Yo, what's up, English? Can you hear me?
Yeah, all good, brother. I think we finally figured it out.
Alright, got vlogged there on two of them. Third time was a charm. Let's fucking go.
Were you able to do it via the link?
Sorry, English. I can't hear you over standing ground.
What's up, Pam? What's up, Doll Hair?
Don't let us in our zone.
I keep takin' in the dank state, focus on the fuck, give me niggas I ain't know
I'm flat, but I'm countin' my broad draw, but I got it winnin' out
I just bought me a water bottle, chow that down, but I thank God they'd miss em out
And I keep smilin' God's dumb face, but I put that nigga back in that straight
And I don't talk too much, I'm not so rough, and I don't tell that room's fake
I'm not too much, I'm not so rough, I don't tell that room's fake
And I don't tell that room's fake, but I got it winnin' out
And I don't tell that room's fake, but I got it winnin' out
And I don't tell that room's fake, but I got it winnin' out
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Don't let me into my zone, you haters leave me alone
I say don't let me into my zone, don't let me into my zone
Don't let me into my zone, you haters leave me alone
Don't let me talk about that, Marley, you found me and all these niggas ain't dippin'
You're MDM-ing, put it in a saw-weep on my breast
This dance is hard, not for a case
What's the piece? I make drinks all tough and each crutch on my face
Cause I dance the dance up in the place
Somebody's on your face while I'm running on my feet
They'll never wind you up, so right now you're not from me
I'm loud, I'm booty, don't take my feet back, I'm even moving
Over half of my body, when I'm running off, I'm jumping
If I get you, if I get you, if I get you
If I get you, if I get you, if I get you
If I get you, if I get you, if I get you
If I get you, if I get you, if I get you, if I get you
Don't let me into my zone, you don't let me into my zone
You don't let me into my zone, you haters leave me alone
I say don't let me into my zone, you don't let me into my zone
You don't let me into my zone, you haters leave me alone
Say, like it up, my accent
Before that, she pretty wet, let's let down her best friend
What's up, me? What's a sunset?
That's right, bitch, we ain't done yet
Lapping our curves on drugs
And she lagged them up on my blank sheet of drugs
I always make her feel good
And the rush she take explain
Yo, what's up, Polymath? What's up, English?
We got Birds on the stage with us
Polymath, you don't like Danny Brown?
If you keep up with dancing that against your
your your picky music abilities
will, you know, will, will be laughing
Yo, yo, yo pick your music abilities will you know, we'll be left
Everybody else in the audience if you can throw me a thumbs up if you like Danny Brown that will help me
Win this win this battle with Polymath. I was kind of vibing with it. That was kind of vibing. Oh shit
We got a thumbs up from burst. What's up, I fucking I fucking love Danny Brown man
You got me there fucking love Danny Brown amazing. This is not
Love Danny Brown just that particular song on it. So get it get in my zone
All right, well, well, I don't know I'm feeling a little bit more confident now that burst comes on the scene saying he fucking
Loves Danny Brown. But yeah, we'll chat. We'll chat. We'll get polymath on the DJ list for next week
But yeah, welcome everybody. This is everything ordinals. We got English. We got polymath. We got burst on stage
Anybody's welcome requests come up retweet the space posting ordinals. We got rugged on the first two
Spaces I tried to start so if you guys can help us circulate we want to get folks in here
We got a lot of stuff going on as usual a lot of exciting things happening today and a lot of things coming as well
So we're really excited to get into the show with you all
Want to throw it over to my two co-hosts English and polymath. How's it going?
I want to you know, welcome everybody to the ordinal show again
It's the place you know about the hottest ordinals digital artifacts. We're actually torn his rules
Bitcoin L ones L tools the up-and-coming launch pads and many many projects does we are gonna be
Finding out about throughout this bull cycle
You want to invite everyone to come up feel free to come Bob share any education any alpha?
You got any high techs on any other subject matter that we covering today?
The everything ordinal show we have a quote that we is always better than me and we know that we stronger together than apart in
English what's on the agenda boss?
What's good? What's good?
I'm actually hiding a little corner
So like the cleaning lady decided that she's gonna clean like where I'd have my home home office like right at 330
And I didn't really want to like derail her so I don't have my computer screen in front of me
But I'm hoping to get to it fairly short. I did send some stuff to good things
So hopefully he has it in front of him. If not, I can just spit it from the top of my head
Did we lose good things there? All right
Well, we're definitely gonna talk a little bit about a couple things that we had talked about previously, right?
So the thank-you acts actually minted. We have another mint coming up in terms of the the pizza ninjas as well
So definitely gonna chat a little bit about that
Then yeah, I just got to go back to my list or whatever. But yeah, let me see what's going on. Good things
Are you having trouble? Good, you know good things is always having trouble. It's just kind of like the natural flow things
But no, I'm good man. I just had to get my headphones set up. I'm here in LA landed last night
So I'm staying with a buddy
You know trying to be a good friend and not just sit on Twitter all day
But as you guys know that is impossible for me, but yeah, no, everything's good, man
I kind of I had to duck out for a second while I put my headphones on so I kind of missed the
Beginning of what you said, but I think we've got a lot of stuff to talk about we've got burst up here
Did you have something you wanted to discuss first or should we go straight to burst? I?
Polly was just asking what was on the agenda
I was just letting everybody know that I'm away from the desk right now and that a couple of things that we were gonna chat about
The thank you X mint that didn't mint out. We got Trevor's project at Pizza ninjas
We have a couple other topics that we want to get to I don't know if you have it in front of you
I'm hoping to get back to my yeah. Yeah, I mean there's people can't tell you know, everything orders is incredibly organized
You know, we know exactly what we're doing here
But I would like to you know, since we have burst on the stage, I'd love to just like get into that
We can talk about the other stuff
Following but I'm we're very honored to have you with us first
I know you know that the ha ha cards have done extremely well
There's a lot of great people collecting and there and I know you've got this upcoming collection
So I just want to welcome you and maybe you can just introduce yourself to folks who don't know you
Tell us a little bit about what you've been doing in the space and and you know what your work on Ordinal's is looking like
Absolutely, thanks so much for bringing me up for this opportunity
I really love the wife's here man English. I have a similar situation
My cleaning lady is right now up in in the apartment where I'm living with my girlfriend
And I just hiding in the office here down below because I have a different
Apartment down below where my office is so and it's super loud
I don't know why right now did the neighbors started to have a party?
Okay, but I'm gonna give my best. So brutal dude. It's brutal. I'm here with you
Dude, like I'm gonna be in my little zone with like my mic set up and like
Well, yes, thanks again guys, so
My journey started back in 2019
Came to Peru. I'm right now also in Peru. I'm actually originally from from Austria Vienna
But I came to Peru because my girlfriend had the vision to to provide
Yeah, just practices of psychotherapy and music therapy to underprivileged population
That's that's why I came to Peru to basically visit her I was really broke back in 2019
Had no money. She bought me the flight ticket so I can visit her
She she proved she she bought me a MacBook Air
Because I told her look hey
I would try to find a way to to make some money online and and here in Peru
I met a guy who wasn't a crypto art and who who wasn't a crypto in general
He a guy from Venezuela and and back then I didn't know that he was living on the streets
In Peru here in this little fisherman and surfer town where I ended up with my girlfriend eventually and and
He talked about crypto and he talked about art on crypto and stuff and NFTs and yeah
I got he gave me the hint to I should I should apply to superior what I did
I got onboarded right away by Zach
Who just recently got one of my collectors who just bought purchase the ha ha card like a week ago
And I sold my first piece for one USD like a symbolic amount
Within a short period of time like within six months. I saw an artwork for one each back then
With the base the bull market the frenzy. I still continue to sell for one year for five feet eventually even silver 20
It got totally crazy and within the span of one year. It changed literally my life the whole space
Yeah, I was it's even now talking. It's it's still emotional
and and and on the contrary it was
The negative side of it within another year like coming to bear market not selling at all
I fell into a depression. I couldn't handle it. I didn't take profits
at the peak I had to learn the cycle stuff and
Yeah, eventually I came out of the depression again
my I was lucky that I have a
girlfriend who's a psychotherapist and
And not just that but the medicinal plants here in Peru, which is legal helped me also a lot and
Having a community of friends here and artists
Helped me read a lot. I was I was fortunate and
The beginning of last year Stephen was an art historian
And was deep into ordinals from the beginning even
Before february like I sing
Um, he became an eve collector of mine and eventually
Yes in february, I saw all of this started with ordinals
But I didn't know how to enter and I don't want to just inscribe something
I wanted to understand first. What can I bring as an artist to the medium i'm working with and then steven
and us partnered up and and
He was very deep into the ordinals protocol and and uh, he found this one card I made by accident
My father gave me like a bunch of postcards when I moved away from home like 10 years ago
And um, yeah, I had like 80 of them and and and steven to like dude have you more?
