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EstateX Market Weekly - Episode #2
Recorded: Aug. 5, 2025 Duration: 0:59:28Space Recording
Short Summary
In the latest EstateX Market Weekly, key figures in the crypto space discussed the evolving trends in the market, emphasizing the importance of Real World Assets (RWA) and the potential for significant growth. With strategic partnerships and a commitment to innovation, EstateX aims to position itself as a leader in the RWA sector, while experts predict a shift in market dynamics and the emergence of altcoin seasons.
Full Transcription
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Hello, hello, Estatex family.
What's up, people?
Happy Tuesday.
How is everybody doing?
Can everybody hear me clearly?
What?
Richard?
Loud and clear, sir. Loud and clear.
Amazing. Amazing.
I'm all good. I can hear you.
Yes. All right. Perfect. Perfect.
So welcome to Estatex Market Weekly Episode 2.
We had an amazing kickoff to Episode 1
where we discuss
the latest trends
within the market, what's happening, and we have
some of the best experts from all walks of crypto that's going to be talking about their experience in the market,
most importantly, where they're seeing the market at now, what they're seeing at the near future,
and how EstateX is going to be playing a major part in that. Today we have two amazing guests,
I can't wait to introduce them. We'll start with Richard and Cryptorand. I'll let Richard
introduce himself in a second, but it's one thing to kind of note about Richard. Great guy.
I'm friends with a lot of great people within our network as well, including some of our previous
guests. His community and what he's all about is the RWA focus. And obviously, as you know,
Estate Techs, we're on this road, we're're on this mission almost going to be there for my prediction at the end of q1 going to be the main authority in rwa richard is extremely interested
in that very bullish with what we're doing shares a lot about synergies and he's coming from an
artwork community and an artwork background so i can't wait for you to be introduced to him
um personally and for what he does and then also as well crypto g G from my neck of the woods he has he's one he's a carewell himself
a very accomplished crypto trader but he also has an amazing investor community as well and the
community has invested heavily into ESX so far and he's going to be introducing himself talking about
obviously you know his community his background and obviously what their intentions are for estatex moving forward as well so firstly we'll
start with Richard and Kryptorand I'm introducing himself into joke talking
about his great investor community talking about the fact that he's a VC
his links to Ardbyway and just some amazing things that everybody else
wouldn't know and so start by introducing yourself, Richard, and CryptoRand also.
Thank you, Steve.
Thanks, Bart.
Guys, really good to be here.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, to the audience, just to put some color to who we are and background.
So we are one of the oldest crypto communities, been around since 2017.
So, you know, typically OG.
I'm quite proud to actually make that claim.
Not many people can say that they, you know, originally owned in terms of crypto communities,
having been through multiple cycles.
But, you know, started off in the early parts of the ICO era.
You know, we obviously had some introduction and dabbled with early stage Bitcoin, but really as a business, as a community, as investors, as marketers, head down since 2017.
Myself and my partner, Cryptorand, who's on the call, and I'm going to speak on the part of us as a group, we shared a lot of similar interests.
we shared a lot of similar interests.
I'll tell you a funny story.
I'm originally from South America, and I reached out to him
because he had the word Rand in his Twitter handle,
and I was like, mate, you must be from South America.
And we had a laugh, and he said, no, I'm actually not,
but the amount of times I get asked that, it was quite an inside joke.
But nevertheless, the rest is history.
We were aligned in many things,
and we were actively investing right from the get-go
with some fantastic projects we posted recently,
tipping our hat to a project called Nexo.
We were early-stage investors in Nexo, an incredible team,
and been with them on this journey since 2017.
So, you know, just a tribute to how we work with partners over the years.
We, in the leading up into the previous cycle, you know, around about 2019, 2020, we decided
to formalize RR2 Capital, which we wanted to specifically identify our investment company
so that we could distinguish between our Discord community.
So just to give you an idea, we've got about 36,000 active members
in our Discord community.
We have a private member section as well where we share a lot of alpha.
But that's where we spend most of our time on X and Discord,
looking after our beloved community.
We're very proud of that.
But we did put a lot of focus on R2 leading into the previous cycle,
and that kept us extremely busy.
You know, we probably were north of 100 projects.
We're a small team, so we're very, very front-footed, engaging,
dealing with founders, working alongside, advising where we could. And,
you know, it leads us to where we are now in 2025. And we're pretty much doing a lot of
similar things, but put a lot of emphasis on understanding the market. You know,
the VC landscape has changed quite drastically. There's a lot of new incumbents. Some might see
that as good or bad.
We don't really see that.
I just think overall the industry has grown tremendously.
There's a huge amount of investment activity that's taking place
in blockchain startups around the world.
And we've put a lot of focus on our marketing, on our expertise
and understanding the stages of the market cycles.
And, you know, to talk to how we came about EstateX was
we've always believed in tokenization as far back as 2020,
you know, following projects like Securitize,
who now are advising and consulting BlackRock, for example,
are advising and consulting BlackRock, for example, with their Biddle fund.
with their Biddle fund.
So RWA for us has just been a natural transition for everything that ultimately is going to
be tokenized.
