn't know there was a house.
Sorry. Yeah, thank you so much, Missy. Well, Epstein's security man who had the cameras in his New York mansion, he said that he had the whole same setup at his house in New Jersey.
So it was like one of his staff had a property somewhere that was set up so it could be sort of monitored 24-7, I suppose.
Oh, okay.
So the staff had a separate location with cameras at it for the residents.
Yeah, the man who worked there told me.
Interesting.
It's a very good question, actually, because, you know, it's something we just, I was told, and I say it, but it's like when you look into it, it's like, why did this other man have a whole setup in New Jersey?
Do you remember his name by chance? i don't at all um unfortunately i remember like sort of what it's definitely something i'm going to be looking at hard uh over the next few few
few weeks uh i'm gonna i'm gonna be researching that hard that's a i didn't pick up on that
detail no mercy good catch um i'm trying to navigate the space. Uh, that's, that's why I love spaces
because we can crowdsource, uh, intelligence here and, and compassion and, uh, get people's
story out in an unfiltered way. And, um, I just want to thank you again and no mercy thank you for your questions uh famous go
ahead you have a question for yes i do first of all calling from canada and i just want to say
first of all so sorry about all that you went through at that time and since then my heart
goes out to you that that that that is not that is inhumane I salute your courage in speaking out.
I thank you on behalf of everybody listening.
And for all the victims and for all the future victims of these horrible people, thank you.
Did they do anything to coerce your silence?
I mean, okay, you got a settlement much later, and you're very open about that, and good for you, but that does not erase everything.
What did they do once you got away from them?
Did they do something to coerce you?
Your silence.
Thank you, Famous, for your amazing question
and also thank you for being so amazing and supportive.
So what happened is Epstein told me that he worked with the CIA
and he had my family's name on a list.
And he told me that a girl accused him of rape, so he planted drugs in her apartment and had her sent to prison.
So, I mean, I was obviously completely terrified.
And, you know, and actually, thank you for asking if they've been trying to take, like, to silence me, because recently they actually have.
to silence me because recently they actually have. You know, they say that there's this lawsuit
against the FBI and they're trying to get me to sign a document where I'm not allowed to post
anything online without a lawyer's approval. And I'm the kind of person who can do that because
I'll go have a few drinks and I'll just post, you know, and I'm not going to sign any contract.
And also I'll never sign away my freedom of speech because I'm not for sale.
And, you know, this is actually ridiculous.
They say I've got to notify them of any posts I'm putting online.
And I'm not for sale.
They can offer me a billion, billion dollars.
They can offer me every cent in the world.
I don't want it because that doesn't make sense to me, if you know what I mean.
You know, it's horrible.
I've been through a horrible time here.
And I don't know who to trust anymore.
But I know I can trust people, good people, like the people on this group.
I know there are obviously a few dodgy people listening.
Well, hi, guys.
But most of the people here are amazing.
And, yes, they've been trying to, now they're trying to silence me secretly.
Sorry, my little boy wants nummies.
He wants something to eat.
I'm coming now, guys.
Sorry.
Love you. That's all right. I'm going to, guys. Sorry. Love you. That's alright.
I'm going to give you a break and we'll kind of go over. If you guys are just joining
us, we are live with
Juliet Bryant, who is a Epstein
survivor.
And she has been
trafficked through all of his
known residences, which was news
to me until tonight.
The Virgin Islands, the Florida Palm
Beach residents, New Mexico, New York, and France, even France. And they moved her around quickly
and shuffled her around a lot. I think that's an important detail. You know, Sally, are hearing
any of this, you know, you've talked about Epstein quite a bit.
I know you have.
And the trafficking.
Are there any patterns that are emerging from Juliet's story that stick out to you?
I've actually been listening.
This is probably the fourth time that I've listened to her speak in a space.
And they're all, to me, very classic patterns, right?
A lot of people would say oh
these girls you know they they they made money so you know it's on them and i've always just said
that these people were coerced they were pretty much thought i'm going to have this elaborate
career and they were they were duped and they were trapped and i just really and isolation is an
intimidation uh. Absolutely.
Intimidating them, coercing them, silencing them, using fear.
And I listen to her story every time and I almost cry because it just, it breaks my heart that at 21 years old, you're full of life.
You have everything and you're going out and doing your dream.
It's your dream to be a model, right?
And they took something from you.
And I just, I'm And they took something from you.
And I just implore your court.
I love that your courage, and I love that you keep speaking out about this.
I've been following you for quite some time.
So thank you very much for being here today.
Yeah, amazing.
I don't know if she's still with. Oh, I'm there.
Was it Sally speaking?
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you so much, Sally.
It really means so much to me that you care.
And, you know, it has been just horrible going through all of this.
And, you know, there's other means of coercion.
Sorry, my little boy in the background.
But, you know, a lot of us... It's all good.
It's a sweet sound to hear.
I'm a mom and I'm going to look after my boy. He comes first.
But anyway, you know, also what they've been trying to offer is like the U.S. Virgin Islands has given a $10 million fund for the victim's mental health.
So they're trying to offer for us to see psychologists and get therapy.
And I was very much wanting to go ahead with the program because, you know,
I've had therapy in the past and I think talk therapy is excellent.
But within this contract, they make sure that you have a provision for a
psychiatrist, which means that they can just put you on pills without your,
you know, without you actually saying anything if you're on this program.
And I turned it down.
I don't know any victim who's actually accepted it so far. And then now what they're doing is they're offering like
art programs, yoga, anything you want to do, but there has to be provision for a psychiatrist.
I mean, it's a big red flag, isn't it? Especially considering that a lot of the victims have
been found dead. Virginia Gifford was found dead. Carolyn Adriano was found dead.
These are some of the bravest girls who testified against these bastards, and they're dead.
They've died within the past five years.
There are more girls who've been found dead.
And let me just, sorry, have a break.
Sorry.
Okay, that's okay.
We are going to have some questions from the audience.
Of course, she needs a break for a second, but these are important questions.
By the way, I am paying attention.
If you guys are leaving those in the purple pill, tag me.
Of course, I can't ask everybody's questions.
I do have some in the DMS that are people are asking me to ask.
We're going to give her a bit of a break.
Just let me know whenever you are ready and
if we're gonna make i just want to make some generalized statements right now
i'm i'm listening i'm just making a sandwich oh you're good you're good it's good
it's um uh go ahead darby
hi julie and thank you for your, your, your, your courage.
Just remember that she's eating right now.
So just kind of make a statement and then answer any questions.
I'm not eating.
I'm making a sandwich for my little boy, but I'm nothing.
Yeah.
And then I'll be back on when, when he's got a sandwich.
I won't take long.
Sorry.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you very much.
I want to thank you for your courage.
Your courage is amazing.
I'm sure you were constantly in the same group or at least passing through with other victims.
And, you know, supporting victims is something that's so important right now and also always is to me. And I wanted to find out with regards to this,
you tapped on something that I heard that I wanted to maybe possibly go into a little bit.
You said something about the babies. Tell us a little bit more about that.
Is there, what, what were they, I hate to ask this.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to.
No, I don't.
I've been, I was, we talked about this in the background.
And when it comes to.
About the babies that they've murdered.
I mean, I don't, I never witnessed anything like that, but I'm, I've been made.
It's quite clear that they were doing my eggs and doing disgusting things.
And yes, it hurts me very badly, whatever they've been doing.
But we all know about the story about how they all drink adrenochrome or whatever.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know more about that.
If I did, I'd be dead.
Or I'd be high on adrenochrome.
But I'm not doing it.
I would never even.
I'm a vegetarian.
I don't drink blood.
My question was more about the adoptions, though.
Yeah, I don't.
Again, I'm trying to keep it into her account of what she saw. What adoptions? Well, let's ask. What adoptions? Because I don't again i'm trying to keep it into her account of what she saw
and what well let's ask what adoptions because i don't know about it yeah that wasn't brought up
okay okay i just wasn't sure if is that okay diligent or no well i'm just i'm trying to keep
it evidence-based and on topic she didn't mention anything about adoptions and she said she hasn't
witnessed any other kinds
of trafficking herself but she was alluding to what they were also capable of and probably doing
but i don't want to correct yeah like if they were making eggs they would have been selling
children to people like perhaps like right you know like look how paris hilton wasn't pregnant
she yet she had a surrogate she She suddenly got these two children. You know,
a lot of these celebrities. Yeah, she was in vitro. Yeah. But I'll just be very candid here,
right? Is that people with trauma have their own experiences when they share things. And,
you know, individuals like Juliet have been very candid with their experiences as they remember them.
And it is being used to discredit them.
And they're being dragged for it.
And I am not going to allow that to be the result of platforming her.
She has been very candid, very honest, and very forthcoming with information.
We're going to keep it fact-based on what we know and what she says that she can prove and what she has. And we're not going to allow anybody
to discredit her by going off on subjects that are not being brought up. So that is my prerogative,
and I want to make sure that we stick to it. My apologies, Diligent.
Thank you. All right, let's go to Sally. Go ahead.
Yeah, thank you.
So I've followed this story for many years,
but I'm not asking you to say anything to me.
I just want to, I was in communication.
I was following Maria Farmer,
but I hope that she's well if you're in communication.
Just let her know that there are people out there that are praying for her,
even though they're not trying to pry into her life
because I've been through her timeline and I go and just try to make sure she's okay, but I know
that she has been heavily suppressed, heavily discredited, and I just want you to tell her
that people do believe her, and I do think that she's brave, and that she's been through a lot,
and I hope that through her cancer that she's doing better.
Thanks, Sally. Maria Pham is an amazing woman, and we've had quite a few phone calls.
You know she's trying to fight these people. It's very confusing for all of us like knowing
exactly what to do. It's been very very frightening but she's amazing and her sister Annie is also amazing. I've spoken to both of them.
And, you know, hopefully we'll go ahead with this FBI case soon,
but I'm most certainly not signing away my freedom of speech.
I'm trying to be caring about the victims,
because there are many amazing girls who've been very badly hurt by this.
And I think the more you want to FBI is, the better. If the,
if the Department of Justice is saying that there's over a thousand victims, we know that in sex trafficking cases or these kinds of cases,
organized crimes,
what we find out is always the tip of the iceberg.
If we know about a thousand,
there could be,
you know,
orders of magnitude more.
And because the perpetrators of these types of sex crimes,
both pedophiles and sex traffickers and their clients,
they don't stop often even when they're caught.
The rate of recidivism for sex crimes is extremely high,
even for individuals who are incarcerated for it when they get back out. When they aren't caught and they aren't brought to justice, the recidivism rate is out there.
They don't stop.
They keep doing it.
So if there was a thousand, over a thousand women and kids, children and women victimized by Epstein and his associates, they have probably
very likely victimized thousands or tens of thousands more over the decades. This has been
going on for three decades that we know of, right? And the people who aren't held accountable can very well be out there doing it today.
That is why justice for these victims is so imperative.
It's not only so that they can get justice themselves, but it's also so that these new victims get justice and prevent further harm, right? Like if we don't stop it now, while we have the ear of the public
in regards to Epstein, this is going to continue. This is the status quo. This is normalizing
pedophilia and sex trafficking. And that is going to be the way of the Americans and the world,
because we, we influence the rest of the world. If it's culturally accepted that pedophilia and trafficking,
sex trafficking, are allowed to go on with no accountability, if that sets the standard,
well, then that's what we're looking at for our entire future. And I am not okay with that.
We have to use this momentum and use the moment we have now. I don't think we'll ever have another opportunity like we do right now to find accountability for the victims,
find accountability for the perpetrators and their handlers and their enablers and take them all down right now.
I think that I mean, I honestly believe that with everything in my core.
Zantani, do you have any comments about the conversation so far
no i'm just listening
okay um all right so we're gonna do a pivot you know you said it's been going on for decades in
fact it's been going on for centuries you know that's what another thing i'd like to bring up
is the bloodlines a lot of people need to test out their blood because you get different people here on Earth.
You know, and a lot of the presidents from America, they're all RH negative.
The royal family, you know, they call it blue blood.
They all are H negative.
And a lot of us don't actually know our blood types.
And, you know, it's much like they burnt the witches in 1430.
Sorry to go into history, but, you know, history is everything, in fact. They burnt the witches in 1430. Sorry to go into history, but you know, history is everything in fact.
They burnt the witches in 1430, the people of the Good Bloodline, the Holy Grail.
Because you get the serpent seed, you get God seed.
Serpent seed was when Eve reached the snake, I mean the apple from the snake, sorry.
Am I going a bit too out here?
I'm going to just, sorry, I don't want to bore our listeners.
Well, actually, I don't fucking care bore our listeners well actually no you're not
boring if i bore them everyone needs to wake up and these these people i want you to i want you
to look at the comment section i want you to look at the comment section comment what they like and
they are they are they are they are clamoring for you there is a lot of people who are thanking you
and praising your your heroism and your courage and just blessing you.
There is a lot of support for you in the comment section. If you go look, scroll down through it.
