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ETHOS x Searchfi
Recorded: May 7, 2025 Duration: 0:59:51Space Recording
Short Summary
Ethos is launching a groundbreaking project aimed at enhancing trust in the crypto space, backed by 60 angel investors and addressing the alarming trend of scams that cost users over $9 billion annually. With a focus on community-driven growth, Ethos is set to revolutionize how users interact with crypto projects.
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Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Hey yo! okay okay see you bye bye
what was that bye bye that's the transition apple saying bye to people
just to curious if you guys were worried like curious
what was that that's the transition way apple saying bye to people bye bye
yeah all right uh mic check one two one two uh welcome fellas uh Looks like we have 42 people started joined. Thank you, thank you. And I see more people coming in. Great, great. Let me just give them a couple minutes and we are studying our AMA very shortly.
스페이스 진행을 맡은 EatBanana 입니다.
늦은 시간에 참여해주신 여러분들 다시 한번 감사 말씀 전하고 싶습니다.
게스트분들이 다 참여하시는 대로 바로 AMA도 진행할 수 있도록
스페이스 진행할 수 있도록 하겠습니다. All right, let's see.
Do we have everybody ready?
Let me see.
Avi.
Ooh, we got Avi as a speaker.
What a special guest.
Can you hear us?
Mic is good?
Awesome, great.
And we do have our main guest here itos project calls e-t-h-o-s itos uh we have a serpene that's how i can now call your name boss good morning how's it going hey
morning morning what's up what's up since you morning, that means you're in a different time zone. Where are you at?
Yeah, I'm in Austin, Texas. It's 930 a.m. here.
Oh, we got Texas cowboy here.
Hell yeah.
Oh, shit. What's up? I'm in the U.S. East Coast. I'm a Jersey boy.
Love it.
Dang. Nice, nice, nice.
I did ride my horse to work today, actually.
I did my boots off and holstered my weapon and sat down at my desk to do this space.
Oh, shit.
Yee-haw!
Yee-haw!
Damn, nah, because I work with three Texas boys in my work, so I kind of learning you guys are like a little bit of Kirtchall.
I love it.
Awesome. Awesome.
All right. I think we got enough people joined.
So I think we could go ahead and start.
Once again, thank you so much for your valuable time today.
I am E-Banana.
I'm a CMO in Searchfy
Honored to host this beautiful AMA today
It's pretty much simple
I could translate back your English to Korean
We do have a lot of Korean audience here tonight
So I will definitely translate back to Korean
So they can understand your projects more better.
That makes sense?
Amazing.
Awesome.
All right.
Here we go.
Then let's have some fun here.
All right.
So please, before we start, introduce yourself to our audience here tonight.
Hey, everyone.
Yeah, my name is Serpentax here in Web3.
I'm the CEO and co-founder of Ethos.
I have a background in building products in Web2 and about a year ago I switched over to building this product called Ethos.
Super excited to share more with you about it today and talk about why I think Ethos is going to be potentially one of the most important products of the next couple years in crypto.
Awesome. Thank you.
Serpentax, Ethos, Co-founder.
I'm currently in Austin, Texas, and I'm currently in the United States.
I've been in the past 1 years since I've been in the web2 and web3 since I've been in the web2. 미국에 거주하고 있고요. 웹2에서 웹3로 전향을 하신지는 한 1년 조금 넘게 이렇게 돼 있습니다.
오늘 이 자리에 참여해서 반갑다고 했고
이토스가 왜 중요한지 앞으로 향후 몇 년 동안
왜 이렇게 자기네 프로젝트들이 어떠한 포텐셜이 있고
왜 어떠한 중요한 키 역할을 할 건지 and how important the projects are and how important the key roles are.
We also joined this to be here today.
Alright. Before we move on to some of the questions that we prepare,
please give them a warm welcome.
We have a special guest, AHBI, Abby.
Some of the people you guys already know, some of the people you might be new.
So please, please introduce yourself to the space audience today.
Jim, can you hear me?
Yeah, we hear you, boss.
Cool. So my name is Appy. You may know me as Apple's best friend and that's all.
Yeah, nice to be here. I do a few things. I like using Ethos. I've used it for an extensive
period of time but introduction wise I'm just Appy just Apple's best friend. Nice to be here.
Ah, you don't need to be shy. What do you mean you just say Apple's best friend? 우리 서치파운더 서치파이의 파운더님이시죠 애플님의 가장 친한 친구로
또 많이 기억을 하고 있는 분도 있으신데
AP 컬렉티브라는 웹들이 전문 마케팅
그리고 성장 전략 컨설팅 회사 리더이십니다
단순한 그냥 애플이라는 파운더의 친구는 아니고요
AP 컬렉티브라는 웹들이 전문 마케팅
그리고 성장 전략 컨설팅 회사의 니더이십니다
그래서 활발한 웹들이 활동을 하고 계시고요
또 많은 영향력을 가지고 계신
그런 또 중요한 초대 손님입니다
그래서 그냥 너무 겸손하게 소개를 해주셔서
그냥 추가 설명을 해드렸습니다
좋습니다.
메인 질문을
한번 물어보기 전에
지금 아비 분이
이토스 이코시스템이
아마 제가 알기로는 상위 랭커예요.
제가 알기로는
전체 랭킹 탑5
제가 알기로는
3등? 2등? 3등? 이렇게 해서 평판 점수가 상당히 높으신 분이신데
이 분이 지금 또 에프토스에서 엄청난 활약을 하고 있으시고 지지도를 받고 있는데
이 분의 개인적인 생각을 한번 여쭤볼게요 Question I have a question for you. I'll be um I think you are as you mentioned you've been using episodes for
Quiet while now, right? And then I believe that you're one of the top lanker. Oh
Can you share your thoughts about the apples?