And I said like yeah, I have 80 lying around. I didn't know what to do with them and I didn't had the right medium
um to launch something like this and then he came up with the idea dude, we have to do something on all of those ordinals and uh
Uh all of the og's um became a speaker on
Last year in inscribing amsterdam. But prior to that I we teamed up with ordinelli
Um, he inscribed all of the all of the hard cards
We we laid out a good marketing strategy
But we wanted to do that, but we didn't got the right platform to to launch it. So that's why we did it otc
And in the end we sold over 70 cards otc and we have a very we had a very selective
amount of collectors like
a lot of og's and I was really fortunate and and thankful to get the
From all of the core people from ordinelli. Um up to you know, like amanda
And even even casey himself got a ha ha card eventually
Uh, I met him in san francisco last year. Um, I gave him also another artwork honorary. Um
Oh, did we lose verse I think he just muted by oh, yeah
No, I think he just hit the mute button. So oh shit. Sorry guys
So I I just wanted to say this like I found like a new home. Um
Yeah, it it's last year was just fucking incredible, you know launching the ha cards and building a community with our own discord
Right now we we are preparing our second collection
All of the ha cards older are obviously on the white list. Um
All of the prints because I I dropped a couple of prints, uh on gamma
Those have also white lists and some communities are allocated who?
I can say this we are launching like within the next 10 days
Um, and uh, yeah, uh, what else is to say? I think yeah right now
I sold the original of uh pepe ha ha because I dropped it. I suggested. Yeah yesterday like in stealth
I didn't want to announce it any real quick
Hold on. Hold on bursch. Mike is there or bursch is there a way you can pin like to the top like uh,
Kind of like the old collection or the ha collection and then if you can kind of give us a preview of the new collection
I'll find it. It's it's kind of hard to do that while he's talking. So i'll find it and i'll pin some stuff up
Um, but dude, absolutely incredible story. Please please continue
Uh, sorry guys i'm rambling i'm
Having a no, no, no, dude
This is this is like I don't want to interrupt you like but I have a lot to say because you have an incredible journey
And i'm really grateful you're sharing this with us
Oh, thanks. So guys lies. Uh, thanks so much. Um
Where where I yeah like right now like uh
Neurobot pepe ha ha the original for 0.08181
Which is totally bonkers. Uh
Yeah, I just like 15 minutes before for the space we closed the deal and and I think let me check
I think it's yeah, it should be sold already
Glitch frames coming up. Yeah, that there is the there is a tweet. Um
Yeah, so there will be more than
Um, there will be more than just this just this 9000 frames
This is going to build upon more than that
But yeah, I don't want to show more than that at this point
I think i'm i'm done with my
My monologue. Yeah. Yeah, dude, I mean absolutely incredible journey and to talk about kind of how you came you came
You know, you went you went and hit several walls and you were able to get over them
Um, I mean frankly like if you've been in this industry and you haven't experienced some form of like sadness or depression
Like I don't know what you're doing because this industry is like it's one of the most brutal industries out there, right?
Like you're you're literally we're all living in a 24 hours a day seven day a week market
Like you're you're consistently being judged
Like no matter what you're doing in this industry
Like because if you're getting signal like if you're a creator on twitter
You're getting signal like with your impressions with your you know, all the analytics, right?
You can tell whether people are picking up what you're what you're doing
You know based on floor price and volume
Um, you know if you're on a team like it just doesn't matter what you do here
It's one of the most like I think brutal
Um places to be and i've worked at amazon, which is a very brutal place to work. Um, so
To hear this journey that you've been on and to kind of see how you you navigated from you know
I think a very humble beginning and and maintained, you know
Like that that level of grit and and like humbleness, which I think is so important, you know
Like people don't make it to where they're at by being coming in and being you know, too
Too bombastic too too like confident about what they're offering like you have to kind of build it
Organically and the fact that you're able to sell those ha ha cards
Um, you know otc and get it in the hands of like og's
And like the you know, the truly like respected builders in the space is a very it's a very powerful thing
Um, so yeah, really looking forward to this this new collection
I don't know how much you can talk about it, but we absolutely want to hear about it
So like please if whatever you can share it, I know you said it's coming in 10 days
Um, it's obviously i'm looking at the tweet. It's a 9000 piece collection, which is a pretty large collection
But honestly, I think um, you know, I think there's probably demand because if you did a small collection
It probably would be pretty pricey and not that many people will be able to hold so
Curious to hear about this this collection if you can share anything
Yeah, absolutely. I mean this is a free mint. So so that the thing is um, oh shit
Yeah, man. So so we this is for the community. So we don't we don't want to make
Money with that. So I mean we are also open that stephen, you know stephen
Is going to announce that we we ourselves are going to meet like 200 pieces out of this 9000
the costs we had like, uh, you know working with uh
ordinelli and and the time and everything so
But but other than that like this is for the community. Um, and um, yeah, so these these are
It's called glitch frames
This is also among my early pieces in when I started in crypto because back in 2019
When I launched my first piece on super rare
Before that I actually started to fuck around with this kind of glitch frames
But eventually I didn't mint on eve and I didn't mint on super rare these kind of pieces
um, because it's just like
There wasn't a market for it. It's it's kind of like generative, you know, you know, it's like a
Order of how these were created so it it has both it has some generative art aspect to it
uh, it's a combination of
You know, I have to think what I what I can what I can talk about
I shouldn't talk too much, but um
Yeah, so yeah, don't worry. Don't worry your secret. Everything is safe here. I know that record staying at the top
Don't worry about that. Uh, only 64 people listening
Well, basically, um, yeah, so there will be around 9 000 not exactly 9 000
It's all about art right? So it's art for art's sake and um
I I can say so much there will be
You know, my moniker is ha ha so everything is is about ha ha it's um
And it's called by purpose ha ha glitch frames because it's basically i'm playing with with a portal
That the art itself is a portal which leads you to another dimension and eventually to another layer. Um, and uh
Um, I I was thinking when I was creating those pieces back in 2019 and I continued working on them, uh last year
Uh when we came up with what could be the collections we want to launch on ordinals
But we knew that this is going to come later on after the after the hard cards
And so now is the time perfect. Um
Also, the technology is kind of there to what we are about to do
So yeah, uh eventually so that it's a portal which leads you through a journey. Let me let me tell you this
Through a wormhole to another space
And uh, ha ha will come up
And ha ha will lead you to the other side and lead you maybe back to the beginning
When you say like um, like technology is caught up
Like are you saying like from from like actually creating the pieces from like distribution?
Because we've seen like a couple free mints obviously
Um, there's different ways to do that whether it's like a whitelist and inscribed now
I think most recently yesterday
There was a drop from an artist who who debuted on on ordinals and had like these codes that she would give out
And you were able to like inscribe like have have you guys thought about the distribution yet?
What I mean by technology is basically what you can do with the pieces
So let me tell you so much. I don't want to spill here again
But um, I mean you have this ordinal and you have this piece of art and there are so many different ways you can use this
Later on for example, like you can maybe implement it into something else
Uh, fuck around with it and we have thought about something like that and we're gonna definitely bring bring up
Let me say it like that. Uh
Yeah, question for you. Are you are you continuing to work with orderly on this? That was my next question
Hello. Hello. Hello. I lost you there. Oh shit quick question. He wanted to know if you were still working with ordinary
Uh, yes, yes collection. Yes
Yeah, we work on every collection with ordinary like he is our main
Yeah, we we we teamed up we teamed up and and we have a great appreciation for each other
He loves the ideas we bring on the table
And he wants to support us and and we have much more stacked up and planned for this year
Yeah real quick for those who don't know. Um, he's talking about first is talking about very orderly. Ordinally is
One of three people that built the ordinals protocol and continues to build the protocol
um as part of the I think it's now the ordinals foundation, but
Ordinally and raff are the two engineers that were working with casey
Um, you know for many many months before they launched the ordinals protocol. He's an absolute amazing person
um, you know, i've gotten to meet him and hang out with him several times and talk with him and
um, really just that's that's a big piece of this because um
There's very few people in in the ordinals ecosystem that know how to build, you know, like, um
That know the technology technological side of things as well as orderly. I mean he built the protocol
So there's definitely a few a handful of developers out there that I would say are top tier ordinals developers and are probably going to continue
To be there just because of their their tenure and experience
But he's definitely one of them
And so the fact that that you're working with him is is actually pretty pretty interesting like I think
Bullish it's bullish. It's fucking bullish. Yeah
I mean i'll drop some alpha here that that
Ties back to this. So like I know just because i'm pretty active in that discord. I'm a holder on the community side
I'd like to help out h o whenever I can
um, and and I remember when the haha cards came, uh through and so I remember but I know that like
part of ordinary's vision is to actually
Expand orderly and friends and like have artists curated and that's like the friends part of it
So the first question is is this going to be part of like the orderly kind of ecosystem?
Or is it just kind of a of a collaboration and then i'll get to the second part which is more for the audience
Um, no, like this is a collaboration like um, we work together he's supporting us
Um, but let me tell you like another puzzle piece is steven is now part of inscribing atlantis
like uh, basically inscribing atlantis, um
I don't know exactly all the individuals, but um, you know, they they are planning to do a lot of conferences. Um
Things that are planning to do and and it's basically ordinarily
steven is now um part of inscribing atlantis who is going to curate a
bunch of stuff and you know, I I find it hard to what can I say what can
and not I say so it's like
Uh, so so they are they are like basically working together. So so steven is uh working
uh with them and um, so it's it's like a partnership or it's like kind of like we help each other we support each other and
Yeah, what was your second question?