There's no hate. There's no one complaining. There's a lot of support and love for you and
what you've gone through. I have some questions from the dms that i promised that i would ask and from the comment section so if you don't mind um no of course we'll get to black
lines in the garden of eden nacer and the apple and eve yeah we'll get to that later i think we
should i think i was trying to start at the very beginning but we can start at the end
i think i think if we're gonna get into the wee stuff, I will do a space with you and Reptile Hybrid, as he is my expert on that.
And let him run that one.
But what I'm saying is not WiiWoo stuff. It's actually vital.
It's like angels versus demons, and it's very relevant.
No, I agree.
Tucker Carlson said he was attacked by a demon.
Like, this is becoming mainstream now.
I believe we are in a spiritual battle.
Okay, let's get back to the facts.
I mean, like, the physical
facts. But these are all facts, too.
But let's start from your beginning.
Yes, ma'am.
Can I add one thing, Gilded?
Can I add this?
She knows how I am.
Juliet knows I was very
candid with her
Before we started the space
I know how you are too
But I just want everyone to keep in mind
That what she's talking about is a lot of
Satanic ritual abuse
It is maybe better for a different space
But it is very
I'm definitely willing to
I'm definitely willing to participate
And support
Whenever we have that conversation.
I also understand that it scares people.
And we're talking about the financial stuff.
It's things that people do.
I think here's the problem.
It's not really a problem, but it's a disconnect where everyday normal listeners or average Americans don't understand.
And so it's, you you know what do humans do when
they don't understand something should we do a whole space on brainwash yeah no they've been
they have definitely been propagandized i've been i've been fighting it the last
month where i'm calling out when the administrative state is influencing both the legacy left-wing
media and the new right-wing media. And you can see it in real time
where they are propagandizing the masses in public on X. And I'm like, hey, look at this.
They are literally, the same Murdoch family owns this left-wing outlet and owns Fox News.
And on this side, they're villainizing Trump. And on this side, they're villainizing Trump. And on this side, they're villainizing
Obama. And they're trying to distract you away from the Epstein story, the survivors and the
criminals that are allowing it to go on. And you are fighting each other instead of paying attention
to the real story, which is that there is a massive corruption scandal surrounding Epstein,
involving our government, involving our intelligence agencies.
It's front and center. And everybody's arguing about shit that has nothing. I mean, it has no
bearing anymore. Right. It's just a distraction. And I've been trying to wake people up to this.
And I have slowly but surely, after a lot of backlash from my position. I am seeing people come around. I am seeing people wake up to it.
People who are just calling me names two weeks ago, a week ago, have been listening to the spaces
and sending me DMs and be like, oh my God, I'd never seen this. I mean, Democrats, hard leaning,
left leaning, woke Democrats, and I don't mean that as a pejorative, that have been Trump haters and MAGA haters and everything for the last, like, their lives, pretty much, are now coming into
my spaces and saying, you know what, I had just realized that I'm being propagandized,
and now I see it. And now I think, you know, there is more to this than meets the eye.
Something is going on within our
government that has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat. And they're waking up. I'm seeing
MAGA. I'm seeing Republicans on the other side going through the same evolution. And it is
necessary that we do it now more than ever, because they have been able to get us to ignore
things like the Epstein story for so long, even though we don't want to. They've been able to get us to ignore things like the epstein story for so long even though
we don't want to they've been able to throw us a bone here and there and not really demand
accountability and and it's been so blatant and this is what woke me up okay uh it was so blatant
this time mega means witch or sorceress in latin Italian. Everyone, just do your research.
Look up what MAGA means. I didn't know that, but I don't want to disparage any of my MAGA listeners.
Bam.
Hypnosis.
These guys into brainwashing.
Wake up, everyone.
Anyway, I'm sorry.
Wake up.
I'm being fine.
You okay?
I just want to talk to Candace.
Love you, D.
Yeah, you're good.
You're good.
Fine.
Let me ask my questions now.
So here's the questions.
Are you still connected to the defense attorney that you had, the public facing one, Boise,
and whether or not you guys have received any of the transaction details regarding J.P. Morgan or anything?
Do you have access to through your attorney or the victim's attorneys?
Have you been able to uncover more evidence of the financial transactions
between Epstein and his network and the trafficking operation?
Well, I'm still in touch with the lawyers who helped.
If I've messaged Sigrid McCauley, if I'm stressed,
like, for instance, Sarah Ransom was trying to threaten me,
which was very frightening, in fact.
She contacted my child's father and tried to cause trouble,
and she's never even met me in her life.
So that was a big red flag.
Anyway, I don't like to badmouth anyone here.
But they've always been kind and sort of messaging me. But,
you know, there's also a lot of weird stuff with the whole process of the whole victims fund I was
put through. Like they put me through a six hour medical exam with four professionals. They didn't
do this to anyone else. I was medically analyzed. They went through more of my information than they
would with a murderer. They sent a data data drive they went through my whole computer everything i've ever done in my life all my photographs all my emails
they wanted my password for my facebook for my gmail everything they went through everything
um but yeah i'm still in touch with them but i don't know which side anyone's on anymore did you
did you ever meet in dyke or khan his main two attorneys and the executors of his estate at all?
Either before his death, like during your trafficking or afterwards, like during your, yeah, at any time.
Have you ever met either one of those, Darren Indyke or his accountant Khan?
Both of them were attorneys and they're currently the executors of the estate that set up.
They actually set up the victim's compensation fund and are currently the executors of the estate that set up. They actually set up the victims compensation fund and are currently still executors of the estate.
They oversaw his operations, including the LLCs that owned Little St. James Island and the New Mexico and New York residences.
Indyke, Darren Indyke, his attorney, was the one that set that up
and oversaw that operation.
And so you never had any run-ins with them
during your trafficking or even afterwards?
I've never met them in person,
but you can see there's a document
that says Juliet Bryant versus Darren Indyke and Khan.
You know, because he was,
you know, these guys were running the,
you know, you can see it in the court documents.
There's a document with my name and theirs on it,
but I've never ever seen them in real life or ever spoken to them.
But, you know, there's a lot more going on with all of this
because also with the whole fund, you know,
apparently most of the settlement money went to girls who were,
in fact, accomplices,
like to kind of hush people up. This is just what I've heard. Okay, I'm very grateful for the money
I got, but I've just heard that there were girls who were sort of working with them and benefiting
and making a lot of money that got like seven... To contain the story. Yeah, they got like seven
million dollar settlements, apparently, you know, and a lot of other victims who actually didn't have evidence got
nothing. But also another thing is that with 200 victims claiming from the fund, from the JP Morgan
fund, where are the victims? Why are they not speaking out? Where are they? Because if 200
girls are claiming from fund, at least five or 10 of them should be speaking out and fighting
human trafficking. It's weird for people to just take money and like keep quiet. You know what I mean?
If you actually are, if you're a real victim and you've been through this, you're not going to
take money and keep quiet. You're going to keep fighting. You know what I mean?
Yeah. You just bring up really, yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And you bring up a really good point.
The DOJ just at the, inune said that there was over a thousand victims
that's not counting you know that's their own tally that's separate oh there'll be many many
more and that's just the goals whose eggs they've taken what about if they were actually creating
their own children in an underground lab then it's actually so what what is um julia have the
has the fbi uh and and of course don't share anything that you don't feel comfortable with, but during the entire course of this, I mean from after your experience until now, has the FBI ever interviewed you in regards to a criminal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, into Ghislaine Maxwell, or any of their possible co-conspirators?
Maxwell or any of their possible co-conspirators?
Well, that's an excellent question, because what happened is the FBI did start contacting
me just after Epstein died, and they wanted to fly my child and I to America.
So they arranged us emergency visas.
We had visas within a couple of days, and then my child's father wouldn't let us travel,
thank goodness, in fact.
But they didn't want to interview me when goodness in fact but um they didn't want to
interview me when I couldn't travel they didn't want to do it on zoom or online they just sort
of dropped everything and I was like emailing them and I was saying please I'm having nightmares
like please where's the victim's therapy that they've promised you know it was it was very
horrible like everything that was when everything was like sort of happening you know after you die
because I it's something that I just sort of of kept like in a box my whole life.
It's like a horrible time of my life that really shattered me that I never spoke about to my family or anything.
And suddenly I had to tell my family what had happened and everything.
You know, it was a really shattering time of my life.
And I was having nightmares of him coming after me.
And, you know, and I really needed help.
And then they just ignored my emails.
And then like two weeks later, they'd emailed back and they'd be like, sorry, we were out of office, you know and I really needed help and then they just ignored my emails and then like two two weeks later they'd emailed back and they'd be like sorry we were out of
office you know so um basically they only wanted to interview me in person which if you ask me I
find it sorry to get emotional I just find it highly suspicious when someone can only be
interviewed in person what on earth do they want to do did they want to especially when he was
already dead yes exactly why did they only want to interview me in person? What on earth did they want to do? Did they want to kill me? Especially when he was already dead. Yes, exactly. Why did they
only want to interview me in person? They could have done it
over Zoom. As we know, COVID soon kicked
in. A lot of interviews were done over
Zoom. We're doing an
interview right now online. They
never phoned me. They never took my statement.
And they're just liars.
They're liars. And they ignored me.
And that's why they've got the whole case going against
the FBI and they want me to sign on board, but I'm not signing away my,
my freedom of speech.
That sounds shy.
I would definitely tread carefully.
If I found that document,
I wouldn't even be allowed to do the space because it also included all
interviews, speaking with anyone publicly.
Like they were trying to like silence me.
And how long ago was that?
How long ago was it to try to get you signed?
A week ago.
Wow. Yeah. How long ago was it to try to get you to sign that? A week ago Wow So since this has gone mainstream again
With what's going on with the administration
And it being all over the news
They tried to get you to sign an NDA
That didn't allow you to speak unless you referred to a lawyer
Even on spaces or on social media at all?
Yes.
And they actually were sending me this contract for the past, like,
over a year.
But, you know, I always just, like, I want to question everything
and check clauses.
But in the most recent one that they sent me, it said that basically
I'm not allowed to post anything online.
I'm not allowed to do any interviews unless a lawyer approves.
And I don't like that because it's not right so if you don't mind without naming them who are they who is who is trying to get you to sign this without like of course you know getting yourself
in trouble or naming them can you tell us are they from the government are they from an organization
are they from a lawyer group who are they who's trying to get they from a lawyer group? Who are they?
Who's trying to get assigned this? It's a lawyer group. And now they said that they'll remove the clause, but, you know,
I still just don't trust anything anymore because I'm like, I'm wondering why I have no,
because I asked them how many other victims have signed on and they said, oh, about eight.
So, but they're not being precise here. And I also asked like, cause you know,
Maria Farmer signed with them and I was asking, has her sister signed with them?
Because, you know, and they said she's about to.
But I just want to ask more questions before I sign any documents, you know, especially like, you know, how lawyers are sneaky and they can put hidden clauses in there.
And also it said that I have to go to America for any hearings.
And I can't come to America, unfortunately, not after what they did to me there, you know, fbi i wouldn't i wouldn't if you're safe where you are stay where you are stay safe i i
wouldn't i wouldn't put myself in harm's way whatsoever uh look at there's too many people
yeah there's too many bad things happen you need to stay safe and and also i can't travel without
my child's father's consent so you know and also you know it's just not a good time for me to come
over there with everything going on of course you know you know, with all of this, it's like, I have a question
for you for me. Would you be willing to coordinate or at least in some capacity,
bring in maybe other survivors to come on spaces to come into a space like mine and use my platform
to speak to the public in this capacity
with no kind of agreement whatsoever you and just whatever they are comfortable with
well you know that's the other thing is i used to speak to a lot of the survivors and slowly but
surely everyone sort of changed their numbers everyone's vanished but there's another survivor
i got in touch with um recently you know aud Audra, who seems an amazing woman, who's also been sort of saying the same things as myself.
And I actually said to her, it would be great if she could come in the space.
So she's going to, you know, get herself going on X and come on, because I think a lot of the victims are very traumatized.
And, you know, it's very hard for people.
You know, also, that's i i have an online business so
i'm used to sort of online marketing and you know getting online and and you know well they're
strict in numbers right so i think if victims see that that there are victims coming forward
together in a way that is going to be hard for anyone to try to silence them um they're going
to be more emboldened and And the more it'll have an,
you know, it'll have a snowball effect where if victims are seeing other victims being respected
and allowed to share their stories in a safe way, that is giving them a platform, the more victims
that come forward, like you said, where are the victims? Well, if they all start to come together,
and there's a thousand or thousands of
them, they can't be silenced. And that's going to be really impactful on policy coming out of the
administrative state, you know, the CIA, the FBI, the intelligence agencies, the Trump administration,
whoever, right? That's going to be a really powerful thing, even with the courts, you know,
it's going to be really hard for the courts to say no to releasing information when you have 1000 victims demanding justice and transparency,
you know, what are they that looks really bad on their system. So I think that the more
survivors who are, you know, willing to, of course, I don't want anybody to be named if
they don't want to be named, but any survivors who are willing to step forward and share their story and be heard and
work together, you know, work together collectively, not through me, right, through each other,
to put pressure on the administrative state to give justice to these victims and to bring these perpetrators to justice, I think that's
the most powerful thing that you guys have, is your collective voices, you know, if they're ready to
find it. You're totally right, Dee, but what I've also been told is apparently some of the girls
were made to sign sneaky non-disclosure agreements where they're not allowed to speak out.
