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EstateX Market Weekly - With Tether Co-Founder Brock Pierce
Recorded: Aug. 19, 2025 Duration: 0:54:58Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, key figures from Estatex and Brock Pierce explored the exciting developments in the crypto space, including upcoming token launches, strategic partnerships, and the transformative potential of Real World Assets (RWAs). With growing government support and increasing market interest, the future looks bright for projects like Estatex as they prepare for significant expansions and innovations.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. . Thank you. Thank you. All right, all right, all right, ladies and gentlemen.
Great to see everybody tuning in on this fourth episode of the Estatex Market Weekly,
where we'll be discussing all kinds of things
happening within the market the vision of our of our guests the team and obviously some some
weekly updates and today is a very special episode because we got a very esteemed and special guest
on board here um tether co-founder and also our investor and also co-founder of DNA Fund who's also in the audience.
Jake how you doing good to see you as well. And before we dive into all the nitty-gritty of the
market and our guest Brock will be going over some usual Estatex weekly update. Obviously, as you know, last Friday we put a post out
about everything that's upcoming this week.
Yesterday we had a great AMA with our CTO
explaining about the L1 chain
and how it is appealing to both retail,
truly decentralized,
and how we're shaping the game here in RWA,
also regarding L1 chains.
And now it's also specialized for institutions
with things like inbuilt regulated tokenization compliance,
and also for different geographical asset classes,
all kinds of L1 chains unified by a laser settlement chain.
So if you haven't seen that,
make sure to go to our page, scroll down,
and there's an hour-long
ama of yesterday where graham will go into all the nitty-gritty and all the details there
but obviously also later this week many things upcoming such as a couple of dates for
centralized exchange listing which is very exciting and the community obviously has been
waiting for so stay tuned for that later this week when we're going to announce the dates around that.
And obviously, as you know, we're also now working very hardly when we launched the professional investor entry last week for the EU,
but also worldwide where professional investors are able to get guided by CEO Steve Craig,
former CEO of Remax England and Wales,
obviously with billions of dollars of property deals under his belt, and to get your entry into
special hands-on guidance for very yielding assets, also assets that we will be working
together with, with DNA Fund to promote, as you know, and a couple of other great things upcoming
later this week. so make sure to
stay tuned for that because obviously we'll also be added to the korea blockchain week
speakers list we'll be giving a keynote about estatex to the big korean audience and much much
more you will hear marketing updates around that as well and as our entry into the korean market
where obviously also dna will be present and also things like the Unicorn Club will be there as well.
So lots of things upcoming this week, lots of progressions,
and obviously, as you know, with upcoming property sales,
there's lots of happening within the Stadex world
and everything that's upcoming.
So very, very exciting when we announce the date as well
of our platform launch for the EU and our next offering for the US side as well.
But ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, we have a very, very special and esteemed guest today.
But first of all, nothing could be happening here without our esteemed co-host, Steve.
Steve, how are you doing today?
I'm very good, Bart. I'm very good.
Busy as always, but busy is good. As I always say, it's better to be too busy than too quiet. How are you doing today? I'm very good, Bart. I'm very good. Busy as always, but busy is good.
As I always say, it's better to be too busy than too quiet.
How are you doing?
Down for playing, as always.
And most importantly, how is our extra special guest,
Brock, doing?
How are you doing, Brock?
Thanks for coming on.
Oh, Brock, you're on mute.
I'm here.
Well, grateful to be with you guys.
Congratulations on all the success that ESX is having and excited to participate in this
X basis.
Well, you've been a big part of that success, being our lead investor and one of our main advisors.
And we've had such amazing calls with you, weekly calls with you leading up to launch, post-launch.
And obviously, your mentorship, your experience obviously has been invaluable.
And obviously, as you know, this is just the beginning.
So thank you for obviously all the support that you've done so far.
And obviously, you know, all the support and everything that we're about to do together.