I can't really hear you, but I think you asked for my thoughts on the ESOS app, is that correct?
Yeah, because since you're ranked in a very high ranking right now, I believe you're like top three or top four, a high rank in that ecosystem.
So just want to ask your thought and how you think it's going to work in a Web3.
and how do you think it's going to work in a Web3?
Yeah, so this is kind of like my updated thoughts on Ethos.
I think it's a really good platform when it comes to actually being able to understand,
to some extent, some under-facting characteristics that contribute to credibility and reputation,
how connected someone is, how much value that they've been able to provide
to other people, if they're trustworthy,
if they're not trustworthy.
And I think those are all things
which Ethos has done a really good job on.
My personal experience with Ethos was like super active
in the first month from there, not using the app too much,
but using it more as an aggregator for data.
And what I mean by that is I think the inclusion of like third-party leaderboards
like Fantasy Top and some others and being able to understand
how active some of these people are on a platform like this
has been extremely valuable.
And I think for me specifically, I personally just like the ethos APIs.
I'm not using the app too much, but I use it as a good source of data
and process it pretty regularly.
So I guess you could kind of say
that I've transitioned from like a user
to like now a consumer of the app
and like focus on more like from a B2B perspective.
As I think like logging in from like
on like a daily or like regular basis,
there's no incentive or upside to
do so as you mentioned like pretty high ranked up and i'm doing literally nothing to push my
own account but i'm using it as like uh essentially in the similar way that i may use um nansen for
example thank you i really appreciate your thought and really really appreciate you sharing your
experience i think that helps really a lot for the audience because, you know, you're a very known Web3 person.
And then, you know, there's going to be not many people will have opportunity to hear directly from the person like you that giving yourself thought.
It's plain to the audience that how your thought was, you see some usage on and value, which is really great. 그 자신의 생각에 대한 설명을 전해드리고
어떤 유사와 가격을 보여주신 것 같다는 것입니다.
감사합니다. 지금 하고 있으신데 개인적으로 이분이 이 에토스를 쓰실 때는
이제 이 웹사이트 전반적인 웹사이트에 나와 있는 이런 평판들
그리고 이제 사람들의 활동 그리고 이 사람들이 올리는 그런 글들을
좀 확인할 수 있는 이런 목적으로 좀 사용을 하신다고 말씀을 많이 해주셨어요
이거에 전부 다 기대고 이거에 전부 다 이제 기반을 해서 무조건 이걸 어떻게 보면 맹신하는 건 아니지만
이 웹사이트를 통해서 이 사람들이 활동을 하고 있는 것들 그리고 이 사람들이 주목하고 있는 것들
그리고 이제 그 사람들마다 어떤 평판을 갖고 있는지 이런 것들에 대해서 어떻게 보면 하나의 리뷰하는 툴로 사용을 하신다고 and how people have a good rating. You can use it as a review tool.
I think it's easy to explain.
Okay, Avi, you raise your hand, buddy.
Yeah, just like one last thing I wanted to mention before, Dave.
Directly to Serpent,
congratulations on being number one on the Kaido leaderboard for China
I think that's pretty impressive
I didn't see you guys highlight it
but I think that was pretty cool
so yeah you guys are crushing it
and yeah
hope you have a good rest of your AMA
and you're able to kind of educate
the Korean audience on what it is
that you're building
and yeah hope you take care
and are doing well as well.
Thanks, man.
Appreciate it.
Awesome.
I like that.
Little shout out from Avi.
And then, yes,
I really do also congrats, Serpin,
that you did a great job
linking in a number one
in a Kaito in a China market.
That's huge.
And that explains a lot.
Great.
So here we go.
For the people, let's just educate them like we don't know anything about Aptos.
So what is exactly the Aptos and what do you guys try to achieve in Web3?
And why is that important?
Yeah, the big thing that we're focused on right now is how do we help people understand in the space who's trustworthy and who isn't. Everyone knows how grifty or scammy the space can be at times,
whether it's super obvious and someone just pulls the rug right from underneath you after
launching a token, or if it's something more of a long con where people pretend like they're
going to be committed to something and then they never actually follow through on it. There are many ways to screw people over in Web3 and it can be very
difficult to understand where trust lies. And so our product is primarily meant to produce a score
or a way for people to easily and quickly see who is trustworthy and who isn't.
Okay, great. But let me stop you over there and I'll translate it. 많은 거짓말 그리고 사기들 그리고 스팸 사기들이 판치는 스페이스 생태계에서
유저분들이 이 프로젝트를 이해하기 쉽고
그리고 예를 들어서 몇 가지 예를 주시해 주셨는데
예를 들어 토큰이 런칭이 됐는데
이 토큰이 천천히 러그풀을 할 건지
아니면 진짜로 이 토큰이 가치가 있는 프로젝트인지
이런 것들을 여러분들에게 믿을 수 있는 건지
진짜 여러분들이 지지를 할 수 있는 건지
이런 것들을 확인해주는 하나의 필터 역할을 한다고 보시면 될 것 같아요.
내가 돈을 적든 많든 이 프로젝트에 믿고 투자를 했을 때
아니면 이제 토큰이 새로 나왔을 때
이 바닥이 떨어졌을 때 내가 바닥에서 흔히 말해서
내가 주울 수 있는 프로젝트인지
아니면 이제 얘네들이 러그풀을 해서 바닥이 떨어진 건지
이런 게 좀 헷갈리잖아요.