This is just something I've been told along the way.
I don't know if it's true.
But that would make sense about why people aren't speaking out.
And also if, like what I've heard from other people as well, that the perpetrators were actually given the largest settlement monies.
Like, for instance, Sarah Killen also apparently submitted through
the fund. The ones they wanted to pay off were the ones who had the most information,
if you know what I mean. And, you know, unfortunately, a lot of young girls who are
abused, it's very hard for them to capture information, you know, when they're stuck
and they're getting raped by this horrible man. And, you know, it's just very hard for girls to capture information.
But you see, in my case, I found the digital cameras in the kitchen
and I took photographs and, you know, there's also I was flown there.
So there's information on the flight log.
But I think what's happened here is a lot of the main victims
haven't been compensated at all.
And I think a lot of the perpetrators have been paid a lot of money.
I mean, that's just what would make sense to me,
because they're basically trying to pay people to, I guess, keep quiet in a way.
But anyone who had sort of evidence, and it's not perpetrators,
there are a lot of victims who've been paid money, of course.
But it's sort of, there are many grey areas in all of this, you know,
because a lot of the victims were also recruiting girls for him.
Like he offered me two thousand dollars for any young girl I'd bring to him or four thousand dollars to stay there and work with him.
But I wouldn't do any of that. But, you know, a lot of other girls would have been, you know, there are a lot of gray areas.
And, yeah, I just think a lot of the girls are very terrified and also if they
went through all my information on my computer they would have gone through information on other
people's computers so basically if anyone's ever done anything slightly illegal in their life
you know they're going to be cornered luckily i don't do any illegal stuff like i do smoke weed
and stuff but i don't do illegal things but and like a lot of people slip up and you know maybe
um do something.
Yeah, they're going to use any dirt they can find on somebody to try to coerce them to keep them silent.
Also, America is a lot more strict than Africa.
See, I live in a much more free place and they can't get me here.
But, you know, that's why I think a lot of the girls in America are very frightened to speak out.
And I don't blame them at all.
Well, I've been praying for them.
I prayed for you before I started this space. And, uh, I, you know, I have a question from
a, a, uh, somebody who does this for a living, they work with abuse survivors and she had a
question for you and I'm going to read it to you now. It says, if she's comfortable with it,
will you ask her to touch on the impact that
trauma has had on your her memories um we know from research that trauma causes memories to be
fragmented and oftentimes the details of their experience that stick will seem insignificant to
uninvolved people but they are actually extremely significant victims are frequently doubted and
discredited due to their difficulty to recount their story in a way that is easy to understand. So I think it's important for
your audience to hear her talk about that if she can. So can you talk about how the trauma
has impacted your recollection and your memories? Well, I've got a very good memory, thank goodness,
but obviously it has, I've been through a lot of trauma with it
there are also times where it was sort of like
where one almost has a blank out
it's like that movie Blink Twice
that Zoe Kravitz made
and thank you for the question
because it's a good one
that movie Blink Twice
where they're taken to the island
and they're basically being drugged
and they don't really know what's going on.
You know, there was a lot of weird stuff going on at places like this.
And it was just very frightening being around people like them.
And I wasn't okay.
It's taken me years to recover.
I mean, I'm still recovering 23 years later.
So God knows what they're capable of.
Yes, ma'am.
Let's go to some of the stagehands.
Thank you, Juliet.
Tyler, do you have anything you want to say or ask?
Yeah.
Thanks a lot, Diligent.
And I really appreciate you, Juliet.
This is such an honor to speak with you.
And I join everyone else in just praising your courage to just speak out like this.
And that was so badass of you to not sign that NDA.
Wow, way to go.
The one thing I guess, I have a lot of questions, but I'm not going to ask a lot of questions.
There's a lot of people here and a lot of other questions. But the one thing I think I would want to ask you is you've referenced Epstein's connections to intelligence agencies like the CIA.
And we're on an investigation in these spaces to get to the bottom of who we need to call in to subpoena.
Who do we need to subpoena to get them in front of Congress and
testifying? And one of the things we're really investigating is his connections to the CIA.
So what can you say about anything that you observed or heard other people say
that made you suspicious? Or do you have any hard evidence that he was affiliated with the CIA or any other foreign
intelligence like the Mossad perhaps? Thank you so much for the question Tyler and thank you for
caring. You know I don't have hard evidence about the CIA but you know he did tell me he worked with
the CIA and also with the research I've done it seems that Maxwell and Wexner were both working with Mossad, which is very much, I
suppose, connected to the CIA. You know, also, like I said, I met Michael Bay, the movie
producer. If you're going to subpoena anyone, I'd suggest you subpoena him. He also apparently
met with the CIA. You know, he made the movie the island also when i was in
hollywood he tried to take me back to his house and tried to make me have sex with him but i got
away so i don't talk about that but if you want to subpoena someone i'd say subpoena him
and i'll you know back up everything um and what um so so you're the second person that has
had firsthand experience with jeffrey epstein on the record this is on the second person that has had firsthand experience with Jeffrey Epstein on the record.
This is on the record now that has said that he was in CIA.
So Acosta said it in 2000, in the late 2010s, when he was asked why he gave the sweetheart plea deal to Jeffrey Epstein in 2007.
And he said, and I'm quoting, I was told he was intelligence and to leave it alone.
And what was the context of your conversation
where Jeffrey Epstein told you he was CIA?
Was he bragging to you?
Was he explaining why he was so connected?
What was the context, if you don't mind?
Oh, no, not at all.
It was before I was being sent home the first time.
It was almost like a threat.
Like he said, he worked with the CIA. He had my family's name on a list.
And a girl who accused him of rape, he planted drugs in her apartment and had her sent to prison.
You know, so it was a very, very obvious threat.
Then they sent me to New York and they sent me to Frederick Foucaille to have my hair made blonde.
And they sent me to have my teeth made white.
And then they sent me back and then they had me back there within like
another two weeks.
That's, that's, that is wild. That is absolutely wild.
But it does fit to the overall narrative.
I can just imagine how terrifying that would be. Tammy,
I DM'd you and asked you if you wanted to come up,
you've been on this roller coaster of an Epstein journey with me. Very emotional. Tammy, go ahead if you have any questions for Juliet.
Hi, Juliet. I'm just listening to you, and I want you to know that I'm praying for you,
and I'm praying for your son, and I'm very emotional because this I wasn't trafficked, but I was raped, molested by a preacher.
So I know that pain.
And I wanted in my situation, I couldn't find my voice to tell somebody.
But I told my friend and I knew that she had such a good relationship with her mom that she would.
And I knew this in my heart that she would tell her mom what was going on.
And it would get me out of that situation.
I'm wondering, where did you find your courage to break away, to get away, to get away from this these horrible horrible people
thank you tammy firstly i want to say i'm so sorry that you were raped by a preacher you know also like by a person in position of power a person who you trusted i'm really sorry that happened
um you know i guess over time i just started i wouldn't like bring goals to him and I started putting on weight and it started breaking me, to be honest, just being around these people, it broke me.
And, you know, I also came back to Cape Town, I started actually doing drugs, to be honest, you know, I don't like talking about that.
But, yeah, I started doing cocaine and they took me back there and, you know, obviously I wouldn't be doing the drugs there, but I was just like, I was a mess after what they did to me.
And I just wouldn't do what he wanted.
And then I think also what started happening is they started closing in on him,
you know, because in 2004, the last time I was taken there,
he was furious because they'd made an article about him in the Vanity Fair.
You know, Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer were speaking out against him,
and he was the kind of person who never seemed nervous or worried about anything.
He was so confident.
But this is the time when he started looking really nervous,
and I think it was just hard for him to fly people around anymore then,
and I'd just become a broken mess.
And, yeah, I think they were closing in on him, basically.
And, you know, also he always said that girls after 22,
they weren't attractive, that girls were ugly after the age 22.
So, you know, I just guess I got away.
I also developed severe bulimia, to be honest. I mean, I couldn't
keep a meal down for nine years after that. I had such bad bulimia. I used to vomit after
every meal I ate after that. But I guess I just became gross and not acceptable for him,
and that's how I got away, because it was the easiest way, you know.
I kind of experienced the same thing you did.
After this happened to me, I gained so much.
I mean, I'm five foot tall and I weighed 180 pounds.
I was huge.
And I was just so, I couldn't deal with it.
And then finally, when I was 18 years old, I went to therapy and I was in therapy for a long time.
I had a little old Christian lady who actually helped me get my faith back too, because I
had lost my faith because this was my preacher.
And I got married young and I had my daughter two weeks before my 20th birthday.
I got married young and I had my daughter when I,
two weeks before my 20th birthday.
And I say all the time that she,
she saved my life too,
because God gave me,
blessed me with my little girl.
And I was,
he was not going to break me.
I was going to fight and I was going to live for her.
So I just want to thank you for sharing and God bless you and your little
boy.
Thank you so much,
Tammy.
And, and you know, you're quite right.
I've also had a lot of amazing people help me after this.
Like I had an amazing boyfriend who helped pay for me to see therapists.
My brother eventually started making money from his business
and he paid for me to see therapists.
So, you know, I've had a lot of help along the way from amazing people.
And, you know, that's why I want to speak out because, you know,
at first when all this happened, I just wanted to stay away from everything. It's been too much.
But then I suddenly realized that a lot of victims have been killed. You know, these people are very
evil. And I realized I have to speak for the victims who can't speak, the ones who are dead,
the ones who are too traumatized. And thank you for being so strong and speaking, Tammy,
because this is what it's about. It's us all speaking it's a chain reaction because a lot of
people get abused by people and this is not right anyway sorry let me just i'm sending lots of
laughter around thank you again so much everyone for being here thank you um thank you, Tammy. Let's go ahead, Stormy.
I just wanted to remind people as I'm scrolling through some of the questions put this is this is a piece of the puzzle and she's being very open with us.
But she nor anyone on this panel has the full picture.
So some of the questions that are being asked are not the answers won't be here for you.
We're discussing her experience and what she's been through.
And I mean, she is so brave for talking to us.
And she's absolutely right when she says this,
you know, this is how other victims come forward and speak
and you get more pieces of the puzzle.
So some of the questions that are being asked,
this isn't the place for that.
But this is the internet.
So people are going to...
Exactly.
And you know what I figured out about Julia is is she's got thick skin oh god she aren't she isn't she amazing like come on people like
you can this is a somebody who has been through so much and is just so bravely speaking out
and and kind and you're really amazing julia and thank you so much for speaking with any of us
today. We're really blessed to be able to hear from you and learn from what you've been through.
Thank you so much, Stormy, and thank you for being kind and also standing up for me and other people
who, if I speak out, they get bashed, and we're not victims, we're survivors, actually,
because guess what? We're here, and we're standing and we're survivors actually because guess what we're here and we're standing and we're speaking and just because they hurt us doesn't mean that we need to
other people need to hurt us still you know we're going to stand here together and try and make a
difference but um you know anyone else can ask any other questions but what i really would like
to speak about is jp morgan the blue Butterflies and Disney Princesses when we're ready.
Yeah, we'll get through the rest of the hands.
And I do want to pivot to what's going on with the banks and these funds, because that's a huge piece of something that is still ongoing, even past Jeffrey Epstein's death.
and it has to do with a little bit in some regard with Darren Indyke and Khan,
who are his two main attorneys and operators for the last two decades,
two and a half decades actually, and currently still are.
Okay, so quickly.
Sorry, do you just cut in quick, quick?
Sorry.
When they did the whole JP Morgan case,
they found one payment from Epstein to my bank account for $500 because he sent me money to get a visa and stuff and get a taxi.
But you see, basically, the lawyers opened up those accounts so that the lawyers will be able to see all of the transactions, who was getting paid what.
they picked up this on the when that when I got the settlement from JP Morgan they sent a screenshot
of this you know transaction where he'd sent me five hundred dollars one time and he gave me five
hundred dollars another time and that was it and three hundred dollars another time was only three
times he ever gave me money you know um to like get taxis or you know just so people know like my
financial transaction side and also just I, you know, how the lawyers obviously open things up because they found this transaction where he'd sent money to me for $500 in 2003 or whenever it was.
You know, and that's what we want to see.
And I don't know why they're not exposing it.
Well, actually, well, it's actually quite obvious why they're not exposing it.
They don't want everyone seeing the names on these financial transactions because it's not about the list.
We've already seen the list, the flight logs, and we know they're all involved with Hollywood
and everything, but we want to look at these financial transactions. Sorry to cut in.
Yeah, they've always followed the money, right? And that's something that they have a hard time um if they have if they
have tried to clean those traces it leaves a gap in the financial system right mathematically um
they can't really cover it up too much and the fact that these institutions which knowingly at
least in some regard according to their settlements, allowed these transactions,
facilitated these crimes, and haven't been held criminally liable as a problem. Because for many who don't know, sex trafficking, and especially sex trafficking of minors,
but coerced sex trafficking, which is why I wanted to pin down certain details of your account.
to pin down certain details of your account.