It's a really, really exciting journey
and obviously blessed to have somebody like yourself on board,
especially now with DNA as well, which is also phenomenal.
So, yeah, so everybody obviously knows who Brock Pierce is
and co-founder of UCT.
But some people may not know about Brock's background
and actually how it got started.
He leads, he has led such an interesting life from being a childhood superstar actor in the cult classic
movie Mighty Ducks to being a young tech entrepreneur as well.
So Brock, for those who don't know, can you tell everybody a little bit about your journey,
how you got started way before, obviously, up until you
becoming this amazing force we reckon with in crypto, but that journey from start coming
up to crypto and the lessons that you learned along the journey to kind of that formed you
into the first level of work.
Well, I'm originally from Minnesota. I got an early start in life.
I began working professionally at the age of three.
I was making commercials principally, playing Mario and the Nintendo commercials.
And I was an underwear model, not quite Calvin Klein.
I was a kid on the walls of Target for Fruit of the Loom and things of that nature.
My first memory in life takes place on a set making a commercial for the radio, a television commercial advertising the radio.
It was called Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys.
And like a lot of kids from Minnesota, I grew up playing hockey.
And like a lot of kids from Minnesota, I grew up playing hockey.
And so when Disney came to town to make The Mighty Ducks, I booked my first movie, made a few more movies, every movie that came through Minnesota.
Disney brought me to California to shoot Mighty Ducks 2, which led to my moving to Los Angeles, where I continued to make more movies and more movies.
But, you know, I didn't choose to be an actor.
I just kind of was born into it.
And at 15, 16, I just, this didn't feel like my calling.
I was really entrepreneurial, very Tom Sawyer-like.
And, you know, I wanted to become a producer.
I wanted to, you know, start making the movies rather than being the actor in them.
And then also having been a byproduct of the first generation of kids with computers and internet connections,
I saw how the internet was transforming the world we lived in.
And so at 16, I officially quit acting. I did my last movie for Billy Graham. It was a charitable film called The Ride. And we were working on user-generated content, licensed and
repurposed content. So eventually what kind of became YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, but this is 1997,
1998, 1999. Broadband penetration didn't roll out at the rates that people forecast. And if you're not old enough to remember, we also had the dot-com bust in the spring of 2000 that put 99% of all businesses on the Internet out of business.
And so we were right about the idea.
We were probably 10 years too early, but the team went on to pioneer much of the transformation of media.
And I left this reality. I went and moved into the metaverse, what we called back then as
massively multiplayer online games for anyone that's ever played World of Warcraft, EverQuest,
Lineage, Diablo, Ultima, Second Life, so on and so forth, Final Fantasy XI.
And I ended up becoming the main market maker for digital currencies in online worlds.
I built up a team of about 400,000 people in China that would play games professionally
to mine digital currencies.
I was PayPal's largest merchant for years.
I was instrumental in launching Alipay.
I rolled up South Korea, had 40% of the population as our customers.
I had 97% market share.
I was doing a billion a year just in Korea throughout my 20s.
I was Goldman Sachs Principal Strategies' first private investment.
I was Goldman Sachs Principal Strategies' first private investment.
They took a look at the work that we were doing in thousands of effectively virtual countries and how we were managing economic markets.
We were, you know, teaching, you know, this was a place where if you were an economics student,
we were able to test economic theories and play around in ways that you can't in the
real world. So helping tenure professors and all sorts of stuff, which is naturally what led me
to cryptocurrency, you know, having been very involved in cross-border payments and making markets and intangible assets. And so I ended up full time in this business,
which really became, I'd say, this industry really took off in its first wave in 2013.
And so in 2013, I was starting a new company probably every 60 days.
Eventually, I had started so many businesses that I couldn't manage anymore.
And then I started Blockchain Capital, the first venture capital fund in this space, which is one of the most successful venture firms of all time.
I left when we launched our third fund, which we invented the security token with BCAP, the first security token.