근데 그런 것들을 이분들이 여러분들에게 좀 믿음과 신뢰를 해서
이거를 믿을 수 있는 프로젝트인 건지 코인인 건지
이 팀들이 괜찮은 건지 이런 것들을 필터링해서
여러분들에게 정보를 제공하는 그런 제공이라고 하는데
어떤 식으로 이런 거를 리서치를 하는지도 궁금해요 그죠?
왜냐면 이 프로젝트 또한 여러분들이 생각했을 때 I'm curious how to research this kind of thing. Because in this project,
I think you can understand how to say real or not.
I'm curious to ask you that.
Alright boss, then at this point,
I think a lot of audience will have some questions for you.
And then I did receive a lot of same questions.
So I would like to ask, how Ethos can able to butterfly those information and share with the users?
Obviously, I'm sure you guys also need to do the research.
But how sure, how can you confident that all the information
that you're providing to users are right information?
Yeah, I mean, the information is not centralized,
which is a really key part of it.
If you imagine a world where the restaurants
wrote their own reviews for how good the food is,
that would be a pretty biased and shitty way to like
understand where good food is and where to go eat we depend on signals from other people
to understand what products goods or services are respected by our peers and thus creates consensus
by our peers and thus creates consensus.
And so the philosophy and belief behind what we're building in ethos is very much based
on the concept that it requires and is a reflection of many people's opinions as opposed
to one individual's opinion, especially not our opinion as the product itself.
individual's opinion, especially not our opinion as the product itself?
Ah, so Simple World. It's kind of working very similar as, like you mentioned, Google Review.
So it's going to be average out, like how many stars and that kind of ranking the project so
people could be able to understand it better. Am I understanding right?
Yeah, that's right.
Exactly right.
And so the way that ethos works is you review other people and you say that you had a positive experience or a negative experience with them.
I see.
And then that those are positive and negative, eventually it will average it out. And then people could able to judge either they could trust or not.
That's right. Yep, exactly right. 많이 보시고 레스토랑이든 자동차든 아니면 휴양지를 갈 때
이 평점들을 보고
가시잖아요. 그리고 내가
이걸 갈지 안 갈지 정하는 건데
이제 그 결정에
약간 도움을 주는 거잖아요.
사실 무조건 평점을
믿고 맹신하시는 분도 있고
아니면 이 평점 다 짜고 치는
고스톱이야 라고 생각을 해서
안 믿는 분도 있으시지만
저 같은 경우에도 개인적으로 구글 리뷰를 많이 좀 믿는 편이거든요
근데 이제 당연히 평점이 어느 정도가 있는지
그리고 전부 다 파이브 스타면 좀 이제 한번 꼼꼼히 읽어보는 편이고
한 4.5나 4.8이다 이러면 최근 몇 개
리뷰를 해서 이렇게 보는 편인데
이분도 같은 겁니다
결과적으로는 사람들이
의견을 취합해서
A라는 프로젝트가
있다고 하면 그 A라는 프로젝트에
대해서 사람들이 평점을 매길 거예요
좋든 나쁘든
그 평점을 내서
평균 평점을 여러분들이 볼 수 있고 그 사람들이 어떠한 리뷰를 Okay, so another question for you is
then how can you butterfly that person who's writing a review is rigid?
For example, let's just say we are writing a review on a project.
And I'm not even know anything about a project, but I just don't want to write him a good, you know, review.
Which could happen in our real life on a google review actually um how can you verify that person who's writing a review is kind of
you know giving actual legitimate review do you have any tools like that no yeah there's no way
of doing that right now and it brings up a really good point of like this is an issue on ethos right now there are a lot of people who
are reviewing other people or products or services that they don't know and it resembles farming it
looks like farming to us it's like oh you're just like writing these reviews there's no incentive
to write a review um but people are doing it anyways. And so I think that's one of the
things that we've been trying to be considerate of and make sure it doesn't happen too much because
yeah, people are often writing those reviews. Now, I will say there has been, we've had a lot
of success looking at our data from right now and applying different LLMs to it or AI models to understand the likelihood that the thing that was written is from a personal experience or that the person just like copy pasted it into open AI and asked it what AI thought about that person. And it's been pretty successful in identifying
when reviews don't come from authentic opinions
or are based on personal experiences.
And so we have ways to identify this.
We just haven't put them in the product
to help people understand,
don't write those types of reviews.
Understand, understand.
So that'd be great i mean i think that it was the one of the great
honest answer that we could get from like actually co-founder because obviously you kind of kind of
agreed that you know that is the biggest of you know the mighty factor that people worry about
and then you guys are working on to kind of filter those reviews out.
So make sure you bring the right values and then write reviews for that project.
I think that's fair enough.
Totally.
Now, I've just asked a lot of questions about the questions. 질문을 해주신 것들을 종합해서 한번 여쭤보았어요. 질문이라는 것이 리뷰라는 게 사실 평팜이고 구글 리뷰든 이런 것들이
아무나 그냥 아이디만 있으면 만들 수 있는 거예요. 남길 수 있는 거예요.
내가 예를 들어 바나나를 싫어하는데
그 사람 프로젝트나 이런 걸 상관없이 그냥 그 사람이 싫어서
그냥 막 안 좋은 댓글을 달고
악성 댓글을 막 하고
그냥 말도 안 되는 경험해보지도 않았으면서
그렇게 리뷰를 달고 평판을 달 수도 있는 것들이에요
그래서 이런 것들을 어떻게 니네가 이거를
진짜로 사람들이 음식점이면
이 음식을 먹은 사람이 쓴 리뷰라는 걸
어떻게 지금 확신할 수 있냐라는 거에
솔직하게 대답을 해주셨어요.
실상안에서도 사실 그거를 판단하고 걸러내는 게 쉬운 일은 아니거든요.