Oh, oh no, I just had a second thing about like I just you know, um,
It really wasn't directed you was just kind of about the whole orderly stuff
Just because uh good things gave a broad, you know
Kind of strokes on on who he is and that he's going to continue building actually he had taken some time away
And plans to be much more active. So I think
from a broad perspective people will start hearing more about very orderly if you haven't already so and um,
I make no, uh, I'm not shy about saying he's my favorite dev on the ordinal side. So pretty stoked that uh,
English dude, i'm i'm telling raf dude, you know raf is the he's like the lead maintainer. So you just oh, I know
Yeah, okay, but like personal relationships mean something to me. So like i'm pretty well invested in that so
Dude, english putting his putting his foot down there. Love it. I've never chatted. I've never chatted with raf
Dude, like I met all of them in in amsterdam and all of them are super nice
You know, like you get a feeling for for for people
Um in real life when you when you meet them and look into their eyes
You know, we have a lot of ego here in this space also. I mean especially what I understand is like developers. Um
Who who are really fucking good?
I mean no wonder, you know that if you have that you have ego, you know, like
it would be it would be crazy if you wouldn't have ego like
you get my point like if you're fucking good like if you're christiano ronaldo or I don't know like
jokovich in tennis all of these people have ego so
You need to have a little bit of ego to be on this fucking level like you get my point
Yeah, I would agree with that it's kind of a driving factor but in a good way
I I guess and I totally totally think it is because in the end we
Badass space here, which is showing that we are truly on chain
And so that was for me for for example my main point
When I got really hooked on ordinals because I was super deep in eve, right?
So I had like over 300 sales or or more single pieces on on on eve
In total and so I was so hooked on first on eve that I had all my collector brace there
Um, but then learning about ordinals what it's really about
What does it really mean to be on chain, but truly on chain?
Um, yeah since then i'm like, okay, what the fuck? I mean
All of the other chains, uh
Yeah, that's that's that's not the same. It's it's just it's just not it is not the same. So, um
And also the programmability, you know, like that you can
Use and work truly on chain program the system and the protocol
Um and do crazy shit. I mean
If you think about pfps what we can do now on ordinals with pfps
It's just a different ballgame. So yeah
Totally totally different ballgame
Yeah, so man, I I can't believe that this is going to be a free mint like this is going to be insane
I to be i'm just being perfectly honest, like I haven't heard too many people talk about this yet
And i'm really grateful that you you came by and were able to share this, you know with our audience and community here
At everything ordinals i'm definitely I mean, I don't know is there going to be an allow
I don't know how much you can say but is there going to be an allow list is this like
Like open mint style like how does how does good things guarantee his spot in in this collection? That's that's really what i'm asking here
I mentioned previously like um
That some communities have been allocated like steven is in charge of all of this allow list and um
Okay, can we get steven on here and and make him pledge to uh to give me steven english and reached out to me
He's the one that reached out to damn in english. Who don't you know here? Let's go
So so I think steven is already sleeping because he's in germany and I think it's now
At night in the middle of the night. He has also a little child and and I think that he told me like dude
you you have to speak because
Uh, because I I cannot make it so I I don't think he's here right now
I I don't see him but listen like so we have a bunch of communities
Um, the biggest community is like I don't know who let me find a list. He sent me I think a list
uh, and and the thing is, you know, all of our hahaha cards holder have obviously like um,
And those people most of those people are coming from communities, right?
So that's how we we went from hahaha cards holder
To those communities from where the hahaha cards are are coming and then to the prints
So I have also like on two gamma, uh artworks with each 81 prints
Where there is by the way a secondary market for both of them
And I also have single edition pieces on bitcoin. Not many I sold my first one for 1.123
Also because of the 123 hahaha cards, so I sold that for that for the same equivalent, uh bitcoin amount
Uh to neuro by the way, uh from neuropunks, you know of a sack of punk ghosts
What else what else is to say? I have a couple of pieces
Yeah, I did some something crazy. I haven't announced it yet nowhere. So I I fucked around with the cursed inscriptions at
Um before the jubilee, so I created a collection
A purely cute cursed inscription inscription collection
Just eight pieces and I I I have a lot kind of like okay, so i'm i'm fucking around with parent child. So I I I will have a
Main hahaha parent child tree and we are going to establish this with ordinelli
Where basically there will be like a hahaha signature and under the hahaha signature
There will be like a child just purely for for art a child just purely for sound a child
Just purely for syntax by syntax. I mean everything with letters
Under the letters there will be different kind of collections and projects and there will be like a burns a purely burns
For everything what is coming over from from eve
How to say like a shadow tree if you could say that like a like a shadow tree to the to the main
But more to that I will maybe announce at a later point because it's actually too much right now, I think
All right. Well, you said quite a you said quite a bit. Um, one of the things you said that you're curating to select communities
Um, you're always welcome. I will chat maybe with steven to see if we get something for the everything ordinals community
I'm pretty deep actually in uh in very ordinary
Assets it's actually I say that I sell a lot of things
That's one thing i've never sold. I i've kept my monkey baby. I've kept my ordinals bought i'm in line for a sub 1k
Uh gang, so that's one asset. I don't sell dude
Regardless of volume when you know, you know, dude, so i'm super excited that you have linked up with him and um
Yeah, look forward to the collection and uh what you got to go
Sheesh english thrown his ass sets on the table here. Um
Thanks so much guys for the opportunity again and yeah, let's chat with steven definitely about um some allocations
Let's go. Let's fucking do it
Dude super excited burst. Thank you so much for coming. Feel free to keep hanging out. I want to go to some other folks
I myself am going to i'm going to be
Visiting the crew at irl alpha i'm going to be doing the uh ordinals are dead stream with uh, the one and only big god
Uh, troy butoshi in a couple hours. So i'm actually going to like while we're on the space
I'm gonna have to get into an uber at some point here
Um, so at some point i'm just going to kind of like throw the wheel to english and polymath
But we got so many great people up here witters came up right away
Uh, she's one of the captains of of team dead cat. I think my favorite captain not afraid to say that uh, donnie
I'm, uh, I apologize sanj, you know, no worries, but witters witters takes it. Um, witters, how are you doing?
And what do we need to do to get these cats?
What the fuck was that dude that was fucking johnny cash
That was johnny cash before before no, I understood but I just it was unexpected
So just so you guys know like I get to see all these like chats that goes on
And like witters is like the only like rogue element
She's like the wild card in this like I just don't know what to expect when she's you watch. It's always sunny, dude
Witters is fucking charlie, dude. She's the fucking wild card
That is like the best compliment because I love always sunny and I love love charlie
So that that is absolutely um, I I try wild card, baby
Um, so just saw and i'm getting ready to tweet. Um, hashtag i'm dead is trending on twitter
So go team dad. Let's go team dad. I think we're all good up here
I think we can make this look like a team dead space
I don't see any of the op in the audience. Oh, nope
Yeah, it's funny the team alive, you know, like they're they're they're namesake, right?
They're alive, but I don't I don't see them on the timeline dude. All I see is dead
So, you know kind of interesting but yeah witters go ahead. Uh, I are you you're tweeting out right now like uh
Do we need to just assemble behind you? Is that what we need to do? I know. Yeah
I uh, i'm getting the the pick ready and uh, i'm gonna just dunk on all these fools
Terry Terry is thumbing down aggressively. I never see
I've known terry for a very long time and when she joined team alive
I have never been more upset. Um, we'll convert her. It's fine when she realizes she's on the losing team. Um
Um, but yeah, it's it's been a lot. I will say that it's um wrangling humans is
a difficult task to say the least but
Uh, it's been really fun and there are a lot of creative people
In the space and you don't really get to see that until everybody's kind of working on the same thing
And when it's kind of when it's your job to do
to look at everything, uh, you actually get to to see what people that you interact with on a day-to-day basis and what they're capable of and
It's really cool to see. Uh, so
You know tap fruit wizards did an amazing job coming up with this as the as q4
Yeah, it's pretty sick. I'll post up the tweet up at in the top
Withers from from a captain's perspective, um, because I have a kind of this top overview
Like do you feel that people are are understanding like the difference between like quest two quest three like what they're supposed to do
Are you still getting a lot of questions?
This thing seemed kind of clear because i'm getting a lot of dms that people are not clear
And i'm just curious like in the actual like team dead headquarters. What's the vibe like?
Yeah, um, I think a lot of um
A lot of the questions is like can I can I work with someone?
on this especially the more technical stuff and I
I think that like working in teams is definitely
Like amazing. It's just uh giving credit where credit is due, right? And then um,
Making sure I mean you're essentially your submissions are
Individual so you're being kind of judged on your individual submissions
Whenever people are like trying to figure out one thing is like
Reading just reading the instructions and um, I think I tweeted this out yesterday
So the the part three you have to submit a video
And a lot of people were submitting just like poster images and so that isn't counted
Um, and so like I let you know as many people that I saw that were doing that
Um, but for the most part it
I feel like at least a team dead. Uh, they get it and they're
You know just working hard and a lot of people are you know sandbagging because
the the best content at the end is going to be seen the most because uh, I feel like
If you submitted like super early unless it was just like bomb
We're all going to get uh infiltrated with with so much
but what the cool thing is or like I think both teams, um are essentially doing this is like
whenever you make a submission, uh, it goes into a
And then at least team dead, uh, each of the captains kind of gives it a score
Based on like depth of content, you know
The meme ability or the the virality of it. Um, there there's a bunch of different
kind of like things that that we judge it on. Um,
A score and then so like the total score
At the end we either uh submit to the the team
funneling information and giving the team
Because it i'm sure that it is absolutely wild
Just let me ask you this. Let me just ask you this
So like when you're judging are you judging two and three because two is content as well
It's just doesn't have to be video, right?