But some of the other businesses that I'd gotten involved in or started, I was chairman of MasterCoin.
We invented the ICO in the summer of 2013.
Started Tether USDT.
Started the first crypto bank.
I started the first crypto bank, was elected and made chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation.
Was elected and made chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation.
First security token, the first two NFT platforms were created in my living room.
I co-founded Block One, which became bullish, which just went public for $14 billion last week.
I was one of the first founding advisors to BitGo, which were Elon Musk, David Sachs, Jeff Skoll, and myself.
But we funded Coinbase,
Kraken. I mean, I've been involved in much of the industry's development and more than just
investing, starting and advising the development of businesses. I've been a very active evangelist
to the industry for a very long time, educating governments all over the world. I ran for president of the United
States in 2020 as an independent candidate, building out the independent infrastructure
that Kennedy was then able to run on. Led the first delegation into El Salvador to assist
President Bukkeli with the implementation of the Bitcoin law. And I work with probably a third of the world's nations
and help inform them not just about this technology,
but innovation in general.
And the powerful tool it is for transformation in these times.
And grateful to have been supporting EstateX since early on.
It's been a long journey.
And again, congratulations. You're out, you're live and off to the races and in a market where, you know, timing is everything.
You know, most of my success I would attribute to God first and foremost, but a lot of it is being in the right place at the right time.
place at the right time. And what a time to be alive and to be working in this business.
If you'd been in this business in the earlier years, you know, this was a high risk industry.
You know, most every major player that was high profile, you know, ended up with problems with
the government. Or even if you were just buying and selling crypto, you were a victim of
Operation Chokepoint 2..0 you were debanked
because uh you know the government decided we were a bad industry um but not anymore it's uh
we were no longer in the uh uh the days of darkness uh it's like from day to night or night to day
you know we have a government now and governments around the world that are no longer fighting us, but supporting us, working with us to allow this incredible technology to bring trust, transparency and efficiency and accessibility to the world.
And industries like RWAs and real estate largely depend upon government sentiment.
And you guys couldn't have timed it better.
So congratulations on being in the right place at the right time for an industry that is clearly when its time has come, which now stands to make the world a better place.
So I'm grateful to be involved and, you know, glad to have timed it right.
100%. We appreciate the kind words
and also appreciate the breakdown of your history as well.
There's obviously so many successful people in crypto,
but there's a lot of people that got successful
because they rolled a crypto wave, you know,
but there's a few people in crypto
that have really had massive success before crypto, really had great business success, great entrepreneurial success, great life success before crypto as well.
So I really felt important that you share that story with the community just so that they understand that.
Yes, obviously, you are Brock Pierce. Yes, you are Brock Itfuel. Yes, you are the co-founder of usdt but you're so so much more than that as
well and the value that you can bring in the experience and knowledge that you have
it's just second to none that just shows if you're accolades in your life experience
um so yeah i remember obviously you say timing is everything and even before
um you know when we first met a couple of years ago um i know that obviously you've been circling
around rb ways you've been circling around having a look at tokenization real estate and i know that obviously you've been circling around R&B Wage, been circling around having a look at tokenization real estate.
And I know that you said no to a lot of projects and you just said the market wasn't ready.
And fun fact for the listeners, you actually said initially,
indirectly said no to estate tech at first as well.
You know, you said it's like, you know, you've seen it before, tokenized real estate.
Well, yeah, and I can weigh in on that.
So, you know, as I guess the person
that's likely most credited with having created the security token, I'd also like to give credit
to Dr. Patrick Byrne of overstock.com with T0, who I also advised and worked closely with. And
I was just with Dr. Patrick Byrne at Ron Paul's 90th birthday. Always good to see him.
He was the first big company in the world to support us and to believe in us.
And not just by accepting Bitcoin as a payment method, but invested heavily in the industry's development.