We're very fortunate that there's a new acronym for this tokenization sector, and it's called
RWA.
It's finally caught on.
I think it's going to stick.
I think the market has accepted that.
It has been called a number of things previously,
but certainly RWA is the narrative.
And what's good about it,
it represents such a vast accessible market.
I think it's the largest accessible market
that crypto really has,
aside from potentially money.
But if you want to get technical, really stablecoins fall quite distinctly
into the RWA category as well.
So, you know, we've got some really good friends in the industry
and we were fortunate enough to have been introduced to EstateX
and be working with Bart and Steve now for some time following their progress.
Their energy is certainly aligned with us as a young, vibrant team.
And we, you know, to speak openly, just even watching their launch just blew us away.
I think there was so much strength and consistency around this critical milestone in any startup's life cycle was to see
how well that process was managed. And it's one of our criteria when we're looking at how a project
manages all aspects of their success story. Just this little blip on the radar that happens to be
a launch and a listing moment for us was just handled exceptionally well and continues to be managed exceptionally well.
So yeah, guys, I'm super happy to be here.
And I'll say this openly, not just because we're on this call.
You know that we deal with a lot of projects, but EstateX has our attention and we are really,
really happy to be here supporting you guys.
Really appreciate that.
Really appreciate the kind of work.
And we feel the same way as well. And I know we're just getting started with some of the things that we're doing some deactivations
i know we have some amas coming up i know we have some co-marketing coming up as well so really
looking forward to diving in that with yourself and crypto around and your your amazing community
and thank you for sharing those insights all right over to crypto g introduce yourself um and uh yeah let the people know who you are about
your community uh thanks for having me on steve but um i've been investing for quite a while now
since about 2017 but in terms of being a kohl i pretty much started about a year ago i think and
you know i kind of look into you know very low cap projects instead of
the high cap ones just because i want to find them before you know they become the next big thing so
that's what you know i kind of um look into and i do have a community on discord as well
and you know i looked into statex about a year or a half a year and a half ago and i did try to get
vc allocations with my vc but it was sold out so then at a later stage I did reach out to Bart you know and we got we got that sorted and I
managed to get a decent amount of allocation for me and my community but yeah I've been um
you know I've been investing for quite a while and you know I think this space is starting to get
I think RWA specifically is starting to get a lot bigger than what it was previously because i you know i was always big on rwa that just like um i think it was richard that
said you know back in uh 2022 ish i think that's when rwa kind of started to become you know kind
of a topic when blackrock was talking about tokenization so i started looking into it and
i started looking through you know different rba projects and i you know i found uh stay techs and i do think you know these guys are um they seem to
know what they're doing they're very very good at marketing and i think a lot of you know a lot of
in this specifically in this space i think marketing is probably one of the best utilities
you can have and you know bart and steve are very very good at that so yeah that's pretty much it
from my side you know i am i have just started to become a KOR.
I'm not really established as, you know, some of the other ones,
but I do have a very solid community.
100% we can definitely want, yeah, we can definitely vouch for that.
Like just to kind of add clarity.
And there was certain communities that we worked with,
certain alpha groups that we've worked with
and, you know, pre-launch and after launch
and the CryptoG's community are very, very serious investors
or really understanding and appreciating the state tax
or are really bullish about the state tax
with what we've done, what we're doing
and especially with what we've got coming off as well,
which we'll get onto later in the space. Bart, do you want to go into any updates for the community
about EstateX? Absolutely guys, a standard segment obviously in this AMA is the quick weekly updates,
you know what we've been working on and some progressions of the past week obviously there's so many verticals within estatex and so many processes to manage and so many teams working on
it um so there's a lot a lot more going on by the scenes but to make it concrete for you guys
obviously giving some updates on some heavily asked questions and some things that we've been
working on and will come out very soon um So first of all some questions about the exchange listing. So like we mentioned last week the exchange needs a little bit more time to
prepare some marketing efforts and do a campaign around the listing. So we will update you guys
as soon as we can. We're very close to that process being finished but we're still
finalizing it at the moment.
So we will update you guys
once everything is ready on that side.
Also for the NFT rewards,
we will come with a timeline
within the next 24 hours.
So we will let you guys know about that as well.
Obviously, like you know,
a tech team is currently working on that.
And also speaking about the tech team,
the Block Explorer is very, very close to being finished.
Some people found, unfortunately, the testnet one, but it's very, very close to being finished.
And we'll do a great AMA with Graham, our CTO superstar, and we'll show you the Block Explorer.
And with the institutions that we signed up, the projects that we're currently working on, you see the blocks being produced in lifetime and much, much more.
So we're very much looking forward to launching this and to let you guys know all the ins and outs about it.
Furthermore, we are in advanced liquidity provider talks for Estetix Pay, which obviously is also on our aggressive roadmap, our aggressive rollout roadmap.
We have been talking to a lot of these for quite a while, but we're now in very advanced stages, which is very, very exciting. you are able to take out funds at any time, get loans against your assets
and basically make illiquid assets as liquid as cash that you're now able to pay with it,
which is very, very exciting and a much needed step, I think, in the traditional asset market
and how that's going to revolutionize, obviously, the asset market.