So it could be like your submission like in a forum. It could be a thread
It could be potentially like a spaces then you guys are
Talking about the pros and cons of opcat what alternatives so i'll give an example that I saw earlier from team alive
And I know you're not on team alive, but this was an example
So there was a spaces and they were starting to discuss
Um, you know opcat and then like a dev came on and he like oh pine a little bit eric eventually joined
Rindell eventually joined and they had a pretty robust conversation
So who gets credit for that? Like if that was like a team dead thing
Is it the co-host the co-host anybody that came up and and chatted on there?
Like how would you divide credit?
Like if if that spaces went on and there was five people talking and they all like took an audio clip or something and used it
Like how do you judge who added the most is that part of the spreadsheet or is that judging only for part three?
Which is like the meme video
That's a really good question. And I haven't personally seen
Just go through the same the same parameters. Um, just to like make it like super fair
Um, it is it you know, how how deep of a conversation was it? Is it something?
Um, like if it's like a whole space is you know 30 minute long clip
Like nobody can really uh keep keep their attention for that long so that it wouldn't get a good score and like virality and um
You know, so like it it just depends. Um on
What is submitted and I haven't seen anything like that
But I feel like what we have are like our judging mechanisms that are in place could
Be across the board to any kind of um content that is produced
So so so you do want an entertainment factor at least to like rise above the other ones even for part two like I
To me, I think it's pretty clear that three needs like that virality meme humor
Just to kind of get it out there part two seems to be more like research and more robust in terms of like the intellectual side
Are you still looking for?
Um, I guess content that's also viral and educational
Would say yes, or just and that is just my own opinion. Um for each of the parameters
um, I think that you can do something in depth that is like aesthetically pleasing or
um entertaining, um, that's my own personal view and
Um, then, you know the the other submissions
I would give that at a higher score. Um
But I mean at the end of the day it
There's so many talented people and the the talents are so diverse
That you could really absolutely knock it out of the park in in any or all of them. And um, so
It it's kind of it's really just do a good job
Yeah, just do a good job and be let's get down. Let's get down to brass sax here. How much bitcoins are going to take litters?
I unfortunately can't be bought. Um, and it is not that was a test and you pass
I wish I could be bought as much as it was like four hours ago. So it's english. Stop flooding the coin
I'm, just letting everybody know that their bags are down at the moment if they haven't looked
This is everything horrible is not everything's depressing. Um
Yeah, no, I I agree with with what you're saying witters like there's there's a lot of opportunity here
And that's what's freaking exciting about it. Like i've been saying it the last couple days
But it it really just reminds me of like
Like school like not like shitty school, but when I was in you know, when I was in academia
Like like people who are really excited to learn obviously, there's a financial, um incentive there
But there should be like there should be an incentive
To get people to do work right just like bitcoin. There's an incentive for people to mine
Um and and protect the you know, the uh, the network and like actually serve the community that is using the network
So I think this is like this is a really beautiful system that they they developed and to get to get like amazing people like you
Like elizabeth like yon, you know, i'm forgetting all the captains
But like if you look at the teams of alive and dead like these are like these are high quality top level people
That are representing and helping, you know steward along this challenge. So i'm excited myself
Um, i'm trying to find a printer desperately that will print out some cat pictures for me
Um, and then you know, I've got me and patrick. We gotta we gotta we gotta work on something, dude
I don't know i'm not going to be in las vegas in time, but maybe we can do some sort of virtual thing
We we uh, is it possible to team up? Is that a bad idea or is it me versus patrick?
Think that you can team up just to credit everybody that worked on it and make sure everybody's pulling their own way
It's it's kind of like you're back in school and you like have the one
team member that just like
But i'm on the strip i live on the strip so we're gonna be looking for cats in the casinos
I got I got a couple cool ideas. So I think i have to take this one now, buddy
I think it's stronger as a team
What you just don't want to do is like have like 10 people on your team
And then it's like you don't know who did what right?
But like if you work like one two three people and it's clear that both, you know
Two or three of you are doing the equal work. You're in the video. You're doing whatever that's really easy to like things
But if you have like 15 people and then one submission
And then it's kind of like really vague what anybody did
Like it's obviously that people are just trying to like gain the system
So I would encourage teamwork just do what you got to do and put in the work
Well, let me ask Patrick this you may live on a strip, but are you going to be traveling to multiple?
Uh, you know metropolitan centers of the world over the next couple days because I am
Well, technically living in lot of vegans. I get to go to paris at the car
I get to go to the carvapologist. I get to go to the new york new york
I get to go to all the things like I would get to go to room at the seizure palace
So technically I will be traveling all over the world. All right. All right. Patrick's gonna kill it. God damn it
Anyways, yeah, sorry, sorry, like this dismantle everything that was happening there withers. Um, really really appreciate everything you're doing
You know, I know there's a lot of people that like we're we're kind of building this this uh
A lot of a lot of folks here do know each other but not everyone does
I know we just kind of like went through what you're working on in in within this quantum cats project
You know, it's kind of like uh, I don't know how to characterize it, but you're you're definitely like a steward there
Um, but I would love if you could just touch on
To captain. Yeah, okay. That was that was the right word. That's what that's your official title. That's the official title
I saw I saw that you described. Um the piece that you did up in miami for art basil
can you share with us a little bit about that and uh, are you going to turn it to like a parent and distribute some children or
Um, you know what's going on there because i'm definitely looking forward to collecting the piece that you dropped so you can
Yeah, that's kind of what I was trying to get that's what I was trying to get to is like who is withers
You know, like I want people to know who withers is like I I know her from you know
Different stages we've been on and following her
But I want the rest of the audience to know in our community to know like who who is who is this withers?
Talking about myself. I'm not very good at I can hype other people up but myself not so great
I'm gonna hype up withers and withers is an amazing fucking artist. Um, she does physical work. I've seen some of her mural work
It's incredible. Uh, but she's also an on-chain artist. Um
yeah, so yeah, I am i'm a street artist and I have my own gallery where I do uh, like traditional, uh canvas art
That i've been doing on chain. Um, actually have not inscribed yet. Um, I have my first inscription will be
The parent to my gamma drop or my gamma print drop
inscribing my collection order
and uh, the gamma print will act as a
Kind of like a raffle into because I hold 10 of my my eth
um art and I like to keep everything like super small and quantity like I if you've got a withers piece then like you're
You're like literally on top because I don't let that out very
My current eth holders a lot of them never have participated on bitcoin and just been setting up
kind of like one-on-one, uh white glove treatment to to my um eth holders and they burn
Um my ordinal collection and so those are your freed for them and um
so and then like you could win a free, um order order is the the art collection that i'm putting on bitcoin
Yeah, so that I mean just to be clear drawn out your new collection is going to be called order. That's the name of it
Yeah, because I um within my street art I do a lot of
um a art integration. So i'm signed by justin frederick's company art house that is rep by wme
He augments all of my art. Um, my ordinals will be augmented. Uh, my murals
So the one that I just completed in miami
Um, uh is augmented and then the one um in la i'm painting at a very well-known gallery
Um in la and we're going to actually
Uh do wall to wallet so as part of the minting process
If you actually go to the wall to one of my installations, um, you can be able to mint from there before anybody else
Um wish I could have you know
Hopped around to as many different places as I could have before mint. Um
But you know in the future any of my murals
Will be this same process. So, um
As long as like nobody tags over the qr code, I don't know
It that that's what the beauty of putting street art on chain
Um, it's permanent and when I met casey
at the at neuro's house party in miami like it um, that's a one thing that I told him I was like
I don't have to worry about returning a 404 and I don't have to worry about
Um because now it's on chain. Um, or it will be
When you say augmented, what do you mean by that? Like I think my mind goes to like augmented reality
But that's probably not what you mean. Yeah, that that's exactly it. So, um
so the the mural actually like comes alive, uh, once you scan the qr code and uh,
encapsulates the the viewer in a way that I can like tell the story that's behind it and all of my murals
That are going on chain have some sort of
historical significance, uh, either written on them
Or is about something that either like how finny or satoshi, you know wrote in those those very first
Correspondents like the mailing list
Um and the the beginning of bitcoin and so like the one in miami, right that one has the
publication of the bitcoin white paper
And the link still works. Um, so like um, i'm now on like one of those golf court golf
Cart tours and so like anybody
That goes on one of those tours and ends up they can actually read the bitcoin white paper
Um, which I think is like super dope. Um
Yeah, because I feel like for anything that you're doing like especially in crypto reading the white paper like seeing exactly what?