There's a lot of people you can make money off of having speculated and believed in crypto, but it's another thing to have been a builder. You know, it's not a building and not built, not building is never easy. It involves blood, sweat and tears and sleepless nights and it makes it very hard on all your relationships, especially if you're an entrepreneur, it doesn't come easy. And so I watched the
security token market, you know, begin, which is the basis of tokenizing, you know, stocks, bonds,
but eventually all other, you know, sort of assets like real estate. And the reason I took an
interest, I said, I'm not sure if the timing is right, because this market has been developing
incredibly slowly. And it is going to require a lot of support from, you know, the market structure folks.
And this is before the Black Rocks and all of that had come in.
So that all went very well.
But I one of the other things I've done is I've invested in a lot of real estate, buying
hotels and otherwise.
And so my interest in getting involved here was still skepticism about timing. Fortunately, that all worked out well. But in general, I was,
you know, just as someone that is heavily invested into real estate and development,
I was interested in working with guys to further explore the thesis and see what I could do to
help bring trophy assets or bring the sort of
things that could help the market with its development. Now, fortunately, we've gotten so
lucky that we've got wind at our back right now, but that still doesn't mean slow down.
You still have to do all the great things to make sure that EstateX is a winner in this market.
100% is still very early stages. And I remember the conversation as well. And I remember
as having that initial conversation with you and you had that level of healthy skepticism,
like a lot of people. And it was only scheduled to be like a 15, 20 minute call. And it ended up
being an amazing conversation. It went over like two hours. And one of the things that you said
with us that really resonated us, Brock, and motivated us And one of the things that you said with us that really resonated us, Brock, and motivated
us was one of the things that you saw in EstateX and with what we said and our vision in comparison
to others out there is that we have purpose and that you only invest in companies and
businesses that have purpose.
And you liked our vision.
You liked our drive.
You liked the purpose with what we're building from leveling the playing field, with what
we're doing later this year with the financial literacy, and with just obviously just the direction that we're going with with tokenized real estate.
So that's something that really stuck with us.
Yeah, and then, you know, it's certainly probably worth talking a little bit about what I'm doing
now, which is on the DNA front and, you know, glad that, you know, DNA has gotten involved as well.
You know, we're very active in the asset management space.
We operate a number of funds.
We're market makers.
We work with custodial banking.
We work with broker-dealers.
We host great events for any of you guys on the crypto circuit.
I mean, circuit.
And you guys also got to come on our new TV show, Crypto Nights, which is also a DNA project that we're proud and grateful to support.
100% sounds great.
So let's get into some of these questions as well.
I was going to ask about DNA.
I know that you're about to be speaking with Jake.
Are you about to be publicly listed or have you been publicly listed?
I know it's coming up, right?
I don't know what I'm allowed to say right now. You probably can infer from that
everything you want to know. All right, sounds good. Bart, do you want to jump
onto the next question? Yeah, absolutely.
Obviously, we know the history with RWAs
and the development which you just spoke about, about how it was slow, etc., etc., the development in the first few years when it became upcoming or topic or known that the possibilities were out there. place and obviously the governments being favorable towards RWA's tokenization and we
see a lot more governments adapt to it and the possibilities and obviously the institutions
like BlackRock taking place in it.
Obviously, we know now that it's going to be the next big thing, the next big sector
and the transformational potential that it has for the financial industry as a whole.
How do you look against the development
of RWA? So where do you think it's going to end? And first and foremost, I think the most
important thing, what is the potential here of the RWA space and what place it's going to take
in the crypto slash Web3 sector as a whole? Well, so first of all, one of the things that this technology is doing is, right,
it's making the cost and the accessibility change. So think about real estate as an asset,
one of the biggest markets in the world, but at the same time, not the most liquid of asset.