Coercion, where you are isolated
and there is a fear or intimidation factor
to your sex trafficking,
that in the United States at least,
means that those crimes do not have a expiration date.
There's no statute of limitation on coerced sex trafficking.
There is no statute of limitations
on sex trafficking of a minor.
And so those crimes are just as prosecutable today as they were 10 years ago or 20 years ago,
which is a major thing. And also, why was there $1 billion worth of human trafficking transactions between Epstein and JP Morgan's accounts? Like I said earlier, I mean,
they paid $290 million to the victims.
You know, these banks don't pay money like that unless they're guilty.
But the thing is, it would be very interesting
to see what transactions were actually happening there.
Because also, you know, J.P. Morgan,
Jess Staley, who worked for him,
was very good friends with Epstein.
They also used, like, code words,
like Disney princess words,
like Snow White, Beauty and the Beast.
It's very creepy.
You know, and also Virginia Gaffer died on Alice Day. It's like Alice in Wonderland,
you know, like down the rabbit hole we go. She died on Alice Day, which is actually,
in fact, Pedo Day, the 25th of April. But when you look into all of this, it's very
creepy and there's a lot more going on here with these people. And, you know, hopefully
together we can all find more
more answers sorry to cut in well and the more it's important no it is important and the more
that we talk about it the more that we speak out and the more that victims like yourself show
courage uh it has a a ripple effect right uh you know i was so afraid that the Epstein story would get buried in the news feed that I pretty much said to hell with business as usual and we'll just take the hits.
And we just we've been talking about this every day ever since in spaces, at least.
And the more people who join the conversation, not just my conversation, your own conversations.
Right. The more people who talk about this, it builds up public pressure and increases the likelihood of justice, even if it's just a little bit.
And so, again, I think that we right now we have an opportunity that we probably haven't had since he was, you know, in jail when this was mainstream news before.
The fact that, you know, the Epstein documentary is trending on Netflix, the fact that it has been
in the legacy media, that Trump's talking about it, that X is talking about it, that survivors
like yourself are coming forward shows that there's a momentum and we need to use that
momentum to demand accountability for the people who facilitated the trafficking in
the financial networks.
And we're going to get a bit more into that in just a second.
I want to quickly go through the hands.
Then we'll finish with what you know about the financial networks, JP Morgan, et cetera.
And then I think we'll wrap it up.
Go ahead, Sally, and then Famous.
All right, I'll make my questions quick.
Do you think that they lied about the victims,
the anonymous victims, right?
There's these people have not come forward
to deplete the funds and launder it.
And then my second question is,
do you think that they examine you
to see if there have been any medical experiments
done to you while
you were in New Mexico? Those are excellent questions. So firstly, funds laundered. For a
start, apparently the lawyers got like over 30% of the money that was paid through for the victims.
And I suppose it very likely likely you're very right.
It could have been laundered.
I mean, I don't know exactly how it all happened with the payouts.
You know, I do know I was given a million dollars,
which I'm very grateful for.
But I just wonder where the other victims are,
because when there's a payout of $290 million,
you'd expect there to be more victims speaking out.
You know, and um sorry the
other question i've forgotten i'm so sorry what was the last question it'll come back to me sorry
you're fine and so my my second question is do you think that they examined you right you said
you're the only one that was examined do you think that was to see if they'd done any medical
experiments on you while you were in new mexico the zero zero you know what I never actually told the lawyers any of that stuff that
happened to me because I didn't trust them and I was too scared to speak about it it took me a long
time to speak about it to be honest you know it's something that I know very much happened but you
know you know how the world changes and like one time, like if you spoke about something like this 10 years ago, you would have been labeled as a nut job. And I mean, still people think it's crazy. But I didn't tell the lawyers about that side of things. And when I was medically examined, I just told them I had a dream, which I did have a dream with like a reptile chasing me. You know, I did have weird dreams before that, in fact.
I did have weird dreams before that, in fact.
So I told them about my dreams, but I didn't tell them about the reality
because I didn't feel like it was their business.
And I knew that, you know, they would try to label me as a nut job.
So I just kept quiet on that, you know, because it's like,
I'm not going to tell people I don't trust.
But then you see what happened is eventually I did an interview
with Richard Willett from Iconic, who's an amazing guy. tell people I don't trust. But then you see what happened is eventually I did an interview with
Richard Willard from Iconic, who's an amazing guy. And you see, I'd written a book by that time,
which I need to still finish, called The Dragon, the Apple and the Butterfly. And because he asked
me why was it called that, I couldn't lie. You know, I don't lie. So I had to explain that I
saw Epstein shapeshift then, which I know a lot of people don't like that. And everyone, it just credits everything I've said, apparently.
Well, this is what I said, what I saw.
And, you know, other people have also seen sort of alien creatures.
Like, you know, even if you look at the school in Zimbabwe,
there's 62 witnesses.
Just look it up online.
You know, that's another thing I want to reinforce,
is that people stop watching movies, do more research.
Look this all up online
do you think do you think that that trauma could like so i read your accounting of what occurred
on the island where you had disassociated while that was happening right and i have thoroughly
watched and listened to and read other victims accounts of disassociating while they had an experience with Jeffrey Epstein.
Do you think that the trauma of that disassociation could make me possibly have you forming these ideas as a result?
No, absolutely not. I saw what I saw.
You know, there are many people who've had sort of alien encounters.
So people can't go and label me as crazy just because I saw a UFO,
New Mexico.
No, I'm not saying.
I know you're not, but I'm just speaking to the viewers.
And also, like, isn't there a story that there's like an alien ship
heading here?
You know, what happened to the drones that were circling all over America that just suddenly vanished?
Well, they were.
Yeah, what were they?
I think I think that, well, we think that they were likely testing drone tech that's emerging right now, involving some of the companies that are surrounding Donald Trump in the White House
or even involved with Jeffrey Epstein through his venture capital firms.
That's another rabbit hole.
I think we should pin that.
Yeah, but they didn't explain it to everyone.
They never explained it to everyone.
You know, there have been many people who've had sort of weird alien encounters,
and I saw the UFO there.
This weird stuff happened to me, and that's that.
I'm sorry.
No, that's fine. I wish it didn't happen to me, but it did.
Yes, ma'am. Um,
let's continue to go through the hands and then we will finish with the
financial part. Let's go to sincere Doge and then Miss Lou.
Hey, Julie, I want to thank you for giving us your time today. Um,
I, I mean, I commend you on the strength that it takes to be up here and talk to everybody.
But if we were, so I wrote down what I wanted to ask you.
What part of your story do you feel the world still hasn't truly heard or understood?
And what would justice look like to you today?
What would justice look like to you today?
Justice for me would be if every child in this world was given food and people weren't hurt anymore.
That would be justice.
Just a happy world where people are looked after properly,
where people aren't being screwed by taxes and bullshit governments.
Sorry, now I got lost on the first question so the first one is what part of your story do
you feel the world still hasn't truly heard well i mean there's so much of it like i was trying to
speak earlier about like the bloodlines you know the apple the garden of eden you know steve jobs
who created apple his daughter is called eve you know in. In 1666, notice the 666, an apple fell on Isaac Newton's head.
And then the first Apple MacBook was sold for $666.66.
So it's like the apple is the downfall of man.
It's much like the Garden of Eden.
When Eve reaches for the apple from the snake, she actually bred with with the snake so we're not allowed to talk about this okay next time
sorry d hey julie before i go i'm just i'm just trying to keep it i'm just trying to keep listen
i'm not trying to censor you but for the sake of not having them use like use these things to
discredit her story is why i'm trying to moderate this against me they must
just go and look it up online come on do your research you know i understand it's all online
but um i don't know about i don't i don't know i don't know what your experience so i have had
people coming into my spaces as i've tried to talk about Epstein over the last month. And they have brought all kinds of crazy shit into it
that had nothing to do with what we were talking about
in an effort to deflect, distract, and discredit
the work that we were doing.
And so I just don't want to give them
any ammunition unnecessarily.
Of course, you're a survivor.
You have the right to speak about,
and I said this to you in the DMs,
you have the right to talk about
whatever the hell you want. i'm just you know i'm just showing you i'm just
illustrating the tactics that are being used to try to diminish your voice that is all um i want
to and i think that we should you know what i'm going to tell reptile i want to do a late nights
or a later uh a space where we can explore all of that because I want to hear
what you have to say about it so let's go to Miss Lou and then we'll go to famous and then we will
finish with the JP Morgan in the banking angle of this and of course you know nobody's making
any accusations here I am not implying anybody is guilty or any institutions are guilty we are
simply allowing her to express her personal experience.
And being mentioned does not imply guilt.
Go ahead, Miss Lou, and then we'll go to Famous.
Juliet, your statement that you are not a victim and you are a survivor spells your courage immensely.
And I just want to say to you, I'm not a mother.
I was never fortunate.
But as a mother, your little boy is so fortunate to have a mother like you. Now, the thing that
I wanted to touch upon, and you don't have to go in details or even talk about it, but I was very
curious when you brought up about scientists being on the properties. Now, were the scientists
in a lot of different properties that you happened to be on? And did you get to see any of their
activity, but you obviously noticed them? And then, of course, you talked about possibly being
examined. But I'm just curious because scientists being around is a big tie-in to Epstein and a lot
of the people that, or I should say a lot, but certainly some of the key people that are tagged
with him. And I'll just state Bill Gates being one of them, though I'm not stating that as fact.
I'm just saying that that's alleged.
Anything that you have to say on that any further?
Thank you so much, Ms. Liu.
I really appreciate your kind words as being a mom.
Thank you so, so much.
And you're a mom to all of us.
You're a mom to me, being so kind.
You know, as far as, like, the scientists went,
I met them only in New Mexico and on the island.
And I'd meet them like they'd be having meetings at the Epstein,
but I'd never see where they were staying,
much like when I saw Michael Bay there.
Like, I'd see them in the kitchen or sitting with Epstein having meetings,
but then I'd never see them again, which shows that there is very likely something underground there.
Because also, like even that island, it was very basic for like a billionaire.
It was just like a room with a TV.
It wasn't like anything fancy.
You know, you'd expect a billionaire to have like a beautiful castle sort of house on an island.
It was very basic. so there was very likely
something underneath there. And then also you know as far as the transhumanism, eugenics,
Bill Gates, a girl I know who worked with Epstein told me that Bill Gates used to go there every
week and have tea with him. You've got Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson.
Then you've got Epstein looking like the man on the dollar bill.
It's like, you know, all the bills.
It's weird.
And, you know, they were obviously up to something far more sinister.
And, you know, I guess we just, like I said before,
everyone must do their research on all of this
because they've obviously covered something up.
They opened the case up as human trafficking. But I didn't see any girls getting traffic to other men.
And, you know, they opened it up like that because apparently Virginia Gaffer, God bless her soul, and Sarah Ransom were apparently both made to have sex with Alan Dershowitz.
But there were no cases there, you know, and Virginia Gaffer said she was mistaken.
Can you elaborate on your relationship with Virginia since she's no longer with us? cases there you know and virginia gaffer said she was mistaken and can you you know can you
elaborate on your relationship with virginia since she's no longer with us if you whatever
you feel comfortable with that was something that somebody had asked me earlier and i just
not just brought her up and i just remembered and i want to do it while we still have you
thinking about her but um you know i got in touch with her through the lawyers because we were being
represented by the same law firm.
So we had like a group called the Survivor Sisters where myself and like Virginia and a couple of other victims were on the group.
And then Virginia Gaffer and I did a few like video calls together, you know, like a face chat.
And then she, you know, I think things got a lot for her.
And then she, you know, I think things got a lot for her.
She was getting inundated and she just said that, you know,
she's changing her phone number and I can only email her through her
husband's email address.
So I used to still email her through her husband's email address and I got a
few replies and then suddenly she just went quiet.
Oh, that's sad. That is so sad and and um was there any you know she did she indicate to you at all
because you said that there you know there's been efforts in the last week even just to try to
kind of coerce you into being silent did she indicate to you at all in the last like two years, um, that there was a, a efforts to silence her or intimidate her,
um, at some kind of, at some level? No, she didn't tell me anything. I'm like that,
you know, unfortunately we, we went close enough like that. And, and I mean, we were close as
friends. We used to speak, you know, um, over the phone. But then she suddenly, you know, went quiet and I respected her privacy.
I just understood that, you know, she was going through a lot,
being so vocal and, you know.
Yes, ma'am.
Open the jumbo, Sean.
And, you know, I really don't think, like,
whatever happened to her death, it freaks me out so badly.
You know, because I was also really worried about her long before, because I couldn't get hold of her.
And I was messaging her.
And then, sorry, it just makes me so upset, all of a sudden.
Suddenly there was an apparent bus accident.
And she was supposed to have that woman, that 71-year-old woman, who was supposed to be looking after her.
And it's weird for a woman of 42 or 41 to have a 70-year-old woman who was supposed to be looking after her. And it's weird, like, for a woman of, like, 42 or 41 to have a 70-year-old as a carer.
But where was the carer when she was found dead, you know?
And also, they haven't even disclosed what even happened, you know?
And there was the apparent bus accident before,
and then she was sort of crying out for help on Instagram.