With what it what you're buying especially um, it it's super helpful
No, no, I love this concept of uh, I actually got me very excited
I'm very sad you didn't come do a wall to wallet piece in las vegas. Um
But so how'd you come up with this concept? I think this sounds so so dope so people can go to your murals
Scan a code and then like explain like the process. I got I might gotta come to la so I can get one
But yeah, tell me about it. Yeah, absolutely. Um, so it's exactly what you said. So, um as part of
Art houses technology within the layers
That you can add to like not only is it just like a seamless transition into the art that
So one thing that I forgot
I'm, so convoluted and I operate on so many different wavelengths that I forget a lot of things. Um
so whenever you scan the qr code
It changes the mural into a video the video is actually a hand-drawn stop motion that I
And so that is another part of like the storytelling aspect. Um
Um, so you can swipe so like pretend everybody put on your imagination hat
And you're looking through your phone and you're seeing this like dope ass video that took
Days and days, uh for only about seven seconds. That's on a loop
And then you swipe and then you just swipe, uh, right and then it pops up a um
kind of like a video of like me completing it and then you can swipe right again and you can go to like
Mint link so it'd be like magic evener or gamma
Um haven't decided which one i'm going with yet. Um, it might be
Well, i'm not gonna say what that is. Um
And then uh, you can also swipe again for like to purchase um
Like different like merch that has elements of the mural on it. Um, or like physicals
So like prints actual physical canvas prints of the art. Um, so it's all like kind of integrated
Just kind of like expands the art that I mean, it's like so massive that you can't you obviously can't take it with you
within the the layers of the ar
Um, how long how long did it take to put this together?
And I also want to actually like the one you do it in mind. I really love so so much
Um, how long does it take you to do your um?
Um, like work like how how long did that one take in in Miami?
Yeah, so that took a week. Um
Mm-hmm. I I would be much quicker. Um, I wanted all of my friends and anybody else that like
You know you you want to meet um, or you I wanted to onboard as many people to like just spray paint
Um spray paint and bitcoin those are like my two and ar those are my three little staples. Um,
And so I had a lot of like first time. Um, like graffiti artists or like, um users of spray paint
Come and we just kind of like graffitied the whole wall
Um, and I wanted those things, uh to kind of like shine through just a little bit
So like when I inscribe i'm inscribing that memory that like we shared together
Just working with everybody's different schedules and and waiting for people to to pull pull up
It was just uh, it took a little bit longer
A mural that size would take me essentially probably like four days if everything was like on schedule and running
um, and so that's 20 foot by
So it was about it was like 20 foot by 12 feet
what was the size of that mural and um
yeah, so uh, but the the drawing especially the the animation for each one
Has taken me since may of last year. So
Then i've only got like two more sets left and i'll be done
Yeah, how many how many pieces is this? I know you say keep it as close as but how many?
Total is it probably wants to know if he's gonna get a piece. That's what he wants to know
He wants to know does he have to sweet talk you in the dns? What does he have to do?
So it's a collection of 69 half of them will be going to my eth holders
Um, so 30 about 35 will be available. It's 34 and a half. Yeah 34
Someone's gonna get half half a half a
Uh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Why why 69? What's special about that number?
Um, oh dude, I've heard winners get like pretty like
raunchy and one of my spaces actually it was a taproot wizard community space and
That's why I teed it up there was like body body fluids being discussed and um, yeah, I enjoyed it
But yeah, go ahead. Go ahead waiters. What's special about what's special to you about 69 now? What's special about 69?
What makes 69 special to you?
Um, so this is actually really funny. Um
The number 69 follows me and I don't mean that like even before I knew
Kind of positions a body could get in
though those two numbers six and nine followed me everywhere it in randomly generated phone like my first phone number
Um, it had it in it the next one
Um it completely randomly generated it was in it. Um, there are there's so many different
Aspects, um, and I know it's funny, but it actually like I think we all
Um have those numbers that follow us around maybe you were born with that like in you
So this is my my my first thought here's my analogy
So, you know, like when you start dating somebody or something and they have like a specific car and you haven't seen like that car
Like that often but now you see it everywhere like you drive
So like they have like, you know, whatever it is
So like they drive a lexus and you didn't see it before so I think somehow or another you were always able to see
69 even though you didn't understand
Um, maybe certain connotations of that number
So, um, I think you're biologically driven to understand 69 in a fundamental way that we just can't understand
That's my thesis at least and i'm gonna stick with it
Exactly. Yeah, and real quick real quick. Uh, the people in the room. We got withers on stage. We got burst
We got keen off grab y'all. We got a great show going
My man h o just came up in the rooms
You know, you know share share share go ahead. It is the best way to support the space. Um
My two co-hosts here will say to like retweet
I hope that you do if you do enjoy it get some value at it
It is an easy way to support the space even if you're not getting value, dude. Yeah, I know we have different
Yeah, all right fair enough fucking button bro
All right. We'll get king r king king r will be i'm just not i'm not built that way
I have a hard time shilling myself. Uh, the space is built i'm different bro
I'm chilling dude. That's been a dope day. Uh, i'm doing fucking nifty island things, right? And then my island bitcoin blooms
Yeah, i've been on it non-stop. Uh, i'm gonna be farming that shit a lot
But i'm i'm making like a bitcoin themed island. So it's like the water's orange
I paid blooms to make the sky orange and i'm doing a whole thing
But I think I can I think I could do cool shit
I was talking to the guy who made it right
And they're gonna be doing stuff where you could like token gate like quests and stuff on your island
And I was asking him about like if you could like maybe live stream eventually like put a screen up
And like, you know like live stream something you're doing on your island and he was like, that's a really good fucking idea
So i'm hoping he does that but uh, you can put whatever you want like your own 3d assets and stuff like that
So i'm really thinking how I could like, you know, do some bitcoin themed things do some fun shit
Also farm the fuck out of this token or whatever. It's fun though
It's good that you brought that up. So even though it's not it's not bitcoin ordinal specific
There are a few projects that are um that are cross chain and gaming specifically we did mention in the show far canna
I'm probably gonna do an ama with them right before they're mint
Um, some of these people from extra ordinals had reached out
So so look forward to that, but they have like a token that's associated with their project
They also have like, uh, they're fundamentally a gaming company
So, um interesting to see where the tech leads in ordinals for gaming for tokens for all these stuff that we see
That's pretty easy on eath just because they have the tools they have
Maybe even the infrastructure leading back to like opcat and interoperability and things that you can do from like a smart contract level
Um, so I think we're gonna start seeing more and more of this
so I wouldn't be surprised if you can like lead like your puppet army that you control and take them over to like this uh
This uh nifty island that was dope
So it's not even like the publicist here like like you just send the link and people can join whenever you know
And then uh, like randomly people just come up and like start like doing stuff on your island
Like I set up like a it's what is it like a mempole marathon where it's like a race through a bunch of uh ponds, right?
Whatever like bitcoin themed shit
And then people show up and they just start playing these things because it's like farming which whatever island you're on
So like I could I could like shoehorn alpha in there or like
Like I was thinking like whitelist and like different things
Like how could I do something where I could give something away where you'd have to go to this island find it
And then you have a whitelist or whatever or something like that
But there's a lot of interesting things you could do there, right? And um
Like I just spreading the word of bitcoin on there like how do I get
Some bitcoin and meffers in there or like do certain events there that might be within what i'm trying to do here
You know, it's uh, I think it's cool
And something a lot of people are gonna sleep on it first
And that's why i'm trying to grind it every single day like i've got it like planned in my day
You can like every hour you can do certain things, you know, so yeah all that bullshit farming
But really what if you can like teach people about ordinals if uh, you had like a room
In there that you could do like text and like I could include the ordinal handbook somewhere in there
I don't know. I think there's a bunch of cool shit you do. So i'm gonna focus on that while farming building fun stuff and
Still hunting whitelist and everything else. But yeah when you say farming is there like
Some kind of like financial incentive to to be on that platform 100 percent. So they got 20 million dollars, uh
From you know seed rounds and shit like that
They've been around for like two years building this thing and like every hour you play or whatever there's points
Like there's a whole airdrop system, right?
So you can like go look at that they have tweets with threads that like explain
All of the different tiers and everything like that
But yeah, it's a it's an airdrop thing. Uh, the thing that I like about it though is it's like free to play
So say I make a really good island
That's just like enjoyable for somebody that wants to come back to it like that matters for the airdrop
So there's it's kind of like if you put in work and make something really
Fun that somebody's going to use like you could probably do a way better job farming than people who are going to kind of sit
On the sidelines is the way i'm looking at it
Yeah, the free to play model especially for like these like land makes a lot more sense from from, you know, chatting you don't buy land, right?
You don't buy anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was getting at like I they
They were kind enough to sponsor a show I did with dancy neti on on sunday
Partly because of jonah who's who's been brokering those the sponsorship. So shout out to them
But yeah, no, they were kind of just chatting about
Uh, no land kind of that free to play model
I've always kind of been bearish on the that idea of like scarcity land and then people just sit on it
They don't build anything because they're just hoping that somebody buys their bags
And so you have like this problem and i've heard like all these complex solutions about like implementing attacks and doing all that
If you don't build and I just think people don't want complication, right?