저 역시도 지금 회사 생활을 하고 있지만
그런 것들을 걸러내는 게 쉽지는 않아요.
대신에 단계별로 차근차근 필터 기술을 도입을 해서
이게 진짜 그냥 단순하게 AI한테 물어봐서
얻은 질문을 가지고 답변을 가지고 글을 남기는 것인지
아니면 진짜로 자기네들이 이렇게 생각을 해서 쓴 것들인지
아니면 누가 똑같은 댓글을 쓴 것을 그냥 복사 붙이기를 한 건지
이런 것들을 지금 걸러내는 작업들을 하고 있고
계속해서 진실된 리뷰가 되는 것을 원해서
계속 개발 중에 있다고 말씀을 해주시고
그런 것들이 문제가 될 수 있다는 것을 인지를 이미 하고 계셔서
그런 쪽에 작업을 착수해서 조금 더 확실한 조금 더 편파적인 이런 것들이 아닌
좀 이제 올가닉한 이런 리뷰를 여러분들이 볼 수 있게
좀 노력을 하고 있다라고 말씀을 해주셨습니다.
다음 질문으로 또 한번 이렇게 해볼게요.
그러면 이렇게 사람들이 왜 리뷰를 남기는지
혹시 여기에서 유저들이 이 웹사이트에서 리뷰를 남기고
기여를 한다든지 아니면 어떠한 인터랙션
뭐 이런 활동 포인트 같은 것들이 있는지
그래서 이제 그런 것들을 하면 나중에 혹시
추후에 무슨 보상 때문에 사람들이 이러는 건지 아니면 진짜 그냥 할 일 없어서 악성 댓글을 다는 거나 아니면 그냥 좋은 글을 남기는 거나 이런 일들을 하는지 한번 그런 것들을 한번 여쭤볼게요. People were asking, so people, users, who's interacting in ethos, in a website, either writing a review or following someone, are they getting any type of points?
And is there some sort of the reward promising later on?
Yeah, good question. I mean, right now we have this concept of contributor XP, where contributors are people that are writing reviews and helping us understand who is trustworthy and who isn't.
in the future will be easier to explicitly reward.
But for right now, it's just a way,
it's kind of like Reddit karma or it's
kind of like Stack Overflow reputation,
where we're just recognizing people
who are writing contributions.
But you can imagine a world in the future
where that's a little bit more obvious how you reward
those people.
Today, using the XP system, we have a way to really easily understand
how incentives work and how we reward those incentives.
And that allows us to have a lot of flexibility early in the project.
I see. I see.
I see. I see. So we're at super early stage.
So we're at super early stage.
I'm pretty much that we could just kind of assume that if you're active in a ethos ecosystem and you're getting XP and based on the XP later, there might be some sort of the reward back to them, but not at the moment, nothing is kind of clear out there.
That's fair. Yeah. All right. that's that's kind of fair right not too much nothing less it's kind of fair though right
all right yeah the big thing that we're looking at i think that a lot of people get confused is
quality quality contributions are the things that that we are measuring right now
are the things that we are measuring right now.
Got it, got it. 경험치들이 나중에 훗날 어떤 식으로 보상이 될지는 아직 확실하진 않지만
이런 경험치 시스템을 통해서 어떠한 사람들이 글들을 남기고 기여를 했는지
이런 기여도에 대해서 자기네들이 쉽게 보고 판단할 수 있어서 이런 경험치 시스템이 있고요.
지금은 좀 많이 극초반에 있는 거기 때문에
확실하게 무엇을 무엇을 약속을 하고 제공을 하겠습니다 라는 단계는 아닙니다
대신에 이 이코시스템 내 안에서 여러분들이 글을 쓰고 활동하는 거에 대해
올바른 글들이거나 좀 도움이 되는 글들이 같은 경우
이렇게 xp를 얻게 되고 그 XP를 가지고 추후에 어느 정도의 보상이 있을 거다라고
이렇게 좀 잠재적으로 판단할 수 있을 것 같습니다
조금 더 다른 질문들 해주셨는데
이미 이 모델이 지금 나와서 활동하시는 분들이 많잖아요 근데 이미 먼저 활동한 사람들끼리
서로 이렇게 끌어주고 밀어주고
그 말은 뭐냐면 우리 흔히들 하잖아요 사실
이렇게 팀을 짜서
야 오늘은 네가 나한테 글을 써줘
아니면 내가 글을 써준 거에 좋아요를 눌러줘
이런 식으로 서로 밀어주고 당겨주고
흔히 말하는 포인트작 같은 걸 할 수도 있는데
사실 그렇게 되면
영향력 있는 사람들끼리
이렇게 서로 자기들끼리 짜고 치면
그것 또한 올바른 리뷰가 아닌 것 같긴 한데
그런 것들은 또 어떻게 생각하는 건지
한번 또 한번 물어볼게요
Alright, here we go I'll ask you how to think about those things.
Alright, here we go.
Another very important question, I think.
When you're writing a review, right?
I don't think there is any privacy.
What that means is, if I'm writing a review in certain things,
they can see my name in your ecosystem so because of that
reason some of the you know knowing influencer or knowing people or who has like actual weight in
their word they don't want to write anything like bad reviews because they don't want to have you know enemies
in a web 3 some sort of they just want to be like just an all-round player so maybe there might be
a hesitating writing on their personal really honest opinion unless they just want to kind of
say screw you i don't want it and don't want to talk it it might be not pure organic i just want to hear
your thoughts and also another adding top of that is there might be people already started
like influencer already and they're just one of like kol for example now they just could be like
okay you know let's write some reviews each. And they might be getting some of the,
could be in a high ranking,
or they could just getting a kind of farming their XP.