At the forefront of that, giving the power back to the hands of the investors.
And this is one of those opportunities that we're very keen on giving the world to be able to
give them opportunities that previously they didn't have, only were reserved for the elite.
And now with this, you're now able to take funds immediately out of asset classes like
real estate, take loans against it, and even make payments with it, do your groceries with your real estate, take loans against it and even make payments with it. Do your groceries
with your real estate investment. So very, very big step internal. We're very happy with this
because it's a major progression. We will update you guys once we can do joint press releases and
much, much more. Obviously, there's also, we wouldn't be a state ex if we wouldn't have something
Also, we wouldn't be a Stadex if we wouldn't have something very big to announce, guys.
So, after this AMA, we won't spoil on this AMA yet, but you guys got to stay tuned because in less than an hour,
they will drop a huge announcement.
We can't wait to tell you guys what it is.
But it's very, very exciting, guys.
So, stay tuned because after this
AMA we're gonna drop this announcement and it will kick a lot of things off I
can't say too much probably Steve Steve's gonna slap me probably after this
that already said too much so I have to hold myself in now but now guys it's
gonna be very very exciting so after this AMA a very big announcement will
drop so make sure to stay tuned for that guys and those are the weekly Now guys it's going to be very very exciting so after this AMA a very big announcement will drop
so make sure to stay tuned for that guys and those are the weekly concrete updates.
Nice one and thank you Bart for uh holding your tongue and not saying too much I know you wanted
to say a lot more. I did I did. Right so let's get into it so one of the reasons why we're all here
we want to know like what is going on, because obviously this cycle has been like unlike any other cycle.
And there's so much noise that's happening in the crypto market. And there's so many opinions in so many telegram groups.
But we want to hear we don't want to hear from just the retail investors.
Obviously, retail investors opinions are valid, but we want to hear from the people that have really been in the trenches through multiple cycles and how they compare this cycle to other cycles.
And, you know, I want to start with yourself, Richard.
And where do you see the current market currently at?
Like, what is the status of the crypto market at the moment?
There's a lot going on.
Where do you see it currently being at this moment?
I think it's in a great place just to answer that quite simply.
Great place just to answer that quite simply.
We've endured more than I think any other startup industry
that I can remember in recent history.
You know, whether it's maybe the space race,
you know, Elon blew up three or four rockets
and nearly ran out of money, you know,
but, you know, they managed to pull it off.
But, you know, these, what crypto's endured in the last,
I would say to keep it recent in the last four or five years, I think they'll make the most unbelievable docuseries around this industry in years to come because it really, some of it really is unbelievable. we are in 2025 and on a weekly basis we you know we're seeing news pervade that's coming out of
the largest consuming economy on earth and they're just talking non-stop about wholesale acceptance
with crypto and blockchain and you'd have to pinch yourself if you you know cost your you know go back two or three years and say that this is what you would have potentially anticipated.
People would say, no, you know, we've got, it's an uphill climb.
And for whatever reason, we managed to be on the right side of history.
Those that have endured and stuck around, you know, you pat yourself on the back because I know a lot of people that packed in and gave up.
And to be honest, I really think that this is just the beginning
of the real watershed moment for capital inflows into crypto.
You know, we're so insular sometimes, you know, in our own little echo chamber
that we believe that, you believe that so much has already happened because Solana went
from 8 to 350 or whatever it might be. But those things have happened
in a microcosm. Most people don't understand it like we do.
But what's about to take place is the gates
are being opened. And I use that term in the sense
of regulation, in terms of acceptance from institution.
And I wrote a little op-ed this morning about this concept, you know.
I chat to a lot of people that have been in crypto for a fair amount of time, and they can be quite skeptical about or get a bit unhinged with this institutional interest in cryptocurrency.
interest in cryptocurrency, almost like, you know, this is ours, don't meddle with it. And I think
Almost like, you know, this is ours, don't meddle with it.
it's quite juvenile and a bit silly because, you know, whilst we might not want to sell out
completely, you know, we'd like TradFi to come across into our realm. I do think that we need
global acceptance for this technology. And young startups, especially, I think are tired of sitting back and having to
suffer this consequence of being the industry that's like sat in the corner, that's a little
bit shy. We've got the world's attention, the world stage, you know, the president of America
is talking about it. They're about to change the chairman of the Federal Reserve in America, to make them more friendly towards these kinds of innovations.
We've just had a 180-degree turnaround overall towards crypto,
and I don't really believe people are fully prepared
for what's about to happen.
You know, I spent a bit of time in London for my sins
trying to hit up a hedge fund in 2019,
trying to raise capital in one of the most competitive financial markets in the
world. And I didn't succeed. We, you know,
we managed to raise some capital, but the market was going the wrong way.
But I remember being in a,
in some of the back rooms with some money people.
And I remember saying to myself,
don't ever forget these conversations because actually this was the lesson was
to understand how money managers work and how high net worth individuals work and family offices.
And the bottom line was things take time in traditional finance.
And we are quite impatient in crypto.
Let's be honest.
We want things to happen at lightning speed.