Just make like a free kind of land and then people will go to maybe your specific one if you build something dope
Right and you make into you know, there's a lot of interoperability damn
I had trouble with that word interoperability with other platforms with other avatars other, you know, ip
And it just makes sense right like everybody goes there. You don't have to like stick in one community. So
Pretty cool to see them do that on the ethereum side
Definitely would like to see some some more stuff like that on the ordinal side. So
Thanks for bringing that to our attention
Terrainz are above mint shout out
To thank ux who's been on the show two or three times and is a kind guy and got to hear his story
Has tons of supporters both from the art community the collector community. So that's roughly a 2x
So if you got in congratulations, we do have the pizza ninjas coming up. Obviously trevor's
Project, I think a lot of people are excited about that
I'll just kind of throw it to anybody that's here on the speakers like anybody minty ninjas. What's our feeling?
Do a puppet loaning and big coin or loaning and borrowing and it's been going pretty deep. I actually really like liquidium
That's all that i'm really on other than uh, you know
Are you only doing puppets because you feel bullish or you feel comfortable with that and you understand very comfortable, bro
Like i'm just like i'm comfortable with the
Pumps man, like I know I could just feel where it's at. You know what I mean? Like i'm watching. Okay, you have a good feeling of it
Yeah, yeah, that makes sense lay it easily
Like I don't really know a lot of collections like comfortably where I want to trade in and out and shit like that
But with this like yeah, just I can tell when you know people are gonna start getting embarrassed
There's not much sales. It just makes sense to me right now
So and it's working right it's working. So i'm not gonna stop no, of course
You know what? It actually reminds me of it reminds me like a different version of the serious
Strategy where he was like flipping like, you know, lazy lions and he made like a ton of money
Like if you're familiar with that like back in 2021
He like he knew that collection so well that the moment that it went listed
He was able to buy it because he knew if it was under priced and he knew that within 24 hours
You know, he could flip it for for profits, right?
That was part of his metric
But the analogy is not that because the analogy really has to do with knowing a collection
Well, and your specific knowledge of that collection gives you an edge over somebody else. So in this particular case, it's kind of similar
You understand the market the demand, you know what price is high, you know
It's low, you know when volumes kind of running when it's probably going to retrace and you have your edge
Which is kind of what I had said about
You know where i'm spending my time and ordinals like I have a lot of strong networks and ordinals that I might not have
The equivalent on ethereum. So even though there's plays on ethereum, even though there's plays on salona
Like I might toss some salona shit coins for fun
Like I focus on orbitals because that's that's definitely my strength and it's good that you have a feel on that
I do see that z's back up here and has his hand up z what's going on friend?
Hey, just you guys mentioned the ninjas and I just want to you know provide a little feedback
I've been i've been in it since when ordinals were dead in the summer
And you know this mint day. It's it's it's very exciting
What I think is going to be a you know, and I'll pose this to a question for you guys because I think it's gonna be
an interesting phenomenon
There is realistically it's only going to be a one-to-one ratio for the 1500 mints
There's very few is going to have two mints. So it's probably going to be 95
and I I don't think that that's happened yet in in a mentor on the secondary market, so it's like
Is the volume going to stall is volume going to go up?
But I look at it, you know bullish signs, but I want to hear hear what you guys think
Um, so my opinion just looking at collections over time
So, um, I think it's going to have lower volume just because of the nature of the collection. It's it's 1500
So what happens is they're going to have people that want to hold regardless and they're not really that much interested
And so you're going to have the collection move up in price pretty fast and that slows down volume because you need buyers to step in
So really like I don't think that the distribution is going to be a volume
I think anybody that puts a pfp that's at that level is going to have lower volume than than something that has
You know a higher quantity. I also do think that that might play a factor into to like decreasing volume
I don't really believe that it will make an effect on on the price point. I I have this theory that
um, you know, it's like the law the law of large numbers or um, if i'll give you an an analogy, so
What's the price of you know, what's the price of the collection? What should the floor be?
So like in the circus they would you know do like a
Like a jar and it had like balls or marbles or whatever and people would guess and some people would guess 500 some people would come
Like 5 000 some people would guess like, you know 100 and then all these crayons
But if you add all of those together and you divide it, it actually comes out pretty equal
So I think really the value of the collection is just going to be the collective
Um, you know price from the market from all these wide range of it
So in terms of floor price, I don't think that it really makes a difference the size of your collection
What it actually has to offer in terms of value for a wide variety of people that are in the market that might have
One opinion someone else has a different opinion of the art of the utility. Um, I just think at a 1500 and probably a high
Holder count in terms of unique holders, um, it might it might slow it down
But I don't think that that affects, you know floor price if that's kind of what you were getting at
um, and I also believe that
I've seen this trend before
If it's if it's a collection that's pretty well sought after if it's at 20 percent
I think it'll normally go up to 40 50 just by nature and if it's at 80 percent, I think it'll drop down to like
I think things just gravitate towards that because there's going to people that want to own one and there's going to be people that
Want to hold old multiples and I think that'll be true of this collection as well
No, I can't before I chimed in so I wanted to give a non-opportunities hand was up to speak because I want to give him opportunity to uh
You know a time in real quick
And I thought they they moved off of what I was going to talk about to finish up the ninja conversation
All right, let's let's talk a little ninjas and then we'll get back to your thought. We don't want to throw that out of the way
Um, yeah, so that's my thoughts. I don't know if you have any particular thoughts. Yeah
I'll just end with that. I I kind of do tend to agree. I think that the lower supply
In in a good way more stable
Uh, I think it was just one of those I think it's one of those projects that it's going to be increasing value over time
where you don't have to worry about the volatility as much but um
Just super excited for uh, this because it's one of those projects where I just went randomly made a piece of pizza video
This summer and look where it got. Yeah
Yeah, no doubt if anybody has any other pizza thoughts if not, uh, we'll go back
Uh to our previous speaker even if it's a different topic. That's fine, dude. Uh, what are your thoughts?
Dude, ninja turtles is one of the most
Loved thing ever to come out of the late 80s early 90s
So any association with even like, you know, just a meager association with ninja turtles to me is bullish
But i'll go back to a and it is it is pizza ninjas and pizza ninjas it is
It is ninja turtles adjacent. I would definitely agree with that
Um, and I think in a good way, like you said dude, I think it's not like it's enough for the vibe, right?
So you get like the vibe, but it's obviously a unique collection and has its own, you know art. That's distinctive. So
A couple speakers up here. I don't know if you had anything to chime in a nwn. You've had you a couple times
Yeah, so uh earlier arth was talking about how obviously he has a puppet
I assume he has multiple but you also like lending on them
So I was curious what your strategy is there like why wouldn't you just max allocate to longing them?
Versus you keep some of your btc sidelines to do lending too. Yeah, so like
Everybody stay off of liquidity. I'm trying to
We're gonna rename this the good things show
I ain't having it but not like look it's I really like the idea of just like because you can put in offers on
Magic eating that's been a thing for a long time, whatever
But you can just give out loans and people can go lose that money somewhere and not pay it back
And then you can get like basically a free puppet
Which is generally gonna be in my opinion
If I think I know the floor's not gonna dip bro, like i'm gonna try to do that
So then i'll just get like paper handed one for free because I can't they're gonna default that loan
And if they don't default the loan then I farm points and I get the bitcoin back with the interest
That's just stupid bullish and I don't really have to worry about it
Like I can look and be like, okay
This loan is way low compared to where it's going to be and like the time, you know, blah blah blah
So it's the strategy is just it's working
Honestly, uh, I went into it just trying it out like experimenting, right? And um
Like generally like I have enough to where I could like sell a huge pump and then start playing with that liquidity by like
Lending it out and then I end up like buying another puppet or getting a puppet anyway
So it all has evened out and been really dope
But I really like a quickie up man. Like yeah good things
I don't know what to tell you bro, because all the homies are on it now
I did fucking I got one. That's just he's just fucking he's going stupid though. Like he's like
Lending he's like borrowing and they're buying another puppet. He's just doing crazy like leverage, but he's doing well
He's got hella points. Uh, but I don't know what that's gonna be like. I'm just bullish on the airdrop
I'm gonna be honest like it's right like it's i'm pretty sure it's gonna be a very very good one
So i'm definitely gonna participate and you also have a chance to get like things on a discount and not just puppets like yalla
Was telling me you could do bitmaps. I didn't even know that
So that's really bullish, right? Because if you have a bunch of bitmaps, like there's a lot you could do there
I guess I don't really know how that goes
When trading those because i'm not doing it, but that's an option
So I think there's a lot of room for a lot of people to get in that don't even know
Um, so yeah, I don't know
No, I was gonna say i'm glad that you framed it that way because that's kind of what that I was saying when
When when you just say loaning on there, like people have like one concept
But if you can frame it in a way that they understand so like I like the the the analogy to like bidding
So if you go to openc, you know, if you're familiar with ethereum, and i'm assuming most people you go to openc you put a bid
Best case scenario you get the asset that you want worst case you just wasted your time and really didn't do anything
Move that up to like a second kind of thing blur farming. Okay. Well, you're doing the same thing
Maybe you get the asset that you want, but you're also farming airdrops
So this is kind of like the basically the same thing, but it's even better because it's a triple threat
So not only might you get the asset that you want you're also getting the airdrop like blur
But then at the same time if that doesn't go through you get the airdrop points and you get interest on the loan
So effectively that's really like a triple type of threat
And then on top of that i'll add one fourth thing that most people will not dump into a bid
That's low like 50 but people will take out a loan and only give you 50 50 or 40 or whatever
It's going, you know for nowadays
So you'll actually acquire that asset cheaper than if you were just to throw out a bid
It's a psychological thing when you throw out a bid people assume they want your asset
And so you're like less inclined to do it
But when you take out a loan on it and then they might default for whatever reason, um, you know
They're overextended. Whatever the case may be they forget. I don't know
And you got the points so it's kind of like this no-brainer play but it takes a little bit more effort
So in this space i've noticed that when there's a little bit more friction
There's less people participating which means more opportunity for you
That's what i'm saying, bro. I'm saturn too, right like saturn i've been doing the sats thing
I don't even like uh because they have their ring token and then the puppets also got rug
There's just a lot of things going on on bitcoin where I think it's worth farming probably more than most things right now
So i'm definitely spending a lot of time with that
You know, how how is the trading on saturn because I haven't actually traded there yet
What's the fucking lit like, uh, I just be trading stats back and forth pizza sets these set whatever other stats you want to get
Uh, I think it's a really good platform. Like it's interesting, right?