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, I mean, there's a few things.
One, I think that people are going to farm XP
and going to try to farm Ethos, and you can already kind of see these things playing out.
In my opinion, if you are trying to spoof credibility or fake credibility or look like someone that is credible when you're not, I don't really know what that says about you, but it's up to other people to decide.
And that will be really interesting to see how it
plays out. We've already seen people who are more explicitly farming, and they're getting called out
by community members. The other part of that is the anonymous reviews, or every review puts your
name behind it. It's really important on Ethos that your name is always next to what you write
because you have to carry that risk of who is saying those things,
who is the one that carries the burden of if someone else retaliates against you.
If you have anonymous reviews purely
then it's never weighted you never have the emphasis of who it came from and so some people
might not feel comfortable writing or saying things publicly behind their their personal name
but to be honest that is a big important part of ethos and how ethos works overall.
I agree 100%.
Trust me, I'm with you and I agree.
Let me explain to them.
I have a few questions.
First, there is no security for the human rights. 질문들을 드렸습니다. 첫 번째로는 익명의 보장성이 없기 때문에
예를 들어 내가 인플루언서인데
이 사람한테
척을 지기 싫어요.
혹은 이 프로젝트랑
벽을 쌓기 싫어서
소위 말해서
약간 그냥
사탕발림 하는 거죠.
아니면 그냥
너무 나쁘게 쓰고 싶지는 않고
그냥 대충 두리뭉술하게 글을 쓸 수도 있는 거고
그리고 아니면 이미 서로 친한 K-홀들끼리
아니면 이미 알고 있는 인플루언서들끼리
자기네들끼리 서로 좋은 리뷰들을 짜고
이렇게 남기자
네가 활동하는 거에 그럼 나도 남길게
이런 식으로 해서 파밍 작업을 하는 거에 대해서는
어떻게 생각하느냐
실제로 이제 에어드랍이 있다거나
아니면 이런 플랫폼 같은 경우들은
대부분 또 그런 것들이 사실 유행을 많이 하고
그렇게 아만리에 이런 일들을 하니까
그런 거에 대해 어떻게 생각을 하냐고 질문해 보았는데
첫 번째로 일단은 파밍 작업을 하거나
서로 밀어주기 또 당겨주기를 한다고 하면
이미 앱톱스 커뮤니티 이코시스템에 있는
커뮤니티 멤버들이 제보를 한다고 합니다
그리고 이제 그런 것들을 또 조사를 해봤을 때
너무 눈에 띄게 그런 활동들을 한다고 그러면
또 제재를 하거나 아니면 이제 이 이코시스템에서
이제 활동을 하지 못하는 게 이런 제재 역할을 하고 있다고 하고 있고 한다고 그러면 또 제재를 하거나 아니면 이제 이 이코시스템에서
이제 활동을 하지 못하는게 이런 제재 역할을 하고 있다고 하고 있고
그리고 익명의 보장성 그쵸 잇몽의 보장성에 대해서는 사실 어떻게 보면 그 사람들이 안고 가야 되는 하나의 부담감이 될 수 있다는 거는 맞다라고 얘기를 해주셨습니다.
즉 예를 들어 우리 일반인들이 예를 들어서 연예인들이 어떤 옷을 입고 나오면
그 옷이 완판되기도 하고 이러잖아요.
근데 사실 그 사람들이 그런 걸 모르고 입지는 않을 거예요.
공항 패션이라든지 아니면 PPL이라든지 이런 것들을 했을 때
사람들로 하게끔 암암리에 이렇게 어떻게 보면 판매 이런 욕구를 만들어주는 것처럼
이 본인들이 KOL들이고 인플루언서들이라면
그 사람들이 본인들이 갖고 있는 영향력에 대한 그런 무게감을 알고 있다고 생각을 하고
또 그런 무게감들 때문에
사람들이 그 사람들을 신뢰를 하고 믿을 수 있다.
즉 내가 글을 쓴 것보다
당연히 우리 파운더님인 애플님이
글을 쓰는 게 더 영향력이 있고
파워가 있는 거예요.
대신에 이게 익명성이 보장이 된다고 하면
과연 내가 글을 쓴 건지 애플이가 글을 쓴 건지 이런 걸 모르기 때문에
그 부분에 대해서는 당연히 익명성보다는 이름을 제공한다라고 말씀을 해주셨어요
그렇게 또 말을 듣고 보면 충분히 왜 익명이 보장이 안 되는지 이해는 가는 부분인 것 같습니다. 누가 왜 어떤 식으로 글을 썼는지를 우리 일반 웹들이 유저분들이 알 권리가 있고 확인하는 절차에 당연히 본인이 쓴 글 옆에 본인의 이름이 게재가 되고
누가 그런 글을 썼는지 확인할 수 있는 좋은 하나의 툴인 것 같아서
저는 익명 보장보다는 이 방식이 조금 더 투명하고 좋지 않나 해서
그 의견에 동의를 좀 했는 편이에요.
여러분의 생각이 어떤지 좀 궁금합니다. 여러분들은 익명이 좋은지
제가 질문
해주셨던 분들처럼
익명이 보장이 안 되기 때문에
그냥 좋게만 쓸 것이다.
라고 생각을 하는 부분에서
어떻게 생각을 하시는지
좀 궁금합니다.
일단 여러 가지들을 알고 있는 것 같아요.
즉 이분들이 계속 말씀해주시는 부분도 뭔가 여러분들이 이 이코시스템에 들어와서 글을 보았을 때 본인들이 판단하는 것에 대해 도움을 줄 수 있게 좀 이런 식으로 활용할 수 있는 하나의 툴이다라고 계속 강조를 좀 해주시는 것 같은데
I think it's a tool that you can use.