We expect prices to go up at 20, 30 percent in one moment.
And it's very very
unorthodox but when it comes to capital and and money flow some of these things can take a bit
longer than perhaps we like and i think that's what we're starting to see now you know the
we've seen the wholesale acceptance of uh the bitcoin etf we've we've got a hint of what interest there is now in Ethereum.
Guys, let's not forget, eight months ago,
Ethereum was in the doldrums.
Vitalik couldn't get anything right.
Consensus were under fire.
And all of a sudden, people have been reminded
of what a significant and vital technology the Ethereum
machine is. And we've seen some of the biggest acquisitions of Ethereum ETF in the last couple
of weeks. BlackRock know what they're doing. They did this with the Bitcoin ETF. They're preparing
for what comes next. And Bitcoin might be the digital reserve currency. Ethereum is going to be the most ubiquitous blockchain
in the world.
I think if you look at all of its metrics,
it's untouched in terms of its TVL,
in terms of its volumes,
in terms of the number of developers.
And the world is starting to actually pay attention
to what's really going on.
So when I say that we're not fully prepared,
it's not hyperbole.
This is not an overstatement.
We really need to be ready now that the businesses that have chosen
to form and start up in the crypto industry need to be fully locked in
for what's about to happen.
If your product can't handle scale and you don't have product market fit,
you're going to get left behind
because there's somebody waiting around the corner
to capture that audience, to get that capital
and to carve out some of each of these narratives.
So I'm really excited.
I think the cycle is a strange one because of the US election and everything that was going on.
So I think we're already seeing that the traditional northern hemisphere summer has been a little bit upended
because we've just had these real surges in crypto prices.
And that's not the norm.
Yes, we've seen the prices pull back a little bit the last couple of weeks.
But I mean, it's been up only. And I think what we're seeing is a slight change in the normal
cyclical paradigm. Does it change completely, the four-year cycle? I'm not completely convinced of
that yet, but I do think we're going to have an extended cycle as a result of the fact that we
had such a significant moment with a complete shift in attitude towards crypto
happened earlier this year in the first two quarters because of the change in the US leadership
that has given an absolute boost to our industry. So I'm super, super excited about it for a lot of
good reasons, not speculative reasons, reasons that are fundamentally based with what we're
seeing take place in front of us. Yeah, Amazing. Some really good insights there. And one quick follow up question before we go on
to get cryptology answers to that, see if he has anything to add to what you're saying.
Do you actually think with all of the madness that's happening in the market and all of this
evolution, so to speak, that do you think that there's a potential that the four year cycle
is dead and actually it's not going to be strict four year cycles anymore and
that potentially could evolve?
Well, and also to build on that, you know, do you think with all the institutional inflow
that we're actually going to see bear markets like we used to in the past?
I think it's going to be far less volatile.
But I think until proven otherwise, I think on the back of my mind,
I still believe that there will be an element of some cyclical behavior.
I just don't think it will be as drastic as what we've seen before.
And I also believe that some of these new crypto markets could be completely impervious
to traditional crypto winter-type behavior.
And that's actually what I'm looking for is,
is there sustainable revenue models that can circumvent
just an outright route in the market
because Bitcoin topped the cycles over,
we've had a mini alt season and everything.
I don't completely agree with that because in actual fact, we haven't even seen a traditional
alt season play out yet.
And whether or not that is even going to happen, I think it's happening in silos.
And I think it's because the market's maturing, the liquidity is richer and deeper than it's
ever been before.
And we've got this complete new market, which is institution.
And we've been asking for this for years, and it's finally here.
Love it.
Makes a lot of sense.
Makes a lot of sense.
CryptoG, what are your thoughts?
Do you have anything to add to that?
Yeah, I mean, I would agree with a lot of what Richard said.
But, you know, this cycle is different in the sense where it is a business cycle.
So, you know, in the previous cycles, we've had, you know, no monetary policies or very short period of times of monetary policies.
And this cycle has been a full business cycle, which obviously, you know, crypto has not fully seen a full business cycle.
And because of that, you know, it's been completely different.
And, you know, to the question you asked about a four-year cycle, you know, this cycle could last a lot longer.
It all depends on how they manipulate the data
because a lot of data is being manipulated in order to extend the cycle.
I mean, if you look at it from the macro perspective,
you know, it is starting to get a little bit better.
But, you know, it's not at a stage where, you know,
we could have a full old season.
And that's mainly because of what the Fed is doing.
As long as there's QT continuing,
the Fed is continuously draining liquidity out of the system,
whereas the government is,
because they're spending so much,
that's adding liquidity.
But to have a full old season,
I think there has to be some sort of end to QT,
or at least a pause.
Sometimes they pause in 2017,
they pause for a short period of time
and then they started it again
and then we went to a bear market.
So, you know, I think QT could potentially end this year
with, you know, the long-end-to-eal curve almost at 5%.
There's a lot of, you know, macro stuff that goes into it.
But I do think, you know, in terms of, you know,
I think it's been more of a trader's market
than just buying or holding.
I think if you're an altcoin specific investor and you have no Bitcoin in your portfolio,
I do think you have been, you know, your patience would definitely be tested.