You know, there were those posts that she put up, and then, bam, she was dead.
It's just like, sorry. Sorry. Let me just have a break sorry sorry you're good yeah take it take a moment
up in the jumbotron you guys i just did i just put out a post a thread outlining juliet's experience
um and it's not as in-depth it's short form replies but i just did a thread um and it's not as in-depth, it's short form replies, but I just did a thread and there's a picture of her actually on Epstein's
Island. It's at the top, up in the Jumbotron.
If you guys want to take a look at that and share it out,
make sure that her story is heard.
And there is citations proving everything that she says is true as the bottom
of the thread. She is a confirmed Epstein survivor.
She was compensated through the Victims Compensation Fund
that has a rigorous threshold to meet to prove that she was.
And of course, you know, she was smart and documented everything,
kept pictures, kept as much information as possible
about her horrid experience.
And the more that these stories these stories are shared the more public
pressure builds up for accountability and that's what we need right now um i we're going to give
her a second i'm going to go to clinton clinton do you have any thoughts what do you think sir
well first of all diligent i want to say thank you for hosting this space
uh and for keeping this conversation going i think it's really important that you've made sure that it's nonpartisan.
I think it's great that you have focused all of the emphasis on the legality and sort of
the morality of everything that has unfolded.
So I want to say thank you for that.
I also have a question for your guest, Juliet. And Juliet, I just, if you're not able to answer
the question, that's fine. I just, you touched on a little bit of this and for the record,
Bill Gates, whoever mentioned,
he's not a scientist.
Bill Gates is a computer programmer,
and that's not the same thing as a scientist
for anyone out there that's wondering.
But Juliette, the question I have for you is around 2012,
Jeffrey Epstein hosted a conference,
which is what a previous speaker, I think, was referencing.
The conference was called Confronting Gravity.
And it had literally the world's most renowned physicists.
I'm not talking about computer programmers, but actual physicists that attended this conference.
And I'm just curious if you have any information as to what Jeffrey Epstein's fascination was around gravity?
Why did he have this event?
Who paid to bring these physicists to his island?
That's a huge expense.
And the reason I'm asking this is because, you know,
he's supposedly this financier, or at least that's the public story.
So why is a financier hosting and funding a Gravity conference?
I'm wondering if you could provide some information for us.
And if you can't, you know, that's fine.
It's just it's not often I have an opportunity to ask someone that's, you know, unfortunately been in the position that you've been in.
often I have an opportunity to ask someone that's, you know,
unfortunately been in the position that you've been in.
Thank you so much for the question.
Sorry, I didn't get your name, but thank you so much.
It's Clinton DeVoe.
Thank you, Clinton.
Sorry, I was trying to check, but I think I wouldn't say who was talking.
Thank you, Clinton.
Well, you know, I don't know a huge amount about the whole scientific side of things,
but I do know that I met the scientists there and that, you know, I met Michael Bay and they were
clearly up to something, you know. I was also told that Oprah apparently worked with Epstein and he
owned her network, which was called King's Network, is what I was told.
You know, he also apparently owned L'Oreal, which is also like laboratories,
I suppose, at the end of the day, makeup and all that.
You know, apparently Oprah was also friends with John of God,
who had baby farms, which would tie into if they were taking our eggs.
But as far as gravity goes, unfortunately, I don't know a lot more about that but you know
I'm a very good question
and I definitely would, I think everyone must do more research
into it because you know
I know that he did fund Harvard
you know he was funding a lot of scientists
you know you can see it online
he did have a
a very interesting
Harvard associated charity You can see it on the line. He did have a very interesting Harvard-associated charity.
And there was a lot of – there were millions and millions of dollars
funneled through that thing in a very weird way.
And, you know, we do – I've been doing these daily spaces
where we do these deep dives.
We do research spaces each evening, pretty much.
And we pick a thing.
So we looked at his client list yesterday.
We've looked at his residences.
We've looked at certain angles, his accountants, his lawyer.
And I want to really look at the NGO aspect of it.
There's some very suspicious payments made by individuals.
Bill Gates is one of them. Like he has made significant financial contributions to Jeffrey Epstein's scientific foundations that, you know, for why, you know, it correlates with what clinton was asking you know if you guys
didn't know uh they had an event a scientific event at jeffrey epstein's little saint james
island that stephen hawkins was at if you don't know who stephen hawkin is he is the uh he was
the quadriplegic the most pre-eminent physicist of uh this of the past century since Albert Einstein, in fact.
Correct. Correct. Yeah. So he is.
And Niklar Tesla.
Yeah. Yeah. And so he is he is a massive influence in the science world.
And for them to have this event at Little St. James, of all places, which, you know, it could have been all for show and it could have been for leverage.
You know, if we, you know, there's a, we concluded last night, there's a 70% probability based on primary evidence that this was a honeypot blackmail operation. I imagine that they try to catch as many people in that trap from diverse sectors as possible to have leverage over various markets and private sector industries.
Can I just jump in there if that's all right, Diligent? I got a follow-up question.
If you can let me finish, though.
they can have as much leverage and influence over these private sector industries as possible
regardless of the nature of them technology artificial intelligence surveillance um
finance managers financiers banks uh uh science yeah physicists right like if they want to touch
on every aspect of it and let me just say
it ties together with where the world's going with artificial intelligence and quantum computing i'm
not talking about conspiracy here okay this is a fact palantir has a quantum computing research
facility in australia right now of places, I found in my research.
This isn't conjecture.
This isn't conspiracy theory.
These are verifiable facts.
He did host all of these physicists on his island.
It did look like a honeypot operation. There were unidentified females on the flights to his island when this event took place.
What was going on there? it was a mass surveillance operation there was cameras in every room and hallway in the in
the buildings in the residences all of them you just heard you just heard juliette tell you that
the security officer for the new york residence said that was in it. He showed her a room full of
screens that had cameras all throughout the residence. And he said that he had a separate
room that was identical in his own residence off site. Who was that guy? Why was he doing that?
Why would he have an off-site location collecting surveillance
of what was obviously a honeypot operation? We need to know who this guy is. Was that house
raided? Where is this guy? How come he hasn't been subpoenaed? Why isn't he listed in the
civil cases? Why hasn't he been indicted for his role in sex trafficking i have so many
questions that we don't have answers to but we're gonna get them um real quick because katie is also
on the other side of the pond and i want to make sure that she has an opportunity shadow it looks
like you might be glitched i'll drop you from co-hosting me back up um go ahead katie real
quick jump in here because we are wrapping up oh Oh, okay. Well, thank you so much.
And thank you for continuously doing these spaces.
And I'm so sorry that I've missed it.
I will go back on the repeat and listen to the recording.
If Juliet Bryant is in here, I'm so sorry for what you went through.
Um, I'm so sorry for what you went through from the bottom of my heart.
I'm so sorry for what you went through.
From the bottom of my heart.
Unfortunately, I share a similar story of being trafficked and, uh, such.
Spell racer.
Okay.
Um, sorry.
Sorry, that's my son.
Oh my God.
Um, okay.
Block your ears.
He's your protector, your angel.
He's what?
I know, I love him.
And I'm so sorry that you've been through pain too, Katie.
Oh, I tell you.
Yeah, W-A-I-S-S-E-L.
He's asking how to spell our last name.
Oh, I love him so much.
He's only seven.
Right, let me go into the other room.
This is absolute atrocity, both in the US and the UK,
absolute atrocity, both in the US and the UK, but speaks volumes that specific people have not
been held to account, and that victims have not got any justice whatsoever. If anything,
it is an absolute turd rubbed in the face that Donald Trump is over here in Scotland meeting with Keir Starmer,
our prime minister, who's right-hand man and the British ambassador to the United States,
also once known as the Prince of Darkness, Lord Peter, oh gosh, I must, OK, I can't ever remember his last name, but I will tell you.
But who is also very much involved with Palantir.
The whole thing is tremendously frightening.
Tremendously frightening.
But victims and however one wishes to identify whether it's a survivor or a victim, that's okay.
But justice needs to be served.
Ghislaine Maxwell is not in jail for trafficking to nobody.
You know what I'm saying?
And if anything, it really would not surprise me if she put herself in there just for her own safety.
But that's not right. That's not okay.
We the people demand justice.
All of this shtick has to stop it has to stop i and there has to be
a way for it to stop because there are ways in which money talks and um juliette i'm sure and
i'm so sorry that i've missed everything that you have said but i really will listen to it on the
on the recording and please connect with me and i will do everything in my bones to help you in any which way shape or form because these people
need to be they it's not even they need to be held to account it's like that's the law so nobody is
above the law whether you're in the UK or the US, I'm sick to death of it, much like Diligen and all of
us, this stops now, I'm a mum to a young son, I would never wish even a fraction of what happened
to myself or other victims out there to happen to anybody, let alone feeling like your tongue
has been cut from your mouth, no matter where you turn, you hit a brick wall,
and it is debilitating.
Debilitating!
How can one be expected to get on with their life
when every which way, shape, or form they turn?
There is nowhere to turn because it's still controlled.
And it's not fair and it's not right.
We have the right to just freedom and to protect
our kids and set that precedent so thanks for letting me share that diligent and uh juliet
i appreciate you being up here so much thank you so much katie thank you for being amazing and
speaking out my heart heart hurts, though.
It does. And I want to cry.
And that's okay. But, like, my
heart hurts because
these idiots, these horrible,
horrible Jurassic dinosaurs are still
walking around. Do you know what I mean?
As if nothing's happened.
That's not okay.
But people are slowly but surely waking up to the truth.
You know, the governments are run by very evil, corrupt people.
That's a fact.
That is a fact.
There are more of us than there are of them,
and that's what we must never forget.
No, always.
We need to act.
We need to act before they, using drones,
like drone technology and ai
and weaponized surveillance systems we need to act before they have the power to be our numbers
which we are on the verge of right now i am trying to like raise the alarm bell that these pedophile
elites that have acted with an impunity against our children and us are now on
the verge of having a power that we can't stop. They're really close. They're super close. I'm
not speculating here. This is a fact that they are on the verge of having a power that we cannot
compete with. And we are so close to it right now. And the Epstein story is in the heart of it.
It shows what they're capable of.
It shows how they,
what they think about you.
It shows the coverup,
the,
the,
the manipulation,
the lies in the media,
all of it,
the coercion,
the,
the,
just every aspect of it highlights why they can't be trusted with that kind of
power.
And they're having it's happening.
We have to do something.
I don't know what that is, but we cannot allow this to go.
Diligent, can I just say that just quite quickly?
It's all, you know, and I understand what you're saying.
And just for the record, I love what Diligent continues to do to be the voice of so many people that need voices to help us speak up.
But this is Jurassic.
This is archaic.
And this really is like brittle bones.
The real consensus is there are pedophiles and sex traffickers out there that should be jailed.
That's that.
Forget AI.
Forget technology. Forget AI, forget technology,
forget all of this other stuff for just one second.
There are pedophiles and sex traffickers out there
that are preying on minors and vulnerable people
that are getting away with that.
That's just the bare bones of it.
And that's what really needs to stop.
There's no point in having a law if no one's
there to enforce it either and my point about my point about the ai and the drones and shit which
are relevant is that right now okay we have the the force and the power to potentially stop them from continuing to do it in two years they can do this shit and
say yeah we we did epstein yeah we raped your kids yeah we lied to you yeah we hit it and there's
nothing you can do about it okay that's why that piece is important right now you have a voice
right now you have an option in two or three years two or three years, we're not going to.
We're not going to be able to stop them.
They could just cut off X.
They could cut us off.
Because, you know, I've been cut off many platforms many times.
You know, my account's been taken away here many times.
TikTok won't allow any of my videos.
But I'll try to put up there.
And, you know, what I want to say about the government
is that, you know, the government is meant to serve us.
We're not meant to serve them.
And currently we are serving them.
You get rich slaves, you get poor slaves.
A lot of us, we're slaves to the system.
You know, it's not meant to be this way.
The government's meant to serve the people.
You know, they're not meant to be trotting around
with crowns on their heads and all the security. That's not how it's supposed
to be. That's not
how royalty is supposed to operate.
You know, the world's been captured by very
very evil people
and that's why, you know, so many people
are starving, so many people are struggling.
You know, they get COVID and
look how, like, I'm sure everyone
has been affected from that. Families,
people dying, people losing their businesses.
You guys get it, right?
Yeah, we all lived it, and it was a horrible experience.
It's what began my journey of waking up was COVID.
And then, like, when they started to tell kids that they could change their sex is when I really woke up.
And I was like, oh, okay.
Obviously, I can't ignore their agenda yeah um and angelina jolie megan fox charlie's to run all these beautiful
kids who are trans transsexuals right and i'm sorry i i understand it's like something that's
unusual like back in the 90s 80s like know, we didn't see stuff like that.
Like it was something that's unusual.
But you don't go and operate on a child and do stuff like that.
It's bullshit.
If someone's gay, fine.
You don't go and fuck around with their body.
I'm sorry.
And then get money.
The hospitals end up making a lot of money.
The pharmacies, you know.
Pharmacy, take away the P, it's pharmacy.