Obviously, if you want
to sell at a deep enough discount, you can normally liquidate anything quickly, but that's not what
anybody wants, right? So, fractionalized ownership, you know, is another interesting sort of approach,
which is, you know, you can go buy into ETFs, you can go buy into REITs. And there are ways to be able to access real estate. So
there are products in the market for smaller investors to be able to get exposure to the
asset class. But that's limited to certain geographies and also without a lot of granular
detail. I think that there's tremendous opportunity there for investors to be able to participate and a platform provider, in your case, to be the enabler and, you know, bring liquidity in theory to a market, which in and of itself, you know, if the real estate market had greater liquidity,
you'd ultimately see the prices in real estate rise, which is a positive thing for the overall
market as well. So I know that this is an inevitable outcome. It's not so much a matter of
if, but more a matter of when and by whom. And it certainly feels to me strongly that we're at the beginning of the when, right? The time is now.
But the question is, how fast is, you know, does it develop?
How fast does this become granular exposure to and in what markets?
And I'd love for you to talk about it.
Certainly becoming more global.
Cap rates vary tremendously by regions.
Obviously, Europe's interest rates are at 2%. Here in the U.S., we're at 6%, 7%.
And depending upon markets,
obviously rule of law matters as well.
Being able to get exposure and bring opportunity to people so that they can find those best possible markets, I think, is as me as an investor, something I'm interested in.
100 percent. It's extremely, extremely interesting time.
time and as you mentioned it's well well well within its infancy as I always use the the analogy
And as you mentioned, it's well, well, well within its infancy.
that if you walk out into the streets of multi-tacenters right now and ask 100 random people
of all ages are you currently invested in crypto altcoins you're still going to have the vast
minority I'm saying yes there's still so many more people to get into crypto and get into blockchain
and we believe that RWA is going to be um that cherry popping
narrative that that ease of use that situation where people can actually get into crypto that's
less threatening and they understand it is real estate it's real world assets as opposed to having
to really kind of like throw themselves into the whole crypto minefield as well so rwa done correctly
will be responsible for bringing in a whole new wave of new crypto
investors as well.
And we're very proud to be at the forefront of that.
And also looking forward, as you mentioned, DNA, we're looking forward to obviously, you
know, some of the DNA roadshows, the Asia tours that's happening as well, South Korea,
Singapore as well.
Where are you going to be?
We have, I think, WebEx, Japan, Tokyo is this next week.
Then there's Korea Blockchain Week.
There's Token 2049 Singapore.
Which of those are you going to be attending?
So we're definitely going to be.
We may have a representative in Japan.
We're just finalizing that.
But 100% we're going to be, myself and Bart, are going to be attending South Korea.
We're definitely going to be attending Singapore as well.
And a lot of the following ones after that as well.
So really looking forward to that for speaking.
And obviously the introductions that you guys made
in the previous one that we went to
was absolutely phenomenal.
So we can only imagine what it's going to be like in Asia as well.
So looking forward to joining you guys out there.
Well, looking forward to having you.
Yeah, for any of those that do make the conference circuit,
definitely try and find your DNA house.
100% definitely.
Right, so let's talk about the current state of the market at the moment.
I'd love to pick your brain because this cycle is obviously different than any of the cycle previously um how would you how would would you compare this cycle to
the previous cycles and what stage and what um yeah what stage would you say the current market
is at at the moment how would you evaluate where the current market is at at the moment
well it seems that we're breaking uh historical cycle right now, and that's because of how mainstream this is becoming.
I mean, what we're going through is unlike anything that we've seen before.
I mean, we're in the phase of government adoption, public markets adoption.
adoption, public markets adoption. I mean, like right now, I'd say the reason for ICOs is there
was no venture capital to fund this industry in the early days. Venture capitalists,
you know, for the most part, wouldn't fund anything in this industry.
So how, you know, the ICO was a necessity, a necessary invention to allow those that believed in an idea to be able to contribute
resources to it. You know, that was needed then. Obviously now, you know, major financial
institutions and most venture capitalists are willing to look at this industry at this point,
major family offices, your biggest financial firms in the world, banks and otherwise.