You know, this is how the market normally works.
You know, to get an altseason, you have to spend a few years holding your tokens.
And then, you know, in two to three months, that's when you can make life-changing money.
But what we've seen now is, you know from 2023 to 2024 i think we had a fairly decent
sized alt season even though dominance did not drop as much but i think all the money that was
sidelined from 2020 2020 cycle all of that flew back in in 2023 and 2024 and we had a very decent
alt season even though dominance didn't drop but we haven't seen that yet.
You know, I think, you know,
all these institutions,
they're not coming to buy altcoins or anything.
They're buying Bitcoin, Ethereum specifically.
And I think because of that,
and because there's so much coins now,
you know, crypto now,
because we've got all these millions of meme coins
and altcoins,
it kind of works in narratives.
So the best way that I like to do
is I position myself in the
the best narratives you know my portfolio would be bitcoin high caps and then i'll have a decent
amount in in the low caps but i'll put them into the best narratives like defi gaming they've been
struggling for the last four years you know and put in large amounts of your money in in gaming
or defi you know it's not really worth you know know, you want to go into AI, RWA, these are the, these are where a lot of interest is, and obviously some meme coins, but
you know, meme coins is more like, in my opinion, is more gambling, you know, like if there's,
if there's a million meme coins launching a month, two or three or five might do well, but the reality
is there's millions over that just come on VoguePool, and the chances of you finding that two to five
out of the million
to make the life-changing money is going to be a very, very small percentage.
You know, you can go to the casino,
you might have better chances of finding it.
So unless you've got some sort of insider on some of these meme coins,
which a lot of it is insider trading.
But, you know, I think because it's a business cycle
and liquidity is spread across the crypto space,
most of the liquidity coming in is not going into altcoins.
It's going into Bitcoin, Ethereum.
I think what we need is we need an end to QT, even a pause to QT.
I don't think they'll end QT, but they will pause QT.
And the only way they'll do that is if inflation comes down to a reasonable level,
which I follow true inflation, which is a good metric to inflation tools you know it's a bit more up to date so if
you follow true relation you know last month inflation rose and then the following two months
it came it kind of came down so at the moment i think it's a 1.6 inflation so it's well below
the fed's target you know and i do think that will eventually get priced in as well so i think at the moment
people are still concerned on inflation but you know if you follow true inflation which i do i
think it is very up-to-date and you know a better metric than what the fed uses i think inflation
will come down over the next three months and we will most likely get you know two to three rate
costs this year and because of that you know i do think allcoins will perform this year. That's one of my best cases at the moment.
Okay, great.
And you kind of touched upon the next question as well.
So we'll ask that to you first, CryptoG, and then go on to Richard after.
What do you see the next three to six months looking like
the rest of this year, early next year for the crypto market?
And, you know, you touched upon altcoin season.
So are you basically saying that altcoin season has started it hasn't started i don't do you feel like
there's a lot more to come i think it is it's kind of starting up because you're seeing a little drop
in dominance and you know is it all like to do with money flow you know i think the traditional
money flow works very well it starts with bitcoin then the money flows into ethereum which we're
kind of seeing now and then eventually people will take some profits of Ethereum
and they'll move into the high caps.
And then the high caps take profits.
And I think the money will start to flow down.
But normally it happens very fast.
But because there's so much uncertainty happening every other week
with Trump saying something, tariffs, wars or whatever it is,
it kind of starts, stalls.
And then you need a catalyst you know
i think the catalyst has to do with the fed maybe it's a record maybe it's a post-acuity and i think
that will accelerate because there's like seven trillion dollars sitting in the money markets
right now and that's for risk off behavior eventually some of that money will flow into
risk on but those people need you know some sort of catalyst to to get really risk on which i don't
think we've seen just yet great insights makes perfect sense and over to you richard before you
answer that question about where you see the next um three to six months in your opinion obviously
we know nobody has crystal ball anything can happen as happen as critical you were saying there's so so many factors that will affect the market but just
before we get into what you see next three six months going into and obviously what you see um
the where we're at in the current state for alt season um you mentioned something previously and
that was quite interesting as well that you know the the cycles aren't going to be as regimented as they were before the bear
markets may not be as cold for certain um icos for certain projects and obviously just reminded
me of what we're doing at estatex and i just want to get your thoughts on um what we've been doing
to kind of make sure that we're positively performing in the bear market as you know
20 to 35 percent of our web 2 revenue of of our blockchain L1 revenue, is going to be flowing back into the ESX token as buybacks as well.
As we always say, you know, when the bear market comes, we're not worried because, you know, the world still keeps turning.
People still need to buy properties.
People still need to buy music.
People still need to go to sports games.
People still are using the data on their phones.
And because we're setting ourselves up for that worldwide success for that mass worldwide
adoption not just focusing on web 3.0 yes obviously we're big in web 3.0 but focusing
on the whole world including web 2.0 um you know having 25 to 30 um sorry having 20 to 35 percent
of that revenue flowing back into the token at all times meaning that we can be performing
positively in the bull market and also in a bear market in comparison to other tokens that may be slightly negative.