If you take away the P and then H and add an effort, it's pharmacy.
Let food be thy medicine.
You don't get to put on fucking pills.
Sorry to swear.
It makes me so angry when people are like cut up unnecessarily.
Also plastic surgery.
Beauty, we're all going to age, guys.
Come on.
Like, you know, if someone doesn't love you because you're getting old,
then fuck them.
Sorry.
Can I interject? No, fuck them. Can can i just interject a very very quick sentiment also is that with covid
led to each and every one of us being vulnerable including children um households being vulnerable
financially also being vulnerable and what do people do when they are vulnerable? They cling to straws,
they try their best, and so on and so forth. And so when a nation or a world is put in such a
vulnerable position, in fear that they can't make payments, and so on and so forth, etc, etc,
it leads for people in positions of power to take advantage of them also. Hey, here's a great
opportunity. Hey, here's a dangled carrot. Come and be here and do this and do that. And again,
at least a child trafficking and sexual abuse and assault. And it's just absolutely freaking
terrible. And I don't stand for it whatsoever. All right. We're going to go for another 25 minutes.
Is that okay with you, Juliette?
Yeah, that's fine, Dee.
And you know what?
As far as financial stuff,
I actually wanted to bring up this one financial thing,
if that's okay.
Absolutely.
Because I had a few lawyers trying to help in the beginning.
I'm not going to name any names here.
But when I was given my first contract,
like basically suing Epstein in the
estate they were asking for a hundred million dollars on my behalf they wanted a hundred
million dollars for one thing fifty million dollars for I can't remember all the words of it
you know um you know and then ten million dollars for something else they were basically asking for
160 million dollars on my behalf but then what what happened is they eventually said that, no, I can't go ahead.
You know, and it gave me a shock to see these figures.
I was like, oh, my God, you know, coming from Africa, I was like, it gave me a fright.
But anyway, they told me that, no, we can't go ahead with a lawsuit
because of the statute of limitations.
And they said we could probably go ahead
but they're probably going to throw it out so they basically veered me off going ahead with the
lawsuit and i even said to them i said i don't care about the money i want justice you know i
don't care if i get no money out of here i don't care if they throw it out i want to go ahead
but they like veered me off from going ahead with the lawsuit and i probably should have
but you know unfortunately like being a young girl from Africa well I'm not that young anymore you know but I'm
not like I'm educated on the law you know like a lot of us aren't we don't understand how all of
this works so you know they they insisted that I go ahead with the compensation fund you know the
Epstein compensation fund so that's like a big financial weird thing that
happened along the way i've still got the documents to prove it if anyone wants to second
guess me on it um hold on katie katie katie hold on hold on hold on please please uh about that um
i want to have a space just about the financials and given your your knowledge of it i think that i'm going to try to get you in
there for our late night and we use the ai i don't know how you feel about that but i can upload
documents directly into it instead of having it look things up and it can kind of help us navigate
it i don't mind the ai you know i mean grok grok's a bit of a liar, but Grok's sort of learning, right?
It is learning.
And I'm a good coach.
I have a truth-seeking framework that makes it look at court documents.
You know how I said my conversations are evidence-based,
so everything we talk about has to be proven.
I won't even let speakers, right, which is why I'm struggling right during this conversation. But I haven't even been let speakers like throw something out there in the conversation unless they can back it up with something that can be proven in court, right? Just to make sure that our conversations stay pure, and that the information stream stays pure, and that people can verify it if they want
to. And so that's how I've been doing it. So if you want to... But of course, because that's
everything. You know, that's another thing on X. Like people see things and they share it. People
need to research things and make sure it's true before they research it. I mean, before they share
it, you know, because you don't want to be part of like a big media storm of bullshit.
You know, people need to check things out.
If you see something and you're like, oh, is this happening?
You need to actually go look up on the news, look up for a few more posts.
Like, check that it's verified.
You know what I mean?
Juliette, just quickly, I want to make sure that you're OK.
And that's a big question.
But I know that this is probably a heavy space for you, as i'm sure if anybody listening or part of the speaker panel you know
it's it's not it's not thank you katie that's so kind of you want to make sure you know i've
obviously been through a lot with everything but i'm you know getting stronger every day you know um when you're incredibly resilient
you're you are incredibly resilient well I've had amazing people like you Dee and like other people
who've been there who are cool and like kind who've understood and also that's about sharing
knowledge together like you know we've all seen different parts of the puzzle like you know I
thought Epstein was taking my eggs from everything that happened. And now there's another victim who says that she thinks they were taking
her eggs too. You know, apparently there's another girl who was saying that who's dead now.
You know, there are a lot of victims who've been found dead. And that's why we're speaking out.
That's why we're all here today. We're speaking out for all the, not just the Epstein victims,
but all the victims of all trafficking, all the victims of this evil, you know, system that's been going on.
Because, you know, the Clintons have got a body count of 56.
You know, Kevin Spacey, there were lawsuits against him and three of his accusers were found dead within a year.
Did you meet Kevin Spacey in Africa when you were there?
Yeah, him and Clinton.
So both of these men that I met with epstein both have their body counts it seems you
know it appears so um you know sorry i want to make sure you're okay and it's a lot and just
to digest yeah thank you chastity no i get it um i think so sometimes i'm not though because it catches up with you and it's not okay because
it's just so unjust and also I know a lot about the crisis PR people that were were involved maybe
with Epstein and the Clintons and Ghislaine Maxwell and all of this stuff and um it is it is very disturbing um and it's not okay so I can be okay on a space but
when the space is ended and I digest everything it's not okay and it sits with you so just know
my inbox is open you know I'm here if you need and everyone's here for you as well don't forget
you know there are a lot of people who care and I'm sorry for any trauma you've been through as well. You know, I mean, I'm sure just about
every person on our group's been through trauma. Like that's life. It's not easy, right? We all
go through hard times. And that's why we stand together and we speak about it. And we make a
change, you know, because by speaking together, it makes us all stronger. And like I said before,
there are more of us than there are of them, because most people are very kind. And you're very kind.
Thank you so much, Katie. Yes, ma'am. Let me go through some of these hands while we have time.
Noxie, did you have any questions or statements? I have a team of researchers, Noxie, Tyler,
Tim, who's down there. They've been helping me look things up,
find victims, find information, make me aware of things involving the case that I didn't know about.
For instance, Palantir, you know, Peter Thiel, the New Mexico ranch. There's so many angles to
this. It's such a big, big, this is definitely the largest cover-up in scandal crime uh in u.s history
by far this blows jfk out of the water this is it's ongoing and it's been happening for decades
and um is deeply entrenched in some of the most horrendous and horrific acts you can think of
and we have to expose it noxie go ahead hey thanks diligent and julia i just want to say thank you so much for your voice i appreciate
this so much you are incredibly brave and i have seen you know the way that the internet is people
can be so hateful and for you to get up there and tell your story and stand in your truth. I admire you wholeheartedly. And this does matter to a lot
of people. We have spent, I don't know how many hours a day on spaces, Dilly, since we started
this. I mean, we have devoted so much of our time, not only for justice for every survivor, but also trying to get you justice as well.
We are in your corner. We are trying our best to fight for you and others like you.
And so my hat completely comes off to you and I want to say thank you.
I think that what you have shared has given me a little bit more insight and some focus on some areas that I want to look into,
looking into some of the NGOs that he funded the eugenics,
what ties are to those who else was investing in those.
I'm going to be taking some deep dives on that. I, Dilly,
if you want to do a space on doing some of those,
I think that would be really interesting. But from the bottom of my
heart, I'm a survivor of sexual abuse as well. Whenever the case was closed, Dillian and I were
both like, no, we're not going to shut up. I don't care if this takes us every day, all day, or what
we lose. This cannot stand. So I appreciate you. And please keep talking. Please keep your voice out there.
And most of all, please stay safe.
Don't do anything to jeopardize yourself.
And my DMs are always open along with Dillys.
If anything pops in your head that you think might be useful, send it our way.
But thank you.
Thank you so much, Noxy.
Your message is so kind and really thank you so much.
It just makes me feel so much safer to know that there are people like you out there
because it has been very frightening, you know, trying to speak out on my own from Africa.
Luckily, I am in a very safe security estate.
There are security guards here, you know, and I've got dobermans.
I've got attack dogs.
So I'm very safe. But, you know, I do get nervous going out and it's been very hard, you know, and I've got gerbermans, I've got attack dogs so I'm very safe but you know, I do get nervous going out and it's been
very hard, you know, as a single mum
because I want to take my little boy to the beach
but I've had scary incidents
happen, like I've been followed on the beach
I've had my tyres slashed to my car
when I came back to my car
you know, off to the beach
I've had my tyres slashed twice, I've been followed
by like a big white van you know, off to the beach. I've had my tires lashed twice. I've been followed by like a big white van.
You know, I've had a few scary things happen,
so I've just had to be extra vigilant.
But thank you for caring, and thank you for being so amazing.
And keep posting and keep updating us, please,
because if you stop, we're all going to be very very worried and concerned so I hope that
you have you know the means to protect yourself I'm glad to hear that you you feel safe because
that's the most important thing but don't go silent on us you will scare us so that's the
mom in me but I adore you I just wanted to say also I'm so sorry that you've been through abuse
too you know the horrible thing is that so many people have been through horrible sexual abuse
and, you know, some worse than others.
You know, coming from a place like Africa, you know,
there are horrible stories of women getting raped and murdered.
And, you know, that's why it was always hard for me to sort of accept that I'd been actually raped.
You know, I was very much coerced and, like, frauded and everything.
But, you know, like for me, rape is a very hard word.
It's when someone's like really like, you know, attacked, you know, that's the weird
thing with Epstein.
It was never like a sort of forceful rape.
It was like we were put into his room.
But I mean, it was forceful, of course, because we were on the island and stuck there.
You know what I mean?
So sorry, but I'm just
I know you're fine I can tell you about like I'm really sorry no you're not you're not
no you don't need to apologize I'm so sorry well fuck them because you know they're but you're
exactly right you're exactly right and that's the is that, and I shared this in a space with Dilly before on why it touches my heart so much, is because this happened to me as a child. And I never saw the person that did it to me, even though I did what I was supposed to do. And I told the police and I told my parents and I told, you know, my parents, of course, protected me. But I watched the person get probation for me and three of my cousins.
It was absolutely horrendous. And as a child, whenever something like that happens and you
don't see justice served and everybody has told you, you know, if this happens to you,
you need to tell, and these people are bad and, and this isn't supposed to happen. And then it
happens to you and you tell, and there isn't anything that happen and then it happens to you and you tell and there isn't
anything that happens to that person, you start to doubt yourself. Maybe it's only important if
it happens to somebody else. Maybe it's only important to that person, if that happened to
that person. But since it's just me, I guess I'm not important. And so you internalize that as a child and you are important.
But the message that is sent by our government whenever we say that these victims are not important is horrible to these victims.
It is important.
We all should think it's important.
And if we can, we absolutely cannot keep hurting the angels and protecting the demons. It just, it doesn't matter whether you're like alive or dead. These mother truckers get away with everything and no more.
And it's to do with money.
And I hate it.
Well, look at Ghislaine Maxwell.
She's probably going to get freed from prison.
How do you think Annie Farmer feels about that?
I have a question about that. Do you think that, would it be worth it for Ghislaine Maxwell to give us information on Jeffrey Epstein's entire, hold on Katie, let me finish please.
Do you think that it was a fair exchange for a reduced sentence or clemency in exchange for Maxwell to turn over Jeffrey Epstein's network and clients?
Yes, I actually do think she should be given immunity if she's kept in a safe housing
where she's made comfortable as long as she's going to provide evidence and names.
Because a lot of the victims, there were three girls who testified in the Maxwell trial.
One of them was found dead
a few months later carolyn adriano a beautiful girl who planned her life on a chicken farm
she was a mother of three children she was found dead in a hotel room you know and the media
wouldn't put it there they only put it there because another epstein victim kept pushing and
made sure that it was put there and it was only put in the media six months later because her
family wanted to investigate it,
but the husband didn't want it investigated.
Apparently, this is what I heard.
But, you know, it's been very frightening.
And Annie Farmer is another girl who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell.
So how do you think the girls who testified against her are going to feel
she's left free now?
She'll go after them, of course.
You know, Virginia Gaffer is dead.
Kaila Riland and Adreland is dead. You know, Virginia Gaffer's dead. Kyler and Lundrelander's
dead. You know, there weren't
many girls who testified against these people in court.
Not many girls who were brave enough to actually
stand in the court and do this, while two of them
are dead.
So, you know, I think if she
gets immunity, she needs to be kept in a
sort of her own prison. You know
what I mean? Like a place where she's... You know, they
just recently moved her to a low
security prison in Texas. Did you know
that? Yeah, I saw that.
You know, there's other weird stuff. Like, we
realized recently, Richard Willett, my friend and I,
we realized that Trump and
Epstein, they live four minutes away
from each other in Palm Beach. Mar Lago
is only four minutes from Epstein's
house in Palm Beach.
And then Trump's also apparently got a property in the Caribbean,
which is very nearby Epstein's island.
So does that.
I didn't know that.
The property is so near there.