It's easy to use and it's fluid
It's working for me bro. And like yeah, i'm like i'm essentially just farming the points swapping back and forth
Yeah, no i'm asking because this is this is alpha for everybody like including myself because I i've been accumulating
You know, like I put out that video on how to for people to sign up
So i've got a multiplier off of people using my link
But if people want to get get into not only the rug airdrop, but also there's gonna be multiple airdrops
Um farming points there is like that's the way
Way to go. So appreciate you bringing that up, man
Good things. Do you know if it's too late to to put that utxo deposit because mine it's not it's not. Okay
Yeah, so everybody should like honestly everybody should do this like
Um, definitely be aware, you know that like I don't speak for the platform. I don't work for them
Um, so I can't speak to like there's some people who are like
Node-munks holders who are understandably concerned about their assets if they connect their wallet with containing a node monk, but
There may be a way around that so I would direct people to go to the saturn discord
Just go to uh, i'll pin my tweet to the top and you can
go to their account and find your way to their discord, but
But basically, uh, there's gonna be it's gonna be multiple airdrops and this first airdrop is the biggest airdrop in bitcoin history
As far as I understand we had archon on earlier in the week and there's over a hundred thousand wallets that they have
Um, not all those wallets I think are connected to the platform yet, but I imagine
Um, if shit goes wild like I think it might then a lot of those will get connected
They will create their accounts as far as I know
Um, you have to have it like connected and make the deposit in order to get the airdrop
I don't know if you can do that retroactively once, you know
I don't know if they're just gonna airdrop to every single wallet that is part of there's a cutoff
There's a cutoff at some point
But I just know speaking with archon that has kind of been pushed back and I don't think that they've announced when that cutoff is
And that's why I was asking announce it but dude, I talked to him, you know before we had him on the show the other day
It's coming like it's coming like soon
Yeah, I got to get some clarity on that and as soon as I got clarity
I'll talk about it here because my node monkeys are in a different wallet
One that I actually connected to because I have them in a separate one
And so yeah, I got to make sure to get those just because like he said if you do have node monkeys
That's probably going to be the number one collection for max points per item just based on floor price and volume
So like floor prices is important, but so is volume and so given that it's the number one collection in terms of volume
And so if you no matter what I just even if you're not holding one of these collections
That's uh, that's going to receive the airdrop you can still farm points and get become a part of it
Through training platform like king rf is talking so I recommend like I truly recommend people explore it
You know and think about it because this thing I don't know
Nobody knows what it's going to do
But it's the biggest airdrop in bitcoin history as far as I know and it's the first rug is the first token being launched
As part of saturn's rings protocol, which is another kind of
Fungible token protocol as far as I know but this is this is potentially one of the biggest like liquidity events that we've seen
And we've already seen a few this year
So yeah, that's kind of my my perspective on it and I definitely recommend people check it out
I'll pin up my tweet to the top
Like like so like the thing is is a cheap thing to do like it was it's I think it was like 43 bucks in bitcoin
Like every time you set up a trading account
So like you could just set up all those accounts, right?
And then like those are set up and they're active because you put oh, what was it?
100,000 sats or whatever and that's it's really all you got to do, right?
And then like i've been trading on it as well though and just like swapping from pizzas or whatever else
And doing the things on the platform to write like just extract as many points as I can
For sent airdrops that are coming, right? I think you're right
It's like not doing it is a little bit silly. And if you're like scared, maybe use a
Maybe just use like a rugged wallet. Okay, just use like a burner bitcoin wallet move funds into that and then
Like interact there, I guess just so you're at least eligible somewhere
Yeah, no doubt and and just to be clear like yeah, you put that that utxo in but that's just holding it
And obviously you can withdraw that later on. So it's not like you're even paying that
You do have to make sure that you have enough in your wallet. I guess you can add up a few utxos
I do think they have that feature
But pretty cool. Let's do this. Let's go over to toot. We haven't heard from toot
And then if there's nobody else that wants to chime in we are about an hour and a half into the show
We'll start wrapping things up to what's on your mind. Yo, um king are for liquidity
Um, when you when you put any funds on the on the platform
Does it how does it work? It does it add the funds as if you're you're loaned the amount on liquidity?
Um, so if somebody like defaults on their loan you get the money quick
It's not like you get the fucking actual bitcoin
You're getting funds that that are through the actual platform so that you're able to like do this at a faster
Pace like blur does right you
Or how how does that work? Yeah, they've got it. Yeah, dude
It's like it's not you're not gonna be like waiting and shit like yeah, it's it's fluid
You know what I mean? Like it's there's no issues. I haven't run into shit like that
Okay, and then the other thing is I know you guys talked to them a lot more than I did today
In at a coin at all or not a coin. Well, there's points, right? So
I mean like I I haven't really heard them like outright
Together basically, so we had we had robin we had robin on here
When I asked the question directly basically was saying I can't tell you that there's an airdrop because we haven't announced that there's an airdrop
But there are points guys and we do do all the other stuff that everyone else does when you accumulate points
Um, that's what that's what I heard. So I mean so he was vocally saying no, but he was nodding his head
Bro, come on we talked about this dude. There's an airdrop coming. That's how I interpreted
You're welcome to interpret it how you want to interpret it. He literally said there's no answer to that question
However, we do have points and we do want to
Reward people that use our platform. So do what you will with that information. Yeah. Yeah
I mean, obviously it hasn't been announced but um coup capital who's an advisor for liquidium has been on multiple stages
um, you know doing his doing his his plug for them which he should be doing as an advisor, but
The team behind them is is definitely like these are legendary builders in the making
Um, they're you know, they're actually invested. Uh,
Trevor's bitcoin frontier fund is one of their investors. I believe uh utxo management
I could be wrong, but I think they invested utxo management is the investment arm of bitcoin magazine
Um, and yeah, so I mean there's only one way for them to really
Um, they can do it off chain, but I don't see them doing that like they're they're very like bitcoin
Uh ethos centric about you know decentralization and ownership and all that so
It's just kind of a logical step. They're they're going to do an airdrop
All right. So I hope that answers your question. We have a burst with the hand of what's on your now
What's on your mind burst?
Yo, I just wanted to um, put a note, uh about the pizza ninjas and about you know, the 95%
to um, you know, it's like you can manage one or two unique holders. Yeah, exactly
So I just wanted to say like maybe you even don't want to
You have more utility to it. I'm not affiliated with a piece of ninjas
But for example us with uh heart effects
Like the hard cards holders. We we give them
More than just like owning a piece of art, right?
So right now we are rolling out for example merge
So the people will get unique merge and actually with the hard cards the the holders will also
Uh get the unique artwork like the physical because there is a physical attached to each piece
So I think you can do much more than that. Um, they are just two cents about
um, can you know provide much more than just like
Holding something and then I mean if you can farm it's also great
But um, and also yeah, I mean it's all about that right the the great project they have a strong community
They they have meetups. They they provide value to the community and eventually the whole thing
Grows over time, right? So this is actually what what we are trying also to build
Yeah, very good. Very cool insight. Definitely look forward to what you are going to
Come out with obviously bullish on very orderly. You've been very well spoken
So we appreciate you come time sharing your information with our community
Um, yeah, a n a n w n what's going on?