So the capital markets are open.
The public markets are opening.
I mean, I'd say the ICO today is an IPO.
And what you're watching happen is, for those that are old enough to remember Linux and
Red Hat, you know, we created foundations for most of these projects, you know, in friendly
of these projects in friendly jurisdictions, now that we're welcome everywhere, we're wanted
jurisdictions.
everywhere, how is that changing things? And what that's doing is it's opening up the world's
capital markets. You're seeing all these treasury companies go public. Those treasury companies are
training at a premium to NAV. To maintain that premium to NAV, they're going to effectively have
to become the for-profit sort of versions of what Joe Lubin did with ConsenSys and Ethereum. They're going to
have to effectively become the red hats of their respective protocols. You know, that's the main
focus of what's going on in the market today. But, I mean, we're seeing capital flow in in ways that we've never seen before. So I don't expect the historic pattern to repeat itself right now.
Very interesting.
I mean, it's as exciting as it gets.
I mean, most importantly, you know, for the pioneers, you know, we'd have to go to bed at night, you know, worried about our futures.
You know, now we can all sleep well at night and build, you know, worried about our futures, you know, now we can all sleep well at night and
build, you know, build with confidence and build with build knowing that we have, you know,
government that supports what we do. Thank God. So building on to that, you know, obviously,
you know, in your opinion, you think that, you know, this cycle is obviously going to be vastly
different and we're not going to have the historical pattern of that four-year cycle
um obviously it's uh it's a little bit like how how long is it being string obviously but what
how do you think this is going to play out
i i try not to predict the two the future too much i i tend to build it where the risk is mine
i i try not to to tell people what the
market's going to do. I learned this a long time ago in my youth when I would give people stock
tips in my teenage years. Whenever I made the money, maybe I'd get a thank you. Whenever they
lost money, they blame you. And so as you'll probably notice, you can go back and watch every
interview and every speech I've ever given.
I've never encouraged people to invest in Bitcoin or any of this.
I've only encouraged you to buy $100, $50, $20, $10, not as a financial investment, but an investment in yourself, an investment in your own knowing so that you can make informed decisions for yourself.
You know, the things I can say are clearly the climate and environment is different. We have the world's, you know, we've, we have
government behind us and the biggest financial institutions in the world supporting it. And for
things like RWAs, you know, that will be essential. You know, the, it's, this is happening. And the likelihood of it not happening is extremely low.
The question is not so much if, it does feel like when, and then by whom.
And it will be competitive.
There are going to be a number of people that are going to pursue this market opportunity.
Some that are native crypto, some that are outsiders.
I tend to bet on native.
You know, and the question is, how does the market develop?
And, you know, I'm just excited to be in the trenches again with you guys helping to build this future market.
And and again, as you pointed out, because you're doing it with a purpose.
You know, you're trying to bring financial literacy to the people, help them understand how to create their own financial freedom, which I think is a great thing for society.
Couldn't agree more. Couldn't agree more.
Couldn't agree more.
And going back to the cycles, potentially, do you think potentially the bear market could
be have less of an impact of the previous bear market, could be less serious than previous
than previous bear markets or could be a shorter time period?
bear markets, or could be a shorter time period?
So, I mean, because of the capital inflows, I don't think that the – and the scale of maturity, I don't think so.
I think that we're going to see less extremes, but I can't tell you that certainty.
Of course.
And then there are – what are the black swan events, right?
you know, what are the black swan events, right? Whether it be quantum, quantum is obviously,
you know, one of the big discussions around is Shoff 256 get broken. But then again, also,
there's still war in the world. There are a number of things that could still rain on our parade.
But I think that because of the amount of capital that's flowing into the market,
it should bring greater efficiency. And we should see probably, I don't expect to see the same sort of extreme bear markets
that we've experienced, you know, in the last four year cycles.