Next, you can compare KITO with KITO.
So I'll ask you a question.
All right.
I think sorry to compare your project with another project,
but there is some people that are comparing your project versus kaito and kaito is using i believe on
ai database and then people are thinking that is more accurate but itos is writing a review
as a person so there might be a lot of motion get involved emotionally you know people get involved
and there might be not accurate much as kaito what do you have thought on that
um i would say kaito and ethos are measuring two very different things uh i've always said that
they're super complementary because kaito measures attention uh How much ability do you have to capture mind share?
What Kaido does not measure is reputation.
And that's what we're focused on measuring.
What I mean by reputation is how credible is someone?
How trustworthy are they?
And that is a really important part of the equation
and understanding who has influence in the space.
You can look at the Kaido leaderboard and see people who are really good at tweeting, but that does not show you who has the most trust in the space.
The primary difference here, too, is Kaido is looking at Twitter data.
Ethos is creating its own data set.
We don't have data that exists out there.
We are creating our own data and allowing people to instrument that data so that we can create our own set of analysis on top of it.
Great, great.
I mean, it makes sense and i was really actually thinking to explain translate
back to in korean with the very easy word which is i was thinking that kaito is pretty much that
you could see how many attention they're getting how many hypes are they're getting but ethos is up actually for
reputation like now i think it might be a good tool that if they use it both they might be kind
of perfect because you could see how well be the tensions and how many hypes they could get
and then if they want to hear the true stories based on a reputation,
then Ethos is a really good source of tool that people are able to conform that hype.
Am I understanding right? Maybe that might be a good explanation?
Yeah, that's totally right.
Thank you. 자, 좋습니다. 항상 제가 번역을 하기 전에 여러분들에게 좀 더 쉽고 이해하기 편하기 좋게 마지막으로 한 번씩 파운더님들한테 확인을 봤는데 카이토랑 비교를 해주시는 분들 좀 중요한 얘기를 해주셨어요.
카이토는 얼마나 많은 사람들이 관심을 가지고 있고 이 프로젝트에 대해서 이야기를 하고 있고 얼마나 하입이 많은지를 좀 이렇게 확인할 수 있는 시스템이라면
이 이토스 같은 경우는 어떠한 평편을 가지고 있는지 사람들의 대한 그런 평판을 볼 수 있는
그런 곳이다라고 또 얘기를 해주셨거든요
그래서 결과적으로는
두 개를 같이 다 활용을 하시면
참 좋을 것 같아요
신상이 새로 나와서
사람들이 이 신상이 와 너무 좋다
와 이 프로젝트가 너무
관심이 좋다
토큰을 한단다
와 이렇게 해서 관심이 있어서
우리가 텔레그램이라든지 토이터라든지 많은 관심이 좋다, 토큰을 한단다, 이렇게 해서 관심이 있어서
우리가 텔레그램이라든지, 토이터라든지
많은 인플루언서들이나 KOL들이 글을 올리면
이게 진짜인지 아닌지 모르고 그냥 그 사람들이 있기 때문에
구매를 하게 되고 하입이 되게 되고 이런 경우들이 있어요.
그러면 이거를 초반으로 해서 이토스에 가서 이 프로젝트에 대해서 사람들이 실제로 어떻게 생각하는지
좀 날 것 그대로의 리뷰를 보고 여러분들이 판단하시는데 도움을 줄 수 있는 그런 플랫폼인 것 같아요.
그래서 제가 이렇게 설명을 드리면 맞을까요? 라고 한번 여쭤보았더니
완벽하다, 좋다, 맞다다 그거다 라고 얘기를 하고 해주셨어요
그러니까 이거를 맹시는 할 수는 없지만 본인이 어떠한 프로젝트에 관심이 있고
이렇게 좀 갈 때 이토스에 들어가서 사람들이 실제로 어떻게 평판을 하고 있는지
이런 것들 즉 미국에서도 뿐만이 아니라 각 나라에서 래피테이션은 정말 중요한 거예요
사람은 평판인데 내가 사람들이 나를 어떻게 생각하는 그런 평판이 되게 좀 중요한 것처럼
이 프로젝트들의 날 것 그대로의 평판을 한번 보실 수 있는 그런 이코시스템이라고 생각을 합니다 I think it's a ecosystem that you can see.
And we just have a lot of questions from the audience here and there, which is great.
I think this is really, really great.
You'll see the supporting from Korean people and Korean market at the moment uh i have a question at the moment who is eligible to use your
website who is eligible to write the review is that open to everyone or i understanding is only
for a few people yeah that's right you have to have an invite right now um to ethos to participate
so the only way that you can participate is if someone
invites you to the product. And that creates this invitation bond between two people,
where if you invite someone and they do something bad on Ethos, or they rug pull people, or they do
something criminal in the real world, your score will go down too.
And this is an important part because it means that there is an emphasis on inviting high
quality people as opposed to inviting people that you think might potentially do something
negative.
Ah, I like that system so for example if i invite someone and then that person does some stupid
things sorry my language but let's just be a talk straight on here so if that person do some
really stupid thing my repet like my score goes down too because I invited him pretty much.
That's right. If his score goes down.
Ah, I see. So person who's giving out that invite has to also modify that person's regime then?
Yep, exactly. 자 일단 지금 현재는 특정한 일부 사람들만 이 시스템을 사용할 수 있고 웹사이트에서 글을 남기고 할 수 있어요.
초대 코드는 이제 여기에 들어와 있는 사람들이 초대를 해줄 수 있는데 이 초대를 할 때도 좀 조심해야 된다고 합니다.