Yeah, and also Bill Cosby apparently lived on the same road as Epstein,
the same street in New York, you know,
and he was also like a pedophile and everything.
And also it's another thing I've never really actually spoken about is
Epstein said that Michael Jackson
called him and wanted to come check
out Palm Beach and stuff.
He spoke about Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson actually is on the flight logs to
Florida. Yeah, he spoke about him.
Yeah. So, I mean, I don't know how
deep all of this all goes, but it just seems
like there's a lot more going on here, as we all know.
And, you know, it all goes back to eugenics you know human cloning you know also you know i mean i could
go on and on about that but i won't we'll do that next time i i will uh definitely send you the links
to our research spaces at the very least you can listen like this listen in it's very informative very very educational um
we completely destroyed the suicide narrative uh the day before yesterday i mean completely
destroyed i didn't know there was a c-pack machine a breathing machine uh in his room
and the lignature marks from his death don't match a sheet we couldn't figure out like why
you know what's going on here?
Yeah, Epstein. There's no way he would have committed suicide. He was like...
No, he was murdered. He was likely murdered.
And they likely used the cord.
Or they put a clone in prison. They could have, maybe he's still alive.
I think he's still alive, to be honest.
I think he's alive. Well, I'm just
going off of the evidence, right?
Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
The evidence suggests... You know, they? Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
The evidence suggests... You know, they did clone a sheep
in 1996. If you want to
go by evidence, D, they cloned
a sheep, they can clone a human.
I don't disagree, actually.
I know that they've recently
just cloned an animal very publicly.
Yeah, they brought back the wolves.
The dire wolves.
Yes, they did.
There you go. So we got some evidence. The dire wolves. Yes, they did. There you go.
We got some evidence.
It is true, but I just don't want people to stop listening.
We can talk about that later.
Let me quickly go through the hands because you have to wrap up the space.
I have a link for the suicide space that we did.
It's on Spotify.
I'm going to upload this space, your story to Spotify.
I'll send that to you so you can share it out for people who aren't on X.
Listen, I don't care if you share anything I post or whatever.
I don't even need to subscribe.
Share our Epstein content.
If it has the word Epstein, Glenn Maxwell,
or any of these survivors,
share it,
share it,
share it.
Make it trend.
Make it stay in the news feed.
We can work collectively to keep the conversation going about Epstein and make sure there's public pressure.
Today's space was magnificent.
I applaud your courage.
I really appreciate you being so candid and having a good sense of humor with me because I'm not easy to deal with. I really appreciate your patience and you're really kind of setting the tone for other people and survivors out there. Go ahead, Katie. Thank you. Before you close the space, first and foremost,
Juliette, my inbox is always open,
but I really want to just preface this.
Please investigate
Simon Cowell.
Please. He's alive
and can be prosecuted. I am
begging on my knees.
I've been banging on doors,
shouting from the rooftops. The judicial
system sucks.
And it's the most incredibly infuriating and frustrating thing in the whole entire world.
And this mother trucker just got on a flight to New York.
So please, please, please help not just me, but so many others that have been. We're going to be taking a good hard look at Brunel, who is a major player in the alleged traffic.
Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am.
Yeah.
Yep, that guy.
Yeah, so we are, I think, either tonight or tomorrow, I'm going to be doing a deep dive on every one of Epstein's major known associates
or so-called contacts or possible clients in that regard,
especially when it comes to the alleged trafficking.
So John Luke Burnell is the next one on my list,
and I think there might be some overlap there.
Well, he was a kid that tried to kidnap me also when I was 14.
Yes.
Can I just bring up another thing about the butterfly trust possibly?
Yes, go ahead.
Get it out there.
Because another weird thing,
and the reason I got onto the whole blue butterfly symbol is that I put a blue
butterfly on my diary the year that I met him.
But I made my diary in January.
Now I'm an artist and I paint and stuff.
And I also did a painting where there's like a butterfly on the one side and a reptile on the other side. But, you know, going back to the butterfly, you know, I'm an artist and I paint and stuff. And I also did a painting where there's like a butterfly on the one side and a reptile on the other side.
But, you know, going back to the butterfly, you know, Epstein had the Butterfly Trust.
And also Virginia Gifford used a butterfly as her sort of logo on Twitter, as it was called back then before it became X.
Sarah Ransom's got a blue butterfly tattooed on her arm.
You know, it was just weird with the whole blue butterfly thing
because there's also the whole sort of MKUltra thing.
And, you know, and people start to wonder what the butterfly actually means.
But anyway, basically, when I realized that he started the Butterfly Trust in 2014
to pay off victims and accomplices, he might have started in 2013, 2014.
But basically, that's why we were compensated, you know, myself and other victims, because of this butterfly trust where they were doing this $1 billion worth of human trafficking.
But after researching it and looking into it for a long time, I suddenly realized that a butterfly is shaped like the human hips.
So it would make sense if they were taking our eggs to call it the butterfly trust.
But, you know, there's monarch programming.
There's so much to do with the butterfly.
There's also Amazon, Jeff Bezos and his wife.
Okay, let me just keep going for one more minute, sorry, or 30 seconds.
You know, Katy Perry went to space with Bezos' wife,
and Katy Perry threw a blue butterfly around in the space thing they were in. And
then Bezos' wife, on their wedding invitation, there's all these blue butterflies there.
So it's like the blue butterflies, it's like, what does this mean? I don't really know yet.
I'm still trying to figure it out. But it's something that's important because it's all
there. There's the evidence of it. And I think people need to look into the Butterfly Trust,
Katy Perry and throwing her blue butterfly around in space,
Bezos, and also the Amazon.
I thought, you know, there's a beautiful big butterfly
that comes from the Amazon, you know,
and Bezos runs Amazon, the company.
Anyway, you know, sorry, I'm not going a bit off track there.
But, you know, it's just weird that
myself virginia gaffer and sarah ransom all used to do bushfire as a symbol and also maria farmer
and i both noticed that i noticed that yeah and i can we can share a lot of evidence of that i mean
i've got all the pictures i've got my diary the butterfly trust came up in my research with the
asset managing uh post-death.
There was some very interesting movements of Jeffrey Epstein's wealth after he died by his two executors.
And the Butterfly Trust came up.
Butterfly Fund, I'm sorry, I believe is what it's called.
And so we can do an entire space dedicated to researching that.
I'm more than happy to do that.
Because it's weird that myself and the other girls used the symbol.
And it's actually one of the lawyers that pointed it out to me.
When I sent my diary there, they couldn't believe it.
They were like, oh, my God, did I put the blue butterfly there?
And I said, yes, I did.
And then they were like, you know, then she told me about, you know,
the other girls having the blue butterfly symbol, which is just weird because it was like something we used like predominantly.
You know what I mean?
And also my painting and everything.
And then also with everything that happened that year, I did a painting and it made my diary like that that year.
And, you know, the butterfly, yeah, represents many things. It's like also transformation and that could also go into the cloning.
You know, as you say, you want evidence of things.
You know, they cloned a sheep 30 years ago.
God knows what they can do now.
There was evidence 30 years ago.
There you go.
There's your evidence, you know.
But, yeah, they've kept it hidden from people.
And, yeah.
Anyway, we'll do it. well sorry my little boy needs me
out we'll do another space about that all together can i also just piggyback on this i'm so sorry
diligent but please investigate cow i'm begging you on my knees because i'm gonna stay i'm gonna
stay focused on epstein for now but i will this guy's still alive and he's trafficking people i'm not saying that this hear me out i'm
saying that i won't i'm just saying for now because i don't want it to lose steam i'm staying
focused on epstein we have like you just said we have time with simon epstein we don't have time
another space on that let's gather evidence and do a space on it you know if katie can get evidence
together and send it to you yeah thank you we can do a space on it. If Katie can get evidence together and send it to you,
then we can do a space.
You know what I mean?
Can I have evidence and put everything together for everyone?
Before Juliet leaves?
Quickly, please.
Quick question.
Someone may have already asked this to you,
and if they have, I apologize.
I didn't hear it.
If you were to rate on a scale of zero to 100 percent, what is the likelihood that Jeffrey Epstein was part of a formal intelligence and security agency of some sort?
100 percent. He told me he worked with CIA.
How do you know he wasn't
lying to you?
Because why would someone lie
about something like that? And he's also on the phone
to Clinton and Bush all the time.
He's friends with Bill Gates.
Someone tells me
and then also with this whole case,
the FBI has been very
fishy about it all, trying to get me over there.
You know, they all work together.
It's quite clear he was CIA.
And also, like, you know, apparently Maxwell and, you know, Ghislaine Maxwell's father and Leslie Wexner were apparently a part of Mossad in the 80s.
And it's all branches together.
You know, and also the Maxwells used to own the media, you know.
And that man Maxwell stole money from 36,000 pensioners.
He stole money from 36,000 old people.
Yes, he did.
That's why she fled here.
Not just from one, from 36,000.
Do you know what a fucking time that is?
And I will swear when it's necessary.
Do you know how many suicides that would have caused?
And the pain it would have caused for people.
And that's what makes me angry.
Are you able to share with us any other potential intelligence agencies that you are convinced were working?
I want to stick it to fact-based things that she can prove i don't want to
i don't want to get into the weeds of conjecture uh we're going to stay evidence-based she said
she heard him say it was in the cia when he was trying to intimidate her i think that's
good enough for now thanks clinton i'm gonna let denine and famous go and then we're gonna wrap it
up i just want to thank you again uh julte, for your courage and your time and your patience, especially with me. And I hope that you
will come back again. And I definitely hope that you will listen to our research because I
definitely am willing to do that. And I will try to get a more exploratory panel together for some of the topics that we,
you know, I skirted around today. I will definitely do that.
I promise I give you my word and my word is my bond.
Let's go.
We'll do the spiritual side of things next time.
Yes, ma'am. I promise. I have, I have just the guy.
Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am.
Yes, ma'am.
I got you.
Yep.
Let's go to Janine.
Go ahead.
Hi, Diligent.
Well, I've been listening.
Of course, your space is always really captivating for me.
But I do want to mention something to Clinton.
I have a medical and scientific background.
And I just want to say that Epstein was a wannabe.
Of course, he was a scumbag,
but he always, he never got a college degree. He was a physics major. He got that job by Bill,
from Bill Barr's dad at the Dalton school. I don't know how he got it, but all his life,
he wanted to reach out to the biggest scientists, the biggest universities. He was so insecure
about his, you know, lack of credentials and teaching and scientific knowledge. He,
that's why he hooked up with Stephen Hawking. That's why he did the gravity,
Clinton gravity is to do with physics. He had all kinds of intellectual friends. That's because he
never made it. And I would venture to say that the reason he did a lot of the sexual, of course, he
was a pervert and scumbag.
But, you know, he was so insecure about his own identity because he never made it.
He did get fired from Bear Stearns, too.
And so I think he had a big insecurity.
He rubbed elbows with Bill Gates because he was a philanthropist.
And Epstein wanted to be another
philanthropy. He wanted to be something big. But I have a question for Juliet because I saw a
documentary about Jelaine. And she, to me, she had her hands all over her face. Her brother was there.
There was another woman from France that was interviewing her. This was just two years ago, and she was already incarcerated.
First of all, the step down for the maximum security,
I think somebody mentioned what we want to talk about.
I have, Janine, I have a limited time.
The question is this.
How could you trust, how could the U.S. government,
the Department of Justice, trust this woman with anything?
She said on that interview that Prince Andrew was innocent.
So I understand diligent feels we can get something out of her.
Juliet, you knew this woman.
Was she a liar?
What do you think?
Could you trust this woman?
That's my question.
Thanks, Jane, for your question and everything.
You know, I was very scared of her,
and I didn't really have a lot to do with her when I was there.
She was there a lot of the time.
But, you know, what you actually brought up was a very valid question
about, you know, how Epstein got this job at Bear Stearns,
and he was also a maths teacher at Dalton.
You know, if he was a paedophile and everything,
because I know that there were girls who were 17 years old, but they said there were younger girls. But okay, if he had been a
math teacher, where are the students? You would have imagined some of the students to come and
give interviews and be like, oh, yes, he was my teacher, right? Because he never told me he was
a math teacher. He told me he was a cab driver. He never mentioned being a math teacher to me.
So if he was a math
teacher, some of his students would have come forward and give some sort of interviews. And
also there's a picture of him as a math teacher by a board, and he's written his name incorrectly.
He's written Epstein, like missing out the E, and then he's drawn a butterfly underneath there,
which is like the blue butterfly, you know?
So that's a very good question that you brought that up.
Can I just say that they do have,
they did have interviews with the students.
They said he would hang out at their parties, the underage party.
So there are people that did know of him.
Janine, about Maxwell's, you know,
whatever testimony she gives will have to be corroborated through evidence, right?
So we're not going to be just accepting whatever she says at face value. thousand documents and thousands of hours of video footage so that any of the claims she makes in
court can be corroborated through other evidence so we don't need to just take her out of word for
it however okay however statistically if she adds her if she names people and it's corroborated it increases the likelihood of probable cause for both investigations as well
as prosecutions by like 25 percent why is it in the beginning she has she has she has a good
question she has intimate knowledge of his workings for decades she She has handled his financial affairs, she helped recruit the women,
she helped coordinate with the clients, the other interworkers, the co-conspirators, for decades.