What are your thoughts on that? And do you think that more people may take note and you're going
to see more bear market proof tokens happening? And when we say bear market proof, we're always
going to have some effect on the bear market, but you know what I mean?
Tokens that can actually be setting themselves up for success throughout the bear market, not just within the bull market.
And what do you think about how EstateX has been set up
for that so far?
Yeah, I mean, that's a good question.
And certainly engineering your token method of buyback is smart.
I mean, I think first and foremost, you know,
my partner and I are businessmen before we are, you know,
crypto natives.
You know, we have other business interests.
We have bricks and mortar investments, traditional business,
property, you know, collectibles.
So we understand, you know, that you need a business first you know there's there's
two things here you if you're just talking pure speculation of the underlying token i think that's
that's just the wrong way of looking at it or thinking about it what you guys are building
here is a legitimate business with just so happens to be right now bricks and mortar but there's so
many other facets and layers to what what you guys are planning on doing um that that's the critical thing here is you know consistency
around bringing product to to your to your users making sure that there's always interesting
investments and try try and not focus on the fact that the market cycle might be coming to an end or perhaps there's been this rampant alt season.
If you fall into that trap and thinking, damn, we're doomed, alt season's over, we've got to pack it up and hope we can make our treasury count and last, I think that's the first mistake is that you really have to look way past that and have good business sense, good business acumen. And, you know, we
deal with a lot of founders. I think some of the most obvious things that we see is a lack of
experience, a lack of sweat, a lack of toil. And I can, you know, having spoken to you guys,
I think one of the things that stood out to me previously was how long you've been working at this in, you know, in, you know, I wouldn't say ghost mode, but, you know, in stealth.
And that for me is, is, is huge. I have, we have huge amount of respect for, um, founders that
actually sweat it for, for the large part. And I think that's a key part of this is you know what it takes to just, you know, continue.
You know, having spoken to you recently, I know that, you know,
you've got a very, very busy period coming up.
And that for me is massive.
You're going out looking to build new communities,
new geographical regions.
You're not sitting back and thinking, you know,
what do we do next?
And it's very, very proactive mindset.
And I think that's always going to lend itself to being successful.
You know, whether crypto goes into a mild winter as a result of perhaps some macro consequence,
remember, that's going to affect all risk.
It's not just going to be your project, Estatex.
It's going to be everybody's going to be incumbent to whatever the condition of the market is at the time. And you've just got to endure that and build through that.
So yeah, I like what CryptoG said. There's definitely some different nuances with this
particular cycle. I think we're very fortunate that we could see a very different season play out, period play out as a result of what a different landscape
we're in right now.
And I think it bodes well for any project that finds themselves
right now in the limelight, in the forefront,
in particular like with what you're doing with RWA
and capturing people's attention because everybody that comes to me that I know,
my circles are all saying, where do we look next? And for once, we've got real tangible options.
It's not just a white paper and an idea and a speculative play on a token. There's real
businesses with real revenue models that exist. And it definitely makes it easier when you're pointing people in the right direction.
Amazing.
No, and really, really appreciate the kind words and the recognition, Richard.
You know, like using the classic analogy of an iceberg, you kind of see the tip of the iceberg above the water. But you have most people have no idea what's going on and the amount of foundations, the amount of things and progressions that's been happening.
And that is happening currently behind the scenes.
There's so, so much that we're doing that we're going to be announcing very soon, that we're going to be announcing next quarter, you know, Q1.
But there's so much foundation that we're doing, guys, as well.
So it's like sometimes, you know, if you don't see us active within the community, it's because we're building, you know, people can attest, just like Richard,
it's because we're building you know people can attest just like Richard who are very very
accomplished who have really really done a lot of research into estatex and have grilled me and
Bartolome and have many long conversations and they understand the work that we're putting in
and they understand how seriously we're taking it how much we're sacrificing and how much goes into
this you guys are only seeing as we said the tip of the iceberg which is. It's really exciting because there's so, so much more to come.
And there's so much happening behind the scenes that we can't wait to share with you guys as well.
Amazing.
Let's have a look.
We're coming towards the end now anyway.
Obviously, if anybody in the community members have any questions, feel free to kind of put it into the chat on Twitter or on Telegram.
Yeah, I have a question.
And I'm really interested in Cryptuto G's answer on this.
And we'll make this a last type of question
before we round it off.
But G, I have a question for you.
So basically, obviously,
we've seen a lot of narratives play out, right?
We've seen a lot of gaming narratives. We had Deepin
narrative
earlier in
the year. We now have an RWA
narrative.
Obviously, if you've seen out the gaming narrative,
it's died down
for the most part.
It might make a run, but who knows?
But with RWA, I don't know
what it is. It seems to be something that is permanently here just because of the massive interest from institutions and then participating in it.
And what Richard said earlier, obviously, companies like Securitize, making massive deals with the likes of BlackRock, etc.
What do you think about, obviously, these crypto narratives and these hypes
that are around a certain category?
And how do you see like RWA eventually develop into that?
Do you think it's something that always will stay around
in a sort of a hype or prominent role?
Or what are your thoughts about that?