예를 들어서 이 사람이 현실에서도 평판이 안 좋고
웹드리에서도 평판이 예를 들어 안 좋은 사람을 내가 초대했을 때
그 사람의 평판이 안 좋거나 활동이 이상한 글을 쓴다거나
솔직하게 약간 어떻게 보면 병맛짓을 하게 되면
이 사람을 초대한 사람이 나잖아요.
그러니까 나한테도 영향이 있는 거예요.
그렇기 때문에 내가 누군가를 초대할 때
되게 좀 신중히 이렇게 초대를 해야 된다고 합니다
왜냐하면 평판이 중요하고
어떠한 글을 했고
어떠한 걸 다 내 얼굴을 까고 하는 건데
만약에 진짜 뭐 말도 안 되는
그지 같은 글을 막 남겼다든지
아니면 이제 누군가한테 해를 가할 수 있는
그런 글을 썼다든지 그런 사람이 내 초대 코드를 받으면 또 안 되겠죠 or someone who can get rid of the code.
If you get rid of the code, it's not possible.
At this moment, since a lot of them are asking,
is there any way that you could able to give some opportunity to our great audience here today?
That they could able to get some invited to code we can add some we could definitely add
some invites to um apple's account and he can send some invites out to people i mean i i'm always
cautious with the idea of doing a giveaway or like a wheel yeah i mean of course of course you could
do it you could do it but uh apple's gotta take the hit if he invites some people that end up rug
pulling on his own credibility score so this is something to keep in mind but yeah absolutely we
can give maybe we can give 10 10 um invites for apple to give out to people yeah i mean really
really really love it love it i mean we have about like 232 audience here so if it's not too much
maybe we'll just do like maybe a lucky 20.
And then all the responsibility, I'll make sure that Apple knows that what he's doing.
Is that fair, boss?
I love it. Let's do it.
Okay, 좋습니다. 지금 이제 많은 분들이 또 초대 코드를 얘기를 또 해주셨고
또 이제 저보다도 또 많은 이런 또 리서치를 해주셔서
지금 우리 현재 이 AMA를 듣고 이 스페이스를 듣고 있는 분들한테
총 한 20개의 자리가 있을 텐데
이 20개를 그냥 나눠드리는 건 아니고요.
우리 스페이스를 주최하신 애플님
그리고 이제 서치바 파운더님이시죠
그 파운더님이 차례로 초대 코드 20개를 드린다고 합니다
즉 이 20개 자리가 애플님이 잘 판단을 하셔서
이렇게 줘야 되는데
이 코드를 받으신 분들은 나뿐만이 아니라
내가 진짜 삽질을 하고 되거나 병만 짓을 하게 되면
애플, 우리 또 서치파이 파운더님의 얼굴에 먹칠을 하는 것이 되기 때문에
꼭 올바른 활동, 활성화 활동 하신 분들만
어떻게 한번
이렇게 지금 듣고 계신 분들에게
분들 중에서 이렇게 한번
또 얘기를 해주시면 또 우리
파운더님이 잘 결정을 하셔서
나눠주실 거라고 또 믿습니다
그 조건 하에 20개를
받아왔습니다 20개의 자리를
받아왔고 또
여러분 또 시간 내주셨는데
어느 정도의 좀 약간 웃음 을 또 드릴 수 있는 그런 하나의 작은 I've been here for a while, and I've been here for a while, and I'm not sure what you can do.
Alright boys, I think we're almost heading into the one hour.
But we always, I personally always wanted to ask, what is your main achievement in a Web3? What is your goal? And it could be a
short term, it could be a long term. I always love to ask for projects, founders, co-founder,
or even the dev, what is your achievement for this year? Yeah, I mean, I think the big thing
is like, can we put a dent in this amount of money that gets lost from traders' hands every day?
If you go to our website, go to ethos.network, there's a bunch of stats and info about there's over $9 billion lost each year from people scamming each other, basically.
Can we put a dent in that?
can we grow the overall community of crypto users because no longer the first time people join,
they get scammed. How can we prevent people overall from getting completely rug pulled or
buying things that are not beneficial to the overall society of crypto and thus hurt crypto's reputation um those are kind of the
things that that they're big big objectives but on my mind if like it would be really meaningful
to move those now where do you came up with the idea because uh it sounds like you're too angel
sounds like you're too nice where did you have came up with that like how did you guys able to run the projects like do
you guys got like so support from some companies i mean you know you gotta we gotta feed our family
and support our family you know everything is kind of free here and i don't know what you guys are
thinking like how could you guys create the things we have have venture capital, right? We raised from our community.
Raising from our community is a big part of how we thought about the original part of this product.
And so we raised from 60 angel investors in the space.
And it was from people that were also aligned with this concept of like, we need some way of solving this problem.
Like, it must solve this problem.
Otherwise crypto is never going to grow.
And, and so I would say it comes from a need, not of us only, but, but inspiration of other
people from the community who also believe that we must change this, that we must find
a way to solve this, who, who originally funded the company.
So hopefully that helps answer you.
Lovely, lovely.
I mean, I'm a big fan of your concepts and idea, and I really respect that.
Because I myself, I'm in this space for three years now.
And there's a certain time that I was like, you know what, fuck this.
Because sometimes, you know, I get I get more calls.
I get scams as well.
I have a couple of experience.
Got my wallet got being drained.
Lost a lot of access.
You know, I think I lost like over a quarter million so far.
In that freaking three years.
Obviously, I've met some good people, too.
So I kind of did a little bit of recovery as well.
But I was always thinking like getting those kind of hits,
especially on the bear market.
Like if I hit like those kind of shit,
then I was like, you know what?
What the fuck I'm doing?
I'm already busy in the web too.