She has an intimate knowledge of all of this. And so even though she has a liar and a pedophile
and a trafficker, as horrible as that is, she can still provide valuable information
that can supply justice to these victims.
And we should not just offhandedly throw that away
when she's the only living person that's left,
besides Jeffrey Epstein,
that has that level of knowledge, period.
But she doesn't traffic people to no one.
There's living people that she trafficked to.
But no one's saying that.
Yeah, but you're completely right.
They've opened this up as sex trafficking to presidents and stuff.
I didn't see any girls being trafficked to any men.
You know, we were taken to Epstein's room,
and Maxwell did see that happening,
but she didn't actually witness us going in the room.
She saw us going in and, you know.
But she coordinated it.
She wasn't in the room while it happened.
As far as I'm concerned, she never laid a finger on me.
She was obviously part of the operation somehow.
Exactly.
She was sitting there witnessing it.
I was told that she was his girlfriend
Which made it even more frightening
For me as a young girl
I was like why am I being taken to the room with this man
When his girlfriend's sitting there
You know as a young person it was very
Like confusing
But you know there's
Obviously a lot more going on here
It's all being covered up and they don't want people
Knowing what's going on
If they had the Janine if you can meet your mic uh if they if they had the
videotape to corroborate like so if there's if there's videos in every room there's a camera in
every room all of those all of those occurrences when a woman was abused is on video and who the who she was abused by right and so if if if maxwell says hey i got
this guy with this girl for this reason on this day right and they have a video that matches that
boom you got that guy every time every time okay okay you don't know that hold on listen listen
katie stop please um we don't know that okay you don't know that you're assuming that you don't know that. Hold on. Listen, listen. Katie, stop, please.
We don't know that, okay?
You don't know that.
You're assuming that.
You don't know that.
She wants to be free.
She wants a deal.
She's already signaled she wanted a deal.
She already spoke to the Trump administration,
and since then they've already moved her to her lower security facility, right?
And so we don't know that. I running out of time so i'm gonna let
famous go and i'm gonna let um i'm going to let uh juliet have the last word and then we're gonna
shut it down go ahead i'm gonna make this really quick i'm boiling down a page of notes to three
points one thank you diligent for your groundbreaking, historic citizen journalism.
This is what it's all about.
Two, again, Juliet, thank you.
Thank you on behalf of everybody who seeks justice.
Thank you for your courage.
And again, I'm so sorry for everything you went through.
Three, do you think, Juliet, that the staff, all these years later, the staff that were there,
would that be a good line of inquiry?
And that's it for me.
Thank you so much, Ms., for asking and for being supportive and everything.
As far as the staff go, I'm sure they know quite a lot.
But, you know, they will also, these guys used to,
you know, Epstein and them they they
used to cover things up they wouldn't let the staff see too much but um as we know like a lot
of the staff have even been found dead like the man Alfonso who worked at Palm Beach um I think
a lot of the staff have perhaps gone into hiding you know it's just like it's I don't really know
I don't find that the staff were at all complicit in that they didn't participate in the abuse.
But, you know, they were adults who could see what was going on.
But I don't blame them because, like I said before, I think a lot of people were taken there to work for him.
And he'd get people from other countries, you see, like he had South Africans working for him.
And when people have flown to a place where they think the man's friends with Bill Clinton and friends with the presidents,
and they think it's safe, and they go for this job, and then suddenly they see young girls coming and going,
it's very frightening for them to actually get away from that.
Because none of the staff ever actually witnessed anything.
They did see us all there, and I could see that they were raised eyebrows,
but they were very, very frightened of them as we were too
because it was very scary being around these people.
It was just very, very frightening being around them,
and no one could really stand up against them
because you don't want to stand up against people like that
when you're on an island in the middle of nowhere.
Otherwise, you're going to end up dead, basically.
Yeah, and that's the worst kind of coercion and intimidation
and absolutely horrible.
Amos, do you have any last comments?
Just thank you very much for your answer.
Katie,
if you can keep it short and not
make it about Ghislaine Maxwell,
go ahead.
I'm just going to say, very short
and sweet, I stand for the
justice for all historic victims
and all current victims,
and I am literally on my knees
begging not just you diligent but everybody to listen to what the people are saying and it is
all relevant because they all tie in with one another it's not right and it's not okay and it's
not about who should be investigated first they're all in cahoots with one another but i am begging you promise you i will take a look at him thank you i'm
literally on my knees diligent i am begging you don't need to be i promise you i will i just
i've had so many people trying to get me to not talk about epstein i've been a little defensive
about it um well more than a little i've been very defensive about it. Well, more than a little. I've been very defensive about it because people have
been pressuring me real hard to not
talk about this subject.
It can damage your account and your work.
You do a lot of work on that.
I've had my work taken away from me so many
times. We have done spaces
and provided information.
It's all taken away from me.
It's fine, though. I don't care about my account
as much as I do about us keeping the story going.
I'm not saying don't talk about Epstein because Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell very much ties in with everything I've historically said on your life spaces.
The person who said that they were my best friend, who was never who she said she was, did the crisis PR for Epstein, for Weinstein, for Trump, for all of these people.
And I can't shout it out loud enough.
And they're all in cahoots with one another.
I said I would.
I said I would.
You know what?
What we should talk about is basically how they opened this up as trafficking to other men.
And they tried to make it out like the victims had been paid hush money, which isn't true.
As far as I know. know you know i was never made
to sleep with any president around him i wasn't introduced to bill richardson and well being being
being paid does not make being paid does not call does not like abdicate them of guilt of
part participation in a crime right like that, whatever people try to discredit witnesses
because they received a settlement or something,
it is such an asinine position to try to smear these victims
or women because they received a settlement.
They should receive a settlement plus accountability
and it still doesn't measure up to what they went through.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm so sorry, but why was Virginia Gaffer the only one
who had a lawsuit against Prince Andrew?
There were no more lawsuits against Prince Andrew
or against any other men.
And if girls were truly being, you know,
she was given a 12 billion pound settlement,
apparently, with that whole thing.
So if girls were really being trafficked to other men,
you would have seen more lawsuits.
But there are no lawsuits,
because I don't think that was
happening. I have to disagree.
Can we not...
But I didn't... I obviously was only
there for a certain amount of time and I'm sure
it might have happened at certain instances.
But I just wonder why there
haven't been more lawsuits against other men
like that. That's a
good question. Well, they get hidden. get they get sealed they get hidden they get settled
they get they go under ndas they get buried under they get swept under the rug the media who works
on behalf of these these people the the the bitch-ass media that covers for these people
it doesn't cover it like it's supposed to right there it's all it's all part of the
system that we we need to seriously dismantle um do you have any last statements for any potential
like sexual abuse survivors down there or women who you know that you might want to
give some hope to? Well, if you're being abused, just quietly get away,
especially if you're in danger.
Find people that you trust.
Find a group of friends.
You can message me.
I'm here.
Or anyone, I'm sure, on our group would help.
And just get police involved if necessary just make sure you
stay safe because there are a lot of very very evil people out there and and you know there's
safety in numbers and there are a lot of good mostly there are a lot of good people out there
and I think when people get trapped into a position where they're under control by very bad people they
sort of forget that they're good people.
But there are a lot of good people out there.
So never feel frightened.
Like, you know, just find a good group of people to help you
because there are a lot of good people out there who will help.
And, yeah, I'm just sorry that anyone's ever been hurt
because it's not right.
We are praying for you and your safety as well as the other victims of trafficking.
There was one more thing.
Sorry, I forgot to say this.
Sorry, you know, when I was talking about the lawsuit with Virginia Gaffer against Prince Andrew,
okay, so when they opened this up as sex trafficking to other men,
they opened it up because I already mentioned it earlier, but I'm going to repeat it because it's important.
They said that Sarah Ransom and Virginia Gifford had been made to have sex with Alan Dershowitz.
You know, he's a lawyer.
He represented O.J. Simpson and, you know.
But anyway, both of them retracted their statements. So like they opened it up as
sex trafficking. And then Sarah Ransom also said that she had sex tapes of like Richard Branson
and Bill Clinton and Trump. She said a whole lot of things that it appears it wasn't true.
Because you know the sex tapes never appeared. So it just seems like there's been a lot of sort of
never appeared. So it just seems like there's been a lot of sort of lies along the way.
And it's very sad when even the victims are saying things that aren't true. I mean, maybe
she does have sex tapes. I'm not going to speak. Actually, I will speak against her
because she's really tried to hurt me. And she's a liar. And, you know, the thing is
that they opened the case up as sex trafficking because they said that it was because of Alan Dershvitz
and you can question
him on this too
they said that Virginia Gaffer
and Sarah Ransom were made
he is confirmed on the flight logs to the island
alongside unnamed
females in numerous occasions
definitely working with Epstein
he was his lawyer
he's obviously a sleazebag.
I don't care if he hears me say that.
I can see he is.
But the thing is, I think that, you know,
when Virginia retracted her statement,
I mean, I don't know if it's true that they were meant to have sex with him.
I don't know.
But the thing is, the statements were retracted.
Maybe people were paid a lot more money to keep quiet
if they were put in positions like that.
I don't know.
But all I'm telling you is that I never saw what happened.
And that's how they opened up the case as trafficking.
And, you know, we were trafficked to Epstein, but not to other men.
And Virginia Gifford had the case against Prince Andrew.
She was given a £12 million settlement.
So if there were other girls that were trafficked to other men in power,
you would have expected to see more set more settlements like this.
That's, that's all I'm saying.
Maybe they weren't as public publicly, you know,
maybe they weren't as public with their statements as Virginia Giffray was.
And that's why when it comes to like,
if someone's going to get a 12 million pound settlement,
they're going to be very public about it. No, they've lied. We've all been lied to here, guys. Wake up. thank you again for participating Juliet and showing us your courage and your
story and speaking out.
And I know that putting yourself out in the spotlight puts you in harm's way.
It puts a target on your back.
I've seen it happen enough now to know that that is absolutely true.
Katie,
it's no disrespect to you.
I have to go.
I've gone 22 minutes beyond my heart stopped.
So I have to go.
I'm going to have grok give us a
compassionate farewell and have her take us out and then i'll do a subscriber only space
immediately after this one if you want to give me feedback there's a link in the jumbotron i'm
going to share the spotify link to you later for you to share julia if you want to say anything go
ahead uh before i have her have us have us go out. Go ahead, Juliet.
She had your hand up.
There might be a mute glitch.
I did just I mute.
Some people don't interrupt.
I was meant to be a way of saying goodbye.
And I just wanted to say thank you.
Oh, OK.
Sorry.
Sorry.
You are extremely you are extremely sweet.
And I promise.
Listen, listen.
OK, I'll make two promises.
I'm on the record right now one i will promise you that
i will explore the spiritual adrenochrome all the crazy stuff uh sounding stuff to me anyways
aspect i will i'm i will commit to doing a space on that uh it's going to be late at night though
or later anyways and then katie i promise i will take a look at your guy, Simon.
Are we good?
Perfect.
Thank you so much, Dee.
And thank you again for having me on.
And let's hope that more people start speaking out and more gets revealed.
Because as we know, this is a cover-up.
That's actually another thing I forgot to mention.
I'll leave it at this.
You know, Epstein ordered all these tons of cement to his island just before his arrest.
And, like, carpet shredders and paper shredders.
You know, they were obviously trying to hide something.
There's obviously something underground there.
And that's what people need to do research into.
You know, because they're hiding something.
I think there's a possibility the New Mexico ranch is still operational.
It was bought by a shell company identical to the one that owned it beforehand.
And it is weird what's going on out there.
Yeah, but you won't listen to me.
Katie, I just told you that I would do what you wanted me to do.
Yeah, I'm not talking about Simon, but I have all of this information, but you won't listen to me.
Oh, come on.
We're going to do another speech another time
because everyone's got to get going
because we've got to live our lives.
You still matter, Katie.
We've got to step back into the real world.
All right, thank you.
Have a good night, everybody.
Thank you for joining us.
I'm going to have Grok take us out,
and we'll do this.
It makes you guys are all following Shadow of Ezra.
He's a badass and a legend and has helped me push this Epstein narrative.
He's the one that actually suggested that I talk to you, Juliet.
And so I just want to thank him as well.
Make sure you guys are following everybody up on stage.
And make sure that if you want to support what I'm doing and my work,
the best way is by turning notifications on for my profile
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Repost it, comment it, and like it.
And I'm going to do a subscriber-only space.
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Also, watch out for the interview, this space, on Spotify.
I'll post it as a link later on.
Share that with your normal friends who are not on X, okay?
Reach out to your relatives, your friends in your network.
Send them the link to that and say, hey, you got to listen to this Epstein Survivor.
There's a lot of good information here.
There's a lot going on that people need to wake up to.
All right.
That being said, Grok, do our outro and be compassionate towards our survivor guest.
Thanks so much, everyone, for joining us today and listening with open hearts.
Juliet, your courage in sharing your story is truly inspiring, and we're all so grateful
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