Yeah, last last few things I wanted to get in cutting it to mention it last time I spoke
But uh, yeah, somebody earlier was saying like uh, like 40 50 in terms of lending and like what ltv's you get
But now with these points the points are incentivizing these lenders to bid it up
So you're getting like 70 80 percent ltv for these borrowers. So
For me that might be a shift now
I I know that like about a month ago
It was as low as that I think robin had mentioned there was like a hundred like very aggressive users and that's kind of tripled
Yeah, like this is something you see on like nft5 too like on the east side
Like that's what happens when the lenders start computing
So you kind of need some volatility to shake that behavior out
But with the points in the airdrop you might see some of adverse behavior
So that's one thing and then second only because I want to bring this topic up because I hope other people
Mention it and maybe I hear about some other platforms. I haven't heard of
Uh, the second thing i'm interested in in in order on the order side besides lending in liquidity
Is mev on bitcoin because on the east side of things back when it was proof of work
At least it was more feasible on proof of stake mev is like an entirely different ball game and you only have 12 seconds
On bitcoin the fact you have 10 minutes makes it very interesting in terms of visualizing the mev happening
And I had seen like some screenshots going around on twitter of examples of this with certain transactions
But I hadn't seen it for myself before
And um, I mentioned this to good things like days and days ago
But I finally did some digging in on my own
And I found out that it is on mempool.space is where you can see that visualization
You can see the rbf history only if that transaction has that type of behavior
So I spun up a node to finally be able to like decode the raw transactions
And then now i'm able to use those rpc commands to decode the raw transactions and see what's going on
So next I want to find out how to look at these
PSBTs and then actually see how you can manipulate addresses and things like that
And then third note on that is you actually don't even need a full node to do these rpc commands
You actually can just use something like quick node
So you can actually just use that and that they're faster at indexing anyways, so
Just you know for anybody who's doing that type of stuff if you're doing it
Please talk about this stuff more because I find it very interesting
We saw the first kind of instances like come to the forefront of like the oracle's mind with like the free mints
Um, and then i'm magic eating and then obviously people front running each other that i'm sure people will
Develop more robust products. Um, not necessarily for front running but for arbitrage opportunities
Whether there'll be exchanges or whatever the case may be so definitely look forward to that
We got our man stephen miller in the house who always gives us an art update and he had some alpha that he shared
Earlier today on an earlier space and I invited him to come up here and share it on everything ordinal. So welcome stephen
gm everybody, um, I was not expecting for this piece of news to drop today, but
Um, you know the market likes to surprise especially when it comes to um big art drops that have been cooking in the background
Um the artist known as des lucrece. Um, a lot of people are familiar with his monsters collection over on
That there is a new um, what i'm gonna kind of call like a pseudo teleburn that he's got planned for a new collection on ordinals
Um, it looks very very legit if you don't uh, if you recall or if you had followed it all over on ethereum
There was a collection that he did during the uh, the big open edition minting craze of 2023
Back in late january february. It was called proceed with caution and it was eight different colored. Um
Defy monsters as he called them
and these essentially have had like a couple of different burn events over the course of the last year, but he
A burn of like a new full set burn like within the last month or so
So it's been open. It's been rolling
And people have been burning their full sets and they've only added up like 299 of these passes so far
At least as of this morning had to go out and deal with some family stuff since so it may have gone up
um, but these passes essentially are going to be your ticket
immediately get one of these new
I think he's calling them digimons over on um
On ordinals, so i'll pin the info to the top that I have, but it looks really really promising. Was it digimon's or was it?
Bitmon's you had said I think it was bitmon's i'm just a little bit for us at the moment
It's it's one of our favorite terms followed by mon. That's what i've got
All right fair enough. And so what's so
Um des has an auction going on right now at southerby's. I know you've been tracking that. Um, what's the latest update? Where are we sitting on that?
So as of my last track on that, uh benediction from between worlds, which is part of um, the sotheby's current, um exhibition and auction
Um was sitting right around 65k, which is you know
No small price sure. Um, he's had I think there was another
Not open edition but a smaller edition drop that he launched kind of in tandem with it
So if you're looking for a way in right now, you know, there's definitely cheaper paths
But I think that for everybody else, uh, this is a really solid option right now
You can get these passes if you don't want to go and get the entire full set and burn it
The passes themselves are selling for around 0.75 eath over on aetherium
Very nice. Very nice. And while we have you here, we did mention the southerby's auction
That's something that we have chatted about for two or three days
Any other updates on nullish or anything that's caught your eye on the auctions? Um the cat perhaps
Uh, yeah, so that cat is insanely priced
Um, and by that, I mean just like mad respect to the team and the entire community for rallying behind that one and putting in a massive bid
Um, it hasn't changed from when we last spoke about it english. I think that you had said it was nearing 200. Is that right?
Um when I had caught it last this morning, it was 120 and on that show
I think there were some predictions that it should go to about 250 based on the fact that
Um, it just has that potential by nature and that we're so early in the auction
I I don't remember seeing it 200, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's
Not at that now or or will be in the next coming days
Yeah, the thing that should be said about the southerby's auctions. It's like yes
It's a huge moment of affirmation for all those artists that are you know, really spinning up in a meaningful way here on bitcoin
but what you don't necessarily get just like by
Like um following it for like the first time is the fact that these auctions typically heat up in the last minutes
So when you watch that see where it currently is like in the in the case of those two collections, right?
You have you know a bid at 120 for the cat you've got 65k down right now on um
On benediction from desla crest
The likelihood is is they're probably going to go
Um, so i'd be watching those very closely. It should be very telling for where the rest of the market's headed
But yeah, there's some other really great pieces over there that are underestimate right now
So if you're looking for a solid entry, there are a lot of other great opportunities. I would go check out on that auction
Very cool steven. Thank you so much for coming here daily and giving us our art recap
Um, definitely add a lot of value to the space and we do appreciate your time and your information
Um, I think we're going to call it here
Hope uh good things and polly is we we typically like to do it about an hour an hour and a half
We are at the hour and a half mark. Um polly man. I'm going to shoot it to you dude final thoughts
Um, I think we had a great especially one of you. Um, shout out to burst. Um, and thanks for coming up
Sharing with us about your new project. I'm
Owning a piece of the glitch and looking forward to the cool
Kind of interactive things or you kind of alluded to so really looking into uh, you know looking into that
It was great to have withers come by and share stuff about her her collection
Uh, you know, I want to give a shout out to everybody who came on the stage
You know shout out to everybody, you know spent the last hour half with us. And um, yeah, um, we'll be back up on monday
3 30 eastern, uh, you know
This was our first week as a squad when just shout out, you know good things and uh in u english, uh, it's been a pleasure
Um, you know, you know standing stage, um with you guys and king offers pretty much our you know
Our fourth amigo over here. So so yeah, so yeah, just uh, you know, just really excited
Everybody have a great weekend
And uh, yeah, I look forward to seeing I want to thank you guys just for doing this by the way
All three because it's it's been lit and there's I think there was like a missing
I think this was missing to be honest. It's it's very it's very dope
It's very based and it's very like transparent about what's happening in the space and I just I love it
You guys are killing it. So I'm glad you said that dude
Because that's good. We were hoping to fill in the gap, you know, just to have something daily somewhere where everybody can come
It's not quite a town hall, but at the same time it's not super technical
We provide we entertain and it's just kind of a cool place for all these ordinal mfers to get together
So, um, thank you for saying that king arth
That means a lot to us and thank you for coming up here and always chiming in and adding value good things
My man, I know that you might be in an uber. Can you chat right now final thoughts? Yes, sir. Yes final thoughts. Um, dude
Can you guys hear me? Okay
Yeah, you're good brother. Okay. Cool. Yeah. I mean it's been an incredible first week for the show
I mean this is it doesn't even feel like it's the first week
That's what's crazy because so much has happened each day. Like we've had amazing guests amazing friends
Um, you know and I think we really have the opportunity to grow this as a community, right?
Like like all of us are in this ecosystem pretty much every day
Some of us are in it like 24 hours a day
Even when we're sleeping, you know, like one of the one of the great qualities of polymath is he's learning while he's sleeping
we don't know exactly how it works, but he does it and um, you know, I think to a certain extent we're all doing that
And we all know like this is this is a massive opportunity in front of us, right?
Like we're we're at the beginning of the biggest bull market in crypto history
Um, there's a lot of money that's going to be made but there's also a lot of network
You know a lot of powerful networks that are going to be formed here
If you look back in history
You look at things like what happened in silicon valley in the 60s and 70s, right? If you were in that time and place
You basically had a unique opportunity
To make your mark on history not just to make money but also impact the future of the world
And I truly believe I know a lot of us do like we have that opportunity in front of us
Um, you know i'm traveling around right now i'm talking to just everybody I come into contact with you know
You have a conversation with and um, not a lot of people know about what's happening in this industry yet
Not a lot of people believe in it because they you know, the mainstream media portrays it in a certain way
And what I think that affords us is this incredible opportunity not only to again take advantage of the financial
Side of things but also become leaders and help usher in
Those people right because they are going to come eventually there is going to be
You know a wave of folks who come in during this bull run
And then the subsequent ones to follow in the years to come
And I think you know if you've been here
Even just a few months, but many of us have been here months and months and years and years
We have this incredible opportunity and and that's what we want to build here at everything ordinals more than anything
We want to build opportunity to learn to make money to build incredible products
And really help build the future, you know using blockchain technology and possibly ai because king arp
We just we're never going to know if he's an ai agent or if it's the actual team
But um, but yeah, thank you guys so much. We'll be back. Uh monday
We're going to do this every monday to thursday as patrick said
And um, I don't have any music to play us out
I don't know english if you're you're clean. I got it. I got a queued up already, dude. I got a queued up
I'm back at my desk. Um, my clean desk is clean. My floor is clean. I'm on the mic
I got the broadcaster life is good. Uh, we're back into the groove
I'm not even gonna try to follow up that speech that you did because you absolutely killed it mic drop
But I will say this. Thank you king arp. Thank you stephen miller. Thank you burs. Thank you. Everybody that came out today
Listen to us. We do do this show monday through thursday 3 30 p.m. Eastern. We appreciate you
We love you and with that we're out
See who's playing music. Yes, I don't think he knows you can't hear it. No
But for unknown reasons because we don't sell dope that you distribute we don't contribute to your clandestine activity
Thank you all, we'll see you next week.
You know about that Andre.