Why I got to spend my own time and extra
then get those kind of extra stress.
But that's why I would love to ask,
where did you come up with the ideas and how did you start it?
And I think you kind of nailed that answer.
And I really appreciate that and love to support your project because I'm
always like that working as a CMO in a certified community.
My goal is not just for my own benefit.
Like that's why I always love the apple idea because he's not looking to make money off his community though all he's doing is try to
work hard to bring the value back to your community um so same thing that's why we he's always been
working hard and that's why a lot of people living in him and trusting in him.
So I guess it kind of aligns the concept that you and Apple.
So I really also love to support your project as well.
So let me transfer back to Korean.
So many of you have asked me
why did you start this project?
What do you have to start? What do you have to start? 왜 이 프로젝트를 시작하게 됐는지, 시작한 동기가 있는지, 계기가 있는지, 아니면 이 프로젝트 뒤에 누가 있는지 많은 사람들이 그런 경험이 있을 거예요.
러그를 당한 적도 있을 거고 스캠을 당한 적도 있을 거고
지갑이 드레인 당한 적도 있을 거고
여차 다 아픔이 한 번씩은 있는 것 같아요.
웹드릴을 좀 오래 하셨던 분들이라면
다 믿고 투자했다가 날랐거나 아니면 다이아몬드 핸들을 했는데
그 프로젝트들이 마지막에 또 미친 짓을 해서 돈을 잃거나
이런 일들이 비일비재하게 일어나는 게 웹들이에요.
물론 돈을 벌 수 있는 기회도 많이 있다는 것들은
또 여러분도 이해하고 인정할 부분인데
이런 것들을 보았을 때 어떻게 하면 사람들이 받는 피해를 좀 줄일 수 있을까 라는 아이디어를 만들게 됐고
이런 아이디어를 기반으로 이제 그 뒤에 많은 사람들이 이제 웹들이 있는 분들이 투자를 해줬고 그 투자를 기반으로 해서 이렇게 이제 프로젝트를 만들어서 이렇게 지금 서비스를 해나가고 있다라고 말씀을 해주셨습니다.
어떻게 보면 너무 좋은 마음으로 프로젝트를 시작을 했고
그 좋은 마음이 나중에 변하지 않고
지금처럼 계속 사람들을 생각을 해서
올바른 사람들에게 사람들 웹들이인이라면
누구나 꼭 가서 활동하고 싶은 그런 이토스가 되길 바라면서
마지막 질문 인사 말씀 듣고 오늘 스페이스 마감하도록 하겠습니다.
Alright boys. First of all, I think everyone is in the same page with me.
I think we have about little little over wow 240 audience here
i will first of all i think everybody wants to say thank you for what you're doing
and then i want this project to be really really really really really the place that we need to
go place you know go to the place you know a main place before we invest our money,
before we do anything.
Like we hope Ethos could be that site that people must have.
Like how we using like a pocket purse or GoPros before they minting,
you know, we always put that on.
So that way we kind of get the idea, make sure that it's no drain or not a scam.
So that way we kind of get the idea, make sure that it's no drain or not a scam.
So hopefully, Ethos could be one of the main sites that people would go and check the reviews before they made any decisions.
So before I let you go, once again, I really appreciate your valuable time this morning.
And if there's anything else that you would like to say to our over 200 audience here.
Thanks for the opportunity. Thank you for translating everything. That sounds like a
very difficult job. I don't know how you do it. I try to keep my answers short, even though I tend
to ramble. So thank you for translating it. And I would say, please, I welcome anyone to the
Ethos community. It doesn't matter what language you speak. I welcome anyone to the Ethos community.
It doesn't matter what language you speak.
I want you to use your own native language when you write reviews.
We have plenty of tools in place to help people translate stuff.
So when you log into Ethos, you'll see Chinese in there. And I saw some Russian or something in there the other day.
There's lots of people speaking lots of languages.
This is not a closed community by any means we welcome everyone oh like that answer language free so if
you want to write chinese you could korean japanese english doesn't really matter you could speak your
own language there gotcha big shit right there. Like it.
See?
Always alpha comes later.
So, we've got a final shout out.
Thank you so much for being here.
And, among the questions,
I can see English and Chinese,
but I can use Korean. If you're a bit hard to use English, 중국어도 보이고 막 이러는데 한국말 써도 되냐? 영어가 좀 힘드신 분들 굳이 영어로 멋있게 쓰려고 노력 안 하셔도 됩니다.
한국말로 본인이 편한 언어를 사용을 해서 활동을 하시면 된다고 합니다.
굳이 이게 미국 프로젝트고 영어를 써야 된다는 그런 부담감에서 벗어나서 본인이 쓸 수 있는 그런 리뷰, 그런 글들을
그냥 한국말로 편안하게 제시하면 되고
또 그거를 또 한국 사람들이 보고
또 이렇게 진솔된 리뷰인지 확인을 할 수 있으니까
굳이 멋있게 영어로 사용을 안 해도 된다고 합니다.
All right, I guess we are all that's it for today.
I really really appreciate your value time again.
I hope you have a great great great wonderful day.
Until next time, peace out. Thank you so much.
오늘 참석해 주신 많은 분들 너무 감사드립니다.
이상으로 스페이스를 마치도록 하겠습니다.
여기 계신 분들 에토스에서 좋은 정보 많이 얻으시고
또 에토스를 통해서 이렇게 피해받는 것들을 줄일 수 있으면
오늘 저희와 함께한 이 1시간이 아깝지 않을 거라 믿어 의심치 않습니다.
다시 한번 인사드립니다. 바나나였습니다.
감사합니다. 좋은 밤 되십시오. Thank you.