Yeah, but I think rwa will be a
lot bigger than people think i think we are you know literally in the early stages of starting
stages of rwa i don't think it's uh you know is that established yet i mean blackrock's goal is
to basically you know tokenize everything on the you know on the bonds you know i think it's uh
stocks everything you know so they want to tokenize everything
and i think you know we are at the early stages and i do think that will get bigger and bigger
i think even the next cycle i think rwa will be you know a very big thing you know i think at the
moment people are still speculative on rwa and i think the best thing about the rwa category or
narrative in crypto is you have you know other sectors are very very saturated you have you
know thousands of thousands of projects whereas in rwa you only have a very small handful of very
good projects and even the entire rwa space is probably no more than 200 projects you know and
that's very very good because you don't really have you have a very small portion to pick from
and you know it's easier to find the best ones you know instead of you know for example something like meme coins you got millions of them it's going
to be impossible to find even AI now AI was very very good you know in early stages it was very
speculative in in 2022 2023 and it blew up from then but even now there's you know there's thousands
of thousands of AI projects and it's hard to find the ones that are good and and can
get the hype you know so i think rwa is a lot smaller in that section and i think i think you
guys will do very very well in this space because you know like i said i think marketing is the best
utility and you guys are very very good at marketing and you guys have you know i'm proving
yourself that you have a working product which you know 99 of crypto projects don't even have that it's all hype you build you have a working product, which, you know, 99% of crypto projects don't even have that. It's all hype. You build, you have a concept, you build hype around
the concept. And then oftentimes, you know, the products either terrible or they never launch a
project and the project kind of dies. So you guys established in that sense. And I think you guys
will do very well in terms of, in the RWA space specifically. I appreciate that, brother. That sounds good. Very insightful as always. So yeah, let's
get to the last question for each of you. I'm going to ask Richard first, because I know that
you've got to jump in about five minutes or so. I know you've got another engagement. So Richard,
is there anything else that you want to say in regards to the market about estate tax or any
other closing statements?
Yeah, guys, I mean, I think consistency is the key to victory in anything.
Hard work always pays off.
I think immediately one of my first impressions was work ethic.
Just keep pushing.
It's such a noisy space.
I mean, we all suffer from shiny object syndrome.
And as long as you're just focused on the mission,
stay true to who you are. Don't get affected by the bright lights and the big cities.
And just try and keep your head down.
I think you're onto something fantastic.
You know, just looking at looking at overall, the branding,
the name, the market timing, the sector, it aligns really, really well. I'm not saying that
you're home and dry. The RWA sector is still fledgling. Particularly in crypto, if you look
at TVL, depending on which sectors you put in, but it is pure RWA, still a lot of work to be done.
But in saying that, I think the opportunity is wide open to take that lead.
And to your point, we'll be tracking your progress to your Q1 goal of being the market leader in this space.
And hopefully we can help you along the way, my friend.
Yeah, no, we appreciate that.
And, yeah, as you know, as we always say, like, even after launch,
as I mentioned in the previous Market Weekly with our guests
who called me privately and Bart as well just to congratulate us.
And, you know, our response is the same.
Like, you know, thank you.
Congratulations.
Yes, we're proud of what we've built so far, but the job's not done. The job's
already getting started. Launch is literally just the beginning and we are on a mission and we will
become the world leaders in RWA. We will become the main authorities within RWA and we have
everything in place. The roadmap, the team, the amazing community, shout out to the StateX family,
amazing launch partners and continued
collaborators like yourselves crypto g crypto around richard and many many more as well and
just the ecosystem of what we're doing with the roadmap and things that we're doing and just the
approach that we're taking we really do take it seriously because we know a really strong
rbway project is not just going to be great for us and our investors but it's going to be great
for crypto as a whole because we're going to be encouraging a lot more non-crypto
users, a lot more Web2 users to be coming into Web3 into something that's non-threatening,
something that's familiar in a way with our seamless transition from Web2 to Web3. So we
take it very, very seriously. It's a big responsibility, bigger than us, bigger than
our own community, there we say it. And yeah, as we've always said from the start, anybody who's
been a part of the status journey, the
narrative has not changed, we're on an epic journey
to make history and we're in the middle
of it now but we're
under no illusion that there's a lot
more to come, a lot more that we need to do
and as you said before, we're very hard working
we sacrifice a lot, we do so much
behind the scenes that a lot of people don't see
and we're going to continue to do that even more and especially now we're growing, we're growing
the team, growing our partners, we're just becoming stronger and stronger each day so very very
blessed to be a part of what we're doing, very very blessed for the journey so far and as we've
said before the job's not done and obviously blessed to have yourself Richard and yourself
as part of this epic journey as well.