That's really good to know. I mean, that's kind of like the vibe that we're getting as
well. Like it's just completely different to anything that's happened before. As you say,
it's an exciting time and just progressions the governments the the capital inflow yeah it's
looking very very bullish very very bullish so yeah so wanting to ask about the property side
of things as you mentioned you know one of your main reasons obviously many reasons for getting
involved with estate tax for personal reasons is that you have a phenomenal property portfolio from historical buildings to
revenue generating buildings to things that have a great story as well. Tell us a bit about your
property portfolio as well and which types of properties are you looking to be tokenized on
the estatex platform? We're in a number of real estate sort of assets i i live in puerto rico and so
i'm heavily invested into puerto rican real estate um mostly uh hospitality um
but um a number of things in in puerto rico uh i'm'm focused a lot right now on affordable housing.
Affordable housing is, you know, continues to be much needed.
But, you know, I'm broadly invested into real estate. It's not where I'm going to
wave my flag and say, look at my extraordinary success. But I'm heavily invested and, you know,
continue to get better, you know, at the work that I do. And so that's why I'm working with
you guys. That was the original impetus is I'm heavily invested in real estate. So I
want to figure out how to innovate within the world of real estate.
Now, amazing.
Well, I know that we're having lots of discussions
and had lots of discussions
and we'll continue with some amazing discussions
with your property team.
And yeah, I won't obviously speak to you too much,
but yeah, you do have some very, very interesting developments
and some great stories behind them.
And then we can't wait to bring them to the world as well.
So we look to continue those conversations and yeah and create those win-win situations as well.
Brock, before we round up, did you have anything else that you wanted to ask,
to say, to share with the community or any closing remarks?
Well, I think, you know, like everyone here, I want to hear from you the exchange listings and those dates as soon as you're ready to share them.
And then, you know, when we connect privately, I want to talk about timeline for, you know, when we can start bringing, you know, what I think are interesting deals onto the platform.
what I think are interesting deals onto the platform,
specifically deals that I think will create a lot of earned media,
high profile deals that will help educate and inform the market.
And that's the stuff that I'm excited to do with you.
100% likewise.
We're equally as excited and can't wait to obviously get you more involved
with the education side of things,
the financial literacy side of things, the estate tech uni,
something that's very close to my heart and something that's very close to your heart as
well. I know when I flew out to meet you in Puerto Rico and to close the deal, that was one of the
things that we resonated with as well, education and obviously just what you do from a philanthropic
point of view as well in Puerto Rico and worldwide is very admirable. I meet people in the UK and mentioned about estate techs, mentioned about obviously having
you on board and like, oh yeah, well, he came and spoke at my university.
We came out to Oxford and did this and that.
And everyone's already talking about how you are as a philanthropist as well.
And obviously that really resonates with the vision that we have with estate tech.
So yeah, can't wait to get you more involved with the university side of things and the
education side of things as well, because I know that's right up your street.
Well, I'm looking forward to all of it.
All right. Sounds good. Bart, any,
any final questions for you or any closing remarks?
Yeah. I want to thank everyone for tuning in today. I'm sure
we have lots lots more coming up for you guys also with obviously the
involvement of Brock, many more spaces with DNA Brock, Jake and the team. So
Brock, I know you need to catch a flight so we'll hold you up much longer. Thank
you for participating, really, really appreciate it.
For everyone that tuned in today, please make sure to retweet the space, leave a comment,
make sure to share it with your friends, some real knowledge and alpha has been dropped here.
And I want to thank everyone for tuning in today.
We'll be giving lots, lots more updates this week very exciting stuff um about the exchange
listening and also other other things that are upcoming and obviously after that looking forward
to the launch of the platform and everything else that's upcoming of which you hear you will hear a
lot more as well so ladies and gentlemen without further ado i want to thank you very much for
tuning in and we'll see you on the next one. Cheers. Thank you. Cheers, Brock. Thanks,
the Statex family.