There's going to be people in the next year or so talking back of what we were saying on this AMA and that came to fruition. There's going to be things that we said a year or two ago that's
come to fruition now. And we're here for not even just the next year. We're here for the years and
the decades to come. We want a state text to be a household name and beyond. So thank you for that,
Richard. Obviously, if you're at any
point richard we're going to go over to crypto g for his closing statements but any point richard
if you do need to jump off feel free to do that um crypto g same question over to you my friend
um any other closing statements anything that you want to say about the market or anything that you
haven't said or any of the things you'd like to say about the state yeah i would just like to say
you know in just the market perspective i think um it does require a lot of patience you know most people have never ever seen a business cycle and you know and and because
of the previous cycles where everything was a lot easier where you could just buy anything
and you know when the old season came you just made you know 50 100x your money obviously this
cycle is very very different liquidity has changed you know the monetary policy has changed so i
would be you know it does require a lot of patience
and i think people need to develop these patience to develop you know as an investor in general
you know because a lot of new people that come into the space they hear stories of some guy
making you know 50 into a million from a meme coin and they think that this happens across the
board it doesn't you know it takes time and you know the people that stay around long enough
in this space will always walk away with money you know the people that you know have or you know
don't ever invest more than you can afford to lose in any project you know that's i think if
you have that mindset and you do that you know and you have that as a as a strategy you will
always stay in this space a lot of people over invest because of the the stuff they hear online
you know whether it's uh like i said 50 into50 into a million. And they think if they put $5,000, they can make
it to $10 million. But the reality is that's never going to happen. So it does require
patience. And I think don't ever invest more than you can afford to lose because if you
over invest, you become very emotional. And in this space, there's so much manipulation
happening from exchanges, from VCs.
You know, the price will go up 5%, 10%.
And then, you know, Bitcoin will go up 5%.
And you'll come down 5%.
But your altcoins might go down 10%, 15%.
You know, from just how Bitcoin go up,
altcoins don't follow.
And then Bitcoin comes down,
your altcoins dumps even more.
So, and you know,
never ever bulk buy in this space as well.
I think slow DCA is the best approach.
And I think that's pretty much it.
I think it's a lot of patience now.
I think we are coming toward the end of the cycle.
So, you know, if you're planning on giving up,
I don't think it's the right time.
I think if you stick around for another six months,
you are going to see some good pumps across the board.
So, you know, that's pretty much it.
No, I really appreciate you.
Very, very wise words. I've definitely spoken from a man of
experience there, we can tell. And yeah, just to add to what you were saying, Cryptology, as well,
is just that, yes, it's great to see price action. Yes, it's good. And we're only human. We're going
to look at the charts day by day. We're going to look at the charts week by week. We're going to
make comparisons. We're going to be feeling great when it's moving up. We're going to be having some
questions when it's going down. But I just want to remind people that we're. We're going to be feeling great when it's moving up. We're going to be having some questions when it's going down.
But I just want to remind people that we're here on a mission to be the number one authority in Ardby Way.
You guys see the clear roadmap.
So after Q1, if you're not seeing what you're supposed to be seeing, then obviously feel free to have any sort of worries.
But really, just guys, just sit back.
You're in good hands and we're putting
all the pieces in place we cannot control what the market does on a day-to-day basis on a week
to week basis but what we can control is what we're doing the foundations we're laying partners
that we're doing the communities that we're onboarding the countries that we're traveling to
the the ecosystem that we're doing as well the blockchain the the launchpad, all of these other amazing, amazing pillars.
And most importantly, the users that are going to be coming onto this, the projects that we're
going to be onboarding onto the launchpad, the projects that we're going to be onboarding into
our innovative, unique L1 hardware blockchain as well, all of that volume that's going to be coming
through, not just from Estates, users, but from all these other people that are coming into this
one central place and then obviously utilizing percentage of percentage of that as buybacks as he has
said. All of that is in process. We're on track. We're ahead of schedule with a lot
of things. There's so many things that we're going to be announcing next week, the week
after, next month, next quarter. It's looking great, guys. So please always try to focus
on the bigger picture. And even though obviously us being stable between a five to six
x is fine and we're comfortable with that, the focus on what we're also building as well,
focus on how we're doing with the roadmap, focus on how closer we are getting becoming to that number
one spot in RWA because as CryptoG quite rightly said, look at all the other verticals, you see
the clear number ones, you see hundreds or thousands of competitors um who do you see that's number one in rwa who is that person that's that's
taking that spot in rwa it's a very hard question to answer it's wide open how many great rwa projects
are there out there it's very hard for people to kind of count more than on one or two hands type
of thing as well so the opportunity is there. We can see that window of opportunity
and we're about to literally dive through with both hands
and secure that window and never look back.
So, yeah, that's all for myself.
Bart, would you like to give some closing remarks?
Yeah, I mean, I always have this when you speak.
I can never top it up.
So I won't try to do it.
I'll just keep it at this, ladies and gentlemen.
In the next 20 to 30 minutes, something major will drop on all of our socials,
on the Telegram channel.
So make sure to stay tuned for that and prepare for that
because it will say a lot about where we're heading next.
And it's very very exciting
for us all. I can't say too much without spoiling too much so ladies and gentlemen a very big
announcement is coming very very soon so stay tuned for that and I'll keep it at that ladies
and gentlemen so make sure to stay tuned if you have any questions always active in the community
and keep an eye on the socials ladies and gentlemen. Thank you very much for tuning in.
It was a pleasure to speak in front of all of you.
And I see you next week at the next episode of the Aesthetics Market Weekly.
